1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: It is Monday, July thirtieth, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen, episode 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: number sixteen. Welcome to another edition of The Break. We're 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: live from Oxnard, California, talking Cowboys football. Got Nick, I 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: got Amber, I got Dave, and let's go, guys. I remember, 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: how's everybody doing this one? I think we're doing well, good, awesome, 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: good great players are off, but we're not. We keep 13 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: grinding on a Monday. I don't know what that training kings. 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: This training camp. We don't take days off. We got 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: plenty of stuff to talk about this weekend. The Cowboys, 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: uh get their first taste of padded practices that happened 17 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: on Saturday and Sunday, so a lot of stuff coming 18 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: out of that. We'll talk about some of the observances 19 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: that you guys had. Nick, you had some time yesterday 20 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: to talk to Sean Lee in what was semi exclusive 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: a couple of one of the other person was there. 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: But we'll talk to you a little bit about that, 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: and let you tell us a little bit about what 24 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: Shawn's talking about. These days. We'll get into some injury talk. 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: There are a few guys that are popping up there. 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: Not a lot of big injuries so far, but a 27 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: few injuries that we kind of need to keep an 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: eye on. We'll talk about that, and then we'll have 29 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: some questions that will kind of health fans recap this 30 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: first week of training camp in the first two days 31 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: of padded practices. We'll get into that to round out 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: the show in around the third segment. So let's get 33 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: started first. As I want to do every day during 34 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: the show, I just want to go down the line 35 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: and everybody give me an observance. So this can come 36 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: from either of the two days. Over the last two 37 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: days of training camp, give me one observance, one thing 38 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: you noticed that stood out to you. You'll start with 39 00:01:55,240 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: you Dave's observance a word observation. Servation. Observance is not 40 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: a word. I don't I might know, I'm not I'm 41 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: not sound, just sounds weird to me. It did sound 42 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: weird to me. Let me see, I'm gonna look it up. 43 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: Why do you say I'm gonna find that? Since you 44 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: let me go first, I'm just gonna be this is 45 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: any position any Yeah, observance is a word I saw 46 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: we were talking about one specific position. Are we going tomorrow? 47 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: Did you not pay attention in the pre show meeting? 48 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: Honestly not? Here's all right, whatever, I know, I'm just 49 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: gonna I'm just gonna take the easy one, since you 50 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: let me go first. Yes, give me an observance, My guy, 51 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: you're a guy Byron Jones. What's up, dude? You look 52 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: good out there on the boundary. You really do. I 53 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: know it's two days, but he looks really nice. He 54 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: had a pick of Dak Prescott in the first practice 55 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: he made. He's made this type of play before at safety, 56 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: but yesterday and one on ones, lancelin Or kind of 57 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: beat him with a little double move. How a step 58 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: or so on him didn't matter, caught up to him. 59 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: You know, it's almost like a trademark play at this point, 60 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: the diving kind of not even a bat down, but 61 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: like the tap away just he's got the athleticism to 62 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: play that position, and I think, you know, thinking about 63 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: it critically, Like I said, he's made that play as 64 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: a safety, but there's so much more you need to 65 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: know as a safety as opposed to just stick your man, 66 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: you know, and with that type of athleticism, maybe we 67 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: should have seen or maybe we should have given him 68 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: more credit for being able to do that, because he 69 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: looks like a natural through two days. I know there's 70 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: a lot to go, but he looks really good. Yeah, 71 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with a few coaches stange Lal. Some 72 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: of the things that he has been doing with the 73 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: receivers that I haven't seen before happening here. I really 74 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: enjoy one of them being like certain drills that he 75 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: does with the like balancing and how they are able 76 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: to improve their balance, the hand grip where they carry 77 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: these little blocks and just carry down the field to 78 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: help that grip. And Chris Ristar, I mean, just watching 79 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: him is absolutely entertaining, the passion that he brings, how 80 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: he involved he is. You see him running around the 81 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: whole field coaching each guy right after a play, doesn't 82 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: matter what play it is, He'll go right up to 83 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: him and just give them some points about how that 84 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: went down or what to do next, and it's absolutely 85 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: amazing to me just to see that. I like what 86 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm seeing so far from what the Cowboys are doing 87 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: with Tavon Austin. There really doesn't seem to be any 88 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: kind of what position as he forget those questions. You know, 89 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: he might run the ball occasionally, but he looks like 90 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. They're playing him in that role. Jerry 91 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: Jones said yesterday that he might be just as important 92 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: with the ball out of his hands then when he's 93 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: got the ball as a decoy, but you can't do 94 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: that unless you show that he can, you know, get 95 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: the ball and go vertically a little bit. I think 96 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: this team's throwing the ball down the field a little 97 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: bit more from what I've seen, which is also a 98 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: good thing if you at the players to do it. 99 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: So I like what I've seen out of Tavon. We 100 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday, a lot of lucky whitehead stuff 101 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: when he went east west, but we are seeing him 102 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: kind of go down the field Tavon a little bit more. 103 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: So I like that. Yeah, I will throw in one observation, 104 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: and to me, this observation is kind of what you 105 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: would have expected. But it's been so much better than 106 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: what I thought it could be. This offensive line has 107 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: been extremely dominant, and the best part about it is 108 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: the person that I thought would be the weak link 109 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: because he's the young guy. He has been, in my opinion, 110 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: just as good as any of the rest of them. 111 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: I've seen him in one on ones, We've seen him 112 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: in situations where where they're doing a team drill. And 113 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: this offensive line is just looking very very good right now. 114 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: And I was talking to Nat about it yesterday. Nate 115 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: said he believes that right now this is the best 116 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: he's seen this offensive line in years, and that goes 117 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: back for the last several years, over years when they've 118 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: had great play. Now, of course, this is just two 119 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: days into practice, but all that being said, right now, 120 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: the way they're performing out here, it's really really impressive. 121 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: Connor Williams looks very nice. Yeah, that's not the Lyle 122 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: Collins looks very nice too. We can do that all 123 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: it does. You're right, You're right. I'll give him. I'll 124 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: give him the look. And it's actually interesting. We got 125 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: our first a little skirmish yesterday. Lyle Collins and Uh 126 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: and Uh was at Taco, and the skirmish was because 127 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: one guy in one position, one side of the ball 128 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: was just better than the other and they were just dominant. 