1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirkshin, I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshin, and Dad, 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: you're at spring training. I am in my basement. And 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: we ended up wearing the same exact quarter zip to 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: this episode that we got in the Little League World 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: Series last year when we were there with our friends 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: at Game Changer, And I mean, are we now that 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: you're my dad and you're my coworker. I feel like 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: our brains everything's just synced up together. 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I even have my shirt on correctly today 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: as opposed to backwards. 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: That's good. 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: This is very appropriate too, little guys with a Little 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: League World Series shirt on what to call a quarter zip? 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: Is that what you young people call this? Because I 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: what would you call it? 17 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly why. 18 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 2: I've never heard that until the last few years. We 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: just called it like a pullover or something like that. 20 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: Not the point. 21 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: The point is, you look, it looks great and this 22 00:00:58,800 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: was not planned. 23 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: We're both wearing Little League quarter zips. How about that? 24 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: And we'd have the same hairline if I wasn't wearing 25 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: my hat right now. Hence why I'm wearing this hat 26 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: because my hair is receding very much so. But on 27 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: another note, Dad, at the end of last week's episode, 28 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: we noted that there was going to be a big 29 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: announcement here on is this a great game or what? 30 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: And I can't wait any longer to be able to 31 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: say it right now, So here at is this a great. 32 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 4: Game or what? Population two full time employees. 33 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: We have paired up with our friends at the Foul 34 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: Territory Network to be a part of their amazing company 35 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: in order to continue to create great content for all 36 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: of you, members of our family and people who listen 37 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: to the show. We're really excited to be partnering with them. 38 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: And the most important thing to realize before we get 39 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: into the more details of Foul Territory Network is nothing's 40 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: going to change for you. Right wherever you're listening or 41 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: watching right now is going to be there for you 42 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: weekly and multiple times a week during the regular season. 43 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: So nothing changes for you. But as we've joked for 44 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: two whole years, we're going to have a little bit 45 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 1: more help on our hands in order to survive when 46 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: my wife has another baby this June, and if we're 47 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: in the hospital, Dad, you'll have somebody that can help 48 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: you get on a computer other than me. 49 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you will have extra help. 50 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: You're the one that does ninety nine percent of the 51 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: work on this show. And now when you don't have 52 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 2: time to do something, it looks like we'll have time. 53 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: And I'm thrilled because among the other people will be 54 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: meeting with there and joining. Mark Wiener is the guy 55 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: that reached out to us. Mark Wiener is my dear friend, 56 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: used to work at ESPN, was a producer there when 57 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: I first got there. We did all sorts of assignments 58 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: on the road, in studio, baseball Tonight, everything else. I 59 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 2: was there when he met his wife, Yolanda, and I 60 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: hope this is appropriate Yolanda's last name. And by the way, 61 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: Mark Wiener is captain of the all over Achiever team. 62 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: Marrying Yolanda nicks it's not even close, and she still does. 63 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: But she goes by Yo instead of Yolanda all the time, 64 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: and so when she got married, she became Yo Wiener, 65 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 2: which I just thought was the funniest name. I strongly 66 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: suggested she just keep her last day. 67 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 3: But it's great. 68 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: And Mark, of course is a big baseball fan, really 69 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: truly understands the game, loves the Yankees, and the middle 70 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: name of one of his sons is Maddingly after Don Man. 71 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 5: We love that, right, It's so perfect. 72 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: And I talked to Mark last week and he told me, Dad, 73 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: you know they were in spring training the Foul Territory 74 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: Show and the network we're out there. And he told me, 75 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: looking back at your days together at ESPN, that he 76 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: remembers before he had children, you would say, Okay, I've 77 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: got to I got to fly back because Kelly has 78 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: a basketball game too, and I got to get Jeffrey 79 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 1: off to school on Wednesday, and I will be back 80 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon. And he remembers thinking to himself, this guy 81 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: is crazy. But he said, now that he is a father, 82 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: he understands why you were doing these types of things 83 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: because it's hard to leave your kids. And it speaks 84 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: volumes dad to the dad that you are and what 85 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: this show is all about, right, and that we now 86 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: that you can escape by doing a show with your son. 87 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: You don't feel as bad being away from your kids. 88 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, A good, good point, jeff And when McKinley Hope 89 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: is in the first you know, first time she does 90 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: ballet or or does you know something on stage you're 91 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna figure out how to get home for 92 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: that and then go right back to what you were doing. 93 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: This is what This is what parents do. This is 94 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: what dads do. This is what Mark Weeder does for 95 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,119 Speaker 2: his kids. This is the way it works. 96 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: It's all good. 97 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, So thank you to Mark. Thank you to Scott 98 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: Braun for helping us out with this transition. Thank you 99 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: to Jeremy Meyer who's become a friend of mine at 100 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Network as well because he's been helping 101 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: me with this transition. And again we say, this is 102 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: very exciting news for the podcast, but the most important 103 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: thing is nothing is changing for you. If only only 104 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: thing that'll change is that maybe there'll be more members 105 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: of the family finding out about this podcast, because that 106 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: when you're down in spring training, half the people are 107 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: saying love the pod, and the other people are saying, 108 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: didn't know. 109 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 5: You had a pod. 110 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 111 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 5: Well, hopefully we run in the socials here right. 112 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: Well, the people we do have Jeff listening and reacting 113 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: to the show. 114 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: It's a pretty good group. 115 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: And last week, you know, we made the point that 116 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: Eddie Murray, it's the all time leader in Sacrifice Flies 117 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: for a career, yet never led the league in sacrifice 118 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: flies in any season. 