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Here you are 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:24.960 listening to Red Table Talk via Stephens Podcast, all your 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:29.160 favorite episodes from our Facebook watch show in audio. They 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:34.600 make sure that you know that you are the darkest one. Colorism, 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:38.360 the disturbing truth. We don't talk about my grandmo Let say, 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.280 don't go outside and don't darken on my family. And 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:44.040 I still get emotional right now because you think I'm 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:48.000 a kid. Afro Latinos speak out about the discrimination they 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:55.560 face within their own community because whatever it is, it 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:59.720 doesn't look like me. Our culture secret exposed at the 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.600 Red Table. A lot of us are very hypocrite. Why 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:08.079 why there is racism? Don't pretend to like us and 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:20.560 really not like us. Latino that is a term that 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:24.639 unites all Latinos, regardless of nationality or skin color. It's 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.600 about a shared culture and a sense of belonging. But 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:31.359 let's be clear, being Latino is not a race. There 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:35.600 are black Latinos, white Latinos in every shade in between. 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.840 One in four US Hispanics identify as Afro Latino and 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:44.120 two thirds of Hispanics with darker skin colors report discrimination. 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:49.080 Common yet racist phrases such as major rasa or improving 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:53.880 the race encouraged generations of Latinos to value European features 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:57.919 and skin tone. One survey showed that of dark skinned 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:05.600 individuals were viewed as lesson intelligent and therefore less worthy. 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:15.200 Len go what case is self? This is what colorism 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:18.440 looks like. It may not be something we want to acknowledge, 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.040 but that's exactly why we wanted to bring it to 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:25.760 the table. We cannot know what it's like to be 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.640 in the skin of darker Latinos because we were born 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:33.240 like this. In Latino families, you can have someone with 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.800 very dark skin, you could have someone with very light skin, 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.680 and they can be brother and sister. That dynamic within 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.800 the family can cause your family to treat you different. 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.280 People looking from the outside to treat you different. Which 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.360 is why we need to use this platform to amplify 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.360 this issue because I don't know what that feels like. 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:54.000 It breaks my heart to think that after Latinos feel 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:58.200 racism in their own family. Because you think of racism 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.320 as a general thing in society, we need happens in 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:05.560 your own family is very difficult. Is that feeling of 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:10.800 being the trauma of being oppressed. As humans, we tend 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:14.840 to get close to what makes us comfortable, and sometimes 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:18.080 we treat different as less then, and that is one 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.680 of the biggest issues in the world. This is something 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:22.720 that needs to be gutted from the inside out because 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.400 they're dealing with things in their life that we will 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.600 never know merely as a result of the color of 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.880 their skin. Here we go, girls. Caramo is best known 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.520 as the culture expert on the hit show Queer Eye, 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.880 which I love. But what you may not know is 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.960 that Cadamo's grandmother was Cuban. For most of his life, 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.600 he rejected his Latin roots because of the racism he 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:47.520 felt within his own family. Welcome to the table, baby, 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:54.560 I am loving this sweater right now. Appreciate so much 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:58.320 trying to be a little sexy and your grandma's Cuban. 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.880 I'm inted helping Maka yes Ja Jamaica. Yeah. And she 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.360 uh lighter, Yes, she she was, but she was lighter 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:10.359 growing up. I felt very embarrassed even today, to be honest, 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:12.440 talking to the producers and talking to people every time 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.000 they refer to me as Afro Latino or Latino. I 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:18.120 get very uncomfortable still to this thing something it's very new. 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:22.719 Your Latino family did not accept you. Not accept sounds deliberate. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.039 I don't think they understood what they were doing, but 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:31.880 it was this subliminal, unconscious, internalized racism that was in them. 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.839 Do you feel like within your family, if somebody's lighter, 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:36.920 you know, they'll joke and be like, oh, you know, 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:38.960 because you're the darker one and I'm the lighter one. 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:42.280 And that of course, of course, for me, playing outside 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:47.160 as a kid was nerve wracking because my grandmo would say, 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.920 don't go outside and don't darken up my family. Don't 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.080 darken up my family. Don't darken up my family. So 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.679 I would not go outside until after five pm because 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:56.839 then the sun would be less. And I still get 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:01.279 emotional right now because you think, I'm a kid and 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.239 I should not have to be thinking about not going 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.920 outside and playing because I don't want to get darker. 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.640 So that my grandmother doesn't say a comment. Maybe she 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.279 even thought she was trying to protect it, and that's 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:18.840 what it was, and that it was going to be 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:22.039 better for you to be lighter. Her intention was to 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.400 protect me to to try to say things that she 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.600 thought was going to help me. But the impact is 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.599 that it destroyed me emotionally. But it also made me 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:34.400 feel like I wasn't connected to my culture intentions. Impact 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:40.080 is huge. My family is to say, oh, your nose, 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.599 and my grandmother, even my mother would squeeze my nose. 