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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: Here we are welcome in One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. Good to have you with us

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Speaker 2: as we plow through a hump day edition of the

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Speaker 2: show up until three pm. Yeah, I mean we're at

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Speaker 2: that period, Steve, where we're waiting for the next off

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Speaker 2: season shoe to drop in the NFL, and that's obviously

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Speaker 2: the Combine next week, So we kind of inch our

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Speaker 2: way towards that. We're awaiting decisions by NFL clubs across

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Speaker 2: the league. Is anyone gonna make use of the franchise tag,

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Speaker 2: anybody gonna clip people off the roster to get into

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Speaker 2: cap compliance. It's that kind of season that is beginning now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, like we saw some minor ones happen already.

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Speaker 2: You know, the Patriots got rid of a couple of people.

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Speaker 2: Tracy Walker, veteran safety the Lions is gonna get released

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Speaker 2: by them. It's and more names are coming down the

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Speaker 2: pike here. They just have to.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a floodgate when it happens. Flood all

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Speaker 3: everybody's gonna do it at the exact same time. There's

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Speaker 3: gonna be some surprises from every team. I had some

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Speaker 3: non surprises, some big names, all of that stuff. And

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Speaker 3: then there's gonna be a ton of restructuring. There's you know,

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Speaker 3: they got a lot of business to do before this

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Speaker 3: thing flips over the calendar year, so they'll get started.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna hear about it all the same time we're

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Speaker 3: gonna have. It's gonna be it might be quiet during

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Speaker 3: the during the combine week, next week a little bit,

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Speaker 3: but it'll pick.

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Speaker 2: Up right Uh, It'll pick up quickly because not only

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Speaker 2: do you have the situation where team's got to get

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Speaker 2: into cap compliance, you're also gonna have meetings where at

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Speaker 2: the combine agents are gonna start talking to you know,

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Speaker 2: their own free agents, perspective free agents, and what you're

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Speaker 2: gonna have is people getting down to business or at

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Speaker 2: least squaring away parameters for whether or not they get here,

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Speaker 2: they sign their own, whether they're gonna be in the

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Speaker 2: market to compete for a guy that they like, that

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, a ton of these conversations are happening

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Speaker 3: now behind closed doors, and they're not talking about it.

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Speaker 3: They're talking to all these guys, all the gms are

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Speaker 3: and is that deadline gets closer, you're gonna find out

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Speaker 3: they've been talking like nine guys about redoing their deals

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Speaker 3: and all of this stuff. So it'll all drop when

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Speaker 3: it's time and we'll find out about it, probably about

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Speaker 3: the same time everybody else does.

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Speaker 2: So there you have it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's that time of year. It's that time

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Speaker 3: of year.

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Speaker 2: One interesting story that we spotted on NFL dot com

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Speaker 2: kind of an epitaph, if you will, on the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three season and basically through research on next Gen stats,

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Speaker 2: among other things, the write up basically laid out how

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Speaker 2: a defining theme in the twenty twenty three season was

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Speaker 2: pass pressure, with it being more of a quarterback league

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Speaker 2: than ever before. Kansas City not only had the best

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Speaker 2: quarterback in the league, but they also had one of

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Speaker 2: the most effective ways to generate pass pressure in the league.

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Speaker 2: And it kind of came on late in the season

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Speaker 2: for them. But just to kind of lay it all out,

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs finished second in the league in sacks. That

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Speaker 2: is not the end all be all in determining effectiveness

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Speaker 2: with pass pressure, but that effectiveness in getting sacks was

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Speaker 2: due in part to the scheming of their defense. And

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Speaker 2: we know defensive coordinator Steve Spagnolo has gotten plenty of

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Speaker 2: accolades this season, and deservedly so. He was excellent in

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Speaker 2: one particular area of pass pressure, and that was generating

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Speaker 2: free pass rushers. And I think it's going to be

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Speaker 2: what every other NFL club in their defensive stats, will

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Speaker 2: be trying to recreate in some form of fashion next year. Now, naturally,

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Speaker 2: everybody remembers from the Super Bowl Chris Jones unblocked pressure

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Speaker 2: that forced brock Perty to get rid of the ball

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Speaker 2: early when he had a wide open receiver in the

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Speaker 2: end zone and Juwan Jennings and he overthrew him because

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Speaker 2: of that pressure with Jones coming clean. What you may

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Speaker 2: not know that was the ninth unblocked pressure of.

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Speaker 2: One game nine unblocked pressures by the Chiefs, two more

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Speaker 2: the season, and all of them coming on blitz calls.

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Speaker 2: So they naturally are going to credit Spagnolo for that,

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Speaker 2: And it was a season long theme of schemed pressure

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Speaker 2: by Spagnolo and his unit on the season generated seventy

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Speaker 2: three unblocked pressures and an unblocked pressure rate of over

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Speaker 2: eleven percent in the regular season top in the league.

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Speaker 2: Cornerback Trent McDuffie led the NFL with eleven unblocked pressures

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Speaker 3: Here's why that's not the think about this though. You're

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Speaker 3: Steve Spagnolo and you got this Chiefs defense, and you're

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Speaker 3: and you and you roll into this game against the

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers in the Super Bowl, and you look

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Speaker 3: at who you're playing, this brock Purty kid. Then you

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Speaker 3: mister irrelevant. The great story is the Cinderella Guy. One

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Speaker 3: of the things about the Super Bowl leading up to it,

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Speaker 3: and this is why you It drives you mad if

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Speaker 3: you're one of these guys that's silly enough to bet

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Speaker 3: on this game. Going into that game, nobody in the

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Speaker 3: league was better against the blitz than Brock Purdy. When

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Speaker 3: you when you sent pressure, he beat you almost consistently

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Speaker 3: better than anybody else. He was money when he got

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Speaker 3: pressure when he had blitzers coming. So you're going in

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Speaker 3: this Super Bowl and you're Steve Spagnola going like you

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Speaker 3: just gonna say, I don't care, we got that, we're

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Speaker 3: going to gets the best guy at beating the blitz,

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Speaker 3: and he doesn't care. He sends him anyway.

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Speaker 2: There's one thing to beating pressure. Beating pressure that's coming

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Speaker 2: a different animal. Maybe not. But you got a guy

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Speaker 2: account for him. Well, that's I think that changes the

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Speaker 2: conversation a little bit for a quarterback, doesn't it. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it does. And here's where they can anyway.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of every time, Like everything in this

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of nuance here. Unblocked okay, but if

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Speaker 3: you're unblocked and only sending five, that's a problem with

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Speaker 3: the offense. That's a problem because you fool them. That's

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Speaker 3: that's a coordinator. That's when you send when you're blocking five,

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Speaker 3: we got five blockers and you send six. Okay, that's easy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you should win, you should win.

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Speaker 3: But when you're sending like four and getting an unblocked

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Speaker 3: someplace else, that's a coordinator. And that's where the whole

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Speaker 3: send one more rusher, then you have blockers. They you

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Speaker 3: that's why Spagnolo deserves a lot of credit. Now, the Chiefs,

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Speaker 3: you know they've got some We all know they've got

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Speaker 3: some dudes. Chris Jones is the real deal. McDuffie's the

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Speaker 3: real deal, obviously, as Brunna just said. But Steve Spagnolo

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Speaker 3: deserves a lot of credit because that they're going in

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Speaker 3: on a guy in brock Purty, like I said, who

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Speaker 3: And they fooled them. They just fooled them. They got

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Here is here's the thing that highlighted the importance

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Speaker 2: of being able to generate unblocked pressures for me as

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Speaker 2: it pertained to the Chiefs. And I'll read directly from

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Speaker 2: the story which was put together by the end next

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Speaker 2: Gen stat analytics people at NFL dot Com. It says

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Speaker 2: this was the story of the twenty twenty three Kansas

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Speaker 2: City Chiefs, the worst offense of the Andy Reid Mahomes Era,

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Speaker 2: a relative distinction when compared to most offenses around the league,

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Speaker 2: was constantly given second, third, and even fourth chances by

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Speaker 2: Kansas City's elite defense, which accentuated how pressure does not

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Speaker 2: appear uniform across the league. Rather it comes in a

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Speaker 2: multitude of ways. Now, they excelled in getting unblocked pass rushers.

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Speaker 2: Now San Francisco is a very successful pass rush defense too.

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Speaker 2: They did it in a much different way with elite

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Speaker 2: talent up front. Chris Jones is an elite talent, but

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Speaker 2: beyond him, Carloftis had an above average season at ten

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Speaker 2: for them. But beyond those two guys, it was generated

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Speaker 2: largely through blitz and scheme. Niners just had. There's a

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Speaker 2: plus alpha males, right, So that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to do that. There's thirty two teams in

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Speaker 3: the league and there's not enough. There isn't one hundred

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Speaker 1: I think that's right.

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Speaker 3: Hundred, Yeah, there isn't one hundred and twenty eight pass rushers.

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Speaker 3: When you go four for each team, there's not one

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Speaker 2: Not to mention the fact that you don't have the

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Speaker 3: That's right, and you can't pay them. You know, if

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Speaker 3: Maybe you could get six of them in one team

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Speaker 3: That's why, like you go back in time, you go

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Speaker 3: back to the Legion of Boom in Seattle in two

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Speaker 3: win against a Denver team that had maybe the greatest

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Speaker 3: Peyton Manning, Wes Welker, Damarius Tom all those guys. They

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Speaker 3: were killing it. They were killing everybody. They Peyton's got

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Speaker 3: fifty five plus touchdowns or something like sixty five touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. They had the unbelievable year of all years.

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Speaker 3: They get to the Super Bowl and they get squashed.

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Speaker 3: This they got forty three day embarrassed. They got embarrassed,

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Speaker 3: and you know why because Seattle had four guys rushing

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Speaker 2: But the problem is in this league, you don't have

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Speaker 2: of subscribe to the thought that, Okay, there's gms out there,

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Speaker 2: Brandon Bean included, who have said the following you can

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Speaker 2: never have enough pass rushers. I would say, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna turn that statement on its head. If you can

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Speaker 2: never have enough pass rushers, why bother keep accumulating them,

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Speaker 2: Go accumulate some more offense and try to outscore those guys.

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Speaker 2: If you can never have enough pass rushers, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. I'm trying to turn that statement on

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Speaker 2: its head. If you can never have enough, why keep

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Speaker 2: accumulating them, Use your assets on the other side of

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Speaker 2: the ball, and just try to out score. Because nobody's

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Speaker 2: been able to beat Mahomes with great pass rushers. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, think about the Niners. They not only had

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Speaker 2: it still didn't make a difference. That's a good point.