129 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: And Taco wasn't mad because anything really Lyle did other 130 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,119 Speaker 1: than just I mean threw them down to the ground 131 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: and it was just repeated. And this keeps happening. Tyron 132 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: Crawford is going to do the same thing either tomorrow 133 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: or the next day, just to kind of set the 134 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: tone because they're getting man handled. Tyron Smith just mean 135 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: that was just nasty. Yeah, I said this in my 136 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, we do the If you don't, you should 137 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: be reading it. We write a little observation about something 138 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: we saw a practice every day. I think we both 139 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: wrote about Tyron, didn't we Well, just just the one 140 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: guy that, you know, kind of one thing that stood 141 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: out for you. But and uh, Tyrn, Yeah, and I 142 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: think everyone could have probably gone with Tyrn. Have you 143 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: ever seen like the documentaries on the Nature Channel of 144 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: like grizzly bears fighting. That's what Tyron Smith looks like. 145 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: Like he's just just it's gross in a good way, 146 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: like he just not even fighting another bear, just like no, 147 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: like it's a grizzly bear fighting a man. Yeah, it's 148 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: and it looks so effortless too. It's like he just 149 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: goes there and okay, that's it, moves stands out or 150 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: like keeps walking, and it's like so effortless. And I 151 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: feel horrible for the for the defensive players, how they 152 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: get thrown and it's it's frustrating. I get frustrated just 153 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: watching it. I'm like, oh my god, I'm telling you, 154 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: I wrote this about Tyron Crawford. The good news is 155 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: it'll only get better than that. Yes, yeah, And because 156 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith at that level is the best left tackle 157 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: in football right yeah, now when he's kind of banged 158 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: up a little bit, and there's some others. I know, 159 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,559 Speaker 1: there's other teams that think they're left tackle maybe better, 160 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: but I think when he is playing like that, and 161 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: yesterday when they were out there in that one on 162 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: one situation, Tyrone Crawford was going against against him. Afterwards, 163 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: Tyrone got really frustrate through his helmet down and Nate 164 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: walked over to him and said something. Then afterwards, I 165 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: was like, you know, me and Shannon, we're standing there 166 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: and we said, Nate, what would you tell him? He 167 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: was like, look, the point is that's the best you're 168 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: going to face, he said. I if you can go 169 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: through those battles and even if you win two times 170 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: out of ten, like, that's the point. You're gonna play 171 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: all the guys you're gonna play, he said. When I 172 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: used to play, when I played Jerome Brown, I knew 173 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: it was gonna be a long, hard day. But I 174 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: also knew if I could play him and matches his level, 175 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: I knew that for the next six eight weeks of 176 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: the season, I was going to destroy people because nobody 177 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: was gonna be as good as Jerome Brown. So the 178 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: fact he's getting to practice with that guy and what 179 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: you saw afterwards, Tyron went and grabbed him afterwards and 180 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: said started breaking down, like here's what you did wrong. 181 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: Here's how you could have beat me right there. That's 182 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: the kind of stuff where it's gonna make Tyrone a 183 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: better player going up against Tyron. Tyrone actually sorry, which 184 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: is what DeMarcus Ware did to Time exactly when he 185 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: used to destroy him. Yeah, exactly what he would do 186 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: to him. Yeah. Tyrone talked about that after practice on Saturday, 187 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: they did the compete period in front of the whole 188 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: team and Tyrone kicked his butt and he was, you know, 189 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: that same thing, just kind of talking about pointers and 190 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: how you can get better, and he's gonna watch the tape, 191 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: and to his credit, he was like, I appreciate that. 192 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: I want to go against the best. It makes me better, 193 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. In my mind, I was just like, really, 194 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: because it sounds fun to go against the sucky guy 195 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: to me. I mean, that's just every once in a while. 196 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: He just wanted to get a win. Everyone, Yeah, well 197 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: I need that ego boost. Yeah, but they here's the thing. 198 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: If he can get to a point where like like 199 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: like Nate was saying, if he wins one out of 200 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: every ten, two out of every ten, then he is 201 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: going to be better prepared to face those those tackles 202 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: that are not Tyren Smith, which guess what, you only 203 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: gonna probably face two or three of those in a season. 204 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: For the rest of my life, I'll remember my first 205 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: training camp twenty thirteen, Like me and Nick were just like, 206 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: Tyren Smith's gonna start a left tackle for because swear 207 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: he was wearing him out. All right, let's move on. 208 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about these injuries. Um, I 209 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: first want to talk about an injury that that kind 210 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: of popped up when we first got to camp. We 211 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: haven't gotten resolution on it. I'm wondering if there is 212 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: a head coming on this one. Cavon Frasier, there was 213 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: some tests being done on his on his blood work, 214 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: and there was some maybe some anomalies that popped up. 215 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: What do you guys know at this point about Cabon 216 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: the last that I have heard and I talked with 217 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: him briefly, and he's very upbeat and optimistic about it. 218 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: I think that he thinks and that the Cowboys think 219 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: that this is just a precautionary thing, but it's not. 220 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: It's something so serious that that you have to you know, 221 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: you have to take it um, you know, make sure 222 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: that you go through all the all the steps. It's 223 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: almost like a concussion where you know, yeah, I'm fine, 224 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm fine. Well, let's just make sure that you are. Uh. 225 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: He's told me Tuesday, so tomorrow they'll be able to 226 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: get some results, okay, And and if the results are 227 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: what they are ninety five percent think that they will 228 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: be gets your helmet on and go play. That's what 229 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: he's thinking, That's what he's hoping. Good but sometimes players 230 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: say that and that that's not exactly what the trainers 231 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: and doctors say, but that's kind of what he said. 232 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: So he's got his fingers crossed that tomorrow he'll be 233 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: able to get the news he wants that he can 234 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: come back. All right, yesterday and practice, Chaz Green leaves 235 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: the field. What do we know about his situation, To 236 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: be honest with you, not a ton. Don't know a 237 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: lot on that. It's it's an off day. Jason Garrett 238 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: doesn't speak to the media. I don't. I don't know 239 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: if we've heard anything. Limped off right, that's I mean, 240 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: dehydrated the other day, limped off didn't return. Can't be 241 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: good for a guy. I mean, I'm looking at him 242 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: right now. I'm looking at Cameron Fleming, and Cameron Fleming 243 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: has been getting a lot of reps with Darren they're 244 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: kind of moving, tiring in and out, and Cameron Fleming 245 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: has looked really good. It's one of those situations where 246 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: Chaz needs the time out on the field, right, Yeah, 247 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: I just I mean, I know I'm saying something that's 248 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: common sense, but he needs that time. He needs something positive. Yeah, 249 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: he doesn't have anything really ever except for that one game. 250 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: I think ty or that yeah sixteen. I mean, he 251 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: he's just he needs he needs some reason to say, 252 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: oh yeah, this is this is you know what why 253 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: we need him around and not because he was drafted 254 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: in the third round that that's that's done. Now it's like, 255 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: what what are you doing for our football team? And 256 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just it's a nice guy, you know, 257 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: and I hope he can turn it around. He just 258 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: he hasn't done anything. I've long thought that he had 259 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: a better chance to make the team than a lot 260 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: of people gave him credit for because of what happened. 261 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: Just he's got flexibility. Say what you will, but he 262 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: does um And with Tyron Smith's injury history, you probably 263 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: want as much insurance that tackle was possible. But and 264 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: I don't know the severity of the injury, but he 265 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: needs the reps if he's gonna make that happened. That 266 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: goes for anybody who's not a bona fide starter on 267 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: the team. So hopefully we'll get an update on him. 268 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: Hopefully it's not too bad. But I don't I don't 269 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: have a detailed updates. All right, give me a quick 270 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: update on Cedric Wilson who has a shoulder injury. He 271 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: he does have a shoulder injury. Uh. Jerry Jones said, well, 272 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett said yesterday it's gonna be at least a 273 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: couple of days. And for Jason Garrett to put a 274 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: timeline on something other than day to day probably means 275 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: it's not I'm serious if I'm if he puts it, 276 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: If he if he puts an actual timeline on it, 277 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: by saying more than just a couple of days or 278 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: at least a couple of days, it's probably not good. 279 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones confirmed that, I mean, it sounds like it's 280 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: gonna be a little while for him, at least maybe 281 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: a week, if not more. Yeah, um so. And I 282 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: mean that's that's a tough blow for a guy he's 283 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: already facing an upward battle just by you know, being 284 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: a sixth round pick or seventh round pick. Um, I 285 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: think sixth round pick, right, Yeah, I think we we've 286 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: we kind of all think there's five five receivers that 287 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: are gonna that are kind of locks, you know, like 288 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: Tavon and Beasley, Gallop, Hearns. You know, those five guys 289 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: are gonna make this team. So six to ten. You know, 290 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: there's there's one or two guys that are gonna come 291 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: out of that. I think they're all kind of right there, 292 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, Lance, Lenore and which and actually and Cedric 293 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: would have been in that or I'm sure you, I'm 294 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: sure you were gonna get to this. But the other 295 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: one's Noah Brown, and he's got a hammy right now 296 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: yet and and and the leader of that next group 297 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: is Deontay Thompson because just because of the experience and 298 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: the speed that he you don't think deon Tick Thompson 299 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: is a He's definitely making this team. No way, No, 300 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm not No. Just seems like I'm not saying I'm 301 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: saying there's no way he makes the team. I'm saying lock. 302 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: The only reason I say that is because I think 303 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: he's getting a lot of reps right now. It seems 304 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: like he's getting a lot of reps. And maybe that's 305 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: because Terrence isn't out there, and then that that affects it. 306 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: But but if one of these younger guys that really emerged, 307 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: if Cedric Wilson, let's say, would have would have stayed 308 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: healthy and just been really good at and shows some 309 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: downfield threats, or or you know, maybe you know Lance 310 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: Lenore or Kadi Cannon or or mckel McKay has kind 311 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: of come up a little bit. Hey, I think we've 312 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: done a good job of putting fans onto Lance Lenore. 313 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: And obviously you don't root for injuries. He doesn't root 314 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: for injuries, I'm sure. But things are aligning for him 315 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: to do some work here because Cedric Wilson and Noah 316 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: Brown are certainly two of his biggest competitors for a 317 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: roster spot. Dudes out here running with the first team 318 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: and I mean they're mixing and matching and everybody's getting 319 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: a look, but it is clear that they are giving 320 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: Lance Lenore an opportunity. Dak Prescott loves him. We know 321 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: that that's the type that happens at training camp. That's 322 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: you got to take advantage of those opportunities. So while 323 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: we wait for Noah and Cedric to get back, that's 324 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: I mean, Kadi and Deonte for sure, but Lancelenoor is 325 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: a guy that I've got both eyes on, well, Katie 326 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: Cannon and can run like the wind. But you know 327 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: you're saying bolts not in the NFL. Yeah, you know, 328 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: I mean you have to catch it. I mean he's 329 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: having a hard time with these tough catches. I've you know, 330 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: I obviously watch him a little bit more because I've 331 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: always thought that he's a talented player and he's really 332 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: really fast, but um, he's got to come up with those. 333 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes the ball is not exactly where you 334 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: want it to be and you got to make these 335 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: tough catches. Mckel McKay, he he's he looks the party. 336 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: You know, he goes up and get and get it. Now. 337 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: I wonder McKay's I mean, he he had a circus 338 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: catch on Saturday. He almost had another one on Sunday. Uh. 339 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: He's interesting just in the sense that, like Noah Brown, 340 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: he's just he's got a body type that the rest 341 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: of these guys don't have him. He's six five, he's 342 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: not as he's not as bulky as Noah. I don't 343 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: know how he is in the blocking game, but you know, 344 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: if you're just looking for a way to diversify your 345 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: receiver group, he definitely stands out. What college are they 346 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: saying he's from, because I know he went to Arkansas 347 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: went to Arkansas, he was at Cincinnati. He's been out 348 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: of college for like two or three years, four to ten. Yeah, 349 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: big guys, lanky. Yeah, you can look when you look 350 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: at him, he's like, he's which big? What's because Noah's 351 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: Noah's six two twenty five, So I mean they're both big, 352 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: but Noah's got a little more. Yeah, he's thick, as 353 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: they say on Instagram. Yeah, yes, is that what they say? Yeah, 354 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: all right, let's go and take our first break. When 355 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: we come back, I do want to talk a little 356 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: bit about Shaun Lee. He has not been practicing. We 357 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: don't think at this point it's an injury related I'm 358 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: pretty sure it's not injury related, but he has not 359 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: been been practicing in team drills. It's been held out 360 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: quite a bit. We're gonna talk a little bit about that. 361 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: And Nick, you had an opportunity to talk to him 362 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: one on one, so we'll talk a little bit about 363 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: what some of the things you heard from him. Oh, 364 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: it's injury related, Okay, nice, we'll get to that. We'll 365 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: get to the is that when we come ba back. 366 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 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We 411 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: get back. All it really is, let's focus on now 412 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: and we're in Oxtar, California, Sunnyloint today, So let's talk 413 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: a little bit about Sean Lee NICKI had an opportunity 414 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: to talk to him yesterday. UM, I know you told 415 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: me you guys talked a little bit about kind of 416 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: what his status is. You talked a little bit about 417 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: his leadership and what he's thinking from that standpoint. Run 418 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: us through that conversation. Yeah, well, we basically just just 419 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: a couple of writers were able to talk to him, 420 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: which is always a good thing. We'll be able to 421 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: write something, um in a couple of days and really 422 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: go into kind of not not just from leadership standpoint, 423 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: but just kind of him embracing that role talking with 424 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: Jason Witten figuring out, you know, just kind of Okay, 425 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: this is this is my turn, this is me having 426 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: to wear this hat now and and what it really um, 427 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: what it really means, especially for the Dallas Cowboy, leader 428 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: of the team, and he was tested right off the 429 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: bat um with with the what happened with the with 430 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: the Dez Bryant thing, and he was uncomfortable with it. 431 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: He didn't like to do that. He doesn't want to 432 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: talk about former players and stuff like that. But this 433 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: is one of those things where you have to do 434 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: things you don't want to do. And then he had 435 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: to to step up. I thought he handled it the 436 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: right way and so but you know, he didn't want to, 437 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: but he kind of had to, which is what leaders 438 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: have to do. As far as him playing, he um, 439 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, he said that that this is a plan. 440 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: They're just kind of easing him into this situation. This 441 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: isn't the same for everybody else. Some players, you know, 442 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: they they they're getting as many reps as as they 443 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: as they can. Um, Sean Lee's gonna get as many 444 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: reps as he needs. I think that that's kind of 445 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: the way that they're they're they're approaching this. And he 446 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: even admitted there was a hamstring injury last year in 447 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: camp and kind of plagued them throughout the season. So uh, 448 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: he was hoping to avoid things like that. And he 449 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: said when he just his window of we start here 450 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: and he is the first game. His is gonna be 451 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: a little bit later on and just moving forward. And 452 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: you can do that when you're eight or nine, you're 453 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: a veteran like this. I think it's gonna work. I hope, 454 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: you know. I don't know, and I don't know if 455 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: they know. You know, it's just like, why why take 456 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: the hits right now and deliver the hits. Let's just 457 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: wait and and let's let's start the process a little 458 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: bit later and we'll see they've tried everything. It's kind 459 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: of head scratching at this point with with how to 460 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: handle this situation with Shawn Lee. Maybe it works, maybe 461 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't. You all know me. I mean, if he 462 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: doesn't want to practice at all, I'm good. Yeah, whatever, 463 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: I roll him out game day, come to the meetings, 464 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: you know, work out, go to the walkthrough, and we'll 465 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: see you September ninth. If that's I mean, if that's 466 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: what you gotta do, you've earned that, right, Yeah. I mean, 467 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: he's a good player, and he's gonna be a good 468 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: player whether he gets a whole bunch of reps out 469 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: here or not. The real hope, though, is that in 470 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: whatever they do, they can hopefully keep him from getting 471 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: injured this year. I mean, and know they make it 472 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: through a sixteen game season. Mickey's Mickey's not here, But 473 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: if he was here, he'd say, you just want to 474 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: roll him out there on September ninth, all rusty like that, 475 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: And I would be like, yeah, because rusty Shawn Lee's 476 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: still probably pretty good. But you know that's the flip 477 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: side to the flip side too, it is you also 478 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: have to prepare him though, Like you have to get 479 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: him ready to play, Like you can't really expect he's 480 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: gonna be able to run out there and play without 481 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: then Sean Lee, he's not ready, does not sleep, he waits, 482 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he's ready. He wakes 483 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: up spitting fire and eating nails and thinking about football. 