WEBVTT - NINA LINH - Sealing Strength with Wontons of Wisdom

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have very

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<v Speaker 1>special guests. Nina Lynn is in the building. It's an

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<v Speaker 1>honor to have you. For you guys that aren't familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with Nina Lynn. She is a seasoned executive that founded

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<v Speaker 1>the Wonder Seed Foundation, a nonprofit that helps at risk

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<v Speaker 1>you heal from their trauma. Nina formed a bipartisan education

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<v Speaker 1>committee and took her advocacy to Capitol Hill, championing meaningful

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<v Speaker 1>education reform and legislation. Nina is now running for Congress.

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<v Speaker 2>So I am you.

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<v Speaker 1>Are officially the first person I think we've had on

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<v Speaker 1>the show that's running for Congress, which is a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>For having me. Yes, it's such a pleasure to be

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<v Speaker 2>here with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I was fascinated about wunder Seed. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>fascinated since the day we met. So it's nice to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to have you here. And you drove a

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<v Speaker 1>couple hours to be here too, so it's very nice

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<v Speaker 1>to have you here. But in addition to having you here,

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<v Speaker 1>to find out your backstory, I would love to know

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<v Speaker 1>what you're cooking for me for breakfast today.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna plug the foundation. So we're having wonder seed

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<v Speaker 2>wantons today.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Wonder seed wantons, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a staple that you know of my childhood,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was an ingredient the ingredients that sort of

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<v Speaker 2>my mother put together and created comfort food for us

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<v Speaker 2>to snack on.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. And what are the ingredients of the wonder seed wanton?

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<v Speaker 2>So today we have ground turkey that we are going

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<v Speaker 2>to saute in the pan along with a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of sugar, green onions. And the secret ingredient to any

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<v Speaker 2>Vietnamese dish is what's called fish sauce, okay. And so

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's what we use as a seasoning instead of salt, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Is it like a soy sauce or no.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I guess it's in the same family, I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's a seasoning that you can actually use

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<v Speaker 2>with soy sauce in some dishes that maybe another day

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<v Speaker 2>I'll come back and we can.

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<v Speaker 1>Ok we can do.

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<v Speaker 3>That, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you have Lonton's egg and what are those

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<v Speaker 1>other ingredients.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have once we start to step the long time,

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<v Speaker 2>we have what's called glass noodles, which is another staple

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<v Speaker 2>in the Vietnamese cuisine, and also black mushrooms.

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<v Speaker 1>And you boiled those before, right, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Boiled those before, okay, five minutes each, okay. And so

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<v Speaker 2>now we're just going to prepare. The main ingredient is

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<v Speaker 2>the meat. Okay, So we're going to put in a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of sugar.

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<v Speaker 1>I like sugar. We're starting off right, sugar and meat.

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<v Speaker 2>And the secret ingredient, which is the fish sauce.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I want to hear give me the bowl for

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<v Speaker 1>the fish sauce. I just want to like dip my

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<v Speaker 1>finger in it because curiosity. You're done with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yes, and now we're just gonna Oh it is

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<v Speaker 2>really good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's salty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we're using that instead of salt, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the egg. The egg, okay, this is different.

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<v Speaker 1>And what does the egg do is it to stick

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<v Speaker 1>it all together.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it adds taste and it adds a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of it just is something that my mother just added, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is something that we continue to use. So

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't necessarily stick it together, but it's it just

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<v Speaker 2>adds more of a taste to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. And just so you know. I think I already

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<v Speaker 1>told you off camera this dish is amazing. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>home to claim it as my own.

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<v Speaker 2>You should and whoever else is watching this, guys, this

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<v Speaker 2>is something that's special and anyone that's ever tasted this

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<v Speaker 2>can't just eat one.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I believe it. I love one times. I love

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<v Speaker 1>anything that comes in a wrapper. What is the water for?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just curious.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the water is going to we're going to we'll

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<v Speaker 2>use that for the one times the one time stick

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<v Speaker 2>together exactly, Okay, got it exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>And then so right now you're buying the meat, and

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<v Speaker 1>then all right, cool. And then I just want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>for all y'all listeners out there, I did go. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a little The only reason why I think I

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<v Speaker 1>went to Asian Market on this dish was because of

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<v Speaker 1>the glass noodles and the black mushrooms, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing where I was like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if they sell this in a regular store or if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna roll the dice, but I will say this

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<v Speaker 1>whole dish was completely affordable. Guys. This is like under

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<v Speaker 1>twenty bucks really affordable. And I'm just based on how

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<v Speaker 1>much I got for that I'm assuming this could feed

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<v Speaker 1>a family of four. Is it like appetizer? Is it meal?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it? There's snacks, there's snacks. Okay, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>snack that I would consider it an appetizer, but so

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<v Speaker 2>many times I've just eaten it as a meal.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. And then can you eat these cold?

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<v Speaker 2>You can eat them cold?

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<v Speaker 1>Really?

