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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet wirl, and welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 1: Podcast presented by FanDuel. It's Tuesday, March thirty first, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six. I'm Jay Skis, back in the Classic Factory

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Speaker 1: and alongside me as always tast Mellice.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back Skis.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's gonna be back next to him. It's my

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Speaker 1: top shot, hot boy. Trey Kirby, Hey, welcome back Ski. Hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks man. Missed you guys, and last but not least,

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Speaker 1: making the magic happen, super producer jd. Hey, welcome backy.

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling the love today. Hit the light buttons, subscribe

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Speaker 1: if you're happy to have me back. I shouldn't have

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Speaker 1: said that numbers are gonna plumb. It gonna be worse

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Speaker 1: than yesterday's live viewers. The hell was going on with

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Speaker 1: the YouTube algorithm.

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Speaker 3: Somebody was in the tubes, going in the tubes.

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Speaker 1: I was checking in, and I was like, hold on,

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Speaker 1: hold on, there's way more than like eighty people here.

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Speaker 3: Eighty people in the stream.

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Speaker 1: Team know that's what I mean. So hopefully the numbers

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Speaker 1: are working today. Podcast listeners, we love you to five

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Speaker 1: star ratings and reviews. Lots to talk about some good

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Speaker 1: games last night. We're going to get into these three

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Speaker 1: proposals for the anti tanking, yes that the NBA is

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Speaker 1: going to try and fix this tanking issue. Will go

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Speaker 1: through all them, we'll explain them to some of you

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Speaker 1: out there, and we gotta talk about Jade and Ivy too.

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Speaker 1: But first, we had a wedgie in the Philadelphia Miami game. Now,

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Speaker 1: unfortunately we could not grab it last night, having some

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Speaker 1: computer difficulties, so we had number sixty eight. It happened

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Speaker 1: on the broadcast. We'll try and show it to you tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Paint the picture. Yeah, okay, go ahead, paint the picture.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah. It was me who watched it live. And

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Speaker 2: then I try and go grab it, but I've got

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Speaker 2: a blockage. I've got a an anti NBA watching block.

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Speaker 2: I can't draft.

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Speaker 1: You need to have a stint.

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Speaker 2: My league pass blocks it up. I got okay, I

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Speaker 2: got video grab each constipation anytime I try and grab something,

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Speaker 2: so I couldn't. I couldn't grab it live. Brian Scalabrini

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Speaker 2: also who was on the broadcast, this is a national broadcast.

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Speaker 2: Weggie Philly Miami early fourth quarter. Brian Scalabrini also said,

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Speaker 2: can we just get rid of these wedgies. Why do

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Speaker 2: we have to stop to play. These guys are NBA athletes.

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Speaker 2: They can just jump and get the ball. We don't

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Speaker 2: need to jumping up the court.

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Speaker 1: That would be cool. We're fine with that. We can

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Speaker 1: still track them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but there are going to be sometimes when

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Speaker 2: it's jammed in too hard and you've got multiple guys

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Speaker 2: jumping at the ball, jamming a finger up there, there's

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Speaker 2: possibility of some number one injuries number two, just some

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Speaker 2: extra time there that we're wasting, like us talking about

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Speaker 2: this wedgie.

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Speaker 3: No, we need to hear three proposals from Adam Silver

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Speaker 3: what to do after the.

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Speaker 1: Usually the broadcasters make the case of like why is

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Speaker 1: it a jump ball? How is it not the defenses?

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Speaker 1: That's what you usually hear from the broadcaster, which I

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Speaker 1: think you know, there's some merit to that it was

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Speaker 1: a misshot in. It was so bad it got lodged

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Speaker 2: I hear you there could easily be in offensive rebound.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little more concerned that I did not see

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Speaker 1: a lot of people telling us about this weggie. No,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm talking on Twitter, Rex and Blue Sky and

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Speaker 1: Instagram people usually come through. Here's the other thing though.

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Speaker 1: Somebody on substack did tell me about another wedgie that

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Speaker 1: occurred in the Sun's Grizzlies game. But it came after

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Speaker 1: the whistle, well after the whistle, so it's not going

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Speaker 1: to count. But I thought we were stuck at sixty seven,

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Speaker 2: At sixty eight. I thought we were going sound up

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Speaker 2: to hear Brian Scalabrini complain. I was ready for that,

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden constipation man as it

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Speaker 2: always it always happened. It constantly happens. It's this year

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Speaker 2: I'm watching it. I'm watching it, and then I pop

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Speaker 2: and then it stops.

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Speaker 2: It just stops right in your face. I thought I

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Speaker 1: Let me know next time. I'll help you up, bro,

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Speaker 1: I'll lack the system.

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Speaker 3: See this one tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We need to even show it. It's not even a

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Speaker 1: good web. Let's just move on.

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Speaker 2: David Mitchell missus shots from time. IM that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: Read about it in our sub stack at the end

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Speaker 1: of the week when we gread every Weggie, there you go.

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Speaker 1: That's a play for you link the show notes. Okay,

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Speaker 1: NBA games last night, I love he SGA. He stored

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Speaker 1: forty seven points as the Thunder outlasted the Pistons and

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Speaker 1: they secured consecutive sixty win seasons. Hell of a fight

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Speaker 1: I know, so something you guys were talking about. I

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Speaker 1: overtime free basketball. But in the n SGA in down

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Speaker 1: disting where he took over. And I'm sure we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about the one play that was called off the game

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Speaker 1: winning three pointer from SGA. They're like, no, no, that's

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Speaker 2: Then we went to was that a makeup call for

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Speaker 2: led to Kevin Herder's basket. And then as Shay's bringing

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Speaker 2: that guy who was able to poke it from him

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Speaker 2: is ejective from the game or fouls out of the game,

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Speaker 2: I should say. So after that, I mean Check could

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Speaker 2: have had a makeup foul. I thought his rebound attempt

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Speaker 2: that was his six, that was a make a foul.

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Speaker 2: And then Shae with the offensive foul, tried to hit

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Speaker 2: that game winner. Was it an extension of that off arm.

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Speaker 2: It's such a difficult thing to watch from our perspective, but.

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Speaker 1: That that one was no more egregious than so many

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Speaker 1: other ones. That was the weird part there. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean it maybe it got a little higher than more

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Speaker 2: It was a long chicken wing. I mean that was

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Speaker 2: an extended chicken.

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Speaker 1: Done it hundreds of times.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, he's got to stop. He's got it, I

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Speaker 3: mean hundreds yeah, Yeah, I mean he's playing. They can

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Speaker 3: So for them to call it in that moment was

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Speaker 3: just like Billy Crystal and forget Paris calling off Charles

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Speaker 3: Barkley's buzzer Vader. Sorry, that one came after the whistle,

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Speaker 3: so we said, let's play another five minutes.

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Speaker 2: That was fun and just that's how we'll settle things.

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Speaker 1: Yep. And SGA scored eight of the thirteen in overtime.

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Speaker 1: He was pretty.

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Speaker 2: But one points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this was the Pistons were up like what seven

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Speaker 1: when SGA scored six straight. Then he trusted big Jalen

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Speaker 1: save his life that night. But the double came, he

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Speaker 1: the game, excuse me, ninety nine ninety nine. And then

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Speaker 1: Detroit had possession in the closing seconds, but SGA got

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Speaker 1: the steal. That was a nice steal, great steal that

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Speaker 1: on the three pointer what would have been the game winner.

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Speaker 1: And then we went into overtime but entertaining and again Detroit,

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Speaker 1: this is like, this is one of those where you're like, damn,

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Speaker 1: that's actually a good loss, right there. You were down

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Speaker 1: everybody and put up a fight. Yeah, they played great,

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Speaker 1: They played really really hard.

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Speaker 3: I don't really necessarily think the thunder took him for

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Speaker 3: granted either. I thought it was just Detroit playing pretty well.

