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Speaker 2: Well, they have massive machines behind them. Now, if we're

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Speaker 2: But in addition to that talent, we know that in

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Speaker 1: But what if you're King Vaughn, What's what's what's your

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Speaker 4: But do you think in two thousand and anything that

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Speaker 4: Master P possesses the ability to stand next to an

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Speaker 5: Anything can happen.

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Speaker 2: So that's no, I'm wondering master P was Coach K

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Speaker 2: and q QCP all in one.

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Speaker 4: No, he definitely was. I haven't seen P invest in

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Speaker 4: that way. We're talking about q CP K history. We're

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Speaker 4: we literally finlah go, QCP coach K, verse P master

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Speaker 4: P right right now, right P was working with the

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Speaker 4: company's money at that at a point his overhead was

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Speaker 4: low and he got popping. I'm talking about willingness to

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Speaker 4: invest in an artist I don't think master P can

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Speaker 4: hold a candle to Coach k and QCP A U.

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Speaker 5: A A you crazy?

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Speaker 1: Is God blessed the dead? Was signed to them? He

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but he wasn't one of those guys and he

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Speaker 4: was early well, master P wasn't cherry picking. If you

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Speaker 4: were signing to master P, you were getting a house

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Speaker 4: and no ownership. In addition, and no ownerships in your name.

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Speaker 4: You're wrong ownership of the music. I make ten million

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Speaker 4: off y'all. I mean, got your two hundred thousand dollars house.

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Speaker 4: That ain't talking business to nobody like me? Right, were

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Speaker 4: talking percentages? We talk and that's why I'm telling you investment.

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Speaker 5: This would make people uncomfortable about master P.

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Speaker 2: just can't fathom that.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Tell me, you mean Coach KMP baby did the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Baby was like, Baby was the better version of P.

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Speaker 2: The plantation looks like us being so desperate for validation

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Speaker 2: that we sit here and say our form of communication,

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Speaker 2: which is rapping and consuming rap, is something that's gonna

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Speaker 2: lead to our degradation.

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Speaker 5: You feel me, that's it?

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Speaker 4: Tell me, tell me tell me your because because you

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Speaker 4: went through a level of desperation. Yeah, tell me what

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Speaker 5: Because I knew my foundation.

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Speaker 2: Mmm, because I knew my foundation when that story that

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Speaker 2: I did, I tell about the dude that was like,

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Speaker 2: I'll manage you, but he wanted me to, you know,

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Speaker 5: Nah, man, I'm cool.

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Speaker 2: I got to for the tool to be like no,

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Speaker 2: I will come ride out here, out of town, out

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Speaker 2: I will do all that.

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Speaker 1: I'm cool with.

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Speaker 4: Pure's the trust in God though, because if I trust God, well,

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Speaker 4: I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 1: If you trust God, you're not going network with people. No,

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Speaker 5: Oh man.

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Speaker 4: I mean because I believe God to open doors, right,

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Speaker 4: So if I say, Yo, God gonna open door Yo

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Speaker 4: you yo, I'm gonna be humble.

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be arrogant about it. But if I'm.

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Speaker 2: Putting when I say sitting here for a little bit

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Speaker 2: it's really like, Yo, we're shooting this video. D. I'm

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Speaker 2: down to meet with you, but I'm overseeing it. That

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I ain't never been a person that's been that desperate

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: But you gotta make you gotta be careful that it

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Speaker 4: D D but I want to meet with you. That's

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Speaker 4: when it gets okay. That's when they say, yo, it

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Speaker 4: might be something else to that, because when you hear,

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Speaker 4: here's the solution. If you guys love the culture, adopt

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Speaker 2: And one way that I'm organizing and galvanizing everybody is

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Speaker 2: something I created called the Platinum Pledge. The platinum pledge.

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Speaker 2: You know, in the music industry, platinum is high level,

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Speaker 2: highest level. So I turn a platinum into an acronym

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Speaker 2: people leading a transformation involving newly unified mindsets.

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Speaker 1: Feel me.

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Speaker 2: The Platinum Pledge is me sitting here saying, everybody that's

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Speaker 5: Sign this right here.

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Speaker 2: The Platinum Pledge simply says that we come together and

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Speaker 2: with that man, sign a platinum pledge right here, now

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Speaker 2: we are forming a community. We all coming together because

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Speaker 5: So now I was like, nah, bro, y'all not.

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Speaker 2: Gonna mentally trick us to thinking were wrong for advocating

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Speaker 2: thousands of people together. D one music dot com slash

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Speaker 2: Platinum Pledge. It's in my Instagram bio bro, all these

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Speaker 2: thousands of people that have been signed this already. Then

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Speaker 5: I go to my hometown. My hometown was divided.

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Speaker 2: Man, we don't know everybody know D One. You know

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Speaker 2: everybody knows D been grinding for years. We were solid, yeah, solid,

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Speaker 5: Or I don't know if I agree with the message.

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Speaker 1: Cool, you know what? You know what My solution all

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Speaker 1: that is, that's all.

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Speaker 5: I sit down, the break bread. That's just my style.

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Speaker 5: And let's sit down. So what I did. I went

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Speaker 1: You heard me during Christmas break.

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Speaker 2: Had one hundred rappers together, dog, a hundred of us

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Speaker 2: rappers only. We don't want nobody else. If you're a rapper,

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Speaker 2: And that's what I'm on right now.

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Speaker 5: So when you talk solutions, I'm not just a contrarian.

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Speaker 2: That's just like I like to just stir up a mess.

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Speaker 5: No, bro.

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Speaker 4: It's like, but if I'm Rick Ross and I'm running

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Speaker 2: So, if people want to minimize everything that I've been

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Speaker 2: standing on and representing for the last fifteen years, through

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Speaker 2: try to minimize that to well, because he said let's

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Speaker 2: be in it for him.

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Speaker 5: If people want.

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Speaker 4: To bro that's clearly what Joe is saying. Because Joe

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Speaker 3: Dude.

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Speaker 4: You're cloud chasing cool and you're using the God thing.

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Speaker 4: It's a cloud chase going on, Like you calling these

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Speaker 1: What the fuck?

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Speaker 4: Why won't you call out GTA six call of duty?

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Speaker 4: Why don't you go of in the gaming world, right,

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Speaker 4: why don't you go because there's other places that's tearing

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Speaker 2: But I'm not a gamer. I'm a rapper, so I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna talk about the dusty why not. I'm most closely

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Speaker 5: Why don't call me a gospel rapper?

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Speaker 2: But then when I say, what's the point of writing

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Speaker 2: a bag than rap about building wealth. They'd rather me

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Speaker 2: get some brain than rap about mental health. Don't sense

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Speaker 2: You feel good now that you're vegan, that's funny. If

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Speaker 2: I'm a threat to the power structure. That's brain washing

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Speaker 3: He rolls.

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Speaker 1: I only look up to one man because he died.

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Speaker 5: Then he rolls.

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Speaker 2: I keep it too real because life don't last too long.

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Speaker 2: If everybody likes me, I'm doing something too wrong. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna see how far keeping it real gives me.

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Speaker 1: That's dope.

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Speaker 5: I forget that, man, that's dope.

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Speaker 4: You know, I respect you and you got a beautiful message,

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Speaker 1: And that was that's that was just dope. Is that

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Speaker 2: And got a song it's called It's called people don't

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Speaker 2: song that's dope. Yeah, that's all shout out lead though too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like that's and that's the tip of the iceberg. So

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Speaker 1: But let's deal with why not gospel rap?

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Speaker 5: Why not gospel?

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Speaker 4: Like why be in the studio with Boollsee or Kevin Gates,

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Speaker 1: Some other because could you bridge the gap from gospel?

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Speaker 4: Could it be more effective if you were in gospel

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Speaker 2: Brother, you know I do it all well, you might

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Speaker 2: that's going to lead to the elevator. Ser Brother, I'm

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Speaker 2: at churches, at church conferences in your city, I'm performing

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Speaker 1: And I want you to come. I'm gonna come. I'm

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Speaker 2: Gonna be that what were talking about right now, That's

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Speaker 2: what all this is fun. It's because God made me

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Speaker 2: just like I'm performing in a church, I'm also teaching

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Speaker 2: and I'm also collaborating with people who are undoubtedly seen

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Speaker 5: And I'm the same me everywhere. That's the part. If

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Speaker 4: And I believe that I saw you on so many

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Speaker 5: So I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: That means more to me than anything because hopefully through

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Speaker 5: It don't exist, So don't try to hit me with that.

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Speaker 2: But what it is is, bro like people have become

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Speaker 2: can't attack the message because ain't nothing wrong with saying

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Speaker 5: Well, D one, technically you had Kevin Gates on the song,

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Speaker 5: and why would you do that?

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Speaker 2: Technically you said you wanted to sit down and meet

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Speaker 2: You must be trying to get on man. You could

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Speaker 2: could you could have the technicalities. Meanwhile, I'm dealing with reality, man.

