1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: I've said this in the last couple of years, you know, 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: sports or cyclical outside of the NFL, which just keeps 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: getting more popular. College football got very, very regional, very Alabama, Georgia. 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: Now it's much broader at college basketball. I think in 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: the last three years, they're just so much talent. Of 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: the size of college teams. Quickness is no longer the 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: name of the game. It's just get big, be like 15 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: Illinois and Michigan. 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: Just get big. 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: Mick cronin his Bruins faced all four of these teams 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: in the Final four, with different results. 19 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 4: He's joining us now live twenty two. 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: Years coaching in college basketball, won seventy percent of his 21 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: games UCLan everywhere. Okay, let let's start with Illinois. That 22 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: was one of the wildest games of the year in 23 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: the sport. It was ninety five ninety four. You beat 24 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: them by a point. Your guards, they're bigs. 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 5: You know. 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: It was just a wildly entertaining game. Is there a 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: secret to beating Illinois, Mick or do you just have 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: to acknowledge they're going to score on you. 29 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 4: They're big? 30 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: I mean, well, when you when you beat them, did 31 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: you go into that game thinking, listen, this is going 32 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: to be a high scoring game. 33 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 4: It's just the way they play. 34 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, Colin, I thought it was going to take eighty 35 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 6: to beat them, for sure. 36 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 3: They look they're so well. 37 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 6: Put together with Fogler at the point as an elite freshman. 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 6: So you have the NBA guy checked, you have Kylin Boswell, 39 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 6: the senior grizzlevet guard. You got that box checked. You 40 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 6: got shooters all around checked. You got to seven foot 41 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 6: two guys rotating in the middle checked. And a great 42 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 6: coach and Brad Underwood and Stoyokovich is a great slashing wing. 43 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 6: They just got great components. 44 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: What the difference for. 45 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 6: Them in the tournament has been, as you guys know, 46 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 6: their defense has really stepped up in the NCAA tournament. 47 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 6: They don't give up twos at the rim. You got 48 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 6: to make shots to beat them. And we were able 49 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 6: to make double double digit threes and obviously a last 50 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 6: second basket to beat them, but it's really hard to 51 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 6: score on them at the rim. 52 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: Okay, So you narrowly lost to Arizona in a more 53 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: normal game sixty nine to sixty five, but you held 54 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: Bury's and a CoA Pete. You held those guys to 55 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: single figures. They did not play particularly well. So Arizona 56 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: A lot of people think Arizona could win this whole thing. 57 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: You had success against two of their stars and that 58 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: game was different tempo. Talk a little about Arizona and 59 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: the success you had slowing them down a little bit. 60 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 6: Well in fairness playing them, and I believe it was 61 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 6: late November. Uh, you got You've got three freshmen starting. 62 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 6: There's so much better now. Bradon Burry's has played himself 63 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 6: into the top ten of the NBA draft, Kart Schenkoff 64 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 6: is also going to be an NBA player, and Cole 65 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 6: Pete's gotten better as well. So again they checked the 66 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 6: box with senior grizzle point guard in Bradley. 67 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 5: Uh. 68 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: And look they're two big guys. 69 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 6: Tobya Waco and Moe Krebas are big time strong guys now, 70 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 6: and look, we play every year, and obviously we played 71 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 6: more than that in the Pac twelve, so we know 72 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 6: each other. So our games tend to be uglier, grind 73 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 6: it out games. But there's so much better than they 74 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 6: were Colin back in November. It's not like when I 75 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 6: watch them play, like they don't shoot a lot of threes. 76 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 6: But but Burry's Kart, Schenkoff and del orso they can 77 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 6: do it when they need to do it. You can't 78 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 6: just not guard those guys, so they may they may 79 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 6: be the most complete team right there with Michigan, I 80 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 6: think as you see the Ken Palm thing where they Yeah, 81 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 6: they're two of the best, they're two of the best 82 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 6: four teams in the last twenty five years from metrically. 83 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you played in Michigan. It was your worst 84 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: loss of the year. It was also gone Zaga's worst loss. 85 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: My take on I watched them last week live. I 86 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: went to the United Center and I was upstairs. So 87 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: they're passing feels like an NBA team. Their size is excellent. 88 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: If they're hitting shots. To me, as a college team, 89 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: they're virtually unbeatable. If they're hitting threes, you I mean 90 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: sometimes there's just a team coach and you're just like, guys, well, 91 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure we match up. Did it feel a 92 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: little bit like that with Michigan. 