484 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: Like he'll go to the meetings and he'll go to 485 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: the walkthrough and he'll be more intense than the next 486 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: most intense guy on the team regardless. Like it's like, 487 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: how do you not get injured with the way he plays? 488 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: He goes so hard at it that I mean, you're 489 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: just bound to eventually get an injury. And you know, 490 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: people want to complain about him and how weak he is, 491 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, his injury wise, you know, But at the 492 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: same time, it's just like, how God, it's such because 493 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: you know, in twenty fifteen they moved him to will 494 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: and it was to help him, you know, get over 495 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: the injury issues, and he kicked it. He kicked it 496 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: for like two years. Like people would talk about him 497 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: getting hurt that really didn't happen for two whole seasons. 498 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: And you know, he has one year where he struggles 499 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: with hamstrings and there we are, so and it's it's justified. 500 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he's had plenty of injuries over the course 501 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: of his career, but it sucks that, you know, two 502 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: years of hard work and staying healthy kind of get 503 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: thrown out the window after what happened last year. So 504 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: hopefully he can get back on the track he was on. 505 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: Not trying to jinx him. Um, but let's assume for 506 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: a second that something did it did happen, and he 507 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: was going to be out for an extended period of time. 508 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: Just in what you've seen over the last couple of days, 509 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: how do you feel about that linebacker position. It's way 510 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 1: too early. Honestly, I think safety and linebacker are like 511 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: two of the hardest positions to evaluate in training camp 512 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: because linebacker, to me is the hardest it is. It 513 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 1: is a position well and running. I mean, but we 514 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: know what we haven't Zeke like, I'm not worried about that. 515 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: But safety and linebacker are just predicated on hitting people 516 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: and being you know, so like you can judge somebody's angles, 517 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: you can judge, you know, but it's so hard to tell. 518 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: You know, all right, they're in position, Are they going 519 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: to make the tackle? Yeah? Um, so I can't sit 520 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: here and say like I feel great, but um, you know, 521 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: kind of like Cam Fleming on the offensive line, I 522 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: feel really good about what they did. Whether it works 523 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: out as any body's guests. But you know, let's say, 524 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: if Sean Lee goes down for an extended period of time, 525 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: if I had to guess, you're going to move Leyden 526 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: vander Esh to the week side. You're gonna play Jaylen 527 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: at Mike, and you're gonna have Joe Thomas to kind 528 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: of fill in behind them. And honestly, Joe Thomas is 529 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: a guy that we're probably not talking about enough just 530 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: in terms of the reps he's getting. He's getting first 531 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: team reps, he's playing in multiple spots, especially with Shan 532 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: not being out there, and you know, I don't want 533 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: to peg him in for the Pro Bowl, but I 534 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a nice He's one of those 535 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: kind of like Jeremy Mintzi was a few years ago. 536 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: He's one of those no frills, veteran additions that you're 537 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: going to really value by the time you're done playing 538 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: sixteen games. And so between those three guys, I feel 539 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: at least okay that the linebacking corps is not going 540 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: to fall apart the way that it did last year 541 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: when Sean went down. What do you think about Jayalen 542 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: right now? Again really hard to value. Let me let 543 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: me back up, because I think with Jayleen, the thing 544 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: about it is watching him move. I think tells you 545 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: a lot. We've been watching him move for the last year, 546 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: and I think there were moments in each at different 547 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: parts of the year where you were like, I think 548 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: he's moving pretty good, or I don't think he's moving 549 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: very well at all. I remember during training camp last year, 550 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: you guys are saying, I just something about the way 551 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: he runs. It's just doesn't seem fluid. What do you think, 552 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: just from the standpoint of how he looks and how 553 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: he moves. I think he looks good. I think he 554 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: looks better. I don't know. You know, people throw that 555 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: out there. I've heard it a million times, like he's 556 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: back to Notre Dame form. I hesitate, like I want 557 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: to see more in real setting before I believe that. 558 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: And honestly, I think if you try to read between 559 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: the lines the way you know Cowboys officials talk, you know, 560 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: I think they would trust Layton vander esh to do 561 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: the coverage aspect of playing linebacker more than Jalen Smith 562 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: right now. Oh that's a lot of the draft deal 563 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: was one reason, because he's lanky and he moves well 564 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: out there. I'm not I'm not sold that Jalen can 565 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: do that part of the job at a high level. 566 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: Yet he can do it, he did it last year, 567 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: but would at a high high level, I don't know. 568 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: I will say he looks great. He looks great moving 569 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: toward the line of scrimmage. You know, I took a 570 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: video the other day and actually, you know, people on 571 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: Twitter pointed it out to me because I was trying 572 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: to keep up with practice and wasn't really looking. Jalen 573 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: filled this run perfectly. I mean, you know, Zeke finishes 574 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: every run in the end zone like he always does. 575 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: But Jalen was right there and the whole shifted over 576 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: was waiting for him. Would have put a really nice 577 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: hit on him if it had been a real practice. 578 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: So in that regard, he looks awesome when he can 579 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: just move downhill and use that athleticism. It's the stuff 580 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: moving away from the line of scrimmage that I don't 581 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: know about yet, but I'm I'm not betting against him. 582 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: I just want to see more. All right, let's move on. 583 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: I have a couple questions for you guys that that 584 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: kind of will recap the first week of training camp, 585 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: and I want to get you guys to answer this 586 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: and kind of tell me what your thoughts are here. Also, 587 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: for you guys out there listening, if you'd like to 588 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: give us a question, you can call us. The number 589 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: is nine seven two four nine having forty four hundred. 590 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: Again it is nine seven two four nine seven forty 591 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: four hundred. We will also take your phone calls and 592 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: your comments as the show progresses. So let's start with 593 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: some of these questions. Um, who's emerging as your standout player? 594 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: So far, we've had two padded practices in the very 595 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: short term of what we've been able to see, who's 596 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: kind of standing out as your your most uh your 597 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: standout player for camp so far, when you got a 598 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: g man, hold on, let me think about it. I 599 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: got it. Then Nick abandoned us, So I'm gonna I'm 600 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: gonna steal his line and say Byron and Tyron, Byron 601 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: and Tyn day rhyme arm Tyn. I mean, you know 602 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: what you have in Tyron Smith. But it's I wrote 603 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: this yesterday too, Like as much as we have fretted 604 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: about his health, it's nice to see him out here, healthy, 605 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: looking like the best tackle in football, which is exactly 606 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: what he looked like yesterday. And then, like I said, 607 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: it's it's just been two really nice practices for Byron Jones. 