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Speaker 1: The Minnesota Vikings lose Opening Day against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

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Speaker 1: and I just have a few things to say after

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Speaker 1: their big opening day loss, and we are going to

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Speaker 1: dive into that shortly. And my first takeaway after the

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Speaker 1: Vikings lose is, oh man, that's my first takeaway after

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Speaker 1: the Vikings loss. How can you all laugh after a

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Speaker 1: performance like that versus the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. It's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: I'm one of those guys that doesn't take Vikings games

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Speaker 1: too seriously. I'm invested, but they're not going to ruin

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Speaker 1: my day. I want them to win a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: but if they don't, life goes on. That's just how

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Speaker 1: I am with the Minnesota Vikings. But my first takeaway

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Speaker 1: after the Vikings loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is

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Speaker 1: that we don't have to worry about the Vikings losing

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Speaker 1: a heartbreaker in the NFC Championship Game and the divisional

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Speaker 1: round or the wild card round because they ain't getting

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Speaker 1: that far. Folks. The Minnesota Vikings have no shot at

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Speaker 1: making the playoffs this year. My prediction before the season

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Speaker 1: started was eight and nine, and unless some miracle happens

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Speaker 1: against Philadelphia on Thursday night football on the road and

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Speaker 1: just a couple of days the Vikings are going to

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Speaker 1: start the season zero and two. But I brought on

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Speaker 1: some friends that watch this game that are invested in

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings, and they even have their own podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's Luke Jeger, Jack Yeger. They're brosifs. I'm a distant

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Speaker 1: brosif but boy, how you feeling are you doing? How

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Speaker 1: give me emotions? After the Vikings loss versus the Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 2: Pretty much the worst start to a season for either

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Speaker 2: of us. We're big fantasy football guys as well, so

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Speaker 2: right now it's looking like not only did the Vikings lose,

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Speaker 2: but I was playing against Kirk Cousin and Alexander Madison

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Speaker 2: so that pass to Alexander Madison was a double whammy

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Speaker 2: for me. And then they still lose, so pretty much

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Speaker 2: a horrible, horrible day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jack, what are your thoughts on the game?

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Speaker 3: Two takeaways? TJ.

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Speaker 4: Hockinson's gonna be losing touches to Oliver if he keeps

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Speaker 4: butting up thirty thirty yards three targets a game.

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Speaker 3: I like looking at him. He's kind of fun.

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Speaker 4: And also I'm just glad we lost to a premier

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Speaker 1: I think in the first half the Vikings had like

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Speaker 1: three hundred yards versus the Tampa Bay Buccaneers like sixty

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Speaker 1: five yards and it was a top ten ten game

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Speaker 1: at halftime. Before we continue on with the reaction to

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Speaker 1: Well, let's dive back into the Minnesota Vikings loss against

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Luke and Jackieger, host of

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Speaker 5: Right, if you've got mail damage called north.

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Speaker 1: Face, called north Face, let's do it. So how much

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Speaker 1: blame do you guys put on Kirk Cousins after this

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Speaker 3: So interesting stat came up. I don't know if anybody

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Speaker 4: At halftime, he was looking at two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 4: yards with three turnovers, which is the last time that

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 4: I think the biggest obstacle that Minnesota is going to

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Speaker 4: O line. It looked like Kirk was getting trapped every

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Speaker 2: Honestly, if we were to fraction out the blame, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Kirk to me, maybe gets five percent.

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Speaker 5: Like, I don't think much of it was on him.

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Speaker 5: When you look at.

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Speaker 2: Those turnovers, one of them was slapped out of his

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Speaker 1: Right, exactly. When you look at the turnovers. How can

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Speaker 5: Right, you really can't.

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Speaker 2: I mean the interception was torn out of kJ Osbourne's hands.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when I was watching the game, Kirk has some

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Speaker 1: about this game, It's like the exact opposite happened last season,

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Speaker 1: needed to go for the Minnesota Vikings to win that game.

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Speaker 1: They flashed it in the screen during the game. Ten

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Speaker 1: comfort behind victories last season and we finished with a

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Speaker 1: thirteen to four record. You look at this game and

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Speaker 1: it was it was a prime spot to have another

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Speaker 1: come from behind victory. We're down twenty to seventeen. The

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins missus kJ Osborne by a foot or so

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Speaker 2: I honestly don't even know where I put most of

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Speaker 2: I mean, losing Bradbury is losing Darisaw for a stretch.