93 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was forty thirty eight and to half. 94 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 6: And again, I know you got to get eighty to 95 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 6: beat them, and you know we weren't able to keep 96 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 6: scoring with them in the second half. They're so hard 97 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 6: to contain offensively because they can beach in so many ways. 98 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 6: And look, Yoxel is a guy that would pre nil 99 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 6: he's in the NBA colin right, right, I mean you 100 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 6: know he is not in and that's what and you mentioned, 101 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 6: you know, as we let in right, College basketball has 102 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 6: gotten so much better in the last four years because 103 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 6: guys aren't making mistakes by going pro too soon, and 104 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 6: it's going to elongate their their NBA career by doing it. 105 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 6: It's good for the players as well, not just that 106 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 6: they're making money. You don't have guys making mistakes going 107 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 6: out too soon trying to get to some money. So 108 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 6: but he is, he is so good. I mean, he's 109 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 6: the best player in the final four. And then you 110 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,119 Speaker 6: put you know, Lamara and Johnson their first round picks 111 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 6: around him, and look, Trey McKinney off the bench. 112 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: Like when you bring. 113 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 6: Guys going to play in the NBA off the bench, 114 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 6: which Michigan does. Tray McKenny will play in the NBA someday. 115 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 6: That's how good they are. I agree with you, They're 116 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 6: going to be a tough out for anybody. 117 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 3: But look, Arizona is really good. 118 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 4: So you lost to you can you know? It's funny. 119 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: So because I used to live in Connecticut, I follow 120 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: Yukon and I watched them throughout the year. They had 121 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: a bad loss to Marquette, but you know, all year, 122 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: my takeaway is they need another guy. 123 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 4: I don't you know. 124 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: They got an old school big. Taris Reed. He's an 125 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: old school big. So I appreciate that. Are you surprised 126 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: they beat you? 127 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 4: Guys? Are you surprised they're here? 128 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: Or when you played them, did you say, well, they're physical, 129 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: they're Yukon, they're well coached. You you kind of thought 130 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: they may end up here. 131 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no surprise to me. 132 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 6: I thought Duke obviously, you know, Duke dominated most of 133 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 6: that game. But you know, it's college basketball, and anything 134 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 6: can happen, and in. 135 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 3: This case, it did. At the end of the game. 136 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: I didn't think that they would get blown out. 137 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 6: One thing about Yukon and I don't know how far 138 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 6: it's going to carry them, Like their fighting spirit of 139 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 6: in their culture that coach Eurley is built there is 140 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 6: so good. 141 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 3: You know. 142 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 6: I imagine they're playing with a guy with two championships. 143 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 6: Alex Charevan has two championships. 144 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, is Kareem? I mean, when's 145 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: the coach. 146 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 6: Wooden's guys were the last guys to be playing for 147 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 6: their third championship. So I mean that just tells you 148 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 6: like about their DNA in their program is so deep. 149 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 6: I mean, they just you know, they're not going to 150 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 6: go quietly into the night. You're going to have to 151 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 6: play the final buzzer to beat you U Kon. But 152 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 6: I think Illin always got better players, so. 153 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: Do I That's what I think. I think I'll tell you. 154 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: I want to talk Keaton Woggler, the guard who came 155 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: from Kansas. Nobody recruited him, Minnesota did, and Illinois did, 156 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: and he got onto campus. And Brad Underwood told me 157 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: this week, you know, when he was playing around in 158 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: the summer, the players on the team's head coach, you 159 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: got to come see, this kid is something else. Do 160 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: you if you ever had a guy like that, because 161 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: it's funny. The Dallas Mavericks have the sixth pick. I said, 162 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: if you put him with Cooper Flag, Oh my lord. 163 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: Have you ever had a kid that came onto your campus, 164 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: whether it was Murray State, Cincinnati, Ucla and you're like, 165 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,559 Speaker 1: he is way better than we thought. 166 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: Not to that extent. 167 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 6: I've had some guys that are have been better than 168 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 6: you thought they were going to be, but very rarely. 169 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 6: His parents are quoted as saying they dropped him off 170 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 6: to red shirt his freshman year when they dropped him 171 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 6: off at school, and I think they both played college 172 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 6: basketball and they were all for it. 173 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: Very rarely. 174 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 6: Look, he's probably NIO wise, their lowest paid guy turns 175 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 6: out to be your best player. It's a great story, 176 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 6: you know, and good for him. He seems like an 177 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 6: unbelievable kid. He's humble, but with his size and skill 178 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 6: and he just plays with great pace. Yukon's going to 179 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 6: challenge him physically. The one thing they're playing Yukon last 180 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 6: week up close. They're really physical with your guards, and 181 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 6: we had great guards this here at UCLA and they 182 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 6: threw our guards off with their physic but he's handled it. 183 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 6: I mean he's played into Big ten all year. 184 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 4: You know. 185 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: Tommy Lloyd announced today he's staying at Arizona. And my 186 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: take was there's so much fluidity to the sport now 187 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: with NIL and transfer portal that if you can get 188 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: a good job and you're aligned with your administration, you 189 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: don't want to. I mean, I'm for mobility, but there's 190 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: so much mobility in the sport now that I think 191 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: you're better served as a coach that just stopped job hopping. 192 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: If you've got a good job top fifteen, just stay there. 193 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: Are you surprised Tommy Lloyd state, or do you kind 194 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: of agree? 195 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 4: I mean maybe you see it differently? 196 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: No, No, I'm told you're right on the money. 