1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Third hour of play and Buck kicks off right now, 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: last hour of the week. Everybody, thanks for rocking out 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: with us for as many days as you have, or 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: if you're just joining, welcome to the party. 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 2: Pal. 6 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: We've got a lot to discuss with all of you here. 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: We talked about that Wall Street Journal story. It was crap, 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: so I think we can kind of leave it, leave 9 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: it there for now. Nothing really, nothing really worth reading 10 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: about or getting too deep into. But the White House 11 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: has responded to it and they've gotten into it. Caroline Levitt, 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: the White House Press Secretary, has some interesting things that 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: she has said in the last twenty four hours, which 14 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: we may dive into here to bring us up to speed. 15 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how much more, Mom Donnie, we will 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: do today. Mom Donnie, the Kami, Will Trump send him 17 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: back to Mommy? Well, I guess it's not but Trump. 18 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: It's really up to Eric Adams, Cuomo Sliwa. Those guys 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: have got to figure out something, because all three of 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: them staying in means that Mam Donnie is the mayor. 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: But we'll get on that maybe another time. Immigration and 22 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: Customs enforcement stories to hit as well. But Clay had 23 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: something that just happened that he wanted to bring to 24 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: my attention. I don't even know what this one. 25 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: This is like. 26 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: You know when you pick like the Secret Square on 27 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: Hollywood Square or whatever. 28 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: I have no idea what's going to come out here? 29 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: What have you got for us? 30 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: So I want to get your reaction to this. This 31 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: is from Greg Price Tulsea Gabbert, who you met with 32 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: because they would not let me in the White House. 33 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: To refrain, they were like, look at this guy wearing 34 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: flip flops and the old executive office building and shorts. 35 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: What kind of a ruffian is he? To be fair, 36 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: I still do not have a real ID. They would 37 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: not allow me in the White House. I do have 38 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: a passport, so that's how I can get in. And 39 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: he was wearing a suit. To be fair, I just 40 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: like to throw shade go ahead. 41 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: I think a jacket. 42 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: I definitely got ripped for not wearing a full suit, 43 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: but it was nice pants and a jacket, which basically 44 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: is about as dressed up as I get anywhere. But 45 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: this is from Greg Price, d and I gabbered. I'm 46 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: reading his tweet. Greg does really good work. D and 47 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: I Gabbert just declassified a draft Presidential Daily Briefing. You 48 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: used to be involved in some of these back in 49 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: the day, which is why I want to get PDBS. Yes, 50 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: I want to get your read on this from December eight, 51 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, in which Obama's Intel community assessed Russia did 52 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: not impact the twenty sixteen election, and I'm going to 53 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: read a opening here and I want to get your 54 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: take on it. We assess Russia and criminal actors did 55 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: not impact recent US election results by conducting malicious cyber activities. 56 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: Russian government affiliated actors most likely compromised in Illinois voter 57 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: registration database and unsuccessfully attempted the same in other states. 58 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: Election monitoring and the type of systems targeted infrastructure not 59 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: used to count or votes make it highly unlikely it 60 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: would have resulted in altering any state's official vote result. 61 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: Criminal activity also failed to reach the scale and sophistication 62 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: necessary to change election outcomes. Possible government affiliated Russian actors 63 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: could have extracted voting data, but again, we don't think 64 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: Russia really. 65 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: Impacted the twenty sixteen election. 66 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: This is significant, I think because they laundered this through 67 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: the media to create the idea of Trump as the 68 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: Manchurian candidate Vladimir Putin put his scale on the election. 69 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: That's why Trump won. 70 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: How would you assess what I just read to you 71 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: in your experience on the presidential Daily briefing? How important 72 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: would this lack? It's being declassified by Tulsi's team. 73 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. 74 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: Would you tell me what you think about this? This 75 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: was supposedly from December eighth, twenty sixteen. 76 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: Well, it's useful. 