119 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 3: So we threw it out to our listeners and our viewers. 120 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: We gave them a homework assignment, and Todd Addington and 121 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: Brian Dial were just among two that came up with 122 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: All Famer. Eddie Collins had five hundred and twelve sacrifice bunts. 123 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: I think that's like. 124 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: Over I know, it's over one hundred more than anyone 125 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: else ever had, yet he never led the league in 126 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: sacrifice bunts in any season. 127 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 3: So and Joe Wilke. 128 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: Wilck had a couple of these also, So Jim. We 129 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: have some really clever people that listen to our show 130 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: email us and I just hope they keep it up 131 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: because we learn from them, hopefully like they learn from us. 132 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt about it. 133 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 1: We gave them a homework assignment and they came through 134 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: and we really appreciate that. With that being said, if 135 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: you don't know and you're listening somewhere, you can always 136 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: watch the full show on YouTube. Every episode since the 137 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: beginning of this show back two years ago. You can 138 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: actually watch on YouTube. Make sure to subscribe there. We 139 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: would love for you to be a part of the 140 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: family face to face, and you can also follow us 141 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: on Facebook and in Instagram at Great Game or What. 142 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: We would love to have you a part of those, 143 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, those communities as well. It's really important. Now, Dad, 144 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: I just got to kind of close this out on 145 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,559 Speaker 1: the show we've been talking. 146 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 4: Did you did the all shed team for me? 147 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: Where? 148 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 5: What'd you do the all the. 149 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: All Yeah, it was like the all building kind of team, 150 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: all structure team. 151 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: And shed long was the second basement. 152 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: So and after I can say, I think eight weeks 153 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: of delays because of the snow, my shed has been delivered, 154 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: even though I'm in the middle of an office that's 155 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: being reconstructed right now in our new basement. And I'll 156 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: post a photo hence all of the social media as 157 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: I mentioned, I'll post a photo of what the setup 158 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: is currently. I'll just tell you it involves a high chair. 159 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: That's all I can say. Follow us at Great Game 160 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: or What, and I'll pop the image up right here 161 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: on our YouTube as well, so you can go to 162 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: the YouTube and watch the video of seeing exactly what 163 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do here whilst my office is under 164 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: wrap and under plastic with with drywall pieces. So we're 165 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: working on that, Dad, but we're we're working with what 166 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: we can and we're working with our friends at Foul 167 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: Territory Network, which is incredible. 168 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 4: Let's go Dad to takeaways. 169 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: Let's stop talking about my situation in my shed and 170 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: my construction. Let's talk about where you are, in a 171 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: much warmer situation than. 172 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in Florida. 173 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: I was in Arizona for three days. And I'm ashamed 174 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: to say this, Jeff, but on last Saturday, I was 175 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 2: remarking when I was in Mesa for a game with 176 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: the with the A's the A's we're playing the Giants. 177 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: I said, God, it's just too hot out here. So here, 178 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 2: I've been complaining for four months that's freezing cold wherever 179 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: I go. And then I went to a place that 180 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: it's too hot. It was great in Arizona. I had 181 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: the best time. I learned so many things, which is 182 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: what we're trying to do here. Spring training is a 183 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: crucial time. And I went to see Tito Francona, the 184 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 2: Reds manager, and I always just feel better after talking 185 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: to Tito in spring training. He makes everybody feel like 186 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: they're the most important person in the world. Every time 187 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: you talk to him, you realize, you recognize again how 188 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 2: fortunate you are to be covering major League baseball. He's 189 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 2: still doing it after all these years. 190 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: And I got such a kick out of this. 191 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: I'm not sure why, but you know, he had Brent 192 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 2: Suiter on his team last year, left handed pitcher, and 193 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: Brent Suter is one of the smartest guys in the 194 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 2: game and is one of the most talented people in 195 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: the game because he can do impersonations. I told you 196 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: he does the greatest Jim Carrey in the world. Well 197 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: apparently he does the greatest Tito Francona in the world. Also, 198 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: And the game that I went to when they play 199 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: the Angels, Brent Suter was starting for the Angels. So 200 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: it came up and the guys in the room asked Tito, like, 201 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 2: how good is the impersonation and he said something like, well, it's. 202 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: Really good, he said. 203 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: Last year in spring training, Brent Suiter would just come 204 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 2: in to Tito's office and just sit and talk to 205 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: him for five ten minutes here and there. And he 206 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: did it like three or four times during spring training. 207 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: And Tito now realizes as he goes, I know why 208 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: he was in there. He was in there to figure 209 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 2: out my mannerisms. He wanted to talk to me more. 210 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 5: He was studying. 211 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: He was studying my voice, my mannerisms, all that stuff. 212 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: So that's Brent Suitor for you, and that's Tito. And 213 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: after I left the Reds that day, I felt even 214 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: better about where I was because Tito Francona like made 215 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 2: it clear, Hey, you're in spring training, let's go. 216 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 3: And that's the way I feel. 217 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: You know, I missed the day's dad of you and 218 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: Terry Francona in spring training whilst players are doing impersonations 219 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:49,119 Speaker 1: of both. 220 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 5: You and him. 221 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: The clips of Elliott Johnson doing Tim Kirkshon and Jonathan 222 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: Papplebond doing Tito Francona Automatic Classics Dad, And I know you, 223 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: I know your flattered imitation is the greatest form of 224 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: flattery and you don't love talking about yourself on this show. 225 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: But I have to say those those are some of 226 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: my favorite clips on the Internet to this date. 227 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: Right, well, Jperre and Cebe was the first one that 228 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: did me and Tito. 229 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: I'm not going to tell the. 230 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: Story again, was the one that ambushed me with that 231 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: impersonation on National TV. So I'm so glad to see 232 