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Speaker 1: And we are back. Welcome back for our number two

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Speaker 1: of the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. He is

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Speaker 1: Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lolly and it is mock

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Speaker 1: draft time, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And as we talked about rules, we have rules here.

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Speaker 1: We only get one trade in our mock draft today.

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Speaker 1: We can make one. You mentioned what would it cost

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Speaker 1: for us to move up to the number one overall pick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we ran out of time last hour, but we

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Speaker 3: were talking about, you know, different trades that were on

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Speaker 3: ESPN and all that, and I ran and got of water,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, just hypothetical, what would it cost from

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Speaker 3: twenty to one?

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Speaker 1: I mean you're talking probably with some of those other

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Speaker 1: prices that we just talked about a lot, a lot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, to move up from eight to one was

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Speaker 1: three first and three seconds.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, you know exactly. I mean at the water cooler,

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting there going if that was something mister Rooney

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Speaker 2: comes to me and says, negotiate a deal for the

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Speaker 2: first overall pick.

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Speaker 3: All right, I called the Bears. Let's go dinner at

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Speaker 3: you know, Saint Elmos or whatever. All right, so I

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Speaker 3: get your attention with twenty next year's first and TJ.

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Speaker 1: Watt all right, we can.

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Speaker 3: Have a conversation then Steelers, and they still might be

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Speaker 3: like and I went.

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Speaker 1: The first after that, I mean for your next two second.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Caroling Amca, Yeah, I mean like it's that's the

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Speaker 3: kind of stuff you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's still I might I might be

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Speaker 2: even far off right, go from one to twenties.

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Speaker 1: A hall for that, you can't do it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, I mean he's a lot.

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Speaker 1: You know, even when Kansas City made the move up,

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Speaker 1: it went to ten.

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Speaker 3: Ten, it's not for the first overall pick right, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's it doesn't happen much. I mean even

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Speaker 3: trying to think of like Julio Jones was they were

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Speaker 3: like thirteen and three the Falcons, and they went to six,

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Speaker 3: you know, and they gave up a ton. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean that's not for one. And they didn't go up

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Speaker 3: to get Cam Newton at one. They got Julio at six,

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Speaker 3: who was the second receiver off the board that year.

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Speaker 3: Even you know, so it's almost undoable, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: i mean it's almost like here's the keys to the facility.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to you know, the Ricky Williams trade

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Speaker 1: We're gonna give you all of our draft picks the

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Speaker 1: next three years.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like if the Steelers offered them their entire

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Speaker 3: draft this year, they'd laugh at you. Yeah, that doesn't

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Speaker 3: even get you in the door. I mean, you can't

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Speaker 3: even sit the poker.

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Speaker 1: In Chicago's sitting here with. They get the first pick

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Speaker 1: and the ninth pick, which is great. Then they don't

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Speaker 1: pick it in until seventy five.

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Speaker 2: Because they signed Sweat or they traded for Sweat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they have one eleven, one three. That's why

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Speaker 1: to me making a deal, I'm certainly listening down, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and acquiring more picks. And then you look at next

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Speaker 1: year's draft. They have the first, their first round pick,

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Speaker 1: two seconds, a third or fourth, a fifth, and two

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Speaker 1: sixth so they got next year. If I can add

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Speaker 1: to that, I've already got a first and two seconds

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Speaker 1: next year.

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Speaker 2: One of those seconds is from the Rice Young trade, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If I can get another first and another second next year, yeah,

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Speaker 1: now I can rebuild my roster.

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Speaker 2: Plus all the cap space.

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Speaker 1: Plus all the capspace I get a lot of lately.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you take the chance on fields and you still,

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Speaker 3: you know, have options if he flops.

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Speaker 1: Or get two more years to figure that out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, or if this year, yeah, don't pick up

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Speaker 3: the fifth year option, right, use that caspace elsewhere and

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Speaker 3: trade up I mentioned, I would certainly be interested. I

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Speaker 3: always love those, the trading out of one scenarios.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we're ready to go here.

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Speaker 3: Example, though the Bears would not have been better off

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Speaker 3: sitting there and taken Bryce Young last year. No, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean, like they got it's working. That's

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Speaker 3: why we're having this conversation, right, he made such a

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Speaker 3: good deal getting out of one last year, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, starting to draft, no, not trading up. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: the picks ahead of us Caleb Williams, Drake May, Marvin

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Speaker 1: Harrison at three, Cooper Dejene at four Wow, brock Bauers

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Speaker 1: at five, Molik Neighbors at six, Nate Wiggins at seven WOW,

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Speaker 1: Sean Who at ten, Terry and Arnold at eleven, Felici

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Speaker 1: Mitchell at fourteen, Byron Murphy at fifteen, Dallas Turner at sixteen,

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Speaker 2: A couple things.

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Speaker 3: This time of years. Everyone knows that there's like seasons

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Speaker 3: in the NFL, and there's if you've been doing this

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Speaker 3: long enough, you realize right around now and especially next week,

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Speaker 3: when everyone's in the same city that the quote draftnicks,

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Speaker 3: the media guys start to get a little more tuned

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Speaker 3: into what going what's going on in NFL buildings, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and they start hearing things, and the NFL teams have

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Speaker 3: a firmer idea because they're all in there now building things,

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Speaker 3: and you start to realize the NFL is higher on

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Speaker 3: these corners than we thought.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, and that worries me.

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Speaker 3: From a Steeler perspective, is there's four or five corners,

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Speaker 3: depending what you think of kool aid that you consider

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Speaker 3: strongly at twenty. They may not be They may not

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Speaker 3: be there. They may I used to think it a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Dejene could go five or six. Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: have four trade offers. Okay, San Francisco's on the phone, well,

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Speaker 2: their picks at thirty one.

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Speaker 1: The other team's on the phone. Kansas City at thirty two,

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Speaker 1: Washington who's next pick is thirty six, and Jacksonville, whose

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Speaker 1: next pick is forty eight.

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Speaker 2: Wow, forty eight will be a long wait.

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Speaker 1: That's a long way to fall. What's out there that

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Speaker 2: There's definitely some tackles, so the best corners are probably

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Speaker 2: gone pretty much.

