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Speaker 1: You're listening to Draftings.

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Speaker 2: Network, the John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast John Annik

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Speaker 2: and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I love him.

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Speaker 4: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 3: I'll hear that both front.

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Speaker 2: Big job there, Cooktuffia, fret Fers, rock Sucker.

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Speaker 5: I don't believe there are a couple of absolutely self

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Speaker 1: Are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: That's solid.

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Speaker 6: Ah, great to be back with you. One year anniversary

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Speaker 6: of Headshot Bangs. Sunday, August twenty at twenty twenty three

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Speaker 6: is the year episode four thirty one of the Anak

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Speaker 6: and Florian podcast.

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Speaker 1: I was up all night.

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Speaker 6: Food delivery driver delivered our late night food of far

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Speaker 6: ways from the hotel. So thanks to my twin bro

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Speaker 6: for braving it for the masses. I'm so glad Ten

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Speaker 6: Flow's here today because I am going on fumes. Thanks

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Speaker 6: for pardoning the voice. Ian Gary said, I went to

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Speaker 6: Brazil to listen. I am here today to listen to

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Speaker 6: Ken Flows Brilliance on UFC two ninety two because my

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Speaker 6: head is still spinning. What a live event. What a

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Speaker 6: week in the hub of the universe, Boston, Massachusetts. Anything

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Speaker 6: I say to the positive about the Boston crowd is

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Speaker 6: probably gonna be viewed through a lens of a lack

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Speaker 6: of objectivity. But I don't even know what's going on

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Speaker 6: half the time because I'm in the cans and listening

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Speaker 6: to traffic. That crowd was so loud. Shout out to

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Speaker 6: the New Englanders, the Bostonians, the Philadelphians, even the New Yorkers,

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Speaker 6: everybody who made their way to TV Garden. Only thing

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Speaker 6: we were really missing was you know, three time world

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Speaker 6: title challenger Kenny Ford.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I was jealous that I was not able

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Speaker 2: to be there. And the energy, the vibe just seemed

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Speaker 2: like it was insane in there. And man, did they

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Speaker 2: get a tremendous card. So real happy for everyone involved. Yeah, John,

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Speaker 2: You're an animal, dude.

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Speaker 1: I see this kid.

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Speaker 2: He sends me an email like four point fifty in

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Speaker 2: the morning. Hey guys, this is what we're gonna do tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I'm like, God, how was this guy do it? Awake?

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Speaker 1: You're an animal dude. Well.

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Speaker 6: I usually try to get you guys in the odds

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Speaker 6: it was a busy week in Massachusetts. We don't have

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Speaker 6: I did some media on Thursday. The whole week was

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Speaker 6: a whirlwind, but I'm super grateful for it. And to

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Speaker 6: Calvin Cater and Joe los On and Chail Son and

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Speaker 6: an address of Boston crowd and Patrice Berger on T

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Speaker 6: shirt canifall I mean, you know, I mean it certainly

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Speaker 1: But it was pretty cool.

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Speaker 6: And what was interesting is that I got to sort

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Speaker 6: los On the one that I introduced as arguably the

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Speaker 6: best pound for pounds fighter out of the state of Massachusetts.

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Speaker 6: Of those three, which of those three do you think

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Speaker 6: six of Calvin Cater's twelve UFC fights have been main events, right,

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Speaker 6: Rob Font obviously his fought Jose Aldo and recently Corey Sandhagen,

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Speaker 6: for Font as well, So For me, it was between

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Speaker 6: Bonus Machine and the absolute legendary twenty eight times UFC

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Speaker 6: veteran Ken Flow victim.

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Speaker 1: But I just thought I'd have a little.

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Speaker 6: So I was like, inarguably the best pound for pound

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Speaker 4: You think I went Rob fonnor Calvin Cater Cater, I

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Speaker 6: And now Cater probably hates me because it's not Smallways

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Speaker 6: Fight week, and we brought back the art work there

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Speaker 6: behind us, immortalizing what I believe is the greatest singular

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Speaker 6: performance certainly statistically in UFC history. When we get to

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Speaker 6: jongwey Lee and her nearly three hundred significant strikes landed,

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Speaker 3: Or some shit.

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Speaker 6: The all you was insane. I was shaking deep into

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Speaker 6: and Max was like, you're shaking. I'm like, yeah, dude,

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Speaker 6: like I've never seen anything like that. You're looking at

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Speaker 6: and landing he landed four hundred and forty five significant strikes.

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Speaker 6: It'll never be duplicated, but a lot to get to today,

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Speaker 6: including predictions on Max all the way in the Korean

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Speaker 6: johnbie chand Stung Jung. But thanks to everybody at TV

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Speaker 6: Garden for a memorable weekend. And it was made more memorable,

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Speaker 6: of course by Sugar Sean O'Malley. I got a lot

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Speaker 6: Coming up by the way in about twenty eight minutes,

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Speaker 6: perhaps he'll read too much into the T shirt Ken Flow.

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Speaker 6: There is a new UFC bantamweight champion. It's Sugar Shan O'Malley.

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Speaker 1: Doubt it. It's your own peril.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes I wonder aloud why these guys that look to

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Speaker 6: from either the fan base or their fellow fighters. Got

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Speaker 6: to respect him, now, Shan O'Malley's the new king Kenflow.

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Speaker 1: And no question about it. John.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think that we often doubt that, myself

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Speaker 2: and O'Malley was largely able to do that. Now, of course,

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Speaker 2: certainly did his homework there and should be applauded for that.

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Speaker 2: But I think what is more difficult is the ability

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Speaker 2: with long range weapons and footwork alone, the lateral footwork,

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Speaker 2: the jabs, the feints, all the little things that people

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Speaker 2: that Sean O'Malley brought into that octagon on Saturday night,

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Speaker 2: and Aljo looked frustrated, he looked confused, and that's what

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Speaker 1: By the way it would have worked, it would have

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Speaker 2: But when you have a guy who knows that, a

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Speaker 2: it was going to be that shot. He's just so

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Speaker 2: And it was Aljo's forward movement right that crushed into

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Speaker 1: And I have much more, but I'm gonna take a pause.

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Speaker 6: So Sean O'Malley's a special athlete, and i'd imagine that's

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Speaker 6: when you combine assets and traits, I mean I speak

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Speaker 6: I mean I understand the work ethic, and we'll get

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Speaker 1: And how much of it is just that?

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Speaker 6: You know, this kid's like Patrick Mahomes with his little

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I think that he's much more than that, right,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Sean O'Malley is a special athlete.

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Speaker 2: I think when you talk about his speed, his timing,

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Speaker 2: And then of course he was gifted with tremendous length,

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Speaker 2: But in regards to al Jie, you know, I've heard

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Speaker 2: What the hell does that mean? You know, It's like,

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Speaker 2: if he's throwing a strike, does that mean he's over

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Speaker 2: extending himself. Well, to me, what it means is he's

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Speaker 2: throwing himself out of position. He got his head a

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Speaker 2: So, when when you have that momentum when your head

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Speaker 2: in that moment, and O'Malley is just way too damn

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Speaker 1: So again, it was just it was a perfect disaster.

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Speaker 2: And it's another reminder that Mma is the sport where

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Speaker 6: Ray Longo is one of my dearest friends, and I'm

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Speaker 6: a little anxious for the Ray long Go minute today

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Speaker 6: because the first thing al Jamain Sterling said on the

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Speaker 2: I was also taken aback when I heard al Jamain

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Speaker 6: I believe you're supposed to fill your stomach with air

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Speaker 6: But dude, I was like seeing stars almost blacked out

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Speaker 2: Right absolutely, man, And you know, I know al Joe

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Speaker 2: also have to talk about al Jamaine Sterling. I don't

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Speaker 2: seven months, eight months, it would have been asking a

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Speaker 2: lot from.

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Speaker 1: The UFC, and he already knows that that probably would

436
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Speaker 1: have been a tough ask.

437
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Speaker 6: Al Jamaine Sterling did win the first round on all

438
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Speaker 6: three judges scorecards, but he certainly didn't have the productivity,

439
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Speaker 6: let's say, in this fight, that Valentina Shevchenko did in

440
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Speaker 6: her first meeting against Alexa Grosso. One thing Joe Rogan

441
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 6: was saying was that sometimes when there's a decisive result

442
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 6: like this, you don't necessarily have the foundation for an

443
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Speaker 6: immediate rematch. For me, I think, first and foremost, it's

444
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Speaker 6: exciting to push the reset button. You do have your

445
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Speaker 6: dear friend Mirob Dwallis Willy there as a number one contender,

446
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Speaker 6: so I think it might just be time to move

447
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 6: on to feather wait and see exactly what you can

448
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 6: do there. There are a lot of big fights for him,

449
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 6: potential main events for him there, so we'll see what happens,

450
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Speaker 6: But as his friend, I just wouldn't want him to

451
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Speaker 6: necessarily cut this much weight.

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Speaker 4: Several more times hereafter Gosh, so much to get into.

453
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Speaker 6: As far as the stoppages concerned, Ken Flow, no denying,

454
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Speaker 6: there's some inconsistency when it comes to these situations. I

455
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Speaker 6: talk about these referees as having some of the harder

456
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Speaker 6: jobs at MMA judges too. I believe Jason Herzog and

457
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Speaker 6: Mark Otter are the two best referees in MMA right now,

458
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Speaker 6: and probably forgetting an elite referee in there as well.

459
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Speaker 6: Some might suggest that Goddard saved him some dignity by

460
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Speaker 6: not actually having him go out cold with a few

461
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Speaker 6: more ground strikes. No major protest from Al Jamain Sterling,

462
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Speaker 6: huge protest from his right hand man, Dwallish Willie. I'm

463
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Speaker 6: sure Domina Cruz would would want to see Al Joe

464
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Speaker 6: get another beat or two, and I tend to lean

465
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Speaker 6: that way. Kenny and thinking it was a skoch premature,

466
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Speaker 6: even though I do like Goddard and give him the

467
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Speaker 6: benefit of the doubt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no question about him.

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Speaker 2: Mark Arter is fantastic, fantastic referee, and he was actually

470
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Speaker 2: had refereeing duties the night before in New York for

471
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Speaker 2: US at the PFL. And you know, I think that

472
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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily have a problem with it. If again me,

473
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Speaker 2: I know nothing about refereeing, I probably would have let

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Speaker 2: it go a little bit more, because yes, he was

475
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Speaker 2: like not all the way there, but Aljo was fighting

476
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Speaker 2: his way back right to me, it looked like he

477
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Speaker 2: was fighting his way back when he turtled up at

478
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Speaker 2: though at the very end though, that's when I was like, ee,

479
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Speaker 2: so I don't know, man, I don't necessarily have a

480
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Speaker 2: problem with it. There it's clear Aljo was absolutely rocked.

481
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Speaker 2: He was trying to battle his way back. Then it

482
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Speaker 2: seemed like his legs and arms were kind of flailing,

483
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Speaker 2: but not intelligently. He was just kind of his body

484
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 2: was doing it, but his mind not. Maybe not necessarily. Yeah,

485
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Speaker 2: so you know, I wouldn't have had a problem with

486
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Speaker 2: it going a little bit longer, but I'm sure it

487
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Speaker 2: would have probably led to more damage.

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Speaker 1: So in that regard, I think it's a pretty solid stoppage.

489
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Speaker 2: But when you have a champion, you kind of want

490
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Speaker 2: to give him a little bit more of a chance

491
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Speaker 2: to get back into it.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a tricky.

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Speaker 6: Thing because Goddard and the officials, and rightfully so certainly

494
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Speaker 6: don't want to hear the noise like this is a

495
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Speaker 6: championship setting. They're in there to protect the fighter, and

496
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Speaker 6: I think a lot of fans would rather see one

497
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Speaker 6: more shot than one fewer, right, More often than not,

498
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Speaker 6: I would sort of be on the other side. I'd

499
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Speaker 6: rather see a premature stoppage than a super late one

500
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Speaker 6: that jeopardizes or impacts a career and brain health. But

501
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 6: my goodness, these warriors at a championship setting. It's it's

502
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Speaker 6: a really tricky thing. But the good thing is that

503
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Speaker 6: Mark Goddard has established so much goodwill that I'll give

504
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Speaker 6: him the benefit of the doubt every day of the week.

505
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Speaker 6: We'll see if Longgo has any thoughts on that. Coming

506
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Speaker 6: up in about twelve minutes here on the DraftKings Network.

507
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Speaker 6: Have you with us on the anicon Florian podcast as

508
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 6: we continue to recap UFC two ninety two. Now, in

509
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 6: terms of the promotion's appetite to have Sean O'Malley or

510
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 6: al Jamaine Serling as the champion, never before in UFC history,

511
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 6: and I'm quoting MMA history today, has the promotion uploaded

512
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Speaker 6: an entire pay per view main event to their YouTube channel.

513
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Speaker 6: Immediately seems to be all hands on deck Ken Flow

514
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Speaker 6: in terms of trying to bloat Shawn Malley into Sean

515
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Speaker 6: O'Malley into the next big thing. I'll be on Sports

516
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Speaker 6: Center tomorrow at twelve forty pm Eastern Standard time, and

517
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Speaker 6: those calls don't come in for me very often.

518
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Speaker 4: This dude is about to take over.

519
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Speaker 6: And while I think it ambitious to suggest that he

520
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 6: could get to a Connor McGregor level, I'm not going

521
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Speaker 6: to start putting things past him on his celebration Sunday.

522
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, I think with everything he has

523
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 2: going on, all the different businesses and side hustles he's

524
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: got going on, you know, he may have not even

525
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: needed this push, but it's clear the UFC machine wanted

526
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Speaker 2: to get behind him.

527
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Speaker 1: And now they are activating.

528
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: They're at activation mode and that is a very good

529
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: thing for a fighter, and it's rare that they even

530
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: do that, right for someone like that, and O'Malley, he's

531
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Speaker 2: got that. Look, man, he's very unique. There's no one

532
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 2: really like him, you know, And I don't know, man,

533
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a huge, huge star

534
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: We talked about this on the last show. I said,

535
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Speaker 2: maybe it's not this time against Aljoel, but at some

536
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 2: point he's going to be a superstar. The time is now, man,

537
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 2: the time is now. It's not simple, and I think

538
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: it's well deserved, just based on his style and.

539
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: Who he is.

540
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Speaker 6: So if you don't know, oftentimes, if you're watching Sports

541
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Speaker 6: Center after a pay per view, you might get a

542
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 6: sterling O'Malley highlight, and then you'll get a freeze frame

543
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 6: when he actually lands that right hand. By them distributing

544
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 6: this fight to the masses, my daughter saw it on Snapchat.