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Speaker 2: That's tough when you already have a week offensive line.

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Speaker 2: I thought the defense played in the first half, especially,

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Speaker 2: than last year's. Give them fifteen yards every play and

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Speaker 2: to watch this year. But hopefully next game we get

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Speaker 2: a few more of the breaks to fall our way.

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Speaker 2: And the Eagles, Hey, hey, why not? I mean, we

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Speaker 2: weren't expecting to lose to the Bucks. Nobody's expecting us

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Speaker 1: Maybe, are you going to give us? Are you going

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Speaker 1: to give the Vikings a chance against the Eagles? Come on,

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Speaker 1: stand on it, stand by.

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Speaker 5: Don't spread what.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If there I give them, I bet they beat us.

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Speaker 2: They're within a touchdown, I bet so. I bet they

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Speaker 2: beat like a five point spread.

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Speaker 1: I think we lose.

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Speaker 4: We do love playing to our competition somebody who I

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Speaker 4: would blame pretty hard today Alexander Madison did not look good.

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Speaker 3: He did not look good at all.

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Speaker 4: Anybody saying that Alexander Madison is going to be playing

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Speaker 4: to the caliber of what Dalvin Cook is going to

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Speaker 2: Like his touchdown, I hated his touch yeah, ending my

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Speaker 4: Any run, it felt like he was carrying it for

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Speaker 4: Other than that touchdown, it just didn't seem like you could.

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Speaker 3: Never find a hole.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know if that's the old lines fault,

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Speaker 4: but it wasn't. Wasn't super impressed with matter today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he does seem to lack an explosiveness, and

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Speaker 1: he had some explosive plays last year, but he wasn't

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Speaker 1: And I think that's why the Vikings got rid of him.

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Speaker 1: Plus he's getting older, Plus his contract was massive. When

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Speaker 1: I saw this game, I saw a lot of rust

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Speaker 1: of Kirk Cousin's hands. Luke, you mentioned that one, and

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Speaker 1: we saw other plays even like lining up for a

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Speaker 1: for the Buccaneers, make it thirteen to ten. Then at

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Speaker 1: seventeen to ten, Vikings side the game seventeen seventeen. Well,

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Speaker 1: if in a perfect world for the Minnesota Vikings, that

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Speaker 1: game would have been seventeen thirteen after the Vikings touched

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Speaker 1: out because the Buccaneers kicked the field goal before. It

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Speaker 1: just seemed like there was a lot of missed opportunities,

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Speaker 1: a lot of misplays, and when you look at it,

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Speaker 1: it's like the game of football is not that complicated.

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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell I can guarantee what he's going to say

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Speaker 1: we had too many turnovers. We had three turnovers, We

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Speaker 1: had too many misfortunate plays and that's why we lost.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, I agree. It did look it was sloppy.

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Speaker 2: And on that field goal when they showed the replay,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't just Ward. It looked like three guys on

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Speaker 5: Those are special teams. Errors are killer. Those Yeah, need

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Speaker 1: What percentage chance do you give the Vikings to now

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs? They still have the Eagles, they have

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Speaker 1: the Bengals who got cream today twenty four to three

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Speaker 1: ers who just went into Pittsburgh and crushed them. Those

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Speaker 1: three teams left on the schedule, you would anticipate those

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Speaker 1: would be all three be losses. Maybe I will see

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Speaker 1: all the season goes. But I mean, I guess Luke,

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Speaker 1: I mean I guess Luke likes our chances against the

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, no, I like our chances against the spread. I'm

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Speaker 2: guessing the spread. Yes, No, I don't think we win.

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Speaker 5: You go for a check?

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Speaker 3: Oh man, that's so tough.

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Speaker 5: That is true, That is true.

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Speaker 3: He's good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy, this guy's just bleaning purple over here.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Before the season, when do you think of this takeaway?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, I think I do think Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Uh, that's all hold? Sorry, sorry, Luke. I think that's

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Speaker 5: The winning with nine or the Vikings winning the division

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what.