77 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm glad she's he classified it, but it goes in 78 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: the We already knew they were lying and it was 79 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: all a fabrication. So how much does this really do 80 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: to move the conversation or move perception? It's another data 81 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: point for something we already know. It doesn't change our mind. 82 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: It just solidifies what was already quite clear and has 83 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: been for years, which is that not only was Russia 84 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: unable to do anything meaningful to affect the twenty sixteen election, 85 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: but the Democrats knew that, didn't care, and lied about it. 86 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: So to me, Clay, it's a little bit like the 87 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: Biden dementia cover up stuff, except this is now going 88 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: back almost ten years. The dementia cover up still has 89 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: more psychological and therefore political importance. To the American people 90 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: because it was in the most recent election, and so 91 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't tell anything we don't already know. For example, 92 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 1: if someone else just pleaded the fifth to your thesis 93 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: about them being worried about, maybe they are getting a 94 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: little bit worried. If there's a third now Biden White 95 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: House staffer who has pleaded the fifth, or it's come 96 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: out that he's pleted the fifth. So to me, is 97 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: it significant that there was a PDB in twenty sixteen. Yeah, 98 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: it would have been really significant from twenty sixteen to 99 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, so we could have avoided the whole Russia 100 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: collusion absurdity, which which did hurt the country and was 101 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 1: used unfortunately somewhat effectively against the Trump administration. The process 102 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: is the punishment, you know, one of my favorite phrases. 103 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: But this, this is a little bit of yeah, of course, 104 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? 105 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 3: This is in the yeah of course file. 106 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: The intelligence community was aware of this at some level, 107 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: and yet it was suppressed and Democrat partisans, the deep 108 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: state within decided to run publicly with a very different storyline. 109 00:05:59,080 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 110 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: I think that's maybe the biggest part here, And I 111 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: want to I feel a little bit sometimes on the show, 112 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: Like one of the things that we can provide particular 113 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: benefit to you on is you have the intelligence background, 114 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: which is why I wanted to ask you about the PDB, 115 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: something that I've never been involved in I and you're 116 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: you're involved in media as well, but from running media company, 117 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: running a media company, the degree to which and this 118 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: is something that even stunned me that I would not 119 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: have known beforehand, but seeing it, like what do they 120 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: always say, like people who have seen how the hot 121 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: dogs and the sausage is made would never eat it. 122 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: Like if you run a meat packing plant, you are 123 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: not excited when you get to a ballpark to say, hey, 124 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: give me a hot dog because you've seen like how 125 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: nasty it can be behind the scenes and what actual 126 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: is involved in a hot dog. That's kind of how 127 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: I feel about the media. And the thing that I 128 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: would say the general public doesn't understand enough is they 129 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: launder stories, even if they know they're not true, through 130 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: partisan hacks in the media, to then use to cite 131 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: for the truth of the matter. And that might sound 132 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: a little bit confusing, but it may once you start 133 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: to see it, you can't not see it. In other words, 134 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: It's one thing if they would come out and say, hey, 135 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: based on our background research, here's a video of candidate 136 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: X saying why they don't do that. That's actually way 137 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: more honest. Hey, Kamala said this, let me share it. 138 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: When they do that, it's very transparent. They will go 139 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 1: to the media and they'll say, hey, we're gonna hand 140 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: you this. Can you write it at the New York Times? 141 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: Can you write it at the Washington Post? And then 142 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna cite your reporting as if we didn't create 143 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: it ourselves. They launder stories. And when I see this 144 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: with the d and I that now Tulsi is bringing out. 145 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: The really diabolical thing is when they launder stories that 146 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: they know are untrue. And here the entire Russia collusion. 147 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: This is Trump is one hundred percent right about this, 148 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: and yet we still haven't had a lot of accountability. Frankly, 149 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: any based on these documents that are coming out, they 150 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: knew that Russia didn't somehow rig the twenty sixteen election. 151 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: I have told you on this program, we bought Facebook ads. 152 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: I ran a media company. Facebook ads are expensive. Some 153 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: of you out there have small businesses. You bought Facebook ads? 154 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: If I could spend one hundred thousand dollars and turn 155 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: my business into a billion dollar business. It would be 156 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: the most effective ad campaign of history. If Russia could 157 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: spend one hundred thousand dollars when people are spending billions 158 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: and swing the election, it would be the most influential 159 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: intelligence by in the history of mankind. It didn't happen. 