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Speaker 2: Now here's the other part. Just you know, I realize

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of talking out of both sides of my mouth.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm laying out what Next Gen Stats said. The

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Speaker 2: theme of twenty twenty three was I don't necessarily subscribe

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: Just well, I hate to say it best where we're at.

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Speaker 2: Yeah now, And again, all that being said, I don't

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Speaker 2: Probably very good. I mean, it's it's no accident that

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're ever going to get to

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Speaker 3: It's just to me.

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Speaker 2: To me, it's a fruitless pursuit. I'm not saying you

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Speaker 2: I don't think that that's possible anymore. The quarterbacks are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll say this too, I think, more so

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Speaker 3: I mean on point, and your whole staff. They got

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Speaker 3: got to have players who were so advanced mentally, like

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Speaker 3: That's a big order. That's a big order.

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Speaker 2: When you've got some of the quarterbacks in this conference.

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Speaker 3: Let's just score. Just my mom, just go throw it.

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Speaker 3: Just throw it. I can't throw it, just throw it.

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Speaker 2: What roster needs should the Bills focus on in free agency?

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Speaker 2: We know that is the first step to refortifying their

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Speaker 2: Aight oh three oh five point fifty one eight eight

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Speaker 2: It's not a pressing need. But defensive tackle and defensive end,

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Speaker 2: not that they really ever do anyway, but you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say the Bills have done a real nice

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Speaker 2: That's an affordable position where if you do a long

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Speaker 3: Year, right, And I think that's we've seen it happen.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about it a lot. They're gonna fill all

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Speaker 3: They probably will. They're gonna have some experience. Obviously, they're

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Speaker 3: and they will do that during free agency, even if

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Speaker 3: and it's like, yes, you know what, we're gonna take

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Speaker 3: the why we're gonna wait on the wide receiver until

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Speaker 3: sixty We're gonna take a d lineman here, or we're

434
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Speaker 3: gonna take a guard here, or we're gonna take a

435
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Speaker 3: linebacker here. We're gonna take a safety. We're gonna take

436
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Speaker 3: the best safety in the draft right now. That kind

437
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Speaker 3: of thing. You can do that and not feel like

438
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Speaker 3: you're crashing and burning. That still doesn't mean I you know,

439
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Speaker 3: barn And aren't going to be standing on the table

440
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Speaker 3: for a wide receiver or two or two. But they'll

441
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Speaker 3: be able to do that and we'll feel like they

442
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Speaker 3: still got us a chance to win. So I mean

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Speaker 3: that's where we're sitting, and now we do we kind

444
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Speaker 3: of mark time until the you know, combine next week.

445
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Speaker 3: See what we're see what we're up against.

446
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Speaker 2: What roster needs should the Bills focus on in free agency?

447
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Speaker 2: Got an open line for you at eight oh three

448
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Speaker 2: zero five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two

449
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Speaker 2: five fifty the number to get on board. We should

450
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Speaker 2: also mention coming up in our number two for NFL GM,

451
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Speaker 2: Randy Mueller is going to join us and we will

452
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Speaker 2: get his thoughts on the upcoming free agent market. As

453
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Speaker 2: a matter of fact, he ranked his top one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty NFL free agents. There are some Bills on

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Speaker 2: that list, so we'll talk to him about that and

456
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Speaker 2: the state of free agency because, as we were talking

457
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Speaker 2: about yesterday, Steve, half the leak is over the cap,

458
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Speaker 2: so there are gonna be a lot of teams shedding

459
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Speaker 2: players and thrusting even more talent into the free agent market.

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Speaker 2: How does that change the complexion of free agency in

461
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Speaker 2: terms of supply and demand. That'll be something we're to

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Speaker 2: get into with Randy as well. So we look forward

463
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Speaker 2: to that conversation in our number two. But in the meantime,

464
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Speaker 2: it's you and us on the phone lines at eight

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Speaker 2: oh three oh five point fifty one eighty eight five

466
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Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty the number to get on board.

467
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Speaker 2: What roster need should the bills focus on in free agency?

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Speaker 2: What what hits the top of the list for you, Steve?

469
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Speaker 2: What d line, particulary numbers, interior? Yeah, they just don't

470
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Speaker 2: have any bodies over. They've got four guys, and you know,

471
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Speaker 2: most of them are unproven, and and even in the

472
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Speaker 2: second in the with the exception of Vaughan Vaughn, you're

473
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Speaker 2: still kind of waiting to see. So there's not only

474
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Speaker 2: do you have very few people to line up, the

475
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Speaker 2: guys that are there are thin. Greg Russeau, well you

476
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Speaker 2: got Rousseau, Miller, Kingsley Jonathan, and.

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Speaker 3: You and I are the only people who know who

478
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Speaker 3: Kinglely Jonathan is, right, I talked all I've I talked

479
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Speaker 3: to everybody. All my buddies they all you know, you

480
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Speaker 3: can bet I mean you're the same way. Yeah, all

481
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Speaker 3: my friends, all my friends I like golf with and

482
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Speaker 3: play you know, play golf with and smoke cigars with.

483
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Speaker 3: They're all like I tell them Kingsley Jonathan, and they're like,

484
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Speaker 3: who is that. Yeah, I'm telling you. So that's how

485
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Speaker 3: thin it is out there.

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Speaker 2: Right, and it's justice thin at defensive tackle where it's

487
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Speaker 2: at Oliver. Yeah, I mean you have you have a

488
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Speaker 2: guy like you have a guy like Ilianku who got

489
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Speaker 2: signed to a reserve future contract. I mean he's on

490
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Speaker 2: the roster, but he's largely been a practice squad player

491
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Speaker 2: who's been called up when there's an injury shortage at

492
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Speaker 2: the defensive tackle position. So really it's I mean, in

493
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Speaker 2: terms of fifty three man roster guys, it's Ed Oliver

494
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Speaker 2: at defensive tackle. That's it. Eight oh three, five point fifty.

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Speaker 2: Let's get on the phone lines here and we lead

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Speaker 2: off with Mark in West Seneca. What do you got

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Speaker 2: for us? Mark here on One Bill's Life.

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Speaker 5: Good afternoon, guys, how are you today? That's good, that's good.

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 5: As far as what they should do, and I just

501
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Speaker 5: want to comment on your opening conversation you had, which

502
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Speaker 5: was awesome, I think they should try and sign and

503
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Speaker 5: wrap bring them back as I think they can bring

504
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Speaker 5: them back at a reasonable price. I think they should

505
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Speaker 5: hold on a player for depth, and I think they

506
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Speaker 5: should try and sign maybe a mid range to maybe

507
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 5: a little bit above mid range safety in free agency

508
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Speaker 5: that they can bring in at a reasonable price, somebody

509
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Speaker 5: that is either has been a starter or has been

510
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Speaker 5: on the fringes starting in and out or whatever. Maybe

511
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Speaker 5: find one mid range defensive tackle, but then concentrate on

512
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Speaker 5: in the draft on wide receiver and defensive line as

513
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Speaker 5: many picks as they have to and fill the roster

514
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Speaker 5: that way. But there's been a lot of talk in

515
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Speaker 5: the last few days about should they trade back or

516
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Speaker 5: should they trade up, depending on I don't think they're

517
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Speaker 5: going to stay where they are, and listening to your conversation,

518
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Speaker 5: I think it is an argument for trading up, because

519
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Speaker 5: if you're going to try and outscore teams and have

520
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Speaker 5: an average to good defense and win that way, then

521
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Speaker 5: you have a better chance of hitting on an elite

522
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Speaker 5: talent if you trade up. And I think I talked

523
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Speaker 5: to you guys about this the other day, trying to

524
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Speaker 5: get in somewhere between eighteen and twenty two, which we

525
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Speaker 5: think maybe there's going to be another elite or just

526
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Speaker 5: below elite talent at that spot at wide receiver, then

527
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Speaker 5: I think they should do that as long as they

528
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Speaker 5: can do it without giving up next year's number one

529
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Speaker 5: pick if they can do that some way, And I

530
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Speaker 5: know Brandon does not like to give up future picks,

531
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Speaker 5: but this may be if you're going to go this

532
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Speaker 5: route the only way you're going to get up there

533
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Speaker 5: and get an elite talent, because I not real comfortable

534
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Speaker 5: with sitting at twenty eight or even moving back and

535
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Speaker 5: then saying, Okay, we're going to get any above average

536
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Speaker 5: talent for Josh by doing that.

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Speaker 6: So I'd like to see move up.

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Speaker 5: Now's the time to do it. If you're going to

539
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Speaker 5: try and move forward without scoring teams, then and I

540
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Speaker 5: think that might be a change in philosophy within the organization.

541
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Speaker 5: I know Brandon and Sean have always tried to build

542
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Speaker 5: up the defense, so if they're going to go that route,

543
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Speaker 5: it may definitely be a change in strategy. So I'll

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Speaker 5: sit back and listen.

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Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Yeah, sure thing, Mark. I think the proof

546
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Speaker 2: will be in the pudding. I think that steven E's

547
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: change in philosophy. We've had that philosophy last year. I

548
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Speaker 2: don't know that the organization has changed or all through

549
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: their philosophy. I think the proof will be in the

550
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Speaker 2: putting in what they do in free agency, and probably

551
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: more importantly in the draft. There's no secret that defensive

552
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: line and wide receiver are high priced positions. So it

553
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Speaker 2: would behoove the Bills to address positions like safety, like

554
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: Mark said, in free agency, and then focus more on

555
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Speaker 2: your defensive line in the draft as well as wide receiver.

556
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Speaker 2: But there are so many holes on the defensive line.

557
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Speaker 2: You have to invest somewhere in free agency just to

558
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Speaker 2: get enough bodies. You can't draft ten defensive linemen.

