WEBVTT - Jeet Heer & Rep. Jared Moskowitz 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.120 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:12.520 today's best minds, and the Democratic primary to fill Arizona's 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:17.120 seventh congressional district seat vacated by the death of Representative 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:22.320 Raoul Grijalva has been won by his daughter, at Elita Grihava. 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.319 We have such a great show for you today. The 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:29.040 Nation Zone ged here stops by to talk about how 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:34.320 Trump's economic chaos is affecting the market and our upcoming 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:38.479 war with Canada. Then we'll talk to Congressman Jared Moskowitz 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:44.040 about the BBB and how the GOP is twisting itself 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:49.920 and not trying to defend their unpopular legislation, and Trump's 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:52.480 possible Epstein cover up. But first the news. 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.920 So, Molly, I love this chart front of the show 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.920 Justin Wolfers made where he shows Trump Ruber's about fire 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:04.080 Jerome Powell making the market crash and then him saying 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:06.600 I'm not going to do it and that the market 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:10.720 goes back up. Is a real, real, great picture of 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:14.520 the stupidity that goes on with this volatile, volatile man. 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:19.600 So Trump wants to fire Drome Pal why does he 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.319 want to do this. Also, does he remember that he 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:25.400 in fact hired Drome Pal in his first administration. 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.319 He does not, judging by his remarks today, he does not. 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:30.640 He wants to fire him because he wants to lower 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:33.880 interest rates. He wants to lower interest rates because he 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.880 wants a Banana Republic, and also because he thinks it'll 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.800 juice the economy. Here's the big problem that Trump has. 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:43.720 Trump cannot fire drome Pal, and he's sick of fans 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.720 at the Supreme Court who will pretty much sign off 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:50.920 on anything. Thank you Dahlia for explaining that to us 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:54.120 last episode. Will not and they put a little note 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.360 like you can't fire You can do anything you want, 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.000 but you can't fire drome Pal. Well, that crew has 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.880 said he can't do it, there's no legal justification for it, 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:06.160 and he can't do it now. That said, he wants 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.440 to do it, and telling Trump he can't do something 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.800 is a pretty good way to get Trump to do something. 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:13.840 So he wrote a letter about a sort of Dear 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:17.560 John letter to Jerome Pale. He showed it to Republicans 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.200 in Congress. By the way, I just want to point out, 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.520 like everyone involved in this story is of is both 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:25.960 a coward and a moron. So I don't want to 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.880 put too fine a point on it here. But Republicans 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:32.040 in the House have completely forgotten that they're a coequal 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.200 branch of government. So they're just scared that Trump is 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.880 going to fire Jerome Pale, which he can't do, so 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:42.800 Bloomberg reported this. CBS reported that Trump is circulating the 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:46.600 idea to Congressional Republicans on Tuesday because those are his buddies, right, 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.520 the dumbest members of Congress. Trump wants a three percent 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:54.280 point rate cut. It will be so, I mean, already 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.400 are dead. Okay, we have huge debt in this country. 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.960 We borrow it at the pleasure of being this currency. 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:05.920 You can see a world where the skittish bond market says, Okay, 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:10.720 Trump's going to be an emerging market dictator. That's fine, 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.640 We're going to treat your debt like emerging market debt. 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.480 And that means, you know, it becomes significantly more expensive 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.839 to borrow to pay off the debt that we can 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.800 never pay off as a country, And it means that 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:27.360 we just are crushed under American debt because servicing the 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.520 debt gets more and more expensive and we get more 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:33.880 and more fucked. We are just running head straight into 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:38.640 a brick wall, as often we see in Donald Trump, 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:42.600 and I want to reduce something which I think is 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:46.520 like so trumpy. Right, Andrew Jackson's were with the Second 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.040 Bank of the United States in the eighteen thirties is 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.920 how we got here. Right, This Treasury Fed a court 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.920 of nineteen fifty one that delineates the roles of the 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.320 two institutions at managing government debt. But you know, Trump 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.520 doesn't like checks and balances. So the guy who has 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:07.160 neutered the judiciary, who has you know, created a Congress 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.080 that is basically just a you know, a bunch of 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.920 guys who don't do anything well that he now wants 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.839 to get rid of the last kind of check and balance. 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.480 It's going to be terrible for the economy. And by 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:21.920 the way, part of why this is coming is because 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.560 Trump sees this inflation data which shows shockingly that the 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:27.839 thing we said about the tariffs, which was always true, 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.960 which is that their inflationary, is actually true. They are 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:34.200 in fact inflationary. He sees that tariffs are growing inflation. 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.480 He realizes that the FED is never going to cut 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.920 rates the way he wants them to, and so he's 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.160 trying to go around them. But what is so stupid 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.880 is that the reason the Fed won't cut rates is 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:47.840 because they don't want more inflation. Like there's actual reasoning 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:49.200 behind what they're doing here. 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:53.719 Sobley RFK Junior or another person who's really stable, genius 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:55.360 is what comes to mind when I think of him. 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.480 He has more shakeups at the staff at the Health Department. 0:04:58.560 --> 0:04:59.720 I'm really shocked to hear this. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.359 Yeah, you're I'm shocked to hear the people hate working 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.400 for the guy who does not believe in in basically 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:11.000 any of the normal tenants of medicine. Yeah, so he 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:14.320 is firing people, They are quitting. You know, he's fighting 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.480 with the White House. I don't know why the White 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.279 House is fighting with him. We've got the biggest measles 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:22.839 outbreak of modern you know, since there was a vaccine 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:28.279 caused almost entirely by his terrible misinformation. So this week 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.280 his chief of staff and deputy chief of staff for 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:36.200 policy are both fired, according to CNN. By the way, 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:40.360 I just remember why there's so much stuff about this administration, 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.760 and we talked about it a couple episodes ago. But 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:47.719 like the everyone is leaking. Okay, everyone in this administration 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.320 is leaking. You're if you're unhappy with your you know, 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:53.320 like the FBI is leaking. This one's leaking. That one's leaking. 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:57.000 So you'll see tons and tons of really bad stories 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:01.400 about Kennedy coming out, and quite frankly, you should. Yeah. 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.560 So in other stories about not being able to maintain 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:08.679 staff the Trump administration, their Supreme Court lawyers are quitting. 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.000 In mass almost seventy out of one hundred and ten 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:11.440 have quit. 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:12.040 Yeah. 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:16.280 So this is one hundred and ten lawyers in the 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:20.320 federal branch, sixty nine have departed or signaled their intention 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.040 to depart. I'm not a math person, but that seems 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:23.840 like a lot. 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:26.480 As a math person up and say, it's a lot. 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:30.240 You're coming from an administration where you did things like 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:35.920 fought discrimination and fought, you know, for clean water and 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:40.159 fought for people's rights, to an administration where you are 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:45.600 fighting to jail people, fighting to send people to countries 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:49.200 they'd never been to, you know, to deport Mexicans to 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.200 the South Sudan. There's a reason people keep quitting. It 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.320 is because this administration is asking them to do things 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:58.159 that are morally incorrect. And again this goes back to 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.520 this whole idea that people work in the government are 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.240 not people who couldn't get better jobs. Those are people 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.960 who work in the Trump administration. People work in the 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:11.520 government are people who consider the government's work to be important, 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.520 and so they take less money because they want to 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:15.560 serve their country. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:16.840 And what I. 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.200 Think Trump world does not get is that these people 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.560 can just go get better jobs, and that is what 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.240 is happening everywhere. 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:24.800 Yep. 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.560 So, speaking of friends of the show, Josh Marshall is 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.880 a very big regular here in his uh out at 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:34.240 TPM has an amazing investigative reporting article on the contracts 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.560 that show millions of dollars diverted from disaster resources of Florida. 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:41.800 We're used to build Desantas Alligator Alcatraz that is already 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:43.640 a disaster waiting to happen. 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:48.840 Yeah, so, my god, detention camp in Florida in the Everglades, 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:52.360 a place with a lot of flooding, a lot of alligators, 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:56.560 very hot. So it turns out that money that was 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.600 meant to be for disaster relief. By the way, it 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:02.520 is herhurricane season just about to start. 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:03.280 What could happen? 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:03.760 Right? 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:04.520 What's the worst. 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:08.360 So hurricane season's about to start, and Trump has said 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:12.840 he's going to you know, eviscerate FEMA. Basically that's part 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:15.400 of Project twenty twenty five. You can see where this 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:19.600 is going, right, Florida tax payer money being spent to 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:25.760 create Alligator Alcatraz. Why because Desanta's wants Trump to love him, 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:30.800 and because DeSantis knows his only path to ever being 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.520 president is to go extreme maga. So there's a part 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:38.120 in this that Talking Points memo has in here that 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:42.920 says they've identified contracts and invoices totally about nineteen million 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.560 dollars in the Florida Accountability tracking system. 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.240 By the way, I love that. 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:52.160 You know, there's still like this weird tech thing where 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.920 they're like, we're going to show what we're doing. But 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:57.720 you guys like it's cute that you want to show 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.400 what you're doing, but you're doing crimes, right. I mean, 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:02.720 there's no world in which this is okay to use 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:04.840 money for disaster or relief. I mean, maybe it's not 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:10.200 crime per se, it's certainly Malfeasan's right almost twenty million 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:13.960 dollars to issued to nine different firms. In one instance, 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:18.200 the chief executive of a company contacted by TPM. Was 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:21.240 he was unaware that his business products were being used 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:24.560 for the detention camp. Yeah, sure, I'm sure there'll be 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.320 more on this. It was completely clear that that was 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.000 what this was going to happen, that this was how 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:33.480 it was going to go. So DeSantis, of course, and 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:39.360 Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who you may remember is being herself, said, 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.640 they are essentially packed into cages wal to while humans 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:48.200 thirty two detainees per caved cages in a high flooding area. Yeah, 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:54.360 this is going to end in tears. Geet here is 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.640 a contributor to the nation and the host of the 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:02.120 Time of Monsters. Welcome back to Fast Politics, Geat, good 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.360 to be on the show. Are we going to war 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:05.640 with Canada? 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.320 Possibly? Although I actually what I'm hearing now is a 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:10.360 more likelihood, for better or words, of going to war 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:14.839 with Mexico. There's a pretty good reporting and I think 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.360 in a Mexican newspapers that there's a lot of chatter 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.880 in Washington that Trump wants to make an excursion into 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:24.040 Mexico and he's asking Republicans and as is there want 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.600 the Republicans in Congress are saying, yeah, go for it. 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:30.880 You know, really, I didn't see this reporting, but I 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:31.480 don't like it. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.400 Yeah, yeah, I could send it to you, but I 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.680 was in a Mexican newspaper. But it's for somebody who's 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.080 like a very well regarded curious And there have been 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:41.760 this chatter before, I mean like Trump, and Trump has 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:43.960 said so before, like he wants to send in you know, 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:47.880 he's the Marines against the cartels. So Canada is a possibility, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:51.600 but I think Mexico is also like all the neighbors. 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:55.199 Greenland New York magazine had a big piece about how 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.440 much Canada is mad at. 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.400 Us on the level of public sentiment. Yes, there's a 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:03.320 lot of Canadians that are are mad. Now. I have 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.600 to say the Carnegie government has been like being cautious 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:09.079 as I think a lot of the Europeans are where 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.280 I think they're trying to see how much they can flatter. 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.160 Yeah and yeah, and I think a lot of that's acts. 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.439 He's driven by Ukraine, where they I think they may 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.240 maybe have had some success in trying to get him 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.320 to reverse his policies. But yeah, I mean, like on 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:25.480 the level of public opinion, yeah, I know, I mean 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.880 I don't think i've seen every seen anti Americanism this high. 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.920 I mean, I think the longer run trendancy beyond like 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.960 this manipulation strategy. I think it's just a short run 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.240 thing to see what they can get. I think in 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.079 the longer run, you know, what you're hearing in both 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:44.160 Canada and in Europe is people talking about like, you know, 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.880 like a sort of post America future, the globe, the 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.400 global mail, which is like a very like Canada's New 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:52.560 York Times is a very sort of conservative business complication. 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:54.600 But they had an op ed saying, well, you know, 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.720 kind of I should look towards China as a future 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.440 trading partner and it's more reliable than the US at 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.720 this point. You see that with like like Brazil and 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.280 in France, like there's been a lot of sort of 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.840 talking the sort of the technocratic policy elite about you know, 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:11.120 weaning away from NATO. What we're seeing right now as 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.440 a short trend of you know, let's see how much 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:15.840 like with the Taco stuff, you know, you feel like 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.240 a lot of people feel like they can manipulate Trump 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.120 and get them to do it. But the more long 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.120 run thing is that this is you know the fact 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.959 that Trump was elected twice as a sign of irresponsible 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.880 country and that if you were thinking about, you know, 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.120 was you know, what other options are are there out there? 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.479 Always good to hear that that our country is regarded 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:39.720 well overseas and that our electorate is considered to be 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:45.120 quite moronic and stupid by our peers. Thank you, gee, 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.720 good reality checks there to talk about. 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:52.480 Jeff App Yes, the New York financier Jeffrey Epstein. 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:56.800 Yes, perhaps you've heard of him, Jeff App Like, this 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:01.960 is not the way I thought Epstein would unraveled Trump discuss. 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.080 The thing is, I think that there actually has been 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.640 if you go look back, this kind of rift has 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:08.719 always been there in the sense that it was a 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:12.320 qute on people and people like Vance who like really 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:16.000 talked up Jeffy Epstein thinking you know, like not without justice, 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:17.480 that this is a good way to be an anti 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:21.240 establishment person and to really, you know, go against it. 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.480 Trump has always been a little bit more cautious, like 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:27.679 if you go back, remember you know Gislayne Maxwell. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.839 Right, I wish her well, he said, like, I. 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.840 Wish her well. Yes, And apparently, according to reporting in 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:34.880 the Daily Beast, like you know, he had to even 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:36.640 thinking about giving her, a part of which is like 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.600 a really remarkable thing. Even more recently, like there were 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:43.720 like these interviews why which like you know, thank you CBS. Uh, 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:45.400 they did not see air it at the time, but 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:48.400 where like you know, Trump was saying, you know, like 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.079 he wasn't sure they would release the f Steve fileser, 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:52.560 you know, like keep being asked. I think there's that 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:53.720 famous interviewer. 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:57.959 Right, that's right, they edited, yes, say more on that. 0:13:58.400 --> 0:13:59.880 First of all, Like there's a news where the. 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:05.120 So Trump sued CBS for editing a question that Harris 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:09.520 got by sort of editing to a clearer answer. One 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:13.120 part they played was her sort of more gargled, and 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.440 a different show they played her clearer answer. Now it 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.640 turns out that there was the same thing. They did 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.400 the same thing with Trump, and there's a whole sort 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.520 of a couple of minutes of him being like maybe 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.560 I would, maybe I wouldn't, I don't know what I 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:33.120 would with Epstein and that stuff never got shown. And aka, 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.080 Harris should sue CBS. 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.720 She should because CBS also, I mean, the other kicker 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.400 on all this is that like they basically surrender to Trump. 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:45.280 They're gonna like give him like a huge payout for 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.240 like standard journalistic procedure. But the Trump thing is like 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.960 much worse candalous than like editing for clarity, which like 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.360 journalists always do. With the Trump thing, you know, like 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.280 it was a newsworthy thing. And there was like another 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.040 interview that did at the air where he was asked, 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.960 like jeff he said, sure, where were released at UFOs? 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.920 Oh yeah, absolutely Jeffrey Epstein. He said, well, I don't 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:08.640 know about Epstein, you know, yeah, so he'd always been 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.680 reluctioned to do so. And I think, you know, like 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.560 there's a number of obvious reasons why. I mean, like 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.480 when can you know rehearse the fact that he and 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.840 Epstein were like on both accounts, very close friends for 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.200 like a decade and a half from sorry, from the 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.080 late nineteen eighties, still around two thousand and two. I 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.600 believe Jeffrey Epstein actually had like a was a member 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.200 of mar Lego and like would stay there all the time. 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:33.200 There's a famous video of them partying. Trump told The 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:35.600 New York Magazine in two thousand and two, Yo, Epstein's 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:37.720 a hell of a guy. I mean, like beautiful woman 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:41.040 almost as much as I do sometimes on the younger side, 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:42.880 you know, like it's just like to. 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.360 Be right sometimes on the younger side. Yeah. 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:48.400 See, it's just like the incredibly damning statement, you know, 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.680 given that this guy was later convicted the trafficking in 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:53.880 young women and as well as you know, all the 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.720 connections with kislne Maxwell. But even in addition to like 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.160 Trump himself, Like, you know, one thing we know about 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.640 Jeffrey Epstein is that he's very well connected with like 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.720 the American financial elite. I don't know if you know this, 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.640 but you know who Jeffrey Epstein's next door neighbor was, 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.560 you know, because Jeffy had like one of the biggest 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.760 mansions in New York and he had a next door neighbor. 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.000 So that is like the guy who's doing all the 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:22.440 terrifs lit neck Oh yeah, who now owns Jeffrey Epstein's house. 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:28.320 Then after his neighbors and now is the owner of 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.119 the former Epstein estate. 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:33.800 Did he buy that house? Yeah? 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:34.680 Yeah? Why not? 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:35.960 Like what why not? 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.760 Yeah, buy this house where all these creepy things happened, 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:43.280 and that there were secret recordings in the Furthermore, I 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:47.360 mean Trump would know in his social circles, especially if 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:49.720 Epstein had been a member of mar Lego and then 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:53.000 you know, like often kept company with New York financial people. 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.960 Trump basically would know. I would have to guess, like, 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.520 you know, fifty percent at least of the people on 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:03.520 any sort of like Epstein a Black Book list or 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:05.439 whatever you want to call it, any any sort of 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.479 like network that you drop of who was Epstein's inner circle, 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.359 that would be pretty heavy with people that Trump would know. 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.960 And I think that in and of itself, in addition 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:17.480 to whatever personally incriminating things happened, Trump has a lot 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.240 of reasons for not wanting to release US, and so 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:23.120 it's actually put him into conflict with his base. And 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.400 Political have a good art article about this, But like, 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:27.399 this is one time where I think the Democrats are 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.320 doing the intelligent thing. Who are because they have fully 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.800 that shows that Trump's base is actually very upset of this. 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:36.160 They actually had believed that against all reasons, like why 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.960 would you think Trump with all people, would release any 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:42.000 incriminating stuff on jeffy Epstein, But they actually believed that, 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.600 and so like now it's actually going forward. I don't 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:50.000 know if you saw in Congress they have Republican They're 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.880 gonna they're gonna get others to have their Democrats unified, 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:54.640 so they will be able to get like a very 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:57.480 strong statement from Congress to release all the Epstein files 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.080 with with you can redact the names and information with 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.880 the victims, because that's how what we're conservatives, right, We're 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:06.960 concerned with who Epstein knew. So Trump it's an incredible 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.879 self owned and I think that one reason it's a 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.400 cell phone, and one reason I think that it has 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:16.040 like a deeper damaging thing is that the way people 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:19.120 like Vans were using Epstein was very much in keeping 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.480 with Maga ideology, which is a sert of anti systems politics, 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:25.240 to say the whole system is corrupt. We're the only 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:28.119 honest guys. This is like sort of Qune on Maga 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:32.080 at its most like you know, philosophical level, like this, 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.400 this is what they actually believe. And then to suddenly 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.160 turn around and suddenly say, you know, like oh yeah, 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:39.960 there's nothing to see here, you know, like Epstein, who's 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:42.119 that guy? Why are we still talking about Epstein? That 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:45.080 does not sit well with you know, at least enough people. 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:48.480 And I think that, yeah, I think that like Trump 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:52.000 is actually quite vulnerable on this. Actually a little bit 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.160 uncomfortable to even talking about this on a political level, 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:56.960 you know, like the whole TYPECD is like incredibly sick 0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:59.879 and twisted, and we should actually know the facts. We 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.560 should actually know who he was concerting with, who he 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.280 did business with. And I think the line now is 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:09.000 that like there was no trafficking and there's no blackmail. 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.399 But like to believe that because Epstein, when he was 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:15.080 in jail and he died under whatever circumstances, he was 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:18.520 like on charge for trafficking, and Gislam Maxwell was like 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:21.399 convicted onto trafficking charges. So you have to believe that 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:25.120 these people were trafficking, but not trafficking to anyone it 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:28.240 was like except themselves, Right, It's absurd. I mean, even 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:31.240 beyond that, we know, like we actually have very specific 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:35.880 cases where Bill Gates his divorce. We know because this 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:39.359 came out in interviews and testimony, Epstein had released some 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:42.600 information to Bill Gates's wife and that led to the doors. 