160 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: They laundered this through people who should know better, a lie, 161 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: and they basically tried to destroy the entire first Trump 162 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: term over it. My reason why I bring this up. 163 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: Are they trying to do the same thing with Epstein? 164 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 2: Now? 165 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: Are they? 166 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: When I saw that Washington, this Wall Street Journal story, 167 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: it actually made me think. We talked about it some 168 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: in the first hour. Trump was criticized for saying this 169 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: is the Russia collusion hoax all over again. But I 170 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: think when you look at it in retrospect, he knew 171 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: this story was coming, and now they're going to try 172 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: to attach him to Epstein in a way to knock 173 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: his momentum down even if they know it's not true. 174 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: Is there a connection there? Can we learn from history 175 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 3: and think about what they're attempting to do. Now, I 176 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: think that's a. 177 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: Really to me prescient analysis that you could be putting 178 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: in place here thinking about what they did before. 179 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: We are reminded. 180 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: Though of the line from Omar in the Wire, if 181 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: you come at the king, best not miss. 182 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 3: They have come at the King many times. 183 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: Including shooting at him as we as we know, and 184 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: have missed or in that case well missed by enough 185 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: that he's okay. But they've come at him legally, they've 186 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: come at him medically, they've come at him spiritually. 187 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 3: I mean, they've thrown everything at Trump. 188 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: So I would say this Clay, even if if what 189 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: you're saying is true, and maybe it is, maybe there 190 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: are elements now that are realizing because one thing about 191 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: this is they can't take Trump down. They know they 192 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: can't take Trump down while he has Maga behind him. 193 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 3: It just doesn't work. They cannot separate. 194 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: They can't. They're attack. It doesn't matter what they say. 195 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: They will not take Maga away from the Trump side 196 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: of the equation. They think maybe on this one they 197 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: can create some daylight, or they can you know, get 198 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: into those fissures, they can exploit the gaps. But I 199 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: would say the other side of this is they've they've 200 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: throw own so much of Trump so many times that 201 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: I think that the likelihood is this all just gets filtered. 202 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 3: This gets filtered. 203 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: Through the Yeah, another time they're trying to smear this guy. 204 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: Another time they're trying to manufacture something to create some 205 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: delusion here and use it. 206 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: For political ends. 207 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: And I think that MAGA has seen it too many 208 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: times and they're not about to fall for it. 209 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: Now. 210 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: That's that's my real sense of it. Well, I second 211 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: question for you President's daily briefing. To be fair, I 212 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: think I said this was like December eighth, twenty sixteen. 213 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: The daily briefing can change based on what the intelligence shows, right, 214 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: so you could give I'm guessing you tell me the 215 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: briefing on December eighth could be very different than the 216 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: briefing that you get on December fifteenth. Is that fair 217 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: to say? Because the intelligence gathering can continue to shift. 218 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: So maybe there is some report out there where they said, hey, 219 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: we do think Russia had a more impactful but we're not. 220 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: Do you want me to put my Do you want 221 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: me to put my little cip aurocrat had on for 222 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: a second, Paul, this is Clay. This PDB is just 223 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: a snapshot in time. There was more information, more intelligence 224 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: that came in raw intelligence that after it was further 225 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: verified and analyzed, was much more substantively pointed in the 226 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: direction of Russia interference, you know, I you know, oh, 227 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: the interagency process and we were doing our coordination, we 228 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: were looking at the various various verticals here of where 229 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: this intelligence was coming from, and with our source verification, 230 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: we came to the conclusion that you know, they'll just 231 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: talk you in circles, man, I mean, they'll come up 232 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: with whatever whatever they want to say. At the end 233 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 1: of the sentence was the conclusion, they'll find a way 234 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: to get there, trust me. So that's the other part 235 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: of this too. This is a data point that they 236 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: will say is among many. You know, just look at 237 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: what they've said. Oh my gosh, George Bush, you didn't 238 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: do anything about bin Laden determined to attack in the US. Well, 239 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: that's a pretty broad thing, everybody. It's a big country. Yeah, 240 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: and it's a long time to just know that somebody 241 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: wants to hit you, Like if I somebody, Hey, there's 242 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: a guy out there, and one day he's going to 243 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: walk up to you and punch you. Okay, when where 244 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: how So, there's a lot of ways to manipulate the 245 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: the the PDB as the snapshot in time depending on 246 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: which way you want to go when you do. And 247 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: I've briefed the PDB to the presidents, so trust me, 248 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: I know when you just did the bureaucrat double triple 249 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: speak there. 