197 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 6: Look, very rarely does do power coaches hop to other 198 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 6: power schools and with if you have the NIL support 199 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 6: and you have the administrative support, I think the only 200 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 6: reason you would see somebody leave is lack of alignment 201 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 6: with the administration, right because why else would you go 202 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 6: to think you can get better players? Like you know, 203 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 6: I coached you Ma Alma Maters Cincinnati thirteen years A 204 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 6: long time, but Honestly, I thought I'd be able to 205 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 6: get better players. There was no Nil, there was no portal. 206 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 6: UCLA's Ucla, you. 207 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: Know, I mean, you know how it is. 208 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 6: You lived in LA It's I mean West Woods bell Air, Like, 209 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 6: it's such an advantage in recruiting. But then NIL comes 210 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 6: along and now it's all business. 211 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: So North North Carolina is a great job and they're 212 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 3: going to. 213 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 6: Get a great coach, but it's not what it used 214 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 6: to be as far as the advantages, the advantage. You 215 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 6: can have the same advantages at Texas Tech. You know, 216 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 6: in love with Texas if you have the money so 217 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 6: you don't, and if you're happy there and you have support, 218 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 6: especially if you have alignment, your administration is on the 219 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 6: same page. That's really important. What you know, it'd be 220 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 6: no different than an NBA coach with his front office 221 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 6: in his owner and you have that good relationship, there's 222 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 6: just no point in leaving. 223 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: Okay, Michigan Arizona. I think Arizona's going to have to 224 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: shoot some threes to win. They don't necessarily. I like Michigan. 225 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 6: Your thoughts, yeah, I says, pick them. I think everybody 226 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 6: thinks what you're thinking about Arizona. You know they're going 227 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 6: to have to make threes. They're going to have to 228 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 6: make threes. And what I would tell you is they 229 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 6: do when they need to. They just don't settle for threes. 230 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 6: So what Tommy does. They put so much pressure on 231 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 6: the rim and the paint on every possession they colin. 232 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 6: When they shoot them, they're usually wide open. They don't 233 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 6: shoot first past threes in transition. They don't shoot desperation 234 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 6: or hard shots from three. It's usually because you've helped 235 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 6: so much in the paint that those guys are now 236 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 6: playing force on the outside and they can make kar Tchhenkov's. 237 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 3: Gotten way better. 238 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 6: Like we said, Braydon Burry's is a different player. He's 239 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 6: a lottery pick. And even Avery badly can make them so. 240 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 6: And then del Orso comes in. So I don't think 241 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 6: that'll be their problem. You know what, simple could these 242 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 6: games like this could come down to free throws or 243 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 6: foul trouble in a one game shot. You know there's 244 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 6: somebody this bad night at the line like Kansas did 245 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 6: against Syracuse. 246 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: I think back in. 247 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 6: The day when coach Beyhon won his title, Kansas missed 248 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 6: like fifteen to seventeen free throws in that game, So 249 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 6: it could come down to foul trouble as well, because 250 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 6: there's going to be a lot of physicality. 251 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: At the rem in this game, and officiating is going 252 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 3: to be important. 253 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 4: I like Illinois over Yukon. Close your thoughts, Yeah. 254 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a low scoring game. 255 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 6: I think Illinois defense has really improved, and I believe 256 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 6: in Yukon's defense and their toughness. The question is going 257 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 6: to be for me Taras Reid has carried Yukon colin 258 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 6: on the interior, but he's playing against two seven foot 259 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 6: two guys yeah, that he hasn't seen and is he 260 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 6: going to be able to bull rust them and power 261 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 6: power layups? 262 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: And he had twenty six last game. 263 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 6: I mean, if he can't score inside, Yukon's in trouble 264 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 6: because they really need that because that's kind of how 265 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 6: they're built. It's from him on out, and you know, 266 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 6: because caravan is he's got to get shots off screens 267 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 6: and off of you doubling down on tars Reids. So 268 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 6: if they're able to stop Reid, it's going to really 269 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 6: sway in Yukon's or in Illinois's favor. 270 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: Finally, I asked Tom Izzo about this when he was on. 271 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: I said, you know, Tom, with the nil and the portal, 272 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: does it change the way it coached? Can you yell 273 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: a little less? I've always said the best players ever 274 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: like like confrontation, They kind of like it. Your thoughts 275 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: on and Patino Hurley, you know most of the great 276 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: coaches use volume. 277 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 4: What's your take on that. 278 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's an interesting phenomenon that people have focused so 279 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 6: much on the way people coach, you know, delivery. What 280 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 6: I would tell you is, for instance, you know, I 281 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 6: like I have gout on my team. Eric Daily Now 282 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 6: it's like he's every year coach. 283 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: You've got to be you got. 284 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 6: To get up more honest, more like we're better when 285 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 6: you're honest. 