Speaker 1: This life was all I ever wanted. I'm not leaving,
Speaker 1: not yet. I was hoping you can say that you
Speaker 1: gotta hit the streets make some money, maybe like us
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Speaker 1: Smoke just getting started, Baby, just getting started. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to a special quarantine edition of All the Smoke. Jack.
Speaker 1: What's up, bro, my brother? How you doing out there? Man? Hey, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm starting to lose my mind in here. Man. What
Speaker 1: you're doing? Is it? Is it happening? I'm good man
Speaker 1: to be honest, like I said, I love it, man.
Speaker 1: I love to be able to sit kicking with the
Speaker 1: But just had all three boys last week, and although
Speaker 1: it's crazy because I'm at a point where I love
Speaker 1: having them, but by the end of the week, twins
Speaker 1: and a little man running everywhere, I'm drained. So as
Speaker 1: soon as those motherfucker's leave on Monday, I'm like yes.
Speaker 1: But then as soon as they leave and I go
Speaker 1: lay on my bedroom like, damn, where my homies at?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So it's like that, So
Speaker 1: now I already missed them. But it's good man, I'm
Speaker 1: happy we'll still being able to shoot the show. That's
Speaker 1: been a blessing. Everybody's really been working with what we're doing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the best part. A lot of people saying we've
Speaker 1: been saving them, but just y'all just don't know this show.
Speaker 1: I'm saving us. To have been able to continue to
Speaker 1: do what we gotta do and get this content. It's
Speaker 1: been a blessed for everybody. So let's keep this thing rocket.
Speaker 1: And I was also comingment you on your motherfucking you're
Speaker 1: great on your beard is looking spectacular. I thought you
Speaker 1: had some some product in there. You said, that's just natural,
Speaker 1: that's all natural. But it's you know what's that's why
Speaker 1: something wrong? How's my face? Your hair better than my
Speaker 1: actual hair on my head? I don't know how that works.
Speaker 1: It's tough. Appreciate that you gave me on the show too.
Speaker 1: You have no problem because my to be fine. I
Speaker 1: love key get Jael because I can't really grow. Shoot,
Speaker 1: I looked like uh, people say, I look like a
Speaker 1: dirty Mexican. When my ships started growing in patches and
Speaker 1: thick right here. What the dude say last night? What
Speaker 1: do he called my ship? Uh? He said? He said
Speaker 1: he said, you looking like uh captain, the captain of
Speaker 1: the Budapest soccer team. And he was Baron David's happy
Speaker 1: shout out, Baron David's happy birthday. Bro, he's on this live,
Speaker 1: He's on his zoom party. Last night, he had these
Speaker 1: motherfucking comedians. Bro. When I tell you, everybody that came
Speaker 1: into the chat, they roasting, but no one had any
Speaker 1: idea what was going on. So I was one of
Speaker 1: the last motherfucker's to come on the chat, and I
Speaker 1: got like three niggas just shooting at me. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to dude. I just got
Speaker 1: rid of my kids. I'm ready to smoke and relax.
Speaker 1: I just got these motherfucker's coming at me left the right.
Speaker 1: I'm like, who the funk are these niggas. I'm one
Speaker 1: of them, you know. But they was onest that mont member.
Speaker 1: They was talking about Monte's edge of the Monte go
Speaker 1: play with somebody else. Everybody E play with everybody else
Speaker 1: to play with. But anyway, man, we got a special guest, uh,
Speaker 1: someone that I funk with a lot. Because I see
Speaker 1: a lot of myself and them. I see a lot
Speaker 1: of Jackson in them. I tell people are we believe
Speaker 1: team all embodied our next guests mentality, hunger, focused, desire, fight,
Speaker 1: You can play any era right, just a motherfucking dog.
Speaker 1: I'd like to introduce my home boy, our home boy,
Speaker 1: Draymond Green. Welcome to the Welcome to the show. Appreciate
Speaker 1: the Fellers. I appreciate you all having me. I've been
Speaker 1: looking forward to this for since since Matt you first
Speaker 1: told me about the idea. I told you, like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm coming on. So I've been looking forward to this
Speaker 1: and obviously y'all spoke on times crazy, you know. So
Speaker 1: I appreciate this. Man. We know you got we got
Speaker 1: some you got some ship to get off your chest,
Speaker 1: and this is the place to do it. My brother, Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I'm bringing the smoke first and foremost. Hey, but anyway, man,
Speaker 1: how are you and your family holding up during this time? Man?
Speaker 1: We've been good. Man, It's it's honestly been Uh. It's
Speaker 1: been great for me as as both of y'all know,
Speaker 1: we're always on the road and you know, you never
Speaker 1: really get to see everything that's going on at home
Speaker 1: from you know, the way your your spouse or fiance
Speaker 1: in my case, is holding the home down. The way
Speaker 1: the kids are interacting in the home or what they're doing.
Speaker 1: You just never really get to see as much as
Speaker 1: I've been able to. So you know, it's been great
Speaker 1: just being able to spend that time with her and
Speaker 1: the kids and really being here all day every day. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's been a blessing for me. Yeah, I kind of uh,
Speaker 1: you know, equated to just kind of getting off our
Speaker 1: hamster wheel. I see, especially as a player. We were
Speaker 1: all players, but we're just always on our hands for
Speaker 1: we don't take time to smell the roses, look at
Speaker 1: the view, chill out, get to see every state, step
Speaker 1: with our kids, and like I said, unfortunately through this pandemic.
Speaker 1: You know, Jack and I have similar schedules as well.
Speaker 1: We played, and we can all agree the worst part
Speaker 1: about playing is always having to be gone and traveling,
Speaker 1: so we're always coast to coast working and ship. So
Speaker 1: I just got a chance to just like like we're
Speaker 1: talking about before, sit down, play with the twins, play
Speaker 1: with my little man, just things we cannot necessary take
Speaker 1: for granted, but we're just always on the go. We
Speaker 1: don't get a chance to enjoy. To get a chance
Speaker 1: to enjoy that. Absolutely, I'm being able to enjoy that.
Speaker 1: And then for me, uh, you know, I've just moved
Speaker 1: to San Francisco a few months ago. Like I was
Speaker 1: telling someone, I never even realized how beautiful this city was.
Speaker 1: You know, we always you know, I wake up, I'm
Speaker 1: driving to the gym, and so it's always about like
Speaker 1: getting up and getting to the gym, Like how can
Speaker 1: I get around traffic. I'm gonna take this street as
Speaker 1: opposed out one, just so I can get there faster.
Speaker 1: It's like we always running that rat race and never
Speaker 1: really just take time to sit back and look so uh,
Speaker 1: you know, from from that aspect, and then just being
Speaker 1: home with my family and actually being able to raise
Speaker 1: your kids the way you want to like see everything. Man,
Speaker 1: it's it's been cool. Well obviously under these certain he
Speaker 1: didn't want it to happen under these circumstances, but you know,
Speaker 1: everything happened for a reason, and you know there's been
Speaker 1: a blessing in disguise just being able to spend this time. Um. Luckily,
Speaker 1: before um we went into the luck there of the
Speaker 1: quarantine situation, your fiance was able to throw you a
Speaker 1: dope ass thirtieth birthday out here in l a I
Speaker 1: got to pull up. A lot of other people pulled up.
Speaker 1: Uh talk to us about being thirty now. Man, Man,
Speaker 1: it's it's dope as hell, you know, just you know,
Speaker 1: continuing to grow um and and to who I want
Speaker 1: to become as a man. You know, I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm there yet. I think it's a lot of room
Speaker 1: for growth. But you know, coming in the thirties, that
Speaker 1: kind of the other side of things. She threw a
Speaker 1: dope ass party though I've been talking to a lot
Speaker 1: of people like that was kind of our last day
Speaker 1: outside for real, no bullshit, you know, because like who
Speaker 1: was who was there from the league? I have to
Speaker 1: hear if any of these motherfucker's it was at the party?
Speaker 1: Got it? God damn it? Because I was, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean because there was a lot of Bram was there,
Speaker 1: Bookie was there, a lot of a lot of dude.
Speaker 1: Was a great Martin thing, Like this ship was dope.
Speaker 1: Jack had candy to eat everywhere. If you're a cannabis smoker,
Speaker 1: they had a little area for you. Had some dope
Speaker 1: ass performances. Like, man, this ship was live and it
Speaker 1: was like you said, it was right before lockdown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was dope. Man. I enjoyed that she did her
Speaker 1: thing on that one for sure. Man, you just you
Speaker 1: just hit me with some big words for minutes ago.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the funk you just said. What
Speaker 1: you said something about I don't equate and some ship
Speaker 1: I don't thinking equate, Like what the fact we're talking
Speaker 1: about equate? I've i've I've been trying to I've been
Speaker 1: trying to get my edge location during this lockdown. You then, man,
Speaker 1: you pucked your boy up with that. You sucked me
Speaker 1: up with that one, bro. So what does social distancing
Speaker 1: been like? Obviously we went to a point where, actually,
Speaker 1: let me rephrase that, you guys were supposed to be
Speaker 1: the first team to play um with no fans and
Speaker 1: that wasn't even a regulation from them the league. That
Speaker 1: was from the city of San Francisco. So what were
Speaker 1: the thoughts of of your team? What are you guys
Speaker 1: talking about lot them like damn, Like, we know how
Speaker 1: important fans are to the game to have to be
Speaker 1: the first team to play without what were you guys
Speaker 1: thinking during that process? Um? I mean it was kind
Speaker 1: of a shocker at first. You know, we had to
Speaker 1: we had to be with Rick Wilson, Bob Meyers, and
Speaker 1: they was kind of telling us, you know, just keeping
Speaker 1: us up to date, and they were telling us like, yo,
Speaker 1: it's a possibility that we're gonna play with no fans.
Speaker 1: About then they caught another meeting and they said, uh, like,
Speaker 1: we're one percent not going to not going to not
Speaker 1: gonna have Fast. And so we kind of went from
Speaker 1: you know, not having fans too and in a matter
Speaker 1: of finding out we weren't going to have Fast in
Speaker 1: a matter of like eight hours to them finding out
Speaker 1: that the season was canceled. But our mindset going into
Speaker 1: that game. I actually had got she Bass, one of
Speaker 1: one of my homeboys, DJ to make a dope ass playlist,
Speaker 1: like a dope ass hip by playlist and then a
Speaker 1: dope Bass top forty playlist. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We gotta incorporate everybody into it to play during the game,
Speaker 1: because it was just gonna be like open Jim, Like
Speaker 1: I was gonna was gonna try to have try to
Speaker 1: have music playing during the game. Yeah they would, like
Speaker 1: they told me to get the playlists and submitted. So
Speaker 1: I had got to playlist and I was just going
Speaker 1: to submit it and that I was sitting up sitting
Speaker 1: on the college watching TV and shipped the season got castle.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people. That's when they took took it serious. I
Speaker 1: was in New York. Jack and I were both in
Speaker 1: New York working for UH doing our show. I was
Speaker 1: doing some ESPN ship and when the NBA canceled the season,
Speaker 1: that's when it was like, oh ship. Like I was
Speaker 1: nervous flying. I wasn't nervous flying there, but when I
Speaker 1: had to I left that David. Everything went down that
Speaker 1: the season was canceled. I was nervous, like, damn, I'm
Speaker 1: on this motherfucker fly. I got kids. Like when the
Speaker 1: when Adam Silver in the NBA shut it down, knowing
Speaker 1: how big of a business it is and and how
Speaker 1: we lead the way in a lot of different areas,
Speaker 1: when they shut it down, I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: this is ship. This ship just got real. Absolutely, man,
Speaker 1: I was. I was crazy. It was kind of that
Speaker 1: first domino to fall, you know what I'm saying. Once
Speaker 1: that first domino failed and all the domino started falling.
Speaker 1: But you know, when I when I sit back, obviously
Speaker 1: we didn't have a bunch of time to think and
Speaker 1: you just sit back and really look like the NBA
Speaker 1: postponed the season, and it feels like the whole world stopped,
Speaker 1: you know it. And for me, I've just been looking
Speaker 1: at it from a standpoint of life. How much power
Speaker 1: we have as a league, how much power we have
Speaker 1: as players, like to cancel, to postpone our season and
Speaker 1: the whole world stopped. That's like, that's a big deal.
Speaker 1: It's huge. Yeah, that's that that that's real big. But
Speaker 1: to pivot back a little bit, me knowing you, I
Speaker 1: know how much you love the game, Like, we're very similar,
Speaker 1: Our games are very similar. Every time I hear people
Speaker 1: talk about like Greg pop Vich, Steve Kart talking about
Speaker 1: championship teams, they always mentioned my name and your name.
Speaker 1: You have to you gotta have a guy like that,
Speaker 1: me knowing that you want to win, not having staff,
Speaker 1: not having Clay, the challenges before all the before the
Speaker 1: season was stopped, the challenges going through this season, Tell
Speaker 1: me what that was, what that was going through that
Speaker 1: honestly for me, uh, you know, as someone like like yourself,
Speaker 1: I've won my entire career, you know what I'm saying, Like, Na,
Speaker 1: not just as an NBA player, like you know, as
Speaker 1: a basketball player, and so this season for me was different,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I had to find
Speaker 1: like little challenges within the challenge, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And so for me, my whole mindset into this season
Speaker 1: was how can I help these young guys get better?
Speaker 1: How can I help them improve? How can I help
Speaker 1: get these guys set up to make the money they
Speaker 1: want to make in this lead And so that was
Speaker 1: that was kind of that was kind of my focus. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I can go out and try to score
Speaker 1: one of a game, like that's what the world wanted
Speaker 1: me to do. I really didn't give a funk, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like that ain't me. That's not
Speaker 1: who I'm gonna be for this team. So just because
Speaker 1: the world wants me to go try to do that, like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna be who I
Speaker 1: am and try to help these young guys. If we win, great,
Speaker 1: If we don't, who fucking cares, Like, all right, we
Speaker 1: don't win for a year. It is what it is.
Speaker 1: So my whole focus was just trying to be a
Speaker 1: mentor and teach these young guys you know, because for me,
Speaker 1: like I'm in year eight and but we want a
Speaker 1: lot and so it seems like I've been in the
Speaker 1: league forever. But you know, I had like mad, I've
Speaker 1: had Jermaine O'Neil, Jared Jack, David West, size, opportunia, Sean Andre.
Speaker 1: I've always kind of been you know, yes, I've been
Speaker 1: a leader on the team, but I've always kind of
Speaker 1: been the leader of like you like the little brother that,
Speaker 1: yeah you got leadership, uh you know capabilities and you
Speaker 1: are a great leader, but you're the little brother that
Speaker 1: still got an attitude problem. Like and so I get
Speaker 1: mad at times and like fucking go off and then
Speaker 1: like one of them guys like all right, shut up,
Speaker 1: you're good now, like get back in place. I always
Speaker 1: had that, and now all of a sudden, I was
Speaker 1: kind of that guy and it was weird. It's fun
Speaker 1: with me starting this season as hell, I went from
Speaker 1: like the young guys like the better, like the super
Speaker 1: better with a bunch of But even with that saying,
Speaker 1: like you said, you came in with that mindset and focus,
Speaker 1: and you guys have found some hidden gyms, not hidden necessarily,
Speaker 1: but some gems and uh, I like pool a lot
Speaker 1: of like Pascal a lot, and I think the way
Speaker 1: I was looking at it as you guys had a dynasty.
Speaker 1: There's no if answer, butts about you guys played the
Speaker 1: most basketball probably over five year spend. Clay and Steph
Speaker 1: happened to go down, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: to me looking at like, damn, Dre is gonna have
Speaker 1: to go, and I want you to get into because
Speaker 1: I know to keep it red. The ship was tough
Speaker 1: at times. I would watch games where you get kicked
Speaker 1: out and I know it's just frustration from other things
Speaker 1: adding up. But as an outside looking in, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: your two super superstars are getting arrest You got one
Speaker 1: one of your superstars left, and he's the best mentor
Speaker 1: slash coach on the floor, so he's gonna develop these dudes.
Speaker 1: I didn't really see you guys doing that well. I
Speaker 1: think at the end of season, we think we had
Speaker 1: you guys hovering around eight considering all all factors. Um,
Speaker 1: they happen to get a lottery pick. They're well rested,
Speaker 1: and next season they're gonna be right back in the hut.
Speaker 1: You know you have now you have players you developed
Speaker 1: with talent, so you could possibly put them in a
Speaker 1: trade deal with a lottery pick. You got you Stephan
Speaker 1: Clay as the foundation. You still got some good young talent.
Speaker 1: You guys could trade and get a superstar or or
Speaker 1: draft one of these up and coming stars and be
Speaker 1: right back in the mix. Tell me, first of all,
Speaker 1: tell me about the roller coaster. It's really been as
Speaker 1: far as the frustration, because, like I said, we both
Speaker 1: know how motherfucker past you are, and losing is losing,
Speaker 1: and and now motherfucker's want to kick you in particular
Speaker 1: while you guys are down. Yeah, for me, um, you know,
Speaker 1: it was definitely tough losing. You know, like I'm going
Speaker 1: into it with the mindset up. You know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: help these young guys and do this. But I'm a competitor,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I hate losing winning,
Speaker 1: Like I just hate losing, and so, uh, you know
Speaker 1: there was times where like the mindset of all right,
Speaker 1: I'm cool, I'm just developed these young guys as a competitor,
Speaker 1: you forget that, you know what I'm saying, Because at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I'm just trying not to lose,
Speaker 1: and you know, I've obviously growing a custom to a
Speaker 1: style of play and and excellence you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that at all levels and so standard exactly. And
Speaker 1: so that was you know that it was tough at
Speaker 1: times for me, you know, where uh like I just
Speaker 1: get frustrated, you know what I'm saying, piste off with
Speaker 1: at some time, you know, trying to find that balance
Speaker 1: of getting frustrated and piste off and teaching these young guys.
