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Speaker 1: Great move to the right at the fifth, he comes

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Speaker 1: up and make a flight hit one hit. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: he got crushed. You've gotta be Kidney, come off the

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Speaker 1: ball with malice. Here's Paul Calvc. You know, normally, guys,

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Speaker 1: we don't start with any sort of weather report. But

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Speaker 1: let's see here. Darren Urban, based on the visuals, is

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Speaker 1: wearing a sweatshirt. We've got a hoodie for Kyle Odegard

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Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Underground. Let's just see here. The fact

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Speaker 1: Maybe there's a line here to start things off about

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Speaker 1: how Hell really has frozen over. I'm not exactly sure,

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Speaker 1: He said, we were laughing on the sideline. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: do you explain that? Paul? You know you started that

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Speaker 1: That's what they do, and that's what good teams do.

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Speaker 1: kind of scary moment where he had to be taken

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Speaker 1: off on a stretcher during the game. They got both

431
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 1: put on r and Drake did not. And even though

432
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 1: the rules are you only have to spend three weeks

433
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 1: on there, I'm I'm hoping that that's a good sign

434
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 1: for Kenyan Drake that maybe there's a little bit of

435
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 1: leeway where maybe three weeks he could come back as

436
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 1: early as three weeks or a couple of weeks, and

437
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 1: maybe they want to keep that flexibility. I mean, we'll see.

438
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 1: Perhaps he goes on ir later and then my whole

439
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: theory gets blown up, but we'll see what happens. Clearly,

440
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 1: he's gonna probably miss at least one game, if not

441
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 1: a couple, and we're gonna get to see Chase Edmonds

442
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: in that number one role, which he excelled that last

443
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: year until he got her so the backup running back,

444
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 1: because that player does have a role in this off

445
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: We look at an Eno Benjamin automatically he hasn't dressed,

446
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: though Jonathan Ward has or do you think the pecking

447
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: order is Kyle? Yeah, And I asked Cliff Kingsbury that

448
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: and he said there is no pecking order right now.

449
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: He thinks it might be a group effort. You know,

450
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 1: hasn't been dressing. But it's a different It's a different

451
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 1: story when you're the third running back, because when you're

452
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: number three, they want you to do special teams and

453
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: a different type of role. When you're number two, you're

454
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Speaker 1: focused on the offense. So if they feel like Eno

455
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 1: Benjamin is the best offensive player among the remaining running backs,

456
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: then I think it will be him. But I also

457
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: think it's a legitimate question because Jonathan Ward is a

458
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,959
Speaker 1: pretty good runner from what we've seen, and even DJ Foster,

459
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 1: who's on the practice squad, he's the one that knows

460
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: the playbook the best. He plays special teams, he's the

461
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: best receiver of the bunch. He knows how to pass protect,

462
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 1: He does a lot of things well for the Cardinals.

463
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: So DJ Foster might not be the explosive type athlete

464
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Speaker 1: of a Chase Edmonds and maybe not of an Eno Benjamin.

465
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Speaker 1: But if you just a guy who is not going

466
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: to mess up an assignment and not gonna miss a

467
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: blitzer and let Kyler Murray get sacked, I mean that

468
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 1: sort of stuff is important. Too, so we'll see which

469
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: way they go. But I do think that number two

470
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: running back is important, and I've talked about you know,

471
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: analytics says running backs are replaceable, and I do think

472
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 1: it's one position where you can find guys. But we

473
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: saw last year when you got down to Zach Zenter

474
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,959
Speaker 1: and Alfred Morris, that took a big chunk out of

475
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: what you could do offensively. So the Cardinals need whoever

476
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Speaker 1: is the number two to be a serviceable running back

477
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: when he plays, if it's only ten or fifteen percent

478
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,479
Speaker 1: of the snaps, you need a guy that's not going

479
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: to grind the offense to a halt. A couple of

480
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: things to watch on that. First of all, DJ fosters

481
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: on the practice squad right now, and I don't know

482
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Speaker 1: if he's got any more elevations left, so he might

483
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: have to be put on the active roster for him

484
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: to be that guy. So if they don't elevate him

485
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 1: promote him for good, then that'll give us some kind

486
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: of sign. I do know that that probably wouldn't be

487
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Speaker 1: the issue player that all the fans want. I know

488
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: all the fans seem to be aching for some eno Benjamin,

489
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: and there's going to be some disappointment after all this

490
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 1: if he doesn't get to be the number two. And

491
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: I agree with Kyle, I don't know if that's necessarily

492
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Speaker 1: going to be the fact. I did think. I thought,

493
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, Benjamin actually looked pretty decent in training camp.

