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Speaker 4: slash audio all right back to Kayla Harrison if we could,

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Speaker 4: and the performance was incredible. The camoro was particularly vicious.

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Speaker 4: It seemed like it would have been a super consequential

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Speaker 4: decision for Juliana Penya to fight a second longer in

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Speaker 4: terms of any damage she was grabbing her arm after

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Speaker 4: the fact. That was a scary, scary end of the fight,

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Speaker 4: and Kayla Harrison said she was prepared for hard twenty five.

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Speaker 4: She got it done at the four fifty five mark

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Speaker 4: a round two Ken flow.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I was most curious to see how

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Speaker 6: just because you know, the way cut looked like it was.

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Speaker 7: It was difficult, but she.

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Speaker 6: Made it and that was completely unnecessary. It didn't matter.

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Speaker 6: She got that side control position, got hold of that

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Speaker 6: Kimora and John I agree. I think if she went

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Speaker 6: there would have been serious damage, either to the shoulder,

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Speaker 6: very tough. I was a little concerned because Penya sometimes

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Speaker 6: that powerful in that technical you got to tap out.

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Speaker 6: That would have been bad for Panya. But her position

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Speaker 6: was just on point Man. She seemed very composed. This

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Speaker 4: It was nice to hear Kayla Harrison's story get told,

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Speaker 4: and a lot of people were not aware of what

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Speaker 4: She ended up adopting her sister, who has dealt with

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Speaker 4: her here in this position already had financial freedom, but

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Speaker 4: Henry Shuto in terms of combat sports accomplishments in totality

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Speaker 4: marrying the Olympic goal with the UFC gold. But it

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Speaker 4: is harrowing Kenny as we spin it forward to hear

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Speaker 4: her say to Joe Rogan, god gets the final pound off,

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Speaker 4: I can't do it. And you know you and Keith

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Speaker 4: Loorian have talked about you literally staring death in the face,

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Speaker 4: and I don't know if this brings back PTSD for

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Speaker 4: back as you're trying to cut that final pound from

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Speaker 4: one hundred and forty six down to one hundred and

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Speaker 4: forty five pounds. But Kayla is not long for this,

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Speaker 4: and the Amanda noon As fight is going to happen

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Speaker 4: a one hundred and thirty five pounds, and I think

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Speaker 4: it might actually be Kayla Harrison's last cut win or lose.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you do that fight twice if she loses. I

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Speaker 4: think if Kayla Harrison beats Amana noon As, She's never

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Speaker 6: I fig're dead on I what else is there to

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Speaker 6: be done after you beat the greatest female mixed martial

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Speaker 6: and I think it's going to be difficult given everything

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Speaker 6: how she's coming back, But if she's able to do that,

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Speaker 7: In my opinion, I think she should go out on top.

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Speaker 6: I don't think there's anyone in the game and one

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Speaker 6: so I think that's a Yeah, it's a super fight

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Speaker 4: So soh Kayla Harrison's manager, my friend Alle Abdella Zaz,

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Speaker 4: was hoping that maybe Kayla Harrison and Amanda Nunez would

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Speaker 4: talk to Amanda Noonez on the post fight show. She's

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Speaker 4: a bandam weight. She moved up to featherweight to fight

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Speaker 4: Chris Cyborgan. Yes, the weight cut can be difficult for

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Speaker 4: say November, but Kayla Harrison wants to give Amanda as

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Speaker 4: much time as she needs. I think what was most

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Speaker 4: encouraging for me on the Amanda Nunez front Kenny, She's

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Speaker 4: not just coming back for one fight. You know, ideally

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Speaker 4: she wins the fight, defends the title. And then she

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 4: I feel like Amanda Nunez needed a break. And if

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Speaker 4: you're asking me right now, Kenny, and I know it's

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Speaker 4: going to be a massive Payday against Kayla Harrison one

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Speaker 4: of the biggest fights men or women that we can

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Speaker 4: put together right now. But if you're asking me over

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Speaker 4: I actually think she's going to fight four more times

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Speaker 4: or more based upon my interactions the time spent with

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Speaker 4: her this weekend. Wow, she's back.

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Speaker 6: Wow. I mean she looked fired up, she looked like

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Speaker 6: but she does. She seems motivated to go out there

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Speaker 7: Is a great sign. How old is Amanda John How

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Speaker 7: old is she?

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Speaker 4: I think maybe thirty four or thirty five?

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Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, so she's still.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Cody'll chase the exact birthday. Thirty seven.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I'm thirty seven, all right.

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Speaker 4: As of May thirtieth, just turned just turn thirty seven,

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Speaker 4: So yeah, we'll see. But she certainly sounded like an

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Speaker 4: four years of age. My speculation is that Kayla Harrison's

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Speaker 4: in time. I don't know, but you could be sure.

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Speaker 4: Both of these ladies are going to make an absolute

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I would think that a man the

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Speaker 7: Would be the favorite.

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Speaker 6: I think that you know, she is one of the

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Speaker 7: On her power, her size or speed.

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Speaker 6: She will certainly have a big advantage when it comes

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Speaker 7: So you know, it's you could.

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Speaker 6: You know, some people will say this is kind of

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Speaker 7: She does a good job of getting back to her feet.

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Speaker 7: She's not easy to take down, and we.

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Speaker 6: Saw pit Chaco in the PFL, you know, have a

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Speaker 7: But yeah, so I'm curious. I would give.

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Speaker 6: Noon As the edge as of right now, assuming she's

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Speaker 4: Timing is everything in life, right, Kaitlyn Vida is probably thinking, man,

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Speaker 4: you know, I fought Kayla Harrison tooth and nail. I've

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Speaker 4: My possibility that Kayla Harrison can be extended by a

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Speaker 7: So no shame in not.

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Speaker 6: Like, Hey, there's power, and then there's like Joe Pifer power, right,

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Speaker 4: Well, bone structure, bone density, right, I mean you got

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Speaker 4: it all right. So I'd like to get to Kevin

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Speaker 7: That was that was a Bramo choke? Man? Did he

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Speaker 6: Kevin Holland just looked so comfortable out there and really

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Speaker 6: So dude, I like him here and another well deserved

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Speaker 4: So what is the ceiling on Holland at seventy. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I know he's been working on his wrestling, but that

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Speaker 4: It was twenty twenty three when he fought Jack Della

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Speaker 4: But he's prize fighting in a lot of respects. But

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