Speaker 1: But then also when there's enough or nothing you need
Speaker 1: to learn this, you know what I'm saying. So that
Speaker 1: was a bit frustrating for me. And then also you know,
Speaker 1: I've been on the best team in the world for
Speaker 1: the last five years and so you you, you know,
Speaker 1: you grow accustomed to that. And I remember, like, sorry,
Speaker 1: ass teams are always saying us like yo, y'all get
Speaker 1: like calls like a motherfucking I'm like, yo, we really
Speaker 1: don't get no calls. But now being on the story
Speaker 1: this year, I saw exactly what they were talking about.
Speaker 1: Like it was almost at times like girlfriend Reese was
Speaker 1: kind of like like like the opportunity to get back,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that to tell you, and
Speaker 1: like then they'll start talking to you like you're a
Speaker 1: little ass boy, and so some of the a lot
Speaker 1: of those texts I got was just like yo, like
Speaker 1: like I'm still Draymond Green out of here, Like you
Speaker 1: ain't talking like yeah, you ain't gonna treat me like
Speaker 1: on something number. So that was kind of that was
Speaker 1: that was where a lot of those texts came from.
Speaker 1: Was just I felt like it was a lot of
Speaker 1: blatant disrespect. Yeah, yeah, there's no question. We'll get back
Speaker 1: into the season more. But we want to back track
Speaker 1: a little bit uh to how this started, because I
Speaker 1: heard some interesting stories about your recruiting process and how
Speaker 1: you committed somewhere and then you d committed when the
Speaker 1: coach left, and then some ship in Michigan and then
Speaker 1: you got in Loki got into it with is Oh
Speaker 1: and tell me what that ended up, because you ended
Speaker 1: up getting your or jersey retired just not too long
Speaker 1: ago December three of last year. Tell me about the
Speaker 1: recruiting process, and then we'll finally get to what the
Speaker 1: honor it was to have seen your jersey hung in
Speaker 1: the rafts in Michigan State. So, so the recruiting process
Speaker 1: for me was different, um a lot a lot like
Speaker 1: the NBA for me, honestly, where you know, I'm coming
Speaker 1: up and saging on, and there was there was We
Speaker 1: had a guy who's sixteen named Josh Southern Um, and
Speaker 1: we had a guy named Larry right who was Larry's
Speaker 1: about six three win could shoot the funk out of
Speaker 1: it was athletic. And so that was my sophomore year
Speaker 1: and like you have all the coaches in the country
Speaker 1: coming in to see those guys. Josh end up going
Speaker 1: to Boston College, Larry went to St. John's, and but
Speaker 1: you have Tuppy Smith time. It's all like all the
Speaker 1: coaches in the country coming through the all of the gyms,
Speaker 1: and I'm just young. I'm ninth going to Tim Grade.
Speaker 1: I'm out the Rocket, and like my high school coach
Speaker 1: would tell me, like, yo, these coaches are coming to
Speaker 1: see Josh and Larry and it's all even told me
Speaker 1: this before, but they'll leave talking about you. But at
Speaker 1: the time I'm six, I'm still six five undersize planning four.
Speaker 1: And so I would kind of just get like I
Speaker 1: started getting offers from mad majors and people, you know,
Speaker 1: you see the write ups and stuff like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: a mid major player at best, and all of this.
Speaker 1: Then my junior year, you know, I lost some weight,
Speaker 1: I got more athletic, and I really started rocking my
Speaker 1: junior and up being my best year of high school
Speaker 1: because my senior year my ankle was sucked up. I
Speaker 1: was fat hell and so uh. I always wanted to
Speaker 1: go to Michigan States as I was a kid. My
Speaker 1: aunt went there. She was a number one player in
Speaker 1: the country and like eighty nine that time she went there,
Speaker 1: And I used to go up as a little kid,
Speaker 1: and I was scared of Sparty, but I always used
Speaker 1: to tell my mama like I was, I was a
Speaker 1: little badass kids, scared of Sparty, scared of Chuck, I was.
Speaker 1: I was scared of everything, and you know, she's I
Speaker 1: used to always tell them, So I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: Michigan State, you know what I'm saying that. And and
Speaker 1: then when I got to high school, coaches old offered
Speaker 1: me but didn't. I committed, thinking I'm committed, but they
Speaker 1: weren't really honoring it. So it's like I felt like
Speaker 1: they was kind of teetering that line and like keeping
Speaker 1: me at bay but not going too far with me.
Speaker 1: And so I went down to Kentucky my junior year
Speaker 1: and they were playing Florida. And this is when Joe
Speaker 1: kimp Nor was there, Like that bus college game they
Speaker 1: was there. They went back to back I think yeah,
Speaker 1: and so college game they was there, were walking in
Speaker 1: rough arena and like I'm standing next to my assistant coach,
Speaker 1: my my head coach of high school and like we're
Speaker 1: literally this close to each other and gotta scream in
Speaker 1: each other here they're here. I'm like, yo, this ship live.
Speaker 1: So you know, we go on. We watched the game
Speaker 1: that night, Florida and winning. Then we stay over with
Speaker 1: me with Tubby earlier that day and they offered me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, this is why I want to be
Speaker 1: So I committed. My mom didn't even know. She didn't
Speaker 1: she had no idea, she had never met Tubby and nothing.
Speaker 1: So oh, I get back home. Uh. We drive back
Speaker 1: home that Sunday, Sunday evening. I get home. My mom
Speaker 1: was always on the blogs, just like she on Twitter
Speaker 1: now and and so when I get home like maybe Wednesday, Thursday,
Speaker 1: and started hitting the blogs like Draymond Green committed to Kentucky. Now,
Speaker 1: my you I still didn't tell my mom so we
Speaker 1: so are you thinking about this though, like damn, I
Speaker 1: need to tell her I need this or you're trying
Speaker 1: to hide it. I'm trying to hide it, like she
Speaker 1: never gonna find out until this time. So I get
Speaker 1: home like that Thursday, Yeah, and she's standing there like
Speaker 1: waiting on at me, like you did what like? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, huh. She showed me the computer like you
Speaker 1: you you committed to Kentucky. And she fucking went crazy
Speaker 1: like how dare you do that? You never talk to
Speaker 1: me about it this time? The other like lou who's
Speaker 1: my high school coach, They don't run you on me
Speaker 1: a fucking um all this stuff, and I'm just like whoa.
Speaker 1: So for me, it's like the happiest time in my life.
Speaker 1: You feel me like I'm committed to Kentucky. But she's
Speaker 1: fucking grilling me. So like a weekend and a week
Speaker 1: and a half later she goes, she drive down and
Speaker 1: go to a game by herself with my father. They
Speaker 1: met down and went to the game and she came
Speaker 1: back and she was in tears and she was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm not happy that you did that without me,
Speaker 1: but I see like why you committed it. It's amazing
Speaker 1: down there and I'm happy for you. And so time
Speaker 1: went on, you know what I'm saying, And then we
Speaker 1: get to March and Tubby called me. Now we're in
Speaker 1: the we're in the state playoffs, we're win the championship.
Speaker 1: But Tubby called me. He say, I wanted to call
Speaker 1: you and let you know that I'm gonna be leaving
Speaker 1: Kentucky tomorrow. And I'm I'm I'm gonna go coach at Minnesota,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to call you first and let you
Speaker 1: know that and not find out on blogs. And so
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, that's great. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you letting me know. Stand up guys up
Speaker 1: is and you know, I'm gonna reopen my recruit man,
Speaker 1: but I'll definitely look at Minnesota, definitely be at the
Speaker 1: top of that list. And so I reopened my recruitment
Speaker 1: and the first call I get that next morning, seven
Speaker 1: in the morning, this coach is so to day. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's up? He like, how in the funk
Speaker 1: could you? Like? This is me? Is relationship forever? Like
Speaker 1: how the fund could you commit to Kentucky? Is fucking bullshit?
Speaker 1: It's that another And I'm like, yo, like you didn't
Speaker 1: fucking offer me. So now I started back going out
Speaker 1: him like you ain't sucking offer me. You full of
Speaker 1: ship y'all act like I was fucking coming there and
Speaker 1: I committed to you, and you ain't you fucking pulled
Speaker 1: the scholarship, like funk that. And he's like when the
Speaker 1: fun said that, well you didn't have a fucking offer.
Speaker 1: And now I'm telling you know, you gotta fucking offer.
Speaker 1: So we're having a screaming match. He's offering me a scholarship,
Speaker 1: but it's a screaming match. And so you know, I
Speaker 1: ended up reopening recruitment and eventually comes down to Michigan,
Speaker 1: Michigan State in Indiana. And this is like the summer
Speaker 1: after that March, and I was probably not many people
Speaker 1: noticed I was gonna go to Michigan, and my mom
Speaker 1: wanted me to go to Michigan because of, you know,
Speaker 1: the education and all of that. I'm really trying to
Speaker 1: get to the least, so I ain't really tripping about
Speaker 1: the education, but I was gonna go to Michigan and
Speaker 1: so good and being just got there like it was
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I'm gonna go to Michigan. So
Speaker 1: they called me and they begged me to come down
Speaker 1: to open Jim on this Now, this is Thursday. I'm
Speaker 1: committing on the following Thursday. They begged me to commit.
Speaker 1: I had been before. It's Michigan. It's an hour away,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I've been there a
Speaker 1: bunch of times, and they begged me to come one
Speaker 1: last time on on that Monday before. So it's Thursday
Speaker 1: even and they're begging me to come. I go that Monday.
Speaker 1: I'm committing that following Thursday. But I don't tell them
Speaker 1: I'm committing there. They just know my press conference is Thursday.
Speaker 1: And so I go down. I play in the open
Speaker 1: gym with them. I'm busting their ass and like nobody
Speaker 1: talking back like that at that time. Manny Fresh was
Speaker 1: their PD was there. P d ain't a big talking
Speaker 1: you know saying Pete from Detroit. Manny not a big talker.
Speaker 1: They realig but they ain't big talkers. And then like
Speaker 1: the rest like coming Grady was school, but like there
Speaker 1: was a lot of squares on the team, And so
Speaker 1: I'm busting their ass and talking ship and like nobody's
Speaker 1: saying nothing back, but I'll go to Michigan State and
Speaker 1: I'm talking ship and like Travis Well, I trying to
Speaker 1: fight me, and like everybody trying to fight, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's me, you know what I'm saying, Like we're talking,
Speaker 1: everybody talking ship, We're about to fight in this open Jim,
Speaker 1: that's more me than fucking talking and everybody just looking
Speaker 1: at me. And so Michigan State just from more at
Speaker 1: home for me. But had Michigan left my ass at
Speaker 1: home and not fucking caught me down there, I went
Speaker 1: to Michigan crazy, and you know, Michigan stay end up
Speaker 1: being the best decision of my life. Like my freshman year,
Speaker 1: I was trying to transfer because I wasn't getting the
Speaker 1: clock I wanted, and I fucking knew I should have
Speaker 1: been playing. Every time I played, I played well, but
Speaker 1: I had to row in front of me who was
Speaker 1: the top five recruit at my position in the same
Speaker 1: class with me, and then I had some seniors ahead
Speaker 1: of me. But I earned my minutes, but I ain't.
Speaker 1: We played at Ohio State once that uh that year
Speaker 1: and I ain't played. I was the only game I
Speaker 1: didn't play at all. But I ain't play at all.
Speaker 1: I caught my mom crying on the bus, like you
Speaker 1: gotta give me the funk out of here, and she
Speaker 1: told me, like you you made your bed, you got
Speaker 1: laying and so I just kind of locked back in.
Speaker 1: I end up playing great through the tournament and then
Speaker 1: ship the rest of my career, I just got better
Speaker 1: and better and the rest is history. But that ship
Speaker 1: was it was. It was a roller coach rod for sure.
Speaker 1: To to to think all that culminated with you getting
Speaker 1: your jersey retired. Uh last December explained to us that
Speaker 1: that the energy and and and and the honor you
Speaker 1: felt during that so funny because they coaches wanted to
Speaker 1: retire my jersey. And two thousand and sixteen and I
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, I'll remind you, but two thousand
Speaker 1: and sixteen was a very rough year for me. I got, uh,
Speaker 1: I got, I got suspended from Game five of the finals,
Speaker 1: and then about three weeks later, I slapped the ship
Speaker 1: out of the guy in Michigan State and I got arrested.
Speaker 1: And then about two and a half weeks later, I
Speaker 1: had a snapchat incident and so like all that ship happened,
Speaker 1: bang bang bang, like six weeks and so it was
Speaker 1: like the roughest six weeks of my life. But so
Speaker 1: Coaches had called me Um, you know, after I got
Speaker 1: arrested a few couple of months later, and obviously I
Speaker 1: was talking to him all through that, but a couple
Speaker 1: of months later he's like, Yo, I want to retire
Speaker 1: your jersey here, and I'm like, Coach, fun that place.
Speaker 1: I'm never were coming back there, Like the guy fucking
Speaker 1: charged me and Ship and I slap them and I
Speaker 1: get arrested there and Hey charged me. I'm never fucking
Speaker 1: coming back to East last. And so I kind of
Speaker 1: said no in two thousand and sixteen, just being kind
Speaker 1: of hot head and not fucking understanding the honor. And
Speaker 1: then Coach told me Um like last September, like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you need to fucking pick a date. I'm retiring New Jersey.
Speaker 1: And we we end up finding a date that worked perfect.
Speaker 1: We was on the East Coast and Man to go
Speaker 1: there and like like I was like, oh, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna tear up, you know what I'm saying A tough
Speaker 1: guy and Ship and like I'll be fine, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna get emotional. But like when I went out there
Speaker 1: on that court, I have tried with my family there,
Speaker 1: with my kids there, and like to see my fucking
Speaker 1: jersey going in the rafters, like I think I'm the
Speaker 1: tenth one, Like that's there forever, and you know, it
Speaker 1: was a big deal for me to like have my
Speaker 1: name in the weight room and my picture of ship,
Speaker 1: but like to get my jersey up there, like I
Speaker 1: paid for the weight room, but to get me like
Speaker 1: I worked for that jersey to get a hand at
Speaker 1: a lot of motherfucker's have never seen that man, but
Speaker 1: I worked my eyes off to get my jersey up there,
Speaker 1: Like my fucker's told me I was stupid from going
Speaker 1: to mission, stated that I would never play there, and
Speaker 1: like to see my jersey up there, like my kids
Speaker 1: walk in that gym. Anybody walk in that gym out there,
Speaker 1: you know, and like people like still send me videos
Speaker 1: like when they go to the breast and watch the game,
Speaker 1: or like the jersey up there, that ship is surreal,
Speaker 1: Like I'm from Sagging Mission, Like that ship don't happen
Speaker 1: for us, right, Yeah, that's dope. Congratulations reflect real quickly,
Speaker 1: your last reflect on this last decade from you. You
Speaker 1: touched on the college experience you ended up being in
Speaker 1: College All Americans, second round draft pick to the Warriors.
Speaker 1: You guys helped build something special. You win three titles,
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, All Star, bad boy the league.
Speaker 1: This last ten years has been a hell of a
Speaker 1: run for you. How do you just sit back and
Speaker 1: kind of reflect on it now that you have time
Speaker 1: to reflect on it? Man, Uh, it's been I couldn't
Speaker 1: you know, dream this in my wildest dreams, man, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, growing up and seging making it to the NBA.
Speaker 1: It was just like a far fetched dream. I don't
Speaker 1: even know if I could call it a dream. It
Speaker 1: was just whatever the funk it was. But it was
Speaker 1: like I had this idea of getting there with no
Speaker 1: clue on how whatever happened or if it would ever happened.
Speaker 1: It's it's just like a little kid growing up and
Speaker 1: then not only to get to the NBA as a
Speaker 1: second round pick, but to actually have the success that
Speaker 1: I've had with the championships and All Star and Defensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year and stuff. Honestly, um and in
Speaker 1: my opinion, in my opinion, changing the game of basketball.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that not you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying now, I think I think I changed the
Speaker 1: game of basketball with the help of Steff curt you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But I think Steph Curry changed
Speaker 1: the game of basketball with the help of me. Like
Speaker 1: I think it was a match man of heaven. And
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you know, fucking Clay Thompson
Speaker 1: come into his own and become top two shooters in
Speaker 1: the world, and US three fucking changed the game of
Speaker 1: basketball forever. Like I think, I could have never imagined
Speaker 1: this in my wildest dreams. But it's it's been such
Speaker 1: a great run. And honestly, being in that run, you
Speaker 1: don't really appreciate it, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: this year I was able to step outside of that run,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, and all this year
Speaker 1: I would just have times where I would just sit
Speaker 1: back and think, or just chilling my room on the
Speaker 1: road or at the crib, and just think, like, yo,
Speaker 1: we like I actually just finished the run with the
Speaker 1: greatest team ever to step on the basketball court, and
Speaker 1: I was, you know, a big part of that, Like
Speaker 1: that I get. I mean, you can see I'm stumbling
Speaker 1: over my words because it touches, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying like different, just to sit back and think about that,
Speaker 1: Like the NBA. We I just spoke on it in
Speaker 1: the beginning, Like the NBA is fucking huge, Like it's
Speaker 1: a huge part of the world we live in. And
Speaker 1: to be uh to how the success that I've had
Speaker 1: in the NBA and to be a part of something
Speaker 1: so special, man, it's it means the world to me, hey,
Speaker 1: and and and to even go a little farther to
Speaker 1: even going a little father and me, you and Matt
Speaker 1: we was all second round picks. You know, we were
Speaker 1: all we we all the odds was against us coming
Speaker 1: in a lot of people didn't really believe we were
Speaker 1: just thrown in the draft at the end. But but
Speaker 1: for for you to to be where you are now,
Speaker 1: to have all the accolades, the awards and championships and
Speaker 1: all that, do you have a think back to like
Speaker 1: how to how being the second round pick motivated you
Speaker 1: to to defile the odds and to show to prove
Speaker 1: everybody wrong, Because I know that's what it did for me.