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Speaker 1: But you but you can see how there's how they

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Speaker 5: And that's fine, right.

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Speaker 2: You've made me realize that I can see how someone

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Speaker 4: And I've been effective how I met a lot of

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: That you know what he should do in that deal

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Speaker 4: is da da da da. I ain't even reached out

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Speaker 4: it goes somewhere and that individual reached out to me, man,

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Speaker 4: That's what I was going through.

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Speaker 1: Like I remember when.

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Speaker 4: The industry was getting on to Baby Meek and all

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Speaker 4: of them about being around Michael Rubin, and I took

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Speaker 1: So I'm saying, no, we getting something from that. So

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Speaker 4: Yo, man, how y'all know it ain't business, you know,

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Speaker 4: And some of those guys reached out was like, yo,

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Speaker 4: it's business for us.

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Speaker 1: That's what we really are own.

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Speaker 4: We don't know what he looked like, but we trying

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Speaker 4: to figure out these tax loopholes were now making two

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Speaker 4: This is about information at this point.

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Speaker 2: And only in hip hop what they down you for

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Speaker 1: Only in hip hop, Bro.

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Speaker 2: Man, that's toxic, and we gotta be able to point

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 5: Whatever in the culture is toxic if we truly love it.

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Speaker 2: If I'm spending the rest of my life in this

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Speaker 2: the parts of her that say, boll I love you,

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Speaker 2: but this aggravates me about you. I love you, But

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Speaker 2: look how you be raising our kids and in some

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Speaker 5: I don't think that's best. Da da da.

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Speaker 2: We gotta be able to do this, bro, And it's

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Speaker 2: such a sensitive area, man, because people want to instantly

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Speaker 2: cast you off as how dare you say something against it.

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Speaker 2: There's two types of love, Loom, I don't ever want

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Speaker 2: you to forget this, whether or not we ever talk again.

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Speaker 2: There afirmative love, and there's transformative love. Affirmative love is

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Speaker 2: man Loon getting active and attractive or whatever you say,

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Speaker 2: lor and getting it in Loo and fresh lo articulate

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Speaker 2: Loan a street dudes, so he didn't been an.

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Speaker 5: Overcomer of obstacles.

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Speaker 1: Da da da da.

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Speaker 2: That's just affirmative love. I only want to build you

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. That's affirmative love.

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Speaker 2: Transformative love is I love you so much, Loan that

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna affirm you, and I'm gonna find a way

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Speaker 2: to communicate to you the areas in which I'm like, Loan,

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Speaker 2: you could do better in this area, brother, Like you

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Speaker 2: could do better, like the sound right here, Like I

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Speaker 2: it ain't gonna be swaying back. It's transformative love is

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna affirm you and tell you what you could

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Speaker 2: do better. The culture is so used to affirmative love

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Speaker 2: because all we want to do is big up people

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Speaker 2: you thought Somebody album was.

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Speaker 5: Whack no more. They're gonna be ready to be beefed

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Speaker 2: And when I'm coming with transformative love, which is like, bro,

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Speaker 2: I clearly love this culture. I am of this culture.

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Speaker 2: I clearly love it. But there are some areas that

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Speaker 2: I want us to get better. So let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 4: But you're gonna have to be more specific when you

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Speaker 4: I mean and when I don't mean that, because I

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Speaker 4: agree with you again about the glorification of things that

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Speaker 4: shouldn't be glorified. But I think the message got to

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Speaker 4: be drilled down where we can really figure out who said,

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Speaker 4: what's being said, what's leading to it.

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Speaker 1: Like, there's more data. It's more data that I think

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Speaker 1: needs to be given.

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Speaker 5: More data that needs to be given.

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Speaker 2: Word well, I do think that the data shows that

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Speaker 2: music sticks with us longer than any other type of

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Speaker 2: information we receive. I can't quote you a sermon from

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Speaker 2: twenty years ago that I heard. I can't quote you

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Speaker 2: I can't tell you nothing that me and my grandma

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Speaker 2: You feel me, but I could wrap you some High

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Speaker 2: Boys lyrics twenty years ago word for word, right, the

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Speaker 2: fact that music is that sticky, that's all the information

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Speaker 2: we need right there.

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Speaker 4: Well, see what I mean is when you like, when

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Speaker 4: a politician, you're gonna hear them be very particular when

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Speaker 4: they're in certain markets of thirty three percent of the

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Speaker 4: people over here, twenty one percent of those individual you're

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Speaker 4: gonna hear them drill this down so the common person

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Speaker 4: can because it feels like that, what when you do that,

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Speaker 4: it could come off as that's just to affect my

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Speaker 4: business because you it's no solution next to it. There's

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Speaker 4: no there's nothing next to it. But damn man, they

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Speaker 4: are taking me now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the solution is three words, wrap your reality.

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Speaker 1: But what if you're King Vaughn's what's what's your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on King Man?

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Speaker 2: Man? I hate I hate what happened to that brother.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely hate that man. That pains me. That pains me.

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Speaker 2: King Vaughan is a person who I wish that he

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Speaker 2: would have had time to fully grow and mature into

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Speaker 2: who God had ordained him to ultimately be. I wish

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Speaker 2: Tupac had more time. I wish Biggie had more time.

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Speaker 2: I wish sold just Slim had more time.

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Speaker 5: You heard me?

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Speaker 2: When I'm seeing these brothers, they all got one thing

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Speaker 2: in common. They got killed in their twenties, you feel me. Twenties, bro,

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Speaker 2: They didn't even get that shot and that opportunity. So

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Speaker 2: that's the dangers of making certain type of music, consuming

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Speaker 2: certain type of music. When it's like, well, we young,

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Speaker 2: we all gonna make mistakes. Some people don't get a

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Speaker 4: So you think I mean death comes without music being involved.

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Speaker 4: I would say the music is a contributor, could be,

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Speaker 4: but you can die young.

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Speaker 2: Music is simply an amplifier to what's already going on

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Speaker 2: amplify the type of change that we want to see.

441
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 4: And some people are Why do you think you're not

442
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 4: as big as Kendrick J.

443
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,160
Speaker 2: Cole somebody, Well, they have massive machines behind them. Now,

444
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 2: if we're talking this talk, let's get into it yep.

445
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 2: J Cole came out signed to Rock Nation. You have

446
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 2: a jay Z co sign. You have a major label

447
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,879
Speaker 2: that's behind you pushing it. That's an A list artist

448
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,639
Speaker 2: co signing you. Kendrick comes out, he signed to Who Aftermath,

449
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 2: Doctor Drake co sign and you got the top dog infrastructure,

450
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 2: top dog entertainment infrastructure.

451
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 1: Bro, can you go get me some of the drink

452
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 1: from over? You want some drink? Yeah?

453
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,160
Speaker 4: Can you go over get too, drama, tell Gag bring

454
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 4: get you two drinks right quick?

455
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Or just can you run to the store right now? Yeah?

456
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 5: Here, okay?

457
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:55,439
Speaker 2: Jake Cole, Kendrick, they both got amazing talent. Life change

458
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 2: in talent, you know what I mean, generational talent. But

459
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 2: in addition to that talent, we know that in hip

460
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,640
Speaker 2: hop talent ain't enough to make you successful in a massively,

461
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 2: So in addition to the talent, having the infrastructure and

462
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 2: the coast sign of an A list artist like a

463
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 2: jay Z and a Doctor Drake that helps a whole lot.

464
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,199
Speaker 5: So you're getting massive resources pumped into you.

465
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 2: And at the time that they came up, which we

466
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 2: all around the same generation. At the time that they

467
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: first came into the game. That was the era of

468
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 2: that Coast sign was almost like a prerequisite to getting on.

469
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 2: So you got Meek and Yle with Rick, you got

470
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 2: Big Sean with Kanye West, you got draking Nicki Minaj

471
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 2: with Lil Wayne. So for me, it was like, well,

472
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 2: let me try to get that coat sign. I wanted

473
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 2: to sign a TI real bad back then, real bad.

474
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,160
Speaker 2: I wanted to sign a TI you know what I mean.

475
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,360
Speaker 1: He was one of them ones. Yeah yeah, yeah.

476
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 5: And I got this close.

477
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,199
Speaker 2: I ended up being managed by Grand Hustle, by his label,

478
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 2: but at the time I was managed by them, Tip

479
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 2: was locked up. Unfortunately he had caught that case right damn.

480
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 2: So Jason Jeter was my manager rest.

481
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 5: In peace Clay role manager.

482
00:21:59,440 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 3: You know.

483
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 5: I went on my first tour with them brothers.

484
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: We're young, Drove would Killer Mike right, we were all

485
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 2: we were all underneath Ground Hustle at the time.

486
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 5: But Tip wasn't there.

487
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 2: So I got the Grand Hustle brand, but I ain't

488
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 2: got the man, you feel.

489
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 5: Me, So it was like ah dang.

490
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 2: So then after that that situation, you know, ran its course,

491
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: and then it's like, all right, I got many fresh

492
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 2: That's why I said, man In Fresh is my brother.