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<v Speaker 2>And yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so your mom would make them and they'd be

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<v Speaker 1>like in the fridge. You just go and help yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. And it's interesting because even while it's when you

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<v Speaker 2>go in, it's in the fridge and it's been sitting

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<v Speaker 2>for a while, it's still crispy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, ooh I like that. Yes, okay, so you heard

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<v Speaker 1>it here first. Nina's making all of the ingredients for us.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, this is special because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>get to do this often. It's a few years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when was the last time you made this?

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<v Speaker 2>Adolescence?

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<v Speaker 1>I had a lescens Yes, oh my gosh, back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day. So how does it making it?

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<v Speaker 2>I love to cook when I can, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>that cooking is first of all, healing for a meditative

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<v Speaker 2>for the person that's cooking, and the joy comes from

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<v Speaker 2>being able to share something that you've created and you

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<v Speaker 2>put so much care into and watching someone enjoy it

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<v Speaker 2>it's the best part.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I'm gonna enjoy it. So you have, You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a lot of fun today.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope I'm not talking this up right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure you aren't. Okay. I can look at

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<v Speaker 1>all these ingredients and know it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>great time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>What I love also is that we've never had this

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<v Speaker 1>dish on the show. That's also very exciting. You can

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<v Speaker 1>only imagine how many times I've been ramen.

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<v Speaker 2>You have never had this dish because this comes from

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<v Speaker 2>a Tonya's special. It comes from my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and it's Vietnamese, right, It's.

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<v Speaker 2>A Vanemy's dish. And so this traditionally can be cooked

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<v Speaker 2>with pork, ground pork. I don't really eat ground pork,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're substituting it with turkey and stead so you

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<v Speaker 2>can use chicken, ground pork turkey.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, I didn't know that. So take me back

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<v Speaker 1>to adolescent times. Take me all the way back to

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<v Speaker 1>that kitchen memory of your mom making this dish. What

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<v Speaker 1>does your household look like? Mom? Dad? Together? Take me back.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew what I was getting into when I came

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. Listen this dish as I'm cooking it

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<v Speaker 2>and stirring and sautag. It takes me back to a

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<v Speaker 2>household that was working class. My mother was primarily a

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<v Speaker 2>single mom, and I say that because I did have

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<v Speaker 2>a stepdad who wasn't really present. He suffered with severe alcoholism, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And so I grew up in a violent childhood. And

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<v Speaker 2>so my mother was primarily the natriarch, the center of

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<v Speaker 2>gravity in our home, the stabilizing force in our home.

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<v Speaker 2>And she even with all So she worked as a

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<v Speaker 2>single mom, as a nurse, as of course a caretaker,

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<v Speaker 2>because which is her essence, and being the extraordinary woman

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<v Speaker 2>that she is, she held down our home. And we

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<v Speaker 2>grew up in a working class family, and every dollar mattered,

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<v Speaker 2>but you wouldn't. You could never tell on the kitchen

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<v Speaker 2>table because she was such. She was mindful and strategic

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<v Speaker 2>and smart about how.

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<v Speaker 3>She spent money.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we sat and had dinner, you could never

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<v Speaker 2>tell that we were struggling, right, and every meal that

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<v Speaker 2>we had was we felt it was rich.

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<v Speaker 3>And so.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of the way that she showed her love was

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<v Speaker 2>through food.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. Yeah, Now did you know growing up though,

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<v Speaker 1>that the funds were tight or did she do that

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<v Speaker 1>in other areas? In addition too, did you not want

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<v Speaker 1>for anything? For sorta?

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<v Speaker 2>She That's a good question because as a young kid,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know that you're wanting for something. And it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't until my adolescence that I realized her journey and

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<v Speaker 2>I realized her struggle and her dedication and commitment and

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<v Speaker 2>sacrifice that she made for her children and her family

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<v Speaker 2>and to hold the family together. So as the child, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't in terms of material things, I wasn't aware

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<v Speaker 2>because quite frankly, we were my days of childhood, which

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really talk about, but they were in flight

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<v Speaker 2>or flight. It was when we would hear the car

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<v Speaker 2>pull up in the driveway, all of us would retreat

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<v Speaker 2>to our rooms because when my stepfather would come home,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't know what it was going to look like.

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<v Speaker 2>It was unpredictable. It could be he could go off

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<v Speaker 2>at a drop of a hat, so we didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>what to expect. So that was like the environment that

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in. And to have such a mother

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<v Speaker 2>that you know that she counterbalanced that.

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<v Speaker 1>So she counterbalanced that. This is where it gets difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess this next question is she's like this pillar

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<v Speaker 1>of strength, and this is your siblings are with her?

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<v Speaker 1>Or your siblings with her your stepdad? Or are they

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<v Speaker 1>with your biological dad?

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<v Speaker 2>Taking it back a little further, and this is another

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<v Speaker 2>example of her, the extraordinary woman that she is. She's

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<v Speaker 2>I'm first generation immigrants. So she came here from a

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<v Speaker 2>war torn country with three young kids in her arms. Wow, yes, alone,

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<v Speaker 2>Like she left the family and said, no, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna stay here. I'm going to go and give my

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<v Speaker 2>children a better life. And so she took that journey

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<v Speaker 2>on her own and came here and started with nothing

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<v Speaker 2>and built built a life, an extraordinary life.