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: Tito that he's back and he's healthy and everything's okay. 233 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: By the way, his general manager is Nick Kroll, which 234 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: I guess I'm the last guy to figure this out, 235 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: but I learned this spring training that he used to 236 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: be a groundskeeper in spring training, the general manager of 237 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: the Rents, and I met one of the groundskeepers who 238 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: used to work with him, and he remembers calling Nick, 239 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: you know this many years ago and saying, Hey, you 240 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: want to come over. We'll go out and get a beer. 241 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: And Nick said, no, I can't. I'm studying. I'm going 242 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: to be a general manager. So at the time he 243 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 2: was a groundskeeper and he said, I'm studying to be 244 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: a general manager. And then he not only made it 245 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: to be a general manager, he's a general manager of 246 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: a playoff team last year, the Cincinnati Red. It's pretty cool. 247 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: Well, Dad, that's like the Burger king cash Sheer becoming 248 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: the CEO. I mean, seriously, you've got to start somewhere. 249 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: Climb up that ladder. I love that story. 250 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great, right, right, Okay, Jeff, the ABS, the 251 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: automated ball strike system has gone pretty well from what 252 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: I can see. You know, it's going to be instituted 253 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: this year in regular Major league games, and I talked 254 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: to several managers about it. Most of them seem to 255 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: think that it's working. It's certainly not perfect. There are 256 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: bugs to work out. I'm still a little worried about it. 257 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: But some of the things I've gathered from the people 258 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: that I talked to is the strike zone is really 259 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: small anyway, and it's going to get even smaller because 260 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: you know, the great pitchers, the Greg Maddox's of the world, 261 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: used to get a pitch a half inch off the 262 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: late and because the umpire missed it, because it's easy 263 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: to miss a pitch by half an inch, but Maddox 264 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 2: would then say they can get half an inch. Then 265 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: he would go to an inch, and then three inches, 266 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: and then five inches, and he. 267 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 3: Would keep getting these pitches. 268 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: Well, that's not going to happen anymore with an ABS system, 269 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: because there are challenges involved. And one manager told me 270 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: that he thinks the strikeout rate is going to go 271 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: down because hitters are not going to get called out 272 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: on pitches that are out of the strike zone. So 273 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: let's hope that's that's cause. And another manager told me 274 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: it's really gonna it's really going to help the short guys. 275 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: The jose L two Bays of the world are really 276 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: going to get helped. And he said, you watch. You 277 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: know they don't call the high strike very often, or 278 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: the high strike isn't a strike really, and the short 279 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: guys are going to be the ones that are going 280 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 2: to benefit more from this rule than anything else. So 281 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: I told the manager boy I would be great, and 282 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 2: he said, yeah, you'd be the best hitter in the 283 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 2: league because you be you'd be the smallest hitter of 284 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: the league. 285 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: Yes, well, dad, this is this is the first time 286 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: in any major sport history I would say that players 287 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: actually want to be listed as their actual height. 288 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 3: Right. 289 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: In fact, one of the managers told me that he 290 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: has a guy on his team of six feet tall 291 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: and he showed up this spring and now he's five eleven. 292 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: So he purposely made himself an inch shorter because it 293 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: might help him. 294 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: In the ABF system. That is fascinating. 295 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: Also, Jeff will make this quick because it doesn't fit 296 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: with our show. But I checked on the labor situation 297 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: with a couple of people, and it looks as bad. 298 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: As I thought it looked. 299 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: And I talked to someone who's pretty close to the negotiations, 300 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: and he told me the two sides are further apart 301 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: right now that you know, with ten months to go 302 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: before December the first, and then he's ever seen it. 303 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: And that was discouraging to me, because again, I covered 304 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: the eighty one strike, Jeff, I've covered them all since, 305 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: and to be this guy said this is as far 306 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: apart we've been at this sort of date. 307 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: Does that discourage you a little bit? 308 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 5: Massively? 309 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: It really does scare me, Dad, And you're not the 310 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: first person, and obviously you're a trusted journalist in our sport, 311 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: and you're not the first person I've heard from. 312 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 5: That is saying this. 313 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 4: So I hope and I pray. 314 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: I know both reasons from both sides as to what's 315 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: going on, but I hope and pray they can find 316 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: some middle ground. Because listen, what is our podcast going 317 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: to do? 318 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 4: What are we gonna review movies? 319 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? What are we gonna talk to Gerlin country music? 320 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: We're in big trouble if there's no baseball next year. 321 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: So we'll figure this out, Jeff. We're gonna keep it. 322 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: You know what we could do, Dad, We could just 323 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: review every concert you've been to. That would take about 324 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: three minutes. Yeah, I can tell you, like, all right, 325 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: Yellow Card circ God two thousand and four. There's that, 326 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: and what were the other to Kenny Chesney in two 327 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: thousand and nine. 328 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 4: And Dan Fogelberg, Dan Fogelberg and in college what. 329 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: That was nineteen seventy seven? 330 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 4: Were you blasted for the show or do you remember it? 331 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: I remember it well, and it was a date. I 332 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: had a date and I doubled with guy in from 333 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: our dorm. They did not go well, or did any 334 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: other day? 335 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 3: Didn't go? Eh? 336 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 5: How did his date go good? 337 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: His always went well? Mine always went poorly. That's okay, 338 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: it's not important, all. 339 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: Right, Jeff. 340 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 2: Also, the only problem, well, there are no problems about 341 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: going to spring training, but right now teams have lost 342 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: all their WBC players, and I have to always get 343 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: through my mind. Okay, I'm going to see the Yankees. 