286 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: Hi May Hawkes, I. 287 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 6: Mean he was all about it, like all about it 288 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 6: at all times. Tiger Campibell just great toughness. So I 289 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 6: couldn't agree with you more. It's hard to have a 290 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 6: really good team if your best players don't want you 291 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 6: to coach him. You remember the story where Kareem had 292 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 6: the bad game against Boston, sat in the film session, 293 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 6: he told pat Riley, come on, give it to me, 294 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 6: just give it all to me. 295 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: You know, don't hold back. 296 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 6: And then he came back and like he had saw 297 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 6: the fountain of youth and dominated the next game. 298 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: And that's why he's Kareem Abdul your bar. 299 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: Yeah that Jason Tatum jokes that he had a game. 300 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: Shozchewski came in at half and the whole halftime with 301 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: Shrzewski on Tatum. Tatum scored twenty eight in the second 302 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: half at Duke and he's like, you know, he's like 303 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: it just he doesn't do it much to me, but 304 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: about once a year, twice a year, and I you 305 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: know what, uh Dad, And my dad got mad at me. 306 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: One time. 307 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: He told me, Mick, he was going, I gotta tell 308 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: the story. I don't think I've ever told this story. 309 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: So my dad was going to work. He was an optometrist. 310 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: He had the white jacket on and he was going 311 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: to move the sprinkler in the yard and he said, Tiger, 312 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: squeeze the squeeze it so that and my dad got 313 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: to it and I let it go and the sprinkler 314 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: nailed my dad at seven in the morning. 315 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: Mick, I never did that again. I never. 316 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: I'm sure you didn't. 317 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 6: Well, I can tell you my Dad's the greatest of 318 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 6: all time. I had great parents, and I wouldn't be 319 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 6: here if he wasn't hard on me. I can tell 320 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 6: you if you know, there's some stories. It was a 321 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 6: little bit different growing up in our era, Colin. It 322 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 6: was a little bit different than it is now. 323 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 4: Great seeing coach you too. 324 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, you bet, yeah, you know, Rachel, 325 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: I to this day, you don't. Dad went out there 326 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: and he was moving that sprinkler and I don't know 327 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: what got into me, and I let it go and 328 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: it just and. 329 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 4: Oh he was glasses jacket. 330 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: But I never did it again. I was coachable. I 331 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: made a mistake that I was coachable. 332 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays 333 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: and Noone Easter nin a em Pacific on Fox Sports 334 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 335 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 4: Hey it's me Rob Parker. 336 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 7: Check out my weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Parker for 337 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 7: twenty two minutes of piping hot baseball talk, featuring the 338 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 7: biggest names of newsmakers in the sport. Whether you believe 339 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 7: in analytics or the I Test, We've got all the 340 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 7: bases covered. New episodes dropped every Thursday, so do yourself 341 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 7: a favor and listen to Inside the Parker with Rob 342 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 7: Parker on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 343 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 4: Rachel with the news. Turn on the news. 344 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: This is the Herdline News. 345 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 8: I like imagining mischievous young Collins. I think that's good. 346 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 5: All right, let's keep the college basketball conversation going. Breaking 347 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 5: news in the last hour Tommy Lloyd reportedly agreeing to 348 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 5: a new five year deal with the Wildcats. This comes after, 349 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 5: of course, North Carolina was in hot pursuit. 350 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 8: Here is Lloyd on staying with Arizona. 351 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 9: I'm a simple guy. I'm kind of this one thing 352 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 9: at a time. I'm not a multitasker. You can ask 353 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 9: my wife. So I'm one hundred percent locked in on 354 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 9: Arizona basketball right now, and I'm excited to see what 355 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 9: this team can do. I have a real strong belief 356 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 9: in this team, and this team deserves my full attention, 357 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,959 Speaker 9: so that's what I'm giving them. 358 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 4: Good for him, I'm happy for him. 359 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, you've been big all show on. 360 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 5: This is good for Lloyd, this is good for Arizona. 361 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 5: What do you think this means for North Carolina? 362 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 4: Though, Well, it's a great job. 363 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm a believer in Billy Donovan, the Chicago Bulls coach 364 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: who was at Okay See. 365 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 4: I think Billy's tremendous. 366 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: I think the Bulls are a frustrating franchise as a 367 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: season ticket holder, No, I am, but this is a 368 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: good draft, so we'll see what transpires. But I would 369 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: call Billy Donovan has always been my first choice. I 370 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: think he's intense. I think it's very hard for competitive 371 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: people when they're not competitive in the current environment. And 372 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm not sure the Bulls can win in the next 373 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: two or three years, So that would be my call. 374 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 8: No, not at all. 375 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 5: And what I like about the Billy suggestion as well, 376 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 5: is like, I know it's been a while since he 377 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 5: was in college basketball, but first of all, he's clearly 378 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 5: a winner in college basketball. Because of what you've been 379 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 5: talking about, I'll show with the nil has really changed. 380 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 5: So a guy who's been out of college ball for 381 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 5: a long time. 382 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 8: Previous it was like, can. 383 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 5: You still recruit he gets transpaction in the same way anymore. 384 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 385 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 5: Right, And by the way, North Carolina has a lot 386 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 5: of money, so I like that too. All right, NBA 387 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 5: Luca d'ancic, as we've been talking about injured his hamstring 388 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 5: last night. There has not been an update yet on 389 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 5: the severity of the injury. 