250 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 3: It's just I hate you. Your head hurt. You were 251 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 3: my head hurt. I hate meetings. 252 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: Anytime somebody's like, hey, can we get together for a No, 253 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to meet on anything. 254 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 3: If you can't text it to me, I don't need 255 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 3: to know it. 256 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 4: Uh. 257 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: I just I think the meetings almost always. 258 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: Are a colossal waste of time if you actually do 259 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: something for it, Like do they have meetings at mechanic shops, 260 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: Like like, hey, we got cars to fix, but first 261 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: let's have a meeting where we sit around. Do they 262 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: have lots of construction meetings if you actually build something. 263 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: To me, meetings are almost all always worthless or fix something, 264 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: or are constructive in any way towards making something that 265 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: didn't exist before. I just I might be the most 266 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: anti meeting person on the planet. 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That's eight four four 287 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: eight two four safe eight four four eight two four 288 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: s a f E. 289 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 3: Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do 290 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: a lot of it with the Sunday Hang. Join Clay 291 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: and Buck as they. 292 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: Laugh it up in the Clay and Buck podcast beat 293 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,239 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 294 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We mentioned 295 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: PBS NPR defunded. With your text, pay your dollars. They 296 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: can compete in the open marketplace of ideas like everyone else. 297 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 298 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert also canceled. We've been having some fun with that. 299 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: Here he here he is. We didn't play this right. 300 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure here he is cut 301 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: sixteen announcing next year. 302 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: It's all done next May. 303 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: Listen, before we start the show, I want to let 304 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: you know something that I found out just last night. 305 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: Next year will be our last season. The network will 306 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: be ending the Late Show in May. 307 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 3: And yeah, I share your feelings. It's not just. 308 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: The end of our show, but it's the end of 309 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: the Late Show on CBS. I'm not being replaced. This 310 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: is all just going away. And I do want to 311 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: say I do want to say that the folks at 312 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: CBS have been great partners. I'm so grateful to the 313 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: Tiffany Network for giving me this chair and this beautiful 314 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: theater to call home. 315 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 3: Okay, he killed the late shown. 316 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: He killed it only show, not only his show. I 317 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: think he destroyed late night television. I think that is 318 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: his legacy because he had success in the first Trump 319 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: term just turning his show into left wing anti Trump propaganda, 320 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: and everybody followed him because the initial ratings suggested that's 321 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: what they should do. I think the similar thing happened 322 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: at CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times, Washington Post. They 323 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: destroyed themselves on the rock of Trump. They dashed their 324 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: own brains out, and I just I don't know that 325 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: it comes back. I was thinking about this during the 326 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: commercial break we had at the end of the hour. 327 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: I love late night television. I like the idea of 328 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:31,479 Speaker 1: comedians making everybody laugh by ridiculing and lampooning everybody across 329 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: the entire political and racial and sexuality, whatever spectrum there is. 330 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: Can it come back? Can it ever come back? 331 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think it would have died, 332 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: certainly not now, but for Stephen Colbert's destruction of this 333 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: Trump destroyed his entire existence as a show. 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He was awarded the Bronze Star 342 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: Medal among many others for his service in the Army. 343 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: Ali says Stephen will always be the love of her 344 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: life and her boys real life superheroes. Thanks to friends 345 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: like you, Tula Towers helped Ali with a mortgage free home, 346 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: giving security and hope in the darkest hours. 