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<v Speaker 1>And she did that by herself with three kids. With

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<v Speaker 1>three kids, how old was she, do you know? Like

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<v Speaker 1>in her twenties and her twenties, geez, Louise. Okay, now

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<v Speaker 1>we get the full scope of who this woman is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I couldn't even imagine, Geez that journey. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm pretty resilient. In fact, I know I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, But imagining her journey is, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's extraordinary. And so coming here three kids on her own.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just a babe in her arm literally, and oh she.

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<v Speaker 1>Had like a baby, a baby's.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had no memory of it. And she remarries

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<v Speaker 2>because my father, who I had never met past before,

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<v Speaker 2>he died in the war, so I never met him.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And so she's also dealing with grief too, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, in so many ways. Yeah, in so many ways.

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<v Speaker 1>She's also like flight, fight or flight two in a

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<v Speaker 1>sense to write, I would is that what you would

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<v Speaker 1>consider fight.

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<v Speaker 2>It deep into it. But I think much and I

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<v Speaker 2>think I get this from her. There's three versions. So

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<v Speaker 2>when you deal with trauma, there's a fight, flight, or flee.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's a fighter and so am I. And not

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<v Speaker 2>to say that those that flee or freeze that there's

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<v Speaker 2>no judgment in that. It's just it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But with the two of us, it's it's all about

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<v Speaker 2>the fight.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought, we're dealing with trauma. It's when they

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<v Speaker 1>say fight or flight, that means when the person is

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<v Speaker 1>faced with something heavy, they choose one or the other.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that there. It means like their typical

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<v Speaker 1>response would lean towards one or the other. Say, every

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<v Speaker 1>time you deal with a trump traumatic or a big situation,

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<v Speaker 1>you choose to fight or is it like in that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>you choose one or the options.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really good question, and I think in most

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<v Speaker 2>circumstances many it's usually one that you're that you default to. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't mean that it doesn't cause an arrested development,

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<v Speaker 2>right or what an arrested development? So the wonderstate our

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<v Speaker 2>theory of change is that unaddressed trauma equals emotional dysregulation,

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<v Speaker 2>and emotional dysregulation is the root cause of a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the issues that we have in our society, and

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<v Speaker 2>meaning that from a neuroscience perspective, when you do not

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<v Speaker 2>deal with trauma, it can cause an arrested development in

0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.880
<v Speaker 2>the executive decision making part of the brain. And that

0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:14.000
<v Speaker 2>part of the brain is critical thinking, it's emotional regulation,

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<v Speaker 2>it's your relationship skills, your communication skills, your cognitive abilities

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<v Speaker 2>to remember, retain information, process information. And so that that's

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<v Speaker 2>what we call unaddressed trauma is when that happens, and

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<v Speaker 2>arrested development happens.

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<v Speaker 1>And arrested development means that get locked into that age

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<v Speaker 1>and they can't proceed at a normal level. What does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean that's.

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<v Speaker 2>A great question. So yes, it gets emotionally, you get

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<v Speaker 2>locked in to you emotionally, I would say, let me

0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.800
<v Speaker 2>just back up. Not necessarily locked in, but it causes

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<v Speaker 2>a slower evolution, okay, and in some cases, in more

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<v Speaker 2>severe cases, it does lock you in emotionally, okay. And

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<v Speaker 2>so when you you know, and it comes out in

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<v Speaker 2>so many ways. It comes out in how you show

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<v Speaker 2>up in relationships, whether it's in a personal romantic relationship

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<v Speaker 2>or a friendship, or even in work. And it also

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<v Speaker 2>affects how you are able to thrive or not in school,

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<v Speaker 2>in work. And so we have a lot of our

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<v Speaker 2>young folks that they when they go and they get

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<v Speaker 2>a job, they can't keep that job, or they can't

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<v Speaker 2>excel in a job or grow in any position because

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<v Speaker 2>they can't deal with stress, right, because of that emotional

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<v Speaker 2>arrested development. And so what we do is we help

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<v Speaker 2>to stimulate all of our curriculum. The technology that we

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<v Speaker 2>use helps to stimulate that part of the brain. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can think of it as brain training.

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<v Speaker 1>And then how long, And I know we're dropping all over.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't mean to fast forward a wonder seed. Wait

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into wonder seed. Let's back up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. We're going to go back to the fight,

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<v Speaker 1>flight or flee. Your answer to that question was that

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<v Speaker 1>basically they typically go to one one response over the other.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you give me a quick definition of fight flight

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<v Speaker 1>or fee or flee?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, If one is going to respond with fight you,

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<v Speaker 2>that means that you know that you will act out

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<v Speaker 2>outward towards the issue or confront the issue. And that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't necessarily mean it's always healthy. Right. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of young kids that they fight and they get defensive,

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<v Speaker 2>but and that leads them down a path that's worse.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you have those that are that freeze. And

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<v Speaker 2>when you freeze you that means that you suppress a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of issues. You suppress a lot of fear, anxiety, depression, trauma,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it comes out in other ways. It comes

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<v Speaker 2>out in substance, abuse, comes out in acting out, going

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<v Speaker 2>down the wrong path, violence.

