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Speaker 1: This life was all I ever wanted. I'm not leaving,

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Speaker 1: Let's destroyed. Maybe like kep By coll Up. Get Showtime

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Speaker 1: free at Showtime dot com. My brother Jack back All

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Speaker 1: Smoke just getting started, Baby, just getting started. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to a special quarantine edition of All the Smoke. Jack.

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Speaker 1: What's up, bro, my brother? How you doing out there? Man? Hey, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm starting to lose my mind in here. Man. What

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Speaker 1: you're doing? Is it? Is it happening? I'm good man

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Speaker 1: to be honest, like I said, I love it, man.

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Speaker 1: I love to be able to sit kicking with the

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Speaker 1: But just had all three boys last week, and although

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Speaker 1: soon as those motherfucker's leave on Monday, I'm like yes.

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Speaker 1: But then as soon as they leave and I go

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So it's like that, So

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Speaker 1: now I already missed them. But it's good man, I'm

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Speaker 1: happy we'll still being able to shoot the show. That's

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Speaker 1: been a blessing. Everybody's really been working with what we're doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the best part. A lot of people saying we've

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Speaker 1: been saving them, but just y'all just don't know this show.

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Speaker 1: I'm saving us. To have been able to continue to

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Speaker 1: been a blessed for everybody. So let's keep this thing rocket.

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Speaker 1: And I was also comingment you on your motherfucking you're

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Speaker 1: great on your beard is looking spectacular. I thought you

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Speaker 1: had some some product in there. You said, that's just natural,

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Speaker 1: that's all natural. But it's you know what's that's why

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Speaker 1: actual hair on my head? I don't know how that works.

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Speaker 1: It's tough. Appreciate that you gave me on the show too.

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Speaker 1: I looked like uh, people say, I look like a

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Speaker 1: dirty Mexican. When my ships started growing in patches and

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Speaker 1: thick right here. What the dude say last night? What

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Speaker 1: do he called my ship? Uh? He said? He said

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Speaker 1: he said, you looking like uh captain, the captain of

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Speaker 1: the Budapest soccer team. And he was Baron David's happy

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Speaker 1: shout out, Baron David's happy birthday. Bro, he's on this live,

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Speaker 1: He's on his zoom party. Last night, he had these

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Speaker 1: motherfucking comedians. Bro. When I tell you, everybody that came

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what to dude. I just got

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Speaker 1: I just got these motherfucker's coming at me left the right.

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Speaker 1: They was talking about Monte's edge of the Monte go

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Speaker 1: someone that I funk with a lot. Because I see

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Speaker 1: team all embodied our next guests mentality, hunger, focused, desire, fight,

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Speaker 1: and this is the place to do it. My brother, Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Was a great Martin thing, Like this ship was dope.

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Speaker 1: Jack had candy to eat everywhere. If you're a cannabis smoker,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the funk you just said. What

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Speaker 1: you you committed to Kentucky. And she fucking went crazy

425
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 1: like how dare you do that? You never talk to

426
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 1: me about it this time? The other like lou who's

427
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 1: my high school coach, They don't run you on me

428
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 1: a fucking um all this stuff, and I'm just like whoa.

429
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 1: So for me, it's like the happiest time in my life.

430
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: You feel me like I'm committed to Kentucky. But she's

431
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 1: fucking grilling me. So like a weekend and a week

432
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: and a half later she goes, she drive down and

433
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: go to a game by herself with my father. They

434
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: met down and went to the game and she came

435
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,919
Speaker 1: back and she was in tears and she was like, yo,

436
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm not happy that you did that without me,

437
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 1: but I see like why you committed it. It's amazing

438
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 1: down there and I'm happy for you. And so time

439
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: went on, you know what I'm saying, And then we

440
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 1: get to March and Tubby called me. Now we're in

441
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 1: the we're in the state playoffs, we're win the championship.

442
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: But Tubby called me. He say, I wanted to call

443
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: you and let you know that I'm gonna be leaving

444
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: Kentucky tomorrow. And I'm I'm I'm gonna go coach at Minnesota,

445
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: but I wanted to call you first and let you

446
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 1: know that and not find out on blogs. And so

447
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, that's great. You know what I'm saying.

448
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate you letting me know. Stand up guys up

449
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 1: is and you know, I'm gonna reopen my recruit man,

450
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 1: but I'll definitely look at Minnesota, definitely be at the

451
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: top of that list. And so I reopened my recruitment

452
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 1: and the first call I get that next morning, seven

453
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 1: in the morning, this coach is so to day. Hey,

454
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's up? He like, how in the funk

455
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: could you? Like? This is me? Is relationship forever? Like

456
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: how the fund could you commit to Kentucky? Is fucking bullshit?

457
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: It's that another And I'm like, yo, like you didn't

458
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: fucking offer me. So now I started back going out

459
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: him like you ain't sucking offer me. You full of

460
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: ship y'all act like I was fucking coming there and

461
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: I committed to you, and you ain't you fucking pulled

462
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: the scholarship, like funk that. And he's like when the

463
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: fun said that, well you didn't have a fucking offer.

464
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: And now I'm telling you know, you gotta fucking offer.

465
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 1: So we're having a screaming match. He's offering me a scholarship,

466
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: but it's a screaming match. And so you know, I

467
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: ended up reopening recruitment and eventually comes down to Michigan,

468
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 1: Michigan State in Indiana. And this is like the summer

469
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: after that March, and I was probably not many people

470
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: noticed I was gonna go to Michigan, and my mom

471
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: wanted me to go to Michigan because of, you know,

472
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: the education and all of that. I'm really trying to

473
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: get to the least, so I ain't really tripping about

474
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: the education, but I was gonna go to Michigan and

475
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: so good and being just got there like it was

476
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I'm gonna go to Michigan. So

477
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: they called me and they begged me to come down

478
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: to open Jim on this Now, this is Thursday. I'm

479
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: committing on the following Thursday. They begged me to commit.

480
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: I had been before. It's Michigan. It's an hour away,

481
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I've been there a

482
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: bunch of times, and they begged me to come one

483
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: last time on on that Monday before. So it's Thursday

484
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,719
Speaker 1: even and they're begging me to come. I go that Monday.

485
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm committing that following Thursday. But I don't tell them

486
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm committing there. They just know my press conference is Thursday.

487
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: And so I go down. I play in the open

488
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: gym with them. I'm busting their ass and like nobody

489
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: talking back like that at that time. Manny Fresh was

490
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: their PD was there. P d ain't a big talking

491
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: you know saying Pete from Detroit. Manny not a big talker.

492
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: They realig but they ain't big talkers. And then like

493
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: the rest like coming Grady was school, but like there

494
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: was a lot of squares on the team, And so

495
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: I'm busting their ass and talking ship and like nobody's

496
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: saying nothing back, but I'll go to Michigan State and

497
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm talking ship and like Travis Well, I trying to

498
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: fight me, and like everybody trying to fight, and I'm like, yeah,

499
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: that's me, you know what I'm saying, Like we're talking,

500
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: everybody talking ship, We're about to fight in this open Jim,

501
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: that's more me than fucking talking and everybody just looking

502
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: at me. And so Michigan State just from more at

503
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: home for me. But had Michigan left my ass at

504
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: home and not fucking caught me down there, I went

505
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: to Michigan crazy, and you know, Michigan stay end up

506
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: being the best decision of my life. Like my freshman year,

507
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: I was trying to transfer because I wasn't getting the

508
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: clock I wanted, and I fucking knew I should have

509
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: been playing. Every time I played, I played well, but

510
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: I had to row in front of me who was

511
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: the top five recruit at my position in the same

512
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: class with me, and then I had some seniors ahead

513
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: of me. But I earned my minutes, but I ain't.

514
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: We played at Ohio State once that uh that year

515
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: and I ain't played. I was the only game I

516
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: didn't play at all. But I ain't play at all.

517
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: I caught my mom crying on the bus, like you

518
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: gotta give me the funk out of here, and she

519
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,719
Speaker 1: told me, like you you made your bed, you got

520
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: laying and so I just kind of locked back in.

521
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: I end up playing great through the tournament and then

522
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: ship the rest of my career, I just got better

523
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: and better and the rest is history. But that ship

524
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: was it was. It was a roller coach rod for sure.

525
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: To to to think all that culminated with you getting

526
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: your jersey retired. Uh last December explained to us that

527
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: that the energy and and and and the honor you

528
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: felt during that so funny because they coaches wanted to

529
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: retire my jersey. And two thousand and sixteen and I

530
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, I'll remind you, but two thousand

531
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 1: and sixteen was a very rough year for me. I got, uh,

532
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: I got, I got suspended from Game five of the finals,

533
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: and then about three weeks later, I slapped the ship

534
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: out of the guy in Michigan State and I got arrested.

535
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: And then about two and a half weeks later, I

536
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: had a snapchat incident and so like all that ship happened,

537
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: bang bang bang, like six weeks and so it was

538
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: like the roughest six weeks of my life. But so

539
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: Coaches had called me Um, you know, after I got

540
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: arrested a few couple of months later, and obviously I

541
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: was talking to him all through that, but a couple

542
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: of months later he's like, Yo, I want to retire

543
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: your jersey here, and I'm like, Coach, fun that place.

544
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm never were coming back there, Like the guy fucking

545
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: charged me and Ship and I slap them and I

546
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: get arrested there and Hey charged me. I'm never fucking

547
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: coming back to East last. And so I kind of

548
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: said no in two thousand and sixteen, just being kind

549
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: of hot head and not fucking understanding the honor. And

550
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: then Coach told me Um like last September, like, Yo,

551
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: you need to fucking pick a date. I'm retiring New Jersey.

552
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: And we we end up finding a date that worked perfect.

553
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: We was on the East Coast and Man to go

554
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: there and like like I was like, oh, I'm not

555
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: gonna tear up, you know what I'm saying A tough

556
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: guy and Ship and like I'll be fine, I ain't

557
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: gonna get emotional. But like when I went out there

558
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: on that court, I have tried with my family there,

559
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: with my kids there, and like to see my fucking

560
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: jersey going in the rafters, like I think I'm the

561
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: tenth one, Like that's there forever, and you know, it

562
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: was a big deal for me to like have my

563
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: name in the weight room and my picture of ship,

564
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: but like to get my jersey up there, like I

565
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: paid for the weight room, but to get me like

566
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: I worked for that jersey to get a hand at

567
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: a lot of motherfucker's have never seen that man, but

568
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: I worked my eyes off to get my jersey up there,

569
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: Like my fucker's told me I was stupid from going

570
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: to mission, stated that I would never play there, and

571
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: like to see my jersey up there, like my kids

572
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: walk in that gym. Anybody walk in that gym out there,

573
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, and like people like still send me videos

574
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: like when they go to the breast and watch the game,

575
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: or like the jersey up there, that ship is surreal,

576
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: Like I'm from Sagging Mission, Like that ship don't happen

577
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: for us, right, Yeah, that's dope. Congratulations reflect real quickly,

578
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: your last reflect on this last decade from you. You

579
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: touched on the college experience you ended up being in

580
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: College All Americans, second round draft pick to the Warriors.

581
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: You guys helped build something special. You win three titles,

582
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, All Star, bad boy the league.

583
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: This last ten years has been a hell of a

584
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: run for you. How do you just sit back and

585
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: kind of reflect on it now that you have time

586
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: to reflect on it? Man, Uh, it's been I couldn't

587
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, dream this in my wildest dreams, man, Like,

588
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: you know, growing up and seging making it to the NBA.

589
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: It was just like a far fetched dream. I don't

590
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: even know if I could call it a dream. It

591
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: was just whatever the funk it was. But it was

592
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: like I had this idea of getting there with no

593
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: clue on how whatever happened or if it would ever happened.

594
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: It's it's just like a little kid growing up and

595
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: then not only to get to the NBA as a

596
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: second round pick, but to actually have the success that

597
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: I've had with the championships and All Star and Defensive

598
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: Player of the Year and stuff. Honestly, um and in

599
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: my opinion, in my opinion, changing the game of basketball.

600
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that not you know what

601
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying now, I think I think I changed the

602
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: game of basketball with the help of Steff curt you

603
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But I think Steph Curry changed

604
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: the game of basketball with the help of me. Like

605
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: I think it was a match man of heaven. And

606
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you know, fucking Clay Thompson

607
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: come into his own and become top two shooters in

608
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: the world, and US three fucking changed the game of

609
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: basketball forever. Like I think, I could have never imagined

610
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: this in my wildest dreams. But it's it's been such

611
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: a great run. And honestly, being in that run, you

612
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: don't really appreciate it, you know what I'm saying. But

613
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: this year I was able to step outside of that run,

614
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, and all this year

615
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: I would just have times where I would just sit

616
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: back and think, or just chilling my room on the

617
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: road or at the crib, and just think, like, yo,

618
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: we like I actually just finished the run with the

619
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: greatest team ever to step on the basketball court, and

620
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: I was, you know, a big part of that, Like

621
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: that I get. I mean, you can see I'm stumbling

622
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: over my words because it touches, you know what I'm

623
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: saying like different, just to sit back and think about that,

624
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: Like the NBA. We I just spoke on it in

625
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: the beginning, Like the NBA is fucking huge, Like it's

626
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: a huge part of the world we live in. And

627
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: to be uh to how the success that I've had

628
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: in the NBA and to be a part of something

629
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: so special, man, it's it means the world to me, hey,

630
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: and and and to even go a little farther to

631
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: even going a little father and me, you and Matt

632
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: we was all second round picks. You know, we were

633
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: all we we all the odds was against us coming

634
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: in a lot of people didn't really believe we were

635
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: just thrown in the draft at the end. But but

636
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: for for you to to be where you are now,

637
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: to have all the accolades, the awards and championships and

638
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: all that, do you have a think back to like

639
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: how to how being the second round pick motivated you

640
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: to to defile the odds and to show to prove

641
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: everybody wrong, Because I know that's what it did for me.

642
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy, bro, I didn't I forgot you

643
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: were a second round pick, like you was so good

644
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: in the league, like you were you and the league

645
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: for so long, like I forgot. I remember watching you

646
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: in Indiana, like fucking that's crazy. But uh, being a

647
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: second round pick for me like I should I felt

648
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: like I should have been the first round pick. I

649
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: won National Player of the Year like Anthony Davis's all

650
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: those guys in college the year that I want National

651
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: Player of the year, and I went second round like

652
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: national players that the year, gonna go second round. You

653
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I was second round and there's

654
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: all these questions of who he ironically they asked who

655
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: was I gonna guard? Which ain't do ship but motivated

656
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like what position was I

657
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: gonna play? Which motivated me to do what I've done

658
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: and try to make positions meaningless. But it was always

659
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: feel to my fire. But I you know, I said

660
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: it before I got I still to this day can

661
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: name all guys drafted before me because that should have

662
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: never stopped driving me. But I said it. Being the

663
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: first round pick just didn't fit my story, you know

664
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like from college from high you know,

665
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: going all the way back to high school, like I

666
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 1: played freshman basketball my freshman year and then sophomore year,

667
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: I started every game, you know what I'm saying. But

668
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: there was a couple of freshmans on varsity before me,

669
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: and I thought I was better. But I played fucking

670
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: I didn't even play j v BRO. I played freshman.

671
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: I think the Lord's Voice I scored was twenty three

672
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: that year, and I probably played like out of a

673
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: fucking thirty too many games. I probably played nineteen minutes.

674
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: I got busted everybody else. I was piste off. But like,

675
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: and then you go to college, like my freshman year,

676
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: I barely played, and then I and then I get

677
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: to the league. My rookie year, I barely played. My

678
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: second year a little more. But in the in between,

679
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: that's being a second round pick. Being the first round

680
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: pick just didn't fit my story, you know what I'm saying.

681
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: Like I mean no disrespect to the first round picks

682
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: or guys who's been a first round pick, but like

683
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: first round picks are given a lot of ship, like

684
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: that make a lot of sense, though, you make a

685
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: lot of sense that that ship don't fit your story.

686
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: I never heard it like that, but that makes a

687
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: lot of sense. First round and fit my story, Like

688
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: you just didn't think who I was, like, are giving ship?

689
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: I didn't been giving ship in my life and give

690
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: an opportunity at the opportunity like that organization wants them

691
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: to be great, so that GM could say I got

692
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: it right. I told you I didn't fit me Like, no,

693
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: I had to go take that gime and respect. You're

694
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: talking about that now, you talking about the politics that

695
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: people don't really understand. Man. That ship is created to

696
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: really able to be able to be a second round pick.