493
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 2: You know what I mean because man In Fresh stood

494
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: next to me at a time where it was like

495
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 2: this dude, d one is a different lane than what

496
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: New Orleans has ever seen. But I'm rocking with hom

497
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 2: I've been man In Fresh in the auto zone and

498
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 2: gave that ball my mixtape. He was with his little

499
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 2: son at the time, had my cell phone number written

500
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 2: on the mixtape. I was a college student, bro, and

501
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: it took four years for Fresh to call me because

502
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 2: after I met him, he ain't called me.

503
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 5: But I got my weight up.

504
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: I kept hustling, what and you kept the same number?

505
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 5: Kept the same number. I still got that still got

506
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 5: that same number.

507
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,360
Speaker 1: That's a hell of a thing, man.

508
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 2: I think that's say something about somebody character to when

509
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, running.

510
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: From you, you ain't dropping ditching them numbers.

511
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 2: Yo, Man, I've been having the same number since since

512
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 2: I was in high school. With that being said, Fresh

513
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 2: saw me on MTV Jams and Fresh was like, that's

514
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 2: the little dude from all those on He kept hustling,

515
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 2: he never complained, and now I'm looking at him on TV.

516
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 5: Fresh called me.

517
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 2: I went out to Houston, got in the studio, with

518
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 2: fresh we made a song called the One That Got Away.

519
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 2: That was my first local hit song on the radio,

520
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 2: mainstream rotation seven eight spins a day.

521
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 3: Wow.

522
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 2: Shout out to Q ninety three and one O two

523
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 2: point nine for running that. So now all of a sudden,

524
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: dang d one who kept winning Underground Artist of the

525
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 2: Year in New Orleans three years in the row.

526
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 5: But whoeverybody was.

527
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: Like, but he a little different, you know what I'm saying,

528
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: Like we don't know what to do with him, you know,

529
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: that's what it is. It was nobody like, yeah, this

530
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 2: is one of the ones. We got to get behind

531
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,959
Speaker 2: him right now. He didn't got itself on MTV jams,

532
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 2: he didn't got with Grand Hustle toward the country with

533
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 2: Grand Hustle fresh Coat signing, they got to hit song together.

534
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 2: Oh shoot, D one clearly is a force to be

535
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 2: recking with. But still nobody all the way was like

536
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: we finder all the way, like take him. I was

537
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 2: talking with YMC and B at the time, like I said,

538
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: I always got to show love shout out to Slim specifically,

539
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 2: you know, shout out the baby and Slim, But Slim

540
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: Man Slim was like, man, you that dude, Bro, like

541
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: I want to I want to help nurture that talent

542
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: that you got right me and Slim talking Slim they

543
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 2: gave me money before, like all kinds of stuff.

544
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 3: Man.

545
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing.

546
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: The thing was, though, Bro, I still wasn't getting the

547
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: Lil Wayne coach signed.

548
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 5: And I'm I'm a student of the game, as are you.

549
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 5: I can tell. So I'm looking.

550
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: I'm like the only people that's been succeeding over here, Drake,

551
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 2: Nikki and Tiger, they all had Lil Wayne standing right

552
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: next to them.

553
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 5: You feel me.

554
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: They got me and the YMCMB ecosystem right now, but

555
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 2: I'm not getting Wayne Dwayne Michael Corley Jr.

556
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 5: To come and stand right next to me.

557
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: And Wayne, I was like that and that that's the

558
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 2: missing link right now.

559
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 5: And I didn't foresee that.

560
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 4: But why why you think that was the case? Why

561
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 4: Why didn't Tips stand next to you? Didn't Wayne did jail?

562
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: Well?

563
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 4: Tip was in jail, Okay, so that was universal that

564
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 4: you had nothing to do with that. Why don't you

565
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 4: think the Wayne embracement came the way it did for

566
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 4: a Draken and Tyger?

567
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: Great question because of no personal beefs at all. What

568
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 2: I didn't recognize at the time, is oh Wayne and

569
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: Baby's starting to So the business was in trouble and

570
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 2: and and that was before it hit the public to

571
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 2: where everybody knew like, oh man.

572
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 4: Dude was really because he had money, man and all

573
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 4: them and they gave it. They had to pay their

574
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 4: way back out Sidria kid money.

575
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: It was always cash.

576
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 5: Money there you go.

577
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: So at this time you got Baby and Slim that's

578
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 2: forming their stable of artists that they're bringing in that

579
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: Wayne personally ain't got no part of that.

580
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: That's what it was there you go.

581
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 3: Bro.

582
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: So never got that that that co sign from an

583
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: artist that was like a list, you know, which I

584
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 2: feel like was really needed. So what I kept doing,

585
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 2: I ain't stopped. I went on tour with Mackamore. That's

586
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: when Mackilmore, the white boy out of Seattle had no

587
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: here died.

588
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 5: Man shout out to my dog Max, I rebuk with you.

589
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do too, I do too respectfully, like I

590
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 4: don't mean no harm by that.

591
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: That's literally a mistake. But the guy name was.

592
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 4: Overdose man mac Miller mac Miller's That's why I was

593
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 4: so close.

594
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

595
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 5: As well.

596
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 2: So me and Mackilemore going to it this one. He

597
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: got that song thrift Shop, all right, biggest, biggest song

598
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: in the world at the time, you heard me. And

599
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here like dang. This man asked me to

600
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: come on tour with him. So then I'm on tour

601
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 2: with Mackamore. Were going around the whole country together. Bro,

602
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 2: I'm playing in front of thousands of people each night,

603
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: and I'm sitting here like dang. I'm really all the

604
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 2: way in the game right now. I'm racking up at

605
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: the merch table. I'm sitting here really like I'm achieving

606
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 2: stability financially from rapping for the first time. Because in rap,

607
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: it's easy to get popular and hard to get paid.

608
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: Write that down, man.

609
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: So I was popular for about two or three years,

610
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: but I was not getting paid. That Maclimore tour changed

611
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 2: my life in that department.

612
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 4: And so what we were talking about was why you

613
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 4: think you didn't get the little Wayne embrace.

614
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 5: So all this has happened. So I'm telling you, I

615
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 5: don't think I ever spoke on this.

616
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: So after the Macimore tours, I end up getting a

617
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: call from RCA Records, right RCA, they got Chris Brown signed.

618
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 2: They got acept Rocket except third they got USh Air

619
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: at the time.

620
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 5: Alicia Keys, g Eazy boot Hooo people. They called me.

621
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 5: We work it out.

622
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 2: I said, I'm gonna do this deal, cash money situation.

623
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: I didn't end up doing that. Grand hustling materialized. I

624
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: do the RCA deal with no cod sign from a

625
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 2: big artist store. Right after I do the r c

626
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: A deal, I mean, l A, guess who I meet

627
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 2: Master P right from my city.

628
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 5: Meet through mutual contact. Shout out to Jay Tweezy.

629
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: Shout out to Juggie, But at the time, it was

630
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 2: Jay Tweezy who introduced me to master P. Ja Tweezy

631
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: is a real well known program director from the radio station.

632
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 5: In Baton Rouge.

633
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 2: I used to intern for him when I was in college.

634
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: I did all this shit. I intern for Jimmy Henchman.

635
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: Oh Man, right now, you know they got yeah man

636
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 2: had issues fit them. Shout out to Jimmy Man. I

637
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: was his intern. You know now that I got music

638
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: with the Game, it's a full circle moment because I

639
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: used to be on Game Street Team when I worked

640
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: for Jimmy Henchman, and I mean.

641
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: That's dope. But the and that shows that you have persevered.

642
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: You wanted this. I did you want this?

643
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: Bro?

644
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 5: I did, Bro? I did so.

645
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: When I met P I'll never forget. I was in Memphis,

646
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 2: Tennessee at the time, and this was my girl at

647
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: the time. It was her birthday, and I'm out there

648
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: for her birthday and I get the call directly from

649
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: P himself. I never met Pee up until this point,

650
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: and he was like, look young and Tweezy told me

651
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: about you and Da Da Da. I'm gonna be in

652
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: New Orleans this weekend. I'm trying to meet up with

653
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: you and me and my girl was going through it

654
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: at the time already, and I was like, Boa, this

655
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: is potentially a once in a lifetime opportunity for me

656
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: to meet Pee.

657
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 5: He is a legend where I come from. Like, I

658
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 5: got to go back to New Orleans.

659
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: And I knew that when I left from her birthday

660
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: weekend in our time that we were spending together to

661
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: go back to New Orleans. I knew that I had

662
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Speaker 2: damaged our relationship beyond repair, you know what I mean.

663
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 2: I just did believing because she just felt like, it's

664
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: another example that you want this more than you want me.

665
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, what is a man that does not work

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00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 4: or have gold was in ambitions? You know, It's unfortunate

668
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: that someone will put that kind of pressure on someone

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Speaker 4: to choose that over there.

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Speaker 3: It was tough.

671
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Speaker 1: It was tough.

