1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Warning. Today's episode contains spoilish Peacemaker season two episode seven, 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: Like a Keith in the Knight. Hello, my name is 3 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: Jason Septune and I'm Rasey Nike and welcome back to 4 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: the X ray vision of the podcast, where we dive 5 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: deep in your favorite shows, movies, comics of pop culture. 6 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: Coming to you from my our podcast. We'll bring you 7 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: three episodes a week. 8 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: Past news. 9 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: In today's episode, we will be breaking down the penultimate 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: episode of Peacemaker two oh seven season two. It's almost 11 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: the last episode and some crazy stuff went down and 12 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: we will be talking about it. 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: And of course he's back. 14 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: He was on vacation, but now our peace Maker correspondent 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 3: super producer Ian has returned for Peace Makeup two seven. 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 4: How I'm doing great. I also just happy to say 17 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 4: that I was right. Thank you guys for the flowers. 18 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: Thank you. 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 4: It feels scared, feel scared. 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: I have to give you the credit. We had to 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: give you the credit. 22 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, gonna be interesting to break down what this episode 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: tells us about that. 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: Well, let's dive into it. Episode seven, Like a Keith 25 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: in the Knight. It opens up right on the heels 26 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: of the previous episode Nazi Harcourt is having Chris and 27 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: Harcourt arrested in the office of Argus. Harcourt is like, Chris, 28 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: I can't believe that you didn't notice you've been hanging 29 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: out in Nazi world. And he's like, well, I'm not 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: like a super well read. 31 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: Guy, because like mine camp everywhere. 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: Would I be this yeah? Would I be this ripped 33 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: if if I was like reading books? And she's like, well, 34 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: how did you not notice? In a rerunnable, how did 35 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: you not notice this mural of Hitler? And there's smash 36 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: cut to a huge wall sized mural of Hitler. 37 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: Uh so you have the American flag with the Nazi 38 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: symbol on it too. 39 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: Like to be fair, Harcourt had also been through that 40 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: office and did not call out the Hitler mural until 41 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: this very moment. Let's let's just relax. But yes, hilarious 42 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: gag that stretches credulity. Chris tells Nazi Harcourt, listen, I 43 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: think we got to break up, and it's complicated, but 44 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: we got to do it. Then he and Harcourt fight everybody, 45 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: They take out all the Nazis and they begin their 46 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: escape from the office. Back at Vig's house Nazi dimension Vig, 47 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: who is actually anti fascists, Yes. 48 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: Important here, one of the few non Nazis. And of 49 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 3: course we love the reason. Yes, the reason he. 50 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: Is, uh, the nemesis of this world's Peacemaker is because 51 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: he's devoutly anti fascist and they're the top trio, and 52 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: he say he wants to take Peacemaker down anyway. He 53 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: explains to our Vig what's going on. You know, it's 54 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: pretty basic, you know, Philip K. Dick type stuff. The 55 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: Nazis one World War two. 56 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: Which means this athet we were correct, yeah. 57 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: Right, And in this in this world all wealth, there's 58 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: a capitalist system, yes, but it's significantly fueled by the 59 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: slave labor of all the non white, non straight people 60 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: who have been herded into camps and there they toil 61 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 1: away in horrific conditions. I'm sure Antifa Vige has been 62 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, fightings and justice for years, as he says, 63 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: and then regular Vig is like, oh yeah, wait a second, 64 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: I can't remember the black woman. An think the vision 65 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: is like, we okay, we have to go get her 66 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: right now because she's a tremendous danger. She is being 67 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: chased down the street Captain Triumph. Also in that mob, 68 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: Blue Dragon calls him and is like, listen, whatever you're doing, 69 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: leave that because I need you back home right now. 70 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: And he's like really, but I'm in the middle. So 71 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: he's like, no, no, no, you got to come here. 72 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: And we see that Blue Dragon has Economists taped to 73 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: a chair and he has him holding a block of 74 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: C four in one hand and like the trigger in 75 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: the other hand, so he has to keep a hold 76 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: on that grip or else you know what, He's gonna 77 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: blow up. But also Blue Dragon's gonna blow but he's 78 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: in the power suit. I don't know. Yeah, I got it. 79 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: I gotta say. 80 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: John Economus as a character, Steve Age, You're great, we 81 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: love you. We had you on the Pology. 82 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: Amazing. 83 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 3: John Economus is a character I was always doing so 84 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 3: much TV yelling this episode like this motherfucker has never 85 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: been loyal in his life, Like this guy is the 86 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 3: easiest to go guy, like he is gonna just give 87 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: up his friends any case. And it was frustrating to 88 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: watch now it does he love them, yes, but he's useless. 89 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 4: He's just incapable of shutting the fuck up at any 90 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 4: given time. 91 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, does he really give them up though 92 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like, well, there's been many times 93 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: over the course of this season that he could have 94 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: given them up in a significant ways, and yet he 95 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: works when not confronted. Behind the scenes, he is working 96 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: to save them and doing different things to save them. 97 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: It's just when you put him under pressure exactly, that's 98 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: the problem. Well, I mean he's a back where he's 99 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: an office guy. He's not he should be in the office. 