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy, bro, I didn't I forgot you
Speaker 1: were a second round pick, like you was so good
Speaker 1: in the league, like you were you and the league
Speaker 1: for so long, like I forgot. I remember watching you
Speaker 1: in Indiana, like fucking that's crazy. But uh, being a
Speaker 1: second round pick for me like I should I felt
Speaker 1: like I should have been the first round pick. I
Speaker 1: won National Player of the Year like Anthony Davis's all
Speaker 1: those guys in college the year that I want National
Speaker 1: Player of the year, and I went second round like
Speaker 1: national players that the year, gonna go second round. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I was second round and there's
Speaker 1: all these questions of who he ironically they asked who
Speaker 1: was I gonna guard? Which ain't do ship but motivated
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like what position was I
Speaker 1: gonna play? Which motivated me to do what I've done
Speaker 1: and try to make positions meaningless. But it was always
Speaker 1: feel to my fire. But I you know, I said
Speaker 1: it before I got I still to this day can
Speaker 1: name all guys drafted before me because that should have
Speaker 1: never stopped driving me. But I said it. Being the
Speaker 1: first round pick just didn't fit my story, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like from college from high you know,
Speaker 1: going all the way back to high school, like I
Speaker 1: played freshman basketball my freshman year and then sophomore year,
Speaker 1: I started every game, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: there was a couple of freshmans on varsity before me,
Speaker 1: and I thought I was better. But I played fucking
Speaker 1: I didn't even play j v BRO. I played freshman.
Speaker 1: I think the Lord's Voice I scored was twenty three
Speaker 1: that year, and I probably played like out of a
Speaker 1: fucking thirty too many games. I probably played nineteen minutes.
Speaker 1: I got busted everybody else. I was piste off. But like,
Speaker 1: and then you go to college, like my freshman year,
Speaker 1: I barely played, and then I and then I get
Speaker 1: to the league. My rookie year, I barely played. My
Speaker 1: second year a little more. But in the in between,
Speaker 1: that's being a second round pick. Being the first round
Speaker 1: pick just didn't fit my story, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like I mean no disrespect to the first round picks
Speaker 1: or guys who's been a first round pick, but like
Speaker 1: first round picks are given a lot of ship, like
Speaker 1: that make a lot of sense, though, you make a
Speaker 1: lot of sense that that ship don't fit your story.
Speaker 1: I never heard it like that, but that makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense. First round and fit my story, Like
Speaker 1: you just didn't think who I was, like, are giving ship?
Speaker 1: I didn't been giving ship in my life and give
Speaker 1: an opportunity at the opportunity like that organization wants them
Speaker 1: to be great, so that GM could say I got
Speaker 1: it right. I told you I didn't fit me Like, no,
Speaker 1: I had to go take that gime and respect. You're
Speaker 1: talking about that now, you talking about the politics that
Speaker 1: people don't really understand. Man. That ship is created to
Speaker 1: really able to be able to be a second round pick.
Speaker 1: We all had our stories, but to be able to
Speaker 1: crack through finally, and that means we're taking people's jobs.
Speaker 1: That means, you know, in my situation early and going
Speaker 1: to the state, they were trading Don Leaving and Murphy
Speaker 1: those are two then Leave he was a lottery pick.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, Troy Murphy was up there high,
Speaker 1: you know. So to first second round pick, to crack
Speaker 1: into that fucking rotation and line up with all the
Speaker 1: politics that s it ain't easy, man, if people don't
Speaker 1: think about that side, No, it's different. I mean and
Speaker 1: for me, like I was the thirty fifth bit. You
Speaker 1: had Harrison Barnes who was the seventh pick, infestor Cezeli
Speaker 1: who was thetie. They were first round picks. The Warriors
Speaker 1: passed on me twice. I just had and to be
Speaker 1: still sitting there, but like you know, both of those guys,
Speaker 1: and you know, we we did some special together our
Speaker 1: draft class. We kind of view it as like was
Speaker 1: the turning point of this organization. Like we you know,
Speaker 1: we came in two thous twelve, that was our first
Speaker 1: year making the playoffs here and um, and so you
Speaker 1: know we've done some special things together. But of that
Speaker 1: drive class, I am the last one here, but I
Speaker 1: was the last one picked. And so you know, just
Speaker 1: having that fuel to constantly fucking drive me knowing that
Speaker 1: not only did they pass me twice, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but all the other teams just fucking went
Speaker 1: past me something to something. I think one team might
Speaker 1: have passed me three or three or four times in
Speaker 1: the drift like and so that's always been fuel. But
Speaker 1: fun theme now right uh, right up. And we recently
Speaker 1: had Mark Jackson on the show. Actually his episode dropped today,
Speaker 1: so everyone go check that. That's gonna be a little later,
Speaker 1: but check that out. Jack Jackson definitely Jackson talk to
Speaker 1: us about him kind of building the foundation for you
Speaker 1: as a pro, him as a head coach, and what
Speaker 1: he kind of along with talent, Like he said, he
Speaker 1: gives you guys all the credit, but talk to me
Speaker 1: about his um what what I want to say? His
Speaker 1: role in that process? Um he You know, Marky Jackson
Speaker 1: played a very key role in the success we've had here.
Speaker 1: And Mark Jackson you know, the Steph Curry and Clay Thompson.
Speaker 1: You you see, they weren't that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And obviously their skill got better, but their mentality wasn't
Speaker 1: as such, you know what I'm saying. I remember times
Speaker 1: of Mark Jackson telling them like, yo, you're great. Like
Speaker 1: you you fucking like him because you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but like you great believe that you know, and like
Speaker 1: kind of giving them the confidence to and and not
Speaker 1: only the confidence, but the ultimate green light to fucking
Speaker 1: go be great, you know what I'm saying. Like he
Speaker 1: changed their mindsets from who they were played coming into
Speaker 1: the league, and staff was already here when Mark got here.
Speaker 1: He changed their mindset and basketball and just as people,
Speaker 1: and I was huge for who they've grown to become today,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that, So you know, and
Speaker 1: then obviously me coming in, Like I still remember when
Speaker 1: I got drafted. Mark Jackson called me and he was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I want you to come in and be that same
Speaker 1: Draymond Green that I've seen at Michigan State leading guys
Speaker 1: for years. I want you to come in and be
Speaker 1: that same guy. Don't come here and try to take
Speaker 1: no back seat. Don't come here and not say what
Speaker 1: you gotta say. Come in and be that same guy,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So Mark Jackson and still
Speaker 1: confidence in us, you know. And and and then obviously,
Speaker 1: you know a couple of years, my first two years
Speaker 1: he was here, we went to the playoffs and he
Speaker 1: got fired, you know what I'm saying. And it was
Speaker 1: it was kind of fucked up, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because it was just like damn, like this guy's helping
Speaker 1: us reaching new heights and then he got out of there.
Speaker 1: I've never said this, but to be quite honest, Mark
Speaker 1: Jackson was great for us, and and and where we were,
Speaker 1: you know, we were all young, thirsty, hungry, trying to
Speaker 1: trying to get it. I think Mark Jackson was great
Speaker 1: for us. Do we get to the next level with
Speaker 1: Mark Jackson? I'm not sure. I don't. I don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't just say no because we don't know the answer.
Speaker 1: But I can't just say yes either, And you know,
Speaker 1: for several different reasons. However, do we reach the level
Speaker 1: that we reached with Steve Kerve without Mark Jackson? I
Speaker 1: can't say that either, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: it's still something in us that when Steve Kurt took over,
Speaker 1: it was kind of up, it was already trending up,
Speaker 1: and then we just kind of shot out of cannon
Speaker 1: with Steve. You know, Steve brought a different philosophy on
Speaker 1: the offensive end, which I think really helped us get
Speaker 1: over that hump, you know what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 1: why I think the key differences lies. Mark Jackson's offense
Speaker 1: was kind of take advantage of a miss match or
Speaker 1: high ball screen, you know what I'm saying that at
Speaker 1: times like I still remember when we play San Antonio,
Speaker 1: Steph probably scored twenty straight and Pop didn't switch a coverage.
Speaker 1: She just like hit like it'll run his course. And
Speaker 1: that's kind of Steve curse theory too, and so I
Speaker 1: think he learned that he learned that from Poper. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it makes sense. You know, what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: short enough, all of us were sucking standing around watching
Speaker 1: step go to works scored twenty five straight and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he got tired and we're all
Speaker 1: out of rhythm. They came storming back and they beat us,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm not sure with
Speaker 1: the offensive philosophy that we ever get over. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I wouldn't necessarily, I wouldn't say it's
Speaker 1: his coaching skills. His offensive philosophy was just different. And
Speaker 1: Steve kirkbot in the offensive philosophy that really fitted us great,
Speaker 1: and it really opened up a lot for you know,
Speaker 1: Stephan Clay was already starm but it opened up the
Speaker 1: floor for them as well. And so, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I think we kind of got I mean, we never
Speaker 1: know what wouldn't happened with market. We don't know if
Speaker 1: Steve was here. We will never know that. But it
Speaker 1: fucking worked out perfectly. And I think, you know, both
Speaker 1: of those guys deserved credit for a lot of fun,
Speaker 1: credit for what we've been over to. With Mark Jackson, no,
Speaker 1: I think like with Mark, he has an unbelievable basketball mind.
Speaker 1: Doug actually playing the game and just being a port
Speaker 1: guard and playing with so many good players and knowing
Speaker 1: that control the game. But I think when Steve came in,
Speaker 1: Steve brought that championship man tality. Steve got a lot
Speaker 1: of and a lot of different places. Man, I don't
Speaker 1: care what people say. Steve got a lot of experience
Speaker 1: and a lot of rings. I want one with him,
Speaker 1: so and I know it's basketball mind. People got to think.
Speaker 1: And this is what I always give Steve his problem,
Speaker 1: and this is why I know he's he's he's he's
Speaker 1: he's a great coach, and how he thinks. Steve was
Speaker 1: in a situation where he didn't play whole series. But
Speaker 1: he'll come in Game six, championship game and knocked down
Speaker 1: four threes and did he play the whole game, So
Speaker 1: so his mindset. They both are great minds, but steve
Speaker 1: mindset was a little different, and that's why the team
Speaker 1: was able to grow. And it's not a knock against Mark,
Speaker 1: it's just how things happened. Absolutely absolutely, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I agree with that. And obviously, you know, when Steve
Speaker 1: got here was obviously when my career really took off,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So I'm appreciative of what
Speaker 1: he bought. You know what I'm saying. Me and Steve
Speaker 1: used to bump has a whole lot of first and
Speaker 1: it took us a while to realize we're so similar
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. Like we both got fucking
Speaker 1: fiery passion. We're both gonna do whatever we gotta do
Speaker 1: for the team, but can lose it in the fucking instant,
Speaker 1: right and so um, you know, I really appreciate Steve
Speaker 1: and his basketball mind and and also his field. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like Steve got great phil he
Speaker 1: knows what to say when to say. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He know all right, I'm gonna take a
Speaker 1: step back and like, let y'all do what y'all gotta do.
Speaker 1: I get it, it's been sucking six months in the season.
Speaker 1: Let me take a step back and let y'all coach
Speaker 1: the game against Phinish. I ain't said a word, you
Speaker 1: know just that nextually is because I've been in a situation.
Speaker 1: How many times you come out of the game going crazy,
Speaker 1: and he's said, Mike Brown down there all the time, Mike,
Speaker 1: Mike Brown tells me, y'all telling like Dre, I don't
Speaker 1: get funk. You're gonna say you you can say whatever
Speaker 1: you gotta say to me. I'm cool. But he said,
Speaker 1: come calm me down. And it's smart though, because if
Speaker 1: he come down there, you know, so like he just
Speaker 1: he got great field. Man. I remember what a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago, I was literally at a point where
Speaker 1: I'm like, like the infamous argument with me and him
Speaker 1: and old k see you know it blew up, which
Speaker 1: it was crazy, but like it was after that, Like
Speaker 1: I was at a point and until his credit he
Speaker 1: learned me. You know what I'm saying, He didn't, you know,
Speaker 1: he didn't just throw in the time he figured me out.
Speaker 1: I mean, fucking a million conversations with Tim, it is
Speaker 1: always something going wrong, like just trying to learn me. Yo.
Speaker 1: I was at a point where I'm like, Yo, I'm like,
Speaker 1: if he say one more thing to me, I'm about
Speaker 1: fucking losing on him. He wrote me, he wrote me
Speaker 1: afore he didn't say nothing. I was I'm dying for
Speaker 1: him to say something so I could ain't saying a word.
Speaker 1: He wrote me a four page letter. Bro. He all
Speaker 1: lead you, huh, to this day, I can't tell you
Speaker 1: what the letter said. I read the first fucking line,
Speaker 1: and they said, Draymond, you know I wanted to write
Speaker 1: you this letter. I know, you know things are rough
Speaker 1: right now, and you know we're we're kind of bumping
Speaker 1: hands right now, and we're out of stand still and
Speaker 1: you're you're frustrating and starting to pull over. You know.
Speaker 1: I closed the letter up and threw it away. I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: he know me. He got me pair it out, and
Speaker 1: he took his time to figure me out. I don't
Speaker 1: even I don't need to see anything else like And
Speaker 1: we were in Philly never and so that next game
Speaker 1: we played that next day and I had literally talked
Speaker 1: to coaches on the phone. I'm like, coach, I'm about
Speaker 1: to fucking lose it. I'm fucking sick of Steve like this.
Speaker 1: That another and he's talking to me. And then after
Speaker 1: I talked to coaches. So I had the letter for
Speaker 1: a few days. I didn't open it after I talked
Speaker 1: to coaches. Open the latter. I read the first line.
Speaker 1: I just threw it away. I can't tell you what
Speaker 1: the rest of it said, but it was just cool
Speaker 1: because I'm like, damn, He figured me out and he
Speaker 1: knew I was ready to lose it. He didn't say
Speaker 1: a fucking word. He played. He fucking chess move bro.
Speaker 1: He fucking he learned that ship from Pop two. Trust me,
Speaker 1: he learned that from Pop two. Man, I'm telling you
Speaker 1: Pop through the same ship. It was fucking great, bro Like,
Speaker 1: and that next game, I almost had a triple double
Speaker 1: at halftime. I was like one like one to six short.
Speaker 1: He told me at halftime, like, yo, you we was
Speaker 1: beating the asked and fill it. He's like, yo, You're
Speaker 1: probably not gonna play the rest game, and you close
Speaker 1: to the triple double, so you try to get it fast. Bro.
Speaker 1: I spent the rest of the half trying to get
Speaker 1: that last assists and it never fucking came. Almost tricked
Speaker 1: the game for us, like literally to Harrison Bars and
Speaker 1: at the quarner three was down to Harrison Bars at
Speaker 1: the quarter three to win the game for us at
Speaker 1: the end because I'm trying to chang the triple douga.
Speaker 1: He came to me after the game. He said, yo,
Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't have said noting to you because the
Speaker 1: way he was playing completely changed. But he said, what
Speaker 1: I will tell you is the first the first three
Speaker 1: players on the court. I looked at my coaches and
Speaker 1: I said, Raymond back, like I can see the difference
Speaker 1: in your play the first three players of the game.
Speaker 1: And so like a lot of credit to Steve Man.
Speaker 1: He really figured me out and been getting the most
Speaker 1: out of me as a player. But that relationship, when
Speaker 1: I try to tell people, because I always on the
Speaker 1: outside looking in and Jack and I are the same,
Speaker 1: you are just like us having an understanding. And then
Speaker 1: when I got there to see that, I was right, like,
Speaker 1: you make that whole organization go. You you make that
Speaker 1: I mean obviously Stephan, Clay and k D and whoever
Speaker 1: you're you're the people who have helped you obtain the
Speaker 1: success you have. But that team doesn't win one championship
Speaker 1: without you. Don't even know if if Clay, Steph and
Speaker 1: and and this is going out and and and and
Speaker 1: k D alone could win a championship because there's so
Speaker 1: many things you do, first of all, that don't show
Speaker 1: up on the shaft. She You'll go out there and
Speaker 1: get a trouble double, You'll kill You'll get a triple
Speaker 1: double without even getting ten points. There's so many lock
Speaker 1: up the best lock up a whole defense, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, this motherfucker will hold a whole at six
Speaker 1: at six five, hold the whole entire defense down, but
Speaker 1: even the stuff off the court. How you mentally challenge
Speaker 1: the coaches, how you mentally challenge the training staff, how
Speaker 1: you mentally challenge management like you, It's like a beautiful mind.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because I saw and then when I
Speaker 1: was fortunate enough to come funk with you guys, and
Speaker 1: you guys got me a championship, and I don't have
Speaker 1: to do ship appreciate y'all. I got to see what
Speaker 1: I kind of always thought, like Draymond hand is in
Speaker 1: all aspects of this organization and on the outside people
Speaker 1: to understand that because they look at you or he
Speaker 1: can only play with them, he could only do this,
Speaker 1: He can only do that. Though your teammates Steph and
Speaker 1: Clay k d those guys, other guys you played with,
Speaker 1: Andre Sean and in that organization, the way they've handsomely
Speaker 1: rewarded you with two nice contracts, understand how important you
Speaker 1: are not only to the success on the court, but
Speaker 1: just the overall view of how the Golden State Wars
Speaker 1: are viewed and I just wanted to let you know
Speaker 1: that because, like I said, I thought it a long
Speaker 1: time ago and I got to see it firsthand and
Speaker 1: it was a beautiful thing. Man. And you're just like
Speaker 1: I said, you like me and Jack. Your heart is
Speaker 1: on your sleep, So you're gonna say there's no sugarcoat
Speaker 1: nothing and sometimes like fun, maybe we shouldn't have said that,
Speaker 1: but we truly felt it at that time and it
Speaker 1: needed to be said. But to be able to see
Speaker 1: it person I just want to say, I love that ship, man,
Speaker 1: And and it's really a hass off to you because
Speaker 1: not a lot of people get to understand and see that. Man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, bro. And you definitely did something when
Speaker 1: you came here. I mean even your mindset coming in here,
Speaker 1: like you know, like it brought a different mindset to
Speaker 1: this team because you know there's like Stephan Clay, there's
Speaker 1: no surprise they don't say much, you know stuff talk
Speaker 1: a little more now, Clay talk a little more now,
Speaker 1: but that's come a time. But they you know, to
Speaker 1: their court, they don't say much. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's so just really adding another guy who just like
Speaker 1: obviously you came in and you played good for us
Speaker 1: in big games for sure, but just and and I
Speaker 1: think one of the things that really hurt you even
Speaker 1: in here, Like obviously you got the ring and all
Speaker 1: of that, and you played in some big games in
Speaker 1: the playoffs too, but when you went down at the
Speaker 1: end of the season, they kind of set you back something,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you know that's how
Speaker 1: I find it, Danny, you came in here, you helped
Speaker 1: us get a championship. But you know, I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, I hear that all the time, like, oh,
Speaker 1: you ain't ship without Stephani Clair kd like three all stars.
