1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, loving the dream here on the Sunday before the 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: Big Game. This is End Zone Radio once again. We're 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: in the Fox Sports Radio studios. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 3: It is that. 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: Annual countdown to the Big Game, the Big Game. This 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: year it's gonna be the Seattle Seahawks going up against 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: the New England Patriots and BJ Let's just say this 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: at the top of the program here. You know, last week, 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,319 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, I told you I had 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: a vision. I was like, you know, because I've covered 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: so many Super Bowls over the years, when I get 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: there or cover the Super Bowl, suddenly it's like, yeah, 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: this was sort of destiny here, right, It was sort 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: of like destined like and so, you know, a couple 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 2: of weeks ago and trying to figure out what is 17 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: the what is the destiny super Bowl? Like, this makes 18 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: sense that these two teams end up in the Big Game, 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: and it just hits me, it's got to be the 20 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: Rams and the Patriots because for months now, we're all 21 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: we've been going back and forth, Who's the MVP? Is 22 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: it Drake May is a Maanthony Stafford? Back and forth, 23 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: as those are the two main guys in the MVP conversation. 24 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: But now that it's the Seahawks and the Patriots, I 25 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: get it. We're talking about two teams that did not 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 2: make the playoffs last year. Now, this has only happened 27 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: a handful of times ever, where both teams are coming 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: off seasons in which they did not make the playoffs. 29 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: The last time this happened, interesting enough, was the Super 30 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 2: Bowl between the Patriots and the Panthers, because after winning 31 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: his first Super Bowl, Tom Brady, the Patriots did not 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: make the playoffs the next year, and of course the 33 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: Panthers would rarely make the playoffs the Chiefs, right, So 34 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: this only happened four times. Ever, this is the fifth 35 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: time where both teams in the Super Bowl are coming 36 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: off seasons in which they did not make the playoffs. 37 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: So I guess that is the number one story angle. 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: And if you think about it, what we're talking about 39 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: now is parody, right. This is the idea of the 40 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: National Football If you're wondering why there were so many 41 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: coaching vacancies around the NFL, it's because of this matchup. 42 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: Because if you're looking preseason. 43 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: If you'd laid down a parlay of the Seahawks versus 44 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: the Patriots in the Super Bowl, the odds would be steep. 45 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: But these owners are like, wait a second, if the 46 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: Patriots can go from four wins to the super Bowl, 47 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: if the Sea Hawks can go from you know, picking 48 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: up you know we' and we're gonna get plenty into 49 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: the whole Sam Darnold situation. But if they could go 50 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: from not making the playoffs to get into the Super Bowl. 51 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 3: Why can't we? 52 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: And this is why we're seeing so many coaches walk 53 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: the plank because they're looking for that magic elixa. 54 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: So now that this all said and done, yeah, I 55 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 4: get it. 56 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: This is why these two teams are in this year's 57 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. 58 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 5: I'm not mad at it. I actually kind of love 59 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 5: it and like it because it intertwines it to what 60 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 5: I ranted about last week about the coaching hires in 61 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 5: the NFL over like the last eight or nine years, 62 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 5: and it's been system wonder kid from the McVeigh tree, 63 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 5: from the Shanahan tree, from these different Harball's creating quite 64 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 5: a tree for himself right now. Also, Jim, Jim's great, 65 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 5: quite a tree for himself right now. But when you 66 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 5: look at those two coaches that just got hired. We're 67 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 5: I talk about last week. They were culture guys. They 68 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 5: were culture guys. They're not the best X scheme or like, 69 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 5: there's nothing real confusing that Mike McDonald is doing with 70 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 5: his defense. They're big, they're fast, they're aggressive, they're they're 71 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 5: fundamentally sound, they're accountable, and they're disciplined and their physical 72 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 5: as hell. They play to the echo of the whistle. 73 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 5: They don't play to the whistle. They play to the 74 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 5: echo of the whistle. That's not a lot of scheming guys. 75 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 5: They imitate, they intimidate you, they beat you up, they 76 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 5: push you around like football's supposed to be played. It's 77 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 5: supposed to be played like that. And now you see 78 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 5: two coaches. What is Mike Rabel. Mike Rabel is a coach, 79 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 5: a guy, big time head butt of the guy busted 80 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 5: his lip on the sideline. I thought it was overplayed, 81 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 5: but I get it. It was overplayed, but I get it. 82 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 5: It was that old school tough guy, the head button, 83 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 5: somebody without a helmet on, like an old eighties football 84 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 5: college football movie, like the program, the kid that was 85 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 5: all jacked up on the Roy's head button, the cars 86 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 5: and the windows with his forehead outside like it gave 87 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 5: you that feel. And that's where old school guys like 88 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 5: myself and you a lot of other people in this 89 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 5: business look at the sport of football. That's why you 90 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 5: saw these coaching hires. And if you kind of look 91 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 5: at some of these coaching hires, they need a culture change. 92 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: They don't need an nexes and o's guy. 93 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 5: You can bring guys in for that, but the guy 94 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 5: at the top needs to be the CEO. He needs 95 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 5: to change the culture. So that's why I think you 96 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 5: see that. That's why I agree exactly what you're saying. 97 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 5: If you're one of these franchises. Look, I looked at odds, 98 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 5: but I think it was like sixty to one for 99 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 5: one of these teams are different. It was it's crazy, 100 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 5: like they no one thought these two teams were going 101 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,559 Speaker 5: to the s But now you have to say, okay, 102 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 5: how how how in the hell did they get there? 103 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 5: And it starts I agree with you with coaching, but 104 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 5: they both brought in both those franchises brought in culture 105 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 5: style coaches. They weren't worried about the x's and o's 106 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 5: and all of that. We'll get coordinated. That's what coordinators 107 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 5: for get the coordinators in for that. That's what both 108 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 5: these teams have done. So now you got to look 109 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 5: at these ten jobs are available, not have been filled. 110 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 5: There's still one. Did the Cardinals get fields? There's still 111 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 5: two available. Are still two Cardinals in the raider. 112 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: I think one of them is pretty clear on who 113 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 2: is going to be a coach somewhere coming up. 114 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 3: We'll get into that on the moment. 115 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, and also in a year where Indiana went 116 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: the national championship in college football coach, I mean, it's culture, 117 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: the whole thing, Indiana, New England, Patriots, Seattle Seahawks. 118 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: It's one of those years. 119 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 2: And so it's it's the outsiders finally inside playing for 120 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: the top prize. 121 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 4: So it's it makes sense, Yes. 122 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 3: It makes sense. 123 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 5: Thinking about Indiana bo once again, what how did they 124 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 5: beat you? They beat you up, man, They're physical. They 125 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 5: take these pretty teams, right, they take these pretty teams. 126 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 5: Ohio State, a team that's got eleven nflers on both 127 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 5: offensive defense combined. They full they're gonna have at least 128 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 5: four guys taken in the first round and scored fourteen 129 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 5: points because they got beat up Hurricane same thing. Fact 130 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 5: they got it they got two defensive linemen, two in 131 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 5: that front seven that's going in the first two rounds 132 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 5: of INFA. But they got beat up and he's a coacher. 133 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 3: They scored. Does he smile? 134 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 5: Does he celebrate? Does It's like one guy jumped on 135 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 5: his back and he got upset with it. He's like, dude, 136 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 5: it's not it's not over yet. Like and that's a 137 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 5: culture and like you I love that. I love that 138 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 5: you threw that in there in the end that when 139 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 5: you look around for the. 140 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 3: Ball man wins the championship and they have a Super 141 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 3: Bowl between the New England Patriots, right and the Seattle Seahawks. 142 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 5: And he has also got the number one draft pick too, 143 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 5: So think about it like that. 144 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: They don't. 145 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 5: They didn't only win with coature. They got the guy 146 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 5: that we're all looking at saying, can he can? Can 147 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 5: he be generational number one overall pick this year? 148 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 149 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: All right, So we're gonna we're gonna break it down 150 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: somewhat today. We're not going to exhaust everything because we 151 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 2: do have a big announcement about next Sunday, because we 152 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: will have an expanded show five hours as we are 153 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: literally the lead up shown to the actual game, The 154 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: Big Game coming out next Sunday, So and that day, 155 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: obviously we're gonna break down prop bets galore that day. 156 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: Also next week, I really want to break it down 157 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: because we're gonna really get you set for the big game, 158 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: you know, and a lot of it not only has 159 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: to do with prop bets and everything else, all the 160 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: fun stuff food. I want to break it down next week. 161 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: I want to save it for next week. You know, 162 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: what is the perfect breakdown as you sit down for 163 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: your parties. You know, whether you got a big group 164 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: of people, small group sitting by yourself and your man 165 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: cave watching the game, whatever it is, what is the 166 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: perfect compliment in terms of food, drink getting ready for 167 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: the big Game. So think about that. We'll have that 168 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: coming up next week as we get ready for the 169 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: big Game. 170 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: All right. 171 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 4: One of the things that obviously was a huge story this. 172 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: Week, and we're going to get into this in a moment, 173 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: is what happened with the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 174 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: Now I'm coming up in the next segment, I'm gonna 175 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: break it down for a lot of people because I 176 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: do have some insight in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, 177 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: and one of my dearest friends has I've known this 178 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: guy for thirty years. He's a stat geek guy like me, 179 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: Like he's one of those type of guys over the top. 180 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 2: And he is actually a member of the committee that 181 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: is the screening committee to decide the senior finalist for 182 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. So this year it 183 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: was Ken Anderson, the former Bengals quarterback, Roger Craig, course 184 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: great forty nine er running back in lc Greenwood, the 185 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: legendary defensive end of the Steel Curtain with the Steelers. 186 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: So he has insight. 187 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: Now I can share some of what he tells it, 188 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: but it will help explain what happened with the Bill 189 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: Belichick situation. And it's not what people are saying. So 190 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: that's that the problem is is people just don't get it. 191 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: They just see, Okay, Belichick didn't make the Hall of Fame. 192 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: I was actually on I was on several shows this 193 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: week because people say, well, when it comes to knowing 194 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: Halls of Fame, Hartman is like the guy, right. 195 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: I mean, you're a Hall of Famer, So but yeah, 196 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 3: I do. 197 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: Follow Halls of Fame very very closely here and so 198 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: somebody asked me, they said, well, can they have a revote. 199 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, okay. 200 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: See there is no revote, but there it isn't just 201 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: about Belichick not making the Hall And we'll explain on 202 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: the other side. Now, here's a bigger question as we 203 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 2: get ready for our Sunday here. Have you ever wiped 204 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: with a piece of dry toilet paper and wondered? Is 205 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 2: this as good as it gets? 206 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 4: I mean, so I think we've all been there, right, Like, 207 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 4: I mean, how many times do I have to wipe? 208 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 3: All right? 209 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 4: This is ridiculous, I'm wasting paper. 210 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: Well, guess what it's not switched to life changing wet 211 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: extra large flushable dude wipes because weder just cleans better. 212 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: Available to Amazon and at major retailers nationwide. Dude wipes 213 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: best clean pants down. All right, coming up on the 214 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: other side, we're gonna break it down. 215 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 3: What happened. 216 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: What happened that prevented Bill Belichick from being a first 217 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 2: ballot Hall of Famer. We will break it down, explain 218 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: the true story. 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So let me try to 244 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 2: explain to you what has happened, and how the Hall 245 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 2: of Fame has screwed this thing up royally. So for 246 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: years and years and years, the Pro Football Hall of 247 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: Fame Committee, and they've expanded it one time is like 248 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: thirty five to forty outs up to fifty. Right, But 249 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 2: they would all meet the Saturday before the Super Bowl. 250 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: So that morning, Saturday morning, the day before the Super Bowl, 251 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: all the members of the voting committee would be in 252 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: the same room and then they would make presentations about 253 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: each of the candidates. 254 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 3: I mean some were just obvious, you know. 255 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 2: He'd throw out of names like all right, let's move 256 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: on because he's an obvious first ballot guy. Whatever, and 257 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: then they have an open discussion. They would vote, so 258 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: there would be fifteen finalists. They'd vote to cut the 259 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 2: list from fifteen to ten. Now they're going to have 260 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: another discussion and then have another vote to cut it 261 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: from ten to five. 262 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: Once they got. 263 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: To the final five, each one of those were voted 264 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 2: on individually. 265 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 4: If they got eighty percent of the vote, they were in. 266 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: And for more than a decade, every single guy that 267 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: would make the cut to the final five I would 268 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: get elected to the Hall of Fame. Every single one 269 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: and then they would have a senior candidate and they 270 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: would have a coach or contributor candidate. 271 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 3: And that's the way it worked for years. 272 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 2: Okay, what happened was COVID prevented them from all being 273 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: in the same room, so they did sort of a 274 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: virtual you know, meeting, and they sort of liked that 275 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: instead of all having to sit in the same room. 276 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: But when things got really crazy was when Dion Sanders 277 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: made the comment a couple of years ago that they're 278 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: just putting everybody in. They're completely watering down the Hall 279 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: of Fame. You're putting in in guys that honestly do 280 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 2: not belong. Maybe there should be a different level of 281 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame for you know, next level hall 282 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: of famers and this, that. 283 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: And everything else. 284 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 5: Did you agree with him to some degree? You know, 285 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 5: some guys you really by Harford. 286 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 4: I am one of those lessons more. 287 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: It should be there. It should be I think it 288 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 3: needs to be. 289 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, the NFL had its one hundred year 290 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: anniversary team that was sort of elite, right, best of 291 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: the best type of thing, so I and this is 292 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: all halls of Fame. I just feel like there's too 293 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: many people you know. I mean, I mean, if you 294 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: got you know, Carlos Beltron versus Willie Mays. I mean, 295 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it's you know, one guy's obviously you know 296 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: all timer. But I get it because you need to 297 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: have a ceremony and need people, you know. 298 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 4: I get why they do what they do. 299 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: But because of some of the comments that Dion Sanders made, 300 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: they decide, well, maybe we'll revise the voting. So this 301 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: is what you have to understand and will help explain 302 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: why Bill. 303 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: Belichick did not make the Hall of Fame this year. 304 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: So starting last year, they completely changed the procedure. So 305 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: let's talk with the contemporaries. Right, you have fifteen finalists, 306 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: So now they cut the list from fifteen to ten, 307 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: and then ten to seven. Then each member can only 308 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: vote for five of the seven. Do the math if 309 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: you still have to get eighty percent of the vote. 310 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: What they said was all right, top three vote getters 311 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: regardless of eighty percent or not get in. And then 312 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: if there are four or five guys with eighty percent, 313 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: you could have a maximum of five. Well, last year 314 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: only three made it. I'm gonna guess this. I'm gonna 315 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: guess that at least two of those three guys you had, 316 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: Eric Allen, Jared Allen, and Antonio Gates. At least two 317 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: of those guys did not even get eighty percent, but 318 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: they were the top three vote getters, so they get in. 319 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: Same thing happened in the other group, where they lumped 320 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: together the coach finalists, the contributor finalists, and the three 321 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: player seniors. One is guaranteed the top vote getter is guaranteed. 322 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 5: Out of those three categories. Out of those three categories, one, 323 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 5: tributor and. 324 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: Seniors, they're all lumped into one CATEGORYA, which is fair. 325 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: I like that, and you can vote for three of 326 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,239 Speaker 3: the five, but you do. Okay, let's let's again. 327 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: Do the math on this thing, all right? 328 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: So Lash only one made it, Sterling Sharp, Mike Homer, 329 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: Gonn didn't make it. 330 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 4: I mean, it was like, what what happened here? How 331 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 4: did Homer or not? Well, when you split the vote, 332 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: think about it. 333 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: If and we don't even know that Sterling Sharp got 334 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: eighty percent of the vote, All we know is he 335 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: had the most votes. So when you split the vote, 336 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: the chances of more than one guy getting eighty percent 337 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: of the vote is near impossible. My guess is when 338 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: they do reveal this year's Hall of Fame class, it's 339 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: going to be exactly like last year's Hall of Fame class. 340 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: The Contemporary category. 341 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: Will have the minimum of three and the Coach Contributor 342 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: Senior category will have one. Somebody who devised this system 343 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: didn't do the math. So my guess on the Belichick situation, 344 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: and there's a lot of layers to this, but this 345 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: just gets down to the vote, is that you're saying, well, 346 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: first of all, fifty guys are voting, and it's him, 347 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 2: Bob Kraft, Ken Anderson, Elsie Greenwood, and Roger Craig, and 348 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: you vote for three. Wouldn't he be on every one 349 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: of them? Wouldn't all fifty people say yes, he's one 350 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: of the top three. No, because of what happened last year, 351 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 2: there are members of that committee. I guarantee you who thought, 352 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 2: all right, I really want to give some love to 353 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 2: one of the players, or I want to give some 354 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 2: love to Bob Kraft. Other people are all voting for Belichick. 355 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: We're not worried about Belichick. Hi, I'm sure he'll have 356 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: enough votes and enough people did that where he was 357 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: not the top vote getter. Now is Bob Kraft gonna 358 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: get in. We'll find out later this week. But here's 359 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: one other thing I want to say, and obviously I 360 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: want you're taking all this and now I got a 361 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: follow up. 362 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 3: Nobody that voted. 363 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: No one on that committee has any clue of how 364 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 2: many people voted for who. They don't know the final vote. 365 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: I'll explain later how it is that the Belichick story 366 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: leaked out or Eli Manning leaked out. But understand this, 367 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 2: the members of that committee have no clue how many 368 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: votes anybody got. Because it's a seeker ballot. They turn 369 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: in the ballots and they are not told the results. Ever, 370 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: they can talk amongst themselves, but an actual official tally 371 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: is not revealed to any of them. So the idea 372 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: that they were in cohoots with each other or you know, 373 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 2: let's not vote him, but that is wrong. 374 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 3: That is absolutely wrong. 375 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: They all voted individually, they cast their ballots, and he 376 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 2: didn't get enough votes. So that is that is the 377 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 2: technical aspect of what accounts for Belichick not being a 378 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: first ballot Hall of Famer. 379 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 5: Sounds good, sounds good, sounds sounds real good, but you know, 380 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 5: I smell shenanigans. I do I smell shenaniganus. Now, I'm 381 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 5: not as upset as everybody else is. I understand Tom 382 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 5: Brady coming out and speaking with him, McGinnis coming out speaking, Uh, 383 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 5: Rob Grokownski coming out. 384 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 3: That's what they're supposed to do. They're gonna do that. 385 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 5: Any even Bob Kraft, well he should. This man is 386 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 5: the reason why, along with Tom Brady. And it's not 387 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 5: just them. Those names I just name guys, those those 388 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 5: you guys forget these Patriot teams. There were a lot 389 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 5: more than just Belichick and Brady. You look at McGinnis 390 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 5: and rabel and and Teddy Brusky like they guys they 391 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 5: had stars. Man, these guys were studs. 392 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 3: Man. It was just a coach and a quarterback. So 393 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: they're doing the right thing. 394 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 5: My only beef, I want to I want to go 395 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 5: back to your comments just now what you said, Well, 396 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 5: you gotta have a ceremony. 397 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: No you don't, No, you don't. It's time to change, Steve. 398 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 5: What we have just normalized in sports as it's supposed 399 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 5: to happen. I would be one hundred Okay if if 400 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 5: we had a year where nobody got in. You don't 401 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 5: have to have it you're just so you can still 402 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 5: have the people show up super. 403 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 3: Bowl weekend, all the guys wear their gold jackets and 404 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 3: have the dinner and stuff. Hey, do you think a 405 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 3: guy like coach Prime? 406 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 5: He would probably say, yeah, I like that because y'all 407 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 5: putting too much in and now it makes you have 408 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 5: to be that much better. 409 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 3: You have to want it that much more if we 410 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 3: look around. 411 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 5: I'm so tired of just throwing guys in the Hall 412 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 5: while they're still playing. Somebody told me last week Josh 413 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 5: Allen's a Hall of Famer. 414 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 3: Why why you can't tell me? Like? Why? 415 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 7: How? 416 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,239 Speaker 3: How is the quarterback? But what it's over? 417 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 5: I think over thirty quarterbacks in the Hall, Steve thinks 418 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 5: is too many quarterbacks? Is way too many quarterbacks? Over 419 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 5: thirty quarterbacks in the Hall. But like, it's not the 420 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 5: Hall of really good. It's not the Hall of one 421 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 5: good season. It's not the Hall of four good seasons 422 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 5: out of ten. But you might have won two Super 423 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 5: Bowls in those two things. That's not what it is. 424 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 5: We've warned the Hall of Fames down period. I'm done 425 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 5: with the baseball I don't even talk about that one 426 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 5: no more. The NBA, they don't call it the NBA 427 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 5: Hall of fam I always thought basketball should have had 428 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 5: two hall of fames. 429 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 4: You can have the NBA. 430 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: There's no NBA Hall of Fame. 431 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 5: It's just the Nate Smith Basketball Hall of Fame, which 432 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 5: is okay because you want to get the ladies in there, 433 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 5: you want to get contributors, you want to get some 434 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 5: international player, and that's fine, but the NBA to have 435 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 5: its own separate Hall of Fame. And when I see 436 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 5: guys like mcgrady's a Hall of Famer, like mcgreat, like 437 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 5: Tracy mcgrady's a Hall of how wow, because he can 438 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 5: go get buckets? 439 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 3: What did what did he ever do? What team did 440 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: he ever really lead? And go do nothing? 441 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 8: Not one? 442 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 3: But he can get a bucket, he can score Walter 443 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: Davis man, I mean, these are these are guys like 444 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 3: I forgot Paul Piers really embarrassing moment at a Laker game. Well, 445 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 3: I'm a Chris bosh Right first ballow right, how not 446 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 3: his first ballot? 447 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 5: How is he a Hall of Famer If he's a 448 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 5: Hall of Famer in pel Gasol's a Hall of Famer. 449 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 5: If Pala Gasol's a Hall of famer. Rashid Wallace is 450 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 5: a Hall of Famer. Now I can go all day 451 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 5: with guys that were nineteen and nine. 452 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 453 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 5: Reggie Miller's in a Hall of Fame. If I'm not mistaken. 454 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 5: Did Reggie even has over twenty points? That's something always happened. 455 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean over of course. I mean they 456 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: put Michael Cooper in. I love Coop, but he was 457 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: never an All Star, never an All NBA player, always 458 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: an All defensive guy. 459 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 5: You want to give him a lake, you want to 460 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 5: retire his number, you want to do the whole Laker thing. 461 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 3: That's fine. 462 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 2: I have to say that about Coop because one of 463 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: my all time Laker players. 