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<v Speaker 1>Et cetera. Is that the flea one that's.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that would be flea and that would be no,

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<v Speaker 2>that would.

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<v Speaker 1>Be freeze freeze. Oh, there's freeze. There's a thing called

0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:40.440
<v Speaker 1>fight flight. Oh, fight flight or freeze? Okay, Okay, I'm

0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.840
<v Speaker 1>messing up the language. Okay, so that's freeze. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>the freeze is when they probably find other ways to cope, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you're saying exactly. And then now flight, what's flight.

0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:56.199
<v Speaker 2>That you just run from? It? You avoid, So it

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<v Speaker 2>goes into avoidance avoidant behavior sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, could I be wrong, but it's fight always have

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<v Speaker 1>to be like a physical or a verbal altercation? Or

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<v Speaker 1>can it be like a problem solving problem shooting because

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<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with the problem head on, no feelings, right.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there's two versions of.

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<v Speaker 1>That, okay, okay, Yeah, So I take it you and

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<v Speaker 1>your mom was the the version of I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>take on this confrontation and I'm going to problem solve.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're saying, Because I look at you,

0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:29.880
<v Speaker 1>you have a crazy resume. I look at your mom,

0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:32.600
<v Speaker 1>crazy resume. It has to be a problem solving in

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<v Speaker 1>that fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't always that way it is now, and I grew

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<v Speaker 2>into that. But when I was a young adolescent, I

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<v Speaker 2>was angry, Okay, I was I was rebellious, and it

0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:47.680
<v Speaker 2>was all about fight, as I mentioned earlier, not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>the healthiest way. And so as I grew and became

0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:57.399
<v Speaker 2>more emotionally intelligent. It came, it became more problem solving,

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<v Speaker 2>solution focused.

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you get How did you and your

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<v Speaker 1>mom evolve into emotional intelligence? Did you guys have to

0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:12.560
<v Speaker 1>read books or study or analyze yourselves therapy? I'm sorry, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm genuinely curious.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that some of us are born like IQ EQ, right,

0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:23.200
<v Speaker 2>because emotional intelligence is EQ. Some of us are born

0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:28.359
<v Speaker 2>with higher levels of EQ, IQ, et cetera. But the

0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.760
<v Speaker 2>beauty of EQ is that you can actually learn it

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<v Speaker 2>and you can grow it. And I believe that I

0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:44.720
<v Speaker 2>was always I always had a certain insight into behavior

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<v Speaker 2>and the human psychology and deep empathy. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>came from just being an EmPATH of just understanding and

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<v Speaker 2>feeling other people's traumas and dramas. And I think most

0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:01.320
<v Speaker 2>of it comes from my own journey, right. The deepening

0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:04.119
<v Speaker 2>of my empathy comes from my own journey about the

0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.399
<v Speaker 2>things that I went through and what my family went through,

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<v Speaker 2>and being able to say, Okay, I can relate to that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and so what do I do with that? And the

0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:19.440
<v Speaker 2>rule that I've always been taught is the golden.

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<v Speaker 1>Rule what's that that.

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<v Speaker 2>You treat others the way that you want to be treated?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that rule, but I live and die

0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:26.040
<v Speaker 1>by that rule.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And so if you know that someone is in

0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:32.680
<v Speaker 2>pain or if someone is acting out, the most important

0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:36.040
<v Speaker 2>thing is to understand that it's not about you that

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<v Speaker 2>don't take it personally. And once you step outside of that,

0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:43.199
<v Speaker 2>you can actually see what the root cause of what

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<v Speaker 2>their issues are and to be able to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>that person in a way that you're not emotionally connected.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, it's brilliant. So I want to get you

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<v Speaker 1>closer to me. I see you brown them? Or what's

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<v Speaker 1>the next step in your dish? You're getting calls to

0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:04.840
<v Speaker 1>sit in next to me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I just put in the green onions.

0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, it looks beautiful. And is this where you make the.

0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:16.040
<v Speaker 2>This is so this is where I'm going to make

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<v Speaker 2>the one time. So I'm going to now start to stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, hair, let's switch plates. I'll take your red meat

0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:25.720
<v Speaker 1>plate here? Do you need this yet? It all right?

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<v Speaker 1>So back to your story. Okay, did you have did

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<v Speaker 1>you were you torn as an adolescent in regards to

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<v Speaker 1>your stepfather? Because you do have the EmPATH in you.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you torn because you knew that he was battling

0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:49.360
<v Speaker 1>some demons? Or did you just put him in the

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<v Speaker 1>unsaved category?

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<v Speaker 2>You have the best questions. Oh my gosh. So the

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<v Speaker 2>answer to that is, as an adolescent, I didn't know

0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 2>any better. My brain is still developing. I'm all I'm

0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:12.720
<v Speaker 2>concerned about. Is this man that's hurting my mother. That's

0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:15.960
<v Speaker 2>what I see, and I see him as danger like

0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:23.359
<v Speaker 2>away from that. So it wasn't until my years of

0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:28.879
<v Speaker 2>learning and understanding and growing and evolving was to see

0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:34.280
<v Speaker 2>him as someone that was in deep pain. But in

0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:37.040
<v Speaker 2>my mind, still in my mind, that doesn't give you

0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:39.720
<v Speaker 2>permission to her others.

