WEBVTT - Pt-2 Dee-1 on Kendrick Lamar & Explodes in Debate: Master P vs. QC Pee & Coach K - Its Up There Pod

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<v Speaker 1>Kendrick J. Cole somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they have massive machines behind them. Now, if we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking this talk, let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>But in addition to that talent, we know that in

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<v Speaker 2>hip hop, talent ain't enough three words rap your reality.

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<v Speaker 1>But what if you're King Vaughn, What's what's what's your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on King Man Man?

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<v Speaker 4>But do you think in two thousand and anything that

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<v Speaker 4>Master P possesses the ability to stand next to an

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<v Speaker 4>artist and really turn them up in a way like

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<v Speaker 4>a Yogatti, a QCP of of any one of these

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<v Speaker 4>other execs, even a baby, a Lil Wayne or Doctor Drake.

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<v Speaker 5>Anything can happen.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's no, I'm wondering master P was Coach K

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<v Speaker 2>and q QCP all in one.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he definitely was. I haven't seen P invest in

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<v Speaker 4>that way. We're talking about q CP K history. We're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna talk about it. We're talking about q we finl

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<v Speaker 4>we literally finlah go, QCP coach K, verse P master

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<v Speaker 4>P right right now, right P was working with the

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<v Speaker 4>company's money at that at a point his overhead was

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<v Speaker 4>low and he got popping. I'm talking about willingness to

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<v Speaker 4>invest in an artist I don't think master P can

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<v Speaker 4>hold a candle to Coach k and QCP A U.

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<v Speaker 5>A A you crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>Is God blessed the dead? Was signed to them? He

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<v Speaker 1>from New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but he wasn't one of those guys and he

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<v Speaker 4>was early well, master P wasn't cherry picking. If you

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<v Speaker 4>were signing to master P, you were getting a house

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<v Speaker 4>and no ownership. In addition, and no ownerships in your name.

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<v Speaker 4>You're wrong ownership of the music. I make ten million

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<v Speaker 4>off y'all. I mean, got your two hundred thousand dollars house.

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<v Speaker 4>That ain't talking business to nobody like me? Right, were

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<v Speaker 4>talking percentages? We talk and that's why I'm telling you investment.

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<v Speaker 5>This would make people uncomfortable about master P.

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<v Speaker 2>He was Jay Z and Damn Dash in one. He

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<v Speaker 2>was l Cool J and Russell Simmons in one. He

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<v Speaker 2>was a little baby and QCP in one. And people

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<v Speaker 2>just can't fathom that.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me, you mean Coach KMP baby did the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby was like, Baby was the better version of P.

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<v Speaker 1>So did baby not sit there? I can put P,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can put P and Coach and Slim and

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<v Speaker 1>Baby to death exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Old Loan look Okay, okay is up there and stuck

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<v Speaker 4>that n when it's up there, Man, it's stuck there.

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<v Speaker 2>The plantation looks like us being so desperate for validation

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<v Speaker 2>that we sit here and say our form of communication,

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<v Speaker 2>which is rapping and consuming rap, is something that's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>lead to our degradation.

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<v Speaker 5>You feel me, that's it?

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me, tell me tell me your because because you

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<v Speaker 4>went through a level of desperation. Yeah, tell me what

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<v Speaker 4>makes yours different than what the culture is in right now?

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<v Speaker 5>Because I knew my foundation.

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<v Speaker 2>Mmm, because I knew my foundation when that story that

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<v Speaker 2>I did, I tell about the dude that was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll manage you, but he wanted me to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>be a part of some homosexual stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Nah, man, I'm cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to for the tool to be like no,

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<v Speaker 2>because now you're asking me to go against my foundation.

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<v Speaker 2>I will come ride out here, out of town, out

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<v Speaker 2>of state, you know, in the old Honda chord, to

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<v Speaker 2>come and meet with you and hang around all day

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<v Speaker 2>waiting to get a little bit of your time to

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<v Speaker 2>try to get you to want to work with me,

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<v Speaker 2>I will do all that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm cool with.

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<v Speaker 4>Pure's the trust in God though, because if I trust God, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you trust God, you're not going network with people. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna sit somewhere for a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>his time.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh man.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean because I believe God to open doors, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So if I say, Yo, God gonna open door Yo

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<v Speaker 4>you yo, I'm gonna be humble.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna be arrogant about it. But if I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Putting when I say sitting here for a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of your town just to give kind It was a

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<v Speaker 2>video shoot, right, so I drove out of state, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's really like, Yo, we're shooting this video. D. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>down to meet with you, but I'm overseeing it. That

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense, ye, So so that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't never been a person that's been that desperate

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<v Speaker 2>that it's like they're doing D bad but he want it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>But you gotta make you gotta be careful that it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't because again, when Joe Budden, Jim Jones, Rick Ross

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<v Speaker 4>meet me or here, you say we can do better.

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<v Speaker 4>D D but I want to meet with you. That's

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<v Speaker 4>when it gets okay. That's when they say, yo, it

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<v Speaker 4>might be something else to that, because when you hear,

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<v Speaker 4>when you hear, what I would say would be the

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<v Speaker 4>correct thing to do is to say, here's the issue,

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<v Speaker 4>here's the solution. If you guys love the culture, adopt

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<v Speaker 4>that solution. So I came up with the solution.

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<v Speaker 2>And one way that I'm organizing and galvanizing everybody is

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<v Speaker 2>something I created called the Platinum Pledge. The platinum pledge.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, in the music industry, platinum is high level,

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<v Speaker 2>highest level. So I turn a platinum into an acronym

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<v Speaker 2>people leading a transformation involving newly unified mindsets.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel me.

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<v Speaker 2>The Platinum Pledge is me sitting here saying, everybody that's

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<v Speaker 2>down with this, you heard me, put your giant handcock

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<v Speaker 2>on this.

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<v Speaker 5>Sign this right here.

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<v Speaker 2>The Platinum Pledge simply says that we come together and

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<v Speaker 2>say that we vow not to create, support, or promote

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<v Speaker 2>music that is glorifying keyword glorifying murder, drug dealing and

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<v Speaker 2>drug usage, disrespecting women, and sexual irresponsibility. If somebody rocking

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<v Speaker 2>with that man, sign a platinum pledge right here, now

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<v Speaker 2>we are forming a community. We all coming together because

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<v Speaker 2>it's so many of us, but we've become a silent

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<v Speaker 2>majority because it's been seen as like you're uncool if

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<v Speaker 2>you're not participating in this or making this music or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>So now I was like, nah, bro, y'all not.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna mentally trick us to thinking were wrong for advocating

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<v Speaker 2>for what's right. So the Platinum Pledge has been bringing

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of people together. D one music dot com slash

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<v Speaker 2>Platinum Pledge. It's in my Instagram bio bro, all these

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of people that have been signed this already. Then

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<v Speaker 2>I come together and say, well, what am I gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do now that I'm forming this massive community.

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<v Speaker 5>I go to my hometown. My hometown was divided.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, we don't know everybody know D One. You know

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<v Speaker 2>everybody knows D been grinding for years. We were solid, yeah, solid,

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<v Speaker 2>But now d speaking out against stuff. And now you

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<v Speaker 2>got some people you know in the city who I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I feel like he what about this

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<v Speaker 2>the right way?

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<v Speaker 5>Or I don't know if I agree with the message.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool, you know what? You know what My solution all

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<v Speaker 1>that is, that's all.

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<v Speaker 5>I sit down, the break bread. That's just my style.

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<v Speaker 5>And let's sit down. So what I did. I went

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<v Speaker 5>back home.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard me during Christmas break.

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<v Speaker 2>Had one hundred rappers together, dog, a hundred of us

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<v Speaker 2>rappers only. We don't want nobody else. If you're a rapper,

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<v Speaker 2>may get your buttery here. Man, we about to sit

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<v Speaker 2>down and chop it up. Let's agree, let's disagree, let's cry,

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's fight, let's argue. Let's come to some solutions

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<v Speaker 2>to understand each other better. Because through doing that and

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<v Speaker 2>that type of communication is healing for everyone. Because no

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<v Speaker 2>matter what y'all think, I might be this certain type

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<v Speaker 2>of rapper, you might be a different type of rapper,

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<v Speaker 2>but we are all on the same team ultimately, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I'm on right now.

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<v Speaker 5>So when you talk solutions, I'm not just a contrarian.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just like I like to just stir up a mess.

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<v Speaker 5>No, bro.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, but if I'm Rick Ross and I'm running

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm a nigga just bought a thirty million dollar crib,

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<v Speaker 4>I got a fifty million dollar spot, got all this

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<v Speaker 4>going on, I got teams around me, And I don't

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<v Speaker 4>mean that this money makes me better than you, but

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<v Speaker 4>it makes me busy. It makes me someone that has

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<v Speaker 4>a very tight schedule. Again, I'm saying the solution that

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't involve D one. That's why I keep saying that

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<v Speaker 4>people gonna think about self interest because everything has to

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<v Speaker 4>involve D one for it to be fixed.

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<v Speaker 2>So, if people want to minimize everything that I've been

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<v Speaker 2>standing on and representing for the last fifteen years, through

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<v Speaker 2>the music I'm making, through the movement that I'm creating,

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<v Speaker 2>through the interactions that I'm having, if people want to

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<v Speaker 2>try to minimize that to well, because he said let's

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<v Speaker 2>all sit down, that means that he wants something to

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<v Speaker 2>be in it for him.

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<v Speaker 5>If people want.

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<v Speaker 4>To bro that's clearly what Joe is saying. Because Joe

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<v Speaker 4>is saying, Yo, I see through that.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude.

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<v Speaker 4>You're cloud chasing cool and you're using the God thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a cloud chase going on, Like you calling these

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<v Speaker 4>dudes names?

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<v Speaker 1>What the fuck?

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<v Speaker 4>Why won't you call out GTA six call of duty?

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<v Speaker 4>Why don't you go of in the gaming world, right,

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<v Speaker 4>why don't you go because there's other places that's tearing

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<v Speaker 4>down kids as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not a gamer. I'm a rapper, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna talk about the dusty why not. I'm most closely

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<v Speaker 2>associated with.

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<v Speaker 5>Why don't call me a gospel rapper?

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<v Speaker 2>But then when I say, what's the point of writing

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<v Speaker 2>all of these lyrics? If I'm rapping to an audience

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<v Speaker 2>that ain't trying to hear it. They'd rather me blow

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<v Speaker 2>a bag than rap about building wealth. They'd rather me

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<v Speaker 2>get some brain than rap about mental health. Don't sense

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<v Speaker 2>to me. Eventually, try to make sense to me. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't need your dollars. I need you to think sensibly.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel good now that you're vegan, that's funny. If

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<v Speaker 2>you still promoting garbage, you just a healthy dummy. My

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<v Speaker 2>city don't even love me. I'm calling it how it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a threat to the power structure. That's brain washing

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<v Speaker 2>our kids. I'm fracturing all the egos of illegitimate.

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<v Speaker 3>He rolls.

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<v Speaker 1>I only look up to one man because he died.

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<v Speaker 5>Then he rolls.

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<v Speaker 2>I keep it too real because life don't last too long.