672
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: So I went to New Orleans and I ended up

673
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: meeting with Pe Bro and P tells me everything that

674
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: I was looking for. He was like, I want to

675
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: be that co sign for you, similar to how Dre

676
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: is for Kendrick Lamore, similar to how jay Z is

677
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: for j Cole. He's literally speaking what I've been looking for.

678
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Speaker 2: But I just signed with r C A literally Bro

679
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: less than less than a month ago. I just signed

680
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: with r C A So and P building his own

681
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: thing at the time. This when he had Alley Boy

682
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Speaker 2: Fat trail. He had, you know, a few artists from

683
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Speaker 2: around the country that he was building his own stable,

684
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Speaker 2: and I had just signed with r C A So.

685
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: Me and Pee still cool to this day, but that

686
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: was that that that situation didn't materialize in terms of

687
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Speaker 2: that co sign. So at that point, I mean, I'm

688
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: full fledging the game. I go on tour, I meet

689
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: Lupe Fiasco, I go on tour with Lupe Fiasco. A

690
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: few months later we tour in the country together. That

691
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: felt like somebody that's closest to my lane that I'm

692
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: in mentally and musically.

693
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 5: And it's a real brotherhood.

694
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Speaker 3: You heard me right?

695
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: Like this watch that I wear did everybody everywhere I

696
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: go people, Yeah, this watch fight Lupe gave me this

697
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: the last day of the tour. I wear this watch

698
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: every day symbolically. Yeah, it reminded me sleeping on the

699
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: front of the tour bus loom. They didn't have a

700
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: bunk for me. But when they came to New Orleans

701
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: and I opened for him on tour, I killed the show,

702
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: and Loupe was like.

703
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Speaker 5: Man, I respect your hustle. Do you doing your thing?

704
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 5: Come on, you wanna hop on the tour?

705
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Speaker 1: But that's dope.

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Speaker 3: We got.

707
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Speaker 2: We gotta couch in the front of the bus and

708
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: I thugged it out, sick and everything, but knowing like, man,

709
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: this is what I.

710
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 5: Prayed for, is these opportunities.

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Speaker 3: Man.

712
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: So I got on the front of that bus and

713
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: I went rocked every show. And now Lupe Fiasco is

714
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Speaker 2: a professor at m I T and I'm a professor

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Speaker 2: at TOLL. Five minutes apart from each other and we linked.

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Speaker 2: We was Lincoln for his birthday a few days ago.

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Speaker 5: That's my dude.

718
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Speaker 1: That's that's dope.

719
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Speaker 1: I'm going baught football with these brother So when boys

749
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: is some of the men in this game. If you

750
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Speaker 1: said you're going bought for a ball.

751
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: So with that being said at this point and loop

752
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: A wasn't on something like yo, I want to sign

753
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Speaker 2: you or you got to be my allist type of thing,

754
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: but I started to realize these relationships are.

755
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 5: Just forming organically.

756
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Speaker 3: You feel me.

757
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 5: Currency, I ain't mentioned my brother Currency.

758
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: We grew up across the street from each other, literally,

759
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: so my house was in the Goose, but Currency where

760
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: he lived at in the East. That's where my grandparents lived,

761
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: literally across the street from my grandparents' crib bro.

762
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 5: So I've been knowing.

763
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: I've been knowing home since I was a little boy,

764
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: and man, that was something that I always felt like

765
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: like motivated me to feel like I could really do this,

766
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: because when you know somebody and you grew up with

767
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: them and you real close to them, and you seeing

768
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: that they achieving success, you feel like, well, if he

769
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: could do it, I feel like I could do it.

770
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: So I'm seeing currents that make it in the game.

771
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: That's motivating me even more to know, like, man, this

772
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: rap stuff ain't just a dream. This is turning into

773
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: my reality.

774
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 3: Yo.

775
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 2: I blink my eyes and it's like, all right, man,

776
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: I've been in the game for about five years on

777
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: my own. Now I'm making stable money and I'm seeing

778
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: my brand and my fan base continue to expand. I

779
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: stopped chasing the coat signe and I started just chasing

780
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 2: an authentic relationship with the people that choose to believe

781
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: in me. And that's why me and my fans so

782
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: close and so tight, because it wasn't we just like

783
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: you because you signed to this person.

784
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 4: And that's that's why my podcast stands out, is because

785
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 4: at first the people would always be like.

786
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: Yo, loan we in for the guests, bro, like why

787
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: you be?

788
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 4: They didn't understand a lot of time the guests would

789
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 4: literally request for loan break that down, like I want

790
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 4: to talk to you about Like I remember the first

791
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 4: time it did. It was with the Reds DeShawn, So

792
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 4: I got into a scenario telling him about expenses and

793
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 4: how the labels keep you in the red and the

794
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 4: negative and certain fans because I was unknown, like who

795
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 4: is this guy? Like why we want to hear the Reds.

796
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 4: You fast forward to a year now, they are extremely

797
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 4: happy with hearing my perception and perspective on things, and

798
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 4: that is important as an artist to get that footprint

799
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 4: in the market that's outside of someone else's because they

800
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 4: can crash that out and you go dine with that.

801
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan was Michael Jordan without the Chicago jersey on,

802
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 4: and so you got to make sure that you are

803
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 4: who you are, regardless of what team you played for,

804
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 4: regardless of what industry you're in, regardless of what beat

805
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 4: your own, or whatever the case may be.

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00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 2: You know that's facts, and my growth has been our

807
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: So whenever someone asks why I'm not bigger or why

808
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: I'm not on this level, I'm like, man, I wasn't

809
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: even supposed to be here according to industry standards. Right,

810
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: I'm in my fifteenth season in the league. You're heard

811
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: in fifteenth season and still ascending. I'm about to go

812
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: do breakfast club in a few days. I'm here with

813
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 2: Loanan right now, Me and Starlito just dropped a banger

814
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: last night in the studio, you know what I mean.

815
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 5: Me and Project Pat got some heat coming.

816
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

817
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 5: They don't even know this though, Me and right.

818
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: Heat de Bong got some heat coming. I just dropped

819
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: my album from the Hood to Harvard.

820
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Speaker 2: And whether or not the person watching this has it currently,

821
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: just know that that album has been massively successful.

822
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Speaker 4: Right, And before we get to that the RCA thing,

823
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 4: how do you continue to get these deals? Like, how

824
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 4: do you get in position to continue to land these

825
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: deals in this industry?

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00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: Well, brother, favor ain't fair, and I have favor all

827
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Speaker 2: over me, Like I'm the dude who people never understood

828
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: why it is how they It's like God really got

829
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 2: his hand on my life.

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00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 5: That's why I always have to bring it back to

831
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 5: speaking in terms of.

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00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 2: Spiritual perspective, because I'm way more spiritual than I am political,

833
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: way more spiritual than I am financial, way more spiritual

834
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: than I am worldly. Right, Because anything political, financial, or worldly,

835
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 2: I have seen how when you are on the same

836
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: page as your heavenly father and your creator, those doors

837
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 2: that typically have to open by way of gatekeepers can

838
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Speaker 2: open by way of God.

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Speaker 4: Right, and we're gonna get so we got gatekeepers RCA

840
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 4: to get to. Here's something I wanted to ask you.

841
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 4: Do you think master P has the ability to co

842
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 4: sign an artist's great business man legend in the game,

843
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 4: made a lot of money, laid the foundation for what

844
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 4: we see now as independent industry, right with the dropping

845
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 4: once a month, just so many different things he did.

846
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 4: But do you think in two thousand and anything that

847
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 4: Master P possesses the ability to stand next to an

848
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 4: artist and really turn them up in a way like

849
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: a Yogatti, a QCP of of any one of these

850
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 4: other exects, even a baby, a Lil Wayne or doctor Dre.

851
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 5: Anything can happen.

852
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: So that's no. If you say anything, I'm looking for

853
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: yes or no.

854
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 4: Oh, you're looking for yes or no, yes or no

855
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 4: and and and I want you to clarify because I'm

856
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 4: not gonna just accept yo.

857
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 5: If I'm saying anything can happen, that leans towards yes.

858
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Because I.

859
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 5: Didn't know who P from QC was. I did not

860
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 5: know who he was. I know he was No, No,

861
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 5: I'm from New Orleans, brother. If I was Atlanta and

862
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 5: didn't know.

863
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: Who he was.

864
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 1: But he is a. P is one of them names

865
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: in his industry cut check cutters, like he's a he's

866
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: one of them. Prior to QC, P was known in

867
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: the industry. What year you're talking about, You didn't know P.

868
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: I didn't know P.

869
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 5: Like when Migos first came out, when Baby first came out,

870
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 5: he was.

871
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: The money man. Yeah, no he was. He was industry.

872
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: He wasn't know but P turned all that up. But

873
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: he came in, No, he can't.

874
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 3: No.

875
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 4: P didn't say, oh now we got a good one

876
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: because Atlanta turned them up. He was a street nigga

877
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 4: with connections in Atlanta.

878
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 5: And Coach K turned them up.