0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Nope, especially not my mama. That's right now. And he

0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:49.480
<v Speaker 1>was physically violent with her. He was okay, wow, she's

0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:53.040
<v Speaker 1>juggling a lot. And then you have older siblings. I

0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:54.840
<v Speaker 1>take it you're the youngest because you were the baby.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was the middle child.

0:22:57.840 --> 0:22:59.399
<v Speaker 1>You were the middle and you were the baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, the middle child. So my mother did have another

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:11.960
<v Speaker 2>daughter in her second marriage who was my absolute best

0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:18.840
<v Speaker 2>friend and I absolutely adored her, and unfortunately she's no

0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:22.199
<v Speaker 2>longer with us, and so that that was part of

0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:25.760
<v Speaker 2>my journey and part of my mother's journey, and as

0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:29.920
<v Speaker 2>a mother myself, I can never imagine losing a child.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you use her in your older adult life or younger.

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<v Speaker 2>My young adult life? Oh my gosh, I'm like all

0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:41.399
<v Speaker 2>in the stories.

0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, go ahead, like these ones are fat. You got

0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:50.240
<v Speaker 1>to put a little sprinkle on there. I guess maybe

0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I should have got you bigger wanton.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so, I think so. But it's okay, Well

0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:59.240
<v Speaker 2>we'll make it. Maybe it, We'll make some wanting. This

0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 2>is what not do. I'm going to be creative here.

0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Go for it. I want a big one.

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Solution focus, right, a solution focus?

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<v Speaker 1>So at what point, so you're going you are dealing

0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:14.160
<v Speaker 1>with your sister, the loss of your sister. Your mom

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:17.800
<v Speaker 1>is coping, is your At what point does your mom

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>and your step father separate?

0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:25.439
<v Speaker 2>Teenage years?

0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yes, you were relieved at that point, of course. Okay,

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:36.440
<v Speaker 1>of course. And your older siblings during this whole upbringing

0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:41.639
<v Speaker 1>that you're going through, do you find solace in them?

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes? My brother and I are very close. Okay, he

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 2>doesn't live here, he lives in a different state, but

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:50.280
<v Speaker 2>he and I are very close. We're very different, but

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:57.440
<v Speaker 2>very close. And my older sister also transitioned about a

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 2>year after my younger sister, or sorry, a year before

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 2>my younger sister. That's a lot, Yeah, it's a lot.

0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I want to ask, but I think I'm gonna

0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:15.160
<v Speaker 1>skip the curiosity there just for a second. That's a lot,

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:17.360
<v Speaker 1>to be honest, that's a lot. I'm assuming this isn't

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 1>because of disease, right.

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, we can skip that part. Okay, but yeah,

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:26.240
<v Speaker 2>it was, it was, and it's again we all have

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 2>our journey and the beauty of it is that they

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 2>their passing was not in vain.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this where wonder seat starts to take place?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:44.159
<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe this was because you can start to

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 1>see the pivotal you can start to see the what

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 1>do you?

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 2>But the spirit spiritual journey began.

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:54.200
<v Speaker 1>The spiritual journey began after these that's.

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Right, the spiritual journey began, the spiritual awakening again.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay. And at this point, are you in college

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<v Speaker 1>or are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Do?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what you're gonna you're pursuing.

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 2>So studying of all things political science?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 2>I never thought that I would be where I am today,

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 2>which is the irony of it all.

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 2>So I went through that path and then I ended

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 2>up for love. I ended up in Chicago, okay. And

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:27.359
<v Speaker 2>Chicago brought about my son.

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:28.399
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the birth of my son, okay. And so that

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 2>was the beginning of this journey that has taken me,

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 2>that's led me to wonder seed.

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, So after having your son, that's when wonder seed

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 1>starts to formalize in your mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Not until eighteen years later.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighteen years later, Yes, Now, I know you have a

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 1>background in the entertainment business. I didn't mention it. But

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 1>during prior to one Seed, is that where you were

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 1>in entertainment? Or are you? Can you fill me in

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 1>this gap?

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 2>I could fill you in, but I'm not feeling in

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:11.240
<v Speaker 2>the one times.

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<v Speaker 1>No, what do you need?

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 2>They're falling apart.

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 3>You got this okay, Okay, I'm hungry.

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to try it.

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, I'm not doing this.

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>You got this?

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's talk.

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:31.439
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So I'm trying to I'm trying to inch towards

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:34.879
<v Speaker 1>wonder seed. So how does wonder seed come about?

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 2>So wonder seed is the third iteration of my lifetime.

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:42.679
<v Speaker 2>So I had this rich life in the entertainment industry.

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Behind the scenes, we had a couple three shows on air.