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Speaker 2: What was the worst division record to get in last year.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure it wasn't there. I would have met.

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Speaker 4: I think Bucks got in with eight wins or seven

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Speaker 5: We make the wild cards.

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Speaker 2: Eight and nine records, so I think I think nine

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Speaker 4: I'm not buying into the Detroit Lions as much as

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Speaker 4: It's definitely gonna help the record overall, but putting up

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Speaker 4: You did beat Kansas City, but also not a great defense,

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Speaker 4: But I don't think Detroit is as good as people

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Speaker 1: Oh oh wow, I got the Vikings at a and

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Speaker 1: This is why you should follow, not for the hot takes,

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Speaker 1: but the Relegations Fantasy Football podcast sponsored by north Face Construction.

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Speaker 1: That's what it kind of takes you get on fantasy football.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Kirk Cousins is this is last year

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Speaker 2: I think the safest bet ist bet he'll be playing

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Speaker 5: I see my chance here. I like living in Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: What I was just going to say. Games of the season.

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Speaker 6: Really, I don't know, Jack visit Relegation podcast, put your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 4: I think after after the Philadelphia game, if we really

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Speaker 4: I don't think at any point we're going to tank.

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Speaker 1: now you guys are just making a case against which

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Speaker 1: makes me look not good when fine, why and fine fine,

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Speaker 1: I've been holding onto material for a while. Jack. The

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Speaker 1: Bengals don't play the Bikings still week fifteen. It's not

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Speaker 1: Week seven, it's not week ten. Okay, and Luke, you're

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Speaker 1: laughing at Jack. The Packers don't play the forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers this year. I think they played the Bengals. They

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Speaker 1: don't play two of those three hard teams the Vikings

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Speaker 1: are playing this year. So let me get that off

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Speaker 1: my chest.

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Speaker 4: You got me as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you guys came back after me. So I

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Speaker 1: just can't. I just can't get out of this anymore.

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Speaker 5: Hey, if we're going to dish it, we got to

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Speaker 5: be able to take it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love it, Bring it, bring it.

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Speaker 2: Gonna say back to the Kirk Cousins things. One of

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Speaker 2: the hosts on our podcast, Andy Andy Peterson, he thinks

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Speaker 2: Cousins is gone and he thinks Kyler Murray is the

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Speaker 2: Vikings starting quarterback. Cardinals lose, they get Caleb Williams, let

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Speaker 2: Kyler walk, or trade him and the Vikes.

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Speaker 5: The Vikes get him.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals played tough against the Commanders today. I don't

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Speaker 1: see that happening. I don't see the Vikings trading for

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. I think that's more of a why wouldn't

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Speaker 1: you just keep Kirk Cousins if you're gonna trade for

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Yeah, I don't know ky Kyler his reputation

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Speaker 1: isn't very good around the league where he wants to

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Speaker 1: play more cod than actually watch game tape. He had

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Speaker 1: some injury history. He scrambles around quite a bit, could

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Speaker 1: get hurt on one play, and it could flip your

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Speaker 1: entire season. That couldn't happen to every quarterback, but specifically

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Speaker 1: a scrambling quarterback like Kyler Murray. It seems like that

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Speaker 1: would happen more too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't hope that happens. I think that would

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Speaker 2: be a bad trade for the Vikes. We'd have to

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Speaker 2: give up draft capital and much rather have Cousins.

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Speaker 5: I'm not a fan of Kyler, not at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he is he is younger, he's athletic. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what what Connell is looking for in his

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Speaker 2: perfect QB or do.

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Speaker 1: But so are you guys gonna go with Jordan Addison's

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Speaker 1: offensive Rookie of the Year After his first performance.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he looked pretty pretty fun.

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Speaker 4: I had him on my bench in one league and

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Speaker 4: unfortunately I started t Higgins over him, which came up

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Speaker 4: with a big old who said that was staring back

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Speaker 4: at me from the bench. But I love it, you know,

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Speaker 4: having that depth on you know, on guys that I

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Speaker 4: could potentially bring into the game.

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Speaker 3: It's fun.

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Speaker 4: Now does Jordan Addison score every single game moving forward?

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Speaker 3: Probably not, but his value is there.