100 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: And he's self aware. He's admitted multiple times this season 101 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 4: he has social deficiency. 102 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: So I actually think it's a very interesting character, aw 103 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: because this whole season has been about you know, loyalty 104 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: and kind of finding your own place, and I think 105 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: is very bad for us to have a character who 106 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: really doesn't have that and doesn't act as you would 107 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: expect the kind of heroic character to act, like when 108 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: you know. 109 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: Captain Triumph and Blue Dragon a kind. 110 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: Of you know, have him there with the two are 111 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: the characters that end up there. Like he just will 112 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 3: constantly be like, I wasn't involved, I wasn't there, Like 113 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: you know, it's he can't help it. 114 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: He can't even make himself look good. 115 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, he can't Ad flees over fences, through backyards 116 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: and finally into his swing pool. She swims to the 117 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: end of the swiming pool. The Nazis are on her tail, 118 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: almost like like Nazis zombies from Call of Dude. 119 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: Yes, it's very intense, and as. 120 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: She comes to the edge of the pool, Judo Master 121 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: is there, pulls her out of the pool and then 122 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: cooks the Nazis with a down electric cable and he 123 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: and Ad and then we get to enjoy the dead 124 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: bodies of the Nazis and the broiling ramen water for 125 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: a moment, and then they escape. In the lobby of Argusts, 126 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: Chris activates his pack to get he and Hardcourt out there. 127 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: Heavily can cuss, I'm sure, but they managed to get 128 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: on the peace cycle and get away. Triumph arrives home 129 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: to this bizarre scene of economists taped to a chair 130 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: and his dad and Economists is just again blaming. He's like, 131 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just like a common thief. No, actually, 132 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Wade. I'm a guy from another dimension and 133 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm really sorry. Uh, you know, I'm from that dimension 134 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: where you know, Mike Chris killed your Chris and is 135 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: currently impersonating him, and I'm so sorry about that loose 136 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: Blue Dragon, but they would have figured that yeah, yeah, 137 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: I mean, Blue Dragon tells Triumph listen, I'm sorry to 138 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: tell you this, but your brother is dead. I will say. 139 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: Before we get we'll talk about this further. I love 140 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: that in every dimension Chris is dad basically doesn't give 141 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: a shit about. 142 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: But come on, I'm so excited to talk more about 143 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: that because I do think that the choices they make 144 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: with Blue Dragon hair, it's. 145 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: So pretty interesting, very very interesting. Okay, so, uh eaglely 146 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: walks in Economists is like, hey, go kill the Nazi 147 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: versions of Chris's family, and uh Dragon meanwhile is telling 148 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: Captain Triumph that, you know, we'll be in big trouble 149 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: because apparently nobody knows about this portal. If Chris happens 150 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: to tell Argusts or anybody about this portal, like, well, 151 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: we're going to be in big trouble. We have to 152 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: stop him. So Triumph realizes in that moment that wait, 153 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: you know what, I think hardcore is also no Nazi. 154 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: She's wearing pants, which, by the way, again another great 155 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: bit of seeding by James Gunn. 156 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 3: The older women in the Nazi world, these kind of 157 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 3: flower see florally outfits. 158 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: We saw other Amelia like that. 159 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: I think this is just such good storytelling that all 160 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: pays off in a really interesting. 161 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: It's great way. 162 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: And also the pants joke is so funny because they 163 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: just do it for too long. They both keep being 164 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 3: shocked she's wearing pants, and it kind of like it 165 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: keeps going almost too long. 166 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: But and it's it's perfect. This is a really great episode. 167 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: So Judo brings out a Bio to a house that 168 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: he's been hiding out in that he broke into. It's 169 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: got a lot of snacks, awesome. He is like, we 170 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: need to get out of here. We need to get 171 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: back to that portal, you know, the portal code. She doesn't. 172 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: He also explains like we're in a world where the 173 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: nazis one. I've been reading all these books, and he 174 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: and ade Bio basically smashed their beef, you know, at 175 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: a Bio tasered him multiple times and him having to 176 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, go up against the eleven street kids in 177 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: ways in which he's usually lost. He's like, I'm willing 178 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: to smash all of that so we can just like 179 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: get out of here. 180 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: I will say we were right. 181 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: That's what we were right for us because we definitely 182 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 3: guess that Judo would end up saving ads and that. 183 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love this. 184 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: I think Judo Master this is maybe his best episode, 185 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: and I love the characterization here and it's so funny. 