WEBVTT - #297 - Cassidy 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:04.000 Year year. This Cassidy the Hustler. You already know how 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:06.240 I carry and then check me out right now on 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:14.360 Bootleg keV Podcasts. It's crazy. Let's get it easy Bootleg 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:19.279 CAV podcast Man special guests in here. Cassidy welcome, thanks 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.439 for having me. Boy. Listen, you are one of my 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:26.640 favorite rappers. Brou like when I was a kid. Man, Listen, 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:32.680 I bought Split Personality. I'm a hustler bars all that shit. Man. Nah, 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:34.840 I appreciate you. Man. I always say when it comes 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:36.199 to like and it did it without you? If you 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:38.800 ain't buy it, I wouldn't it so allowed on records, yo, Listen, 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:42.080 when it comes to like punchlines, I always say it's 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:45.480 you and Lloyd Banks as the ghats man. That's hard yeah. Man. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:48.000 So it's good to see you brother. I'm just happy 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.800 I'm in the conversation. You know, everybody have a different 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:54.320 group of people they put me in the conversation with. 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:56.480 But I'm just happy I'm in it all the time. 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.320 What was that talking about the best punches and then 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.440 you had that had that record where you was the 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:05.479 intro where you was battling yourself. Yeah, I got another 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:09.319 one too. I just did arp rb E Real Breed 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.920 and the team and he hosted it. Okay, came to 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.280 the stud through some money on the ground for me 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.240 to battle myself and I did a new one so 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:18.200 it'll be out. So on what was that the Hustler 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.440 verse the what was the name of the record? I 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.360 did two of them. It was the intro on one 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.000 of your albums for you. It was like it was 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:29.200 the Hustler versus the on the Bars album and I'm 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.920 a hustle album. Yeah, man, crazy man. One time I 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.240 did the Problem versus the Hustler, and that's the one. 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:39.840 I'm thinking it was the Hustler versus Bars. Well, listen, mans, 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.600 have you here? You've been doing a lot of battling 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:47.480 too lately. Yeah. Yeah, I'm back man, I'm back in 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.920 the in the ring in my bag. It got me 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.560 feeling young again. You know. That's how it started the music, battling, 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.639 being competitive. So it's helping me get back to my roots. 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.160 I was gonna say for you, is it like you've 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:04.720 had such a long journey through music? Do you do 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.400 you feel like because I feel like when when people 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.400 see some of these lineups, right, And I was just 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.280 talking to a ness about this. Like I'm like, like 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.120 the battle rap world is such a like niche hip 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:18.720 hop space that like people can be like real hardcore 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:20.799 hip hop heads and really not be super tapped in 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:22.359 what's going on in the battle world. You know what 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:26.519 I'm saying. Of course it's his own it's his own universe, man, right, 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.600 you know, And you're like a name where if you're 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.880 on the fly er, like anybody's like, oh, that's Cassidy. 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:33.520 You know what I'm saying, Like you're bringing eyes to 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:37.760 that world that maybe not would have checked it out otherwise, 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:39.680 you know what I'm saying. So you find it easy 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:41.560 for you to thrive in that space in terms of 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.720 like because you're bringing like you kind of bringing a 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:45.200 lot of eyes to it. So I'm sure you could 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.760 charge more than most people. Yeah, like that lane, that 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.880 form of bad le rap I started it, Like, nobody 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.160 never really seen that form of bad or rap before 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:58.160 they've seen me in a freeway battle legendary. You might 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.760 have heard about it, especially if you wasn't really in 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:04.079 the industry and super connected, you might have heard about it, 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.480 but you never actually got a chance to see it, 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.480 especially on camera. So that was the first time people 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.280 got a chance to see like somebody face to face 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:16.000 being competitive, snap into no beat and like to no 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.280 real flow, like just talking to each other. That was 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.880 the first time people really got to see it. So 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.440 that's that paved the way to all of these leagues starting. 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:26.600 So I felt like I started all of this right 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:32.440 and I inspired like ninety nine point nine percent of 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:35.680 the people that do it to do it, if not 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.360 one hundred percent. So that's the reason why I feel 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.960 like I deserve the money. I run things, and when 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.119 I come back, I shake it up, and that's why 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.360 that part of the culture respond like they do when 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.280 I'm back because they know the work I put in. Yeah, Yo, 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.040 the night that you battled Freeway, give me the background 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.920 of that night, because was it they weren't hot ninety 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.840 seven that night or something? Yeah, earlier that night. Yeah, 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:58.880 I started it, and then Swiss was like, I got 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.280 it because obviously free from Philly. You're from Philly. So 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:06.800 that happened at a recording studio. Yeah, So did you 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.600 pull up knowing y'all were going to battle? And did 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.160 he know you guys were going to battle? Nah? I 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.920 was already in the studio and I went to McDonald's 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.600 when I heard them on the radio rapping and talking 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.800 about they want to battle and anybody could get it. 