697
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: We all had our stories, but to be able to

698
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: crack through finally, and that means we're taking people's jobs.

699
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: That means, you know, in my situation early and going

700
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: to the state, they were trading Don Leaving and Murphy

701
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: those are two then Leave he was a lottery pick.

702
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, Troy Murphy was up there high,

703
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: you know. So to first second round pick, to crack

704
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: into that fucking rotation and line up with all the

705
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: politics that s it ain't easy, man, if people don't

706
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: think about that side, No, it's different. I mean and

707
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: for me, like I was the thirty fifth bit. You

708
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: had Harrison Barnes who was the seventh pick, infestor Cezeli

709
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: who was thetie. They were first round picks. The Warriors

710
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: passed on me twice. I just had and to be

711
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: still sitting there, but like you know, both of those guys,

712
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: and you know, we we did some special together our

713
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: draft class. We kind of view it as like was

714
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: the turning point of this organization. Like we you know,

715
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: we came in two thous twelve, that was our first

716
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: year making the playoffs here and um, and so you

717
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: know we've done some special things together. But of that

718
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: drive class, I am the last one here, but I

719
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: was the last one picked. And so you know, just

720
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: having that fuel to constantly fucking drive me knowing that

721
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: not only did they pass me twice, you know what

722
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but all the other teams just fucking went

723
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: past me something to something. I think one team might

724
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: have passed me three or three or four times in

725
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: the drift like and so that's always been fuel. But

726
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: fun theme now right uh, right up. And we recently

727
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: had Mark Jackson on the show. Actually his episode dropped today,

728
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: so everyone go check that. That's gonna be a little later,

729
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: but check that out. Jack Jackson definitely Jackson talk to

730
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: us about him kind of building the foundation for you

731
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: as a pro, him as a head coach, and what

732
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: he kind of along with talent, Like he said, he

733
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: gives you guys all the credit, but talk to me

734
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: about his um what what I want to say? His

735
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: role in that process? Um he You know, Marky Jackson

736
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: played a very key role in the success we've had here.

737
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: And Mark Jackson you know, the Steph Curry and Clay Thompson.

738
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: You you see, they weren't that, you know what I'm saying.

739
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: And obviously their skill got better, but their mentality wasn't

740
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: as such, you know what I'm saying. I remember times

741
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: of Mark Jackson telling them like, yo, you're great. Like

742
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: you you fucking like him because you know what I'm saying,

743
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: but like you great believe that you know, and like

744
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: kind of giving them the confidence to and and not

745
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: only the confidence, but the ultimate green light to fucking

746
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: go be great, you know what I'm saying. Like he

747
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: changed their mindsets from who they were played coming into

748
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: the league, and staff was already here when Mark got here.

749
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 1: He changed their mindset and basketball and just as people,

750
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: and I was huge for who they've grown to become today,

751
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that, So you know, and

752
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: then obviously me coming in, Like I still remember when

753
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: I got drafted. Mark Jackson called me and he was like, Yo,

754
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: I want you to come in and be that same

755
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: Draymond Green that I've seen at Michigan State leading guys

756
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: for years. I want you to come in and be

757
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: that same guy. Don't come here and try to take

758
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: no back seat. Don't come here and not say what

759
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: you gotta say. Come in and be that same guy,

760
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So Mark Jackson and still

761
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: confidence in us, you know. And and and then obviously,

762
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: you know a couple of years, my first two years

763
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: he was here, we went to the playoffs and he

764
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: got fired, you know what I'm saying. And it was

765
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: it was kind of fucked up, you know what I'm saying,

766
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,959
Speaker 1: because it was just like damn, like this guy's helping

767
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: us reaching new heights and then he got out of there.

768
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: I've never said this, but to be quite honest, Mark

769
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: Jackson was great for us, and and and where we were,

770
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, we were all young, thirsty, hungry, trying to

771
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: trying to get it. I think Mark Jackson was great

772
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: for us. Do we get to the next level with

773
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: Mark Jackson? I'm not sure. I don't. I don't. I mean,

774
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: you can't just say no because we don't know the answer.

775
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: But I can't just say yes either, And you know,

776
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: for several different reasons. However, do we reach the level

777
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: that we reached with Steve Kerve without Mark Jackson? I

778
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: can't say that either, you know what I'm saying, because

779
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: it's still something in us that when Steve Kurt took over,

780
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: it was kind of up, it was already trending up,

781
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: and then we just kind of shot out of cannon

782
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: with Steve. You know, Steve brought a different philosophy on

783
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: the offensive end, which I think really helped us get

784
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: over that hump, you know what I'm saying. So that's

785
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: why I think the key differences lies. Mark Jackson's offense

786
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: was kind of take advantage of a miss match or

787
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: high ball screen, you know what I'm saying that at

788
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: times like I still remember when we play San Antonio,

789
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: Steph probably scored twenty straight and Pop didn't switch a coverage.

790
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: She just like hit like it'll run his course. And

791
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: that's kind of Steve curse theory too, and so I

792
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: think he learned that he learned that from Poper. Yeah,

793
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: and it makes sense. You know, what I'm saying is

794
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: short enough, all of us were sucking standing around watching

795
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: step go to works scored twenty five straight and then

796
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he got tired and we're all

797
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: out of rhythm. They came storming back and they beat us,

798
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm not sure with

799
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: the offensive philosophy that we ever get over. You know

800
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I wouldn't necessarily, I wouldn't say it's

801
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: his coaching skills. His offensive philosophy was just different. And

802
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: Steve kirkbot in the offensive philosophy that really fitted us great,

803
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: and it really opened up a lot for you know,

804
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: Stephan Clay was already starm but it opened up the

805
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: floor for them as well. And so, uh, you know,

806
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: I think we kind of got I mean, we never

807
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: know what wouldn't happened with market. We don't know if

808
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: Steve was here. We will never know that. But it

809
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: fucking worked out perfectly. And I think, you know, both

810
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: of those guys deserved credit for a lot of fun,

811
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: credit for what we've been over to. With Mark Jackson, no,

812
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: I think like with Mark, he has an unbelievable basketball mind.

813
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: Doug actually playing the game and just being a port

814
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: guard and playing with so many good players and knowing

815
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: that control the game. But I think when Steve came in,

816
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: Steve brought that championship man tality. Steve got a lot

817
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: of and a lot of different places. Man, I don't

818
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: care what people say. Steve got a lot of experience

819
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: and a lot of rings. I want one with him,

820
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: so and I know it's basketball mind. People got to think.

821
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: And this is what I always give Steve his problem,

822
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: and this is why I know he's he's he's he's

823
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: he's a great coach, and how he thinks. Steve was

824
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: in a situation where he didn't play whole series. But

825
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: he'll come in Game six, championship game and knocked down

826
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: four threes and did he play the whole game, So

827
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: so his mindset. They both are great minds, but steve

828
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: mindset was a little different, and that's why the team

829
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: was able to grow. And it's not a knock against Mark,

830
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: it's just how things happened. Absolutely absolutely, I think, you know,

831
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: I agree with that. And obviously, you know, when Steve

832
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: got here was obviously when my career really took off,

833
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So I'm appreciative of what

834
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: he bought. You know what I'm saying. Me and Steve

835
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: used to bump has a whole lot of first and

836
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: it took us a while to realize we're so similar

837
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. Like we both got fucking

838
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: fiery passion. We're both gonna do whatever we gotta do

839
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 1: for the team, but can lose it in the fucking instant,

840
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: right and so um, you know, I really appreciate Steve

841
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: and his basketball mind and and also his field. You

842
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like Steve got great phil he

843
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: knows what to say when to say. You know what

844
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He know all right, I'm gonna take a

845
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: step back and like, let y'all do what y'all gotta do.

846
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: I get it, it's been sucking six months in the season.

847
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: Let me take a step back and let y'all coach

848
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: the game against Phinish. I ain't said a word, you

849
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: know just that nextually is because I've been in a situation.

850
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: How many times you come out of the game going crazy,

851
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: and he's said, Mike Brown down there all the time, Mike,

852
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: Mike Brown tells me, y'all telling like Dre, I don't

853
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: get funk. You're gonna say you you can say whatever

854
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 1: you gotta say to me. I'm cool. But he said,

855
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: come calm me down. And it's smart though, because if

856
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: he come down there, you know, so like he just

857
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: he got great field. Man. I remember what a couple

858
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: of years ago, I was literally at a point where

859
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, like the infamous argument with me and him

860
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: and old k see you know it blew up, which

861
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: it was crazy, but like it was after that, Like

862
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: I was at a point and until his credit he

863
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: learned me. You know what I'm saying, He didn't, you know,

864
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: he didn't just throw in the time he figured me out.

865
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: I mean, fucking a million conversations with Tim, it is

866
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: always something going wrong, like just trying to learn me. Yo.

867
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: I was at a point where I'm like, Yo, I'm like,

868
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 1: if he say one more thing to me, I'm about

869
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: fucking losing on him. He wrote me, he wrote me

870
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: afore he didn't say nothing. I was I'm dying for

871
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: him to say something so I could ain't saying a word.

872
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: He wrote me a four page letter. Bro. He all

873
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: lead you, huh, to this day, I can't tell you

874
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: what the letter said. I read the first fucking line,

875
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: and they said, Draymond, you know I wanted to write

876
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: you this letter. I know, you know things are rough

877
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: right now, and you know we're we're kind of bumping

878
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: hands right now, and we're out of stand still and

879
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: you're you're frustrating and starting to pull over. You know.

880
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: I closed the letter up and threw it away. I said, Yo,

881
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: he know me. He got me pair it out, and

882
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: he took his time to figure me out. I don't

883
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: even I don't need to see anything else like And

884
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: we were in Philly never and so that next game

885
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: we played that next day and I had literally talked

886
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: to coaches on the phone. I'm like, coach, I'm about

887
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: to fucking lose it. I'm fucking sick of Steve like this.

888
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: That another and he's talking to me. And then after

889
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: I talked to coaches. So I had the letter for

890
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: a few days. I didn't open it after I talked

891
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 1: to coaches. Open the latter. I read the first line.

892
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: I just threw it away. I can't tell you what

893
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 1: the rest of it said, but it was just cool

894
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: because I'm like, damn, He figured me out and he

895
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: knew I was ready to lose it. He didn't say

896
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: a fucking word. He played. He fucking chess move bro.

897
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: He fucking he learned that ship from Pop two. Trust me,

898
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: he learned that from Pop two. Man, I'm telling you

899
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: Pop through the same ship. It was fucking great, bro Like,

900
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: and that next game, I almost had a triple double

901
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: at halftime. I was like one like one to six short.

902
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: He told me at halftime, like, yo, you we was

903
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: beating the asked and fill it. He's like, yo, You're

904
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 1: probably not gonna play the rest game, and you close

905
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: to the triple double, so you try to get it fast. Bro.

906
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: I spent the rest of the half trying to get

907
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: that last assists and it never fucking came. Almost tricked

908
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: the game for us, like literally to Harrison Bars and

909
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: at the quarner three was down to Harrison Bars at

910
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: the quarter three to win the game for us at

911
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 1: the end because I'm trying to chang the triple douga.

912
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: He came to me after the game. He said, yo,

913
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't have said noting to you because the

914
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: way he was playing completely changed. But he said, what

915
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: I will tell you is the first the first three

916
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: players on the court. I looked at my coaches and

917
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: I said, Raymond back, like I can see the difference

918
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: in your play the first three players of the game.

919
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: And so like a lot of credit to Steve Man.

920
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: He really figured me out and been getting the most

921
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: out of me as a player. But that relationship, when

922
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: I try to tell people, because I always on the

923
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: outside looking in and Jack and I are the same,

924
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: you are just like us having an understanding. And then

925
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: when I got there to see that, I was right, like,

926
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: you make that whole organization go. You you make that

927
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: I mean obviously Stephan, Clay and k D and whoever

928
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: you're you're the people who have helped you obtain the

929
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: success you have. But that team doesn't win one championship

930
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: without you. Don't even know if if Clay, Steph and

931
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: and and this is going out and and and and

932
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: k D alone could win a championship because there's so

933
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: many things you do, first of all, that don't show

934
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: up on the shaft. She You'll go out there and

935
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: get a trouble double, You'll kill You'll get a triple

936
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: double without even getting ten points. There's so many lock

937
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: up the best lock up a whole defense, you know.

938
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: I mean, this motherfucker will hold a whole at six

939
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: at six five, hold the whole entire defense down, but

940
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: even the stuff off the court. How you mentally challenge

941
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: the coaches, how you mentally challenge the training staff, how

942
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: you mentally challenge management like you, It's like a beautiful mind.

943
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because I saw and then when I

944
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: was fortunate enough to come funk with you guys, and

945
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: you guys got me a championship, and I don't have

946
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: to do ship appreciate y'all. I got to see what

947
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: I kind of always thought, like Draymond hand is in

948
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: all aspects of this organization and on the outside people

949
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: to understand that because they look at you or he

950
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: can only play with them, he could only do this,

951
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: He can only do that. Though your teammates Steph and

952
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: Clay k d those guys, other guys you played with,

953
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: Andre Sean and in that organization, the way they've handsomely

954
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: rewarded you with two nice contracts, understand how important you

955
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: are not only to the success on the court, but

956
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: just the overall view of how the Golden State Wars

957
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: are viewed and I just wanted to let you know

958
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: that because, like I said, I thought it a long

959
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: time ago and I got to see it firsthand and

960
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: it was a beautiful thing. Man. And you're just like

961
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: I said, you like me and Jack. Your heart is

962
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: on your sleep, So you're gonna say there's no sugarcoat

963
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: nothing and sometimes like fun, maybe we shouldn't have said that,

964
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: but we truly felt it at that time and it

965
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 1: needed to be said. But to be able to see

966
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: it person I just want to say, I love that ship, man,

967
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: And and it's really a hass off to you because

968
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: not a lot of people get to understand and see that. Man.

969
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, bro. And you definitely did something when

970
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: you came here. I mean even your mindset coming in here,

971
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: like you know, like it brought a different mindset to

972
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: this team because you know there's like Stephan Clay, there's

973
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: no surprise they don't say much, you know stuff talk

974
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: a little more now, Clay talk a little more now,

975
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: but that's come a time. But they you know, to

976
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: their court, they don't say much. You know what I'm saying.

977
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: It's so just really adding another guy who just like

978
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: obviously you came in and you played good for us

979
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: in big games for sure, but just and and I

980
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: think one of the things that really hurt you even

981
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: in here, Like obviously you got the ring and all

982
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: of that, and you played in some big games in

983
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: the playoffs too, but when you went down at the

984
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: end of the season, they kind of set you back something,

985
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you know that's how

986
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: I find it, Danny, you came in here, you helped

987
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: us get a championship. But you know, I think a

988
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, I hear that all the time, like, oh,

989
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: you ain't ship without Stephani Clair kd like three all stars.

990
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: Like I can dig that, Like that's cool, you know

991
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, yeah, the them guys do make

992
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: me a lot better, you know what I'm saying. But

993
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: Tom Brady ain't winning championships with no receivers, you know

994
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, you gotta have good players around roun.

995
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: And that's not like Michael Jordan's one of the greatest,

996
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: if not probably I mean arguing Lebron all of that,

997
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: Like the greatest players we've ever seen, has Scottie Pippen,

998
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: Scotty I've been watching old game. Then it's robbing fucking

999
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: Steve kirr Bach, like Michael Jordan, half a lot of Harper,

1000
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: Like everybody got somebody, and so do do playing stuff

1001
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: made me better? Of course? You know what I'm saying,

1002
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 1: Like I'm not afraid to say that I think you

1003
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 1: know the world kind of. I think so many people

1004
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: get piste off that I am who I am and

1005
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: I've had the success that I have, but I don't

1006
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: do what they can see, which is so many people

1007
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: they know basketball and don't know ship. You know what

1008
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like sometimes I wish I played football because

1009
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: people enjoy football, but they know they don't know ship.