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Speaker 3: If I were Andrew Schleck's children, I would think this

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Speaker 3: is like what it was like for Trey Kirby to

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Speaker 3: be watching Michael Jordan. You never think you're gonna lose

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Speaker 3: when shake Gell just Alexander's on the court and he

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Speaker 3: steals wins like this, making plays not just getting to

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Speaker 3: the basket, not just hitting his mid range jumpers, but

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Speaker 3: the steal to get him back the ball back and

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Speaker 3: at least get a look to win the game, finding

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Speaker 3: Jalen Williams in the corner. Like he just does things

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Speaker 3: that get the team wins. That's why they've won sixty

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Speaker 3: It was like when you were watching Michael Jordan, like

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Speaker 3: we're never gonna lose, Right, We're never gonna lose because

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Speaker 3: we got the best guy and he can get a

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Speaker 3: shot anytime he That was great from Shaye because he

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Speaker 3: played the best on the thunder for sure, on a

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Speaker 3: chet Holmgren had a couple of nice takes, had a

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Speaker 3: beautiful snatch block, but not a hugely impactful game. Jalen Williams,

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Speaker 3: but they had SGA and that's kind of all you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Pistons to get to that point obviously a

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Speaker 2: great accomplishment and that big three that you guys mentioned

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Speaker 2: multiple times. Jalen Williams hitting from the corner that Chase

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Speaker 2: Kevin Herder was doing a decent job guardian one on one,

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Speaker 2: they didn't have to do that. I think the Pistons

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Speaker 2: were playing incredibly well. I mentioned Kevin Herder. This is

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Speaker 2: the best we've seen Kevin Herder play in a long time.

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Speaker 2: He's got this role here with the Pistons, and I

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Speaker 2: very good job because he's just done it so many

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Speaker 2: multiple ways. He can come up off the screen, obviously,

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Speaker 2: he can flare screen towards the corner. The baseline cuts

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Speaker 2: He's playing very, very good part of that Jade and

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Speaker 2: Ivy trade. We'll get to Jade and Ivy a little

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Speaker 2: bit later, obviously, but he did so well to combine

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Speaker 2: with guys like Karslaver, Marcus Sasser, Dennis Jenkins, Gavonte Greed.

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Speaker 2: Those guys just played so well, so well to get

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Speaker 2: to that point again. Four starters out for the Pistons.

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Speaker 3: Let's imagine Caid Cunningham isn't fit for the first round

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Speaker 3: of the playoffs. Can the Pistons still win a first

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Speaker 3: round series with the crew that they're I mean, not

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Speaker 3: the crew they rolled out last night. They're saying a

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Speaker 3: lot of guys extra besides Caid were out. But without Cad,

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Speaker 3: we're talking about Philadelphia, Orlando, Miami or Charlotte, A couple

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Speaker 3: of those teams are playing well. I mean, it'd be tough, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it would be tough.

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Speaker 1: I think they could not against all all those teams

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Speaker 1: you listed, I think maybe you know, do I have

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Speaker 1: more confidence in them being able to beat the Magic,

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Speaker 1: Victor wemen Yama recorded the NBA's third fastest double double

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Speaker 3: This was a fire hydrant versus a fire hose. It was,

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Speaker 3: He had a dunk on Yabu Sala where both their

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Speaker 1: It's amazing they're both French yeah.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, what twenty one, six and four and twenty

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Speaker 1: have made an argument that he was the MVP. Then

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Speaker 1: is what Reddick said, Well, he's been the MVP for

434
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Speaker 1: two of the three segments of the season end quote.

435
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Speaker 1: I thought this was funny timing, seeing is Luca did

436
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Speaker 1: not play last night. Yes, but they won and they won,

437
00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,479
Speaker 1: which is a little weird. But I know you've got

438
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Speaker 1: the text our guy, Tim Bontemps. Yeah, it came in

439
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 1: last night's final straw pole coming up? So how are

440
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Speaker 1: you guys? If you wanted to share your text, maybe

441
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 1: you've sent it, maybe you're waiting here for later this morning.

442
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Speaker 1: What will you be sending to Tim bond Temps when

443
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Speaker 1: it comes one two, three four five in the final

444
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Speaker 1: MVP vote for US?

445
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 2: I sent mine immediately. There was no blockage on my

446
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,199
Speaker 2: computer from sending texts. Good. That went straight out. It

447
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 2: went SGA Wemby, And then I debated, is it Yokich

448
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 2: R Luca?

449
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Speaker 1: Three?

450
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Speaker 2: I went Jokic Luca, Jalen Brown, Okay, my three four

451
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Speaker 2: five TK?

452
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Speaker 1: Did you send the text last night?

453
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Speaker 3: I would never wait. I don't want him to forget

454
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Speaker 3: about me. My ballot was the exact same as Tasses. Okay, yeah, okay.

455
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Speaker 2: I thought you'd have Luca above Yoke, but maybe not.

456
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Speaker 3: I mean, the guy's averaging at thirty point triple double,

457
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 3: like sixty percent from the field. Neither of them are

458
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 3: like defenders, right, so you're just factoring in the offense

459
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 3: on both sides. But I think I would disagree with

460
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Speaker 3: JJ that the fifteen to four fifteen to four start

461
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Speaker 3: made Luca the first segment MVP Thunderwear twenty four and one.

462
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 2: Yeah at the time, yeah, yeah, yeah, And Luca missed

463
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 2: part of that too. He wasn't in every single one

464
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Speaker 2: of those nineteen games. There was that injury where I

465
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,239
Speaker 2: made that. I remember it vividly because I made that

466
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Speaker 2: short about it. Seemed like teams were saying this, our

467
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 2: guys are going to be out longer than we think

468
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 2: they're going to be out because he had that leg injury,

469
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 2: and so he was out part of those games. So

470
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Speaker 2: did you forget about that, JJ, I mean that factors

471
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Speaker 2: into MVP voting. But also luca postgame was a postgame.

472
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Speaker 2: He was asked about it in Spanish because I just

473
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Speaker 2: read it in the ESPN article. I didn't see the

474
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Speaker 2: post game yeah, I know what you're talking about. Was

475
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Speaker 2: he wasn't there, so I don't know. But he wrote

476
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Speaker 2: he said quote you know, translated from Spanish. The better

477
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: I play, the more I go down in rankings. So

478
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Speaker 2: I don't know what more I can do.

479
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look sure, I mean there's some truth

480
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 1: to that. He just had the most like one of

481
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Speaker 1: the most dominant offensive months we've ever seen, Like he

482
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: sort of did a Kobe month here in marches. I

483
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 1: mean not even sort of, he basically did. I'm talking

484
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: about Luca here. The problem is, yeah, SGA consistent all

485
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Speaker 1: season long and the number one seed in the West

486
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Speaker 1: in a loaded West Wemby. You know, we're like Wemby.

487
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 1: We're at the point like, well, he's winning MVPs. It's

488
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: just how quickly are we going to get there? And

489
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: then you take in the defensive side of things and

490
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Speaker 1: how much of importance is that to you and your

491
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Speaker 1: MVP vote? And then yeah, then Yokich is still Hey

492
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 1: what about me? I'm leading the league in rebounds and

493
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,479
Speaker 1: assists and my team is still good and they're bad

494
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: when I'm off, And look, this is a fun race.

495
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: Prefer this then one guy just running away with it now,

496
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: the sports books, the fan duels of the world, they

497
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Speaker 1: have it more as a two person race.

498
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Speaker 2: Now.

499
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Speaker 1: I feel like Sga is still a favorite Wemby right there,

500
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Speaker 1: and then it's a drop off to Luca, who I

501
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Speaker 1: believe is in third, and then a drop off even

502
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Speaker 1: more to Yokich and then the super drop off to

503
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Speaker 1: whoever you put in fifth. A lot of people sort

504
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 1: of leaning towards Jell and Brown, with Kate Cunningham maybe

505
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: going to be coming up short here with the games

506
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 1: played threshold, but like you can just you can like

507
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Speaker 1: realistically make a fair case for any of those first

508
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: four guys really definitely, and that's okay, and you don't

509
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: like you can like it's just so funny. Then people

510
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: want to crap on other guys, these other MVP candidates,

511
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: But this is like one of the better ones we've seen.