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<v Speaker 2>If everybody likes me, I'm doing something too wrong. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>in time they'll appreciate my words like nipsey till then

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna see how far keeping it real gives me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's dope.

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<v Speaker 5>I forget that, man, that's dope.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I respect you and you got a beautiful message,

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<v Speaker 4>a beautiful spirit. I can fit right, got a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of respect for you and what you speak.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was that's that was just dope. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>something you that's your things? That's me?

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<v Speaker 2>And got a song it's called It's called people don't

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<v Speaker 2>want that real remix. That's my verse off of the

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<v Speaker 2>song that's dope. Yeah, that's all shout out lead though too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's and that's the tip of the iceberg. So

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be like it's a big world, right, It's a

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<v Speaker 2>big world.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's deal with why not gospel rap?

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<v Speaker 5>Why not gospel?

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<v Speaker 4>Like why be in the studio with Boollsee or Kevin Gates,

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<v Speaker 4>or why not be in the studio with a gospel

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<v Speaker 4>artists or bring them in a studio with.

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<v Speaker 1>Some other because could you bridge the gap from gospel?

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<v Speaker 4>Could it be more effective if you were in gospel

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<v Speaker 4>than trying to come into the trap world and say

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<v Speaker 4>clean this up, get that over there, do that over here.

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<v Speaker 2>Brother, you know I do it all well, you might

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<v Speaker 2>not know. And that's why I'm here for communication, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to lead to the elevator. Ser Brother, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>performing at churches, nine stop round the clock at churches, Brother,

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<v Speaker 2>at churches, at church conferences in your city, I'm performing

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<v Speaker 2>at churches. I'll be back out here in June performing

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<v Speaker 2>at a homest conference at a church.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want you to come. I'm gonna come. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come and like that, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna be that what were talking about right now, That's

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<v Speaker 2>what all this is fun. It's because God made me

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<v Speaker 2>a bridge. You heard me all that He clout your man,

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<v Speaker 2>forget all that, man, It's about being a bridge. So

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<v Speaker 2>just like I'm performing in a church, I'm also teaching

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<v Speaker 2>at a college, and I'm also performing at a club,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm also collaborating with people who are undoubtedly seen

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<v Speaker 2>as gospel artists, but also people that's undoubtedly seen as

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<v Speaker 2>street artists.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm the same me everywhere. That's the part. If

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<v Speaker 5>I wasn't the same me everywhere, you heard me.

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<v Speaker 4>And I believe that I saw you on so many

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<v Speaker 4>different spots that you've been in the same individual man, Bro.

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<v Speaker 5>So I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>That means more to me than anything because hopefully through

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<v Speaker 2>that it makes you look view me through a lens

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<v Speaker 2>to where it's like, man, I'm gonna really listen to

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<v Speaker 2>a homie talking about musically but also just socially, because

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<v Speaker 2>one thing about him is he's authentic. We might not

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<v Speaker 2>always agree, but name me somebody who you always agree with.

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<v Speaker 5>It don't exist, So don't try to hit me with that.

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<v Speaker 2>But what it is is, bro like people have become

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable because they got salaries, they got positions, they got

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<v Speaker 2>a certain level of stature in this industry to where

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<v Speaker 2>they feel like, if you are challenging the status quo,

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<v Speaker 2>you are perceived as being a threat. So now I

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<v Speaker 2>can't attack the message because ain't nothing wrong with saying

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<v Speaker 2>we don't need to be glorifying the genocide of our

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<v Speaker 2>own people. So I'm gonna attack the messengers. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna look for a technicality.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, D one, technically you had Kevin Gates on the song,

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<v Speaker 5>and why would you do that?

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<v Speaker 3>D one?

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<v Speaker 2>Technically you said you wanted to sit down and meet

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<v Speaker 2>with Jim Jones in person or Rick Ross in person.

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<v Speaker 2>You must be trying to get on man. You could

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<v Speaker 2>could you could have the technicalities. Meanwhile, I'm dealing with reality, man.

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<v Speaker 1>But you but you can see how there's how they

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<v Speaker 1>can feel that way.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's fine, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You've made me realize that I can see how someone

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<v Speaker 2>could feel that way because we're used to so many

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<v Speaker 2>cloud chasers in this industry especially.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've been effective how I met a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people in this industry. It's just like coming on my platform,

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<v Speaker 4>like Yo, this what's going on this week?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 4>That you know what he should do in that deal

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<v Speaker 4>is da da da da. I ain't even reached out

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<v Speaker 4>to him. I ain't said nothing of him post that

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<v Speaker 4>it goes somewhere and that individual reached out to me, man,

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I was going through.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I remember when.

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<v Speaker 4>The industry was getting on to Baby Meek and all

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<v Speaker 4>of them about being around Michael Rubin, and I took

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<v Speaker 4>a difference. I'm like, yo, but they billionaires and by

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<v Speaker 4>me being around baby and we talk about like what deals,

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<v Speaker 4>what y'all got going with Ruben and he telling me,

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<v Speaker 4>now I'm learning this, I'm learning that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm saying, no, we getting something from that. So

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<v Speaker 1>my position was.

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<v Speaker 4>Yo, man, how y'all know it ain't business, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>And some of those guys reached out was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 4>it's business for us.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we really are own.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't know what he looked like, but we trying

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<v Speaker 4>to figure out these tax loopholes were now making two

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<v Speaker 4>three hundred million dollars. This is not no longer about hustling.

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<v Speaker 4>This is about information at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>And only in hip hop what they down you for

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to be around people that's gonna help you become

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<v Speaker 2>a better version of yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Only in hip hop, Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, that's toxic, and we gotta be able to point

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<v Speaker 2>that out and say that ain't cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>Whatever in the culture is toxic if we truly love it.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm spending the rest of my life in this

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<v Speaker 2>culture because I love it so much. If I'm spending

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of my life with my woman because I

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<v Speaker 2>love her so much, I'm going to have to address

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<v Speaker 2>the parts of her that say, boll I love you,

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<v Speaker 2>but this aggravates me about you. I love you, But

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<v Speaker 2>look how you be raising our kids and in some

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<v Speaker 2>of the ways that you talk to them.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think that's best. Da da da.

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<v Speaker 2>We gotta be able to do this, bro, And it's

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<v Speaker 2>such a sensitive area, man, because people want to instantly

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<v Speaker 2>cast you off as how dare you say something against it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's two types of love, Loom, I don't ever want

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<v Speaker 2>you to forget this, whether or not we ever talk again.

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<v Speaker 2>There afirmative love, and there's transformative love. Affirmative love is

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<v Speaker 2>man Loon getting active and attractive or whatever you say,

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<v Speaker 2>lor and getting it in Loo and fresh lo articulate

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<v Speaker 2>Loan a street dudes, so he didn't been an.

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<v Speaker 5>Overcomer of obstacles.

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<v Speaker 1>Da da da da.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just affirmative love. I only want to build you

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<v Speaker 2>up and pour into you.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying. That's affirmative love.

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<v Speaker 2>Transformative love is I love you so much, Loan that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna affirm you, and I'm gonna find a way

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<v Speaker 2>to communicate to you the areas in which I'm like, Loan,

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<v Speaker 2>you could do better in this area, brother, Like you

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<v Speaker 2>could do better, like the sound right here, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>get you another one of these from online to where

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<v Speaker 2>it ain't gonna be swaying back. It's transformative love is

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna affirm you and tell you what you could

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<v Speaker 2>do better. The culture is so used to affirmative love

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<v Speaker 2>because all we want to do is big up people

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where now you can't even say that

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<v Speaker 2>you thought Somebody album was.

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<v Speaker 5>Whack no more. They're gonna be ready to be beefed

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<v Speaker 5>out with you in the comments section.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I'm coming with transformative love, which is like, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>I clearly love this culture. I am of this culture.

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<v Speaker 2>I clearly love it. But there are some areas that

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<v Speaker 2>I want us to get better. So let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 4>But you're gonna have to be more specific when you

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<v Speaker 4>I mean and when I don't mean that, because I

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<v Speaker 4>agree with you again about the glorification of things that

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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't be glorified. But I think the message got to

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<v Speaker 4>be drilled down where we can really figure out who said,

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<v Speaker 4>what's being said, what's leading to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, there's more data. It's more data that I think

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be given.

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<v Speaker 5>More data that needs to be given.

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<v Speaker 2>Word well, I do think that the data shows that

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<v Speaker 2>music sticks with us longer than any other type of

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<v Speaker 2>information we receive. I can't quote you a sermon from

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years ago that I heard. I can't quote you

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<v Speaker 2>a message from any of my teachers that they gave me.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you nothing that me and my grandma

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<v Speaker 2>or my Grandpa rest in Peace talked about twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel me, but I could wrap you some High

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<v Speaker 2>Boys lyrics twenty years ago word for word, right, the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that music is that sticky, that's all the information

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<v Speaker 2>we need right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, see what I mean is when you like, when

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<v Speaker 4>you're on the campaign trail, right as far as like

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<v Speaker 4>a politician, you're gonna hear them be very particular when

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<v Speaker 4>they're in certain markets of thirty three percent of the

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<v Speaker 4>people over here, twenty one percent of those individual you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna hear them drill this down so the common person

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<v Speaker 4>can because it feels like that, what when you do that,

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<v Speaker 4>it could come off as that's just to affect my

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<v Speaker 4>business because you it's no solution next to it. There's

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<v Speaker 4>no there's nothing next to it. But damn man, they

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<v Speaker 4>are taking me now.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the solution is three words, wrap your reality.

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<v Speaker 1>But what if you're King Vaughn's what's what's your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on King Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? I hate I hate what happened to that brother.

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<v Speaker 2>I absolutely hate that man. That pains me. That pains me.

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<v Speaker 2>King Vaughan is a person who I wish that he

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<v Speaker 2>would have had time to fully grow and mature into

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<v Speaker 2>who God had ordained him to ultimately be. I wish

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<v Speaker 2>Tupac had more time. I wish Biggie had more time.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish sold just Slim had more time.

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<v Speaker 5>You heard me?

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<v Speaker 2>When I'm seeing these brothers, they all got one thing

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<v Speaker 2>in common. They got killed in their twenties, you feel me. Twenties, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't even get that shot and that opportunity. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's the dangers of making certain type of music, consuming

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<v Speaker 2>certain type of music. When it's like, well, we young,

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<v Speaker 2>we all gonna make mistakes. Some people don't get a

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<v Speaker 2>second chance from some mistakes that they making right now.

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<v Speaker 4>So you think I mean death comes without music being involved.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say the music is a contributor, could be,

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<v Speaker 4>but you can die young.

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<v Speaker 2>Music is simply an amplifier to what's already going on

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<v Speaker 2>in life, right, That's all it is. So why not

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<v Speaker 2>I used that amazing amplifier called hip hop music to

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<v Speaker 2>amplify the type of change that we want to see.

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<v Speaker 4>And some people are Why do you think you're not

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<v Speaker 4>as big as Kendrick J.

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<v Speaker 2>Cole somebody, Well, they have massive machines behind them. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if we're talking this talk, let's get into it yep.