608 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: And you're not gonna win every single rep at cornerback, 609 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: that's the name through the job. But he's made two 610 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: really nice plays and had three or four other moments 611 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: where like I said, he just looks he looks comfortable there, 612 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: and maybe I shouldn't be surprised he played cornerback in college, 613 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: but I am a little surprised. So it's it's nice 614 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: to see him taking to it quickly. So those are 615 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: my two, all right, Amber, I don't I'm you know, 616 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: I talk about Charles Tapper and this is a one 617 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: that people don't like hearing about him anymore. Tap, but Tapper, 618 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: he is a guy that he does have talent. He 619 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: has he has flexibility in his body, he has the 620 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: ability to move. The problem is he hasn't been healthy 621 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: enough and it's unfortunate. I mean, he has such a 622 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: bad luck and he's always getting injury and that has 623 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: prevented him from showcasing his talent. Now he's been making 624 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: some moves out here and looking pretty good. So again, 625 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to get excited again. This was the 626 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: same story last year, me getting excited about him and 627 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: then this appointment again. But as of right now, I'm 628 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: rooting for him and it's exciting a little bit to 629 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: see him moving around the way he's doing it. Okay, Um, 630 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: you know one guy I'll throw out that I don't 631 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: think we've talked a lot about on this show so far. 632 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: It's Cole Beasley and he's been a guy that's I mean, 633 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: we always knew that that Cole had you know, really 634 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: good feet, He ran really good routes. But one thing 635 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: I've been noticing, and I'll even extrapolate this out a 636 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: little bit beyond just Cole um I think I think 637 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: I've noticed so far that these receivers get a bit 638 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: more separation than what we were seeing last year. And 639 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't, I don't want to 640 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: blame that on cornerback player or whatever. It just looks 641 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: like to me, they're much more precise in their routes 642 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: because the separation they're getting it seems like they're getting 643 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: it off their breaks. They come out of their breaks, 644 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: they explode out of their breaks, and that gets them 645 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of separation for the quarterback to be 646 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: able to get the ball there. I think I'm seeing 647 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: that a lot with Cole and that's one of the 648 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: things I think. If Cole Beasley is playing like that, 649 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: I think he presents a really great target for the 650 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: quarterback because he does have the ability because of his 651 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: quickness to get in and out of breaks quickly and 652 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,239 Speaker 1: to be able to buy himself a little separation. But 653 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: he's looked really good out here. This is gonna sound elementary, 654 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: but you know, we talk about defenses. We're able to 655 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: key on him and take him away. And there's got 656 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: to be a way you can, you know, scheme for 657 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: him to get a little more open and get better looks. Well, 658 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: maybe just put him in more spots on the field. 659 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I've never coached to offense at any 660 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: level of football, but if a guy's only lining up 661 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: in one place on the field every time, it seems 662 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: like it's easier to scheme for him, So move him 663 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: to more spots. Which, yeah, I don't think Scott Lenahan's 664 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: gonna be sending Cole Beasley on go routes very often, 665 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: but put him in more spots on the field makes 666 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: him harder to defend. But that being said, he's been 667 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: on the outside quite a bit out here, That's what 668 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I saw, Yeah, I know, I'm and I'm 669 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: just glad clarifying that. Yeah, and even yesterday I saw 670 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: him run a go route. Like they've used him a 671 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 1: lot of different places, doing a lot of the I mean, 672 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,239 Speaker 1: they've sent Tavon down the field too, which I mean, like, 673 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see how that translates to games. 674 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: But give him more to do, put him in more spots, 675 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: put him on the field at the same time, give 676 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: me my ten personnel. Yeah, and I think it will 677 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: pay difference to your point about running. You know, one 678 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: of the things that I've noticed a lot of the times, 679 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: just a relationship between him and Dak, how connected they 680 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: seem to be. That are times when Beasley's running a route, 681 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: he's not even looking, and as soon as he turns 682 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 1: around around, the ball is right there. So they know 683 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: exactly where to be and where the ball is gonna 684 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: be at. And Cole doesn't even have to keep his 685 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: eye turned around. You know, he can run his route, 686 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: run around, but turn around and catch the ball right away. 687 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: He saw on that one on one where he beat Cheeto, 688 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: he still started out on the outside. He still ended 689 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: up back in the middle. That's where I think he's 690 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: gonna still want to be. But last year they, I 691 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: think teams figured out, Okay, this is how we can 692 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: stop him like this. So now the counter is start 693 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: him in different places. His bread and butter is still 694 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: gonna be the middle, you know. That's and that's where 695 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: you can find him, you know better. That's where Dak's 696 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: gonna actually see him better. But I think that the 697 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: starting points gonna be from different spots. All right, let's uh, Nick, 698 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: we the question AD throw out to these guys and 699 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: I'll give you an opportunity to answer as well. Was 700 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: who's the player that's emerged as you're as your kind 701 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: of star off camp so far through these first couple 702 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: of days. Well, I mean, I just it's refreshing to 703 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: see Tyrn but kind of back at that level. Well, 704 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: hopefully he stays that way. He's he's one of their 705 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: best players. Um, I mean him and Sean Lee and 706 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: Zeke and all that. Um. I thought Dak has looked 707 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: really good though. I mean, I think I'll just say 708 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: it from that standpoint, I mean, I don't know who 709 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: do you guys picked. Nobody had picked Dak, so that's 710 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: a good one. I just think he I like. I 711 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: like the the the offense that we're seeing that of him, 712 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: intermediate throws but also deep slants, deep you know, deep 713 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: outside down the field stuff too. And and and we 714 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: haven't even gotten to the point where he's gonna be 715 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: able to run the ball. And Zeke runs the ball, 716 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: which opens things up even more. But just to the 717 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: connection with him and the receivers, I thought it's been 718 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: pretty good so far. All right, let's say, Hey, let's 719 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: take a phone call real quick. We got a call 720 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: from Al in Pennsylvania. Al. What up? Hey, how you doing? 721 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: Just a quick question. Is there any chance that we 722 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 1: might see uh, Rod Smith line up in a fullback 723 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: position and get some carries out of that position, because 724 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: I kind of missed us. If we're gonna be a 725 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: full bore running team, I'd like to see the fullback 726 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: get some carries. And I think he could carry the 727 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: ball out there in all the wiley It's just that 728 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: could Rod Smith block a little bit? All right? Thanks 729 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: for the call? Yeah, I mean you could. You're running 730 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: back always will carry the ball better than than you're fullback, 731 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: but that's not really why he's out there, and that 732 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, Um, I think you might see some some 733 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: things out of Rod Smith. Um. I'm tempted to say no, 734 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: just because they tried to move him to fullback already 735 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: and they didn't really take right uh And I get. 736 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Rod is a running back and you 737 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: would assume he's going to carry it better than all 738 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: the wallet. But I'll about anybody ten dollars right now. 739 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: They're gonna keep Jimmy's solo Wali on this team, so 740 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: he's your full back slash h back. I am you 741 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: know this is not really what you asked, But when 742 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: you factor in that Tavon Austin will probably do some 743 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: running back related things. I wonder if maybe they'll do 744 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: a little bit more twenty one personnel than we're used to. 745 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's two two running backs, one tight end, 746 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: three wide receivers or two wide receivers. I'm sorry, And 747 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, just the talent that you have at running 748 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 1: back the fullback, plus you don't love your tight ends 749 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: the way you used to that you would want to 750 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: run twelve personnel with Jason Witten. I don't know, just 751 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: an idea. I think maybe you might see more of 752 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: that this year. Yeah, and I could even see a 753 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: situation where they have a Loali lined up in the 754 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: H back position. You mentioned him being H back. I 755 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: could see him there, and it kind of gives the 756 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: look of a twelve personnel although you have an extra 757 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: basically an extra running back, but he's lined up outside 758 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: your tackle versus being lined up in the backfield, and 759 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: that gives him that twelve look without necessarily having a 760 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: second tight end. We've talked about it on this show before, 761 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: I would guess this team keeps three tight ends and 762 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: Ola Wally's ability to do that type of stuff is 763 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 1: why you don't need the extra body. I think Ola 764 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 1: Wally is one of the more underrated or players on 765 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: this offense, just guys that are going under the radar. 