347 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 3: It's what Tunnel to Towers does help. 348 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: More families like the Dwyers join us in donating eleven 349 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: dollars a month to Tunnel to Towers at T two 350 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: t dot org. That's t the number two t dot org. 351 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: And then we get something even more serious, get thrown 352 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: over to France and them all of a sudden, like 353 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: it's delivered by a passion, your pigeon or a carrier 354 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: pigeon rather passenger pigeons. I think those all went extinctcause 355 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: we shot them all. But carrier pigeons are still around 356 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: and out of nowhere. Producer Greg attaches to the pigeon's 357 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: little leg little scroll. The scroll lands on my desk, 358 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: and it tells me that. On the Sean Hannity television program, 359 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: Riley Gaines, is steamed swimmer, patriot and defender of women 360 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: in sports, decided that she was going to just splash 361 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: a cannon ball, if you will, writ in Clay's face 362 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: on Sean Hannity's show. In the discussion about whether mister 363 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: Clay Travis would make it from Alcatraz to shore in 364 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: one piece our own, Riley gains not holding back at all, 365 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: not even waiting for the starter's pistol dove right in 366 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: This Is twenty seven play it. 367 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 3: Are you going to swim to Alcatraz? Yes? 368 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 5: I'm actually in San Francisco right now tomorrow. I wanted 369 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 5: to prove the theory can we escape Alcatraz personally? Look, 370 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 5: I did this last year. Actually, granted I was not 371 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 5: nearly thirty one weeks pregnant at the time. 372 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 2: I did. 373 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 5: Let me tell you, Sean, more so than I'm scared 374 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 5: of the sharks or any of the current or anything else. 375 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: It is so cold. 376 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 5: So do I think prisoners have escaped? No chance. Clay 377 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 5: Travis was actually just on with Jesse Waters he thinks 378 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 5: he could escape. I don't think so at all. I 379 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 5: think Clay Travis quite quite frankly, would drown if he 380 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 5: tried to escape Alcatraz. 381 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 3: But I'm doing it tomorrow. I will keep you updated. 382 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 3: Oh wow, I think I agree with you. 383 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 4: I think every bet I've had Travis, I win, and 384 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 4: I'm putting all my money on you making it and 385 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: him failing dramatically and him having to be saved by 386 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 4: the boat that's hopefully following behind him with. 387 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 3: The flying elbow off the top rope. I don't even know. Oh, 388 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 3: Sean was gonna throw you down like that. 389 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: That's like the most popular show in America. First of all, 390 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen that. Riley actually texted me and told me, hey, 391 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: I just obliterated you on Hannity, and I was like, 392 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: send me the link, and I had it seen it, 393 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: and I had totally forgotten about it. And I don't 394 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: know that I've been tagged in this producer, Greg, you 395 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: can certainly share that. I mean, I think that I 396 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: would I'm gonna have to swim it. I'm gonna have 397 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: to swim it. And maybe Sean needs to be in 398 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: the boat, like watching reporting minute by minute. Oh, I 399 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: would get in the launch boat alongside. It would be 400 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: the safety boat to make sure when you start to drown, 401 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: we'll pull you out, and Sean can just be there 402 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: with the bullhorn trying to motivate you. He is right 403 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: that I've had some bad bets with Sean. I think 404 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: I owe Sean like a thousand dollars on sports bets 405 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: over the year. He hasn't tried to collect yet, and 406 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: so I've been trying to avoid him because I don't 407 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: have a lot of cash on me all the time, 408 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: so I don't want him to bankrupt me there. But 409 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: I didn't even know that I had been just attacked 410 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: so savagely on Fox News last night. And speaking of Alcatraz, 411 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: there's alligator Alcatraz, which we've been discussing talked a little 412 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: about yesterday here in Florida, South Florida, where they're holding 413 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: migrants and now or illegal aliens. We should start to 414 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: use the proper term again now in actual Alcatraz. Trump 415 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: just sent some senior officials there. They really are trying 416 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: to use this facility again, if I understand it correctly, 417 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: ag BONDI was there yesterday along with Secretary of the 418 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: Interior Doug Burgham. So I think on the org chart 419 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: Alcatraz would be under the viewership and auspices of Doug 420 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: Bergham and so which, by the way, since I often 421 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: have brilliant ideas, I need to text Doug and suggest 422 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: my national monument at Butler if you missed it earlier. 