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.199 So so so to be that indicates that like of 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:49.679 course Epstein was trafficking and information uh and using it 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:52.199 like to whatever advantage he could have. So so so 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:55.520 this is like there's actually a real legitimate public interest 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.120 in knowing this, even if no one goes to jail 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:01.320 or Phy don't have to convict this. I lows this 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:04.520 is like a bit like the GfK assassination stuff, where 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:07.000 like you know, like, are you gonna find a smoking gun? 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:10.040 Is just gonna like incriminate Trump or other people. I 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.280 don't think that's a relevant question. The relevant question is 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:14.360 does the public have a right to know this stuff? Right? 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:16.600 Because we now know, you know, this is one thing 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:19.879 that Trump actually did and actually Biden did to some degree. 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:21.600 You know, we know we have a lot more information 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.160 about the Kennedy files, and we know that the CIA 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.720 was lying to the American people like until like now, 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:32.240 like they've been lying for sixty years about now they've 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.280 been lying, and they actually gave a medal to the 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:37.120 guy who's the chief liar, who was like the CIA 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:40.480 agent who's involved with the fair play for committed with 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:43.760 various Cuban organizations and who had been monitoring Lee Harvey 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:46.960 Oswald along with like apparently like fifty other CIA agents. 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:50.520 We're like keeping crack of Oswald before he committed the assassination. 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.720 So that's actually you know, whether there's a smoking gun 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:56.439 or not, it's actually really worth knowing, you know, like 0:20:56.600 --> 0:21:00.480 how how closely the CIA was monitoring him and whether 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:03.240 they like messed up or anything else happened. So in 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:06.000 the same with this situation, like there's actually a really 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:09.400 pressing public interest to know, you know, like what what 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:12.600 what was this Jeffrey Epstein thing? Like it's just like 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:15.159 it stinks to high even and we should know as 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:17.960 much as one the one can legitimately know. And to 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:21.640 suddenly say like you know, like yeah, Trump's literal thing 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:23.439 is like move on. And you you actually hear this 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:26.320 from like Charlie Kirk saying like whoa you know, Trump 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:29.040 said there's nothing here, and I crusted the Trump administration 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:32.600 like why like how is not a legitimate position that 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:35.439 someone in power says, you know, there's nothing here, move on? 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:39.160 Right one? The boy is you know you elected him 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:42.040 to bring down the deep state. He is now the 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:42.639 deep state. 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:46.280 Absolutely, He's absolutely the deep state in the I mean, 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:48.320 you know a lot of ways I would argue, you know, 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:51.199 he's always kind of been the deep state. I mean 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:53.760 Trump is part of the elite system of elite immunity 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:55.119 as much as anyone is. 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:56.280 Yeah, I'm for sure. 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:58.960 So I mean That's why that was always the absurd 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:02.080 feature of not that people were wrong to think, like, 0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:03.720 you know, like it would be great to have a 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:06.600 president who takes on the establishments, like that's a legitimate thing. 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:09.399 The joke was at the time Donald Trump, of all people, 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:11.960 was going to be that hero. So actually, I think 0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:15.600 in that level, this is actually very significant and like 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:18.320 a real point of vulnerability because it really goes to 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:21.280 it's his kryptonite. It is like this is the thing 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:24.600 that like can illustrate to not all but many Trump 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:27.320 believers like wait a minute, this guy is not quite 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:30.639 who he said he was, you know. So yeah, I think, yeah, like, uh, 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:34.520 it's been great. I mean like just you know, like 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:37.080 I think, you know, the way that Trump has messed 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:39.200 us up, as you said, like you couldn't even begin 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:41.880 to imagine. We're not even talking about the the cover 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:44.880 up with they released this video of like the jail cell, 0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:46.720 and like you know, like now it turns out there's 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.960 like almost three minutes missing from that, Like well you know, 0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:51.160 like right. 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:56.400 Yeah, that didn't solve anyone's problems. That was the metadata 0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:59.480 shows three minutes lost, yes. 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:01.920 Yeah, yeah, So I never want to say like oh yeah, 0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:04.800 we got old Donnie now. But yeah, like I think 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:06.639 it has always been a sort of you know, one 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.359 of these like boxing midges, like Ali versus Apartman, where 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:12.080 you gotta keep punching, you gotta keep punching, and I 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:15.840 gotta say, if that'll knockout, it's a strong punch, right. 0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:18.800 And it also is it's sort of the end of 0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:22.760 the line, right. You see him trying to obfuscate and pivot, 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:28.520 and he's saying things like this is Comy by the way, Okay, sure, 0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:30.560 I don't care, never liked Comy. 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:34.080 It makes no sense. Like, okay, let's say, like Obama 0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:38.080 and Kobe fabricated the stuff the file did, why did 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:38.560 they use that? 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:40.000 Look? 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:43.639 You know, yeah exactly, and they did use it. And 0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:47.399 I think so you have you have Trump blaming Obama 0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:50.840 and Comy. You have this sort of reflexive you know, 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:53.720 it's a hoax, just like Russia, Russia, Russia. What's so 0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:57.400 interesting about Trump two point zero is besides the fact 0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:00.439 that we just our lives are passing us bar and 0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:04.199 we've spent all this time writing about the dumbest person 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:07.040 in the world. I mean, just I mean, don't you 0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:09.879 feel like as a writer at the beginning of Trump 0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:12.640 one point zero, you thought, wow, this is so insane. 0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:15.920 It's sort of interesting, like it's terrible for all of us, 0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.760 but it's so interesting. And now you're just like, oh, 0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:21.760 it's just it's stupid. He's gonna do something stupid. Here's 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:23.520 what's going to happen, something stupid. 0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:25.320 Yeah, I know, I mean, I mean, I know. The 0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:28.720 circus has lost its thrills a long time ago. 0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:31.240 And people don't tune in for it because they know 0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:34.000 it's just going to be stupid, Like you might as 0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:35.440 well just watch Love Island. 0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:39.280 No, absolutely, absolutely don't know. It's also that the limits 0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:43.000 of his act reappaired intellect Yeah. Yeah, like he's kind 0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:45.080 of really stuck in the past in a way that fight. 0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:47.440 You know, like he is still very much, you know, 0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.120 a creature of prevents, still obsessed with stuff that happened 0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:53.000 five ten years ago. He's ever like willing to let 0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:56.479 anything go. And also like it's totally these are all 0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:59.560 irrelevant things, Like it's actually not like resting. This is 0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:00.640 to do with rest. 0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:05.240 Yeah, it's nothing, not even a little. So let's talk 0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:08.800 about just for a minute here. There are a number 0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:13.119 of big problems that Trump has right inflation, wants to 0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:16.199 fire the chairman of the Fed. The Ukraine stuff. He 0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:21.120 told PUNI had fifty days again Putin. Supposedly, there's some 0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:25.159 Putin had said you needed another fifty days, right like that. 0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:28.520 There's some sense in which maybe Trump is not I'd 0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:30.720 be shocked to hear this acting on the level when 0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:33.720 it comes to Putin. Tell us what you sort of think, 0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:37.000 the kind of you think it's more sort of obfiscating 0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:39.919 and heading into more trade wars. I mean, yeah, I. 0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:42.520 Mean, or whatever the hell this is. I don't know 0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:44.720 if you. I mean, it's sort of like trade wars 0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:46.240 and then not trade wars. 