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Speaker 3: It's tough to because think about it that last year

560
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 3: the Bills needed some interior offensive lineman. Well, okay, and

561
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Speaker 3: you're twenty million dollars over the cap. Well, okay, you

562
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Speaker 3: get a little cap room. You can spend big and

563
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Speaker 3: still afford a great guard, which is what they got

564
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Speaker 3: in Connor McGovern. Then you can draft a guy. So,

565
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Speaker 3: but those aren't money positions. Pass rusher, defensive tackle, and

566
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Speaker 3: wide receiver, that's a money position. Everybody is always in

567
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Speaker 3: the market for those guys. They're hard to come by,

568
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Speaker 3: and that's why you've really got to go. You've got

569
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Speaker 3: to be fortunate, no question, But you also may have

570
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Speaker 3: to make a bold move in this draft. And like

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Speaker 3: we said, if they if they package twenty eight pick

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Speaker 3: and the number sixty pick, which is their first and

573
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Speaker 3: second rounders. They have enough, that's enough value on the

574
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Speaker 3: draft chart to go up to as high as seventeen

575
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Speaker 3: in the draft, but then you don't have a second

576
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Speaker 3: round pick. You go all the way to like ninety

577
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Speaker 3: nine before you get a pick.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's gonna be tough and then real quick. My

579
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Speaker 2: hope is that with this so called theme of twenty

580
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Speaker 2: twenty three and generating pressure, my hope is along with

581
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Speaker 2: the quarterbacks and the offensive tackles, teams gravitate towards those

582
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Speaker 2: edge rushers in the first round to push more of

583
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Speaker 2: the receiver talent down to where the Bills are sitting

584
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Speaker 2: in the bottom you towarter of the round.

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Speaker 3: We're talking like less than a handful of guys that

586
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Speaker 3: you really want, I think can.

587
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Speaker 2: Wide out and that which is why they may have

588
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Speaker 2: to move.

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Speaker 3: And there's five handfuls of players that got to go

590
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Speaker 3: before that.

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Speaker 2: Got to take a break here. When we come back,

592
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Speaker 2: more of your phone calls. We'll lead off with Mike

593
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Speaker 2: in East Aurora and others holding at eight oh three

594
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Speaker 2: five point fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two, five

595
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: fifty what roster needs should the Bills focus on in

596
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Speaker 2: free agency next month? You let us know more of

597
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Speaker 2: your phone calls when we return here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Klaida Helfit's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, back

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Speaker 2: here on a day edition to One Bill's Live. Chris

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Speaker 2: Round Steve Tasker with you and discussing what you feel

601
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: the roster needs should the Bills focus on in free agency?

602
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: What are those? And it might differ from where you

603
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: think they should focus in the draft, So you let

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Speaker 2: us know what roster needs of the Bills focus on

605
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Speaker 2: in free agency first before even getting to the draft.

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Speaker 2: Eight oh three h five fifty. Got an open line

607
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Speaker 2: for you there if you want to join us. If

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Speaker 2: you can't give us a phone call, you can always

609
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Speaker 2: hit us up on the tweets sheet at one Bills Live.

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Speaker 2: But let's get back to the phones where Mike and

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Speaker 2: East Aurora is waiting.

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Speaker 6: What's up Mike, Hi, guys, how you doing good?

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Speaker 7: I think the Bills need to focus first off, I

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Speaker 7: really believe that because of the cap situation that we're in,

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Speaker 7: we should trade down in the draft and see if

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Speaker 7: we can get second this year, a second next year

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Speaker 7: and a third this year.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if that works, but I like that.

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Speaker 7: I think we need to focus. We need to make

621
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Speaker 7: a splash with a wide receiver because I think we

622
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 7: need to uh focus the remain the remainder on the

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Speaker 7: defensive line. But I think the splash needs to be

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Speaker 7: made first.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 7: I'm not sure who we can go for. I mean,

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Speaker 7: Samuels maybe, but I like Brown, but I don't know

628
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Speaker 7: what he's gonna He's gonna he's gonna demand.

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Speaker 2: Are you talking about Noah Brown or no, I'm talking

630
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: about oh Marque's Hollywood Brown?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, I understand where you're coming from, Mike.

633
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Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. Based on what Brandon Bean

634
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Speaker 2: said at his season ending press conference, I would not

635
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Speaker 2: expect any splashes in free agency. He pretty much said,

636
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Speaker 2: don't look from any big splashes from us because they

637
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Speaker 2: just don't have the financial flexibility to do it. I

638
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: don't expect the Bills to be all that active in

639
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Speaker 2: the first week of free agency at all.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't either. I'll say this. You go down. You

642
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 3: know the wide receiver list. Now here's the thing. You

643
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: can say whatever you want. You can conjure this all

644
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: up any way you want. But the simple fact of

645
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 3: the matter is the free agent class starts with Mike Evans,

646
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Speaker 3: Odell Beckham, Junior Curtis, Samuel Tyler Boyd and goes all

647
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: the way down through all the guys that have been

648
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Speaker 3: on the bills in the last couple of a couple

649
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Speaker 3: of years, and it goes down to you know, like

650
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Speaker 3: Jalen Moore, Bow Melton and Darius Shephard. I mean there's

651
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Speaker 3: and there's like sixty there's like seventy guys, seventy two guys,

652
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Speaker 3: seventy three guys on that list, and they get longer

653
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Speaker 3: through Paris Campbell, DJ Clark and the guys we've been

654
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 3: talking and all those guys. Mikole Hardman is gonna be

655
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 3: out there, Braxton Barrios, who's been in the AFC East.

656
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 3: So yes, there's gonna be guys that maybe you recognize,

657
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 3: but these guys are available for a reason. Now, there

658
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 3: may be one in there, but at face value you

659
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: don't know. But there may be one in there that's

660
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: been had the wrong atmosphere, the wrong coaching, wrong opportunity,

661
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: the wrong opportunity, wrong roster whatever, the wrong injury at

662
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: the wrong time, and you may grab the guy and

663
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 3: he turns into a really good player. But that's a

664
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Speaker 3: roll of the dice. So you're not gonna get You're

665
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: not gonna make a splash with the wide receiver. You're

666
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 3: just not. There's just no way I can see the

667
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 3: Bills doing that.

668
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: And look, I understand why fans want that, because what

669
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean has had to do is operate in a

670
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: budgetary way in trying to find someone that may pop

671
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: on the roster. It didn't happen last year with Trent Sherfield,

672
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: who had a nice season as the third wide receiver

673
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: with the Dolphins, had over five hundred yards receiving. I

674
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: think he had thirty something receptions and two or three touchdowns,

675
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Speaker 2: and I think there was the thought there that, oh,

676
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 2: maybe this guy's somebody that's on the ascent. If we

677
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: give him an opportunity, maybe he can maximize that here

678
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: And that never manifested itself at all. And that's the

679
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: risk you take when you have to take a budgetary

680
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 2: approach to free agency. Now, that doesn't mean that getting

681
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: a proven player is a surefire answer either the guy

682
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: could you know, rip up his knee in weak two

683
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: and you're in the same place. Right, But because of

684
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: where they are on the cap, they have to take

685
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 2: a budgetary approach and try to be strategic. Now, what's

686
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: the better play. Is the better play getting a thirty

687
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: two year old Emmanuel Sanders on a one year deal

688
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 2: or getting a twenty six year old Trench Surefield on

689
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: a one year deal? Our recent history would tell you

690
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: go with the older guy, who's the more proven commodity.

691
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: But there are more than There's more than one way

692
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 2: to skin a categy.

693
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 3: Now we're going to be limited on free agent dollars,

694
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 3: but I would almost to go to the point they're

695
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 3: gonna have million bucks to spend, no question. But here's

696
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 3: the thing. I think some of these signings may come

697
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 3: after June first, when they when they free up more money.

698
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Speaker 3: And I would say, if they do clear up like

699
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: ten million bucks worth of room to spend, you may

700
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,959
Speaker 3: spend it on ten guys at the same spot and say, Okay,

701
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 3: you guys, let's go come in and compete and just

702
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: pick the best one. Draft picks, mid free agents, whatever

703
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 3: you call them, what you want, I think you cast

704
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 3: a wide net and sign as many guys as you

705
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: can at some key spots and get the kind of

706
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 3: guys who are ready to grind it out for not

707
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: just for training camp to earn a spot, but also

708
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 3: to earn and keep grinding out to get playing time.

709
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: Those are the kind of guys you kind of want

710
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: on this squad, Guys that are going to be in

711
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: there with their nose in it for you know, the

712
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: next ten months, really grinding and out. I would cast

713
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 3: as wide a net as you possibly can and instead

714
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 3: of throwing all your eggs into it a basket, like

715
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Speaker 3: with Odell Beckham Junior, who may take a deal that

716
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: any deal he can get after the season he had

717
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 3: in Baltimore.

718
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: Did not live up to a fifteen million dollars contract at.

719
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Speaker 3: All, and he knows that as well as anybody. So

720
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: you may get a guy like that, but that's fine.

721
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: But what are you gonna do when he comes in

722
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: and he pulls a ham, he blows a knee, and

723
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 3: now he's the only one you brought in because you

724
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: paid him. Bring in like nineteen guys and let him

725
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 3: have it out and get the best one. There's all

726
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: these guys have some chops there. All these you don't get.

727
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: This is a list. You can't get on unless you've

728
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 3: got some credentials. So let him prove him. I say,

729
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 3: cast a wide net, get the kind of guys you want,

730
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 3: with the physical traits you want, and pick the best

731
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Speaker 3: group you want for the rest for the regular season.

732
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Speaker 3: I am not a fan of one high priced guye.

733
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Speaker 4: And go for it.

734
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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and to Tom and

735
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Speaker 2: Lackawana nex. What's up to?

736
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Speaker 6: Hey, guys? A couple of quick questions. If we get

737
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Speaker 6: up to seventeen or eighteen for first and the sixtieth,

738
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Speaker 6: what do we get for the twenty eighth and the

739
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 6: ninety ninth? And is that one tradeable or not? Because

740
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Speaker 6: of competent it's compository, you.

741
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: Can, you can trade compensatory picks. That rule change about

742
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 2: three four years ago.

743
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: Yeah you can.

744
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 9: Yeah.

745
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 6: So when you guys are getting you don't you know,

746
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Speaker 6: get a chance to look it up. What you know,

747
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 6: let you know later or whatever.

748
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Speaker 3: You want to know what twenty eight and ninety nine

749
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: or together worth? Okay, and how far they could move

750
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: up from twenty eighth? All right, let me see.

751
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: If you want to tell me why you want to

752
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 2: hold onto your two.

753
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 6: To get either a defensive tackle or another wide receiver

754
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Speaker 6: or possibly a corner if they don't think Elon's going

755
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Speaker 6: to pan out.

756
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tend to think that Elan is going to

757
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: be given every opportunity to earn a starting job. I

758
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: mean your top three back there right now, you know, Elim,

759
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: Benford and Rasul Douglas who's still under contract, although he

760
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: may need to get his contract amended a little bit

761
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: for some cap relief. Those are your top three for

762
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: outside corner. Obviously, going into training camp right now, I

763
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Speaker 2: would imagine that that's going to change, you know, whether

764
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Speaker 2: Dane Jackson's back and resigns as a free agent, or

765
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Speaker 2: whether they add somebody else. You know they're going to

766
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: add at least two there to get the numbers up

767
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Speaker 2: for the off season.