464 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 3: But again, hall of Fame. I mean they're trying to 465 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 3: make an argument for Robert Lori seven NBA time. I 466 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 3: just thought a podcast he was on. I just saw 467 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 3: a podcast. 468 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 2: He has seven points and five rebounds a game for 469 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 2: his career, right, I mean, come on, I mean, I 470 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: mean Bill Russell, Will Chamberlain chem olaj On shotb Yeah, 471 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: those are. 472 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 3: Hall of Famer the best of the best of the best. 473 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 4: So I'm with you, less is more, all right. On 474 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 4: the other side, I do. 475 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: Want Fish as a Hall of Famer. 476 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 2: Now, well, come on, uh, he should have his number 477 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 2: retired by the Lakers though. And I say that because 478 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: there's only five LA Lakers who've been on five championship teams. 479 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 2: You got Magic, Kareem Coop, I'm with you, You've got Kobe, 480 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 2: and he got d Fish Fish. 481 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 3: Those are the five. That's it. 482 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 4: I remember when Kobe won that fifth one. 483 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 2: He was walking by me and he goes, what do 484 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 2: you think now, Hartman, I go, I guess you and 485 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: d Fish have the same number of rings. 486 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 3: He loved that. He laughed his ass. You. I tell you, man, 487 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 3: if I was an athlete me, you might have fallen. 488 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 2: They took it from me because you have to have 489 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: all Right, let's find out what's twenty right now? 490 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 4: Her name on a Hall of Fame lest it was 491 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 4: just like next, I mean, that's all time. 492 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 8: Oh stop. 493 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: How many different roles do you play here at Fox 494 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 3: Sports Radio? It's insane. Thirty thirty two about that? 495 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 8: I think I think we Jay's right about that. 496 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 5: Twenty seven last week and now it's up to thirty two. Said, 497 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 5: I get the emails, I get the big I love 498 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 5: you know what. I'm blinding blind, but I'm like, this 499 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 5: is what they're doing. 500 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 3: To put a cot and you know what I love 501 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: there is one breeze. Yes, uh. 502 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 2: I do TV late night here in LA and so 503 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 2: I'll listen to Fox Sports Radio. You know, it's like 504 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: midnight and there's Manzi doing enough day, right, so I 505 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: hear her voice. You know, it's like midnight and Manzi's 506 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 2: running down the scores and everything else. 507 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, unbelievable. 508 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, good, you know, trying to try to stay keep 509 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 9: the people awake in the middle of the night, you know. 510 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 8: So I hope I sound up and preppy for you guys. Yeah, 511 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 8: I'm glad. 512 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 9: To be back because I'm sure you all missed me 513 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 9: last weekend. 514 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 8: But I'm back. Here we go. Let's start in the NBA. 515 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 9: The trade deadline not far fellas February fifth to be exact. 516 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 9: Nothing yet on Jannisantakoopa, but this morning the Hawks did 517 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 9: trade guard Veat Crachy to the Blazers for du Ap 518 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 9: Breath and two future second round picks. In case you 519 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 9: missed it, late last night, the Cavaliers traded DeAndrea Hunter 520 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 9: to the Kings for Dennis Schreuder and Kean Ellis. 521 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 8: It's a three team deal. 522 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 9: The Bulls are acquiring Dario Sarich from the Kings and 523 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,239 Speaker 9: two future second round picks. In tennis, Carlos alcoraz Haz 524 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 9: completed the Grand Slam at just twenty two years old, 525 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 9: defeating crazy defeating Novak Djokovic at the Australian Open in 526 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 9: four sets. The semi final against Alexander Zverev that went 527 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 9: till one thirty in the morning. 528 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 5: That was I watched, watched the entire max five and 529 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 5: a half hours. 530 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 3: And I thought he was losing that match. 531 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 8: When he started cramping on the fifth set. He was 532 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 8: no Verev. Zverev at the house, Oh my god, vera Verrev. 533 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 8: At the end was like my legs. 534 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 9: Were done, Like I couldn't I could not move and 535 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 9: I was trying to beat him with my serve and 536 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 9: he it just five and a half hours. 537 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 3: Was between really really good and. 538 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 8: And really really good. No, Carls is greatness. 539 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 9: It's like watching him, you're just like, I don't know 540 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 9: if you're ever gonna lose. 541 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: All right, Well, think about this for a second. It's 542 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: his sport now. So he is twenty two years old. 543 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 5: He he's already won seven Grand slams. 544 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 3: Is he gonna break Jokovic is right? Twenty four? Is 545 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: he gonna go done? 546 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: So twenty Nadal at twenty two, Djokovic twenty four had 547 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: twenty three done. 548 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 3: Is this guy gonna go twenty five? 549 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 8: Really? No run away? 550 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 3: Actually, but he has Sinner. 551 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 4: Cinner is great, he is, but. 552 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 5: At twenty two years old. Just tell me who's gonna 553 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 5: consistently stop him? 554 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: Well, Sinner thousand years without injury, who's gonna stop this way? 555 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 4: Cinner beat him at Wimbledon last year. 556 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 3: That was huge for Sin. 557 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 4: It was it was at Wimbledon. 558 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 8: So the tennis is in good hands. 559 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 3: Like you know, these two guys are phenomenal. It'll go 560 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 3: back and forth. 561 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 5: We watched federal, Djokovic and the Doll battle each other 562 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 5: and they all ended up with over twenty all three 563 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 5: guys crazy. Every Body took their turn and got their run. 564 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: And let's not forget you still had any Maria mix. Yeah, 565 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 2: you know, and he won three. That's amazing. Those guys 566 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: won multiples in the mixt of all that. But I 567 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: think this center, this Alcoraz Center thing, that's but it's. 568 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:17,479 Speaker 3: Just them too. 569 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 8: It's just it really interesting and maybe somebody here, but 570 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 8: that's very much. Ver can get in there, but he might. 571 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 3: He'll still He'll still a French. He'll still he will, 572 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 3: He'll still a French. 573 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 5: But the Australian, the US, Wimbledon, the Wimbledon, it belongs 574 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 5: to Center and Alcarez for the next five years. Somebody 575 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 5: might slip in there and grab one. Yeah, but they're gaming, 576 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 5: they're not hurt. You've got no shots. 577 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 9: Stop. 578 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 8: It's crazy. Last thing I'll tell you here, guys in 579 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 8: the NFL. 580 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 9: ESPN reported a few hours ago that Seahawks offensive coordinator 581 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 9: Clint Qbac met with both the Raiders and the Cardinals 582 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 9: for their head coach vacancy. 583 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 8: The NFL network just tweeted. 584 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 9: Not long ago, the Raiders are zeroing in on Qbac 585 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 9: as our next head coach. 586 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 5: No question about it, Tom Brady, Well, I mean think 587 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 5: about it if you if you're Clint Kubiak, by the way, 588 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 5: thank you very much, Monci. 589 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 9: Yes, oh it's now. It's after meeting breaking news ESPN. 590 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 9: After meetings Saturday with Vegas. After meeting Saturday with Las Vegas, 591 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 9: Seattle offensive coordinator Clint Kubac intends to try to work 592 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 9: out a deal to become the next head coach of 593 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 9: the Raiders right now. 594 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 2: Literally all right, uh, we'll follow up on that right now, 595 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Moncie. 596 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 3: Once again, we're in the Fox Sports radio studios. 597 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: So Clint Kubiak, by the way, his offensive game plan 598 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: in that NFC Championship game was sure genius. I mean 599 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: he took a guy who had struggled so mightily. Remember 600 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: we were mocking the idea of you know, half over 601 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: under on a half interception for a guy that had 602 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: thrown six interceptions in two games against the Rams this year. 603 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 3: But Clint Kubiak's game plan first. 604 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 2: Of all, made Darna look like a Hall of Fame 605 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: quarterback in that NFC Championship That was one of the 606 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: best games ever for a quarterback in a conference championship game. 607 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: But if you're Clint Kubiak can have a choice between 608 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 2: the Raiders and the Cardinals, I'm sorry, I'm gonna take 609 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: my chances with Ndoza and I get to start with 610 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: a young quarterback who's super smart. You know, we'll figure 611 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: out what kind of limitations he may have physically with 612 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: everything else. But give me a kid that will be 613 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: in the classroom with me. That's going to, you know, 614 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: commit himself to being the best he can be. Social life, 615 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: no social life. He's you know, completely focused on this. 616 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: Sign me up. That's that's who I want to work. 617 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: And they have pieces. They have a great young tight end, 618 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: they have a great run, young running backball right, and 619 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: expectations are low, so it's it's a no lose. 620 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, Clint Kubiak will be the game plan though. 621 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 5: And you know me, my offensive mine, my offensive coordinator 622 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 5: is the way he was moving Jackson Smith and jabs. 623 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 5: That is See, that's where that's where I tell people, Well, 624 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 5: stop telling me coaching don't matter. 625 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: Stop that. 626 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 5: You sound stupid, you do, you sound foolish as hell 627 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 5: when you try to tell somebody that coaching doesn't matter 628 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 5: in sports, because what that does is they can't bump him, 629 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 5: they can't touch him. He's six yards away from that 630 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 5: guy that has to cover him. 631 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 4: Now, the people screaming through the whole game, how is he? 632 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: How is the best receiver in the league, one of 633 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: the top two, seemingly wide open? 634 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 3: Is anyone gonna cover him? 635 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 5: But what he did was he handed the Rams coaching 636 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 5: staff their natural ass because if he's in the backfield, 637 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 5: stop using their linebacker to cover him. You're allowed to say, Okay, 638 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 5: get a linebacker off the field, put our fourth corner 639 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 5: on the field, our one corner. 640 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 3: When he's in the backfield, you still. 641 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 5: Go line up over him and cover him when he 642 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 5: comes out of the backfield. He's not on a slow 643 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 5: safety and he's not on the bulky linebacker running a 644 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 5: five to six yard out and leaving that guy in 645 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 5: that dost embarrassing him. 646 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 3: I was, so I'm sitting on the sofa, like, you 647 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 3: know what, that's a real good scheme. Let's see what 648 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: the Rams do. 649 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 4: Wow linebacker, Wow, linebacker, Wow, linebacker. 650 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 5: Safety, you're not gonna take your corner and put your 651 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 5: corner on him. I know he's in the backfield, but 652 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 5: you can still put your corner behind the defensive lineer, 653 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 5: right next to the linebacker, and when he comes out 654 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 5: of the backfield, have your corner right on him. I 655 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 5: thought it was brilliant, but you mentioned to play calling. 656 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 5: But that was the one thing that they pointed out 657 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 5: that I loved seeing, and that's great coaching. But then 658 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 5: the Rams coaching team coaching staff did not adjust to 659 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 5: it all game now, and that's how he. 660 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 3: Lost no adjustments at all. And it's unfortunate because if 661 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: you look at Stafford's numbers, Matthew Stafford, Matthew Stafford became 662 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: the first quarterback ever in a playoff game, any playoff game, 663 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 3: to throw it for at least three hundred and fifty yards, 664 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 3: three touchdowns, no turnovers and lose the game. He was cooking. 665 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: I tell him he's been. 666 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: He's been in the history of the NFL playoffs, any 667 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: playoff game it ever had at least three hundred and 668 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: fifty yards passing, three touchdowns, no turnovers and lose the game. 669 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 5: The kid that dropped the punt really fast, Yeah, he 670 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 5: shouldn't even have been out there. If you guys remember 671 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 5: he dropped his first punt. 672 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 3: He did. He just recovered it at that point. 673 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 5: But I'm literally sitting on the sofa, Steve, I swear 674 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 5: I go pulling out the game. This game's too big, 675 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 5: This game's too big. They let no any mistakes today 676 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 5: you're off the. 677 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 3: Field, but it was. You tell it that. 678 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 4: That's how the Rams woud ultimately lose the game of 679 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 4: the special team. 680 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 3: Their special teams have been better well, But you. 681 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: Know it's interesting you look at the stats of that game. 682 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: Everything's easy obviously the one turnover, but there was one 683 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: stat that was very much in Seattle's favor third down conversions. 684 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: Seattle was seven to thirteen. The Rams were won for 685 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 2: eight and in a close game, that is the difference. 686 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 5: And still had a chance to win. But that that 687 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 5: drop punp man, it gives them. It's only eight, Steve, 688 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 5: I know, and you just stopped him. 689 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 3: That was the key. 690 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 4: You stopped him to start the half right boom. 691 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, you give them seven and that's that's that's and one. 692 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: Play and they were in the end zone. So you know, 693 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: you're just frazzled and you take advantage of that. 694 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 5: All right. 695 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: Coming out on the other side. I want to conclude 696 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 2: this whole Belichick thing with the leaking of the store 697 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: interesting because that none of this should be public knowledge, 698 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: none of it. 699 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 4: So how did it happen that it leaked? 700 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: Not only will I explain how it leaked, I have 701 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: my theory on who's behind the leak. 702 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 4: This is end Zone Radio. 703 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 704 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 2: Harvin Husky end Zone or Radio or in the Fox 705 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios or remainder again. Next Sunday, the Big game. 706 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: We will do five hours. We will literally lead you 707 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: up to the beginning of that big game between the 708 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: Seahawks and the Patriots. We'll be listening next Sunday here 709 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. All Right, So I've been sort 710 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: of trying to lend some insight into what happened with 711 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 2: the Belichick not making the Hall of Fame of the 712 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: first ballot. So, okay, we went through all the voting stuff. 713 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 2: Now I'm explaining how did this become public knowledge? 714 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 3: That's what I'm interested. Okay, So here's what happened. Now. 715 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,479 Speaker 2: As I mentioned years ago, there was no way anything 716 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: could leak out because they would literally vote and announce 717 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 2: the selections all on the same day. But now they 718 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: actually vote three weeks in advance. 719 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 5: Quick question, why why isn't it allowed? Is there some 720 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 5: type of stature or date that they're supposed to release it, 721 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 5: because I'm assuming you're saying. 722 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 3: They are releasing it. 723 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 2: They supposedly were release it with the NFL Honor Show, 724 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 2: which is later this week, when they announced all the 725 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 2: award winners, and then they announced that was the day. Okay, 726 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 2: So again, nobody that votes has any clue of the vote. 727 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 2: They don't have they don't reveal the vote to any 728 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 2: members of the actual voting committee. But what they did 729 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 2: was and this is really and I heard Peter King 730 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 2: talking about this the other day because Peter was a 731 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 2: member of the committee for many years. So because now 732 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 2: you've seen the last Cup, you remember they used to 733 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 2: have the big guy Baker knock on the door at 734 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: the you know, I used to love that, right, yeah, people, 735 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: so he resigned. He resigned, but they wanted to sort 736 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 2: of keep this going. So the last couple of years 737 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 2: you've noticed they actually have on film, like a Hall 738 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 2: of Famer will go to the. 739 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 4: House of this person, knock on the door. 740 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: Well, this is all taped two weeks in advance, so 741 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 2: now it's out there for three full weeks. We know 742 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 2: who actually is getting in because they have to set 743 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 2: up these photo shoots of everybody else. 744 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 4: But how about those that don't make it. So it 745 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 4: used to be. 746 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 2: Is that if you were a finalist, you would fly 747 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl city, sit in your hotel room 748 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 2: and hope someone knocks on your door. If they didn't 749 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 2: knock on your door, well you just wasted a trip. 750 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: And for some guys, it's got to be a pain 751 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 2: So what the NFL decided, the Hall of Fame decided 752 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: to do is, if you're not going to be there, 753 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 2: we will tell. 754 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 4: You in advance that you didn't get in. So you 755 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:50,919 Speaker 4: didn't get in. 756 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 3: But but. 757 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 2: In order to do that, you have to sign a 758 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 2: waiver of confidentiality, one of those non disclosures. So if 759 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 2: Belichick got contacted that he didn't make the Hall of 760 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 2: Fame and he has a non disclosure, how did that 761 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 2: story get out? 762 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 3: I have a guess. 763 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 2: I can't prove this, but I have a guess because 764 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 2: there's someone very close to him that seems to be 765 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 2: very concerned. 766 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,720 Speaker 3: About his pr work. 767 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 4: I'm going to guess that this certain someone she. 768 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 3: When he got the phone call, said that don't do it. 769 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 2: That she don't upset that her man did not make 770 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. 771 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 3: She doesn't know about any non disclosure. She didn't know 772 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 3: any of this. 773 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: She was expecting that come to summer she was going 774 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 2: to get the spotlight of him being in the Hall 775 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: of Fame. Big introduction for there is my love of 776 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 2: my life. And you're telling me that's not going to happen. 777 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 3: That is BS. 778 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 2: I can't prove it, but I'm thinking like, who would 779 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,959 Speaker 2: we get an item. I don't think that Belichick would 780 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 2: call people like, hey, guess what I did. I don't 781 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 2: think he would. But somebody, they said in his camp did. Well, 782 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: there's really only one person in his camp that would 783 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 2: leak it out that her man did not make the 784 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. And the next thing, you know, all 785 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 2: hell breaks suits. It burns like wildfire. He's getting calls 786 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 2: and then he has to react to it and everything else. 787 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 2: So that is my theory on how the Belichick story leaked. 788 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 3: I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at it. 789 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 3: It makes it. 790 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,240 Speaker 4: Makes total sense, that's not Does it not make. 791 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 5: Total especially in today's world where you know, hey, look 792 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 5: at me and got all these celebrity people and people 793 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 5: dating and all this. So we see the old Cardi 794 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 5: b and Stefan Diggs. 795 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 2: You see the ladies of a lot of these athletes 796 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 2: take the social media. 797 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 3: Bitch about there and make trouble for them. 798 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 2: By the way, I still you know what I watched 799 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 2: the other dafferens On was the giant second win over 800 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 2: the Patriots when Wes Welker dropped that pass was remember 801 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 2: and Gizelle went Berserko after the game saying, you. 802 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 3: Know, my man can't do it all. 803 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 2: You got to catch the stupid ball that you threw 804 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 2: Walker under the bus, and Brady was looking there like 805 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 2: I'm in a divorce. 806 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 3: At least I know my shorty. Now, I don't think 807 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 3: it went that way. I think at least at least 808 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 3: I know my shorty got my back. 809 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 5: Man. It's not always the best way to throw it 810 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 5: out there, But yeah, man, I used to curry. There's 811 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 5: a lot of ladies out here, you know, kind of 812 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 5: throwing their throwing there. 813 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 2: There's some more supporting there, man, but there's also a 814 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 2: personal So that's my theory on that. By the way, again, 815 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 2: and then Eli Manning leaked out also, I think you 816 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 2: and I might be in the Hall of Fame Committee 817 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 2: because according to the bylaws of the voting committee, you 818 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 2: cannot reveal anything about your vote. 819 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 3: And yet over. 820 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 2: Half of the members of the vote, when asked about 821 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,479 Speaker 2: the Belichick thing, have either said yes, I did vote 822 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 2: for him or not said an absolute violation of the 823 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 2: bye laws of the Hall of Fame Committee. And if 824 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 2: they're going to hold to that, every one of those 825 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 2: guys have made their vote public about Belichick. I think 826 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,720 Speaker 2: twenty five said they did too, said they didn't, twenty 827 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 2: three wouldn't reveal it. But those twenty seven that did 828 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 2: should be expelled from the voting committee and replaced by 829 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 2: people to really know something about the Hall of Fame. 830 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 2: I'm raising my hand right now. I'm ready to be 831 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 2: on that Pro Football Hall of Fame selection committee. 832 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I you know what, I agree with you. 833 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 5: If you're not supposed to say nothing, it's written in 834 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 5: the by laws, keep your mouth shut and don't say anything. 835 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 5: They got to change a lot of this. Oh yeah, 836 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 5: they got to change a lot of this. 837 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 4: It's a pr nightmare for they. 838 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 5: Really have to do a matter of fact, I recently 839 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 5: have become a voter and for the Southern California sports broadcast. 840 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 3: Are you real? 841 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 5: Well yeah, you know how you get you know, you 842 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 5: know I we don't have to say air you know 843 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 5: how you become one? 844 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're a member. Now 845 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 3: you vote? I vote? Now? Wow? I vote? Hell yeah, 846 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 3: I vote now. 847 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 2: By the way, here's a little secret. I've had that 848 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 2: vote whenever. I was always voting for myself, always always. 849 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 5: You think I'm telling you so I know first for 850 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 5: twenty twenty six. VJA gets one vote for something whatever 851 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 5: category fit. 852 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 3: I'm getting the vote, yes, yeah. 853 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 2: Voting for yourself is something that I you should, you 854 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 2: should I if I see my name on a ballot, yeah, 855 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 2: I'm starts at home. 856 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 3: All right. 857 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 2: Coming up in the next hour, we got a lot 858 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 2: to do, including all the coaching changes around the NFL. 859 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 2: Who did it right? Who was the big swing and miss? 860 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna break it all down. This is in Zone Radio. 861 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 862 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 2: Rolling along on this a big Sunday before the big 863 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 2: Game next Sunday. 864 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 3: This is end Zone Radio. 865 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 2: We're in the Fox Sports Radio studios and pretty much 866 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 2: today we are taking care of a lot of business 867 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 2: because next week we just tuning in. 868 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 3: We're gonna do not for but five hours next week. 869 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 2: That's right, a next hour as we are basically your 870 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 2: lead up here at Fox Sports Radio all the way 871 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 2: to the big Game. And next week we're gonna get 872 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 2: into stuff, really get it ready for the game day experience, right, 873 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a long day, and you know you 874 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 2: gotta have the prop bets. Vj's all over this. I 875 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 2: mean he's gonna have all these prop bets for you 876 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 2: about thirty of them. You got about thirty more. And 877 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 2: by the way, up to day. The reason we're doing 878 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 2: today is we gotta wait till up to date odds right, 879 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,280 Speaker 2: And so we have those five hours leading up today. 880 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 2: And also we're gonna get you ready next week for 881 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 2: what is the right food for a big, big watch party? 882 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 2: I mean, do you do a watch party usual, annual 883 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 2: or is it a family thing or. 884 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 3: Ever come through? I'm a whoever come through kind of guy. 885 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 3: You go to parties? Or is it always in your house? No, 886 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 3: it's always at my crab. 887 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 5: I have not been to someone else's house to watch 888 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl in maybe twenty years. It's always at 889 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 5: my crib because I cook bomb food. Like I'm a 890 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 5: great I'm a chef, like I'm a dad chef. I'm 891 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 5: a home chef. So my food's great and I have 892 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 5: an array of things. 893 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 3: We don't do just one thing save it. Yeah, okay, yeah. See. 894 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,439 Speaker 3: By the way, by the way, I get going. 895 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 2: The man who sat here the last few years, Rich 896 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 2: Ornberg or another cook guy. 897 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 3: You know, he's one of those guys. 898 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 2: You know he has the flamethrower with his barbecue like 899 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,760 Speaker 2: a full on flamethrower, the charcoal. 900 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 3: I have, bitty. I gotta show you some time. He 901 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 3: pulled out this flame quick. We had We had like 902 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 3: like a little haibachi, right, and we took it out 903 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 3: of the parking lot of our radio station like this is. 904 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 2: It was pitch dark as it was before our morning show. 905 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 2: It's like four five o'clock in the morning. He goes 906 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 2: like this and it was cooked to perfect. 907 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 3: Call slam. That's called flam bay. It's called man. It 908 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 3: was good. 909 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So a lot of coaching news we got to 910 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 2: catch up on. I we got a ton not only 911 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 2: head coaching hires, but also some of these key coordinator hires. 