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:48.520 And infrastructure remember infrastructure week. 0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:51.440 That's very exactly Yeah, yeah, I know. I mean he's 0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:53.119 just like he likes to kick the ball down the 0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:54.879 road a little bad, you know, like he's kind of 0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:59.240 really tready. I mean that he basically ran again out 0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:02.560 of revenge. His ego had been heard by losing to Viiden. 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:04.840 He could never accept the fact that he lost to Vidin. 0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:07.000 You know, he came back to show that he could 0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:09.560 come back. And he has a bunch of these obsessions, 0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:12.000 like let's make a deal with Putin, and let's do 0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:14.959 trade wars, I mean, and but a lot of it, 0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:17.639 the stuff that he's doing that way, he's had I 0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:19.840 wouldn't say success, but it's done a lot of damage. 0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:22.000 Is where he can offload it to someone who does care, 0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:24.720 like Steven Miller really does care about like you know, 0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:27.560 creating Mickey America as white as possible and like deporting 0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:30.000 everyone and so so yeah, Miller's in charge of immigration, 0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:33.520 doing immense amount of damage on the trade stuff he has. 0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:36.400 Trump has his preferences, but he still keeps going back 0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:38.480 and forth on all this, you know, Like so I 0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:40.200 think a lot is gonna be credit water and on 0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:42.920 the rush, on the Ukraine, on on foreign policy in general. 0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:45.919 He has no idea, no clue, so he'll just like 0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:49.440 waiver back and forth between different factions of his government, 0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:53.119 you know, some of whom want to withdraw from Europe 0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:55.360 and some of whom are like, you know, like want 0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:57.520 to keep going. And it's the same as amilies. So 0:26:57.720 --> 0:26:59.960 it's gonna be it's he started like flaying a lot. 0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:02.159 I mean, I actually think that on the issue that 0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:05.119 he's like done the most is also the most vulnerable, 0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:08.000 which is immigration. Well, I think a lot of sort 0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.200 of middle of the royal people did think like, oh, 0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:12.280 he's just gonna get rid of the bad people, the 0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:14.960 gang members and whatnot. And yeah, like you know, every 0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:17.440 day we're seeing like, you know, like just ordinary you know, 0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:19.960 people who've been there for ten twenty years, have lots 0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:22.560 of family here, I've been working here, you know, being 0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:24.879 deported and it's it's you know, it's number one. Immigration 0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:28.960 are like terrible, and support for like amnesty, powerway immigration 0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:31.480 has never been higher. I'm a little bit puzzled by 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.400 like why some Democrats have really step out of the play, 0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:36.040 but a lot of them are like reluctant on this, 0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:37.960 and I think that's a mistake because you know, as 0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.359 Carl Rope taught us, you attack your enemy on where 0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:42.399 they're the strongest. And Trump had used to be the 0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:45.040 strongest on immigration. And if you can really hammer home 0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:47.359 that he sold the Bill of Goods on immigration and 0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:50.800 he's like watching this and on the trade stuff, then 0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.280 I think, you know, he and the propokas are very vulnerable. 0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:55.920 Yeah, cheat here least come back. 0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:58.840 Yeah. I was happy to be a Yeah, yeah, I 0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:02.520 could become a war for their Trump does play and 0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:04.240 does lots wear against CANDADALLC. 0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:12.400 Congressman Jared Moskoodz represents Florida's twenty third district. Welcome back 0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:14.400 to Fast Politics, Congressman. 0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.359 What's going on, Molly? How you doing good? 0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:20.440 What's happening with the Epstein files? Let's talk about that first. 0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:21.359 Let's start with that. 0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.399 Well, I don't know what you're talking about. Is has 0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:25.200 been in the news. 0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:27.680 No, it has not been in the news. But if 0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:29.720 it were to have been in the news, why can't 0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:31.119 you just get over Epstein? 0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:33.880 Because I'm weak in listening to the Democrats, right, That's 0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.840 why I mean, first of all, let's go let's go 0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.680 to the beginning, right, Yes, people forget when he was 0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:42.240 running against Hillary, President Trump was the one who brought 0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:45.000 up Epstein. He was when he was running against the 0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:48.440 other Republicans in the primary. He was saying, well, you know, 0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:50.840 it's being very bad for Bill Clinton because you know, 0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:54.200 he went to the island just to ask Prince Andrew, right, 0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:57.239 and that's kind of where where it all started. And 0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:01.239 from that day on, right, he's been talking about, you know, 0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.280 Epstein and his whole movement's been talking about the deep state. 0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:07.720 How you know there's a list and how they're how 0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:09.960 they're gonna take it to high society and that it's 0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:13.440 all these Democrats, including the Clintons on this list, right, 0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:15.600 and they're gonna expose it and they're gonna go after 0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:17.760 the deep state and take it down. Now, you know, 0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:19.680 there's other people that thinks like, oh, the CIA is 0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:23.440 involved or foreign countries involved. Right, And you got Dan 0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:27.120 Bongino and Cash Mattel who made it, you know, you know, 0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.680 made their career online with this stuff. 0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.800 They wind up government gangsters, government gangsters. 0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:36.000 They wind up in the administration, in the in the 0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.440 Department of government to go after this. Pam Bondi, who 0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.280 was the Attorney General of Florida who dealt with Epstein there, 0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:45.240 becomes the attorney general here. She's dealing with Epstein. What 0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:48.720 does she do. She releases binders with nothing in them, 0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.160 beautiful nice white binders. I have one for you if 0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:51.720 you'd like one. 0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:56.360 Phase one, Phase one, Phase one, what was gonna be 0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:57.040 phase two? 0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.600 Well, this is like this is like the Avengers movies, 0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:03.640 multiple phases. Okay, So so she does this binder there's 0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:06.160 nothing in them, complete embarrassment. You would think at that 0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:10.360 point maybe pivot, maybe figure out how to land it. Nope, 0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.280 she comes on Fox and she says, the list is 0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:16.440 on my desks, right as if there was a list 0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.000 and it was on her desk, and now that then 0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:21.560 they do a memo and she says, guess what, no 0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:23.880 list and no desk. I don't even have a desk. 0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:27.640 So let's just pause for a minute in the interests 0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:31.040 of just dis secting the stupid heir, what do we 0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:34.560 think you think she was talking about the phone book 0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:36.720 like there has been a follow. 0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:39.959 At this point, who the fuck knows? Right, Look like 0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:41.480 I have no idea? 0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:45.600 Okay, yeah, member of Congress here, man, what member of 0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:46.200 our government? 0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:50.760 Yes, well most members of Congress probably, yeah. But at 0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:52.840 the end of the day, I mean, we have no 0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:55.000 idea what's going on? This has been a one eighty 0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:59.520 that is not just confused Democrats MAGA themselves have no 0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:04.240 fuse and bewildered. I'm watching Benny Johnson, Mike Flynn, the 0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:08.640 guy from VERITASO Keith, like they don't even know what 0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:11.840 to do here. They're still siding on you know, they're 0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.960 still opposing the president, wanting to release because they feel 0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:18.880 like this pedophile who hurt children had people from high 0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:21.840 society and that there are names, there. 