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 2>We had a boutique music and management company which with

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 2>notable artists that you've probably heard of. And at this

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:57.719
<v Speaker 2>time life was good. I was married, my son was

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 2>so happy. He grew up with the great life which

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:05.199
<v Speaker 2>is and so life happened, went through a divorce, and

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:09.640
<v Speaker 2>it was devastating for him, and it was his it

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:16.199
<v Speaker 2>was his version of trauma. And I, as much as

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 2>I thought I knew, I had no idea that it

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 2>would affect him the way that it did. And so

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:27.920
<v Speaker 2>he went to seeing our home life turned upside down

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 2>was devastating to him because the three of us were tight,

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 2>We're really close, and and he it was hard on him.

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 2>And during this time he decided because I was an

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 2>emotional wreck. I was I was going battling with my

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 2>best friend in an entire world. And he decided that

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 2>he wanted to go to prep school for his last year.

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 2>And I thought, wow, that's a great idea because it's

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 2>an empowering decision, is his decision, and I will supp

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 2>and he'll be away from the drama y And so

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 2>he goes to the East Coast and mind you. He

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 2>was a d one guy, the type of kid that

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 2>would leave drugs, leave parties when other kids were doing drugs.

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Just a gentle giant, just a good soul, and protect

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 2>other kids that were being bullied. That's the type of

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 2>kid that he was. So he goes away, gets a

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 2>career ending injury. Home life turned upside down, and some

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 2>kid down there, he's in an incredibly vulnerable state, and

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 2>some kid down there say, hey, try this. He tried

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 2>marijuana and he liked it, and he came back to

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 2>California and at the time, miracle marijuana was just becoming legal,

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 2>and you had a lot of these shady pop up meals,

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 2>prescription meals that popped up everywhere. And he went and

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 2>got a prescription and went to a dispensary and someone

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>introduced him to a thing called dab. And if nothing

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 2>else that parents are aware of this drug. It is

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 2>a highly concentrated version of THHC, artificial with other chemicals,

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 2>a host of other chemicals, unregulated, and it sent him

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 2>into a state of psychosis. And so it literally broke

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 2>his brain. And I was in a rabbit hole with

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 2>him for about two and a half years trying to

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 2>figure out how does psychoactive drugs i e. Marijuana affect

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 2>the developing brain. There wasn't a lot of studies on it.

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 2>And so with that said, we have this potency of

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 2>eighty percent. So when you and I were kids, the

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 2>potency was probably seven eight percent. So you can think

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 2>about that, right, think about that number, eighty percent. And

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 2>so I went on this journey and there wasn't a

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>lot lot of studies at the time. Insurance companies were

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 2>They didn't view marijuana as an addictive drug, saw it

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 2>as something that was benign. And thank god it's changed now,

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I think now because since the opening of a lot

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 2>of these shops and the type of chemicals that they're

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 2>putting into the product, it's flooded. Our systems are our site,

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 2>cycle site, Oh my gosh. Our hospitals, our treatment homes

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 2>are jails with young primarily young adolescent men and that

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 2>that are mimicking signs of delusions erratic behavior. So yes,

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 2>and my gosh, it's so hot.

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. We could take a do you want to

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 1>take a second? Okay, yeah, go for it. All right, guys,

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>we are officially back. There was a lot more cooking

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 1>than Nina had to do and prepping with these wantons.

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I even got in it and started making some wantons.

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna claim all the great wantons. Nah, I

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 1>can't do that. I can't do that. But let's go

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 1>ahead and try these. Let's go ahead. I took a

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>little nibble of the meat. I'm dying to try one.

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, let's go memory lane. Here we go, nice

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and crispy. These fried in like seconds. I felt like, right,

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>they fried.

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Really two minutes? Oh my god, it takes me back

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 2>so good.

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, are delicious?

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Have you got? I'm sure they're hearing the crunch right then.

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>And I get the rice noodles now, So I asked,

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, if the meat and everything stays so great,

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 1>why do we have the rice noodles if they're plain?

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 1>And I get it because it balances out the taste

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and the texture. And I'm still trying to figure out

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>the black mushroom or the.

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Press black mushroom also known as fun Guy super healthy

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 2>for you.

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm reading my whole wan tong, and yes, we will

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>be fighting behind the scenes over the last bed bup.

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 2>You can't just have one.

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>If I had these in my fridge, they will last

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>exactly about two hours now, I would be going back.

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 2>And forth and we spoke about it. It's really good.

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 2>It's just as good cold so.

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Late it does, let me tell you, outstanding, superb. One

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>of the top dishes on eating while broke is the

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 1>wonder Seed. Wanton. All right, we started talking about we're gonna,

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna come back into the conversation on kind of

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 1>the foundation of what was a foundation to you starting

0:33:56.560 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Wonder Seed, and we know that your son's what happened

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>with your son played probably a more pivotal role, it

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>sounds like into it was.

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 2>The very inspiration Wow, that drove me to create an underseed.

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 2>And the reason why is because when as I was

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 2>going through my journey to try to find a solution,

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:28.280
<v Speaker 2>I was told that there wasn't one, and so I

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 2>found one. I created one. And I wanted to find

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:38.320
<v Speaker 2>a solution that was preventative and could help other families

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 2>and other young young folks to deal with their emotional dysregulation.