879
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 4: P and Coach, right, really, Coach is the nigga with

880
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 4: the connections, and then that's why Pete went it got Coach.

881
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: Let's be clear. Pete was a money, a street guy.

882
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 4: Coach was the dude that managed Jez, he managed Gucci

883
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 4: that's been in the industry forever.

884
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: Those two together was just unstoppable.

885
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 4: P understood you gotta spend money to make money, and

886
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 4: Coach understood that this my second round and I'm one

887
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 4: of them dudes. To know how to do business at

888
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 4: a high level, and they made it work. So I'm

889
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 4: saying that QCP or coach K by themselves didn't turn

890
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: those artists up.

891
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: It was the environment. It was the investment, right and.

892
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: You And if I'm wondering that P was coach K

893
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: and q QCP all in one, no, he definitely was.

894
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: I haven't seen P invest in that way. Brown Empire

895
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: got built, bro, No, No, it was. It was I

896
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: believe no limit to be. He received an inheritance from

897
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: his grandfather, of course, but I'm talking about a hundred

898
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: million times and I believe that, and I watched that.

899
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 4: But I'm telling you the investment of my own money

900
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 4: to say, I ain't talking about even were talking about QCP.

901
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: OK, We're gonna talk about it. We're talking about q

902
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: We finished, We literally finish.

903
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 4: Go QCP coach K verse P master piece right right

904
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 4: now right, QCP coach K. When things were not profitable

905
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 4: and it was a high overhead. So think about the

906
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 4: Migos video. That wasn't a cheap video. When they did

907
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 4: for Sachi video, they were actually going from the street

908
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 4: spending whatever thirty forty grand on a video at a

909
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 4: time Pe was working with the company's money at that

910
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 4: at a point his overhead was low and he got popping.

911
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 4: I'm talking about willingness to invest in an artist. I

912
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,959
Speaker 4: don't think master P can hold a candle to Coach

913
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 4: K and QCP.

914
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: A and you crazy. And this is why you crazy,

915
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: master P. When you were signing the master P, you

916
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 2: were getting a house in your name.

917
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 4: You must not know who QCP and Coach K is.

918
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 4: You know what they given, what they give, they given.

919
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: Their greatness, God blessed dead was signed to them.

920
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 5: He from New Orleans.

921
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he wasn't one of those guys and he

922
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 4: was early well, master P wasn't Erry Picking. If you

923
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 4: were signing to master P, you were getting a house

924
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 4: and no ownership in addition, and no ownership is in

925
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 4: your name, You're wrong. Ownership of the music what you mean?

926
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 4: Everybody cried about P not paying their music.

927
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: That's on QC.

928
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 3: Bro.

929
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: They got all got ownership in that music, okay, bro.

930
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 5: So so that's why a few years ago Offset had

931
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 5: had the issues.

932
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: When it came to his contract. No, that was about

933
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: a solo deal.

934
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 4: You don't even about me that that QC artists on

935
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 4: their own no, no, no, they have a percentage.

936
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: They have interest in their masters. So I understand that.

937
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 4: Most of those artist, especially the high earners, have interest

938
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 4: in their masters.

939
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: As it pertains, once you become a high ernald, we

940
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: all go renegotiating.

941
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 4: Nos P had high eernoerds. He made a lot of

942
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 4: money off all those guys.

943
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 2: Snoop Dogg looks up to Master P as a businessman

944
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: to stay it without Master.

945
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: P his career course.

946
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 4: And I truly believe that he saved P from when

947
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 4: Sugar was on P. As you say, sorry, when Sugar

948
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 4: was on Snoop. When Sugar was on Snoop, ass P

949
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: saved Snoop.

950
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: That's what I meant.

951
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 4: Snoop had issues on the West coast. P came in, Yo,

952
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 4: we got you down here, Brose. They were they were

953
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 4: damn there black balling and they were talking about hurting

954
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 4: Snoop back then, you know what I'm saying. So that's

955
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 4: what I mean, not that, not that Snoop saved P

956
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 4: was the other way around. That's why Snoop is in debted.

957
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: He loves P like that.

958
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 4: It's like you say, you came and mess with me

959
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 4: when it was dog. He got Dog on him. Man

960
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 4: pocket died. It's thought man, it got dog.

961
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: So P had to talk the industry talk and go

962
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: hire Michael Jackson's lawyer just to get consultation services and

963
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: go take the meetings with the labels, do a distribution

964
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 2: deal with priority to where it's like, we gonna keep

965
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: eighty five percent, y'all keep fifteen percent. P did that side,

966
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: and P was bank rollo the whole No Limit Operations

967
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: off set.

968
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 4: May be the only person that has came out to

969
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 4: say something about the label QC, and this was about

970
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 4: a solo deal and they wouldn't even sign this solo axis.

971
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: It was funny because what happens is.

972
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 4: There's language in the contract that may or may not

973
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 4: protect against certain things. And then now all of a

974
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,479
Speaker 4: sudden they want to be solo artists, so they gotta

975
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 4: look into that.

976
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 1: Whatever. There's been nobody sign.

977
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 4: The QCP and coach k QC the label that says

978
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 4: I didn't get paid, I don't got my money.

979
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: He owed me money. Master P had a number of

980
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: people coming out and he run off.

981
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 4: With all the money and we done good. He got

982
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 4: me a house, but I didn't get no music. So

983
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 4: what happens is you know the game. In this trickery game,

984
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 4: they'll get your house and you'll get nothing else. I

985
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 4: make ten million off your eye and got your two

986
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars house. That ain't talking business to nobody

987
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 4: like me right were talking percentages. We talk and that's

988
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 4: why I'm telling you investment. I know Coach K and

989
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 4: QCP is gonna envest. Little Yati had four or five

990
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 4: bad years. He still got cars every year on Christmas

991
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 4: his birthday, Still invested, still bought beat, still sent.

992
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: Budgets, never never cut budgets.

993
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 4: On them in the or anything. Let him find this way. Now,

994
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 4: look at Yati. He's created at a at a level

995
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 4: where he's profitable. But those guys are willing to invest

996
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 4: in a way that I'm telling you. Master P wasn't

997
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 4: unless you could tell me what investment did.

998
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 3: He do to his art?

999
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 5: And master piter Silk the Shaka Intel multi platinum artists.

1000
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: And the story and the story come on, man. Master

1001
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: P was like, look, I'm even investing. He didn't invest. No,

1002
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: what investment did Silk the Shaka get.

1003
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: Bro Silk was a multi platinum artist. C Murder multi

1004
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: platinum artists. Bro, this is something well, at least a

1005
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: platinum artist. Bro, this is something to where P was like,

1006
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: I see what I have been able to build, and

1007
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna use some of this equity that I've been

1008
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: able to build and make sure that I first of

1009
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: all put my brothers on look out for my actual family.

1010
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: Whether or not they're regarded as the best lyricists ever

1011
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: in the world, who cares. I'm gonna use what I

1012
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: do have these resources, I do have to invest in them,

1013
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: into them, Bro.

1014
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: That's powerful.

1015
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: Bro.

1016
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 4: You see QCP and Coach K do it over and

1017
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 4: over and over because they know the formula. So you,

1018
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 4: mister P in my P and I'm telling you he's

1019
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 4: a legend, lot of respect for peace. He ain't done

1020
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 4: it over and over.

1021
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 2: Snoop, mister Snooper snool, he built mystical all right, Silk

1022
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: the Shaka he was not then.

1023
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: He was nothing. You ever sold millions of record? No

1024
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: all right, exactly, so you.

1025
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 5: Can't sell Man.

1026
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: There's nothing who's sold millions the record.

1027
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, as it pertains to this business and

1028
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 4: what it takes to do that. He came in in

1029
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 4: an ideal time for Master P and No Limit Records.

1030
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: The aura around them dictated him to do that.

1031
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 5: Shout out to my man, mister serve On, mister serve

1032
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 5: On with platinum.

1033
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 4: Bro.

1034
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, mister serv what are you saying when you say that,

1035
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: When I'm saying, I'm saying, that shows the power of

1036
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: what p being. No, no, no, no, absolutely no, that's market.

1037
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 2: That's market behavior.

1038
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: That's not that's market. That's just tomorrow at the time.

1039
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 5: Nah, that's not the market at the time.

1040
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 4: After Peter have a chokehold on rap at the time

1041
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 4: to where whatever he dropped was selling.

1042
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: He dropped once a month.

1043
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 5: That speaks to how powerful your brand was.

1044
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: That you building. But and he built it on his own. No,

1045
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: he didn't build it.

1046
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 4: He didn't build it by investing, though he built it

1047
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 4: by he built it by consistency and dropping music. I'm

1048
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: telling you that CEO he built his label like artists

1049
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 4: P and Coach K built their label, like CEOs P

1050
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 4: built his artists built it.

1051
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, so he built here is like he

1052
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: was a artist, right, That's what I'm telling you.