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Speaker 1: Powers Johnson is there, Jerson Newton, Brian Thomas, Amarius Mims

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Speaker 3: If we go to thirty one thirty two, we could

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Speaker 3: keep our fingers crossed. The Powers Johnson's there, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: and it's possible, but settle for Barton. Not that he's

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent going to be there, but that wouldn't

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Speaker 2: Of interest, right, Dighton Mims, the guys, they were the two, okay.

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Speaker 1: And again they might need to red shirt the intern You're.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, right, and you'd feel a lot more comfortable

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Speaker 3: taking them at thirty one than you would have twenty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for that. So here's the thing that people like

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Speaker 1: Cam Hayward is not getting any younger. TJ. Watt is

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Speaker 1: not getting any younger. I like your window with those

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Speaker 1: guys is starting to dwindle here a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: before you had to start completely rebuilding your defense. So

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Speaker 1: I want players that can play now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to think that if you go all

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Speaker 3: the way to thirty one thirty two. I don't know

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Speaker 3: enough about Rake Straw, but I'd have some interest there.

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Speaker 3: But the way the corner is flying off the board,

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Speaker 3: I doubt he's still available. Thomas won't be there the

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Speaker 3: receiver who I love, but it's kind of.

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Speaker 2: A luxury pick. I don't know if you can afford

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Speaker 1: I don't the way this plays out, I don't want

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think you take.

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Speaker 1: Probably powers john take powers Johnson there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And one day when we do these, we should say,

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Speaker 3: like we did in the first hour, the Steelers did

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Speaker 3: sign a center and a safety, you know, like right,

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Speaker 3: you know, make up of a world where they you know,

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Speaker 3: a couple of the needs are filled.

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Speaker 2: But the way we know right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, well we'll know in a couple of weeks exactly.

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Speaker 2: I don't even have to make it up. And that's

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Speaker 2: gonna start happening Rett soon. I think you take Powers Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Think Powers Johnson is the pick. Maybe there'll be some

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Speaker 1: interest in that second round pick. And we do have

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Speaker 1: a trade offer here for the second round pick. The

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Speaker 1: players who went just ahead of us, Roman Wilson at

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Speaker 1: forty seven, Yeah, Michael Kamari Lassiter at forty eight, Xavier

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Speaker 2: They would have been the mix.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So the top players available Chop Robinson, Wow, Jonah Ellis,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Polk, Javon Bullard, Jayden Hicks, Kyrie Jackson, Chris Jenkins,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Brooks, Kaylin I say, Kaylen Bullock, Kaylen Bullock, Ricky Pier,

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Speaker 1: to say that name the tackle? Yeah, yeah, I'll ask

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Speaker 2: I'm sure his first thing answered.

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Speaker 1: Jaylen McMillan, Christian Haynes, Junior Colson, Braylan Trice. We have,

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned, one trade offer.

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Speaker 3: Chop Robinson stands as the best player, so I would

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Speaker 3: think somebody would want to come up to get.

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Speaker 1: Him the Ravens. He's a perfect raven are on the

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Speaker 1: phone they want. Therefore, they have picked sixty two ninety three,

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Speaker 1: one thirty one, one thirty four, one sixty four and

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Speaker 3: Don't forget how it's worse. Did they make us an

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Speaker 3: to make them an offer.

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Speaker 1: Two and three for obviously fifty two would be in play.

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Speaker 1: A three. Well, that's that's sixty two and ninety three.

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Speaker 1: There's a eighty one percent chance that gets accepted. So

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Speaker 1: we could get perhaps more out of them. Can we

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Speaker 1: get a future Ravens pick out?

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Speaker 2: Get rid of our seventh while we're at it. They're

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Speaker 2: not going to give us a three, they might give

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Speaker 2: us a four. I think I'd be in on that.

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Speaker 2: There wasn't a name there that I had to have

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Speaker 2: it jumped out there. Yeah, and a couple of them

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Speaker 2: will still last till the end of the second round.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to offer the tr So I've offered fifty

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Speaker 1: two and two thirty eight for sixty two ninety three

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Speaker 1: and their fourth round pick next year.

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Speaker 2: I do that even with the dreaded rat birds they accepted. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Let's resume draft here. Who do they move up to

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Speaker 1: go get Probably now they came up to get Jonah

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Speaker 1: Ellis have another rushout, yellows. Yeah, Choup Robinson goes instead

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Speaker 1: at fifty five to the Browns.

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Speaker 2: No, you're playing against them one way or another.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but now we had stuff, Now we get stuff.

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Speaker 1: So let's see what we can do here. Jayden Hicks

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Speaker 1: still available, did fit in great, Jonathan Brooks, Yale tight end,

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Speaker 1: Christian Haynes, Junior Colson, Michael Pratt, Ruke Rororoo, Davontees Walker,

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Speaker 2: All the corners got I say, I don't hear any corners.

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Speaker 1: The corners got picked over pretty good. Let's see who

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Speaker 1: is still available at that position you're looking at Jerry

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Speaker 1: and Jones, Cam Hart, Chris Abrams, Drain, Andrew Phillips. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't mind shopping. I don't mind shopping in that aisle,

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Speaker 1: but probably not in this round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we don't what are we about twenty

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Speaker 1: Yeah we have we have sixty two here, we got

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Speaker 1: eighty four.

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Speaker 3: Next, probably be one of those corners available. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean they weren't bad.

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Speaker 1: There's four or five of them there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not gonna lose a ton of sleep

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Who stands out though is to me Hicks.

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Speaker 1: Michael Pratt is available. I don't know if I want

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's third round neighborhood for me.

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Speaker 1: Colson, Aurorjo probably one of those three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, m hmm.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a real strong preference. I don't think

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Speaker 3: i'd go Colson, okay, but they're all about the same.

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Speaker 2: Auroro to me is really attractive. Yeah, but it's the

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Speaker 2: least need.

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Speaker 1: But it gives you another second round defensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: And he he fits the mold he does and with

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Speaker 2: the bonus picks, I think that's the luxury item you

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Speaker 2: can afford now. Yeah, just mold them and hey, Cam

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Speaker 2: hang out with him a lot.