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 2>So it was my son's emotional dysregulation that caused him

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:52.839
<v Speaker 2>to go down this path to experiment with drugs, and

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 2>so my goal was to find an alternative that was

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 2>that was able to speak the language of our youth,

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 2>and that has a lot to do with technology. So

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 2>technology is the center of how we disperse our programs.

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 2>So we use immersive environments so VR based programming that

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:22.479
<v Speaker 2>is quite frankly and inspired by an innovation lab that's

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 2>ran by one of my board members, a brilliant clinical psychology,

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 2>a psychiatrist by the name of doctor Albert skip Rousseau,

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 2>and he is the executive director for the Institute of

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Creative Technologies at USC and it was his technology that

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 2>inspired this journey, and so he was using medical VR.

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 2>He's like the godfather and grandfather of medical VR. So

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:57.280
<v Speaker 2>I say I say godfather because he would prefer godfather

0:35:57.520 --> 0:36:00.400
<v Speaker 2>because he wants he doesn't want to tell his age.

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 2>But he was the one, the visionary that started medical

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 2>VR way back in the early nineties.

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Yes before it became a popular.

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, And so he was contracted with the military to

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 2>treat PTSD and in vets through exposure therapy. And so

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 2>basically I looked at that technology and we created something

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 2>pretty spectacular from it, and it's we have seen our

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 2>programming just changed lives. And so I grew wonder seed

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 2>from humble beginnings where I was told, no one's going

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 2>to understand this technology, no one knows who you are,

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 2>You're not going to get funded. And so now we

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 2>are in three different cities in three different states.

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Wow. And you were able to get the funding all

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 1>on your own. Absolutely wow. Yes, and you got the

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Godfather on your board.

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 2>That's right, Which that's you know, that's right.

0:36:57.000 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I love that your protests to think preventative versus looking

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 1>at the I guess the end goal. You said, Okay,

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>we're going to take a step. What was the call?

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 1>In Christianity? We say the sin behind the sin? That's

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>what I learned interested. But I love that you took

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:16.240
<v Speaker 1>that route and created such impactful organization. The night we met,

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 1>you had said something that really stuck out, which was

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna have to tell the numbers because I

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 1>will butcher them, but you talked about how much money

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>can be saved in America right now if we treated

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 1>preventative trauma or trauma, preventative treatment of trauma. Can you

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 1>talk about that just for just a second.

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So mental health is the root cause, as I mentioned,

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:48.799
<v Speaker 2>to a lot of the issues that we deal with.

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:52.239
<v Speaker 2>So in every dollar that we invest in mental health,

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 2>we get eleven dollars back, right, and we see that

0:37:55.320 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 2>we will see billions of dollars annually back through our

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 2>medical system, our healthcare system, our workforce pipeline, our economy

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 2>as a whole, including our justice system. And so when

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:16.800
<v Speaker 2>you have all of these systems that are being flooded

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 2>in every sector, and if we address the root cause

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 2>in advance, that we're able to mitigate a lot of

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 2>those issues and costs.

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I thought that was really interesting. I was like, WHOA,

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>that's deep. That's deep. People don't think about it like

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 1>that because we're always treating the problem and not the

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 1>going back to what I said, like the root cause

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 1>of the problem. So I thought that was fascinating. Now

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I would like to eventually at some point get down

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 1>to Orange County and try a VR set because I

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>have questions around wonder seat. But because of time, I

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about what transpire to get you to

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 1>take us into pursuing congress.

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:10.280
<v Speaker 2>So about three years ago, one of my board members

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 2>came to me. He was hiring executive positions and he

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 2>saw the discrepancy between black and brown resumes and white

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 2>and Asian resumes and he asked, what is this, And

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 2>of course, wonder seat is all about the root cause

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 2>and understanding that the lack of higher education from our

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 2>minority kids has a lot to do with access. It

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:38.720
<v Speaker 2>has a lot to do or lack of access with trauma,

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:43.839
<v Speaker 2>unaddressed trauma, and so just all around socioeconomic issues. And

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 2>so we as just me being me, and this is

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:52.359
<v Speaker 2>something that is really close to my heart and understanding

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 2>and knowing that education is foundational to everything, whether it

0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:02.840
<v Speaker 2>is a life meaning full, a purposeful life with dignity,

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 2>a meaningful job, a mental health, physical health, et cetera.

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:11.280
<v Speaker 2>It all starts with having a strong foundation of education.

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:16.760
<v Speaker 2>And so I helped to create a co found an

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 2>education subcommittee for think Tank that's based in Chicago, and

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 2>we dropped it a federal education bill that is really comprehensive.