423 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: Dave McCormick, Senator from Pennsylvania, was on. He liked that idea. 424 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: I didn't even think about textan this's a good idea. 425 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: I'm mean to text Doug Burgham because I think he 426 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: actually has the ability to help to declare what is 427 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: and is not a national monument, because that's under his 428 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: purview in the Cabinet. But yeah, the reports are I 429 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: was reading this morning that it's going to cost a 430 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: billion dollars to retrofit or more, but that Trump wants 431 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: the symbolic nature of Alcatraz as a prison. That is 432 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: obviously an efficient and effective prison because of the distance 433 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: which I could easily swim between Alcatraz and San Francisco 434 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: Bay and that he's going to go through with it, 435 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: and he wants to do it quickly. Now the challenge 436 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: is it's hard. I would imagine many of you out 437 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: there in California know it's typically hard to get things 438 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: built very rapidly in the state of California, and I 439 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: would imagine Trump would want this complete before we actually 440 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,479 Speaker 1: get to the end of his term. But as a 441 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: monument to symbolic edifice, to reflect American embrace of prisons, 442 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: which is the exact opposite, we should play this because 443 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: I do think it's a cultural disconnect. Our boy, Mom, 444 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: Donnie the Kami, did you see this book? Because I 445 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: can tie it in with the Alcatraz He says he 446 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: doesn't even understand the purpose of prisons and that he 447 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: doesn't think they should exist. We have that audio, but 448 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: I think it's a perfect contrast with what Trump is 449 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: attempting to do, not only symbolically but also from a 450 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: prison perspective with Alcatraz. 451 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: Listen, are prisons obsolete? 452 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: Coming through with the quotes, through with the titles of 453 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: the books, I have to read that. Actually I haven't 454 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: read that as yet, but I think that frankly, I mean, 455 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: what pers do they serve, right. 456 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 5: I think we have to ask ourselves that. 457 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, can I can I walk everybody through this 458 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: for a second real quick, because I think this is important. 459 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: So it was deep diving into this back in the 460 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: days of BLM two point zero, the George Floyd riots 461 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: and all of that, the defund which they walked away 462 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: from because it was politically a hugely you know, soon 463 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: after the riots happened. It was a hugely unpopular idea 464 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: and it's a crazy idea. Defund police Clay is not 465 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: the actual end that the Left seeks in this country 466 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: when it comes to the criminal justice system. They want 467 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: the abolition of police and the abolition of prison, prisons. 468 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: Abolished prisons and abolished police is what the true activist 469 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: left seeks as their goal for the criminal justice system 470 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: in this country. And they shase and they choose that 471 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: term abolition specifically because they are trying to tie it 472 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: to the morally righteous crusade of abolishing slavery in this country. 473 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: So they choose that word very intentionally, right, Oh, it's abolition, abolition. 474 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: When when you refer to somebody historically this country is 475 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: an abolitionist, they're they're on the right side of history. 476 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: They're a hero, they're a good person. When you hear 477 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: about abolished prisons, you would generally think this person is insane. 478 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: That is what the left actually believes in. Mamdani as 479 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: a leftist, as a COMMI thinks that we need to 480 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: get to a place where there are no more prisons. 481 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: And also they're no more police, they are just social workers. 482 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes for everybody. You guys have 483 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: seen like the Batman movies where where you know Arkham 484 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: Asylum gets or the cartoon the actual comic strip or 485 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: Arkham Asylum is let open and the whole city turns 486 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: into chaos and bedlam. Yes, yeah, this is actually what 487 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: they want. And again this is why I said yesterday, 488 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: I think we should let the rest of the nation COMMI, 489 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: mom dommy win and then unfortunately, as a great swimmer, 490 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: I understand that some of you are not great swimmers. 491 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: Some of metaphorically New York would have to drown in crime, 492 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: but we would potentially win the House of Representatives back. 493 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: It's sad, but sometimes you got to leave a guy behind. 494 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: Sometimes you do have to leave a man behind. I 495 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: understand the general rule is no man left behind, but 496 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: caveat if you know I I think Riley Gaines and 497 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: Sean Hannit, you're going to leave you behind if you 498 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: can't make the Alcatraz swim. I think they made that 499 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: one clear as well. First of all, by the way, 500 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: that's you, I'm just accidentally hit you on the on 501 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: the You should go subscribe to the Clay and Buck feed. 502 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: But Riley just tweeted that she completed the swim. She 503 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: is thirty one weeks pregnant with a baby girl, soon 504 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: to be a mom, and she just completed I'm just 505 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: scrolling through Twitter while I was talking to you, while 506 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: I was dealing with the scurriless attacks levied against me 507 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: by both Sean Hannity and Riley Gaines. And I have 508 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: made a pledge, and it is important pledge. I am 509 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: going to swim Next year when they have the Escape 510 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: from Alcatraz swim, I'm going to escape from Alcatraz. They 511 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: have a yearly thing where they do it. 512 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: Literally. 