545
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 6: Don't judge me. She's not really on social media, only

546
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 6: that application. My wife had seen this, right, They don't

547
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 6: engage necessarily. This knockout is all over the goddamn joint, Kenny,

548
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 6: and Yeah, people just gravitate towards Sean O'Malley. Right, As

549
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 6: I said on the post fight show, you don't have

550
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 6: to be a master orator like chail Son and to

551
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 6: draw mass appeal and have the it factor. And you know,

552
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Speaker 6: I watched Sean O'Malley's entire twenty three minute media scrum

553
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 6: can flow and I thought it was fucking brilliant. So

554
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 6: you know, this dude's got a lot of the uh,

555
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 6: a lot of the package, if not the total package.

556
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: I could always tell how big a fight does.

557
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: This sounds kind of lame, but I can always tell

558
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: how big a fight is when my wife kind of

559
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: knows a little bit about it, you know, like she

560
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 2: she knows that there's a fight going on, but she's like, hey, yeah,

561
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 2: isn't that O'Malley guy fighting in the main event? And

562
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 2: I'm like, you never know any of the names, you know,

563
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: and she knew exactly what was. We don't have cable,

564
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: we don't watch television, but she knew about it. So

565
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: you know, that to me is usually an indicator when

566
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,719
Speaker 2: when the casuals know exactly who's fighting, when it's happening,

567
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: and that it's going to be a pretty big fight,

568
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: and then after they win, you know, everyone's kind of

569
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: talking about, yeah, it's a very big deal for the

570
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: UFC and for O'Malley so and again, you know, coming

571
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 2: from where I came from the lighter weight classes, never

572
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 2: got this kind of love. Make right, this is one

573
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five pounder that is garnering all this

574
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 2: attention and when you put that in perspective from where

575
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: we were as a sport, you know, ten years, fifteen

576
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 2: years ago, it's it's quite the accomplishment, Quite the accomplishments.

577
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Speaker 1: It's incredibly impressive.

578
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Speaker 6: There have been a lot of bandamwaight title fights on

579
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Speaker 6: free TV so to speak. Right, even Dominic Cruz and TJ.

580
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 6: Dillashow fighting for the belt in twenty sixteen was a

581
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 6: UFC fight night. This was Aljamaine Sterling's second UFC main event.

582
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Speaker 6: Sean O'Malley can headline at one hundred and thirty five pounds.

583
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 6: That is a tremendous luxury for the promotion. So as

584
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Speaker 6: we spend this forward, Sean O'Malley has torn cartilage of

585
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 6: some kind or a torn muscle below the rib, wasn't

586
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Speaker 6: able to grapple for five or six weeks.

587
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Speaker 4: It limited his sparring.

588
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Speaker 6: I think it makes this feat all the more impressive,

589
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 6: and I think it certainly, as he alluded to on

590
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Speaker 6: the post show, contributed to some of his nerves that

591
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 6: he wasn't able to put in the requisite work. And

592
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Speaker 6: I think it's astonishing that Al Jermain Sterling was zero

593
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 6: for two for takedowns and gosh, there's so much we

594
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 6: can get into, but I think at this point it's

595
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Speaker 6: optimistic to think that he's going to be able to

596
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Speaker 6: fight Marlon Cheeto Vera in December.

597
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Speaker 4: But you know, once again, the stars seem to align

598
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 4: for Sean O'Malley.

599
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Speaker 6: If you don't want to fight Morob Dwallas, Willie or

600
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 6: Corey Sandagen in title defense number one. And I say

601
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Speaker 6: that with all due respect to the magnificent challenge that

602
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 6: is Marlon Chito Vera. But it looks as though if

603
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 6: everybody's healthy, it is going to be UFC two ninety

604
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 6: six probably well, unless it's Leon Edwards and Kobe as well,

605
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 6: But UFC two ninety six O'Malley v.

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Speaker 1: Cheito two, and that's.

607
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Speaker 2: A great fight. You know, obviously, you have the history,

608
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: you have the style matchup. You have two guys that

609
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: really are not very fond of each other, two guys

610
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: that are extremely aggressive, that are great strikers. They both

611
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Speaker 2: fight on the same they both fought on the same

612
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 2: night last night. It's a great story, you know.

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Speaker 1: Send it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So congratulations to Sean O'Malley, to his entire team,

615
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 6: Augusto Tankino, Mendez, Tim Welch, Brandon Harris, everybody else. My

616
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 6: twin bro was sitting with Sean O'Malley's family and he said,

617
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 6: they are just outstanding people, So you can feel good

618
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 6: about that. Sean O'Malley has moved almost his entire family

619
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Speaker 6: from Montana to Arizona. His dad is the lone holdout,

620
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Speaker 6: but I think they're going to get him there soon

621
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Speaker 6: and to be able to financially do that for your family, right, Sorry, mom,

622
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 6: can't buy your house yet. Can't buy your house yet. Actually,

623
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Speaker 6: we're never going to be able to buy your house. Mom,

624
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 6: It's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen. My late stepfather, no,

625
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 6: my late father in law would always say, play the lottery.

626
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 6: And I'm not talking scratch tickets, folks. Go play your

627
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 6: state lottery. Play the tickets like every day of the

628
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 6: mega millions, change your life, all right. So Longo's going

629
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 6: to join us quickly, And I almost hesitate to pivot

630
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 6: off of this fight, but I am going to do

631
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 6: that and get to Ian Maschado, Gary and Jongwae Lee

632
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 6: and some of these other performers.

633
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 4: At UFC two ninety two.

634
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 6: Magnum jeongwe Lee defends her title here, she told me

635
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 6: in the fighter meeting as thoughtful a fighter meeting as

636
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 6: I can ever remember being a part of. By the way,

637
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 6: I mean, my goodness, you know, we felt like we

638
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 6: were talking to fucking Bruce Lee. You know, fifty three,

639
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 6: fifty four, forty nine, forty five, all hails Yong Way Lee.

640
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 6: I don't know what to have for us on the

641
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 6: DARS defense as well, the one time she was threatened

642
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 6: in the fight, but just an incredible performance that had

643
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 6: everything to it, including submission defense.

644
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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I had a feeling, I had a gut

645
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: feeling this is going to be a grappling heavy game plan,

646
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Speaker 2: and that's exactly what we got. Some great exchanges on

647
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: the feet, for sure, but I think she realized that

648
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: the easiest path to victory was taking this fight to

649
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: the ground. There was one point where it did look

650
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: like it was pretty tight. I think the angle made

651
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: it a little bit too difficult for Lamos to finish.

652
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: It was tight, but I think the angle was not

653
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: quite there on it, and it definitely seemed like it

654
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: was something Pacheco was looking to have up her sleeve

655
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: to try to catch Jangwai Lee off guard. But this

656
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: is a woman that really did her homework, and John

657
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: absolutely I could see that, you know, her being very

658
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: charismatic at that meeting. First of all, kudos to her

659
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: for trying to learn English, which is extremely difficult. She

660
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: has made major, major improvements. She didn't know one word

661
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: of English when she started in this sport. To see

662
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: where she's at just shows her intelligence and her dedicated

663
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: to that, which is awesome. And then see some of

664
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: the countdown stuff, you know, with her behind the scenes.

665
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: I probably said the show wrong, but you know, you know,

666
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: just the behind the scenes stuff. She just seems like

667
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: an absolute sweetheart, just a very kind human being. But

668
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: then she gets in that cage too, and she turns

669
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: into something very very far from that.

670
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: Uh, just just.

671
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: Amazing to watch man. Just a tremendous athlete. We always

672
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: talk about that. But she does her homework. She has

673
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: improved her technical skills.

674
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: On the ground, on the feet. So much good luck

675
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: trying to beat her.

676
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 6: All right, So I'm here with my joangwe Lee fighter

677
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 6: card and I just want to write down I go

678
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 6: into these fighter meetings with most of my notes done.

679
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 6: These are the things that I wrote down based upon

680
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 6: our fighter meeting perhaps you'll find this interesting. So she

681
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 6: reads a lot about Chinese culture. Right, If I'm Tatiana

682
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 6: Suarez listening to the Anak and Florian podcast, I'm like, God,

683
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 6: damn it, fucking Jong Way Lee reading about Chinese culture

684
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 6: fucking getting better every day, said she was going to

685
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 6: wrap around her like water. I fight against my laziness

686
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 6: every day. I fight myself every day. Discipline. Regaining the

687
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 6: title is hard, Defending it is harder. Sees herself as

688
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 6: the real opponent, just relaxed and much happier in there

689
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 6: than ever before. And then she sees untapped potential and

690
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 6: improvements when we ask where she is relative to her

691
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 6: fighting prime. So, yeah, she was certainly like water and

692
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,479
Speaker 6: Mike Gosh, she's a real problem and it doesn't really matter.

693
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 6: I guess whether or not she's the number one pound

694
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 6: for pound women's mixed martial arts athlete in the world.

695
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 6: I think Larissa Pachaco is cannonball coming, to be sure.

696
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 6: And there's some other fighters in that conversation as well.

697
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 6: I think Aaron Blanchfield and Tyler Santos, both fighting this weekend,

698
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 6: are to the top eleven pound for pound women in

699
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 6: the world. Right as far as the UFC is concerned.

700
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 6: So there's a lot of talent in the women's game

701
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 6: right now, but we got to give Jeong Way Lee

702
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 6: all her flowers as far as her next title defense

703
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 6: is concerned, Kenny, So, China is far from South Florida.

704
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 6: But the foundation could be laid for Jan Shan Nana's

705
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 6: title challenger against her true woman, Jean Wai Lee. You

706
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 6: could also do Jeanwae Lee Tatiana Sara. Seemed as though

707
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 6: Jean Wi Lee expressed an appetite to that for that

708
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 6: in her post fight comments, what do you think they

709
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 6: do with joangwe Lee, Tatiana Surez, Jan Shannan seemed to

710
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 6: be the most prominent names and do you have a

711
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 6: preference of those two?

712
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say Tatiana Suarez probably makes the most

713
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: amount of sense. You know, I don't know what the

714
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: appetite is to have two females from China do it

715
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: at this this stage of the game. I think Uh

716
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: Cheannan definitely there's a case there for sure. I think

717
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 2: the stylistic matchup of Tatiana Suarez and her recent win

718
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 2: makes it a little bit more interesting to me, And

719
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: it's not exactly clear who I think is going to win.

720
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: For a long time, I didn't think there was anyone

721
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: out there that would be able to beat someone like

722
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: a Tatiana Suarez. But when I see the improvements that

723
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 2: jeangwuay Lee is making and has made, h she's a problem.

724
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 2: And the fact that she's actually shorter stock here makes

725
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: it that much more of a problem when you're trying

726
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: to get underneath someone center of mass, when you're trying

727
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 2: to attack those legs.

728
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: You want them to be nice and tall, right, do not?

729
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: In some ways it makes striking more difficult, but to

730
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: enter into their legs, it makes it that much more

731
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: challenging when you're shorter and stuck here.

732
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: So sign me up. I love that fight.

733
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 6: You sound like that Argus integrated defense guy there a

734
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 6: little bit, you know, right, all right, So yeah, we'll

735
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 6: see what happens.

736
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 3: Right.

737
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 6: I just feel like sort of like lifetime Achievement Award

738
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 6: for Tatiana Suarez. She's been through so much that I

739
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 6: would absolutely give her the title fight, right, so much

740
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 6: in terms of you know, thyroid canter taking away her

741
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 6: Olympic dreams and then major injuries taking away years potentially

742
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 6: if her mixed martial arts career and or prime. Lorenzo

743
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 6: Fertita always would say strike while the iron is hot

744
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 6: and metrically, I don't know what's a bigger fight, Tatiana

745
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 6: Swarz or yan chan Nan. I do believe yan Channan

746
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 6: can play the heel in China, And yes, there's a

747
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 6: healthy appetite for that fight, Like I can actually wrap

748
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 6: my head around that long trip because that gets my

749
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 6: blood boiling, Like that's an exciting fight for me to

750
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 6: see those two go head to head. But I do

751
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 6: think Tatiana Suarez has to have the inside lane right

752
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 6: now and just got to give her that championship opportunity.

753
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 4: I think she has deserved it all right.

754
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 6: Ian Maschadeo Gary over Neil Magny by unanimous decision. One

755
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 6: of the scorecards was thirty to twenty four. Don't necessarily

756
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 6: have a problem with it. This man is just married

757
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 6: to the game and does an open workout in an

758
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 6: impromptu fashion at an Irish pub in Boston the night

759
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 6: before the fight.

760
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 1: He loves the preparation.

761
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 4: Kenny.

762
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 6: His ears are as open as his mind. He is

763
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 6: about to buy a house in Brazil, which I think

764
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 6: is going to be his primary home at least right now,

765
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 6: and he's going to sort of get away from this

766
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 6: nomadic life that he has been living. But again, I

767
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 6: just don't think people understand the gravity of how good

768
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 6: this guy is. But you know what, ray Longo has

769
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 6: made his way back from Boston to Garden City, New York.

770
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 6: So let us get to Raymond Peter Longo, and uh,

771
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 6: we really appreciate this man.

772
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: You're doing Okay, you at the gym right now.

773
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 3: I stopped at the gym, so I wouldn't have made it,

774
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: but look, I love you guys, and I would do

775
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 3: it boys, but this was this was insane. I had

776
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: Thank god Bizuka did a great job driving, but it

777
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: took us five hours, which wow, will be like a

778
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 3: three hour three and a half hour trip maybe, but uh,

779
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 3: you know, and then at the last minute, I quit

780
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: though I sent you a video. That's why I said,

781
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 3: there's luggage in the seat. Oh I didn't get it

782
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: in between my wife and I quitted as a suitcase.

783
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: You know, everybody was jammed in. He couldn't see out

784
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: the back window. But yeah, that's the way. That's the way, man,

785
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: And that's you know, I think that's going to be

786
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: the gist of this whole talk today, but what I'll

787
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 3: tell you three months ago, you come off two great wins,

788
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: you go into this it's it's the fight game. Man.

789
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 3: It's a crazy, crazy thing. But emotionally, if you're not

790
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 3: grounded and you don't have your priority straight, you will

791
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 3: definitely get swept out to see But let's hit it, man, Kenny's.

792
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 4: Good to see you, buddy, Great to see you.

793
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 6: All right, we have a lot to get into, but

794
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 6: I do want to start on a lighter note because

795
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 6: you sent me a video in the car driving back

796
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 6: with Dennis and Ali quint and you're like, we're coming John,

797
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 6: you know, And I just don't want to get this

798
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 6: reputation that's a dictator who's like hazing you to get

799
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 6: back so we can do then Corean podcast.