390 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 8: Calm, we just expect that later today. 391 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 5: But I personally, I have a hard time seeing the 392 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 5: Lakers not playing it safe here with you know how 393 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 5: long he's out agreed, Remember he had actually a hamstring 394 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 5: tweak in the first half of this game, and the 395 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 5: medical staff was like, no, you're clear to go into 396 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 5: the second half, and they absolutely, I certainly they have 397 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 5: medical degrees. I don't but considering then what happened happened, 398 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 5: and the timeframes, even if it's a minor injury, they 399 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 5: say one to two weeks, the average in the NBA 400 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 5: this year has actually been more like twenty two days, 401 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 5: which would put them. 402 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 8: Like to Game three of the NBA playoffs first round. 403 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 5: We don't know if it's more severe, if it's just 404 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 5: even a grade two, they say three to six weeks, 405 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 5: and that would obviously I think ends Wow, the Lakers 406 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 5: playoff chances kind of. 407 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 8: Right they are? I don't know. 408 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 5: I mean, I certainly this conversation of will he come 409 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 5: back and play that one more game he needs for 410 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 5: the regular season to make awards, I can't see that happen. 411 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: I mean, Rachel, they are so dependent on his offense. 412 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: I mean, like last night, Luca gets hurt, Lebron only 413 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: takes seven shots. 414 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 4: So this is We've talked about it all year. 415 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: It's a lobsided roster that needs somebody beyond Marcus Smart 416 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: to be an elite defender. And so they have been 417 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: so beholden to his offense, which remarkable. But he's number 418 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: one in the NBA and usage right by a long shot. 419 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 1: So to me, last night his body gave out. It 420 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: wasn't banging up against guys. His body gave out. 421 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 5: I mean, there's certainly a lot of argument for that. 422 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 5: I remember this is the same handstring that he hurt 423 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 5: earlier this season, so it was already a little bit tenuous. 424 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I mean, going into last night's game, 425 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 5: there was a lot of like, hey, maybe Lebron should stay. 426 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 8: With the Lakers. 427 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 5: He can embrace this third guy, roll all of this stuff. 428 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 5: We don't need to make major roster changes. I think 429 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 5: the thunder certainly put some of the lie to that 430 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 5: in terms of where they need to be, and that 431 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 5: Louis Vuitton Echelon you mentioned, and then we'll have. 432 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 8: To see if Luca gets hurt. 433 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 5: I can see some bigger changes coming there too, so 434 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 5: we'll have to see what's going on there. 435 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 8: All right, UFL, we have. 436 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 5: Some awesome Week one stuff that we've been talking about 437 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 5: and now we're going to get to Week two tonight. 438 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 8: Last week we saw, right. 439 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 5: The first four point field goal over sixty yards you 440 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 5: get four points, and Austin Reid said the single game 441 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 5: pass record, So that's fun with pass yards. I think 442 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 5: we're going to get more tonight. The DC Defenders, that's 443 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 5: my team, Colin. They take on the Columbus Aviators at 444 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 5: eight eastern on Fox, and the Aviators are a new 445 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 5: team this year, so this will actually be this franchise's 446 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 5: first home game ever, so that's pretty cool as well. 447 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 8: I know, are you psyched for this week? 448 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 449 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: Forty six guys last year in the UFL played made 450 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: NFL rosters, So we've been saying this every single year, 451 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: the quality of play gets better, and I don't there's 452 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: no exception here these If you watch the games, you 453 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: can see elite players. There's a lot of guys out 454 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: there that are going to end up playing on Sundays. 455 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 5: Let's you know, tonight on Fox. This is my team, 456 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 5: the DC team. They won the championship last year, their 457 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 5: favorites to win again, So everybody should watch and cheer 458 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 5: for my team. 459 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's reasonable. Rachel with the news, Well, 460 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 4: that's the. 461 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 8: News, and thanks for stopping by the. 462 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: Herd Line news. 463 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: Minnesota moving up, Rockets moving down the playoffs if they 464 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: were to begin tomorrow, Rachel and I are going to 465 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: go series this series. There won't be a lot of 466 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: changes going forward. That that's next. It's the Hurt. 467 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 468 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: and neonon Easter. Not a im Pacific. 469 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 4: So I had said. 470 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: A couple maybe it was last week I said, I 471 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: think there's only three teams that can win it. Spurs, 472 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: Celtics and Oka. See Okac's defense, Spurs depth is insane, 473 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 1: and Wemby and I think the Celtics offensive efficiency. They 474 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: just don't commit turnovers. It's a very clean, smart Jalen 475 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: Brown and Tatum very heady guys. So it's a very clean, smart, 476 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 1: efficient team. They don't have a real weakness. They got 477 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: a little old with Horford and Porzingis and they moved 478 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: off them. Now they're younger, little, you know, more nimble 479 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: in the front court. So I really like the Celtics. 480 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: So Rachel, she's got an MVP vote. She is in 481 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: arenas all over this country on a regular basis. We 482 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: always have to call and say, hey, are you available? 