513 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: I think this is what Riley was doing next year 514 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: at this time. I am going to make the swim. 515 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: I'm going to do it, and I'm going to do 516 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: it on behalf of all the haters. All the doubters, 517 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: of whom there are many, Riley Shawn, this is. 518 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 3: A good This is a good show. Audience really enjoys it. 519 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: I don't know if we gotta we gotta do like 520 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: a daily eulogy for the the fuck and the guy 521 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: formerly known as Klay Travis until a great White shark 522 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: ate him show, Like, I don't. 523 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 3: Know if we need to do that. 524 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: I would be thinking to myself, there are way too 525 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: many people rooting. I don't think there's that many people 526 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: that would root for me to drown some I think 527 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that would root for me 528 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: to get eaten by a shark. I think that they 529 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: would think that there is some poetic justice in, you know, 530 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: giving all my animal talk over the years, me getting 531 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: eaten by a shark. So I would be a little 532 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: bit nervous because it's a not a good way to go. 533 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 3: You're really gonna do this, I think you're gonna try it. 534 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna try it. 535 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you can always doggy paddle, you know, you 536 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: could go slow and eventually you'll make it. You might 537 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: end up in Oakland or something, because it occurrence will 538 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: take you pretty far, but you know Oakland is at 539 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: least on land. I'm way more nervous about getting swept 540 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: out to the Pacific. You know, my my corpse ending 541 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: up in Hawaii. 542 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 3: I can't let you do this. 543 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: I gotta get out and now, obviously I'm gonna be 544 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: there in the stands, or even better, I'll be in 545 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: one of those launch boats, nice and warm. I'll probably 546 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: have some hot cocoa in my hands, and I'll just 547 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: be yelling at Clay. What are the yells of the 548 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: sled dogs, mush mush? I would on the face Sean 549 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: Hannity just immediately assume that I would drown. 550 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: I mean, he's never seen me swim, Like he just 551 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: has no faith whatsoever in me. I mean to hesitate. 552 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 3: Sean didn't hesitate at all, That's what I'm saying. 553 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: Like he just took the measure of your swimming ability. 554 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: And he he's an honest guy, man. He couldn't hold back. 555 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: He decided you weren't. You weren't didn't have the necessary buoyancy. 556 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: I've definitely got the buoyancy. Like I've got too much 557 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: buoyancy right now. I need to lose some buoyancy. So 558 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: I need about a ten or twelve pounds off the body. 559 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: But right now I think I would just float. 560 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 3: I think I was. You got to keep that. That's 561 00:29:58,840 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 3: brown fat. 562 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: You gotta keep. You know, it's like the deep layer fat. 563 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: You want that. That's insulation and buoyancy. You don't want to. 564 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 3: Lose I do. 565 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: I am a little bit nervous about how cold the 566 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: water is because I was just up in Michigan. 567 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 3: And that water is cold. 568 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: And I definitely think that that jumping in and being 569 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: in there for a few hours, which probably how long 570 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: it would take me to swim. I'm more concerned other 571 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: than the shark attack of potentially dying of hypothermia. I 572 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: don't know how long it took Riley, but I think 573 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: it would take me. A whole lot of people watching 574 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,239 Speaker 1: this this swim, I don't I don't think they just 575 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: like let people out there, and and they do. But 576 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is that most of those people are 577 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: able to swim rapidly. I don't know what the rule 578 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: is for how long you can be in super supremely 579 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: cold water without hypothermia setting in. You know what's gonna 580 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: end up happening, and it's gonna be a great moment 581 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: for women in sports. You're gonna have to like wrap 582 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: your arm around Riley's shoulder and she's gonna like tow 583 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: you in. You know, she's gonna Riley's gonna pull pull 584 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: your ass into shore because that that's the kind of 585 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: gal she is. 586 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 3: Because you're gonna walk a ride medium halfway through. 