Speaker 1: Like I can dig that, Like that's cool, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, yeah, the them guys do make
Speaker 1: me a lot better, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: Tom Brady ain't winning championships with no receivers, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, you gotta have good players around roun.
Speaker 1: And that's not like Michael Jordan's one of the greatest,
Speaker 1: if not probably I mean arguing Lebron all of that,
Speaker 1: Like the greatest players we've ever seen, has Scottie Pippen,
Speaker 1: Scotty I've been watching old game. Then it's robbing fucking
Speaker 1: Steve kirr Bach, like Michael Jordan, half a lot of Harper,
Speaker 1: Like everybody got somebody, and so do do playing stuff
Speaker 1: made me better? Of course? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not afraid to say that I think you
Speaker 1: know the world kind of. I think so many people
Speaker 1: get piste off that I am who I am and
Speaker 1: I've had the success that I have, but I don't
Speaker 1: do what they can see, which is so many people
Speaker 1: they know basketball and don't know ship. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like sometimes I wish I played football because
Speaker 1: people enjoy football, but they know they don't know ship.
Speaker 1: You know what. There's too much going on out there
Speaker 1: for them to think they know something. But in basketball,
Speaker 1: everybody think they fucking know the game. And like, I know,
Speaker 1: I'll run when when you're like talking basketball and like
Speaker 1: X and I was like, I'll fucking run circles around
Speaker 1: most people in this world. But yeah, everybody got in
Speaker 1: the pin and think they know the fucking game, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, do make me better, Like yeah, Clay Thompson,
Speaker 1: do make me better, and like I make them better
Speaker 1: because by the way you know people talk a this
Speaker 1: ship about shooting and all of this, and my I'll
Speaker 1: put this up against anybody. If not number one, I'm
Speaker 1: definitely top two or three. I think I'm the best
Speaker 1: screen center ever play in the NBA. Like that's just real,
Speaker 1: Like I'm a great def But I don't think anybody
Speaker 1: that ever fucking touched the NBA that can set better
Speaker 1: screens than me, you know what I'm saying. So, but
Speaker 1: it's a lot of dumb funks that don't even realize that.
Speaker 1: You know what's important. That is though, Specie with the
Speaker 1: two guys you the three guys you mentioned, and you're
Speaker 1: hey there with k D two, you're having some of
Speaker 1: the most prolific scores we've ever seen because of the screen,
Speaker 1: Like the screen is so hard to navigate. And then
Speaker 1: your motherfucking smart, You'll lean your role, You'll slip out early,
Speaker 1: You'll playing mind games. They'll give you the ball, you'll
Speaker 1: give it right back to them, but you'll pass it
Speaker 1: to someone like your mind of seeing it, like you
Speaker 1: see plays before they develop. Like like I said to me,
Speaker 1: you've always been that quarterback out there. You handle the
Speaker 1: ball more than anyone on that team. They can say
Speaker 1: whatever the funk you want, but you are the primary
Speaker 1: decision maker no matter what the situation is, Like you
Speaker 1: get Steff history. I mean, obviously Steph can take his
Speaker 1: ices and CLAYO get hot and Kdi did to say,
Speaker 1: but from a day to day standpoint, you are the
Speaker 1: quarterback that gets everyone else going absolutely and that's you know,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you pride and that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So to everybody out there who want to talk about
Speaker 1: this year, um, I really don't give a funk because
Speaker 1: in my opinion, I got I got better, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I got I got better as a player,
Speaker 1: I got better as a person, as a leader, and
Speaker 1: I became a better screener for sure, because even learning
Speaker 1: learning the screen for D'Angelo Russell, it's completely different than
Speaker 1: learning the screen for Steph Curry and Clay Thompson, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So just learning the screen for
Speaker 1: Jordan Pool, you know, like I got better, you know,
Speaker 1: and and like that's donna make me even better for
Speaker 1: next year. So you know, like I appreciate everybody talking.
Speaker 1: I kind of needed, you know, them to relike that
Speaker 1: fire under my eyes. But I'm definitely the best screen
Speaker 1: that I ever played in the NBA. And they're gonna
Speaker 1: hate to hear that. They want me shoot, you can't
Speaker 1: do that on the best fucking screen that I ever
Speaker 1: played as as much as much as much as you've
Speaker 1: been done now already, though, Like I know, you gotta
Speaker 1: continue to challenge yourself. Defensive Player of the Year, you
Speaker 1: got NBA titles, you gotta gold medal, and I know
Speaker 1: you went through a lot of challenges, you know, going
Speaker 1: through before the season was into. We're trying to mold
Speaker 1: the young guys, Like what's your next challenge? Like, you know,
Speaker 1: I know you're coming back next year and try to
Speaker 1: get the team back. The championship is one, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But what what's what's your personal challenge?
Speaker 1: You challenge yourself because you damn have done everything already.
Speaker 1: My my personal challenge for myself is, like I think
Speaker 1: one of year, I shot like thirty eight thirty nine
Speaker 1: percent from three, you know what I'm saying, Like, and
Speaker 1: so my personal challenge to myself is to get that back.
Speaker 1: And I've kind of had the like re restructure my
Speaker 1: jump shot, you know what I'm saying, or not and
Speaker 1: and kind of restructure my whole body. A few years ago, um,
Speaker 1: after after we after couch in the finals, my hip
Speaker 1: was bothering me, and so the next day I like
Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't really walk, Like if we didn't sleep,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have been able to
Speaker 1: play in game five. And then you know, the day
Speaker 1: after that, I couldn't move at all. Like I got
Speaker 1: to the point where I was sitting on the couch
Speaker 1: with like my leg like opened up, and I end
Speaker 1: up you know, check getting my hips checked out and stuff,
Speaker 1: and there were some issues, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I had to recorrect that. I had to re
Speaker 1: strength that strengthen my core, which is something I never
Speaker 1: even really knew, you know what I'm saying, And like,
Speaker 1: so I had to do all this restrength and in
Speaker 1: turn and doing all of that, it kind of changed
Speaker 1: my shot because it changed the way I left up
Speaker 1: and all of this ship. So I've been working on
Speaker 1: restructuring that and getting my three pointer back to like
Speaker 1: if I can get that back, you know, to above
Speaker 1: thirty six, possibly shoot forty, but sing, which I know
Speaker 1: I'm more than capable of, uh, you know, the world.
Speaker 1: The league is in trouble again if I can do that,
Speaker 1: So that's my goal and too and to be an
Speaker 1: All Star again. You know what I'm saying, Like, uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's honestly been dope as hell. These last two
Speaker 1: all started to go on a vacation with with my
Speaker 1: kids and my my fiance. But I I got that
Speaker 1: itch again, you know what I'm saying, Like I needed
Speaker 1: I got the three straight and I'm like, yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: like I knew I could do it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I kind of lost that. It's like all
Speaker 1: start didn't really become a thing for me no more.
Speaker 1: I got that itch again, like like I want to
Speaker 1: get back there, you know what I'm saying. So those
Speaker 1: are a couple of challenges for myself and then and
Speaker 1: then getting this team back to great. And you know
Speaker 1: a lot of people saying we can't we can't win
Speaker 1: without KD, Like like we didn't win without k D already.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's so really like is
Speaker 1: it going to be as an easy fun though? Like
Speaker 1: Kevin's great? You know what I'm saying, Like it's not
Speaker 1: gonna be as easy, But I know for sure. With
Speaker 1: with them too, guys I rolled been rolling with since
Speaker 1: I came into this motherfucking that we started ship with.
Speaker 1: It can get done, and we're gonna get it done.
Speaker 1: That's my goal. Those are my goals for myself moving forward.
Speaker 1: That's dope in in a in a historical context, obviously,
Speaker 1: you guys have been argued with one of the greatest,
Speaker 1: the greatest team, if not the Bulls team, the back
Speaker 1: and forth. How do you look at the historical context
Speaker 1: of what you guys accomplished and how hard in your
Speaker 1: mind is to compare your guys team to the great
Speaker 1: Bulls teams and the great Laker teams and and and
Speaker 1: along down the line. I think, Um, I'm biased obviously,
Speaker 1: but I think we're the greatest team ever. Um, and
Speaker 1: you know when you start, when when you start. But
Speaker 1: I'm not one to really compare a team, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like Michael Jordan's didn't play in the lead,
Speaker 1: we played there today, Like it's a completely differently, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So to even say like, oh
Speaker 1: we would have beat them, they would have beat up
Speaker 1: It's like they was physical as fuck, Like could we
Speaker 1: play with that level of physicality. I don't know, like
Speaker 1: probably now or probably could, but could't they keep up
Speaker 1: with our speed and the ship we were probably not,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. When you started talking Shock
Speaker 1: and Kobe, Like god, you know RP Code Shot my
Speaker 1: favorite player growing up as a kid, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, like I had our Lando Magic nightlights
Speaker 1: and fucking onesie pajamas and but like and watching I've
Speaker 1: always watched the game as a student of the game,
Speaker 1: like me and Steph Curry would have fucking destroyed Shocking
Speaker 1: a pick and roll like destroy Shack would have fucking
Speaker 1: murdered me on the block, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like these are two completely different games we're talking about,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that, So we started to
Speaker 1: compare teams and like, are we better than them? And
Speaker 1: our Arab basketball we would have destroyed them, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But it's Shock and Kobe here where
Speaker 1: they're fucking dumping the ball down the Shock, we probably
Speaker 1: would have got crushed, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: just the reality and you want to take us back
Speaker 1: to the nineties with the Bulls and their physicality and
Speaker 1: the League today, you can't touch nobody. So to think
Speaker 1: that we could play at that level of physicality, like
Speaker 1: it's bullshit, you know what I'm saying, Like we don't
Speaker 1: know that because we don't play near that level of physicality.
Speaker 1: But they were winning game seventy nine and seventy like
Speaker 1: we scored seventy nine points in the first five, and
Speaker 1: so it was two completely different errors. And I respect
Speaker 1: everybody for their greatness in their era, like dominating the
Speaker 1: on in your era, and the Lakers did that. Fucking
Speaker 1: the Bulls did that, like and the Celtics back then,
Speaker 1: they did that. Like I respect teams for dominating their area.
Speaker 1: And we've dominated our era, all right. Uh favorite defensive,
Speaker 1: favorite chatters defensively, I know you are you one of
Speaker 1: the best defenders in the game. Who did you study?
Speaker 1: You know? Tell me who is your favorite guy to
Speaker 1: defend and who did you study? You know as being
Speaker 1: the best one of the best defenders to play the game? Uh?
Speaker 1: For for me? Um, you know, I used to I
Speaker 1: used to study a lot of different guys, like I
Speaker 1: will study Charles Oakley and Dennis rob Man like their side,
Speaker 1: you know, And and then I would also study Kurt Thomas.
Speaker 1: You know how he guarded Kurt Thomas. Yeah, like one
Speaker 1: of the best ever. You know what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: so like studying Kurt Thomas and then being around like
Speaker 1: a big brother to me, Ben Wallace, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like I came up, you know, in Michigan
Speaker 1: watching the Pistons, and then I was able to get
Speaker 1: a get a get to get a chance to know
Speaker 1: Ben Wallace and like really study him and underside like
Speaker 1: Ben Wallace sucking six seven six eight was garden shot.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that so uh, you know,
Speaker 1: just studying him from you know, from a from a
Speaker 1: big perspective. Uh, you know, I really I really watched
Speaker 1: a lot of those guys, and then from on the perimeter,
Speaker 1: I would watch like how clips are Gary Payton, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like watch different angles, Like Gary
Speaker 1: Payton wasn't the fastest, but he would fucking lock somebody up,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, watching with angles and like
Speaker 1: use this hands and different stuff like that. Like I
Speaker 1: would watch guys like that, and for me, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: over the course of my career, my favorite couple of
Speaker 1: guys to guard has been Blade Griffin and and Kevin Love.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that they they're both great players.
Speaker 1: But I used to, like, you know, when I was
Speaker 1: coming in, like those were kind of the next two
Speaker 1: power forwards up, those two LaMarcus Audrey when I was
Speaker 1: first coming in the league, and so when I was
Speaker 1: coming in, like I would love to take on the
Speaker 1: challenge and like, oh, these are'all guys like I can
Speaker 1: lock them up, you know what I'm saying that. So
Speaker 1: those are two guys who you know, I appreciate playing
Speaker 1: against them because they're great talents, but I also appreciated
Speaker 1: and will take on that challenge head on because you know,
Speaker 1: you hear like all the talk about how young, you know,
Speaker 1: great these young guys are, and for me, should I'm
Speaker 1: I need it. I'm trying to feed my family, you know,
Speaker 1: and so if these are two guys I need to
Speaker 1: lock up for y'all to believe it, then that's what
Speaker 1: I was gonna go do. And so, you know, I
Speaker 1: appreciate those two guys greatness you know, in their in
Speaker 1: their game. But you know, those have been two of
Speaker 1: my favorite guys that match up against and you know,
Speaker 1: once that fire is lit, like, those are two guys
Speaker 1: you are playing against this lip. I can never go
Speaker 1: away like you know they Whenever I stepped on the
Speaker 1: court with either those guys, I'm trying to destroy them
Speaker 1: and they're trying to destroy me, because that battle has
Speaker 1: been there since I came into the league, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But if I had to pinpoint two guys,
Speaker 1: it's definitely those two guys because I knew those was
Speaker 1: two guys in my position that I had to go
Speaker 1: through if I wanted to reach the level that I've
Speaker 1: been able to reach but also continue to go. Hey,
Speaker 1: I had I had a short stand with the Clippers,
Speaker 1: a real shorts stand with the Clippers. But I've seen
Speaker 1: Kevin Love give Blake Griffith thirty and twenty five with
Speaker 1: my own eyes, I could I could not believe it.
Speaker 1: All jumpers, no dunks, no nothing, lay ups, hooks, threes.
Speaker 1: I'm like, by Kevin Love is for real. I've seen
Speaker 1: my own eyes, like a lot of system to it
Speaker 1: and none of that skill, you know what I'm saying. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: And then Blake on the other hand, strongest hell too.
Speaker 1: And I got to respect Blake also and seeing like
Speaker 1: where his game has come to like, you know, from
Speaker 1: who Blake wants to who he is today. He worked
Speaker 1: on this game the hardest workers I've ever seen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: handle shooting it now. So I got respectful both of
Speaker 1: those guys. But I love those matchups. But we used
Speaker 1: to have those battles. I mean, people don't understand, like,
Speaker 1: not that you guys were a little brother, but all
Speaker 1: the talent we had in Live City, we should have
Speaker 1: won championships. And we're gonna break that down at some
Speaker 1: point with the with all the dysfunction we had. But
Speaker 1: just right across the way when we used to battle
Speaker 1: you guys, we were the last team. You know, we
Speaker 1: pushed you guys. You guys pushed us to the seven
Speaker 1: game series. We beat you guys, and then the next
Speaker 1: year Coach Kirk came and you guys won the championship.
Speaker 1: So we would see you guys like damn, Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're a different type of team. We kind of feel
Speaker 1: like we're better than but these motherfucker's right here with
Speaker 1: the way how hard Draymond plays. And I remember some
Speaker 1: ship between happened between Steph and um CP because CP
Speaker 1: was the best point guard the league at the time.
Speaker 1: You said something like I'm sucking taking steph ten out
Speaker 1: of ten times. I don't know your exact words, but
Speaker 1: we saw you guys coming and how much you guys
Speaker 1: fucked with each other, how excited you guys were when
Speaker 1: other people scored, and just the chemistry and or you
Speaker 1: guys had around your team. I'm like, these young motherfucker's
Speaker 1: are up next. We felt like we had it what
Speaker 1: it took at that time to win a championship. But
Speaker 1: we used to battle with you guys constantly because you
Speaker 1: guys were younger coming up. We were older already in
Speaker 1: a position to win. You guys were still learning. But
Speaker 1: where we used to look over there, like these young
Speaker 1: motherfucking warriors, they're gonna be a problem, man. You know.