494
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: But I thought Jonathan Warden did too, So it's going

495
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: to be very interesting to see how that plays out.

496
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: I honestly forgot about DJ Foster much less Zack Zenter

497
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: and Alfred Morris. So that's good. That was good knowledge

498
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: right there that way. Now back to the good news here, Darren.

499
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 1: If we're looking at guys coming off ir yeah, and

500
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Speaker 1: there are some significant names who are on the verge

501
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: of coming back, go ahead and detail that for us. Well.

502
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Jalen Thompson's been practicing with a team for

503
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. I'd be stunned if he wasn't

504
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: the one, if he wasn't one guy who was back

505
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins game when they come off the buy.

506
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: So you'll have both your starting safeties, which would be

507
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: nice to pair with to get him back out there

508
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: with Buddha Baker, but you've also got the very real

509
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Speaker 1: possibility of getting Max william back a tight end, and

510
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: I think that would be gigantic. We all saw the

511
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 1: struggles that Darrell Daniels had the other night. I do

512
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 1: think Max Williams would make a huge difference in the

513
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: offense and the things that he can do if he's

514
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: finally healthy. And you're still waiting to see about j R.

515
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: Sweezy and Richard Lawrence. Now, you know, I think Justin

516
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: Murray did a solid job at guard. So I don't

517
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: know if they're that panicked about trying to get Squeezy back.

518
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: And I don't know how bad the elbow injury was. Again,

519
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: if you go on IR, it's a minimum of three weeks,

520
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean you're only out at three weeks.

521
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: It could be however long. And then Lawrence, I think

522
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: it would just be good to have that guy back

523
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: on the rotation, especially now that you don't have Zach Allen. Yeah,

524
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: they could use some reinforcements at D line. There's no

525
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: doubt about that. And Max Williams that is intriguing right there.

526
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: Not only is he still your best blocker, but you

527
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: know Max Williams on that play and your first possession,

528
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: he doesn't drop that fifteen yard plus game. You know,

529
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: there's just something about when the opponents the game with

530
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: a sixth place, seventy five yard drive, you're down seven nothing,

531
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: then your first play from scrimmage it's a dropped wide

532
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: open pass. It just I will say that. I will

533
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 1: say this, Paul on that. You know, Darrell Daniels made

534
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: a catch up a wide open fourth down play with

535
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 1: maybe even more pressure on him to not drop it

536
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: in New York, and I just to me, I just

537
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: chalked it up to a bad game. I think Daniels

538
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: has played pretty decently, especially as a receiver, so he

539
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: dropped it, and it was the beginning of a horrific night,

540
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: you know, missing a couple of blocks, getting yelled at

541
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: by Kyler Murray. You know, he got a false start

542
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: at a bad time. I think it was a false

543
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 1: start or hold or something. I'm just gonna chalk it

544
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: up to a bad play, bad night, And it was.

545
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: There's no doubt it really bottomed out when and believe me,

546
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: you could hear it. You could hear the quarterback yelling

547
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: at number eighty one. It was the entire sideline noticed

548
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: and honestly, having witnessed many an airing out by Kurt

549
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: Warner of young guys like Steve Breston. I'm in favor

550
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: for it. I really am. You are a pseudo, You're

551
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: you're a team captain, you're a team leader, you're you're

552
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: almost a player coach as the starting quarterback. And I

553
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: think it's sent a message to the entire sideline that

554
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: it's not okay to start slow like this. And I

555
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: did see a reaction visibly. It was a palpable reaction

556
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: to Kyler holding Darrell Daniels accountable. Give me your reaction, Kyle. Yeah.