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<v Speaker 2>J Cole came out signed to Rock Nation. You have

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<v Speaker 2>a jay Z co sign. You have a major label

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<v Speaker 2>that's behind you pushing it. That's an A list artist

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<v Speaker 2>co signing you. Kendrick comes out, he signed to Who Aftermath,

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Drake co sign and you got the top dog infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 2>top dog entertainment infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro, can you go get me some of the drink

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<v Speaker 1>from over? You want some drink? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Can you go over get too, drama, tell Gag bring

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<v Speaker 4>get you two drinks right quick?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Or just can you run to the store right now? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Here, okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Jake Cole, Kendrick, they both got amazing talent. Life change

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<v Speaker 2>in talent, you know what I mean, generational talent. But

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<v Speaker 2>in addition to that talent, we know that in hip

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<v Speaker 2>hop talent ain't enough to make you successful in a massively,

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<v Speaker 2>So in addition to the talent, having the infrastructure and

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<v Speaker 2>the coast sign of an A list artist like a

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<v Speaker 2>jay Z and a Doctor Drake that helps a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 5>So you're getting massive resources pumped into you.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the time that they came up, which we

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<v Speaker 2>all around the same generation. At the time that they

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<v Speaker 2>first came into the game. That was the era of

0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:25.399
<v Speaker 2>that Coast sign was almost like a prerequisite to getting on.

0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:28.480
<v Speaker 2>So you got Meek and Yle with Rick, you got

0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:31.159
<v Speaker 2>Big Sean with Kanye West, you got draking Nicki Minaj

0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:33.760
<v Speaker 2>with Lil Wayne. So for me, it was like, well,

0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:36.320
<v Speaker 2>let me try to get that coat sign. I wanted

0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:39.240
<v Speaker 2>to sign a TI real bad back then, real bad.

0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:41.160
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to sign a TI you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>He was one of them ones. Yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And I got this close.

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up being managed by Grand Hustle, by his label,

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<v Speaker 2>but at the time I was managed by them, Tip

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<v Speaker 2>was locked up. Unfortunately he had caught that case right damn.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jason Jeter was my manager rest.

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<v Speaker 5>In peace Clay role manager.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I went on my first tour with them brothers.

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<v Speaker 2>We're young, Drove would Killer Mike right, we were all

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<v Speaker 2>we were all underneath Ground Hustle at the time.

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<v Speaker 5>But Tip wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got the Grand Hustle brand, but I ain't

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<v Speaker 2>got the man, you feel.

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<v Speaker 5>Me, So it was like ah dang.

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<v Speaker 2>So then after that that situation, you know, ran its course,

0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:22.800
<v Speaker 2>and then it's like, all right, I got many fresh

0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:24.639
<v Speaker 2>That's why I said, man In Fresh is my brother.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean because man In Fresh stood

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<v Speaker 2>next to me at a time where it was like

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<v Speaker 2>this dude, d one is a different lane than what

0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:34.520
<v Speaker 2>New Orleans has ever seen. But I'm rocking with hom

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<v Speaker 2>I've been man In Fresh in the auto zone and

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<v Speaker 2>gave that ball my mixtape. He was with his little

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<v Speaker 2>son at the time, had my cell phone number written

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<v Speaker 2>on the mixtape. I was a college student, bro, and

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<v Speaker 2>it took four years for Fresh to call me because

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<v Speaker 2>after I met him, he ain't called me.

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<v Speaker 5>But I got my weight up.

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<v Speaker 1>I kept hustling, what and you kept the same number?

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<v Speaker 5>Kept the same number. I still got that still got

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<v Speaker 5>that same number.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a hell of a thing, man.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's say something about somebody character to when

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, running.

0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:05.760
<v Speaker 1>From you, you ain't dropping ditching them numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo, Man, I've been having the same number since since

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<v Speaker 2>I was in high school. With that being said, Fresh

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:14.160
<v Speaker 2>saw me on MTV Jams and Fresh was like, that's

0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:16.640
<v Speaker 2>the little dude from all those on He kept hustling,

0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:20.359
<v Speaker 2>he never complained, and now I'm looking at him on TV.

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<v Speaker 5>Fresh called me.

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<v Speaker 2>I went out to Houston, got in the studio, with

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<v Speaker 2>fresh we made a song called the One That Got Away.

0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:30.200
<v Speaker 2>That was my first local hit song on the radio,

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<v Speaker 2>mainstream rotation seven eight spins a day.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Q ninety three and one O two

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<v Speaker 2>point nine for running that. So now all of a sudden,

0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:41.840
<v Speaker 2>dang d one who kept winning Underground Artist of the

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<v Speaker 2>Year in New Orleans three years in the row.

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<v Speaker 5>But whoeverybody was.

0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Like, but he a little different, you know what I'm saying,

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Like we don't know what to do with him, you know,

0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 2>that's what it is. It was nobody like, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the ones. We got to get behind

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:55.959
<v Speaker 2>him right now. He didn't got itself on MTV jams,

0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:58.199
<v Speaker 2>he didn't got with Grand Hustle toward the country with

0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Grand Hustle fresh Coat signing, they got to hit song together.

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:05.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh shoot, D one clearly is a force to be

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:08.439
<v Speaker 2>recking with. But still nobody all the way was like

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:10.720
<v Speaker 2>we finder all the way, like take him. I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking with YMC and B at the time, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I always got to show love shout out to Slim specifically,

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:18.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, shout out the baby and Slim, But Slim

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Man Slim was like, man, you that dude, Bro, like

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.359
<v Speaker 2>I want to I want to help nurture that talent

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:27.960
<v Speaker 2>that you got right me and Slim talking Slim they

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<v Speaker 2>gave me money before, like all kinds of stuff.

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:31.120
<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing was, though, Bro, I still wasn't getting the

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Lil Wayne coach signed.

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 5>And I'm I'm a student of the game, as are you.

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:41.119
<v Speaker 5>I can tell. So I'm looking.

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm like the only people that's been succeeding over here, Drake,

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Nikki and Tiger, they all had Lil Wayne standing right

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<v Speaker 2>next to them.

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:48.439
<v Speaker 5>You feel me.

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 2>They got me and the YMCMB ecosystem right now, but

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm not getting Wayne Dwayne Michael Corley Jr.

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<v Speaker 5>To come and stand right next to me.

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 2>And Wayne, I was like that and that that's the

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<v Speaker 2>missing link right now.

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<v Speaker 5>And I didn't foresee that.

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:06.680
<v Speaker 4>But why why you think that was the case? Why

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 4>Why didn't Tips stand next to you? Didn't Wayne did jail?

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Well?

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 4>Tip was in jail, Okay, so that was universal that

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:14.439
<v Speaker 4>you had nothing to do with that. Why don't you

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:18.919
<v Speaker 4>think the Wayne embracement came the way it did for

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<v Speaker 4>a Draken and Tyger?

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Great question because of no personal beefs at all. What

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.680
<v Speaker 2>I didn't recognize at the time, is oh Wayne and

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Baby's starting to So the business was in trouble and

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:32.439
<v Speaker 2>and and that was before it hit the public to

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 2>where everybody knew like, oh man.

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.840
<v Speaker 4>Dude was really because he had money, man and all

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:38.560
<v Speaker 4>them and they gave it. They had to pay their

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:40.359
<v Speaker 4>way back out Sidria kid money.

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>It was always cash.

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<v Speaker 5>Money there you go.

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 2>So at this time you got Baby and Slim that's

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.240
<v Speaker 2>forming their stable of artists that they're bringing in that

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Wayne personally ain't got no part of that.

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 1>That's what it was there you go.

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 3>Bro.

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 2>So never got that that that co sign from an

0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 2>artist that was like a list, you know, which I

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:03.160
<v Speaker 2>feel like was really needed. So what I kept doing,

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I ain't stopped. I went on tour with Mackamore. That's

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 2>when Mackilmore, the white boy out of Seattle had no

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 2>here died.

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 5>Man shout out to my dog Max, I rebuk with you.

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I do too, I do too respectfully, like I

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 4>don't mean no harm by that.

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>That's literally a mistake. But the guy name was.

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 4>Overdose man mac Miller mac Miller's That's why I was

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 4>so close.

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah.

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:30.160
<v Speaker 5>As well.

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:32.639
<v Speaker 2>So me and Mackilemore going to it this one. He

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 2>got that song thrift Shop, all right, biggest, biggest song

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 2>in the world at the time, you heard me. And

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:43.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting here like dang. This man asked me to

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 2>come on tour with him. So then I'm on tour

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:48.360
<v Speaker 2>with Mackamore. Were going around the whole country together. Bro,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm playing in front of thousands of people each night,

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sitting here like dang. I'm really all the

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 2>way in the game right now. I'm racking up at

0:26:57.000 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 2>the merch table. I'm sitting here really like I'm achieving

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:05.120
<v Speaker 2>stability financially from rapping for the first time. Because in rap,

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 2>it's easy to get popular and hard to get paid.

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Write that down, man.

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 2>So I was popular for about two or three years,

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 2>but I was not getting paid. That Maclimore tour changed

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:21.920
<v Speaker 2>my life in that department.

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:25.240
<v Speaker 4>And so what we were talking about was why you

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 4>think you didn't get the little Wayne embrace.

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 5>So all this has happened. So I'm telling you, I

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 5>don't think I ever spoke on this.

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 2>So after the Macimore tours, I end up getting a

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 2>call from RCA Records, right RCA, they got Chris Brown signed.

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:43.959
<v Speaker 2>They got acept Rocket except third they got USh Air

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 2>at the time.

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 5>Alicia Keys, g Eazy boot Hooo people. They called me.

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 5>We work it out.

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:53.679
<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm gonna do this deal, cash money situation.

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I didn't end up doing that. Grand hustling materialized. I

0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 2>do the RCA deal with no cod sign from a

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 2>big artist store. Right after I do the r c

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 2>A deal, I mean, l A, guess who I meet

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.679
<v Speaker 2>Master P right from my city.

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 5>Meet through mutual contact. Shout out to Jay Tweezy.

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Juggie, But at the time, it was

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:18.439
<v Speaker 2>Jay Tweezy who introduced me to master P. Ja Tweezy

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 2>is a real well known program director from the radio station.

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 5>In Baton Rouge.

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I used to intern for him when I was in college.

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 2>I did all this shit. I intern for Jimmy Henchman.

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh Man, right now, you know they got yeah man

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 2>had issues fit them. Shout out to Jimmy Man. I

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 2>was his intern. You know now that I got music

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 2>with the Game, it's a full circle moment because I

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 2>used to be on Game Street Team when I worked

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 2>for Jimmy Henchman, and I mean.

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 1>That's dope. But the and that shows that you have persevered.

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 1>You wanted this. I did you want this?

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 3>Bro?

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 5>I did, Bro? I did so.

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 2>When I met P I'll never forget. I was in Memphis,

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:58.959
<v Speaker 2>Tennessee at the time, and this was my girl at

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 2>the time. It was her birthday, and I'm out there

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 2>for her birthday and I get the call directly from

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 2>P himself. I never met Pee up until this point,

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 2>and he was like, look young and Tweezy told me

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 2>about you and Da Da Da. I'm gonna be in

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 2>New Orleans this weekend. I'm trying to meet up with

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 2>you and me and my girl was going through it

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 2>at the time already, and I was like, Boa, this

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 2>is potentially a once in a lifetime opportunity for me

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 2>to meet Pee.