186 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: And I'm so excited to see more. 187 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: I love that this is another thing kind of like 188 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 3: with Mantis, where James Gunn did a representation of a 189 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: character in the first season where a bunch of people. 190 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: Were like, Eh, why do you always. 191 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 3: Do your characters like this, Like why is Mantis a 192 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: silent strong you know, it's very tropy when it comes 193 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: to way like Asian women are represented. And I think 194 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 3: with Judo Master, there was definitely a conversation about him 195 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 3: being like a nerve character or being like a butt 196 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: of the joke, and I love that James Gunn has 197 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: the capacity to listen to that and change it. 198 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: And I think this. 199 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 3: Episode is really a strong Judo Master episode, and I'm 200 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: very excited to see him clearly in whatever goes forward 201 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 3: being part of the eleventh Street Kids. 202 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Judo then breaks out a scrabble set. Scrabble call it. 203 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: They call it scrabble here, but it actually makes a 204 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: lot of sense when you get into it. And then 205 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: he proceeds to wipe the board with Atebaio. Peacemaker and 206 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: Harcourt enjoy a tender moment on the back of his 207 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: stolen motorcycle while the cops are in pursuit, you know, 208 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: enjoying the feel of each other's bodies against each other. 209 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: It's very heartwarming. Cops eventually close in on them and 210 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: surround them. But Blue Dragon and tryump and gun down 211 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: like fifteen and the number is exactly fifteen cops in 212 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: that moment, and and say you got to come with 213 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,239 Speaker 1: us and Bordeaux. 214 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: When was the last time on TV you saw two 215 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 3: superheroes blowing up cop cause. 216 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 2: Question, it's been a while. 217 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 3: I mean, Wakanda Forever is probably my the lost time 218 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: I saw like the cops lived. 219 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this is Nazi cops though, yeah, I. 220 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: Would say that. 221 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: In Black Panther two, you may be surprised if you 222 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: watch the scene where more first appears and you see 223 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 3: really trying to learn how to use the suit with 224 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: Sherry and trying to escape, you may be surprised at 225 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: how many cop cars get blown up and flipped over 226 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: on that bridge in Oakland, I remember being distinctly impressed 227 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: by it. 228 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 2: But I think, yeah, you know, I. 229 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: Think that there is an esthetic and qualitative difference between 230 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: you blow up the you know, it's the G I. 231 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: Joe issue. You see the plane blow up and the 232 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: parachute come out, and sometimes, you know, you see the 233 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: plane blow up and you just imagine that the parachute. Yes, yes, 234 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: this is like there are like machine gunning, like they're falling. 235 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 236 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: Senior and Bordeaux pull former Luther minion Sidney Happerson out 237 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: of prison and he is going to be the point 238 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: person for find the portal. They set him up in 239 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: Luther's mobile headquarters from Superman, and he asks, I think 240 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: a very important question, just like what do I get? 241 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: Do I get moved? Do I get like something? And 242 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: Seniors like, no, I I'll just go back to Luther 243 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: and say that you didn't want to do it. And 244 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: so that's enough for Sydney. And Sydney like immediately finds 245 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: the portal, like he justs on the machines and it's 246 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: like right there, oh there it is. 247 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: It's and. 248 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: He notes from the strength and the and the quality 249 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: of the signal that oh, you know, this is clearly 250 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: like a better design than our Lex Corp. A multidimensional portal. 251 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: Like our portal was always picking up weird interdimensional shiite. 252 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: This one seems very very yeah, this one's very stable, 253 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: So they send the coordinates the florry. Ada and Judo 254 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: and the Nazi dimension are talking about Leo Dad's wife 255 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: and ex wife relationship with her, and Judo makes a 256 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: good point that hey, maybe it's actually your fault, like 257 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: you're the one who changed the whole deal on the 258 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: you know, you were supposed to open the store and 259 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: now you want to be like a soldier for hire, 260 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: and maybe it's it might be actually your fault. Then 261 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: Chris comes up and Juda masters like, I, well that 262 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: guy I still hate. We are good, but that guy 263 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: is a piece of shit, big time, Like and here's 264 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: all the reasons, and the reasons are absolutely valid. But 265 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: Ada is like, listen, he's changed, he is, he's got 266 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: a good heart. Some of the stuff that he's turned 267 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: me onto actually turned out to be good. And she's 268 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: and he's my best friend also, so like you're gonna 269 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: have to just get over it with him. I'm vouching 270 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: for him and give him a try. He's a good guy. 271 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: And then Judo's like why was he living in Nazi 272 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: world and like having a great time here, and Adam 273 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: I was like, again, he's a cool guy. I think 274 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: she said to him. 275 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: She said to him, like she said I said. I 276 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: think she said, I said he's cool, not small thing. 