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Speaker 4: Second Date Update. All right, let's do a hypothetical here.
Speaker 2: I always love those, and Brooke, we're gonna.
Speaker 4: Pretend that you're single, okay, singing you. I know she's
Speaker 4: faked up.
Speaker 2: No, I love my husband.
Speaker 4: But let's say for a long time you're hanging out
Speaker 4: at the bar, you're the same age that you are
Speaker 4: right now. I don't want to say it out Loud's
Speaker 4: just just keep that in mind. But again, you're single
Speaker 4: and you see a cute guy cross the room, very attractive.
Speaker 4: Do you approach him or do you try to get
Speaker 4: him to notice you so that he walks over.
Speaker 1: I've never had any tact, so I would definitely approach him.
Speaker 4: And what do you do? What do you do?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe buy him a drink extra?
Speaker 3: You're just like Hi and Brooke. I think you're cute
Speaker 3: and dreams.
Speaker 4: You flash a bunch of money in his face and
Speaker 4: try to win him over like that.
Speaker 1: I've told many guys at bars when I was single,
Speaker 1: you're hot.
Speaker 3: We love that.
Speaker 4: We would girls will finally tell you.
Speaker 2: I told you I don't have much shame or anything.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 1: Well, no, not really, but it works because I'm telling
Speaker 1: you it works.
Speaker 4: I do think you forgot I said, you're still your
Speaker 4: same age as now, but I'm gonna let you get
Speaker 4: away with that one.
Speaker 1: So I still say that.
Speaker 4: Desperate at my age. But I bring it up because
Speaker 4: one of our listeners says that he got approached by
Speaker 4: not just one, but two different women, and he thinks
Speaker 4: he knows the secret on how that happened. Okay, so
Speaker 4: let's talk to him. Tony. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5: Hi, how are you guys doing?
Speaker 2: Were two twins at the bar? Is that what.
Speaker 4: She means lookalikes? Not the other classic she's accident, I know,
Speaker 4: apologized for brook, but I know you went on a
Speaker 4: date recently. Who is it with?
Speaker 5: Her name is Jemma. We actually met on a dating APPE.
Speaker 2: Said, somebody you at the bar? You met it on
Speaker 2: a dating map.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I know. Sorry, that might have been a
Speaker 5: little confusing. So we went to this Mexican spot and
Speaker 5: they have these like giant long shared table things.
Speaker 2: Like community seating.
Speaker 5: Yeah exactly. We're like sitting with different parties and stuff
Speaker 5: like that, and it's kind of social, you know, people
Speaker 5: are talking to each other and interacting. But I thought
Speaker 5: that I was being pretty clear to the rest of
Speaker 5: the restaurant that me and jem are are not brother
Speaker 5: and sister. We were there on a date together.
Speaker 4: How do you be clear about that? Like T shirts matching?
Speaker 3: Do you guys look alike?
Speaker 5: Uh No, I don't think so. But it was more
Speaker 5: like the way we got treated, I guess because we
Speaker 5: were I mean, we were flirting, we were doing the
Speaker 5: whole date thing, and the two girls were kind of
Speaker 5: across from us, and like I said, it was a
Speaker 5: social thing. And Jemmy at one point got up and
Speaker 5: she went to the bathroom and during that time, and
Speaker 5: these two girls came over and sat on either side
Speaker 5: of me and just kind of inserted themselves into the situation.
Speaker 2: Asking about your date.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, I could see like two girls that
Speaker 1: are out together. They're like, oh, look at there on
Speaker 1: a first date. Let's go mess, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: She thinks it's going bad.
Speaker 5: Like I don't know, I don't know what it was.
Speaker 5: But when Jemma came back to the table, she kind
Speaker 5: of sat not in the seat that they were in,
Speaker 5: but a little away from me, like across from me. Almost.
Speaker 1: The women were still there when she came back from
Speaker 1: the bathroom.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they stayed there and they were basically just paying
Speaker 5: attention to me. They were like laughing at jokes that
Speaker 5: I was trying to say and stuff like that. So
Speaker 5: it was weird.
Speaker 3: Is it that maybe she saw that they like and.
Speaker 1: It's nothing if they're like making it a joke, right,
Speaker 1: and they're including her, and it feels like a group thing.
Speaker 1: But this sounds like she was really left out out.
Speaker 5: It probably hurt. Yeah, but I was trying to do
Speaker 5: everything I could to show her non verbally that I
Speaker 5: am not interested in them. I mean, I'm trying to
Speaker 5: play foot you with her. I'm trying to engage with
Speaker 5: her and let her know, like, hey, I didn't have
Speaker 5: these girls to come over here. They just did it
Speaker 5: on their own. It's got nothing to do with me.
Speaker 4: You didn't move And one time I pretended to fall
Speaker 4: asleep during a date to get the message across that
Speaker 4: I wasn't interesting. I kissed one of them. What do
Speaker 4: you like in your mind? What do you think was
Speaker 4: happening there?