912 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 2: I want to get to one that is near and 913 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 2: dear to you on both ends of the spectrum, and 914 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 2: that is the hiring of Mike McDaniel by the Chargers. 915 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,760 Speaker 2: So he certainly had a lot of opportunities after getting 916 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 2: let go by the Dolphins. And you know, Dolphins decided 917 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 2: to turn the page despite the fact that they played 918 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 2: pretty well down the stretch. I mean, they got to 919 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 2: still figure out the quarterback situation everything else. 920 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 3: But he comes to the Chargers, and when you think about. 921 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel, he really earned his rep with the forty 922 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 2: nine ers and really with one player, Deebo Samuel. So 923 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel was one of those hybrids that Mike McDaniel 924 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 2: figured out, like, I can use this guy not just 925 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 2: as a receiver, I can use him as a running back. 926 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 2: And that one year, Deebo Samuel was the talk of 927 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 2: the NFL. I mean he was a running back, he 928 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 2: was a receiver. I mean he was doing things statistically 929 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 2: we had never seen Beforeally for Deebo, he couldn't stay healthy. 930 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 2: Maybe overuseed by Mike McDaniel. But that's the thing about 931 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel. He's known for, you know, being very creative 932 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 2: with schemes, alignments, so that you know a lot of 933 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 2: different things that he can do. 934 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 3: So let's let's look at the Chargers. 935 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 2: A team you know extremely well because you covered the 936 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 2: Chargers on a regular basis. You know that locker room, 937 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 2: you know everything else. Okay, I'm sure Jim Harbo is 938 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 2: going to stay out of his way. I mean he goes, 939 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 2: I'm hiring you because I know you can do the job, right, 940 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 2: I got other things to worry about. I'm gonna leave 941 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 2: you one hundred percent in charges. Okay, so let's talk 942 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 2: about the pieces they have and pieces they don't have. 943 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 2: That maybe Mike McDaniel's looking to fill in order to 944 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 2: execute the kind of offense that he has. So let's 945 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 2: get back to the quarterback position. From a talent standpoint, 946 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 2: there's no doubt that Justin Herbert has more talent than 947 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,919 Speaker 2: any forty nine er quarterback that he coached or any 948 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 2: quarterback he had down in Miami. So how does he 949 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 2: transform Justin Herbert from being recognized as an elite regular 950 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 2: season quarterback who obviously has not performed so well in 951 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 2: his three playoff games today? But how is he going 952 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,399 Speaker 2: to transform Justin Herbert to get him to another level? 953 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,959 Speaker 5: Well, he said in his press conference, we gotta take 954 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 5: we gotta take a lot, We gotta take some off 955 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 5: his load. This year was just too much Justin Herbert. 956 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 5: This year was too much. Pat Mahomes, this this year 957 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 5: was too much Jalen Hurts. Like there's some quarterbacks. It 958 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 5: was too much Josh Allen by the way, we haven't 959 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 5: even mentioned it. Find out he had a broken bone 960 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 5: in his foot. Yeah, like walked out, wont crutches in 961 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 5: the cast and everyone know what happened to you. Yeah, 962 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 5: I actually broke my foot the end of the season. 963 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 5: I played playoff games with you know, I don't know. 964 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 3: You know. Up you can talk about Josh Allen's Cordentils, 965 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame and everything else, you cannot challenge the 966 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 3: fact that he is a competitor. 967 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,720 Speaker 4: He is a competitor. He is a leader on that field. 968 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 5: I probably like him if he didn't play for the Bills, 969 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 5: but anyway, he You gotta take some pressure off of 970 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 5: Justin Herbert. You got to use some of these other weapons, 971 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 5: uh that they have here and the running game I 972 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,720 Speaker 5: remember in San Francisco went just Deebo Samuel Mike mcdaniey 973 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,439 Speaker 5: was the run game coordinator. And this is a team 974 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 5: that was going in the playoff games as a rusher 975 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 5: for over two hundred and seventy two hundred and eighty 976 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 5: yards against teams in playoff games. He coordinated that. He 977 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 5: was the running game coordinator in Washington. He worked the 978 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 5: running game when they were all in Atlanta together and 979 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 5: we saw Matt Ryan was his best when he did 980 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 5: what worked off play action because the running game was 981 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 5: so good. So this is what they're gonna want to do. 982 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 5: And I think this is why Jim brings the man. 983 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 5: What does Jim want to do? 984 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 3: He wants to run the football. Of course he wants 985 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,720 Speaker 3: to run them. 986 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 5: Now we got a guy who is specializing the Dolphins 987 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 5: this year. I kept throwing this up in people's face 988 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 5: and everybody was all that passing game ain't so good. Yeah, 989 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 5: showed you how great of a coach he is. We 990 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,959 Speaker 5: lost Tarreek Hill. Passing game goes down. 991 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 3: What is he then do? 992 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 5: He turns around and makes the number one running back 993 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 5: in the league at yards but career five point eight 994 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 5: a pop for a so called bad offense. 995 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 3: It's a line. When you got a so called back 996 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 3: outfits a line and. 997 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 5: You're running back is getting five point eight to pop 998 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 5: and leads the league. And he's gotta get a big deal, bro. 999 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 5: That's called coaching. That's called scheming. So I think he 1000 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 5: needs to work with taking things off of justin Herbert's plate. Now, 1001 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 5: they still gotta go get a few pieces. They're not set. 1002 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 3: Ye, All right, let's started running back. So Hampton obviously 1003 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 3: shows some prop, but he's gotta stay healthy, right, He's 1004 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 3: got to stay healthy, which I think he will. 1005 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 5: You know, the NFL wakes some of these players up. 1006 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,919 Speaker 5: NFL wake someb of these players up. Everybody just can't 1007 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 5: walk in his league and just be stuzzed like Ashing Gentz. 1008 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 3: Right, sometimes you get a little banged up. 1009 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 5: Okay, this isn't this isn't the ACC I played this, 1010 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 5: This ain't Carolina Homeboy, this Ain'tchapel Hill. 1011 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 3: This is the NFL. These hits heard. 1012 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 5: These all these guys with a bomb in college. All 1013 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 5: these guys were all stay and all that in high school. 1014 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 5: So you get I think, I think he'll work through that. 1015 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 5: Get him gone, lad McConkie, find ways to get him 1016 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:50,399 Speaker 5: the ball. 1017 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 2: Okay, now this is something. Look at I get the 1018 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 2: whole Keenan Allen thing. But Keenan Allen took away from 1019 00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 2: the guy that. 1020 00:47:58,719 --> 00:47:59,280 Speaker 3: Is your future. 1021 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 2: But Knky, I mean that, I mean, I'm sorry, Keenan. 1022 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 2: You set the Chargers records. Fine, it's time to retire. 1023 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 2: We don't need you right now. We've got to take 1024 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 2: this young guy. Well, you remember his playoff game against 1025 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 2: the Texans two years ago when he catched like eleven 1026 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 2: passes in that game. He needs to be that guy. 1027 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 3: But he was replaced essentially by the president. They let 1028 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 3: him go. That shows you something. They let him go. 1029 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 5: He came back because things just didn't work out in Chicago. 1030 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 3: But he came back. But also let me throw this 1031 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 3: name at you too. 1032 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:36,359 Speaker 5: Remember, Naji Harris, there's another power, shifty, fast, elusive back 1033 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 5: that you could just get guys in space. His Mike 1034 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 5: McDaniel's best trait was he just knows how to take 1035 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 5: the players and put him in space. 1036 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 3: Everybody knew Tyreek was getting the ball his first two 1037 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 3: years there. 1038 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 5: Everybody knew it could stop him getting eighteen hundred receiving yards. 1039 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 5: Everyone in the building knew. But he schemed so well. 1040 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 5: Number one, take pressure off of Justin Herbert was way 1041 00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 5: too much. Justin Herbert Hampton Naji Harris. I like those 1042 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 5: guys mconkey, But once again, I know we want to 1043 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,720 Speaker 5: talk about was there, but they are. They are still 1044 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,320 Speaker 5: two little officsive pieces. He might get a fin of 1045 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 5: rookie in the third or fourth round that's got some speed. 1046 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 5: Got some he found. I mean he found a chain rights. 1047 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 5: A lot of teams had had a chance to drive 1048 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 5: a chain. Yeah, they did. 1049 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 2: A reminder again, taking a job like this can get 1050 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 2: you back in the mix. I will give you an 1051 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 2: example Mike Shanahan. So Mike Shanahan was a young coach 1052 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 2: mid thirties with the Denver Broncos. What even a coordinator? 1053 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 2: The Raiders hired him as a head coach. He wasn't 1054 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 2: really ready to be a head coach, and so he 1055 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 2: gets fired. And then eventually he ends up with the 1056 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 2: forty nine ers as offensive coordinator and showed what he 1057 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 2: was all about, and then the Broncos gave him the 1058 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 2: job and the rest is history. They win a couple 1059 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 2: of Super Bowls. So Mike McDonel's a young coach, he's 1060 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 2: in his early forties. 1061 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's fine. 1062 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 2: He knows that this you talk about a guy motivated 1063 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 2: to get a job done. 1064 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:56,760 Speaker 3: He knows he's got the pieces. 1065 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,839 Speaker 2: Now if I can show everybody that I can put 1066 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 2: this team and take him next level. It's a great 1067 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 2: hire by the Chargers because Jim Harbaugh says, I want 1068 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 2: to motivated coach. I want a guy that really understands 1069 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 2: that this is a golden opportunity for him personally to 1070 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 2: get back in the mix, to get eventually a second 1071 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 2: opportunity to be a head coach. 1072 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 5: And I forget though he was wanted by like five 1073 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 5: or six teams this year, right, they weren't the right situation. No, 1074 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 5: But the fact is, I don't think this job creates 1075 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 5: another but coaching opportunity for him. There were four or 1076 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 5: five teams that wanted to interview him. To Cleveland was 1077 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 5: probably I guarantee this that's the guy Cleveland won it. 1078 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,280 Speaker 5: I guarantee that. All right, you mentioned Cleveland they wanted him. Okay, 1079 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 5: so they they ended up hiring their hire as one 1080 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 5: of the most bizarre ones. 1081 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 2: Yes, no question about it. Todd Monkin. I mean, first 1082 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 2: of all, Jim Schwartz is losing his mind. I mean 1083 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,720 Speaker 2: he thought for sure that, Okay, I'm the defensive coordinat. 1084 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,399 Speaker 2: I'm the only reason this team wins anything. Okay, let's 1085 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 2: make it clear, right. 1086 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 4: The only reason this team's winning anything is my defense ends. 1087 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 2: And you're gonna hire him, a sixty year old career 1088 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:15,359 Speaker 2: career assistant who honestly, if you look at his track record. 1089 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 4: What really stands out about him? 1090 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 3: That's Hotel Lamar won an MVP with him as the. 1091 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 4: Guess what he won an MVP before here. 1092 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 2: I know, it wasn't like Lamar suddenly emerged as an 1093 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 2: MVP candidate. 1094 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,240 Speaker 4: When this guy showed up, he already was an MVP. 1095 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 5: People said the same thing about Kyle Shanahan because he 1096 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 5: was the OC the year Matt Ryan won his MVP. 1097 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 5: I'm just saying that that was just like a feather 1098 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 5: in Shanahan's cat. 1099 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 3: Oh, he was the OC, you know, the year Matt. 1100 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 3: That's why I'm throwing out, well. 1101 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,399 Speaker 2: Monkt Obviously as soon as he announced Monk and Schwartz says, 1102 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 2: I'm out of here. 1103 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he felt slight. Of course he did. 1104 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,840 Speaker 5: He fell, He goes, I'm the one guy that is 1105 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 5: I'm actually making a difference from a coach. 1106 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 3: Was a head coach though, was like, what did he 1107 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 3: do ahead at home? 1108 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately, let's talk about our Lions insider. 1109 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,280 Speaker 3: I'm just saying Jim Schwartz was not personal. I'm just saying, 1110 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 3: let me ask good school. It has nothing to do 1111 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 3: with individual talents, all right. How bad were the Lions 1112 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 3: when he took over as their head coach? 1113 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,319 Speaker 10: Well, I mean they had nothing. They were basically a 1114 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 10: bombed out ruin an Owen sixteen team. Like I think 1115 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 10: he did an advert. He took them to the playoffs. 1116 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 10: I think he didn't addable job. My point is less 1117 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 10: about any given talent. It's more that there once you 1118 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 10: get fired from the Lion Detroit Lions. If you are 1119 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 10: the Detroit Lions head coach and you get fired, you 1120 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 10: don't get another head coaching job period. That has been 1121 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,359 Speaker 10: the case for everyone who has taken that job since 1122 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 10: the nineteen fifties. 1123 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 3: Is that true? 1124 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,439 Speaker 2: Yesecond about was Caul Well a head coach? 1125 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 1: Yes? 1126 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 3: And his last head coach was with the Detroit Lions, 1127 00:52:54,200 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 3: right Goldwell? Else, I'm thinking of Patricia Patricia way Way. 1128 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 5: Everyone from the Bobby never got another gun on. 1129 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 10: The Bible hand on the Bible. This is a real stat. 1130 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 10: I don't know where the cutoff is. It's either early 1131 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 10: sixties Buddy Parker became yes, and I think he was 1132 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,279 Speaker 10: the last one right after that in the sixties. But 1133 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 10: like no, no, George Wilson, George George Wilson became the 1134 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 10: first coach of the Dolphins and morning Way technically but 1135 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 10: he was like an interim. But if you were a 1136 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 10: full time head coach, not not in over fifty years 1137 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 10: do you get another head coaching gig. I'm sorry to 1138 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,479 Speaker 10: Jim Schwartz, I think you should have it. I thought 1139 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 10: he was gonna get hired after the job he didn't stuck. 1140 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 10: He's also a taking time bomb and the personality that 1141 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 10: is a. 1142 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean, what the hell is wrong with you? Nature? 1143 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,839 Speaker 2: Is one of those guys that you know, if you're 1144 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 2: in an interview process, his intensity can be a little 1145 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 2: off putting to certain people. 1146 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 5: Don't you want that though? I hate I don't know, man, 1147 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,360 Speaker 5: I hate that. I really do hate that, because you 1148 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 5: say you want things from people, and then when people 1149 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 5: show it to you, you say you want talent. It 1150 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 5: someone shows you talent. Now you're threatened by it. I'm sorry, Okay, yeah, 1151 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 5: go ahead. 1152 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 2: You know something I also hate is when you know, 1153 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 2: you wipe with a piece of dry toilet paper and 1154 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,720 Speaker 2: wonder if this is as good as it gets? 1155 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 3: I hate that, right, you're like. 1156 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 2: Manis well, but here's the good news. 1157 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 3: It does get better. 1158 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 2: All you have to do is switch to the life 1159 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 2: changing wet extra large fleshable Dude Wipes because wetter just 1160 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,839 Speaker 2: cleans better. 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But again, we talked about this at the top 1173 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 2: of the show. Why are we seeing so many coaching 1174 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 2: vacancies because of the two teams that are in the 1175 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 2: Super Bowl this year, two teams that were not even 1176 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 2: in the playoffs last year. Two hasn't happened in more 1177 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,439 Speaker 2: than twenty years where two teams face each other, both 1178 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,240 Speaker 2: of which were not in the playoffs the year before. 1179 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 3: So their owners are like, well, wait a second, if 1180 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 3: New Egli could do it, if Seattle can do what 1181 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 3: we can do, we just got to get the right 1182 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 3: guy now. 1183 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 2: One of the interesting hires I thought, just because it 1184 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 2: just seemed like really was the promotion of Joe Brady 1185 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 2: from offensive coordinator. 1186 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 3: Head coach of the Buffalo Bills. Yeah. 1187 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 2: So you fire Sean mcderbott, and you know, I get it, Like, 1188 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of circumstances. You know, a 1189 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,280 Speaker 2: bad call didn't help obviously for the Bills. A really 1190 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,399 Speaker 2: bad call on what a catch that was to set 1191 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 2: up a game winning field goal, and they rolled it 1192 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 2: was an interception. 1193 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 3: That was a catch, by the. 1194 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 5: Way, folks, you mean like the catch that was in 1195 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 5: an NFC championship game too. 1196 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was a catch. He had two 1197 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 2: hands on the ball, he went to the ground, he 1198 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,759 Speaker 2: was touched. What happens after that is irrelevant. It was 1199 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,359 Speaker 2: a bad call, eh, But I mean they'd sort of 1200 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:24,800 Speaker 2: but to promote from within tells me again that. 1201 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 3: That hire had everything to do with Josh Allen. 1202 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,800 Speaker 2: We know that Josh Allen was in on the meetings 1203 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 2: with all the coaching candidates and he decided, I'm most 1204 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 2: comfortable with Joe Brady to be the head coach of 1205 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. Now, Joe Brady's a little all over 1206 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 2: the map if you look at his coaching resume, right, 1207 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he really made his name in at LSU. 1208 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 5: You know, the guy that sort of put Joe Burrow 1209 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,879 Speaker 5: on the map. And of course, I mean. 1210 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 4: You could make it. You can make an argument that that. 1211 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 2: LSU team of twenty nineteen could beat any college team 1212 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 2: in the history of college football. I mean, they had 1213 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,799 Speaker 2: a perfect record. They beat more ranked teams that year 1214 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 2: than any team in the history of college football. You're 1215 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 2: talking about Jefferson and Chase as your two the two 1216 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 2: thousand and one, Cayne's team would definitely be a challenge. 1217 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 2: When you're talking about Burrow throwing the Chase and Jefferson, 1218 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 2: that's unmassed. 1219 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 5: Even Terras Marshall. Terras Marshall was also there was a 1220 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 5: fresh he was a young receiver. 1221 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean, look at it. 1222 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 2: Alabama had some pretty unbelievable I mean, but I mean 1223 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 2: the bottom line is that's where Joe Brady sort of 1224 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 2: made his rep right and then you know, since then, 1225 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 2: it's been really a mixed bag as far as Joe 1226 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 2: Brady is concerned. Then he goes to Buffalo with a 1227 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 2: proven quarterback. Do you give him any credit for Josh Allen? 1228 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 2: Josh Allen was already a proven commodity. But anyway, that 1229 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 2: is their choice, and my guess on the surface of 1230 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 2: that choice is nothing's going to change. 1231 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:00,919 Speaker 3: To me. It just seems like a lateral move. 1232 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 2: I mean, we see these lateral moves, and I think 1233 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,960 Speaker 2: the same thing we talked about last week about Mike 1234 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 2: McCarthy taking over for Mike Tomlin and Pittsburgh. I you know, 1235 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 2: McCarthy to me is a respected veteran coach. 1236 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 3: You think that's a lateral move. 1237 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 2: I don't think that they're gonna start winning playoff games 1238 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 2: because McCarthy is the coach. 1239 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 3: Not really in place. I think to me, you. 1240 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 4: Think that he's You think he has a better resume 1241 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 4: than Mike Tomlin. 1242 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 5: No, it's not about resumes. I'm simply zero in. 1243 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 3: What's he gonna do there? This have a much better offense? 1244 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 3: That's for damn sure? 1245 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 4: Is he with a forty three year old Aaron Rodgers. 1246 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 3: I'm going to back out on it. I think Aaron 1247 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 3: Rodgers has done. It's a good it's a cool story. 1248 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 3: They don't have a quarterback. 1249 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 5: Go get say, go get one Steve whoever he feels 1250 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 5: like he can, he can mentor or whoever. Whatever happens 1251 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 5: when somebody. I do believe Malik Willis is gonna be 1252 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 5: out there. I do believe Trey Lance is gonna be 1253 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 5: out There's some there's some quarterbacks, like every off. 1254 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 3: Seasons theme that we don't know we're in. We haven't 1255 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 3: even played the super Bowl yet. Come within the next amounth. 1256 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 2: You honestly believe these guys could be elite franchise quarterback 1257 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 2: if they get. 1258 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 5: In the right system and under the right guy that 1259 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 5: knows how to develop a quarterback. 1260 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 3: Why can't they? 1261 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so you're saying Sam Darnold is now the example 1262 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 2: that everybody else that if you get the right would 1263 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 2: you a bot bit rubbing. 1264 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 3: In my face for the last ten weeks? Okay? 1265 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,200 Speaker 5: This, so why can't it beat that for these other guys? 1266 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 5: Trey Lance has talent. Let's not act like he doesn't. 1267 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,280 Speaker 5: Let's not act like he doesn't this. Did you see 1268 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:28,920 Speaker 5: his last game? 1269 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,320 Speaker 3: I don't care about his last game. 1270 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 2: I'm talking about I don't care about football, accurate, don't. 1271 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:35,919 Speaker 3: Care about the last game. 1272 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 5: As long as you get with someone that can help 1273 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,560 Speaker 5: you change those things. Mike McCarthy is the guy that 1274 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 5: I believe could change a player. 1275 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,480 Speaker 3: He can help a guy out. Why why not? 1276 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 2: Why you're betting on McCarthy. I'm saying they're gonna be 1277 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 2: ten games. 1278 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 3: I'll give him ten wins. 1279 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 2: Well, that's every year they win ten games. Well they 1280 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 2: win nine or ten games. They won ten games this year. 1281 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,280 Speaker 3: But I don't have a better offense. 1282 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll say that, but I mean, as far as 1283 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 2: Joe Brady is concerned, what's gonna change in Buffalo. Nothing, 1284 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 2: because he's already been in the locker room the last 1285 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 2: couple of years. So you know, that's why we are 1286 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 2: floating around the whole philip Rivers situation. Say, well, it 1287 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 2: seems weird that you would hire a high school coach. 1288 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, forget that high school coaching stuff. Imip Rivers 1289 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 2: just to me would bring a certain right, you know, 1290 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 2: Oof to a locker room that's probably gone. 1291 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 3: A little stale. 1292 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,520 Speaker 5: How long would that last though? Because Oof doesn't win. 1293 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 3: Games, well, you only need to win one. 1294 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,040 Speaker 2: If you're the Buffalo Bills, all you're hoping for is 1295 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:38,520 Speaker 2: one tie, just one time. Have the football gods smile 1296 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 2: on us and give us a super Bowl. 1297 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:40,760 Speaker 3: That's all we want. 1298 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 4: You asked any Buffalo Bills fan. 1299 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 3: If you threw this out. 1300 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,600 Speaker 2: To a Buffalo Bills fan, and I'm listening, that might 1301 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 2: be listening right now. If I could throw this out 1302 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,439 Speaker 2: to you, I will guarantee you win the Super Bowl 1303 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 2: this year. In exchange, he will have twenty consecutive losing seasons. 1304 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 2: And you get that one super Bowl you sign up 1305 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:04,439 Speaker 2: for that. I know what the answer, Okay, I say 1306 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 2: ten consecutive losing. 1307 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,439 Speaker 5: SS right ten twenty bro because smer later that you're 1308 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:10,600 Speaker 5: a cowboy fan at that point. 1309 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,400 Speaker 2: Although I will say this, when Denver won that last 1310 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, right, and they won that Super Bowl, Peyton 1311 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 2: Manning could even hold this high, you know, you couldn't 1312 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 2: throw the ball at all. 1313 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 3: Right, they win the Super. 1314 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 2: Bowl and the strength of von Miller and the defense, 1315 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 2: and then what happened ten straight years of being garbage? 1316 01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 4: I mean they literally fell off the map. 1317 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,240 Speaker 2: Now it's funny because if you go into that game 1318 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,640 Speaker 2: and say, all right, in exchange for winning the Super Bowl, 1319 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 2: and of course obviously the Broncos had already won super Bowls, 1320 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,080 Speaker 2: but winning this super Bowl, especially after getting humiliated you 1321 01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,960 Speaker 2: know a couple of years before by Seattle, you're going 1322 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 2: to be a loser for the next eight or nine years. 1323 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 2: And I'm sure every Broncos fans they sign me up. 1324 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 2: And then reality said in right, and all of a 1325 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,760 Speaker 2: sudden it was like, wow, we are we are off. 1326 01:01:55,840 --> 01:02:00,400 Speaker 5: And let me add and that Super Bowl win eighty 1327 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 5: six total offensive yards for the defense dominated completely destroyed 1328 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,920 Speaker 5: and it's never a super Bowl that we eat. The 1329 01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,919 Speaker 5: only time we ever really talk about that Super Bowl 1330 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,280 Speaker 5: is when we want to is when we want to 1331 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 5: crap on Cam Newton. The only time people ever bringing 1332 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 5: that Super Bowl up was last time somebody mentioned Von 1333 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 5: Miller on national radio. 1334 01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,919 Speaker 2: By the way, I'm glad you mentioned that, because coming 1335 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 2: up in the next hour, I want to break down 1336 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 2: your most memorable super Bowls. 1337 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it, and both good and bad. And 1338 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 3: I've got some of my own to talk about as well. 1339 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 3: All right, let's find out what is a trending right now? 1340 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 3: So manci uh, do you have any Super Bowls that 1341 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:43,000 Speaker 3: you've watched over the years that stand out in your lifetime? 1342 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 8: That stand out? I mean, like I feel like we 1343 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 8: all remember the Seahawks Patriots Milcolm Butler. 1344 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, Like that's one that you kind of just don't 1345 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 9: holy moment. 1346 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, And like I didn't care who won. I just 1347 01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 8: was like, did that just happen? 