800
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: No, No, I just want to let you know, man,

801
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 3: I'm trying. I really know. At first seven o'clock seemed

802
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: good and then I was like, holy shit, man with

803
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 3: trap food all knows you know, But we made it.

804
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: We're here.

805
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 6: That's all that matters, man, revolves around you. Well, we

806
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 6: we appreciate you extending yourself to be sure. I'm glad

807
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 6: that you made it home safely. So yes, this sport

808
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 6: is a whirlwind, thrill on one side, agony on the other.

809
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 6: And there's a lot to get into as far as

810
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 6: this main event is concerned, as far as Chris Wadman's

811
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 6: comeback is concerned, and everything else.

812
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 4: And you making the track of course from Vegas to Boston.

813
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 4: I mean crazy, I know, man, I know, so.

814
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 6: I guess I would just like to start with al

815
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 6: Jamaine Sterling taking the microphone after the fight and saying

816
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 6: that he underestimated Sean O'Malley and I don't necessarily intend

817
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 6: to put you on the spot, but yeah, you know,

818
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 6: I feel like al Jamaine Sterling is not alone in

819
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 6: terms of not necessarily understanding the magnitude of how maybe

820
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 6: good this guy is.

821
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 4: Is that fair to say?

822
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 3: I would think so. Look, the guys, the guy is good.

823
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: He's a great striker, and there's no question about it. Look,

824
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 3: all three judges gave al Joe the first round, and

825
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 3: I think deservingly so. But you know, in between rounds,

826
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: I really told al jo let's go kick heavy. It's

827
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 3: offsett in his punches. I mean, what I was looking

828
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 3: at in the first round was a guy that didn't

829
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: want to commit. I think he was afraid of the takedown.

830
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: He was. I think we and we knew that was

831
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 3: going to happen, but I wasn't really sure. I think

832
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 3: O Maley expected al Jo to do in the first

833
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: round what he did in the second round. And Aljo's

834
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: point was that he could have made it like an

835
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 3: out of Sogna Romero fight, but you know, it would

836
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: have been so unapleasing to the crowd, which I'm surprised

837
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 3: because normally he doesn't talk like he gives a shit

838
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 3: about the crowd, but he did. He did say that

839
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 3: because I think the burden would have been on Shan.

840
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: He would have been down two rounds if Algi just

841
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 3: does the same thing in the first round. I don't

842
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 3: think he was making a move now. I think it

843
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 3: was because he was waiting for Aljo to shoot in.

844
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 3: But then somebody said he did have a bad rib.

845
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: Maybe that played into it too, that he was just

846
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: going to keep his distance. But motherfucker was accurate. He

847
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: hit a beautiful counter. I mean, you know, I'm a

848
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 3: striking guy. I love it, and you know, hats off

849
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: to him, man. He caught Aljo coming in and uh,

850
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 3: you know, normally al Jo, you know goes for the

851
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: leg a little differently or for the cross, but uh,

852
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 3: he caught him. Nobody else has been able to find

853
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 3: al Jo's head. But that's off to him. I got

854
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: nothing but h you know, respectful what he did. So uh,

855
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 3: you know, great, great, great counter punship. And al Joe

856
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 3: did say the movement against the cage, you know, was

857
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 3: was a little frustrating, but he was winning and all

858
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: three judges had him winning, and I think that was

859
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: the That would have been the way the fight would

860
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 3: have won. It wouldn't have been exciting, but then it

861
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 3: would have been on showing to make it exciting, and

862
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: then who knows what would have happened.

863
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: That's a great point, Ray and it gets me wondering

864
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: how much of that, or maybe the lack of patience

865
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: on the part of al Joe had to do with him,

866
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: you know, because I had to do with the trash

867
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: talk going back and forth, the fact that you know,

868
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: UFC had this guy and O'Malley he's the exciting guy.

869
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: Al Joe's the kind of you know, tactical grappler.

870
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I look at him. You don't have to ask him,

871
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 3: but it appears that it, you know, has played into it. Look, hey,

872
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 3: I think it is what it is. But you know,

873
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 3: he did make the walk after three months. He one

874
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: hundred percent didn't want to do it a couple of

875
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: months ago, but once he committed, he had a good camp.

876
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: There's absolutely no excuses. But uh, you know, the UFC

877
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: wanted what they wanted and they got what they got

878
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 3: what they wanted for sure.

879
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 6: You know, Kenny, I just want to jump in here,

880
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 6: but we can't just bury that right right, Like, yeah,

881
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 6: twenty five hard minutes fifteen weeks ago, and I'm just

882
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 6: quoting al Jamaine Serling footwork and lateral movement. He said

883
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 6: he was underprepared for right, and you know, so much

884
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 6: of the first three four weeks. I'm just saying, we're

885
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 6: about getting his injuries right. And this might happen on

886
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 6: the Challenger's timeline, and it is part of the discussion thereafter.

887
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, that's all.

888
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to make excuses. I'm not trying to

889
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 4: make excuses.

890
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 6: O'Malley was you know whatever degree, But this might happen

891
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 6: on the challengers timeline, that's all.

892
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, with added doubt, there's no question about it. It

893
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: look all the all the I don't think it's a

894
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: secret that everything stacked against him, but I don't I

895
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 3: don't want to take away anything. I mean, it's a

896
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 3: great I know what it feels like, man, I know

897
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: what it feels like three times, and I'm happy for

898
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: Roe Welsh and they did a great job with the guy.

899
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 3: And you know, God bless them that they got the

900
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 3: machine behind them, you know what I mean. I was

901
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 3: never that lucky, you know what I mean? With all

902
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 3: of the champions, they had to really earn it and

903
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: fucking fight their way to it. And this look is

904
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 3: could prove it too. So I want those guys to

905
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: enjoy the success just like I did, and just like

906
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: Al Joe did. It's it's all good, you know what

907
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 3: I mean, It really is, But go ahead. I'm sorry, right,

908
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: no worries. No.

909
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: Was there any discussion between you and al Joe and

910
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: the rest of the squad about, you know, the training

911
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: partners that you guys.

912
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: I know it was very early after, but because I'd

913
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: imagine it'd be very difficult to.

914
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: Find a sparring partner that can replicate the links to

915
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: the violent speed of something like O'Malley. But was there

916
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: any discussion about that how that sparring went and maybe

917
00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 2: how that could be adjusted.

918
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 3: Sure, you know, we I'm gonna say, and like again,

919
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 3: you have to really Algie because he's always has a

920
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 3: different perspective on it. But we had lanky, tall guys

921
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 3: in there, so I think he I think what I

922
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 3: didn't see in the training was you know, cutting off

923
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 3: the octagon with the footwork, and we kind of knew

924
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: he was gonna do it, but I thinkured Algia would

925
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 3: just make that adjustment you know, in there. But but

926
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: the guy does move really, really well, So even if

927
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 3: it's true, he still won the round, you know what

928
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 3: I mean, So he could move all he wants. If

929
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: Algia wanted to stand in the center of the octagon,

930
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: then he would have had to come to him. So

931
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 3: there is tactically, I think that's an easy fix. That's

932
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: not nothing crazy, But he does he moves well. So

933
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 3: but it wasn't like he lost the round because of that.

934
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 3: But I think it maybe you know, confused him enough

935
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: to make him leap in a little the range. He

936
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 3: was having a hard time getting the range and I

937
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: think he was feeling it out. It would have been

938
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 3: nice to have another second round exactly like the first round,

939
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 3: because then one that either one of those guys was

940
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: going to have to make something happen or was going

941
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: to be like a shitty fight. But we yeah, go ahead.

942
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, John, Now you go right long minute, your

943
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 4: fucking shot.

944
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 3: And I think if it would have did that, I

945
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: would have liked to see how it played out. But

946
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 3: uh again, the fact that he said he actually brought

947
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 3: up out of Sognia room Maria. I said, it's just

948
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 3: about getting a w't on me. You have nothing to prove, man,

949
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 3: Like you know, I think as much as he says,

950
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 3: it doesn't balther him, I'm confused over the hatred this

951
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 3: guy gets. This guy's a good guy. You see the

952
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 3: way he handled the microphone. He's not making excuses. He

953
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 3: walked out of that fucking octagon like a man. You

954
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: know what I mean. You hear his story at the

955
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 3: press conference, I'm almost in tears, you know what I mean. Like,

956
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 3: I just really hope I could be a menta to

957
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 3: the guy, and he knows that I always have his

958
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: back as an older person, you know what I mean,

959
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 3: Like maybe you know he might have missed that growing

960
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 3: up a little bit, but he's a good dude. I'm

961
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 3: telling you right now that guy's a good dude. So

962
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 3: when I hear this type of hatred like coming out

963
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 3: of the Octa guy, it's like, fuck you out. I

964
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 3: mean like it's not even like boo, you know, it's

965
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: it's it's getting personal, like I I don't know where

966
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 3: it's coming from. But you know that's like again, it's

967
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 3: part of the game, I guess, you know when.

968
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 4: Like I saying, it's insane, man, you know, so.

969
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 3: It's uh, well, I'll.

970
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 4: Tell you where it's coming from, and you know where

971
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 4: it's coming from.

972
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 6: He's the only fighter in UFC history to win the

973
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 6: undisputed title by way of disqualification, and then there have

974
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 6: been others around the title defenses and uh but no,

975
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 6: I mean don't. I don't want to get frustrated and sad.

976
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 6: Today he was just dripping with class after the fact

977
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 6: that he was almost too honest down he was almost

978
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 6: too honest as far as some things were concerned. By

979
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 6: the way I just read a text from you, Dennis

980
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 6: Bezuka is gunning it like you're making me sound like

981
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 6: a pledge Marshal trying to get you to the shoe.

982
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 4: Wait that I feel allody that that wasn't me, that

983
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 4: was Cody. Oh, now I feel much.

984
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 3: He's but Dennis Mazuka was gunning it.

985
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 6: Your wife's probably like John doesn't pay enough for us

986
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 6: to be going this ass on the highway.

987
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: I'm giving my wife an a plus this trip. She

988
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: put up a lot, She put up with a lot

989
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 3: of shit. She was absolutely awesome.

990
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 6: So I try not to speak out of both sides

991
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 6: of my mouth, but I did think it was a

992
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 6: miss by al Jamain Sterling to not ask for the

993
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 6: immediate rematch after the fact, even if you have no

994
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 6: intention of taking it and you want to leave the division.

995
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 4: I think he's conflicted.

996
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 6: Really because he has Morob Dwalash Willie, you know, on

997
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 6: the brainstem in that moment, and he's always sort of

998
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 6: that unselfish type who wants to put his guy forward, right.

999
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 6: But I also don't necessarily want to see him cut

1000
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 6: down to one hundred and thirty five pounds a million

1001
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 6: more times.

1002
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: So what can you tell us?

1003
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 6: Probably nothing, But what do you think I mean he

1004
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 6: did at the postfight press conference. I would like to

1005
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 6: think that I've earned my right to get an immediate rematch.

1006
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 6: I'm gonna remember this night for a very long time.

1007
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 6: It's going to feel me for just bigger and greater things.

1008
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm gonna say, he's gonna look at that fight

1009
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 3: no less than nine hundred and fifty thousand times, because

1010
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 3: that's not that's who he is. I mean, and I

1011
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 3: hope he. I I tell him, go on vacation and

1012
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 3: enjoy yourself being. Don't please, don't beat yourself up over this.

1013
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: I think he he has his priorities, strainers, what's to

1014
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: concentrate on. But getting to the rematch thing. He could

1015
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 3: say whatever he wants, the UFC's gonna do what the

1016
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: UFC is gonna do. You could balk and try all

1017
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 3: you want, especially him, then they're not gonna, you know,

1018
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 3: because he's asking for a butt. But that said Sewan Shelby,

1019
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: and I hope I'm not miss misstatingus. I mean, in

1020
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 3: the back, I was delirious. But Sewan Shelby said, do

1021
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 3: you want to rematch? Al Jo said one one hundred

1022
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 3: percent want the rematch, and so he did.

1023
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: There was talk.

1024
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna say, Sean asked him, he said it,

1025
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 3: and so I'm saying he's getting the rematch. I mean,

1026
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 3: they said the numbers were outstanding for the biggest bandam

1027
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 3: Way paper you is that that true? Somebody told me,

1028
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 3: you know they they're going to be dictated by money.

1029
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter now who is. That's a if they made,

1030
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 3: If they made a bank on that thing, they'll do

1031
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 3: it again for sure. So Sean did say that, Al

1032
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 3: just said one no questions about it. Uh, And I

1033
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 3: think that's uh, you know, that's where we are. So

1034
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 3: and I think he will make the adjustments. You know.

1035
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 3: I think he's got a uh a good idea of

1036
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 3: what he knows exactly what happened. That's that's the good news.

1037
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 3: He knows the overextended himself. It's a long time and

1038
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 3: you know whatever. But again, I have beautiful, beautiful CounterPunch.

1039
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 4: All right, that's some real behind the scenes didn't tell

1040
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 4: there for very long ago. You got timeline.

1041
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: No, that that's very good.

1042
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 3: That that's interesting. He's going, I think, you know, you know,

1043
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 3: you know, he flew to Los Angeles today to see

1044
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 3: the doctor. So we'll have more of an idea on

1045
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 3: his timeline when he comes back. But he did stack

1046
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 3: people this whole weekend. Yeah, he was smacking up of people.

1047
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: He's like he should go into slap that slap league.

1048
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 3: I think that's you know that somebody was hassling Pedro

1049
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 3: mun Munios his wife and Marob slapped the guy right

1050
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 3: in the face. The guy ran, goody good. You know,

1051
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 3: imagine that good guys are being a piece of ship

1052
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 3: the paper.

1053
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 6: From Boston or Philly, Boston, Bostonian or Philadelphia, I don't know.

1054
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 4: Definitely wasn't a New Yorker. You guys can be assoholes though.

1055
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 3: Huh No, I guess I don't know it is it is.

1056
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 3: I guess By the way, someone.

1057
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: Came up to me.

1058
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 6: Someone came up to me in Boston, and this guy

1059
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 6: knew exactly what to say to get a photo, right.

1060
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 6: He's like, hey, He's like, I'm not a minute man, right.

1061
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 6: I'm like, that's what's up me either.

1062
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: Man me.

1063
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 3: That's what I gotta do. I gotta start sending people

1064
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: over to you. That's gonna be a good gig.