512
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 1: Like you got to go back to like the Jordans

513
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: and Birds and like and magics, like all competing. We're like, yeah,

514
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: they're all awesome, and then you're just like, what's more

515
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: important to you? I guess seeding, the defense, the consistency,

516
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Speaker 1: you know whatever, Right, yep, So, uh, it's awesome, but

517
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Speaker 1: I'm with you guys in terms of the one, two, three. No, actually,

518
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Speaker 1: you guys said Yokic third. You said, yeah, I think

519
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Speaker 1: I'm more in line with the books there where I'm

520
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Speaker 1: going to go Sga, Wemb, Luca and then Jokic, which

521
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Speaker 1: is which.

522
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Speaker 2: Is wild the books. That makes sense that the books

523
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Speaker 2: have Luca in third right now over Yokic because there's

524
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Speaker 2: more people riding with at this time because of you know,

525
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 2: Jokic is injury and all that. We all so got

526
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 2: a question from Tim Bond TEPS about the top three

527
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 2: in the Rookie of the Year race do we want

528
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Speaker 2: to reveal because I haven't.

529
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Speaker 1: I haven't even texted him back yet.

530
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Speaker 2: So I thought that was an important part. I think

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Speaker 2: for me my perception of trait. What do you think?

532
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 2: Because is it? Is it?

533
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Speaker 3: Cooper is definitely the Rookie of the Year right now?

534
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Speaker 3: Con Cooper VJ That's.

535
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Speaker 1: How I voted.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was pretty easy. Same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did you send that in the same text or

538
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Speaker 1: a separate text?

539
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: The same text?

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Speaker 3: Wow, fantastic, And I answered the question about Kate Cunningham

541
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Speaker 3: in the same text. Yeah, why would you send more

542
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: than one? Because Dave Grisham does well, that's exactly right.

543
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 3: That's the kind of person that would send more than

544
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Speaker 3: one text.

545
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: He sends every word in a text.

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Speaker 3: You answered the three questions that we're sent in one

547
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Speaker 3: text via one text, and then you get to have

548
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Speaker 3: a conversation. Everybody's ready for the playoffs to start. That

549
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 3: was the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, we're really pulling back the curtain here on this.

551
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: I love it. It's a fun race. Let's hear how

552
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: you'd be voting out there. We don't have an official vote.

553
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: By the way, this is the tim Bontems ESPN draw

554
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 1: pole votaries, taking the temperature of a large swath of

555
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Speaker 1: the media, the people's MVP. That's right. Let's talk about

556
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: a few other games. I'm gonna lump them together here.

557
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: Hawks CCA surged past the Celtics one twelve, one oh two.

558
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: They're thirteenth straight home win here in the fortress. It

559
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 1: really is a fortress now. And then we had the

560
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Speaker 1: heat rallying late, using a fourteen oh run in the

561
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Speaker 1: final moments to pull away and beat the seventy six ers.

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Speaker 1: We'll show you the East standings and why we're putting

563
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Speaker 1: these two games together here, But which one did you

564
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Speaker 1: want to start with.

565
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Speaker 2: Well, we can start with that streak in Atlanta real quick.

566
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Speaker 2: It was tied at halftime. But I thought the Hawks

567
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: did a good job of getting their revenge on the

568
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Speaker 2: Celtics who beat them on Friday night. They were going

569
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Speaker 2: at Boston a little harder than Boston was going at them.

570
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Speaker 2: I think that was part of it. Boston coming off

571
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Speaker 2: back to back and the Hawks, yeah, really just giving

572
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Speaker 2: it to them. Fast break points seventeen to six the

573
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 2: third quarter indicated that how hard they were going, twenty

574
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: four buckets in the paint overall versus fifteen for Boston,

575
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: doing a good job of getting it in tight. Dison

576
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:08,719
Speaker 2: Daniels also splash two threes, but also the dinker and dumper, Dison, McDaniels, Dison, McDaniels,

577
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Speaker 2: Dice and Daniels. I was able to just score inside

578
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: doing a great job. So I thought that was a

579
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Speaker 2: team effort, and you know, maybe you don't get the

580
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: best Celtics Notatum, that's part of it. But also on

581
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: a back to back and a fresher Jalen Brown coming

582
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: off two games, So there's that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Hawks actually defend the Celtics pretty well because CJ.

584
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: McCollum is small, Gabe Vincent is small, but he gives

585
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: a great effort and there's a place for either of

586
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: those guys to hide. Everybody else from two through five

587
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: is you know, kind of same sized, really physical defenders.

588
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: The Celtics are a very low turnover team in general,

589
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: They're like twelve a game and the Hawks are getting

590
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen off them, which doesn't sound like a ton,

591
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: but for a team that usually takes care of the ball,

592
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: that really is able to juice the transition attack for

593
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Speaker 1: the Hawks.

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Speaker 3: So I'm pretty impressed with the Hawks. This to me

595
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 3: was one of their best wins they've got. They've beat

596
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Speaker 3: a lot of bad teams during this thirteen game home

597
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 3: win streak, but they're beating some good teams as well,

598
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: and getting the win over the Celtics is big. I

599
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: thought a cong Wu shooting threes was huge. The Celtics

600
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 3: were kind of over helping off of him. But then

601
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: they also had this action that Atlanta would run. He'd

602
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 3: setting a screen out on the wing for a curl.

603
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: That's getting a guy wide open diving down the hoop.

604
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: There's no defense there with Cada out. Kind of a

605
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 3: run to the rim with Garza, but a lot of confusion,

606
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: so Congu steps out hit some threes. The dude's on

607
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 3: fire this year thirty eight percent, career thirty three percent.

608
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 3: But it looks like he's found it shooting it confidently.

609
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 3: Crazy that Dyson Daniels hit two threes. He's hit two

610
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: threes in three of his last five games, only three

611
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 3: times all season. Crazy, he's feeling it right now. But

612
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 3: it is the floater that is the weapon for Dyson Daniels.

613
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: They figured out you're basically a small ball four, so

614
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: shoot wide open threes and shoot dinkers and dumpers, pass

615
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: it out in these short role opportunities. Pretty impressive for

616
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Speaker 3: the Hawks. Thirteen and two in March, their best month

617
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: since an undefeated seventeen and zero back in GA were

618
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 3: at twenty fifteen. But did you know that the College

619
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: Park Skyhawks went seven to two in March?

620
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Speaker 1: Did they really?

621
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Speaker 3: What a great month for this entire franchise.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that because they had a pretty bad

623
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Speaker 1: season overall.

624
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: They did, but they finished strong.

625
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, finished with a win as well. Ever, since we

626
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 1: showed up exactly right and they turned it on pretty much.

627
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: And the Atlantahawks are always good against the Celtics in March.

628
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: That's when they beat them. Remember a couple of years

629
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 2: ago they beat them in almost back to back games

630
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: in March.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, de Jontae Murray had like forty one on forty

632
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 3: shots or something like that.

633
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: I was there. It was awesome. We thought, Okay, can

634
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: these Hawks play these Celtics in the playoffs. They play

635
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: him pretty well. They took them to a six game

636
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: series the season before when they the Celtics. Eventually, oh

637
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: that was I was going to say they won the

638
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: championship that year, but that was the year after. Either way,

639
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: they played them well in March. They do play them well.

640
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: They match up well.

641
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: Playing the I mean, take away the guards and you

642
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: got a chance to beat the Celtics. And they did that.

643
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: Like I mean, sure, there's like some misshots, but you

644
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: want to see a box sport with Jillen Brown has

645
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 1: twenty nine points, but twenty nine shots and a lot

646
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: of them at the pre throw line. Derek White, who's

647
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: been you know, cooking three to twelve, and then Peyton

648
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Speaker 1: Pritchard even six or fourteen off the bench. So yeah,

649
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Speaker 1: great effort there from the Hawks. Defensively, man, that we've

650
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: been saying this for like a decade. If the hawkn

651
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: just play some good defense, like sound defense, above average defense,

652
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: they are a good team. They just hadn't been able

653
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: to do it for the longest time. No part of

654
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: that's like having Trey Young out there, for sure, but

655
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: him gone changes things and everybody is clicking right now.