483 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: If not, she' said's more on a plane going to this. 484 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: So let's start. We can have a little little light 485 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: NBA music. Let's start with the Eastern Conference. I'll set 486 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: it up for you, all right, Pistons one seed, Hornets, 487 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: eight seed, Who do you like? 488 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 5: And wht I'm putting an asterisk on my pick here. 489 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 5: I have the Pistons coming out of this. But it 490 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 5: really depends on Caate Cunningham, and the expectation is he's. 491 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 8: Back for the playoffs. 492 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 5: But with a collapse lung, it's not like you can 493 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 5: do conditioning in the meantime, right if you have like 494 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 5: a shoulder injury, you can still run in the meantime. 495 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 8: You can't do that when you have a collapse lung. 496 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 5: So I'm very curious to see what he looks like 497 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 5: when he comes back, because even though this is the 498 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 5: number two rated defense in the NBA, he's what makes 499 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 5: that offense run Without him, the Hornets have been spicy, man, Colin. 500 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 5: I don't know how much you've been paying attention they are. 501 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 5: There're twenty five and eight in their last thirty three games, 502 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 5: and that's, by the way, like forty percent of the season. 503 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 5: So if Kate isn't himself, or if he certainly isn't back, 504 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 5: I might go back on this, But for now, I 505 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 5: gotta say Pistons. 506 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 8: For that one. 507 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're a better defensive team. They're very physical team. 508 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: I think I think Caroline has been a great story. 509 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: I don't think they're ready to beat Detroit. I think 510 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: Detroit's just got just got a little more time tested. 511 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: So I'll take Detroit. Okay, Calves Hawks. I never know 512 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: what to make of this Cavs team. Caves Hawks, what 513 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: do you got? 514 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 5: I'm going to go Caves here, no asterisks, no reservations. 515 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 5: I mean, the Hawks have had some plucky moments this season. 516 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 5: But I like the idea of James Harden on this 517 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 5: Cavaliers team. 518 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 8: I'll continue to talk about this through this segment, but. 519 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 5: We've seen Harden run out of gas in the playoffs. 520 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 8: Right when he said this crazy high usage rate. 521 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 5: During the season, He's now not going to be the 522 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 5: primary offensive guy, and he wasn't with Kawhi, but Kawhi 523 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 5: was in and out during the playoffs because of injuries. 524 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 5: Donovan Mitchell has had a rock star season. I just 525 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 5: saw them the other night, and I'm curious to see 526 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 5: what James can do next to Donovan. They obviously have 527 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 5: some strong defensive play there, you know, with the big guys. 528 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 5: So I think this will actually be pretty easy for 529 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 5: the Caps to handle this first round. 530 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 4: All right, Nick's very reliant. 531 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: They're starting five, not much bench scoring, don't generate free 532 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: throws attempts either, so they need Jalen Brunson and Kat 533 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: to deliver. 534 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 4: They take on the Sixers. I like New York, what 535 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 4: say you? 536 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 8: I like New York, but I got to tell you. 537 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 5: I am conflicted about this one because New York has 538 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 5: not beaten a team with a winning record in nearly 539 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 5: a month. Colin and the floor just fell out on 540 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 5: them the other night versus Houston. They didn't look good 541 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 5: against the Thunder. They're having some of the stagnation issues 542 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 5: they had last year. There still seems to be a 543 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 5: bit of a role thing with Kat. 544 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 8: What does he do? 545 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 5: And Brunston's underground, some criticism and all of that. So look, 546 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 5: Philadelphia certainly has looked so much better in recent weeks. 547 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 5: They've got all their guys back. Joelle sick right now, 548 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 5: but in general. 549 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 8: Paul George at forty points the other night. 550 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I got to give the next to 551 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 5: the edge. They were the preseason pick to come out. 552 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 8: In this conference. But this is going to be very. 553 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 5: Spicy, and I think it's gonna be one of the 554 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 5: most fun first round matches. 555 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: Number two in offensive efficiency, Celtics and the Raptors. 556 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 4: Pretty obvious here, right, Yeah. 557 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 5: I mean, look, I'm picking the Celtics come out of 558 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 5: the East. We'll see that in a minute. And I 559 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 5: don't think this is going to be if it's not 560 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 5: a sweet but it might be a gentleman's one. 561 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 562 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: Okay, then we go up back to the top the 563 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: number four. Now we go Pistons Calves again. If Caid's healthy, 564 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: I like Detroit, what about you. 565 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 5: I'm going to go with the Cavs on this one. 566 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 5: I you know, I'm not going to pick them to 567 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 5: win the East. 568 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 8: You'll see that. 569 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 5: But I do think that this is a stronger team 570 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 5: than people think. And I do think if Jared Allen 571 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 5: can stay healthy and in there, I think that they 572 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 5: will do some damage here. And the Pistons just they 573 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 5: still don't have quite the offense that they need to 574 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 5: get as far in the playoffs as I think their 575 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 5: fan base deserves. And I'm interested to see what they 576 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 5: do in the off season because I don't think they 577 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 5: were at their best at the trade deadline, and I 578 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 5: think the Caves will come out of this winners. 