1010
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: You know what. There's too much going on out there

1011
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: for them to think they know something. But in basketball,

1012
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: everybody think they fucking know the game. And like, I know,

1013
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: I'll run when when you're like talking basketball and like

1014
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: X and I was like, I'll fucking run circles around

1015
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: most people in this world. But yeah, everybody got in

1016
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 1: the pin and think they know the fucking game, Like yeah,

1017
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, do make me better, Like yeah, Clay Thompson,

1018
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: do make me better, and like I make them better

1019
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: because by the way you know people talk a this

1020
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: ship about shooting and all of this, and my I'll

1021
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: put this up against anybody. If not number one, I'm

1022
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: definitely top two or three. I think I'm the best

1023
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: screen center ever play in the NBA. Like that's just real,

1024
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 1: Like I'm a great def But I don't think anybody

1025
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: that ever fucking touched the NBA that can set better

1026
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: screens than me, you know what I'm saying. So, but

1027
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: it's a lot of dumb funks that don't even realize that.

1028
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: You know what's important. That is though, Specie with the

1029
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: two guys you the three guys you mentioned, and you're

1030
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: hey there with k D two, you're having some of

1031
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: the most prolific scores we've ever seen because of the screen,

1032
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: Like the screen is so hard to navigate. And then

1033
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 1: your motherfucking smart, You'll lean your role, You'll slip out early,

1034
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: You'll playing mind games. They'll give you the ball, you'll

1035
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: give it right back to them, but you'll pass it

1036
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: to someone like your mind of seeing it, like you

1037
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: see plays before they develop. Like like I said to me,

1038
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: you've always been that quarterback out there. You handle the

1039
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: ball more than anyone on that team. They can say

1040
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: whatever the funk you want, but you are the primary

1041
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: decision maker no matter what the situation is, Like you

1042
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: get Steff history. I mean, obviously Steph can take his

1043
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: ices and CLAYO get hot and Kdi did to say,

1044
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: but from a day to day standpoint, you are the

1045
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: quarterback that gets everyone else going absolutely and that's you know,

1046
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell you pride and that, you know what I'm saying.

1047
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: So to everybody out there who want to talk about

1048
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: this year, um, I really don't give a funk because

1049
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: in my opinion, I got I got better, you know

1050
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I got I got better as a player,

1051
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: I got better as a person, as a leader, and

1052
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: I became a better screener for sure, because even learning

1053
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: learning the screen for D'Angelo Russell, it's completely different than

1054
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: learning the screen for Steph Curry and Clay Thompson, you

1055
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So just learning the screen for

1056
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: Jordan Pool, you know, like I got better, you know,

1057
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: and and like that's donna make me even better for

1058
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: next year. So you know, like I appreciate everybody talking.

1059
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: I kind of needed, you know, them to relike that

1060
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 1: fire under my eyes. But I'm definitely the best screen

1061
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: that I ever played in the NBA. And they're gonna

1062
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: hate to hear that. They want me shoot, you can't

1063
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: do that on the best fucking screen that I ever

1064
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: played as as much as much as much as you've

1065
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: been done now already, though, Like I know, you gotta

1066
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: continue to challenge yourself. Defensive Player of the Year, you

1067
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: got NBA titles, you gotta gold medal, and I know

1068
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: you went through a lot of challenges, you know, going

1069
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: through before the season was into. We're trying to mold

1070
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: the young guys, Like what's your next challenge? Like, you know,

1071
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: I know you're coming back next year and try to

1072
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: get the team back. The championship is one, you know

1073
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But what what's what's your personal challenge?

1074
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: You challenge yourself because you damn have done everything already.

1075
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: My my personal challenge for myself is, like I think

1076
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: one of year, I shot like thirty eight thirty nine

1077
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: percent from three, you know what I'm saying, Like, and

1078
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: so my personal challenge to myself is to get that back.

1079
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: And I've kind of had the like re restructure my

1080
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: jump shot, you know what I'm saying, or not and

1081
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: and kind of restructure my whole body. A few years ago, um,

1082
00:52:55,560 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: after after we after couch in the finals, my hip

1083
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: was bothering me, and so the next day I like

1084
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't really walk, Like if we didn't sleep,

1085
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have been able to

1086
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: play in game five. And then you know, the day

1087
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: after that, I couldn't move at all. Like I got

1088
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: to the point where I was sitting on the couch

1089
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: with like my leg like opened up, and I end

1090
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 1: up you know, check getting my hips checked out and stuff,

1091
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: and there were some issues, you know what I'm saying.

1092
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: So I had to recorrect that. I had to re

1093
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: strength that strengthen my core, which is something I never

1094
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: even really knew, you know what I'm saying, And like,

1095
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: so I had to do all this restrength and in

1096
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: turn and doing all of that, it kind of changed

1097
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: my shot because it changed the way I left up

1098
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: and all of this ship. So I've been working on

1099
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: restructuring that and getting my three pointer back to like

1100
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: if I can get that back, you know, to above

1101
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: thirty six, possibly shoot forty, but sing, which I know

1102
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm more than capable of, uh, you know, the world.

1103
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: The league is in trouble again if I can do that,

1104
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: So that's my goal and too and to be an

1105
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: All Star again. You know what I'm saying, Like, uh,

1106
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: it's it's honestly been dope as hell. These last two

1107
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: all started to go on a vacation with with my

1108
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: kids and my my fiance. But I I got that

1109
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: itch again, you know what I'm saying, Like I needed

1110
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: I got the three straight and I'm like, yeah, all right,

1111
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: like I knew I could do it, you know what

1112
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I kind of lost that. It's like all

1113
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: start didn't really become a thing for me no more.

1114
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: I got that itch again, like like I want to

1115
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: get back there, you know what I'm saying. So those

1116
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: are a couple of challenges for myself and then and

1117
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: then getting this team back to great. And you know

1118
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: a lot of people saying we can't we can't win

1119
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: without KD, Like like we didn't win without k D already.

1120
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's so really like is

1121
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: it going to be as an easy fun though? Like

1122
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: Kevin's great? You know what I'm saying, Like it's not

1123
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: gonna be as easy, But I know for sure. With

1124
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,959
Speaker 1: with them too, guys I rolled been rolling with since

1125
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: I came into this motherfucking that we started ship with.

1126
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 1: It can get done, and we're gonna get it done.

1127
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: That's my goal. Those are my goals for myself moving forward.

1128
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: That's dope in in a in a historical context, obviously,

1129
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 1: you guys have been argued with one of the greatest,

1130
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: the greatest team, if not the Bulls team, the back

1131
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: and forth. How do you look at the historical context

1132
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: of what you guys accomplished and how hard in your

1133
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: mind is to compare your guys team to the great

1134
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: Bulls teams and the great Laker teams and and and

1135
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: along down the line. I think, Um, I'm biased obviously,

1136
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: but I think we're the greatest team ever. Um, and

1137
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: you know when you start, when when you start. But

1138
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm not one to really compare a team, you know

1139
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like Michael Jordan's didn't play in the lead,

1140
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: we played there today, Like it's a completely differently, you

1141
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So to even say like, oh

1142
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: we would have beat them, they would have beat up

1143
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: It's like they was physical as fuck, Like could we

1144
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: play with that level of physicality. I don't know, like

1145
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: probably now or probably could, but could't they keep up

1146
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: with our speed and the ship we were probably not,

1147
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. When you started talking Shock

1148
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: and Kobe, Like god, you know RP Code Shot my

1149
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: favorite player growing up as a kid, you know what

1150
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, like I had our Lando Magic nightlights

1151
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: and fucking onesie pajamas and but like and watching I've

1152
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: always watched the game as a student of the game,

1153
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: like me and Steph Curry would have fucking destroyed Shocking

1154
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: a pick and roll like destroy Shack would have fucking

1155
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: murdered me on the block, you know what I'm saying,

1156
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: Like these are two completely different games we're talking about,

1157
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that, So we started to

1158
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: compare teams and like, are we better than them? And

1159
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: our Arab basketball we would have destroyed them, you know

1160
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But it's Shock and Kobe here where

1161
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 1: they're fucking dumping the ball down the Shock, we probably

1162
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: would have got crushed, you know what I'm saying, Like

1163
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: just the reality and you want to take us back

1164
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: to the nineties with the Bulls and their physicality and

1165
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: the League today, you can't touch nobody. So to think

1166
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: that we could play at that level of physicality, like

1167
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 1: it's bullshit, you know what I'm saying, Like we don't

1168
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 1: know that because we don't play near that level of physicality.

1169
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: But they were winning game seventy nine and seventy like

1170
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: we scored seventy nine points in the first five, and

1171
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: so it was two completely different errors. And I respect

1172
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: everybody for their greatness in their era, like dominating the

1173
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: on in your era, and the Lakers did that. Fucking

1174
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: the Bulls did that, like and the Celtics back then,

1175
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: they did that. Like I respect teams for dominating their area.

1176
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: And we've dominated our era, all right. Uh favorite defensive,

1177
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: favorite chatters defensively, I know you are you one of

1178
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: the best defenders in the game. Who did you study?

1179
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: You know? Tell me who is your favorite guy to

1180
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: defend and who did you study? You know as being

1181
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: the best one of the best defenders to play the game? Uh?

1182
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: For for me? Um, you know, I used to I

1183
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: used to study a lot of different guys, like I

1184
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: will study Charles Oakley and Dennis rob Man like their side,

1185
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: you know, And and then I would also study Kurt Thomas.

1186
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: You know how he guarded Kurt Thomas. Yeah, like one

1187
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: of the best ever. You know what I'm saying is

1188
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: so like studying Kurt Thomas and then being around like

1189
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: a big brother to me, Ben Wallace, you know what

1190
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like I came up, you know, in Michigan

1191
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: watching the Pistons, and then I was able to get

1192
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: a get a get to get a chance to know

1193
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: Ben Wallace and like really study him and underside like

1194
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: Ben Wallace sucking six seven six eight was garden shot.

1195
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that so uh, you know,

1196
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: just studying him from you know, from a from a

1197
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: big perspective. Uh, you know, I really I really watched

1198
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: a lot of those guys, and then from on the perimeter,

1199
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: I would watch like how clips are Gary Payton, you

1200
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like watch different angles, Like Gary

1201
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: Payton wasn't the fastest, but he would fucking lock somebody up,

1202
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, watching with angles and like

1203
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: use this hands and different stuff like that. Like I

1204
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: would watch guys like that, and for me, uh, you know,

1205
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: over the course of my career, my favorite couple of

1206
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: guys to guard has been Blade Griffin and and Kevin Love.

1207
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that they they're both great players.

1208
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: But I used to, like, you know, when I was

1209
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: coming in, like those were kind of the next two

1210
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: power forwards up, those two LaMarcus Audrey when I was

1211
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: first coming in the league, and so when I was

1212
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: coming in, like I would love to take on the

1213
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: challenge and like, oh, these are'all guys like I can

1214
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: lock them up, you know what I'm saying that. So

1215
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: those are two guys who you know, I appreciate playing

1216
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: against them because they're great talents, but I also appreciated

1217
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: and will take on that challenge head on because you know,

1218
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: you hear like all the talk about how young, you know,

1219
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: great these young guys are, and for me, should I'm

1220
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: I need it. I'm trying to feed my family, you know,

1221
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: and so if these are two guys I need to

1222
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: lock up for y'all to believe it, then that's what

1223
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: I was gonna go do. And so, you know, I

1224
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: appreciate those two guys greatness you know, in their in

1225
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: their game. But you know, those have been two of

1226
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: my favorite guys that match up against and you know,

1227
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: once that fire is lit, like, those are two guys

1228
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: you are playing against this lip. I can never go

1229
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: away like you know they Whenever I stepped on the

1230
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: court with either those guys, I'm trying to destroy them

1231
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: and they're trying to destroy me, because that battle has

1232
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: been there since I came into the league, you know

1233
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But if I had to pinpoint two guys,

1234
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: it's definitely those two guys because I knew those was

1235
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: two guys in my position that I had to go

1236
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: through if I wanted to reach the level that I've

1237
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: been able to reach but also continue to go. Hey,

1238
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: I had I had a short stand with the Clippers,

1239
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: a real shorts stand with the Clippers. But I've seen

1240
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: Kevin Love give Blake Griffith thirty and twenty five with

1241
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: my own eyes, I could I could not believe it.

1242
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: All jumpers, no dunks, no nothing, lay ups, hooks, threes.

1243
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, by Kevin Love is for real. I've seen

1244
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: my own eyes, like a lot of system to it

1245
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: and none of that skill, you know what I'm saying. Absolutely,

1246
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: And then Blake on the other hand, strongest hell too.

1247
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: And I got to respect Blake also and seeing like

1248
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: where his game has come to like, you know, from

1249
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: who Blake wants to who he is today. He worked

1250
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: on this game the hardest workers I've ever seen. Yeah,

1251
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: handle shooting it now. So I got respectful both of

1252
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: those guys. But I love those matchups. But we used

1253
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: to have those battles. I mean, people don't understand, like,

1254
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 1: not that you guys were a little brother, but all

1255
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: the talent we had in Live City, we should have

1256
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: won championships. And we're gonna break that down at some

1257
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: point with the with all the dysfunction we had. But

1258
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: just right across the way when we used to battle

1259
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: you guys, we were the last team. You know, we

1260
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: pushed you guys. You guys pushed us to the seven

1261
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: game series. We beat you guys, and then the next

1262
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: year Coach Kirk came and you guys won the championship.

1263
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: So we would see you guys like damn, Like, Okay,

1264
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: we're a different type of team. We kind of feel

1265
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 1: like we're better than but these motherfucker's right here with

1266
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: the way how hard Draymond plays. And I remember some

1267
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: ship between happened between Steph and um CP because CP

1268
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: was the best point guard the league at the time.

1269
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: You said something like I'm sucking taking steph ten out

1270
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: of ten times. I don't know your exact words, but

1271
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: we saw you guys coming and how much you guys

1272
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: fucked with each other, how excited you guys were when

1273
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: other people scored, and just the chemistry and or you

1274
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: guys had around your team. I'm like, these young motherfucker's

1275
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: are up next. We felt like we had it what

1276
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: it took at that time to win a championship. But

1277
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: we used to battle with you guys constantly because you

1278
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: guys were younger coming up. We were older already in

1279
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: a position to win. You guys were still learning. But

1280
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: where we used to look over there, like these young

1281
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: motherfucking warriors, they're gonna be a problem, man. You know.

1282
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: I remember those battles with y'all, and for us, like

1283
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: you know, it was like y'all kind of had everything

1284
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: to lose and we had nothing to lose, you know

1285
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like they were kind of dubbing y'all

1286
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: that next team out the West to be great and

1287
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: go on and do great things. And so for us,

1288
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: we like ship well every time we played, uh, we

1289
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: compete at a high level. So if this is the

1290
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: next team that they're dubbing, you know, the team that

1291
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: they're dubbing to be next up, Like why can't we

1292
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, And it was kind of you know, it

1293
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: was kind of the early stage, and like once again

1294
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Blake, where you know, Blake's a huge

1295
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: deal and you know Steph is coming up. But you know,

1296
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: Steph came up in North Carolina. CEP came up in

1297
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: North Carolina, so they kind of had that relationship, you know,

1298
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: that pre existent relationship where Steph would work out with

1299
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: CP when he was in college and you know CP

1300
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: in the league and all of this stuff. I hated

1301
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: it because to me, CP was kind of using that

1302
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 1: ship to his advantage. You know what I'm saying, where

1303
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,919
Speaker 1: you know, CP a smart guy like I. I don't

1304
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: like CP at all, Like we don't have a good

1305
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: relationship at all, but I respect his hustle and I

1306
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: respect his i Q. He's smart as hell. And and

1307
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: CEP was kind of using like CEP saw stuff coming up.

1308
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: And you know, once you started to get older in

1309
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: this league, you start to realize like, Okay, this guy

1310
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: is coming Eventually, he may catch me because I'm gonna

1311
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: start to decline at some point, and so I would

1312
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: kind of see CP kind of keeping stuff at Bay,

1313
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: but yeah, fucking giving him a stiff farm at the

1314
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: same time. Now, stuff, you know stuff, ain't you know?