1065
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 6: By the way, it's man, I just got a text

1066
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 6: for my wife because my son, I think wanted to

1067
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 6: make have a cameo on the anicanforn podcast. My voice,

1068
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 6: oh thank you, it's uh, I'm not I don't know

1069
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 6: if my voice is gonna hold up if I keep

1070
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 6: acting like a lunatic. So, uh, I get I guess

1071
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 6: I would just say, and we have to get to

1072
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 6: Chris Widman. I just have so much respect for Aljamain Sterling,

1073
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 6: and uh yeah, you know, my heart does go out

1074
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 6: to him as far as uh as the the venom

1075
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 6: that that seemingly comes his way, even in the Tri

1076
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 6: state area in New Jersey, which was nothing if not stunning.

1077
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 6: And if I'm being completely honest, sometimes he can be

1078
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 6: a little bit quirky and and not maximize the nighttime,

1079
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 6: but this weekend he did. And even if I thought

1080
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 6: he was almost too honest after the fact, the numbers

1081
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 6: on his post fight comments on the Internet are just absurd.

1082
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 4: And I just have so much respect for him.

1083
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 6: And as far as his UFC bantamweight resume is concerned,

1084
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 6: you know, I'm not saying he's the best fighter skill

1085
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 6: for skill the division's ever seen. But let me know

1086
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 6: when somebody surpasses his UFC bantam weight resume in terms

1087
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 6: of accomplishments.

1088
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 3: There you go. I agree, one hundred percent. Well you look,

1089
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 3: look John, at the end of the day, man, it's

1090
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 3: how you carry yourself as a person. Right, These are

1091
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 3: all little life lessons to see who you are. And

1092
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: I think his character is really unbelievable, the way he

1093
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: spoke about Widman at the press conference, and the way

1094
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 3: he spoke about his upbringing, and you know how he

1095
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 3: beat the odds and made it. This this is a

1096
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 3: little bleep. I know it sucks. Nobody wants to lose.

1097
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 3: I'm a fucking soul loseer. Trust me, I've learned how

1098
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 3: to come like do this like I don't care how

1099
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 3: bad it is. I'll always come on and do the

1100
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 3: show and try to handle myself with you know, grace

1101
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 3: and you know dignity. But you know, this is what

1102
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 3: what molds you, This is what really makes you. I'm

1103
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 3: so happy for these guys the way they handle themselves

1104
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 3: in defeat. And look, you can't keep going up and

1105
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 3: up and up, you know what I mean. That's why

1106
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 3: I kind of I always say this. I love what

1107
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 3: Kabid did. He quit while he was on top. He

1108
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 3: had great resume, and you never have to deal with this,

1109
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And it might be harder

1110
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: to do what Kabib did than even go out, you know,

1111
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: even after a loss. So it's all good. But I

1112
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 3: think again, these guys handle themselves like gentlemen. They walk

1113
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 3: out like men. And that's it. Man. You know, I

1114
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 3: got a really nice text that you know, it was

1115
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 3: something to the effected you know, my eleving. I'm proud

1116
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 3: to say I could love my eleven year old son.

1117
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 3: Watch you know the post fight interviews and you know,

1118
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 3: be proud of what he's going to hear, you know

1119
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 3: what I mean. So there's a message in and I

1120
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 3: can't I just can't say enough about it. Couldn't give

1121
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 3: his ship. Man really about Yeah, I want everybody to win,

1122
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 3: but they they're just all winners in life. And I

1123
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 3: don't I don't think you could put a price on

1124
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 3: that man. He knows where his priorities. I think I

1125
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 3: had a good chat with him and that's it. You know.

1126
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 6: Just make sure that guy's son doesn't listen to your

1127
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 6: foul mouth on the Anakin Flora podcast.

1128
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: Right, that's another guy.

1129
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 2: Another guy that you could be really proud of is

1130
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 2: Chris Widen, who you know, showed the heart of a champion.

1131
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 2: The determination that he showed out there again just coming

1132
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 2: back to fight is a huge accomplishment. But can you

1133
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about what you thought about Chris's

1134
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: performance in his first time back since that devastating legwork.

1135
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, man, I think Chris is a winner all around.

1136
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 3: I'm happy for Chris with this fight. I mean just

1137
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 3: the fact that you know, he came back from the injury.

1138
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 3: He's getting older. It's a two and a hit two

1139
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 3: and a half, you you know, layoff. I mean, that's

1140
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 3: a lot to overcome without an injury. That injury was

1141
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 3: actually worse than Anderson Silvers because his bone came through

1142
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 3: the skin, which they say is really bad. So the

1143
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 3: fact that he went in there, and you know, for

1144
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 3: the tough Hawaiian dudeman who's a super nice guy. I

1145
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 3: thought that second round was phenomenal. He had the whole

1146
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 3: crowd cheer and form, you know what I mean, he

1147
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 3: had a lot of support, right John, Oh my gosh.

1148
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 3: Which and in the second round when he was like

1149
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 3: waving him in or I think he might have said,

1150
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 3: are you kidding me? You're kicking me? He told him,

1151
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 3: you're kidding, You're kicking me in my bad lady.

1152
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 6: His walkout was unbelievable. It's the only time in twelve

1153
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 6: years for me on a UFC microphone where I was

1154
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 6: like trying with my arm, trying to get the crowd

1155
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 6: going at one point, and I've never done on that before. Right,

1156
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 6: it was like an outer body of experience and I

1157
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 6: don't like New Yorkers. It was really cool.

1158
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 3: So listen. I mean ESPN covered the whole since the

1159
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 3: leg break now, and I think it's to make for

1160
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 3: a great story. It'll be inspirational. That's what I was

1161
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 3: kind of telling him, Just the fact that you made

1162
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 3: that walk and he got his legs beat up, and

1163
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 3: that's gotta be like again, he's a special cat, but man,

1164
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 3: you had a bad break on that leg like that,

1165
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 3: you're getting your legs shoot up, both of them. You

1166
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 3: know that that other leg he had a softball coming

1167
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 3: up if I guess he to kick with it or

1168
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 3: did something. But just crazy, man. Just my hat goes

1169
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 3: off to him. It just was great seeing his family.

1170
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 3: The kids are growing up, you know, because you keep

1171
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 3: moves so you don't get to see anything. So I

1172
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 3: think we're coming at it from a different angle, like

1173
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 3: everybody wants to win, but all these guys have done

1174
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 3: really great changed their lives, and that to me, that's

1175
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 3: what it's all about. I'm not I'm not gonna cry

1176
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 3: over spilt milk. There's nothing you could do about even

1177
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: you know, people said, you know, the fight was stopped

1178
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 3: too early. You know, if I'm the ref, I'm not

1179
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 3: stopping to fight. No, I wouldn't have stopped the fight there.

1180
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 3: But I can't complain with it either, you know what

1181
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 3: I mean. But Aljiae was one hundred percent cohering in

1182
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 3: the right after the fight and right after the fight

1183
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 3: in the back, so you know, I would have liked

1184
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 3: to see that a little differently. But besides that, it's

1185
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 3: all good, man. We move on anything, we'll move on

1186
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 3: as a team, right.

1187
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 2: Any injuries that that Chris sustained from that last fight,

1188
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: obviously he took a lot of light kicks.

1189
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: Any anything else that that happened, uh that, you know,

1190
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: no injuries like that.

1191
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 3: I think the calf kicks, you know. Uh, you know,

1192
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 3: he wasn't walking. Both legs were beat up. So I

1193
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 3: don't think anything. I hope not. You know, he's gonna

1194
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 3: have to get that the leg he had the surgery on,

1195
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 3: you know, an m all right to make sure everything

1196
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: was all right. But uh, we'll see how that goes.

1197
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 3: But besides that, I think it was, you know, just

1198
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 3: the calf kicks, and look the way he fought through that.

1199
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 3: I thought, you know, most guys would have stopped. I think,

1200
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 3: oh yeah, he kept trying to make the fight. You know.

1201
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 6: So guy is so valiant and uh and just affable

1202
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 6: and lovable and just for him and his family, I'm

1203
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 6: just so happy there will be able to get through

1204
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 6: this experience. But I will say, in terms of the

1205
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 6: post fight visuals that I saw, the left knee was

1206
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 6: the one that Tavories primarily destroyed. He did a lot

1207
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 6: of damage to the right leg as well, the surgically

1208
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 6: repaired right leg ray. But the right leg was the

1209
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 6: one that was being iced and the left leg was not.

1210
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 6: And doctor Davidson seemed to intimate to Dana White, who

1211
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 6: said at the post by press conference that he thinks

1212
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 6: maybe there might be an ACL or an MCL or

1213
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 6: something the right knee, the right leg. I think Chris

1214
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 6: seems concerned about.

1215
00:59:58,360 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 3: No.

1216
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 4: No, is that he's crazy?

1217
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 3: No, that's not no, that's not true. What you said

1218
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 3: the ice was on the right leg. He had no

1219
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 3: ice on the left leg.

1220
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 4: And is a correct that's right?

1221
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 3: Oh you said the you said no, No, the left

1222
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 3: leg got a tech but he had no ice there,

1223
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 3: correct saying the ice was on the right, the surgical

1224
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 3: leg right, that's that's a that's a fact. Uh, saying

1225
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 3: the a c L is one hundred percent not torn.

1226
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: Good? Great?

1227
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 4: All right, Well, so I'm saying I.

1228
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 3: Don't know who who who made that because I didn't

1229
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 3: I unawaren that.

1230
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: I could be totally off base.

1231
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 6: But if you go watch Dana White's postfight press conference,

1232
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 6: I think there was some communication with the doctor, and

1233
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 6: I think Dana said, I forget which cl or something

1234
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 6: that maybe they could be concerned about. But yeah, he'll

1235
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 6: get an MRI and we'll see. But he was very

1236
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 6: clear about not wanting to retire, whether or not he

1237
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 6: was privy to Dana White's comments about wanting him to retire.

1238
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 6: I don't know, am I putting you on the spot

1239
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 6: if I if I ask you what you think about

1240
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 6: all of that stuff. I know you're not in the

1241
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 6: business of retiring your own fighters, but I don't mean

1242
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 6: to put you on the spot.

1243
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:17,479
Speaker 3: That's what's the question question?

1244
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 4: When you were going to ask what is your wife

1245
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 4: just them waiting to go home?

1246
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 3: You know what? Wait?

1247
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 4: Hold this, I don't know if he's here as well

1248
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 4: as film in here.

1249
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 3: Oh she's no, I'm not.

1250
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 4: I would like to let you people go home. I

1251
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 4: would like to let you people go home.

1252
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 3: Oh no, no no, but oh so wait, let me

1253
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 3: just get that.

1254
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 6: So Dane, you're connection starting out, Cody, Perhaps we can

1255
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 6: reconnect with this handsome godfather Ray Longo. His wife was

1256
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 6: about to come in. But I'd like to let these

1257
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 6: people go home. I mean, my goodness, this is really

1258
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 6: not going to help my public approval rating with the

1259
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 6: listenership that you know. These people all rushed from this

1260
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 6: very challenging weekend to the gym instead of their homes

1261
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 6: to do this silly little podcast. He's got a lot

1262
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 6: more patience than I do keeping this freeze frame right now. Yeah,

1263
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 6: He's like, give me a second to fix this.

1264
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: There we got, Yeah, baby, what do we got?

1265
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 3: I might not. I might be slap happy.

1266
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: Now we're done. We're done.

1267
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 4: We want to give you a chance for some final comments.

1268
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: Uh.

1269
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 6: I was very moved by al Jamain Sterling in our

1270
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 6: Fighter meeting talking about sort of the lack of parental

1271
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 6: support that he had as a kid and for his

1272
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 6: senior year of high school, like trying to beg his

1273
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 6: parents to show up for things, and he was very,

1274
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 6: very impacted in life by that lack of support.

1275
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 4: And uh, you know, I hope the fan base will

1276
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 4: just give the guy a fucking break.

1277
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 3: Well, he's got me the he'll show up at his

1278
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 3: graduation next time.

1279
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, hey, why don't you people go home?

1280
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 6: And much love to the wife and family and with

1281
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 6: an injury, and we wish you all the best. We'll

1282
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 6: talk to you next week, mad right, rest up?

1283
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'll see you next week. I got going

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01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 3: in for surgery this week, so say a prayer for me. Hey,

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01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 3: you s see me walking with the cake. Awesome guy.

1286
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 3: I love you guys. Man. It was unfortunately, it was

1287
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 3: a bad night, but obviously it's it's part of the game.

1288
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 3: And I'm happy for all the other people that you know,

1289
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 3: know what I went through with the happiness and yeah,

1290
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 3: it's it's it's all good. Enjoyed a moment showing with

1291
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 3: your team, and uh, you know, we'll see you there again.

1292
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 3: All right.

1293
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 6: We love you, buddy, We we wish you all. The

1294
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 6: bell called me in eight days. You're going to be great,

1295
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 6: so we'll see Okay.

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01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 3: Oh, she's the she's the best man really like her man.

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01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, there is the very long go minute

1298
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 6: every week here on the Anak and Florian Podcast.

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01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 4: My goodness, his wife's probably like, what is going on?

1300
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 4: Like have them send you a check?

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01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: Good?

1302
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 2: But I mean you got to think about it at

1303
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 2: that age, all right, because Ray Ray's been doing martial

1304
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: arts longer than we've been alive, you know. And then

1305
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 2: he's still doing this thing. He cornered in Boston. He

1306
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 2: drove five hours in New York. He's like, oh yeah, yeah,

1307
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 2: and by the way, we got to stop at the

1308
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 2: gym so I could do the podcast.

1309
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 3: His life's gonna be like are you kidding me?

1310
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: And he's still doing this at sixty whatever. I don't

1311
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: know how he is, but it's unbelievable.

1312
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 2: So Ray, thank you again, and uh, we'll be thinking

1313
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 2: of him as he's getting surgery on the hip this week.

1314
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: Yes, he's getting his hip orplacement.

1315
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 6: If you have seen him limping around and having a

1316
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 6: hard time, especially on the decline, you'll be very happy

1317
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 6: to know he's going to get fixed. And uh, guy's

1318
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 6: going to be a million bucks next week here on

1319
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 6: the Anak and Florian Podcast. All right, we have a

1320
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 6: lot more to get into when it comes to you two.

1321
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 6: I do want to go three wide and bring Big

1322
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 6: Gun Brian Petrie into the conversation because he's been waiting

1323
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 6: patiently as the New Yorkers work their way back to

1324
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 6: UH to Garden City.

1325
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: What's up, Big Gun?

1326
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 4: What's going on? Boys? What's going on? Boys?

1327
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 6: So we like that Peatrie Dulca Tunness a little bit

1328
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 6: later in the day, right now, there cigars all day.

1329
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 5: No kids start at school. I just I mean, these kids,

1330
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 5: they just get me sick every Oh God, it's crazy.

1331
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 5: But now we're doing O good. Just in my throat,

1332
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 5: We're all right, all right.