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 5>He is a legend where I come from. Like, I

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 5>got to go back to New Orleans.

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 2>And I knew that when I left from her birthday

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 2>weekend in our time that we were spending together to

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 2>go back to New Orleans. I knew that I had

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 2>damaged our relationship beyond repair, you know what I mean.

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.959
<v Speaker 2>I just did believing because she just felt like, it's

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 2>another example that you want this more than you want me.

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do.

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying, what is a man that does not work

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 4>or have gold was in ambitions? You know, It's unfortunate

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 4>that someone will put that kind of pressure on someone

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 4>to choose that over there.

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 3>It was tough.

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>It was tough.

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 2>So I went to New Orleans and I ended up

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 2>meeting with Pe Bro and P tells me everything that

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 2>I was looking for. He was like, I want to

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 2>be that co sign for you, similar to how Dre

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 2>is for Kendrick Lamore, similar to how jay Z is

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 2>for j Cole. He's literally speaking what I've been looking for.

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 2>But I just signed with r C A literally Bro

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 2>less than less than a month ago. I just signed

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 2>with r C A So and P building his own

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 2>thing at the time. This when he had Alley Boy

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Fat trail. He had, you know, a few artists from

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:49.959
<v Speaker 2>around the country that he was building his own stable,

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 2>and I had just signed with r C A So.

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Me and Pee still cool to this day, but that

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 2>was that that that situation didn't materialize in terms of

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 2>that co sign. So at that point, I mean, I'm

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 2>full fledging the game. I go on tour, I meet

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Lupe Fiasco, I go on tour with Lupe Fiasco. A

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 2>few months later we tour in the country together. That

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 2>felt like somebody that's closest to my lane that I'm

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 2>in mentally and musically.

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 5>And it's a real brotherhood.

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:18.239
<v Speaker 3>You heard me right?

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Like this watch that I wear did everybody everywhere I

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<v Speaker 2>go people, Yeah, this watch fight Lupe gave me this

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<v Speaker 2>the last day of the tour. I wear this watch

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<v Speaker 2>every day symbolically. Yeah, it reminded me sleeping on the

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<v Speaker 2>front of the tour bus loom. They didn't have a

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<v Speaker 2>bunk for me. But when they came to New Orleans

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<v Speaker 2>and I opened for him on tour, I killed the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and Loupe was like.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, I respect your hustle. Do you doing your thing?

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<v Speaker 5>Come on, you wanna hop on the tour?

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<v Speaker 1>But that's dope.

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<v Speaker 3>We got.

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<v Speaker 2>We gotta couch in the front of the bus and

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<v Speaker 2>I thugged it out, sick and everything, but knowing like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what I.

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<v Speaker 5>Prayed for, is these opportunities.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got on the front of that bus and

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<v Speaker 2>I went rocked every show. And now Lupe Fiasco is

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<v Speaker 2>a professor at m I T and I'm a professor

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<v Speaker 2>at TOLL. Five minutes apart from each other and we linked.

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<v Speaker 2>We was Lincoln for his birthday a few days ago.

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<v Speaker 5>That's my dude.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's dope.

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<v Speaker 5>We got music together.

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<v Speaker 1>Meet him and Big Cret.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going baught football with these brother So when boys

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<v Speaker 1>is some of the men in this game. If you

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<v Speaker 1>said you're going bought for a ball.

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<v Speaker 2>So with that being said at this point and loop

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<v Speaker 2>A wasn't on something like yo, I want to sign

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<v Speaker 2>you or you got to be my allist type of thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but I started to realize these relationships are.

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<v Speaker 5>Just forming organically.

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<v Speaker 3>You feel me.

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<v Speaker 5>Currency, I ain't mentioned my brother Currency.

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<v Speaker 2>We grew up across the street from each other, literally,

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 2>so my house was in the Goose, but Currency where

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 2>he lived at in the East. That's where my grandparents lived,

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 2>literally across the street from my grandparents' crib bro.

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<v Speaker 5>So I've been knowing.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been knowing home since I was a little boy,

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<v Speaker 2>and man, that was something that I always felt like

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 2>like motivated me to feel like I could really do this,

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 2>because when you know somebody and you grew up with

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 2>them and you real close to them, and you seeing

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 2>that they achieving success, you feel like, well, if he

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 2>could do it, I feel like I could do it.

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 2>So I'm seeing currents that make it in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>That's motivating me even more to know, like, man, this

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 2>rap stuff ain't just a dream. This is turning into

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 2>my reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Yo.

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<v Speaker 2>I blink my eyes and it's like, all right, man,

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 2>I've been in the game for about five years on

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<v Speaker 2>my own. Now I'm making stable money and I'm seeing

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 2>my brand and my fan base continue to expand. I

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 2>stopped chasing the coat signe and I started just chasing

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:41.800
<v Speaker 2>an authentic relationship with the people that choose to believe

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 2>in me. And that's why me and my fans so

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 2>close and so tight, because it wasn't we just like

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 2>you because you signed to this person.

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 4>And that's that's why my podcast stands out, is because

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 4>at first the people would always be like.

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Yo, loan we in for the guests, bro, like why

0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 1>you be?

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't understand a lot of time the guests would

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 4>literally request for loan break that down, like I want

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 4>to talk to you about Like I remember the first

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 4>time it did. It was with the Reds DeShawn, So

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 4>I got into a scenario telling him about expenses and

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 4>how the labels keep you in the red and the

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:19.359
<v Speaker 4>negative and certain fans because I was unknown, like who

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.240
<v Speaker 4>is this guy? Like why we want to hear the Reds.

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:27.799
<v Speaker 4>You fast forward to a year now, they are extremely

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 4>happy with hearing my perception and perspective on things, and

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 4>that is important as an artist to get that footprint

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 4>in the market that's outside of someone else's because they

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:41.880
<v Speaker 4>can crash that out and you go dine with that.

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:45.360
<v Speaker 4>Michael Jordan was Michael Jordan without the Chicago jersey on,

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 4>and so you got to make sure that you are

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<v Speaker 4>who you are, regardless of what team you played for,

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:53.879
<v Speaker 4>regardless of what industry you're in, regardless of what beat

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<v Speaker 4>your own, or whatever the case may be.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that's facts, and my growth has been our

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<v Speaker 2>So whenever someone asks why I'm not bigger or why

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm not on this level, I'm like, man, I wasn't

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 2>even supposed to be here according to industry standards. Right,

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm in my fifteenth season in the league. You're heard

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 2>in fifteenth season and still ascending. I'm about to go

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 2>do breakfast club in a few days. I'm here with

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Loanan right now, Me and Starlito just dropped a banger

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 2>last night in the studio, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>Me and Project Pat got some heat coming.

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:25.799
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean.

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 5>They don't even know this though, Me and right.

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<v Speaker 1>Heat de Bong got some heat coming. I just dropped

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<v Speaker 1>my album from the Hood to Harvard.

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<v Speaker 2>And whether or not the person watching this has it currently,

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 2>just know that that album has been massively successful.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, And before we get to that the RCA thing,

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 4>how do you continue to get these deals? Like, how

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 4>do you get in position to continue to land these

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 4>deals in this industry?

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, brother, favor ain't fair, and I have favor all

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<v Speaker 2>over me, Like I'm the dude who people never understood

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 2>why it is how they It's like God really got

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<v Speaker 2>his hand on my life.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why I always have to bring it back to

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 5>speaking in terms of.

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<v Speaker 2>Spiritual perspective, because I'm way more spiritual than I am political,

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 2>way more spiritual than I am financial, way more spiritual

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 2>than I am worldly. Right, Because anything political, financial, or worldly,

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 2>I have seen how when you are on the same

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 2>page as your heavenly father and your creator, those doors

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:29.799
<v Speaker 2>that typically have to open by way of gatekeepers can

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:31.840
<v Speaker 2>open by way of God.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and we're gonna get so we got gatekeepers RCA

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 4>to get to. Here's something I wanted to ask you.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think master P has the ability to co

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 4>sign an artist's great business man legend in the game,

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 4>made a lot of money, laid the foundation for what

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 4>we see now as independent industry, right with the dropping

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:56.319
<v Speaker 4>once a month, just so many different things he did.

0:37:56.880 --> 0:37:59.800
<v Speaker 4>But do you think in two thousand and anything that

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<v Speaker 4>Master P possesses the ability to stand next to an

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<v Speaker 4>artist and really turn them up in a way like

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 4>a Yogatti, a QCP of of any one of these

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 4>other exects, even a baby, a Lil Wayne or doctor Dre.

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<v Speaker 5>Anything can happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's no. If you say anything, I'm looking for

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 1>yes or no.

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:22.759
<v Speaker 4>Oh, you're looking for yes or no, yes or no

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:25.399
<v Speaker 4>and and and I want you to clarify because I'm

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 4>not gonna just accept yo.

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:29.839
<v Speaker 5>If I'm saying anything can happen, that leans towards yes.

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Because I.

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 5>Didn't know who P from QC was. I did not

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 5>know who he was. I know he was No, No,

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:40.800
<v Speaker 5>I'm from New Orleans, brother. If I was Atlanta and

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 5>didn't know.

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 3>Who he was.

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:43.439
<v Speaker 1>But he is a. P is one of them names

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.359
<v Speaker 1>in his industry cut check cutters, like he's a he's

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>one of them. Prior to QC, P was known in

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the industry. What year you're talking about, You didn't know P.

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know P.

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 5>Like when Migos first came out, when Baby first came out,

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:56.880
<v Speaker 5>he was.

0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>The money man. Yeah, no he was. He was industry.

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:02.320
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't know but P turned all that up. But

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 1>he came in, No, he can't.

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 4>P didn't say, oh now we got a good one

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 4>because Atlanta turned them up. He was a street nigga

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 4>with connections in Atlanta.

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:13.319
<v Speaker 5>And Coach K turned them up.

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:17.880
<v Speaker 4>P and Coach, right, really, Coach is the nigga with

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 4>the connections, and then that's why Pete went it got Coach.

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Let's be clear. Pete was a money, a street guy.

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Speaker 4>Coach was the dude that managed Jez, he managed Gucci

0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:29.800
<v Speaker 4>that's been in the industry forever.

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Those two together was just unstoppable.

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 4>P understood you gotta spend money to make money, and

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 4>Coach understood that this my second round and I'm one

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 4>of them dudes. To know how to do business at

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 4>a high level, and they made it work. So I'm

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 4>saying that QCP or coach K by themselves didn't turn

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 4>those artists up.

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 1>It was the environment. It was the investment, right and.

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 2>You And if I'm wondering that P was coach K

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:04.719
<v Speaker 2>and q QCP all in one, no, he definitely was.

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen P invest in that way. Brown Empire

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 1>got built, bro, No, No, it was. It was I

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.839
<v Speaker 1>believe no limit to be. He received an inheritance from

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:18.320
<v Speaker 1>his grandfather, of course, but I'm talking about a hundred

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 1>million times and I believe that, and I watched that.

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:23.799
<v Speaker 4>But I'm telling you the investment of my own money

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:27.800
<v Speaker 4>to say, I ain't talking about even were talking about QCP.