656
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: This team is as they try and continue to go

657
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: up the standings. We can talk about the Heat game

658
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: here too. We'll show the standings JD because where they

659
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: stand right now, it's the Raptors still in fifth. They're

660
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: forty two and thirty two, but the Hawks, you know,

661
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: basically tied with them. Raps have the advantage in the tiebreaker.

662
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: Hawks have one more win, but more games played for

663
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Speaker 1: them than Philly and seventh, Magic eighth, Heat ninth as

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Speaker 1: they move up above the Hornets after that big win.

665
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Speaker 1: And so let's talk about that Tyler Herroll coming through

666
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: in the clutch, not offensively task, this guy was making

667
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: defensive plays.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was really really good. I thought the Sixers

669
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Speaker 2: coach Nick Nurse made one mistake that hurt them when

670
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Speaker 2: Tyler Herro was going off for those back to back threes,

671
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 2: and they went on that ten oh run immediately, and

672
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: it turned into an even bigger run because he called

673
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 2: a challenge four minutes left, Joel Embiid had this offensive

674
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: screen call and they challenged that, and after that, he

675
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: only had one time out left, and the Sixer scored.

676
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: They're up four after it, but then the heat started

677
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: going on their run. It was that put back from Bam.

678
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: Then Hero hit a three, so they're already up one

679
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: and the Sixers Nick Nurse didn't have a time out.

680
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: They had one time out, but they want to save

681
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Speaker 2: it for the absolute end of the game here. So

682
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: it turned into back to back threes for Hero and

683
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: then a Yak Yakis I'm reading Haimi Hawkis and I

684
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: want to read it like Yakis for some reason, a

685
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: ten oh run, and so they're up six with a

686
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: minute thirty left, and that's when Nick Nurse says, all right,

687
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: we'll freaking use it, even though I do want to

688
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: save it. And that hurt them, But what also hurt

689
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: them was Tyler hero balling. Yeah, they finished the game extremely,

690
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: extremely well, but that also was a great game to

691
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: go right down to the buzz or the heat showing

692
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: up and I said that left he finished from Tyler,

693
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: who was beautiful, but lots of great stuff in this game.

694
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: He had Coach Lowry of the sixers from the bench

695
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: given in Tyrese Maxey hitting deep three late. Really good game.

696
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fun game of runs for sure, and

697
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: the Heat had the best run right at the end,

698
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: just hero cooking the drop over and over. Yeah, I

699
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: thought this is maybe not going on the Joel Embiid

700
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: highlight tape. Definitely not going on the Nick Nurse highlight tape.

701
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: Embiid was like killing the Heat zone for five minutes straight,

702
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: just catching the ball in the middle and shooting over

703
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: the top. That's like Joel Embid's sweet spot right at

704
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 3: the free throw line. And then Nick Nurse is like, hey,

705
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: actually go stand outside. We're gonna do five out and

706
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: we're gonna.

707
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Speaker 1: Put vj Edgecum in the middle.

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00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: Didn't make any sort of sense to do that. I

709
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: also thought that the Heat did a really good job

710
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 3: of making Embiid move cousin. Beid looks totally back on

711
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: the offensive end. Only he's gonna get thirty points almost

712
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: every single night. Look, I know what you're thinking. He

713
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 3: made a great block against the Charlotte Hornets in part.

714
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, he hustled too.

715
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: He is too slow on defense. If he has to

716
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: turn twice, you're gonna score at the rim. Sixty points

717
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: in the paint for Miami last night. They were doing

718
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: a great job of getting Embiid to help and then

719
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 3: somebody just cutting right behind for an easy layup. I

720
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: thought it was well played by the Heat. They needed

721
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: this win. If they lose this one, they're basically dropping

722
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: to ten. Yeah, gonna be tough for them to rise. Meanwhile,

723
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: the Sixers really needed this as well. If they win

724
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 3: this one, they're kind of locked in at seventh at

725
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: the worst with a chance to rise. So credit to

726
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: the Heat for coming through in the clutch. I thought

727
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: Hero was awesome. He was great, He was yeah, and.

728
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: They were like they were like obviously it's been their

729
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: game plan all season. But it's like run, run, run, run,

730
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: especially against a Philly team with Embiid, Paul George, some

731
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Speaker 1: older guys. They had thirty fast break points to like

732
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: ten or eleven to the Sixers. That was a huge

733
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Speaker 1: part of this game, especially in.

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Speaker 2: The fourth quarter. They had to redeem themselves. They've been

735
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: struggling recently. So they absolutely fought till the last buzzer.

736
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Speaker 2: It is going to be a struggle watching him be

737
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: played defense for forty minutes per game. If he's going

738
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Speaker 2: to play that much. Yes, he comes through. Not only

739
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: gets the sew horts in this one. With four minutes left,

740
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: he gave the ball away on the offensive end and

741
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: sprinted back to have a mean goaltend on Andrew Wiggins

742
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: fell not out of him as they went was a Wiggins?

743
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: It was? They went down. Yeah, they went down to Yeah,

744
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: they went down to the floor hard. He's good for

745
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: a sprint every few minutes. He can't do it every possession,

746
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: and that's the worrisome part. Adam Bona was really good

747
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: coming off the bench to definitely take those minutes that

748
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: Embid has to sit. There's going to be those minutes,

749
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: so they go hard. I still think it'll be a

750
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: fantastic series. Whoever they play in the first round. The

751
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: question is, you know the second round, will Embiid still

752
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: be balling? But Maxi's also look good in this game.

753
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: But they're one up by the Heat, who again they

754
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: needed to win.

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Speaker 1: Any other thoughts on any of last night's games. The

756
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: Cavs beat and the Jazz. Yeah, the Sun's booker was

757
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: awesome and you win there. But we had a lot

758
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 1: of other games where we had a good team versus

759
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: the bad team and for the most part, took care

760
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 1: of business. Yeah, okay, Well let's get to the news then,

761
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: from yesterday. The Chicago Bulls have cut guard Jaden Ivy

762
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: for conduct detrimental to the team, following an Instagram live

763
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: stream from his account in which he criticized the NBA

764
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: support of the LGBTQ community and spouted missives about unrighteousness.

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Speaker 1: I guess Ivy went live again yesterday following the news.

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00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: Sort of tough to keep track how many times this

767
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: guy is going live right all the time?

768
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And he said the Bulls I basically called them liars

771
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: h for this conduct detrimental to the team. This is

772
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: obviously your squad here and played when he played four

773
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: games for the Sruggle Bulls and is injured now and

774
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: was out and now he's just been cut here.

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00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, barely played for the Bulls. Didn't look great when

776
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: he did play. And you know, I kind of hinted

777
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: at this about a month ago. Every interview that he's

778
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Speaker 3: given since coming to Chicago. It has seemed like his

779
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: full focus is not on basketball. I said, I thought

780
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: it maybe he would retire at the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: Just because you did say this.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like he is giving his full focus

783
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 3: to basketball. And I think, like you see, this disappointing

784
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 3: stuff that's coming out was kind of just the last

785
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 3: thing that happened. Where you're not doing anything on the court,

786
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 3: there's no reason for us to keep you around as

787
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 3: you're going to be offending people up and down the organization.

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Speaker 3: And that's basically what Billy Donovan said. He's like, we

789
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: have standards and you have to meet him. There's a

790
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: lot of people from a lot of different walks of

791
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: life that are here working for the balls in different capacities.

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00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, if he's averaging twenty five a game.

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Speaker 1: Is it different?

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00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 3: Probably it probably is, unfortunately, so, but uh he's not.

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00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 3: And what he said was pretty offensive to a lot

796
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 3: of people. And so see you later, Buddy.

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00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: Right, if he was at the top of the rotation

798
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: and playing a lot, it is unfortunate. But the scuggle

799
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: Buls definitely would perceive this as different. But these headaches

800
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: are not worth it for a guy who's at the

801
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: end of the rotation and not playing all that much.