557
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: I mean, and especially when you're winning, that stuff is

558
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: easy because in the moment you can try to figure

559
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: stuff out, and then if you go on to win

560
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: the game, there's not going to be very many lingering,

561
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: hard feelings. And I mean, different guys take being yelled

562
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: at different ways, and I think you have to know

563
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: which players that you should be forceful with and which

564
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: ones you should praise. So I think Kyler Murray might

565
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: want to, you know, have an idea of the way

566
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 1: other these guys react. But certainly he's not the rookie

567
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: anymore who's not trying to step on toes. I mean, now,

568
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: in a couple weeks in a row. We've been talking

569
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: about Kylie Murray getting in exchanges with some of his teammates,

570
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: but he's a competitive guy. And this team, you can

571
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: feel that they're already feeling like our aspirations are getting

572
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: pretty high and we feel like we have a very

573
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: talented group and we can't afford to waste this by not,

574
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, doing the right things, or losing focus or anything.

575
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,239
Speaker 1: So and like I said, if you're winning and you're

576
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: yelling at people, nobody's gonna care because it's always everything

577
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: is going well and you can easily brush it off.

578
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: It's when a team starts losing and then the bickering happens,

579
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: then you worry about things starting to fray. But you know,

580
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: right now, I feel like it can be a good

581
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: thing where everybody knows we want to hold each other accountable.

582
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: And I think it's how and where you do it

583
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 1: as well. And Wolf made this point, if you're yelling

584
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: at one of your teammates on the field, that's one thing.

585
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: You come to the sideline and that's sort of your sanctuary,

586
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: and it happens there. That's more suitable, that's more palatable acceptable.

587
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 1: Now the Sunday night cameras, they got cameras everywhere. They

588
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: caught it. Okay, but you know, it's how and where

589
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: you do it. You don't want to embarrass one of

590
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: your teammates, either in the huddle or on the field.

591
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: You try and keep it to the sideline, which once

592
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: you come back in between series. Well, and I think

593
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: the win is a great point in terms of you know, again,

594
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: if if the timeline was right and if he got

595
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: in Daniel's face, was it after the screen pass the Hopkins,

596
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: I think it might have been yea, And well, and

597
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll just tell you this from the sideline.

598
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 1: There was there was a series before it where he

599
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: actually came down the sideline and talked to Derell Daniels

600
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: and the tight ends coach and they looked at a

601
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: tablet together and Kyler was pointing. And then there was

602
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: another offensive series. Things did not go well because remember

603
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: they started with the three punts right and then and

604
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: so anyway, then they came back and it was that

605
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: third time. It was after that third possession where it happened.

606
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: So there was sort of there was a frustration on

607
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: the field, there was talking to on the sideline, and

608
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: then there's what you sighted, Darren, and then boom, that's

609
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: when it occurred. And see that that's one of those

610
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: things where it's like that's it's it's a win thing.

611
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean, they tried to do it the nice way,

612
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: I guess essentially is what I'm trying to say. And

613
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: and after a while you don't get to you don't

614
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: get to keep saying oh my bad, my bad. At

615
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: some point you're gonna hear about it. And the tough

616
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: thing for Daniels was there was another the play, the

617
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: play right before the missfield going overtime where Kyler took

618
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: the snap that was Daniels missing the block there too,

619
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: So it was just an overall tough night for him.

620
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: And again going back to okay, you missed the catch,

621
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: that's going to happen, and like you said, maybe there

622
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: was a couple other plays and it just kind of

623
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: built up. And again, when it's about when you can't

624
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: just yell at a guy every single time he makes

625
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: a mistake, or if he makes one mistake, it's when

626
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: if he's made multiple mistakes, I think that opens the

627
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: door a little bit more for you to like kind

628
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: really take charge there because you just can't have it,

629
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: and look, guys are gonna drop balls. What's most remarkable

630
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: to me is Darrell Daniels is known as as a

631
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: hard nose blocking tight end. We've seen it in camp guys.

632
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he will lay the lumber, he will put

633
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: a helmet on a guy. And so that was most

634
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: shocking to me was that he had missed some blocks.