1315
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: Stuff is stuff? Like we all love stuff, right, He

1316
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: ain't cut like, he ain't got the street part to him,

1317
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: and so he ain't confrontational at all. He ain't exactly

1318
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: And so with me coming from where I come from

1319
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: and the way I grew up, I'm kind of watching, like, Yo,

1320
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: he kind of rock with you stuff, but he kind

1321
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: of don't. He kind of keeping you at Bay. And

1322
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: so I took it up on myself to try to

1323
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: create fucking division there because I knew that if we

1324
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: wanted to win, we had to go through them. And

1325
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: if we're going to get through, then we can't get

1326
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: through with you. With him keeping you at Bay, It's

1327
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 1: just not gonna happen. And I felt like that was

1328
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: a tactic of CP using that to fucking key stuff

1329
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: at Bay. And once Stuff started to kind of break

1330
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: out of that, and then all of a sudden you

1331
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: see him as CP get into it. I feel like

1332
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: that's when we really started to take off, because we

1333
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: had to go through y'all to get there. Yeah. Oh,

1334
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: I love hearing that because, like I said, I don't

1335
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: member what your comment was, but it was something like,

1336
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: I'm taking stuff all day every day. I don't give

1337
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: a funk what you think about CP blah blah blah.

1338
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: But I it's funny to see that was your that

1339
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: was your motive, that was your goal because you knew

1340
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: of their uh their existing relationship off the court. Absolutely,

1341
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: and I'm mad at that watching Lebron. You're seventeen and

1342
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 1: the fucking amazing season he had him being a personal

1343
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: friend to you, What are your thoughts on what he's

1344
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: how he's playing in your seventeen at the level he's

1345
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: been able to stay man um Lebron he incredible man. Like,

1346
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: like everybody appreciate Lebron the basketblayer and all of that,

1347
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate Lebron the person, but also the discipline that

1348
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: he has. You know, like, you're not able to maintain

1349
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: the level of greatness that he's been able to maintain

1350
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: without the discipline that he has, Like he gotta be

1351
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: one of the most disciplined people and players have ever

1352
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: graced his lead, you know what I'm saying. And That's

1353
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: why he's been able what years, seventeen eighteen, being able

1354
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: to maintain this level. It's it's his discipline, you know,

1355
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: he is his discipline and commitment to this game. And

1356
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, for me, uh, to build

1357
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: a relationship with Lebron Um, you know, it's been a

1358
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: special thing, you know, because I've been able to learn

1359
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: so much from him on and off the court. You know,

1360
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 1: I kind of Lebron is kind of He's been a

1361
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: troilblazer for for athletes as a whole and the way

1362
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: we think to that, and you know, I have an

1363
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: appreciation for that, And to be honest, I try to

1364
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 1: mock everything he do because I feel like, you know,

1365
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: he set the standard and giving us all a playbook

1366
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: to follow. And in sports, we're so we're we're a

1367
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: little fucked up, But you gotta be a little fucked

1368
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:12,919
Speaker 1: up to do what we do, you know what I'm saying,

1369
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: Like to compete the way we compete sometimes with with friends,

1370
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, you gotta be able

1371
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 1: to click it off and hate this motherfucker for forty

1372
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: eight minutes and then like snap out of it. You

1373
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like all life, yeah, and so

1374
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: we gotta be a little sick, and we all are,

1375
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: I think. But uh, and so with Lebron built, I've

1376
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: been able to build that relationship with him. But at

1377
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: the same time, when we stop on the court, we

1378
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: we both mutually know like I will lay you the

1379
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: funk up and yeah, and he will fucking run through me.

1380
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 1: And it is what it is. And I hate you

1381
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: while we on this court, but because we're trying to

1382
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: get the same thing, we're trying to get rings, you

1383
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, but that but that's the respect

1384
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: player showed each other. You know, we we we were cool,

1385
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: but were cool off the court. Everybody know that. But

1386
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: the respect is shown on the court. And you showed

1387
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: me respect by trying to take my head off, because

1388
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: that's the same way we supposed approach the game. And

1389
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: so for me, you know what I'm saying, like, I'm

1390
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: gonna try to take you out, but then off the

1391
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: court is love. And by the way, I'm trying my

1392
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: hardest to go through your fucking playbook and still it

1393
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 1: because in sports, you know, as sick as we are

1394
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: to turn that off and on, we're also a little

1395
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,560
Speaker 1: funked up from the standpoint like, oh, this guy is

1396
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: doing that, but why would I go do that? I'm

1397
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: gonna go do this, and you know, like, like I've

1398
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: said it before publicly, the CEO Apple ain't looking at

1399
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: the ceor Google like, oh, well, I'm not gonna do

1400
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: that because he's doing it. They may try to add

1401
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: their own, you know, something to their service to make

1402
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,600
Speaker 1: their service better, but they're not trying to go a

1403
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: completely different path. And in sports, we're almost conditioned, Like

1404
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 1: I was. I spoke on the slave mentality before sports,

1405
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,879
Speaker 1: we almost got a slave mentality of like, oh, Lebron's

1406
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: doing this one, I can't do that? Why the funk not?

1407
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: Like it's proven to be fucking great and it's proven

1408
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: to be the absolute golden standard of all gold. Why

1409
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,640
Speaker 1: not take that fucking playbook and call him and say, yo,

1410
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: what would you do in this situation? Why did you

1411
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 1: do this like this? Or you know, like like I

1412
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: talked to Brian earlier this year and I'm like, yo,

1413
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: I feel like I noticed that you kind of went

1414
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: from the villa to like just making everything about fun

1415
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 1: like my far off there, like, and he like I

1416
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: had to do that I had to do that to

1417
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 1: rEFInd the love for the game that I had as

1418
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: a kid, because that's what drove me my whole life.

1419
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: And then yeah, being like the villain was cool for

1420
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: a time, but I had to do that, you know

1421
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And like, obviously I've been a villain

1422
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: for a long time, like all my career pretty much,

1423
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: and so just trying to find different ways to pip

1424
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: One guy called is one guy that I've watched Lebron

1425
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 1: do it to a fucking t. Why not call him

1426
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 1: an accent? But we're so fucked up as athletes at

1427
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: times where it's like I'm not gonna call him an

1428
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: accent because that's a sign of weakness, or he's a

1429
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,600
Speaker 1: blueprint dog you can't call it next side, then you

1430
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 1: are fucking weak and you try to cover it up.

1431
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: You're not strong, and like staying strong, you're you're fucking weaken.

1432
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: You're trying to cover up your weakness. He's a blueprint,

1433
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 1: Lebron and blueprint I said all the time. I say,

1434
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 1: it's so many basketball players dre come along with a homeboys,

1435
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 1: try to do this, try to put everybody in place.

1436
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: He's the first athlete out of all the athletes that

1437
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: came along from the hood to get it right. He

1438
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 1: got his homeboys in place. He made sure everybody in

1439
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: the NBA making my life. He's He's changed a lot,

1440
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: a lot in the game and for his own people.

1441
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: And I've seen so many basketball players coming on, even

1442
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 1: myself that tried to put my people in place and

1443
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: couldn't do it right. So he is definitely the blueprint, bro.

1444
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,799
Speaker 1: And it makes no sense to get information from somebody

1445
01:10:57,840 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 1: else when the when the when the blueprint is giving

1446
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: away the information. Absolutely, they built, They've built the fucking empire.

1447
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,560
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. And I mean just another thing. I know

1448
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: you're huge. Just how I'm saying. I've heard you speak

1449
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: on before, understanding the business of basketball, the empowering yourself

1450
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: and what you represent, your CEO of your company. And

1451
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 1: and like we said, he has laid the foundation unlike

1452
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: any other athlete in the history of the game, you know,

1453
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 1: I mean, he has laid the foundation of mastering. Although

1454
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: Jordan had his, you know his Jordan's and Kobe was

1455
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 1: on his path rest in peace. Lebron has showed you

1456
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: the business of basketball in several different reunds and how

1457
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 1: being the CEO of my company on this court could

1458
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: open up every door in the world for me. And

1459
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: no one has done that better than he has. Absolutely,

1460
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: it's like I said, it's completely changed the mindset of

1461
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: the athlete as a whole. Like, not just basketball players,

1462
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: football players, like athletes as a whole. It's completely changed

1463
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: the mind of an athlete. And it's and once you

1464
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: change the mind, the mind is what gives us power.

1465
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: Knowledge is power. And so he's changed the mindset of

1466
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: an athlete, which in turn has given us athletes much

1467
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: more power. And I I personally, I don't think he'd

1468
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 1: get enough credit for Like, yeah, we give him credit

1469
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: because that's how we was raised. Its love, you know

1470
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's love for our brother. But HI

1471
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: don't get enough credit for what he's done. And as

1472
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: much credit as he gets, he gets credit for being

1473
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: a great basketball plaker. Fun that like, he fucking changed

1474
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: the mind of an athlete, of the athlete as a whole.

1475
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: And that's special, right, It's huge. Talk to us a

1476
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: little bit about I mean we talked about obviously off

1477
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: the court. Talked to us about on the court, because

1478
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 1: that was your guys, man, you guys met him in

1479
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 1: the finals consistently, and you know you possibly you tell

1480
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: me it could have been obviously a three peat. You

1481
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: don't get kicked out of the series. Was that was

1482
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: that six team? Yeah? Six team? Right, you know what

1483
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: I mean? So talk to us about what stood out

1484
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: the most about going up against him and Kyree and

1485
01:12:55,680 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: and those battles. I think, well, first off, I'll just

1486
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: speak on him and Kyrie and theirthing, Like I think

1487
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: they kind of had the perfect thing, you know what

1488
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, to where like Lebron is fucking great. You

1489
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He gone the ultimate floor general.

1490
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He Lebron can control an

1491
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: entire forty eight minute game. I mean we watched him

1492
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: do it against Boston, like the game six and seven,

1493
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 1: he played forty eight minutes and he controlled the entire

1494
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: place of the game. But he can do that in

1495
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: any game. Controlling into absurd and so, which I think

1496
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: is what makes them so great. But Kyrie being next

1497
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:31,839
Speaker 1: to him, it kind of took the weight off Kyrie

1498
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 1: to do anything else. But when I give you the

1499
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 1: ball to go score, go score, you know what I'm saying.

1500
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 1: So I think they kind of had a perfect match

1501
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: and it it kind of you know, it happens a

1502
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 1: lot in sports and music where you know someone wants

1503
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: more like and you have a matchmate of heaven and

1504
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it's broken up to realm.

1505
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think that's kind of

1506
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 1: what happened in their situation, and being that they kept

1507
01:13:53,720 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 1: running up against us, it may have like expediting, yeah,

1508
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 1: but I think they had They definitely had a great thing.

1509
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: Kyrie kind of came out and said that this year,

1510
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,560
Speaker 1: like yo, I had to call a year ago or

1511
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 1: something like, you know, I called Bran and said bad

1512
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: And I respect Kyrie for that. But they had a

1513
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: real good thing going for sure. And come in love

1514
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: with them as well. They like like they were a

1515
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 1: really good team. Um. But you know when when you

1516
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: start to talk about like US meeting in the finals,

1517
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: like yeah, they had no fucking shot at winning in

1518
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen, like people talk all of oh, yeah,

1519
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: I blew it three want leave U, Like they was

1520
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: coming back here game five and they didn't have a

1521
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: fucking clue of how they was gonna win that game.

1522
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: I got suspended. They win game five. We're going back

1523
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 1: to Cleveland for game six. Okay, you go back home

1524
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 1: for game six. It's fucking loud as hell. I'm coming

1525
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 1: back from a suspension. Like everything's kind of thrown off.

1526
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: They win game six, all three of us know. You

1527
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: go to game seven and it's a fucking coin slipping game.

1528
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 1: Any games seven, like you gotta get playing who Game

1529
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 1: seven is a coin flip and show enough. The game

1530
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: went down to the wire and Kyrie hit a tough shot.

1531
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's game seven, and so

1532
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 1: uh you know, will we have three PtD? Though I

1533
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 1: can't necessarily say we wouldn't have we would have three

1534
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: PtD because what I will say is this, and two

1535
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: thousands sixteen, two thousand and fifteen, we beat the ship

1536
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: out of everybody, and nobody had a clue out how

1537
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 1: to stop us. Two thousand and sixteen, things got a

1538
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 1: little harder, but we were able to figure it out.

1539
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:42,640
Speaker 1: We won uh seventy three games, but like we had to,

1540
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 1: we had to move a lot, Like it wasn't just

1541
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 1: the same exact offense we ran a year before. Like

1542
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 1: it was like Steve Kerr was playing chess and he

1543
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 1: was making great moves, but it was it was always

1544
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: a chess match two sixteen. Although we won more games,

1545
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't as easy. And then we got to the

1546
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean can't even remember. In two thousand sixteen, we

1547
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 1: got to Okay see uh, and we were down three one,

1548
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 1: and we kind of switched our matchups back to normal

1549
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: and pretty much said, all right, we're gonna as opposed

1550
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 1: to making everybody else beat us and and and trying

1551
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 1: to take Kevin and Russ away. Everybody else was beating us.

1552
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,919
Speaker 1: Let's make Kevin and Rust beat us and take everybody

1553
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: else away. And it was a fucking chest move by

1554
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr and it worked to fucking perfection and we

1555
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 1: were able to come back and win that series. And

1556
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 1: then we go on to the finals and I get suspended.

1557
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: We were gonna win that series, but to say we

1558
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 1: were going to three ft, I'm not sure we would

1559
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,759
Speaker 1: have won in two thousand seventeen, because you know, teams

1560
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: have started changing. They were preparing for us, like watching

1561
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 1: film on us all summer, and so it was starting

1562
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,799
Speaker 1: to get harder. So because we lost in two thousand sixteen,

1563
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: we've ben got Kevin, and once we got Kevin. We

1564
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: were sucking unstoppable, even losing last year. Kevin, don't get hurt,

1565
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 1: like you see that game and came back game five.

1566
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: I looked up there, so we had like forty points

1567
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 1: in the first quarter, and it ses it. They wouldn't

1568
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: have stood a chance if Kevin didn't get hurt. But

1569
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 1: you know, ship happens, and that's the part of the game.

1570
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Injuries happened, and Kauai was

1571
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: fucking amazing. You know what I'm saying, Pascal Siata, they

1572
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,600
Speaker 1: were fucking amazing. But you know, to go back to

1573
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen in Lebron, like those matchups in

1574
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 1: the finals with le Bron and Kyrie and now and

1575
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: then Lebron by himself, uh or with Kevin loving Kyrie

1576
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: is gone, Like they were fucking incredible matchups. You know

1577
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We were able to get the better

1578
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: of it. But I don't think we would have lost

1579
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: in two thousand and sixteen. I know we wouldn't have lost.

1580
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: We would have won game five and it would have

1581
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,759
Speaker 1: been over. But ship happens. But two thousand and seventeen

1582
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 1: and eighteen probably wouldn't have been the same either, because

1583
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: getting Kevin played a huge role in that, you know

1584
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, what does the dynasty end up

1585
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: going as long as it did? Probably not, you know,

1586
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 1: but when we got Kevin, it fucking made it. You know,

1587
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 1: it started over, started over because, like I said, you

1588
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:07,560
Speaker 1: you got a chance to win without him. Fifteen sixteen

1589
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: you get suspended, you don't win. Seventeen You get him,

1590
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 1: and it turned the world upside down. And we had

1591
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 1: talked to him earlier, earlier, and I want to say

1592
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 1: in January maybe, and how how just the world shift?

1593
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 1: He went from the guy that everyone liked, everyone hated,

1594
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: and he came and joined your guys team obviously with

1595
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: open arms. Talk to me about that run and all

1596
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,839
Speaker 1: the success you guys had, the greatest team ever possibly,

1597
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,640
Speaker 1: and then how it ended and and and and how

1598
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 1: you the game you guys got into it, and how

1599
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: that process ended up into where we are now. Uh yeah,

1600
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: So I mean that was that was great, you know

1601
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like for me as a competitor, I'm

1602
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 1: always looking for that next way to get better, you

1603
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that. So when I signed my contract,

1604
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 1: my first or my second contract, first safe for five

1605
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 1: years eighty two. At the time, my agent was b

1606
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: J Armstrong and b J when we met, he had

1607
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 1: the book, you know, like of everybody's books and the

1608
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 1: and lead their salary cheap. And when he when we met,

1609
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 1: he showed me he said, all right, here's y'rr salary,

1610
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 1: here's everybody else salary, and here you are. Now you

1611
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 1: can take the maps and that's fine or next year

1612
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: clips Okay, See, this guy is up. And what I

1613
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 1: can tell you is there's a chance y'all can get him.

1614
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: And so I'm like, what really, And he like, there's

1615
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: a chance y'all can get him. He's like, but Dre,

1616
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. Just know that, just you know,

1617
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: y'all can use him and it'll be great for y'all.