802
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: And as you said, since he was traded in February,

803
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 2: immediately after he got a d NP, he was interviewed

804
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: by a reporter and he said, the old Ji is dead.

805
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: It's not I'm not the same player I used to be.

806
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 2: I'm not the Ji I used to be. The old

807
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: Ji is dead. So those statements and the Instagram lives

808
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 2: posts that have been not they're not few and far between.

809
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: The coming there was multiple over three or four days,

810
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: and I was, I was before he was released yesterday evening,

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00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: I was, I saw everything going around on Twitter, and

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00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 2: I was sitting I was watching my kids in the

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00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: swimming pool, and I had that that Instagram post up

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00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: to my ear. So I was doing both at the

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00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 2: same time, and I was. I was trying to take

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00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: in everything that Jay and Ivy has said over the

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00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 2: last few days. And he definitely ruffled some other feathers

818
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: in terms of religion and people who were following him

819
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: over the last three or four days. But this one

820
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: was a whole other level, and the bulls just didn't

821
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: want to deal with it. I mean, it's it's as

822
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: simple as that. And they weren't about to go and

823
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 2: deal with Jade and Ivy the person, in part because

824
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: he is at the end of the rotation, in part

825
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 2: because maybe they just don't do that. But there's there's

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00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: both of those things I think are true in this situation.

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Speaker 1: Ivy has mentioned previously that he has struggled with issues

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00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: of or related to mental health and substance abuse. I

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00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: know in one of the IG Live sessions, I guess

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00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: he was talking about his addictions to alcohol, his addictions

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Speaker 1: to pornography. He mentioned childhood trauma. I think he even

832
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: mentioned it's sort of I don't you know in the

833
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: context was weird, but talking about his abuse to his

834
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: own wife and.

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Speaker 2: Her sticking with them, and it was like that was

836
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: a podcast that he went on, yeah, last year in

837
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: I think it was The Off Sea. It was twenty

838
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 2: twenty five. I forget what the name of it is,

839
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: Sports Spectrum something something to that effect or yes, sexually

840
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: busy Kid called himself an abuser with his own wife,

841
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: pornography addiction. And this is all from after his injury

842
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: when Cole Anthony took out his leg on January first,

843
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. And it seems like since then, he

844
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: hasn't been the same player and things have escalated online.

845
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: And he's crashing out here online. This like it immediately

846
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: takes me back to the Steph on Marbary days sure

847
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: when Marbarie was doing these live streams from his house

848
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: and it's like it's chaotic and it seems like a

849
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: person that's sort of almost crying out for help and

850
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: doesn't know what like it has. He thinks he has

851
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: the idea, but I think needs some support, so hopefully's

852
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: trying to get this or people he trusts are reaching out,

853
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: like the other one where he was on a plane

854
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: last yesterday, I guess it was a multiple times yes,

855
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: and people kept saying like it kept getting like muted,

856
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 1: and I think that happens when people are like actually

857
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: trying to call you during said things. So maybe friends, family,

858
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: whoever are like trying to reach out, like hey, man,

859
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: like you know, how can I help you? Whatever. But

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00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 1: the NBA has not commented, by the way, on Ivy's

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00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: comments or his release. This was the bulls. I think

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895
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Speaker 2: I hadn't seen Boozer's postgame interview until yesterday, and at

901
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,720
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00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,840
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00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,120
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904
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Speaker 2: It was sad.

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00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 3: He's like, that might be the last time me and

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00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,280
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Speaker 1: They do they do all right, let's get into the

909
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Speaker 1: anti tanking proposals. Last week, Commissioner Adam Silver said at

910
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: a press conference that the NBA needs to quote do

911
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: something more extreme to address tanking than the lottery reforms

912
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: it has implemented in the past.

913
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: Well.

914
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Speaker 1: According to ESPN, choms here and a couple other notable

915
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: news organizations, the League presented three anti tanking concepts to

916
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: its Board of Governors last week, with some modifications expected

917
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: to each of these proposals before a formal vote in May.

918
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: So this is the soft launch for these propos at

919
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: least to us and to everyone that follows this stuff.

920
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: So let's break them down and we can discuss the

921
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: pros and cons of each proposal, or you guys can

922
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, that's a ten out of ten, or

923
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: what that's stupid, that fixes nothing. We'll make our way

924
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: through these, and just for the sake of the listener

925
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: and everyone joining us here, because some people sort of

926
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: tune this stuff out, I'll explain them to the best

927
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: of my abilities. Each plan. So Plan one, call it

928
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: the flattened odds for teams with the ten worst records.

929
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: So the lottery extends to include the four play in

930
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: tournament loser, So eighteen total teams, the bottom ten teams,

931
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: they would all get the same odds eight percent, the

932
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 1: suite eight percent, and then teams eleven through eighteen would

933
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: also have the same odds, but much lower at two

934
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: and a half percent. Your thoughts on option one Plan

935
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: one Proposal one to fix tanking?

936
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't decide whether or not the ten worst

937
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: teams in the league would stop losing on purpose if

938
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: they were able to get eight percent of the chances

939
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 2: at getting number one. But I do think it really

940
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: doesn't do a lot because you can see, you know,

941
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: from the past few years, even the team with the

942
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: worst record doesn't get the number one pick. You just

943
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: got to be bad. The team with the worst record

944
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 2: hasn't got the number one pick since twenty eighteen, so

945
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: you just really have to be bad. So I think

946
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 2: this will encourage teams just to continue to be bad.

947
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: I don't think it really alters all that much. You know,

948
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: eight and eight percent chance is a high chance to

949
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: get the number one high.

950
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 3: Well, that's the equivalent of like the seventh best odds currently.

951
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 2: Right, but it's yeah to equal it, to flatten it

952
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 2: out between one through ten means you can just be bad.

953
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 2: You can just be bad, be one of the worst

954
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: ten teams in the league. I understand that. Yeah, I

955
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: guess you're not as motivated to get the three worst odds,

956
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: right the fourteen and a half percent.

957
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: The hope would be these bad teams, these the worst

958
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: ten teams. As we get into the later part of

959
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: the seasons, there is no reason to try and out

960
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: tank each other, try and sit said guy, try and

961
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: not win game, because it doesn't matter. You're bad. You

962
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: got an eight percent chance. H that's the that's the plan.

963
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: But the teams are still bad in the bottom ten

964
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: and are still able to get the number one pick.

965
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: So I don't know how much it really changes anything

966
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: because that's been happening year after year after year.

967
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: Would teams try to avoid the playoffs to have a

968
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: two point five percent chance of winning the lottery? Is

969
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: what I get into here, Like what that's like? Not

970
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: a lot at all now, But it would give you

971
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Speaker 1: a chance, So I don't I don't think teams would personally,

972
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: But anyway, your thoughts on this.

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Speaker 3: One, I mean, it gives you a two point five

974
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 3: percent chances, like in between tenth and elevens. We saw

975
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: the Mavericks tank out of the playoffs to do just that,

976
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: get a roll of the dice, and they end up

977
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 3: getting Derek Lively because they kept their pick. I think

978
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: this is planned number one, because this is clearly the

979
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: best plan to your point task. Like, the thing is

980
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: that these are trying to incentivize not losing as much

981
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: rather than actually trying to incentivize winning. But since they

982
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 3: don't want to do the Gold plan, apparently there's nothing

983
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,479
Speaker 3: to incentivize winning. So this to me is pretty good.

984
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: Like all things considered, an eight percent chance is not

985
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 3: that alluring. It makes teams like twenty eight win bad.

986
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 3: Nobody's offended by a twenty eight win team. It's the

987
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: sixteen win teams where they're sitting their guys to try

988
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 3: and make sure that they don't get to twenty wins.

989
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: That's really what Adam Silver is trying to accomplish here.

990
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 3: So I think of the three we'll talk about, this

991
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: one's the best. But if I'm a small market, I'm like,

992
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 3: no way, I'm voting for this. An eight percent chance

993
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 3: to get a player who actually.