277 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, he's fucking dumb. We get it. 278 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: So it night falls and it's time to escape back 279 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: to the mansion to get into the portal. They begin 280 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: doing that. Back at the house, Dragon and Triumph come 281 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: in with Chris and Harcourt. There's economists. Dragon is like, listen, 282 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: I need to know everything. I need to know why 283 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: you're here. I need to know how you came here, 284 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: and I need to know how many people you came 285 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: here with. Chris is like it was a total accident. 286 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: I was drunk. I was freaked out by how everything's 287 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: different but the same. I didn't mean to kill your son, 288 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: but like he had a gun on my head and 289 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: it just was instinct and it happened. Triumph is like seething, 290 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: He's can't you barely hold it together? And Dragon is 291 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: constantly having to be like chill. 292 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 3: The fuck, like, come on, calm down, Dragon surprisingly chilled out. 293 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: More chill of more chilled out. So he then is like, well, 294 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: why'd you come back? Why? You know, like you came 295 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: out here, you saw it, and then you came back 296 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: and tried to live here. Why And Chris is like, 297 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, in my world my dad 298 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: and my brother are dead, and my brother dying was 299 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: like with extremely traumatic moment, and just to be part 300 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: of a family it felt great. Dragon asks Harcourt, how 301 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: many did you come here with? But before they can 302 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: really get into that, there's a knock and Dragon leaves 303 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: Triumph alone with our friends to go inswer the door, 304 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: and it's the cops and they're like, listen, have you 305 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: seen Peacemaker. No, well he's wanted in connection with the 306 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: machine gunning of fifteen cops recently. And Dragon's like, well, listen, 307 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: this might be Nazi world, but there are laws, at 308 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: least for the white men. 309 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 4: So get off. 310 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: Want to come in here, Get off my fucking lawn 311 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: and come back with with a warrant. Judo an ad 312 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: are watching, like all these cops milling around and the like, 313 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: how are you gonna get through these guys? But then 314 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: the Viges show up Hey, the Viges and Judo Master 315 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: immediately begin beefing. Once again. Ad has to calm them 316 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: down and be like, listen, he's helping me. He's cool. 317 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: What do we do about these cops? Okay, let's kill 318 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: all the cops. Inside, Dragon is questioning everybody about the Alts. 319 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: When the all the Alts show up, they have to 320 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: go back to their world and never come back. He 321 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: makes that very clear, don't you even never come back? 322 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: He doesn't really care that his son got killed, which 323 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: Triumph is very very upset about, and clearly that's going 324 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: to be an ongoing issue. And again this is where 325 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: it really hit home for me that like, wow, it's 326 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: actually crazy that perhaps that in this world too, and 327 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: perhaps in many worlds, Chris's dad just does not give 328 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: a shit, like in a meaningful way, he likes him enough, even. 329 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 3: In a world where seemingly because there's a really I 330 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: think there's a very interesting moment that they they kind 331 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: of slide in here where earlier on they're talking about 332 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: how he had actually met the Dragon from the main DCU, 333 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 3: like Prime DCU, and how he'd felt like he was 334 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 3: really cruel and evil, and so I think that the 335 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 3: notion here is Yeah, no matter what version of Blue 336 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: Dragon it is, he always hates Chris because whatever version 337 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 3: of Chris it is isn't the right Chris, you know, 338 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 3: which is like such a depressing thing to think. It's 339 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 3: basically like what if the Scarlet which storyline from the 340 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,239 Speaker 3: MCU was inverted and it was like, what if your 341 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: parents hated you in every universe instead of your mom 342 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 3: trying to find you in every universe. Also, let me 343 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 3: ask you guys this here we get the moment where 344 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: Blue Dragon says, don't call me a Nazi. 345 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: The Nazi. 346 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: Let me just talk about it. Let me yeah, let 347 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: me just describe the scenes. So they're like, well, this 348 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: is Nazi world and you're a Nazi and stuff. And 349 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: he's like, ah, don't call me that. I hate what's 350 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: going on here. I'll let you know back, I don't 351 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: like it, and he and he pushes back pretty strongly 352 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: on the idea that he is a supporter of this. 353 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: Now I agree with you. I think, like, listen, are 354 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: there people just like in our world? Are there people 355 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: who like disagree who live in countries that you know, 356 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: you have to always make a distinction between the government, 357 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: political the yeah, the political system of a place and 358 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: the people that said he is part of the top 359 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: trio in the world. You know. 360 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 4: It is interesting though, because he says in response to that, 361 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 4: he's like, well, I don't know about in your perfect world, 362 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 4: but like here, you know, do you like stop every 363 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 4: single injustice in your world? That's like, okay, that's a 364 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 4: fair point, Like there is no perfect conversation the world 365 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 4: run by not He's a pretty big one, you know. 366 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: I think it's an important I do think it's an 367 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: important conversation because he brings up some good points and 368 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: a certain point. You know, if you're gonna make these big, 369 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: sweeping statements that are on their face probably true, you're 370 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: gonna have to reckon with the fact that some people 371 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: are gonna get dropped into a bucket that maybe don't 372 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: believe Blunger and that's it to look at the and 373 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: we don't know what, you know, it seems like the 374 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: what we've seen of the top Trio is they're fighting Kaijus. 