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 1>OK, We're gonna talk about it. We're talking about q

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 1>We finished, We literally finish.

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 4>Go QCP coach K verse P master piece right right

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 4>now right, QCP coach K. When things were not profitable

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:47.320
<v Speaker 4>and it was a high overhead. So think about the

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 4>Migos video. That wasn't a cheap video. When they did

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:53.760
<v Speaker 4>for Sachi video, they were actually going from the street

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 4>spending whatever thirty forty grand on a video at a

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 4>time Pe was working with the company's money at that

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:05.400
<v Speaker 4>at a point his overhead was low and he got popping.

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:10.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about willingness to invest in an artist. I

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:13.959
<v Speaker 4>don't think master P can hold a candle to Coach

0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 4>K and QCP.

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 2>A and you crazy. And this is why you crazy,

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 2>master P. When you were signing the master P, you

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:23.799
<v Speaker 2>were getting a house in your name.

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 4>You must not know who QCP and Coach K is.

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 4>You know what they given, what they give, they given.

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:31.839
<v Speaker 1>Their greatness, God blessed dead was signed to them.

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 5>He from New Orleans.

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:34.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but he wasn't one of those guys and he

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:37.400
<v Speaker 4>was early well, master P wasn't Erry Picking. If you

0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 4>were signing to master P, you were getting a house

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 4>and no ownership in addition, and no ownership is in

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 4>your name, You're wrong. Ownership of the music what you mean?

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:49.919
<v Speaker 4>Everybody cried about P not paying their music.

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:50.640
<v Speaker 1>That's on QC.

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Bro.

0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:53.680
<v Speaker 1>They got all got ownership in that music, okay, bro.

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 5>So so that's why a few years ago Offset had

0:41:57.320 --> 0:41:58.359
<v Speaker 5>had the issues.

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 1>When it came to his contract. No, that was about

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:01.399
<v Speaker 1>a solo deal.

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:03.840
<v Speaker 4>You don't even about me that that QC artists on

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 4>their own no, no, no, they have a percentage.

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:09.279
<v Speaker 1>They have interest in their masters. So I understand that.

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 4>Most of those artist, especially the high earners, have interest

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 4>in their masters.

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:15.840
<v Speaker 1>As it pertains, once you become a high ernald, we

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:16.839
<v Speaker 1>all go renegotiating.

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:19.840
<v Speaker 4>Nos P had high eernoerds. He made a lot of

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:20.919
<v Speaker 4>money off all those guys.

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Snoop Dogg looks up to Master P as a businessman

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 2>to stay it without Master.

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 1>P his career course.

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.759
<v Speaker 4>And I truly believe that he saved P from when

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:33.240
<v Speaker 4>Sugar was on P. As you say, sorry, when Sugar

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 4>was on Snoop. When Sugar was on Snoop, ass P

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 4>saved Snoop.

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>That's what I meant.

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:41.839
<v Speaker 4>Snoop had issues on the West coast. P came in, Yo,

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 4>we got you down here, Brose. They were they were

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.720
<v Speaker 4>damn there black balling and they were talking about hurting

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 4>Snoop back then, you know what I'm saying. So that's

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:51.239
<v Speaker 4>what I mean, not that, not that Snoop saved P

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 4>was the other way around. That's why Snoop is in debted.

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 1>He loves P like that.

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 4>It's like you say, you came and mess with me

0:42:57.320 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 4>when it was dog. He got Dog on him. Man

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 4>pocket died. It's thought man, it got dog.

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 2>So P had to talk the industry talk and go

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 2>hire Michael Jackson's lawyer just to get consultation services and

0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 2>go take the meetings with the labels, do a distribution

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:15.839
<v Speaker 2>deal with priority to where it's like, we gonna keep

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 2>eighty five percent, y'all keep fifteen percent. P did that side,

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 2>and P was bank rollo the whole No Limit Operations

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 2>off set.

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:25.719
<v Speaker 4>May be the only person that has came out to

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 4>say something about the label QC, and this was about

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:33.280
<v Speaker 4>a solo deal and they wouldn't even sign this solo axis.

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:35.400
<v Speaker 1>It was funny because what happens is.

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 4>There's language in the contract that may or may not

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 4>protect against certain things. And then now all of a

0:43:41.440 --> 0:43:44.479
<v Speaker 4>sudden they want to be solo artists, so they gotta

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 4>look into that.

0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Whatever. There's been nobody sign.

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:52.160
<v Speaker 4>The QCP and coach k QC the label that says

0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:55.240
<v Speaker 4>I didn't get paid, I don't got my money.

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>He owed me money. Master P had a number of

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:01.360
<v Speaker 1>people coming out and he run off.

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 4>With all the money and we done good. He got

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 4>me a house, but I didn't get no music. So

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 4>what happens is you know the game. In this trickery game,

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 4>they'll get your house and you'll get nothing else. I

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:14.440
<v Speaker 4>make ten million off your eye and got your two

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 4>hundred thousand dollars house. That ain't talking business to nobody

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:20.319
<v Speaker 4>like me right were talking percentages. We talk and that's

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:24.200
<v Speaker 4>why I'm telling you investment. I know Coach K and

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 4>QCP is gonna envest. Little Yati had four or five

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 4>bad years. He still got cars every year on Christmas

0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:35.480
<v Speaker 4>his birthday, Still invested, still bought beat, still sent.

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Budgets, never never cut budgets.

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:40.799
<v Speaker 4>On them in the or anything. Let him find this way. Now,

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 4>look at Yati. He's created at a at a level

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:47.720
<v Speaker 4>where he's profitable. But those guys are willing to invest

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 4>in a way that I'm telling you. Master P wasn't

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 4>unless you could tell me what investment did.

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 3>He do to his art?

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 5>And master piter Silk the Shaka Intel multi platinum artists.

0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:01.359
<v Speaker 1>And the story and the story come on, man. Master

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 1>P was like, look, I'm even investing. He didn't invest. No,

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:08.719
<v Speaker 1>what investment did Silk the Shaka get.

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Bro Silk was a multi platinum artist. C Murder multi

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:15.480
<v Speaker 2>platinum artists. Bro, this is something well, at least a

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:18.360
<v Speaker 2>platinum artist. Bro, this is something to where P was like,

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 2>I see what I have been able to build, and

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:22.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna use some of this equity that I've been

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 2>able to build and make sure that I first of

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 2>all put my brothers on look out for my actual family.

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 2>Whether or not they're regarded as the best lyricists ever

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:33.440
<v Speaker 2>in the world, who cares. I'm gonna use what I

0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:36.239
<v Speaker 2>do have these resources, I do have to invest in them,

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:37.120
<v Speaker 2>into them, Bro.

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 1>That's powerful.

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 3>Bro.

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 4>You see QCP and Coach K do it over and

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 4>over and over because they know the formula. So you,

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:47.279
<v Speaker 4>mister P in my P and I'm telling you he's

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:50.440
<v Speaker 4>a legend, lot of respect for peace. He ain't done

0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 4>it over and over.

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Snoop, mister Snooper snool, he built mystical all right, Silk

0:45:57.440 --> 0:45:59.360
<v Speaker 2>the Shaka he was not then.

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:02.320
<v Speaker 1>He was nothing. You ever sold millions of record? No

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 1>all right, exactly, so you.

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 5>Can't sell Man.

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:06.319
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing who's sold millions the record.

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you, as it pertains to this business and

0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:10.960
<v Speaker 4>what it takes to do that. He came in in

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 4>an ideal time for Master P and No Limit Records.

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 1>The aura around them dictated him to do that.

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:20.560
<v Speaker 5>Shout out to my man, mister serve On, mister serve

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:21.440
<v Speaker 5>On with platinum.

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:21.600
<v Speaker 4>Bro.

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mister serv what are you saying when you say that,

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 2>When I'm saying, I'm saying, that shows the power of

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:30.920
<v Speaker 2>what p being. No, no, no, no, absolutely no, that's market.

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:32.320
<v Speaker 2>That's market behavior.

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:35.719
<v Speaker 1>That's not that's market. That's just tomorrow at the time.

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:37.600
<v Speaker 5>Nah, that's not the market at the time.

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 4>After Peter have a chokehold on rap at the time

0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:42.879
<v Speaker 4>to where whatever he dropped was selling.

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:44.160
<v Speaker 1>He dropped once a month.

0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:47.920
<v Speaker 5>That speaks to how powerful your brand was.

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:50.440
<v Speaker 1>That you building. But and he built it on his own. No,

0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:51.320
<v Speaker 1>he didn't build it.

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 4>He didn't build it by investing, though he built it

0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 4>by he built it by consistency and dropping music. I'm

0:46:56.560 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 4>telling you that CEO he built his label like artists

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:04.600
<v Speaker 4>P and Coach K built their label, like CEOs P

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:06.520
<v Speaker 4>built his artists built it.

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you, so he built here is like he

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:11.800
<v Speaker 1>was a artist, right, That's what I'm telling you.

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 4>So his his his his thought process of his To me,

0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:17.920
<v Speaker 4>when I look at No Limit, I don't see the

0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 4>investment in the artists like I see for a coach

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 4>k and a Pe, whether it be beats, whether it

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:23.799
<v Speaker 4>be placements.

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Here there them no limit. Dudes didn't do nothing outside.

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:28.400
<v Speaker 5>Around bro, y'all gotta stop sleeping on.

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, he did do movies, Dad Lee, and not just

0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:35.360
<v Speaker 2>not just movies that nobody knows, movies that did real

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:36.319
<v Speaker 2>number he did.

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:39.200
<v Speaker 1>He put them in movies. But the investment in artists

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I still don't think he did.

0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:43.520
<v Speaker 5>Tell me, Lord, this will make people uncomfortable about Master P.

0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:47.960
<v Speaker 2>He was Jay Z and Damn Dash in one. He

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 2>was l Cool J and Russell Simmons in one. He

0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 2>was little Baby and QCP in one. And people just

0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:56.960
<v Speaker 2>can't fathom that.

0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:57.239
<v Speaker 3>Bro.

0:47:57.680 --> 0:48:00.359
<v Speaker 6>Tell me, you mean coach KMP and bail me how

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 6>baby did the same thing? Baby was like, No, Baby

0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 6>was the better version of P. So did baby not

0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:08.480
<v Speaker 6>sit there?

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 4>There?

0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:10.759
<v Speaker 1>I can put P, and I can put Pe and

0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Coach and Slim and.

0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:15.800
<v Speaker 4>Baby because they understand investing in artists. I'm telling you

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 4>P has not done this again because he does not

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:19.000
<v Speaker 4>understand the formula.

0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Hold on the whole done it again?

0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Pub Bro, That's like saying that because you haven't had

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:28.560
<v Speaker 2>a hit song or hit artist lately that you got

0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:29.359
<v Speaker 2>lucky the first time.

0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:31.640
<v Speaker 1>You don't get lucky. You don't luck your way to.

0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:32.359
<v Speaker 5>Four hundred million.

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:33.360
<v Speaker 1>No, it wasn't lucky.

0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 5>It was it's seventy five million.