1053
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 4: So his his his his thought process of his To me,

1054
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 4: when I look at No Limit, I don't see the

1055
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 4: investment in the artists like I see for a coach

1056
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 4: k and a Pe, whether it be beats, whether it

1057
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 4: be placements.

1058
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: Here there them no limit. Dudes didn't do nothing outside.

1059
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 5: Around bro, y'all gotta stop sleeping on.

1060
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: Well, he did do movies, Dad Lee, and not just

1061
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 2: not just movies that nobody knows, movies that did real

1062
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: number he did.

1063
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: He put them in movies. But the investment in artists

1064
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. I still don't think he did.

1065
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 5: Tell me, Lord, this will make people uncomfortable about Master P.

1066
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: He was Jay Z and Damn Dash in one. He

1067
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 2: was l Cool J and Russell Simmons in one. He

1068
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: was little Baby and QCP in one. And people just

1069
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: can't fathom that.

1070
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 3: Bro.

1071
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 6: Tell me, you mean coach KMP and bail me how

1072
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 6: baby did the same thing? Baby was like, No, Baby

1073
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 6: was the better version of P. So did baby not

1074
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 6: sit there?

1075
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 4: There?

1076
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: I can put P, and I can put Pe and

1077
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: Coach and Slim and.

1078
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 4: Baby because they understand investing in artists. I'm telling you

1079
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 4: P has not done this again because he does not

1080
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 4: understand the formula.

1081
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: Hold on the whole done it again?

1082
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: Pub Bro, That's like saying that because you haven't had

1083
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: a hit song or hit artist lately that you got

1084
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 2: lucky the first time.

1085
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: You don't get lucky. You don't luck your way to.

1086
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 5: Four hundred million.

1087
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't lucky.

1088
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 5: It was it's seventy five million.

1089
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 4: It was you was a benefactor of the industry, right

1090
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 4: and also a king hustler and a and a great

1091
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 4: business man. But I'm telling you that there's a formula

1092
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 4: as a CEO to to pour into an artist. There's

1093
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 4: a formula that you think is just a co sign

1094
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 4: that you be talking about. Will you be saying, man,

1095
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 4: that co sign from that artist. It's more that goes

1096
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 4: into that behind the scenes that I think P doesn't

1097
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 4: possess at this time. I think at that point when

1098
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 4: he was birthing those artists, it didn't required that investment

1099
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 4: that it requires now because of an oversaturated market. I

1100
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 4: think that he was able to throw jet serve on,

1101
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 4: come on serve on yo, feya who anybody around here? Yo?

1102
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 4: That's what I'm thinking he doing with Coach km P.

1103
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 4: It is meticulous, it's playing out. It's invested in the wardrobe,

1104
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 4: the beat, selection, the feature, the man.

1105
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: This is a different thing.

1106
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's also your friends and master P is mind.

1107
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: So we also both by right, but I want to

1108
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: try to have an objective conversation about it.

1109
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: You can't how you could call him dudes right now

1110
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: and I could call it right now. But tell but

1111
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: but tell me.

1112
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 4: The investment argue against the investment side of what I'm saying.

1113
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: So the investment side of what you're saying is that

1114
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: back then there was no social media. That's how I'm

1115
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: gonna get you. Your argument is nolling void. Once I

1116
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 2: hit you with this, you couldn't just go online and say, well,

1117
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 2: we're gonna get this to go viral or be a

1118
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 2: trend on TikTok and then this single gonna pop off,

1119
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: this album gonna pop off.

1120
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: You had to spend money at radio. Let's not start

1121
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 1: talking about payola.

1122
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the industry don't like to talk about that, but

1123
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: you had to spend money, which is aka investment at

1124
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 2: radio to get an artist to pop off. You had

1125
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: to do real promo tours. Promo tours mean you're paying

1126
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 2: free go out there exactly. Master P put fifty cent

1127
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: on a promo tour. You feel me like this took

1128
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: real money. People can't take that away from him. That

1129
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 2: of course he had the hustle, but he had to

1130
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 2: spend money. Bro, there was no other way.

1131
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: But he didn't.

1132
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 3: He didn't.

1133
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: I know, he spent money.

1134
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 4: And what I'm telling you, he didn't leave with the

1135
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 4: formula of what it takes to the industry changed during

1136
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 4: That's what I'm telling you.

1137
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: So I'm telling you the.

1138
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 4: Industry then did not require what the attention to detail

1139
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 4: and all these things that requires now.

1140
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: But a real hustler gonna always figure it out. That's

1141
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: what I'm telling you.

1142
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: I won't count p out because I feel like if

1143
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: he figured out a way to do it now at

1144
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 2: this point, part of being smart and part of being

1145
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: a boss is simply knowing how to surround yourself with

1146
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: people that's smarter than you. So a lot of it

1147
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: nowadays is just what I don't get the new nature

1148
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 2: of the industry. But I could definitely surround myself with

1149
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 2: people who do.

1150
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 4: And I have seen him do that. Yeah, and but see,

1151
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 4: but that's what I mean. I think that p because

1152
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 4: to lose three hundred million dollars.

1153
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: How you know, he lost three hundred million dollars. That's

1154
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: nobody knows if that's real or not.

1155
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 3: Bro.

1156
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 4: For him to have ran through three hundred million dollars.

1157
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 4: I don't know why you you're playing this game you're play,

1158
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 4: but for him to have ran through three hundred million

1159
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 4: dollars and now be in a scenario where Kodak Black

1160
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 4: would say that he's asking him for money to represent him, like, so,

1161
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 4: I'm sure you know that we won't live there. What

1162
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 4: the point I want to make is that I think

1163
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 4: that when you get that money, he just yeah, when

1164
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 4: you get that amount of money and then you lose

1165
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 4: that money for whatever reason. And I mean he spoke

1166
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 4: about the taxes and certain things happening in his life

1167
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 4: that depreciated his funds. What I'm saying is when you

1168
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 4: when you take that level of loss, and I call

1169
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 4: it a loss because anything that I had that I

1170
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 4: no longer have that can serve me and my family

1171
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 4: and my business, I consider that to be a loss.

1172
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 4: So if he no longer has the money that you

1173
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 4: said he made, you say, you don't look up and

1174
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 4: make four hundred million? Ain't there what you said? So

1175
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 4: now how we can't now say that he didn't have

1176
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 4: it or he didn't lose it. You still think he

1177
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 4: got four hundred.

1178
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 2: I don't count another man pocket you counted it to.

1179
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 2: That's not what Street you counted it to. Stall you

1180
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 2: count that's Forbes. Forbes did that, but that's counting fores.

1181
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 2: But but when you count counting.

1182
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 5: Podcasting me to speculate on what another man But that's

1183
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 5: what I'm doing.

1184
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: That's what you did. Us street dudes will't do that.

1185
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 5: Bro, you speculated.

1186
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: I ain't getting into that. You speculated, right or no,

1187
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: you're speculated. You're reported on it right.

1188
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 4: Count pockets isn't me going in the masterpiece bank account.

1189
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 4: Count pockets is simply speaking on what they may or

1190
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 4: may not have. Okay, so you counted pockets as well.

1191
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: I read with Forbes reported and then came on a

1192
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: big platform and said and regurgitated with Forbes. I said,

1193
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: I'm telling you don't have a source to site.

1194
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 4: Rock the p on the on the raps next panel

1195
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 4: about this him and so ask how much money he got.

1196
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 4: I talked to him about the money he lost. I

1197
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 4: didn't put the three hundred out there, but we was

1198
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 4: trying to explain the money bag.

1199
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 3: Yo.

1200
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 4: Wife's essential to pay attention in the moment and serve

1201
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 4: some of these undervalued people who handle the business like

1202
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 4: in raps next, some of the distributors, some of the

1203
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 4: people at the stores. It's important for money Bag when

1204
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 4: he's in these markets to stop in the store that's

1205
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 4: making him two million a year.

1206
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm money Bag. How's it?

1207
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 4: This is the conversation we were having. And so my

1208
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 4: conversation was, Yo, Bro, you know sometimes we play king maker.

1209
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 4: You know, the money you got, the money you lost,

1210
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 4: like we were trying to give games. So I don't

1211
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 4: want you to think I'm talking just out of osmosis,

1212
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 4: because I'm not right. I'm telling you that we both

1213
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 4: are counting pockets here. Don't run from the count pockets.

1214
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 2: Pockets, bro, if I'm sitting here, something that's googleable, Bro,

1215
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: if you speak on it, Counting pockets is not a

1216
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: literal term. How much money do I think he has? Now,

1217
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 2: that's no.

1218
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: I asked you. Do you still think he got the

1219
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: number you said he had?

1220
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: Bro, I don't know what p has I really And

1221
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 2: when I say that, I'm being for real because just

1222
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: like we might be like man when less time he

1223
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 2: had a hit song or something, just like we might

1224
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 2: say that, we also might not realize damn, how many

1225
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: real estate investments he got. How many other companies that

1226
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: ain't something that you necessarily broadcast on Instagram?

1227
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: Does he have just because he choosing to push sereal

1228
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: right now? We don't know.