994
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: Matters versus a current fourteen and a half. If you're

995
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: the worst of the worst. Listen, any of these are

996
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: not going to eliminate tanking entirely because of the power

997
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: of one player to entirely transform your organization. But I

998
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: understand maybe maybe become a twenty one win team instead

999
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: of an eighteen win team.

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00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. In all of these proposals, which again we'll go

1001
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: through the other two, bad teams are still gonna have

1002
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: a better chance of winning the lottery than good teams,

1003
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: which sort of should be the point. I do believe that.

1004
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: But the point here is to give teams just less

1005
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: incentive to be outright terrible when we get into which

1006
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: is now getting earlier and earlier, February, March, and April.

1007
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: That's what they're trying to put That.

1008
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 2: Is definitely the worst time of the year. The other

1009
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 2: parts going into at least the All Star Game, and

1010
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,479
Speaker 2: then late februarys it does normal basketball, the sixty games. Yeah,

1011
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: they play normal basketball.

1012
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I'm with you, TK, I think this is

1013
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: like my prefer of the three. Maybe that's why it

1014
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: is planed one. Also, it's just the easiest for people

1015
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: to understand, as you're about to find out, because the

1016
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: other two are a little more convoluted in terms of

1017
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: what's going on. Yeah, oh, this one's the easiest.

1018
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: You got to it's easy to understand. But I know,

1019
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 2: but a lot of people don't even know what the

1020
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: current one is. Okay, either way, I don't think it

1021
00:46:59,000 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: really matters.

1022
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: I could almost argue this one's even easier to understand

1023
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: than the current one. It's like, okay, top ten worst

1024
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: teams eight percent chance everybody else from eleven through the

1025
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: play in teams. Yeah you got two and a half percent. Yes, sure,

1026
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: all right, next one plan two wind floor and a

1027
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: WNBA like two year aggregation. Okay, so the lottery extends

1028
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: through losers of the first round of the playoffs. We're

1029
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: including those teams here, twenty two total teams. But the

1030
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: lottery odds are ranked by records over the last two seasons.

1031
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: That's something that the WNBA does. There's a mandatory minimum though,

1032
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: for wins each season. So for example, if the mandatory

1033
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: minimum is whatever, twenty wins, if you won sixteen games, no,

1034
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: you basically won twenty, we bump you up in this

1035
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: scenario when we do the aggregation. Your thoughts on this one.

1036
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: I like the win floor, Okay, I think that's a

1037
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 3: good part of it, and whether it means adding wins

1038
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 3: or like, if you don't hit minimum threshold, you finished

1039
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: with sixteen wins, guess what you're picking fifth. That's the

1040
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: highest you can absolutely pick. I like that, but I

1041
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 3: just don't understand how does the two year aggregation not

1042
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 3: just lead to teams intentionally being bad for two years?

1043
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear what you're saying, but I think it

1044
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: means less people come into your arena if you know,

1045
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: if they know you're you're gonna stink for multiple years.

1046
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 2: It just your perception of fans if it goes down

1047
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: because you're just not going to be good for several

1048
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 2: years as opposed to now, which is a one year

1049
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: tank Wemby's ours or that kind of.

1050
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if this plan is more to curb

1051
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: the Pacers with the Halliburn injury or like you said, yeah,

1052
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: like a good team having a down year because of

1053
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: injuries or whatever and then they get it. Yeah, so

1054
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: maybe it does cover your ass there.

1055
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: With the the gap year no longer would exist, right right,

1056
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 2: I mean you'd have to be bad in a second year.

1057
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 2: It would just have to happen. But that does happen

1058
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 2: with teams, the Brooklyn Nets, the Washington Wizards, teams who

1059
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: are just young and bad.

1060
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: I think this plan, though, would be dependent on what

1061
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: the wind floor is. I think it's of importance here

1062
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: because even in this very extreme tanking season, we're gonna

1063
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: have like four teams in danger of not getting to

1064
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: twenty wins. Yeah, so I believe this was CBS Sports

1065
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly. Since twenty thirteen fourteen, twenty teams

1066
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: have finished under twenty wins. That includes two pandemic shortened seasons,

1067
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: so only twenty teams under twenty wins. But over the

1068
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 1: same span, fifty two teams have finished under twenty five wins.

1069
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: So I think maybe twenty five is more of like

1070
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: a sort of a minimum sort of baseline there. But yeah,

1071
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: it's interesting this two year aggregate. I think you guys

1072
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: have nailed it here, or we're talking it through. It's

1073
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: like to prevent the good team bad injury. Holy crap,

1074
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: they're getting another higher first round pick. Let's try and

1075
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: take that out of the equation. Any other thoughts on

1076
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: plan too there on the wind floor, like saying wind floor,

1077
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: wind floor is a good all right, Well, let's go

1078
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: to plan three then you like lotteries. What if I

1079
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: told you I'd give you two of them the pit

1080
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: my ride. Yeah, plan, that's exactly what Zach Carper said.

1081
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: Two lotteries, and uh there's like this five by five method.

1082
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: People are saying, I'll explain this one because it's you know,

1083
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: a lot more detailed. So the lottery extends to include

1084
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: the four playing tournament teams just like the losers, I

1085
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: should say, Uh so eighteen total teams instead of fourteen.

1086
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 1: First lottery for the top five picks, with the worst

1087
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: five teams all having the same odds. Then after that

1088
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: there's a second lottery for picks six through eighteen. But

1089
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: if a bottom five team misses out on the first

1090
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: five picks, it would know it would pick no worse

1091
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: than tenth. Okay, okay, yeah, so.

1092
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: It's sort of two lotteries here, so simple. Your thoughts

1093
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: on this one too convoluted, And it's not all that

1094
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 2: beneficial for teams with the perception that they could I mean,

1095
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: that's the whole point. You don't have to lose. You

1096
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: don't want them to lose, so they don't lose, how

1097
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 2: but their perception will be yeah, we could drop down

1098
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: to ten even if we have the worst record.

1099
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, but don't We also go from I

1100
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: guess teams tanking right now for one of the top

1101
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: three spots to five teams potentially tanking for one of

1102
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: these top five spots. You want to be in the

1103
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: drawing the first ting, Yeah, yeah, because you're going to

1104
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: have a.

1105
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: Twenty percent chance, that's true.

1106
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: So that's that part strange to me. I don't know

1107
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: if this one. Yeah.

1108
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 3: The simple part about it is that if you have

1109
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 3: two bad draws, you draft tenth, then you have the

1110
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 3: worst record. So there's no way teams will.

1111
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: Vote for this, right right, Yeah, that's not a good motivator.

1112
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: No, yeah, okay, So it sounds like you you like

1113
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: like number three.

1114
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 2: I think I like number two.

1115
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: Number two.

1116
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 2: I think the fact that you don't have teams saying, oh,

1117
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: got to be bad this one year and we can

1118
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: go get the number one pick. That encourages a lot

1119
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 2: of just trying to be good. So I think that's

1120
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 2: part of it. You'd have to tell again sell to

1121
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: your fans without selling it to them, but being bad

1122
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: for two years and that hurts, And that's I think

1123
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: that's just above people's or organizations drive to get things

1124
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: to actually get threshold. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, this is a

1125
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: little bit beyond that.

1126
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: I think TK you were more of a Plan one.

1127
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: I would be a Plan one guy. Yeah.

1128
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 3: I just don't think that, like being in the bottom

1129
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 3: ten is fine. Like ten is a pretty big number

1130
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 3: for the league. We got ten teams that are tanking

1131
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 3: right now. But what if they were actually fine with

1132
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 3: winning twenty five games rather than trying to win under twenty.

1133
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit better, but still not

1134
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 3: great for small markets. But I think that you know,

1135
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 3: eight percent is not You're not throwing away multiple seasons

1136
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 3: for an eight percent.

1137
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: Surge, right and Silver I think did say this part best.