1348 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1349 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,400 Speaker 8: Is that really how this game is gonna has? 1350 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 2: Marsha Guys, I was doing a viewing party for that 1351 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,920 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. So I was at this restaurant and we 1352 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 2: had a big. 1353 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 4: Viewing party and there was a table of Patriot fans. 1354 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 3: It was like a family. 1355 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 2: It was like eight to ten of them, all decked 1356 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,480 Speaker 2: out in their Patriots gear, and they were super nice. 1357 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,720 Speaker 2: You know, I don't root for the Patriots, but I 1358 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 2: was just sort of you know, the seattle was going 1359 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,200 Speaker 2: right down. I'm like, oh, this is so bad for 1360 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 2: you guys. Remember the miracle catch. And then Marshawn gets 1361 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,560 Speaker 2: to the one yard line and now the question is 1362 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,320 Speaker 2: should New England just let him score so that at 1363 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,320 Speaker 2: least they have maybe some time left. So I'm sitting 1364 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,440 Speaker 2: there with his family literally like commiserating with him, like, 1365 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,320 Speaker 2: oh man, so close, so close, so close, And. 1366 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 5: Then looking at Belichick to Belichick, Belichick, there is that drive. 1367 01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 4: There is no no excuse for that play. None, zero. 1368 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1369 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,920 Speaker 3: Not only that, think about this, when you're throwing a. 1370 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,280 Speaker 2: Pass at that spot on the field over the line 1371 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 2: for a quick pass and your quarterbacks five foot eleven, 1372 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 2: just what that pass is a high trajectory because if 1373 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,360 Speaker 2: you have a six five quarterback, he's going to throw 1374 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 2: it down. 1375 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 3: But a five to eleven quarterback has to throw it 1376 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 3: a little bit of a lob right, yes, which is 1377 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,720 Speaker 3: how that ball was intercepting Absolutely one quick last thing 1378 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 3: question I've always wanted to ask people, is that passing offence? No, 1379 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 3: if you know, if he's the ball he went you 1380 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,880 Speaker 3: go back and really look at that play, to. 1381 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 8: Look at the play and slow it down. So I 1382 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,960 Speaker 8: didn't think so at that moment. You get what I'm saying. 1383 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 9: I was. 1384 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:45,960 Speaker 5: I thought I thought a flag was gonna come out 1385 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 5: because he's right, he's going for the ball, but he 1386 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 5: goes through the receiver. 1387 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 2: But he was, he was he was going to go 1388 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 2: back and watch that play, saying, yeah, he didn't push 1389 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 2: the receiver away. 1390 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,560 Speaker 3: He was going for the ball and bumped into the REI. 1391 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 8: I didn't at the moment, didn't think that at all. 1392 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,680 Speaker 8: Didn't think it was studying out terrific call. 1393 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's on Pete Carroll's resume along with this disaster 1394 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:08,800 Speaker 4: the Raiders. 1395 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I'll never forget that. I'll never hear of. 1396 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:18,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right. Twenty thirty five feature Hall of Famer. 1397 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 9: All right, guys, Well, it seems like Seahawks offensive coordinator 1398 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 9: Clint Qbiac has a plan after the super Bowl because 1399 01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 9: nothing can be official until then, but he intends to 1400 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 9: try to work out a deal to become the next 1401 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,960 Speaker 9: head coach of the Raiders, meaning the Arizona Cardinals are 1402 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,040 Speaker 9: the only team still looking for their coach if this 1403 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 9: does happen and the three candidates left. According to multiple reports, 1404 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:45,720 Speaker 9: Rams offensive coordinator Mike Lafleura, Dolphins defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver, 1405 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 9: and former Falcons head coach Rahie Morris are the final 1406 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,640 Speaker 9: three for the Arizona card You should get the job, 1407 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 9: you think so? 1408 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:54,560 Speaker 8: Okay? 1409 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,240 Speaker 3: I thought he got shafted in Atlanta. 1410 01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, all right. When it comes to the NBA. Guy, 1411 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 8: No James Harden for my Clippers tonight. 1412 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 9: I'm very upset because they're taking on a very good 1413 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 9: Phoenix team in Phoenix. Kawhi Leonard bogdan Bogdanovic are expected 1414 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,840 Speaker 9: to play Norman Powell for the Heat questionable tonight because 1415 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,880 Speaker 9: of personal reasons. That's why James Arden is out, by 1416 01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 9: the way, for personal reasons. The Heat take on the 1417 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:20,080 Speaker 9: Bulls tonight in men's college hoops. Right now, with about 1418 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:21,960 Speaker 9: ten minutes to go in the game, number twelve per 1419 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 9: Due pulling away from Maryland seventy one to forty three. Also, 1420 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 9: halfway through the second half, we're number twenty three Alabama 1421 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,760 Speaker 9: on the road losing to Number nineteen Florida sixty six 1422 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 9: to forty seven, and late in the first half Number 1423 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:38,120 Speaker 9: eight Iowa leeds Kansas State twenty nine to thirteen. But 1424 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 9: last night, I'm gonna give you guys a quick little 1425 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,520 Speaker 9: clip here Rick Barnes, head coach of Tennessee's basketball team, 1426 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 9: who has been on. 1427 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,440 Speaker 8: Like a nice little streak as of the Lake. They 1428 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 8: just won last night, but they still had fifteen turnovers. 1429 01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,080 Speaker 8: So after the game, this is what he told the media, 1430 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:59,320 Speaker 8: just out of the turnovers and what the passes and all. 1431 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,920 Speaker 3: That against some of the passes that we flow, and 1432 01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 3: you just. 1433 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,280 Speaker 2: I don't know what to say other than sometimes I 1434 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:07,920 Speaker 2: wanted my guards are betting on games. 1435 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,400 Speaker 3: I shouldn't say that, but you know that's. 1436 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 9: What I race said. 1437 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:15,479 Speaker 3: I don't want, but I just wonder what's to happen. 1438 01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,320 Speaker 3: I mean, because I know there we're too good at 1439 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 3: players to do that without a match. 1440 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 2: I apologize I shouldn't have said that, but because i'm 1441 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,480 Speaker 2: but the fact is we've got it. 1442 01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,600 Speaker 8: We've got to get So he's wondering if that's so funny. 1443 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 3: All right? 1444 01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,240 Speaker 4: First of all, Rick Barnes like one hundred years old. 1445 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy has literally been coaching since I think 1446 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:38,760 Speaker 2: Nate Smith put up the peach baskets. 1447 01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,200 Speaker 3: I mean, that's a lot of long this guy has 1448 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,960 Speaker 3: been around, to believe. He said, that's what happens when 1449 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,320 Speaker 3: you're like way too long to the party, like you 1450 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,160 Speaker 3: just lost your mind. That's a firewell offense. 1451 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:50,400 Speaker 8: And everyone laughed. 1452 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:54,600 Speaker 9: Nobody, nobody seemed that. I was surprised at how much 1453 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,720 Speaker 9: people like laughed about it. I thought it was going 1454 01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:57,800 Speaker 9: to be more like, we. 1455 01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:58,280 Speaker 3: Know what it is. 1456 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,200 Speaker 5: But as a coach, and I love me some Rick Barnes, 1457 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,880 Speaker 5: I love me some Rick Barnes. That is a one 1458 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,920 Speaker 5: hundred percent fireble of fits because. 1459 01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,240 Speaker 8: You cannot joke about that chick there out there. 1460 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,640 Speaker 5: There are people that think this stuff's rigged, and no 1461 01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:19,400 Speaker 5: one believes in sports no more. And you honestly not legendary. 1462 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,240 Speaker 5: Can again legendary? Okay, he's a legendary damn basketball coach 1463 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:27,840 Speaker 5: in college basketball. Even jokingly that's like with some Bobby 1464 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 5: Knight type stuff. He's, oh my god, I didn't know 1465 01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 5: he said that. That's a fire and I love the guy, 1466 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,640 Speaker 5: but if you're the ad there, you have to fire him. 1467 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:39,719 Speaker 2: Well, how about this here's the headline, Tennis basketball, Tennessee 1468 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:45,080 Speaker 2: Basketball's Rick Barnes shares hilarious comment, and that's. 1469 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,400 Speaker 8: How it seemed like the reaction. I was surprised that. 1470 01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,800 Speaker 5: He said it, as the headline cannot say that as 1471 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:53,599 Speaker 5: a college basketball coach. 1472 01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 2: There's another headline that says, Rick Barnes awkwardly backtracks after 1473 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,120 Speaker 2: joking about Tennessee players betting on games. 1474 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:02,560 Speaker 1: Is it? 1475 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,840 Speaker 8: I think the reason I'm shocked as well, like you 1476 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,240 Speaker 8: r VJ. Did he do it because they won? 1477 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,760 Speaker 9: So it was like, you know, I can joke about 1478 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,600 Speaker 9: it because we did win despite fifteen turnovers. 1479 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:16,720 Speaker 3: You gotta read the rule. 1480 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,599 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously this is all over the news right now, 1481 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 4: right I mean, no. 1482 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:25,599 Speaker 5: He had a brain fade. Old god, old man had 1483 01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,439 Speaker 5: a brain fade. When he's he sixty seven, he's seventy one. 1484 01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 5: Oh hell, there he goes. That's all I need to hear. 1485 01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,240 Speaker 5: Old PC, old people man, Old people don't care. 1486 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,840 Speaker 3: Old people. Just you know, you want to know how 1487 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 3: you want to know some of my things about your 1488 01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,120 Speaker 3: new boyfriend or girlfriend, bring them around your old honor uncle. 1489 01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:45,360 Speaker 5: They'll tell you right there that baby. Leave her alone, 1490 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:46,920 Speaker 5: don't bring her don't bring her. 1491 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,800 Speaker 3: Back to my house no more. Baby. Wow, all right, 1492 01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,200 Speaker 3: I didn't know that. I'm actually shocked, Steve. Yeah, that 1493 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:53,400 Speaker 3: is Rick Barnes. 1494 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:53,559 Speaker 7: Wow. 1495 01:09:53,640 --> 01:10:00,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, thanks my god, don't get the joke. Yeah, okay, ah, 1496 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,759 Speaker 3: I shouldn't have said that. You're right, Rick, you shouldn't 1497 01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,839 Speaker 3: get delete that. They're like, no, you shouldn't. 1498 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,560 Speaker 2: You shouldn't have said that one. Thank you, monzie it. 1499 01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,080 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you a little bit later on. Once again, 1500 01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,160 Speaker 2: we're in the Fox Sports Radio studios. Now, if you 1501 01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,840 Speaker 2: miss any of today's show, be sure to catch the podcast. 1502 01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,759 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. 1503 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,800 Speaker 2: Right after the show, today's podcast will be posted. Follow 1504 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,879 Speaker 2: the podcast, rate a five stars. You can even provide 1505 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,600 Speaker 2: a review. 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So Brian Dabele 1510 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,360 Speaker 2: was hired by the Titans to be their new offensive 1511 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:43,800 Speaker 2: courd absolutely. 1512 01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,160 Speaker 4: And the guy that hire him is Robert Sala. 1513 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,479 Speaker 2: So we are just talking a couple of years ago 1514 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,160 Speaker 2: that Robert Sala was the coach of the Jets and 1515 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:53,920 Speaker 2: Brian Dable was the coach of the Giants. 1516 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,120 Speaker 3: So the two New York coaches, the two guys that 1517 01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:58,679 Speaker 3: feel the heat of being. 1518 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:02,400 Speaker 2: Coaches really in New Jersey. But I mean technically the 1519 01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:06,959 Speaker 2: New York teams end up together. Now, I would imagine 1520 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:11,280 Speaker 2: from Sala's standpoint, if anyone could understand what he went 1521 01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,240 Speaker 2: through as the Jets coach, it would be Brian Dable 1522 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:18,200 Speaker 2: having been the Giants coach. I'm very intrigued by this. 1523 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I watched the Titans over the 1524 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,280 Speaker 2: course of the year. You know, cam Ward was a 1525 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,360 Speaker 2: rookie quarterback. He did some good things. He did a 1526 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:27,800 Speaker 2: lot of bad things, but I mean. 1527 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 4: The talents got he definitely wasn't going backwards. 1528 01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:35,400 Speaker 2: I think cam Ward has certainly the ability to be 1529 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,599 Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback, not elite, but at least a franchise quarterback. 1530 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:41,400 Speaker 3: So I'm very intrigued. 1531 01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,200 Speaker 2: I mean, we know what Brian Dable did to help 1532 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,920 Speaker 2: Josh Allen become an elite quarterback in this league. You know, 1533 01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 2: when you go back to the whole Daniel Jones situation 1534 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 2: with the Giants, it's really hard to really find out 1535 01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,920 Speaker 2: what happened there. Of course, getting rid of Saquon Barkley 1536 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,519 Speaker 2: didn't help the situation for the Giants. I mean, I 1537 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 2: don't understand that first year, you know, they make the playoffs, 1538 01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,240 Speaker 2: they win a road playoff game against the Vikings. Things 1539 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,759 Speaker 2: looked like they were good. They signed you know, Daniel 1540 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:14,040 Speaker 2: Jones to a contract. It would seem like Dable was 1541 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,080 Speaker 2: doing the right thing, and then the. 1542 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,400 Speaker 4: Wheels fell off, completely fell. 1543 01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,360 Speaker 3: Off for him to get fired. 1544 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,040 Speaker 4: But as an offensive coordinator, I just like this. 1545 01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,840 Speaker 2: I like this whole matching up of two guys that 1546 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:27,720 Speaker 2: just a couple of years ago were the two New 1547 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,320 Speaker 2: York coaches now teaming up in Tennessee with less spotlight 1548 01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,800 Speaker 2: and maybe just getting back to the core of who 1549 01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,040 Speaker 2: they are as coaches. 1550 01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,040 Speaker 5: Well not just only the core who they are as coaches. 1551 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,360 Speaker 5: I had five when I text this out to you, 1552 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,080 Speaker 5: I wrote down five coaching moves that I thought with 1553 01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,360 Speaker 5: a top five coaching move. This was number five to me. Yeah, 1554 01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,960 Speaker 5: I started right here and I told you, guys, Sala's 1555 01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:48,639 Speaker 5: going to get a job. 1556 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:50,519 Speaker 3: Oh no reason, Yes, yes, you were on that one. 1557 01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,559 Speaker 3: I didn't know you was Sala's going to get a job. 1558 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:56,200 Speaker 5: Guys, Look, look exactly what the defense looked like with 1559 01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,880 Speaker 5: San Francisco. Look at what the dad defense was with 1560 01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,639 Speaker 5: the Jets. He just Zach Wilson as his quarterback. He'd 1561 01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:03,720 Speaker 5: have a quarterback, he had a DFA. 1562 01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:07,800 Speaker 3: He had Annon Rodgers. Well, yeah, we have breaking. 1563 01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:13,040 Speaker 1: News, breaking news from Fox Sports. 1564 01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 9: According to multiple reports, the Cardinals plan to hire Mike 1565 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:21,519 Speaker 9: Lafleur as their next head coach, finalizing still working a 1566 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,519 Speaker 9: five year deal. NFL Network ESPN both tweeting about it 1567 01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:25,880 Speaker 9: right now. 1568 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,040 Speaker 2: All right, so Koobiak is going to be the next 1569 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,160 Speaker 2: coach of the Raiders, what it seems like after the 1570 01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,439 Speaker 2: Super Bowl and the Floor is the coach now of 1571 01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:33,280 Speaker 2: the Cardinals. 1572 01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:34,000 Speaker 8: That's what it seems. 1573 01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:35,840 Speaker 3: So those are the last two vacancy. 1574 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,439 Speaker 5: To systematic guys, not culture guys. So we'll see how 1575 01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,800 Speaker 5: that works out. Just just two three years from now, 1576 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:46,320 Speaker 5: let's check in on those two hires systematic guys again, guys, 1577 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,559 Speaker 5: Well we don't know that, okay, Well, all right, we'll see. 1578 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,200 Speaker 4: I mean, did you think mcdan a McDonald was going 1579 01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:53,160 Speaker 4: to be that kind. 1580 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,439 Speaker 5: Of absolutely because he comes from a culture coach Harball, 1581 01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:56,920 Speaker 5: Jim Harball is a coulture guy. 1582 01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:57,320 Speaker 3: You know that. 1583 01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,800 Speaker 5: Jim Jim Harball's I know you don't like on, but 1584 01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,120 Speaker 5: Jim Harball is a coach, a guy we can't do. 1585 01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,280 Speaker 5: We can't do that, Steve, come on, that's a coachre 1586 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,759 Speaker 5: guy again. Anywhere he goes, he changes way back to coaching. 1587 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:13,280 Speaker 2: Then Redskins hired this obscure offensive coordinator that really wasn't 1588 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,479 Speaker 2: the off coordinator for the Chargers because Don Coreo was 1589 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 2: running the offense. Some anonymous guy named Joe Gibbs coacher. 1590 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 2: And his first year they started zero to five and 1591 01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,360 Speaker 2: they were just like, get that rid of this guy. 1592 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,880 Speaker 2: He ends up eight to eight that first year, wins 1593 01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:28,680 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl the next year. Now he's in the hall. 1594 01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,920 Speaker 3: But what did he create there? Man? Come on, the coach. 1595 01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,240 Speaker 2: These guys are going to create all. You don't know 1596 01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,400 Speaker 2: that until they actually get the opportunity. All right, on 1597 01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,880 Speaker 2: the other side, we'll continue on here with the coaching carousel. 1598 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:45,800 Speaker 2: Now that apparently all ten vacancies have been filled. Wow, 1599 01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:47,439 Speaker 2: this is end Zone Radio. 1600 01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,639 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 1601 01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:54,280 Speaker 3: End Zone Radio. 1602 01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,519 Speaker 2: Harvin and Husky with you here. When the Fox Sports 1603 01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:01,800 Speaker 2: Radio studios our miner again. Next Sunday, there's a big 1604 01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,680 Speaker 2: game going on, and. 1605 01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:08,719 Speaker 3: We are gonna lead you all the way up pretty 1606 01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:12,040 Speaker 3: much to kickoff five hours now. 1607 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,519 Speaker 2: It is nothing we are We are going to give 1608 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,960 Speaker 2: you the full game day experience next Sunday, full game 1609 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:23,760 Speaker 2: day experience, so you can max out the whole big 1610 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:28,280 Speaker 2: game day, you know, talk about food, talk about prop bets, 1611 01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,519 Speaker 2: talk about all the fun stuff that go along with 1612 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:31,160 Speaker 2: the big game. 1613 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:31,800 Speaker 3: Can I one. 1614 01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,640 Speaker 5: Can we talk about anticipation of commercials? 1615 01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:35,160 Speaker 11: Oh? 1616 01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 3: Absolutelys. Anticipation of commercial we'll talk about that, by the way. 1617 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 2: Coming up in the next hour, we're going to share 1618 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:46,679 Speaker 2: some of our personal memories of memorable Super Bowls. Okay, 1619 01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:51,519 Speaker 2: I have actually showing you how old I am. I 1620 01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:55,680 Speaker 2: actually watched the second Super Bowl. I didn't watch the 1621 01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,960 Speaker 2: first one, but I watched the second one between the 1622 01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,880 Speaker 2: Oakland Raiders and the Green Bay Packers, then known as 1623 01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:02,800 Speaker 2: the AFL NFL Championship Game. 1624 01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:07,120 Speaker 4: I was nine years old, nine and a half years old. 1625 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:07,439 Speaker 6: Wow. 1626 01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:11,360 Speaker 2: And I not only did I watch that game, but 1627 01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,719 Speaker 2: on a piece of paper, I wrote the score down 1628 01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,240 Speaker 2: of the game underneath the previous score. 1629 01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,080 Speaker 3: So there were two games. So and I wanted you know, 1630 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,719 Speaker 3: I was always doing my stat work at an early age. 1631 01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:27,320 Speaker 3: So I actually it was thirty three to fourteen Green Bay. 1632 01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:29,600 Speaker 4: Beat the Oakland Raiders. I had that written on a 1633 01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:30,320 Speaker 4: piece of paper. 1634 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:32,680 Speaker 5: My first Super Bowl ever watched was a Raiders game 1635 01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:33,479 Speaker 5: a gas the Redskins. 1636 01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh there you go. Mother had just been transferred 1637 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:37,880 Speaker 3: to the Pentagon. I will share a story about that. 1638 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we'll share some Super Bowl stories over the years. 1639 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 3: Coaching. 1640 01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,880 Speaker 2: By the way, getting back to Sean McVay, here are 1641 01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:48,959 Speaker 2: you talk about a coaching tree. 1642 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,599 Speaker 3: Right with the apparent hiring a Mike Lafloor. 1643 01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:57,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, Matt Laflor, Mike Lafloor, Zach Taylor, Brandon Staley, 1644 01:16:58,280 --> 01:16:58,920 Speaker 2: Liam Cohen. 1645 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,479 Speaker 4: Right there, there's a just future tree. That's a tree. 1646 01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:02,040 Speaker 3: That's a tree. 1647 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,439 Speaker 2: I mean, these are all guys that were coordinators of 1648 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:08,920 Speaker 2: his or top level assistants that ended up getting Kevin O'Connell. 1649 01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,640 Speaker 3: There's another one, right, I mean, it's pretty. 1650 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:16,000 Speaker 2: Impressive to think about a guy just celebrated his fortieth birthday. 1651 01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:19,360 Speaker 2: Now again, he worked under Mike Shanahan. And if you 1652 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,240 Speaker 2: want to go back, I mean you can think about 1653 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,960 Speaker 2: you know who was well, Mike McDaniel was a guy 1654 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:30,600 Speaker 2: that also they were together watching. 1655 01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,280 Speaker 5: Back and you could put Kyle and right laflora greenback. 1656 01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:36,400 Speaker 5: After three of those guys were together. He used to 1657 01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,000 Speaker 5: have wars in their meeting room because they were all 1658 01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,759 Speaker 5: fighting to get their plays in before they all became 1659 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:42,719 Speaker 5: you know, coordinator. 1660 01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,880 Speaker 2: So that that era of the early twenty tens under 1661 01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,880 Speaker 2: Mike Shanahan. So uh yeah, I mean, he's he's got 1662 01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:52,280 Speaker 2: a pretty impressive tree. But that explains I mean, and really, 1663 01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,639 Speaker 2: when you think about it, the success of Sean McVay 1664 01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,679 Speaker 2: changed the whole dynamic of the coach coaching hires. Oh yeah, 1665 01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,559 Speaker 2: they weren't afraid to hire these thirty something guys thirty 1666 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:05,759 Speaker 2: one exactly to be a thirty He was the youngest 1667 01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,439 Speaker 2: coach in the history of the NFL at the time. 1668 01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:11,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's called the Sean McVay effect. And now 1669 01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:12,240 Speaker 2: the Cardinals are hoping they. 1670 01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,120 Speaker 4: Picked the right guy. We'll see if that's going to 1671 01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:14,599 Speaker 4: happen again. 1672 01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:18,120 Speaker 2: It looks like Clint Kubiak, who is not out of 1673 01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:21,160 Speaker 2: the Sean mcvega three, is going to be the next coach. 1674 01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,120 Speaker 2: Gary Son, Gary Sun, who by the way, is a 1675 01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,040 Speaker 2: Super Bowl winning coach. 1676 01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:29,719 Speaker 5: He sure is when he's a backup to John Elway 1677 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,400 Speaker 5: for the Broncos Gary Kolbiac. 1678 01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,960 Speaker 4: All right, so now that do we have filled the vacancies. 1679 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:38,320 Speaker 2: And again it's not official yet as far as Kubiak 1680 01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,160 Speaker 2: is concerned, because obviously he is still getting ready to 1681 01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:43,960 Speaker 2: be the coordinator for the Seahawks and the upcoming Super Bowl, 1682 01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,439 Speaker 2: but all signs are he will be the next coach 1683 01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,639 Speaker 2: of the Las Vegas Raiders. So what would you say 1684 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:54,880 Speaker 2: is your least favorite hire of these ten hires for 1685 01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:56,480 Speaker 2: these folk vacancies. 1686 01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,040 Speaker 3: I agree with you, the Browns dead. 1687 01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:03,240 Speaker 5: I don't understand well because I don't like I don't 1688 01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:04,519 Speaker 5: want to make it sound like I'm trying to like 1689 01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:08,200 Speaker 5: crap on the Browns, but it almost kind of feels 1690 01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:11,360 Speaker 5: like the guy that goes to the prom with the 1691 01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,400 Speaker 5: third girl on this list, Like the first chick is 1692 01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,200 Speaker 5: with the star quarterback, the second shorty is going with 1693 01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,760 Speaker 5: the star basketball player, so you have to settle for 1694 01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,760 Speaker 5: the third girl from the debate team. 1695 01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,120 Speaker 2: Well, you just fired a guy that had no problem 1696 01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:28,080 Speaker 2: finding another job immediately immediately. Stefanski is a two time 1697 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,080 Speaker 2: NFL Coach of the Year. He had obviously some highs 1698 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,599 Speaker 2: and lows, and maybe you know they just I mean 1699 01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:36,800 Speaker 2: it just again. We get back to organizations. When you 1700 01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,640 Speaker 2: have organizations that can sistently find ways to lose, or 1701 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,280 Speaker 2: in the case of the New England Patriots, find a way. 1702 01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:46,600 Speaker 5: To rebound, rebound, it goes to the top and they 1703 01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,439 Speaker 5: ate two straight, four and thirteen seasons. 1704 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:50,479 Speaker 3: The Patriots did, Yeah, they did. 1705 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,000 Speaker 5: They sucked it up and they ate it because they said, hey, listen, 1706 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,360 Speaker 5: we dominated for twenty years, but let's take these twenty 1707 01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:55,840 Speaker 5: four months. 1708 01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:57,799 Speaker 2: Let the we'll get it right back. But the firing 1709 01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:02,320 Speaker 2: of Mayo one of their all. It was basically they said, look, 1710 01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,680 Speaker 2: we made a mistake, made a mistake. We should have 1711 01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,760 Speaker 2: hired Vabel in the first place. They don't linger when 1712 01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:12,559 Speaker 2: they they recognize their mistakes. So knock a mail, hopefully 1713 01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:16,200 Speaker 2: get another opportunity down the road. But they knew he 1714 01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,680 Speaker 2: was not the right guy, and so I think give 1715 01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,840 Speaker 2: him another two or three years. No, he wasn't the 1716 01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,200 Speaker 2: right guy, but they bring him Vrabel and now they're 1717 01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,280 Speaker 2: in the super Bowl. Crazy Dabo sala I have McDaniel 1718 01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:28,960 Speaker 2: already talked about him. I thought Jesse Minta to be 1719 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,000 Speaker 2: more is gonna be really good. I did like Halfley 1720 01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:32,680 Speaker 2: to the Dolphins, not because I'm a fan, but only 1721 01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,200 Speaker 2: because the GM comes with them, right like, and so 1722 01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,120 Speaker 2: I think that's a good combination. Then the number one 1723 01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,160 Speaker 2: you know on my list, Harball to the Giants they 1724 01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:41,600 Speaker 2: win ten eleven games, then he's he's gonna win ten 1725 01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,400 Speaker 2: eleven games next year for the Giants. I'm telling you, 1726 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,320 Speaker 2: hear guys, I cannot wait to see you. And I 1727 01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,360 Speaker 2: say I told you John harbuz the most overrated. 1728 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,360 Speaker 5: You can't Scott this in a text message. 1729 01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,160 Speaker 3: Man. We're gonna celebrate the big game coming up on 1730 01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:56,519 Speaker 3: end Zell Radio. 1731 01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,679 Speaker 1: Listen, Fox Sports Radio Radio. 1732 01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,639 Speaker 3: Fun, fun, fun, That's all we do every single Sunday 1733 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:05,560 Speaker 3: here Harbin. 1734 01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:06,679 Speaker 4: And Husky end Zone Radio. 1735 01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:08,400 Speaker 3: We just have fun. 1736 01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,599 Speaker 2: Why not, Oh what are we doing? We're talking sports man. 1737 01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,719 Speaker 2: That's all we do here here on Fox Sports the Radio. 1738 01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,160 Speaker 2: And at this time of the year, there's just so 1739 01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,960 Speaker 2: many things to talk about. Our focus though, is the NFL. 1740 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,240 Speaker 2: That's what we're all about here on end Zone Radio. 1741 01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:25,519 Speaker 2: And we have so many great stories who have been 1742 01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,320 Speaker 2: talking about. So the Big Game is next Sunday. We're 1743 01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,280 Speaker 2: gonna do five hours leading up to the game. So 1744 01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,040 Speaker 2: we're gonna get you set with everything. Well of all 1745 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,360 Speaker 2: the prop bets, talk about the food and everything else. 1746 01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,280 Speaker 2: What else did you want to commercial? Commercial? 