344 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: I went to see the Yankees Tuesday. We're taping this 345 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: on Monday. The Yankees have like eleven guys at the WBC. 346 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: So when you go in there saying, hey, I'm just 347 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: gonna go check in with this guy or this guy, 348 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: and you realize nobody's here they are all gone to 349 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: the WBC. So the WBC is a great event, Jeff, 350 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: but it does take away from the everyday players who 351 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: are not in the in the WBC. You can go 352 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: to a spring training game and they're gonna be even 353 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 2: fewer stars there because most of them are going to 354 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: be in the WBC. 355 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 3: I'm all in favor of the trade off like that. 356 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 2: And speaking of the WBC, I talked to a manager 357 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: who told me, well, the Japanese are really great again 358 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: because they're not so worried about overworking their players in 359 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: the WBC and therefore having it affect them on the 360 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: major league team. Now, the major league teams are always 361 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: concerned about this, but the Japanese are here to win. 362 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 2: They won the last time and they're here to win again. 363 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 2: So let's keep our eye on show, Hey, Otani and ya, 364 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: i'm Amoto and the rest of the group, because they 365 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: are here to win. 366 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 4: Well, aside from the WBC, Dad, any more takeaways? 367 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw the Dodgers, Jeff, and we all know 368 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: that they're absolutely loaded. And I'm certainly not going to 369 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 2: defend the Dodgers. But I've told you before, Jeff, the 370 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 2: Dodgers are as well run as any organization out there. 371 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 2: Granted they have more resources, they can make mistakes and 372 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 2: make up for it with all the money that they have, 373 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: but people, I'm not sure everyone understands how beautifully run 374 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: that organization is. And it starts with Andrew Freeman, who's 375 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: the president of Baseball Operations. And I talked to one 376 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 2: of his colleagues the other day and he said, it's 377 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: amazing that Andrew will sit in on a high level 378 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: meeting about baseball. What I mean about this is how 379 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: we're going to deal with this is what we're going 380 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 2: to do with our you know, our secondary lead this year, 381 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: or this is how we're going to attack sacrifice bumps 382 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 2: or pitchouts or whatever. And the whole meeting will go 383 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: by and Andrew Freeman, whose boss might not say a 384 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: word during the whole thing, but he's he wants to hear, 385 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 2: I'm told from all of his people. He wants to 386 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: make sure that everyone in the room has a voice. 387 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: He's gonna make the final decision. He's already thought through 388 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: all of this before the meeting even starts. 389 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: But it's very interesting. 390 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 2: This guy made a very clear point that this is 391 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: what leadership is all about is that you let everyone 392 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: else in the room have something to say because maybe 393 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: they'll say something you didn't know. But I thought that 394 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 2: was pretty interesting. And do you agree that's what great 395 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 2: leaders do. 396 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Dad, I think it's so easy to just say, oh, 397 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: here are the Dodgers again with all the money, But 398 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: that money doesn't go very far if you don't have 399 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: the right leadership behind it. So I think it's a 400 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: really good breakdown, dad, to kind of see how it 401 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: works on the back end, because we've seen teams with 402 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: a lot of money not perform well. I won't name names, 403 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: but it really takes good leadership and money sometimes to 404 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: make a championship team. 405 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: Right. I went to see the Dodgers. 406 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: I'm walking through the broadcast area there and there's a 407 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: room open, and there's a guy sitting in there all 408 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: by himself, and I look in. It's Tony Larusen. So 409 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: I go and sit next to Tony Larussen, age eighty 410 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 2: one for thirty minutes. Tony's one of my favorite people 411 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 2: over the years that covered him a million years with 412 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: the cart with the Cardinals of course, and the A's 413 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 2: and everything else he is And here he is, eighty 414 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: one years old. 415 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 3: He's a special advisor for the White Sox, goes to 416 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 3: a million games. 417 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: They send him out to do things all the time, 418 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: and he is he He yelled a couple times during 419 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: the game, yelled out loud angrily, and I had to 420 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: look at him and say, Tony what, and he goes. 421 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: They just tie the score four to four. The Dodgers 422 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: tied the White Sox in that game four to four 423 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: in the fifth inning, and Tony was really upset that 424 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 2: his team was now tied. They weren't ahead in an 425 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: exhibition game and they were in the fifth inning. It 426 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: just goes to show you again how intense Tony Larusa 427 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 2: is about everything. Jeff, I can't tell you how many 428 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: times I would go up to Tony in my career 429 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: and just say Tony, how are you? And he would say, well, 430 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 2: i'll tell you in three and a half hours, because 431 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 2: that's when the game was over. That's how Tony's doing. 432 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 2: If they win, then I'll be doing fine. If they lose, 433 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: then he won't. 434 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 3: Be doing fine. 435 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 2: So I had a great chat with Tony Larusa that 436 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 2: was really fun. I also, Jeff saw the Red Sox 437 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: and this is one of my great failings. Jeff, When 438 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: I go to spring training, I get caught up in 439 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 2: the enthusiasm of a team. But I left the Red 440 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: Sox thinking that they're better than I thought they were. 441 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 2: I thought they were improved with their offseason. They made 442 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 2: the playoffs last year. But now they've got Roman Anthony Back. 443 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: They've got a really good starting rotation with your boy 444 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 2: Ranger Suarez in it, and with Garrett Crochet at the top. 445 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: They have three quality left handed starting pitchers. Their bullpens 446 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 2: a little thin, but with Anthony Back and Marcello Meyer's 447 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: going to play second base, and Trevor Story if they 448 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 2: can keep him healthy, and you know william or Bray, 449 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: who's gonna hit thirty homers if he's healthy. So I 450 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: left thinking, you know, I'm not saying they're going to 451 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: beat the Blue Jays and Yankees for sure and win 452 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 2: the division. But I liked what I saw and heard 453 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: from the Red Sox yesterday in Duneed. 