635
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: He'd try to cut a few guys, and whereas we've

636
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: seen him just be a stout blocker, the point of

637
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: attack that that wasn't there either, And so I'm not

638
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: exactly sure why on that. And by the way, they

639
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: didn't start with the three punts obviously because they had

640
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: the d top thirty five yard touchdown pass. And I

641
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: bring that up as a segue because what Cliff Kingsbury

642
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: told us a couple of weeks earlier on his weekly

643
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: TV show Game Plan about how, yes, he steals plays,

644
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: but he cites his sources. I agree at which game

645
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: was in which play, but he said he had taken

646
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: a play from Texas and he had taken one. So

647
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: he's watching everything NFL college ball, and then Kyle the

648
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: play from Ohio Day, which you know, which got a

649
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: lot of run nationally. Yeah, and it was. It was

650
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: funny watching it live because I'm on the concourse for

651
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: the game, and I saw the assistant coach on the

652
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: sideline really waving his arms demonstratively, and everybody looked over

653
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: and it looked legit, and then they snapped it and

654
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: obviously got the touchdown, and then you know, people tweeted

655
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: out the score and I rewatched it and I was like,

656
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: I think they did this on purpose, because everybody was

657
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: looking over and then when it snapped, they all went

658
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: and there was not anybody like confused. So I thought

659
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: maybe this was a trick play and just a fantastic

660
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: one and obviously a good place on the field to

661
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: call it, right by where the coaches are and you

662
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: look over at him. Just a really good idea. And

663
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: then it really the optimal scenario where you get a

664
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: thirty five yard touchdown on it too. I'm really curious

665
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: to know because that was third and two. Do you

666
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: do that? I mean, Cliff was like, even if it

667
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: doesn't hit, that's good. You put it in their heads,

668
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, yeah, but if it doesn't hit you

669
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: just it was third and two, do you go for

670
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: it on fourth and two? Which knowing Cliff and where

671
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: they were on the field, he was gonna go for

672
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: it anyway. So maybe that's another reason. Yeah, they were

673
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: at the thirty five of Seattle, So the assistant coach

674
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: gets a supporting Actor award? Is that what we're saying? So,

675
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: and then to make it more ridiculous, in woll site

676
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: of this right away because I hadn't seen it until

677
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: I went to my phone and I found the clip

678
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: because it was on It was on Twitter. But Kylos

679
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: got the ball, but he doesn't have the lass. That's

680
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: that's remarkable to me. I just I know he's sort

681
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: a million passes in his life. But to have a

682
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: third and two at the thirty five and in an

683
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: NFL game, with the game, you know, hanging in the balance,

684
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: you're already down ten nothing, you just grip it and

685
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: rip it without even have vlass, to me, that's remarkable.

686
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: The funny thing is is he actually had a moment

687
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: to get the laces if he wanted. If you watched

688
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: the replay, he catches it and he pats it and

689
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: then throws it. He had a moment to switch it

690
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: if he really needed to. But it was like so

691
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: in rhythm and it was just and with the smile

692
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: caught on camera. That was a fantastic play. And he

693
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: did catch Quentin Dunbar unawares, but Dunbar was pretty had

694
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: pretty good coverage. When he was doing the postgame interview

695
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: with Michelle Tafoyle, I wanted to tell Michelle, ask him

696
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: how often does he throw a pass without grabbing the laces?

697
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: That's the answer I need here tonight Forget to win.

698
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. I'm not doing the

699
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: Film Room Breakdown this year because COVID made it too

700
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: hard to set up interviews and stuff. But that was

701
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: one play I wish I really could have done it.

702
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: Get inside the head of Cliff and Kyler and all

703
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: these guys, and it would have been fun to figure

704
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: out everything. A part of that play was really really

705
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: cool play for Cliff to drop up, and they executed

706
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: it so well. Wait a minute, you were if you

707
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: had film room and you wouldn't You weren't going to

708
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: do the Buddha return. Oh no, I would have been

709
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: that play. I like the ones that are more interesting.

710
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: That that was pretty interesting. That was remarkable as well.