1618
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: And just as much as y'all need him, he needs

1619
01:19:56,160 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: y'all too, And so don't think like, oh, like the

1620
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: world is for y'all, like you won championship and like

1621
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 1: y'all can get him. We had just one in fifteen,

1622
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 1: that's when I signed it. Deal. He's like, but just

1623
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 1: as much as you would like to have him, or

1624
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 1: y'all may need him in the future. He needs y'all too,

1625
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 1: And so I'm like, well, shoot, all right, here's what

1626
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 1: you can take, and y'all still be able to get him.

1627
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 1: And so my max was ninety six million. He's like,

1628
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: you can take eighty five million and y'all still be

1629
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 1: able to account and direct. So then he gave me

1630
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: a blank sheet of paper and he like, write down

1631
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 1: your number what you want real quick? This was before

1632
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,799
Speaker 1: the year before you were able to get him. Correct

1633
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 1: is two thousand fifteen? Wow? Early, early, Yeah, this is

1634
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 1: after we won a championship with two thousand fifteen. I'm

1635
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: already looking how can we get better and how can

1636
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 1: we win more championships. I'm already on that, you know.

1637
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 1: So I always see this story like, oh, Draymond lost

1638
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 1: and cried to Kevin in the car. First off, I

1639
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 1: ain't crying to no man. First off. Secondly, my mom

1640
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 1: was already on this a whole year before. Like, because

1641
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm always looking to get better. You don't win the

1642
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 1: championship and get staggered and you get caught, and so

1643
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 1: right down your number. So I wrote down eighty two

1644
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 1: on a white blank sheet of paper. He's like, okay,

1645
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 1: you're sure you want eighty two. Your max is ninety six,

1646
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 1: you can get eighty five. I'm like, eighty two is cool,

1647
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 1: just eighty two. Just give me eighty two. He said, okay, circling.

1648
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 1: But if you're circling, I'm leaving this room and we're

1649
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 1: gonna get eighty two. I circled it. He took the

1650
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 1: paper and walked out. It was a little standoff for

1651
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 1: a minute with the Warriors. They didn't kind of want

1652
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: to budge off seventy. And then an hour or two later,

1653
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 1: once I was about to start, I'll start talking another team,

1654
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 1: and it was done. Now we played that year. We

1655
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 1: went seventy three, all of this the series. So when

1656
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 1: we lost in Game seven, I'm immediately like, ship, what's

1657
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: the next move? How do we get better? Oh? Fuck?

1658
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant the free agent, so I leave. I hit

1659
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: him up, like yo, what's up? And he liked, Ship, Hey,

1660
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: I'm ready, And I'm like say that ready, Like, let's

1661
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 1: do it. I talked to staff. It's not now that

1662
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 1: I talked to Clay, let's do it. So then after

1663
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:38,759
Speaker 1: I talked to Kevin, you know, a week passed by, whatnot,

1664
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 1: and I talked to playing stuff again. I'm like yo,

1665
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: Andre like, I put them all a group chat and

1666
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: Sean like, Yo, y'all really want to get Kevin because

1667
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 1: I think we can get them. And they like, yeah,

1668
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 1: hell yeah, we want them. Say let's let's do it.

1669
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: So we rock out. We get them two times and

1670
01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 1: seventeen we started the season and Steph and Stephan Clay

1671
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 1: not not Stephan, Clay Clay is Clay. Clay gonna just

1672
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: sucking shoot. That's what Clay do. Clay ain't sucking, not

1673
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 1: shooting for nobody. Clay takes some shots at times. I'll

1674
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 1: be like, Yo, Clay, what the fuck. That's a dumb

1675
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 1: blass shot. He said, Dre, they fucking pay me the shoot,

1676
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 1: Say let's Clay go ahead. So so Clay gonna just shoot.

1677
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 1: But Steph and Kevin, obviously they do more with the

1678
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,679
Speaker 1: ball than Clay, you know what I'm saying. So they're

1679
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 1: kind of deferring to each other at the beginning of

1680
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 1: that season like, oh, you take it, Ah, you take it.

1681
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: And it was sucking us up, you know what I'm saying.

1682
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: So because and so Christmas Day come around and we

1683
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: played the Calf and Kyrie hit the little shimmy over

1684
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 1: Clay from the block and it's like, oh, day who

1685
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 1: Kyrie hits the game winner. But we were still kind

1686
01:23:55,600 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 1: of figuring it out that Christmas Day. And after that

1687
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: Christmas Day game, Kevin told Steph like, Yo, I need

1688
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 1: you to fucking play, like, just be you. I'm good,

1689
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 1: I'll be all right, I'll get my shot, I'll get

1690
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 1: the ball. Just go fucking play and do what you do.

1691
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: I don't need you to defer to me. I'm good.

1692
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: When Kevin told step that, Steph turned up. Kevin was

1693
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 1: being Kevin, and we fucking That's when we took off

1694
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 1: and we end up playing the Cavs that that Jane word,

1695
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 1: um Mark Luther King Dad. We beat there As by

1696
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: forty or fifty, and and it was just like, okay,

1697
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 1: now this is what we've been waiting onf Now at

1698
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 1: this point, when does June get here finals this one?

1699
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: This ship is over. Kevin is happy as him like,

1700
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 1: not complaining about nothing, like just enjoying playing good basketball.

1701
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 1: And every interview you watch, it's like, yo, I just

1702
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 1: don't want to play the basketball. I am now enjoying

1703
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 1: playing basketball and being with this team. Everything was fucking great,

1704
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And we win a championship,

1705
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 1: Kevin went finds m v P. He fucking, in my opinion,

1706
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 1: he got the best Lebron that series, Like Kevin was

1707
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 1: fucking rocket and and we go on and honestly, you

1708
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: turned on like after that. That was kind of that

1709
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 1: moment of like, damn, Kevin should be the best player

1710
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: in the NBA now because of what he just did Lebron.

1711
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 1: And it's like you turned on the TV the next

1712
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 1: day and every like the fucking the headline is Lebron

1713
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 1: ja still the best player in the world question mark

1714
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: like Stephen and you got all these people debating it,

1715
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 1: and everybody still says Lebron James is the best player

1716
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 1: in the world. That's when I kind of felt like

1717
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 1: it took a turn. And then we came back two

1718
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen, two thousand and eighteen season, and Kevin

1719
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,560
Speaker 1: just wasn't as happy, you know what I'm saying. He

1720
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 1: wasn't as like, self, do what you do, Clay, do

1721
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 1: what you do. All of a sudden, it was kind

1722
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 1: of just like, fun, why why step shooting this shot

1723
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 1: or came pass the ball? Or why play shooting this shot?

1724
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 1: Of why ain't passed the ball, and I'm just sitting

1725
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 1: there like, yo, that's the same play. And Steff I've

1726
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: always played with, Like they ain't playing no different than

1727
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 1: they've always playing. And I know those two guys, they're

1728
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 1: definitely not looking you off, you know what I'm saying.

1729
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 1: They may not see you because they fucking got tunnal

1730
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 1: vision at times, which old scores do. Got tunnel this

1731
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: at that times, and that's why they're great scores. But

1732
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna never just fucking look you off. I

1733
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 1: hadn't play with them since I came in to this league.

1734
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 1: That ain't who they are, but like all of a sudden,

1735
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 1: everything became an issue, you know what I'm saying. So

1736
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,679
Speaker 1: it's kind of at this point of like that fucking season.

1737
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: I know you probably remember David West saying, like y'all

1738
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 1: don't know the amount of ship that happened for us

1739
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 1: when we went back to back, Like y'all don't know

1740
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: the amount of ship that we had to go through

1741
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: this year to win this championship. This is amazing that

1742
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 1: we were ever put off because it was all just

1743
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,560
Speaker 1: everybody bumping heads all of a sudden, Like Kevin and

1744
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,560
Speaker 1: Steve is like this now, all of a sudden, you know,

1745
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 1: Stafford Clay or somebody like like take a shot and

1746
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 1: it's a problem all. And it wasn't that the year before.

1747
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 1: It was just like, yo, I'm playing a good basketball.

1748
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm happy. And then they kind of changed, you know

1749
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And so we went through that whole season.

1750
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 1: It was tough, and I'm talking to Bob Myers, I'm like, yo,

1751
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:32,560
Speaker 1: I don't think Kevin coming back here. And you know,

1752
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 1: Kevin has said to me once before, like they keep

1753
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: this bullshit up, I get out of here, you know

1754
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Me and Katie was real close, you know,

1755
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 1: some always in between everybody talking him off the ledge,

1756
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: fucking telling stuff like yo, we need to get k

1757
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 1: and touched, like you know, me and Andre would kind

1758
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 1: of be that guy like, yo, Kevin ain't had to

1759
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: touch a place. Let's get let's call some sense for him.

1760
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: Because Clay and stuff running rapid right now, and that's

1761
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 1: what they do and that's what makes them great. So

1762
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 1: ain't nobody ever gonna stop them from unarrested. But at times,

1763
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 1: like Andre and myself for Seann, you just have to

1764
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,640
Speaker 1: dollar back in like that's the part of play with them.

1765
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 1: It is what it is, and it wasn't a problem

1766
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 1: in two thousand seventeen, but now two thousand and eighteen,

1767
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 1: it's always issue, and so that was a challenge, you

1768
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying to like just trying to figure out,

1769
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 1: like how is Kevin gonna react to certain ships? You

1770
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that that would happen with the team,

1771
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 1: or that Steve Kurt would do, Like Steve Kurt would

1772
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: call a play for him and he'd be like, I

1773
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 1: don't want you to call a play. I want you

1774
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 1: to fucking make them play the right way. And it's like, Yo,

1775
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Like you you say you

1776
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 1: need the ball, and you want the ball, but then

1777
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 1: when I call a play for you, it ain't that,

1778
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, so what is it?

1779
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 1: It's it's obviously a much bigger problem than just you

1780
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 1: getting the ball, you know what I'm saying. And so

1781
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 1: we go on two thousand and eighteen. However we win it.

1782
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 1: Now I'm like, yo, I don't think he's coming back.

1783
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: But the thought of three pet no one does that.

1784
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: You got the Lakers, You got sucking bulls. A couple

1785
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 1: of times. You got the Celtics, I think, like, no

1786
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 1: one three peces and so, and the Spurs, as great

1787
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 1: as they were, never three ft. I don't even think

1788
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 1: they ever want to back to back, but they never

1789
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 1: three pets and so. No one does that. So the

1790
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 1: thought of that is like ship, let's go run this

1791
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 1: back and three p and so. I think he came

1792
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 1: back because of that. But his heart wasn't here no more,

1793
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like he was kind of

1794
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 1: one ft in and one ft out from the very

1795
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 1: beginning of the season, and in two thousand and nineteen

1796
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: is twenty and two tho nineteen kind of one ft

1797
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 1: and one ft out. But the one thing about Kevin

1798
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 1: is he loved a game of basketball and he's going

1799
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 1: to give it one every time he step on the floor.

1800
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk if it's a game, if

1801
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 1: it's a workout like that dude when he worked out.

1802
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all I know, Matt you have stack.

1803
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: You probably have in the world. I'm sure haven't. But

1804
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 1: if you watch this dude workout, every rep he do

1805
01:29:56,320 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 1: is fucking game speed like tons work out. Watch him

1806
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 1: fucking workout it's like mesmerizing, like the fucking heart. Like

1807
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 1: as a basketball player, you and I, all three of

1808
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 1: us know to go every rep game speed in the

1809
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 1: fucking workout. It's just not it's not realistic. But he does.

1810
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 1: I mean, and every fucking rep I've ever seen him

1811
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 1: doing work is game fucking speed, Like it's crazy. And

1812
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 1: so the one thing you could always depend on is

1813
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 1: no matter what, once he stepped on on the court,

1814
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna bust his ass because that's just who he is.

1815
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 1: That he worked his ass off. But it was kind

1816
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 1: of always commotion all year. And so the beginning of

1817
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 1: the year, I told Bob and Steve, I'm like, yo,

1818
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm struggling with Kevin right now. He kind of not here,

1819
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,679
Speaker 1: Like I need some help, you know what I'm saying,

1820
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm trying and it's frustrating. I need some help.

1821
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 1: And everybody it's like, yeah, okay, you know what I'm saying.

1822
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:03,679
Speaker 1: We understand, we get it all right, cool, but nobody

1823
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 1: did ship and so I'm kind of stuck in this

1824
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 1: position and like, yo, I told you all, I need

1825
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 1: some help, and like she getting tougher and tougher. He

1826
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 1: kind of won for them and one foot out. But

1827
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 1: all right, and so we're going We're playing the Clippers,

1828
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 1: and now at this point, like you know how I

1829
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 1: am like, I'm a roll with you. You know what

1830
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I fucking take the bullet for you.

1831
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm a fucking I'll take the heat in the media

1832
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: for you. I'll take the suspension for you, I'll take

1833
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 1: the fund, I'll take the tech. I'm gonna take whatever

1834
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 1: for my guys. But in return, all I need from you,

1835
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:39,679
Speaker 1: it's just to know that you're with me. I don't

1836
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:41,640
Speaker 1: need you to step in front of me. I just

1837
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:43,680
Speaker 1: need to know you with me. As long as you

1838
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:46,680
Speaker 1: with me, I'll take the bullet. I'll do whatever. And

1839
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:50,680
Speaker 1: so you know, we we're going on. And then in

1840
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 1: that Clipper game, we're coming down to the stretch. When

1841
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 1: I get the rebound, what do I do. I get

1842
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:01,680
Speaker 1: the rebound, I'll push the ball. I find one of them,

1843
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I get the rebound,

1844
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:08,680
Speaker 1: I take off, flapping loud and ship and I'm like, yo,

1845
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 1: come on, I'm taking off. I'm going I started to

1846
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 1: cross over and go across court, and in my mind

1847
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm already thinking like oh, he trailing. I'm about to

1848
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 1: cross over and take this guy standing here and I'm

1849
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 1: gonna just flip it back. He's gonna step into a three.

1850
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 1: He stepped into a three. Is game over? We out

1851
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 1: of here? He could he kind of he stuck back there,

1852
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:35,679
Speaker 1: clapping and kind of moseying up. So when I go across,

1853
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm waiting to flip. He kind of not there, and

1854
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:42,600
Speaker 1: I turned it over and we're going over time. He

1855
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 1: come to the bench and he slapped the Ben's like, yo,

1856
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 1: pass me the fucking ball. And I'm like, yo, what,

1857
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:54,839
Speaker 1: Like I fucking crossed the cross like running sideways across

1858
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:56,799
Speaker 1: the top of the three point line. I'm not clearly

1859
01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 1: not about the shoot. And I'm like, if the funk

1860
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:03,600
Speaker 1: out of here, like fucking run then and he like,

1861
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:05,760
Speaker 1: you heard what the funk I said, and slaps the chair.

1862
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 1: Pass me the fucking ball. So when he said pat

1863
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 1: like he's doing that, I'm like, yo, you better like

1864
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 1: calm the funk down. I don't know who the funk

1865
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 1: you talking to. And then that's kind of where I

1866
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 1: went from, Like when I'm like I remember I'm already know,

1867
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 1: like I got to post to this team. I got

1868
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:27,640
Speaker 1: the postal organization. I already know you want for them

1869
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 1: and one for out By the way, I'm the closest

1870
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 1: person here to you, Like when you have a problem

1871
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 1: with ship going on in your life and the person

1872
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 1: you talk to here is me, Like when I'm struggling

1873
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:40,800
Speaker 1: with something, I talked to you, like we got that relationship.

1874
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 1: So I already know you want for them and one

1875
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:45,799
Speaker 1: for everybody else may not know or maybe a secret

1876
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 1: to them, but I know I got the post and

1877
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 1: so that's where it all. Like, I'm like, Yo, who

1878
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 1: the funk you think you're talking to? Like I've been

1879
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 1: then all start before you got here, and no matter

1880
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:00,560
Speaker 1: what I've been doing this, don't talk to me like

1881
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:02,519
Speaker 1: I'm one of these little dudes that just don't know

1882
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 1: how to who. I'm a grown ass man. I've been

1883
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:07,720
Speaker 1: doing this before you got here. You need to come

1884
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 1: to funk down. And that's when you're like and then

1885
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 1: he started cussing back, and I'm cussing back, and then

1886
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 1: the markets pulled me out of the huddle and like, yo,

1887
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:18,799
Speaker 1: calm down, like I feel where you're coming from, but relax,

1888
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 1: like it's too much. But at this point now I'm

1889
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,679
Speaker 1: fucking furious. We're going overtime. We ain't said a word

1890
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 1: each other. I think we lost that game and you know,

1891
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 1: we're moving forward, and it just wasn't right. And so

1892
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 1: I met with Steve Kerr and Bob Myers when we

1893
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 1: landed and they're like, they meet with me. My fiance

1894
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 1: was on the team plan with us, and she's sitting

1895
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:45,640
Speaker 1: in the car. I turned the heat off. She's sit

1896
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 1: in the car. I'm thinking to meet, gonna be quit.