454 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's really great. And I think if 455 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: I want to make sure everybody knows when we talk 456 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: spring training, if you haven't gone and seen your team 457 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: in spring training, you're missing out because whether you're in 458 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: dun Eden or Clearwater or Scottsdale, wherever it might be, 459 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: it is magical. And Dad, I have so much jealousy 460 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 1: and my only dream for this darn show of ours 461 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: is to do a show from spring training. I don't 462 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: care what park we're at. I just want to be 463 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: down there. I just want to see the people. When 464 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: Alex Coorr is walking around and just says, hey, Timmy, 465 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: and you guys talk, these are the things that only 466 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: really happened at spring training, Dad, And I'm sure, and 467 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to put you. 468 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 4: On the spot, but you can speak to it. With 469 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 4: the way teams have changed. 470 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: Over the years, with everything a lot more corporate, right, 471 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: Managers just aren't popping around, players aren't taking VP during 472 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: the regular season like they used to and sign in 473 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: autographs and hanging with the kids. But spring training still 474 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: has that appeal right right. 475 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: There is still time, Jeff to you know, as we 476 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 2: talked about two weeks ago, things happened in spring training 477 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 2: that just don't happen during the regular season. I believe 478 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 2: it was one of our great listeners. John Woodward wrote 479 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: in that he went to he was in there. He 480 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: lives I guess he lives in Arizona and he was 481 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: driving past I think it was a Chick fil A 482 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: and there were two players from the Mariners who were 483 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: in full uniform and they were in a golf cart 484 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: and they were drive through the. 485 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 3: Checkout window at the Chick fil A. 486 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: And so just when we were saying, only in baseball, 487 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: I mean only in spring training can things happen. Trust me, 488 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: that's not happening in the regular season in Seattle. So 489 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: he was listening to our podcast as we were explaining, 490 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: you know, you know, Jeremy Guthrie rode his bike in 491 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: full uniform to a game with his glove on his handlebars. 492 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 2: As we're talking about that, John Woodward is driving and 493 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: he sees two Seattle Mariners full uniform in a golf 494 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 2: cart picking up food from Chick fil A. 495 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 3: Is that not beautiful or what? 496 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 4: It's the most beautiful thing. 497 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: And it's the most beautiful waffle fry I've ever had 498 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: as well, not an ad but I'm telling you, nothing 499 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: can beat those fries with some Chick fil A sauce? 500 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 5: Are you kidding me? 501 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 3: It's pretty good? Okay. 502 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 2: And then there's our pal Bill Chuck from Billy Ball, 503 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: who does loven stack that is just great. His baseball 504 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: knowledge is unparalleled. He is a really fun and hilarious guy. 505 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: You really need to read what he writes on a 506 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 2: daily basis. 507 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 4: And you using substack in a sentence that quickly and 508 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 4: that smoothly. I'm extremely impressed with you, Dad, right. 509 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: A complete sentence substack. 510 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: I learned that phrase about a month ago, and I've 511 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 2: used it about five times since. So Bill Chuck sends 512 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: me this and says, I bet you've gotten this from 513 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: at least a dozen people. Well, I didn't get it 514 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: from anybody except for him, because only he can see 515 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 2: things like this. But the Brewers used a picture named 516 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 2: Drew Rahm rom and against the White Sox used a 517 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: hitter named Drew Romo. So we had a Drew ram 518 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 2: against a Drew Romo. That would qualify as a quirk gin. 519 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: But we don't have them in spring training, but we 520 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: will once the season starts. I can't wait for that 521 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 2: because that's my favorite part of every podcast that we do, 522 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: the quirky, funny, weirdo things that happen all the time. 523 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: So thank you for that, Bill Chuck. And last thing, 524 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: Jeff Bruce Framing died the other day. He umpired the 525 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: third most games in Major League history, behind Joe West 526 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 2: and Bill Clem. Bruce Freming was one of my favorite 527 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: people umpires that I was ever around. He had a 528 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: great sense of humor and never took himself too seriously, 529 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 2: and he was in the middle of so many amazing 530 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 2: moments in baseball history. Just go google him. We don't 531 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,239 Speaker 2: have time to go over all of them here, but 532 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: I'll never forget. In the eighty six All Star Game, 533 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: Jeff he was working the plate. Roger Clemens comes to 534 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 2: the plate for the American League batting in the All 535 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: Star Game, and he's facing Dwight Gooden, who's throwing, you know, 536 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 2: ninety seven miles now with a riding fastball. 537 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 3: That's just ridiculous. 538 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: And Clemens hadn't faced anybody since a real pitcher since 539 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: high school because of the d ah. 540 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 3: So the first pitch. 541 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 2: Comes in and Roger looks at it, ninety seven rioting fastball, 542 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 2: and he looks at Bruce Freming and goes, Bruce, do 543 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: I throw that hard? And Bruce Freming says, yes, Roger, 544 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: you throw that hard. And Roger went wow, And that 545 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 2: was an epiphanty for him that nobody can hit that pitch. 546 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: If it's thrown that hard, I know I can't anymore, 547 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: he said, but major league hit it. So that's when 548 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: Roger Clements really started throwing his fastball more often. After 549 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 2: facing Dwight Gooden and Bruce Freming was the homeplate umpire 550 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 2: in that game. Rest in peace, Bruce, one of the 551 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: best umpires of all time. 552 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 4: On this date in baseball history, Dad, what do you 553 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 4: have for us? 554 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 555 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: On this date nineteen sixty, pitcher Chuck Carey was born, 556 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 2: and he pitched a little for the Yankees and White 557 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 2: Sox a few others, and he didn't pitch for a 558 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: long time, but I used this note for Sports Illustrated 559 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: a long time ago. I think just when he pitched 560 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 2: for the Yankees, he would leave a ticket for every 561 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 2: game for Joe Jackson, not the Joe Shoeless Joe Jackson, 562 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: but for Joe Jackson, the songwriter the brit I think 563 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: he's a British singer. I don't think Joe Jackson ever 564 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: showed up to get the ticket, but it was part 565 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 2: of Chuck Carrey's pregame. I'm leaving a ticket for Joe 566 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: Jackson just in case he comes to our game today. 