587 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: While eight months pregnant, she's got a baby, and she's 588 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: got me on her back, like just kind of swimming across. 589 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: By the way. 590 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: Pregnant lady, Pregnant lady saves Clay Travis from from drowning 591 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: and charity swim is the headline we all need to see. 592 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 3: That headline would probably do numbers. I'm not gonna lie. 593 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: It probably would. 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There you go, that's what you want to hear. 629 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: Everybody else doesn't have my back. Ten year old. He's like, 630 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: dad's got this to be fair. This all started when 631 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: I took my seventeen year old to Alcatraz. We were 632 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: on a visit to San Francisco looking at colleges all 633 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: over the place, and we were standing there looking at 634 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: out across San Francisco Bay and I said, I think 635 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: I can make the swim, and my seventeen year old said, no, no, no, no, Dad, 636 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: you would drown. And then we argued about whether or 637 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: not I could make the swim. That's legitimately where all 638 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: this started. But I've always thought my ten year old 639 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: was smarter than my seventeen year old, and he's right, 640 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: I would make that swim, and I'm going to train 641 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,959 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna make it happen, and I might. Now 642 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: I feel like I need to train and make it happen. 643 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: So I don't even know how you train for a 644 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: swim that long, by the way, like I think, because 645 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: I'm a lot. Yeah, but in a pool or do 646 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: you go to a lake? Is there a I mean, 647 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: if you ran like I did a half marathon, it 648 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: was miserable. It turns out to run a marathon, which 649 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: is not fun. You also have to spend a lot 650 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: of time training to run the marathon, which is even 651 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: less fun. But it's easy right in theory. You know, 652 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: there's lots of places you could run long distances. Here's 653 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: the way running works. You just start like Forrest Gump, 654 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: and then at some point you can just stop. And 655 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: it's miserable. And my argument, which always gets the runners angry, 656 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: is I think running is for people with really low 657 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: self esteem because they're like, I don't know if I 658 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: can do this. Oh look how far I ran. I 659 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: Oprah ran a marathon. I am more athletic than Oprah. 660 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: There's no doubt in my mind that I could run 661 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: a marathon. The problem with running a marathon is you 662 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: have to train for it for a long time. But 663 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: there's lots of places you could train. How do you 664 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: train to swim like a mile and a half. Do 665 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: you even I mean, I guess you could do like 666 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: one hundred laps in the pool. 667 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 3: You get any ocean and you swim, But how do 668 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 3: you know. 669 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: How far an ocean distance is? Well, I mean you can, 670 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: like I'm thinking about in Miami Beach, for example, you 671 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: start in front of one hotel basically, and you swim 672 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 1: down to South Point Park or something and you look 673 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: at the on the GPS and you can calculate it. 674 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: But there's tides that like, is water distance impacted? Like, 675 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: it feels way more complicated. My my wife, this is fun, Copernicus. 676 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 1: We could calculate this, all right, This isn't that bad. 677 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: My wife is of the opinion that I would drown. 678 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: And we were in the Bahamas. She had me swim 679 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: a decent distance and I don't even know if I 680 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: talked about this on the air. She was like, moron, 681 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: you are going to drown. I want you to swim 682 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: in the bay all this distance. And so I was 683 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: doing the backstroke. She had no confidence that I could 684 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: do it, and I did it pretty easily. Because again 685 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm a great I'm just saying as 686 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: long as I didn't drown, I would end up on 687 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 1: the shore. This is the thing that people don't understand, Like, 688 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: if you swim long enough. 689 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 3: Eventually you get to where you need to go. I 690 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 3: can do it all right, Well, there we go. I 691 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 3: like where your head's out on this one. 692 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 1: And by the way, this is up on the Sunday Hang. 693 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 1: We had some fun with this. Producer Ali said, there's 694 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: lots of fun stuff. If you're on the road, go 695 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: subscribe to the podcast. Lots of fun Sunday Hang things. 696 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: I hate you Sean Hannity. I also hate you Riley Gaines. 697 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: You're off the Christmas card list. I just don't want 698 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: to be clear. Carrie insists that I go and make 699 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: sure that you don't drown, and so then Laura can 700 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: be certain that I will make sure you don't drown. 701 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 3: Off of off the dround