1897
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 1: She sleep in the car. I'm in the meeting at

1898
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:53,280
Speaker 1: the airport terminal for like an hour forty five minutes

1899
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 1: with them, and they're pretty much telling me like, you

1900
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 1: were wrong. You apologizing my thing that it was. I

1901
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:01,599
Speaker 1: told you all this, Like so yeah, it boiled over,

1902
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:04,640
Speaker 1: but this shouldn't be no surprise to nobody, Like I

1903
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 1: told y'all what it was coming, and nobody did nothing.

1904
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 1: I told you all this was coming. And so when

1905
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 1: that happened, they were like kept telling me, like, yo,

1906
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:19,840
Speaker 1: you need to apologize, and I'm like, I'm not fucking apologizing,

1907
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 1: like he won for them and one foot all, I

1908
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 1: meant what I said. I'm not sucking apologizing for something

1909
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 1: not meant to say, you know what I'm saying, like,

1910
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm not apologize. After an hour and forty five minutes,

1911
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 1: they like, you go home, you meet us in the morning,

1912
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 1: you sleep on it, maybe you feel different. And we

1913
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 1: meet and they're like, so you're gonna apologize, and I'm like,

1914
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm not apologize. Like so then Steve tell me like,

1915
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 1: all right, well, we're gonna suspend you for tonight's game.

1916
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 1: We played the Hawks to night, was on the back

1917
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 1: to back. We're gonna suspend you for a tonice game.

1918
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 1: The Bob said it. I started laughing, and he's like, well,

1919
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 1: that's not the response I expect you to have. I'm like, well,

1920
01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:00,160
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like y'all suspended to me

1921
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 1: to try to save Kevin. You know what I'm saying,

1922
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 1: to try to like make him feel good, because that's bullshit.

1923
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 1: I ain't never seen no player and get suspended for

1924
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 1: arguing with another player, So y'all really trying to save him?

1925
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 1: It is funny to me. He was like, yeah, that's

1926
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 1: the wrong approach you're taking, or that's like that's not

1927
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:20,760
Speaker 1: the reaction. I said, Well, here's the thing. I'm either

1928
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 1: cut you out for this or I'm a laugh about it.

1929
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 1: I'm choosing the laugh because this is actually funny to

1930
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:29,639
Speaker 1: me that you're suspending me for arguing with a player.

1931
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna just laugh about it because it's actually funny.

1932
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 1: So that means then I go home whatever. But I

1933
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 1: told him, I said, you're gonna make a mistake suspending me,

1934
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:40,680
Speaker 1: because the only person that can fix this is me.

1935
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:44,719
Speaker 1: Like y'all can't fix it, y'all, suspending me ain't gonna

1936
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:46,600
Speaker 1: fix it. The only person that can fix it is me.

1937
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 1: And by the way, y'all are going to affect everybody

1938
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:51,640
Speaker 1: else in the organization more than y'all affect me by

1939
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 1: suspending me. Everybody else is gonna be affected, not me.

1940
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 1: I'll be fine. I've been suspended before. I'll be all right.

1941
01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 1: I know how to deal with this. Everybody else not

1942
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 1: gonna know how in turn I got to suspended. They

1943
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 1: still did it sure enough. I still had to correct it,

1944
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 1: so nothing happened like I got fined, and yet I

1945
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 1: was still the one that had to go back and

1946
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 1: fix the problem. And so I kind of passed it up,

1947
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Made it better, but it

1948
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 1: was never the same after that. But to me, it

1949
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:22,560
Speaker 1: was never it wasn't the same before that, you know

1950
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, like it was very easy to

1951
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 1: for you know, for Kevin to say, oh, it wasn't

1952
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 1: the same after that, But as someone who had the

1953
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 1: post of this team and still you know, the post

1954
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 1: of this organization, it wasn't the same before that, and

1955
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 1: it hadn't been the same for at least a year

1956
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 1: at this point. It just had gone from bad to worst.

1957
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 1: But we were so talented that the outside world couldn't

1958
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:49,639
Speaker 1: tell that there was problems. Only we could tell because

1959
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 1: we were still beat the ship out of everybody, because

1960
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 1: we got three of the best force in the league. Like,

1961
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 1: of course everybody else can tell because we're still gonna

1962
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 1: win and we of course we can fuck defend. So yeah,

1963
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 1: we're just fine. And we may be the exception of

1964
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:11,640
Speaker 1: like you can't win, not on the same page. We

1965
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:13,800
Speaker 1: may be that exception, you know what I'm saying, because

1966
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 1: we were just so fucking talented and we were still

1967
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 1: able to win games. But by the play by time

1968
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 1: the playoffs came, we were trying to correct it, but

1969
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 1: it still wasn't right. And then I think game two

1970
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 1: of the Clippers series, uh, which was Kevin's last year here.

1971
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 1: Game two of that series, he kind of quit and

1972
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 1: just was standing in the corner frustrated. And that's it

1973
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 1: literally took some people that long to notice, like, yo,

1974
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:41,680
Speaker 1: something wrong with him. And I'm like, Yo, this is

1975
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 1: the same thing I said in November. And now everybody

1976
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 1: want to come to me like YO, what's wrong with Kevin?

1977
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:49,640
Speaker 1: Or what's this? And what's that? And I'm like, the

1978
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 1: funk are y'all talking about like this? I said this

1979
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 1: in December or November whenever that was November, y'all just

1980
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:01,639
Speaker 1: now seeing this it took for him to go stand

1981
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 1: in the corner and I want the ball for y'all

1982
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 1: to finally see that it ain't the same. I saw

1983
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:11,560
Speaker 1: this a year ago. And so my whole thing with

1984
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 1: the Kevin situation was like it's easy to point the

1985
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 1: finger and say, oh, Drakemond did this, or you know,

1986
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 1: like it wasn't the same for me once he said that.

1987
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 1: What I will say is me and Kevin relationship wasn't

1988
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 1: the same when that happened. But ain't she changed from

1989
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 1: Kevin the basketball player? Me and him just ain't had

1990
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:32,640
Speaker 1: the same closeness that we had off the floor, but

1991
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 1: it ain't changed him as a basketball player and to

1992
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:37,840
Speaker 1: even taking a step furtherest, like oh, Kevin left because

1993
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 1: of Drakemond. Like listen, man, I've done a lot for

1994
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 1: this organization, helped win three titles, helped get the five

1995
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 1: titles back. I grew up in this organization. Bob Myers

1996
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 1: I consider a great friend. I consider Bob a mentor.

1997
01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 1: And Bob is somebody that I'll talk to, like after

1998
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:54,720
Speaker 1: he leave go to State, or after I leave go

1999
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 1: to State, or whether I retire here or rather he

2000
01:39:57,120 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 1: retire here, whatever, I I was gonna talk to Bob

2001
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:03,559
Speaker 1: no matter what, forever, Like he's a friend of mine,

2002
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 1: somebody that I trust his opinion, somebody that understands me,

2003
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 1: like who helped me through life, almost like a life coach.

2004
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:15,719
Speaker 1: We're great friends. But one thing I know about Bob.

2005
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:19,720
Speaker 1: Two things is hey, he's a very honest person. One

2006
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 1: that Bob is one of those people that he don't

2007
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 1: know how to lie, Like he can try to lie

2008
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:25,880
Speaker 1: to you, he don't know how to lie. He gonna

2009
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 1: he gonna try it a lot to your funk around

2010
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:30,800
Speaker 1: and tell you the truth that you probably can't bear

2011
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:32,720
Speaker 1: but that's just vib and if you know Bob, you

2012
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 1: gotta be able to take that. So being that he's

2013
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 1: a great friend and all of that, this is fucking

2014
01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant we're talking about, like, yeah, I've done great

2015
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 1: things here. But let me tell you this, I know Bob,

2016
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,519
Speaker 1: And if it was such a big deal with Kevin

2017
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 1: me here and me being here, is Kevin really wanted

2018
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 1: to be here? All all he would have done is

2019
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 1: when and said to Bob like, yeah, I'll be I'll stay,

2020
01:40:56,720 --> 01:41:00,200
Speaker 1: but Draymond gotta go. And guess what by My would

2021
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: have called me and said, Draymond, I love you and

2022
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 1: I won't trace you to a bad team, but where

2023
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 1: do you want to go? Because I'll help you get

2024
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 1: to where you want to go. And so to try

2025
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 1: to you know, point the finger and say, oh, man,

2026
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 1: I left because him might get the funk out of here,

2027
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 1: Like and I still love k you know what I'm saying, Like,

2028
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:19,640
Speaker 1: you know his his feelings about me may not be

2029
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 1: the same, but I'll robbing him for the rest of

2030
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:23,639
Speaker 1: my life, you know what I'm saying. Like I got

2031
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 1: that type of love for that bro. You know what

2032
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But but you ain't leaving because of me,

2033
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:32,760
Speaker 1: like you're sucking Kevin Durrett. You wanted to be here,

2034
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:35,679
Speaker 1: I would have been out. If I was the issue,

2035
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:39,800
Speaker 1: I would have been long gone. And guess who would

2036
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:44,760
Speaker 1: have understood that? You? I understand that. I like I

2037
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 1: understand the business of basketball. I understand how this ship works.

2038
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 1: If Kevin Durrett want to be somewhere and he don't

2039
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 1: want me here, I'm out. So the whole, you know,

2040
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 1: the whole narrative of like he left because of me,

2041
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 1: Like I haven't said much about it all year, you know,

2042
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:01,600
Speaker 1: and so I just kind of let people talk. You

2043
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But if I'm gonna talk about it,

2044
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about it with two people, two brothers.

2045
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 1: I respect, you know what I'm saying, and get it

2046
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 1: getting real. But he ain't sucking leave because of me.

2047
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 1: He was one ft in the one foot out and

2048
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 1: he left because he wanted to leave. Because if he

2049
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 1: wanted to be here and me being here was an issue,

2050
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:23,519
Speaker 1: I would have been out. And that's just the real.

2051
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:28,639
Speaker 1: Tell me what it's been like trying to navigate truth.

2052
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 1: You could you kind of touched on the drag you

2053
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 1: said you just sat back when a lot of like

2054
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 1: bullshit was told, fake story ship, you know it wasn't

2055
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 1: true to kind of just sit back and take that.

2056
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:40,800
Speaker 1: And because it's hard to do and not a lot

2057
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 1: of people could do it, speak on that, not only

2058
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 1: just in the Kevin, not only in the Kevin situation,

2059
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:48,799
Speaker 1: but just overall. I mean, you've had so much negative

2060
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 1: stuff and you're this and you're that, and like I said,

2061
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 1: being on the inside. We know what you mean to

2062
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 1: that franchise and they obviously know what you mean. But

2063
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:57,680
Speaker 1: explain how you were able to navigate through all the

2064
01:42:57,720 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 1: bullshit that was said about your lies said about you

2065
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 1: by the media. Oh well, I think for me, Um,

2066
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:06,760
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of always take the approach like

2067
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 1: and it's kind of been me my whole life of

2068
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:11,599
Speaker 1: like i'd rather you than me, you know what I'm saying,

2069
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 1: So like i'd rather you be good, and like they

2070
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:15,760
Speaker 1: tell the good story about you and tell the bad

2071
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 1: one for me about me, you know what I'm saying,

2072
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: Like I can take that. Like, you know, some people

2073
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 1: may need people to praise them to feel good, you

2074
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like they need that to boost

2075
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 1: their confidence. People praising me don't do nothing for me,

2076
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 1: you know, and so um, you know, for for me personally,

2077
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 1: it's just been kind of like I'll take the bullet

2078
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 1: and I'm not about to get in a back and

2079
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 1: forth with you all about what you may think, because

2080
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 1: one thing I also know is like to change, like

2081
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 1: you're not just changing somebody mind. Like what people think

2082
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 1: is what they think and it is this. So why

2083
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 1: would I waste my time trying to tell people what

2084
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:57,920
Speaker 1: the truth is or tell people how they should feel

2085
01:43:58,000 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 1: or what they should see. Like that's your own this

2086
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 1: and if that's what you see, then then it is

2087
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 1: what it is. And so you know, I've never really

2088
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:08,600
Speaker 1: kind of got all off into that, like I'm the

2089
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 1: same I'm the same person that used to get in

2090
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 1: trouble by my mom because I'll give like a kid

2091
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:15,320
Speaker 1: my last dollar, you know what I'm saying. It's like,

2092
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:18,040
Speaker 1: stop giving somebody your lives dollar. I'm like, well I

2093
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 1: don't need it, Like I'm gonna find another dollar like

2094
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 1: they needed that dollar, you know what I'm saying. So

2095
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 1: that's just kind of how I am to my court.

2096
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 1: That's who I've always been, and you know what I'm saying,

2097
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 1: then you start to build relationships with certain people, and

2098
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:34,680
Speaker 1: once you build a relationship, then my heart really take off.

2099
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 1: You know. So I got a big heart, and so

2100
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 1: once I build a relationship with you, I'm really gonna

2101
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 1: take the far for you to take the bullet and

2102
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 1: let you just keep going, you know what I'm saying.

2103
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:46,600
Speaker 1: So whether it's the truth of what everybody believe or not,

2104
01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: then that's the truth, and let them believe that. You

2105
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Whether you know the real truth

2106
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:54,680
Speaker 1: or not, it's one thing. But what one thing for

2107
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:57,599
Speaker 1: me is like who who need to know the real truth?

2108
01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:00,599
Speaker 1: Which is other people who may be a balled or whatever,

2109
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:02,680
Speaker 1: they know the real truth. And that's enough for me,

2110
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's enough gradication, gratification for me.

2111
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:08,719
Speaker 1: That's enough for me to feel good that I'm helping

2112
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 1: somebody else. It's the same way in basketball. It's like

2113
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 1: I get more out of getting an assistance start a point.

2114
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 1: Like I feel like when I get an assist, I

2115
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:19,720
Speaker 1: scored the point because I helped somebody else score. And

2116
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:22,400
Speaker 1: so that's just kind of how I always been. I

2117
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 1: ain't you know, I am not gonna fight for somebody

2118
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 1: to see it in my way or believe what I believe,

2119
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 1: or to even know the truth. Like, if that's your truth,

2120
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 1: that's your truth, go ahead and roll with it. Facts. Uh.

2121
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 1: Two thousand eighteen, UM kind of started a beef between

2122
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:42,040
Speaker 1: or you didn't start it, but a beef was started

2123
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 1: between you and Charles Barkley. UM talking about he would

2124
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 1: have punched you in the face on some ship after

2125
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 1: you got into a rondo. You go back in the

2126
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:53,439
Speaker 1: post game and motherfucking punched me. Then talk to me

2127
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 1: about what that has been like, because it's interesting and

2128
01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 1: ha ha. But me was like, on the inside, we

2129
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:02,640
Speaker 1: have a perspective too, But talk to me about what

2130
01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 1: that ship is like. I'm laughing, I'm laughing. I'm just laughing.

2131
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 1: I had to. I had to look away because I've

2132
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 1: seen this space to look away inside it. I got

2133
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 1: a lot of respect to Charles Barkley, the basketball player man.

2134
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:22,760
Speaker 1: As a fan of basketball growing up, Charles Barkley was

2135
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:28,280
Speaker 1: a great basketball player. Um, he never won ship and

2136
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 1: you know his Charles Barkley has kind of had this

2137
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 1: beef with me since I started coming up. You know

2138
01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I started coming up in this league,

2139
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 1: it's always him throwing a shot, throwing the shot, throwing

2140
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 1: the shot. For years, I didn't respond, you know what

2141
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying, It's just like whatever. You know, Charles Barkin,

2142
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:47,720
Speaker 1: great player, Like I'm not going to respond whatever, and

2143
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:50,919
Speaker 1: it's just keep throwing a shot, throwing the shot. Honestly,

2144
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:54,680
Speaker 1: it's jealousy, you know what I'm saying. It's jealousy that

2145
01:46:54,960 --> 01:47:00,040
Speaker 1: somebody the same size as him or smaller uh to

2146
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 1: come in to league and have the success I had,

2147
01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 1: make the money I've made, when the championships I've won,

2148
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 1: these are all things that Charles Barkley wasn't able to do,

2149
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like now, granted, he made

2150
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:15,600
Speaker 1: a lot of money for his time, but you and

2151
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:18,519
Speaker 1: I both know the money has changed. All three of

2152
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 1: us know has changed in this league. It's not the same.