1747 01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:38,680 Speaker 5: Yes? 1748 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,320 Speaker 3: By the way, I will say this all right. 1749 01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,840 Speaker 2: So I have been very fortunate over the years to 1750 01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:49,040 Speaker 2: be credentialed for many super Bowls, twenty six to be exact, 1751 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,720 Speaker 2: where I've actually been credentialed for the game. Now that 1752 01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,439 Speaker 2: doesn't mean I've been to twenty six Super Bowls. I've 1753 01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:59,080 Speaker 2: actually only stayed for four. I've actually been in the 1754 01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:03,000 Speaker 2: stadium for super Bowls. The reason that I did that, 1755 01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:06,280 Speaker 2: and I'll be perfectly honest. So my normal routine for 1756 01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,280 Speaker 2: years and years and years covering super Bowls of VJ 1757 01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:12,040 Speaker 2: is they would send me and my partners to cover 1758 01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,599 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and we would really cover the Super Bowl. 1759 01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:16,720 Speaker 4: We were just sitting on radio row. 1760 01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,160 Speaker 2: I mean we would go out, we'd seek out the players, 1761 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,800 Speaker 2: do interviews, really give you a great build up for 1762 01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,400 Speaker 2: the games to be done, and then would fly back 1763 01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:29,880 Speaker 2: so that we could get paid to host a Super 1764 01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,120 Speaker 2: Bowl party for the station. There you go, Yeah, you're 1765 01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,400 Speaker 2: double dipping, so to basically do so that was the 1766 01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,920 Speaker 2: routine I had for many, many years. I will say 1767 01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,439 Speaker 2: this about the four Super Bowls that I actually was 1768 01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,840 Speaker 2: in attendance for. So if you've never been to a 1769 01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,320 Speaker 2: Super Bowl and you're like, wow, man, I love to 1770 01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,280 Speaker 2: be at a super Bowl. Of course, the prices are 1771 01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,920 Speaker 2: outrageous and I did not have to pay to go 1772 01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:52,880 Speaker 2: to Well, that's not true. The first Super Bowl that 1773 01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:59,000 Speaker 2: I attended VJ was Super Bowl nineteen Joe Montana versus 1774 01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,960 Speaker 2: Dan Marino turn out to be Dan Marino's only Super Bowl. 1775 01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,280 Speaker 2: It was my first year working for the Raiders, and 1776 01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:07,560 Speaker 2: I found out at the end of the year that 1777 01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:12,000 Speaker 2: as an NFL employee at that time, I could purchase 1778 01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:16,760 Speaker 2: two Super Bowl tickets at face value. The face value 1779 01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:20,200 Speaker 2: on these tickets. The game was at Stanford Stadium when 1780 01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:23,280 Speaker 2: they had bleacher seats. Okay, I mean they were just 1781 01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,640 Speaker 2: trying to squeeze as many bodies into the game as 1782 01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,280 Speaker 2: they could, especially with the forty nine ers in the game. 1783 01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:32,400 Speaker 2: You can imagine Stanford Stadium. So the tickets were sixty 1784 01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,160 Speaker 2: dollars each. That was the face value on those tickets, 1785 01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:39,040 Speaker 2: sixty dollars each. So me and one of my buddies, 1786 01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,320 Speaker 2: I wasn't marry, I was just hanging out as twenty 1787 01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:45,920 Speaker 2: six years old. We drove drove from LA up to 1788 01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:48,960 Speaker 2: Stanford Stadium. I'd been up there actually several times for 1789 01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,479 Speaker 2: usil A football games over the years, and my lasting 1790 01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:53,559 Speaker 2: memory of that game. 1791 01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:54,799 Speaker 3: The game was a blowout. 1792 01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:58,479 Speaker 2: Forty nine Ers annihilated them, got off to big early 1793 01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,479 Speaker 2: lead and never let up. Roger Craig, by the way 1794 01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,280 Speaker 2: in that game three touchdowns. One of the reasons he 1795 01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,160 Speaker 2: should be in the Hall of Fame, absolutely, and no 1796 01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,439 Speaker 2: one could have dreamt that that would be Marino's one 1797 01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,160 Speaker 2: and only visit. It was the second hear in the league, 1798 01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,320 Speaker 2: had broken all the records that year that he would 1799 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,280 Speaker 2: never get back to the Super Bowl. But my lasting 1800 01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,640 Speaker 2: memory of that game had nothing to do with the 1801 01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,880 Speaker 2: game itself. It was halftime and my buddy and I 1802 01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:24,680 Speaker 2: were going to go to the long concession lines to 1803 01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:26,960 Speaker 2: get a beer and you know, some food and everything else. 1804 01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:32,040 Speaker 2: And there was the line for the ladies room at 1805 01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:41,559 Speaker 2: Stanford Stadium, and this line stretched half the stadium. Now, 1806 01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:45,759 Speaker 2: they were ill equipped to handle that many people, especially 1807 01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,160 Speaker 2: ladies coming to the actual game. 1808 01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,720 Speaker 3: Sounds like it so along. 1809 01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,599 Speaker 2: The side of the stadium that they were all standing 1810 01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:58,920 Speaker 2: were a bunch of shrubs, you know, like foliage, and 1811 01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:05,160 Speaker 2: I witnessed at least half a dozen women relieving themselves 1812 01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,759 Speaker 2: in the bushes because they couldn't stand in line any longer. 1813 01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,479 Speaker 2: At least half a dozen, probably more. I just stopped 1814 01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,479 Speaker 2: looking after a while. That was my lasting memory of that, 1815 01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,599 Speaker 2: my first Super Bowl game that I actually attended. Here's 1816 01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:22,000 Speaker 2: what I would say about attending a Super Bowl game. 1817 01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:27,880 Speaker 2: I feel like those are four games I missed because 1818 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,360 Speaker 2: to me, watching the Super Bowl is the entire experience. 1819 01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,680 Speaker 2: You talk about the commercials, you talk about the commentary, 1820 01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,360 Speaker 2: you talk about all the things that come along to 1821 01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,760 Speaker 2: as we sit down and usually watch Super Bowls that 1822 01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:41,320 Speaker 2: are missing. 1823 01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,600 Speaker 4: When you go to a super Bowl, it is like 1824 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,360 Speaker 4: going to a game. 1825 01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,120 Speaker 2: And in the case of the games that I went to, 1826 01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,719 Speaker 2: I really didn't have much of a rooting interest except 1827 01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:53,240 Speaker 2: the last one because I was working for the Charger station. 1828 01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:55,800 Speaker 2: Chargers got blown out by the forty nine ers, and 1829 01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,160 Speaker 2: you know, I had a rooting interest in that game. 1830 01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,840 Speaker 4: But outside of that, I'm just saying observer. So I 1831 01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:02,240 Speaker 4: feel like I missed the game. 1832 01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,479 Speaker 2: So I ask you, I mean, is is that something 1833 01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,160 Speaker 2: that you I mean, if the Miami Dolphins are in 1834 01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:13,080 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and you are going to pay huge 1835 01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:14,400 Speaker 2: money to be at that game. 1836 01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,240 Speaker 3: Is that worth it to you to say I was 1837 01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:22,360 Speaker 3: at that game? What capacity am I there? You're as 1838 01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,560 Speaker 3: a fan? No, I'm not talking about it as a 1839 01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:26,040 Speaker 3: working night. 1840 01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,080 Speaker 5: No, no, No, I totally want to go as a 1841 01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,240 Speaker 5: working guy because I want access. If I'm a fan, 1842 01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,280 Speaker 5: I got to walk in. But you can't root as 1843 01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,479 Speaker 5: a media member. You can't be sitting here cheering in 1844 01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:36,120 Speaker 5: the press box. 1845 01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,760 Speaker 3: Her. Yeah, I've heard about that was super rule before. Well, 1846 01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:40,799 Speaker 3: I know, and that's why I don't like press boxes. 1847 01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,160 Speaker 2: I've heard about it from when I going back to 1848 01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,920 Speaker 2: when I was Sports center at UCLA. First time I 1849 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,639 Speaker 2: ever covered a game at UCLA, I was a nineteen 1850 01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,360 Speaker 2: year old sophomore, right, and I'm in the press box 1851 01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,120 Speaker 2: at the at the Colisee and back in the day 1852 01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,519 Speaker 2: and during the game, I didn't know the protocol and 1853 01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,160 Speaker 2: one of the UCLA running backs breaks into the open 1854 01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:03,360 Speaker 2: I jump up, go jail go to jail out. And 1855 01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:06,200 Speaker 2: then I looked over and the senior guys on the 1856 01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:08,519 Speaker 2: daily brol and look at me, and I'm like, sit 1857 01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:10,479 Speaker 2: the f down. 1858 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,880 Speaker 3: I'm like I can't root in the press box. Why 1859 01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,679 Speaker 3: do I want to be up here? I know I've 1860 01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:17,519 Speaker 3: heard about that rule. 1861 01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:21,639 Speaker 5: I've covered the Dolphins, I've covered my Pistons, I've covered 1862 01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,000 Speaker 5: my tar Hills, I've covered my my Rangers. I've covered 1863 01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,559 Speaker 5: all you jumped up and down screaming. I don't jump 1864 01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,200 Speaker 5: up and down screaming hall like a fan. But I 1865 01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,640 Speaker 5: don't sit there like some smug with my hands on 1866 01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:34,200 Speaker 5: my lap under the table, like fist pumping at the table. 1867 01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,599 Speaker 5: I have a way of kind of saying or cheering 1868 01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:39,960 Speaker 5: or just everybody, but everyone there. 1869 01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:43,519 Speaker 2: Seriously, if you went to a Dolphins Super Bowl and 1870 01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,960 Speaker 2: they're winning, like winning this game, and you have to 1871 01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:50,040 Speaker 2: sit there pretty much behave in the wouldn't you rather 1872 01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,400 Speaker 2: be with a crowd and just whooping it up out 1873 01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:52,920 Speaker 2: of your mind. 1874 01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,560 Speaker 5: I've done that before, covering the game, covering one of 1875 01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,120 Speaker 5: my I'm not gonna say the game, I've covered one 1876 01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:57,679 Speaker 5: of my teams. 1877 01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:00,600 Speaker 3: I've left the press box at half. Okay, there you 1878 01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:02,000 Speaker 3: go and went and found like an. 1879 01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:06,080 Speaker 5: Mpcsolutely stand on the concourse where the security sees you 1880 01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:07,760 Speaker 5: to see you have your credential on. They'll let you 1881 01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,880 Speaker 5: lay Dodger games. Right the yellow benches, those are great 1882 01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:12,400 Speaker 5: places to go sit. If you don't get a seat 1883 01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,400 Speaker 5: upstairs in the press box, just go find one of 1884 01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,120 Speaker 5: the yellow metal benches and on the middle concourse, right 1885 01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,880 Speaker 5: behind home plate. No one's sitting there, you mean, then 1886 01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:22,640 Speaker 5: you can sit there and kind of you know, just 1887 01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,280 Speaker 5: not yelling screen. But you don't have to play the 1888 01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:26,479 Speaker 5: silence all right. 1889 01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,360 Speaker 2: In my course of my four decades in this business, 1890 01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:33,840 Speaker 2: I have never ever called myself or considered myself a 1891 01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:34,799 Speaker 2: sports journalist. 1892 01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:36,200 Speaker 3: I am a fan in front of. 1893 01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,760 Speaker 2: A mic, right, that is what I am. Right, I'm 1894 01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:41,720 Speaker 2: a fan on you know, on television. People, every time 1895 01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:44,280 Speaker 2: I reference UCLA, I always say my br runs. That's 1896 01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:45,280 Speaker 2: just every single. 1897 01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,439 Speaker 3: Night you're supposed to that is my team. 1898 01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:50,639 Speaker 5: Every time I see an NFL play, do you guys 1899 01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,000 Speaker 5: hear me sound on the red Michigan Like I throw 1900 01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:53,519 Speaker 5: it out there? 1901 01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:55,760 Speaker 4: Like what do I tell you all the time? I 1902 01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:57,320 Speaker 4: love your loyalty. 1903 01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:02,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna you know where I have to agree. 1904 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:03,640 Speaker 5: With it, But I mean you have but paying an 1905 01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:08,479 Speaker 5: observerant price for a ticket for paying no, I'm not 1906 01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,519 Speaker 5: if I can't know. I want to be there as 1907 01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:12,720 Speaker 5: an employee. That way, I can get down to the 1908 01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,800 Speaker 5: field pre game. Yeah, I got postgame for interviews. I 1909 01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:17,519 Speaker 5: can walk in the back of the tunnels. I can 1910 01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:19,600 Speaker 5: go up to any player. I can walk on the 1911 01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,759 Speaker 5: field and while they're doing their trophy celebration and stand, 1912 01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,160 Speaker 5: you know, maybe twenty thirty yards away whatever, but I 1913 01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,200 Speaker 5: can I can say, yeah, I was at the game. 1914 01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,040 Speaker 5: Oh you wants a fan, NW, dude, I covered the game. 1915 01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:31,840 Speaker 5: I much rather say I covered the Dolphins in the 1916 01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,080 Speaker 5: Super Bowls than say I went to the game. Going 1917 01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,240 Speaker 5: to the game, Yeah, I'm a regular fan. I'm just like, 1918 01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:38,879 Speaker 5: I'm just like everybody else here. No, No, I'm special 1919 01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:41,240 Speaker 5: today because I get to say, oh, no, dude, I 1920 01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,960 Speaker 5: was on the field when they raised the trophy. 1921 01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,519 Speaker 3: I was there. I was on I was in the 1922 01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:51,080 Speaker 3: locker room with them, dudes smelling the champagne. Bro was everywhere. 1923 01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,040 Speaker 3: My suit got stupid wet. 1924 01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:53,200 Speaker 11: Like. 1925 01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,880 Speaker 3: I much rather have that story than yeah, sat in 1926 01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,800 Speaker 3: the section two nineteen. They were good seats. It was cool. 1927 01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,360 Speaker 3: I paid thirty seven dollars for a hot dog. And 1928 01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:05,479 Speaker 3: I don't know. I still like to go to games. 1929 01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,800 Speaker 3: I like I like going to games, special games. 1930 01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:10,960 Speaker 5: So much to haven't been as a fan in so long, 1931 01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:14,480 Speaker 5: stee because I'm covering everything I think of, like strange, 1932 01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:16,600 Speaker 5: like it wasn't a Super Bowl, but it was. It 1933 01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:19,840 Speaker 5: was like that was that se Texas Rosebult game. 1934 01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:21,040 Speaker 3: So I was. 1935 01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,800 Speaker 2: I was covering the game, so I was, But I 1936 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:25,400 Speaker 2: was on the field at the end of the game. 1937 01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:27,920 Speaker 2: I was literally standing on the field as Vince Young 1938 01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,200 Speaker 2: ran in for the touchdown. I was standing literally on 1939 01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:35,639 Speaker 2: the Texas sideline. So Matthew McConaughey was there, Roger Clemens 1940 01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,800 Speaker 2: was there. I'm standing with all of these story guys 1941 01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,360 Speaker 2: and yeah, those And by the way, one of the 1942 01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:44,920 Speaker 2: things that thing I remember about that game was long 1943 01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:46,960 Speaker 2: after the game because I had obviously been down in 1944 01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:48,240 Speaker 2: the locker room and everything else. 1945 01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:50,439 Speaker 4: I mean, SC's thirty four game winning streak was over. 1946 01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:54,080 Speaker 3: But to get back, I had to walk back into 1947 01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:55,360 Speaker 3: the stadium. 1948 01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:59,160 Speaker 2: And it was empty except for I saw one loan 1949 01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,519 Speaker 2: figure all all the way at the other end zone. 1950 01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:02,800 Speaker 3: Some guy it was. 1951 01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:06,240 Speaker 4: He was in regular clothes and he was sort of 1952 01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:07,640 Speaker 4: picking up stuff off the. 1953 01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,559 Speaker 3: Grass and I'm walking so I'm walking toward this guy, 1954 01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,400 Speaker 3: and I'm like, what is this guy doing? He turns 1955 01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:16,439 Speaker 3: as Matthew McConaughey and else where you're gonna meet anything. 1956 01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:21,040 Speaker 2: I'm picking grass off of the field right as a 1957 01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:24,200 Speaker 2: souvenir of the greatest day of my life as a 1958 01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:27,240 Speaker 2: Texas football fan. I didn't know those are the kind 1959 01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,960 Speaker 2: of things. Yes, I did the second USC game this year. 1960 01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:33,360 Speaker 3: Do you know? I almost I do know when he's fainted. 1961 01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:36,800 Speaker 5: But you get a little lightheaded when you walk down 1962 01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,160 Speaker 5: from the press box down to the field and you 1963 01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:42,120 Speaker 5: realize this is a dirt track. Yes, I got all 1964 01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:44,800 Speaker 5: my car I got on my Carolina Blue Jordan ones, Like, 1965 01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,360 Speaker 5: oh my god, okay, no problem, and I get to 1966 01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,880 Speaker 5: walk up to the ramp. Yes, that they come run 1967 01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:55,800 Speaker 5: out of like that to me was way better than 1968 01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:59,559 Speaker 5: sitting in the stands being forced out by the security 1969 01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:01,360 Speaker 5: after the game is over, be made to leave the 1970 01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:04,160 Speaker 5: stadium and go home. I literally stayed there till like 1971 01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:07,880 Speaker 5: eleven thirty that night, just the soaka it. I sat 1972 01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:09,720 Speaker 5: there in one end zone and just looked up at 1973 01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,120 Speaker 5: the end zone that's got the steps with the torch going, 1974 01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,559 Speaker 5: and just stared at it, like because I would when 1975 01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:16,559 Speaker 5: am I ever going to be able to stand here? 1976 01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:18,719 Speaker 5: I can come to I could come to the stadium, 1977 01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:20,160 Speaker 5: but when am I ever going to be able to 1978 01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:23,080 Speaker 5: stand in the end zone. I'm standing where it says 1979 01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:26,600 Speaker 5: USC like I watched Gods score here earlier tonight and 1980 01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:28,760 Speaker 5: now I'm looking up at this And not only that, 1981 01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:30,040 Speaker 5: I don't care if we lost the game. 1982 01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:33,040 Speaker 3: I told you guys that the next day Michigan was here. Today. 1983 01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:35,640 Speaker 3: I was like, I covered that game. I wasn't at 1984 01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:38,400 Speaker 3: the game. I understand covered that game there. You know, 1985 01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:42,320 Speaker 3: I have obviously hundreds of them right where. Yeah, those 1986 01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:46,559 Speaker 3: moments like yeah, man, like I was actually there there. 1987 01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:49,400 Speaker 5: I was like, I talked to him after the game, like, oh, yeah, 1988 01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:50,519 Speaker 5: hit the game when the show you I talked to. 1989 01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:51,960 Speaker 3: Him in the back hallway after the game. Yeah. 1990 01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:55,639 Speaker 2: Well, and then what we share with everybody out there, 1991 01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:59,120 Speaker 2: wishing that, yeah, they would have that opportunity to stories. 1992 01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:02,479 Speaker 3: I wish I exactly, bro, And that's the one guy 1993 01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:03,880 Speaker 3: I missed out on. 1994 01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:04,160 Speaker 5: Man. 1995 01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:05,000 Speaker 3: I've seen him play live. 1996 01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:06,800 Speaker 5: I've been I've been in his hands, I've seen him 1997 01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,560 Speaker 5: score thirty eight, but I've never gotten a chance to 1998 01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:11,800 Speaker 5: stay in the press conference or in the room or 1999 01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:12,880 Speaker 5: just pass him in the back. 2000 01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,320 Speaker 2: I had the rare opportunity to literally have one on 2001 01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:17,760 Speaker 2: ones with him, many of them. I mean, I don't 2002 01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:19,880 Speaker 2: know what There's something about me because I was sort 2003 01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,439 Speaker 2: of like the was part of my shtick was to 2004 01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:26,120 Speaker 2: be the anti Kobe on the on the Lakers Station, 2005 01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,000 Speaker 2: even though you weren't go. I was working with Michael 2006 01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:31,960 Speaker 2: Thompson and Victor Brigg Jacobs who were kissing his ass 2007 01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:33,200 Speaker 2: twenty four to seven. 2008 01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:37,560 Speaker 3: And so I was ill Michael to the extreme, and 2009 01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:40,280 Speaker 3: I was the true story. 2010 01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:44,040 Speaker 2: The day after he scored eighty one, day after he 2011 01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:46,800 Speaker 2: scores eighty one, we come on our show where the 2012 01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:51,200 Speaker 2: Lakers Station. I opened the show and I said, well, 2013 01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:56,559 Speaker 2: another disappointing two assists night for ballhowk Bryant last night. 2014 01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:58,120 Speaker 3: Wow, that's how I opened the. 2015 01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:02,559 Speaker 5: Showah sleepck and Michael went absolutely bonkers. 2016 01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:03,200 Speaker 3: Should have. 2017 01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:06,320 Speaker 2: So that's how I opened the show. Another disappointing two 2018 01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:09,720 Speaker 2: assist night for Ballhog Bryant last night, and it was 2019 01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:10,400 Speaker 2: humored by it. 2020 01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:13,040 Speaker 3: And oh yeah, absolutely. He told me many ties to 2021 01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:14,960 Speaker 3: my face. Man, I love what he did. He didn't care, 2022 01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:17,720 Speaker 3: Oh he that's the way he loved it. 2023 01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:19,640 Speaker 2: And he would pick me out of the crowd like 2024 01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,200 Speaker 2: you know, he just he just he was Everyone else 2025 01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:24,160 Speaker 2: was always kissing his ass twenty four to seven. 2026 01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:27,080 Speaker 5: And you can actually say that you helped motivate Coleby, 2027 01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:28,920 Speaker 5: because I'm sure he took things like that. 2028 01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:32,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I know we're getting a little sidetracked, but this 2029 01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:35,920 Speaker 2: is too sorry. So the year that ultimately be the 2030 01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:39,639 Speaker 2: year where they acquired Palgasol and everything change right mid season. 2031 01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,360 Speaker 4: But at the start of that year he wanted out. 2032 01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:43,160 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, made it clear. 2033 01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:43,519 Speaker 1: I remember. 2034 01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:45,639 Speaker 2: In fact, I remember they wanted to do a deal 2035 01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:47,560 Speaker 2: or he wanted to go to the Bulls. That was 2036 01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:48,760 Speaker 2: sort of where he wanted to go. 2037 01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:51,160 Speaker 3: But he didn't. 2038 01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:53,320 Speaker 2: He didn't want them to give up Lluell Dang like 2039 01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:55,960 Speaker 2: he wanted to play with Lowell Dan. So they opened 2040 01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:58,639 Speaker 2: the season. The Lakers opened the season at home against 2041 01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:01,160 Speaker 2: I believe with the Rock against Rock, and I am 2042 01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:03,760 Speaker 2: in the locker room talking him just one on one. 2043 01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:08,120 Speaker 2: I have no idea that we're actually on camera because 2044 01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:11,640 Speaker 2: there's coverage of it and they're shooting Kobe. Obviously they 2045 01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:13,960 Speaker 2: don't know who I am, but they're shooting Kobe talking 2046 01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,240 Speaker 2: to this guy, and if they could hear my conversation 2047 01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:17,559 Speaker 2: because I said to him. 2048 01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,160 Speaker 3: It was just he would talk to me face to face. 2049 01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:23,360 Speaker 2: I said, you know, there is one person, there is 2050 01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:26,120 Speaker 2: one person that has all the answers to all your questions. 2051 01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:29,280 Speaker 4: And he's like, who is that? I go, It's the 2052 01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:32,160 Speaker 4: person that you look in the mirror at every single day. 2053 01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:36,160 Speaker 4: You know in your heart exactly what is the right 2054 01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:38,400 Speaker 4: thing here. So this is the conversation he and I 2055 01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:40,760 Speaker 4: were having. So when you would have those moments and 2056 01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,800 Speaker 4: he was he was super bright, he was super I 2057 01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:46,280 Speaker 4: loved him. I absolutely loved him, and I knew and 2058 01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:47,000 Speaker 4: he knew that. 2059 01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:51,040 Speaker 2: That's why he was so humored by you every time 2060 01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,160 Speaker 2: I would go sideways on him, you know. 2061 01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:57,240 Speaker 4: So anyway, that a side, Hi, I want to hear 2062 01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:58,719 Speaker 4: about your favorite super Bowls. 2063 01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:02,960 Speaker 2: I want everybody here in our team to share they're 2064 01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:08,800 Speaker 2: all time favorite super Bowl that they watched. Why was 2065 01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:10,240 Speaker 2: it your favorite super Bowl? 2066 01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:13,000 Speaker 4: We'll have that coming up. This is End Zone Radio. 2067 01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:17,360 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2068 01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:19,400 Speaker 3: Oh wait a second. 2069 01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:23,880 Speaker 4: You do understand that this song is part of my legend. 2070 01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:25,400 Speaker 3: There was a. 2071 01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:32,040 Speaker 2: Sponsor that I used to sing to this song for years. 2072 01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:34,559 Speaker 2: I can't say it because they're not a sponsor. Now, 2073 01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:40,240 Speaker 2: but wow brings back memories this every day? All right, 2074 01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:42,760 Speaker 2: once again, we're the Fox Sports Radio studios. 2075 01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,160 Speaker 3: But did you dance as well as Christopher Walkin? No? 2076 01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:48,120 Speaker 3: I did not, never, never, never, never, No rhythm in 2077 01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:51,240 Speaker 3: these feed all right, End Zone Radio, Harbin and Husky 2078 01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:51,519 Speaker 3: with you. 2079 01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:54,599 Speaker 4: All right, So I gave you guys a heads up. 2080 01:36:56,520 --> 01:37:00,240 Speaker 2: We're gonna start with Shane Chris Shanan today and we 2081 01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:03,400 Speaker 2: went to hear Monci as well. So I want to 2082 01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:08,160 Speaker 2: ask you all about your most memorable Super Bowl. It 2083 01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:11,840 Speaker 2: doesn't mean it was the best game or the worst game. 2084 01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:18,200 Speaker 2: I'm talking about your most memorable Super Bowl experience. When 2085 01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:21,280 Speaker 2: you think about a you know, a big game Sunday, 2086 01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:25,880 Speaker 2: what was the most memorable for you? Let's let's start 2087 01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:27,840 Speaker 2: with Shae because I think Shay is ready to roll 2088 01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:31,360 Speaker 2: on this one. Shaye, what was your most memorable Big 2089 01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:32,839 Speaker 2: Game Sunday? 2090 01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:33,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2091 01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:34,720 Speaker 7: I didn't have a lot of options to pick out 2092 01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:36,880 Speaker 7: of the hat, to be honest, so it was very 2093 01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:40,560 Speaker 7: easy for me to choose mine. Most Super Bowls have 2094 01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:42,840 Speaker 7: been pretty boring for me, but there was one time 2095 01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:45,640 Speaker 7: where it was still boring, but I did end up 2096 01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:49,360 Speaker 7: winning the boxes and that was when New England came 2097 01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:53,720 Speaker 7: back to beat the Falcons. Wow that yeah, and all 2098 01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:55,439 Speaker 7: the time, and I was very happy actually that the 2099 01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:58,240 Speaker 7: Falcons were up because I actually had money line on 2100 01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:00,479 Speaker 7: the Falcons. And then I didn't even know that my 2101 01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:03,240 Speaker 7: boxes won at the end of the game, and then 2102 01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:04,960 Speaker 7: I was very upset. And then in the end I 2103 01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:06,360 Speaker 7: had more money than I would have been on the 2104 01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:06,840 Speaker 7: money line. 2105 01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:08,560 Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, so you actually with 2106 01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:11,559 Speaker 2: the boxes won more money than if the Falcon said 2107 01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:12,320 Speaker 2: won the game out. 2108 01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,559 Speaker 7: Right the boxes, I made a thousand with the money line, 2109 01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:15,599 Speaker 7: I would have made like eight hundred. 2110 01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:18,479 Speaker 3: Good questions. Sorry, I'm really dumb at this is box 2111 01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:20,320 Speaker 3: the same thing as squares? Exactly? 2112 01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:23,759 Speaker 7: Okay, just just making sure exactly so if the listeners 2113 01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:25,680 Speaker 7: don't know what box or square is, it's a It's 2114 01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:27,400 Speaker 7: a game that you usually play on stright. 2115 01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:30,200 Speaker 2: So your most memorable Sunday is about winning more money 2116 01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,280 Speaker 2: than you actually anticipated with exactly. 