766 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: I think his skill set is so unique. It's not 767 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: going to be like Keith Smith at fullback. It's going 768 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: to be a different type of fullback, but it's one 769 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: like like you said, Dave, I don't think they'll need 770 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: to go heavy at tight end because I think it's 771 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: almost like three and a half tight ends, three tight 772 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: ends and then and then him, which isn't good for 773 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: those guys at the back end of tight end. But 774 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 1: now I will bring this up though, as I'm watching 775 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: these tight ends play there, it's ever been several times 776 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 1: I've seen these guys get pushed around quite a bit. 777 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin, I think he's kind of light and uh 778 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: and he's gonna have to get a lot stronger. I 779 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: think it wouldn't be able to be a good blocking 780 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: option for this I know. But but when I'm saying, 781 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: if you're watching it out there and maybe it's not 782 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: size as much as his strength. But when you watch 783 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,240 Speaker 1: him out there, I've seen a couple of different instances 784 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 1: where he's just kind of gotten moved as the defensive 785 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: lineman wanted to move him. To go back to the 786 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: first contact of training camp when they did podrills at 787 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 1: the Charles Tapper just dumped Jarwin like, I mean, like 788 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: a sack of laundry, right, pretty awesome. Yeah, And I've 789 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: seen and here's the interesting thing. As big as Rico is, 790 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: I've seen Rico get moved like that as well. And 791 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: again that's about learning how to play with leverage and 792 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: those kinds of things. I just don't think right now. 793 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: I just don't know if they have great options at 794 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 1: tight end when it comes to blocking, which again says 795 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 1: why a guy's like Jam's is your best option right there? 796 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: There will be another tight end from another team in there. 797 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: You think, yeah, that wouldn't be shocking, and then almost 798 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: happens every year, but just depends on what kind. But 799 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 1: I my prediction is is that but before the start 800 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: of the season, there will be a tight end that 801 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: we've heard of, just some guy. If it's bounced around 802 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 1: a little bit, there's a guy like, oh, they're bringing 803 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: him in. Oh, okay, Fasano available. Yeah, I don't think 804 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: they're going back there now, you don't think they're going 805 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: back there. Let's like a surprise. He's still in the 806 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: league though. Yeah. It's pretty good around for a while. 807 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: Good career. Let's go ahead and take our final break. 808 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 1: Will come back. Let's get some more questions, you guys, 809 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: give us a call. 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Give me 859 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: a player that needs to step it up a bit, 860 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: A guy that maybe you want to see more from 861 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: that you really haven't seen enough of let's start with you, 862 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: Dave put me on the spot. Why don't you I 863 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:57,439 Speaker 1: did correct? Like I really don't know. Um, I'm gonna 864 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: sound like a homer for a second, Like I actually 865 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: you know. We did raining camp live me and Brian 866 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: yesterday during the tail end of practice, and the point 867 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: I kept trying to make was Okay, not everybody's perfect. 868 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 1: You know you're gonna have bad reps. Michael Gallup had 869 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 1: a bad day yesterday. He had some drops, but like 870 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: it really seems like everybody at this camp is putting 871 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: their best foot forward in these first few practices, Like 872 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: the dbs have made some good plays. Cheeto had a 873 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: great knock away. We talked plenty about Byron Dak has 874 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: made some great throws. He's thrown some picks, not some picks. 875 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: He threw one pick. Beasley's had a good day. But 876 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: for the most like, I haven't noticed anybody who just 877 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 1: is sucking. Like it seems like everybody really came to play. 878 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's disappointing for Chads Green if his injury 879 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: is serious. Just what we know about him that ain't great. 880 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: And you'd love to see these young receivers. Noah Brown 881 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 1: has been my pet cats since he got drafted. So 882 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: I'm bummed that he's not practicing, but nobody really comes 883 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: to mind that's just dogging it as of yet at least. Yeah, 884 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: I mean you said who needs to step it up? 885 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: I think if you just ask the person, ask the 886 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: player that you know, most of them will say, well, 887 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: we all do. But I'll say, um, Tyrone Crawford because 888 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,760 Speaker 1: of what that needs to happen for that entire group, 889 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 1: and and good luck. I mean, he's gonna have to 890 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,280 Speaker 1: go up against he's going against Tyron, but if he 891 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: can win, he's got to win one. He's got to 892 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: win a couple win and then that'll help the other 893 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 1: guys as well. He's got to set the tone. He 894 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,919 Speaker 1: wants to be the leader of that group. He's gonna 895 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: have to do it. Yeah, It's it's not easy. And 896 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,760 Speaker 1: then whoever's going up against Travis Frederick is not easy. 897 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: It's not easy against that mark. It's not easy to 898 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: continuing those guys because the one thing about Connor Williams 899 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: and Lyle Collins is that they're not maybe as talented, 900 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 1: but they're nasty. I mean they got I mean, Connor 901 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: Williams is gonna lead the lead the offensive line and penalties. Um, 902 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: I think just because he's just that nasty attitude. Yeah, 903 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 1: I mean, which is which is good. But he's gonna 904 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: have to win. He's have to set the tone. I 905 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: think the rest will help. So it's not an easy thing. 906 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: But I think Tyrone Crawford it will go a long 907 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: way if he can step up. Man. I mean this 908 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: has been pretty balanced right now. All of these guys 909 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: have had good moments and then not so good moments. 910 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,959 Speaker 1: But one that I would say, or that I would 911 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: have said if the situation would have been different, would 912 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: be his name, Just Rico. I don't know how his 913 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: name just disappeared from my mind right now, but Rico 914 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: is the guy that I have criticized, and you know 915 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 1: that he's not necessarily as fast or as athletic in 916 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: the game as the other tight ends. But right now, 917 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he'll make those catches and I'm like, oh, okay, 918 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: I see it. But at the same time, it is 919 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: that good enough to keep him here? How long will 920 00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: that project keep happening for does it make the team? 921 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see. I'll throw out another name 922 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: and it's actually for a little different reason. When we 923 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: came in into camp, Nick, I know you were talking 924 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,439 Speaker 1: a little bit about how your expectation is that Jordan 925 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,720 Speaker 1: Lewis would overtake Byron Jones as a starter. We've already 926 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: talked about. I thought that's what I said. I'm sorry 927 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: if I'm mis characterized, I'm sorry, okay. But and I 928 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: the reason why I say that because I kind of 929 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: believe the same thing. I thought by the end of 930 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: this camp he would be your starter, or at least 931 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 1: by you get a couple weeks into the season, he 932 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: would be your starter. The one thing I will say, though, 933 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: is because Byron has looked so good here at the 934 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: beginning of camp. If Jordan is gonna make that step, 935 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to make some bigger plays out here 936 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,439 Speaker 1: than what than what Byron's making. And so I think 937 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,919 Speaker 1: you're looking at the wrong cornerback You think Cheeto would 938 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: not be the starter? No, who you in this day 939 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: and age your slot corns. Yeah, if Jordan's gonna crack it, 940 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a b that he beats. 