768
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you right now, it's all do you.

769
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Speaker 2: Have your calculations. I do, And this isn't exact because

770
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Speaker 2: your value.

771
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Speaker 3: Has changed over the last few years. You could go

772
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Speaker 3: up from twenty eighth. You could go up to let's

773
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 3: see seven live math, not very far.

774
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 2: You could go to maybe giving up twenty twenty three,

775
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: and you can get up five spots.

776
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 3: You get up five spots, Okay, get up five spots.

777
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 2: Which I wouldn't hate.

778
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: That's not Yeah, that might be the It may be enough.

779
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: Fringe of the area may be.

780
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 3: Enough if if guys start to go late or whatever.

781
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: But but you know that, you know, if you go

782
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 3: back to the the draft order, then you got to

783
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: look at, okay, which teams are in that draft spot?

784
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 6: You know what?

785
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 2: What's the twenty three is Houston?

786
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 3: There you go. You have you look at Houston, Dallas

787
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: or Philly. Now, Dallas and Philly probably would talk to you.

788
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 3: And if you go to Philly, you'd have to you'd

789
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 3: have to sweeten the deal like throw in a six,

790
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, throwing a six or a seven, Yeah,

791
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: on top of the three, on top of the three.

792
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: But they may they may slide you back, you know,

793
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: next year seven, So that kind of thing. So that's

794
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: what you're talking about. You Dallas and Philly at twenty

795
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: two Philly or twenty four Dallas. You got a chance

796
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 3: to get to there if you want to package three

797
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: picks for that pick.

798
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: Break time for us. Hear more of your phone calls.

799
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Speaker 2: When we come back, Jim on to sell Butcher on

800
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Speaker 2: the East side. Stay where you are, We'll get to you,

801
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: and we return here on one Bill's Live Stay tuned.

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Speaker 8: Actually, at first I thought it was fake because the

803
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 8: Gofunmi was something from three years ago. People tell me

804
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 8: the numbers, I'm like, get out, that's not real. And

805
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 8: then being came to me, I was like, man, they

806
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Speaker 8: said it's three million. I'm like, yo, this is this

807
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 8: is insane. And then it just kept going. Next you know,

808
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Speaker 8: it was close to nine million. They called it a

809
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Speaker 8: Demor Hamlin effect.

810
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Speaker 2: I don't even know where to start. Everything escalated to

811
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Speaker 2: entire world scale.

812
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Speaker 3: If you woke up this morning, you went in half

813
00:42:59,200 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 3: into battles.

814
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 8: The generosity that the people outpourt. We feel a sense

815
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 8: of responsibility to make sure that we do the charity

816
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 8: the right way.

817
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 4: City of Good Neighbors, you know what town that is.

818
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: I ain't even gonna speak on it. That is just

819
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: an excerpt of the beyond Blue and Red inside DeMar

820
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: Hamlin's inspiring comeback and lasting impact. You can watch it

821
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Speaker 2: in its entirety on Buffalo bills dot com or on

822
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: The Bill's YouTube channel, so be sure to check that out.

823
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 2: It's just kind of an in depth look at his

824
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: journey back from the injury. He suffered in the Monday

825
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: Night Football game in the twenty twenty two season, and

826
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Speaker 2: what he's done since then with all the money that

827
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Speaker 2: was raised for his Chasing MS Foundation. Pretty cool stuff.

828
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Speaker 2: So check it out.

829
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Speaker 3: Very good a chance, Yeah, and it's a nice refreshing,

830
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: particularly since we all know how it came out in

831
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Speaker 3: the end, and it's fun to watch it. It's a

832
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 3: good watch.

833
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Speaker 2: In the meantime, we are going to get back to

834
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Speaker 2: the phones at eight oh three, five fifty one eighty eight,

835
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: five fifty two, five fifty. What roster needs should the

836
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: Bills focus on in free agency? To Jim on a sale,

837
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: what do you got for his Jim.

838
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 10: I'm a little confused on Brownie. I know you want

839
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 10: to go for the two wide receivers or three wide

840
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 10: receivers in the first upper rounds of the draft. I'm

841
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 10: a little confused because I was always under the impression

842
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 10: and that everybody said that the Chiefs defense won the

843
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 10: Super Bowl for him, and defense wins championships. And I

844
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 10: know that our main cause was we had so many

845
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 10: injuries on defense. Why we wouldn't go for the best

846
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 10: defensive backs that are the best defensive players that are available.

847
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 10: In the draft and the upper rounds and then the

848
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 10: lower rounds take a shot at a receiver since we

849
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 10: have a couple on the practice squad that has showed

850
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 10: some promise.

851
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, no problem, Jim. Question. As we said earlier, I

852
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: didn't say we should ignore defense. As a matter of fact,

853
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 2: they even said you still have to be a very

854
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: good defense. But to me, pouring major high assets like

855
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: first and second round picks or the majority of your

856
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: free agent capital in terms of dollars and cents on

857
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: defensive players, I don't know if that's the way to

858
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: go these days. Defense is important. I'm not saying it.

859
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it isn't. But at the same time,

860
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: to me, I think we're at a stage in this

861
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 2: league where it's kind of like the old adage in baseball,

862
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 2: good pitching beats good hitting. The quarterbacks are the pitchers.

863
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 2: Good pitching beats good hitting. To me, all you needed

864
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 2: to see was what we witnessed in the playoffs. You

865
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 2: had arguably the least effective Chiefs offense of the Andy

866
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: Reid Mahomes era, and yes, you want to argue that

867
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: their defense helped give the offense more opportunities. For Kansas City.

868
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 2: I'll listen to that. But the Chiefs, on their road

869
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 2: to their third Super Bowl of the Reid Mahomes era,

870
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: beat the number four scoring defense in football Buffalo, They

871
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: beat the number ten scoring defense in football Miami, they

872
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 2: beat the number one scoring defense in football Baltimore, and

873
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: they beat the number two scoring defense in football San Francisco.

874
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: And all four of those teams also ranked in the

875
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 2: top ten in sacks. So my argument here is defense

876
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: is not unimportant. It is important. But I don't know

877
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: if you put all your eggs in a pass rush

878
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 2: basket in a league where the quarterbacks are simply too

879
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: good to beat with an elite pass rush. The forty

880
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: nine ers, I just said it earlier. They had Eric

881
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: Armstead an All Pro defensive tackle, Nick Bosa an All

882
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: Pro pass rusher, and added Chase Young at the deadline,

883
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 2: who was the second pick in the draft, and it

884
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 2: still didn't mean a hill of beans against Patrick Mahomes.

885
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: And I mean, run down the list justin Madabike. You know,

886
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: the elite defensive lineman for the Baltimore Ravens who's gonna

887
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 2: get a sack of money here in free agency could

888
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: not make a difference in the Baltimore game. You know,

889
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: Buffalo's pass rush kind of waned as the season went on,

890
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: and they just weren't the same group up front and

891
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: were sorely absent in the playoff game. I mean, that

892
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: was probably the biggest disappointment for me. In the entire

893
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 2: divisional playoff. People are gonna look at Tyler Bass and

894
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 2: Josh Mission throws and players dropping footballs. To me, the

895
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: biggest disappointment was Buffalo's defensive line just flat out did

896
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 2: not show up in that divisional playoffs.

897
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 3: Yea, the Bills, I think could had the defensive roster

898
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 3: to play with anybody last year until they started losing

899
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 3: Matt Milano, Trey White, and others up front. I thought

900
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: that really negated their ability to hang in there defensively

901
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 3: like they should have would have could have. Now they

902
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 3: played very well. I mean, they were the number four

903
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: scoring defense in the in the league last year after

904
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 3: losing Trey White All Pro corner by the way, and

905
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: Matt Malone All Pro linebacker, and they still came in

906
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 3: the top five. But I think this defensive staff is

907
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 3: a little bit like the Spagnola guys in Kansas City.

908
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 3: They maximize We've said it since the beginning, particularly with

909
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 3: Sean McDermott calling the plays. They got the most out

910
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 3: of those guys last year, the guys that were left

911
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 3: standing by the way. So I'm I'm I'm kind of

912
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 3: with Brown on this. I'm I'm good with what they're

913
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 3: going to be able to do defensively with the guys

914
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 3: they've got standing, if they can get them on the

915
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 3: field and keep them on the field, even the guys

916
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 3: that even if Trey White's not a part of the

917
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: prop process, and even if Poyer and Hyde go their

918
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 3: separate ways, I still like the secondary with the athletes

919
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 3: they've got coming back, guys like Kyrie Elam, Christian Benford,

920
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: Tarren Johnson, Dane Jackson. They've got some guys that can

921
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 3: scoot back there and that they'll be able to hang

922
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 3: in there and and man defense, maybe play in some

923
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: areas better than they were able to this year with

924
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 3: you know, any Rasul Douglas was a big boost. So

925
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 3: I'm with I guess I'm I hear what you're saying.

926
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: If the Chiefs wanted when Spagnola were giving him all

927
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 3: this credit, I still think it's the league about It's

928
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 3: about Andy Reid, Pat Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. I think

929
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 3: that's what it's all.

930
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying don't fill your holes on defense.

931
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: They got to do that. You need you need to

932
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: be able to line up and play. Despite all the

933
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: injury shortcomings of Buffalo's defense, they were still number nine

934
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: in the league, still a top ten defense.

935
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 3: I'm not and I'm not saying it's because it's Travis Kelsey,

936
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 3: Pat Mahomes and Andy Reids. So you need to play

937
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: defense again. I'm saying you need to keep up with them.

938
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 2: You got to.

939
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: You've got to build your team. You've got to build

940
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 3: your team as an almost mirror image of those guys.

941
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: The quarterbacks are close close enough.

942
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: Tight end might be on the come too.

943
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 3: Tight end. Tight end, we've closed that gap for sure,

944
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 3: as well. A wide receiver, we might have it better.

945
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: An offensive line, I think we are better. So we've

946
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 3: got some stuff going for us. H Cook is really

947
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 3: good with Pacheco. I mean, it's that's where we're at.

948
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 3: You're not going to find a Chris Jones in free

949
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 3: agency for this club or in the draft. Can't afford it,

950
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 3: can't afford it.

951
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 2: Break time for us here. We're up against it, so

952
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: we'll try to get some more calls after we catch

953
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: up with former NFL GM and NFL writer for the Athletic,

954
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: Randy Mueller. He's going to join us for hour number

955
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: two here on One Bill's Live presented by Colia Health.

956
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

957
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Calllida Health.