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.040 But it was because it's more My nose is more African, 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.640 my nose is more black. And for many years I 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.000 kept saying to myself, I need a nose, y'all. I 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:56.000 did not know where that internalized hatred I had for 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.279 myself was coming from your drama. I mean, we don't 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.560 realize it, but you know it starts with the family 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:04.440 that people around you. You know, like those experiences are 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:06.599 going to mark you for the rest of your life. 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:08.960 I'm the only boy. I have sisters, and they range 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.440 from very light to I have one sister who's the 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:15.360 darkenst and her treatment was the worst. The reason that 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.840 I am the person on queer Eye that has the 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:22.120 emotional and mental conversations is because I understand the trauma 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.600 and damage where maybe and not to discount my sisters 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:30.200 who are lighter, they didn't experience because they were well, Nita, 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.960 there were all these things that were for me. I 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:42.440 didn't hear those things as often. But you're gorgeous. Have 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.080 you ever been told that you couldn't possibly be lat 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.800 you know, because you're black? Yes, it wasn't even a question. 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.120 It's I meanly like, no, no, no, you're Jamaican. There's 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.480 no Cuban and it's an easy way just to dismiss 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.440 me and discriminate me. That's why I love what you're 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.440 doing here, because there's so many people who are going 0:07:56.480 --> 0:08:00.000 to watch you hear this for the first time and say, oh, 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.760 this is a problem. Maybe I shouldn't be making these comments. 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.240 And so what I love about this conversation is that 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:09.080 for those individuals who are experiencing their mental health, their 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:12.040 emotional health being damaged, this is a moment where you 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.600 can understand that you are beautiful as you are. Because 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:16.800 it's a journey that I'm going on right now to 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.880 love myself because of the internalized racism that I heard 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.320 and experienced from my Latin side, and I started to say, 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.360 I have to build myself back up conversations like this 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:29.520 where I look at you all and you look like 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.880 people my family and you're affirming me for the first time. 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.720 It's like, Okay, I'm getting chills, I'm getting emotional. It's 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:39.199 like I feel included. You have to go through a 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:43.640 process after trauma to understand it, to turn it into 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.400 something meaningful, to then be able to help somebody else. 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:48.760 You don't just live like this, go through trauma and 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.840 then oh, sure, I'm fine, I'm unaffected by love to 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:55.160 build that time, however, you change it with your sons. 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.199 I tell them the skin is gorgeous. The darker it's beautiful. 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:00.480 I want to make sure they hear it, and I 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.320 realize it's important the language I have in my home. 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:08.080 I no longer allow other family members, cousins, aunt's, uncle's, 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.319 anyone to make comments to my kids and me to 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.640 walk away. It's important for me now to be respectful 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.800 of my family, especially those who are older, but to 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.319 also say, this is why that is hurtful, this is 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:23.320 why it is damaging, and this is why I'm hoping 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.160 we can talk about why you think that's okay to say, 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.079 and how you changing that could actually make us a stronger. 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:33.720 Fact because a stronger because they don't but they're comparing. 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:36.640 There's something I say to people all the time. Comparison 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.600 is the thief of joy. If you want to steal 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.160 the joy from your family, whether it's their skin tone, 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.480 whether it's their education, keep comparing your kids and see 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.480 if you don't steal the joy and the love that's 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.520 in your home. And let's try to be better. Let's 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:50.360 try to really think about what we're saying to each 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.600 other as human beings. I understand that your boyfriend Carlos 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.440 is with you. Do we have him join us? Because 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.760 I think it would be so relevant to this conversation. 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:13.960 God like, beautiful couple it is. How did you guys 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:18.679 meet on Instagram? I sat in to them the DM 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:23.719 very quickly. He's a beautiful photographer and creative director, and 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:25.640 so I saw his work and I was like, oh, 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:27.320 I like this work. But then I saw his face 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.920 and I was like, oh, I like updated black men, 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.720 Latin men, white men. I was with a man who 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:36.200 for three and a half years he's Puerto Rican, and 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.760 I not once tried to speak Spanish, tried to expose 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:43.800 my culture, do anything, and with that person I could 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.280 not connect because I was too afraid. This is the 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:49.200 first time I've ever felt comfortable and embracing my Latin 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:54.400 side being with Carlos um and it's and I'm getting 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.440 pretty good at it, thank you. And it's only be 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:02.720 because Carlos and I practice in practical tota and and 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:05.960 like h the only way no fear, you're jumping. But 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.080 the fear has went away because he doesn't judge me 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:27.920 to no cuentamario. I'll tell you what I think making 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:33.600 the race better is understanding and not creating these barriers 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:43.280 or even having to say their phrase in Mexico contacto 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.880 as Latinos. We need to make sure we're looking at Wow. 