579 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: So again, the Knicks are very reliant on their starting five. 580 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: They don't get to the free throw line, they don't 581 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: have a lot of points in the paint. Kind of 582 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: depends on if Brunton and Cat are hot. Sometimes Kat 583 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: won't be in the game late. I think I don't 584 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: like the match up here for New York against Boston. 585 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 5: To you, I do not, And look, you know, New 586 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 5: York was legitimate beating the Celtics last season when Jason 587 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 5: Tatum got hurt, so that I think they would have 588 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 5: won that playoff series anyway. But this is a different year, 589 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 5: different teams, different coach, and I just think the way 590 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 5: Tatum has so seamlessly come back in is shot making 591 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 5: isn't exactly what it used to be. But that doesn't 592 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 5: have to be that way. I'm picking the Celtics in 593 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 5: this one, and I'm not conflicted about that one. 594 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: A lot of talent. Boston and Cleveland in the Eastern 595 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: Conference Final. Again, you just Tatum and Brown had been 596 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: in so many big games. I think they have the 597 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: fewest turnovers in the league. They're a clean team. If 598 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: they're like Michigan basketball, if they're shooting well, I mean, 599 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: they could win this thing in four or five games. 600 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 4: Your thoughts on it. 601 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, they have an elite coach, they 602 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 5: have elite players. Jalen Brown is going to be an 603 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 5: MVP conversation this year. Tatum, obviously, we know what he 604 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 5: can do. And it is boring Colin when they just 605 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 5: launch all these three after threes, but it is effective. 606 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 5: The math problem we talked about in the NBA three 607 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 5: is worth more than two. I think that they will 608 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 5: be able to overpower anyone that they see in the East. 609 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 5: And they're just I mean, the more you see them play, 610 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 5: they're the class of the conference. 611 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's go to the West, which is 612 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: considered certainly middle up the better conference. Number one thunder 613 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: against the Blazers, is it a sweep. 614 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 4: What do you think. 615 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 8: I yes, I never like to say sweep. 616 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 6: You never know. 617 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 5: People can be gritty, but man, the thunder all about 618 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 5: their business. 619 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 8: You saw that last night, and they're just so consistent. 620 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 5: They've got a bunch of injured players who've come back, 621 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 5: and I see this as a super easily handibl bull 622 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 5: series for that. 623 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: Okay, Denver, if they're healthy, is a handful. I think 624 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: they could end up in the conference finals. Houston has 625 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: a big issue whereas they don't have a true point guard. 626 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: They're bad in clutch situations, and you're not blowing Denver out. 627 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: Rockets are a fun team for me to watch, but 628 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: they're also frustrating. 629 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 4: Who do you like here? 630 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 8: I Nuggets certainly. 631 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 5: I mean, look, the Brackets did have another great win 632 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 5: the other night over the Knicks, but I just don't 633 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 5: think when you face Nicola Jokic and Jamal Murray when 634 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 5: he's in the playoffs, and the way that team has 635 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 5: gotten more depth this year, I picked the Nuggets pretty 636 00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 5: easily in this one. 637 00:28:59,120 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 4: Okay. 638 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: I think the most interesting first round series in either 639 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: conference is Lakers Tea Wolves. Now you know and is 640 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: going to hunt down Austin Reeves and Luca. 641 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 4: There's a little wild card here. 642 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: How many games does Luca play in the series with 643 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: a hamstring? He possibly won't be in great shape when 644 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: he plays. I think it's a really really interesting series. 645 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: I think JJ Reddicks a better coach today than he 646 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: was a year ago. Today. I think it's a close series. 647 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 4: What do you think? 648 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 5: I think it's close, and I'm putting an asterisk on 649 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 5: my Lakers pick because of the Luca factor. But I 650 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 5: actually don't think that if Luca is at full strength, he's. 651 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 8: This is going to be as close as you do. 652 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 8: We'll have to see who's right. 653 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 5: But you know, the Lakers have handled the Timberwolves all season. 654 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 5: I think they're three to zero against them, and the 655 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 5: last time that they played, the Timberwolves couldn't shoot their 656 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 5: way out of a paper bag. I just think over 657 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 5: time a seven game series, the Lakers offensive firepower will 658 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 5: win out in this one. But it will be close 659 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 5: for sure, and it could go six or seven games. 660 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 5: And if Luca's hurt, then absolutely I see Anthony Edwards 661 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 5: running roughshot there. 662 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 4: Phoenix was good for them. Surprisingly interesting this year. 663 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: I mean we thought it was a tire fire for 664 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: Phoenix about a year ago. We're like, and they actually 665 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: played their butts off. The chemistry was good. Good luck 666 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: against the Spurs. What's the series going to look like? 667 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 5: By the way, I'm going to recommend that the Sun's 668 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 5: marketing staff put that on a poster to season siccred 669 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 5: holders Colin Cowherd Phoenix. 