711
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: I mean that while that I mean and for those

712
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: people who don't know, you guys do Buddha Baker in

713
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: high school won a state title in the one hundred

714
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: meters and the two hundred meters, so to be chased

715
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: down like that by DK Metcalf. And I said this

716
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: on the air at the time when I was a

717
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: young punkin intern in San Francisco. I was in a

718
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 1: Monday night game Candlestick Park and Jerry Rice got loose

719
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 1: and he caught what was an ADR touchdown pass somehow

720
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: got behind Daryl Green and to have flash eighty blow

721
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: by us on the sideline. With Darryl Green in hot pursuit,

722
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: you knew instantly you were on an NFL field. And

723
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: then we all saw Chris Johnson rip off that ninety

724
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: yard or against the Cardinals when he was a member

725
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: of the Titans, and DRC gave Chase lay. DRC always

726
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: said that he closed on Chris Johnson, although he didn't

727
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: get him before the goal line. I don't know about that,

728
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: but the next Gen stats said that DK Metcalf reached

729
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: twenty two point five something miles per hour and traveled

730
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen yards to reach a Baker. I

731
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: just between that and and it's funny Neither one of

732
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: these plays end up in the box score in any way,

733
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: shape or form other than the one tackle. But between

734
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: that and then the speed and power that he ran

735
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: with after he caught that overtime screen that he scored

736
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: the touchdown on that didn't count because of the holding.

737
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it was one thing when he's chasing down Buddha,

738
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: that just showed me his raw speed, especially at that size.

739
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: But when he had the ball and he's running down

740
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: that sideline and I'm thinking, a guy that can generate

741
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: that much speed at that much size and you're trying

742
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: to tackle him, I mean, it's just it's it's really

743
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 1: mind blowing. I mean, I can it's amazing how he's

744
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: turned into what he's turned into. And I know, I'm

745
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: sure somebody's gonna listen to it and throw something at

746
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: the television and say, why didn't we draft him instead

747
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: of Andy Isabella and all this stuff. But he he's

748
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: a specimen in a half well, and he's so much

749
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: better than he was coming out of college. And Russell

750
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: Wilson will tell you that, Kyle, you did the team

751
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: to team with the Seattle b writer. I thought the

752
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: most interesting thing I that whole sequence was when he

753
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: said that two of them quarantined together, Russell Wilson and

754
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf. And and you listen to the personnel people,

755
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: he's a much better route runner in year two. He's

756
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: even catching the ball better away from his body with

757
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: his hands in year two versus year one. He is

758
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: a toy. He might be the same specimen and had

759
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: the same measurables, he's a much different player. Yeah, and

760
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: obviously that's why he fell. I think there were medical

761
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: concerns first of all, but also can he play receiver?

762
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: Because clearly he was a freak athlete at the combine,

763
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: like the size and the speed which was all on

764
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: display as he tracked down Buddha. You saw that stuff.

765
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: But you're right, can you be a technical route runner?

766
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: Can you catch the ball? And he's certainly checked all

767
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: those boxes, And yeah, the Cardinals are going to have

768
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: their hands full for the foreseeable future are covering him.

769
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: And I think that goes back to what you were saying,

770
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: Paul about Patrick, where just a really phenomenal job against

771
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, knowing how how much of a physical freak

772
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: he is and how athletic he is, So I think

773
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: it was. I mean, it was a good pick by them,

774
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: and you know, yeah, the Andya Isabella thing that that

775
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: is tough to swallow for the Cardinals knowing that dk

776
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 1: Metcalf is going to be a superstar. But I think

777
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: back to, yes, if you want to do that, then

778
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: let's talk about Kyler Murray and not taking him. And

779
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: that was the decision that you had to get right,

780
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals got that one way right. So even

781
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 1: if you took DK Metcalf but you had Bosa and Rosen,

782
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: you're probably not better as a team right now than

783
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: you were in that case. So there's always going to

784
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: be draft picks which you hit and miss. But the

785
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: Cardinals hit on Kyler Murray well. And even when we

786
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: talk about these two teams, especially given the time frame

787
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: and how they're the legion of boom was getting older,

788
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: you would think that the Seahawks wish they would have

789
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: taken Buddha Baker one pick ahead of the Cardinals instead

790
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: of taking McDowell, the defensive lineman that never worked out

791
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: for them. They could use some Buddha Baker in their

792
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: in their secondary right now. So, by the way, you're

793
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: absolutely right on that one. I mean, Buddha's writing their

794
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: own backyard and you know, training with his with their

795
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: own players, and they still didn't didn't take him. Um

796
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: by the way in the DK Metcalf not only you know,

797
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: were we thankful that it was reversed and it wasn't

798
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: a game when he touchdown. But I don't know about

799
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: you guys, I was thankful they didn't run that more.