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.880 That's the first time I ever said we yeah, there 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:53.120 you go. That's crazy. That was really just it. That's great. 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.400 But and so we had to think about what internalized 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.120 within the Latino community. Are we saying to ourselves and 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:02.280 believing and then passing on that is wrong about fo 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:19.000 Latinos or black people period? What do you GUYSA we 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.600 have to learn just we need to do better. We 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.600 can't change what happened before we can learn from it 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:31.080 and try to move forward. 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Every week we 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.840 just are shooting from the hip talking about everything nothing 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.400 at the same time, including topics like what people think 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:18.640 about Latinos that don't speak Spanish. Basically what he said was, oh, 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.240 you're a Mexican that doesn't speak Spanish. That's like a 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.240 taco with no south side, like a taco with no flavor. 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:25.959 Like she took that. It was like, this was a 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.840 year ago and I didn't get accepted, time sets and everything, 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:30.640 and the email of her not getting accepted, and then 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:36.200 a year later, exact design was on like a carvers 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.240 you can buy, and she was like, this is so 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.520 messed up because you can't do anything about it. 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Listen to Eating Wall 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:43.080 Broke on the I Heart Radio app, on Apple podcast, 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:47.120 or wherever you get your podcasts. When was a child, 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.440 she felt she was discriminated against because of the color 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.080 of her skin and the texture of her hair. Now, 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.400 as the start of love and hip Hop Miami, which 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:58.200 I also love, she's using her voice to speak up 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:10.760 for black Latinos. Welcome at your Yeah, sharing the dove, 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:16.200 sharing the love. Born Diana dan Ellis de Losantos got 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.960 her start in show business at four years old, dancing 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:23.400 in the popular Spanish variety series Sabadogan. We're both she 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:27.520 and Lily were regular cast members. People know me or 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.480 I started off as Diana Losantos back when I used 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:34.120 to you know, work at S Francisco, which, by the way, 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.040 now that I'm grown, I don't know how you did 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:39.960 it because that was a lot that why why why, 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.840 I'll tell you, I'll tell you why. Being on that 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.720 platform it was young, I learned a lot from it. 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:49.520 I'm grateful for the opportunity. You know, we know that 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.760 he wasn't a you know, the easiest cookie um, at 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:56.280 least not for me. And obviously no, no, you don't 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.920 mean born that we grown now and there was many 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.400 things that he could have done with his platform to 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.760 help people like myself during choreographers, they never knew where 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:11.080 to place me is gonna look awkward. He was one 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:16.240 of those that also made a lot of those umgusto 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:25.400 Joe because you know, no who's gonna go against the power, 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:30.640 like okay, racist comments with racist Yet years ago we 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:33.800 didn't have this car and the people have gotten away 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:38.200 with it. Because even if you knew it and I 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:40.360 love all these great things, yes, but if you had 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:42.960 the opportunity of going to sleep and waking up black, 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.240 would you want to wake up black? Would you want 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.440 to be treated as a black person? And this is 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.240 where I come in where I'm like, okay, let's have 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.400 real conversations. Okay, but you were the only black little 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:59.680 girl and how many years? Remind me? Five years is 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.680 a rate accomplishment. Come on, Londo, we've been here for 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:05.840 the longest time. There isn't a Latin country that doesn't 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:09.919 have black people, perto Rico Cuba, every single place in 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:11.440 the world. And that's the part that I feel that 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:40.720 it's unfair. That's how built like everybody was like drama 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:47.480 and we just try to cover it up, yo, But 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.479 a lot of us are very hypocrite, and that's just 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.960 the truth. You know what I'm saying, there is racism, 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:56.760 do you racista? I would never would you want your daughter, 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.040 your son to marry a black person? You know what 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:02.960 I'm saying. They're hoppy, but she's right. Not most people 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:07.120 are not like most most people have the subtext of racism. 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:08.960 Whether they tell you to your face, I'm not racist, 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.320 they're feeling it in there and it's the truth. This 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.600 is not to pain for anybody on this table specifically, 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:17.680 it's for the people that are watching. They and it's 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.400 the truth. And if you're racist, don't pretend to like 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.040 us and really not like us. Do what We leave 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:30.000 the same thing with the notes. I've heard it all, 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:33.080 and they make sure that you know that you are 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:37.800 the darkest one. It's like, I see, I gotta tell 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:42.000 me And don't get it twisted with this wig that 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:47.520 I got on right now, the badness I got my curls. 