958
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: All right, welcome to our number two here on a Wednesday.

959
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you on One Bills Live

960
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: and please to be joined now by an NFL writer

961
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: for the Athletic who also happens to be a former

962
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: NFL GM by the name of Randy Mueller, is kind

963
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 2: of enough to join us here in the off season

964
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: on randy hard work on the Athletic. He's putting together

965
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 2: a bunch of free agent lists at his top one

966
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: fifty up there recently, and that's kind of where I

967
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 2: want to start, Randy, because we experienced something last offseason.

968
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: Jordan Poyer was a free agent at the time, and

969
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: people thought he was going to get gigantic money. And

970
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: then the problem was there were eighteen starting safeties in

971
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 2: the free agent market last year and nobody who wasn't

972
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 2: named Jesse Bates got their money. Looking at the free

973
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: agent safety list this year, it's every bit as long,

974
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 2: if not longer. Are we in for another depressed safety market?

975
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: And how might that help a team like the Bills

976
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: who could have two holes at safety before their cap

977
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 2: compliance measures are done.

978
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think you're right.

979
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 11: I think safety really has kind of become an afterthought,

980
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 11: to be honest with you, and supplying demand does dictate it.

981
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 11: I think it's an area where a lot of teams

982
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 11: just don't want to spend giant dollars. I think they're

983
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 11: more anxious to put it on the perimeter, whether it's

984
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 11: a receiver or a corner or some way to allocate

985
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 11: their cap differently. And I frankly I think safeties have

986
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 11: taken it in the shorts because of it. I'll say this,

987
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 11: A safety for me is something that a veteran, a communicator,

988
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 11: a guy that kind of is the glue back there

989
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 11: is always valuable.

990
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 9: How much value you can.

991
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 11: Put on it, I don't know, but you mentioned Jordan Port,

992
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 11: who is a really good player. I just don't know

993
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 11: athletically he'll ever be anointed as being the guy like

994
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 11: these young guys are that that are probably going to

995
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 11: get paid this year.

996
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 3: How when you're when the when the free agency finally

997
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 3: hits and the phone start ringing and you start talking

998
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 3: to guys in earnest and trying to sign them, and

999
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 3: and you're ready to sign deals you've discussed. That's all

1000
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 3: fun games and we all love seeing what's been going

1001
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 3: on over the phone when out of sight, out of

1002
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 3: mind kind of thing. How does all of that change

1003
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 3: once June first hits and there's still some guys out

1004
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 3: there who can help teams. How what as a GM,

1005
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 3: how do those conversations go?

1006
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 11: I think, Steve, the conversations are ongoing. I think they

1007
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 11: start and maybe some have started already, but they may

1008
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 11: not culminate till after June one. I couldn't agree more.

1009
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 11: I think there are a lot of teams who maybe

1010
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 11: are aggressive trying to win the press conferences early in

1011
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 11: the free agent period. But I think your depth can

1012
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 11: be determined later in the process, and that comes after

1013
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 11: the draft, after you have some boxes that weren't checked

1014
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 11: in the draft, that you can finally get a chance

1015
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 11: to really gain value and not have to break the

1016
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 11: bank on certain veteran players, especially come come June. Post

1017
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 11: June one, per se, so I don't know that they

1018
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 11: wait and tap and happen. Then I think you've got

1019
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 11: to show love. You've got to be on the same

1020
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 11: page with agents with players, I think throughout the whole

1021
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 11: spring to make it happen and really fitted in that

1022
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 11: tight window of between let's say June tenth and and

1023
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 11: August first, when it counts.

1024
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 2: Buffalo's defensive line is for a lot of turnover. Eight

1025
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 2: of their twelve guys that were on the fifty three

1026
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: man roster have contracts that are expiring. I know three

1027
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: of them made your top one fifty list, namely Leonard Floyd,

1028
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 2: Daikwon Jones, aj Epanessa. You mind giving us a quick

1029
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 2: thumbnail on what you think the market might bear for

1030
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 2: those three guys, Floyd, Jones and aj.

1031
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 9: Well.

1032
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 11: I think the market as we see here today may

1033
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 11: change before the start of the league year, only because

1034
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 11: I think the edge rushers, let's just take them for example.

1035
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 11: And you mentioned Leonard Floyd, who I think really will

1036
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 11: be desired by a lot of teams. But there's some

1037
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 11: other guys whom I may have listed ahead of him.

1038
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 11: Other teams may have listed slightly ahead of him as

1039
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 11: being slightly more desirable, maybe because they're younger, but those

1040
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 11: guys are going to get tagged, I would assume, so

1041
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 11: that's going to probably make Leonard Floyd's value.

1042
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 9: On the street even go up higher.

1043
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 11: I think anytime you can focus in free agency or

1044
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 11: have available to you seven player, those guys are gonna

1045
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 11: the price tag on them is going to be driven

1046
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 11: a lot higher, just based on the nature of the

1047
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 11: position they play and how hard it is to get him.

1048
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 11: I think it is a good free agent pool for

1049
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 11: Red Rushers. I think Floyd maybe if guys don't get tagged,

1050
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 11: people will spend money elsewhere and the Bills will have

1051
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 11: a better chance to bring him on. I think a

1052
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 11: guy like Daikwan Jones is going to be in high

1053
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 11: demand by a lot of people, and Steve will understand this.

1054
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 11: If you can find a player who can play three

1055
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 11: technique and maybe even some five technique and some nose,

1056
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 11: some versatility inside to kind of be like an innings eater,

1057
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 11: not necessarily productive on paper, but really productive for the

1058
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 11: people around him. I think people find that valuable in

1059
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 11: the NFL, and I know other gms will, so I

1060
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 11: think he'll be a hot commodity.

1061
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 3: I've spoken to other executives at different times, and they

1062
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 3: kind of think, you know, when you talk about the

1063
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 3: league and the big picture of it, and there's thirty

1064
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 3: two teams and you have like say, if everybody ran

1065
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 3: a four to three, you'd have like one hundred and

1066
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 3: forty some odd defensive line just starters, and then behind

1067
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 3: them he got another eighth. So it's like a couple

1068
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 3: one hundred guys play in that spot. What percentage of

1069
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 3: those spots are filled by high court? I mean, there's

1070
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 3: not that many good players for the league. In fact,

1071
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 3: I had one executive said, we can't expand the NFL

1072
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 3: anymore because we don't have any big bodies that can

1073
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 3: really play. There's not enough good players that are genetically

1074
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 3: built to play defensive tackle. What are your thoughts on

1075
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 3: how big a percentage maybe the league is missing up

1076
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 3: at that spot.

1077
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 11: Well, I think it's alsopplying to man and it's dictated

1078
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 11: by there are not a lot of guys with that

1079
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 11: size walking around the face of the earth, trustmy. And

1080
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 11: it can be said for offensive linemen as well, especially tackles.

1081
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 11: Ask these people building these spring league teams that we

1082
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 11: see play in the XFL and find out from them

1083
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 11: that they have no tackles, they have no defensive linemen.

1084
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 11: It is hard to find guys at this nature, but

1085
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 11: I think that's been the success bar. Whether you're in

1086
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 11: high school, whether you're a college team, or whether you're

1087
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 11: an NFL t It's about the big guys, and if

1088
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 11: you can find a way to acquire a few big

1089
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 11: guys and keep them, you stand a greater chance to

1090
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 11: win in this league, especially in the NFL. They're just

1091
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 11: hard to come fine. That's why if you find a

1092
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 11: guy like that that can play multiple positions, they seldom

1093
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 11: ever get to the market. And you see these guys

1094
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 11: getting drafted in the top ten every year. There's just

1095
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 11: maybe one or two a year that come out that

1096
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 11: are at the quality that we all want in the NFL.

1097
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 2: All right, So let's take that and compare two different

1098
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 2: positions here. So you've got defensive tackle defensive end. I

1099
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: think at least at the top, it's a pretty good

1100
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: year for edge rushers in the draft. It's also very

1101
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 2: deep at wide receiver.

1102
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 5: Now.

1103
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 2: There seems to be a bounty of wide receivers every year.

1104
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 2: They're easier to find, maybe than premiere edge rushers. But

1105
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 2: with two good classes at those two positions and knowing

1106
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: how high priced those positions are in the free agent market,

1107
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: how does that impact a GM when trying to assess

1108
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: you know, cost response, it's a fiscal responsibility with their

1109
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: cap when you know you have a deep class at

1110
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 2: that position as well.

1111
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 11: Oh, it has a direct correlation to what you decide

1112
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 11: to do and how you decide to fill those needs

1113
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 11: if you have one. Without a doubt, every GM already

1114
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 11: knows where the depth of the NFL college draft is

1115
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 11: right now as we sit in you know, late February.

1116
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 11: I think they know that they've met with their people,

1117
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 11: they have an idea. They have to forecast that to

1118
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 11: know where to pick their spots in free agency, because

1119
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 11: like you said, they may have to look for some

1120
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 11: value or overpay at a position in free agency that

1121
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 11: they know doesn't exist in any depth wise come college drafts.

1122
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 11: So it's a juggling act for gms.

1123
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 9: I've been there.

1124
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 11: You may have and you guys might shake your head

1125
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 11: at this. You may have fifty deals you know, rolling

1126
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 11: around in your head at one time.

1127
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 9: It's crazy.

1128
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 11: And whether that's draft communication, whether that's free agent communication.

1129
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 11: And oh, by the way, like you said, we got

1130
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 11: about fifteen of our own guys that we're dealing with two.

1131
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 11: So there is a lot of deals hanging around upstairs

1132
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 11: that I think the multitasking gms have a better chance

1133
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 11: to fulfill and succeed at because of that. It's it's

1134
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 11: a lot, and I love that part of it. I

1135
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 11: always did. I always thought that was the thing that

1136
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 11: separated us is we could find a way to multitask

1137
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 11: and make deals with people on value per se. I

1138
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 11: think you have two things that enter in. You have

1139
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 11: your evaluations and then you have your valuations, and the

1140
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 11: good gms can bring both of those into play, and

1141
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 11: they're totally different. They're different processes that you get to

1142
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 11: the end result in. But the good gms find a

1143
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 11: way to balance those out.

1144
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 3: How do you balance whether? And we've got a GM

1145
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 3: here in Buffalo and Brandon Bean who rarely stays put

1146
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 3: in the first round. He always goes up a couple,

1147
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 3: down a couple. He moves around just a little bit

1148
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 3: for whatever reason. How cautious are you as a GM

1149
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 3: when a guy jumps on the table and says, if

1150
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 3: we go up a half a dozen spots, this guy's

1151
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 3: a generational talent or whatever, and you feel like maybe

1152
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 3: it's this guy. May like the guy, but there's never

1153
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 3: a sure thing in these drafts. I mean, how do

1154
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 3: you balance a need and a want any valuation with

1155
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 3: making a pick and spending more than just that pick

1156
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 3: to get it.