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Speaker 4: He has the opportunity to the Only thing that worries

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Speaker 4: me about Addison is he is weak. If anybody touches him,

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Speaker 4: he's not getting a single yard more so, he's gonna

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Speaker 4: have to be wide open when he catches it or

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Speaker 4: put on some muscle.

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Speaker 2: I would say, uh, Addison is not going to be

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Speaker 2: offensive Rookie of the Year would be my guess.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, four.

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Speaker 2: For sixty one in a touchdown, great, but that's not

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Speaker 2: that's not like JJFF Rookie years stats or something like that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's so early, it's week one. Who

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Speaker 5: knows so much stuff can happen?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Jon looked good today, he did look he

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Speaker 4: looked pretty solid. Oh my gosh, Vjon is that Atlanta

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Speaker 4: Falcons offense?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, but he's rookie, right, he's a rookie. Actually,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's funny about Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: I know this is a Minnesota podcast, But Tyler al

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Speaker 4: Geer putting up two touchdowns today?

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Speaker 3: What's up with that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Like serious? Soj' over Madison right now.

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Speaker 1: That's the type of stuff you get on this podcast.

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Football League podcast. That is uh Luke act Is.

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Speaker 1: I was like, and some guests are on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: If you guys had to describe this Viking's loss in

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Speaker 1: one word or two words, I'll be nice. How do

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Speaker 1: you describe this loss two words?

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Speaker 5: One or two words?

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Speaker 1: Very discouraging?

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Speaker 3: It would have been just discouraging. But I like how

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Speaker 3: you were allowed. You were allowed the second word like

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Speaker 3: that flex option.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's very Yeah, I like it. Luke still early.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I love these that's right that wow wow. Man,

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Speaker 1: Tell you what if the Vikings ship went by right now,

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Speaker 1: I think your nips would be getting a little hard.

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Speaker 1: Tell you what, dude, man, big big Vikings guy. I

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Speaker 1: didn't realize you're the speak of a homer.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm actually not. Usually I think I think the worst.

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Speaker 2: Let's say the Vikings had just played the Chiefs won

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Speaker 2: that and the Lions lost this. My thought would be,

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Speaker 2: you know what, it's Minnesota, They're still gonna lose it.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes giving up that homer on the first pitch isn't

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Speaker 2: the worst thing. You start to play a little looser,

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Speaker 2: things change. Maybe this is one of those seasons where

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Speaker 2: it looks ugly to start and the guys can rally

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Speaker 2: around it.

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Speaker 1: You have a good point. I mean, the Eagles are

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Speaker 1: only up sixteen to zero on the Patriots in the

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Speaker 1: first quarter, so there's a good chance the Vikings can

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Speaker 1: go into Philadelphia and when.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, I like it.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna make that victory look even sweeter. Wait to

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Speaker 2: come on next week and just be yeah.

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Speaker 1: I want you to come on next week. Let's do it.

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Speaker 5: You can do it.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Let' be sweet. I guess my one word for the

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Speaker 1: Vikings loss against the Buccaneers would be heartbreaking. I one word,

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if you guys heard it or not.

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Speaker 1: You kind of were in the lobby waiting for me

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Speaker 1: to let you in. But my takeaway from this game

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Speaker 1: was that the Vikings faithful, the Vikings in general. You

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Speaker 1: won't have to worry about being heartbroken in an nc

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Speaker 1: championship game, in the divisional round or the wild card

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Speaker 1: round because they gave you a heartbreak in the first

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Speaker 1: week of the regular season.

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Speaker 2: Yep. I don't think we're making it to the Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if we make it to the NFC Conference Championship.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to be shocked. Yeah, very very shocked.

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Speaker 3: So like very shocked, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Coming from you. Look I'm surprised.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, I said we make the playoffs at nine

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Speaker 2: and eight. I don't think anybody expects those teams to

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Speaker 2: advance out of the first round.

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Speaker 1: Agree, Okay, okay, that's fair, that's fair. Well, guys, thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining the Minnesota tim podcast. Last second, I

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Speaker 1: just messaged you out of the blue, anay you guys

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Speaker 1: want to join, and you guys join, so I appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: No, I love the invite. Thanks, thanks for hitting us up.

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Speaker 3: This was fun.

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