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Speaker 1: We'll go that roung.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do, all right. We got two big guys, okay,

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Speaker 2: those guys off and one on ones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we are up again here at pick eighty four.

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Speaker 2: I think Corner has to take precedence.

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Speaker 1: Top players available Jalen Wright, cameraon Kinchins, Spencer Rattler, Cedric

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Speaker 1: van Pran, Blake Korum, Marshawn neland Tovandre Sweat. Cam Hart,

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Speaker 1: I think you just take heart, Yeah, Sioni Vaki is

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Speaker 2: Chris Abrams drain give me another six ' three corner. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I have a basketball team at that position.

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Speaker 1: He's in the mix. Yeah, Cam Heart, it is. We

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Speaker 1: get another pick here coming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I say, now we're now we can just kind

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Speaker 2: of take best available almost.

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Speaker 1: Cameron Kinchin's still there, all right, Spencer Rattler, Jevon Solomon,

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Speaker 1: but he's an edge. Michael Hall. We already got defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: Drew Phillips still there. Okay, you might be able to

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Speaker 1: play some slot for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He's a lot different than what's his height and

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Speaker 2: weight they've listed.

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Speaker 1: I know it's not official, but I listed at six seven.

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Speaker 1: He actually did play two hundred and twenty three snaps

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Speaker 1: in the slot last year at Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we didn't get a top two round corner,

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Speaker 2: but if we took two in the third round, and

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Speaker 2: even if one, it's you're happy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't mind the idea of throwing a

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Speaker 2: bunch at the fan and see what sticks. And they're different,

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Speaker 2: they're different styles. Yeah, yeah, that's not bad. That would

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Speaker 2: certainly be in the mix.

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Speaker 1: Maristleafu.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Ray Davis the running back from Kentucky's interesting. I

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Speaker 2: like the player.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tommy Eikenberg the linebacker out of Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Does Rattler do anything for you?

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Speaker 1: I'm interested?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just tiny. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of ability,

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Speaker 2: but he's small. Yeah. I'm fine with the Kentucky corner.

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Speaker 2: You take him over Kitchens or best linebacker available or

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Speaker 2: project tackle, the Texas tackle there one of those dudes. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The receiver that stands.

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Speaker 1: Jacob Cowing out of Arizona's available, Okay, taking a let's

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Speaker 1: we got to look at that position because I think

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Speaker 1: after too much farther here, there's there's not much attack

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Speaker 2: Wide receiver. Yeah, I would like to get a receiver.

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Speaker 1: Cowling is the best one available. Uh Ania Smith out

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Speaker 1: of Texas A and m Javon Baker out of U C.

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Speaker 3: F course I'm a fan of are you. Yeah, he

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Speaker 3: was a Bama high recruit. I think he's really interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that would be my vote of the names we've heard

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Speaker 3: so far. Really, I like Baker quite a bit. Downfield guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he was quite good this past year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can take him, all right, let's do it,

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Speaker 1: all right, Javon Baker it is now we're up here

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Speaker 1: again about that Tyke Smith, the top tailor player available. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he would fill in the Yeah, that's not bad. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you got justin the edge rusher out of Alabama. This

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Speaker 1: Boake b.

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Speaker 2: Don't know much the other one. Yeah, that genuine.

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Speaker 1: Braylan, Allen, McKinley, Jackson, Jordan Travis, will Shipley.

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Speaker 2: A mix of opinions on Jordan Travis that I forget

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Speaker 2: how it was described. I was listenings like, it's not.

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Speaker 1: Always pretty, but it gets a job done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's kind of unorthodox way of playing.

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Speaker 2: And you could reel him in for a year.

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Speaker 1: I mean they were really good when they still had him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a difference maker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's probably the end of If you're gonna

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Speaker 3: get a quarterback, it's probably now or now a premium quarterback, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean one that could maybe be a starter some

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Speaker 3: day or at least be a long term too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you're going in with Tannehill and Picket,

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Speaker 3: I'd be really interested in somebody like him.

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Speaker 1: Just looking here, there's really. I mean we filled.

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Speaker 2: Center corners, done corner, Well, it's not. We could do

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Speaker 2: a spot, we could do another corner. Another d back

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Speaker 2: in general, wouldn't be mean Tyke Smith's not. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he would play.

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Speaker 1: You know, And then it comes down to you take

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Speaker 1: Tykey Smith or do you take the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: That's about to say the exact same thing. He plays

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Speaker 2: plenty of slot though, right.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Tykey, I think he does. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think him in Bouler have done play quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: He played four and thirty four snaps there last year.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a move. You'd think you'd be a

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Speaker 2: great special teamer right off the bat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fine with it, all right, and I think

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Speaker 3: you're we have another go to the quarter right, oh yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: so now we can take quarterback now, right, I got

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Speaker 3: all screwed up after the trade forgot that we have two.

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Speaker 2: In a row.

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Speaker 1: Now, so we take Jordan Travis Ky Yeah, okay. We

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Speaker 1: had extra pick for the risk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's one of the benefits of the

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Speaker 3: trade down, is that extra pick. You get the quarterback

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Speaker 3: and maybe he's a bust and he's out a league

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Speaker 3: in two years, but maybe he ends up being a

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's your back for the next.

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Speaker 2: Time, right right, five A long way too? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Okay, our last pick here at one ninety eight Top

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Speaker 1: players available Hunter Norzad, center from Penn State. Steel Chambers,

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Speaker 1: linebacker from Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, did a little homework on him. He can fly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's gonna he's gonna be a name

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Speaker 3: at the combine. Everyone saw about Eichenberg, but this guy

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Speaker 3: has got some things to work out. But he's kind

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Speaker 3: of that will linebacker coverage space dude.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of what they need.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not bad. Yeah, we didn't take a linebacker.

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Speaker 2: We didn't take a linebacker.

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Speaker 3: He'd be helping special teams immediately fly down on kickoffs,

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Speaker 3: so he'd be in the mix for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Javan Cohen is still there.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Frank Gorge Frank Gord junior, Tyron Hopper, the linebacker at

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Speaker 1: of Missouri.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Jase McClellan, the running half back out of Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Running back kind of works, but I think I'd rather

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Speaker 2: get a young defensive player.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather I think I think I Steel Chambers might be.