1138
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: He said it's become almost impossible to distinguish between a

1139
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: tank and a rebuilt, and I think there's some truth

1140
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: to that in some of these cases. Now we know

1141
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 1: what tanking looks like. We've seen a lot of blatant

1142
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: tanking this year, and this is what he wants to

1143
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: get rid of for sure, because headlines, because it's not

1144
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: a good product, it's not a good look. They are

1145
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 1: playing a game where the whole point is to try

1146
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: and win, but you've set this whole thing up to

1147
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: incentivize these teams to lose, because it's like the best

1148
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: way to get good again is to hit one of

1149
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: these high draft picks and obviously hitch your ride to

1150
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: a star player under a great rookie contract for four

1151
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: to seven years, basically seven years because the amount of

1152
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 1: money they're allowed. So you know, you made this bed

1153
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: and now you're really out of lying it. So he's

1154
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: trying to fix it. I get that, but I'm sort

1155
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: of I like playing one the most. I mean, other

1156
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: people are just like, you want to go extreme, you

1157
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: do the whole draft lottery wheel thing, or you completely

1158
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: so that then it's like there is no incentive. It's

1159
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: just like you may not win the lottery ever ever,

1160
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: twenty years run, and even if you're a bad team,

1161
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: it's like tough luck. Figure it out, get more creative.

1162
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: But that's extreme, that's extreme. That whole wheel? Whose wheel

1163
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: is that? Again? I always forget? Is that zerancel? But

1164
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: they're not going that extreme, it seems like because I

1165
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: think Silver also realizes, yeah, if a bad team is

1166
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: obviously bad for a couple of years, here, like the

1167
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: only thing you have with an organization is hope, and

1168
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: that comes through these these draft picks, these young kids,

1169
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: especially small market teams, to get back in the mix.

1170
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 1: They can't take it away completely.

1171
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, or there's the relegation move that's never going to happen.

1172
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: Just draw where are we relegating them to?

1173
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's but Adam. Adam loves soccer and so he

1174
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: could be emulating that. But where do they go? I

1175
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: know the G League is become a better feeder for

1176
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: the NBA. But if you're telling owners that you're going

1177
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: to lose X amount of money because you're now in

1178
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: a different league and no one's going to be watching you,

1179
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 2: that ain't gonna happen in North American sports. I don't

1180
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 2: know how it works.

1181
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 3: I got to drop the Pacers and bring up the

1182
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 3: Windy City Balls.

1183
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: No, that don't make sense now. Now, I mean, we

1184
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: obviously have this NBA euro League coming. It might be merging.

1185
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 1: Now it sounds like potentially.

1186
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a league. Your people set up a euro

1187
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 2: League NBA combination in Europe.

1188
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: So could we ever get to the to the I

1189
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: don't know the future, here to the the year? Where

1190
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: see you later? Utah Jazz, you're route you got to

1191
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: move to Europe? Yeah, exactly, here comes team from Madrid

1192
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: or something. Probably not you're an NBA team, probably not,

1193
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: but fun to think about. Let's hear your favorite other proposal.

1194
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: Think your favorite proposal of these three or do you

1195
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: think they're not extreme enough? Let us know, as you

1196
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: are here in the stream, team well but Well of

1197
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 1: the night sponsored by no One? Huh, I go away

1198
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: for a couple of days and sponsorships try right up?

1199
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: Hate to see it? You want to sponsor? Will boy

1200
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: get in touch with us? Wemby though, gets it? What

1201
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 1: a game season? I had forty one points, sixteen boards,

1202
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: four assists, three blocks, had to steal thirty one minutes played.

1203
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: I can't stop thinking about what you said TK, not

1204
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: that long ago. Like, we're close to the playoffs here.

1205
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: This guy's gonna be playing in theory forty minutes I

1206
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: mean whatever, thirty six to forty minutes, probably in a

1207
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 1: playoff game.

1208
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 2: The question is, Candy, I think you can well, I

1209
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: got confidence in him. I obviously have a lot of

1210
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: confidence in him. I think there's a reason it's a

1211
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 2: physical game. There's a reason that he has been playing

1212
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 2: only twenty nine minutes per game.

1213
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a part of it is hold on,

1214
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: let me kill this buck? Got it? Come on? That

1215
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 1: was pretty nice. Yeah, I don't even.

1216
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 2: Know what that looked like a piece of dust after

1217
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: a while.

1218
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you think you're better than Wenby killing a flying animal,

1219
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 3: flying creature creature?

1220
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I don't think Wemby would kill insects because I.

1221
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: Just think his long limbs make it more difficult for

1222
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: him to have the the quick quickness that I have.

1223
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: You know, like a damn cat I killed b earlier

1224
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: in here too, you know, a one with nature. Right now,

1225
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: I come back and just kill a beer in the

1226
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: classic factory. What are we talking about?

1227
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 3: Wemby playing four minutes?

1228
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's going up. The part of this

1229
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: is like, you know, save them too, like keep them

1230
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: as fresh as possible. Now, now, does it hurt his

1231
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: MVP case? That's what some people think. You keep seeing

1232
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: that now, it's like what this guy right ranks like

1233
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: one hundredth in minutes played. What do you mean he's

1234
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: gonna win MVP compared to some of the other guys.

1235
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 3: But he was also in a minute's restriction when he

1236
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 3: came back from the calf, but artificially depresses it. But yeah,

1237
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 3: like you look at the games where he actually played

1238
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 3: thirty eight minutes and he's putting up ridiculous numbers and

1239
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 3: you're like, this guy would be the MVP if he

1240
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 3: played thirty eight minutes a night. But that's why it's exciting,

1241
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 3: that's why the playoffs are cool. Different game of basket ball.

1242
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: It's true.

1243
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 3: NCAA basketball different than NBA basketball. NBA regular season way

1244
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 3: different than NBA playoffs.

1245
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes.

1246
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 2: Mm hmmmmmm unleash, unleash the wimby. Let's see it.

1247
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: All right, pick them standings. We're not picking tonight because

1248
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: it's over for March. I took the Celtics. Last night,

1249
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: Trey took the Hawks. It was testy at the end,

1250
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: on fire.

1251
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 3: I know, follow this guy, I know, because he could not.

1252
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: Make a free throw. I know. I was like, come

1253
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: on to save me, jail in. I thought they were

1254
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: going to back door at for stress. I did too,

1255
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: a small part, a small party like this would be

1256
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: a great backdoor cover. But Hawks got it done. They

1257
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: covered in the end easily, and that means I finished

1258
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: that last because I needed that one. We would have

1259
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: been tied in with nine wins. But nope, task good

1260
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: month fourteen and seven, Trade ten and eleven, and then

1261
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: me eight and thirteen. So not the great greatest work

1262
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: from us, but I owe another payoff. Let's hear what

1263
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: I should do. We've had talk about me doing a

1264
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: puzzle and somebody added, somebody added in the stream. Team

1265
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: do a puzzle and you have to eat the remaining

1266
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: pieces that you don't finish with in the allotted time. Okay,

1267
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: We've had talk about painting, remember that. Yeah, so maybe

1268
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: I have to just paint a pain, a portrait or

1269
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: paint a picture all show long. I don't know. And

1270
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: then the other thought that was being kicked around is

1271
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: eat an onion like an apple. Eat an onion like

1272
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: an apple. Right, so that's fun, got some ideas. So

1273
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: anything else that's like.

1274
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 3: April showers themed April showers, bring May flowers.

1275
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a rainy day, I gotta stand out

1276
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: in the rain once. It's been a drought around here.

1277
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: Unfortunately it has been all My car is still covered

1278
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: in pollen.

1279
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 3: Man, cover yourself in pollen. Just that was like the

1280
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 3: stringy ones. Oh good, there's a lot of weird pollens

1281
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 3: out there. Yeah.

1282
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: The kids, my kids have a feel day today. Where

1283
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 2: they're in part ringing out a sponge. So you're going

1284
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 2: in a circle and you ring out a sponge on

1285
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 2: someone's head.

1286
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Speaker 1: Oh so that's fun.

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Speaker 2: That's not bad.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I guess it's warming to do that. I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine the water.

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Speaker 2: Is warm the Mac. Your computer won't like that if

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Speaker 2: you got a comp there. But we did have our

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Speaker 2: man purple scribble. He sponsored a Woe Boys segment last

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Speaker 2: week because they had the National Puzzle Competition happened this weekend.