567 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 3: How about that. 568 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: It's like it's like Cornbread Maxwell of the formerly of 569 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: the Celtics, he used to go into the airport and 570 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: every time he went to the airport, he would he 571 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 2: would page Dolph Shase because he loved that. Dolph Shase, 572 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: of course was a great, great college basketball player, a 573 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 2: really good NBA player, And every time Cedric Maxwell would 574 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 2: go into the airport, he would page Dolph Shase. And 575 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: one time Dolph Shase was actually in the airport and 576 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: he picked up the phone and then I think Cornbread 577 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: just kind of hug up the focus. He didn't know 578 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: what to say. 579 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 4: Oh God, so much shot in the dark and it 580 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 4: worked out that one time. 581 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: Right. 582 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 3: A couple other things. 583 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 2: Matt Trenor, former catcher, was born on this date in 584 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six, and I've always got a kick out 585 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: of this, Jeff. He was part of a click of 586 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: backup catchers. They all kind of had this little camaraderie 587 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: between them because they all had the same job. Every 588 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 2: spring they go to spring training trying to make another team. 589 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: And Quirky Miller, what a perfect name for a backup 590 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: catcher told me once that he saw Matt Trainer and 591 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: they just looked at each other. They're on opposing teams, 592 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: and he said, you know, still hanging in there. And 593 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: Matt Trainer said, like, here we go again. We're trying 594 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: to make another club. And there's a special bond, a 595 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 2: special fellowship between career backup catchers. 596 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 3: I've always loved them. That's great. 597 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: And on this date in twenty twenty four, Jeff ed 598 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 2: Ott died, and Odd was one of the really tough 599 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: guy catchers, a pretty darn good player in his day, 600 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: a great wrestler in high school. So ed Ott died, 601 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: and in honor of him, even though I'm really fudging 602 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: it here, I'm going to test you on the team 603 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: tim for this week. 604 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 3: Jeff, what is today's date? 605 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: Today's date is March the third, three three three. Oh okay, 606 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: all right, now, remember last year on April the fourth, 607 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 1: we did the all four by four Teamjan Soto, Babe, Ruth, 608 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: Pete Rose, you understand. So poor pop Up flew from 609 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: Maryland to Phoenix the other day. 610 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: I was on a plane for like five hours. So 611 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: what do you think I did to pass the time? 612 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: I came up with the all three three three te Jeff. 613 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: That was way harder and It wasn't a very good team, 614 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: but it was way harder than the four by four. 615 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 3: But I kind of came up with it. You want 616 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 3: to hear it. 617 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 5: This is the team? Is corn? 618 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 4: It no relation to ed aforementioned? 619 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right now, I'm going to spoil everything Ed. 620 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 2: I couldn't find a catcher. I couldn't find a catcher, 621 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 2: So we're going to use Ed Odd because this is 622 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: we're recognizing him here as a real tough guy. And 623 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: it's a loss. It was a loss for baseball when 624 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: we lost ed Od. But yes, Lee May is our 625 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 2: first baseman. H Lee May is the first player that 626 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: I he was good hitter. Jeff hit a bunch of homers. 627 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: Led the league in RBIs nineteen seventy six with the Orioles. 628 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 3: He's the first player I've ever seen. 629 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 2: Who broke a bat without making contact with ball, meaning 630 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: he checked his swing and his hands and wrists were 631 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 2: so strong that the torque he used he snapped the 632 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: bat in half without hitting it. That's how strong Lee 633 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 2: May was. And let's see Jeff, how well how good 634 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: your memory is? What is Tony Perez's daddy's dad's nickname? 635 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame? 636 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, sorry, what is Eduardo Perez as our dear friend. 637 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: What's his dad? 638 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 3: Tony's nickname wasn't wasn't he big dog? Doggie doggy dog right? 639 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 3: And he got that nickname for two reasons. 640 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 2: Number one, everybody loved Tony Perez and a man a 641 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 2: dog is man's best friend. So that's number one. And 642 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: Lee May, the afore mentioned le May also called him 643 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: Doggie because he said when they would go out to 644 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: dinner and Tony Perez would order a steak, he would 645 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 2: eat it with his hands at the end, all the 646 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: way down to the boat. And that's why he called 647 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: him doggie, because he ate a steak like a dog 648 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: would eat a steak. Eduardo Perez told us that story 649 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: a year ago. Finally I asked him, why do they 650 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 2: call your dad Doggie? 651 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 3: And that's it. So Lee May is our first baseman. 652 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 3: Jim Cox is our second baseman. Cox of course, third. 653 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 2: Basement of course, Ron Say one of the great Dodger 654 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: nicknamed the Penguin. And I can never explain this, but 655 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: the late great Kirby Pucket. For some reason in the eighties, 656 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: when I would be at a lot of the gay 657 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 2: eighties and nineties with twins who were really good. He 658 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: used to call me ron Say. Every time I'd show up, 659 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: he goes, hey, Ron, say, how you doing. He called 660 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 2: me ron Say because Ron Say was short, and of course. 661 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 3: So am I. 662 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 2: But that's the end of the comparison between me and 663 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: ron Say. He weighed like he weighed like two hundred 664 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 2: pounds and was really strong and was a major league player. 665 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: But every time I walk in the clubhouse, Kirby walk 666 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: by and go hey, Ron say, how you do it? 667 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 2: So sure didn't fit all right, I was looking for 668 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: a shortstop. I've never heard of this guy, but. 669 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 3: I love his name. His name is dud du d Lee. 670 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: He played shortstop in the twenties, I think partly for 671 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: the Red Sox. 672 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 3: Dud Lee. 673 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he would also make your all unfortunate names team right, 674 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: Bailey Walter. 675 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 4: Right, right, right, guys, I mean he's a dud out there. 676 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: Right right, dud Lee right, Okay. Mel Ott is one 677 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,479 Speaker 2: of our outfielders. This inspired me to do that because 678 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 2: Melott is a Hall of Fame player. And by the way, 679 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: Melott hit the most home runs in one ballpark of 680 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 2: any player in Major League five hundred and whatever eleven 681 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 2: home runs He had three hundred and twenty three of 682 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 2: them at the Polo Grounds, and nobody has ever hit 683 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 2: that many home runs in one ballpark, like Hank Aaron, 684 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 2: for instance, played in Milwaukee and Atlanta, so he had 685 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 2: to mix him up. Willie Mays played at the Polo 686 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: Grounds in a Candlestick park, and you know, Barry Bonds 687 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 2: played in Pittsburgh and all this other stuff. But Melott 688 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 2: has the record for the most homers, three hundred and 689 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 2: twenty three in one. 690 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 3: Ballpark, the Polo Grounds, all right. 