2153
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:26,600
Speaker 1: So it's not my fault that I benefited from the

2154
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:28,600
Speaker 1: money going up and I came in the error. And

2155
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 1: that's when my mom birth need to come up in

2156
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 1: this error that you know I've made more money than you,

2157
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Or you know, Charles Barkley

2158
01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:41,200
Speaker 1: is kind of like a lot of these fans like

2159
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:44,519
Speaker 1: he scored more points than me. Alright, cool, you know

2160
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But I don't necessarily mean you have

2161
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 1: more impact on the game than me, And so you know,

2162
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 1: I can I can come. You know, I feel like

2163
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:55,879
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of jealousy involved, and for me personally,

2164
01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:57,760
Speaker 1: I just hope to never be that guy. You know,

2165
01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 1: I'm saying that someone who may do TV or you know,

2166
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 1: after I'm done playing, Like, I just don't never want

2167
01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:07,559
Speaker 1: to be that guy. Like I'm always the guy trying

2168
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 1: to look out for the young guy strow, the young

2169
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 1: guy ball. Like I'm like, yeah, speak the truth on basketball.

2170
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:15,320
Speaker 1: All you don't say, speak the facts. But I think

2171
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 1: we all knowing it's no secret that Charles Barkley don't

2172
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 1: study basketball. Like Charles Barkley get up there and talk

2173
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:23,720
Speaker 1: out the side of his neck. You know what I'm saying.

2174
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:28,439
Speaker 1: I don't have an issue with somebody critiquing my game

2175
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:32,120
Speaker 1: like a fucking athlete. Like, of course somebody on critique

2176
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:34,160
Speaker 1: my critique by game all you want, because guess what,

2177
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:36,880
Speaker 1: as I got flaws in my game and my job

2178
01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 1: my profession, so does everybody else in there critique my game?

2179
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 1: But he liked to throw shots and ship, and it's like, bro,

2180
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:48,559
Speaker 1: the jealousy gotta stop. Like I'm a young black man

2181
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 1: that came up after you. You essentially paved the way.

2182
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:55,519
Speaker 1: Appreciate the way that you've paid to stop sucking hate,

2183
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:57,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's kind of my

2184
01:48:57,800 --> 01:48:59,360
Speaker 1: thing with Charles Barkley. You know what I'm saying, it

2185
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 1: ain't be because if it was beef. I've seen Charles

2186
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 1: Barkley a million times like he never you know what

2187
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying, But you just sit up there talking out

2188
01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 1: the side of your net. You know what I'm saying.

2189
01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 1: It was kind of similar to like I mean, it's

2190
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 1: not similar from a jealousy standpoint of like money because

2191
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:20,160
Speaker 1: we know it ain't that, or like fame or championships

2192
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 1: because you know it ain't that. But it was like

2193
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,680
Speaker 1: shock with JaVale McGee when he kept making fun of him,

2194
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:27,000
Speaker 1: and Javelle kind of came out and was like, yo,

2195
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:30,040
Speaker 1: like you're affecting my career. I respect the funk out

2196
01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:34,080
Speaker 1: of shot. He pulled back because he's like, damn all right, respect,

2197
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:36,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I respect that, and

2198
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:38,320
Speaker 1: I just you know. That's why I got a lot

2199
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 1: of respect for y'all and a lot of respect Steve Smith,

2200
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 1: like some of the older guys shot God show love man.

2201
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 1: Like we all young black men who most of us

2202
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:52,680
Speaker 1: that made it out the hood to make millions of

2203
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 1: dollars to be able to provide for our family, to

2204
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 1: be able to provide for others, you know, through donations

2205
01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 1: and smiles that you put on on other people's faces.

2206
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, you got another black man who's paved the

2207
01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 1: way essentially just fucking hate. Like I hate trying to

2208
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:10,599
Speaker 1: trying to make you, trying to make you the butter

2209
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:12,720
Speaker 1: his jokes all the time. Yea, Like I hate when

2210
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:15,560
Speaker 1: older guys who's been through and start sucking hating like this.

2211
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:18,680
Speaker 1: You know, we all talked about their fraternity and this

2212
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 1: brotherhood that the NBA is, But yeah, we'll get up

2213
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:24,439
Speaker 1: there and like ship on each other and like, like

2214
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:26,280
Speaker 1: you said, trying to make the butt of the joke.

2215
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:28,920
Speaker 1: If you're critiquing basketball, man, do what you gotta do.

2216
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 1: I respect that, you know what I'm saying. You gotta

2217
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 1: say somebody fucking sucks, say that. You know what I'm saying. Like,

2218
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 1: there's a way of critiquing basketball and not trying to

2219
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:40,120
Speaker 1: shoot on someone, and he just always trying to ship

2220
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:44,280
Speaker 1: like he's he's he. We deal without enough from the

2221
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:47,400
Speaker 1: media in general, exactly deal with that from one of

2222
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 1: your own, you know what I'm saying. So it just

2223
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:52,680
Speaker 1: bothers me that, like from one of your own, you

2224
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:54,600
Speaker 1: have to deal with the same bullshit that you have

2225
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:56,960
Speaker 1: to deal with from a lot of people. When you, hey, bro,

2226
01:50:57,080 --> 01:50:59,000
Speaker 1: you was that same guy that they did the same

2227
01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 1: ship too. You should understand it differently. But yet you

2228
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:03,599
Speaker 1: get up there and hate and talk out the side

2229
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 1: of your fucking net. I just don't respect that, and

2230
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 1: so it's no beef. I just don't have I don't

2231
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 1: have respect for that because we're one and the same.

2232
01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:14,640
Speaker 1: And yet you get up there, fucking Hayden like that,

2233
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 1: like bro, show love give back to the guy who

2234
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 1: came after you. Pete Myers told me my first second

2235
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:23,559
Speaker 1: year in the league, my assistant coach, he said, Draymond,

2236
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:26,160
Speaker 1: your job is to get paid for the next young

2237
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:28,160
Speaker 1: dude to get paid, you know what I'm saying. So

2238
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:31,760
Speaker 1: I embody that and I I just don't respect the

2239
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 1: fucking Hayden that he does. And like trying to show guys.

2240
01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:37,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, you had your time. It was great.

2241
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 1: As a basketball player. I appreciate you. I watched you

2242
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, Like, I appreciate you as

2243
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:45,840
Speaker 1: a basketball player, but as a fucking hater, I just

2244
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:48,720
Speaker 1: got no respect for that. That was the one the

2245
01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:50,800
Speaker 1: one way I think you hit it on the head perfect.

2246
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 1: The way I always looked at it from the beginning

2247
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 1: was we we gotta take enough of this ship from

2248
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 1: motherfucking fans that don't know ship and then media who's

2249
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 1: never played to understand what it takes every day, day

2250
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 1: and day out, off season, regular season, what it takes

2251
01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:06,360
Speaker 1: to be in this position. Although yes he was a

2252
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:09,600
Speaker 1: great but for for me to see any kind of

2253
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:12,160
Speaker 1: older player. You may think it, you may this, but

2254
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:15,440
Speaker 1: just to get on TV and blatantly just be disrespectful,

2255
01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:18,360
Speaker 1: that's where you lost me. Because Charles is supposed to

2256
01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 1: know like what this motherfucking grind is about and how

2257
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:22,559
Speaker 1: much outside bullshit we have to take so to get

2258
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 1: it from one of our own is you can miss

2259
01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:27,680
Speaker 1: me with that ship. That that that's that's what I

2260
01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:31,160
Speaker 1: don't agree with absolutely. I think if you you could

2261
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 1: probably put put somebody can put a compilation together of

2262
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:37,680
Speaker 1: all the ship that Charles Barkley has said about me

2263
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:40,880
Speaker 1: since I started to come up, and I guarantee you

2264
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:43,720
Speaker 1: you play that ship. It's just hate. Like it's not

2265
01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:47,840
Speaker 1: like it's not critiquing fucking basketball. God, I don't even

2266
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:51,240
Speaker 1: watch the games, like it's just fucking hate. But you

2267
01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:53,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that it is what it is like,

2268
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 1: it ain't you know, it ain't no love lost on

2269
01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 1: myn Like, I respect you as a basketball player, but

2270
01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:02,479
Speaker 1: I can't respect you as a as a as a

2271
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 1: as a black trailblazer. You know what I'm so, I can't.

2272
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 1: I can't respect you as that because I watch you

2273
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:10,960
Speaker 1: constantly hate on young black men that came after you

2274
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:14,719
Speaker 1: and it's not you know, and and a lot on myself.

2275
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:17,640
Speaker 1: And I feel like he got the same problem with

2276
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 1: me that a lot of people in the world has.

2277
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 1: It's like, how the fund has he made so much money?

2278
01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:23,720
Speaker 1: How the fund has he been all Star? How the

2279
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:26,559
Speaker 1: fund is he have this much success and he don't

2280
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:33,680
Speaker 1: score points? Well, hey, that's what it did. Well, look,

2281
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:35,760
Speaker 1: we we did. We We were only raised that that

2282
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:39,639
Speaker 1: crucify each other when we're not even guilty for Ship.

2283
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:42,479
Speaker 1: Like one thing I like what love about our showing men, Matt,

2284
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 1: and we thank for to have guests like you. I

2285
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:47,600
Speaker 1: ain't was never to bring people on our show to

2286
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:49,920
Speaker 1: demean them to make us look good. You know what

2287
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We were We are players that didn't have

2288
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 1: that outlet when we were playing to speak our minds

2289
01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:56,840
Speaker 1: when people was bashing us in the media and making

2290
01:53:56,920 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 1: us look like something we wasn't. So so I hate.

2291
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:03,680
Speaker 1: I hate when brothers, especially, I feel like they got

2292
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:06,439
Speaker 1: to demean somebody else to make themselves look good. But really,

2293
01:54:06,479 --> 01:54:08,800
Speaker 1: to the real ones, you look like ship, you know

2294
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And as players, a lot of players

2295
01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:13,599
Speaker 1: go through that. And I'm glad we have the platform

2296
01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:15,559
Speaker 1: so you can come over here and speak this real

2297
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:19,720
Speaker 1: and people can really see how you look at situations. Absolutely, man,

2298
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate this platform because y'all know we we we

2299
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:25,840
Speaker 1: need ship like this, you know what I'm saying, We

2300
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:29,600
Speaker 1: don't quite get this often, and you know, like this

2301
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:34,160
Speaker 1: platform uninterrupted With that, Mibra, Carter and Lebron started, we

2302
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:35,960
Speaker 1: get to tell our story, you know what I'm saying,

2303
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:37,960
Speaker 1: that we get the control the narrative. So many times

2304
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:41,280
Speaker 1: we stuck were telling the story and we answering one question,

2305
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 1: and what's written is something, what's written is of course,

2306
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to to take the answer to a completely

2307
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,520
Speaker 1: different question and put it on the answer to they one,

2308
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 1: and then it's not necessarily our words, you know what

2309
01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I appreciate you all for understanding that

2310
01:54:56,120 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 1: we need this. You know, that was our goal when

2311
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 1: we talked about this, you know, because obviously I think

2312
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:02,160
Speaker 1: there was a misconception of who me and Jack was.

2313
01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:04,400
Speaker 1: Jack was abled at THUB because he helped his teammate.

2314
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:06,560
Speaker 1: He also got a couple shootouts and did a couple

2315
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 1: of other things, but he was able to I gotta

2316
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:12,840
Speaker 1: lab it for doing what I did on the court

2317
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:14,640
Speaker 1: and off the court or whatever. But it was such

2318
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 1: a misconception who we were. So I've loved all of

2319
01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:19,280
Speaker 1: our interviews, but there's certain interviews such as this one

2320
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:21,720
Speaker 1: for you to be able to speak your truth because

2321
01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:24,480
Speaker 1: I know you well. You know, we talked, and like

2322
01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:26,400
Speaker 1: I said, I see a lot of me and Jack

2323
01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:28,520
Speaker 1: and you and vice versa. So for you to be

2324
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 1: out there, come out here and tell your truth and

2325
01:55:31,040 --> 01:55:33,640
Speaker 1: and and and humanize yourself to a standard to this show.

2326
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:37,760
Speaker 1: You you carry yourself, although you were three time champion

2327
01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 1: all start, you carry yourself like a regular man. You like.

2328
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:42,600
Speaker 1: You don't think you're no better than no one else.

2329
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 1: You just you. You're a good person, you know, so

2330
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:48,160
Speaker 1: to me, I I I take it too hard because

2331
01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:49,840
Speaker 1: when I hear people talking about my friends, I'm ready

2332
01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:51,320
Speaker 1: to fight for him, just like everyone else in this

2333
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:53,840
Speaker 1: chat is. But I think there's such a misconception of

2334
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:56,360
Speaker 1: who Draymond Green really is. And I'm glad that you

2335
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 1: took the time with us to kind of tell your

2336
01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 1: side because too often, like you said, you're not someone

2337
01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:03,360
Speaker 1: that really gives a funk if everyone else knows. But

2338
01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:05,080
Speaker 1: it's good for everyone else to know what kind of

2339
01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:07,400
Speaker 1: person you are, because I think there is a misconception

2340
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 1: of who you are. Absolutely, no doubt, no doubt. I

2341
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 1: appreciate that, man, you know. It's like you said, I

2342
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:16,480
Speaker 1: don't say it often, you know, but it do feel

2343
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 1: good to you know, get that off my chest, are

2344
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 1: a certain off my chest a little bit. I kind

2345
01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:23,640
Speaker 1: of just internalized everything, you know what I'm saying, like

2346
01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:26,000
Speaker 1: I'll be cool, it is what it is. But you

2347
01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:29,120
Speaker 1: know that that that is a good show. Yeah, alright,

2348
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:31,200
Speaker 1: we're coming down to quick hitters. But one quick before

2349
01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 1: we hit our quick hitters, talk to us about de

2350
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:37,480
Speaker 1: Marcus Cousins, someone you battled against, someone I played, you know,

2351
01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:41,640
Speaker 1: great dude, another misunderstood person. For him to be able

2352
01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:43,879
Speaker 1: to come to you guys, off a fucked up injury,

2353
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 1: all the ship he went through to try to bring

2354
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:49,800
Speaker 1: himself back on the court, for them to not win

2355
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:52,200
Speaker 1: the championship, him to move on and get hurt again.

2356
01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:54,520
Speaker 1: Talk to us what that relationship was like with him

2357
01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 1: and how you saw his up and down roller coaster go.

2358
01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:01,320
Speaker 1: We've got are always had a pretty good relationship. We

2359
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 1: play against each other, we get into it, you know,

2360
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:07,600
Speaker 1: every time, and it was always love, you know what

2361
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying, But there was always a mutual respect. And

2362
01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:12,840
Speaker 1: then we played in the in the Olymprites together in

2363
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:16,560
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen, and we both didn't even bigger bond. Uh.

2364
01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:20,320
Speaker 1: Then the opportunity came where you know, things weren't going away.

2365
01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:22,800
Speaker 1: He's playing and we had the opportunity to get him,

2366
01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:24,520
Speaker 1: and Bob Myers called me, I think I was a

2367
01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:27,920
Speaker 1: center in Greece, and uh, having dinner and I'm like, yeo,

2368
01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 1: I gotta take this call. And he's like, yo, we

2369
01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:31,560
Speaker 1: can get to market. He's like Draymond. He's he's like

2370
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:34,600
Speaker 1: out of broth, Like Draymond, You'll never believe what's going

2371
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 1: on back here. But we could get to Marcus Cousins.

2372
01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, Bob, what like? He's like, we could get

2373
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:42,200
Speaker 1: to Marcus Cousins. Like what you want? I'm like hell yeah.