0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:23.680 Are a lot of reasons to want to release this. 0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.520 Now Trump says that this is all the Democrats fault, 0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:29.560 where the one who came up with this, We're the one, 0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:33.240 I mean talk about projection, I mean the Lord. So 0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:36.040 now this now he's trying to get people to believe 0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:39.560 like for the last several years, this hoax that they've 0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.440 been talking about, this conspiracy theory that they talked about 0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:47.560 that they believe in, either is either true or a hoax. 0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:53.640 The Democrats created Biden in the basement. Clearly Barack Obama 0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.960 were still blaming him for stuff. Yeah, okay, and James 0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:01.840 it is and Komy it is absolutely wild. But this 0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:05.280 is really the first instance we're seeing where the MAGA 0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:07.959 base ain't buying it. They're not buying it, right, And 0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:10.680 so you have to ask yourself a question. Were they 0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:12.720 lying then or are they lying now? 0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:13.360 Right? 0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:16.880 Is there is there no there there and it was 0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:21.600 all a lie? Or is it so bad? Is so 0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:24.320 bad that it would take down the president and other 0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:25.640 people in the government. 0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:29.120 On Earth one where we I guess live. It's the 0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.200 federal government in a normal federal government. The reason why 0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:35.240 they wouldn't release a list of anything, and we don't 0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:37.080 even know if there is a list. Clearly, we know 0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.040 there's a phone book because we've seen reporting of people 0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.480 calling the numbers in the phone book, so we do 0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:44.680 know there's a phone book. But if there was something 0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:47.240 like that, the reason why you can't release something like that, 0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:50.000 if you're not going to press charges, is because you 0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:54.200 are then liable for all you know, ruining these people's lives, 0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:55.080 and they can sue you. 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.880 Right, yeah, one hundred percent. But also we got Jilane 0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:03.800 Maxwell in prison. Yeah, she's in jail. The Department of 0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:07.600 Justice is asking the Supreme Court to deny her appeal. 0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:11.200 There are Republicans who want to bring her to Capitol 0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.680 Hill so she can testify. The administration opposes that. 0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:19.120 Why and let let's get back for a second, because 0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:23.080 yesterday you guys in the House brought explain to us 0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:25.960 what happened yesterday and why Republicans blocked it, and who 0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:27.560 the Republicans were who blocked it. 0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:29.680 Sure, so there was a there was a rule vote 0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.560 in the Rules Committee with an amendment. Only one Republican 0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:36.440 voted for that, Ralph Norman Okay, which would have forced 0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:38.920 the release of the Epstein Files or other Republicans on 0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:40.880 the Rules Committee voted against it. Then there was a 0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:45.120 previous question where this language was tied in okay, and 0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:48.120 Republicans voted against it. In fairness to Republicans, they would 0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:50.440 never have allowed us to win the previous question. Anyways. 0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:53.400 These are like rule fights anyways. But yeah, it was 0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:56.200 the first time to put them on the board. Now 0:33:56.240 --> 0:34:01.160 you have a discharge petition with Thomas Massey, Marjorie Taylor 0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:05.240 Green and Democrats. What a weird soup of that. 0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:08.319 You have the numbers for that to get to pass, right, 0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:10.400 because Thomas max do. 0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:12.959 In fact, in fact, the rumors are they're gonna send 0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:16.360 us home. Before we actually signed the petition. 0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:20.120 Johnson just said yesterday, release it. 0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:23.440 Yeah, listen, Like Mike Johnson, he's a nice guy, he's 0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:25.880 a pleasant guy to have a conversation with. He's not 0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:30.000 in charge of the House, Molly, okay, he can say 0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:34.960 whatever he wants. But this is Trump's house, okay. And 0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:37.200 and so at the end of the day, I don't 0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:40.560 care what Johnson says to Manu, right, I care what 0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:42.920 the President is saying. And that's what you have to 0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:46.839 listen to. And the President's telling is move on, Move 0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:51.759 on the guys. The guy's dead. Forget about it. There's 0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:54.959 no there there. It was a hoax, it was Russia Gate, 0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:59.560 it was you know, the the Steel dossier. Good god, 0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:02.680 that's gonna go away. Telling people like, if you still 0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:04.600 believe in the Epstein thing, I don't want your support. 0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:10.480 Your weak He's willing to burn his own base over Epstein. 0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:12.920 And so look, I was never like a big believer 0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:16.320 in this whole thing. Obviously this Efstein was a terrible person. 0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:17.000 That he rotten. 0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:17.239 Hell. 0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:20.960 We obviously have to make sure his victims are protected, 0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:26.319 of course, but the over the top protection of by 0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:31.560 the president from that's what is intriguing strange. That is 0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:32.840 what is intriguing people. 0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:37.640 And there is also alex Acosta giving him this sweetheart 0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:42.319 deal the first time, and that costa goes into the 0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:43.200 Trump admin. 0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:45.000 That's right, it's. 0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:47.880 Not, this is not There is definitely a lot of 0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:48.600 smoke here. 0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.440 Oh, there's definitely a lot of smoke And we know 0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:54.640 that Trump knew him and had a relationship with him, 0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:57.560 and Trump's probably all over a bunch of stuff, right 0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:01.279 that we know that's been well well reported. They knew 0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.480 each other for a long period of time. What we 0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:06.000 don't know is who went to the island. That's what. 0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:11.879 Who was there? That's the list, right, But even if 0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:15.640 it's not a one sheet of paper, list, right, who 0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:17.919 are the people who went to the island? And that's 0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:21.040 what people want to know, and that is what At 0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:25.480 this point it appears the President is trying to protect 0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:29.120 that list of names. But why don't we let why 0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:31.800 don't we let her come testify, Let her come testify 0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:34.160 to Congress. Let's see what she has to say. 0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:39.360 But there are also hundreds of videos, thousands of videos 0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:41.040 and documents, and I mean. 0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.520 If it wasn't destrip Molly, if it wasn't destroyed, Hold 0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.439 on a second, there were at some point we were 0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:49.160 told videos. 0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:52.840 FPI sent it to the DJ, didn't they? So she said, 0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:53.640 so she. 0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:56.960 Said, okay, we I mean, you know, if you look 0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:58.600 at the poli, the American people don't believe a word 0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:01.960 that's coming out of DJ on this. So look, as 0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:06.920 Donald Rumsveld used to say, there are unknown unknowns, right, 0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:08.080 May he rest in peace. 0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:10.600 I don't want to say you're my favorite member of Congress, 0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.600 because there are members of Congress that I am actually 0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:16.719 very friendly with. You are but right now you are 0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:18.040 my favorite member of Congress. 0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:22.799 It was the Donald rumsveld quote that got you. Love that, oh, 0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.520 love that corupt You ever see the letter he sent 0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:28.640 to the I R S about his taxes by the way, no, oh, 0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:30.839 you've got go google it when we're done. He sent 0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:33.320 a letter when Donald Rumsfeldt one year sent a letter 0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:36.080 to the I R S. And the letter, the gist 0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:38.640 of it was something like, you tell me that I 0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:41.760 owe X amount of dollars this year. I'm gonna send 0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:45.160 you that amount of money, but I actually think you're wrong. 