941 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: Let's hold on just a second, one, Let's make sure 942 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: that the whole panel's not just jumping on the thirty one. 943 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: I can here because the same thing was said to 944 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: last year. He had a great camp last year and 945 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: then he got moved from his position because it just 946 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: wasn't good. So he's a good practice player. I mean 947 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,280 Speaker 1: he is, and he's long and and and these wide 948 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: receivers there's some question marks about them, and we knew 949 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: this going in that whoever had the upper hand. It 950 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean he's ready for Julio Jones right now 951 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: just because of he's doing well against these guys. He 952 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 1: was beaten by Lance Lenora. That ball is a little 953 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: bit out there differently, and now when we're probably talking 954 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 1: about completely different guy. All right, so let's just see. 955 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: I think he looks the part, he's long and all that, 956 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna have issues, and he had 957 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: a great training camp last year too. Absolutely, I don't 958 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: think he's on the football but next year, that's what 959 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: I'm trying to say. I don't think he's this is 960 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: a contract here. I don't think he's on the team 961 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: next year. But I think the point is what he 962 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: does out here is going to determine who's gonna be 963 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: starting when we get to the season and yes, he'll 964 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: have to play through the season and see how that 965 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: all goes one way or another. I just think Jordan 966 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 1: Lewis is gonna to the to the front with Cheetah. 967 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I completely if I had to bet money 968 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: on it. I don't think Byron Jones is here next 969 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: year either. But we knew that about Brandon Carr, and 970 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 1: he still held a starting job for sixteen years, no 971 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: doubt you right, he wasn't being coached by Chris Richard. 972 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: That's something that's you're right, Nick, Nick made me think too, 973 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: and and it's Daytone Jones and and Jihad Ward have 974 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 1: been fine, but that's defensive tackle troubles me any I mean, 975 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,720 Speaker 1: David Irving is m ia and even when MALIEK Collins 976 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 1: gets out here, you know how that goes easing back 977 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,839 Speaker 1: in after injury. Uh Tyrone Crawford was talking about maybe 978 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 1: having to play some tackle when the season gets here, 979 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 1: which like he's about twenty thirty pounds too light. So 980 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: somebody in that position group, it would be great if 981 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: they could step up and assert themselves and make the 982 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: coaches and me feel better about Like to see Elie 983 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: slide in there, that would be nice. You know, I'd 984 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: be down with that. That's one guy that I've been 985 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: watching out here that that kind of hasn't it's kind 986 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 1: of been a little bit of a mixed bag. But 987 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 1: he has impressed me with the speed of how fat 988 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: he gets off the ball, Like that's a guy can move. 989 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: He can really move, And so I'm interested to see 990 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 1: more of him and see how that all plays out 991 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: throughout the training camp. Now, of course he's lining up 992 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: on that side with Tyren, So yeah, if he's if 993 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,959 Speaker 1: he's gonna be playing with the getting first team reps, 994 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna have some difficulty trying to get around Tyrn. 995 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 1: But he looks all and although he does have some speed, Yeah, 996 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: but yeah, he looks like he could play one tech 997 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 1: mak big Yeah. Yeah. But that's also why I think 998 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: it's so remarkable how quick he is getting off the ball, 999 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 1: because he's a big dude. Move that quick. He's really 1000 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: a big dude. All Right, let's tack the next question. 1001 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,280 Speaker 1: The next question is do you think, um that Cameron 1002 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,720 Speaker 1: Fleming is solid enough to protect Dallas if Tyron should 1003 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: go down? And I know, again we're all all of 1004 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 1: this is based upon two days of padded practices. But 1005 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 1: I just want to kind of talk about it, and 1006 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: let's see what you're thinking so far about Cameron Fleming. 1007 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: Liked him. I thought he's he's done well. You know, 1008 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: I have this weird thing when I see numbers, I 1009 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,959 Speaker 1: always just go back like five years for some reason. 1010 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just like, oh, darn, Darien Weems 1011 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 1: is out there playing. I mean, I don't even know 1012 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 1: why I do that with him. I pride myself on 1013 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: my memory, and I washed Darien Weems out of my mind. 1014 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 1: It's probably well. I mean when I see Italy at 1015 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,800 Speaker 1: seventy six, I think it's Ash and then I'm like, 1016 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 1: who's ninety three? Is that Anthony Spencer? I mean, I 1017 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: gotta mark Quez White. To me, I just keep thinking 1018 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: Brandon bar So, I gotta do better. But I think 1019 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 1: seventy five is Fleming and he does. He does a 1020 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: nice job. And this is the reason why he's here 1021 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: is because one game last year and one injury. It 1022 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,320 Speaker 1: was more than one injury, but but that one particular 1023 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 1: injury really affected the entire game, and I think the 1024 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 1: Cowboys are going to make sure that that doesn't happen again. Yeah, 1025 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a drop off. It has to be 1026 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: a drop off. But you know, Philadelphia made at work 1027 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 1: when their left tackle went down. I don't think you're 1028 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,360 Speaker 1: gonna confuse Fleming with Tyrone, but he looks pretty solid 1029 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 1: out there. And I love whoever's idea it was, Whether 1030 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: it was Jerry Jones, Jason Garrett, Paul Alexander, or Tyron himself, 1031 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I love the idea to rotate reps. 1032 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: Uh you know, you know, I don't know what the 1033 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 1: strict rotation is, but it looks like Tyrone will get 1034 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 1: two reps and then they'll put Cam in, get him 1035 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 1: some time with that first team. Oh keep Tyrone. Crawford's 1036 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 1: idea keeps Tying limits the strain on him. Get Cam. 1037 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 1: Not only do you just get him reps, but you 1038 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 1: get him in there with that first team line. I 1039 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: think that's a great idea. They learned from their mistakes 1040 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: last year, you know, knowing already knowing that Tyrone was 1041 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: bound to certain injuries, and they didn't necessarily, you know, 1042 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 1: enforced that backup position or gave someone the opportunity to 1043 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: get those reps and in case he did go down. 1044 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 1: So this year they're doing it differently and and it 1045 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 1: feels you you feel more comfortable going into the season. 1046 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: We don't know what that's gonna look like, but there's 1047 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 1: more comfort, comfortness, And they're perfectly said, you know you can't. 1048 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Nick, you can't predict what it's gonna be 1049 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 1: like during Maybe it all falls apart, but they are 1050 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 1: they are trying. You can't blame them for lack of 1051 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 1: effort linebacker and tackle. There's something kind of refreshing about 1052 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: the part that everybody sort of knows they should, you know, 1053 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: on the coaching staff, and it's if it doesn't go 1054 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:13,320 Speaker 1: the way they want it to go, I mean, this 1055 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,440 Speaker 1: is probably going to be it. I mean, I think 1056 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett has to note that now, and that doesn't 1057 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: matter what Jerry says up there, but of course he 1058 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 1: has to say that. With Jason right here. This is 1059 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 1: not necessarily a super Bowl or Boss or playoffs or 1060 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: Boss or whatever. But I think we feel that way 1061 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 1: and they should, you know, coaches should feel that way. 1062 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 1: So there's when he goes back to the left tackle. 1063 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 1: We don't have to play Chaz Green because of the 1064 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 1: he was drafted in the politics all that you play 1065 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: the guy that's going to win. It doesn't really matter 1066 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: anymore about you're doing this or that, or we need 1067 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 1: to kind of see him for no, because what you're 1068 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 1: gonna do if you play these young guys, you're gonna 1069 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 1: prepare him for the next guy. You need to win. 1070 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 1: You need to win now everyone knows that. So I 1071 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 1: think there's something refreshing about that we're gonna see the 1072 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 1: guys that are going to help this team win. There's 1073 00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 1: for no other reason than to help the team win, 1074 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: and it doesn't always happen that way. Let's get to 1075 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: the final question. The final question is what are the 1076 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,280 Speaker 1: pass rushers outside of DeMarcus Lawrence have piqued your interest? 