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Speaker 2: The Yeah, yeah, it's no problem with that. At all. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we might. I have a feeling he's gonna test really well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, six two.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he was highly recruited and you know, has

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Speaker 2: some athletic ability. Yeah, now that fits in.

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Speaker 1: All right, we can add another young linebacker to the

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Speaker 1: mix with steel Chambers and steal to the.

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Speaker 2: Steelers say it's perfect. Yeah, Steely mcbeam will give him

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Speaker 2: a big hug.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're getting our great here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't care about the.

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Speaker 1: Grea Jackson powers Johnson gets us an A minus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Cool.

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Speaker 1: Uh, we did the course the trade, Rue Carroro. We

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Speaker 1: got a C.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I can't bet that changes after the combine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, cam Hart, we got a B.

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Speaker 2: Pick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Javon Baker was a dally Tyke Smith was an

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Speaker 1: a nice Jordan Travis a C plus steel chambers and

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Speaker 1: a minus. Overall, we got a B plus grade.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I mean certainly helped special teams, addressed a lot of needs.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully you have address, i'd say, and we kind of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we got even got the quarterback. We

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Speaker 1: the offensively, we get a center wide receiver. Quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: then defensively we got everything but defensive line and a cornerback,

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Speaker 1: a safety and a linebacker.

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Speaker 2: Everything.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, which is really what you want, right.

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Speaker 3: You didn't need a tight end, you didn't need a

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Speaker 3: running back. A tackle would have been nice.

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Speaker 1: It would have been nice.

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Speaker 3: Might have been this thing that's such as life, you know. Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's so bad.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, save this image. Oh yeah, I forgot. We're doing that.

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Speaker 1: We want to go over which one we like the

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Speaker 1: best at the end of the week. We'll do that

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Speaker 1: on Friday.

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Speaker 2: Friday.

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Speaker 1: We can trade Friday, we can trade like crazy. We

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Speaker 1: could end up trading down seventeen times.

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Speaker 2: We didn't get a great offer in round one.

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Speaker 1: We didn't know. Yeah, and usually there's three four to

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Speaker 1: probably not.

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Speaker 3: Especially the way the corners were falling. You know, the

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Speaker 1: There were there were basically three guys that we would

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Speaker 1: I'm not moving farther down than twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. We also end up with the Ravens pick next year.

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Speaker 1: And we got a Ravens pick this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, every time we beat him, we get a better pick.

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Speaker 3: If we would have picked a thirty one or thirty two,

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Speaker 3: because the most Super Bowl teams offered us a deal,

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Speaker 3: I think we'd ended up with like Graham Barton.

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Speaker 1: Well let's see who was available. Yeah, okay, So if

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Speaker 1: we'd have traded down, Graham Barton went at twenty Fivester.

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Speaker 2: Ten Powers, Johnson got picked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The picks after ours Jerson Newton, Jared Versy, Brian Thomas, Enus, Rakestraw,

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Speaker 1: Graham Barton, Troy Franklin, Peyton Wilson, Tyler Geton a twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: Lab McConkie at twenty nine, Mims win at thirty.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, whenever you mentioned Geiton and Mems

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Speaker 2: not being there, if I was sitting there at thirty

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Speaker 2: two or thirty one, maybe I'd try to get to

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Speaker 2: twenty seven, you know, and give up less than we

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Speaker 2: went to go backwards.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Tyler Nuban went at thirty one, and then

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Speaker 1: Troy Fatanu at thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Someone mark Fatani to the Steelers at twenty the other.

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Speaker 1: Day, and I'm like, we're going to do that draft next.

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Speaker 2: What's that Okay, all right, I don't love that little teacher.

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Speaker 1: I don't either. We'll talk about that when real.

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Speaker 2: You're taking at thirty one.

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Speaker 1: Mm Zach Fraser went at thirty five.

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Speaker 2: That'd been consideration.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Nuban would have been a consideration to think for

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Speaker 1: me as well. I thought he was gone give him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well he went at thirty one.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, Yeah, it wouldn't been terrible. I mean he

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Speaker 3: could have been best available. Yeah, and just looking here

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Speaker 3: at the teach that had a lot more stuff.

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Speaker 1: If we went to thir t Tampa was the next

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Speaker 1: cornerback taking at thirty nine, that's yeah, I'm not taking

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Speaker 1: him that high. Maybe Darius Robinson, that'd be interesting to be. Yeah, consideration.

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Speaker 3: I mean we'd probably had an extra second and some

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Speaker 3: more stuff. But okay, I don't feel terrible about missing it.

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Speaker 1: Then, No, I don't either. That was our second mock draft.

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Speaker 1: This week. We'll do our third with lots of trades

467
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Speaker 1: on Friday. Everybody likes the trades.

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Speaker 2: Trades are fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah tomorrow we were Friday. We might just get unrealistically

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Speaker 3: insane with it.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're gonna have extra first round picks next year.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we loaded absolutely seventeen guys.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, let's a let's take a break here. He is

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I'm dal Lallie. You're listening to the drive

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll go over that mock draft

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Speaker 1: cool that Matt was just talking about right after this

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Speaker 1: welcome back. I'm Dale Lollie. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: And Matt referenced a mock draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did.

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Speaker 1: It kind of gave away the Steelers. But Daniel Jeremiah's

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Speaker 1: mock draft two point zero.

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Speaker 3: Again we talked about an hour ago. This is the

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Speaker 3: media is starting to catch up with some stuff coming

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Speaker 3: out of buildings and things like this.

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Speaker 2: Mocks change a lot right around combined time. But I

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Speaker 2: didn't love who they have the Steelers time. I didn't

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Speaker 2: like it either. So if you didn't hear, pretend like

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Speaker 2: you don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you were paying attention. H So, he has

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams going number one to the Bears, Drake Mayott

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Speaker 1: two to Washington, the Patriots take Marvin Harrison at three.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think you and I have leaned that

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Speaker 3: way towards you could either try to get fields. You

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Speaker 3: could even sign Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, or maybe you trade back up for McCarthy

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Speaker 3: or take Pennix or Nicks or whomever. I mean, there's

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Speaker 3: other options.