1157
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's a good point.

1158
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 11: And I think as as the decision maker in these

1159
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 11: buildings like Brandon, you really have to know the people

1160
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 11: that you've surrounded yourself with. You have to know the

1161
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 11: valuators as much as being able to evaluate on your own.

1162
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 11: I think it's a struggle sometimes in a room of

1163
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 11: people with opinions to not follow the loudest voice, and

1164
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 11: sometimes that's an art in listening as well. You have

1165
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 11: to find a way to temper passion and understand the

1166
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 11: agendas that are at stake and really evaluate the people

1167
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 11: on your own staff.

1168
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 9: So it is hard.

1169
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 11: I think there are deal makers that are really good,

1170
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 11: like you said, Steve, moving around, I think they know

1171
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 11: the depth, know the options, and really when you make

1172
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 11: deals like the ones you've mentioned, you have to have

1173
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 11: a feel for options. You can't make deals when you

1174
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 11: don't have options, and so moving down tow or three

1175
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 11: spots might give you still the same amount of options

1176
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 11: you had, where if you'd just stuck where you were

1177
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 11: or moving up might be an indicator of the supply

1178
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 11: just doesn't you know, relate to the demand. We've got

1179
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 11: to move up to get this guy because there's no fallback.

1180
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 11: So it's all strategic. It's all been planned and talked

1181
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 11: about early on. I love the process of doing that.

1182
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 11: In fact, it makes for draft days almost like studying

1183
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 11: for the logsam Right. You do all your studying and

1184
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 11: then on test day there's really no discussion. Because the

1185
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 11: best drafts I've ever been involved in, you've been through

1186
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 11: every scenario.

1187
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 2: With the league having about half the teams still not

1188
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 2: in cap compliance, we got half the league that's going

1189
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 2: to have to be pretty pretty disciplined in their spending

1190
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 2: on the free agent market. Now, of course, you can

1191
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 2: look at that the other way and say there's sixteen

1192
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 2: teams that could spend, you know, lavishly if they want

1193
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 2: to early on in the market. My question to you, Randy,

1194
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 2: is knowing you're going to have about half the league

1195
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 2: being a lot more discerning than maybe they have been

1196
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 2: in previous years because of those cap constraints, do you

1197
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 2: feel that gives a team that's a quote unquote contender

1198
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: and advantage knowing that if you're trying to appeal to

1199
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 2: a free agent you want and the money's all but

1200
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: dried up and they're getting already less than the market

1201
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 2: value they thought they would. Could a team like Buffalo

1202
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 2: have an edge in light of their contending status over

1203
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 2: maybe some other team that's offering similar money.

1204
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 11: Well, I think that's definitely possible. I think it's all

1205
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 11: about timing right and making these deals. All comes down

1206
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 11: to the other options that a player might have as well.

1207
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 2: I think what.

1208
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 11: Fans and listeners sometimes misconstrued is that they think having

1209
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 11: cap space and bending equates to success, and that's not

1210
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 11: necessarily the case. I've seen a lot of teams win

1211
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 11: these offseason press conferences only to win six games the

1212
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 11: next year in the regular season. So I think just

1213
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 11: because a team has space, it doesn't mean they're on

1214
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 11: the right track. It means they have to make good decisions,

1215
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 11: and sometimes these teams with space I have less faith

1216
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 11: that they'll make the right decisions going forward than a

1217
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 11: team like Buffalo, who I think is led by processes

1218
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 11: and by smart people and understanding of the system. I

1219
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 11: think they have a better chance. So you're right, I

1220
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 11: think again, I think being a GM and being a

1221
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 11: decision maker at team building level, and that's what we're

1222
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 11: talking about.

1223
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 9: It's about people and it's about relationships.

1224
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 11: And Brandon seems like the kind of guy to me

1225
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 11: that has a lot of relationships that people respect him,

1226
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 11: and I think that helps you as much as anything

1227
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 11: in making deals. And maybe you make deals at the

1228
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,439
Speaker 11: right time, but you have trust with the other side

1229
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 11: of the table. I don't think it can ever be

1230
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 11: one of those things where agents and and the decision

1231
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 11: makers within a building don't trust each other, or you're

1232
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 11: going to make a bad deal at some point.

1233
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 9: So I think the Bills are in good hands.

1234
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 11: I wouldn't want to be fifty million over the cap,

1235
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 11: but they'll find ways to get under that.

1236
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 3: That's another question too. Why is it so difficult because

1237
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 3: we see every team, almost every team rides that roller coaster.

1238
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 3: There'll be a handful of years where they're over the

1239
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 3: cap every year, and then there'll be a time when

1240
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 3: you know they have fifty million at this point of

1241
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 3: the season, they got fifty million under the cap. Why

1242
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 3: is it such a hard ballance to strike to and

1243
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 3: what would be the optimal place, you know, finish every

1244
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 3: season five or ten million under the cap and restructure

1245
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 3: a couple of eyes to get you some room and

1246
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 3: then just you know, spend the money. I mean, what's

1247
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 3: the balance and why is it so difficult for teams

1248
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 3: to strike where you get to that point where you're

1249
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 3: always cap complying. You don't have to worry about it,

1250
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 3: you don't have to redo everybody's contract, push money down

1251
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 3: down the road. I mean, why is that so difficult

1252
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 3: to do?

1253
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 11: I think evaluating is hard, Steve, and I think bringing

1254
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 11: the right talent in is really what determines if you've

1255
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 11: made the right deals or not. I don't think you

1256
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 11: can ever get away from the fact that, hey, we

1257
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 11: can evaluate better than these other teams, and that's what

1258
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 11: teams do hang their hat on. I think the magic

1259
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 11: carpet that you're looking for is to have a really

1260
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 11: talented team, but have a sustainable cap structure and a

1261
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 11: sustainable cap allocation. That's the key, and that's why we

1262
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 11: talk about these positional priorities where you have to spend

1263
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 11: money on the right positions because you know these guys

1264
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 11: are going to be one hard to replace and two

1265
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 11: really hard to find anywhere, So you can't let those

1266
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 11: guys be a revolving door. You've got to identify core players.

1267
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 11: You've got to always be working with those core players

1268
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 11: to kind of free up enough money where you can

1269
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 11: build around it. And of course it helps to have

1270
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 11: Josh Allen there's your quarterback, to make up for any

1271
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 11: gray area that we might have.

1272
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 2: Taking that a step further, Randy, you already mentioned Jordan Poyer.

1273
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 2: He's got an eight million dollar cap figure. He's a

1274
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 2: thirty two year old safety, and I think we can

1275
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 2: all agree he's not the player he was in his

1276
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 2: prime and may have to take less of a role

1277
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 2: in this defense if he wants to stick around. That

1278
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 2: certainly isn't fitting of an eight million dollar cap figure.

1279
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: And you also have Tredevius White, another guy who for

1280
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 2: a while was a cornerstone player for this team but

1281
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,959
Speaker 2: now has had two major leg injuries, has missed thirty

1282
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 2: games over the last three seasons. His sixteen million dollar

1283
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 2: cap figure does not compute as good business. How is

1284
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 2: a GM do you handle those very delicate situations with

1285
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 2: players who have been cornerstone pieces for your franchise.

1286
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 11: It's really hard because and I've said this for years.

1287
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 11: The hardest job of a GM is knowing when the

1288
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 11: cut the cord with somebody that's given you their whole professional,

1289
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 11: really livelihood for the last six or eight years, or

1290
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 11: even sometimes a decade. That is a really hard job.

1291
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 11: And it's something that since the invention of the cap,

1292
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 11: you really can't for prior really production, you have to

1293
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 11: look ahead. It's the unfair part of the business. Steve

1294
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 11: will appreciate this. You can't pay the Steve Largess of

1295
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 11: the world a million dollars anymore because he was good

1296
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 11: five years ago. That just doesn't happen anymore unto these

1297
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 11: cap restrictions.

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01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 9: So it makes it hard.

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Speaker 11: But I'll say this in the Bills case. When the

1300
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 11: Bills lost out this year, my first thought was, I'm

1301
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 11: not sure this team's good enough, and they're gonna probably

1302
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 11: have to rework some stuff on defense. So I'm sure

1303
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 11: that's where the focus of Brandon Bean went and he's

1304
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 11: got to rework some stuff, especially in the secondary.

1305
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 8: Now.

1306
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 11: I know they were devastated with injuries, you have to

1307
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 11: factor that in, but they're gonna have to make some

1308
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 11: hard calls. They're gonna have to find a way to

1309
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 11: upgrade from where they were a year ago, and that's

1310
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 11: never easy when you start the process of being as

1311
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 11: much over the cap as they are just to get compliant.

1312
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Speaker 3: It's one of those crazy situations as well, when you

1313
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 3: get a guy like Josh Allen as your quarterback and

1314
01:08:55,840 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 3: he's been a wrecking ball at quarterback. Contemporaries Lamar Jackson

1315
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow have played well, but they've been unavailable at

1316
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 3: times because of injury. Not so with Josh Allen. But

1317
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 3: when you talk about a backup quarterback, what's your what

1318
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 3: was your philosophy? And get do you get a guy?

1319
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 3: And here's the thing. If you're gonna get a guy

1320
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 3: that kind of mimics the starting quarterback, what happens when

1321
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 3: you've got a unicorner? There ain't nobody that does that.

1322
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 3: How do you get somebody that you still feel like

1323
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 3: gives you a chance to win with a good roster

1324
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 3: if your top guy goes down, when you've got a

1325
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 3: top guy that's way ahead of everybody else.

1326
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think different philosophies for different teams, for sure.

1327
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 11: I mean, I've been in the league thirty five years.

1328
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 11: I would say Josh Allen is one of maybe a

1329
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 11: handful guys that one can operate like he does, and

1330
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 11: two that I can't wait for Sundays to watch, so

1331
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 11: I can already appreciate what he brings to the table.

1332
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,879
Speaker 11: But having said that, I would have a backup quarterback

1333
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 11: in play somehow, some way. You'll never find a guy

1334
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 11: that has his skill set, but somebody that can process

1335
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 11: information enough to where our passing game doesn't take a

1336
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 11: step back. That I think should be the criteria. And

1337
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 11: maybe they've done that.

1338
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 9: I don't know.