Speaker 1: I remember those battles with y'all, and for us, like
Speaker 1: you know, it was like y'all kind of had everything
Speaker 1: to lose and we had nothing to lose, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like they were kind of dubbing y'all
Speaker 1: that next team out the West to be great and
Speaker 1: go on and do great things. And so for us,
Speaker 1: we like ship well every time we played, uh, we
Speaker 1: compete at a high level. So if this is the
Speaker 1: next team that they're dubbing, you know, the team that
Speaker 1: they're dubbing to be next up, Like why can't we
Speaker 1: you know, And it was kind of you know, it
Speaker 1: was kind of the early stage, and like once again
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Blake, where you know, Blake's a huge
Speaker 1: deal and you know Steph is coming up. But you know,
Speaker 1: Steph came up in North Carolina. CEP came up in
Speaker 1: North Carolina, so they kind of had that relationship, you know,
Speaker 1: that pre existent relationship where Steph would work out with
Speaker 1: CP when he was in college and you know CP
Speaker 1: in the league and all of this stuff. I hated
Speaker 1: it because to me, CP was kind of using that
Speaker 1: ship to his advantage. You know what I'm saying, where
Speaker 1: you know, CP a smart guy like I. I don't
Speaker 1: like CP at all, Like we don't have a good
Speaker 1: relationship at all, but I respect his hustle and I
Speaker 1: respect his i Q. He's smart as hell. And and
Speaker 1: CEP was kind of using like CEP saw stuff coming up.
Speaker 1: And you know, once you started to get older in
Speaker 1: this league, you start to realize like, Okay, this guy
Speaker 1: is coming Eventually, he may catch me because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start to decline at some point, and so I would
Speaker 1: kind of see CP kind of keeping stuff at Bay,
Speaker 1: but yeah, fucking giving him a stiff farm at the
Speaker 1: same time. Now, stuff, you know stuff, ain't you know?
Speaker 1: Stuff is stuff? Like we all love stuff, right, He
Speaker 1: ain't cut like, he ain't got the street part to him,
Speaker 1: and so he ain't confrontational at all. He ain't exactly
Speaker 1: And so with me coming from where I come from
Speaker 1: and the way I grew up, I'm kind of watching, like, Yo,
Speaker 1: he kind of rock with you stuff, but he kind
Speaker 1: of don't. He kind of keeping you at Bay. And
Speaker 1: so I took it up on myself to try to
Speaker 1: create fucking division there because I knew that if we
Speaker 1: wanted to win, we had to go through them. And
Speaker 1: if we're going to get through, then we can't get
Speaker 1: through with you. With him keeping you at Bay, It's
Speaker 1: just not gonna happen. And I felt like that was
Speaker 1: a tactic of CP using that to fucking key stuff
Speaker 1: at Bay. And once Stuff started to kind of break
Speaker 1: out of that, and then all of a sudden you
Speaker 1: see him as CP get into it. I feel like
Speaker 1: that's when we really started to take off, because we
Speaker 1: had to go through y'all to get there. Yeah. Oh,
Speaker 1: I love hearing that because, like I said, I don't
Speaker 1: member what your comment was, but it was something like,
Speaker 1: I'm taking stuff all day every day. I don't give
Speaker 1: a funk what you think about CP blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But I it's funny to see that was your that
Speaker 1: was your motive, that was your goal because you knew
Speaker 1: of their uh their existing relationship off the court. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: and I'm mad at that watching Lebron. You're seventeen and
Speaker 1: the fucking amazing season he had him being a personal
Speaker 1: friend to you, What are your thoughts on what he's
Speaker 1: how he's playing in your seventeen at the level he's
Speaker 1: been able to stay man um Lebron he incredible man. Like,
Speaker 1: like everybody appreciate Lebron the basketblayer and all of that,
Speaker 1: I appreciate Lebron the person, but also the discipline that
Speaker 1: he has. You know, like, you're not able to maintain
Speaker 1: the level of greatness that he's been able to maintain
Speaker 1: without the discipline that he has, Like he gotta be
Speaker 1: one of the most disciplined people and players have ever
Speaker 1: graced his lead, you know what I'm saying. And That's
Speaker 1: why he's been able what years, seventeen eighteen, being able
Speaker 1: to maintain this level. It's it's his discipline, you know,
Speaker 1: he is his discipline and commitment to this game. And
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, for me, uh, to build
Speaker 1: a relationship with Lebron Um, you know, it's been a
Speaker 1: special thing, you know, because I've been able to learn
Speaker 1: so much from him on and off the court. You know,
Speaker 1: I kind of Lebron is kind of He's been a
Speaker 1: troilblazer for for athletes as a whole and the way
Speaker 1: we think to that, and you know, I have an
Speaker 1: appreciation for that, And to be honest, I try to
Speaker 1: mock everything he do because I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: he set the standard and giving us all a playbook
Speaker 1: to follow. And in sports, we're so we're we're a
Speaker 1: little fucked up, But you gotta be a little fucked
Speaker 1: up to do what we do, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like to compete the way we compete sometimes with with friends,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, you gotta be able
Speaker 1: to click it off and hate this motherfucker for forty
Speaker 1: eight minutes and then like snap out of it. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like all life, yeah, and so
Speaker 1: we gotta be a little sick, and we all are,
Speaker 1: I think. But uh, and so with Lebron built, I've
Speaker 1: been able to build that relationship with him. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, when we stop on the court, we
Speaker 1: we both mutually know like I will lay you the
Speaker 1: funk up and yeah, and he will fucking run through me.
Speaker 1: And it is what it is. And I hate you
Speaker 1: while we on this court, but because we're trying to
Speaker 1: get the same thing, we're trying to get rings, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, but that but that's the respect
Speaker 1: player showed each other. You know, we we we were cool,
Speaker 1: but were cool off the court. Everybody know that. But
Speaker 1: the respect is shown on the court. And you showed
Speaker 1: me respect by trying to take my head off, because
Speaker 1: that's the same way we supposed approach the game. And
Speaker 1: so for me, you know what I'm saying, like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try to take you out, but then off the
Speaker 1: court is love. And by the way, I'm trying my
Speaker 1: hardest to go through your fucking playbook and still it
Speaker 1: because in sports, you know, as sick as we are
Speaker 1: to turn that off and on, we're also a little
Speaker 1: funked up from the standpoint like, oh, this guy is
Speaker 1: doing that, but why would I go do that? I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go do this, and you know, like, like I've
Speaker 1: said it before publicly, the CEO Apple ain't looking at
Speaker 1: the ceor Google like, oh, well, I'm not gonna do
Speaker 1: that because he's doing it. They may try to add
Speaker 1: their own, you know, something to their service to make
Speaker 1: their service better, but they're not trying to go a
Speaker 1: completely different path. And in sports, we're almost conditioned, Like
Speaker 1: I was. I spoke on the slave mentality before sports,
Speaker 1: we almost got a slave mentality of like, oh, Lebron's
Speaker 1: doing this one, I can't do that? Why the funk not?
Speaker 1: Like it's proven to be fucking great and it's proven
Speaker 1: to be the absolute golden standard of all gold. Why
Speaker 1: not take that fucking playbook and call him and say, yo,
Speaker 1: what would you do in this situation? Why did you
Speaker 1: do this like this? Or you know, like like I
Speaker 1: talked to Brian earlier this year and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I feel like I noticed that you kind of went
Speaker 1: from the villa to like just making everything about fun
Speaker 1: like my far off there, like, and he like I
Speaker 1: had to do that I had to do that to
Speaker 1: rEFInd the love for the game that I had as
Speaker 1: a kid, because that's what drove me my whole life.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, being like the villain was cool for
Speaker 1: a time, but I had to do that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And like, obviously I've been a villain
Speaker 1: for a long time, like all my career pretty much,
Speaker 1: and so just trying to find different ways to pip
Speaker 1: One guy called is one guy that I've watched Lebron
Speaker 1: do it to a fucking t. Why not call him
Speaker 1: an accent? But we're so fucked up as athletes at
Speaker 1: times where it's like I'm not gonna call him an
Speaker 1: accent because that's a sign of weakness, or he's a
Speaker 1: blueprint dog you can't call it next side, then you
Speaker 1: are fucking weak and you try to cover it up.
Speaker 1: You're not strong, and like staying strong, you're you're fucking weaken.
Speaker 1: You're trying to cover up your weakness. He's a blueprint,
Speaker 1: Lebron and blueprint I said all the time. I say,
Speaker 1: it's so many basketball players dre come along with a homeboys,
Speaker 1: try to do this, try to put everybody in place.
Speaker 1: He's the first athlete out of all the athletes that
Speaker 1: came along from the hood to get it right. He
Speaker 1: got his homeboys in place. He made sure everybody in
Speaker 1: the NBA making my life. He's He's changed a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot in the game and for his own people.
Speaker 1: And I've seen so many basketball players coming on, even
Speaker 1: myself that tried to put my people in place and
Speaker 1: couldn't do it right. So he is definitely the blueprint, bro.
Speaker 1: And it makes no sense to get information from somebody
Speaker 1: else when the when the when the blueprint is giving
Speaker 1: away the information. Absolutely, they built, They've built the fucking empire.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. And I mean just another thing. I know
Speaker 1: you're huge. Just how I'm saying. I've heard you speak
Speaker 1: on before, understanding the business of basketball, the empowering yourself
Speaker 1: and what you represent, your CEO of your company. And
Speaker 1: and like we said, he has laid the foundation unlike
Speaker 1: any other athlete in the history of the game, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, he has laid the foundation of mastering. Although
Speaker 1: Jordan had his, you know his Jordan's and Kobe was
Speaker 1: on his path rest in peace. Lebron has showed you
Speaker 1: the business of basketball in several different reunds and how
Speaker 1: being the CEO of my company on this court could
Speaker 1: open up every door in the world for me. And
Speaker 1: no one has done that better than he has. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: it's like I said, it's completely changed the mindset of
Speaker 1: the athlete as a whole. Like, not just basketball players,
Speaker 1: football players, like athletes as a whole. It's completely changed
Speaker 1: the mind of an athlete. And it's and once you
Speaker 1: change the mind, the mind is what gives us power.
Speaker 1: Knowledge is power. And so he's changed the mindset of
Speaker 1: an athlete, which in turn has given us athletes much
Speaker 1: more power. And I I personally, I don't think he'd
Speaker 1: get enough credit for Like, yeah, we give him credit
Speaker 1: because that's how we was raised. Its love, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's love for our brother. But HI
Speaker 1: don't get enough credit for what he's done. And as
Speaker 1: much credit as he gets, he gets credit for being
Speaker 1: a great basketball plaker. Fun that like, he fucking changed
Speaker 1: the mind of an athlete, of the athlete as a whole.
Speaker 1: And that's special, right, It's huge. Talk to us a
Speaker 1: little bit about I mean we talked about obviously off
Speaker 1: the court. Talked to us about on the court, because
Speaker 1: that was your guys, man, you guys met him in
Speaker 1: the finals consistently, and you know you possibly you tell
Speaker 1: me it could have been obviously a three peat. You
Speaker 1: don't get kicked out of the series. Was that was
Speaker 1: that six team? Yeah? Six team? Right, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? So talk to us about what stood out
Speaker 1: the most about going up against him and Kyree and
Speaker 1: and those battles. I think, well, first off, I'll just
Speaker 1: speak on him and Kyrie and theirthing, Like I think
Speaker 1: they kind of had the perfect thing, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, to where like Lebron is fucking great. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He gone the ultimate floor general.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He Lebron can control an
Speaker 1: entire forty eight minute game. I mean we watched him
Speaker 1: do it against Boston, like the game six and seven,
Speaker 1: he played forty eight minutes and he controlled the entire
Speaker 1: place of the game. But he can do that in
Speaker 1: any game. Controlling into absurd and so, which I think
Speaker 1: is what makes them so great. But Kyrie being next
Speaker 1: to him, it kind of took the weight off Kyrie
Speaker 1: to do anything else. But when I give you the
Speaker 1: ball to go score, go score, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I think they kind of had a perfect match
Speaker 1: and it it kind of you know, it happens a
Speaker 1: lot in sports and music where you know someone wants
Speaker 1: more like and you have a matchmate of heaven and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it's broken up to realm.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think that's kind of
Speaker 1: what happened in their situation, and being that they kept
Speaker 1: running up against us, it may have like expediting, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think they had They definitely had a great thing.
Speaker 1: Kyrie kind of came out and said that this year,
Speaker 1: like yo, I had to call a year ago or
Speaker 1: something like, you know, I called Bran and said bad
Speaker 1: And I respect Kyrie for that. But they had a
Speaker 1: real good thing going for sure. And come in love
Speaker 1: with them as well. They like like they were a
Speaker 1: really good team. Um. But you know when when you
Speaker 1: start to talk about like US meeting in the finals,
Speaker 1: like yeah, they had no fucking shot at winning in
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen, like people talk all of oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I blew it three want leave U, Like they was
Speaker 1: coming back here game five and they didn't have a
Speaker 1: fucking clue of how they was gonna win that game.
Speaker 1: I got suspended. They win game five. We're going back
Speaker 1: to Cleveland for game six. Okay, you go back home
Speaker 1: for game six. It's fucking loud as hell. I'm coming
Speaker 1: back from a suspension. Like everything's kind of thrown off.
Speaker 1: They win game six, all three of us know. You
Speaker 1: go to game seven and it's a fucking coin slipping game.
Speaker 1: Any games seven, like you gotta get playing who Game
Speaker 1: seven is a coin flip and show enough. The game
Speaker 1: went down to the wire and Kyrie hit a tough shot.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's game seven, and so
Speaker 1: uh you know, will we have three PtD? Though I
Speaker 1: can't necessarily say we wouldn't have we would have three
Speaker 1: PtD because what I will say is this, and two
Speaker 1: thousands sixteen, two thousand and fifteen, we beat the ship
Speaker 1: out of everybody, and nobody had a clue out how
Speaker 1: to stop us. Two thousand and sixteen, things got a
Speaker 1: little harder, but we were able to figure it out.
Speaker 1: We won uh seventy three games, but like we had to,
Speaker 1: we had to move a lot, Like it wasn't just
Speaker 1: the same exact offense we ran a year before. Like
Speaker 1: it was like Steve Kerr was playing chess and he
Speaker 1: was making great moves, but it was it was always
Speaker 1: a chess match two sixteen. Although we won more games,
Speaker 1: it wasn't as easy. And then we got to the
Speaker 1: I mean can't even remember. In two thousand sixteen, we
Speaker 1: got to Okay see uh, and we were down three one,
Speaker 1: and we kind of switched our matchups back to normal
Speaker 1: and pretty much said, all right, we're gonna as opposed
Speaker 1: to making everybody else beat us and and and trying
Speaker 1: to take Kevin and Russ away. Everybody else was beating us.
Speaker 1: Let's make Kevin and Rust beat us and take everybody
Speaker 1: else away. And it was a fucking chest move by
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr and it worked to fucking perfection and we
Speaker 1: were able to come back and win that series. And
Speaker 1: then we go on to the finals and I get suspended.
Speaker 1: We were gonna win that series, but to say we
Speaker 1: were going to three ft, I'm not sure we would
Speaker 1: have won in two thousand seventeen, because you know, teams
Speaker 1: have started changing. They were preparing for us, like watching
Speaker 1: film on us all summer, and so it was starting
Speaker 1: to get harder. So because we lost in two thousand sixteen,
Speaker 1: we've ben got Kevin, and once we got Kevin. We
Speaker 1: were sucking unstoppable, even losing last year. Kevin, don't get hurt,
Speaker 1: like you see that game and came back game five.
Speaker 1: I looked up there, so we had like forty points
Speaker 1: in the first quarter, and it ses it. They wouldn't
Speaker 1: have stood a chance if Kevin didn't get hurt. But
Speaker 1: you know, ship happens, and that's the part of the game.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Injuries happened, and Kauai was
Speaker 1: fucking amazing. You know what I'm saying, Pascal Siata, they
Speaker 1: were fucking amazing. But you know, to go back to
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen in Lebron, like those matchups in
Speaker 1: the finals with le Bron and Kyrie and now and
Speaker 1: then Lebron by himself, uh or with Kevin loving Kyrie
Speaker 1: is gone, Like they were fucking incredible matchups. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We were able to get the better
Speaker 1: of it. But I don't think we would have lost
Speaker 1: in two thousand and sixteen. I know we wouldn't have lost.
Speaker 1: We would have won game five and it would have
Speaker 1: been over. But ship happens. But two thousand and seventeen
Speaker 1: and eighteen probably wouldn't have been the same either, because
Speaker 1: getting Kevin played a huge role in that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, what does the dynasty end up
Speaker 1: going as long as it did? Probably not, you know,
Speaker 1: but when we got Kevin, it fucking made it. You know,
Speaker 1: it started over, started over because, like I said, you
Speaker 1: you got a chance to win without him. Fifteen sixteen
Speaker 1: you get suspended, you don't win. Seventeen You get him,
Speaker 1: and it turned the world upside down. And we had
Speaker 1: talked to him earlier, earlier, and I want to say
Speaker 1: in January maybe, and how how just the world shift?
Speaker 1: He went from the guy that everyone liked, everyone hated,
Speaker 1: and he came and joined your guys team obviously with
Speaker 1: open arms. Talk to me about that run and all
Speaker 1: the success you guys had, the greatest team ever possibly,
Speaker 1: and then how it ended and and and and how
Speaker 1: you the game you guys got into it, and how
Speaker 1: that process ended up into where we are now. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: So I mean that was that was great, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like for me as a competitor, I'm
Speaker 1: always looking for that next way to get better, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that. So when I signed my contract,
Speaker 1: my first or my second contract, first safe for five
Speaker 1: years eighty two. At the time, my agent was b
Speaker 1: J Armstrong and b J when we met, he had
Speaker 1: the book, you know, like of everybody's books and the
Speaker 1: and lead their salary cheap. And when he when we met,
Speaker 1: he showed me he said, all right, here's y'rr salary,
Speaker 1: here's everybody else salary, and here you are. Now you
Speaker 1: can take the maps and that's fine or next year
Speaker 1: clips Okay, See, this guy is up. And what I
Speaker 1: can tell you is there's a chance y'all can get him.