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Speaker 1: Because they're more than a quarterback away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they got the best player in the draft probably, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's it's hard to turn your nose up

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Speaker 2: at Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They need a couple of drafts to rebuild that to

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Speaker 1: a large degree.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd go a long way to start in a

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Speaker 2: passing game. Go in the right direction. Though.

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Speaker 1: Arizona then takes Malik Neighbors.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, got it.

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Speaker 1: At five, the Chargers take Joe Alt.

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Speaker 3: I think that's more and more of a possibility too.

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Speaker 3: It's just such a Harbaugh thing to do. And it's

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Speaker 3: funny because I knew I ruined it last segment because

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Speaker 3: I was listening to Bucky and DJ's conversation and they

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Speaker 3: they you know, they do a podcast based off the

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Speaker 3: mock and why he went with Alt here is to

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Speaker 3: no shock the Harbaugh connection. The Chargers hired someone from

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Speaker 3: the Ravens organization I forget his name to be the

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Speaker 3: general manager, and DJ's like I was with the Ravens

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Speaker 3: when we drafted Jonathan Ogden in the first round and

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Speaker 3: he played guard for a year. You know, like those

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Speaker 3: people don't care. They're just gonna take lineman and they're

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Speaker 3: gonna run the ball and Pimpkins could be the right

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Speaker 3: tackle and Alt can be a guard for the year

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Speaker 3: and then I'll move them the right tackle or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Like It's a very Harbor Ravens thing to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At six, the Giants take Jade and Daniels. This

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Speaker 1: is the problem if you're if you're air Zona and

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Speaker 1: the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you could be one and New England passes

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Speaker 2: on the quarterback, yeah, you're gonna get the phone's gonna

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Speaker 2: be ringing.

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Speaker 3: You know, especially the Vikes Denver, those type of teams,

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Speaker 3: the Falcons, Falcons, if you don't want to go far.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 1: At seven, the Titans en take for Shannu.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah it ate they're bumbaults gone probably, you know.

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Speaker 1: At eight, the Falcons take jj McCarthy, the quarterback out

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Speaker 1: of Michigan.

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Speaker 3: We did a mock the other day and I put

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Speaker 3: him there too. I mean, I don't love McCarthy, but

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Speaker 3: everyone's saying Combine is going to be great for him.

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah, blah maybe yeah, I mean you'd

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Speaker 3: be happy about that for your Steelers.

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Speaker 1: At nine the Bears in take dun Now you're real happy,

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Speaker 1: which is why you know. To me, it just makes

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Speaker 1: sense to move down. Moved down a couple of spots.

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Speaker 3: But even just think of how this went, you get

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Speaker 3: Williams and a dunez A. You probably get a second

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Speaker 3: for Fields, if not more.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's almost no wrong answer for the Bears again,

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Speaker 2: the fact that the dune Jay falls as far as

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Speaker 2: all those future first Oh, I know, I know I

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Speaker 2: love that kind of stuff too, but I wouldn't love

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Speaker 2: taking Jared Verf's there no yeah or something like that.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Jets send take Talasi.

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Speaker 3: Fuaga, Okay, I know DJ is very very high on him. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's good and it'll combine will do him a lot

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Speaker 3: of favors. Though against Geiton Mims Latham.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know he'll probably end up putting up like

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Speaker 1: forty reps on the NA ridiculously strong.

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Speaker 2: He also has some super long arms, which is good

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Speaker 2: for that.

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Speaker 1: The Vikings and take Dallas Turner think could be pretty

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Speaker 1: happy with that. Denver takes first.

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Speaker 2: Okay, none of these edge rushers blow up to be honest,

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Speaker 2: but I also haven't studied them as much as other positions.

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Speaker 1: At thirteen, the Raiders take Terry and Arnold. Sure.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen a lot of people talk about

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Speaker 2: corner runs early and hasn't happened yet.

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Speaker 1: Keeps happening in our Pro Football Focus drafts. And fourteen,

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Speaker 1: the Saints take Jays laughing.

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Speaker 2: It's guys pick up Ramcheck's injuries. Worse than I thought.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At fifteen, the Colts take Nate Wiggins.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that adds up. I mean they drafted a bunch

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Speaker 2: of corners, but none of them look like stars.

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Speaker 1: At sixteen, Seattle a weird spot for Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think they could go like five different directions.

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks take Byron Murphy, the defensive tackleing of Texas.

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Speaker 3: That's a Ravens type of move, you know, it could

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Speaker 3: be their matter book type.

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Speaker 1: At seventeen, the Jaguars take Quinya and Mitchell when are

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Speaker 1: back out of Toledo.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he'll be there at twenty now.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he will either. They're the team they

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Speaker 1: could go for a cornerback. They could go Jackson powers Johnson,

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Speaker 1: they could go a lot of different ways that they

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Speaker 1: could really kind of line up with what the Steelers

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Speaker 1: might be looking at.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they made influence the Steelers pick quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: At eighteen, the Bengals then take Brock Bauers.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's a luxury pick. But Burrow, Bauers, Chase

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Speaker 3: and Higgins doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Solve their offense. They didn't hold it right tackle huge.

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Speaker 2: Boy, that's some firepower though.

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Speaker 1: At nineteen, the Rams take Jackson Powers. Johnson a center

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Speaker 1: and the center and the other one is a free agent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that could absolutely happen.

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Speaker 1: At twenty, the Steelers take Troy Fatanu and.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it.

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Speaker 1: Why yeah, right? Why? He projects a guard. Your guards

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Speaker 1: are fine.

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Speaker 2: Guards are fine. Again.

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Speaker 1: I listened to the podcast.

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Speaker 3: They don't spend a ton of time on every pick,

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Speaker 3: and he didn't really dig into this.

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Speaker 1: Here's what he says. Pittsburgh invested in its offensive line

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Speaker 1: of round one for the second year in a row.

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Speaker 1: Fatanu fits the physical identity the Steelers are looking to create.