1333
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 6: So I'm going to go to you first on this,

1334
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 6: and then I want to hear ken Flows thoughts on

1335
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 6: Ian Mashadow Gary.

1336
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 4: But I do think there's an.

1337
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 6: Overreaching theme here when it comes to Ian Mashadow Gary

1338
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 6: and Sean O'Malley.

1339
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: There's connective tissue when it comes to.

1340
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 6: Them as strikers and how good and fast and skilled

1341
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 6: they are, and how coachable they are, and maybe how

1342
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 6: underestimated they are even by some sharp MMA minds out there.

1343
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 6: What were your thoughts on on Ian Gary and everything

1344
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 6: at this fight week and friction with Neil Magne Hill.

1345
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 5: So I love the friction when Neil Magnie didn't love

1346
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 5: the cage antics. I mean usually when when when you

1347
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,479
Speaker 5: can talk all the shit you won in the cage,

1348
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 5: let's squash it up. But I mean he said no

1349
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 5: that Neil magnet has come back.

1350
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: Listen.

1351
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 5: He looked great. I mean he measured in there. I

1352
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 5: thought I wanted to finish. You had a one leg

1353
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 5: fighter in there. I think there's a lot of Ian

1354
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 5: Gary haters because how comfid he is, and you know

1355
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 5: my friends especially or text me, how could he not

1356
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 5: finish with one leg?

1357
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: You know all that shit.

1358
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 5: But I thought he looked cerebral in there. I thought

1359
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 5: he looked good. I love to call out a wonder boy.

1360
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 5: I think that's a striker, a striker. I think that's

1361
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 5: a fun fight. I think that's a smart matchup for him.

1362
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,959
Speaker 5: Not many people I've outstruck wonder boy, and Ian Gary

1363
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 5: wants to be the best striker.

1364
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 4: He said it.

1365
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 5: So the leg kicks were I mean crazy, the first

1366
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 5: two putting Neil Magne in his ass and I'm holding

1367
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 5: a Neil magnetick and I go, oh, we're in some

1368
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 5: trouble here.

1369
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 4: He can't even take a leg kick without that put on.

1370
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 5: His butt, so we're in some trouble. But yeah, he

1371
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 5: looked fantastic. I mean, you know, I've always liked being Gary.

1372
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 5: This was a number play, but the number failed me

1373
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 5: this time. So what are you gonna do, Kenny?

1374
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 6: You know, oftentimes when it comes to criticism, I fall

1375
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 6: on the side of the fighter.

1376
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 3: You know.

1377
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 6: It seems like the New Hampshire and our producer Cody

1378
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 6: Merrow is coming out a little bit. I know. Daniel

1379
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 6: Cormier also was questioning on the broadcast that maybe Ian

1380
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 6: Mashadow Gary should have finished, but I thought he just

1381
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 6: was very methodical and didn't over risk and I mean

1382
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 6: he destroyed the guy. But even in his post flight

1383
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 6: interview with Joe Rode like the highest level guys, right.

1384
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 6: I don't know, man, I don't have an ounce of

1385
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 6: criticism for Ian. Gary not getting the finished thirty to

1386
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 6: twenty four for me is basically a finish.

1387
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:43,959
Speaker 1: I might be somewhere in the middle.

1388
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 3: Now.

1389
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 2: I picked Gary to win. I think that there's no

1390
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 2: question about it. He's got elite striking skills, absolutely, and

1391
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 2: I do think he could be elite in that division.

1392
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 2: But I guess I still stand where I did before

1393
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 2: and saying that I don't see the championship yet in

1394
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 2: his future, but I do see him being elite. And

1395
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 2: I think anytime you're able to dominate someone like Neil Magni,

1396
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: I think it's a great sign Magni has been there

1397
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 2: and done that. He has a ton of experience. He

1398
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 2: can be very awkward and difficult to go out there

1399
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 2: and beat, let alone dominate like Ian Gary did, so

1400
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 2: I think those are all phenomenal signs for Ian Gary

1401
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: and his team. I do think that there were opportunities

1402
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 2: for him to go out there and finish that fight.

1403
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 2: I think it would have been that much better for him,

1404
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 2: and I probably would have changed my mind a little

1405
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 2: bit on his ability to become a champion in the

1406
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 2: wealthweight division, just because to me that that's more sign

1407
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 2: of a guy who is I know, mastering his craft right,

1408
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 2: and I think that Ian Gary felt a little bit

1409
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 2: short of that. But as far as all the tools,

1410
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 2: the weapons, everything he was using, and how he even

1411
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: started it off by weakening Neil Magni, I thought it

1412
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 2: was phenomenal. And you know, here's a kid who who's

1413
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 2: definitely a big for the division, knows how to use it,

1414
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 2: and I just thought that he had more opportunities to

1415
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 2: go out there and finish.

1416
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: I was with d C on some of that.

1417
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 2: Not always easy to do though way easier for us

1418
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:15,560
Speaker 2: to say that from the outside looking in. But I

1419
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 2: did think that when you see the disparity and skill

1420
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 2: between Gary and Magni, you probably would have liked to

1421
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 2: see him close the door on that fight. But sometimes

1422
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 2: it just doesn't happen.

1423
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 6: There's still a lot of unknowns when it comes to

1424
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 6: the grappling of both Sean O'Malley and Ian Mushado Gary,

1425
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 6: And I think for Shan O'Malley, he certainly would have

1426
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 6: liked to have had the intel of maybe getting taken

1427
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,560
Speaker 6: down by Aljamn Sterling and feeling that and having the

1428
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 6: opportunity Kenny right to get back up. But Mushad o'gary

1429
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 6: is going to have roots in Brazil. He's still going

1430
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 6: to be rooted at kill Cliff FC with all of

1431
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,919
Speaker 6: the best welter weights in the world. I think depending

1432
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 6: on the stylist he's fighting, he may bounce around a

1433
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 6: little bit. This kid's on the fast track at twenty

1434
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 6: five years old, and I do think there's going to

1435
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 6: come a time on the Antic and Florian podcast, even

1436
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 6: if he has suffered a loss at that point in time,

1437
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 6: if the show's still going on, that Kenny's going to

1438
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 6: say I now see world championship potential in Ian Mischadogary

1439
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 6: because it's twenty five years old, became a judo black

1440
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 6: belt at eighteen. He's just not going to be denied.

1441
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,799
Speaker 6: He's just not going to be denied. And that's promotional hyperbole.

1442
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 6: I really think the kid's gonna get there. But again,

1443
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 6: there are a lot of unknowns. It looks as though

1444
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 6: Dana Kenny wants to go November Madison Square Garden for

1445
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,759
Speaker 6: Ian Gary. Presumably that would be Stephen Warner Boy Thompson

1446
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 6: and then a headlining spot in Dublin, Ireland in twenty

1447
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 6: twenty four. So I would be absolutely stunned if September,

1448
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 6: if we don't see Ian Mischaddogary and see water Boy

1449
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 6: Thompson in less than three months live on pay per

1450
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 6: view at MSG AH.

1451
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: That's a great fight, that's a phenomenal fight.

1452
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 6: Makes a lot of sense, all right, So Marlon Chito

1453
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 6: Vera over Pedro Muno's by unanimous decision, Mario Bautista by demand,

1454
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 6: Black Sheeer by unanum's decision. Those were there to bantamweight fights.

1455
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 6: Cry on the on the pay per view main card.

1456
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 6: I really like this Baptista cat. You know, Black Cheer

1457
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 6: got off to a pretty good start in that fight.

1458
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 6: Anything for us my man on either of those two

1459
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 6: fights in terms of this vandam weight heavy pay per

1460
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 6: view main card last weekend.

1461
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought that Bimuna's fight was a lot closer

1462
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 5: than maybe some people gave it credit for.

1463
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 4: I thought Pedro was really in there.

1464
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 5: I thought that was I saw some Twitter people actually

1465
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 5: giving it to Paedro obviously, but a very close fight.

1466
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 5: I mean Pedro was wearing it. The Cheeto hits different

1467
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 5: and Bautista, Yeah, this is the guy who came in

1468
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 5: the UFC with a lot of hype, comes from a

1469
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 5: great camp, and then had some setbacks, and he's out

1470
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 5: there finding a guy who's very tough to look good

1471
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 5: against on short notice, who just pulled a twister off

1472
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 5: and he showed, he showed well.

1473
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 4: There was a minute in the second round.

1474
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, Batista slowing down a little bit here

1475
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 5: he got a second win and won that third round

1476
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 5: and looked great. You know, Black Cheer's corner thought he

1477
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 5: was up two rounds. I didn't love that advice, but

1478
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 5: uh yeah, Batista is something I'm really going to keep

1479
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,560
Speaker 5: my eron. I really thought he was going to showcase

1480
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 5: his overall skill and maybe put a name if you

1481
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 5: would have got the Cody fight, if Cody nimpulled out,

1482
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 5: because I know Cody Garbrand is still He's not maybe

1483
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 5: elite anymore, but he's still a name. And I thought

1484
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 5: Batista could have really shown out in that fight. But

1485
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 5: I thought he looked great. I mean, I'm most guy's

1486
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 5: a limit for HiMAT at that weight, and uh yeah,

1487
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 5: I can't wait to see him matched up. I mean,

1488
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 5: one thirty five is just an absolute shark tank right now.

1489
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 6: Can flow a stylistic flip up for sure for Mario

1490
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 6: Bautista going from Cody Garbrand to DeMont Black Share. Not

1491
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 6: sure if you have anything on Baptista or Cheato Vera

1492
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 6: or or either of those two.

1493
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 4: Pay per view fights before I moved to a few

1494
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 4: other things.

1495
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought Bautista made some great adjustments in that fight.

1496
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 2: I thought I thought the second round could have been

1497
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 2: for Demon Black Share By the way, I'm not sure

1498
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: you tell your fight or that when it's that close

1499
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 2: of around, because you don't want to give up any

1500
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 2: rounds in this sport, right, But there's no way I

1501
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 2: would have been I would not have.

1502
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: Been confident in telling him that, that's for sure.

1503
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 2: But it was a close fight. But still Bartisa stu

1504
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 2: he's a stud man thought. I thought he made great adjustments,

1505
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,799
Speaker 2: was able to stop a lot of those takedown attempts,

1506
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 2: showed that he is an excellent grappler in his own right.

1507
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: And yeah, it was cool.

1508
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 2: And the other fight you were talking about Cheetah, Yes, yeah,

1509
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 2: Cheeto and Munios. That was another close one, you know, Cheeto.

1510
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 2: I thought, again, this was just a classic Cheeto Vera fight, right,

1511
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 2: It's like this slow start, builds up, gets stronger, finds

1512
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 2: his rhythm in the third round, then like decimates his guy.

1513
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was good. I thought it was a

1514
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 2: really good performance for Cheeto Vera. I think Cheeto fundamentally

1515
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 2: needs to take his footwork to another level if he

1516
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 2: wants to be a champion in that insane division. And

1517
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 2: it might be his next one, right, he might fight

1518
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 2: Cheron O'Malley next, and that plotting style, it's what allows

1519
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 2: him to hit so damn hard.

1520
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: But he's gotta be bouncy. He's got to be in

1521
01:13:58,640 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: and out.

1522
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 2: He's got to be way more dynamic with his footwork

1523
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 2: if he wants to be a world champion. I think,

1524
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 2: if you want to, I guess sway the odds more

1525
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 2: in his favor, I should say, because his power is phenomenal,

1526
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 2: no question about that. I thought his hands looked much

1527
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 2: improved in this fight. He is making improvements. It didn't

1528
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 2: seem like he took any deep breast during that bite,

1529
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 2: despite the right face, and yeah, just Cheeto doing Cheeto

1530
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 2: things and great win for him in a big spot.

1531
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 2: I saw value in Munno's I went forward and fit

1532
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 2: all right.

1533
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 6: A couple of other things that I want to get

1534
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 6: into on UFC two ninety two and big on Brian Peach.

1535
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 6: Commitment of the show is not lost on us. I

1536
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 6: appreciate the extendent love of that. I want to get

1537
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:47,759
Speaker 6: to the Brads, Tabors and Katona print the shirts always

1538
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 6: bet on Cardio. Brad Katona reponizing Cardio right, this kid

1539
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 6: is impressive man like.

1540
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 1: An acquired taste.

1541
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 6: Maybe right, maybe you don't want to like go break

1542
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 6: red with him, I think, all right, but Ken fel

1543
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 6: like Kenny, this kid is really right, right, This kid

1544
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 6: is really tough and really good and like tough just

1545
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 6: doesn't get tired. And Cody Gibson just a hungry, hungry

1546
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 6: fight and the Stephan Bonner Forrest Griffin comparisons are not

1547
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 6: lost on me.

1548
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 4: Kenny, like this was.

1549
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,560
Speaker 6: Jason Knight Mississippi Means suggested this is one of the

1550
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 6: best fights in UFC history, and I don't necessarily need

1551
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,600
Speaker 6: to go there, but Kenny, this fight was was outstanding,

1552
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 6: and I just think it speaks to the stakes and

1553
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 6: the commitment and the thirteen week training camp and everything.

1554
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: Else, non stop back and forth.

1555
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 2: And you know, I think what Joe Rogan was saying

1556
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 2: when he said this is a fight, ladies and gentlemen,

1557
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 2: was that, you know, you go to that dark place

1558
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 2: in your soul and your heart when you're in a

1559
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 2: fight like that, where you're like, this isn't about who

1560
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 2: wins this round or who wins this fight, like you're

1561
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 2: fighting for your life. That was kind of the sense

1562
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 2: that I got when these guys were fighting. It felt

1563
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 2: like a street fight. And so in a lot of

1564
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 2: ways it looked like a street fight. Wasn't the most

1565
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 2: technical fight in the world, but man, these guys were

1566
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 2: trying to take each other out every single second. The

1567
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 2: pace to start that fight was insane, and Katona, you know,

1568
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 2: just slowly started pulling away from round after round, just

1569
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 2: stayed more active, was lanting some really clean shots, and

1570
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 2: Gibson was just fading.

1571
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 7: Man.

1572
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 2: He was throwing a lot of arm punches, and I

1573
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 2: think efficiency got the better of him, or a lack

1574
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 2: thereof got the better of him there.

1575
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: But Katona man came in shape and it was just

1576
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: an action packed fight because of it.

1577
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 4: Brian, when you got kid, yeah, this is my mortar lock.

1578
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:41,560
Speaker 4: I have brackettona.

1579
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 5: This is the last line that came out because it

1580
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 5: got you know, we didn't know until Tuesday. He opened

1581
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 5: at minus one seventy five. I loaded up on that

1582
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 5: went down a one seven, loaded up again. I thought

1583
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 5: he was gonna win a completely different way. I thought

1584
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 5: he was gonna grapple and beat up Cody, because before

1585
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 5: Cody went on the show, he fought Ray Bordon got

1586
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 5: taken down like seven times.