2374
01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:45,840
Speaker 1: Like he's like, all right, Well, he thinks you and

2375
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:47,840
Speaker 1: Kevin may not like him because of him and Kevin

2376
01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:49,480
Speaker 1: getting into it this year, so you may have to

2377
01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:53,440
Speaker 1: call him. Let me know. So hour ago by he

2378
01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:55,280
Speaker 1: like I need to call him. I calling like, yo,

2379
01:57:55,360 --> 01:57:58,600
Speaker 1: what's up, Let's do it? And you know, and he

2380
01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:02,800
Speaker 1: ended up coming here. Uh. De Markets is one of

2381
01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:08,080
Speaker 1: those people who is extremely misunderstood. You know what I'm

2382
01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:12,160
Speaker 1: saying here a big kid here, a big kid and

2383
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:16,040
Speaker 1: and for for lack of a better turn, and I

2384
01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:20,000
Speaker 1: mean absolutely no disrespect by it. He's a big teddy

2385
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:24,280
Speaker 1: man all people here, gonna take care of people. He's

2386
01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:29,440
Speaker 1: gonna do like right by everybody. Like he's a great person. Man.

2387
01:58:29,680 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 1: He's so misunderstood because once again, how he played a

2388
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:36,280
Speaker 1: game of basketball, how he did his job, how he

2389
01:58:36,440 --> 01:58:39,600
Speaker 1: do what he loved. He wears emotions on his sleeve

2390
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 1: and where it sometimes ball over, like people judge him

2391
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:44,480
Speaker 1: and try to make him out to be this bad

2392
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:47,600
Speaker 1: person and create their own there. De Markets is a

2393
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 1: great person man, a great player, and honestly, you know what,

2394
01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:54,840
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see him get back to where

2395
01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:57,680
Speaker 1: he was, you know what I'm saying, because he for

2396
01:58:57,800 --> 01:59:00,880
Speaker 1: a long time and still to this day, because that

2397
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:03,040
Speaker 1: don't talent don't change. It's one of the most talent

2398
01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:06,760
Speaker 1: to players in the NBA, Like I mean, fucking great,

2399
01:59:07,160 --> 01:59:12,320
Speaker 1: great talent, and it's completely misunderstood and and really a

2400
01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:15,840
Speaker 1: part of a huge part of misunderstanding is people are

2401
01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 1: fucking fearious, fearful, Like there's some scary eyes people in

2402
01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 1: this world, and they're fucking afraid of him. So as

2403
01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:27,800
Speaker 1: opposed to getting to know him, they put their hands up,

2404
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:31,320
Speaker 1: they're fearful, and then they create this narrative of who

2405
01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:34,000
Speaker 1: they want him to be as opposed to really getting

2406
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:36,560
Speaker 1: to know him, the person taking the time. I mean,

2407
01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:39,600
Speaker 1: even you look at years in Sacramento, a bunch of

2408
01:59:39,640 --> 01:59:41,960
Speaker 1: different coaches, the one coach that got to know him

2409
01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 1: was Mike Malone, and guess what they were all they

2410
01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:48,760
Speaker 1: went to the playoffs and Mike Malone got fired, you

2411
01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:52,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like people are so

2412
01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:58,000
Speaker 1: fucking afraid of people that and of these narratives that's

2413
01:59:58,000 --> 02:00:01,800
Speaker 1: already been painted that they then just throwing people right

2414
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:03,920
Speaker 1: in the box that everyone else is trying to throw

2415
02:00:04,000 --> 02:00:06,600
Speaker 1: him into as opposed to getting to know him, Like

2416
02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:09,640
Speaker 1: is he competitive as hell? Yes? Does his emotions get

2417
02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:12,240
Speaker 1: the best of him that time? Yes, So there's a

2418
02:00:12,360 --> 02:00:14,640
Speaker 1: lot of the rest of us, you know, but all

2419
02:00:14,720 --> 02:00:17,880
Speaker 1: of us and for for everybody else is just not

2420
02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:19,880
Speaker 1: seen in front of millions of people, right, Like, so

2421
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:22,680
Speaker 1: your emotions get to still over and the comfort of

2422
02:00:22,720 --> 02:00:26,240
Speaker 1: your own home or the world office by yourself with

2423
02:00:26,400 --> 02:00:28,080
Speaker 1: the door closed, you know what I'm saying. Here's just

2424
02:00:28,200 --> 02:00:30,720
Speaker 1: happened to be in front of millions of people on

2425
02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:33,280
Speaker 1: this stage where everybody is writing about it and creating

2426
02:00:33,320 --> 02:00:36,560
Speaker 1: these narratives. But it's bullshit, you know what I'm saying.

2427
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:40,640
Speaker 1: He's one of the best people I know, and they

2428
02:00:40,720 --> 02:00:44,240
Speaker 1: can create whatever narratives they want about him in basketball.

2429
02:00:44,840 --> 02:00:47,480
Speaker 1: I'm rolling with it because he's a good person and

2430
02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:50,440
Speaker 1: it's very hard in this world today to find good people.

2431
02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:55,440
Speaker 1: M hm, beautifully said, Man beautifully said, all right, last

2432
02:00:55,480 --> 02:00:58,080
Speaker 1: Porsche right here, Man are quick hitter questions. We're gonna

2433
02:00:58,080 --> 02:01:00,280
Speaker 1: ask you questions back and forth. You just ask for him,

2434
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:02,600
Speaker 1: and we're gonna wrap this motherfucker interview up. It has

2435
02:01:02,640 --> 02:01:04,280
Speaker 1: been an amazing interview, man, So thank you for all

2436
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:06,160
Speaker 1: the time. This is probably one of our longer interviews. Man,

2437
02:01:06,240 --> 02:01:12,360
Speaker 1: but you've kept us entertained, so appreciate. I need to

2438
02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:14,640
Speaker 1: light of joint right now. My high, My high is gone.

2439
02:01:17,080 --> 02:01:18,920
Speaker 1: But speaking of that real quick, before you get quick,

2440
02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:25,040
Speaker 1: what is your what is your position on cannabis in sports? Oh?

2441
02:01:25,240 --> 02:01:27,280
Speaker 1: I think you know when you start to really do

2442
02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:32,040
Speaker 1: the you know, do the research and you know, looking

2443
02:01:32,120 --> 02:01:34,120
Speaker 1: on things like the one thing I do know is

2444
02:01:34,160 --> 02:01:36,160
Speaker 1: all these pain killers that they give us to get

2445
02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:40,280
Speaker 1: the season. That ain't it? It ain't it? Like you know,

2446
02:01:40,360 --> 02:01:45,720
Speaker 1: they give us all these anti inflammatories and there there's

2447
02:01:46,120 --> 02:01:48,800
Speaker 1: people get tore it all shot. If there's a shot

2448
02:01:49,600 --> 02:01:53,120
Speaker 1: that can make you feel nothing for six to eight

2449
02:01:56,520 --> 02:02:00,080
Speaker 1: up and they're playing the whole game and not feel it.

2450
02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:03,560
Speaker 1: And by the way, after that motherfucker. We're off. You

2451
02:02:03,640 --> 02:02:07,200
Speaker 1: feel like you got hit by a truck. Addicted, you addicted,

2452
02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:11,200
Speaker 1: you addicted. They can't be good for me, you know

2453
02:02:11,240 --> 02:02:13,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you know, I look at it

2454
02:02:13,640 --> 02:02:18,520
Speaker 1: like like, after all the research that's been done, it's

2455
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:21,880
Speaker 1: it's now legalized, and I don't know, maybe over half

2456
02:02:21,960 --> 02:02:25,720
Speaker 1: the states. I don't know the numbers. I don't study it,

2457
02:02:25,920 --> 02:02:29,080
Speaker 1: you know, but if you're if you're going to continue

2458
02:02:29,080 --> 02:02:34,760
Speaker 1: to give guy's towards shots and anti inflammatories, like something

2459
02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:38,200
Speaker 1: gotta give because it has not proven to be as

2460
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:40,240
Speaker 1: bad as that, And that is one thing I know

2461
02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:43,480
Speaker 1: for sure that hasn't improven to have the same side

2462
02:02:43,480 --> 02:02:49,240
Speaker 1: effects that that should have. So you know, you're pro

2463
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:52,520
Speaker 1: they tell you know, they talk about you get too

2464
02:02:52,600 --> 02:02:56,360
Speaker 1: many toward offs. Shots said start to affect your kidneys

2465
02:02:56,360 --> 02:03:00,840
Speaker 1: and your living life. Well, it hasn't proven to do that,

2466
02:03:01,200 --> 02:03:05,160
Speaker 1: So I don't, uh, you know, I think you know

2467
02:03:05,240 --> 02:03:07,080
Speaker 1: a lot of and and a lot of rules we go,

2468
02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, we go by our old and outdated and

2469
02:03:10,920 --> 02:03:15,320
Speaker 1: a lot of people be afraid to be except to

2470
02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:18,720
Speaker 1: change that or to even accept the change. And uh,

2471
02:03:19,200 --> 02:03:20,920
Speaker 1: you know, when when we look at our league as

2472
02:03:20,960 --> 02:03:23,600
Speaker 1: a whole um. And I know they're having the conversations.

2473
02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:29,400
Speaker 1: And I've seen Adam talking about it publicly. M I've

2474
02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:43,360
Speaker 1: seen as beautiful Una say Hi, what's up guy? Okay,

2475
02:03:43,480 --> 02:03:48,360
Speaker 1: let me finish. Baby. You know you look at Adam Silver. Uh.

2476
02:03:48,600 --> 02:03:51,160
Speaker 1: You know Adam is a trouble place. Uh. He ain't

2477
02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:54,000
Speaker 1: afraid to make a decision. He ain't afraid to get

2478
02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:56,680
Speaker 1: out of in front of things. I wouldn't be shocked

2479
02:03:56,720 --> 02:03:59,240
Speaker 1: if that's the next thing coming soon. I love it

2480
02:03:59,480 --> 02:04:02,840
Speaker 1: hopefully like quick hitters, real quick. Who should be our

2481
02:04:02,920 --> 02:04:07,080
Speaker 1: next guest on All the Smoke? Next guests on All

2482
02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:14,280
Speaker 1: the Smoke? Jay Z? Oh, nice artist, artists, we might

2483
02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:16,400
Speaker 1: need your help, might need you. We might need your help.

2484
02:04:16,440 --> 02:04:18,480
Speaker 1: If you got a line on him, we might need you. Yeah,

2485
02:04:21,760 --> 02:04:24,280
Speaker 1: I got a line. I got somebody with a line

2486
02:04:24,360 --> 02:04:28,000
Speaker 1: to him. But I think that great man chopping up

2487
02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:30,840
Speaker 1: with jay Z and about a month ago, a month

2488
02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:33,720
Speaker 1: and a half, two months ago now at his very

2489
02:04:33,920 --> 02:04:38,320
Speaker 1: fair party. Man. I always respected jay Z, but just

2490
02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:42,440
Speaker 1: his mindset man as a black man, black billionaire Yo,

2491
02:04:43,160 --> 02:04:45,720
Speaker 1: jay Z, for sure, I got the utmost respect for

2492
02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:51,240
Speaker 1: that man. Good call artists, A song gonna repeat artists

2493
02:04:51,320 --> 02:04:54,560
Speaker 1: a song gonna repeat. Oh man, I gotta go with

2494
02:04:54,680 --> 02:05:00,840
Speaker 1: Drake tise slide right now there everybody trying to get

2495
02:05:00,880 --> 02:05:02,720
Speaker 1: it down before I got before I put it on

2496
02:05:02,840 --> 02:05:06,240
Speaker 1: TikTok man, that's the guy's gonna be my debut, man, Man,

2497
02:05:06,360 --> 02:05:12,480
Speaker 1: Drake is a genius. Man, he's definitely changing genius. And

2498
02:05:12,520 --> 02:05:14,360
Speaker 1: you guys just friendship. You guys have a crazy back

2499
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:17,240
Speaker 1: and for a friendship. But that's for another time. What

2500
02:05:17,320 --> 02:05:22,280
Speaker 1: are you currently binge watching. I'm currently binge watching Ozark

2501
02:05:22,880 --> 02:05:27,280
Speaker 1: and All American. I'm binge watching both both. Yance went

2502
02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:30,080
Speaker 1: ahead and watched All American without me, so I'm catching

2503
02:05:30,200 --> 02:05:33,960
Speaker 1: up on that and we're watching Ozark together. They both right.

2504
02:05:34,200 --> 02:05:39,440
Speaker 1: All American is dope, super dope. Yeah, oz are because

2505
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Speaker 1: that ship, it starts a little slow, and it losing

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Speaker 1: some people, and I'm telling you, like, get them in

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02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:45,800
Speaker 1: first handful of episodes once that ship get rolling. Manah,

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Speaker 1: it's good. I'm I'm in the middle of the season

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Speaker 1: two and that oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. I

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Speaker 1: just finished season three like last week. You're gonna love it. Yeah, yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: you gotta. I can't even see my screen. My favorite

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Speaker 1: Quarantine snack. What do you? What do you? What's your

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Speaker 1: quarantine snack? What you go to? My favorite quarantine snack,

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Speaker 1: which I'm actually giving up today because they're killing me.

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Speaker 1: It's how cheatose man, Bro. I wish I could eat him. Bro.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting older. I get I gotta get away from

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Speaker 1: spicy foods. But that's one thing I hated giving away

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Speaker 1: with spicy cheetos back. And they're killing me though, so

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Speaker 1: I got I'm giving them up today. Man, I'm having

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Speaker 1: my last back today, my last back today before we

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Speaker 1: get out of your man. We officely has lost someone

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Speaker 1: in our community. Condolences the car Anthony Town's mom, who

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Speaker 1: unfortunately passed away from COVID nineteen yesterday. Very unfortunate. Our

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Speaker 1: hearts and prayers go out to him and his family

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Speaker 1: and his close ones. Crazy and then obviously your sweatshirt man,

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Speaker 1: Rest in peace to our God Cob. And it was

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Speaker 1: Boots and that helicopter crash. Man. It just shows. I

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Speaker 1: think this quarantine has showed, excuse me, this pandemic is showed.

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Speaker 1: And just two thousand twenties hard. I wish we could

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02:07:08,440 --> 02:07:10,720
Speaker 1: throw this motherfucking year away because it's been horrible, but

2531
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:13,000
Speaker 1: it just shows man, life is short and appreciate this ship.

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Speaker 1: And I think this quarantine and being with your family

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02:07:16,240 --> 02:07:18,320
Speaker 1: is allowing people, like we said earlier, to step off

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Speaker 1: the hands for with man. Smell the roses, look at

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Speaker 1: the sunset, enjoy the beauty and the essence of this

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Speaker 1: life we have because we've been shown it. Any time, man,

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Speaker 1: ship can change. Absolutely definitely, Peter Code and g G

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Speaker 1: and everyone else involved in that crash, I don't I

2539
02:07:35,400 --> 02:07:38,960
Speaker 1: don't think none of us has recovered from that yet.

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Speaker 1: And then my heart goes out to call towns man

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Speaker 1: as someone who you know as as a basketball player.

2542
02:07:46,880 --> 02:07:49,480
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us has used basketball in

2543
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Speaker 1: our lives as an escape, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So to not only lose his mother, but to not

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Speaker 1: even have what's the natural escape for him available to him, man,

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Speaker 1: my heart, Yeah, man, his family. Man, It's it's a

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Speaker 1: tough time, man. And I mean, you figured look at it.

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Speaker 1: That's two things that is dear near and dear to

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Speaker 1: his heart that's been taken away from him in the

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Speaker 1: last month. Man, some my heart definitely goes out to him. Yeah. Absolutely, man.

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Speaker 1: Well fuck, that's a rap great episode, um, Jack Good job, Draymond,

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Speaker 1: thank you for thanks. We appreciate you, man. That's a

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Speaker 1: wrap special quarantine editional with NBA Champion and Defensive Player

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Speaker 1: of the Year Draymond Green. Um. You can catch this

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Speaker 1: on Showtime Basketball, YouTube or all platforms, dreaming podcasts, all

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Speaker 1: of them shout out. D appreciate you, bro, appreciate you,

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Speaker 1: b Thank you. This life is all I ever wanted.

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Speaker 1: I'm not leaving, not yet. I was hoping you say

2559
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Speaker 1: that we gotta hit the streets, make some money. People

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Speaker 1: like us les destroy, people like nt gockle up. Get

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Speaker 1: Showtime free at showtime dot com.