1339
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 11: I think each each year we see a different crop

1340
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 11: of backups kind of mix it up and move from

1341
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 11: team to team. Maybe that's the best way to accomplish it.

1342
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 11: But the criteria for me would start with you have

1343
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 11: to have a functional guy. We said for years, and

1344
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 11: I think you guys will appreciate this, for years that

1345
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 11: the Colts were This is when Peyton Manning was the

1346
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 11: quarterback of the Colts. We said, the Colts are an

1347
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 11: average team without Peyton Manning and guess what, he finally

1348
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 11: got hurt and we were wrong. They were way worse

1349
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 11: than average. They went way down and won two games

1350
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 11: the next year. So a backup quarterback is important and

1351
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 11: some people value it more than others. I would surely

1352
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 11: find a way to set some money aside or set

1353
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 11: some type of value aside where we if we lose

1354
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 11: Josh Allen for a couple of weeks, our season is

1355
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:00,799
Speaker 11: not completletely derailed.

1356
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 2: Just my feelings, Randy, Thanks for all the insight. We

1357
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Be happy to catch up with you later

1358
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,879
Speaker 2: on down the line here in the offseason.

1359
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 3: Thank you, Randy.

1360
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 9: Thanks guys a lot of fun.

1361
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 2: All right. That's former NFL GM Randy Mueller, who is

1362
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 2: NFL writer for the Athletic as his top one point

1363
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 2: fifty in terms of free agent rankings. Got some bills

1364
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 2: on there, Leonard, Floyd, Deakwon Jones, AJFNS. I saw Taylor

1365
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 2: Rap on that list, so be sure to check it out.

1366
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 2: It's got a little thumbnail sketch on each of the

1367
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 2: players in free agency as well, if you want to

1368
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 2: get a feel for some of the names out there.

1369
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 2: Wanted to ask him about kJ Osborne, the wide receiver

1370
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 2: in Minnesota who I don't think would cost an arm

1371
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 2: and a leg and is still, you know, quote unquote

1372
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 2: in his prime. I think at age twenty six, might

1373
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 2: turn twenty seven next season might be a guy worth

1374
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 2: putting the scope on, you know, and maybe augment Buffalo's

1375
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 2: receiving cores before you get to the draft. And that's

1376
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 2: what we're asking you. What needs should the Bills address

1377
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:07,560
Speaker 2: with their free agent hunting around on the market? What

1378
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 2: should they focus on position wise? In free agency? Eight

1379
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 2: O three five fifty is the number to get on board.

1380
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 2: Let's get to Butcher in East Buffalo has been waiting patiently.

1381
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 2: Here what you got for us? Butcher?

1382
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 4: First of all, I gotta say something to you, Brownie.

1383
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 4: I need to know if they make in tours on

1384
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 4: East Buffalo. I never heard of that. I'm from the East,

1385
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 4: I know the East side of Buffalo.

1386
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I would say that it's been communicated to

1387
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 2: us that that is preferred now now. Now, for some

1388
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 2: old school guys like yourself, it.

1389
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 4: Might not be exactly exactly, Brownie, Browdie, you forget me?

1390
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 4: What about you?

1391
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to Hey, look, I'm just trying to

1392
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 2: keep it current, you know what I mean, trying to

1393
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 2: keep it current.

1394
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 4: No reason, why, reason why I brought that up is Steve,

1395
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,759
Speaker 4: I love you. Both of y'all boys are old school

1396
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:05,799
Speaker 4: like me. I told about men who I love dearly

1397
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 4: who answer the phones. He's a great guy. I'm glad

1398
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 4: wgr hired him. I told him, I said, listen, people

1399
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 4: be talking about East Buffalo. I don't know about East Buffalo.

1400
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 4: I need to get a tour, so I canna bring

1401
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 4: my kids and my wife to find out where East

1402
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 4: Buffalo is. I would to see what they got over there.

1403
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 4: I know that I know what that is.

1404
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 1: You're in it, but I love you.

1405
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 4: Man me get right to the point. Let's get right

1406
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 4: to it, right right to it. And I respect you, guys,

1407
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 4: So thanks so much for taking my car. Number one

1408
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 4: is uh. I want to say this. This is very

1409
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 4: important what I'm about to say, and it's deep what

1410
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 4: I'm about to say. I always always use my guy,

1411
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 4: Steve Tasker a lot. Every You already know that a lot.

1412
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 4: Me and Steve might box. But at the same time,

1413
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 4: I love him and I respect them. I respect his

1414
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 4: hard work to where he got to where he is

1415
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 4: even to be right now next to you, Brownie, and

1416
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna use Steve right now. It's a lot of

1417
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 4: players like Steve nowadays, though nowadays not when Steve came up,

1418
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:22,440
Speaker 4: the attitude that Steve had when he started playing football

1419
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 4: to say I could compete with anybody, just give me

1420
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 4: the opportunity. When Steve came to Houston. From Houston to Buffalo,

1421
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 4: Buffalo didn't know nothing about Steve Caasker. Marv Levy did though,

1422
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 4: understand me. And when he came here, they talking about

1423
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 4: special teams. We didn't. In Buffalo, we was ignorant about

1424
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 4: special teams. Steve Tasker made us aware how special special

1425
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 4: teams was. That's why today he's supposed to be in

1426
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame because of special team games. Now,

1427
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 4: the reason why I brought that up, I had to

1428
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:07,560
Speaker 4: use that as my starting point. I don't need a

1429
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 4: wide receiver in the first round. I don't need a

1430
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 4: wide receiver in the second round. I wouldn't mind having

1431
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:17,560
Speaker 4: one in the draft. But what I do need is

1432
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 4: a coach, teachers, people who's in charge to allow people

1433
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:28,600
Speaker 4: who are unfortunate that's ready to play, to ready to

1434
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 4: show that they ready to play, like Justin Shorter, like

1435
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 4: to real shavers. These wide receivers, all they need is opportunities.

1436
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:43,520
Speaker 4: They don't need to be household names like Emmanuel Sanders

1437
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 4: and all these other guys. I was just speaking about

1438
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 4: while I was waiting on hold. We don't need them.

1439
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 4: Keep the money in the bank, use what you have.

1440
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,480
Speaker 4: Go ahead and make your draft. Get the real positions,

1441
01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 4: like offensive line, like a center, like a defensive line,

1442
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 4: got de tackled. And then add on to the cats

1443
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 4: that want to play, that want to make household names

1444
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 4: for their families, that want to bring money to their

1445
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 4: families or their community. These players nowadays, And I'm saying this,

1446
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 4: and I'm saying reason I use you, Chris and you

1447
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 4: Steve at our Age. We from the old school, these

1448
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 4: new school you want cats are ready to play right now.

1449
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 4: All they need And I always repeat that is an opportunity,

1450
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 4: And I mean that's fairly so I'm gonna let you

1451
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 4: go on this. And I think you're taking my call.

1452
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say this is and I'm gonna hang up.

1453
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 4: Is that in the draft coming up? Like I told

1454
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 4: you before, I want Brandon Bean to back up pick

1455
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 4: up picks. If you can get that center for Oregon,

1456
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 4: get them right away, if you can. If you get

1457
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 4: him in the end of the draft or in the

1458
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 4: first pick in the second round, get him. But then

1459
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 4: you get another receiver. We already got two receivers. We

1460
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 4: got Career said, we got receivers already. I don't want

1461
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 4: to hear more about Jinny's old dudes. Light light light

1462
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 4: light light, like Beckham and all these other people. Keep

1463
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 4: your money in your bank. I love you guys, thanks

1464
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 4: so much. Thanks.

1465
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, there's a lot in there. Yeah, I'm I'm

1466
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 3: kind of with Brownie on this one. I know you're right.

1467
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 3: I hope that they can somehow get in free agency

1468
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 3: to the point where they can take the best player available.

1469
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 3: So if it's a center, they can take him and

1470
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 3: we'll all feel good about it. Although I'm with Brownie

1471
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 3: right now at this current point in history, I'm I'm

1472
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:35,839
Speaker 3: on the wide receiver train and I am the conductor,

1473
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 3: so even more so than Brownie.

1474
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,759
Speaker 2: Is, I'll take tickets, I'll shine, pull in the engine

1475
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 2: everybody got to do.

1476
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 3: And I'll say it again, here has a cabus. Here's

1477
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 3: how I'm feeling today, and it hasn't changed. If they

1478
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 3: don't take a guy at twenty eight, they need to

1479
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 3: take one at sixty and at ninety. If they take

1480
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 3: one at twenty eight, they can wait and get another

1481
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 3: guy in the third, fourth, fifth, at whatever. Yeah, but

1482
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 3: they if they don't get a guy at twenty eight

1483
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 3: playing wide receiver, that is the guy that Brownie Knight,

1484
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 3: whose name we know, and there's only about a handful

1485
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 3: that are making that line. If they don't get one

1486
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 3: of those guys, they got to get somebody at pick

1487
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 3: sixty and ninety nine because up that high in the draft,

1488
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 3: they'll still be able to get some guys with some

1489
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 3: physical traits that will translate into the NFL.

1490
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 2: And I'll be the first to tell you, butch I

1491
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 2: got as much respect for overachievers as anybody, guys that

1492
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 2: just need an opportunity. But at this level, this is

1493
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 2: a matchup league, and you need people with elite physical

1494
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 2: traits along with that self internal motivation to excel at

1495
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 2: this level, and those guys are usually found at the

1496
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 2: top of the draft. Look, you want to give Tyrrel

1497
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 2: Shavers an opportunity, justin Shorter an opportunity. They had a

1498
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,759
Speaker 2: four month opportunity from May to the end of August

1499
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 2: to prove that they deserved a spot on this roster.

1500
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 2: There were people that were better. That's just where it goes.

1501
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 2: It's not like they lack time on the field and

1502
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 2: are in front of coaches, And like I said, it's

1503
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 2: a matchup league. You need guys who can win matchups.

1504
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 2: And those are the guys with the elite physical traits.

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01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they and they don't fall too far from

1506
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 3: the top of the draft. And it's a it's a

1507
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 3: graduating scale. Now, certainly there's gonna be guys with elite

1508
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 3: with some traits like you know, Steph Diggs a fifth

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01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 3: round pick, Gabe Davis fourth round pick.

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01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 6: Uh.

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01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 3: So you can kind of get an idea that there

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01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 3: are some great players in the middle of the draft

1513
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 3: and on Day two, but you got to then it

1514
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 3: becomes the right guy, not just a guy, but the

1515
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 3: right guy because a lot of those guys are just people.