Speaker 5: I kind of And I told her this too. I
Speaker 5: think the only reason that they were even interested in
Speaker 5: me to begin with was because I was out with
Speaker 5: a really attractive girl. And that's the only time that
Speaker 5: that ever happened to me.
Speaker 2: Did Emma like that reason?
Speaker 5: Not at all?
Speaker 2: Were you able to salvage the date at all?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 2: How long were they there?
Speaker 5: They were there for the rest of the date, but
Speaker 5: we didn't stay much longer. We uh awkwardly left and
Speaker 5: she wasn't really talking to me at the end and uh,
Speaker 5: no kiss or anything like that, was just kind of
Speaker 5: hugged and uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you bring it up with Jemma though about like,
Speaker 4: sorry about those two girls, Like I wasn't interested.
Speaker 1: He told her the whole reason he thought they were
Speaker 1: doing that after the date are.
Speaker 5: During Yeah, well, the girls were right there, so it
Speaker 5: was hard for me to address it at the table.
Speaker 5: I just waited till we were in the car and
Speaker 5: I apologized for their behavior and said, look, I had
Speaker 5: nothing to do with me. I'm sorry. It was weird.
Speaker 2: What did she say?
Speaker 5: She said she understood, but there wasn't much after that.
Speaker 1: Okay, ye dang, dude, what do you wish you would
Speaker 1: have done differently?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 5: It was a weird social situation, So I mean, I
Speaker 5: guess I should have asked for a private table, but
Speaker 5: that was kind of the whole experience of the spot
Speaker 5: was to do that with other people.
Speaker 3: Weird. I I wonder where her side is.
Speaker 4: Yell, we'll get that from her when we reach out
Speaker 4: to her. But at least next time, probably need to
Speaker 4: avoid the shared long tables.
Speaker 1: You're just accepting attention from other women.
Speaker 2: Women is probably what you need to avoid.
Speaker 4: When you're with a girl Kerr Brother Chicks, we learned
Speaker 4: and hopefully we'll get some answers when we reach out
Speaker 4: to Gemma for you and come back. Try to get
Speaker 4: your second date update. Right after this second date update,
Speaker 4: one of our listeners, Tony, went out on a one
Speaker 4: on one date that suddenly turned into a three on
Speaker 4: one date boy, and the person who got excluded was Jemma,
Speaker 4: the woman that he actually came to the restaurant with,
Speaker 4: because two random girls got up and sat down right
Speaker 4: next to Tony as soon as Gemma went off to
Speaker 4: the bathroom, so when she came back to the table,
Speaker 4: she was forced to sit across from everybody else and
Speaker 4: the whole rest of the night was kind of awkward.
Speaker 2: From there, he tried to play foot seaes.
Speaker 4: Just show Jemma that I'm actually interested in you. I
Speaker 4: don't really care about these two new girls, so she
Speaker 4: was gone out of reach.
Speaker 6: I think she was.
Speaker 7: It's probably just a table leg and Tony's thoughts on
Speaker 7: why this happened was actually pretty flattering towards Gemma, saying
Speaker 7: that she was so attractive that these other ladies must
Speaker 7: have been paying him attention, thinking, oh wow, this guy's
Speaker 7: with this gorgeous woman.
Speaker 4: He must have something pretty special, either downstairs or upstairs,
Speaker 4: who knows. At least that's Tony's thoughts on the situation.
Speaker 4: We need to get Jemma's thoughts and see if we
Speaker 4: can recover.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how are you feeling, Tony?
Speaker 5: A little nervous, but I get I kind of am
Speaker 5: knowing what to expect, I think.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's how you're feeling upstairs. How you're feeling downstairs?
Speaker 7: Okay, nerves going everywhere?
Speaker 2: Have you talked to her at all since the date?
Speaker 5: No, I haven't gotten a response back from her.
Speaker 4: It went from three women to zero now giving Tony attention.
Speaker 4: So hopefully you didn't get their numbers. Well, yeah, we
Speaker 4: didn't ask No, absolutely this yeast clear we're asking for
Speaker 4: their numbers in front of her.
Speaker 3: But okay, well, good luck out there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's call Gemma. We'll see if she picks up,
Speaker 4: and hopefully we'll figure out what's going on. Okay, all right, cool,
Speaker 4: let's do it. Hello, Hi, we're looking to talk to Jemma.
Speaker 5: This is Gemma.
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for picking up. Gemma. We're a radio show.
Speaker 4: We're called Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 6: Oh okay, weird.
Speaker 5: Why are you calling me?
Speaker 4: Uh, well, we're doing a segment called a second Date update.
Speaker 4: Not sure if you're familiar with that, but we're trying
Speaker 4: to help out one of our listeners get a hold
Speaker 4: of you after you went out on a date with
Speaker 4: him recently, guy named Tony.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, did you just get?
Speaker 2: Is that what? I?
Speaker 3: Okay, like a cough.
Speaker 6: Throat, listen, I don't know what this guy told you,
Speaker 6: but it was a very very awkward and incredibly weird.