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01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 2: He gave us a quick rundown.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how to go?

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Speaker 2: They got sixty second in the team competition, fifteen hundred

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Speaker 2: pieces in a blazing two hours, five minutes and eleven seconds.

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01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: Oh it took that long down to the second. Fifteen

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Speaker 2: hundred pieces, I mean wo yeah. Yeah. Also, Katie won

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Speaker 2: two puzzle chess matches. Yep, that's a thing, and they

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Speaker 2: got two new puzzles from it.

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Speaker 1: I guess they Oh, prizes are puzzles.

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01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 2: Wow, I guess. So yeah, you said if the Puzzle

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01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 2: Block Party had an NBA cop it would be okay.

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01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 2: See Thunder Lizzie is s G a m VP. The

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Speaker 2: team Katie is Jay Jalen Williams Maria's chet perennial all

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Speaker 2: stars with the versatility to tackle blue skies or white snowfall. Well,

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01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 2: this is this is involved and Josh is lou dort. Oh,

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01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 2: he's dirty, dirty.

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Speaker 1: Just goes around like hit with the edges of the

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Speaker 1: pieces of Apparently the edges are the dirty work.

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Speaker 2: Really well, that's that's what he said.

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Speaker 1: Give me the dirty work. Yeah, I guess I mean

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01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: not to me. I would call the dumb work the

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Speaker 1: easiest part for a bundle for.

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Speaker 2: Me, which makes our manper bowl scribble Isaiah Joe long

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01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 2: range sniper that scours the picture on the box to

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Speaker 2: find a single piece with great actress.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So if you do decide to go with the puzzle

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01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 2: as the pick and payoff reference, it takes me ninety

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Speaker 2: exhausting minutes to finish a three hundred piece puzzle.

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: Should I maybe have to do the puzzle all week?

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01:01:58,880 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: How much?

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Speaker 2: Hold on?

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01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: How much to do this? Co host the show with

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01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: you guys and like be putting together a puzzle. I

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01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna work. You're not the greatest audio players.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like, yeah, people scouting for you, right, maybe

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01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 3: not the best audio right on that one.

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Speaker 1: Nora is eating an onion for me.

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01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 3: But at least you're telling the bites are Chris Big Crunch.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, keep the suggestions coming. You know, I'd

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Speaker 1: like to get it over with sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 1: Are we doing a pick them for April? Short months

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Speaker 1: with the regular season? It's like, what I mean, we've

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Speaker 1: got two weeks left, two weeks? Yeah, why not? We'll

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01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: kick it up tomorrow right.

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Speaker 2: Here, coming up, Well, we'll be coming in on the show.

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Speaker 3: Have them pick. If they get it wrong, they got

1342
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 3: to eat something discussing April.

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Speaker 2: April is a weird month.

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Speaker 1: We'll figure it out, all right, but carry and raw

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01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: hot just to see how that made people.

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Speaker 3: You can get to eat a raw hot up. They're

1347
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 3: so good.

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01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: Oh I don't want to do it.

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01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still curdling thinking about you eating a raw

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01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 2: hot dog. I hate it, hate it.

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01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: You'll like this. I obviously just did the hiking trip

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Speaker 1: Great Smoky Mountains National Park. Unbelievable. Uh so one of

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Speaker 1: them we're gonna be doing all these long hikes. It

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Speaker 1: was my buddy Grish, Your buddy Grish, everybody's Buddy Grish,

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01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: and my buddy Dub we're doing these long hikes, so

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Speaker 1: it's like you got a pack of lunch, you got

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Speaker 1: pack something to eat. We're doing like fifteen mile hikes,

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01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: twenty mile hikes, so you know, the day before grocery shopping. Okay,

1359
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: let's make this efficient. Let's get in, let's get out,

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01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: you know, get the essentials. Paul says, he's making raps.

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Speaker 1: I'm making rap, all right. What do we need in

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01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: a rap? Maybe some tomato, maybe some cheese, some obviously,

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01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: some condiment of some sort, mayo, mustard, and we need meat. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we go in, cook a cookupok. We check out next morning,

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Speaker 1: getting ready to go, say five in the morning. Here

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Speaker 1: we go, let's go. I forgot the meat cheese wraps

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Speaker 1: we had if we didn't actually buy cheese either, we

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Speaker 1: had lettuce and the rap and mustard, so we didn't

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01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: have we didn't even make them, obviously. But there's a

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Speaker 1: photo of us at the top of like this six

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Speaker 1: thousand foot hike just eating the rap. Just tortilla, just

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Speaker 1: tortilla rap. Nice. It was tasty. It was one of

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Speaker 1: those like the green ones. No not spinach. What was it?

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Speaker 1: What was it? It's not spinach? No, no, no, that's

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Speaker 1: not what's the green tortilla wrap? I thought you guys

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Speaker 1: would get it right away. They would be spinach.

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Speaker 3: In my house, I would think maybe a green pepper.

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Speaker 1: What else would you? No, maybe you or maybe you're right.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was spinach though. No, No, it

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01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: wasn't a regula. I think you're right, garden spinach. It

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Speaker 1: had to have been this.

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Speaker 2: I would just put the mustard and lettuce in a wrap.

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01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 2: I mean, what's wrong with mustard and lettuce? I mean

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Speaker 2: it's not it's not anything. I thought there was a

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01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 2: hotdog come and I was going to be disappointed.

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01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of thought you were setting it up. No,

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01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 3: I just wanted to raw dogging it on the mountain.

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01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 3: That's not a bad idea. Pocket dogs. I mean you

1389
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 3: got pockets everywhere when your you do.

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01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, in your in your backpack and obviously your cargoes

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01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 1: or whatever.

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Speaker 3: It's like a slim jim but disgusting. Yeah, colder, Like,

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Speaker 3: how is a raw hot dog forty degrees colder than

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01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 3: that slim gym? Doesn't make any sense?

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01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: Well, this those would have been They would have been

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Speaker 1: not only raw, they would have been frozen hot dogs,

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Speaker 1: even on the one hike we did are like the

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Speaker 1: water camel back, Yeah, camel back. If the pipe froze up,

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01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: it's crazy. So we got to finally where we got

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01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: to dubs, like you got to put it against your

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01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: body heat. So this hose going up against my body

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01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: which was freezing cold, but it worked. It's unbelievable.

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01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 3: Man, I got hose. Yeah, man, chest So you're telling me,

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01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 3: by the time you got to the top of the mountain,

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01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 3: all you had was tortillas. An you guys one hundred

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01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 3: and twenty seven hours did a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. You got a plan for all this stuff.

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01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: We've learned some lessons, so there are some lifelo on

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01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: the mountains and the Great Smoky Mountains. Okay, let's call

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Speaker 1: it there. We're back tomorrow talking about tonight's games, maybe

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Speaker 1: hitting the beach. Get your questions in No Dunks, Inc

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Speaker 1: i NC at gmail dot com, or you can leave

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Speaker 1: them in the YouTube comments. Yeah. Is it a busy

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Speaker 1: night tonight? I don't even check.

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Speaker 2: That's a good skit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good s good. Okay, man, have a lot of

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Speaker 1: games talk about and we'll get into it. Obviously. Hit

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Speaker 1: the light button. Subscribe five star ratings and reviews till

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Speaker 1: that clipper bos.

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Speaker 2: You heard it here.

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Speaker 3: First, have a great time, turn up, love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember, according to Austin Rivers

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Speaker 2: on the broadcast yesterday, Canadians say the word easy like

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Speaker 2: this easy. I don't know why, he says, Canadians say

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01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 2: it that way where they prolog about Well, you know

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01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 2: there's those videos going around where kids are saying different

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Speaker 2: things in Toronto. Oh yeah, dude, that's probably where you

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01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 2: out of imagining easy. Yeah, that's right, I guess because

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Speaker 2: there's no traditional Canadian accent that says it. Then by

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Speaker 2: with the kids in Toronto like very multicultural environment, I guess.

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Speaker 2: So cool.

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Speaker 1: Story broke race today, people,