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Speaker 1: He can play anywhere on the line, but it would

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Speaker 1: be fun to watch him line up next to twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three first round draft pick Broderick Jones. He's projecting

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Speaker 1: him at guard.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Again, if you made that, then you're you're telling James

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Speaker 1: Daniels you're playing center. Yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think I'd still put him at right tack.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if if you told me I have to

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Speaker 3: take him at twenty, I don't know, it just doesn't

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Speaker 3: add up to me.

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Speaker 2: No Lineman adds up, but not him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if he's your best guy available, if you

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Speaker 1: have a top twelve grade on him, and get it.

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Speaker 1: But again, we talked it like.

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Speaker 3: If I like the player, it's like Scorronsky last year.

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Speaker 3: You know it's don't that's the thing that builds your

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Speaker 3: line the way you want it to.

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Speaker 1: At twenty one, the Dolphins take Lay two.

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Speaker 2: They could go a lot of directions Rushla. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: At twenty two, the Eagles take Enis Rakestraw.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: At twenty three, Houston takes Brian Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, I imagine it, Matt. That's a pick you make

635
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Speaker 2: when you're in that situation. Wow.

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Speaker 1: At twenty four, of the Cowboys take Tyler.

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Speaker 2: Geiton, Okay, I would have taken Guyton ahead of who

638
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Speaker 2: DJ had him taken.

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Speaker 1: Well, I get somebody else.

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Speaker 2: I would have taken it and he's the next pick.

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Speaker 1: At twenty five, the Packers take Cooper Dejen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think i'd take the gene over all the

643
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Speaker 3: possible tackles, including Latham. Yeah, you know, as it stands today.

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Speaker 1: At twenty six, the Buccaneers take a Donnie Mitchell, the

645
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Speaker 1: wide receiver out of Texas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think there's a really good chance

647
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Speaker 2: they lose Evans. It's also it's lying season. But yeah,

648
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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's from Evans agent. But Evans and then

649
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Speaker 2: Bucks are super far away and blah blah blah blah. Yeah,

650
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Speaker 2: you know.

651
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Speaker 1: At twenty seven, Arizona takes Darius Robinson, the big defensive tech,

652
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: a good fit for them, out of Missouri.

653
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: At twenty eight, Buffalo takes Chop Robinson.

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Speaker 2: None of the guys have really worked out. They can

656
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Speaker 2: go a lot of directions to.

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Speaker 1: Enter Flori's contract expiring. You're not going to bring back

658
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Speaker 1: Von Miller.

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Speaker 3: One thing DJ did say on the podcast was Robinson,

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Speaker 3: who went to the Cardinals he really thinks is a

661
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: surefire first round pick. Yeah, yeah, probably in the you know,

662
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: to a playoff team.

663
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: But at twenty nine, Detroit takes Zach Frazier.

664
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 3: Wow, Well their guards are up. Yeah, I mean they

665
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: have one of the best centers in the league. I

666
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: mean that doesn't I wouldn't.

667
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: Like, I don't see Fraser projecting to play a guard

668
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and he ever has He did it? Yeah,

669
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: he did it West Virginia for a Yeah. You see,

670
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: I think it's maybe early in his career.

671
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: Okay, but he's not real tall, No, he's not.

672
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: And you've got one of the You've got maybe the

673
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: best center in the league.

674
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of like the Steelers O line pick.

675
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: It's like, I see him going in that neighborhood. It

676
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 3: just doesn't seem to fit the need in the makeup

677
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: of the line.

678
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: Right.

679
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: Then at thirty the Ravens take are Marius Mims.

680
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: I think he'd gone I were taking him ahead of

681
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: Fatana or whatever.

682
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And at thirty one, San Francisco takes Graham Barton.

683
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: That'd be a good fit for them, I mean, he'd

684
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: fit play somewhere on the interior. Yeah, yeah, immediately.

685
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: And at thirty two, Kansas City takes Troy Franklin, the

686
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver from Wergon.

687
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a field stretcher's certainly in the mix there.

688
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean maybe he just wanted to get Fatanu

689
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: in the top twenty somewhere.

690
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 3: It's kind of like Bowers and that doesn't fit Bowers

691
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 3: of the Bengals. It's like, I can't have him fall

692
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: any further. I have to shove him in there somewhere.

693
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: Like Fatanu would make more sense even in Cincinnati.

694
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: Yes, be a right tackle, yeah or whatever. Yeah, I

695
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: mean they could even use the center too.

696
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't love that pick at all.

697
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: I think Fatanu on DJ's top fifty is pretty darn high. Yeah,

698
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,239
Speaker 3: so that's probably what happened, is he's looking at it

699
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,239
Speaker 3: like I don't want this guy fall into thirty, right,

700
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: and he probably won't.

701
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: I just don't think he fits here.

702
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: No, I don't. And they do have the if.

703
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: You remember Atlanta took Berger on last year. I'm just

704
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: thinking about Arthur Smith and he was kind of that

705
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 3: guy tackle at Syracuse. Yeah, plugged him in a guard

706
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: and he was fine, but in leading guard.

707
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: If you look at it, the Lance Airline has his

708
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: grades up now. He gives him a six point four

709
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: to one, which means he'll will become a good starter

710
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: in two years.

711
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And if you.

712
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: Look at the positives and negatives. Plays with lateral hustle

713
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: to make backside and play side zone blocks, works the

714
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: center and land with finesse post contact, generates pass or

715
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: push from the lower half on down blocks and double teams.

716
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: Sets out to the rusher with good lateral quickness and

717
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: need bend. Maintains active hands and feet to stay in

718
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: front of the rusher and keeps his weight back to

719
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: avoid being countered off balance and protection.

720
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 2: He's a good player.

721
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: Weaknesses longer opponents gaining extension and ride him out of block.

722
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: Sustained run blocking technique eventually gets away from him. Has

723
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: issues with hand slippage due to inconsistent placement, slow to

724
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: fire his pass bunch and rarely closes the rusher down

725
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: with a hand latch and gets beaten inside when he's

726
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: too eager. Oversets to the edge.

727
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean some of those are correctable stuff, right,

728
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: The length isn't. Yeah.

729
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: The source said he comes from a good program and

730
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: he's a hard nosed player who can take coaching. Love

731
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: the makeup, I mean again, I like that part too.

732
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: I left the player.

733
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: I do too.