0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:39.040
<v Speaker 4>It was you was a benefactor of the industry, right

0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 4>and also a king hustler and a and a great

0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:46.239
<v Speaker 4>business man. But I'm telling you that there's a formula

0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:51.319
<v Speaker 4>as a CEO to to pour into an artist. There's

0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:53.640
<v Speaker 4>a formula that you think is just a co sign

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:55.880
<v Speaker 4>that you be talking about. Will you be saying, man,

0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:59.000
<v Speaker 4>that co sign from that artist. It's more that goes

0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:02.600
<v Speaker 4>into that behind the scenes that I think P doesn't

0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:05.480
<v Speaker 4>possess at this time. I think at that point when

0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:09.279
<v Speaker 4>he was birthing those artists, it didn't required that investment

0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 4>that it requires now because of an oversaturated market. I

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:14.920
<v Speaker 4>think that he was able to throw jet serve on,

0:49:15.040 --> 0:49:18.520
<v Speaker 4>come on serve on yo, feya who anybody around here? Yo?

0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm thinking he doing with Coach km P.

0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:27.359
<v Speaker 4>It is meticulous, it's playing out. It's invested in the wardrobe,

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:30.799
<v Speaker 4>the beat, selection, the feature, the man.

0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 1>This is a different thing.

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:35.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's also your friends and master P is mind.

0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:38.480
<v Speaker 2>So we also both by right, but I want to

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:40.680
<v Speaker 2>try to have an objective conversation about it.

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:43.319
<v Speaker 1>You can't how you could call him dudes right now

0:49:43.360 --> 0:49:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and I could call it right now. But tell but

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:46.560
<v Speaker 1>but tell me.

0:49:46.640 --> 0:49:50.279
<v Speaker 4>The investment argue against the investment side of what I'm saying.

0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:52.600
<v Speaker 2>So the investment side of what you're saying is that

0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:56.279
<v Speaker 2>back then there was no social media. That's how I'm

0:49:56.280 --> 0:49:59.279
<v Speaker 2>gonna get you. Your argument is nolling void. Once I

0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:02.359
<v Speaker 2>hit you with this, you couldn't just go online and say, well,

0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:04.279
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get this to go viral or be a

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:06.920
<v Speaker 2>trend on TikTok and then this single gonna pop off,

0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:08.040
<v Speaker 2>this album gonna pop off.

0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:10.839
<v Speaker 1>You had to spend money at radio. Let's not start

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:11.720
<v Speaker 1>talking about payola.

0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the industry don't like to talk about that, but

0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:17.960
<v Speaker 2>you had to spend money, which is aka investment at

0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:20.359
<v Speaker 2>radio to get an artist to pop off. You had

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:23.719
<v Speaker 2>to do real promo tours. Promo tours mean you're paying

0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 2>free go out there exactly. Master P put fifty cent

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:30.000
<v Speaker 2>on a promo tour. You feel me like this took

0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:32.920
<v Speaker 2>real money. People can't take that away from him. That

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:35.000
<v Speaker 2>of course he had the hustle, but he had to

0:50:35.160 --> 0:50:37.120
<v Speaker 2>spend money. Bro, there was no other way.

0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:37.799
<v Speaker 1>But he didn't.

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:38.400
<v Speaker 3>He didn't.

0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:39.799
<v Speaker 1>I know, he spent money.

0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:42.719
<v Speaker 4>And what I'm telling you, he didn't leave with the

0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:46.600
<v Speaker 4>formula of what it takes to the industry changed during

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:47.640
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm telling you.

0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:49.120
<v Speaker 1>So I'm telling you the.

0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:53.200
<v Speaker 4>Industry then did not require what the attention to detail

0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:54.960
<v Speaker 4>and all these things that requires now.

0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:57.359
<v Speaker 1>But a real hustler gonna always figure it out. That's

0:50:57.440 --> 0:50:58.000
<v Speaker 1>what I'm telling you.

0:50:58.120 --> 0:51:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I won't count p out because I feel like if

0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 2>he figured out a way to do it now at

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:05.279
<v Speaker 2>this point, part of being smart and part of being

0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:07.600
<v Speaker 2>a boss is simply knowing how to surround yourself with

0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:10.719
<v Speaker 2>people that's smarter than you. So a lot of it

0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:13.000
<v Speaker 2>nowadays is just what I don't get the new nature

0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:15.800
<v Speaker 2>of the industry. But I could definitely surround myself with

0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:16.400
<v Speaker 2>people who do.

0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:19.000
<v Speaker 4>And I have seen him do that. Yeah, and but see,

0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:22.280
<v Speaker 4>but that's what I mean. I think that p because

0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:24.360
<v Speaker 4>to lose three hundred million dollars.

0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 2>How you know, he lost three hundred million dollars. That's

0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:29.000
<v Speaker 2>nobody knows if that's real or not.

0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:29.239
<v Speaker 3>Bro.

0:51:29.440 --> 0:51:31.960
<v Speaker 4>For him to have ran through three hundred million dollars.

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:34.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't know why you you're playing this game you're play,

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:36.720
<v Speaker 4>but for him to have ran through three hundred million

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:42.239
<v Speaker 4>dollars and now be in a scenario where Kodak Black

0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:46.000
<v Speaker 4>would say that he's asking him for money to represent him, like, so,

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:48.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure you know that we won't live there. What

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:51.239
<v Speaker 4>the point I want to make is that I think

0:51:51.360 --> 0:51:55.400
<v Speaker 4>that when you get that money, he just yeah, when

0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:57.600
<v Speaker 4>you get that amount of money and then you lose

0:51:57.719 --> 0:52:01.080
<v Speaker 4>that money for whatever reason. And I mean he spoke

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<v Speaker 4>about the taxes and certain things happening in his life

0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:08.160
<v Speaker 4>that depreciated his funds. What I'm saying is when you

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<v Speaker 4>when you take that level of loss, and I call

0:52:11.520 --> 0:52:13.480
<v Speaker 4>it a loss because anything that I had that I

0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:16.240
<v Speaker 4>no longer have that can serve me and my family

0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:18.560
<v Speaker 4>and my business, I consider that to be a loss.

0:52:18.920 --> 0:52:21.160
<v Speaker 4>So if he no longer has the money that you

0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:23.000
<v Speaker 4>said he made, you say, you don't look up and

0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:25.400
<v Speaker 4>make four hundred million? Ain't there what you said? So

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<v Speaker 4>now how we can't now say that he didn't have

0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:29.800
<v Speaker 4>it or he didn't lose it. You still think he

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<v Speaker 4>got four hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't count another man pocket you counted it to.

0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:37.840
<v Speaker 2>That's not what Street you counted it to. Stall you

0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:41.360
<v Speaker 2>count that's Forbes. Forbes did that, but that's counting fores.

0:52:41.719 --> 0:52:46.400
<v Speaker 2>But but when you count counting.

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<v Speaker 5>Podcasting me to speculate on what another man But that's

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:49.120
<v Speaker 5>what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you did. Us street dudes will't do that.

0:52:51.280 --> 0:52:52.360
<v Speaker 5>Bro, you speculated.

0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I ain't getting into that. You speculated, right or no,

0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you're speculated. You're reported on it right.

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<v Speaker 4>Count pockets isn't me going in the masterpiece bank account.

0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:06.160
<v Speaker 4>Count pockets is simply speaking on what they may or

0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:09.399
<v Speaker 4>may not have. Okay, so you counted pockets as well.

0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I read with Forbes reported and then came on a

0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:16.200
<v Speaker 1>big platform and said and regurgitated with Forbes. I said,

0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you don't have a source to site.

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<v Speaker 4>Rock the p on the on the raps next panel

0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:24.560
<v Speaker 4>about this him and so ask how much money he got.

0:53:24.760 --> 0:53:27.320
<v Speaker 4>I talked to him about the money he lost. I

0:53:27.400 --> 0:53:30.160
<v Speaker 4>didn't put the three hundred out there, but we was

0:53:30.200 --> 0:53:31.480
<v Speaker 4>trying to explain the money bag.

0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:31.719
<v Speaker 3>Yo.

0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:35.759
<v Speaker 4>Wife's essential to pay attention in the moment and serve

0:53:35.920 --> 0:53:39.440
<v Speaker 4>some of these undervalued people who handle the business like

0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:42.120
<v Speaker 4>in raps next, some of the distributors, some of the

0:53:42.200 --> 0:53:45.040
<v Speaker 4>people at the stores. It's important for money Bag when

0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:46.960
<v Speaker 4>he's in these markets to stop in the store that's

0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:48.239
<v Speaker 4>making him two million a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey man, I'm money Bag. How's it?

0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:53.480
<v Speaker 4>This is the conversation we were having. And so my

0:53:54.000 --> 0:53:59.200
<v Speaker 4>conversation was, Yo, Bro, you know sometimes we play king maker.

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:01.839
<v Speaker 4>You know, the money you got, the money you lost,

0:54:01.920 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 4>like we were trying to give games. So I don't

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 4>want you to think I'm talking just out of osmosis,

0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:09.000
<v Speaker 4>because I'm not right. I'm telling you that we both

0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:12.280
<v Speaker 4>are counting pockets here. Don't run from the count pockets.

0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Pockets, bro, if I'm sitting here, something that's googleable, Bro,

0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:18.640
<v Speaker 2>if you speak on it, Counting pockets is not a

0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:22.520
<v Speaker 2>literal term. How much money do I think he has? Now,

0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:23.440
<v Speaker 2>that's no.

0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I asked you. Do you still think he got the

0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:26.759
<v Speaker 1>number you said he had?

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<v Speaker 2>Bro, I don't know what p has I really And

0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:33.080
<v Speaker 2>when I say that, I'm being for real because just

0:54:33.200 --> 0:54:35.400
<v Speaker 2>like we might be like man when less time he

0:54:35.560 --> 0:54:37.239
<v Speaker 2>had a hit song or something, just like we might

0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:40.879
<v Speaker 2>say that, we also might not realize damn, how many

0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:44.040
<v Speaker 2>real estate investments he got. How many other companies that

0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:47.600
<v Speaker 2>ain't something that you necessarily broadcast on Instagram?

0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Does he have just because he choosing to push sereal

0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:52.239
<v Speaker 1>right now? We don't know.

0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:54.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna play this game like P got hundreds

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:56.680
<v Speaker 4>of means you can play it because it's your guy.

0:54:57.000 --> 0:54:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna play it.

0:54:58.200 --> 0:54:58.719
<v Speaker 6>I know P.

0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:01.879
<v Speaker 4>I know people get business with Pee. I'm a high

0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:05.279
<v Speaker 4>level thinker. I can't play that game. What I will say, though,

0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:08.440
<v Speaker 4>is what I will say though, is that we agreed

0:55:08.520 --> 0:55:10.440
<v Speaker 4>that at some point he had four hundred million.

0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:11.160
<v Speaker 1>We don't.

0:55:11.200 --> 0:55:13.480
<v Speaker 4>You don't have to concede that. That's counting pockets. I'm

0:55:13.520 --> 0:55:16.080
<v Speaker 4>telling you, in my opinion, that's counting pockets because the

0:55:16.120 --> 0:55:18.200
<v Speaker 4>only thing I'm saying is do you still think he

0:55:18.280 --> 0:55:20.200
<v Speaker 4>got the amount you said he had? Well, I don't

0:55:20.239 --> 0:55:21.960
<v Speaker 4>know where you got it from. I don't care where

0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:24.080
<v Speaker 4>you got it. So what's the point after the point

0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:26.839
<v Speaker 4>after that is losing that amount of money?