691 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 2: I played two other guys out of position. Joe liss Ls, 692 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: mostly a first base, played some outfield for sure. One 693 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 2: of my favorites Joe Foy Foy, also mostly a third baseman, 694 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 2: but he played outfield and infield all over the place. 695 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 2: And he was traded in nineteen sixty nine from the 696 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 2: Royals to the Mets, and that's how the Royals got 697 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 2: Amos Otis, who became one of the better Royals of 698 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 2: all time, in a trade for Joe Foy. Our pitchers, 699 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 2: I have three of them, Jay Frye, Fry, Ron Law Law, 700 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 2: and I finally one I'll never forget this, Jim Ray, 701 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 2: who I remember pitching for the Astros, and these are 702 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: the things you learn when you hang out with the 703 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 2: Doug Raiders of the world. He was the manager of 704 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 2: the Rangers eighty three eighty four, and he told me 705 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 2: once when he was Jim Ray's teammate with the Astros. 706 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 2: This is in the sixties, early seventies, Jim Ray, Doug 707 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 2: Raider told me would go to sleep at his hotel 708 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 2: room in New York and his door was wide open. 709 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: But when he goes to sleep in New York, I mean, 710 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 2: who would. 711 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 3: Do that, Jim Ray. 712 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 4: That's like the skin That's like my deepest fear. 713 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: When I was moving dad from Cleveland, Ohio to Las 714 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: Vegas for my second radio job, I don't know if 715 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: I've ever told you this. 716 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 5: I went. 717 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: I had to stay at a hotel the night before 718 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: my big flight because I no longer had a bed 719 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: in my apartment. So I stayed in the hotel and 720 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,479 Speaker 1: I dropped all my stuff off, and I went out 721 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: to the bar to see some of my friends before 722 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: I left the city that. 723 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 4: You know, was my first radio job. 724 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: When I came back, it was snowing like crazy in Cleveland, Ohio. 725 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: My motel door was open, so when I got back 726 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: to my hotel, dropped off by a friend. 727 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 4: I walk over to my. 728 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: Door and it is open in a snow storm. And 729 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: here I'm thinking, Okay, there's going to be a homeless 730 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: person living in there trying to keep warm, or I'm 731 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: about to get murdered, or I forgot to close the 732 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: door properly. Now, obviously, in those moments, you never think 733 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: that the most logical response. But I was so tired 734 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: and so cold, I said, you know what, I'm just 735 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: gonna see what's going on. 736 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 5: I'm going in, right, I'm going in. 737 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 4: And ultimately it was the ladder. 738 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: I forgot to close the door all the way and 739 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: it didn't latch in boom pal and there was a 740 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: snow in my hotel room and it was freezing cold. 741 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 4: But ultimately I ended up being Okay, thank goodness. 742 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 2: Thank goodness for that, Jeff. Okay, so that's my all 743 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 2: three by three team. I was proud of that, Jeff. 744 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 2: It took me five hours on an airplane to come 745 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 2: up with that team. It's not, like I said, it's 746 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 2: not a very good team, but to find a player 747 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 2: at each position was challenging, to say the least. 748 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: And if I taught you how to watch a show 749 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,959 Speaker 1: on Netflix on your phone. We wouldn't be getting these 750 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: Genius team tims. So I'm going to keep up with 751 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: not showing you how to download a podcast either, because 752 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: this is where the great content comes out, is when 753 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: you're on a plane. 754 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 2: Right, Still struggle on the plane, Jeff, with that Wi 755 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 2: Fi on American airlines, Still have a little trouble with that. 756 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 2: You're gonna have We're gonna have to take a flight together, 757 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 2: and you're gonna have to show me how to do 758 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 2: that for. 759 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: No reason other than using the Wi Fi. We'll just 760 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: get on a return flight thirty minutes later, we'll have 761 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: dinner in the in the North Carol or in the 762 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: Raleigh airport or. 763 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 5: Something, and we'll we'll turn around and come back. 764 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 2: All right, Okay, now what are we finishing with here, Jeff? Oh, 765 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 2: I meant to tell you. I told you I left 766 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 2: I left home for this trip without going without going 767 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 2: to the bathroom. Well, I went to the bathroom, I 768 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 2: just didn't go to the bathroom downstairs with the three 769 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 2: cards in the bathroom, so I had you just reach 770 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 2: in and pull out some cards. 771 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 3: So what do we what do we got this week? 772 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: Well, Dad, I pulled out a box, a banker box 773 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: that says Jeffrey's Baseball cards. And within this box that 774 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: I've got quite the collection, mind you, that of which 775 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: I still need to go through in order to continue 776 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: to fund my wife's dreams of redoing this new house. 777 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: If I could sell a couple of these cards for 778 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 1: some money, maybe we could, you know, stay above, stay 779 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 1: in the in the in the black, if you will. 780 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: But so I have a box full of cards, and 781 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: I just pulled three random cards out, So we're going 782 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: to see how this goes. 783 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 3: Okay, all right? 784 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: The first one is Roberto Alomar. Interestingly a Diamondbacks card, 785 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: but he's wearing a white Sox uniform as you can 786 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: see from our video here. 787 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 3: Wow, that doesn't make any sense, all. 788 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 2: Right, Well, Roberto Alomar is one of the great second 789 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 2: basemen of all time and one of the great defensive 790 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 2: second basement I've ever seen, and I'll never forget it. 791 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 2: When he signed with the Orioles big contract, I went 792 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 2: to Porto Rico Sports Illustrated to write a story on 793 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 2: Roberto Alomar. So we go to a TGI Fridays for lunch, 794 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 2: and he's dressed in a sweatsuit. He looks very athletic 795 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 2: in a sweatsuit. He's not dressed like So we eat lunch, 796 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 2: we come out of the TGI Fridays and a lady 797 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 2: comes up to him and hands him her valet parking 798 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 2: ticket and says, could you go get my car? So 799 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 2: she thought Roberto Alabar, who just signed this ridiculously expensive 800 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 2: deal at least at the time to play for the Orioles. 