1587
01:16:58,560 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 4: He has that problem.

1588
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 5: He dave against au Dreamine Sterling in the UFC was

1589
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 5: getting taken down and and Brad said, no, no, we're

1590
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 5: gonna stand up.

1591
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna bang it out.

1592
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 5: I mean he went for like some takedowns but never

1593
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 5: really commit it. And uh, just a toughness of both

1594
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 5: those guys. Such a back and forth fight. Brad had

1595
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 5: a huge weld inside his head. And then Cody I know,

1596
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know. I'm not a doctor, but

1597
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 5: he broke his eye orbital for sure, and there was

1598
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 5: a minute where he was like, oh shit, this killed

1599
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 5: I might quit.

1600
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 4: And then said no, fuck that, here's an uppercut.

1601
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the toughness of those guys and even yeah,

1602
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 5: I mean it just you know, that's a fight that

1603
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 5: I did not expect that to happen. I thought Katona

1604
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 5: would would grapple and win that way because that's usually

1605
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 5: his game, and was pleasant and surprise to see them

1606
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,799
Speaker 5: just go out and bang it out, old school tough finale,

1607
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 5: which I felt like we haven't got that in a while,

1608
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 5: and it.

1609
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 4: Was It was awesome.

1610
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: I love it.

1611
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,759
Speaker 6: Cod Gibson's inner monologue is like, man, my orbital floor

1612
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 6: is shattered, but if I tough it out, I'll get

1613
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 6: fifty grand and maybe a UFC contract, and that's exactly

1614
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 6: what he got. He got the UFC contract, which is rare,

1615
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 6: and he also got the fifty thousand dollars bonus.

1616
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 4: So congrats to both Brad Cottona and Cody Gibson.

1617
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 6: We also acknowledged Kurt Hallabau not Halla bah Hallabo, thirty

1618
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,759
Speaker 6: six years of age, was zero four in the UFC.

1619
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 6: Didn't believe this third UFC stint was going to materialize.

1620
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 6: Now he's the ultimate fighter. He is in and you

1621
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 6: know he's a Brazilian Jiu jitsu black belt pressure striker

1622
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,560
Speaker 6: and that's a really big win for him and I

1623
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 6: wouldn't be surprised to see him do a little bit

1624
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 6: of damage there at one hundred and fifty five pounds

1625
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 6: and then real quick can flow on Brad Tavores. Chris

1626
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 6: Wyman was the story and I just love the way

1627
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 6: Brad Tavoras handled this entire week. He certainly was fighting

1628
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 6: for his home state of Hawaii with all of the

1629
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 6: devastation going on there, but he also had no time

1630
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 6: for questions about whether or not Wibman was going to

1631
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 6: open with a leg kick like he was primal he

1632
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 6: was business like, he was no nonsense, and I thought

1633
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 6: it was an exceptional performance for a guy who's twenty

1634
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 6: three fights into his UFC career.

1635
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 2: Well, he was set up to be the asshole, right

1636
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 2: because either he goes out and loses or he beats

1637
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 2: the guy who broke his legs. It was a tough

1638
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 2: spot to be in, but I thought he played it

1639
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 2: right mentally leading into that fight. I think he was

1640
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 2: saying the right things for him and his family, right

1641
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 2: It's like, who cares about that guy's story. I'm trying

1642
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 2: to win and save my career here and put some

1643
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 2: food on the table. And I thought that he came

1644
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 2: in with that right mindset. And a Hawaiian is never

1645
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 2: going to back away.

1646
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 1: From a fight. Okay.

1647
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 2: I've been watching Tavares a long time. He's always been humble,

1648
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:28,839
Speaker 2: He's always been a hard worker. I've seen major major

1649
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 2: improvements in his game since his first UFC fight to

1650
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 2: where he was at now.

1651
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 1: Maybe not in his prime right now, his chin perhaps not.

1652
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 2: What it used to be, but look look at the

1653
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 2: row of killers that he has faced over the course

1654
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 2: of the course of his career. Again, just staying true

1655
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,639
Speaker 2: to that, you know, Hawaiian nature. He will never say

1656
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 2: no to any fight out there. And I also got

1657
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 2: to mention, you know, I don't always look at the comments.

1658
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 2: I was looking at some comments Someone's like, you know,

1659
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:58,839
Speaker 2: Kenny saying Tavar's is a big middleweight.

1660
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: What is he talking about? Uh? You know, he's only

1661
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: five eleven. Did you see his legs? Have you seen

1662
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 1: his legs?

1663
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 2: And didn't He used to fight at two oh five,

1664
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 2: by the way, But you know, I think that uh,

1665
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 2: you know, when you see a guy with that kind

1666
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 2: of build uh and those legs, you have to you

1667
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 2: have to know those leg kicks are coming, especially given

1668
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 2: the injury, and you know Tavares is so good at

1669
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 2: setting them up, you know, working with the great race Cefo.

1670
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 2: He was just on point, did all the right things,

1671
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 2: and I again, I think all the superlatives were right

1672
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 2: on point with his counter wrestling, his ability to stop

1673
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 2: those takedowns. Chris Widman is not an easy guy to stop,

1674
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 2: especially up against the cage. He had all the right

1675
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 2: answers there.

1676
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 7: Uh.

1677
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 1: Congratulations to Brat Tavares.

1678
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 6: He was a star middle linebacker in high school. You

1679
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 6: don't get there by accident. He's a tremendous athlete. He's

1680
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 6: an absolute hass and uh yeah, he's been in there

1681
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 6: with Joel Romero and Robert Whitaker, and uh, just feel

1682
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 6: good for a really good dude, and uh, you know,

1683
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 6: it's like he's a father in his own right, and

1684
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 6: I just think his ability to stay focused amidst all

1685
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 6: of that noise and especially the Hawaii stuff as well.

1686
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 6: Just wanted to do a little hat tit there to

1687
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 6: Brad Tabora's congrats Gregory Rodriguez. You know, the elbows perhaps

1688
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 6: somewhat controversial to some. You know, Ken Flows just such

1689
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 6: a violent motherfucker in his head that he's probably like, yeah,

1690
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 6: I'll just kidding, But Gregory Rodriguez one of my Institute

1691
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 6: of Human Performance teammates, so we congratulate him. Just a

1692
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 6: great night for the mixed bachalots and combat sports leader.

1693
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 6: UFC two ninety two largest gate in the history of

1694
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 6: TV Garden for a non Stanley Cup Final or NBA

1695
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 6: Finals game, and these UFC live events as commodities just

1696
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 6: absolutely absurd right now, all right, Kenny, am I missing

1697
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 6: anything else?

1698
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 1: No, we got to move on.

1699
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 6: We got some predictions UFC's going to be in Singapore,

1700
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 6: and you know, if you like coffee and you like

1701
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 6: combat together, that's your reality. This Saturday, August twenty sixth,

1702
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 6: Main card, eight am Eastern on ESPN plus UFC Fight

1703
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,759
Speaker 6: Night from Singapore. It is Holloway versus the Korean Zombie

1704
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:59,560
Speaker 6: this year is our main event challenge. And guys, you

1705
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 6: know what I've been burning in it all ends. I

1706
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 6: don't have the updated standings, but what I can tell

1707
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 6: you Kenlo had three units on I in the Shadow Gary.

1708
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 6: He also had two units on al Jamaine Sterling, So

1709
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 6: all things considered, it was a good week for Kenny Florian.

1710
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 6: Well no, yeah, Sterling, that didn't hit. But yeah, and

1711
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 6: you didn't miss on Pedro Munyo, so maybe not as

1712
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 6: good a week as possible.

1713
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 4: Take this stand so we'll get them all right.

1714
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 6: We have some predictions today and part of the reason

1715
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 6: we're picking this preliminary fight at all of these odds.

1716
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 6: By the way, courtesy of DraftKings Sportsbook. Heavyweight Division. I

1717
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 6: think there's an interesting angle here between Junior Tafa and

1718
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 6: Parker Porter, and it's very close on the money line,

1719
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 6: so big gun, Brian Petrie and I like seeing your

1720
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 6: face now as we go all right, Cody doing a

1721
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 6: nice shop directing with cameras today. Justin Taffa's brother, Junior

1722
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 6: taugh A minus one twenty two packa porta plus one

1723
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 6: oh two Porterhouse coming off a wind. Yeah, that might

1724
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 6: not be a bad nickname, Parker Porterhouse.

1725
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 4: I like the steakhouse for him.

1726
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 5: I mean, this guy's got a rip. He's got to

1727
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 5: open a steakhouse. I've been saying it for years. That's

1728
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 5: that's that's right, Yeah, that's right.

1729
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 6: So he's coming off a win over Braxton Smith at

1730
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 6: UFC two eighty eight, not all that long ago. That

1731
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 6: came on the heels of a loss to Justin Tafa

1732
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 6: I knock out in Perth in February of this year.

1733
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 6: So now he tries the younger brother, Junior, who has

1734
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 6: four and one. Dropped his UFC debut Jimo Ousman back

1735
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 6: on April twenty two. Brian Petree, who do you have?

1736
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been hearing a lot about Junior Tafa. Junior

1737
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 5: Tafa I loaded up on him blindly kicks. You know Mosman,

1738
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 5: you know has been hurt before, he has been knocked

1739
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 5: out before, and he I was like, WHOA, I should

1740
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 5: have done tape study I shouldn't. He did not look

1741
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 5: good against Mousman. He had chances to win and he

1742
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 5: rushed everything. He has no takedown of fence yet he's

1743
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 5: obviously young working on it. Looks exactly like his brother,

1744
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 5: by the way, which is uncanny. And Parker Porter doesn't

1745
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 5: go from as many takedowns as I like. He beat

1746
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 5: Braxton Smith, who was on you know, allegedly. I saw

1747
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 5: some articles. I think he is suspended right now. He

1748
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 5: was on a lot of that Grandpa's cough medicine, you know,

1749
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 5: I mean the illegal stuff, and he was jacked to

1750
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 5: the tits and Park Reporter took him out. That's a

1751
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 5: one round fighter who was ready to knock him out

1752
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 5: one round. That's what Junior Tafa has here. He's a

1753
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 5: little slickering Braxton Smith obviously, but I think Park Reporter,

1754
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:15,719
Speaker 5: with those legs and just just everything with his size,

1755
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 5: if he gets him down, it's over. I think that's

1756
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 5: Park Reporter. The steakhouse is going to have to do,

1757
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 5: and I think he flays. You see that dead right now, babe.

1758
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 4: Junior Tafa had a dog money.

1759
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take it. Give me Park Reporter. I'm not

1760
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 5: good picking heavyweights. But I mean plus money on a

1761
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 5: guy who did not look good. I'm gonna get the

1762
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:35,879
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the steakhouts.

1763
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 4: Give it to me, Brian.

1764
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 6: Have you and Erica Petrie talked about the use of

1765
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 6: testosterone or human growth hormone in advance of your pro

1766
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 6: Mixed Martial arts stadium.

1767
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 5: So I got to get a physical every year. I

1768
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 5: have high tea, so I don't know if I take

1769
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 5: testoshro and what what?

1770
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 1: Ah is high?

1771
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 5: Which I did not think because I can't grow face away.

1772
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, no, it's low, it's low. Another lady is like, no,

1773
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 5: it's it's borderline high, like it might be a problem.

1774
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,679
Speaker 5: I'm like, fuck, all right, well that's that's out.

1775
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: Do you want to do some e p O or

1776
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: for your cardio or.

1777
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 4: Do I have to look into it my cardios and

1778
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 4: jammels right now? I'm I, ah, maybe we'll do some

1779
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 4: e p O for your cardio or.

1780
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking.

1781
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 4: Is not going to test you for e p O?

1782
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 4: Then maybe we'll fucking do some blood dopen.

1783
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 1: You is going to go off the rails quickly. I

1784
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:28,640
Speaker 1: love it.

1785
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 6: I didn't eat till like four thirty in the morning,

1786
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 6: you know, I did take a little bit of a

1787
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:38,799
Speaker 6: nap today. That's interesting, all right, Ken Junior, Tafa Parker

1788
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 6: Porter House, which way go a little.

1789
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 1: E po little meth for cardio. Yeah, yeah, we're the

1790
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 1: coaches you need, bro right, we got you right.

1791
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 3: I love it.

1792
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:55,639
Speaker 1: Sponsored by the Flora Podcast. I love it, dude. Listen,

1793
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm with I'm with I'm with Brian here. Listen.

1794
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 2: When I see you guys that are capable of either

1795
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 2: knocking the other one out or it's little too close,

1796
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 2: I'm always gonna lean towards the underdog and Brian's right.

1797
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 3: Man.

1798
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 2: If Porter's able to take this fight to the ground,

1799
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 2: which I think he has, he can take people down.

1800
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 2: He can't get on top. He has decent ground, certainly

1801
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 2: better than Tafa here. He likes to get people up

1802
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 2: against the cage. When he does have a grappling heavy

1803
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:24,679
Speaker 2: game plan. He get up, He gets him up against

1804
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 2: the cage. He looks for those singles and doubles, gets

1805
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 2: on top, has good ground and pound, could get good position.

1806
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 2: I think that's what he needs to do here. Taf

1807
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,600
Speaker 2: has got some power too, no question about it, but

1808
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 2: I think at this stage of the game he lacks

1809
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 2: that experience in making good game time decisions, so he

1810
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 2: could win this fight, but I'm gonna lean towards Porter

1811
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 2: here as well.

1812
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 1: All right.

1813
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 6: Next up high stakes in the women's flyweight division, Aaron

1814
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 6: Blansfield minus one forty eight title as Santos plus one

1815
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 6: twenty four. Blansfield the American will not be twenty five

1816
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 6: until May. Wow eleven and one went over Jessica and

1817
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 6: Rage and what was a main event back in February.

1818
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 6: She's five and zero in the UFC Brye and now

1819
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 6: John's the former world title challenger. Tyler Santos, the Brazilian

1820
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:12,680
Speaker 6: is not fought since she challenged Valentina Chefchenko in Singapore

1821
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:13,719
Speaker 6: last June.

1822
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 4: Who do you have here?

1823
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 1: Big fight? Yeah?

1824
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 5: So we you know, a lot of times will label

1825
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 5: like we label bo Nickel him, he's him, right. I

1826
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 5: think Aaron Blanstiel is her. I think she's her. I

1827
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 5: think she is that good. I'm ready for her to

1828
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 5: slip up at twenty four years old, but she's so

1829
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,719
Speaker 5: committed to this game. I follow on Instagram and literally

1830
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 5: she is she's She's I'm getting a crush on her,

1831
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 5: not physically, but just the way she trains and physically

1832
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 5: because he's pretty.