670 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 8: Good for them. But yeah, I totally agree with you. 671 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 5: Look, I have been very impressed with what they have 672 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 5: done this season. 673 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 8: Dema Booker is a pro man. He is just so good. 674 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 5: But I don't think they would stand a chance in this. 675 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 5: And you know, I've been on Victor Webinava before he 676 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 5: even got drafted. I think he's going to be a 677 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 5: top ten, top five player of all time and he 678 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 5: is out for blood in this playoffs for sure. 679 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, see Denver your thoughts. 680 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Okay. See here, just Denver. 681 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 5: You know there's been enough little issues in little tells. Now, 682 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 5: these guys had a great playoff series last season. 683 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 8: It could have gone either way. 684 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 5: I got to give the Thunder the edge raining champions 685 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 5: just all the sort of complete play that they have. 686 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 5: But Nicolai Okichman, I still think if you know, if 687 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 5: he's not the best player in the NBA, he's one 688 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 5: of two. So I think this will be another six 689 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 5: or seven gamer. 690 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: I also think, okay See, you saw it last night, 691 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: will shift gears. I think once you win a title, 692 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: you don't get the true team in the regular season. 693 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: I think okay See is going to shift gears and 694 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: it's going to look clearly in that series better Lakers, 695 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: Spurs again wildly entertaining a lot of veteran Laker players, 696 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: very young Spurs team. 697 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 4: What do you got? 698 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm going Spurs on this one. 699 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 5: I know a lot of Lakers fans, especially before last night, 700 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 5: we're like, oh, we could beat the Spurs. You know, 701 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 5: we can probably beat the Thunder. I don't think so. 702 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 5: I mean again, look, we'll see. And it's fun to 703 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 5: have a big offensive output series if that's what this 704 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 5: turns out to be. And I would trust Luca in 705 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 5: the last thirty seconds of any game. That being said, 706 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 5: I just so firmly believe in the Spurs team. If 707 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 5: anybody can break the sort of NBA true you got 708 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 5: to fail in the playoffs to win in the playoffs, 709 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 5: I think it's this team. And I just love women 710 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 5: Yama's focus and the way he's so determined this season 711 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 5: to not just do better than last year, but do best. 712 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 713 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: So, the Spurs, for the record, have eight players averaging 714 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: Douball figures. In the history of the NBA that has 715 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: never happened, so their depth is unbelievable. They also have 716 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: the greatest defensive player of all time, Wemby. I like 717 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: san Antonio over Okay, see in a six game series, 718 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: what say you? 719 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 8: It's you and me and the dark Colin. I am 720 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 8: with you, and we are pretty much the only ones. 721 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 5: Most people you know looking at this matchup will pick 722 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 5: the Thunder. 723 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 8: I'm with you. 724 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 5: I think that the Spurs, obviously, we saw what they 725 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 5: did to Oklahoma. 726 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 8: City this season. 727 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 5: I think they won three out of four, And I 728 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 5: just think Wemby is unanswerable. 729 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 8: And I actually think the longer series go, the. 730 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 5: More advantage he has the strength of playing against Wemby 731 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 5: right now is you can throw him things he hasn't 732 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 5: quite seen before. 733 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 8: That's not going to happen for three or four. 734 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 5: Games in a row because he will have seen it 735 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 5: and then he just and he's shown that over and 736 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 5: over again. 737 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: Finally, this would be a great Final, the very young 738 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: emerging Spurs against the veteran Boston Celtics. I think this 739 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: will be This is where Boston has an advantage. Missoula 740 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: has been there, the roster's been there. I think it's 741 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: a really good series. I will probably go san Antonio. 742 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 5: You I'm going, san Antonio. I'm gonna, I'm I'm I'm this. 743 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 5: I'd rather be early than late on this team. And 744 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 5: you know, I think super highly of the Celtics. But 745 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 5: I'd love to see the energy in the NBA that 746 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 5: shift you're talking about generationally. If the Spurs can go 747 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 5: out and win this, I mean, how great would that 748 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 5: be for the league And to have Weeb just sort 749 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 5: of raining. 750 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: Over it all. Yeah, and Stefan Castle since the All 751 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: Star Break is shooting the lights out on the three 752 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: point shot. He's always had every other element to his game. Defense, aggressive, 753 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: can finish at the rims. Stefan Castle is on an 754 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: absolute two month heater from the perimeter, and I think 755 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: that is the difference, because Boston's gonna have those games. Yeah, 756 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: when they are on fire, you gotta have somebody to 757 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: match them. I don't worry about the Spurs on the 758 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: interior Rachel Nichols filling in today for you were great. 759 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: Thank you so much on late notice for filling in, 760 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: absolutely great stuff. 761 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 4: Nice shows, good good week. 762 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: Mit Cronin stopped by Daniel Jeremiah. You know, the Draft 763 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: next week we really start getting closer to the draft. 764 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: The NBA playoffs are around the corner. We'll keep you 765 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: updated on Luca Dantage and that situation. MRI will wait 766 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: for results, we'll see them Monday.