734
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: I watched him quite a bit.

735
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 3: You know, they were on TV quite a bit and

736
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, he's a really good prospect.

737
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't think for the Steeler.

738
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: Like I want him for the the Dolphins that have

739
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: multiple align needs or the Niners.

740
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: You know where you've one guy.

741
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 3: In place and Tennessee like Skeronsky last year. You know, like, yeah,

742
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: you could do this or this, like I want a center,

743
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: or I want to tackle right or both.

744
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to those are more specific spots.

745
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 3: I want a true center, or I want to six

746
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 3: or six dude with condor arms, you know what I mean.

747
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm in the mood for. Or I'm

748
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: or I'm living with.

749
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: What I got. Yeah, we're cornerback.

750
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I'm just about o line needs. Yeah. And again,

751
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: the Gene would be gladly take him. Yeah, yeah somewhere.

752
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I you know they I think the

753
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: Gene would be my pick of the guys that went

754
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 3: after him in the first.

755
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: Is he the guy who were starting to see the

756
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: most variance?

757
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah with yeah, yeah, and I think just.

758
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: A mock draft he went fifth.

759
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: Fifth.

760
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: I said this for a while.

761
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 3: I fear that after the combine he's first defensive player

762
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: of the board.

763
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's.

764
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 3: Those nine offensive dudes, the bowers, the two tackles, three receivers,

765
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: three quarterbacks, but no one knows who the tenth guy

766
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: is or the first defensive player is. There's room to

767
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 3: that's that's there for the stealing. Yeah, it could be him.

768
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, although it makes some sense hardball taking at five

769
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: a big ten cornerback.

770
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's it's that's somewhat of an advantage that he has.

771
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 3: He recruited all those dudes, played against all those dudes.

772
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: Hopefully he doesn't use it as a as a crutch

773
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: and say I'll just take the Michigan guy. Yeah the

774
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: year as with the Browns, We've seen that work both ways. Yeah,

775
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: butch did the took it to the extreme?

776
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: Is he?

777
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: This is a true story, like they were. They left

778
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: the day before the draft.

779
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 3: I wasn't there yet, and everyone in the building thought

780
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: they were taking Richard Seymore. He gets there the next

781
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: morning and they take your Ard Warren because he recruited

782
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 3: him heavily, and he was from Florida and he knew

783
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 3: the family, and he felt more comfortable. He couldn't sleep

784
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: at night not you know, with that and that obviously

785
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: didn't work out. And if you look at those teams

786
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: that I was a part of, so many dudes from

787
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 3: the U. But they were the U. They were awesome players.

788
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 3: Like they drafted Winslow right before I got there because

789
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: they knew more of them. And even like they took

790
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: Green the running back from Boston College. Yeah, I couldn't

791
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: remember the first name because they played against him in

792
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: the Big East, like they'd have anyone from Colorado or

793
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: Washington or USC or you know from that. They were

794
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: playing with a really short deck and then luckily they

795
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 3: used a good place.

796
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: To get shot.

797
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: Worked out for Jimmy Johnson. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't work

798
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: out all the time though, right, all.

799
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: Right, I mean he happened to know eight men super well.

800
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: And you'd also don't get the Minnesota Vikings trading you

801
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: have their draft.

802
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, you know for Herschman us from a short

803
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 3: deck is crazy. But if Harbaugh has does have certainly

804
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 3: a knowledge of these dudes, a lot of them since

805
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 3: they were sixteen years old, Yeah, which is helpful.

806
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to another break. He is the Matt

807
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: Williamson that was Daniel Jeremiah's second go at a mock

808
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: draft by the way. I'm Dale Lollie and you're listening

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Speaker 1: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be

810
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Speaker 2: I would imagine, And we have so many listeners. We

819
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: don't talk about this much. We have so many listeners

820
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: from not in Pittsburgh too. Yeah, you know, I mean

821
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: just from all over the country, all over.

822
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: The more of our listeners are from not in Pittsburgh

823
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: than Pittsburgh, probably true. Yeah, good stuff. Absolutely, Steelers on

824
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: their website, it looks like Mike Sullivan. They've settled on

825
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: a title for Mike Sullivan Senior offensive assistant.

826
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 2: Good good.

827
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: Hindsight's easy, But I thought last offseason somebody like that

828
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: should have been in the mix, and I think he's

829
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: a perfect background history with the team to be that's

830
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: a highly respected job, you.

831
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 2: Know what I mean. Those the personnel, right, and he's

832
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: not with the running backs every day or the receivers

833
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 2: every day, but you oversee it all.

834
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 3: You have the head coach and coordinators year in a

835
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 3: big way, and you're kind of consulgetti, you know, I mean,

836
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: you know it's an important part.

837
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

838
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 1: So the staff is pretty much said at this point now,

839
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: a lot more guys on offense than defense.

840
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: That's always the case, but still it's not a gigantic

841
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: staff by NFL standards.

842
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: Especially, it's bigger now than it used to be.

843
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 2: Two.

844
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,479
Speaker 1: Well, I'll just kind of assist. It's one, two, three, four, five.

845
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: That's ten and then eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,

846
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: seventeen including special teams, including special teams.

847
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and eighteen is with Tomlin with coach right, Yeah, okay,

848
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: so yeah, it's so crazy.

849
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: I see some of these other teams that have like

850
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: thirty guys on staff.

851
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand the value. You know that, Hey, you

852
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: go do this little thing, you go deal with that,

853
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: you develop, you know, the.

854
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: Scout team guys for future years. But sometimes I just

855
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 2: think it's too many cooks.

856
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: And it's overkill.

857
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's overkill, yeah, especially you.

858
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: Know, and then I start seeing these guys like, well,

859
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: this guy, you know, he was the passing game coordinator

860
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: on third downs or third down passing game coordinator for

861
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: the Rams. What the hell is that? What is that?

862
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 3: And I always wonder too, like on game day does

863
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 3: that cause confusion? You know, like starting five, who's in

864
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 3: charge you know at the passing game dude or head

865
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 3: coach or the offense coordinator, quarterback coach. I mean, I

866
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 3: know they lay it all out, but it could be

867
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 3: a lot of people on the headsets and game day too.