800
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: I mean, why are they not running more bubble screens?

801
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: The DK Metcalf? Why did you see that earlier in

802
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 1: the game he had he had the one crossing route

803
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,959
Speaker 1: where he caught it and it's just like, oh man,

804
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: and then yeah, the bubble screens. So maybe they do

805
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: I mean, just put him in the backfield or solves,

806
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: just get him the ball at least ten times ago,

807
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: although maybe the reason they didn't was the exact reason

808
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: that happened. I mean, if you look at how they

809
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: tried to block that the other guys, the problem is

810
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 1: you want DK Metcalf as a player blocking on those

811
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: kinds of plays because he get a body on him.

812
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: I mean, more did not a terrible job on holding

813
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Peterson. And that's the thing. Why hold the guy

814
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Peterson probably isn't taking dk metcalf down, just just

815
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: getting his way a little bit. And and the other

816
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: thing about that play, Patrick Peterson's lucky he didn't tear

817
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: his knee up because I don't know if it was

818
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: locket somebody went right at his knees and yes, are yeah,

819
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: And he came up gingerly and I held my breath,

820
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: you know, he came up and he was sort of

821
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: dancing around on one leg, you know, like, oh no.

822
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: Speaking of the defense, and as we come out of

823
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: the bye week, Marcus Golden, what what's a realistic expectation? Guys?

824
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Kyle, what do you think? I'm Marcus Golden.

825
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 1: How much of a role did he have this year

826
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: with the Giants? I saw you got a sack in

827
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: his last game Thursday night against the Eagles. He had

828
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: ten sacks a year ago. But ed he really been

829
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: part of the rotation for the Giants defense with a

830
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: new DC. He was playing probably a thirty five forty

831
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: percent of the time. And yeah, I don't think he

832
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: fit maybe schematically, what they wanted to do. When you

833
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: talk about him coming here, I think he has a

834
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: very different skill set than a lot of the outside

835
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: linebackers the Cardinals have now, so I think he has

836
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: a pretty clearly defined role where third downs you definitely

837
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: want him on the field because he can get after quarterbacks.

838
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: He's not the same athletic type player as a Hassan

839
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: Reddick or Devon Kennard, So I think those two guys

840
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: make a lot of sense when you want to do

841
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: some more exotic things defensively. But now, if you're talking

842
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: about best pure pass rusher, Marcus Golden might be that

843
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: guy when he starts playing for the Cardinals because we've

844
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: seen what he can do in the past with this team.

845
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: So I feel like if you're in a clear pass

846
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: rushing situation, it makes a lot of sense to have

847
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: Marcus Golden on the field. It'll be interesting to see

848
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 1: how they do this and if they rotate a little

849
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: bit more, because let's face it, Hassan Reddick has exceeded

850
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: expectations out there, and so what do you do you

851
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: do you have? Is it Reddick and Golden? Is do

852
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: you take Canard off the field in certain situations? Do

853
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: you want Canard out there? And is Dennis Gardeck still

854
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: a potential person to put out there once in a while.

855
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: Probably not as much just because of his size, but

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Speaker 1: he's done a couple of things too, So I think

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Speaker 1: I think this, once you get Marcus Golden, you never

858
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: would have wanted to lose Chandler Jones. But if you

859
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: had to lose Chandler Jones and kind of had to

860
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: backfill some things, I think they're in a better situation

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00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: than anybody thought they could have been, given that they

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00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: could get Golden, given that Reddick has kind of shown

863
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Speaker 1: some things, given that Guardick has even shown a few things,

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Speaker 1: things that I don't think. I don't know if anybody

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Speaker 1: really counted on free Dennis Gardeck. That that's my new

866
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: hashtag around here. I mean, you still got to work

867
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Speaker 1: in Guardeck the barbarian on some third and lungs come on.