0:55:26.960 --> 0:55:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I believe comes with a level of paranoia. No, no, no,

0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:36.560
<v Speaker 1>paranoia where I may not invest. I may not got

0:55:36.960 --> 0:55:39.640
<v Speaker 1>them boys, Coach can't pee them. They spending that ship

0:55:39.800 --> 0:55:42.319
<v Speaker 1>like they got that like it ain't they ain't see

0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:43.120
<v Speaker 1>they ain't went through.

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:46.000
<v Speaker 4>Nothing like that yet where it's like some taxis or

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:49.440
<v Speaker 4>something that happened like oh shit, damn, we lost a

0:55:49.560 --> 0:55:50.280
<v Speaker 4>chunk of money.

0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:52.160
<v Speaker 5>There you go, and after people go through that, you

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:52.560
<v Speaker 5>prove it.

0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:54.840
<v Speaker 2>My point, after people go through that, they might not

0:55:55.000 --> 0:55:59.640
<v Speaker 2>be just spending crazy like like like there's no tomorrow exactly.

0:55:59.719 --> 0:55:59.839
<v Speaker 3>Bro.

0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:02.680
<v Speaker 2>So, when life hit one mogul in a way that

0:56:02.760 --> 0:56:05.279
<v Speaker 2>it hasn't hit another mogul yet, you can't judge that

0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:08.200
<v Speaker 2>first mogo and say, well, that means that he just ain't.

0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:12.840
<v Speaker 2>He just ain't, you know, willing to invest or. He

0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:15.320
<v Speaker 2>never was willing to invest. When life hits you a

0:56:15.400 --> 0:56:18.080
<v Speaker 2>certain way, bro, you gotta understand that. That's like a

0:56:18.200 --> 0:56:21.919
<v Speaker 2>good metaphor is when somebody come fresh out of jail.

0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Bobby Schmurder come out of jail. People were so excited

0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:27.600
<v Speaker 2>to see Bobby Schmurder that they instantly was like, where

0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:29.000
<v Speaker 2>the music at? Where the music at?

0:56:29.200 --> 0:56:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Man, I've been gone for seven years?

0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Can I live first?

0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Can I live a little bit?

0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:36.600
<v Speaker 2>But these fans and these industry people are he falling

0:56:36.680 --> 0:56:38.920
<v Speaker 2>off because he ain't dropping no new music, Madam. I'm

0:56:38.960 --> 0:56:41.799
<v Speaker 2>trying to enjoy being a free man, and people will

0:56:41.840 --> 0:56:44.960
<v Speaker 2>try to push that on you because for them, they're like, no,

0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:49.200
<v Speaker 2>you're almost like my property. Like I feel like you're

0:56:49.320 --> 0:56:52.160
<v Speaker 2>just here to serve me, and fans gotta really think

0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:55.000
<v Speaker 2>about that. I'm about to take this kind of another direction,

0:56:55.120 --> 0:56:56.359
<v Speaker 2>and if you don't want to go here, we don't

0:56:56.400 --> 0:56:59.200
<v Speaker 2>have to. But it's your state. I was in Memphis

0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:02.080
<v Speaker 2>the theay Big got killed. I was doing a speaking

0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:06.399
<v Speaker 2>engagement at a church confany speaking of church, right man,

0:57:07.480 --> 0:57:11.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm out eating. I hear the news and brother. The

0:57:11.320 --> 0:57:15.719
<v Speaker 2>most toxic area of hip hop culture can often be

0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:19.960
<v Speaker 2>found in the comments sections on Instagram comments. Yes, brother,

0:57:20.680 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 2>I started looking as the news is getting reported, and

0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:26.560
<v Speaker 2>you see all these fans who don't know Doult personally,

0:57:26.760 --> 0:57:29.640
<v Speaker 2>who don't know God It personally, who are finding out

0:57:29.920 --> 0:57:33.800
<v Speaker 2>that a grown black man just got his life taken

0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:36.280
<v Speaker 2>from him, and they just in the comments making jokes

0:57:37.000 --> 0:57:39.320
<v Speaker 2>putting adulph in emlojis they in the comments.

0:57:39.560 --> 0:57:41.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm talking about jokes on jokes.

0:57:41.360 --> 0:57:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Gifts on jips, And I'm seeing this, bro, and it's

0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:49.040
<v Speaker 2>so inhumane that I'm just like this right here is

0:57:49.160 --> 0:57:51.960
<v Speaker 2>something that we can't ignore.

0:57:53.240 --> 0:57:55.680
<v Speaker 5>How we got here, and how we got here.

0:57:55.800 --> 0:57:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Was if we constantly are putting music out and wanting

0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:04.080
<v Speaker 2>fans to suppor there's glorifying a negative, toxic message having

0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:07.520
<v Speaker 2>to deal with selling dope or killing people, then when

0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:10.360
<v Speaker 2>it happens in real life, we also can't expect them

0:58:10.440 --> 0:58:13.360
<v Speaker 2>to be empathetic and say, this is messed up, y'all.

0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:14.800
<v Speaker 5>We need to stop this in our community.

0:58:15.000 --> 0:58:18.080
<v Speaker 2>So the fans take it ten steps further and be like, yep,

0:58:18.360 --> 0:58:20.360
<v Speaker 2>we glorifying that because this ain't nothing but a video

0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:24.120
<v Speaker 2>game to us, and y'all are just our entertainment. That's tough, man,

0:58:24.200 --> 0:58:27.280
<v Speaker 2>because you got people out here who are really losing

0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:30.480
<v Speaker 2>their life and really losing their freedom. So how dare

0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:34.720
<v Speaker 2>I come across like I'm against any of the artists

0:58:34.760 --> 0:58:37.680
<v Speaker 2>in hip hop culture? I'm simply here saying, man, these

0:58:37.720 --> 0:58:40.280
<v Speaker 2>fans don't love us as much as we might think. Brother, Yeah, no,

0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:44.280
<v Speaker 2>it's all so don't be their mascot, you know, don't

0:58:44.320 --> 0:58:47.120
<v Speaker 2>be their mascot. So let's not have an unhealthy relationship

0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:50.120
<v Speaker 2>with fame and notoriety because a lot of artists.

0:58:50.160 --> 0:58:52.480
<v Speaker 5>Oh it's another one, bro, we could do this all day.

0:58:53.360 --> 0:58:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Another I gotta listen the same way that we sit

0:58:58.400 --> 0:59:00.960
<v Speaker 2>here and we can entertain these things, and we were like, well,

0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:02.920
<v Speaker 2>at least I'm getting paid in the process. Now I'm

0:59:02.960 --> 0:59:04.960
<v Speaker 2>not starving for five days. That's why I got to

0:59:04.960 --> 0:59:06.920
<v Speaker 2>put this message out. I ain't no bad dude, but

0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:08.800
<v Speaker 2>this is just what's going on in the hoods. So

0:59:09.040 --> 0:59:11.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting paid off of it. The same way we

0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:14.960
<v Speaker 2>have an unhealthy attachment with money or with fam and success.

0:59:15.480 --> 0:59:18.400
<v Speaker 2>These fans have an unhealthy attachment with their artists to

0:59:18.520 --> 0:59:22.240
<v Speaker 2>the point where they will ride or die behind artists

0:59:22.240 --> 0:59:24.880
<v Speaker 2>who they ain't never met before, who they going through

0:59:24.960 --> 0:59:27.160
<v Speaker 2>with them. Artists are going through, but they'll be out

0:59:27.200 --> 0:59:30.080
<v Speaker 2>here beefing with other people in real life over an

0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:31.840
<v Speaker 2>artists that man, this artists don't know you.

0:59:32.600 --> 0:59:33.760
<v Speaker 5>And that's problematic.

0:59:33.840 --> 0:59:34.760
<v Speaker 3>Bro. Yeah, yeah.

0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:39.640
<v Speaker 4>They choose size the fandom that the parasocial relationship is.

0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Next level, man.

0:59:42.520 --> 0:59:44.720
<v Speaker 2>And that's the part I think The point that I

0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 2>the point that I said I was gonna get to

0:59:47.160 --> 0:59:51.880
<v Speaker 2>was we have to ask ourselves, how do we have

0:59:52.000 --> 0:59:56.520
<v Speaker 2>a message, make money, and make sure that our mental

0:59:56.760 --> 0:59:59.040
<v Speaker 2>is in a healthy space, because we want all three.

0:59:59.320 --> 1:00:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Anybody if they say they don't want to make some money, right,

1:00:02.960 --> 1:00:05.080
<v Speaker 2>anybody's lying if they say I want my mental health

1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:07.560
<v Speaker 2>to be in a crappy place because I'm in the

1:00:07.640 --> 1:00:08.200
<v Speaker 2>music industry.

1:00:08.240 --> 1:00:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I was suicidal before. I told you that before we.

1:00:10.040 --> 1:00:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Started while signed to Rcaight, while in your city in

1:00:14.040 --> 1:00:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Nashville on the BT Black College Tour, you heard me

1:00:17.120 --> 1:00:19.400
<v Speaker 2>and driving here and contemplating killing.

1:00:19.240 --> 1:00:21.360
<v Speaker 5>Myself right there on the road by myself in the

1:00:21.440 --> 1:00:22.000
<v Speaker 5>car with.

1:00:22.120 --> 1:00:24.680
<v Speaker 2>A whole deal with notoriety, about to be on the

1:00:24.760 --> 1:00:26.920
<v Speaker 2>red carpet for the BT Hip Hop Awards.

1:00:26.960 --> 1:00:28.800
<v Speaker 5>I'm in the site for that year. You know all

1:00:28.840 --> 1:00:29.280
<v Speaker 5>that stuff.

1:00:29.600 --> 1:00:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Man, We have to figure out how can we make

1:00:32.720 --> 1:00:38.840
<v Speaker 2>it to where positivity is profitable, to where progress is profitable,

1:00:38.840 --> 1:00:41.640
<v Speaker 2>because ain't nothing wrong with a profit, Ain't nothing wrong

1:00:41.680 --> 1:00:43.160
<v Speaker 2>with it. We should be able to do business in

1:00:43.200 --> 1:00:46.400
<v Speaker 2>that healthy way we talked about that off. We should

1:00:46.400 --> 1:00:48.040
<v Speaker 2>be able to be in hip hop. I think the

1:00:48.200 --> 1:00:51.959
<v Speaker 2>over glorification of getting to the bag like has become

1:00:52.120 --> 1:00:54.680
<v Speaker 2>like the end goal in the North Star for people.

1:00:54.920 --> 1:00:56.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't look up to jay Z just because he's

1:00:56.800 --> 1:00:59.120
<v Speaker 2>a billionaire. I don't look up to Kanye just because

1:00:59.160 --> 1:01:01.160
<v Speaker 2>he's a billionaire. Man, what's your character?

1:01:01.400 --> 1:01:01.440
<v Speaker 3>Like?