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01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 3: So you can get lucky, and I don't eem lucky.

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01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 3: But if you can find one of those guys that

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01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 3: can excel at the NFL level and be an elite

1519
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 3: player in the fourth, fifth, sixth round, seventh round, they're

1520
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 3: fewer and further between. But man, oh man, having the

1521
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 3: guy available at the time you pick and recognize him

1522
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 3: as such, that's a lifelong quest that sometimes never never

1523
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:11,480
Speaker 3: gets filled fulfilled.

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Speaker 2: Break time for us more of your phone calls. When

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01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 2: we come back we'll lead off with Judy when we

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Speaker 2: return here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and right

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01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 2: back to the phones we go, where we're asking what

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01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 2: roster needs should be the Bill's focus in free agency,

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01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 2: And as promised, we lead this segment off with Judy

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01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 2: in Buffalo. What do you got for us? Judy?

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01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 12: You know, I'm so sick of this drivel about how

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01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 12: we have to beef up our defense. To me, the

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01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 12: name of the game now is offense. I have said before,

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01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 12: if you can score thirty to thirty five points per game,

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01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 12: you will get to the super Bowl. If the Bills

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01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 12: had done that last year, they would have been in

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01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 12: the Super Bowl. I don't care if they use their

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01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 12: I want them to use their first three picks on

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01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 12: receivers and hopefully out of them we get somebody who's

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01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 12: going to make an impack. You look at the Los

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01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 12: Angeles Rams, their third round draft choice. They picked up

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01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 12: a receiver who changed the whole impact of the team around.

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01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 12: You know, when it's all said and done at the

1546
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 12: end of the year, there'll be people available. They can

1547
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 12: fill these defensive slots.

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01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 7: Who thought that Leonard Floyd.

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01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 12: Would make a difference. We picked them up. I don't

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01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 12: know when or where, but.

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01:21:50,520 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 3: You know, Judy.

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01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 6: All right.

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01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 2: I think Judy made her point, so I'll let her go.

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01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 3: I hope, yeah, I hope you're okay.

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01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 2: She got she got so fired up there she couldn't

1556
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 2: even talk to she hung out. I love the passion, Judy. Uh,

1557
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 2: and glad you're on the receiver train. I don't know

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01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 2: if I don't know if I'm going one, two, three?

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01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 2: Uh wow, make her the engineer of the receiver train

1560
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 2: with that.

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01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 3: She's yes, she's she's shoveling coal on that puppy right there. Yeah.

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01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 3: I I see what you you're getting at. And it

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01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 3: would be awesome if and those first three picks and

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01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 3: the bills take a guy, like you said, take three

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01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 3: receivers top three, one, two, and three, and you get

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01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 3: a guy who is an outpha. Even if it's the

1567
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 3: third guy, that is an enormous statement about where you're headed.

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01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 3: And if he is one of the if he's a

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01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 3: Puka Nakua type receiver who is a fifth round pick,

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01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 3: who was a fifth round. Yeah, and so. But if

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01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 3: he's a guy that comes out and he's all of

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01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 3: a sudden, you got Julio Jones over there or you

1573
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 3: know aj Brown over there. Yeah, they're difference makers. And

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01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 3: you give your like I said, you give yourself a

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01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 3: better chance when you got more guys, I said, cast

1576
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 3: a wide net and free agency, go out and find

1577
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 3: all these guys. See if you can find a guy

1578
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 3: that's been struggling because of the wrong atmosphere, the wrong

1579
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 3: coaching staff, wrong offense, wrong opportunity, poorly timed injuries, and

1580
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 3: find and and plug him in and then get the

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01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:38,560
Speaker 3: best guy available. But uh, I think this is a

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01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 3: receiver class in this draft that this Bill's staff, whether

1583
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 3: they take one first or not, all the way through

1584
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 3: this draft, there's gonna you'll be able to take a

1585
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 3: receiver in every single draft if you want, every single

1586
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 3: round of this draft, all ten picks, if you want to,

1587
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 3: you should know the best receiver available at every one

1588
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 3: of those picks. When when your pick comes up, you

1589
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 3: should know that guy. And if he's there, then if

1590
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 3: he's got a chance of being one of those guys,

1591
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 3: get him.

1592
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:09,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen Brandon Bean's approach though, Like here's an example,

1593
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,560
Speaker 2: wide receiver is going to be a perceived position of

1594
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 2: need because I think most of us do not expect

1595
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 2: Gabe Davis to be back because of the money he'll

1596
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 2: be able to command on the market. It's going to

1597
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 2: be too rich for Buffalo's blood. They move on, they

1598
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 2: get cheaper labor in the draft. But I do think

1599
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:29,679
Speaker 2: they try to acquire a value player in free agency

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01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:35,799
Speaker 2: at receiver that they feel if, for whatever reason, whatever

1601
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 2: receiver they draft is not ready to assume a prominent

1602
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 2: role in their receiving corps, they have a veteran player

1603
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 2: in tow on the roster who can fill that role

1604
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 2: until the draft choice who might come in very badly

1605
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 2: hooed is ready maybe six weeks into the season or

1606
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 2: eight weeks into the season. Those are the kinds of

1607
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 2: players that Brandon Bean to cover all the bases. Hey, yeah,

1608
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 2: we got our high profile wide receiver in the draft.

1609
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 2: That's great. Well, he's not quite ready to be our

1610
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 2: number two receiver here in Week one. Well, don't worry.

1611
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 2: We got this guy that we signed in free agency.

1612
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 2: He can fill that role in the interim. Those are

1613
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 2: the kinds of contingency plans that Brandon Bean often builds

1614
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 2: into the roster at a number of positions, and we've

1615
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 2: seen it year after year after year after year. He

1616
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 2: usually has contingency plans acquired in free agency that either

1617
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 2: supersede the plans in the draft or back up the

1618
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 2: plans in the draft. And that's kind of the way

1619
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,839
Speaker 2: it's gone with the high priced or the high investment

1620
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 2: draft choices. Let's take a look at the tweets sheet

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01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 2: brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, official equipment moving company.

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01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills got some good answers here. When we

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01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 2: ask what roster needs should the Bills focus on in

1624
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 2: free agency? Jim says, a bonifide number two receiver. All

1625
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 2: top wide receiver options will be gone by twenty eight.

1626
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 2: Grab the best defensive end, defensive lineman, or safety at

1627
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 2: that point. I don't think any safeties are going in

1628
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 2: round one this year. Jim, look for a wide receiver

1629
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 2: in rounds three or four. Rams found a good one

1630
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 2: in round six or seven last year. Nikoua was a

1631
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 2: fifth round pick. Steve says, I think they need to

1632
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 2: fill all the roster holes in free agency with a

1633
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 2: veteran presence and then hope to get better at the

1634
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 2: position through the draft. Draft picks need to be the

1635
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 2: best player available and not picked based upon having a

1636
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 2: roster hole. I would tend to agree within reason. Drew

1637
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 2: Hall says, receiver, receiver, receiver, he's on Judy's train. Then

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01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 2: he says a snack and a nap, and then more receivers.

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01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 3: Drew Holl, that's my old Frank Kent Hull's son, Drew,

1640
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 3: who's chiming into the show. Yeah, that this refrain, this

1641
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 3: receiver train frame refrain. Oh, it's gaining moment, train refrain.

1642
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 3: It's already headed down, headed downhill with no brakes and

1643
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 3: with Judy shovelin coal on the steam engine. So it's

1644
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 3: gonna until free agency hits and the Bills start to

1645
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 3: alleviate that, you know, start to scratch that itch. I

1646
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 3: don't know they're ever gonna be able to reach it,

1647
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 3: but it's gonna it's gonna continue until the draft. I'm

1648
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 3: kind of on we were here last year. I kind

1649
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 3: of we forgot all about it because the season takes

1650
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 3: off and he started getting rolling with what they're doing.

1651
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 3: But this is an arms race in the a f C.

1652
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 3: It's a you gotta ga the quarterback, which everybody does

1653
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 3: almost in the A f c Uh. There's it's stacked

1654
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 3: at the top end. We even got another one this

1655
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 3: year and C. J. Stroud who got at it in

1656
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 3: and he got he got thrown up close to the

1657
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 3: top of that mix. Uh. Aaron Rodgers back in the

1658
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 3: mix this year. Theoretically, Trevor Lawrence. I don't know if

1659
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 3: he can regress further, but I think he'll probably take

1660
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 3: a step forward this year. Joe Burrow is gonna maybe

1661
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 3: not pull a calf muscle this year. So you're gonna

1662
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 3: have this whole thing going where. You know, the Bills

1663
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 3: have got a guy, no question about it. Job is

1664
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 3: as good as any of those jokers. Now you got

1665
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 3: to fill it in around him and play well on

1666
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,959
Speaker 3: those days. You know, you got to get an offense

1667
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 3: that can score on anybody no matter what they do.

1668
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 3: If they do scheme a guy free on the quarterback.

1669
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 3: I like our quarterbacks chance. I'm still making that play

1670
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,679
Speaker 3: a win, but you need some guys to help him.

1671
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 2: Break time for us. Here, Steve and I close it

1672
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 2: up next on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned. The final

1673
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 2: thoughts here on the tweet sheet George says d line

1674
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 2: only one defensive tackle under contract and most likely losing

1675
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 2: two defensive ends, and free agency looks like good value

1676
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 2: in the safety market and a cheap wide receiver. Jack

1677
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,640
Speaker 2: says wide receiver. Don't get me wrong, still want to

1678
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,599
Speaker 2: draft one high, but a depth player like Moody or Born.

1679
01:28:57,840 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 2: I know he was hurt. Yeah, ACL in October is

1680
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 2: also need to prioritize resigning Daikwon Jones and will need

1681
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 2: some answers at strong safety. Maybe Rap resigns, Maybe Chin

1682
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 2: Curl or Whitehead could be nice free agent additions. Garvey

1683
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 2: says safety can see them trying to replicate what they

1684
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 2: did in twenty seventeen. Then defensive line system fits who

1685
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 2: are affordable that can start the year and allow the

1686
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,600
Speaker 2: draft picks to learn behind them. Yeah, they got it.

1687
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 3: All sounds good.

1688
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 2: It does easier said than done, And Brandon Bean be

1689
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 2: the first to tell you because but the other thing,

1690
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,759
Speaker 2: we got to remember, you're competing with thirty one other teams.

1691
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah for those guys, right, exactly right.

1692
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 2: That's it for us today. Maddie's in here with me.

1693
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 2: Tomorrow we'll also have Eric head Holme from NFL dot

1694
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 2: Com we'll see it one