868
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: Because what offensive tackles always say, they always say, it's

869
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: much easier to go against a single pass rusher the

870
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: entire game. But if you're flipping sides and you gotta rotation,

871
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: and you got you know, Reddick out there, and then

872
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: you got Marcus Golden and you have Devon Knard and

873
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: here comes Gardak, who's so singular in his approach and

874
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: what he brings. I like it. I like it. I

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Speaker 1: also want the fact that that Marcus Golden, you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't. They don't just annoint a guy with the

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00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: nickname Junkyard Dog. You've got to earn the nickname Junkyard Dog.

878
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 1: And I like that aspect of what Marcus Golden brings

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00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: to this defense. Come on now, I mean, obviously, the

880
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: motor and the passion, I mean, all that stuff is

881
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: great to have, especially probably in a season when you

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00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: don't have that energy in the stadium and in the stands.

883
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: So I think that part of it is good. But

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Speaker 1: going back to the pass rush thing, I think Hassan

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00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: Reddick has just played so well that it's hard to

886
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not going to play full time, but

887
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: I think you got to get him out there a

888
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 1: lot with the what things he's shown, and I think

889
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: his ability to drop and to also rush the passer,

890
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: and I think he's been pretty decent against the run.

891
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: I just feel like, I mean, Gardek stepped in really well.

892
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: But to me, it feels like Golden, Reddick, and Kennard

893
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: would be a pretty good rotation at outside linebacker, provided

894
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: they're all healthy and playing well. That's okay. Paul Paul

895
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: wants to have Chris Streveler out there more often too,

896
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: so into that. That's right. That's the next podcast coming

897
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Speaker 1: off the by because I'm gonna leave it with this question.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, then, honor of Marcus Golden. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: rehash a question from a few years ago when Marcus

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Speaker 1: Golden was my answer to the following question, if you

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Speaker 1: had to walk into a biker bar and start something,

902
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: start talking some trash, which cardinal would you want on

903
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: your side to have your back as your personal protector?

904
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: And my answer back then was Marcus Golden. And you

905
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: know what, that's my answer right now. If I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: walk in and pop off in a biker bar, I

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Speaker 1: want Marcus Golden with me. Darren, who's your choice? Do

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00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: I have to go a current active roster, because I'll

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00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: be honest, I'm going I might go Adrian Wilson's that's

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00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: assuming he wouldn't look at me going I'm not protecting

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00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: you you, But Wilson wouldn't be a bad one. You know,

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00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: it's not often you go into the front office, actually,

913
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, you get your personal protector. So that that's

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00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: that's that's a real shout out. I compliment to Adrian Wilson.

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00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Kyle, what about you. I think I'll go

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Speaker 1: to Jordan Phillips. I like his uh, his temperament and

917
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: his size. I think he'd be a good guy on

918
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: my team. Our Jim Almajandro said Jordan Phillips as well.

919
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Speaker 1: My backup was j R. Sweezy. Actually, I like I

920
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: like Sweets. You know, he just comes in and I

921
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: just like the way if if he gives you the

922
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: same routine walking into the biker bar that he does

923
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Speaker 1: pregame where he starts banging his chest like he's prehistoric,

924
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: and he starts getting all going, I mean doing that,

925
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: that would be pretty intimidating. I will say my backup

926
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: would be fits because, Yeah, because if we get into

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Speaker 1: a bar and I get into one of those situations, Larry,

928
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Speaker 1: I'll talk us out of it, I have no doubt

929
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Speaker 1: in my mind, and we'll we'll all be on the

930
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: same page by the time it's all over. He'll he'll

931
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: know exactly what to say. He'll know what to say

932
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: or he'll know someone, yeah, who can get you out

933
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,959
Speaker 1: of your situation. He'll know, he'll explain his phone, He'll

934
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Speaker 1: be able to make a phone call to save your

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00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: high that's what will happen and that'll do it for

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Speaker 1: Cardinals underground