2117 01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:35,120 Speaker 3: And it's pretty sad. But I haven't been in a 2118 01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:37,960 Speaker 3: Super Bowl yet. I like the honesty of that. 2119 01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:40,880 Speaker 10: That Super Bowl. I think I spent that in like 2120 01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:43,360 Speaker 10: a bowling alley. I got invited out to bowling because 2121 01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:44,679 Speaker 10: my friends were like oh, we're not going to watch 2122 01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:47,360 Speaker 10: the Patriots do this. And then I started hooting and 2123 01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:50,120 Speaker 10: hollering in the in the in the lounge, just because 2124 01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:51,360 Speaker 10: I'm like, you know what, I don't even care. 2125 01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:54,000 Speaker 3: It's the Patriots. They're coming back from this many points down. 2126 01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:55,080 Speaker 3: Get well. Oh yeah. 2127 01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:57,320 Speaker 2: This is still the most amazing thing about that game 2128 01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:01,000 Speaker 2: was they were down nineteen yep, and they kicked a 2129 01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:03,960 Speaker 2: field goal at the start of the fourth quarter. You're like, really, 2130 01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:07,559 Speaker 2: you're not gonna go for you're down nineteen, and then 2131 01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:09,559 Speaker 2: they're like, well that cut. That makes it a two 2132 01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:11,760 Speaker 2: score game. I got like, really, they're gonna get two 2133 01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:15,799 Speaker 2: touchdowns and to two point conversions. Of course, that's exactly 2134 01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:19,280 Speaker 2: what they did at the point, which was unbelievable, the unbelievable. 2135 01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:23,519 Speaker 2: All right, Chris, what is your most memorable big game Sunday? Yeah, 2136 01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:25,800 Speaker 2: this was like the last Super Bowl. I remember having 2137 01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:29,080 Speaker 2: like a big party four two and it was Super Bowl. 2138 01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:32,920 Speaker 2: Let me make sure my my Roman numerals are still good. 2139 01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:36,800 Speaker 10: Forty seven all right, what's the Yeah, that would be 2140 01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:38,800 Speaker 10: Ravens and forty nine ers right New. 2141 01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:41,080 Speaker 3: Orleans in the super Dome the blackout. 2142 01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,280 Speaker 10: Yes, I was going to say that sticks out of 2143 01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:45,960 Speaker 10: my memory tremendously because I spent a lot of time 2144 01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:49,839 Speaker 10: on Twitter yaking about you know, the the the the blackout. 2145 01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:52,000 Speaker 10: But that was also like, you know, Colin Kaepernick was 2146 01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:54,840 Speaker 10: in the super Bowl. That was Joe Flacco's super Bowl there, 2147 01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:58,680 Speaker 10: Beyonce did the halftime show. It was a it was 2148 01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:02,320 Speaker 10: just a tremendous all around experience. It felt new and 2149 01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:05,439 Speaker 10: refreshing because it was the Super Bowl without the uh, 2150 01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:08,840 Speaker 10: the Patriots. It was a you know, and the forty 2151 01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:11,120 Speaker 10: nine ers back in the mountaintop and the Ravens hadn't 2152 01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:13,320 Speaker 10: been there for a while. It was new, fresh, fun. 2153 01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:16,320 Speaker 10: The storylines were great and just the entire all the 2154 01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:18,519 Speaker 10: commer I barely remember the commercial at this point, but like, 2155 01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:20,479 Speaker 10: it was like a fun super Bowl. 2156 01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:23,080 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it was just amazing. Two brothers coaching 2157 01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,800 Speaker 3: a yeah, the horrible the Harry was I mean even 2158 01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:26,880 Speaker 3: one of the odds of that. 2159 01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:30,280 Speaker 2: It's just unbelievable, all right. I like that, I manci 2160 01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:33,559 Speaker 2: your most memorable Big Game Sunday. 2161 01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:35,479 Speaker 8: I feel like I had to. 2162 01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:37,880 Speaker 9: I was like, oh my gosh, the one that Chris 2163 01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,439 Speaker 9: just mentioned is memorable for me, not just because of 2164 01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:42,920 Speaker 9: Beyonce and because of the blackout. 2165 01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:45,400 Speaker 8: I was at a party. But that was the last 2166 01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:49,320 Speaker 8: time I had read meat. I had ribs. That was 2167 01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:51,439 Speaker 8: the last time I had read meat or any you 2168 01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:52,920 Speaker 8: know what I mean. Because I became a veget I 2169 01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:56,040 Speaker 8: started to do That's why, Like I just like like 2170 01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:58,640 Speaker 8: I just remember having like ribs and I that was 2171 01:40:58,720 --> 01:40:59,360 Speaker 8: like the last. 2172 01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,160 Speaker 2: Let's slow down, sew When you say ribs, ribs can 2173 01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:04,360 Speaker 2: be a lot of different things. 2174 01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:05,800 Speaker 3: Now were they pork ribs? 2175 01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:09,880 Speaker 4: Where they beef ribs where they lathered and lathered. 2176 01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:12,640 Speaker 9: And sauce and big, big and big like my like 2177 01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:15,479 Speaker 9: my one of my best one of my best friends, John, Hey, John, 2178 01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,280 Speaker 9: he made them like you know what I'm saying. And 2179 01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:20,720 Speaker 9: I was already like starting to like cut meat out 2180 01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:22,120 Speaker 9: and I was like little and he was like you 2181 01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:22,960 Speaker 9: have to try it. 2182 01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:24,120 Speaker 8: And I was like, this is going to be the 2183 01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:30,439 Speaker 8: last time that I have me How was it? I mean, coous, ridiculous, delicious. 2184 01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:32,840 Speaker 8: So I'll never forget that Super Bowl? 2185 01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:33,760 Speaker 3: I love that, all right. 2186 01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:36,479 Speaker 2: So those are memorable super Bowls there, all right, VJ. 2187 01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:39,920 Speaker 2: You got a lot of Super Bowl Sunday, a lot 2188 01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:43,320 Speaker 2: of big game Sundays. What is the most memorable big 2189 01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:44,400 Speaker 2: Game Sunday for you. 2190 01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:47,360 Speaker 5: The most memorable Big Game Sunday for me was the 2191 01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:51,960 Speaker 5: Redskins blowout of the Broncos because it gave Doug Williams 2192 01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:55,000 Speaker 5: his Super Bowl and became the first African American quarterback 2193 01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:58,560 Speaker 5: in the NFL. And I remember how proud my mother was, 2194 01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:00,519 Speaker 5: who served the United States Army, was a colonel in 2195 01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:03,479 Speaker 5: the Pentagon, and how teary eyed she had gotten in 2196 01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:05,280 Speaker 5: that game. And I didn't I didn't understand. I'm looking 2197 01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,640 Speaker 5: at her on the sofa, like, why is mom tearing up? 2198 01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:10,560 Speaker 5: Her and my step pops Glenn were very emotional about it. 2199 01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:13,400 Speaker 5: They're very very pro black as far as black quarterbacks, 2200 01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:16,800 Speaker 5: and at that point I I kind of got the 2201 01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:19,160 Speaker 5: gist of what was going on and what was happening, 2202 01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:21,240 Speaker 5: because to me, it was just, hey, Jay Traders hurt, 2203 01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:23,080 Speaker 5: They're gonna played his quarterback, and as a kid, you 2204 01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:24,640 Speaker 5: just don't know any better. I believe I might've been 2205 01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:27,519 Speaker 5: in a fourth or fifth grade in that game too. 2206 01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:29,720 Speaker 5: But I also just remember the Broncos scored on the 2207 01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:32,880 Speaker 5: first play. Again, Yeah they did, Ricky, They're ricking until 2208 01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:36,880 Speaker 5: they play action to Sammy's Sammy sewell play action to him, 2209 01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:40,160 Speaker 5: and John Elway just cuts it loose and hits Ricking 2210 01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:42,519 Speaker 5: until they score. And you're like, oh man, here we go. 2211 01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:46,519 Speaker 5: And Sammy Winder or she it's either sul or Winder. 2212 01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:49,479 Speaker 5: They were They're both on that team though, Sammy Sueller 2213 01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:52,000 Speaker 5: or or Sammy Winder the running backs on our on 2214 01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:54,160 Speaker 5: that team. But then they get a field goals tend 2215 01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:56,240 Speaker 5: to nothing at then in the first quarter, and then 2216 01:42:56,280 --> 01:43:00,320 Speaker 5: the Redskins go and score thirty five points in one 2217 01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:03,120 Speaker 5: second quarter alone, four touchdowns. 2218 01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:07,599 Speaker 3: Ricky Ricky Ricky Irvis. I believe it was Are No, no, no, no, no, Notricare. 2219 01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:11,320 Speaker 5: Ricare was Ricky Non catches for the one ninety three 2220 01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:14,479 Speaker 5: two touchdowns, Ricky because they had That was the posse. 2221 01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:18,519 Speaker 5: That was Art Monk, Gary Clark, Ricky Sanders, Ricky Sanders 2222 01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:19,920 Speaker 5: is Ricky Sanders. 2223 01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:21,400 Speaker 3: That was the posse. That was the name of that 2224 01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:23,200 Speaker 3: receiving corps. They were. They were. 2225 01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:26,280 Speaker 5: They were the three the three court set receivers before 2226 01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:28,519 Speaker 5: there was ever really a three court set receivers. 2227 01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:30,960 Speaker 2: You do still know that in that game, with all 2228 01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:34,639 Speaker 2: the attention to Doug Williams, the all times single game 2229 01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:37,240 Speaker 2: Super Bowl record for rushing yards in the game was 2230 01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:39,479 Speaker 2: set and it's still the record. Two hundred four yards 2231 01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:41,200 Speaker 2: rushing by Timmy Smith. 2232 01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:44,439 Speaker 3: Timmy Smith, Timmy Smith a completely a non amatical. 2233 01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:47,840 Speaker 2: He was a rookie that year and he gained two 2234 01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:50,400 Speaker 2: hundred four yards rushing in that game, which is still 2235 01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:53,800 Speaker 2: to this day the single game rushing record for the 2236 01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:58,680 Speaker 2: Super Bowl and I will never be broken out two four. 2237 01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:00,840 Speaker 3: And then, like I said, Sanders nine catches for one 2238 01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:03,160 Speaker 3: ninety three, two touchdown. It's crazy. Doug Walliams throws four 2239 01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:04,840 Speaker 3: touchdowns nine. 2240 01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:07,920 Speaker 5: You mentioned that, but that game, that yeah game, you 2241 01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:09,680 Speaker 5: were what you say, fourth grade, So I was like, 2242 01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:11,360 Speaker 5: I was probably enterprise elementary. 2243 01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:14,080 Speaker 2: So this is January of eighty games, January eighty eight, 2244 01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:17,200 Speaker 2: So there it is there. That game was in San 2245 01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:20,600 Speaker 2: Diego for Super Bowl played in San Diego. I was 2246 01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:23,120 Speaker 2: working for the Raiders at that time, and my viewing 2247 01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:24,840 Speaker 2: party for that one I was with a bunch of 2248 01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:25,400 Speaker 2: my buddies. 2249 01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:27,680 Speaker 3: I was so wasted that day. 2250 01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:30,720 Speaker 2: I remember the deal touchdown right right off the bat, 2251 01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:34,200 Speaker 2: there is touchdown down, like I'm glad they're gonna win. 2252 01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:39,799 Speaker 4: During that second quarter, I am in a sea of guys. 2253 01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:44,760 Speaker 2: I mean, we're just obliterated, and I kept looking up 2254 01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:50,040 Speaker 2: and like another Washington touchdown, touchdown, and I was I 2255 01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:52,840 Speaker 2: was so out of it. It's like I thought I 2256 01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:56,280 Speaker 2: was like having like this deja vu experience that I was. 2257 01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:59,920 Speaker 3: Literally real reliving the same bat over again. That's funny. 2258 01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:03,720 Speaker 3: I was completely obliterated for that Super Bowl. But yeah, 2259 01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:07,960 Speaker 3: I'm umblella day for Washington that day. All right, well 2260 01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:12,400 Speaker 3: I'll share mine on the other side. But first, that's 2261 01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:15,759 Speaker 3: why I was trending right now from someone that So your. 2262 01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:17,880 Speaker 8: Last red was. 2263 01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:25,000 Speaker 9: Ri I mean, yeah, me, you ate with some rig Yeah, 2264 01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:27,960 Speaker 9: they were like falling off the you know what I'm saying. 2265 01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:33,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, no, no, like some sometimes like you know what 2266 01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:36,360 Speaker 8: I miss j Chicken Wings, like. 2267 01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:45,639 Speaker 9: Yeah, hot lemon, all of it the way like Chick 2268 01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:47,040 Speaker 9: fil a and Wingstop. 2269 01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:48,400 Speaker 8: Are you ever going to eat? 2270 01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:49,960 Speaker 3: You don't, I don't think. 2271 01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:52,000 Speaker 8: So like I don't. I don't. I got yeah, Like 2272 01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:52,920 Speaker 8: sometimes I'm like, oh. 2273 01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:53,760 Speaker 11: You know, but like I don't. 2274 01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:57,120 Speaker 4: He here's the thing about here's the thing about ribs. 2275 01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:57,519 Speaker 1: I am. 2276 01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:01,439 Speaker 2: I'm not a huge sweet skuy. So when you get 2277 01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:03,760 Speaker 2: a lot of that's not it's just too sweet for me. 2278 01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:07,680 Speaker 2: I love a really good dry rub yeah, you know, 2279 01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:10,120 Speaker 2: so I'm really getting the meat, but no sauce. 2280 01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:11,960 Speaker 1: No, no, not. 2281 01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:14,439 Speaker 4: I mean it's not that I want to have the sauce, 2282 01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:16,000 Speaker 4: but to me, it's too much. 2283 01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:17,320 Speaker 3: It's just too sweet. 2284 01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:20,960 Speaker 8: I agree, barbecue over powers a lot of flavor, and these. 2285 01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:23,720 Speaker 4: Rips the meat, the meat is that I want to 2286 01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:24,240 Speaker 4: taste the meat. 2287 01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:26,759 Speaker 9: It was like I tasted and everything, like I didn't slap, 2288 01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:28,639 Speaker 9: you know, I didn't feel like I was just having barbecue. 2289 01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:31,080 Speaker 5: You don't have to slab for it with sauce, but 2290 01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:33,720 Speaker 5: a dry robin and as you pull the rib off, 2291 01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:35,880 Speaker 5: it's okay to have a little cup of sauce and 2292 01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:36,800 Speaker 5: dig the rib. 2293 01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:38,880 Speaker 8: You have to pour it all over it. Yeah, but 2294 01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:41,360 Speaker 8: you got to Yeah, I can do that. 2295 01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:44,240 Speaker 3: Guys, really good. Understand what you mean. 2296 01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:47,920 Speaker 8: It's like, yeah, no barbecue straws, especially if the rib 2297 01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:49,920 Speaker 8: is like, you know, fall up and it was falling 2298 01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:51,400 Speaker 8: off the box. It was falling off. 2299 01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:53,280 Speaker 3: Control. 2300 01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:58,920 Speaker 8: What are we talking about? Food is still okay, guys. 2301 01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:03,040 Speaker 9: It seems just as though the coaching carousel has come 2302 01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:06,599 Speaker 9: to a close in the NFL. The Cardinals are planning 2303 01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:09,400 Speaker 9: to hire a rams offensive coordinator, Michae. 2304 01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:11,080 Speaker 8: Laflora, to be their next head coach. 2305 01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:15,559 Speaker 9: This was reported after we found out that Seahawks offensive 2306 01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:18,360 Speaker 9: coordinator Clint Qbiac intended to try to work out a 2307 01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:20,559 Speaker 9: deal to become the next head coach of the Las 2308 01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:24,040 Speaker 9: Vegas Raiders. None of that can become official until after 2309 01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:27,240 Speaker 9: the Super Bowl. Then, following these two moves, we heard 2310 01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:30,040 Speaker 9: that the forty nine Ers are hiring former Falcons head 2311 01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:31,880 Speaker 9: coach Rahie Morris to be their. 2312 01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:33,040 Speaker 8: New defensive courtinet. 2313 01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,519 Speaker 3: So just yes, that's fine, cool. 2314 01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:43,160 Speaker 8: Right away. Yeah, So that's that has happened. Yes. 2315 01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:46,599 Speaker 9: Other NFL news, ESPN reports that former Titans head coach 2316 01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:51,799 Speaker 9: Brian Callahan is a candidate for the Giants offensive coordinator position, 2317 01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:54,920 Speaker 9: and former Chargers offensive coordinator Greg Roman is going to 2318 01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:55,280 Speaker 9: have an. 2319 01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:59,000 Speaker 8: In person interview with the Jets for their offensive coordinator position. 2320 01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:02,599 Speaker 9: When it comes to the NBA, Clippers will be without 2321 01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:04,960 Speaker 9: James Harden tonight due to personal reasons as they take 2322 01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:07,559 Speaker 9: on the Suns in Phoenix for the heat. Norman Powell 2323 01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:10,479 Speaker 9: is questionable, also for personal reasons, as they take on 2324 01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:15,320 Speaker 9: the Bulls. In men's college hoops number nineteen Florida kind 2325 01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:18,200 Speaker 9: of crush number twenty three Alabama one hundred to seventy 2326 01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:21,559 Speaker 9: seven was the final score there. And when it comes 2327 01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:24,840 Speaker 9: to golf at the Farmer's Insurance Open, Justin Rose is 2328 01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:26,760 Speaker 9: still in the lead. He's been in the lead this 2329 01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:29,280 Speaker 9: entire tournament. It feels like right now he is twenty 2330 01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:32,760 Speaker 9: four under par over all. So I don't think that's 2331 01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:35,519 Speaker 9: going to change. When it comes to baseball, Juan Soto 2332 01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:37,439 Speaker 9: is going to play for the Dominican Republic in the 2333 01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:40,599 Speaker 9: twenty twenty six World Baseball Classic. And what is trending 2334 01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:44,479 Speaker 9: right now on Fox's MLB page is Livvy Dunn posted 2335 01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:46,760 Speaker 9: a video of her standing in like. 2336 01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:50,080 Speaker 8: A batting page with the batting helmet as her boyfriend 2337 01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:54,080 Speaker 8: Paul Skeen's pitches and U, she's in there, she's taking it. 2338 01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:57,599 Speaker 9: She's not swinging, but she's definitely standing in the batter's box. 2339 01:48:57,760 --> 01:48:59,160 Speaker 3: Did he throw her some high heat? 2340 01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:03,880 Speaker 8: Throw so high the backer off the plate? She's so 2341 01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:06,240 Speaker 8: not She's like in the batter's box, but like far, 2342 01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:07,880 Speaker 8: she's just standing. 2343 01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:09,519 Speaker 5: There like her want to make me do the damn dishes? 2344 01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:11,760 Speaker 5: At eleven o'clock last night, how about this one on 2345 01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:12,160 Speaker 5: one up? 2346 01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:18,639 Speaker 8: So that is the ultimate trust, right, ultimate moment of trust? 2347 01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:22,479 Speaker 8: I was gonna say, yeah, back to you guys, all. 2348 01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:28,320 Speaker 2: Right, Belia, Hey, I have a question for you. I 2349 01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:30,240 Speaker 2: have a question here as we're in the Fox Sports 2350 01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:32,760 Speaker 2: radio studios. Have you ever wiped with a piece of 2351 01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:33,679 Speaker 2: dry toilet paper? 2352 01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:37,720 Speaker 3: Wondered? Is this as good as it's going to get? 2353 01:49:39,320 --> 01:49:42,200 Speaker 3: You've done this many times? But I got good news. 2354 01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:47,040 Speaker 2: It's not no switch to the life changing Wet extra 2355 01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:52,400 Speaker 2: large flushable Dude Wipes because Wetter just cleans better. Available 2356 01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:56,880 Speaker 2: at Amazon, a major retailers nationwide. Dude Wipes best clean 2357 01:49:57,400 --> 01:49:58,440 Speaker 2: pants down. 2358 01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:02,560 Speaker 3: Your best super bowls. So I got a few honors. 2359 01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:05,000 Speaker 3: I let you give you give yours. 2360 01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:09,080 Speaker 2: And theres plenty of honorable mentions, but mine in retrospect. 2361 01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:12,439 Speaker 2: And again, I have watched or attended every single Super 2362 01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:13,680 Speaker 2: Bowl since super Bowl two. 2363 01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:15,800 Speaker 3: This is super Bowl sixty so. 2364 01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:19,000 Speaker 2: Seeing them all, I mean, as a kid, I watched 2365 01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:21,280 Speaker 2: Joe Namath that the greatest upset. 2366 01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:23,920 Speaker 5: I can't over explain, Steve, what did you just say? 2367 01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:27,080 Speaker 5: But I've watched every single Super Bowl since. 2368 01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:29,639 Speaker 7: He is that's crazy, dude. 2369 01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:32,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was in super Bowl two. I 2370 01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:35,240 Speaker 3: was in fourth grade and super Bowl two. Yeah, he's 2371 01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:37,680 Speaker 3: like eighty what do you mind. God, I'm not that old. 2372 01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:39,679 Speaker 3: I'm getting up there anyway. 2373 01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:44,360 Speaker 2: So, but my most memorable was Super Bowl eighteen, the 2374 01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:46,519 Speaker 2: first one that you said you watched, which was the 2375 01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:51,160 Speaker 2: Raiders annihilating the Redskins in Super Bowl eighteen. And the 2376 01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:54,080 Speaker 2: reason that was so memorable is when I was a 2377 01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:57,080 Speaker 2: kid growing up in the Los Angeles area, I was 2378 01:50:57,120 --> 01:51:01,080 Speaker 2: a diehard La Ram fan, Roman Gabriel fearsome force in 2379 01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:06,240 Speaker 2: the seventies, Disappointment after disappointment, disappointment, and then they moved 2380 01:51:06,280 --> 01:51:09,479 Speaker 2: to Orange County. Now I understand this. You're like, well, 2381 01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:11,720 Speaker 2: there's still the Los Angeles Rams, and I'm like, no, 2382 01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:14,360 Speaker 2: they're not. They might as well have moved to Buffalo. 2383 01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:18,320 Speaker 2: In my opinion, they were gone history. Rams are gone. 2384 01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:21,800 Speaker 2: In fact, for a couple of years, I actually hung 2385 01:51:21,880 --> 01:51:24,240 Speaker 2: onto the New York Jets as my team. Why the 2386 01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:27,639 Speaker 2: New York Jets because Freeman McNeil was their star running 2387 01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:29,000 Speaker 2: back and I knew Freeman from our. 2388 01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:31,439 Speaker 4: Days together at UCLA. Sorry the game a Jets fan. 2389 01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:35,040 Speaker 2: The one team that I consistently hated over the years 2390 01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:37,720 Speaker 2: was the Raiders. I had always hated the Raiders when 2391 01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:39,400 Speaker 2: they had their early rivalry with the Chiefs. 2392 01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:40,320 Speaker 3: I was a Chiefs fan. 2393 01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:45,559 Speaker 2: I hated the Raiders, hated them. So now I'm watching 2394 01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:47,800 Speaker 2: this game the Raiders have moved to LA. It's like 2395 01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:50,639 Speaker 2: my worst nightmare. Like the Raiders are in LA now, 2396 01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:54,720 Speaker 2: no sorry, not rooting for you, boo boo boo boo. 2397 01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:57,360 Speaker 2: And their first year in LA they lose to the 2398 01:51:57,560 --> 01:51:58,800 Speaker 2: Jets in the playoffs. 2399 01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:00,559 Speaker 3: Was like one of my greatest days ever. 2400 01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:02,599 Speaker 1: Whoo yeah, how Raiders. 2401 01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:06,280 Speaker 2: So I'm watching this Super Bowl matchup and the Raiders 2402 01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:11,040 Speaker 2: are annihilating the Redskins, and I'm literally so miserable, i 2403 01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:13,920 Speaker 2: can't see straight, Like I'm just I'm with my buddies 2404 01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:16,080 Speaker 2: and they're like laughing at me because they know how 2405 01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:20,600 Speaker 2: much I hate the Raiders. Six months almost to the 2406 01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:24,360 Speaker 2: day of that game was my first day working for 2407 01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:28,799 Speaker 2: the Raiders. Ring Ring July twentieth, nineteen eighty four, almost 2408 01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:31,960 Speaker 2: exactly six months of the day that I watched that 2409 01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:38,120 Speaker 2: game was my first day working for the Los Angeles Raiders. 2410 01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:41,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, that would be my most memorable because if 2411 01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:46,040 Speaker 2: you had told me that day that six months from now, 2412 01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:49,360 Speaker 2: not a year, not ten years or ever, but six 2413 01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:52,160 Speaker 2: months from now, you will actually be working. 2414 01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:55,759 Speaker 3: For the Raiders. I would say, over my dead body, 2415 01:52:55,880 --> 01:52:56,880 Speaker 3: it will never happen. 2416 01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:58,960 Speaker 5: YEA God has a very word sense of humor. So 2417 01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:01,680 Speaker 5: you you sitting there against him? He said, okay, here 2418 01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:02,439 Speaker 5: hold my Bible. 2419 01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:02,840 Speaker 3: Watch this. 2420 01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:06,040 Speaker 2: I had interviewed with the Dodgers, I had interviewed with 2421 01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:08,080 Speaker 2: the Angels, I had interviewed with the Rams. I thought 2422 01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:09,639 Speaker 2: the Rams are going to hire me. The year before 2423 01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:12,439 Speaker 2: I was trying to get a job working for a team, 2424 01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:16,719 Speaker 2: and I ended up getting hired by the LA Raiders. 2425 01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:19,960 Speaker 2: So that would be my most memorable this first one 2426 01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:21,719 Speaker 2: I saw man the Marcus Allen run. 2427 01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:24,439 Speaker 4: Yep, Marcus well, you know. And Al Davis was never 2428 01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:25,200 Speaker 4: happy about that. 2429 01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:30,760 Speaker 3: It wasn't he fell like happy about nothing. After the game. 2430 01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:32,920 Speaker 2: He was upset because he's like he got most of 2431 01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:34,559 Speaker 2: his yards when the game was already over. 2432 01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:35,360 Speaker 3: He thought. 2433 01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:37,559 Speaker 2: Honestly, if you had asked Al Davis who you thought 2434 01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:39,479 Speaker 2: was the MVP of that Super Bowl, he would have 2435 01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:40,599 Speaker 2: told you Reggie Kinlaw. 2436 01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:42,479 Speaker 3: He was the nose tackle. He said. 2437 01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:46,960 Speaker 2: He manhandled their center Bostick and destroyed their entire you know, 2438 01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:50,040 Speaker 2: hogs offensive front. And that's why we won the game. 2439 01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:53,040 Speaker 5: And I could dig that football starts in the trenches. 2440 01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:55,120 Speaker 5: But when are you ever going to see a nose 2441 01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:56,679 Speaker 5: tackle when Super Bowl? 2442 01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:59,080 Speaker 2: And never well, especially when Marcus broke the record with 2443 01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:01,400 Speaker 2: one hundred and ninetye yard it's rushing, including one of 2444 01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:04,360 Speaker 2: the most, if not the most memorable single touchdown run 2445 01:54:04,439 --> 01:54:06,920 Speaker 2: in history of the Super Bowl. That incredible reversed your 2446 01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:08,960 Speaker 2: field seventy four yards. All right, so you got some 2447 01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:09,559 Speaker 2: honorable man. 2448 01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:11,960 Speaker 5: Yep, just to just too eighty five Bears gets the 2449 01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:13,720 Speaker 5: Patriots just because of what it stood for. 2450 01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:15,000 Speaker 3: It was the Super Bowl. 2451 01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:17,519 Speaker 2: See, that's when I would do you realize we should 2452 01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:18,599 Speaker 2: have been in that Super Bowl? 2453 01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:20,479 Speaker 3: I say we the LA Raiders. 2454 01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:23,080 Speaker 2: We got upset by New England at home on a 2455 01:54:23,320 --> 01:54:27,600 Speaker 2: fumbled kickoff return. That game happened, it would not have 2456 01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:29,479 Speaker 2: been forty six to ten. It would have been like 2457 01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:33,040 Speaker 2: fourteen to ten. It would have been all time bloodbath 2458 01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:35,720 Speaker 2: because the Raiders defense, howe long did its peak. 2459 01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:39,800 Speaker 3: A lot of the we that could that that would 2460 01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:41,240 Speaker 3: have been a brutal. 2461 01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:42,640 Speaker 5: Marino could have been in another super Bowl. They be 2462 01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:45,600 Speaker 5: the Dolphins in the post Sason, that's Dolphins gonna. I 2463 01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:48,600 Speaker 5: mean that team with Steve Grogrin. We would have kicked 2464 01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:52,160 Speaker 5: the Dolphins friar. That was one game just because of 2465 01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:53,880 Speaker 5: what the eighty five Bears stiff. And then another one 2466 01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:56,520 Speaker 5: for me was the Niners in Bengals, And that's because 2467 01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:59,120 Speaker 5: that was the first time I ever saw a game 2468 01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:01,120 Speaker 5: winning touchdown. 2469 01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:02,840 Speaker 3: Pass on a big level. That was that was my 2470 01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:04,240 Speaker 3: moment to wow. 2471 01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:07,760 Speaker 5: Like watching a quarterback and rive a team drive down 2472 01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:10,000 Speaker 5: the field and not just not a playoff game, but 2473 01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:14,280 Speaker 5: win the Super Bowl on a last second drive. That 2474 01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:16,120 Speaker 5: was my introduction to that is during. 2475 01:55:15,920 --> 01:55:18,320 Speaker 2: That drive, Randy Cross, you know, great guard the U 2476 01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:20,480 Speaker 2: c L a guy on that team. He shared the 2477 01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:25,400 Speaker 2: story that while they're on that drive, John Montana breaks 2478 01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:27,280 Speaker 2: from the huddle. They're all, you know, sitting like you know, 2479 01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:28,240 Speaker 2: he goes, hey. 2480 01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:31,360 Speaker 3: Did John Candy? John Candy? He said he doesn't. He 2481 01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:35,520 Speaker 3: did that to calm everybody down, because everybody was was 2482 01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:37,360 Speaker 3: at the game over there. John Candy's over here, I 2483 01:55:37,480 --> 01:55:40,200 Speaker 3: just watched What what are you talking about? All right? 2484 01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:41,320 Speaker 3: Coming up on the other side. 2485 01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:44,600 Speaker 2: We shared some great other big game memories here on 2486 01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:46,040 Speaker 2: end Zone Radio. 2487 01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:50,800 Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2488 01:55:52,160 --> 01:55:56,160 Speaker 2: Harman and Husky and Zone Radio. We're in the Fox 2489 01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:59,200 Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. With the iHeart Radio app, you can 2490 01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:02,320 Speaker 2: stream us wherever you happen to be. Catch us in 2491 01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:04,640 Speaker 2: all of our Fox Sports Radio shows live twenty four 2492 01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:07,800 Speaker 2: to seven and the new and approved iHeartRadio app. Just 2493 01:56:07,880 --> 01:56:10,520 Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio on the app to stream us 2494 01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:13,120 Speaker 2: live all day, every day, and be sure to select 2495 01:56:13,160 --> 01:56:15,600 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio is one of your presets in the 2496 01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:17,080 Speaker 2: iHeart app, so. 2497 01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:21,600 Speaker 3: It'll always pop up at the top of your screen. 2498 01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:28,600 Speaker 2: All Right, So I'm asking you guys this, Let's face it, 2499 01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:32,640 Speaker 2: this is not our typical marquee matchup. 2500 01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:35,800 Speaker 3: For the big game you think. 