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.159 So they wasn't talking about me, but I felt like 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.840 they was. So when I got back to the studio, 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.840 I told Swiss about it and he like, all right, 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:33.360 don't madic jay Z coming to the studio tonight anyway. 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.280 So I'm just sitting around and when jay Z got there, 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:41.760 he introduced them to me, introduced me is like him 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.679 like the next one, and jay Z took offense today 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:46.800 like what you ain't hit my artist? I got the 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.320 artist niggas in That's how I started gaining competitive hoh, 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.320 start talking. He called them up. We called our people's up. 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.160 Next thing, you know, the studio was crowded and we battled. 0:04:56.440 --> 0:05:01.760 Oh man, that was a legendary moment. Man, I'd heard 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:03.560 that you guys were supposed to run it back. It 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:07.160 just didn't it getting worked out. Yeah, it was supposed 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:08.920 to be with the U r L with Smack. We 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.560 were supposed to do another one, but I don't know 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:15.440 business wise and ain't paying out. Didn't line up. Yeah 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:18.040 that's fair. Yeah, that was a I feel like that 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.040 because correct me if I'm wrong, but that came out. 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.640 Did that video come out like right away or was 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:27.720 it like later on that we actually saw the video. Nah, 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.960 it took some time at first. At first it was 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:36.440 it was on audio, like a DJ got a copy 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:38.400 of the tape and put it on audio, so a 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.679 lot of people only they just had it on Napster. 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.880 Would you like download battles off Napster? And I think 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.320 it was even before that time because it was on 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.560 VHS tape. So the DJ put it on you know, 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.200 CD on mixtape, and that's how people started to hear 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.799 it around, you know, around the world. They was hearing 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:59.279 the audio but didn't see the visual, and it was 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.200 floating around in the industry. Certain key people got a 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.000 chance to see the visual, but the Internet wasn't out. 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.159 It was like it was like some word of mouth 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.279 shit like yo, I saw this tape. Dah that shit 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.920 don't exist, Like no, I saw it, Yeah, exactly. And 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.960 it was no YouTube, no Internet for people to really 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:20.200 get access to it. So it was just like big 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.240 on the streets and building up for a long period 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.760 of time. And then when YouTube and the Internet dropped 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:28.000 and everything, then they re uploaded it and people started 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.120 getting to see it all around the world. Yeah, no, legendary, man. 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:35.799 So you take me back to obviously the full surface 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:39.800 era was crazy. Uh you had three great bodies of work, 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:43.240 hit records, all of that. What was it like running 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.080 around in Arizona with DMX and Swiss Beats in the 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:50.200 early two thousands brouh, Yeah it was. It was dope, man. 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:52.080 It was fun. Man. For people who don't know. Swiss 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.719 Beats had kind of like planted his feet pretty heavy 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:56.560 out in as he was a part owner of like 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.760 a car dealership, a nightclub that's at the same time 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.560 MX is out there, and it was a lot of 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.280 energy out there. And I'm from Azy, so I got 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.599 to ask because I know you were out there a lot. Yeah, 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:12.160 it was a lot of energy. I liked it. I 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.440 mean I was from Philly, man, so you know you 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:16.880 have a you've been to Philly. You see. I just 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.600 told Nests I've literally just rode a train through Philly 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.600 from DC to New York and and I was telling 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.680 him how we stopped in Chester at like one of 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:26.200 the stops, and I looked outside and I was like, 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.040 what the fuck where are we at? Bro? Yeah, Well, 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.480 if you ever go to Philly. I mean it's some 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.840 nice parts, but the majority of the parts is like 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:38.040 a big difference from Arizona. So when I got over 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.480 there and I've seen how people living, how nice it is, 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.560 and I mean how dope it was. And plus I'm 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.760 out there working on my music, so I got a 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.880 different type of reception. So I was loving it, man 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.720 Swiss at the club I was performing there, it was live. 