375 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: They're not like on concentration camp duty, you know what 376 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: I mean? 377 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 3: Like, actually, you make a good point because there's a 378 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 3: moment where when he's explaining that he's chasing off the 379 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 3: ads because he thought one of them got out. That's 380 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: Captain Triumph who said that his dad is like, what 381 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 3: the fuck is wrong with you? Like, we don't do that, 382 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: That's like not our job. So they obviously feel like 383 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 3: that separation is keeping them. And we also get a 384 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 3: moment here where Blue Dragon talks about how clearly like 385 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: the cops are corrupted. He doesn't mind lying about the cops. 386 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 3: He's not gonna hand him over. It's an unexpectedly complex. 387 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: And I think we're meant to wonder if if having 388 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: power in this world, but kind of like not doing 389 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: anything about the stuff that you see is wrong, is 390 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: does that make you a Nazier? Not? I personally, I 391 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: kind of feel like, listen, you're the top team, you're 392 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: the top trio. Your son was chasing a black woman 393 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: down the street because he thought one of them got out. Exactly, 394 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: you don't even have influence with him, and in fact, 395 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: you're like walking around and enjoying the fruits of the 396 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: system without ever actually challenging. And I don't know, it 397 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: kind of feels like it's Nazist hit. 398 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 3: It's the Regina Jackson quote where it's like, if there's 399 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 3: a Nazi at the table and ten other people are 400 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 3: sitting there talking to him. 401 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 2: You've got a table with eleven Nazis, you know. 402 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 3: So it's like, if you're upholding a Nazi situate society 403 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 3: with your actions rather than being part of the Sons 404 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 3: of Liberty or being part of you know, Vigi's like 405 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 3: actively anti fascist situation, then yeah, I think it would 406 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 3: be fair to say they're Nazis or at least up 407 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 3: holding the Nazi. 408 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: I mean they work in a building with Hitler painted 409 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: on the wall. 410 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: Well the only Chris, but Captain Triumph and Blue Dragon 411 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: were easy. 412 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: They were allowed to just like go in there, so 413 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: August like knows of them. 414 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yes, listen, it's complex. I'm I come 415 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: down on the side of you know, Nazi enough for me, 416 00:22:53,200 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: one drop. So we get this really interesting and complex 417 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: conversation in which we find out that Blue Dragon actually 418 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: is really and we don't have I would also stress 419 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: that we didn't have time to go through Okay, like 420 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: what about this belief? Okay, what about this one? Okay, 421 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: what about this guy? I think there's probably significant overlap 422 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: despite Blue Dragons objections. That said, Chris the eaglely comes 423 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 1: in and there's a big fight, and the cops are 424 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: also there, so there's this huge like melee. The cops 425 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: are getting killed, Eaglely is pecking people and everybody's all 426 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: our heroes are trying to escape through the big portal. 427 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: Before you know, all this gets too far out of 428 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: hand and Chris is like being led there by Harcart. 429 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: He's almost there when Captain Triumph bursts through the wall 430 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: and starts like beating the shit out of him. All 431 00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: Chris's friends grab him eagerly is like shreading, yeah, people 432 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: like stabbing yea the like in the like. 433 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 4: Right as he's wrapping up this like I'm not a 434 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 4: Nazi speech, he just Fitch jumps through the window and 435 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 4: stabs him in the neck, like like oh ship yeah. 436 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: And Chris has this epiphany of the violence of his 437 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: upbringing and he's seen his brother die in his dimension. 438 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: Now he's seeing his brother, though a Nazi, die in 439 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: this dimension and he's like stop it, just stop. Let's 440 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: just leave leave him alone, all this violence like it's 441 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm the common denominator, and he just like breaks down. 442 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: It's a very it's a it's a heartbreaking moment. They 443 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: all escape out of the portal Altvig stays there because 444 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: he wants to fight the Nazis. Harcourt is like, give 445 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: me your gun so I can execute Captain Triumph because 446 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna come for revenge. That's going to be bad. 447 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: And but before she can do that, she's interrupted by 448 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: like the continuing cop fight, and they go back close 449 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: up the portal. Just as Argus is arriving outside of 450 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: Vig's mom's house, Chris folds up the portal, goes out front, 451 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: hands the portal over to Senior and is like, Okay, 452 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: they made me give it to you, so they are 453 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: the heroes here. They've done nothing wrong. I'm under arrest 454 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: and I'll see you later. H Judo Master of course, 455 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: stands with Argus and they take Chris in and uh 456 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: and judging by the things that some of the interviews 457 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: I've seen, I think we might end this this season 458 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: probably will end with Chris in jail. 459 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: Yah. 460 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I think. So also as well, we do. 461 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 3: We did have that really interesting conversation with James Gunn 462 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 3: recently in the press why he was saying that the 463 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: story is going to continue, but it's not necessarily going 464 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 3: to be peace Maker season three. So I think that's 465 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 3: really interesting and adds to that, we also do get 466 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 3: a final moment of Captain Triumph being pulled into the 467 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 3: ambulance and saved, and it's clear that whatever happens next 468 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 3: in the kind of DCU James Gunn Superman Verse, Captain 469 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: Triumph will be returning to hunt Down because really, Chris 470 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: did come in then just like kill his whole family. 