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 2>It covers everything from adequacy funding to addressing each and

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:35.719
<v Speaker 2>every child's needs and also empowering our teachers because the

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.879
<v Speaker 2>teachers are in the front line and education is only

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:42.400
<v Speaker 2>as good as the teachers right teach it and making

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:50.800
<v Speaker 2>sure that everything from facilities to modern technology to emotional intelligence,

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 2>all of these things to be addressed and making sure

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:58.280
<v Speaker 2>that there's funding for that. And I advocated this bill

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 2>on our hill on the capital deal, with our friends

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 2>and on both sides, because my committee is bipartisan, and

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:13.319
<v Speaker 2>we really got close to a balanced solution, and the

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:19.879
<v Speaker 2>House philipped and things stalled. And knowing that this administration

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:27.399
<v Speaker 2>that's in, that's whose eyes are about dismantling the Department

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 2>in Education, and so that was so a mentor of mine,

0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 2>that is the former congressman that also sits on the

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 2>board with me, that has a rich history, rich roots

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:47.720
<v Speaker 2>in education, asked me to run. And so I initially

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 2>I said no, absolutely not. And then fast forward, the

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:56.239
<v Speaker 2>new administration came in and we knew what was going

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:58.799
<v Speaker 2>to happen and that they had their eyes set on

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 2>destroying the Department of Education. And he asked again, and

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:07.480
<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm at a different place in my life

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:10.920
<v Speaker 2>and let me consider it. And so I went on

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:14.880
<v Speaker 2>a listening tour. So I opened up a a committee,

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 2>and I went on a listening tour and I spoke

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 2>to everyone, just the people on the ground. I spoke

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 2>to veterans, I spoke to students, I spoke to teachers.

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 2>I spoke with mothers and grandmothers, and just everyday people.

0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 2>And I spoke to all parties, Democrats, Republicans, independents, and

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:40.800
<v Speaker 2>they were all singing the same song. The tune was

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:42.879
<v Speaker 2>a little different, but the lyrics were the same. And

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 2>when it was when I had an interaction with a

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 2>grandmother's Latina grandmother. She wasn't much older than you and I.

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 2>She was a young grandmother's two grandchildren young and one

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 2>of them had a disability, and she was pat provide

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 2>that she wouldn't have insurance for the kids, and she

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 2>was crying. And I found myself holding this woman and

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 2>I got emotional. And when I spoke to her and

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I helped to explain, listen, this is a moment in time,

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<v Speaker 2>and yes it's precarious moment, and yes it's a dark moment,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's an opportunity for us to really create something

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<v Speaker 2>better than what we had, and we need to keep

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<v Speaker 2>hope alive because without that there is nothing. And that

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<v Speaker 2>really resonated with her, and I saw her compose herself

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<v Speaker 2>and she was like, you're right, and thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>giving me hope. And it was that moment that I said, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>That's beautiful. I'm glad you did. You're a go getter.

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<v Speaker 1>You've set your mind on under seed, you've set your

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<v Speaker 1>mind on You're a fighter.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to see you in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Seat, Thank you, thank you. We have to get back

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<v Speaker 2>to people policy.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, now that you're in the seat, what is

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<v Speaker 1>probably some of the hardest things you've had to deal with?

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<v Speaker 2>If when we're time traveling January twenty seven, I would

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<v Speaker 2>say that because there's a lot that could happen between

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<v Speaker 2>now and then. There's a lot that's happened in the

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<v Speaker 2>last eight months, especially with this big, beautiful bill of betrayal,

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<v Speaker 2>and so there's a lot to be said.

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<v Speaker 1>I like how you're warded that, but there's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot to be said or and a lot to be

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<v Speaker 2>seen between now and then. But what I would hope

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<v Speaker 2>to see is our country getting back to the middle,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's where most of us are, and I feel

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<v Speaker 2>that our voices have been hijacked.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And as much as some people don't want to hear it,

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<v Speaker 2>in order for sustainability of our nation, for healing, and

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<v Speaker 2>for smart policies to really make a difference, we need

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<v Speaker 2>bipartisanship to make it happen. Yeah, and my hope is

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<v Speaker 2>that some of my colleagues quote unquote soon to be

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<v Speaker 2>colleagues in Congress between now and then, have the courage

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<v Speaker 2>to stand up for what's right and because quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>if you are more interested in keeping the job than

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<v Speaker 2>doing the job, you shouldn't be there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like the best clothes out right there. That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. I appreciate you taking time out of your

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<v Speaker 1>day and your hectic schedule to come and cook wantons

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<v Speaker 1>and to share with us some of your backstory and

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<v Speaker 1>letting us get to know who you are and who

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<v Speaker 1>Nina Lynn is as a young person to where you

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<v Speaker 1>are now. And I love everything you're doing for the community.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, and I really am honored to be here

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<v Speaker 2>with you, and I'm happy that we have this moment

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<v Speaker 2>that we're sharing together. And I think that you're pretty

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<v Speaker 2>fabulous and I can't wait to see what your next

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<v Speaker 2>steps are.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this much. I'm going home and to finish

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<v Speaker 1>making recites wantons. Thanks for tuning in, y'all. I will

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<v Speaker 1>be eating my way out, piece out, and then where

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<v Speaker 1>can everybody keep up with Nina.

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<v Speaker 2>Lynn Wonder Seed Foundation, So Wonderseafoundation, dot org. Please check

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<v Speaker 2>us out, contribute to the work, help empower us, empower

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<v Speaker 2>our youth, and then find me on my social media

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<v Speaker 2>your handle so Nina lynn CA forty. You'll find me

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram, Blue Sky, Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok, Facebook, and it's Nina l I n h.

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<v Speaker 2>C A as in California forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Nina l I and h c A forty. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, got your there first. Peace out guys, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for tuning in peace