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.720 Was turned. What was like being around DMX during that 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:58.240 era of X, because that was like he was like 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.000 in the desert with them ATVs. Heavy Man. Yeah, I 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.680 actually went back to Arizona too, like for my third 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.160 album when I after I fought the case and I 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.480 came home, I started working on a new project. I 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:13.080 went to Arizona to do that before the accident, and 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:15.679 that was like the last time I was like really 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:19.960 around X. Went to his crib, brought Doctor Benjamin to 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.200 his house. Now doctor Benjamin was in the Belly movie 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.240 with him preaching to him and all of that. So 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.840 then I'll bring him to X house and we vibing out, 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:31.840 chilling and it was dope. Man. X was in a 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.679 positive zone. I was liking how he was, I mean 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.960 carrying it at that time. And one of the memorable 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.760 moments is when he showed me this giant scorpion we 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.679 was riding past. He was on the foe wheeler, he 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:44.559 was in the car. He was leading us back out 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:46.800 to the road to leave, and then he turned around. 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.200 He said, yo, y'all want to see a scorpion and 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:53.160 we like yeah, and he took a rock and he 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:57.480 threw it down and then like made the scorpion tail 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:59.400 come off and he picked it up like this, and 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:03.400 then poison was dripping in me like look, look, and 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.080 that's I heard. His crip was like like in care free, 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:09.520 like deep, like yeah, and that's how I remember them, 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:11.560 Like he was just like he ain't give a fuck 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:16.160 about and he was just wild but good dude. So 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:20.839 that's the last memory I meant remember with X and Arizona, Yes, 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:25.240 busting a scorpion stinger off and yeah yeah, with Doctor 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:28.440 Ben him and Belly and the whole vibe it was. 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.839 It was it was super dope. Yeah. Man, it's crazy 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.560 because you've you've been a part of some historical movements 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:35.800 in hip hop man, so it's hope to kind of 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.120 see you get this this battle run in you that's 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.800 like you're like one of the IT battlers now and 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:43.760 you're kind of like helping carry the scene now. So 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.559 you know, I feel like it's just it's just good 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.920 to see man. For you, How are you adjusting because 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.080 you've been through so many eras of this music ship, 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:55.760 Like how do you adjust with the new way with 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:59.000 the world in which TikTok is a big part of 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:03.320 what breaks and you know there's not a you have 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.000 more of a direct line of communication with your fans now, 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:07.800 you know what I'm saying, Like like you feel like 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:11.800 you're adjusting to the new era this shit like pretty well, yeah, 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.200 I mean I don't got to adjust. I'm living through it. 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.400 I mean so, and I'm not stuck in my ways, 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.240 Like I'm not stuck in the old waves or the 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:25.640 old form of down business. Like I move where however 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:29.079 things are going. And I got a team. I got sons, 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:33.200 you know what I mean, sons. A son that's nineteen, 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.840 a son that's fourteen, Like they like super into technology 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.640 and the new waves of what's going on. Yeah, so 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.960 they put me on. I got a team myself that 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.599 I do music with that's all different ages, Like you 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.080 know what I mean in all different places in their 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.520 life that be putting me on. So that's how I'm 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.360 able to stay on top of things. And I make 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.760 sure I just stay on top of being dope and 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.240 being a rapper. You got a team of people that 0:10:58.320 --> 0:10:59.959 to figure out how I stay on top of ten 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:06.240 technology for you. Give me your top five punchline rappers. Ever, 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.400 let's exclude you because you're in that. I got you 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.679 a top two. I told you. But but who who's 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:13.760 who's in the five? Who got the best punch lines 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:19.480 of hip hop history? Man? Outside of yourself laughing? That's 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:33.120 Big L of this, Big Daddy Kane and g rap 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:35.720 Yo Big Daddy Kane. He said that ship on a 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.360 Big L album where he was like exhibit styles. I 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.240 kick with it, pard of me, but I'm fucking sick 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:46.040 with it. Big Daddy k Man for sure. Daddy Kane 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.839 is a legend. Man. That's like my I named dudes 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:52.800 that like kind of came before me. 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Is there 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.680 anybody from the newer generation that you're just a fan of? 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:41.800 Not even on some punchline shit, just on some rapper 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:46.000 shit like who are you listening to? That is from 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:50.440 I guess the current era? If anybody I listen to 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.560 all type of shit, man, I listen to everything money 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:55.600 bag yo, Like one of my favorite artists are like 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:58.160 a bunch of his past fire like you know what 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.840 I mean. I like his voices, style and the shit 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:05.360 to be talking about. But I like even records like 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:06.960 you know what I mean, I'd be with my wife 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.080 and with the women that's down with my team, and 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.680 then it could be something like shahbu Yai road called 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:16.680 come On. I like that. Like I like all type 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:20.240 of stuff, man, I'm in all different type of bags. 