868
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: And that's the thing that you don't when you don't

869
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: want too many cooks in the kitchen. I wonder if

870
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: and we'll find out more about this, maybe Omar Khan

871
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: will spill the beans on it next week, or Mike

872
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: Tomlin talks at the at the owner's me.

873
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: Both those things are right on the horizon. Yeah, yeah, you.

874
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: Know, maybe part of Sullivan's job as being the guy

875
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: who helps with.

876
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: Replace Oh okay, that would be smart, Like yeah, you.

877
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: Know that was when Taroll Austin was the senior defensive assistant.

878
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: He really didn't have a title. Yeah, that was what

879
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: he did, really in a box.

880
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, I mean they haven't been good at it.

881
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: To be fun, they've been better than they went through

882
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: a stretch where they weren't good at Yeah, where Tomlin,

883
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: you know, missed on some He bets around five hundred

884
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: since then and he never gets any rate. That's not true.

885
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's also not as easy a job as you

886
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: think it really is.

887
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 3: I used to sit right next to the Browns guy

888
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 3: when we were there and times were different then. But

889
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 3: he's watching the TV's watching scoreboard. I mean, I'm sure

890
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 3: you could do something with your phone or tablet at

891
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 3: some point, but.

892
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 2: The thing is going to do it now. When you're

893
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: on the road and the road's difficulty.

894
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: You're not seeing it on the scoreboard because if it's

895
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 1: a close play and it goes against the home team,

896
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: they're not showing it.

897
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, they're not showing starting and the scroud

898
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: noise on stuff. It's easier when you're sitting at home

899
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: drinking beer.

900
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you're hoping that they show a replay

901
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: on TV before you have to get the play call

902
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: in Oh, otherwise the head coach has to make a

903
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: bang bangs, you know, call on.

904
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I bet the league in general.

905
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: As well under fifty it's under fifty percent.

906
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that adds up because there's probably a couple of

907
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: no brainers and there is something happen as much anymore,

908
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 3: there are some you.

909
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: Know, you're never like spot of the ball in a

910
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: pile a pile is never getting overturned. No, because they

911
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: can't see the hash marks. They can't see like, it

912
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: just doesn't get overturned.

913
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

914
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: The only time you see spot of the ball overturned

915
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: is if it's in the open field and there's a

916
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: hash mark close by. There's there's some kind.

917
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 3: Of element on the field that they can judge it against,

918
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 3: or it fumbles out of bounds and they didn't give it,

919
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 3: you know, the right spot.

920
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: Otherwise it's not getting overturned, like there are.

921
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: Certain there was any war time. I wonder if that

922
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 3: should be a coach or not. I mean, I've never

923
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: given as much thought. I just know with the Browns,

924
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: it was like an administrative scout type guy you know

925
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 3: that did have a position coach to coach or whatever,

926
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: you know, Sullivan is going to be very involved with

927
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: the play sequencing and the boy the left tackles having

928
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 3: a tough time or we're mashing them on the right side.

929
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

930
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 1: Well, the interesting thing is the dynamics would be interesting.

931
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: Is you know, is Arthur Smith going to be on

932
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: the field? Yeah, in Sullivan in the box or vice versa.

933
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this answer. Do you

934
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 3: know if Smith was on the field or in the

935
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 3: box with the Titans, I don't. Obviously as the head

936
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 3: coach he was.

937
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's maybe more comfortable on the field.

938
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: I say maybe. I mean he's done for three years

939
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: in a row. I don't know. That's suff's interesting though.

940
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's things that are going to be kind of

941
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: sussed out here over the next.

942
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 2: I bet him and Sullivan or in opposite spots.

943
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, they won't be on the same spot. Yeah, kind

944
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: of my point with that, like one will be upstairs,

945
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 1: one won't be downstairs. Because maybe your quarterbacks coach wants

946
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: to be on the field. You have to you have

947
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: to have somebody.

948
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 3: Oh sitting there going right next to your head go

949
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: line coaches are always on the field. They got their

950
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 3: boys together and or you know, to get your hands

951
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 3: on and get dirty with them. One of the guys

952
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 3: will be like that with the quarterbacks, probably the quarterback coach.

953
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 1: Probably, yeah, the quarterback coach, and maybe Sullivan's upstairs.

954
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah that adds up, Yeah, that adds up. I am

955
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 2: glad that they brought back both interim coordinators.

956
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because you know Kenny's gonna be here, You're

957
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 3: It indicates to me there won't be wholesale changes with

958
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 3: the offense.

959
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: Of course, they'll be changes, they'll be major changes, but

960
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: I bet you think there's a better chance that you

961
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: keep the run game intact as it is. Things like that,

962
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: you know, And.

963
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: Honestly, both guys did a good job what they were

964
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: thrown at him last year.

965
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 3: They had a tough thing to tough road to Hoe,

966
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 3: and I thought they did quite well.

967
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so a loop, they got a lot of the

968
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: run game, you know.

969
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe that you know, you look at that,

970
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: and maybe Mason Rudolph looks out and goes, wow, these guys.

971
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's more appealing to me to come back. Yeah, yeah,

972
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: I think that's possible. So, no good the staff is

973
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: in place. I'm glad Sullivan's returned good.

974
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, anyways, that's going to do it for the

975
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: show today, Matt. One more show before we're on. Oh

976
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 1: I did hear that. I was listening to some NFL

977
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: radio in the way here. It looks like Mike Williams

978
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: is going to be the odd man out. Oh really

979
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 1: with the Chargers.

980
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: Okay, curious what he gets on the open market with

981
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: his injury history, but talent, I mean, okay, so that's

982
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 3: pretty much a done deal.

983
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, Okay, they still going to make I would

984
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: assume it's going to be Khalil Mack, but who knows.

985
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 3: It could be multiple. I'm sure they're trying to get

986
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 3: some trade offers. Yeah for those guys, but there's too much.

987
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 3: Money's too much, that's brutal.

988
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: Too much. But anyways, that's going to do it for

989
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: our show today. So for my partner Matt Williamson, for

990
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: Justin Miller here on site keeping us on the air,

991
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: I am Dale, Lolly, and we thank you for listening

992
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: to this edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.