Speaker 1: And so I'm like, what really, And he like, there's
Speaker 1: a chance y'all can get him. He's like, but Dre,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. Just know that, just you know,
Speaker 1: y'all can use him and it'll be great for y'all.
Speaker 1: And just as much as y'all need him, he needs
Speaker 1: y'all too, And so don't think like, oh, like the
Speaker 1: world is for y'all, like you won championship and like
Speaker 1: y'all can get him. We had just one in fifteen,
Speaker 1: that's when I signed it. Deal. He's like, but just
Speaker 1: as much as you would like to have him, or
Speaker 1: y'all may need him in the future. He needs y'all too,
Speaker 1: And so I'm like, well, shoot, all right, here's what
Speaker 1: you can take, and y'all still be able to get him.
Speaker 1: And so my max was ninety six million. He's like,
Speaker 1: you can take eighty five million and y'all still be
Speaker 1: able to account and direct. So then he gave me
Speaker 1: a blank sheet of paper and he like, write down
Speaker 1: your number what you want real quick? This was before
Speaker 1: the year before you were able to get him. Correct
Speaker 1: is two thousand fifteen? Wow? Early, early, Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: after we won a championship with two thousand fifteen. I'm
Speaker 1: already looking how can we get better and how can
Speaker 1: we win more championships. I'm already on that, you know.
Speaker 1: So I always see this story like, oh, Draymond lost
Speaker 1: and cried to Kevin in the car. First off, I
Speaker 1: ain't crying to no man. First off. Secondly, my mom
Speaker 1: was already on this a whole year before. Like, because
Speaker 1: I'm always looking to get better. You don't win the
Speaker 1: championship and get staggered and you get caught, and so
Speaker 1: right down your number. So I wrote down eighty two
Speaker 1: on a white blank sheet of paper. He's like, okay,
Speaker 1: you're sure you want eighty two. Your max is ninety six,
Speaker 1: you can get eighty five. I'm like, eighty two is cool,
Speaker 1: just eighty two. Just give me eighty two. He said, okay, circling.
Speaker 1: But if you're circling, I'm leaving this room and we're
Speaker 1: gonna get eighty two. I circled it. He took the
Speaker 1: paper and walked out. It was a little standoff for
Speaker 1: a minute with the Warriors. They didn't kind of want
Speaker 1: to budge off seventy. And then an hour or two later,
Speaker 1: once I was about to start, I'll start talking another team,
Speaker 1: and it was done. Now we played that year. We
Speaker 1: went seventy three, all of this the series. So when
Speaker 1: we lost in Game seven, I'm immediately like, ship, what's
Speaker 1: the next move? How do we get better? Oh? Fuck?
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant the free agent, so I leave. I hit
Speaker 1: him up, like yo, what's up? And he liked, Ship, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm ready, And I'm like say that ready, Like, let's
Speaker 1: do it. I talked to staff. It's not now that
Speaker 1: I talked to Clay, let's do it. So then after
Speaker 1: I talked to Kevin, you know, a week passed by, whatnot,
Speaker 1: and I talked to playing stuff again. I'm like yo,
Speaker 1: Andre like, I put them all a group chat and
Speaker 1: Sean like, Yo, y'all really want to get Kevin because
Speaker 1: I think we can get them. And they like, yeah,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, we want them. Say let's let's do it.
Speaker 1: So we rock out. We get them two times and
Speaker 1: seventeen we started the season and Steph and Stephan Clay
Speaker 1: not not Stephan, Clay Clay is Clay. Clay gonna just
Speaker 1: sucking shoot. That's what Clay do. Clay ain't sucking, not
Speaker 1: shooting for nobody. Clay takes some shots at times. I'll
Speaker 1: be like, Yo, Clay, what the fuck. That's a dumb
Speaker 1: blass shot. He said, Dre, they fucking pay me the shoot,
Speaker 1: Say let's Clay go ahead. So so Clay gonna just shoot.
Speaker 1: But Steph and Kevin, obviously they do more with the
Speaker 1: ball than Clay, you know what I'm saying. So they're
Speaker 1: kind of deferring to each other at the beginning of
Speaker 1: that season like, oh, you take it, Ah, you take it.
Speaker 1: And it was sucking us up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So because and so Christmas Day come around and we
Speaker 1: played the Calf and Kyrie hit the little shimmy over
Speaker 1: Clay from the block and it's like, oh, day who
Speaker 1: Kyrie hits the game winner. But we were still kind
Speaker 1: of figuring it out that Christmas Day. And after that
Speaker 1: Christmas Day game, Kevin told Steph like, Yo, I need
Speaker 1: you to fucking play, like, just be you. I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'll be all right, I'll get my shot, I'll get
Speaker 1: the ball. Just go fucking play and do what you do.
Speaker 1: I don't need you to defer to me. I'm good.
Speaker 1: When Kevin told step that, Steph turned up. Kevin was
Speaker 1: being Kevin, and we fucking That's when we took off
Speaker 1: and we end up playing the Cavs that that Jane word,
Speaker 1: um Mark Luther King Dad. We beat there As by
Speaker 1: forty or fifty, and and it was just like, okay,
Speaker 1: now this is what we've been waiting onf Now at
Speaker 1: this point, when does June get here finals this one?
Speaker 1: This ship is over. Kevin is happy as him like,
Speaker 1: not complaining about nothing, like just enjoying playing good basketball.
Speaker 1: And every interview you watch, it's like, yo, I just
Speaker 1: don't want to play the basketball. I am now enjoying
Speaker 1: playing basketball and being with this team. Everything was fucking great,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And we win a championship,
Speaker 1: Kevin went finds m v P. He fucking, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: he got the best Lebron that series, Like Kevin was
Speaker 1: fucking rocket and and we go on and honestly, you
Speaker 1: turned on like after that. That was kind of that
Speaker 1: moment of like, damn, Kevin should be the best player
Speaker 1: in the NBA now because of what he just did Lebron.
Speaker 1: And it's like you turned on the TV the next
Speaker 1: day and every like the fucking the headline is Lebron
Speaker 1: ja still the best player in the world question mark
Speaker 1: like Stephen and you got all these people debating it,
Speaker 1: and everybody still says Lebron James is the best player
Speaker 1: in the world. That's when I kind of felt like
Speaker 1: it took a turn. And then we came back two
Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen, two thousand and eighteen season, and Kevin
Speaker 1: just wasn't as happy, you know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: wasn't as like, self, do what you do, Clay, do
Speaker 1: what you do. All of a sudden, it was kind
Speaker 1: of just like, fun, why why step shooting this shot
Speaker 1: or came pass the ball? Or why play shooting this shot?
Speaker 1: Of why ain't passed the ball, and I'm just sitting
Speaker 1: there like, yo, that's the same play. And Steff I've
Speaker 1: always played with, Like they ain't playing no different than
Speaker 1: they've always playing. And I know those two guys, they're
Speaker 1: definitely not looking you off, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They may not see you because they fucking got tunnal
Speaker 1: vision at times, which old scores do. Got tunnel this
Speaker 1: at that times, and that's why they're great scores. But
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna never just fucking look you off. I
Speaker 1: hadn't play with them since I came in to this league.
Speaker 1: That ain't who they are, but like all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: everything became an issue, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's kind of at this point of like that fucking season.
Speaker 1: I know you probably remember David West saying, like y'all
Speaker 1: don't know the amount of ship that happened for us
Speaker 1: when we went back to back, Like y'all don't know
Speaker 1: the amount of ship that we had to go through
Speaker 1: this year to win this championship. This is amazing that
Speaker 1: we were ever put off because it was all just
Speaker 1: everybody bumping heads all of a sudden, Like Kevin and
Speaker 1: Steve is like this now, all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 1: Stafford Clay or somebody like like take a shot and
Speaker 1: it's a problem all. And it wasn't that the year before.
Speaker 1: It was just like, yo, I'm playing a good basketball.
Speaker 1: I'm happy. And then they kind of changed, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And so we went through that whole season.
Speaker 1: It was tough, and I'm talking to Bob Myers, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I don't think Kevin coming back here. And you know,
Speaker 1: Kevin has said to me once before, like they keep
Speaker 1: this bullshit up, I get out of here, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Me and Katie was real close, you know,
Speaker 1: some always in between everybody talking him off the ledge,
Speaker 1: fucking telling stuff like yo, we need to get k
Speaker 1: and touched, like you know, me and Andre would kind
Speaker 1: of be that guy like, yo, Kevin ain't had to
Speaker 1: touch a place. Let's get let's call some sense for him.
Speaker 1: Because Clay and stuff running rapid right now, and that's
Speaker 1: what they do and that's what makes them great. So
Speaker 1: ain't nobody ever gonna stop them from unarrested. But at times,
Speaker 1: like Andre and myself for Seann, you just have to
Speaker 1: dollar back in like that's the part of play with them.
Speaker 1: It is what it is, and it wasn't a problem
Speaker 1: in two thousand seventeen, but now two thousand and eighteen,
Speaker 1: it's always issue, and so that was a challenge, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying to like just trying to figure out,
Speaker 1: like how is Kevin gonna react to certain ships? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that that would happen with the team,
Speaker 1: or that Steve Kurt would do, Like Steve Kurt would
Speaker 1: call a play for him and he'd be like, I
Speaker 1: don't want you to call a play. I want you
Speaker 1: to fucking make them play the right way. And it's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Like you you say you
Speaker 1: need the ball, and you want the ball, but then
Speaker 1: when I call a play for you, it ain't that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, so what is it?
Speaker 1: It's it's obviously a much bigger problem than just you
Speaker 1: getting the ball, you know what I'm saying. And so
Speaker 1: we go on two thousand and eighteen. However we win it.
Speaker 1: Now I'm like, yo, I don't think he's coming back.
Speaker 1: But the thought of three pet no one does that.
Speaker 1: You got the Lakers, You got sucking bulls. A couple
Speaker 1: of times. You got the Celtics, I think, like, no
Speaker 1: one three peces and so, and the Spurs, as great
Speaker 1: as they were, never three ft. I don't even think
Speaker 1: they ever want to back to back, but they never
Speaker 1: three pets and so. No one does that. So the
Speaker 1: thought of that is like ship, let's go run this
Speaker 1: back and three p and so. I think he came
Speaker 1: back because of that. But his heart wasn't here no more,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like he was kind of
Speaker 1: one ft in and one ft out from the very
Speaker 1: beginning of the season, and in two thousand and nineteen
Speaker 1: is twenty and two tho nineteen kind of one ft
Speaker 1: and one ft out. But the one thing about Kevin
Speaker 1: is he loved a game of basketball and he's going
Speaker 1: to give it one every time he step on the floor.
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk if it's a game, if
Speaker 1: it's a workout like that dude when he worked out.
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all I know, Matt you have stack.
Speaker 1: You probably have in the world. I'm sure haven't. But
Speaker 1: if you watch this dude workout, every rep he do
Speaker 1: is fucking game speed like tons work out. Watch him
Speaker 1: fucking workout it's like mesmerizing, like the fucking heart. Like
Speaker 1: as a basketball player, you and I, all three of
Speaker 1: us know to go every rep game speed in the
Speaker 1: fucking workout. It's just not it's not realistic. But he does.
Speaker 1: I mean, and every fucking rep I've ever seen him
Speaker 1: doing work is game fucking speed, Like it's crazy. And
Speaker 1: so the one thing you could always depend on is
Speaker 1: no matter what, once he stepped on on the court,
Speaker 1: he's gonna bust his ass because that's just who he is.
Speaker 1: That he worked his ass off. But it was kind
Speaker 1: of always commotion all year. And so the beginning of
Speaker 1: the year, I told Bob and Steve, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm struggling with Kevin right now. He kind of not here,
Speaker 1: Like I need some help, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I'm trying and it's frustrating. I need some help.
Speaker 1: And everybody it's like, yeah, okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We understand, we get it all right, cool, but nobody
Speaker 1: did ship and so I'm kind of stuck in this
Speaker 1: position and like, yo, I told you all, I need
Speaker 1: some help, and like she getting tougher and tougher. He
Speaker 1: kind of won for them and one foot out. But
Speaker 1: all right, and so we're going We're playing the Clippers,
Speaker 1: and now at this point, like you know how I
Speaker 1: am like, I'm a roll with you. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I fucking take the bullet for you.
Speaker 1: I'm a fucking I'll take the heat in the media
Speaker 1: for you. I'll take the suspension for you, I'll take
Speaker 1: the fund, I'll take the tech. I'm gonna take whatever
Speaker 1: for my guys. But in return, all I need from you,
Speaker 1: it's just to know that you're with me. I don't
Speaker 1: need you to step in front of me. I just
Speaker 1: need to know you with me. As long as you
Speaker 1: with me, I'll take the bullet. I'll do whatever. And
Speaker 1: so you know, we we're going on. And then in
Speaker 1: that Clipper game, we're coming down to the stretch. When
Speaker 1: I get the rebound, what do I do. I get
Speaker 1: the rebound, I'll push the ball. I find one of them,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I get the rebound,
Speaker 1: I take off, flapping loud and ship and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: come on, I'm taking off. I'm going I started to
Speaker 1: cross over and go across court, and in my mind
Speaker 1: I'm already thinking like oh, he trailing. I'm about to
Speaker 1: cross over and take this guy standing here and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just flip it back. He's gonna step into a three.
Speaker 1: He stepped into a three. Is game over? We out
Speaker 1: of here? He could he kind of he stuck back there,
Speaker 1: clapping and kind of moseying up. So when I go across,
Speaker 1: I'm waiting to flip. He kind of not there, and
Speaker 1: I turned it over and we're going over time. He
Speaker 1: come to the bench and he slapped the Ben's like, yo,
Speaker 1: pass me the fucking ball. And I'm like, yo, what,
Speaker 1: Like I fucking crossed the cross like running sideways across
Speaker 1: the top of the three point line. I'm not clearly
Speaker 1: not about the shoot. And I'm like, if the funk
Speaker 1: out of here, like fucking run then and he like,
Speaker 1: you heard what the funk I said, and slaps the chair.
Speaker 1: Pass me the fucking ball. So when he said pat
Speaker 1: like he's doing that, I'm like, yo, you better like
Speaker 1: calm the funk down. I don't know who the funk
Speaker 1: you talking to. And then that's kind of where I
Speaker 1: went from, Like when I'm like I remember I'm already know,
Speaker 1: like I got to post to this team. I got
Speaker 1: the postal organization. I already know you want for them
Speaker 1: and one for out By the way, I'm the closest
Speaker 1: person here to you, Like when you have a problem
Speaker 1: with ship going on in your life and the person
Speaker 1: you talk to here is me, Like when I'm struggling
Speaker 1: with something, I talked to you, like we got that relationship.
Speaker 1: So I already know you want for them and one
Speaker 1: for everybody else may not know or maybe a secret
Speaker 1: to them, but I know I got the post and
Speaker 1: so that's where it all. Like, I'm like, Yo, who
Speaker 1: the funk you think you're talking to? Like I've been
Speaker 1: then all start before you got here, and no matter
Speaker 1: what I've been doing this, don't talk to me like
Speaker 1: I'm one of these little dudes that just don't know
Speaker 1: how to who. I'm a grown ass man. I've been
Speaker 1: doing this before you got here. You need to come
Speaker 1: to funk down. And that's when you're like and then
Speaker 1: he started cussing back, and I'm cussing back, and then
Speaker 1: the markets pulled me out of the huddle and like, yo,
Speaker 1: calm down, like I feel where you're coming from, but relax,
Speaker 1: like it's too much. But at this point now I'm
Speaker 1: fucking furious. We're going overtime. We ain't said a word
Speaker 1: each other. I think we lost that game and you know,
Speaker 1: we're moving forward, and it just wasn't right. And so
Speaker 1: I met with Steve Kerr and Bob Myers when we
Speaker 1: landed and they're like, they meet with me. My fiance
Speaker 1: was on the team plan with us, and she's sitting
Speaker 1: in the car. I turned the heat off. She's sit
Speaker 1: in the car. I'm thinking to meet, gonna be quit.
Speaker 1: She sleep in the car. I'm in the meeting at
Speaker 1: the airport terminal for like an hour forty five minutes
Speaker 1: with them, and they're pretty much telling me like, you
Speaker 1: were wrong. You apologizing my thing that it was. I
Speaker 1: told you all this, Like so yeah, it boiled over,
Speaker 1: but this shouldn't be no surprise to nobody, Like I
Speaker 1: told y'all what it was coming, and nobody did nothing.
Speaker 1: I told you all this was coming. And so when
Speaker 1: that happened, they were like kept telling me, like, yo,
Speaker 1: you need to apologize, and I'm like, I'm not fucking apologizing,
Speaker 1: like he won for them and one foot all, I
Speaker 1: meant what I said. I'm not sucking apologizing for something
Speaker 1: not meant to say, you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: I'm not apologize. After an hour and forty five minutes,
Speaker 1: they like, you go home, you meet us in the morning,
Speaker 1: you sleep on it, maybe you feel different. And we
Speaker 1: meet and they're like, so you're gonna apologize, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not apologize. Like so then Steve tell me like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, we're gonna suspend you for tonight's game.
Speaker 1: We played the Hawks to night, was on the back
Speaker 1: to back. We're gonna suspend you for a tonice game.
Speaker 1: The Bob said it. I started laughing, and he's like, well,
Speaker 1: that's not the response I expect you to have. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like y'all suspended to me
Speaker 1: to try to save Kevin. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: to try to like make him feel good, because that's bullshit.