1833
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 1: But I'm just sorrying I.

1834
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 6: Dropped your wife's name and like two minutes later. I mean,

1835
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 6: I know you guys sometimes sit down and watch the show.

1836
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 1: You al my wife my wife.

1837
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 5: If you go to Joe Burrow's Instagram, every fucking picture

1838
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,679
Speaker 5: of Burrow is like by my wife. So I'm okay

1839
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 5: with that. She's gonna be okay with this. I think

1840
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 5: she's fantastic, she's great. I mean, dere fight, she stood

1841
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 5: up on on Drogs and then she got on to

1842
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 5: the ground. And if you look at Aaron Blainsfield's last

1843
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 5: couple fights, one takedown, one takedown, because that's all it

1844
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 5: fucking takes. I think Tylas Santos is very good. She

1845
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 5: look great against Chevchenko, very close fight, she landed her

1846
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:14,679
Speaker 5: own takedown.

1847
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 4: She's big, she's strong in there. But again, I'm ready

1848
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 4: for it to go off the rails.

1849
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 5: In this low number out of Aaron Blainsfield, which I

1850
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 5: would pay twice the number on this, I'm loving it.

1851
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 5: The only reason I'm not going unit heavy, the only

1852
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 5: reason I'm not putting the nuts on the table right now.

1853
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 5: So I like a bet later in the card. But

1854
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 5: I love Aaron Blairs in the spot. I think she's

1855
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 5: gonna win. I think she could even finish. That'd be

1856
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 5: four finishes in a row, and then at that point

1857
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 5: you just got you just gotta throw in there. I

1858
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 5: know she's young, but that's a title shot if she

1859
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 5: can finish Tylasantos, in my opinion, give me Aaron Blainsfield Kenny.

1860
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 6: With respect to Tyler Santos, I thought Aaron Blanchfield would

1861
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 6: be minus two fifty as opposed to minus one fifty

1862
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 6: or so. You got number three and number four at

1863
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty five pounds. We mentioned also both

1864
01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 6: prominently featured on the UFC's pound for pound list huge

1865
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 6: huge eliminator at one twenty five.

1866
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 4: We need your prediction.

1867
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 2: You know what you can't forget here is that Tyla

1868
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 2: Santos is a very good fighter. I think that she's

1869
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 2: a very good striker, and I think she'll probably be

1870
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:17,719
Speaker 2: the cleaner striker than Aaron Blanchfield out there. Doesn't necessarily

1871
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 2: mean she's going to win, but she has her weapons.

1872
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 2: She has her tools, and they are relatively sharp. She's

1873
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 2: also not too shabby on the ground either. When she's

1874
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 2: able to take the back get positions. She's very good

1875
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 2: at taking the back. Is she as good as Blanchfield

1876
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 2: on the ground.

1877
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 3: No.

1878
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:35,640
Speaker 2: I think Blanchefield positionally is going to be superior and

1879
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 2: it's probably where this fight ends up. And because of that,

1880
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 2: I think Blanchfield is going to be able to outposition

1881
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 2: Tyla Santos, just wear her down over time and then

1882
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 2: ultimately either get a tikio or.

1883
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 1: Get some kind of submission. Now, this is the fight.

1884
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 2: This is a perfect fight that Aaron should take after

1885
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 2: that excellent win over someone like Goddras. You know she

1886
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 2: was calling for Sevchenko. I said too early. This is

1887
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 2: the right fight at this point in her career, with

1888
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 2: her experience, with her age.

1889
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 1: I love it.

1890
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 2: This is the path towards towards that championship opportunity. And

1891
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:12,560
Speaker 2: I don't think it's an easy fight at all, but

1892
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 2: I do. I do like Blanchefield here. I think if

1893
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 2: she can connect her striking in with their entries get

1894
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 2: there safely, I think she wins this fight.

1895
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 4: Nicely done, kid, nicely done, all right.

1896
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 6: Next up, big fight at Fethaweit ninth rant Giga Chi

1897
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 6: Kadze minus two thirty eight taking out Number fifteen Alice Cassras,

1898
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 6: who is plus one ninety five. Giga was to face

1899
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 6: Sadik Usaf last September. He was he was forced to

1900
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 6: withdraws entering. Supposedly he's had a hard time. Has Giga

1901
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 6: get in a fight since that Sadik use to fight

1902
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 6: fell off? So here we are nearly a year later,

1903
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 6: Bri and he DROs Cassras, who's been on an absolute tair,

1904
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 6: winning seven of eight to reach the top fifteen.

1905
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 4: Who do you have here?

1906
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1907
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 5: I mean rugually worse. Alex Sarah's been around forever. He's

1908
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 5: a good striker. He's hard to put away. The guys

1909
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 5: have put him away, usually generally on the ground, but

1910
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 5: I think Giga is just on a different level.

1911
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 4: I'm a fan of this guy.

1912
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 5: I was saying earlier this week, Oh, he got dog

1913
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 5: walked by Cater, which he kind of did. He got

1914
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 5: fucked up by Cater, but I want to watch the fight.

1915
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 5: He landed one hundred and eighteen strikes and Cater went

1916
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 5: like he gave up and rolled over. Caterer definitely won

1917
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 5: the fight and dropped him a few times. But Giga

1918
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 5: laying at strikes. This guy's an elite kickbox or elite striker.

1919
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 5: That Giga kick to your liver is brutal, and I

1920
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,799
Speaker 5: think you know, with Casarrasie, I think it's a perfect matchup.

1921
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 5: This is exactly who he should have came back from

1922
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,640
Speaker 5: with a year off or longer than that, after the

1923
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 5: beating he took from cater Rest, the brain rest, everything.

1924
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:39,600
Speaker 5: Cassara's might want to mix up some takedowns, but I

1925
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 5: don't love his takedowns. He kind of clinches, wants to

1926
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 5: put you against the cage and kind of body lock

1927
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,680
Speaker 5: take you down. Giga has worked on that, that's primarily

1928
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 5: his thing. Early in his career, you could take him down.

1929
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 5: He is since as rectified that. But his striking I

1930
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 5: think is just beautiful with his hands and his kicks,

1931
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 5: more so of his kicks, but I think his hands

1932
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:58,679
Speaker 5: are working the time off. I'm not afraid of minus

1933
01:31:58,720 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 5: two forty five.

1934
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 3: I'm not afraid of.

1935
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 5: So gimme Giga here. I like him big as well.

1936
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm seeing it just so goddamn goodness.

1937
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:07,639
Speaker 5: Click that when I go over.

1938
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying I.

1939
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 6: Like Giga here, and I think he maybe even get

1940
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 6: a finish here. I think he's back all right, fear

1941
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 6: is not a factor for Brian Petrie. Alice Sarah's on

1942
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 6: the other side, can flow. He's won two in a row,

1943
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,600
Speaker 6: defeated Daniel Pineda back on June third. He's fought like

1944
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 6: twenty eight times in the UFC.

1945
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 1: Crazy.

1946
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 4: What do you think about this one? One hundred and

1947
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 4: forty five pounds skin?

1948
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:30,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is a perfect fight for Geeka.

1949
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 2: As Brian alluded to, I think Cassara's has shown great improvements,

1950
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 2: I think mentally, spiritually, technically, he's looking phenomenal on a

1951
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 2: two fight win streak right now. Over two you know,

1952
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 2: decently tough guys, and it's great to see that at

1953
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 2: this point of his career. But this is a really

1954
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 2: tough matchup for him at Giga. I just don't think

1955
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,680
Speaker 2: he's gonna be able to take him down, you know,

1956
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 2: at this stage of the game. I think Giga has

1957
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 2: improved significantly in that and that modality, and I think

1958
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 2: that Giga's kicked to the ribs are just an absolute problem.

1959
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 2: You know what's coming, but it's very difficult to stop.

1960
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,560
Speaker 2: It's very unusual in that he's not attacking you with

1961
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 2: the shin of the rib. He's attacking you by digging

1962
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 2: those damn toes into your ribs and he's going to

1963
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 2: touch an organ and it's not gonna be nice. So

1964
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 2: I like giga here and let's go with give me

1965
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 2: five UNISO live unit trigger by Kenny.

1966
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 6: God Say eleven hundred and ninety dollars bets to yield

1967
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 6: the five hundred. You guys get out of bedtime when

1968
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 6: we go primetime on a Sunday night, or maybe you'd

1969
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 6: like doing bedtime. I don't know, So I'm getting out

1970
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:46,680
Speaker 6: of bedtime right now.

1971
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 1: I ask my job out of that top.

1972
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's fine, it's absolutely fine. All right, comin

1973
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:53,640
Speaker 4: event kemp flow. We're gonna lead with you here.

1974
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 6: It's a light heavyweight rematch Ryan Span minus one forty

1975
01:33:56,600 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 6: eight Anthony Lionheart Smith plus one twenty four. So Smith

1976
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 6: took the first meeting. It was September of twenty twenty one.

1977
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 6: He did so by submission just three minutes and forty

1978
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 6: seven seconds into the fight. Since he has lost too

1979
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 6: in a row high level competition, there's heat on this

1980
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 6: matchup as well.

1981
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:11,679
Speaker 1: Kenny.

1982
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 6: Very interesting fight relevant fight of two hundred and five

1983
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 6: pounds Span or Smith for you, Ken will awesome.

1984
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:19,640
Speaker 3: All right.

1985
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 2: Under normal circumstances, I would feel bad about not putting

1986
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 2: the kids to bed, but especially me being away. But

1987
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 2: I cooked dinner for the first time in my life

1988
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:31,680
Speaker 2: in my career. Guys, whoa, we can put that in Yeah, actually.

1989
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:33,679
Speaker 1: Night that tonight, tonight tonight.

1990
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:37,600
Speaker 2: The next time ever, I did a little little cheeseburger

1991
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:39,920
Speaker 2: like top it was.

1992
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 1: It was pretty basic, but it was delicious. It was

1993
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 1: sepl but the kids liked it. It was good. Was impressed.

1994
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 1: So anyways, for me, that's that's a big deal. All right.

1995
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 1: So let's see Ryan's been Anthony Smith.

1996
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 2: Uh, Anthony Smith has probably and hopefully Brian agrees, one

1997
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 2: of the most difficult guys to rely on.

1998
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:01,760
Speaker 1: Right.

1999
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 2: It's like, I love Anthony. He's a great analytical mind.

2000
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 2: He knows the sport very well. He's got some great skills.

2001
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 2: But on fight night, man, it is like throwing dice unfortunately,

2002
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,599
Speaker 2: and I think that, you know, he can be really hot,

2003
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 2: he can be really cold. I have no idea what's

2004
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 2: going to happen, and I don't know where he's at

2005
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,639
Speaker 2: at this stage of his career. And I didn't love

2006
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 2: his last fight. To me, it seemed like he just

2007
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 2: didn't want to be out there, and I wonder if

2008
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 2: he wants to be out here against Ryan Span, he'd

2009
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:34,720
Speaker 2: better be And if he is, hey, he could absolutely

2010
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 2: win this fight on the feet or on the ground.

2011
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 2: But Ryan Span is an extremely dangerous guy on the

2012
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 2: feet and on the ground, more so on the feet positionally.

2013
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 2: He may suffer from some issues on the ground maybe,

2014
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 2: but he's still very dangerous. He's got some good submissions,

2015
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 2: he's got some good ground and pound, but BOYD does

2016
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 2: his power worry me against someone like Anthony Smith. And also,

2017
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 2: Anthony doesn't quite solve the issue of CAF kicks or

2018
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,680
Speaker 2: leg kicks in general. And I think that's something that

2019
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 2: Ryan Span is probably going to try to expose here

2020
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:11,599
Speaker 2: and then he'll try to look for one of those

2021
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 2: big power shots with his hands upstairs.

2022
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 1: And yeah, I worry about Anthony here in this one.

2023
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 1: I like Span here.

2024
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 2: I think that I don't know, you have a hungry

2025
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 2: fighter against and I'm not sure where he's at.

2026
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 1: At this pointer his career fighter. So yeah, I'll leave

2027
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 1: it at that.

2028
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 6: Fair enough, Absolutely fair Anthony Smith, And you're wise to

2029
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 6: point him out as an analytical mind. I think he

2030
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:39,719
Speaker 6: has a bright future call in fights for the USC

2031
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 6: as well, one of my favorite colleagues on this crazy

2032
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 6: UFC road show, and really has an appetite for learning

2033
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 6: about television and not just sort of going up there

2034
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:49,640
Speaker 6: and cashing a paycheck. So a lot of respect for

2035
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 6: the individual, but it is hard to quantify where his

2036
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 6: championship hunger might be at this stage of his career,

2037
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 6: and I think that's fair. Ryan Span has won two

2038
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 6: of three since that main event against Anthony Smith. He

2039
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:03,639
Speaker 6: was submitted though Bryce last time out against Nikita Kerlov

2040
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 6: on March eleventh.

2041
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 4: Who do you have here? My brother? Yeah?

2042
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 5: So this is obviously Kenny alluded to such a hard fight.

2043
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:11,680
Speaker 5: I even put Span in that category as a hard

2044
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 5: guy to predict. I mean, he had Johnny Walker in

2045
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 5: the ropes and it's like, what are you had doing,

2046
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 5: Nikida Krylof. He falls into it, you know. And this

2047
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 5: is what I call my podcast a boll spaghetti fight.

2048
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:22,919
Speaker 5: You put two pitchers on the wall, you throw bull spaghetti.

2049
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 5: Whatever the spaghetti lands on more, that's a you pick.

2050
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 5: So I almost want to pass in this fight. But

2051
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 5: the fight has a little bit of heat, and I

2052
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 5: think that's going to motivate Anthony Smith. I think he

2053
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,639
Speaker 5: kind of was ghost walking against Johnny Walker, who's a big,

2054
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 5: huge guy. I get it, but that's a fight that

2055
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:40,200
Speaker 5: he possibly could have won. Johnny Walker looked fantastic. But

2056
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 5: I think Anthony Smith that dog money here. I think

2057
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:44,640
Speaker 5: if he goes to the ground, I think he can

2058
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 5: submit Span. I think SPAN's fight IQ's lacking. I think

2059
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 5: his athletic abilities off the charge.

2060
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 4: Power off the charts.

2061
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 5: But after round one, midway through round one, if he's

2062
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:56,639
Speaker 5: not going the way he wants to go, what happens?

2063
01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 5: I think he might check out mentally and fall into something.

2064
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 5: I do think Anthony Smith has good submission, So I

2065
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:02,839
Speaker 5: think Smith is gonna get a submission.