1:01:01.920 --> 1:01:04.960
<v Speaker 2>You heard me because that shouldn't matter as well, because

1:01:04.960 --> 1:01:06.680
<v Speaker 2>you can say Donald Trump is a billionaire, but then

1:01:06.680 --> 1:01:08.600
<v Speaker 2>people be like, well I hate him. You can say

1:01:08.640 --> 1:01:12.600
<v Speaker 2>that this person is a billionaire, that there's out here

1:01:13.000 --> 1:01:15.720
<v Speaker 2>bombing and killing thousands of people overseas in the wall,

1:01:15.800 --> 1:01:17.920
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So that is what has

1:01:17.960 --> 1:01:20.640
<v Speaker 2>happened in our culture, bro Is. We can't act like

1:01:20.760 --> 1:01:22.440
<v Speaker 2>any of this stuff is off the table. I'm not

1:01:22.520 --> 1:01:25.000
<v Speaker 2>telling everybody to take a vow to poverty and become

1:01:25.080 --> 1:01:29.120
<v Speaker 2>a priest and don't worry about making no money, bro Like.

1:01:29.760 --> 1:01:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Because people are gonna do what works.

1:01:32.120 --> 1:01:34.640
<v Speaker 4>Yes, people are gonna think that the female rappers are

1:01:34.760 --> 1:01:38.120
<v Speaker 4>adopting what the male rappers did that worked for the

1:01:38.160 --> 1:01:40.600
<v Speaker 4>male that worked for the male rappers, right. They doing

1:01:40.680 --> 1:01:45.200
<v Speaker 4>the beef thing, They doing the talking about the slide.

1:01:44.920 --> 1:01:48.520
<v Speaker 2>And telling sex about slide, beefing with each other. That's

1:01:48.560 --> 1:01:49.040
<v Speaker 2>the big three.

1:01:49.200 --> 1:01:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Right.

1:01:49.600 --> 1:01:51.440
<v Speaker 1>So when we see these women doing this.

1:01:52.200 --> 1:01:55.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm just like where the OG's at though, because once again.

1:01:56.400 --> 1:01:57.720
<v Speaker 1>It's beneficial behavior.

1:01:57.800 --> 1:01:59.760
<v Speaker 4>It's no one gonna be able to tell someone like

1:01:59.800 --> 1:02:01.880
<v Speaker 4>a sexy red I have two three children.

1:02:02.280 --> 1:02:05.240
<v Speaker 1>This is working, sir. Like you what are you saying?

1:02:05.480 --> 1:02:07.760
<v Speaker 1>You're coming here saying it's working for who for her?

1:02:08.200 --> 1:02:10.400
<v Speaker 5>Okay, but what is it doing to the millions of

1:02:10.440 --> 1:02:12.080
<v Speaker 5>people that is that is brainwashing?

1:02:12.280 --> 1:02:15.680
<v Speaker 4>First you first, you worry about you, then you worry

1:02:15.720 --> 1:02:19.480
<v Speaker 4>about others. That's called individualism, right. People tend to say that,

1:02:19.600 --> 1:02:23.600
<v Speaker 4>but everyone everyone worries about themself first, absolutely, Maslow's how

1:02:23.800 --> 1:02:24.240
<v Speaker 4>it is.

1:02:24.320 --> 1:02:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Of course self president, that's gonna be. That's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>right how it is.

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<v Speaker 5>But if we truly want to make progress, we got

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<v Speaker 5>to start to think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we will make progress again. That's why I say

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<v Speaker 1>there's time.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a like we were talking about juice World and

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<v Speaker 4>these people not getting a chance to actually develop. There's

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<v Speaker 4>a developmental process. There's a learning curve that these people

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<v Speaker 4>have to go through.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of times we're critical of people that's in

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<v Speaker 4>the twenties, like a sexy red which I do know

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<v Speaker 4>how that some of that messaging comes off. But Yo,

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<v Speaker 4>self preservation is the first thing I think. I ain't like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 4>if that's working, who, how you gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Come tell her to stop that? It's gonna be rough

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<v Speaker 1>to do. It's gonna be rough to tell. Even these

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<v Speaker 1>guys around here. It's gonna be rough to.

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<v Speaker 4>Say, Yo, you gotta stop hustling, bro, like you're hurting

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<v Speaker 4>the community. Yeah, but I'm feeding my baby.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but I can give you an alternative.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what the that's what it is now. The alternative

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<v Speaker 4>has to not only be an alternative, but effective.

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<v Speaker 2>An effective alternative yeah, fair enough, but also it has

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<v Speaker 2>to be something where we might tell that person, Yo,

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<v Speaker 2>you might make less money than you is making hustling,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're gonna gain exponentially emotionally, spiritually, and mentally because the.

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<v Speaker 1>Sex you rate.

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<v Speaker 4>What would you give some game you can give sexy

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<v Speaker 4>rec Because my thing about you is I think you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have to start just giving the game without being

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<v Speaker 4>in these people presence. I think that that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>your achilles heel for these people, even when they going

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<v Speaker 4>behind closed doors to say, yeah, but he tells me

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<v Speaker 4>you want to meet with a nigga. I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to like that sound like something is into that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and I know it's not. I know, Bro, I'm listen

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<v Speaker 4>because when I hear respect, when I hear Joe, when

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<v Speaker 4>I hear when I hear the response of these people,

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<v Speaker 4>I know, because how can he call you a cloud chaser.

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<v Speaker 2>Is irritating their demons, And when that happens, then people

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna be like, I gotta take a low blow.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a name call, I gotta make fun of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a disrespectful dude. Brother, I'm not out here.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't walk around on or strapped or nothing like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not looking to fight nobody, but I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be like Jesus Christ. So with that being said, when

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<v Speaker 2>it gets to the point where people come out and

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<v Speaker 2>either threatening me physically or just want to make fun

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<v Speaker 2>of me and make fun of my accent and say

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a basket head and all this type of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>or when people want to instantly call me a cloud chaser,

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<v Speaker 2>something about my spirit is irritating your demons.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't think it's your words what you said to him, Yo, Bro,

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<v Speaker 4>you said something to me like you said something about mine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm over here, minding my business. We just dropped the album.

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<v Speaker 4>If I'm making ross, we just dropped the album, were

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<v Speaker 4>doing our little It depends on what gets said.

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<v Speaker 5>Because if somebody calls me gay tomorrow, I'm sitting there

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<v Speaker 5>like you clown.

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<v Speaker 1>Not if they're on Breakfast Club if they have a

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<v Speaker 1>breakfast club.

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<v Speaker 4>Joe said something about you that was little to none,

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<v Speaker 4>and you came and responded little to nothing. Well, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean I ain't saying yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to

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<v Speaker 4>take that back, right, because that's not little to none.

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<v Speaker 4>What I mean is in the grand scheme of what

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<v Speaker 4>you've been able to accomplish, that dude saying that over

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<v Speaker 4>there didn't stop nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't affect.

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<v Speaker 4>Anything, right, It deserves a response from a market standpoint, right,

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<v Speaker 4>But in the grand scheme, take my.

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<v Speaker 5>Point, which is why I said I could still hug

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<v Speaker 5>Joe Budden to this day.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's why you didn't understand when I say that,

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<v Speaker 2>it's because that didn't bother me on that type of level.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, I would. But intentions are important.

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<v Speaker 5>Intentions are very important.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you.

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<v Speaker 4>Intended to to to to chop me down, that's why

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to speak to some of these other

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<v Speaker 4>that's what and I want to I want you to

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<v Speaker 4>help me with that because I have no I have

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<v Speaker 4>no desire to know do your blessings come from any

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<v Speaker 4>of them people?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>God?

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<v Speaker 1>Because of that, your attempts.

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<v Speaker 2>To chop me down simply a waste of your valuable

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<v Speaker 2>time here on earth because you're not gonna chop me

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<v Speaker 2>down because you don't feed me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you can't starve me. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't fuck you can't do nothing with me but

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<v Speaker 1>your intentions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And because of them intentions, it's like, all right, that

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<v Speaker 2>might mean that we ain't gonna be best friends at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 4>And I can't hug you, and I can't hug you,

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<v Speaker 4>and we not see that's in the church. It feels

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<v Speaker 4>like there's a lot of fake hugging this stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh okay, okay, Well with Jesus, nothing was fake in

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<v Speaker 5>the church.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of fake, a lot of stuff, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of fake, you know, a whole bunch of types

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<v Speaker 2>of behavior.

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<v Speaker 5>But there's also a lot of real behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>With that being said, Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>Judas, Judas sold Jesus out. Man, he gave a drop

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<v Speaker 2>on on Jesus. Lord, like look this way, yeah, y'all

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<v Speaker 2>come get him. You know what I'm saying, y'all take him,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all go kill him for thirty pieces of silver. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>Judas did that.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what Jesus did.

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<v Speaker 5>Wash that man feet at the Last Supper, wash his feet.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still sitting.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Lord, that's that's how that's how high the bar has

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<v Speaker 2>been set. That's why I'm always gonna be hult.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I swear respect that bro. That's I got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of respect for that man.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm digging into it because I'm trying to get

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<v Speaker 4>some information to incorporate some of it. You see what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying, because I don't I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 4>the shell that I am. But it's it's it's safe.

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<v Speaker 4>It keep you safe. I don't hug a nigga, that

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<v Speaker 4>just saying what about me?

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<v Speaker 3>Bro?

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's because that's my north star. God is my

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<v Speaker 2>north star. So I'm looking at all of the behavior

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<v Speaker 2>that's already been modeled. Man, Jesus did this already.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool how he handled this, So how I'm gonna handle

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast I'm talking about it?

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<v Speaker 5>Come on, man, I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell you some real This thing you want so bad

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<v Speaker 1>though they're trying to tag down.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but you know what, it ain't that I wanted.

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<v Speaker 5>First of all, I'm a made man. I got it.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, this thing you got, but they can affect it,

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<v Speaker 4>they destroy it, they can affect I think I just

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<v Speaker 4>I think I just be sitting there, like if you

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<v Speaker 4>know that, you Lebrin, if you know that you Steph

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<v Speaker 4>Curry and you see somebody talking about you, and you're

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<v Speaker 4>just like, man, But what you can't do is stop

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<v Speaker 4>these balls.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to spit on the Loon Show, or stop

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<v Speaker 2>this from the Hood to Harvard album, or stop this

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<v Speaker 2>this hip hop children's book. David found his sling shot

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<v Speaker 2>that y'all need to go get that. Then't change the

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<v Speaker 2>lives of thousands and thousands of people independently, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. So with all that being said, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm just in a place now where I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>there thirteen years ago. When I'm in that room and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing inconsistencies in people's behavior and character.

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<v Speaker 5>But they got all the leverage because I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 5>might need this person.

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't there, bro I ain't there, And I want

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you this, this is just another example the

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<v Speaker 2>dudes they held the gun to my head.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was in college, man, like I said, it's

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that's pretty pretty well known who you know, some

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<v Speaker 2>people might know. I would say a good bit of

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<v Speaker 2>people will probably know who they were, This person's partner,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Me and this person since then,

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<v Speaker 2>because this is a like I said, a public figure

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<v Speaker 2>have crossed paths at least five times in life, right

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<v Speaker 2>and