1229
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna play this game like P got hundreds

1230
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 4: of means you can play it because it's your guy.

1231
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play it.

1232
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 6: I know P.

1233
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 4: I know people get business with Pee. I'm a high

1234
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 4: level thinker. I can't play that game. What I will say, though,

1235
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 4: is what I will say though, is that we agreed

1236
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 4: that at some point he had four hundred million.

1237
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: We don't.

1238
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 4: You don't have to concede that. That's counting pockets. I'm

1239
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 4: telling you, in my opinion, that's counting pockets because the

1240
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 4: only thing I'm saying is do you still think he

1241
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 4: got the amount you said he had? Well, I don't

1242
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 4: know where you got it from. I don't care where

1243
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 4: you got it. So what's the point after the point

1244
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 4: after that is losing that amount of money?

1245
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: I believe comes with a level of paranoia. No, no, no,

1246
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: paranoia where I may not invest. I may not got

1247
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: them boys, Coach can't pee them. They spending that ship

1248
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: like they got that like it ain't they ain't see

1249
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: they ain't went through.

1250
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 4: Nothing like that yet where it's like some taxis or

1251
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 4: something that happened like oh shit, damn, we lost a

1252
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 4: chunk of money.

1253
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 5: There you go, and after people go through that, you

1254
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 5: prove it.

1255
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 2: My point, after people go through that, they might not

1256
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: be just spending crazy like like like there's no tomorrow exactly.

1257
00:55:59,719 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 3: Bro.

1258
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 2: So, when life hit one mogul in a way that

1259
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 2: it hasn't hit another mogul yet, you can't judge that

1260
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 2: first mogo and say, well, that means that he just ain't.

1261
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 2: He just ain't, you know, willing to invest or. He

1262
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 2: never was willing to invest. When life hits you a

1263
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: certain way, bro, you gotta understand that. That's like a

1264
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 2: good metaphor is when somebody come fresh out of jail.

1265
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 2: Bobby Schmurder come out of jail. People were so excited

1266
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 2: to see Bobby Schmurder that they instantly was like, where

1267
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: the music at? Where the music at?

1268
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: Man, I've been gone for seven years?

1269
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 3: Can I live first?

1270
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: Can I live a little bit?

1271
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 2: But these fans and these industry people are he falling

1272
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 2: off because he ain't dropping no new music, Madam. I'm

1273
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 2: trying to enjoy being a free man, and people will

1274
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 2: try to push that on you because for them, they're like, no,

1275
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: you're almost like my property. Like I feel like you're

1276
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: just here to serve me, and fans gotta really think

1277
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 2: about that. I'm about to take this kind of another direction,

1278
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 2: and if you don't want to go here, we don't

1279
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: have to. But it's your state. I was in Memphis

1280
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 2: the theay Big got killed. I was doing a speaking

1281
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 2: engagement at a church confany speaking of church, right man,

1282
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 2: I'm out eating. I hear the news and brother. The

1283
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 2: most toxic area of hip hop culture can often be

1284
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 2: found in the comments sections on Instagram comments. Yes, brother,

1285
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: I started looking as the news is getting reported, and

1286
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 2: you see all these fans who don't know Doult personally,

1287
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: who don't know God It personally, who are finding out

1288
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: that a grown black man just got his life taken

1289
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 2: from him, and they just in the comments making jokes

1290
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 2: putting adulph in emlojis they in the comments.

1291
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 5: I'm talking about jokes on jokes.

1292
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: Gifts on jips, And I'm seeing this, bro, and it's

1293
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 2: so inhumane that I'm just like this right here is

1294
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: something that we can't ignore.

1295
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 5: How we got here, and how we got here.

1296
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: Was if we constantly are putting music out and wanting

1297
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: fans to suppor there's glorifying a negative, toxic message having

1298
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 2: to deal with selling dope or killing people, then when

1299
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: it happens in real life, we also can't expect them

1300
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: to be empathetic and say, this is messed up, y'all.

1301
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 5: We need to stop this in our community.

1302
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 2: So the fans take it ten steps further and be like, yep,

1303
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 2: we glorifying that because this ain't nothing but a video

1304
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 2: game to us, and y'all are just our entertainment. That's tough, man,

1305
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: because you got people out here who are really losing

1306
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 2: their life and really losing their freedom. So how dare

1307
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: I come across like I'm against any of the artists

1308
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: in hip hop culture? I'm simply here saying, man, these

1309
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: fans don't love us as much as we might think. Brother, Yeah, no,

1310
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: it's all so don't be their mascot, you know, don't

1311
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 2: be their mascot. So let's not have an unhealthy relationship

1312
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 2: with fame and notoriety because a lot of artists.

1313
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 5: Oh it's another one, bro, we could do this all day.

1314
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 2: Another I gotta listen the same way that we sit

1315
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: here and we can entertain these things, and we were like, well,

1316
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 2: at least I'm getting paid in the process. Now I'm

1317
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 2: not starving for five days. That's why I got to

1318
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 2: put this message out. I ain't no bad dude, but

1319
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: this is just what's going on in the hoods. So

1320
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 2: I'm getting paid off of it. The same way we

1321
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 2: have an unhealthy attachment with money or with fam and success.

1322
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 2: These fans have an unhealthy attachment with their artists to

1323
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: the point where they will ride or die behind artists

1324
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: who they ain't never met before, who they going through

1325
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 2: with them. Artists are going through, but they'll be out

1326
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 2: here beefing with other people in real life over an

1327
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: artists that man, this artists don't know you.

1328
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 5: And that's problematic.

1329
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 3: Bro. Yeah, yeah.

1330
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 4: They choose size the fandom that the parasocial relationship is.

1331
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: Next level, man.

1332
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: And that's the part I think The point that I

1333
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 2: the point that I said I was gonna get to

1334
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: was we have to ask ourselves, how do we have

1335
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 2: a message, make money, and make sure that our mental

1336
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 2: is in a healthy space, because we want all three.

1337
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 2: Anybody if they say they don't want to make some money, right,

1338
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: anybody's lying if they say I want my mental health

1339
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 2: to be in a crappy place because I'm in the

1340
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: music industry.

1341
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: I was suicidal before. I told you that before we.

1342
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 2: Started while signed to Rcaight, while in your city in

1343
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 2: Nashville on the BT Black College Tour, you heard me

1344
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 2: and driving here and contemplating killing.

1345
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 5: Myself right there on the road by myself in the

1346
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 5: car with.

1347
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 2: A whole deal with notoriety, about to be on the

1348
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 2: red carpet for the BT Hip Hop Awards.

1349
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 5: I'm in the site for that year. You know all

1350
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 5: that stuff.

1351
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 2: Man, We have to figure out how can we make

1352
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: it to where positivity is profitable, to where progress is profitable,

1353
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: because ain't nothing wrong with a profit, Ain't nothing wrong

1354
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 2: with it. We should be able to do business in

1355
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: that healthy way we talked about that off. We should

1356
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 2: be able to be in hip hop. I think the

1357
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,959
Speaker 2: over glorification of getting to the bag like has become

1358
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 2: like the end goal in the North Star for people.

1359
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 2: I don't look up to jay Z just because he's

1360
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 2: a billionaire. I don't look up to Kanye just because

1361
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 2: he's a billionaire. Man, what's your character?

1362
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 3: Like?

1363
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: You heard me because that shouldn't matter as well, because

1364
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 2: you can say Donald Trump is a billionaire, but then

1365
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 2: people be like, well I hate him. You can say

1366
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 2: that this person is a billionaire, that there's out here

1367
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: bombing and killing thousands of people overseas in the wall,

1368
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So that is what has

1369
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: happened in our culture, bro Is. We can't act like

1370
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 2: any of this stuff is off the table. I'm not

1371
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 2: telling everybody to take a vow to poverty and become

1372
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: a priest and don't worry about making no money, bro Like.

1373
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: Because people are gonna do what works.

1374
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 4: Yes, people are gonna think that the female rappers are

1375
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 4: adopting what the male rappers did that worked for the

1376
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 4: male that worked for the male rappers, right. They doing

1377
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 4: the beef thing, They doing the talking about the slide.

1378
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 2: And telling sex about slide, beefing with each other. That's

1379
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 2: the big three.

1380
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 3: Right.

1381
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: So when we see these women doing this.

1382
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 5: I'm just like where the OG's at though, because once again.

1383
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: It's beneficial behavior.

1384
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 4: It's no one gonna be able to tell someone like

1385
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 4: a sexy red I have two three children.

1386
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: This is working, sir. Like you what are you saying?

1387
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: You're coming here saying it's working for who for her?

1388
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 5: Okay, but what is it doing to the millions of

1389
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 5: people that is that is brainwashing?

1390
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 4: First you first, you worry about you, then you worry

1391
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 4: about others. That's called individualism, right. People tend to say that,

1392
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 4: but everyone everyone worries about themself first, absolutely, Maslow's how

1393
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 4: it is.