Speaker 1: I ain't never seen no player and get suspended for
Speaker 1: arguing with another player, So y'all really trying to save him?
Speaker 1: It is funny to me. He was like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the wrong approach you're taking, or that's like that's not
Speaker 1: the reaction. I said, Well, here's the thing. I'm either
Speaker 1: cut you out for this or I'm a laugh about it.
Speaker 1: I'm choosing the laugh because this is actually funny to
Speaker 1: me that you're suspending me for arguing with a player.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna just laugh about it because it's actually funny.
Speaker 1: So that means then I go home whatever. But I
Speaker 1: told him, I said, you're gonna make a mistake suspending me,
Speaker 1: because the only person that can fix this is me.
Speaker 1: Like y'all can't fix it, y'all, suspending me ain't gonna
Speaker 1: fix it. The only person that can fix it is me.
Speaker 1: And by the way, y'all are going to affect everybody
Speaker 1: else in the organization more than y'all affect me by
Speaker 1: suspending me. Everybody else is gonna be affected, not me.
Speaker 1: I'll be fine. I've been suspended before. I'll be all right.
Speaker 1: I know how to deal with this. Everybody else not
Speaker 1: gonna know how in turn I got to suspended. They
Speaker 1: still did it sure enough. I still had to correct it,
Speaker 1: so nothing happened like I got fined, and yet I
Speaker 1: was still the one that had to go back and
Speaker 1: fix the problem. And so I kind of passed it up,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Made it better, but it
Speaker 1: was never the same after that. But to me, it
Speaker 1: was never it wasn't the same before that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, like it was very easy to
Speaker 1: for you know, for Kevin to say, oh, it wasn't
Speaker 1: the same after that, But as someone who had the
Speaker 1: post of this team and still you know, the post
Speaker 1: of this organization, it wasn't the same before that, and
Speaker 1: it hadn't been the same for at least a year
Speaker 1: at this point. It just had gone from bad to worst.
Speaker 1: But we were so talented that the outside world couldn't
Speaker 1: tell that there was problems. Only we could tell because
Speaker 1: we were still beat the ship out of everybody, because
Speaker 1: we got three of the best force in the league. Like,
Speaker 1: of course everybody else can tell because we're still gonna
Speaker 1: win and we of course we can fuck defend. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just fine. And we may be the exception of
Speaker 1: like you can't win, not on the same page. We
Speaker 1: may be that exception, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: we were just so fucking talented and we were still
Speaker 1: able to win games. But by the play by time
Speaker 1: the playoffs came, we were trying to correct it, but
Speaker 1: it still wasn't right. And then I think game two
Speaker 1: of the Clippers series, uh, which was Kevin's last year here.
Speaker 1: Game two of that series, he kind of quit and
Speaker 1: just was standing in the corner frustrated. And that's it
Speaker 1: literally took some people that long to notice, like, yo,
Speaker 1: something wrong with him. And I'm like, Yo, this is
Speaker 1: the same thing I said in November. And now everybody
Speaker 1: want to come to me like YO, what's wrong with Kevin?
Speaker 1: Or what's this? And what's that? And I'm like, the
Speaker 1: funk are y'all talking about like this? I said this
Speaker 1: in December or November whenever that was November, y'all just
Speaker 1: now seeing this it took for him to go stand
Speaker 1: in the corner and I want the ball for y'all
Speaker 1: to finally see that it ain't the same. I saw
Speaker 1: this a year ago. And so my whole thing with
Speaker 1: the Kevin situation was like it's easy to point the
Speaker 1: finger and say, oh, Drakemond did this, or you know,
Speaker 1: like it wasn't the same for me once he said that.
Speaker 1: What I will say is me and Kevin relationship wasn't
Speaker 1: the same when that happened. But ain't she changed from
Speaker 1: Kevin the basketball player? Me and him just ain't had
Speaker 1: the same closeness that we had off the floor, but
Speaker 1: it ain't changed him as a basketball player and to
Speaker 1: even taking a step furtherest, like oh, Kevin left because
Speaker 1: of Drakemond. Like listen, man, I've done a lot for
Speaker 1: this organization, helped win three titles, helped get the five
Speaker 1: titles back. I grew up in this organization. Bob Myers
Speaker 1: I consider a great friend. I consider Bob a mentor.
Speaker 1: And Bob is somebody that I'll talk to, like after
Speaker 1: he leave go to State, or after I leave go
Speaker 1: to State, or whether I retire here or rather he
Speaker 1: retire here, whatever, I I was gonna talk to Bob
Speaker 1: no matter what, forever, Like he's a friend of mine,
Speaker 1: somebody that I trust his opinion, somebody that understands me,
Speaker 1: like who helped me through life, almost like a life coach.
Speaker 1: We're great friends. But one thing I know about Bob.
Speaker 1: Two things is hey, he's a very honest person. One
Speaker 1: that Bob is one of those people that he don't
Speaker 1: know how to lie, Like he can try to lie
Speaker 1: to you, he don't know how to lie. He gonna
Speaker 1: he gonna try it a lot to your funk around
Speaker 1: and tell you the truth that you probably can't bear
Speaker 1: but that's just vib and if you know Bob, you
Speaker 1: gotta be able to take that. So being that he's
Speaker 1: a great friend and all of that, this is fucking
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant we're talking about, like, yeah, I've done great
Speaker 1: things here. But let me tell you this, I know Bob,
Speaker 1: And if it was such a big deal with Kevin
Speaker 1: me here and me being here, is Kevin really wanted
Speaker 1: to be here? All all he would have done is
Speaker 1: when and said to Bob like, yeah, I'll be I'll stay,
Speaker 1: but Draymond gotta go. And guess what by My would
Speaker 1: have called me and said, Draymond, I love you and
Speaker 1: I won't trace you to a bad team, but where
Speaker 1: do you want to go? Because I'll help you get
Speaker 1: to where you want to go. And so to try
Speaker 1: to you know, point the finger and say, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I left because him might get the funk out of here,
Speaker 1: Like and I still love k you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: you know his his feelings about me may not be
Speaker 1: the same, but I'll robbing him for the rest of
Speaker 1: my life, you know what I'm saying. Like I got
Speaker 1: that type of love for that bro. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But but you ain't leaving because of me,
Speaker 1: like you're sucking Kevin Durrett. You wanted to be here,
Speaker 1: I would have been out. If I was the issue,
Speaker 1: I would have been long gone. And guess who would
Speaker 1: have understood that? You? I understand that. I like I
Speaker 1: understand the business of basketball. I understand how this ship works.
Speaker 1: If Kevin Durrett want to be somewhere and he don't
Speaker 1: want me here, I'm out. So the whole, you know,
Speaker 1: the whole narrative of like he left because of me,
Speaker 1: Like I haven't said much about it all year, you know,
Speaker 1: and so I just kind of let people talk. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But if I'm gonna talk about it,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about it with two people, two brothers.
Speaker 1: I respect, you know what I'm saying, and get it
Speaker 1: getting real. But he ain't sucking leave because of me.
Speaker 1: He was one ft in the one foot out and
Speaker 1: he left because he wanted to leave. Because if he
Speaker 1: wanted to be here and me being here was an issue,
Speaker 1: I would have been out. And that's just the real.
Speaker 1: Tell me what it's been like trying to navigate truth.
Speaker 1: You could you kind of touched on the drag you
Speaker 1: said you just sat back when a lot of like
Speaker 1: bullshit was told, fake story ship, you know it wasn't
Speaker 1: true to kind of just sit back and take that.
Speaker 1: And because it's hard to do and not a lot
Speaker 1: of people could do it, speak on that, not only
Speaker 1: just in the Kevin, not only in the Kevin situation,
Speaker 1: but just overall. I mean, you've had so much negative
Speaker 1: stuff and you're this and you're that, and like I said,
Speaker 1: being on the inside. We know what you mean to
Speaker 1: that franchise and they obviously know what you mean. But
Speaker 1: explain how you were able to navigate through all the
Speaker 1: bullshit that was said about your lies said about you
Speaker 1: by the media. Oh well, I think for me, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of always take the approach like
Speaker 1: and it's kind of been me my whole life of
Speaker 1: like i'd rather you than me, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So like i'd rather you be good, and like they
Speaker 1: tell the good story about you and tell the bad
Speaker 1: one for me about me, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I can take that. Like, you know, some people
Speaker 1: may need people to praise them to feel good, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like they need that to boost
Speaker 1: their confidence. People praising me don't do nothing for me,
Speaker 1: you know, and so um, you know, for for me personally,
Speaker 1: it's just been kind of like I'll take the bullet
Speaker 1: and I'm not about to get in a back and
Speaker 1: forth with you all about what you may think, because
Speaker 1: one thing I also know is like to change, like
Speaker 1: you're not just changing somebody mind. Like what people think
Speaker 1: is what they think and it is this. So why
Speaker 1: would I waste my time trying to tell people what
Speaker 1: the truth is or tell people how they should feel
Speaker 1: or what they should see. Like that's your own this
Speaker 1: and if that's what you see, then then it is
Speaker 1: what it is. And so you know, I've never really
Speaker 1: kind of got all off into that, like I'm the
Speaker 1: same I'm the same person that used to get in
Speaker 1: trouble by my mom because I'll give like a kid
Speaker 1: my last dollar, you know what I'm saying. It's like,
Speaker 1: stop giving somebody your lives dollar. I'm like, well I
Speaker 1: don't need it, Like I'm gonna find another dollar like
Speaker 1: they needed that dollar, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: that's just kind of how I am to my court.
Speaker 1: That's who I've always been, and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: then you start to build relationships with certain people, and
Speaker 1: once you build a relationship, then my heart really take off.
Speaker 1: You know. So I got a big heart, and so
Speaker 1: once I build a relationship with you, I'm really gonna
Speaker 1: take the far for you to take the bullet and
Speaker 1: let you just keep going, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So whether it's the truth of what everybody believe or not,
Speaker 1: then that's the truth, and let them believe that. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Whether you know the real truth
Speaker 1: or not, it's one thing. But what one thing for
Speaker 1: me is like who who need to know the real truth?
Speaker 1: Which is other people who may be a balled or whatever,
Speaker 1: they know the real truth. And that's enough for me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's enough gradication, gratification for me.
Speaker 1: That's enough for me to feel good that I'm helping
Speaker 1: somebody else. It's the same way in basketball. It's like
Speaker 1: I get more out of getting an assistance start a point.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like when I get an assist, I
Speaker 1: scored the point because I helped somebody else score. And
Speaker 1: so that's just kind of how I always been. I
Speaker 1: ain't you know, I am not gonna fight for somebody
Speaker 1: to see it in my way or believe what I believe,
Speaker 1: or to even know the truth. Like, if that's your truth,
Speaker 1: that's your truth, go ahead and roll with it. Facts. Uh.
Speaker 1: Two thousand eighteen, UM kind of started a beef between
Speaker 1: or you didn't start it, but a beef was started
Speaker 1: between you and Charles Barkley. UM talking about he would
Speaker 1: have punched you in the face on some ship after
Speaker 1: you got into a rondo. You go back in the
Speaker 1: post game and motherfucking punched me. Then talk to me
Speaker 1: about what that has been like, because it's interesting and
Speaker 1: ha ha. But me was like, on the inside, we
Speaker 1: have a perspective too, But talk to me about what
Speaker 1: that ship is like. I'm laughing, I'm laughing. I'm just laughing.
Speaker 1: I had to. I had to look away because I've
Speaker 1: seen this space to look away inside it. I got
Speaker 1: a lot of respect to Charles Barkley, the basketball player man.
Speaker 1: As a fan of basketball growing up, Charles Barkley was
Speaker 1: a great basketball player. Um, he never won ship and
Speaker 1: you know his Charles Barkley has kind of had this
Speaker 1: beef with me since I started coming up. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I started coming up in this league,
Speaker 1: it's always him throwing a shot, throwing the shot, throwing
Speaker 1: the shot. For years, I didn't respond, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, It's just like whatever. You know, Charles Barkin,
Speaker 1: great player, Like I'm not going to respond whatever, and
Speaker 1: it's just keep throwing a shot, throwing the shot. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it's jealousy, you know what I'm saying. It's jealousy that
Speaker 1: somebody the same size as him or smaller uh to
Speaker 1: come in to league and have the success I had,
Speaker 1: make the money I've made, when the championships I've won,
Speaker 1: these are all things that Charles Barkley wasn't able to do,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like now, granted, he made
Speaker 1: a lot of money for his time, but you and
Speaker 1: I both know the money has changed. All three of
Speaker 1: us know has changed in this league. It's not the same.
Speaker 1: So it's not my fault that I benefited from the
Speaker 1: money going up and I came in the error. And
Speaker 1: that's when my mom birth need to come up in
Speaker 1: this error that you know I've made more money than you,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Or you know, Charles Barkley
Speaker 1: is kind of like a lot of these fans like
Speaker 1: he scored more points than me. Alright, cool, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But I don't necessarily mean you have
Speaker 1: more impact on the game than me, And so you know,
Speaker 1: I can I can come. You know, I feel like
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of jealousy involved, and for me personally,
Speaker 1: I just hope to never be that guy. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying that someone who may do TV or you know,
Speaker 1: after I'm done playing, Like, I just don't never want
Speaker 1: to be that guy. Like I'm always the guy trying
Speaker 1: to look out for the young guy strow, the young
Speaker 1: guy ball. Like I'm like, yeah, speak the truth on basketball.
Speaker 1: All you don't say, speak the facts. But I think
Speaker 1: we all knowing it's no secret that Charles Barkley don't
Speaker 1: study basketball. Like Charles Barkley get up there and talk
Speaker 1: out the side of his neck. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't have an issue with somebody critiquing my game
Speaker 1: like a fucking athlete. Like, of course somebody on critique
Speaker 1: my critique by game all you want, because guess what,
Speaker 1: as I got flaws in my game and my job
Speaker 1: my profession, so does everybody else in there critique my game?
Speaker 1: But he liked to throw shots and ship, and it's like, bro,
Speaker 1: the jealousy gotta stop. Like I'm a young black man
Speaker 1: that came up after you. You essentially paved the way.
Speaker 1: Appreciate the way that you've paid to stop sucking hate,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's kind of my
Speaker 1: thing with Charles Barkley. You know what I'm saying, it
Speaker 1: ain't be because if it was beef. I've seen Charles
Speaker 1: Barkley a million times like he never you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, But you just sit up there talking out
Speaker 1: the side of your net. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was kind of similar to like I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not similar from a jealousy standpoint of like money because
Speaker 1: we know it ain't that, or like fame or championships
Speaker 1: because you know it ain't that. But it was like
Speaker 1: shock with JaVale McGee when he kept making fun of him,
Speaker 1: and Javelle kind of came out and was like, yo,
Speaker 1: like you're affecting my career. I respect the funk out
Speaker 1: of shot. He pulled back because he's like, damn all right, respect,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I respect that, and
Speaker 1: I just you know. That's why I got a lot
Speaker 1: of respect for y'all and a lot of respect Steve Smith,
Speaker 1: like some of the older guys shot God show love man.
Speaker 1: Like we all young black men who most of us
Speaker 1: that made it out the hood to make millions of
Speaker 1: dollars to be able to provide for our family, to
Speaker 1: be able to provide for others, you know, through donations
Speaker 1: and smiles that you put on on other people's faces.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you got another black man who's paved the
Speaker 1: way essentially just fucking hate. Like I hate trying to
Speaker 1: trying to make you, trying to make you the butter
Speaker 1: his jokes all the time. Yea, Like I hate when
Speaker 1: older guys who's been through and start sucking hating like this.
Speaker 1: You know, we all talked about their fraternity and this
Speaker 1: brotherhood that the NBA is, But yeah, we'll get up
Speaker 1: there and like ship on each other and like, like
Speaker 1: you said, trying to make the butt of the joke.
Speaker 1: If you're critiquing basketball, man, do what you gotta do.
Speaker 1: I respect that, you know what I'm saying. You gotta
Speaker 1: say somebody fucking sucks, say that. You know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: there's a way of critiquing basketball and not trying to
Speaker 1: shoot on someone, and he just always trying to ship
Speaker 1: like he's he's he. We deal without enough from the
Speaker 1: media in general, exactly deal with that from one of
Speaker 1: your own, you know what I'm saying. So it just
Speaker 1: bothers me that, like from one of your own, you
Speaker 1: have to deal with the same bullshit that you have
Speaker 1: to deal with from a lot of people. When you, hey, bro,
Speaker 1: you was that same guy that they did the same
Speaker 1: ship too. You should understand it differently. But yet you
Speaker 1: get up there and hate and talk out the side
Speaker 1: of your fucking net. I just don't respect that, and
Speaker 1: so it's no beef. I just don't have I don't
Speaker 1: have respect for that because we're one and the same.
Speaker 1: And yet you get up there, fucking Hayden like that,
Speaker 1: like bro, show love give back to the guy who
Speaker 1: came after you. Pete Myers told me my first second
Speaker 1: year in the league, my assistant coach, he said, Draymond,
Speaker 1: your job is to get paid for the next young
Speaker 1: dude to get paid, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I embody that and I I just don't respect the
Speaker 1: fucking Hayden that he does. And like trying to show guys.
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, you had your time. It was great.
Speaker 1: As a basketball player. I appreciate you. I watched you
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, Like, I appreciate you as
Speaker 1: a basketball player, but as a fucking hater, I just
Speaker 1: got no respect for that. That was the one the
Speaker 1: one way I think you hit it on the head perfect.