2066
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 4: That's how I play this fight.

2067
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:06,719
Speaker 5: I'm gonna pick Anthony Smith personally, though for the listeners

2068
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 5: out there, I play Smith by decision.

2069
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 4: If not, just kind of stay away from the fight.

2070
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:15,640
Speaker 6: But yeah, that's my take, all right, So big and

2071
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 6: Brian patrick T is like a big bed of some kind.

2072
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 6: So we'll see if that happens before we get out

2073
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 6: of here. Yeah, do you have any prelim.

2074
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 5: I'm gonna yield my top. I want to I want

2075
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 5: to say something about the Ray Longo team. I know

2076
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 5: you guys covered it's a real quick thing. I'm gonna

2077
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:32,599
Speaker 5: yield my prelium time to say something about them. All right,

2078
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 5: Well before we get to the main event, give me

2079
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 5: the longer stuff.

2080
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 1: All right.

2081
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:37,599
Speaker 5: No, basically what it is is, you know I'm getting

2082
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 5: close to Ray Longo. I've met Matt Favola's dad. You know,

2083
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:42,639
Speaker 5: I got Long Island blood. My mother's from Long Island,

2084
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 5: and you guys touched on everything about how respectful and

2085
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 5: great Algae was. After the fact that, again, I'm still

2086
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 5: baffled he gets pooed. But what I love is the

2087
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 5: closeness of the team. Loyalty means so much to me.

2088
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 5: And the fact that you got Morobs sitting there in

2089
01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:58,560
Speaker 5: the cage, all in the verge of tears, who's the

2090
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:00,839
Speaker 5: number one contender who could have made made that situation,

2091
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 5: made that moment about him going up to Sean going, oh,

2092
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 5: you're calling out Cheah. No, no, fuck that, you're gonna

2093
01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 5: get me.

2094
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 4: He didn't do that.

2095
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:09,679
Speaker 5: He sat in the back and said this, my teammate

2096
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:12,799
Speaker 5: just lost. I'm devastated, and that just is a testament

2097
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 5: to the loyalty to that team to the coaching and

2098
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 5: everything like that, and there's not I mean, listen, I've

2099
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:18,720
Speaker 5: been I've been in a few gyms. I'm not like

2100
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,760
Speaker 5: I'm a expert or anything. There's a lot of shit

2101
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 5: that goes on in gyms that are aren't like that,

2102
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:25,760
Speaker 5: like what Ray Longo has in Long Island, and.

2103
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:28,639
Speaker 4: I respected so much. So hats off to all those guys.

2104
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 4: That's all I want to say.

2105
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 6: No, that's a very important point, and I'm glad you

2106
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 6: took the time to make it. It's interesting how you

2107
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:37,719
Speaker 6: lean into those New York roots, just like I'm trying

2108
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 6: to like hide the fact that my dad's from Seaford,

2109
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:40,599
Speaker 6: New York.

2110
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 4: I was created in Massachusetts. Any I don't think I have.

2111
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 4: Like what's funny is I've.

2112
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:47,719
Speaker 5: Never been to Long Island, but I've been to Boston

2113
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 5: several times for Thanksgiving growing up because my grandmother has

2114
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 5: a twin sister. She married a guy from Boston, so

2115
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:54,520
Speaker 5: we used to go there for Thanksgiving.

2116
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 3: So you know, there we go.

2117
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:58,639
Speaker 4: So good choice Byer Mary and fucking Boston.

2118
01:39:58,880 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2119
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 6: Some people suggested that Bostonians are mean. I don't think

2120
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 6: collectively we're as mean as New Yorkers. But it's very

2121
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 6: cool for me to see how much my coworkers love

2122
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 6: the city of Boston. It's always more warming with people

2123
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 6: like the place that you're from. All Right, Main event

2124
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 6: featherweight eliminator of sorts former chance Max Holloway minus eight

2125
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:20,759
Speaker 6: point fifty Korean Zombie Chan Sung Jung plus five twenty

2126
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 6: only man had beat Max Holloway since twenty nineteen, Alexander Volkanovsky.

2127
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 6: Max has won three or four bested Arnold Allen over

2128
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:30,080
Speaker 6: five rounds back in April and Kansas City Brian. He's

2129
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 6: in a bit of a tough spot divisionally until Volk

2130
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 6: loses or leaves. Korean Zombies's last fight came against the

2131
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:39,040
Speaker 6: Volkman that was a losing effort April of twenty twenty two.

2132
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 4: Will you have a play for us on the main event?

2133
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You know, sometimes fights hit me like lightning bolts. I've

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Speaker 5: been tracking this fight for two weeks now, going I can't.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean the number on Max Holloway in

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Speaker 5: my opinions rey minus like two thousand. I mean, I

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Speaker 5: think no offense to Korean Zombie. I just think he's

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Speaker 5: taken steps back as opposed to steps forward. He's very tough.

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Speaker 5: He's always gonna be in the fight. He's got power

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Speaker 5: in his hands, but he hasn't involved. He hasn't improved

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Speaker 5: as a fighter in my opinion, and it's just getting

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Speaker 5: older and Max Holloway, besides, Volkanowski is the best one

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Speaker 5: forty five. I mean, you can make an argument he's there.

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Speaker 5: I mean I thought he would go up to fifty five.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think you're gonna get a four

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Speaker 5: fight with Bulk after had the last one. I thought

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Speaker 5: you get a fifty five. He's got the long body

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Speaker 5: for it. Stand in forty five here is going to

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Speaker 5: Singapore to fight kind of you know, I mean the

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Speaker 5: not really hometown guy, but fighting that part of the

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Speaker 5: world guy in the main event. Here and Max at

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Speaker 5: eight fifty, I'm doing something like Kapper should never do.

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01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:31,880
Speaker 5: I should walk away from this. I should say, oh

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Speaker 5: that's now, you can't do that. I would pay double

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Speaker 5: this price. I would put one hundred units on this.

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Speaker 5: I'm putting a lot of money on my own money.

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Speaker 5: This is a five in to play for me on

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Speaker 5: Max Alloway. I think he just steps ahead of Korean Zombie.

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Speaker 5: I think Kreen Zombie has a puncher stance like everybody.

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Speaker 5: But when's the last time we've seen Max get hit

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Speaker 5: and knocked out or knocked out? He's never been knocked down,

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Speaker 5: So I just I don't see the path for victory

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01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:54,160
Speaker 5: on Krean Zombie here. Sure he can grapple, he's got

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Speaker 5: a twister or submission himself. He has good jiu jitsu,

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Speaker 5: but I just don't see that happening. I think Max

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01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 5: is on point, and I think he's taking fights now

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Speaker 5: just because he knows he's not going to get the

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Speaker 5: Vault fight unless Faulk loses, and he's taken fights now

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Speaker 5: just to prove his greatness and to get better as

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Speaker 5: a mixed martial artist. And I think that's all the

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01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 5: motivation a guy like him needs. So I'm heavy on

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Speaker 5: Max here big time. Yeah A five me in a play,

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Speaker 5: and I think he's going to get a finish as well.

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Speaker 5: I feel like Max is on a finished in a while,

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Speaker 5: so I see where a finish as well coming.

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Speaker 6: Four two hundred and fifty American dollars for Petreon, Max

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Speaker 6: Holloway Camp, who do you have in the main event?

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Speaker 2: You know these are two guys that are must see TV.

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Speaker 2: I think this is an awesome matchup. I know it's

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Speaker 2: one that Max Holloway has wanted. I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of one hundred and forty five pounders want this matchup

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Speaker 2: against Korean Zombie because of how much of a legend

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Speaker 2: of the Korean Zombie is. But also it's because he

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Speaker 2: moves forward, doesn't care about moving his head, isn't one

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Speaker 2: to kind of dance in and out. He plods forward

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01:42:55,960 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 2: and says, f h. Basically, let's see who's tougher. It's

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Speaker 2: what makes them so dangerous, but it's also what makes

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Speaker 2: them so vulnerable. And you know, am I supposed to

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Speaker 2: bet against the volume King from Hawaii and Max Holloway again,

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Speaker 2: someone like Korean Zombie?

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Speaker 1: You just can't do it.

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Speaker 2: And you know, big favorite here at minus eight fifty,

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Speaker 2: but you know he's a big favorite for a reason.

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Speaker 2: It could have been even bigger in my opinion, just

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Speaker 2: based on Holloway and his style. I think what I'm

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01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 2: most intrigued by is is this a Max Holloway that

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01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 2: has peaked?

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Speaker 1: You know, was his?

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01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:33,120
Speaker 2: Has he peaked a few fights a go? Is he

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01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 2: still improving? Are we going to see some new tools

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Speaker 2: in his toolbox?

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01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

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01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:43,360
Speaker 2: I'm willing to be surprised and I'm looking forward to

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01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:46,599
Speaker 2: this fight. Holloway one of the biggest legends of one

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01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:48,760
Speaker 2: of my favorite fighters to watch, so this should be

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01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:49,800
Speaker 2: fun for sure.

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Speaker 6: All right, if you want more from Brian Petrie at

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Speaker 6: Brian Petrie, mmay, big gun. I appreciate the extended time,

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Speaker 6: my man, and we will talk to you in about

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01:43:58,040 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 6: a week as we look forward to Paris.

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Speaker 4: Brother awesome, I'll see you boys.

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Speaker 1: Great. All right.

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Speaker 6: Therea is Brian Petrick with us most every week here

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Speaker 6: on the Anic and Florian Podcast, and that is going

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Speaker 6: to do it for today. Coming up next week, former

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Speaker 6: two time UFC bandaweight champion Davida Cruz, also Roman Bravo,

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Speaker 6: Young Penn State wrestler.

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Speaker 4: We'll have it the two of them together. Coming up

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Speaker 4: next week.

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Speaker 6: We'll get you ready for UFC Fight Night Seel Gone

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01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:25,920
Speaker 6: versus Sergey Spibah coming up September two in Paris, France.

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Speaker 6: Thanks to our guests. Thanks to Ray Longo just for

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Speaker 6: everything that he does for this program. Thanks to Brian Petrie.

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Speaker 6: Thanks to all the listeners out there for your commitment

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Speaker 6: to this show every week. Thanks to everybody on the

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Speaker 6: ground in Boston, who shouted out the podcast. If you

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Speaker 6: talking about Sugar Daddy, the Sugar Show, Sean O'Malley and

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Speaker 6: uh Kenflow.

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Speaker 4: I wish you all the best and your endeavors. Are

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01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:17,040
Speaker 4: you on the road this week or no?

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Speaker 1: I am, I'm off. Do you got a big one?

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Speaker 4: Don't you that?

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Speaker 2: To New York City? Yes, sir, Yes, sir. Shane Burgo's

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Speaker 2: Clay Collared in the main event kid?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Who of my favorites? Yeah, Clay call it?

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 6: I love Clay Collard. I love Shane Burgos. You know

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Speaker 6: e o am you know who else?

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Speaker 3: I love?

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Speaker 4: What do you got Hennan for hata?

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Speaker 3: Dude?

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Speaker 2: So you don't know, dude, do a backflip off of

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01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 2: one leg and stick it on one leg. You ever

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01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 2: see that a six foot eight dude?

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01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:54,680
Speaker 1: It's crazy crazy? So if you don't know.

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Speaker 6: Part of the reason Ken Flow is not with us

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01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 6: for UFC two ninety two in Boston is because he

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01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:00,839
Speaker 6: was at the theater at Madison Square Garden on Friday

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01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:06,840
Speaker 6: night for the pfl as Henan Fajita Crochse Maurice Green

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01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:09,760
Speaker 6: in the main event that was pretty violent, and then

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Speaker 6: Larissa Pacheco. My goodness, fourteen seconds. She's a bad bitch.

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Speaker 4: Huh goode.

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Speaker 2: She's a problem. She's a problem, and I have a

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Speaker 2: feeling that every organization of the world is going to

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Speaker 2: be trying to get her services because she goes out

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01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:26,760
Speaker 2: there to decimate her opponent, doesn't last long. She might

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Speaker 2: be the one to take the throne of someone like

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Speaker 2: an Amanda Nunez. But as you said, john Way Lee

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Speaker 2: and her, it's like they're right there, man, as far

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Speaker 2: as best best in my opinion, Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 6: Follow Ken Flow's business at Argus Integrated Defense on social media.

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Speaker 6: I mean, if you come up on Larissa Pacheco, the

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Speaker 6: space management they teach is not going to help. But

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Speaker 6: for maybe some other street fights, you'll be okay. Thanks

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Speaker 6: to our executive producer Cody Merrow. Thanks to everybody at

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Speaker 6: DraftKings for the VIP stuff and the dinner in Boston.

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Speaker 6: I got to meet, by the way, some of their

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Speaker 6: high roller games, like these sharp MMA minds. It makes

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Speaker 6: hundreds of thousands of dollars, I guess betting on MMA

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Speaker 6: and uh yeah, they were picking my brain, but I

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Speaker 6: was more picking there.

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Speaker 4: So it was a pretty cool experience. All right.

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Speaker 6: Thanks everybody in Boston for the support. We appreciate every

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01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 6: last one of you. And we are back in a

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Speaker 6: week to recap Singapore and look ahead to Paris and

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Speaker 6: of course pay per view in Australia canniball coming as well.

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Speaker 6: Thank you all for supporting the show for camp Plum

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Speaker 6: John and we'll talk to you until next week. Until then, you'll.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, are you sure we're down in the Boston listen?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, every time I thought at first I'll breaking these

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Speaker 7: three commandments kind of like ugle because I never planned it.

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Speaker 1: I'm planned it.

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Speaker 7: Say look, wait, they make the patches look like the

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Speaker 7: only ranches the boy look the only color on the canvas.

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Speaker 7: And then I don't mean it's like a sense of

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Speaker 7: how you can get God. Tom Hippop, you got it

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Speaker 7: every time you walk in the label the A and

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Speaker 7: I was like naughty immunity, you see because I suckle sickle.

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Speaker 1: Dot dot it.

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Speaker 7: Buddy, heat is the tactically gotta beat out on. God

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Speaker 7: is your compass. He started things like a bee could

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Speaker 7: speak eladiously off the high horse, making ascid abuse. Your

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Speaker 7: DJ must not know the alphabet for getting this cube.

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Speaker 7: My favorite DJ got those in six extra l fie

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Speaker 7: abused as the temic John p and number the nuclear stow.

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Speaker 7: I'm ready to hell this nice touch Reacher show a

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Speaker 7: bust the mustyles e Goo send your lego ship and

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Speaker 7: went frequent five miles.

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Speaker 1: DJ wants to get in the bird and get it

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Speaker 1: in the burden Edinburgh, making the God e