1394
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: Of course self president, that's gonna be. That's gonna be

1395
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: right how it is.

1396
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 5: But if we truly want to make progress, we got

1397
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 5: to start to think about it.

1398
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: Well, we will make progress again. That's why I say

1399
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: there's time.

1400
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 4: There's a like we were talking about juice World and

1401
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 4: these people not getting a chance to actually develop. There's

1402
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 4: a developmental process. There's a learning curve that these people

1403
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 4: have to go through.

1404
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 3: Right.

1405
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 4: A lot of times we're critical of people that's in

1406
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 4: the twenties, like a sexy red which I do know

1407
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 4: how that some of that messaging comes off. But Yo,

1408
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 4: self preservation is the first thing I think. I ain't like, Yo,

1409
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 4: if that's working, who, how you gonna.

1410
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: Come tell her to stop that? It's gonna be rough

1411
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: to do. It's gonna be rough to tell. Even these

1412
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: guys around here. It's gonna be rough to.

1413
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 4: Say, Yo, you gotta stop hustling, bro, like you're hurting

1414
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 4: the community. Yeah, but I'm feeding my baby.

1415
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I can give you an alternative.

1416
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 4: That's what the that's what it is now. The alternative

1417
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 4: has to not only be an alternative, but effective.

1418
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 2: An effective alternative yeah, fair enough, but also it has

1419
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 2: to be something where we might tell that person, Yo,

1420
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 2: you might make less money than you is making hustling,

1421
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 2: but you're gonna gain exponentially emotionally, spiritually, and mentally because the.

1422
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: Sex you rate.

1423
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,439
Speaker 4: What would you give some game you can give sexy

1424
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 4: rec Because my thing about you is I think you're

1425
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,919
Speaker 4: gonna have to start just giving the game without being

1426
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 4: in these people presence. I think that that's gonna be

1427
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 4: your achilles heel for these people, even when they going

1428
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 4: behind closed doors to say, yeah, but he tells me

1429
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 4: you want to meet with a nigga. I don't want

1430
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 4: to like that sound like something is into that, you know,

1431
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 4: and I know it's not. I know, Bro, I'm listen

1432
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 4: because when I hear respect, when I hear Joe, when

1433
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 4: I hear when I hear the response of these people,

1434
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 4: I know, because how can he call you a cloud chaser.

1435
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,959
Speaker 2: Is irritating their demons, And when that happens, then people

1436
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 2: just gonna be like, I gotta take a low blow.

1437
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: I got a name call, I gotta make fun of it.

1438
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 3: Man.

1439
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 2: I'm not a disrespectful dude. Brother, I'm not out here.

1440
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 2: I don't walk around on or strapped or nothing like that.

1441
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 2: I'm not looking to fight nobody, but I'm trying to

1442
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 2: be like Jesus Christ. So with that being said, when

1443
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 2: it gets to the point where people come out and

1444
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 2: either threatening me physically or just want to make fun

1445
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 2: of me and make fun of my accent and say

1446
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 2: I'm a basket head and all this type of stuff,

1447
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 2: or when people want to instantly call me a cloud chaser,

1448
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 2: something about my spirit is irritating your demons.

1449
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 4: You don't think it's your words what you said to him, Yo, Bro,

1450
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 4: you said something to me like you said something about mine.

1451
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm over here, minding my business. We just dropped the album.

1452
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 4: If I'm making ross, we just dropped the album, were

1453
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 4: doing our little It depends on what gets said.

1454
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 5: Because if somebody calls me gay tomorrow, I'm sitting there

1455
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 5: like you clown.

1456
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: Not if they're on Breakfast Club if they have a

1457
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: breakfast club.

1458
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 4: Joe said something about you that was little to none,

1459
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 4: and you came and responded little to nothing. Well, I

1460
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 4: mean I ain't saying yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to

1461
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 4: take that back, right, because that's not little to none.

1462
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 4: What I mean is in the grand scheme of what

1463
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 4: you've been able to accomplish, that dude saying that over

1464
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:21,479
Speaker 4: there didn't stop nothing.

1465
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't affect.

1466
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 4: Anything, right, It deserves a response from a market standpoint, right,

1467
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 4: But in the grand scheme, take my.

1468
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 5: Point, which is why I said I could still hug

1469
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 5: Joe Budden to this day.

1470
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 2: Like that's why you didn't understand when I say that,

1471
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 2: it's because that didn't bother me on that type of level.

1472
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: Too, I would. But intentions are important.

1473
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 5: Intentions are very important.

1474
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 3: Ye.

1475
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 5: So if you.

1476
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 4: Intended to to to to chop me down, that's why

1477
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 4: I don't want to speak to some of these other

1478
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 4: that's what and I want to I want you to

1479
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 4: help me with that because I have no I have

1480
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 4: no desire to know do your blessings come from any

1481
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 4: of them people?

1482
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 1: No?

1483
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 3: God?

1484
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: Because of that, your attempts.

1485
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 2: To chop me down simply a waste of your valuable

1486
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 2: time here on earth because you're not gonna chop me

1487
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: down because you don't feed me.

1488
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can't starve me. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

1489
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: you can't fuck you can't do nothing with me but

1490
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: your intentions.

1491
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1492
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 2: And because of them intentions, it's like, all right, that

1493
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 2: might mean that we ain't gonna be best friends at

1494
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 2: the end of the day.

1495
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 4: And I can't hug you, and I can't hug you,

1496
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 4: and we not see that's in the church. It feels

1497
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 4: like there's a lot of fake hugging this stuff.

1498
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 5: Oh okay, okay, Well with Jesus, nothing was fake in

1499
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 5: the church.

1500
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 2: There's a lot of fake, a lot of stuff, a

1501
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,439
Speaker 2: lot of fake, you know, a whole bunch of types

1502
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 2: of behavior.

1503
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 5: But there's also a lot of real behavior.

1504
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: With that being said, Bro.

1505
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 2: Judas, Judas sold Jesus out. Man, he gave a drop

1506
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 2: on on Jesus. Lord, like look this way, yeah, y'all

1507
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 2: come get him. You know what I'm saying, y'all take him,

1508
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 2: y'all go kill him for thirty pieces of silver. Right,

1509
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 2: Judas did that.

1510
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 1: Guess what Jesus did.

1511
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 5: Wash that man feet at the Last Supper, wash his feet.

1512
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm still sitting.

1513
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 3: I know, I know.

1514
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 2: Lord, that's that's how that's how high the bar has

1515
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 2: been set. That's why I'm always gonna be hult.

1516
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm not I swear respect that bro. That's I got

1517
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: a lot of respect for that man.

1518
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 4: And I'm digging into it because I'm trying to get

1519
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 4: some information to incorporate some of it. You see what

1520
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 4: I'm saying, because I don't I don't want to be

1521
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 4: the shell that I am. But it's it's it's safe.

1522
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 4: It keep you safe. I don't hug a nigga, that

1523
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 4: just saying what about me?

1524
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 3: Bro?

1525
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 2: That's that's because that's my north star. God is my

1526
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: north star. So I'm looking at all of the behavior

1527
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 2: that's already been modeled. Man, Jesus did this already.

1528
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: Cool how he handled this, So how I'm gonna handle

1529
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: a podcast I'm talking about it?

1530
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 5: Come on, man, I'm gonna.

1531
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Speaker 1: Tell you some real This thing you want so bad

1532
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: though they're trying to tag down.

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01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know what, it ain't that I wanted.

1534
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 5: First of all, I'm a made man. I got it.

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01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 4: Now, this thing you got, but they can affect it,

1536
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 4: they destroy it, they can affect I think I just

1537
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 4: I think I just be sitting there, like if you

1538
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 4: know that, you Lebrin, if you know that you Steph

1539
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 4: Curry and you see somebody talking about you, and you're

1540
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 4: just like, man, But what you can't do is stop

1541
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 4: these balls.

1542
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 2: I'm about to spit on the Loon Show, or stop

1543
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 2: this from the Hood to Harvard album, or stop this

1544
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 2: this hip hop children's book. David found his sling shot

1545
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 2: that y'all need to go get that. Then't change the

1546
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 2: lives of thousands and thousands of people independently, you know

1547
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So with all that being said, I

1548
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 2: think I'm just in a place now where I wasn't

1549
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: there thirteen years ago. When I'm in that room and

1550
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 2: I'm seeing inconsistencies in people's behavior and character.

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01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 5: But they got all the leverage because I'm like, I

1552
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 5: might need this person.

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01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 2: I ain't there, bro I ain't there, And I want

1554
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 2: to tell you this, this is just another example the

1555
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 2: dudes they held the gun to my head.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: When I was in college, man, like I said, it's

1558
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 2: somebody that's pretty pretty well known who you know, some

1559
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 2: people might know. I would say a good bit of

1560
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:59,879
Speaker 2: people will probably know who they were, This person's partner,

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01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Me and this person since then,

1562
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 2: because this is a like I said, a public figure

1563
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 2: have crossed paths at least five times in life, right

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Speaker 2: and