Speaker 1: The way I always looked at it from the beginning
Speaker 1: was we we gotta take enough of this ship from
Speaker 1: motherfucking fans that don't know ship and then media who's
Speaker 1: never played to understand what it takes every day, day
Speaker 1: and day out, off season, regular season, what it takes
Speaker 1: to be in this position. Although yes he was a
Speaker 1: great but for for me to see any kind of
Speaker 1: older player. You may think it, you may this, but
Speaker 1: just to get on TV and blatantly just be disrespectful,
Speaker 1: that's where you lost me. Because Charles is supposed to
Speaker 1: know like what this motherfucking grind is about and how
Speaker 1: much outside bullshit we have to take so to get
Speaker 1: it from one of our own is you can miss
Speaker 1: me with that ship. That that that's that's what I
Speaker 1: don't agree with absolutely. I think if you you could
Speaker 1: probably put put somebody can put a compilation together of
Speaker 1: all the ship that Charles Barkley has said about me
Speaker 1: since I started to come up, and I guarantee you
Speaker 1: you play that ship. It's just hate. Like it's not
Speaker 1: like it's not critiquing fucking basketball. God, I don't even
Speaker 1: watch the games, like it's just fucking hate. But you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that it is what it is like,
Speaker 1: it ain't you know, it ain't no love lost on
Speaker 1: myn Like, I respect you as a basketball player, but
Speaker 1: I can't respect you as a as a as a
Speaker 1: as a black trailblazer. You know what I'm so, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't respect you as that because I watch you
Speaker 1: constantly hate on young black men that came after you
Speaker 1: and it's not you know, and and a lot on myself.
Speaker 1: And I feel like he got the same problem with
Speaker 1: me that a lot of people in the world has.
Speaker 1: It's like, how the fund has he made so much money?
Speaker 1: How the fund has he been all Star? How the
Speaker 1: fund is he have this much success and he don't
Speaker 1: score points? Well, hey, that's what it did. Well, look,
Speaker 1: we we did. We We were only raised that that
Speaker 1: crucify each other when we're not even guilty for Ship.
Speaker 1: Like one thing I like what love about our showing men, Matt,
Speaker 1: and we thank for to have guests like you. I
Speaker 1: ain't was never to bring people on our show to
Speaker 1: demean them to make us look good. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We were We are players that didn't have
Speaker 1: that outlet when we were playing to speak our minds
Speaker 1: when people was bashing us in the media and making
Speaker 1: us look like something we wasn't. So so I hate.
Speaker 1: I hate when brothers, especially, I feel like they got
Speaker 1: to demean somebody else to make themselves look good. But really,
Speaker 1: to the real ones, you look like ship, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And as players, a lot of players
Speaker 1: go through that. And I'm glad we have the platform
Speaker 1: so you can come over here and speak this real
Speaker 1: and people can really see how you look at situations. Absolutely, man,
Speaker 1: I appreciate this platform because y'all know we we we
Speaker 1: need ship like this, you know what I'm saying, We
Speaker 1: don't quite get this often, and you know, like this
Speaker 1: platform uninterrupted With that, Mibra, Carter and Lebron started, we
Speaker 1: get to tell our story, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that we get the control the narrative. So many times
Speaker 1: we stuck were telling the story and we answering one question,
Speaker 1: and what's written is something, what's written is of course,
Speaker 1: I wanted to to take the answer to a completely
Speaker 1: different question and put it on the answer to they one,
Speaker 1: and then it's not necessarily our words, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I appreciate you all for understanding that
Speaker 1: we need this. You know, that was our goal when
Speaker 1: we talked about this, you know, because obviously I think
Speaker 1: there was a misconception of who me and Jack was.
Speaker 1: Jack was abled at THUB because he helped his teammate.
Speaker 1: He also got a couple shootouts and did a couple
Speaker 1: of other things, but he was able to I gotta
Speaker 1: lab it for doing what I did on the court
Speaker 1: and off the court or whatever. But it was such
Speaker 1: a misconception who we were. So I've loved all of
Speaker 1: our interviews, but there's certain interviews such as this one
Speaker 1: for you to be able to speak your truth because
Speaker 1: I know you well. You know, we talked, and like
Speaker 1: I said, I see a lot of me and Jack
Speaker 1: and you and vice versa. So for you to be
Speaker 1: out there, come out here and tell your truth and
Speaker 1: and and and humanize yourself to a standard to this show.
Speaker 1: You you carry yourself, although you were three time champion
Speaker 1: all start, you carry yourself like a regular man. You like.
Speaker 1: You don't think you're no better than no one else.
Speaker 1: You just you. You're a good person, you know, so
Speaker 1: to me, I I I take it too hard because
Speaker 1: when I hear people talking about my friends, I'm ready
Speaker 1: to fight for him, just like everyone else in this
Speaker 1: chat is. But I think there's such a misconception of
Speaker 1: who Draymond Green really is. And I'm glad that you
Speaker 1: took the time with us to kind of tell your
Speaker 1: side because too often, like you said, you're not someone
Speaker 1: that really gives a funk if everyone else knows. But
Speaker 1: it's good for everyone else to know what kind of
Speaker 1: person you are, because I think there is a misconception
Speaker 1: of who you are. Absolutely, no doubt, no doubt. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that, man, you know. It's like you said, I
Speaker 1: don't say it often, you know, but it do feel
Speaker 1: good to you know, get that off my chest, are
Speaker 1: a certain off my chest a little bit. I kind
Speaker 1: of just internalized everything, you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: I'll be cool, it is what it is. But you
Speaker 1: know that that that is a good show. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: we're coming down to quick hitters. But one quick before
Speaker 1: we hit our quick hitters, talk to us about de
Speaker 1: Marcus Cousins, someone you battled against, someone I played, you know,
Speaker 1: great dude, another misunderstood person. For him to be able
Speaker 1: to come to you guys, off a fucked up injury,
Speaker 1: all the ship he went through to try to bring
Speaker 1: himself back on the court, for them to not win
Speaker 1: the championship, him to move on and get hurt again.
Speaker 1: Talk to us what that relationship was like with him
Speaker 1: and how you saw his up and down roller coaster go.
Speaker 1: We've got are always had a pretty good relationship. We
Speaker 1: play against each other, we get into it, you know,
Speaker 1: every time, and it was always love, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, But there was always a mutual respect. And
Speaker 1: then we played in the in the Olymprites together in
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen, and we both didn't even bigger bond. Uh.
Speaker 1: Then the opportunity came where you know, things weren't going away.
Speaker 1: He's playing and we had the opportunity to get him,
Speaker 1: and Bob Myers called me, I think I was a
Speaker 1: center in Greece, and uh, having dinner and I'm like, yeo,
Speaker 1: I gotta take this call. And he's like, yo, we
Speaker 1: can get to market. He's like Draymond. He's he's like
Speaker 1: out of broth, Like Draymond, You'll never believe what's going
Speaker 1: on back here. But we could get to Marcus Cousins.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Bob, what like? He's like, we could get
Speaker 1: to Marcus Cousins. Like what you want? I'm like hell yeah.
Speaker 1: Like he's like, all right, Well, he thinks you and
Speaker 1: Kevin may not like him because of him and Kevin
Speaker 1: getting into it this year, so you may have to
Speaker 1: call him. Let me know. So hour ago by he
Speaker 1: like I need to call him. I calling like, yo,
Speaker 1: what's up, Let's do it? And you know, and he
Speaker 1: ended up coming here. Uh. De Markets is one of
Speaker 1: those people who is extremely misunderstood. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying here a big kid here, a big kid and
Speaker 1: and for for lack of a better turn, and I
Speaker 1: mean absolutely no disrespect by it. He's a big teddy
Speaker 1: man all people here, gonna take care of people. He's
Speaker 1: gonna do like right by everybody. Like he's a great person. Man.
Speaker 1: He's so misunderstood because once again, how he played a
Speaker 1: game of basketball, how he did his job, how he
Speaker 1: do what he loved. He wears emotions on his sleeve
Speaker 1: and where it sometimes ball over, like people judge him
Speaker 1: and try to make him out to be this bad
Speaker 1: person and create their own there. De Markets is a
Speaker 1: great person man, a great player, and honestly, you know what,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see him get back to where
Speaker 1: he was, you know what I'm saying, because he for
Speaker 1: a long time and still to this day, because that
Speaker 1: don't talent don't change. It's one of the most talent
Speaker 1: to players in the NBA, Like I mean, fucking great,
Speaker 1: great talent, and it's completely misunderstood and and really a
Speaker 1: part of a huge part of misunderstanding is people are
Speaker 1: fucking fearious, fearful, Like there's some scary eyes people in
Speaker 1: this world, and they're fucking afraid of him. So as
Speaker 1: opposed to getting to know him, they put their hands up,
Speaker 1: they're fearful, and then they create this narrative of who
Speaker 1: they want him to be as opposed to really getting
Speaker 1: to know him, the person taking the time. I mean,
Speaker 1: even you look at years in Sacramento, a bunch of
Speaker 1: different coaches, the one coach that got to know him
Speaker 1: was Mike Malone, and guess what they were all they
Speaker 1: went to the playoffs and Mike Malone got fired, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like people are so
Speaker 1: fucking afraid of people that and of these narratives that's
Speaker 1: already been painted that they then just throwing people right
Speaker 1: in the box that everyone else is trying to throw
Speaker 1: him into as opposed to getting to know him, Like
Speaker 1: is he competitive as hell? Yes? Does his emotions get
Speaker 1: the best of him that time? Yes, So there's a
Speaker 1: lot of the rest of us, you know, but all
Speaker 1: of us and for for everybody else is just not
Speaker 1: seen in front of millions of people, right, Like, so
Speaker 1: your emotions get to still over and the comfort of
Speaker 1: your own home or the world office by yourself with
Speaker 1: the door closed, you know what I'm saying. Here's just
Speaker 1: happened to be in front of millions of people on
Speaker 1: this stage where everybody is writing about it and creating
Speaker 1: these narratives. But it's bullshit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He's one of the best people I know, and they
Speaker 1: can create whatever narratives they want about him in basketball.
Speaker 1: I'm rolling with it because he's a good person and
Speaker 1: it's very hard in this world today to find good people.
Speaker 1: M hm, beautifully said, Man beautifully said, all right, last
Speaker 1: Porsche right here, Man are quick hitter questions. We're gonna
Speaker 1: ask you questions back and forth. You just ask for him,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna wrap this motherfucker interview up. It has
Speaker 1: been an amazing interview, man, So thank you for all
Speaker 1: the time. This is probably one of our longer interviews. Man,
Speaker 1: but you've kept us entertained, so appreciate. I need to
Speaker 1: light of joint right now. My high, My high is gone.
Speaker 1: But speaking of that real quick, before you get quick,
Speaker 1: what is your what is your position on cannabis in sports? Oh?
Speaker 1: I think you know when you start to really do
Speaker 1: the you know, do the research and you know, looking
Speaker 1: on things like the one thing I do know is
Speaker 1: all these pain killers that they give us to get
Speaker 1: the season. That ain't it? It ain't it? Like you know,
Speaker 1: they give us all these anti inflammatories and there there's
Speaker 1: people get tore it all shot. If there's a shot
Speaker 1: that can make you feel nothing for six to eight
Speaker 1: up and they're playing the whole game and not feel it.
Speaker 1: And by the way, after that motherfucker. We're off. You
Speaker 1: feel like you got hit by a truck. Addicted, you addicted,
Speaker 1: you addicted. They can't be good for me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you know, I look at it
Speaker 1: like like, after all the research that's been done, it's
Speaker 1: it's now legalized, and I don't know, maybe over half
Speaker 1: the states. I don't know the numbers. I don't study it,
Speaker 1: you know, but if you're if you're going to continue
Speaker 1: to give guy's towards shots and anti inflammatories, like something
Speaker 1: gotta give because it has not proven to be as
Speaker 1: bad as that, And that is one thing I know
Speaker 1: for sure that hasn't improven to have the same side
Speaker 1: effects that that should have. So you know, you're pro
Speaker 1: they tell you know, they talk about you get too
Speaker 1: many toward offs. Shots said start to affect your kidneys
Speaker 1: and your living life. Well, it hasn't proven to do that,
Speaker 1: So I don't, uh, you know, I think you know
Speaker 1: a lot of and and a lot of rules we go,
Speaker 1: you know, we go by our old and outdated and
Speaker 1: a lot of people be afraid to be except to
Speaker 1: change that or to even accept the change. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, when when we look at our league as
Speaker 1: a whole um. And I know they're having the conversations.
Speaker 1: And I've seen Adam talking about it publicly. M I've
Speaker 1: seen as beautiful Una say Hi, what's up guy? Okay,
Speaker 1: let me finish. Baby. You know you look at Adam Silver. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know Adam is a trouble place. Uh. He ain't
Speaker 1: afraid to make a decision. He ain't afraid to get
Speaker 1: out of in front of things. I wouldn't be shocked
Speaker 1: if that's the next thing coming soon. I love it
Speaker 1: hopefully like quick hitters, real quick. Who should be our
Speaker 1: next guest on All the Smoke? Next guests on All
Speaker 1: the Smoke? Jay Z? Oh, nice artist, artists, we might
Speaker 1: need your help, might need you. We might need your help.
Speaker 1: If you got a line on him, we might need you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a line. I got somebody with a line
Speaker 1: to him. But I think that great man chopping up
Speaker 1: with jay Z and about a month ago, a month
Speaker 1: and a half, two months ago now at his very
Speaker 1: fair party. Man. I always respected jay Z, but just
Speaker 1: his mindset man as a black man, black billionaire Yo,
Speaker 1: jay Z, for sure, I got the utmost respect for
Speaker 1: that man. Good call artists, A song gonna repeat artists
Speaker 1: a song gonna repeat. Oh man, I gotta go with
Speaker 1: Drake tise slide right now there everybody trying to get
Speaker 1: it down before I got before I put it on
Speaker 1: TikTok man, that's the guy's gonna be my debut, man, Man,
Speaker 1: Drake is a genius. Man, he's definitely changing genius. And
Speaker 1: you guys just friendship. You guys have a crazy back
Speaker 1: and for a friendship. But that's for another time. What
Speaker 1: are you currently binge watching. I'm currently binge watching Ozark
Speaker 1: and All American. I'm binge watching both both. Yance went
Speaker 1: ahead and watched All American without me, so I'm catching
Speaker 1: up on that and we're watching Ozark together. They both right.
Speaker 1: All American is dope, super dope. Yeah, oz are because
Speaker 1: that ship, it starts a little slow, and it losing
Speaker 1: some people, and I'm telling you, like, get them in
Speaker 1: first handful of episodes once that ship get rolling. Manah,
Speaker 1: it's good. I'm I'm in the middle of the season
Speaker 1: two and that oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. I
Speaker 1: just finished season three like last week. You're gonna love it. Yeah, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: you gotta. I can't even see my screen. My favorite
Speaker 1: Quarantine snack. What do you? What do you? What's your
Speaker 1: quarantine snack? What you go to? My favorite quarantine snack,
Speaker 1: which I'm actually giving up today because they're killing me.
Speaker 1: It's how cheatose man, Bro. I wish I could eat him. Bro.
Speaker 1: I'm getting older. I get I gotta get away from
Speaker 1: spicy foods. But that's one thing I hated giving away
Speaker 1: with spicy cheetos back. And they're killing me though, so
Speaker 1: I got I'm giving them up today. Man, I'm having
Speaker 1: my last back today, my last back today before we
Speaker 1: get out of your man. We officely has lost someone
Speaker 1: in our community. Condolences the car Anthony Town's mom, who
Speaker 1: unfortunately passed away from COVID nineteen yesterday. Very unfortunate. Our
Speaker 1: hearts and prayers go out to him and his family
Speaker 1: and his close ones. Crazy and then obviously your sweatshirt man,
Speaker 1: Rest in peace to our God Cob. And it was
Speaker 1: Boots and that helicopter crash. Man. It just shows. I
Speaker 1: think this quarantine has showed, excuse me, this pandemic is showed.
Speaker 1: And just two thousand twenties hard. I wish we could
Speaker 1: throw this motherfucking year away because it's been horrible, but
Speaker 1: it just shows man, life is short and appreciate this ship.
Speaker 1: And I think this quarantine and being with your family
Speaker 1: is allowing people, like we said earlier, to step off
Speaker 1: the hands for with man. Smell the roses, look at
Speaker 1: the sunset, enjoy the beauty and the essence of this
Speaker 1: life we have because we've been shown it. Any time, man,
Speaker 1: ship can change. Absolutely definitely, Peter Code and g G
Speaker 1: and everyone else involved in that crash, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't think none of us has recovered from that yet.
Speaker 1: And then my heart goes out to call towns man
Speaker 1: as someone who you know as as a basketball player.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us has used basketball in
Speaker 1: our lives as an escape, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So to not only lose his mother, but to not
Speaker 1: even have what's the natural escape for him available to him, man,
Speaker 1: my heart, Yeah, man, his family. Man, It's it's a
Speaker 1: tough time, man. And I mean, you figured look at it.
Speaker 1: That's two things that is dear near and dear to
Speaker 1: his heart that's been taken away from him in the
Speaker 1: last month. Man, some my heart definitely goes out to him. Yeah. Absolutely, man.
Speaker 1: Well fuck, that's a rap great episode, um, Jack Good job, Draymond,
Speaker 1: thank you for thanks. We appreciate you, man. That's a
Speaker 1: wrap special quarantine editional with NBA Champion and Defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year Draymond Green. Um. You can catch this
Speaker 1: on Showtime Basketball, YouTube or all platforms, dreaming podcasts, all
Speaker 1: of them shout out. D appreciate you, bro, appreciate you,
Speaker 1: b Thank you. This life is all I ever wanted.
Speaker 1: I'm not leaving, not yet. I was hoping you say
Speaker 1: that we gotta hit the streets, make some money. People
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