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:55.080 I embrace it. I played part of the game. I 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:58.400 know what it is. I know that African American parents 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:02.879 have the talk. Yes to Latino Afro Latino parents have 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:09.120 that talk, or Afro Latinos still black, Yes, we still 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.520 have to have that conversation. No, but do the question 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.399 listen to what you just told you Afro Latinos blood, 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:28.040 You'll never if you walk by a street, you walk 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:31.119 by a supermarket or whatever, there's always a security walking. 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.080 Do you need anything, man, do you need anything? No? 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:35.880 I don't. Why don't you ask somebody else? That's why 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:38.560 to me, I'm so passionate about it, and I don't 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:41.640 want to sugarcoat it. Being black, it's not being black 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:43.560 in America, it's not being black in Cuba, it's not 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:47.439 being black, and it's being black in the world. Just 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:50.560 see us as people, you know, Just see us as people. Man. 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:53.440 What you said is so important. Feel the fierce need 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.280 if somebody says something in aproperate to be like that 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.760 is disturbing, severely inappropriate. And also I want to ask 0:19:59.920 --> 0:20:03.000 is it okay if I say something? Is it okay 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.639 if I insert myself here? Because I feel like I 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.160 almost have to use my voice. But I also don't 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:11.199 want to make anybody uncomfortable. Whatever you feel in your 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:14.000 heart and in your spirit, you do it, stand behind it, 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:15.800 and especially if you know that it's coming from a 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:18.600 good place. None of us will ever feel some type 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:20.840 of way because you're defending us, because you're standing up 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:24.719 for us. We're grateful because no one does it. Growing up, 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:26.960 you never saw people like us select those. To me, 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:29.880 it was life and I had the honor of being 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:32.800 able to work with her the way she went through 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:35.560 a lot of discrimination in Cuba and even when she 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:39.960 had the opportunity having a major role. I've gone to auditions, 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:49.160 but novels and yawn exactly, we have like too. They've 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:57.920 told me we went. So then here comes apart where 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:04.640 I'm more because people Latina. With all due respect, Jennifer 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:08.080 Lopez COMOHI whatever it is, it doesn't look like me. 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:11.840 I have to agree with you. We have grown very much, 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:15.359 really have we? How many black people do you see? 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:18.560 How many black people do you see? How many black 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:20.399 people do you see the covers of magazines? Do you 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:29.000 see them in movies? No? You don't. So it's like, 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:34.840 have we really evolved? You? For me and I started 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:37.560 doing emotion when I hear you're talking was super impactful. 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:39.960 You don't understand how important it was for me to 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:41.840 see you on love in hip hop. If I would 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:45.040 have had you as a kid, Jesus, but I'm so 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:48.080 thankful that I had you as a grown man. I 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.120 know that there's not enough and there you still are 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:53.320 tokenized in so many ways. But I have to tell you, 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:56.440 even though you are that one and there should be more, 0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:58.959 I'm so thankful that you are the one. Thank you 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:02.320 so much, seriously, thank you. I have to give you 0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:04.840 all the credit in the world as well. I remember 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:08.280 one of the most important moments in my career was 0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:15.919 performing with you on stage in the Americans. Like you, 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:18.320 always make sure to give that credit to everyone, because 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:22.240 it takes a team to make those performances happen, and 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:25.240 within that team there were people like us. And even 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:28.680 though that I was very young, I shall always be great. 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.600 Thank you. But you know what's funny, I thought it 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:36.960 was us, I know, sharing our African traditions and are 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:40.240 such a part of who we are, and to me, 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:46.399 that's celebratory. You don't know because how impactful certain moments 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:49.639 can be for people. People both are gonna be amount 0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:52.600 of the role models for the next generation. What do 0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:55.840 you tell them? You go first, be patient with yourself 0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:57.960 and love every part of who you are. And it 0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:00.000 might take a little bit longer because of the negati 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:02.240 of things you've been hearing your entire life, But know 0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:04.520 that It's up to you to love yourself and to 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:07.359 see the beauty even if your family, your culture, or 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:09.600 the world around you does not make you feel like 0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:11.760 it is okay to love who you are and except 0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:14.120 who you are. I would say I don't get the way, 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:22.800 and I would say more, I don't get the way 0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:29.879 I see anything me. Embrace your neat dude, Embrace it, 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:33.840 Understand it, see it as a power. God blessed you 0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:37.320 with melanin. Melanin is a power. 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