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.440 I like all of the new artists for different reasons, 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.640 and just because they might not be lyrical or just 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.720 because they might not be this or that, they might 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:30.800 do other things that I think is dope. And I like, 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.040 you know, things going to three sixties. So I could 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.160 see a lot of artists that came before them in 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:39.440 a new version of the old artists that they are. 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:43.400 So I'm excited at and I'm glad this shit growing 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:45.760 is the number one form of music in the world. 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.680 Now everybody know what it is. They know it's not 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.320 a fad. It's going to be here forever. And a 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.360 lot of new artists find in different ways to be successful. 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.560 And the same thing that we call rap or hip hop, 0:16:58.160 --> 0:16:59.360 you know what I mean, You don't got to be 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.200 one direction and you don't gut to just have bars 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.680 or B street or be killer. It's like you could 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:09.120 be or even have information like you got even rappers 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.639 that's not too smart, that's uninformed of figuring out a 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:15.520 way to get a fan base. So it's dope, yo. 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:19.760 I always say that it's for me. It's easy. I 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:22.239 separate the art from the artists at all times. And 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:26.240 one of the best R. Kelly features ever is obviously Hotel, 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.159 which is on your first album. But that was your 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.760 first single, right, yes, sir? What was that process? Because 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.600 I always heard that R. Kelly's like process as an 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.680 artist was like he was like a savant, like Rainman 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:39.440 type shit. You know what I'm saying, Like, what was 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:43.600 it like? Did you guys do that in studio together? Yeah? 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:45.600 So you got that was like you were in a 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:47.520 session with Kels as he's cutting that. What was that 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:53.400 studio session? Like? It was my first time meeting him, 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:57.000 and I think it was my first time to Chicago too, 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:01.159 So you guys went to Chicago. Yeah, and you know, 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.280 Swizzerland was telling me, you know, different stuff or how 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.440 it might be. But when we went in there, I'm 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:08.760 a super fan of R Kelly me too, like my 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.360 older brother that raised me, Like you know, we used 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:13.800 to ride around in the hood banging that like banging 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:17.240 R Kelly song loud, like I was a super fan. 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.520 So to know that I'm working on my first album, 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:24.600 finally got budgets opened and it's like big yeah, and 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.639 I'm working on my first single with R Kelly and 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:32.399 Swiss Beats produced it, and I'm It's like so I 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:35.080 was excited. I was super happy on I got in 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:40.760 the studio and even Twister came through. I remember Twister 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:45.639 came through the studio and me and Twister like start rapping. 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.560 I think Twist to spit some bars. I spit some 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:53.880 bars and we basically me and Swiss just was there. 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:57.120 Swiss started explaining the record, like how was the Swiss's 0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:00.159 idea to do the hotel concept or was it R 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:08.879 Kelly's idea? Yeah, it was Swiss idea. It was like 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:12.800 a collaboration. It was we we already had the idea 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.159 that we wanted to do this hotel record when we 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:18.960 went to go see R Kelly. So it was already 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.359 like an idea we had. We already had the beat, 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.640 and we already like had the direction a little bit, 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:28.120 but once you told R. Kelly like the idea, he 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:31.000 just went crazy in his own direction and started singing 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.240 a bunch of stuff. He went in the booth and 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:36.000 went crazy and started doing a lot of things that 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.119 we could have used for a hook. So he was 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:41.160 just cut melodies off the top of his head type ship. Yeah, 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.400 we just chose that little piece that you know as 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.760 the Hotel chorus now. But he did a lot of 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:50.399 a lot of different parts and a lot of different 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:54.160 other versions of hooks, Like we did the remix too, 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:58.280 off the same session, So it's just parts of the 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:00.480 parts that I told you he did that he didn't 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:04.000 use just for the remix. But there's so many ladies 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:08.680 like he just went in different bags. He he creative man, 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:11.879 the nigga talented. I forgot to tell you too before 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:13.800 he went in a booth. On the Hotel beat, it 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:17.320 was like a beat tape playing of like thirty beats, 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:21.520 just playing back to back. And he wouldn't say skip 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:23.200 none of them. He wouldn't be like I don't like 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:26.480 him or nothing like that. It's like no, no, no no, 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:28.840 I don't think they were just someone else's be just 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:32.640 to BCD's playing. Yeah, it wasn't Swiss. I don't know who, right, 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:35.440 but it was just a tape playing and every beat 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.280 that come on. As soon as the beat drop, he 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:39.960