0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:48.759 I owe you more. You have no idea. You have 0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:51.000 no idea how much I owe you. I really have 0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:54.080 no idea how much I owe you. I'm gonna send 0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:57.040 you what you're telling me. It's a very funny letter. 0:37:57.280 --> 0:38:00.359 It is about to be hurricane season in Florida. You 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.480 guys climate change. I live in New York. We just 0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:08.600 had flooded subways, very scary, lots of flooding. We've seen 0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:13.120 a lot of flooding already. Your governor Ron DeSantis may 0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:16.400 have spent quite a lot of there's reporting from Talking 0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:18.879 Points Memo that he may have spent quite a lot 0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:23.560 of FEMA money on Alligator Alcatraz, not FEMA money, but 0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:28.600 state money for hurricanes. Now we have this hurricane season coming. 0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:33.680 Trump is trying to dissolve FEMA. Talk us through this 0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:37.719 incredibly bad situation that's about to hit Florida. 0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:39.440 Sure, so let me go through the whole thing. So 0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:42.839 on Alligator Avatraz, there's a grant that's within homeland, about 0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:46.000 six hundreds that's in account that FEMA is going to 0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:49.520 process for reimbursement. So the governor is spending state money 0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:52.239 while he will then wait for a FEMA reimbursement. Who 0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.200 knows how long that'll take or if it'll come at all, Right, 0:38:55.280 --> 0:39:00.360 because FEMA, FEMA is reimbursing at the crosshairs. Still is 0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:02.640 right possible? That being said, the state of Florida has 0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:06.399 the money. We're not Alba or Mississippi or Louisiana. They 0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:09.640 do have the money. So from a fiscal issue, right, 0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:12.240 even though they have spent way too much money building 0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:16.640 Alligator Alcatraz, right, it will not impact the state's ability 0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:18.280 to respond in a hurricane. 0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:21.040 But let's talk too, you think, but also is this 0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:23.319 legal to move around these funds like this? 0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:26.839 Well that look, I don't know the fund that it's 0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:30.040 rumored that Homeland is using was actually a fund that 0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:33.080 they froze that was being used being used to reimburse 0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:36.520 New York for that for the immigration issues there that 0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:40.000 they then criticized and fired someone at FEMA for reimbursing 0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.920 New York. But now they're taking the money and reimbursing Florida. 0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:46.040 Is it legal? It appears to be a legal grant 0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:50.640 right and having FEMA process it is also legal, although cumbersome, 0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:54.240 and so you know, from a federal government grant perspective, 0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:56.560 it appears to be legal. What Florida is doing with 0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:59.239 Alligator Alcatraz is a whole different story. But I want 0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:03.000 to I want to folk on FEMA because the situation 0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:06.319 can't be more dire. Molly okay. I believe FEMA is 0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:09.040 in worse shape than any other agency in all of 0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:12.160 the federal government right now. It started with talk about reform, 0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:15.279 FEMA reform, FEMA reform, and the agency. The industry has known, 0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:19.359 We've needed FEMA reform for years. Democratic, you know, FEMA administrators, 0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:23.520 Republican FEMA administrators, the industry, everyone knew FEMA needed rough form. 0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:25.560 One of the reforms is to get FEMA out of 0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:28.520 Homeland to get out of this big bureaucratic mess. Homeland 0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:31.440 has been disabusing FEMA for years, making FEMA run all 0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:33.720 of the grants of the other twenty two agencies there 0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:37.480 and bogging FEMA down in bureaucratic red tape rather than 0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.360 getting them to focus on response. In fact, I have 0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:42.280 that bill for the last three years to get FEMA 0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:45.719 out of the Homeland Security Department. What does Christy Nome do. 0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:49.000 She doesn't do reform, she does deletion there. Okay, she's 0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:52.520 literally dissolving this thing from within. Twenty percent of the 0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:55.840 workforce is gone. They're holding ten They're holding ten billion 0:40:55.880 --> 0:41:00.320 dollars worth of previously declared presidential disaster aid for billion 0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:02.959 dollars for just Florida. They got rid of BRICK, which 0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:05.960 was a program that helped counties and cities and states 0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:09.880 build resiliency. There's a federal grant that helped states build 0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:14.440 capacity emergency management capacity. Right, they're holding that grant money back, 0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:16.680 so they're saying, build your capacity, but we're not going 0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:18.319 to send you the money to do that that we 0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:22.640 usually send you. Got They forced people to take buyouts, 0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:24.400 some of the most senior people with the most amount 0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:27.840 of experience took those buyouts. You've got regional offices that 0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:30.920 are twenty thirty percent empty, right, and we have. 0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:34.439 The phone number problem right with Texas where they couldn't did. 0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:38.080 The resign the contracts. Yeah, they didn't resign the contract 0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:40.920 with the call center. With the call centers, they're not 0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:43.360 putting people in the field to go door to door, 0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:46.279 which is what they usually do. So in the in 0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:50.640 the year of doge E efficiency, they've actually made FEMA 0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:54.759 slower and less efficient. Okay, we got an administrator with 0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:58.120 no FEMA experience at all, this guy, David Richardson. I 0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:01.480 can't even remember a time in the history of FEMA 0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:05.760 where the FEMA administrator didn't go to a disaster area 0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:09.000 that the President and the Homeland Secretary went to. David 0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:11.600 Richardson wasn't there. He didn't come for several days later. 0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:13.520 Why he knows nothing, and he couldn't add anything to 0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:17.480 the equation, but I could. It's unimaginable. And then what 0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:21.080 you have in Texas, Christy Nome didn't activate the swiftwater 0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:25.320 rescue crews for three days. FEMA would usually just start 0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:28.160 pushing those crews. They would get them, get them on 0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:30.560 the road and reposition them so when then when they 0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:32.319 were needed and ready to go, that it would only 0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:35.080 take an hour or two to get them in the water. Okay, 0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:38.360 this is unconscionable. I don't care what they say. This 0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.800 is the fastest response in the history of not Okay, 0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:44.280 this is the slowest response since Katrina. 0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:48.160 Slowest response since Katrina's pretty damning. There's also a problem 0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:49.920 with the weather balloons, right well. 0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:52.120 Yeah, they're they're not doing the weather balloons anymore because 0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:53.040 they defund. 0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:55.360 It so that it would be your first line of 0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:57.840 defense against a hurricane, right well. 0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:00.680 Making sure we have accurate information to know the intensity 0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:02.319 of the hurricane, the track of the hurricane. There are 0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:05.799 dramatic concerns right that that information is not going to 0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:08.520 be reliable. You get a change in the track, and 0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:10.520 we've talked about this. I mean, look, I'm the former 0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:13.239 director of Emergency Management from the state of Florida, right 0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:15.560 for a Republican governor, Which shows you that I don't 0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:17.279 look at this in a partisan way when it comes 0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:20.000 to emergency management. This is the time to help Americans 0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.120 and their time of need. Hurricanes. Don't care you know 0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:24.359 how you vote it but there's a real sense that 0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.880 you know, hurricanes could shift and they do it, you know, 0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:31.360 fifty miles this way, sixteen miles that way, that changes evacuations, 0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:35.440 that change flood models. We may not have the same data, 0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:38.040 reliable data that we've had in the past. 0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:42.719 Yeah, so it seems like this is spiraling towards the disaster. 