471 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: It's like, I get why he's upset. You know, it's 472 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: hard to care that much. Yeah, don't be an understanding. 473 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: I do understand why he's upset. Yeah, Okay, let's talk 474 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: about this episode because I think, oh, let's go to 475 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: a quick break and then we right back and we'll 476 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: talk about this episode. And we're back wild and super 477 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: fun and really like heartfelt episode. So I think they did. 478 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: I think they did great work in remaining loyal to 479 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: like the central kind of friction with Chris, which is 480 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: his struggle to be less of an asshole. 481 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 4: And she's a desire for acceptance. 482 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, and his questioning of why bad stuff seems to 483 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: follow him, you know, violence et cetera seems to follow 484 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: him everywhere, and you know that moment where He's like, no, no, 485 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: don't kill Captain Triumph, you know, like, don't stop. This 486 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: I thought was really effective and really earned. Just certainly 487 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: you want to see this guy get killed. 488 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Ian, how, how do you feel 489 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 3: like the payoff was up? Seeing as you were the 490 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 3: one who clocked this, Like, do you feel like this 491 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 3: episode lived up to the theories, to the fan kind 492 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: of recognition of the fact that this was going to 493 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 3: be a white supremacist wild like. 494 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: That's a hard thing to pull. Do you feel like 495 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: this episode pulled it off? 496 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 4: I do. I think it did. I think James Gunn 497 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 4: did a great job of, you know, threading all the 498 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 4: little callbacks in little hints and making it all come 499 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 4: together cohesively. And one thing that I really loved about 500 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 4: it was our Court and Judah Master immediately both calling 501 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 4: it out like how could Chris not notice all this stuff? 502 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 4: Which I thought was really hilarious, but also like out 503 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 4: of Bio's explanation or justification. I thought, on the face 504 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 4: of it, like it, I get it, it's sweet, it 505 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 4: makes sense, but like also it's like is that enough? 506 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 4: Like is that good enough? Like oh yeah, yeah, He's like, 507 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 4: once you get past the cheesy stuff. He's actually a 508 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 4: really sweet guy. He's changed, you know, he's just kind 509 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 4: of dumb, and like even Judah Master was like yeah, 510 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 4: but like he still how could he have like not 511 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 4: noticed and like chosen to live here? And she was like, yeah, 512 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 4: that's a good point. And then they kind of just leave. 513 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: It there and they don't really dig deeper. So it's like, 514 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: I will say that, while I love the Hitler mural joke, 515 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: it did threaten to kind of blow up that part 516 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: of that this like interior reality, the fiction of because it, 517 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: while a hilarious gag, it is the one thing where 518 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: you're like, how did you I feel like if you 519 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: walk into a room with a huge picture of Hitler's 520 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: going to be yeah, and and and again there's also 521 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: the fact that Harcourt Real Hardcourt didn't see it, never 522 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: mentioned it before that moment, so it feels like a weird, 523 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: unrealistic moment that plays. But it's also like it's a 524 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: joke that you I wonder if they talked about not 525 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: including it, because it does kind of threaten to blow 526 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: the whole premise of he's a good guy, just dumb. 527 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: Yeah he doesn't, he just doesn't notice stuff. You know, 528 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,239 Speaker 1: I agree that at a Bio's. I kind of liked 529 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: that conversation because it's like, you know, you can't expect 530 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: people to be errordite all the time, so much of 531 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: life just kind of boils down to Yeah, but I 532 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: like that guy. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like 533 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: mm hmmm, Like despite all the he's good to me, 534 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: he's nice when you get to know him. 535 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 3: Okay, So another thing I was really impressed with this 536 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 3: episode was the way that they so easily and smartly 537 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 3: and kind of with the just absolute slickness, just built 538 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 3: in more Superman. 539 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: World and Lord felt so organic and smooth, so good. 540 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 3: And my understanding is that's because they were basically filming 541 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 3: them at the same time, so they were able. 542 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: To use the sets. 543 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: I loved seeing Sydney Happerson because I love a weird 544 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 3: character who's been in like five issues, weird character, but 545 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 3: he was so funny in Superman, so I was legitimately 546 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: excited to see him come back. 547 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 2: And then when they walked into. 548 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: The command center, I was like, Okay, James Gunn is 549 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 3: doing this on a different levels. 