801 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 3: And he just. 802 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 2: Chuckled and said, ma'am, I'm not the valet guy. And 803 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 2: then he whispered to me and he said, I could 804 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 2: buy this entire chain of restaurants now. So I have 805 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 2: a million on the field stories from Roberto Alamar. But 806 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 2: that was the story I got when I went to 807 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 2: Puerto Rico to do a story on him, and he 808 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 2: was a very very gracious host for me. 809 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: The next guard, I'm pulling out of the box. Here, 810 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: Dad is a Sean Green card. 811 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 4: Here we go. 812 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Sean Green hit four home runs in a Major 813 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 2: League game, had and he also had a double. I mean, 814 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 2: it was one of the greatest games that anyone's ever had. 815 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 2: And I repeated this story the other day. Jeff, I'm 816 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 2: going to tell it again about because it came up 817 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 2: when I was talking to Tyler Kepner of the Athletic. 818 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 2: He's one of the great baseball minds ever. He's like 819 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 2: the greatest. He knows stuff that nobody else knows. He's 820 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 2: so impressive remembering guys who played for certain teams and 821 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 2: things like that. So I told him the story about 822 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 2: the four homer guys because Mike Cameron came by. Mike 823 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 2: Cameron hit four home runs in the game for the Mariners, 824 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 2: you know, like twenty like twenty five years ago, almost 825 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 2: something like that. So and he almost hit a fifth. 826 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 2: The fifth one got caught at the right field wall. 827 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 2: So I told Tyler Kepner the story of when Juhanio 828 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,280 Speaker 2: Suarez hit four homers in a game. And I'm driving 829 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 2: to Bristol, and I say, well, just to keep past 830 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 2: the time, I'm going to try to name all the 831 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 2: guys in baseball. 832 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,240 Speaker 3: History, like all twenty. 833 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,720 Speaker 2: I think it was nineteenth time we'd hit four homers 834 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 2: in a game, and I got eighteen and I couldn't 835 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 2: get the nineteen. So I decided, well, I'm gonna cheat 836 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 2: and call Siri Okay on the on the phone while 837 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 2: I'm driving, But of course I don't know how to 838 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 2: do that on my phone, like Siri, who give me 839 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 2: all the guys who had four homers a game? I 840 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 2: don't know how to do that. But if you remember, Jeff, 841 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 2: Pat Siri was the guy that I was missing, Pat 842 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,919 Speaker 2: Siri nineteen forty eight. I want to say, hit four 843 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 2: homers in a game, and I got it right because 844 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 2: I was going to call Siri on the phone and 845 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 2: ask her, and that's when it hit me. It's not 846 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 2: Siri that the answer woman. It's Pat Siri was the 847 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 2: last four homer guy that I couldn't get Sean Green, 848 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 2: great hitter four homers in one game and a really 849 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 2: good major league hitter for quite some time. 850 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm glad you didn't call Siri because she 851 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: might have made you leave a voicemail. 852 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 5: You don't really. 853 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 4: Call Siri, But we'll go over. 854 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 5: The verbiage of it later. 855 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 3: Don't worry. 856 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 4: Called Alexa or called chat GBT too, but we'll handle 857 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 4: that later, don't Yeah. 858 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:12,399 Speaker 3: We'll read about it in the substack or something, right, all. 859 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,760 Speaker 1: Right, Last, certainly not least I pulled another card. 860 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 3: Roger Clemens. 861 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I know he's much maligned for things and everything else. 862 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 2: But look, there is no questioning his work ethic that 863 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 2: he put in every single time he went out there. 864 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 2: And again I'm not going to defend him completely. I 865 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 2: voted for him for the Hall of Fame ten years 866 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 2: in a row. 867 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 3: Not the point. 868 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 2: The point is I was in New York once and 869 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 2: with the covered the Orioles, and Edward Bennett Williams was 870 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 2: the owner of the Orioles mid eighties. And I get 871 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 2: up early because I can't sleep or whatever. And Edward 872 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,959 Speaker 2: Bennett Williams is in the hotel lobby at like seven 873 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning and he looks at me and 874 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,919 Speaker 2: he goes, I just saw Roger Clemens. He went out 875 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 2: for a run at seven o'clock in the morning, and 876 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 2: he had pitched the night before in New York, and 877 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,439 Speaker 2: at seven o'clock in the morning went out and ran 878 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 2: the streets of Manhattan. Another time, Josh, I went to 879 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 2: see the Yankees on a Sunday, and I didn't realize, 880 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 2: at least back then, on Sundays you don't have to 881 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 2: get to the ballpark till eleven o'clock. Well I eleven am. 882 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 2: I didn't know that, so I show up at seven o'clock. 883 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 2: The clubhouse is normally open at eight, and there is 884 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 2: Roger Clemens at seven o'clock in the morning throwing a 885 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 2: football in the parking lot with the trainer. So he's 886 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 2: he's strengthening his arm and doing baseball exercises at seven 887 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning with the trainer when he doesn't 888 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 2: have to be at the ballpark till eleven am. So 889 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 2: say anything you want about Roger Clemens, I get it, 890 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 2: but don't ever question how hard he worked to be 891 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 2: a great pitcher and he was a great pitch. 892 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 5: All right, Dad. 893 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: Well, that wraps up today's edition of Is this a 894 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: Great Game or what? And before we know it, we're 895 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: going to be in the throes of the season and 896 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: we're really looking forward to bringing you more episodes weekly, 897 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 1: so be on the lookout for that. We'll kind of 898 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: jump to we'll jump to two a week, and then 899 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: we'll get into full time three a week, and we'll 900 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: be adjusting our days a little bit, so we'll be 901 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 1: bringing you a Monday episode. So just be on the 902 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: lookout for how things are going to change in twenty 903 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: twenty six. For your rhythm of listening to our show, 904 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: but you know, we'll go over that schedule when we 905 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 1: get there, but for now, we're really excited to be 906 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: taking you through this spring training and Dad, I hope 907 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: you get home safely. 908 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 4: You already look tan. Take some time for yourself, enjoy 909 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 4: spring training, all right. 910 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 3: Thank you, Jeff. 911 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 2: We'll talk next week and go foul Territory Network. 912 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, glad to be a part of it. 913 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening, and as always, thanks 914 00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: for being a part of our family. 915 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 3: The Snow has