0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:47.000 Look, my hope now, obviously is that we have a 0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.680 light hurricane season and we have time to rebuild FEMA. 0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:53.880 Because even though that we have great people there, first responders, 0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:56.920 fantastic peop will care about this, FEMA is not ready, okay. 0:43:57.239 --> 0:44:00.200 And states that rely on FEMA to assist them that 0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:03.280 don't have big emergency management departments, like California or Texas 0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:06.560 or Florida, they're not ready to do this without a 0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:11.360 FEMA okay. Yeah, And so we should be concerned. We 0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:15.600 should be worried that if we get a big disaster 0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:19.200 into a state that needs FEMA help, that this situation 0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.680 will be a disaster within a disaster. 0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:22.560 Yeah. 0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:27.720 Yeah, it seems like the weather stuff, the FEMA stuff, 0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:30.520 but it doesn't seem like there has been an event 0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:33.840 like that. You would think what happened in Texas where 0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:39.600 obviously had they had more a better, more organized warning, 0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:41.759 less people would have died. 0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:45.319 Right, I mean so similar to like the shooting at 0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:48.040 my high school, right Martin Stoneman Douglas, where a bunch 0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:51.520 of kids were killed and teachers. When an event like 0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:54.279 that happens, we have multiple levels of failure and in 0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:57.400 this is in this instance in Texas. The reason you 0:44:57.440 --> 0:44:59.959 do you do an investigation, you do an after actor review, 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:03.239 is to learn what worked what didn't work to make 0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:06.319 those changes. Right, there are gaps in time between that 0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:09.520 last warning please go, you're gonna die versus when they 0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:12.480 started evacuation. We need to know, We need to know 0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:14.560 what worked and didn't work. We need to know where 0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:17.080 the gaps were, right, Right, I think you're gonna find 0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:19.120 that there were gaps at the local level. There's gaps 0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.880 at the warning. We might find gaps with FEMA's response. 0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:22.080 Right. 0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:25.399 It's not going to be one silver bullet how did 0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:29.040 this happen. It's gonna be a lot goes wrong town, 0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:32.399 and some of it may be as simple, Molly as 0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:33.960 this was in the middle of the night, and they 0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:36.360 couldn't reach people in the city, in the county, and 0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:39.800 they couldn't reach the first responders, Right, they weren't ready 0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:42.520 to go, and that's why from four four am in 0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:45.120 the morning till seven am, they didn't start evacuation until 0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:45.840 seven am. 0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:46.279 Right. 0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:48.680 It may have just been you know, this is not 0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:50.400 this is a r rural area. 0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:50.879 Right. 0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:54.040 There could be some just regular stuff that got in 0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:56.080 the way. I was on a city commission at county commission, 0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:58.080 and they're not just like sitting around waiting to go. 0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:00.440 Was it a volunteer fire to apartment? 0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:00.920 Right? 0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:03.640 Were those were those folks worried about their families? I mean, 0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:06.520 there's a lot of different moving pieces. That's why you 0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:08.600 do an after action review. 0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:09.880 Are they not doing it? 0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:12.680 I don't know, But I've called for investigation. I've called 0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:15.000 for hearings. That's what I want to do in both 0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:17.680 Homeland and Transportation, which has oversight of FEMA. 0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:17.960 Right. 0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:21.240 For me, this isn't about gotcha. It's about did something 0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:24.960 different in FEMA? And what were what was the repercussions 0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:25.239 of that? 0:46:25.480 --> 0:46:25.640 Right? 0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:28.080 Did it impact it? It did it not impact it? 0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:31.200 We we don't know. Okay, what I can tell you 0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:33.760 is it didn't help Molly. Clearly wasn't a positive. 0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:37.040 Yes, Trump still seems like he's pretty interested in getting 0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:37.600 rid of FEMA. 0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:41.960 No, they're pivoting. No, okay, yeah, yeah, they're pivoting. So there. 0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:44.879 I actually believe there's a disconnect between the West Wing 0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:48.239 and Christy Nome on this interesting. Yeah, I think it 0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:49.960 was all fun in games, like you're gonna get rid 0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:51.439 of it, and she's like, yep, mister presient, we're gonnat 0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:53.319 rid of it. We're getting rid of it. Now now 0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:55.640 they're pivoting. No, we're going to rebrand it. We're going 0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:58.080 to reform it. We're getting rid of it as you 0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:01.120 previously knew it, like you know the artists formerly known 0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:01.600 as Prince. 0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:05.480 So it's going to be FEMA two point Oh it's actually. 0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:08.080 There's a great room symbol. No, no, you're gonna love this. 0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:10.080 There's a rumor going on, you know what, you know 0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:12.279 what some people are saying it's gonna be called what 0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:16.840 the National Office of Emergency Management. You know what the 0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:27.520 acronym is NATO No no, oh no, yeah no, yeah, yeah, anyways, 0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:28.560 back to Earth one. 0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:33.520 Yeah, that would be amazing, amazing. I mean, I can't 0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:36.560 believe post do. But everything is like at all points 0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:37.879 in this administration. 0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:39.480 Yeah, I mean, by the way, I did have a 0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:42.520 thought like maybe the swift water rescue crews that we 0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:44.759 were waiting for, maybe they were on Pambondi's desk. 0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:47.600 Karen, Yes, will you come back? 0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:49.239 Of course, I'll always come back. 0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:49.960 Okay, good. 0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:53.320 Moment. 0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:57.520 Jesse Cannon Smiley. 0:47:57.600 --> 0:48:00.560 A few weeks ago, Josh Holly, he was putting up 0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:04.120 all this resistance to Medicaid cuts. Some of our people 0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:06.560 who do punitorary like us said, maybe we can get 0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:08.319 him to be a Democrat, and you and I on 0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:12.000 an episode said, well, Josh Holly does what he is 0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:14.160 best for him. And here we have another case of 0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:16.640 that where he's introducing a bill to repeal the Medicaid 0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:19.719 cuts in the big bullshit bill that he voted the pass. 0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:23.120 You know, this is the thing about all of this. 0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:28.040 These people, and this is true with the people like 0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:31.399 in the Freedom Caucus too. All these people are full 0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:31.840 of shit. 0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:32.319 Right. 0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:36.200 They want to seem like moderates, but when it's time 0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:39.240 to stand up for stuff, they will not. So don't 0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:42.640 let yourself get played these people. All they care about 0:48:42.719 --> 0:48:46.040 is winning their primaries. All they care about is not 0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:49.000 getting Trump's people calling them on the phone and saying 0:48:49.040 --> 0:48:49.800 mean messages. 0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:52.279 Could I add though, I think Josh Holly has an 0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:55.080 added third one, which is that he still delusionly believes 0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:56.160 he'll be president one day. 0:48:56.400 --> 0:49:00.560 Sure, they all are like this. Susan Collins voted against 0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:03.800 this bill because they knew they had the votes. Okay, 0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:07.319 she is not a good person who's disturbed. She is 0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:10.719 just a craven politician like the rest of them. By 0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:14.760 the way, Lisa Murkowski voted for the BBB, you know why, 0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:17.880 because they figured she could get reelected in Alaska. This 0:49:17.960 --> 0:49:20.799 has been gamed out, like you can't believe. So none 0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:25.239 of these people are trustworthy. None of these people are 0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:28.879 good people. None of these people are moderates. Okay, we've 0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:31.439 been down. This has been almost a decade of trump Ism. 0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:35.520 There are no moderates here. Everyone is a you know, 0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:42.960 either a craven opportunist or absolutely pathetic sickophant. That's it 0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:49.200 for this episode of Fast Politics. Tune in every Monday, Wednesday, 0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:53.879 Thursday and Saturday to hear the best minds and politics 0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:58.239 make sense of all this chaos. If you enjoy this podcast, 0:49:58.600 --> 0:50:02.000 please send it to a friend and keep the conversation going. 0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:03.600 Thanks for listening.