550 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 2: No, he's cooking. He planned it, he understands the needs. 551 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 3: There's no like weird volume or like bad green screening 552 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 3: people back in. 553 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: It feels so intertwined. 554 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 3: And I would say, I think it's gonna you know, 555 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 3: we got one more episode left. But currently this is 556 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 3: just such an incredible and successful kind of proof of 557 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: concept for why you let this man be in charge 558 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 3: of this universe. 559 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, having one singular creative visionary guiding the whole ship, 560 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 4: and not to say that, you know, not to compare 561 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 4: it to Marvel, but we are going to compare it. 562 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 4: You know, Kevin Feige is the overarching visionary. But again, 563 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 4: it's when you have so many different writers and directors 564 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 4: and people bringing their own spin to each project, it's 565 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 4: hard to maintain this level of connectivity and quality control. 566 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 4: And James Gunn is really, as you said, like putting 567 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 4: on a masterclass and how to connect all these different 568 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 4: properties and entries. It feels like we're just watching one, 569 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 4: you know, story unfolding. Like the connections between this and 570 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 4: Superman are just so natural and organic. And I think 571 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 4: part of that is to the point you may do, 572 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 4: to the fact that they were filmed at the same time. 573 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 4: He wrote both of them, So it just feels so 574 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 4: organic and seamless in a way where it's just, like 575 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 4: I said, you feel like you're just watching one long story, 576 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 4: which is I think how it should be. So yeah, 577 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 4: I think he's he's he's cooking, he's doing a great job. 578 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: What what does this show become without Chris if we 579 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: assume that? And it seems like from everything we're reading 580 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: and certainly by this episode, that it seems like Chris 581 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: is gonna be taken off the board. He's gonna go 582 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: to Bell Reeve and probably be locked in there for 583 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: a while until they need him for some story thing 584 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: and they get their contract stuff, and so like, what 585 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: does this show become like? Who I would imagine the 586 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: lineup is going to be, you know, Judo Master ad 587 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: economists eagerly question Mark, Yeah, Harcourt, Yeah, Vigeon Harcourt, And 588 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: so what does that show look like? 589 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 3: I think that there is a world where they've really 590 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 3: pushed this kind of Eleventh Street Kids. 591 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 2: Thing, So there's definitely a space where they kind of 592 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 2: have that. 593 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 3: I would also love to see them do a season 594 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 3: where they're grappling with not having Chris while also trying 595 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 3: to work out how to break him out of August 596 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 3: or something. 597 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 2: Some kind of heist. But I also think that as the. 598 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 3: World broadens, I'm glad that some of this stuff is 599 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 3: being moved around, Like I want to see more Judo 600 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 3: Master and ads. I want to see the fact that 601 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 3: they obviously set up some kind of like prints. 602 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: In the Pauper Bdge swap. That's like my biggest prediction 603 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 2: for the Phinalen. 604 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: Talk about it. 605 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 4: I think so just because they were both mast the 606 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 4: whole time. There were a lot of scenes where they 607 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 4: were both interacting quick cuts. You're like, which one you know? 608 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 4: Which one kicked through the door? 609 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: I think that's and they did. They were definitely playing 610 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 1: with me during the fight, Like there was that moment 611 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: where a Vige gets takes several bullets into their was 612 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: and you're not sure which one, and like, I think 613 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: it was at a bios like a and then you're like, 614 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: is it even that? 615 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 2: What I know because think about it. 616 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: But the but when they go through the portal, the 617 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: Vig that I assumed to be the Vig from that 618 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: universe does that little like salute and then kicks the 619 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: door closed. I don't. 620 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 3: I think Bitch loves to kill Nazis, and I think 621 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 3: they might have been like, wouldn't it be cool to 622 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 3: just like see each other as well? And then, especially 623 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 3: in that lost moment, he's like, yeah, I'll stay by 624 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 3: and kill the Nazis. You know, I haven't gone to 625 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 3: kill this many Nazis since blah blah blah. So I 626 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 3: think they're at least going to play into it, especially 627 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 3: because Freddy did such a funny, good job and they 628 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 3: were basically exactly the same character. 629 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: So I guess we'll see in the finale where that goes. 630 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 3: And I'm also interested in what the portal is going 631 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 3: to mean for August, because first they wanted to shut 632 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 3: it down so that it wasn't creating a rift like 633 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 3: we saw in Superman. But it's very clear that Senia 634 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 3: and his cyborgs lover maybe lover. 635 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 2: Now they have an agenda and an ulterior motive. 636 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 3: So I would love to see if the finale really 637 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 3: explodes outwards and kind of sets up what we're going 638 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 3: to see in Lanterns or Man of Tomorrow. 639 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: I think so. 640 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. 