2501 01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:40,160 Speaker 2: I mean, this is Sam Donald versus Drake Me. Okay, 2502 01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:45,160 Speaker 2: Sam Darnald versus Drake May. Almost every big game that 2503 01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:47,440 Speaker 2: we've seen over the years has had at least one 2504 01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:55,880 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame level quarterback, almost all of them. I mean, 2505 01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:58,560 Speaker 2: maybe Drake May will be there someday, but he certainly 2506 01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:01,080 Speaker 2: hasn't played like one in the playoff. Drake May has 2507 01:57:01,120 --> 01:57:07,400 Speaker 2: been really ordinary in the postseason, very ordinary. Sam Darnald 2508 01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:09,440 Speaker 2: is coming off one of the best games I've seen 2509 01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:12,480 Speaker 2: a quarterback have in a conference championship game. But all 2510 01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:15,240 Speaker 2: season long, we're sort of like, what Sam Donald is 2511 01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:19,200 Speaker 2: actually going to show up. So I'm not going to pretend, 2512 01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:21,880 Speaker 2: because in the next hour I do want to start 2513 01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:23,720 Speaker 2: breaking down this game a little bit, you know, some 2514 01:57:23,840 --> 01:57:25,640 Speaker 2: of the things we might be able to sort of 2515 01:57:25,680 --> 01:57:28,400 Speaker 2: pick out that could be key components of who ends 2516 01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:30,120 Speaker 2: up winning this Super Bowl. And by the way, I 2517 01:57:30,160 --> 01:57:32,800 Speaker 2: don't think it's any FATA company. The odds obviously have 2518 01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:35,080 Speaker 2: grown a little bit. I think they opened to three 2519 01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:37,320 Speaker 2: and a half. I think Seattle's five now, which doesn't 2520 01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:39,880 Speaker 2: surprise me. I mean, you know, if you look at 2521 01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:42,160 Speaker 2: the NFC as a whole, I think most people woul 2522 01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:44,800 Speaker 2: agree the NFC is a better conference than the AFC, 2523 01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:48,040 Speaker 2: and they were the number one seed in the NFC, 2524 01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:51,280 Speaker 2: so you know, I can understand that. But I'm not 2525 01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:55,320 Speaker 2: buying into like this is somehow a slam dunk for 2526 01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:59,040 Speaker 2: the Seahawks because of the Sam Darnald factor. 2527 01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:03,280 Speaker 5: I heard Brian know talk about this earlier. I thought 2528 01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:05,480 Speaker 5: it was a pretty interesting question. I'll throw it to you. 2529 01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:11,720 Speaker 2: He asked this question, what would you be more surprised 2530 01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:21,680 Speaker 2: at Drake may having an incredibly great game or Sam 2531 01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:27,240 Speaker 2: Donald having an incredibly bad game? What would surprise you 2532 01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:31,520 Speaker 2: more in this matchup? Either that Drake May would have 2533 01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:35,440 Speaker 2: an incredibly great game, or that Sam Donald would have 2534 01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:37,240 Speaker 2: an incredibly bad game. 2535 01:58:37,480 --> 01:58:41,280 Speaker 3: Neither that's a weird question. It is a weird question. 2536 01:58:41,320 --> 01:58:43,600 Speaker 5: Surprise, No ask that because it's normally his questions make 2537 01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:45,400 Speaker 5: like a whole lot of sense. He's you know, he's 2538 01:58:45,440 --> 01:58:46,080 Speaker 5: good at what he does. 2539 01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:48,720 Speaker 2: What do you think is more likely to happen? Then 2540 01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:52,080 Speaker 2: forget what makes you worried. What would be a more 2541 01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:55,920 Speaker 2: likely scenario than Darnald will have a terrible game, or 2542 01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:58,240 Speaker 2: that Drake May will have a phenomenal game. 2543 01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:03,160 Speaker 5: That Darnold will have a terrible game, because that's what 2544 01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:05,840 Speaker 5: we're all waiting on. I don't know if we're waiting 2545 01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:09,280 Speaker 5: on Drake May to have this phenomenal game. But also 2546 01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:11,920 Speaker 5: we also have three weeks of evidence that Drake May 2547 01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:14,680 Speaker 5: has been very bad this playoffs. He's been He's made 2548 01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:17,400 Speaker 5: two or three throws. He's made two or three Sean 2549 01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:21,800 Speaker 5: Payton threw that game away last week. We sat here, screamed, 2550 01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:23,520 Speaker 5: and I'll go home, and I watched the game. You know, 2551 01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:25,520 Speaker 5: I rewatched games that I want to hear the commentator, 2552 01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:28,480 Speaker 5: they both were saying the same thing. Why wouldn't you 2553 01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:30,720 Speaker 5: take the three What are you doing, and then this 2554 01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:33,440 Speaker 5: is the play call, and then you fire the OC 2555 01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:35,240 Speaker 5: and all that other stuff that never got going on. 2556 01:59:35,480 --> 01:59:36,680 Speaker 5: That's another story for another day. 2557 01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:39,880 Speaker 2: But it was especially by the way that game we 2558 01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:42,160 Speaker 2: were sitting here, I was giving you the weather report 2559 01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:43,120 Speaker 2: the entire game. 2560 01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:46,960 Speaker 3: The first half, and it was exactly what they said. 2561 01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:48,560 Speaker 3: The one time the weather report was right. 2562 01:59:48,640 --> 01:59:50,920 Speaker 2: I said, the second half, you're gonna start seeing some 2563 01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:53,640 Speaker 2: snow and by fourth quarter it's going to be a whiteout. 2564 01:59:54,160 --> 01:59:56,440 Speaker 2: And that's exactly what have the weather report was like. 2565 01:59:56,760 --> 01:59:59,080 Speaker 2: Apparently Sean Payton didn't read the weather report. 2566 01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:00,720 Speaker 5: I want to go as far as far as the 2567 02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:02,600 Speaker 5: Super Bowl, and we can carry it the next hour, 2568 02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:04,280 Speaker 5: we can carry it the next week. I don't think 2569 02:00:04,360 --> 02:00:07,960 Speaker 5: this matchup's great for the optics of the NFL. 2570 02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:09,200 Speaker 3: I just don't. 2571 02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:11,200 Speaker 5: I don't believe we don't. I don't believe we have 2572 02:00:11,320 --> 02:00:13,320 Speaker 5: the two best teams in the league at all. 2573 02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:14,120 Speaker 3: At all. 2574 02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:18,080 Speaker 2: You have a one severe In fact, the fact is 2575 02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:20,080 Speaker 2: is that New England actually had the same record. 2576 02:00:20,680 --> 02:00:22,640 Speaker 3: You and I both know and now and listen, guys, 2577 02:00:22,680 --> 02:00:23,520 Speaker 3: higsight is twenty twenty. 2578 02:00:23,680 --> 02:00:26,000 Speaker 5: We're not doing that though, because we have twenty weeks 2579 02:00:26,360 --> 02:00:28,520 Speaker 5: of what we've said on watch, you're gonna go back 2580 02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:30,640 Speaker 5: and check it. The Rams are the best team in football. 2581 02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:33,360 Speaker 5: I said it, all right, all right, if they they 2582 02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:36,640 Speaker 5: they're they're part return. It was clear that return cast 2583 02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:38,440 Speaker 5: them the game. Once it was clear the Chiefs and 2584 02:00:38,480 --> 02:00:41,000 Speaker 5: Eagles were not right than the Rams. The Rams are 2585 02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:43,400 Speaker 5: the best team in the NFL today right now. 2586 02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:45,920 Speaker 3: Their defense, right now, the Rams are the. 2587 02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:49,760 Speaker 5: Best team in the league. Their part returners simply gave 2588 02:00:49,880 --> 02:00:50,760 Speaker 5: the game away. 2589 02:00:50,600 --> 02:00:54,240 Speaker 2: But their defense didn't make any adjustments they made Sam Darnold. 2590 02:00:53,920 --> 02:00:55,000 Speaker 3: Who no, no, no, not. 2591 02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:58,520 Speaker 5: Their defense is Sean McVay, and we talked about his 2592 02:00:58,680 --> 02:01:00,440 Speaker 5: coaching and the special teams. 2593 02:01:00,480 --> 02:01:02,480 Speaker 3: I get it. It comes to bite you, guys who 2594 02:01:02,520 --> 02:01:04,280 Speaker 3: you really are down, you know, down the stretch. 2595 02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:06,560 Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna bring it, bring you the breakdown 2596 02:01:07,040 --> 02:01:10,320 Speaker 2: of the big game, number sixty. Break it all down 2597 02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:12,840 Speaker 2: for you, coming up here on End Zone Radio. 2598 02:01:14,720 --> 02:01:19,320 Speaker 11: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio one more week, 2599 02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:23,120 Speaker 11: one more week for the ultimate matchup to determine the 2600 02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:28,600 Speaker 11: National Football League champion of the twenty twenty five season. 2601 02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:31,320 Speaker 3: This is End Zone Radio, Harbin and Husky. 2602 02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:35,200 Speaker 2: We're on the Fox Sports Radio studios all right, we've 2603 02:01:35,240 --> 02:01:39,360 Speaker 2: been sharing memories of games past, You've been talking about 2604 02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:42,360 Speaker 2: all the coaching changes around the NFL. We even addressed 2605 02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:46,960 Speaker 2: the real story behind the Belichick snub by the Pro Football. 2606 02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:49,520 Speaker 3: Interest by you man. Seriously, I didn't that was a 2607 02:01:49,560 --> 02:01:50,720 Speaker 3: good breakdown, bro Well. 2608 02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:53,640 Speaker 2: I wanted to break down the technical aspect and then 2609 02:01:53,680 --> 02:01:55,880 Speaker 2: some of the other things, and then again the leaking 2610 02:01:56,080 --> 02:01:56,720 Speaker 2: of the store. 2611 02:01:56,840 --> 02:01:59,800 Speaker 5: Any shenaniganst to you, though, is there any any Shannani? 2612 02:02:00,160 --> 02:02:00,640 Speaker 3: There could be. 2613 02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:02,440 Speaker 2: There could be one other point here, and that is, 2614 02:02:02,840 --> 02:02:05,840 Speaker 2: we don't know yet. There will be one person out 2615 02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:08,120 Speaker 2: of that group at least that gets in. I'm talking 2616 02:02:08,160 --> 02:02:09,840 Speaker 2: about the well, we know it's not going to be 2617 02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:11,840 Speaker 2: the coach. It could be Bob Kraft. It could be 2618 02:02:12,280 --> 02:02:16,400 Speaker 2: one of the players, the three senior finalists, Ken Anderson, 2619 02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:18,240 Speaker 2: Roger greg Or Elsie Greenwood. 2620 02:02:18,720 --> 02:02:21,720 Speaker 3: But if it is Bob Kraft, that's crazy. 2621 02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:24,640 Speaker 2: If Bob Kraft is the one name it emerges, then 2622 02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:28,160 Speaker 2: the theory that Bob Craft's people. 2623 02:02:28,920 --> 02:02:31,680 Speaker 4: I wouldn't Bob Kraft has people to work for him. 2624 02:02:32,320 --> 02:02:38,280 Speaker 2: Doing politicking, saying, look, Bob's in his eighties, He's waited 2625 02:02:38,320 --> 02:02:42,120 Speaker 2: a long time for this honor and He's not about 2626 02:02:42,160 --> 02:02:46,040 Speaker 2: to share the stage with that jackass. I'm not going 2627 02:02:46,120 --> 02:02:48,760 Speaker 2: to share the stage with that jackass. No way, no how, 2628 02:02:48,920 --> 02:02:52,280 Speaker 2: no chance. I don't find it funny the idea that 2629 02:02:52,400 --> 02:02:54,120 Speaker 2: the two of us are going to be standing side 2630 02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:56,200 Speaker 2: by side with our gold jackets. 2631 02:02:56,360 --> 02:03:01,040 Speaker 3: That is not happening. It's him or me. That's how 2632 02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:03,400 Speaker 3: it should happen. Of course it should happen. But you know, 2633 02:03:03,520 --> 02:03:06,200 Speaker 3: Roger Craig, though I think Roger Craig, it could be. 2634 02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:09,120 Speaker 3: It could be one of the players. Again, it's not 2635 02:03:09,160 --> 02:03:12,320 Speaker 3: about eighty percent. We know whoever the top vote getter is. 2636 02:03:12,440 --> 02:03:14,640 Speaker 3: Even if it's less than eighty percent, we'll be in 2637 02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:17,320 Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. Right. Well, we've eliminated Belichick. Now 2638 02:03:17,360 --> 02:03:20,800 Speaker 3: it's either Craft, Greenwood, Roger Craig, or Ken Anderson. That's 2639 02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:22,440 Speaker 3: why I think one of those will be cold. 2640 02:03:22,640 --> 02:03:24,640 Speaker 5: I think because I think Craft would be more of 2641 02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:28,880 Speaker 5: I think if he gets in, I'm gonna I'm a 2642 02:03:29,000 --> 02:03:31,360 Speaker 5: side eye it as like, like you said, like some 2643 02:03:31,520 --> 02:03:33,879 Speaker 5: type of politics. I think there was a lot of politics, 2644 02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:35,920 Speaker 5: some type of if he gets in. If if he 2645 02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:39,200 Speaker 5: gets in, I'm gonna kind of side all that. Roger Craig, 2646 02:03:39,560 --> 02:03:42,720 Speaker 5: the first thousand thousand back in NFL history, still not 2647 02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:46,080 Speaker 5: in And think about this Super Bowl MVP three rings. Well, 2648 02:03:46,120 --> 02:03:48,400 Speaker 5: I look at you could make an argument for any 2649 02:03:48,440 --> 02:03:50,960 Speaker 5: one of those guys. I mean, Elsie Greenwood obviously, you know, 2650 02:03:51,160 --> 02:03:51,839 Speaker 5: with Steve. 2651 02:03:51,680 --> 02:03:53,880 Speaker 2: Curtain, I mean, but you know, I mean he was 2652 02:03:54,080 --> 02:03:56,160 Speaker 2: he was a dominant player in the mid seventies, by 2653 02:03:56,200 --> 02:03:59,240 Speaker 2: the way, By the way, you know, he easily could 2654 02:03:59,280 --> 02:04:01,640 Speaker 2: have been the MVP of one of those Super Bowls. 2655 02:04:01,680 --> 02:04:03,680 Speaker 2: I mean, he was so dominant in that Super Bowl game. 2656 02:04:03,960 --> 02:04:06,640 Speaker 2: But that aside, we'll see if it is Craft though, 2657 02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:10,200 Speaker 2: immediately he's going to be asked questions like are you 2658 02:04:10,440 --> 02:04:13,640 Speaker 2: uncomfortable that you're in? And Belichick's not in, and we'll 2659 02:04:13,640 --> 02:04:16,640 Speaker 2: see how he handles that if that's the case. All right, 2660 02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:21,120 Speaker 2: So as we get to break down this matchup between 2661 02:04:21,160 --> 02:04:24,840 Speaker 2: the Seahawks and the Patriots, here's one thing right out 2662 02:04:24,880 --> 02:04:28,920 Speaker 2: of the box that just stands out. We know that 2663 02:04:29,040 --> 02:04:32,080 Speaker 2: the Patriots had the weakest schedule in the league. In fact, 2664 02:04:32,800 --> 02:04:35,760 Speaker 2: not only the weakest schedule since the ninety nine Rams, 2665 02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:37,320 Speaker 2: who by the way, did go on to win the 2666 02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:42,280 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, they actually had the third easiest schedule of 2667 02:04:42,680 --> 02:04:50,000 Speaker 2: any team since nineteen seventy eight. Jeez, so since nineteen 2668 02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:57,640 Speaker 2: seventy eight, strength of schedule our third easiest since nineteen 2669 02:04:58,240 --> 02:05:03,200 Speaker 2: seventy eight. Now on the other side, the Seahawks had 2670 02:05:03,280 --> 02:05:06,840 Speaker 2: the seventh toughest strength of schedule in the league. 2671 02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:07,560 Speaker 3: Think about this. 2672 02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:11,000 Speaker 2: In the last month and the half, they beat the 2673 02:05:11,120 --> 02:05:13,800 Speaker 2: forty nine Ers and the Rams twice each. 2674 02:05:17,240 --> 02:05:18,920 Speaker 3: Okay, those are quality teams. 2675 02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:26,160 Speaker 2: So when you're looking at this matchup just based on numbers. 2676 02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:32,680 Speaker 2: In fact, I saw this breakdown of the Seahawks where 2677 02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:36,440 Speaker 2: they take an account strength to schedule everything about their season, 2678 02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:42,520 Speaker 2: and this one measure of the season that the Seahawks 2679 02:05:42,680 --> 02:05:48,520 Speaker 2: had ranks them as the sixth best team in the 2680 02:05:48,840 --> 02:05:52,960 Speaker 2: history of the NFL for a single season based on 2681 02:05:53,080 --> 02:05:56,040 Speaker 2: what they did, who they beat, all the dynamics that 2682 02:05:56,160 --> 02:05:58,760 Speaker 2: go into calculating the strength of I mean, the eighty 2683 02:05:58,840 --> 02:06:00,800 Speaker 2: five Bears are ahead of them. I think the ninety 2684 02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:04,240 Speaker 2: one Redskins are ahead of them. Obviously, the undefeated Patriots 2685 02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:06,200 Speaker 2: even though they lost the Super Bowl, ahead of them, 2686 02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:08,400 Speaker 2: the eighty nine to forty nine Ers that wiped out 2687 02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:09,520 Speaker 2: the Broncos fifty five. 2688 02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:11,200 Speaker 3: Ten, those are the only teams ahead of them. 2689 02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how dominant the Seahawks have been this year, 2690 02:06:15,400 --> 02:06:19,200 Speaker 2: fourteen to three, strength, the schedule, toughest division in the league. 2691 02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:24,040 Speaker 2: That's what they that's how they measure up. Okay, so 2692 02:06:24,200 --> 02:06:27,320 Speaker 2: that being said, this really should be a no contest game. 2693 02:06:28,360 --> 02:06:32,040 Speaker 2: But I again, I sit here right now saying I 2694 02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:32,680 Speaker 2: don't buy it. 2695 02:06:33,640 --> 02:06:36,680 Speaker 3: I just don't buy it. And what factor in what 2696 02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:37,920 Speaker 3: way I think that? 2697 02:06:38,400 --> 02:06:42,760 Speaker 2: I think a factor is the factor that won the 2698 02:06:42,920 --> 02:06:45,280 Speaker 2: Patriots their first Super Bowl. Let's let's go back to 2699 02:06:45,360 --> 02:06:48,440 Speaker 2: that game. Okay, I was there in New Orleans. The 2700 02:06:48,520 --> 02:06:51,040 Speaker 2: whole dynamic in New Orleans that year was weird because 2701 02:06:51,080 --> 02:06:54,360 Speaker 2: it was right after nine to eleven. Security in New 2702 02:06:54,480 --> 02:06:59,040 Speaker 2: Orleans was insane, and up until that time I was 2703 02:06:59,240 --> 02:07:02,160 Speaker 2: I hated to be doing my radio show at Radio Row. 2704 02:07:02,240 --> 02:07:04,480 Speaker 2: I actually had some connections at the time that allowed 2705 02:07:04,520 --> 02:07:07,480 Speaker 2: me to be in the FanFest near the autograph table 2706 02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:10,160 Speaker 2: where Hall of famers, So I was like shooting ducks 2707 02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:12,800 Speaker 2: in a barrel, right, But that year we were forced 2708 02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:16,280 Speaker 2: to move to the Radio Row, and one of the 2709 02:07:16,400 --> 02:07:19,400 Speaker 2: things we did each year leaning up to the Big 2710 02:07:19,480 --> 02:07:23,160 Speaker 2: Game was have Hank Stram on the show. So Hank Stram, 2711 02:07:23,320 --> 02:07:26,440 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame coach, legendary Chiefs coach, great guy, 2712 02:07:26,480 --> 02:07:28,520 Speaker 2: he was always fun to have on. But he did 2713 02:07:28,600 --> 02:07:31,080 Speaker 2: this annual thing with us where he would break down 2714 02:07:31,240 --> 02:07:33,800 Speaker 2: like seventeen different points that would indicate who's going to 2715 02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:36,600 Speaker 2: win the game. The Rams were two touchdown favorites. I mean, 2716 02:07:36,640 --> 02:07:39,800 Speaker 2: the Patrons had no chance. They got the luck play 2717 02:07:39,880 --> 02:07:43,840 Speaker 2: with a tuck play. I mean, Rams are going to 2718 02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:48,560 Speaker 2: blow them out. Okay, So Hank's breaking it down and 2719 02:07:48,600 --> 02:07:52,000 Speaker 2: we're like, all right, coach, what do he got? Well, 2720 02:07:52,120 --> 02:07:55,640 Speaker 2: you know, I put all the numbers in and guys, 2721 02:07:55,760 --> 02:07:57,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna call right now. 2722 02:07:57,880 --> 02:08:01,560 Speaker 3: New England's gonna win the game. And we almost fell 2723 02:08:01,600 --> 02:08:04,880 Speaker 3: out of our seat. Coach, what are you talking about? Oh, 2724 02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:07,960 Speaker 3: you must have gotten the numbers wrong. There's no way, 2725 02:08:08,960 --> 02:08:12,920 Speaker 3: there's no way New England's gonna win this this kid, 2726 02:08:13,120 --> 02:08:16,880 Speaker 3: Tom Brady, forget it. That's not going to happen. 2727 02:08:17,120 --> 02:08:20,360 Speaker 2: Thomas and I feel like, based on these numbers, I'm 2728 02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:22,840 Speaker 2: being told the same thing that there is no way 2729 02:08:23,440 --> 02:08:25,720 Speaker 2: New England is going to win this game. But guess 2730 02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:29,680 Speaker 2: what New England did win that game and their quarterback 2731 02:08:30,360 --> 02:08:35,200 Speaker 2: it is probably the most underrated game winning drive in 2732 02:08:35,560 --> 02:08:38,400 Speaker 2: Super Bowl history. Do you remember this the Rams were 2733 02:08:38,680 --> 02:08:41,360 Speaker 2: actually Rams had to come back in that game to 2734 02:08:41,440 --> 02:08:44,360 Speaker 2: tie it up. And at the end of that game, 2735 02:08:44,440 --> 02:08:46,320 Speaker 2: I remember, I believe it was. 2736 02:08:46,880 --> 02:08:47,880 Speaker 3: John Madden. 2737 02:08:49,760 --> 02:08:52,320 Speaker 2: Was saying that they should just sit on the clock 2738 02:08:52,400 --> 02:08:55,280 Speaker 2: and go to overtime, like they had no timeouts. They're 2739 02:08:55,320 --> 02:08:58,440 Speaker 2: at their own twenty yard line. Why risk it, you know, 2740 02:08:58,720 --> 02:09:02,160 Speaker 2: just go to overtime to make your chances. And Tom 2741 02:09:02,240 --> 02:09:06,080 Speaker 2: Brady made some unbelievable throws set up Vine Terry to 2742 02:09:06,200 --> 02:09:08,000 Speaker 2: win the game with the field goal, and they walked 2743 02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:09,960 Speaker 2: off a winner, and they were in shock. It was 2744 02:09:10,080 --> 02:09:13,800 Speaker 2: just like I mean, and I just maybe Drake May 2745 02:09:14,040 --> 02:09:16,200 Speaker 2: is that maybe this will be the game where we 2746 02:09:16,360 --> 02:09:19,560 Speaker 2: annoyed Drake May as the next guy because he. 2747 02:09:19,600 --> 02:09:21,520 Speaker 3: Hasn't looked like it so far in the playoffs. 2748 02:09:21,600 --> 02:09:25,440 Speaker 2: But something holds me back from just saying, based on paper, 2749 02:09:25,560 --> 02:09:28,160 Speaker 2: this should not even be a game. Seattle is a 2750 02:09:28,320 --> 02:09:33,320 Speaker 2: significantly better team on paper than the New England Patriots. 2751 02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:36,680 Speaker 4: But something tells me this game is gonna surprise us. 2752 02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:40,120 Speaker 5: I'm not sure about that, and it's not about paper. 2753 02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:43,280 Speaker 5: Seattle is a better team on the field. It's got 2754 02:09:43,320 --> 02:09:47,160 Speaker 5: nothing to do with paper. But you get two weeks, right, 2755 02:09:47,200 --> 02:09:51,000 Speaker 5: you get two weeks to prepare for these teams. Rabel, 2756 02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:53,560 Speaker 5: he's a coaching guy. He's got a defense. He's got 2757 02:09:53,600 --> 02:09:55,400 Speaker 5: some stars on the defense. They've done a great job 2758 02:09:55,480 --> 02:09:57,440 Speaker 5: with the defense. They went out and spent a lot 2759 02:09:57,480 --> 02:10:01,240 Speaker 5: of money free agency on the defensive line from Alabama. 2760 02:10:01,320 --> 02:10:03,360 Speaker 5: List like he's fourming it's around and what they thought 2761 02:10:03,440 --> 02:10:05,800 Speaker 5: he was gonna be when he was drafted coming out 2762 02:10:05,800 --> 02:10:08,360 Speaker 5: of Obama as an All SEC. I believe all American 2763 02:10:08,360 --> 02:10:11,320 Speaker 5: guy also there to me, he was a stud at Bama. 2764 02:10:11,480 --> 02:10:13,080 Speaker 5: Just take some guys, as always say, take some guys 2765 02:10:13,120 --> 02:10:14,720 Speaker 5: a little longer than others to just kind of get 2766 02:10:14,800 --> 02:10:17,200 Speaker 5: going in this league. And I feel like that's what's 2767 02:10:17,240 --> 02:10:19,640 Speaker 5: happened with some of these guys they have on this defense. 2768 02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:24,080 Speaker 5: But defenses, see, we also saw this with the Broncos 2769 02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:26,640 Speaker 5: in the sey All Super Bowl. Peyton Man had broken 2770 02:10:26,680 --> 02:10:28,920 Speaker 5: the passing record as far as the touchdowns. They were 2771 02:10:29,040 --> 02:10:33,120 Speaker 5: just walloping teams and just running through everybody. But we 2772 02:10:33,280 --> 02:10:36,200 Speaker 5: underestimated that legion of the boom. We underestimated that defense 2773 02:10:37,040 --> 02:10:40,640 Speaker 5: and Sam Donald the reason why I just look at 2774 02:10:40,680 --> 02:10:47,000 Speaker 5: this Super Bowl ish, whoever wins this game, I don't 2775 02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:48,520 Speaker 5: know if it's going to be because of the quarterback. 2776 02:10:49,280 --> 02:10:52,040 Speaker 5: I don't Sam Donald could have a bad game and 2777 02:10:52,080 --> 02:10:54,840 Speaker 5: they could still win this game. Drake make it have 2778 02:10:54,880 --> 02:10:56,320 Speaker 5: a bad game up. He's had three of them in 2779 02:10:56,320 --> 02:10:58,320 Speaker 5: the playoffs. Guess where they are in the super Bowl. 2780 02:10:59,160 --> 02:11:03,360 Speaker 5: That's what leaning me more towards Seattle. Not an official pick, 2781 02:11:03,640 --> 02:11:05,880 Speaker 5: but was leaning me more towards Seattle. Even to cover 2782 02:11:06,520 --> 02:11:09,600 Speaker 5: could be by ten, could be by ten plus because 2783 02:11:09,600 --> 02:11:12,280 Speaker 5: I believe one of these defenses can score. Like I'm 2784 02:11:12,320 --> 02:11:14,080 Speaker 5: gonna have that on my prop at which defense scores 2785 02:11:14,120 --> 02:11:16,480 Speaker 5: a touchdown here? If a defense gives you a touchdown, 2786 02:11:16,520 --> 02:11:19,240 Speaker 5: I just think it leans more that way. They have 2787 02:11:19,600 --> 02:11:22,800 Speaker 5: the better number one receiver, they have the better offensive line, 2788 02:11:23,240 --> 02:11:26,040 Speaker 5: they have the better pass rush, they have the Seattle 2789 02:11:26,120 --> 02:11:29,360 Speaker 5: has the better of everything. I think quarterbacks all wash, 2790 02:11:29,960 --> 02:11:34,440 Speaker 5: but they have the better of everything else on the field. 2791 02:11:34,560 --> 02:11:37,080 Speaker 5: And if you go down to the coaches, I'm just 2792 02:11:37,160 --> 02:11:39,560 Speaker 5: not sure Raver's gonna win Coach of the Year. But 2793 02:11:39,640 --> 02:11:41,040 Speaker 5: I'm not sure head to hit, I would just take 2794 02:11:41,080 --> 02:11:43,600 Speaker 5: him far and beyond over Mike McDaniel right now, right, 2795 02:11:43,640 --> 02:11:45,520 Speaker 5: I mean, I would just go, hey man, maybe maybe 2796 02:11:45,560 --> 02:11:46,440 Speaker 5: coaching is a wash. 2797 02:11:46,520 --> 02:11:48,480 Speaker 2: Out of this Sat so Mike McDonald wanted to go 2798 02:11:48,600 --> 02:11:51,240 Speaker 2: back to his days. Is the McDonald starrys at mcdoniel McDonald, I. 2799 02:11:51,280 --> 02:11:52,960 Speaker 3: Know you have McDaniel on your mind all the time. 2800 02:11:53,000 --> 02:11:53,840 Speaker 3: God get that yet. 2801 02:11:54,320 --> 02:11:56,560 Speaker 4: So and by the way, it's always confusing to me. 2802 02:11:56,680 --> 02:11:57,720 Speaker 4: Let's let's be honest with you. 2803 02:11:58,280 --> 02:12:02,400 Speaker 2: You have Mike McDaniel. You have Mike McDonald, and then 2804 02:12:02,520 --> 02:12:09,360 Speaker 2: you have you have a Kevin McConnell and McDaniels, McDaniel Daniels. 2805 02:12:09,840 --> 02:12:12,240 Speaker 5: Right, McDaniel has a lot of mc a lot of 2806 02:12:12,280 --> 02:12:14,400 Speaker 5: Mickey D's, man, a lot of Mickey's. And then you 2807 02:12:14,560 --> 02:12:18,960 Speaker 5: have the Jaden Daniel. Yeah, that's very confusing anyway. 2808 02:12:19,440 --> 02:12:23,640 Speaker 2: Mike McDonald, who basically his whole coaching career was with 2809 02:12:23,800 --> 02:12:25,600 Speaker 2: the Ravens except for that one year he went to 2810 02:12:25,720 --> 02:12:30,320 Speaker 2: the Mexician. But he's a defensive guy, right, Okay, So 2811 02:12:31,040 --> 02:12:33,800 Speaker 2: since twenty twenty three when he was defensive coordinator with 2812 02:12:33,880 --> 02:12:38,320 Speaker 2: the Ravens, he has his defenses and it's his defense 2813 02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:43,480 Speaker 2: that we see in Seattle obviously have faced six quarterbacks 2814 02:12:43,560 --> 02:12:46,600 Speaker 2: under the age of twenty four since twenty twenty three. 2815 02:12:47,520 --> 02:12:51,919 Speaker 2: Those six quarterbacks are oh and six with one touchdown, 2816 02:12:52,040 --> 02:12:55,080 Speaker 2: eight interceptions in twenty two sacks it is, and Drake 2817 02:12:55,160 --> 02:12:55,920 Speaker 2: May's twenty three. 2818 02:12:57,200 --> 02:12:57,600 Speaker 3: There it is. 2819 02:12:57,720 --> 02:13:00,720 Speaker 5: Man, he has so much experience the Drake May. 2820 02:13:00,880 --> 02:13:01,640 Speaker 3: He here's the thing. 2821 02:13:01,680 --> 02:13:04,600 Speaker 2: And by the way, he gets an extra week to prepare, right, 2822 02:13:04,760 --> 02:13:07,760 Speaker 2: I mean he's watching a lot of Drake May right now, 2823 02:13:07,840 --> 02:13:10,000 Speaker 2: who's already struggled against. 2824 02:13:10,440 --> 02:13:15,680 Speaker 3: You know, and the Broncos and the and the detection. Right, 2825 02:13:15,760 --> 02:13:16,080 Speaker 3: I mean he. 2826 02:13:16,080 --> 02:13:17,960 Speaker 2: Struggled in all these games. Now, by the way, all 2827 02:13:18,040 --> 02:13:20,920 Speaker 2: these teams are top five defense. Yes, well, here comes another, 2828 02:13:21,040 --> 02:13:22,240 Speaker 2: and here's another, here's another. 2829 02:13:22,360 --> 02:13:23,480 Speaker 3: This is a number one story. 2830 02:13:23,640 --> 02:13:26,240 Speaker 2: Here he comes another, although this is also a defense, 2831 02:13:26,280 --> 02:13:28,360 Speaker 2: said Matthew Stafford had no problem with. 2832 02:13:28,760 --> 02:13:31,520 Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford is also a Hall of Famer. Matthew Stafford 2833 02:13:31,560 --> 02:13:34,720 Speaker 5: all is gonna win MVP. Matthew Stafford also has a 2834 02:13:34,840 --> 02:13:38,600 Speaker 5: Super Bowl. Drake May is just getting going, Matthew Stafford, 2835 02:13:38,600 --> 02:13:41,800 Speaker 5: and it probably drove Mike McDonald crazy that he couldn't 2836 02:13:41,880 --> 02:13:44,640 Speaker 5: rattle this guy. But like one of my favorite lines 2837 02:13:44,680 --> 02:13:47,320 Speaker 5: in sports, sometimes the other guy is good too many 2838 02:13:47,600 --> 02:13:50,360 Speaker 5: Sometimes the other guy you're playing like you you think 2839 02:13:50,440 --> 02:13:53,200 Speaker 5: Papavich at some point just looked at his players, is like, hey, look, man, 2840 02:13:53,200 --> 02:13:54,360 Speaker 5: when we played the Lakers tonight. 2841 02:13:54,840 --> 02:13:57,440 Speaker 3: Just do what you can on Kobe, honestly, right, just 2842 02:13:57,480 --> 02:13:57,680 Speaker 3: do it. 2843 02:13:57,800 --> 02:14:00,080 Speaker 5: Hey, if you're Phil Jackson, hey, look just you know 2844 02:14:00,160 --> 02:14:02,920 Speaker 5: what you can't against Duncan. We're not stopping him tonight. 2845 02:14:03,320 --> 02:14:04,960 Speaker 5: But we don't want to give up forty three to 2846 02:14:05,040 --> 02:14:07,720 Speaker 5: fifteen and five blocks. We don't want to give Dad. 2847 02:14:08,000 --> 02:14:09,960 Speaker 5: You don't want to give Kobe thirty seven. You don't 2848 02:14:09,960 --> 02:14:12,200 Speaker 5: only get Kobe forty two. You go home in twenty six, 2849 02:14:12,280 --> 02:14:14,200 Speaker 5: twenty seven and we hold overy. Okay, maybe we get 2850 02:14:14,240 --> 02:14:18,480 Speaker 5: a dub tonight, but that's how Matthew Stafford is that defense. Like, look, 2851 02:14:19,160 --> 02:14:20,760 Speaker 5: let's not like the guy go ballistic and throw for 2852 02:14:20,760 --> 02:14:21,480 Speaker 5: four hundred yards. 2853 02:14:21,680 --> 02:14:23,920 Speaker 3: He throws close, he can throw for three sixty seven, 2854 02:14:24,360 --> 02:14:26,560 Speaker 3: but then they fumble the punt and all that. I mean, 2855 02:14:26,920 --> 02:14:27,880 Speaker 3: there's just some guys. 2856 02:14:28,360 --> 02:14:29,840 Speaker 5: Look at look at what the other top quarterbacks in 2857 02:14:29,840 --> 02:14:31,720 Speaker 5: the league have done against Seattle defense. I wentn't look 2858 02:14:31,720 --> 02:14:33,360 Speaker 5: that up. I went looked at all their games and 2859 02:14:33,400 --> 02:14:37,040 Speaker 5: look at the opposing quarterbacks. They shut people down. They 2860 02:14:37,280 --> 02:14:42,160 Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford lit them up three times this year. Nobody 2861 02:14:42,280 --> 02:14:43,640 Speaker 5: else has come close to them. 2862 02:14:43,680 --> 02:14:45,720 Speaker 2: Here's the one thing and again We're gonna continue to 2863 02:14:45,720 --> 02:14:48,320 Speaker 2: break this all down. But just quickly, let's face it, 2864 02:14:48,440 --> 02:14:50,520 Speaker 2: Drake May did a lot more damage with his legs 2865 02:14:50,560 --> 02:14:52,320 Speaker 2: than his arm, absolutely against Denver. 2866 02:14:52,520 --> 02:14:54,120 Speaker 3: I mean was his key runs. 2867 02:14:54,160 --> 02:14:56,920 Speaker 2: I mean, this is shades of Patrick Mahomes where he 2868 02:14:56,960 --> 02:15:00,360 Speaker 2: would sometimes actually do more damage with his legs then 2869 02:15:00,400 --> 02:15:02,400 Speaker 2: he would throw in the ball. And I'm sure you 2870 02:15:02,440 --> 02:15:03,920 Speaker 2: know Mike McDonald's thinking about that. 2871 02:15:04,080 --> 02:15:04,120 Speaker 9: That. 2872 02:15:04,400 --> 02:15:06,960 Speaker 3: Okay, we can't let that go. Put a spy on him. 2873 02:15:06,960 --> 02:15:08,880 Speaker 2: I mean, if we're gonna stop this guy, we can't 2874 02:15:08,960 --> 02:15:10,920 Speaker 2: let him off the hook and let him run for 2875 02:15:11,120 --> 02:15:14,120 Speaker 2: thirty yards or whatever and pick up that all right. 2876 02:15:14,200 --> 02:15:16,840 Speaker 5: On the other side, we continue to breaking also record 2877 02:15:16,960 --> 02:15:19,680 Speaker 5: just stuff on Diggs only real receiver, man, I know, 2878 02:15:19,960 --> 02:15:22,120 Speaker 5: and I know this defense has got one. I would 2879 02:15:22,240 --> 02:15:24,200 Speaker 5: I would press him and put a cover like a 2880 02:15:24,240 --> 02:15:26,120 Speaker 5: safety of cover over almost like a double team. But 2881 02:15:26,160 --> 02:15:30,120 Speaker 5: the shadow and dare somebody else that plays receive for 2882 02:15:30,200 --> 02:15:30,840 Speaker 5: the Patriots to beat me? 2883 02:15:30,840 --> 02:15:32,480 Speaker 2: All right, Well, here's the one thing that's going to 2884 02:15:32,520 --> 02:15:35,920 Speaker 2: be a non factor at least as of now, is 2885 02:15:36,080 --> 02:15:39,160 Speaker 2: the weather, which has been a major factor obviously for 2886 02:15:39,640 --> 02:15:41,240 Speaker 2: New England throughout this postseason. 2887 02:15:41,440 --> 02:15:43,920 Speaker 3: I would continue breaking down This is end Zone Radio. 2888 02:15:45,360 --> 02:15:47,440 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2889 02:15:47,800 --> 02:15:54,560 Speaker 2: Rad Harbin and Husky and Zone Radio. We're in the 2890 02:15:54,600 --> 02:15:57,160 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios. 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That is a 2900 02:16:46,200 --> 02:16:48,080 Speaker 3: crazy Uh was a crazy? 2901 02:16:48,640 --> 02:16:48,920 Speaker 11: It is. 2902 02:16:52,120 --> 02:16:53,480 Speaker 3: Because it's so true. 2903 02:16:53,840 --> 02:16:54,000 Speaker 5: Man. 2904 02:16:54,760 --> 02:16:57,480 Speaker 4: By the way, we found out last time, Shay, you're 2905 02:16:57,520 --> 02:16:58,280 Speaker 4: you're loaded with these? 2906 02:16:58,320 --> 02:17:01,200 Speaker 3: Are? It sounds like a six months supply. What happened 2907 02:17:01,280 --> 02:17:04,039 Speaker 3: was running low though you're running low. So if someone 2908 02:17:06,320 --> 02:17:09,160 Speaker 3: listening to this, I'm leave it alone. The white running low. 2909 02:17:09,680 --> 02:17:10,320 Speaker 3: I just liked that. 2910 02:17:10,920 --> 02:17:12,959 Speaker 7: It's been Yeah, Honestly, I just won the I also 2911 02:17:13,080 --> 02:17:15,800 Speaker 7: just won the college football thing. So I won the 2912 02:17:15,800 --> 02:17:16,400 Speaker 7: Amazon gift? 2913 02:17:16,520 --> 02:17:19,800 Speaker 3: Did you one? Your producer won? By the way, Okay, 2914 02:17:20,360 --> 02:17:21,840 Speaker 3: first of all, I was a limited media like this. 2915 02:17:22,200 --> 02:17:24,480 Speaker 3: I had. I had Indiana losing Alabama in. 2916 02:17:24,480 --> 02:17:25,080 Speaker 5: The first. 2917 02:17:27,480 --> 02:17:29,040 Speaker 3: So you did you have Miami? 2918 02:17:29,400 --> 02:17:30,000 Speaker 1: What happened? 2919 02:17:30,360 --> 02:17:31,359 Speaker 7: No, I had Indiana. 2920 02:17:31,480 --> 02:17:33,760 Speaker 3: I had Indiana, So you had Indiana winning at all? 2921 02:17:33,840 --> 02:17:36,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was eliminated immediately because I had Indiana losing 2922 02:17:36,959 --> 02:17:37,560 Speaker 5: their first game. 2923 02:17:37,680 --> 02:17:39,440 Speaker 4: Oh man, I think I had Miami losing their first 2924 02:17:39,440 --> 02:17:40,520 Speaker 4: I think the. 2925 02:17:40,600 --> 02:17:42,520 Speaker 7: Indiana side of the bracket completely cracked. 2926 02:17:43,320 --> 02:17:44,200 Speaker 3: So that's why. 2927 02:17:44,440 --> 02:17:47,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I Yeah, I mean Indiana threw it 2928 02:17:47,879 --> 02:17:49,000 Speaker 4: in my face and there you go. 2929 02:17:49,240 --> 02:17:52,120 Speaker 7: I didn't have Miami went like getting to the national championship, 2930 02:17:52,120 --> 02:17:53,480 Speaker 7: but I had them going farther than most. 2931 02:17:53,680 --> 02:17:53,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2932 02:17:54,400 --> 02:17:56,600 Speaker 2: I had the two teams in the championship in the 2933 02:17:56,640 --> 02:17:59,480 Speaker 2: first round. Out I probably finished last. I don't think 2934 02:17:59,520 --> 02:18:01,840 Speaker 2: I got a point. The thing I missed everything. 2935 02:18:01,879 --> 02:18:03,240 Speaker 5: I didn't do it because I was I felt like 2936 02:18:03,360 --> 02:18:06,840 Speaker 5: letting one of you guys. Yeah, I felt like letting 2937 02:18:06,879 --> 02:18:11,240 Speaker 5: somebody else around here believe so much. This guy believes 2938 02:18:11,280 --> 02:18:14,360 Speaker 5: the Carson back is destined for Canton. He's going to 2939 02:18:14,360 --> 02:18:16,440 Speaker 5: be a Hall of Fame. I've never said that. I've 2940 02:18:16,480 --> 02:18:18,400 Speaker 5: never said that. I think you've been hyping. I think 2941 02:18:18,440 --> 02:18:21,039 Speaker 5: he's an NFL quarterback. Absolutely, you said, he's better than 2942 02:18:21,200 --> 02:18:21,800 Speaker 5: Ty Simpson. 2943 02:18:21,959 --> 02:18:22,440 Speaker 3: Yes he is. 2944 02:18:23,120 --> 02:18:25,199 Speaker 4: Is he better than Fernando Mendozo? 2945 02:18:26,480 --> 02:18:29,800 Speaker 3: No, no, no, But that's what what is? What is? 2946 02:18:29,800 --> 02:18:30,160 Speaker 3: You guys? 2947 02:18:30,360 --> 02:18:32,720 Speaker 7: By the way, regarding Fornanda Mendoza, did you guys see 2948 02:18:32,760 --> 02:18:35,480 Speaker 7: the trade talks that people are trying to push out 2949 02:18:35,600 --> 02:18:37,800 Speaker 7: right now with the Ravens and the Raiders. 2950 02:18:38,760 --> 02:18:39,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, give the Ravens. 2951 02:18:39,840 --> 02:18:41,760 Speaker 5: Give the Ravens the number one overall pick and the 2952 02:18:41,920 --> 02:18:44,280 Speaker 5: and and the Raiders take Lamar Jackson. 2953 02:18:44,320 --> 02:18:44,680 Speaker 3: I saw that. 2954 02:18:44,760 --> 02:18:46,760 Speaker 2: Okay, well, all right, well let's let's stop for a 2955 02:18:46,800 --> 02:18:49,520 Speaker 2: second here. All right, so Clint Kubiak is going to 2956 02:18:49,520 --> 02:18:51,560 Speaker 2: be the new coach of the Raiders. It can't be 2957 02:18:51,640 --> 02:18:53,920 Speaker 2: official until officer the Super Bowl. 2958 02:18:53,959 --> 02:18:57,760 Speaker 5: I uh, if you're a Clint Kubiak, do you want 2959 02:18:57,840 --> 02:19:00,280 Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson or do you want Fernando Mundo? That's what 2960 02:19:00,600 --> 02:19:02,320 Speaker 5: that was the question. That was the That was the 2961 02:19:02,440 --> 02:19:04,240 Speaker 5: exact question I was about to ask you, guys. Hey, 2962 02:19:04,320 --> 02:19:06,560 Speaker 5: let's play the game now, would you do Shaye? Would 2963 02:19:06,560 --> 02:19:07,039 Speaker 5: you do to move? 2964 02:19:08,879 --> 02:19:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? Chris, would you do to move? Sorry? Remind me, so, 2965 02:19:13,920 --> 02:19:14,640 Speaker 3: what were the term. 2966 02:19:15,040 --> 02:19:18,200 Speaker 5: Ravens getting number one overall pick, Raiders get Lamar Jackson? 