1077 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,800 Speaker 1: And we've talked about the offensive line being so dominant, 1078 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 1: so it's really hard to find a lot of success 1079 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: from the standpoint of those pass rushers. But give me 1080 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 1: just one guy maybe that's piqued your interests. Maybe you've 1081 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 1: seen just this one moment from him that said, Hey, 1082 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,239 Speaker 1: I think I want to see more of him. Give 1083 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: me one guy. I'm riding and dying with my guy. Honestly, 1084 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 1: he's looked fine. He's I mean, he got his butt 1085 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: kicked a couple of times yesterday got in a fight 1086 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: lost to Lyle Collins. I like the I like the 1087 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 1: way Taco Charlton is going about his business out here, 1088 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 1: Like I mean, he's not just kicking everybody's ass, but 1089 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 1: he's confident. He's bulked up and like I mean, it's 1090 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,240 Speaker 1: very noticeable, like he got ready for his second season. 1091 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. He's stuck to Demarcus's hip, 1092 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 1: like glue. You know, hey, learned from the best guy 1093 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 1: on the team. Why the hell not um? And and 1094 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:03,879 Speaker 1: he's had some wins. I mean, like I just said, 1095 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I know he got batted around a little 1096 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: bit yesterday, but he he looks competent and comfortable, and 1097 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, I just I like what he's about. I 1098 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 1: feel good that he's gonna trend upward. Okay, amber Um. 1099 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: He has to be tackle out of the group just 1100 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 1: because of the progress he has made. I spoke about 1101 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 1: Charles Stafford, but am I there yet to go to 1102 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 1: jump in and go with him? Not really, So I 1103 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 1: mean right now, the most progress I've seen would be 1104 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 1: from tackle. And as far as Tyrone, we know how 1105 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 1: he's been and you know he's a good player and 1106 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,760 Speaker 1: he does what he needs to do. But uh, progress 1107 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 1: wise tackle you know, I right now, where Dorins Armstrong 1108 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: is is that he's gonna go up against the backup 1109 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 1: left tackles, the backup guys, the Bryce Johnson, Jacob Campos, 1110 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 1: all that, and he's doing pretty well against them. Uh, 1111 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: he had some some moments, but but he he's got 1112 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 1: that pure athleticism that that's why they drafted him where 1113 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 1: they did. And so he's going to get to the 1114 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: point where, Okay, this is good and then good job. 1115 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: Now you got to go up against the Flemings and 1116 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 1: then maybe at some point Tyrant. So I want to 1117 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: see Armstrong get to the point where now he's going 1118 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 1: to go up against guys that we think are really 1119 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,840 Speaker 1: NFL caliber guys. Armstrong gotta I want to say it 1120 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,399 Speaker 1: was compete. I think he did two reps against cam 1121 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: and they split. But he, I mean, he he has 1122 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: looked good too. I hesitate to just dump a whole 1123 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 1: bunch of expectation on a fourth round pick, but he 1124 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: doesn't look out of place. He's at least piquing your 1125 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,800 Speaker 1: interest some of the opportunities in Yeah, and if you 1126 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 1: want a one hundred percent certainty on something going to happen, 1127 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 1: and fans, it's funny what the fans seem to care 1128 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 1: about and tweet about. Laurance Armstrong will be wearing a 1129 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 1: different number when the season starts. One hundred percent that 1130 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 1: is going to happen, So don't worry about it. I don't. 1131 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly why they did what they did 1132 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 1: to put him at seventy four. He's not going to 1133 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,839 Speaker 1: stay there. Bob Lilly's number will continue to not be worn. 1134 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,439 Speaker 1: In all honesty, though there aren't There aren't a whole 1135 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: lot of options. I think he wears n They will 1136 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 1: have some by the time of season gets here. Oh no, 1137 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,359 Speaker 1: I think he out to wear ninety three. I don't 1138 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 1: know if Richard Ashe will make the team. Rod Marinelli 1139 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 1: loves him, a trash can full of dirt type of guy, 1140 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: though I don't know. I don't think ash or Price 1141 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 1: will both make the team. Now ninety three, uh, which 1142 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 1: for good years in Cowboys history. I also think there'll 1143 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 1: be one of the numbers that arm Strong. All right, 1144 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 1: real quickly, we'll get a call to end the show 1145 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 1: from Ernest in Houston. Ernest, what up? Ernest? Are there? Yeah? Ernie, Yeah, Yeah, 1146 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: My question is, um, I think Nick was hitting on 1147 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 1: it has to do with Connor Williams and um, if 1148 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 1: you're seeing that he's nasty and so forth. My concern 1149 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 1: was as a rookie, he's not going to be as 1150 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,920 Speaker 1: strong as as he He will be here in a 1151 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 1: couple of years. But how does he work against those 1152 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:11,920 Speaker 1: interior defensive linemen from Philly and New York, especially twice 1153 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 1: a year and they don't have to meet up with 1154 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox and Max Harrison and those kind of guys 1155 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 1: and one on one and how do they how do 1156 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,359 Speaker 1: they work with him to help him out? All right, 1157 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 1: all right, thanks for the call. You know, well, the 1158 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 1: nastiness is a good thing. He's going to get better 1159 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: at technique. He's going to get stronger. Right now, you're 1160 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: just fighting, you're just battling, you're scrapping him. He's got 1161 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 1: that in him. Not everyone, not everyone can do that. 1162 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,839 Speaker 1: I think that is going to help him. It's going 1163 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 1: to carry him as he gets better. He guess he's 1164 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 1: got two all pros left and right. That's good for 1165 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 1: a lot of people. You know, that will help him 1166 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 1: as well. But but the fact that we talked about 1167 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,319 Speaker 1: the other day about the Dennis Rodman being a good 1168 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 1: rebounder because he wanted it more. If you've got that ability, 1169 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:00,839 Speaker 1: I think that's going to kill are you a little bit? Now. 1170 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean you're gonna beat Fletcher Cox just because you 1171 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 1: you're you're mean, but but I mean you, you've got 1172 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,320 Speaker 1: to be able to kind of hold your own, and 1173 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:09,919 Speaker 1: I think he'll do that. And the other thing I'll 1174 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,719 Speaker 1: point out about that is, yes, he's he's gonna have 1175 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 1: those two pro bowlers on either side of him. The 1176 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 1: great part about it right now is we're getting to 1177 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,399 Speaker 1: see him in one on one drills where you don't 1178 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 1: have that guy beside you, and he's definitely holding his own. 1179 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,359 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. So now you put him 1180 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 1: up against the Fletcher Cox and he has those all 1181 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,440 Speaker 1: pros there with him, they'll be able to help him 1182 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 1: out a little bit. Yeah, but I feel good about 1183 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 1: where he is right now. That was not what I 1184 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 1: was expecting to see in the first two days of 1185 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,399 Speaker 1: padded practices from the rookie, and I would argue he's 1186 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:40,120 Speaker 1: been surprisingly strong for a rookie, But the d tackles 1187 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 1: on this team are not Fletcher Cox absolutely and he's 1188 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,479 Speaker 1: gonna get his butt kicked. He will. Travis Frederick happened 1189 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,799 Speaker 1: to Travis. It happens. You got tiring and Travis there 1190 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 1: to help you out. I'm not I'm not over there. 1191 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: Week two it was was it his rookie year, Dontari Poe. 1192 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't hear you. What was that? Dotarry Poe? 1193 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: I think threw him around on Oh yeah, first year? Absolutely, 1194 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,279 Speaker 1: oh badly. So it's gonna happen. But I just say 1195 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 1: I think for right now, for where he is, first 1196 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: two days of padded practices, it's been a good showing 1197 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 1: for him. It's been a really good showing. We appreciate 1198 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 1: you guys joined us. We're back tomorrow. Amber will be 1199 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:15,719 Speaker 1: hosting the show, so make sure you tune in to 1200 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,920 Speaker 1: check that out to then for Nick Eatman, David Hellman, 1201 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 1: Amber Garcia, I'm Derek Eagels and this has been The 1202 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 1: Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has 1203 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 1204 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Football Club.