641 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 4: Basically one thing I wanted to based on the preview 642 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 4: at the end of the episode, we see for for 643 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 4: the finale, Argus is going to be using the portals 644 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 4: to look for something. They're going to try to catalog 645 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 4: and explore these ninety nine other dimensions, and so I 646 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 4: think what's gonna end up happening is they're going to 647 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 4: find something or unleash something that maybe they weren't expecting 648 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 4: or they can't control, and that's maybe going to set 649 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 4: up a conflict for one of these future titles, because 650 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 4: I think that's that's a smart way to use this 651 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 4: like multiverse concept in a different way than how Marvel 652 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 4: is doing it. And I mean, yeah, I just feel 653 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 4: like that's kind of your classical government tampering if unleasha 654 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 4: power they can't control kind of thing. 655 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I wanted to call out. I wanted to 656 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: call out a couple of people on a Blue Sky 657 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 1: who pointed out the previous episode, Rob Federici, who pointed 658 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: out that when Vig is going through Anti Antifa Vige's 659 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: house and he sees his parents and he's like, oh 660 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: my god, my dad's not gay here. That actually his 661 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: dad probably is gay. 662 00:36:51,920 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 2: He's just he's That's that is a great that's a 663 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 2: good catch. 664 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:02,720 Speaker 1: Sorry, go ahead, Rosie. 665 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, I love I love that so much. 666 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 3: I was just gonna say like, how do you think that. 667 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 2: Gun and Co and DC. 668 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 3: Right now we have Creature Commandos, we have Superman, and 669 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 3: we have Peacemaker and so far, and obviously we know 670 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 3: he's bringing stuff in from the Suicide Squad, which I love. 671 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 2: But like, so far, it's a relatively small pool. 672 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 3: How much harder and how much do you think we're 673 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 3: gonna see the way that James Gunn is changing this 674 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 3: stuff when we add Supergirl to the mix next year, 675 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 3: when we add Lantern, Suddenly there's gonna be a lot 676 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 3: more continuity and connectivity that we need to work on. Ian, 677 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 3: do you have any feelings, like do you think he 678 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 3: could end up in a situation where it kind of 679 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 3: spreads too thin? Or you think that from this you're 680 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 3: really seeing a path for him to continue this no 681 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 3: matter how big the world gets. 682 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 4: I so, as of right now, I'm feeling fairly confident 683 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 4: of how this is unfolding and where it's going. It 684 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 4: clearly has a plan and a vision. The way each 685 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,919 Speaker 4: piece is kind of smoothly led into the next so far, 686 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 4: I think feels good. But I think introducing Batman and 687 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 4: that whole side of the universe will be very interesting 688 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 4: to see how that gets incorporated into what is already existing, 689 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 4: because so far everything does feel on a larger, kind 690 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 4: of more cosmic alien scale. 691 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 2: You know, such a good point. 692 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 3: Actually, it's it's all very big, big, big explosives, big 693 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 3: alien so. 694 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 4: Like Lanterns, that feels like that will kind of slot 695 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 4: in nicely because that's their space cops. There's already kind 696 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 4: of that built in alien aspect to it. But when 697 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 4: we do some maybe smaller stories or get to more 698 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 4: intimate corners of this universe, like a story set just 699 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 4: in Gotham or something, you know, well, clay Face, you know, 700 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 4: which is a great point that Joelle just brought up. 701 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 4: That's going to be what I assumes a smaller scale, 702 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 4: more horror leaning, you know, film, Like, how does that 703 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 4: kind of fit into the larger verse? I think that'll 704 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 4: really be what the moment that we'll see. We'll see 705 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 4: if he has the juice, if he can pull it off, 706 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 4: so be very curious. 707 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: Well I go, I go weirdly in a different direction 708 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: in that I feel like James's got the juice, and 709 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: but I'm really interested to see what happens when we 710 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 1: start bringing in Glanterns, things that he is not directly, 711 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: show running, directing, et cetera. And do we maintain that 712 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: connectivity as you start necessarily delegating out these other projects 713 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: to other people, Because I think right now it's I'm 714 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: not going to say it's easy. He's doing incredible work. 715 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: It's it's hard, but it's easier to keep everything connected 716 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: when you are the person creating all this. What happens 717 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: when you start bringing in other people, And so that's 718 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: what I'm really fascinated to see, like do we do 719 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: does it all feel as seamless as it feels, you know, 720 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: right now, which is pretty seamless. 721 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great point. Yeah, I mean I think, yeah, 722 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 4: so super Girl will be the first one that he 723 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 4: did not right himself from right now sinking, so that 724 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 4: that's what's coming up next to It'll be interesting to see, 725 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 4: you know, what what happens with these next projects to 726 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 4: your point, Jason, So yeah, I don't know. 727 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be interesting. I can't wait for the finale, 728 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: Free Chris. On the next episode of Extra Vision, we're 729 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: diving into the depths of serial killers on TV. 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