2967 02:19:18,360 --> 02:19:21,200 Speaker 5: Straight up yes or no, no, no. 2968 02:19:21,240 --> 02:19:22,080 Speaker 3: I would not do the movie. 2969 02:19:22,200 --> 02:19:24,320 Speaker 2: Okay, it was one thing that well, here's the one 2970 02:19:24,360 --> 02:19:28,680 Speaker 2: thing to keep in mind. Lamar Jackson just celebrated the 2971 02:19:28,720 --> 02:19:32,360 Speaker 2: last month his twenty ninth birthday. He's not even thirty 2972 02:19:32,440 --> 02:19:35,000 Speaker 2: years old yet. Remember he's the youngest Heisman Trophy winner 2973 02:19:35,000 --> 02:19:37,280 Speaker 2: of all time. Yep, even though two freshmen won it. 2974 02:19:37,360 --> 02:19:41,360 Speaker 5: Both Jameis Winston and Johnny Football were older than Lamar 2975 02:19:41,440 --> 02:19:43,760 Speaker 5: Jackson was when he won the Heisman Trophy at Louisville. 2976 02:19:45,560 --> 02:19:49,920 Speaker 3: That is a really good question. I'll be honest with you, man, 2977 02:19:51,160 --> 02:19:54,800 Speaker 3: I I because of what he already has there right now. 2978 02:19:55,360 --> 02:19:58,200 Speaker 3: You do that move in a heartbeat. You do this 2979 02:19:58,400 --> 02:19:59,240 Speaker 3: move and a heartbeat. 2980 02:19:59,360 --> 02:20:03,039 Speaker 5: If you have any questions of whether you should take 2981 02:20:03,200 --> 02:20:07,880 Speaker 5: Mendoza or have Lamar Jackson right now, you need your 2982 02:20:07,959 --> 02:20:08,720 Speaker 5: head examined. 2983 02:20:09,280 --> 02:20:12,480 Speaker 3: If you have any question whether you should do that 2984 02:20:12,600 --> 02:20:14,320 Speaker 3: move or not. I look at I. I'm with you 2985 02:20:14,400 --> 02:20:16,520 Speaker 3: on this one. I would take Lamar Jackson right. 2986 02:20:16,480 --> 02:20:19,520 Speaker 5: Now, right now. And by the way, do you know 2987 02:20:19,600 --> 02:20:21,800 Speaker 5: what RPO is gonna look like with him and ashion 2988 02:20:21,920 --> 02:20:22,160 Speaker 5: gen Z. 2989 02:20:22,800 --> 02:20:24,400 Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying. You got a Hall of Fame 2990 02:20:24,480 --> 02:20:26,160 Speaker 7: tight end already. I was about to say, what's his 2991 02:20:26,240 --> 02:20:27,920 Speaker 7: number one? What's his number one? What's been his number 2992 02:20:27,959 --> 02:20:29,439 Speaker 7: one weapon? In Baltimore? 2993 02:20:29,879 --> 02:20:34,039 Speaker 3: Mark Arrington? Well position, okay, so now you get Now you. 2994 02:20:34,160 --> 02:20:37,760 Speaker 5: Get a younger version of that in Rock Bowers, right, 2995 02:20:38,400 --> 02:20:41,720 Speaker 5: you get a stud back to run rpo off of like, oh, 2996 02:20:41,920 --> 02:20:44,520 Speaker 5: I don't know Derrick Henry, right, not saying, not saying, 2997 02:20:44,560 --> 02:20:47,440 Speaker 5: gense's Dereck Henry. But this kid's a stud. His kid's 2998 02:20:47,480 --> 02:20:49,760 Speaker 5: a bona fide beast. That's why he was so frustrated 2999 02:20:49,800 --> 02:20:52,160 Speaker 5: like he was last year. But when they started really using. 3000 02:20:52,000 --> 02:20:53,800 Speaker 3: Him, what did he look like? He looked like the 3001 02:20:53,879 --> 02:20:56,000 Speaker 3: next one. He looks like the next one. You do 3002 02:20:56,120 --> 02:20:58,680 Speaker 3: this in a heartbeat, so you think about this. So 3003 02:20:58,800 --> 02:20:59,120 Speaker 3: they won. 3004 02:20:59,320 --> 02:21:03,920 Speaker 2: Heisman's nine years apart. But Lamar Jackson is only six 3005 02:21:04,040 --> 02:21:06,800 Speaker 2: years older, right. The Mendoza, well, Mendoz is like twenty eight, 3006 02:21:06,879 --> 02:21:09,080 Speaker 2: he's twenty three. He's actually twenty two. 3007 02:21:09,160 --> 02:21:12,440 Speaker 4: I was pusheople, I like doing it anyway, Well, we'll see, 3008 02:21:12,560 --> 02:21:14,199 Speaker 4: we'll see, it's. 3009 02:21:14,080 --> 02:21:16,520 Speaker 5: Not gonna happen. I saw the exact reports, and these 3010 02:21:16,520 --> 02:21:18,640 Speaker 5: are legit reports. I saw the Zach report, just like 3011 02:21:18,760 --> 02:21:20,760 Speaker 5: I know you guys saw the report that the Vikings 3012 02:21:21,080 --> 02:21:23,840 Speaker 5: are gonna pursue Joe Burrow, which I told you guys 3013 02:21:23,879 --> 02:21:24,920 Speaker 5: he's gonna get traded. 3014 02:21:25,000 --> 02:21:25,160 Speaker 3: Well. 3015 02:21:25,240 --> 02:21:28,320 Speaker 2: But again, this the reason that we're talking about Lamar 3016 02:21:28,520 --> 02:21:31,240 Speaker 2: Jackson and bo because they're the franchise that they played for. 3017 02:21:31,320 --> 02:21:33,160 Speaker 2: Are not gonna pay that kind of money? Are you 3018 02:21:33,240 --> 02:21:39,200 Speaker 2: gonna pay seventy million dollars for Lamar Jackson? You've won 3019 02:21:39,320 --> 02:21:41,960 Speaker 2: three playoff games in eight years of Lamar Jackson is 3020 02:21:42,000 --> 02:21:42,560 Speaker 2: your quarterback? 3021 02:21:42,680 --> 02:21:46,640 Speaker 3: Three three off? Your worst year too. But you know 3022 02:21:46,800 --> 02:21:49,000 Speaker 3: where I stand on quarterbacks getting played off. 3023 02:21:49,240 --> 02:21:52,120 Speaker 2: So that's how Lamar Jackson is at that overrated coach, 3024 02:21:52,600 --> 02:21:53,760 Speaker 2: that's most. 3025 02:21:53,600 --> 02:21:55,640 Speaker 3: Overrated coach of all You play both. 3026 02:21:55,520 --> 02:21:57,400 Speaker 5: You play both sides of that because you give him done. 3027 02:21:57,560 --> 02:21:59,200 Speaker 5: Yes you do, because you're given credit for winning the 3028 02:21:59,240 --> 02:22:00,200 Speaker 5: Super Bowl with flat Go. 3029 02:22:00,640 --> 02:22:03,080 Speaker 2: You've said it on hundred I gave him credit because 3030 02:22:03,080 --> 02:22:05,680 Speaker 2: he inherited three of the greatest defensive players. 3031 02:22:05,800 --> 02:22:08,360 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, you give him credit for winning a 3032 02:22:08,480 --> 02:22:09,359 Speaker 3: ring with Flacco. 3033 02:22:09,520 --> 02:22:11,680 Speaker 2: Yes you have, Sorry I haven't, Yes you have, No 3034 02:22:11,840 --> 02:22:16,880 Speaker 2: I did. I asked this question the coach when he 3035 02:22:16,920 --> 02:22:19,240 Speaker 2: won it. Why did he win ten playoff games with 3036 02:22:19,360 --> 02:22:22,400 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco? As this quarterback and only three with Lamar Jackson. 3037 02:22:22,959 --> 02:22:26,600 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson because ray Lewis he had ed Reid, he 3038 02:22:26,680 --> 02:22:27,120 Speaker 2: had twelve. 3039 02:22:27,600 --> 02:22:29,480 Speaker 3: First of all, that was the end of ray Lewis 3040 02:22:29,560 --> 02:22:30,119 Speaker 3: and Edy. 3041 02:22:30,400 --> 02:22:33,640 Speaker 5: Ray Lewis took ray Lewis took the dear antless Bray 3042 02:22:33,720 --> 02:22:34,920 Speaker 5: to even come back to play. 3043 02:22:34,760 --> 02:22:36,600 Speaker 3: From the Tryceps at the end of that game, at 3044 02:22:36,600 --> 02:22:37,240 Speaker 3: the end of that season. 3045 02:22:37,959 --> 02:22:40,000 Speaker 5: That he was still ray Lewis. No, no, he was 3046 02:22:40,000 --> 02:22:42,320 Speaker 5: still ray Lewis. The name he wasn't ray Lewis that 3047 02:22:42,480 --> 02:22:45,039 Speaker 5: he wanted to Ray Louise that one Super Bowl the Giants, he. 3048 02:22:45,160 --> 02:22:47,800 Speaker 2: Was ray Lewis, the leader, one of the great players. 3049 02:22:48,400 --> 02:22:50,280 Speaker 2: That's fine, I've ever been around, I'll give you that. 3050 02:22:50,360 --> 02:22:52,480 Speaker 2: But as far as on the field, on the play. 3051 02:22:52,760 --> 02:22:56,199 Speaker 5: But to Lamar if if if, if you're the Raiders 3052 02:22:56,320 --> 02:22:59,120 Speaker 5: and this is legit, this is really out there, you 3053 02:22:59,280 --> 02:23:00,360 Speaker 5: pursued a hell out of this. 3054 02:23:00,920 --> 02:23:01,959 Speaker 3: You pursued a hella. 3055 02:23:02,400 --> 02:23:04,520 Speaker 5: Let me ask you, this is Mendoza gonna be better 3056 02:23:04,640 --> 02:23:06,080 Speaker 5: than the top flight quarterbacks? 3057 02:23:06,120 --> 02:23:08,840 Speaker 2: We looked at right, we don't, but we knew what's 3058 02:23:08,840 --> 02:23:11,440 Speaker 2: talking about her. Did anyone even hear of this guy 3059 02:23:11,520 --> 02:23:13,920 Speaker 2: before this year? We knew Herbert was gonna be good. 3060 02:23:14,000 --> 02:23:16,520 Speaker 2: We knew Burrow was gonna be Herbert. He's not good 3061 02:23:16,560 --> 02:23:17,560 Speaker 2: on the play we knew, we. 3062 02:23:17,600 --> 02:23:21,920 Speaker 5: Knew, we knew Herbert was gonna be good. I'm not 3063 02:23:21,920 --> 02:23:23,680 Speaker 5: playing this game with you. I've done this for twenty one. 3064 02:23:24,480 --> 02:23:25,879 Speaker 3: You can defending the court. 3065 02:23:26,000 --> 02:23:28,520 Speaker 2: Look at will he be better with Mike mcgannity better 3066 02:23:28,640 --> 02:23:32,560 Speaker 2: be because his three playoff gains have been a would 3067 02:23:32,560 --> 02:23:33,879 Speaker 2: you take would you take her? 3068 02:23:34,000 --> 02:23:36,560 Speaker 3: Would you take Herbert? And Mendoza right now? Stop it? 3069 02:23:36,640 --> 02:23:39,119 Speaker 5: Okay, but we knew certain guys are gonna be good. 3070 02:23:39,640 --> 02:23:42,960 Speaker 5: We we we hope, I hope Mendoza is in a 3071 02:23:43,040 --> 02:23:46,640 Speaker 5: complete bus. He has the measurables. He's a big guy, 3072 02:23:46,840 --> 02:23:49,119 Speaker 5: big arm, he looks like he's got the head, got 3073 02:23:49,160 --> 02:23:51,400 Speaker 5: the head for But he would be also be going 3074 02:23:51,480 --> 02:23:53,440 Speaker 5: to a franchise that we all admit right now is 3075 02:23:53,440 --> 02:23:56,760 Speaker 5: probably one of the worst franchises in all of pro sports, which. 3076 02:23:56,600 --> 02:23:57,200 Speaker 3: Is the Raiders. 3077 02:23:57,320 --> 02:23:59,680 Speaker 2: So you want Lamar Jackson there, You think Lamar Jackson 3078 02:23:59,680 --> 02:24:02,480 Speaker 2: would make the Raiders to the playoffs, Well, immediately I. 3079 02:24:02,560 --> 02:24:03,320 Speaker 3: Was gonna say yes. 3080 02:24:03,560 --> 02:24:06,080 Speaker 7: I don't think the past protection is very different from 3081 02:24:06,160 --> 02:24:09,600 Speaker 7: the Ravens. On the Raiders side Gino Smith. 3082 02:24:09,600 --> 02:24:14,920 Speaker 3: I think, I think that is a different But you 3083 02:24:15,040 --> 02:24:17,840 Speaker 3: can't go after Lamar like you could go after Geno. 3084 02:24:17,920 --> 02:24:18,119 Speaker 3: I don't. 3085 02:24:20,080 --> 02:24:22,040 Speaker 5: Gino's not getting no, No, this year, he was just 3086 02:24:22,120 --> 02:24:24,760 Speaker 5: banged up. Lamar is still gotten twenty eight. Give him 3087 02:24:24,760 --> 02:24:27,240 Speaker 5: an off season the recovering twenty nine. Give him an 3088 02:24:27,240 --> 02:24:29,920 Speaker 5: off season to recover. He was banged up this year. 3089 02:24:30,000 --> 02:24:32,600 Speaker 5: That's why he didn't look to say he's getting banged up. 3090 02:24:32,640 --> 02:24:34,600 Speaker 5: I agree with you, but I mean he's he'll be 3091 02:24:35,400 --> 02:24:37,440 Speaker 5: going to go at some point. He's not the runner 3092 02:24:37,520 --> 02:24:39,360 Speaker 5: he was five years ago. I take the chance on 3093 02:24:39,440 --> 02:24:41,560 Speaker 5: it right now than just trying to bank on Mendoza. 3094 02:24:41,760 --> 02:24:43,200 Speaker 5: But we all agree it's not going to happen. 3095 02:24:43,320 --> 02:24:44,280 Speaker 3: No, No, I don't think so. 3096 02:24:44,360 --> 02:24:47,560 Speaker 5: I think there's more that the Vikings putting together three 3097 02:24:47,600 --> 02:24:50,680 Speaker 5: first round picks, adding JJ McCarthy and maybe Jordan Addison. 3098 02:24:50,720 --> 02:24:53,600 Speaker 4: Why would they want JJ McCarthy because. 3099 02:24:53,320 --> 02:24:54,800 Speaker 3: They're the Bengals. What the hell? What are talking about 3100 02:24:54,800 --> 02:24:55,160 Speaker 3: the Bengals? 3101 02:24:55,200 --> 02:24:56,280 Speaker 5: Why are you trying to act like the Bengals know 3102 02:24:56,320 --> 02:24:59,640 Speaker 5: what they're doing because they're the Bengals. 3103 02:24:59,240 --> 02:25:01,959 Speaker 3: All right. On the other glad you mentioned JD McCart 3104 02:25:02,000 --> 02:25:03,760 Speaker 3: they have a question on the other side. But first 3105 02:25:04,800 --> 02:25:07,320 Speaker 3: let's find out what is a trending right now? 3106 02:25:07,520 --> 02:25:10,600 Speaker 2: So, Muncie, would you trade, if you're the Raiders, the 3107 02:25:10,720 --> 02:25:14,519 Speaker 2: number one overall pick essentially for Nana Mendoza for Lamar Jackson. 3108 02:25:14,280 --> 02:25:16,560 Speaker 3: Straight up, nothing else, just here you got it, a 3109 02:25:16,640 --> 02:25:17,920 Speaker 3: one pick, we want the quarterback? 3110 02:25:18,720 --> 02:25:19,920 Speaker 8: No, No, there you go. 3111 02:25:20,760 --> 02:25:20,800 Speaker 3: No. 3112 02:25:23,200 --> 02:25:26,400 Speaker 8: I would think about it, but I think it would 3113 02:25:26,480 --> 02:25:29,040 Speaker 8: be a no. You have to think about it, right, like, 3114 02:25:29,160 --> 02:25:34,200 Speaker 8: if you're presented that, yeah, absolutely think about it. But 3115 02:25:34,360 --> 02:25:35,840 Speaker 8: I think the answer is no. 3116 02:25:36,080 --> 02:25:36,800 Speaker 3: Okay, because the. 3117 02:25:36,760 --> 02:25:38,040 Speaker 5: One thing you're not gonna have to teach him is 3118 02:25:38,120 --> 02:25:39,320 Speaker 5: how to be an NFL quarterback. 3119 02:25:39,360 --> 02:25:42,160 Speaker 9: He's got that part down, Yeah, But there's something intriguing 3120 02:25:42,280 --> 02:25:45,920 Speaker 9: of like, what can Fernanda Mendoza do? Right, Like, there's 3121 02:25:45,959 --> 02:25:49,120 Speaker 9: something intriguing because he may not it may not be 3122 02:25:49,800 --> 02:25:51,800 Speaker 9: what we think it is, or it might be everything. 3123 02:25:52,000 --> 02:25:53,840 Speaker 3: He might be Trevor Lawrence, or he might be Joe 3124 02:25:53,920 --> 02:25:55,160 Speaker 3: Barrow exactly like, and. 3125 02:25:55,240 --> 02:25:57,840 Speaker 9: I feel like that's why the answer is no, because 3126 02:25:57,879 --> 02:26:00,320 Speaker 9: there's I'm intrigued. I want to see what this guy 3127 02:26:00,400 --> 02:26:03,120 Speaker 9: can do and if you can translate how quickly to 3128 02:26:03,200 --> 02:26:06,160 Speaker 9: the NFL because you know there's gonna be some growing pains. 3129 02:26:06,240 --> 02:26:09,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely well, it's like playing for them he had. Absolutely yeah. 3130 02:26:10,000 --> 02:26:12,640 Speaker 9: I also just love the idea for Nana Mendoza playing 3131 02:26:12,640 --> 02:26:14,600 Speaker 9: for the Raiders like that, to me is so hilarious, 3132 02:26:14,680 --> 02:26:17,120 Speaker 9: the idea of it, because the Raiders and him are 3133 02:26:17,600 --> 02:26:22,400 Speaker 9: so opposite in like yeah styles right like it just 3134 02:26:22,480 --> 02:26:26,560 Speaker 9: seems like a perfect opposite match, like a perfect. 3135 02:26:26,280 --> 02:26:30,520 Speaker 3: Box would be a Tom Brady clone though right there, 3136 02:26:30,760 --> 02:26:33,600 Speaker 3: and he's athletic. 3137 02:26:35,040 --> 02:26:36,720 Speaker 8: Guys and then. 3138 02:26:38,120 --> 02:26:40,720 Speaker 2: Coming out, but he capt this season with one of 3139 02:26:40,800 --> 02:26:42,360 Speaker 2: the most memorable runs ever. 3140 02:26:42,480 --> 02:26:43,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah. 3141 02:26:44,080 --> 02:26:45,880 Speaker 5: What I saw people on TV and radio trying to 3142 02:26:45,959 --> 02:26:49,400 Speaker 5: say he like post yeah, we didn't have to dive. 3143 02:26:49,400 --> 02:26:53,560 Speaker 8: Shut shut up, Yes he did. He were out there, Yeah. 3144 02:26:53,560 --> 02:26:55,840 Speaker 3: Were you out there taking a shot? 3145 02:26:55,959 --> 02:26:59,400 Speaker 2: They were saying that he posed essentially when he took 3146 02:27:00,200 --> 02:27:01,480 Speaker 2: to show somehow like. 3147 02:27:02,240 --> 02:27:04,440 Speaker 5: Get I literally saw people make millions of dollars in 3148 02:27:04,480 --> 02:27:06,039 Speaker 5: this business. Really get on TV and radio. 3149 02:27:05,879 --> 02:27:08,120 Speaker 8: The next day and Sam and say that exat stupid things. 3150 02:27:08,480 --> 02:27:10,959 Speaker 2: Imagine getting hammered by somebody as you're trying to run 3151 02:27:11,000 --> 02:27:13,080 Speaker 2: in and thinking, oh yeah, I'm gonna. 3152 02:27:13,120 --> 02:27:15,840 Speaker 5: Shout right stretch out him, leave my ribs in my 3153 02:27:15,959 --> 02:27:18,600 Speaker 5: back wide open. Four team that's taken, a league that's 3154 02:27:18,640 --> 02:27:20,800 Speaker 5: taken some shots that have not big called. 3155 02:27:20,800 --> 02:27:22,560 Speaker 4: All right, well, that's that's the world we live in. 3156 02:27:22,680 --> 02:27:24,039 Speaker 4: People see things that aren't there. 3157 02:27:24,160 --> 02:27:26,879 Speaker 8: It's true. That's true. All right, Casey missed it. Why 3158 02:27:26,959 --> 02:27:30,440 Speaker 8: this conversation is happening. It seems like the court the 3159 02:27:31,040 --> 02:27:33,320 Speaker 8: coach Cursel has closed up. 3160 02:27:33,360 --> 02:27:36,320 Speaker 9: In the NFL, Raiders are expected to hire Seahawks offensive 3161 02:27:36,360 --> 02:27:39,040 Speaker 9: coordinator Clint Qbac to be their next head coach. 3162 02:27:39,120 --> 02:27:40,160 Speaker 8: This is after the Super Bowl. 3163 02:27:40,400 --> 02:27:42,800 Speaker 9: The Cardinals are planning to hire a Rams offensive coordinator, 3164 02:27:43,000 --> 02:27:45,760 Speaker 9: Mike Lafleur, to be their next head coach, and former 3165 02:27:45,920 --> 02:27:48,480 Speaker 9: Falcons coach Rahie Morris has been hired by the forty 3166 02:27:48,560 --> 02:27:49,000 Speaker 9: nine ers. 3167 02:27:48,959 --> 02:27:52,039 Speaker 8: To be their new defensive coordinator. In the NBA one. 3168 02:27:52,000 --> 02:27:54,120 Speaker 9: Game going on right now, almost at halftime, but the 3169 02:27:54,160 --> 02:27:55,800 Speaker 9: Celtics have taken the lead from the Bucks. 3170 02:27:56,000 --> 02:27:58,440 Speaker 8: They're of fifty four to forty two. Derek White leading 3171 02:27:58,480 --> 02:27:59,200 Speaker 8: the way for Boston. 3172 02:27:59,400 --> 02:28:01,880 Speaker 9: He's got ten points, Ryan Rollins for Milwaukee He's got 3173 02:28:01,920 --> 02:28:02,760 Speaker 9: fourteen points. 3174 02:28:03,120 --> 02:28:05,640 Speaker 8: And golf Justin Rose is still in the lead at 3175 02:28:05,720 --> 02:28:07,000 Speaker 8: the Farmers Insurance Open. 3176 02:28:07,080 --> 02:28:10,560 Speaker 9: He is twenty three under part overall in the NHL 3177 02:28:10,680 --> 02:28:12,640 Speaker 9: one game going on. The Hurricanes are up on the 3178 02:28:12,760 --> 02:28:15,560 Speaker 9: Kings one zero late in the second period and in 3179 02:28:15,680 --> 02:28:20,240 Speaker 9: case Dostic, Carlos Alcarez completed the career Grand Slam overnight 3180 02:28:20,280 --> 02:28:22,960 Speaker 9: at twenty two years old, defeating Novak Djokovic at the 3181 02:28:23,000 --> 02:28:23,960 Speaker 9: Australian Open. 3182 02:28:24,200 --> 02:28:26,480 Speaker 3: Back to you guys, Hi Monsie, thank you very much. 3183 02:28:26,680 --> 02:28:29,720 Speaker 4: As always, brilliant checks out there. 3184 02:28:29,879 --> 02:28:33,440 Speaker 3: I will be here followers hours hours. 3185 02:28:33,720 --> 02:28:35,520 Speaker 4: All right, we're the Fox Sports Radio studios. 3186 02:28:35,520 --> 02:28:36,520 Speaker 3: Don't forget after the show. 3187 02:28:36,520 --> 02:28:38,360 Speaker 2: Our podcast is going up, so if you miss any 3188 02:28:38,400 --> 02:28:41,560 Speaker 2: of today's show, check out the podcast. Just search Fox 3189 02:28:41,600 --> 02:28:44,000 Speaker 2: Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to 3190 02:28:44,040 --> 02:28:46,760 Speaker 2: follow and review the podcast rated five stars. Again, just 3191 02:28:46,840 --> 02:28:50,240 Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. 3192 02:28:50,280 --> 02:28:52,680 Speaker 5: See today's show posted right after we get off the air. 3193 02:28:52,800 --> 02:28:54,119 Speaker 5: You mentioned JJ McCarthy. 3194 02:28:54,800 --> 02:28:58,840 Speaker 2: The Minnesota Vikings fired their GM, so all that, and 3195 02:28:59,600 --> 02:29:02,920 Speaker 2: he he was known as an analytics guy. Okay, he 3196 02:29:03,040 --> 02:29:06,840 Speaker 2: was big analytics guy, right, and so they made a 3197 02:29:06,920 --> 02:29:12,160 Speaker 2: decision among others that we used a first round pick 3198 02:29:12,240 --> 02:29:16,960 Speaker 2: on JJ McCarthy. Unfortunately he misses rookie season with an injury. 3199 02:29:17,840 --> 02:29:22,320 Speaker 2: We saw Sam Donald literally off the scrap heap completely 3200 02:29:22,560 --> 02:29:25,840 Speaker 2: almost out of the league, suddenly have a Pro Bowl 3201 02:29:26,080 --> 02:29:28,960 Speaker 2: season for our team. So we're going to trust that 3202 02:29:29,200 --> 02:29:32,480 Speaker 2: our coach can do the same thing with JJ McCarthy 3203 02:29:32,520 --> 02:29:35,520 Speaker 2: he did with Sam Donald. What's the difference. So they 3204 02:29:35,640 --> 02:29:38,240 Speaker 2: let Sam Donald go and now Sam Donald's in the 3205 02:29:38,280 --> 02:29:40,200 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. And so this is going to get a 3206 02:29:40,240 --> 02:29:42,760 Speaker 2: lot of attention. I mean it's already getting obviously a 3207 02:29:42,800 --> 02:29:45,400 Speaker 2: lot of attention because the Vikings didn't make the playoffs 3208 02:29:45,440 --> 02:29:45,720 Speaker 2: this year. 3209 02:29:45,720 --> 02:29:46,600 Speaker 3: Although they finished with. 3210 02:29:46,600 --> 02:29:49,199 Speaker 2: A winning record, they didn't have a complete flameout season, 3211 02:29:49,560 --> 02:29:52,120 Speaker 2: and McCarthy was unfortunately hurt for much of the season. 3212 02:29:52,879 --> 02:29:57,480 Speaker 2: So as someone that is a big proponent of JJ McCarthy, 3213 02:29:57,520 --> 02:29:59,280 Speaker 2: and by the way, I supported their pick. I'm not 3214 02:29:59,400 --> 02:30:02,039 Speaker 2: an anti JJ McCarthy. Guy, I know what I saw 3215 02:30:02,080 --> 02:30:05,160 Speaker 2: on gosh uh no no no. I said this when 3216 02:30:05,200 --> 02:30:08,280 Speaker 2: he was at Michigan. I said this at Michigan. I said, Look, 3217 02:30:08,440 --> 02:30:10,160 Speaker 2: he plays for Jim Harborough. He wants to run the 3218 02:30:10,200 --> 02:30:12,720 Speaker 2: ball first. They run the ball first. But every time 3219 02:30:12,840 --> 02:30:15,160 Speaker 2: he needed to make play, especially in that playoff game 3220 02:30:15,200 --> 02:30:17,440 Speaker 2: against Alabama, he made plays. 3221 02:30:18,120 --> 02:30:20,320 Speaker 3: He made plays that helped. 3222 02:30:20,120 --> 02:30:22,480 Speaker 2: Michigan win that game and win a national Championship, So 3223 02:30:22,560 --> 02:30:26,160 Speaker 2: it's not like a anti him. The question is now 3224 02:30:26,240 --> 02:30:29,280 Speaker 2: that we are where we are as Sam Donald gets 3225 02:30:29,400 --> 02:30:31,480 Speaker 2: ready to play in the super Bowl after what he 3226 02:30:31,560 --> 02:30:33,680 Speaker 2: played his best game I've ever seen. That was the 3227 02:30:33,800 --> 02:30:37,520 Speaker 2: best game, Sam Donald, and I'm having to be in 3228 02:30:37,560 --> 02:30:40,200 Speaker 2: the NFC Championship game against the Ring, I'm with you. 3229 02:30:40,640 --> 02:30:44,080 Speaker 2: Are you still one hundred percent supportive of the Vikings 3230 02:30:44,200 --> 02:30:47,360 Speaker 2: move of which the general manager walked the plank that 3231 02:30:47,720 --> 02:30:51,600 Speaker 2: keeping JJ McCarthy and letting Sam Darnold go was best 3232 02:30:51,640 --> 02:30:52,800 Speaker 2: for the Vikings organization? 3233 02:30:53,080 --> 02:30:54,920 Speaker 5: This is my problem with the Vikings, and I said 3234 02:30:54,959 --> 02:30:56,920 Speaker 5: this during the season and no one still wants to 3235 02:30:57,040 --> 02:30:59,960 Speaker 5: touch it. When do we start to talk about O'Connell. 3236 02:31:00,600 --> 02:31:03,560 Speaker 5: When does that start to become the conversation this idea. 3237 02:31:03,680 --> 02:31:05,119 Speaker 5: First of all, I'm sorry I have to push back 3238 02:31:05,160 --> 02:31:08,200 Speaker 5: on Sam Darter was nobody, not no. He was in 3239 02:31:08,360 --> 02:31:11,480 Speaker 5: San Francisco. So what Carolina first was in San Francisco, 3240 02:31:11,720 --> 02:31:14,119 Speaker 5: he went through two teams that were one was rebuilding. 3241 02:31:14,200 --> 02:31:17,080 Speaker 5: Then he goes to Shanahan and Shanahan almost rebilitates him, 3242 02:31:17,200 --> 02:31:20,200 Speaker 5: just like McVeigh did for Baker Mayfield. So he wasn't 3243 02:31:20,280 --> 02:31:24,080 Speaker 5: just out there, just not playing doing selling groceries or 3244 02:31:24,240 --> 02:31:26,199 Speaker 5: selling in shorts or working at the local gas station. 3245 02:31:26,320 --> 02:31:28,680 Speaker 3: So that's not that's not the case. Okay. 3246 02:31:29,040 --> 02:31:30,920 Speaker 5: He also was blessed enough to be able to be 3247 02:31:31,000 --> 02:31:32,640 Speaker 5: a veteran. What is the eighth year in the league. 3248 02:31:32,680 --> 02:31:35,400 Speaker 5: Now like he's been around and he's getting his second shot. 3249 02:31:35,440 --> 02:31:37,520 Speaker 5: We just saw what Danny dimes. It happens. 3250 02:31:38,000 --> 02:31:42,640 Speaker 3: But if you're the Vikings, you can't just dismiss your 3251 02:31:42,680 --> 02:31:46,200 Speaker 3: eleventh overall pick, tenth overall pick excuse me, and which 3252 02:31:46,320 --> 02:31:48,320 Speaker 3: essentially was gonna be going into his second year, his 3253 02:31:48,520 --> 02:31:51,119 Speaker 3: rookie year, he had the NCL. It was a watch, 3254 02:31:51,320 --> 02:31:53,240 Speaker 3: so he didn't even play. This was his rookie year. 3255 02:31:53,720 --> 02:31:56,360 Speaker 5: We're judging a guy trying to call somebody their career. 3256 02:31:56,600 --> 02:31:58,840 Speaker 5: We made this mistake with Kayler Wims, you myself, and 3257 02:31:58,920 --> 02:32:00,640 Speaker 5: but we we've all openly admitted this. 3258 02:32:00,959 --> 02:32:02,720 Speaker 3: We were out on Caleb Wims after week eight in 3259 02:32:02,800 --> 02:32:03,280 Speaker 3: Week one. 3260 02:32:03,879 --> 02:32:06,240 Speaker 5: Against Drake may Last year, people were out on Drake Maye, 3261 02:32:06,280 --> 02:32:08,320 Speaker 5: people were out on Bryce young people. And now oh 3262 02:32:08,400 --> 02:32:13,520 Speaker 5: this year, ooh, Jayden, Jayden Daniels, he's hurt, dude, he's hurt. 3263 02:32:14,080 --> 02:32:16,119 Speaker 5: But let's not forget what he looked like his rookie 3264 02:32:16,200 --> 02:32:18,720 Speaker 5: year they went to the conference championship game. When guy's 3265 02:32:18,760 --> 02:32:22,120 Speaker 5: out on the field, I think in today's world, we 3266 02:32:22,959 --> 02:32:25,360 Speaker 5: start to kind of forget how good the player is 3267 02:32:25,760 --> 02:32:27,720 Speaker 5: when they're a little banged up or when they're out. 3268 02:32:27,879 --> 02:32:30,440 Speaker 5: If you're the Vikings, you don't sell the ship on this, 3269 02:32:30,560 --> 02:32:34,000 Speaker 5: shet man. You have a great offseason. You rebound from this. 3270 02:32:34,240 --> 02:32:36,879 Speaker 5: I think now the Joe Burrow thing, this story that's 3271 02:32:36,959 --> 02:32:38,880 Speaker 5: out there, the room that's out there, Yeah, you do 3272 02:32:39,000 --> 02:32:39,360 Speaker 5: that deal. 3273 02:32:39,400 --> 02:32:40,800 Speaker 3: I'm not JJ's my guy. 3274 02:32:40,879 --> 02:32:42,840 Speaker 5: I will forever be in debted to my man for 3275 02:32:42,959 --> 02:32:46,480 Speaker 5: twenty twenty three, fourteen to fifteen to no Michigan National 3276 02:32:46,560 --> 02:32:47,280 Speaker 5: Championship five. 3277 02:32:47,320 --> 02:32:49,280 Speaker 3: But I'm also an analyst and I'm a professional in 3278 02:32:49,320 --> 02:32:49,800 Speaker 3: his sports. 3279 02:32:50,200 --> 02:32:52,760 Speaker 5: If you tell me I could get Joe Burrow and 3280 02:32:52,879 --> 02:32:56,440 Speaker 5: I'm giving up JJ McCarthy, Hey, JJ, good luck buddy, 3281 02:32:58,800 --> 02:32:59,320 Speaker 5: right then. 3282 02:32:59,600 --> 02:33:01,720 Speaker 3: Come on, I mean, but that trade is not gonna happen, 3283 02:33:01,800 --> 02:33:02,959 Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy. 3284 02:33:03,440 --> 02:33:06,640 Speaker 5: Back, I don't, well, no, no, I if the tray 3285 02:33:06,720 --> 02:33:08,880 Speaker 5: is not gonna happen, if Cincinnati doesn't want JJ. 3286 02:33:09,440 --> 02:33:11,920 Speaker 3: But I do believe that Joe Burrow is on his 3287 02:33:12,040 --> 02:33:12,960 Speaker 3: way out that door. 3288 02:33:13,560 --> 02:33:15,640 Speaker 5: He doesn't want to be there, and I think Cincinnati 3289 02:33:15,720 --> 02:33:17,600 Speaker 5: is one of those teams like, look, man, we're not 3290 02:33:17,760 --> 02:33:19,160 Speaker 5: doing this. Okay, if you don't want to be here, 3291 02:33:19,200 --> 02:33:22,280 Speaker 5: we're not gonna hold you. But we'll try to get 3292 02:33:22,320 --> 02:33:24,360 Speaker 5: the best deal. Somebody's got to give up three first 3293 02:33:24,440 --> 02:33:26,800 Speaker 5: round picks. So but for JJ, yes, he's the starter 3294 02:33:26,920 --> 02:33:29,040 Speaker 5: going into next season. Now, I will say this, I 3295 02:33:29,080 --> 02:33:31,880 Speaker 5: would bring in a veteran. You have to really push 3296 02:33:31,959 --> 02:33:33,640 Speaker 5: him this offseason. I really would you. 3297 02:33:33,840 --> 02:33:37,520 Speaker 4: You basically all season long downplayed Sam Darno. 3298 02:33:38,040 --> 02:33:40,520 Speaker 3: Of course I have. And now he is one win 3299 02:33:40,560 --> 02:33:42,680 Speaker 3: away and he's got to finish the job. And he's 3300 02:33:42,680 --> 02:33:44,360 Speaker 3: got to finish the job if he if. 3301 02:33:44,280 --> 02:33:46,640 Speaker 2: He plays anywhere near the level he did against the 3302 02:33:46,760 --> 02:33:49,160 Speaker 2: Rams and they win the Super Bowl? Where do you 3303 02:33:49,240 --> 02:33:53,920 Speaker 2: rank him amongst quarterbacks? I mean Jalen Hurts obviously, Is 3304 02:33:54,080 --> 02:33:55,400 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts still top five? 3305 02:33:55,560 --> 02:33:55,880 Speaker 3: I'm not. 3306 02:33:56,080 --> 02:33:57,600 Speaker 5: I let me tell you one thing I'm not going 3307 02:33:57,640 --> 02:33:58,840 Speaker 5: to do in this business. The one thing I'm not 3308 02:33:58,879 --> 02:34:01,480 Speaker 5: going to do is take one year year. You you 3309 02:34:01,640 --> 02:34:04,320 Speaker 5: hate hamper Cup, you hate Cooper Cups one year, So 3310 02:34:04,440 --> 02:34:04,840 Speaker 5: don't tell me. 3311 02:34:04,920 --> 02:34:07,920 Speaker 3: I gotta right day. Everybody was a one year wonder 3312 02:34:07,959 --> 02:34:08,320 Speaker 3: all right. 3313 02:34:08,280 --> 02:34:09,800 Speaker 5: This so then so then I could call it. I 3314 02:34:09,840 --> 02:34:13,520 Speaker 5: could call if if Super Bowl MVP Award this week, 3315 02:34:13,560 --> 02:34:15,800 Speaker 5: if Sam Donald wins it, then I could call him 3316 02:34:15,840 --> 02:34:18,480 Speaker 5: a one year wonder two because one year doesn't erase seven. 3317 02:34:19,360 --> 02:34:21,440 Speaker 5: I'm not going to back off of what I'm saying 3318 02:34:21,480 --> 02:34:23,600 Speaker 5: about him. I would just say, look, he had a 3319 02:34:23,680 --> 02:34:25,480 Speaker 5: good year, they were a good team, the guy won 3320 02:34:25,560 --> 02:34:27,560 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. I'm never gonna take the super Bowl. 3321 02:34:27,440 --> 02:34:30,040 Speaker 4: Away now thirty and seven the last two years him 3322 02:34:30,240 --> 02:34:31,520 Speaker 4: now elevate him all. 3323 02:34:31,480 --> 02:34:33,480 Speaker 3: Of a sudden in the top ten. So who are 3324 02:34:33,520 --> 02:34:35,640 Speaker 3: we dropping out of the top time? Saying top five? 3325 02:34:36,040 --> 02:34:38,640 Speaker 5: Oh my god, you gotta be I think you're trolling 3326 02:34:38,720 --> 02:34:40,760 Speaker 5: right now. You don't believe that you're too smart in 3327 02:34:40,800 --> 02:34:43,040 Speaker 5: this business. Wait, you're too smart, Steve. 3328 02:34:43,400 --> 02:34:45,400 Speaker 4: Okay, who whoa, whoa? Who's in your top five? 3329 02:34:45,480 --> 02:34:48,240 Speaker 3: Now? Is Lamar Jackson still in your top five? Of 3330 02:34:48,280 --> 02:34:49,240 Speaker 3: course he is. Why wouldn't he be? 3331 02:34:49,720 --> 02:34:51,520 Speaker 5: Why wouldn't he be because he didn't make the playoffs 3332 02:34:51,520 --> 02:34:53,480 Speaker 5: this year, because he was banged up, because the team 3333 02:34:53,600 --> 02:34:53,840 Speaker 5: was hurt. 3334 02:34:53,920 --> 02:34:56,720 Speaker 3: Because it's Jackson your top because this kicker miss the 3335 02:34:56,760 --> 02:34:59,880 Speaker 3: field goal? If someone out here is taking it right now. 3336 02:35:00,080 --> 02:35:02,480 Speaker 3: Is Matthew Stafford in your top five? But why why 3337 02:35:02,480 --> 02:35:03,000 Speaker 3: wouldn't he be? 3338 02:35:03,120 --> 02:35:04,760 Speaker 4: But now you got like ten guys in your top 3339 02:35:05,320 --> 02:35:06,320 Speaker 4: yeah you do, I don't. 3340 02:35:06,400 --> 02:35:10,360 Speaker 3: My top five right now here, still in your top five? 3341 02:35:10,440 --> 02:35:10,880 Speaker 3: Where we go? 3342 02:35:11,800 --> 02:35:14,240 Speaker 5: Yes, Mahomes is still in my top five? Why wouldn't 3343 02:35:14,280 --> 02:35:17,480 Speaker 5: he be because he's hurt? That does No, I'm not doing. 3344 02:35:17,320 --> 02:35:18,640 Speaker 3: I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. 3345 02:35:18,879 --> 02:35:20,600 Speaker 5: I game my top top five, game my top five, 3346 02:35:20,680 --> 02:35:24,840 Speaker 5: my top five right now, Mahomes, give me Joe, give me, 3347 02:35:25,000 --> 02:35:27,039 Speaker 5: give me Burrow, give me Lamar. 3348 02:35:29,080 --> 02:35:32,840 Speaker 3: You know what, hell, I'll do it. Man, give me Josh. Okay, 3349 02:35:32,879 --> 02:35:36,959 Speaker 3: that's five. No, that's four, Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar. Listen, I'm 3350 02:35:36,959 --> 02:35:40,840 Speaker 3: writing them down. Matthew Stafford and that's five. 3351 02:35:41,240 --> 02:35:43,959 Speaker 5: All right, And give me staff give me staff give 3352 02:35:44,000 --> 02:35:46,720 Speaker 5: me staff that's my top five. Who's arguing with that 3353 02:35:46,840 --> 02:35:47,240 Speaker 5: top five? 3354 02:35:47,320 --> 02:35:50,880 Speaker 3: Right now? You're telling me screaming? Right, Sam Donalds in 3355 02:35:50,920 --> 02:35:52,680 Speaker 3: the super Bowl, he's better than one of those guys. Stuff. 3356 02:35:52,680 --> 02:35:52,960 Speaker 3: All right? 3357 02:35:53,080 --> 02:35:57,000 Speaker 2: Final thoughts on this amazing Sunday. You got five hours 3358 02:35:57,080 --> 02:35:57,480 Speaker 2: next week. 3359 02:35:57,840 --> 02:35:59,120 Speaker 3: This is end Zone Radio. 3360 02:36:01,040 --> 02:36:07,959 Speaker 11: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio and Zone Radio. 3361 02:36:10,320 --> 02:36:17,000 Speaker 3: It's been quite a year VJ joined the team. 3362 02:36:17,400 --> 02:36:19,320 Speaker 4: We're here in the Fox Sports Radio studios. 3363 02:36:21,000 --> 02:36:25,039 Speaker 3: Got I'm sorry, so you joined the team this year? 3364 02:36:25,160 --> 02:36:31,360 Speaker 2: Yes, and uh, you know, obviously Chris has been here 3365 02:36:31,480 --> 02:36:35,200 Speaker 2: for a while, and Boe, our normal producer, has been 3366 02:36:35,240 --> 02:36:37,760 Speaker 2: hanging out a lot these days. We was appreciated, Shay, 3367 02:36:37,959 --> 02:36:39,240 Speaker 2: very nice to see you. 3368 02:36:39,640 --> 02:36:41,440 Speaker 5: Well, you're part of the show anyway, but you know, 3369 02:36:41,760 --> 02:36:44,360 Speaker 5: you jump into the producer seat and you know, around 3370 02:36:45,760 --> 02:36:48,440 Speaker 5: and then yeah, that's okay. 3371 02:36:49,840 --> 02:36:52,240 Speaker 7: In the off season, you know, you guys coming to me. 3372 02:36:52,560 --> 02:36:53,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. 3373 02:36:54,040 --> 02:36:56,200 Speaker 2: Well, I mean again, here's here's the one thing I 3374 02:36:56,320 --> 02:36:58,800 Speaker 2: love most about Shay is that when I when I 3375 02:37:00,520 --> 02:37:03,400 Speaker 2: tell one of my endless stories that I've repeated thousands 3376 02:37:03,480 --> 02:37:08,200 Speaker 2: of times, his total disdain is so evident it makes it. 3377 02:37:08,640 --> 02:37:11,200 Speaker 2: I love the fact that you don't pretend I really do. 3378 02:37:11,480 --> 02:37:13,920 Speaker 2: I love the fact that you're just like dude, I mean, 3379 02:37:14,040 --> 02:37:17,760 Speaker 2: I really don't. I really don't care. But you know, 3380 02:37:17,959 --> 02:37:20,240 Speaker 2: I owner's old guy. You got stories, and you've been 3381 02:37:20,280 --> 02:37:23,360 Speaker 2: around old you. But you were shocked when I told 3382 02:37:23,360 --> 02:37:26,520 Speaker 2: you I literally literally watched every super Bowl since Super 3383 02:37:26,560 --> 02:37:29,920 Speaker 2: Bowl two. No, that's why it wasn't even super Bowl too. 3384 02:37:29,959 --> 02:37:32,560 Speaker 2: It was called the AFL NFL Championship Game. They didn't 3385 02:37:32,560 --> 02:37:33,840 Speaker 2: call it Super Bowl yet. 3386 02:37:33,959 --> 02:37:37,720 Speaker 3: So you tell me that's that's back in the sixties. 3387 02:37:37,840 --> 02:37:40,080 Speaker 3: It's a long time, real fast. Yeah, I got ten 3388 02:37:40,160 --> 02:37:42,000 Speaker 3: quarterbacks better Sam Donald? Can I catch? Just roll them 3389 02:37:42,040 --> 02:37:42,440 Speaker 3: off real fast? 3390 02:37:42,440 --> 02:37:45,520 Speaker 2: Because holy Mac, I just wanted to finish the that 3391 02:37:45,640 --> 02:37:49,440 Speaker 2: when we started the season, I told you this season's 3392 02:37:49,440 --> 02:37:49,800 Speaker 2: gonna fly. 3393 02:37:50,280 --> 02:37:50,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 3394 02:37:51,120 --> 02:37:52,760 Speaker 3: I mean it's like we're just starting. 3395 02:37:53,120 --> 02:37:57,920 Speaker 2: Oh, we got eighteen weeks, seventeen regular season games, four 3396 02:37:57,959 --> 02:38:00,879 Speaker 2: weeks of playoff, and now we are one week away 3397 02:38:00,920 --> 02:38:03,680 Speaker 2: from the big game. All right, So now you've got 3398 02:38:04,160 --> 02:38:07,800 Speaker 2: now you your your season long mission to downplay Sam 3399 02:38:07,959 --> 02:38:11,480 Speaker 2: Donald because I asked you, guys, can anyone envision Sam 3400 02:38:11,640 --> 02:38:13,680 Speaker 2: Darnold hoisting the Lombardi Trophy? 3401 02:38:13,879 --> 02:38:14,920 Speaker 3: And it was unanimous. 3402 02:38:15,000 --> 02:38:17,840 Speaker 2: No, That's what I asked that question before the playoffs, 3403 02:38:18,000 --> 02:38:21,320 Speaker 2: even though Seattle was the number one seed, Nobody, nobody 3404 02:38:21,600 --> 02:38:23,959 Speaker 2: could have envisioned that. But he's one game away, all right, 3405 02:38:24,400 --> 02:38:27,320 Speaker 2: So give me every quarterback you rank ahead of Sam. 3406 02:38:27,760 --> 02:38:29,040 Speaker 3: Because you put him in the top ten. So I 3407 02:38:29,080 --> 02:38:29,400 Speaker 3: got ten. 3408 02:38:29,480 --> 02:38:35,440 Speaker 5: That's better than Okay, let's hear Mahomes Burrow Lamar, Purdy, Herbert, Baker, 3409 02:38:35,840 --> 02:38:38,560 Speaker 5: Caleb start again. 3410 02:38:38,760 --> 02:38:39,640 Speaker 3: I'm just doing SR. 3411 02:38:39,920 --> 02:38:45,199 Speaker 5: Mahomes, Mahomes go yeah, Burrow Okay, Lamar okay, Stafford okay, 3412 02:38:45,680 --> 02:38:53,160 Speaker 5: Josh Okay, Purdy yeah, Herbert yeap, Caleb yep, Baker yep. 3413 02:38:53,360 --> 02:38:56,520 Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts okay for Sam Darnold's not better than none 3414 02:38:56,560 --> 02:38:57,680 Speaker 5: of those quarterbacks. 3415 02:38:57,720 --> 02:39:01,880 Speaker 2: Of the quarterbacks because those quarterbacks you name, seven of 3416 02:39:01,959 --> 02:39:03,200 Speaker 2: them have not won super Bowls. 3417 02:39:03,360 --> 02:39:05,600 Speaker 3: Okay, seven have not won. 3418 02:39:05,640 --> 02:39:08,439 Speaker 2: The only guys who have won super Bowls are Mahomes, Stafford, 3419 02:39:08,720 --> 02:39:10,080 Speaker 2: and Hurts. 3420 02:39:10,320 --> 02:39:12,000 Speaker 3: Those are the only ones that have won super Bowls. 3421 02:39:12,600 --> 02:39:14,840 Speaker 2: So if he wins the Super Bowl, you have seven 3422 02:39:14,959 --> 02:39:17,200 Speaker 2: quarterbacks ahead of him that have never won the Super Bowl. 3423 02:39:17,520 --> 02:39:18,520 Speaker 3: So does that make any sense? 3424 02:39:18,600 --> 02:39:20,920 Speaker 5: It makes perfect sense when you guys, and it makes 3425 02:39:20,959 --> 02:39:24,120 Speaker 5: plaining because earlier this year, for two straight months, you 3426 02:39:24,240 --> 02:39:27,560 Speaker 5: guys told me I couldn't put Hurts over Josh Allen. 3427 02:39:27,760 --> 02:39:30,120 Speaker 5: Hurts has been to two and one one and outplayed the. 3428 02:39:30,160 --> 02:39:30,840 Speaker 3: Guy I had. 3429 02:39:31,000 --> 02:39:32,880 Speaker 4: I was the first guy that suggests Hurts was in 3430 02:39:32,959 --> 02:39:35,359 Speaker 4: the top top but not over Allen. 3431 02:39:35,120 --> 02:39:37,240 Speaker 5: Though I'm not saying top five. I wasn't allowed to 3432 02:39:37,280 --> 02:39:40,680 Speaker 5: put him over Allen. But he had accomplished everything we 3433 02:39:40,959 --> 02:39:43,959 Speaker 5: asked quarterbacks to do. But for some reason he can't 3434 02:39:44,000 --> 02:39:45,160 Speaker 5: be beat anything twice. 3435 02:39:45,200 --> 02:39:48,040 Speaker 2: But you're asking quarterbacks to do or win championships. How 3436 02:39:48,040 --> 02:39:51,520 Speaker 2: about winning a single playoffs game? Candidate justin Herbert still 3437 02:39:51,560 --> 02:39:52,000 Speaker 2: hasn't done. 3438 02:39:52,080 --> 02:39:55,480 Speaker 3: Josh can't even get there. Josh can't even get to 3439 02:39:55,600 --> 02:39:56,240 Speaker 3: a super Bowl. 3440 02:39:56,400 --> 02:39:59,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's won playoff games. Herbert hasn't won any. 3441 02:39:59,160 --> 02:40:00,600 Speaker 3: No, we want people to super bowls. 3442 02:40:01,840 --> 02:40:03,560 Speaker 5: One, I'm not. I know, I'm not worried aout playoff. 3443 02:40:03,640 --> 02:40:06,920 Speaker 5: I'm wry about super Bowls. And listen, if this is 3444 02:40:06,959 --> 02:40:10,320 Speaker 5: the same argument as Eli Manning Hall of Famer, you 3445 02:40:10,760 --> 02:40:13,080 Speaker 5: adamantly no, no, no, no. 3446 02:40:13,200 --> 02:40:15,760 Speaker 2: He's not because I have less guys. My hall of 3447 02:40:15,840 --> 02:40:18,280 Speaker 2: Fame is like, you know, the Tom Brady's of the 3448 02:40:18,320 --> 02:40:21,119 Speaker 2: world that Joe Montana's over. I would only have maybe 3449 02:40:21,480 --> 02:40:24,199 Speaker 2: a total of ten quarterbacks in the Hall of Fame period. 3450 02:40:24,200 --> 02:40:26,920 Speaker 2: All Right, this so Donald thirty, so Darnold playing on 3451 02:40:27,080 --> 02:40:28,920 Speaker 2: this team in one good year, God. 3452 02:40:29,000 --> 02:40:30,000 Speaker 3: Saying it's hall of famer. 3453 02:40:31,080 --> 02:40:33,160 Speaker 4: No hall of famer, but he's your priority? Is it 3454 02:40:33,240 --> 02:40:34,000 Speaker 4: winning super Bowl? 3455 02:40:34,080 --> 02:40:36,000 Speaker 5: So it's just got to be more consistent. If he 3456 02:40:36,080 --> 02:40:37,879 Speaker 5: does this another three or four years, then we could 3457 02:40:37,920 --> 02:40:38,360 Speaker 5: talk again. 3458 02:40:38,440 --> 02:40:41,280 Speaker 2: Well, then there should be only one quarterback in your list, 3459 02:40:41,400 --> 02:40:43,360 Speaker 2: is Mahomes. None of these other guys are one more 3460 02:40:43,400 --> 02:40:44,039 Speaker 2: than one super. 3461 02:40:44,040 --> 02:40:46,280 Speaker 5: It's not about winning Super Bowls. I said consistently, as 3462 02:40:46,320 --> 02:40:48,279 Speaker 5: far as putting up these type of seasons. 3463 02:40:48,040 --> 02:40:51,400 Speaker 4: You think these other effort has been consistent for eighteen years. 3464 02:40:51,760 --> 02:40:54,560 Speaker 4: Who's Matthew Stafford. He's been consistent in the last couple 3465 02:40:54,560 --> 02:40:54,880 Speaker 4: of years. 3466 02:40:55,080 --> 02:40:56,560 Speaker 3: All Right, I don't know. 3467 02:40:56,760 --> 02:40:59,199 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, where he's gonna actually get about? 3468 02:40:59,280 --> 02:41:02,119 Speaker 3: Those teams are rants? Those teams were terrible in Detroit? 3469 02:41:02,360 --> 02:41:03,480 Speaker 4: Did he have the best receivers? 3470 02:41:03,600 --> 02:41:06,000 Speaker 3: He started sixteen games? Did he year? Did he have 3471 02:41:06,040 --> 02:41:08,600 Speaker 3: the best receiver in the league at his most of 3472 02:41:08,640 --> 02:41:09,039 Speaker 3: those year? 3473 02:41:09,280 --> 02:41:13,080 Speaker 10: Take no offensive line and no running backs? 3474 02:41:13,440 --> 02:41:17,279 Speaker 3: All right, hey, bless everybody hours five hours. You'll definitely 3475 02:41:17,320 --> 02:41:20,040 Speaker 3: want to tune in next Sunday, Dan and carry her up. Next. 3476 02:41:20,120 --> 02:41:21,280 Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Radio.