Speaker 2: He actually told us something similar.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we we did hear about some of the events
Speaker 4: that occurred at the Mexican Place with the two girls
Speaker 4: coming sit right next to Tony at the communal table
Speaker 4: while you went off to the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean honestly that that's kind of a good sign, Gemma,
Speaker 1: because that means that you were disappointed, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I'm just saying like you liked him,
Speaker 1: because if he didn't like him, you might come back
Speaker 1: like they got.
Speaker 6: That's putting a really nice spin on it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, well, Tony says that he felt really bad
Speaker 4: about how it all went down. We're curious how you
Speaker 4: felt about the situation.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sure he did, honestly, Like at first I
Speaker 6: came back and I was like what, And then I
Speaker 6: saw how Tony was like clearly a little uncomfortable, So
Speaker 6: I was kind of I was kind of laughing, like inside, Okay,
Speaker 6: that's such a relief.
Speaker 2: What do you think their intentions were?
Speaker 6: Oh, I know what their intentions were. I'm pretty I'm
Speaker 6: pretty sure Tony by the way of a really good
Speaker 6: looking guy, and they like they swarmed in like locusts
Speaker 6: or whatever.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Okay, yeah, but you said that you
Speaker 4: didn't blame that on him.
Speaker 6: I don't think he invited just necessarily. But I started
Speaker 6: to get kind of irritated with these girls, these two girls.
Speaker 6: I was like, get the hint, ladies.
Speaker 5: He's with me.
Speaker 6: So Tony was so like flummoxed or whatever that he
Speaker 6: didn't even notice. But I called the waiter over and
Speaker 6: I was like, try it. Attempted to bribe the waiter.
Speaker 6: Still falsa on girl, did he do it?
Speaker 2: Did the waiter do it?
Speaker 1: How much money does something like that costs?
Speaker 2: The waiters? Probably annoyed at them too, if they're this
Speaker 2: type of person.
Speaker 4: Also, is like six dollars plus tips nine bucks.
Speaker 6: I waved a twenty at him, and he was like,
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I can't do that.
Speaker 4: Oh, I hope you gave that restaurant a bad review.
Speaker 1: I still understand that you're not blaming Tony, So why
Speaker 1: are you mad at him?
Speaker 2: Why did you go?
Speaker 6: I don't blame Tony in the beginning for not doing anything,
Speaker 6: but by the end this went on for so long
Speaker 6: he should have done more.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he feels that way too.
Speaker 4: Here's the deal. You actually sound pretty understanding about the
Speaker 4: whole situation. You're giving Tony a little bit of leeway
Speaker 4: on it. But we can maybe fix this. Because I
Speaker 4: do have to let you know, Tony is currently listening
Speaker 4: to this conversation on the other line, waiting to talk
Speaker 4: to you.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: No, that's a joke, and that's the only women.
Speaker 3: Hi.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I am here.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's very forrrimal Tony.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe you should say something to her.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, first off, I just want to apologize for
Speaker 8: what happened. I had nothing to do with them coming over.
Speaker 8: Obviously I didn't ask them, but I I didn't know
Speaker 8: what to do, to be honest with He was a
Speaker 8: weird awkward to like, just it was our first date.
Speaker 5: I don't know these people at all.
Speaker 4: Okay, that was that was good, Tony. You can let
Speaker 4: her respond to that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I ken't. And I appreciate the apology, Tony,
Speaker 6: but you already apologize. You told me that on the card.
Speaker 6: I'm not hearing anything new.
Speaker 4: Okay, come up with a better apology, Tony, go ahead.
Speaker 1: It does kind of sound like he's still blaming the women,
Speaker 1: like he's not like you need to own up to
Speaker 1: like your own non action a little bit more.
Speaker 3: Are you just like a very non confrontational person, brother?
Speaker 5: Like No, I would consider myself a non confrontational person.
Speaker 5: That's why it was a tough position too.
Speaker 2: Is that hot for you, jem.
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 6: I mean I don't want to guys like punching people
Speaker 6: in the face, but like you, guys be a little
Speaker 6: more forceful.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, I think he was just trying to
Speaker 4: be as respectful as he could.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you're not a confrontational guy either, Like you
Speaker 1: get where he's coming from.
Speaker 4: What are you saying, Brooke, Oh, He'm trying to put
Speaker 4: me in a corner right now?
Speaker 2: Did I just break Jeff?
Speaker 4: Let's not turn this into a situation with us, Jemma.
Speaker 4: Clearly Tony is remorseful about what happened and how he behaved.
Speaker 4: I'm sure he's He's even told us next time he
Speaker 4: doesn't want to do communal tables.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's like, I will reserve a table for two.
Speaker 4: So we'd like to help facilitate that second date and
Speaker 4: even pay for it if you're willing to give him
Speaker 4: another shot.
Speaker 6: What do you think, Jemma appreciate that offer. But I
Speaker 6: have just made a decision since this incident that I
Speaker 6: just I don't want this to be my life going forward.
Speaker 6: I don't want to be going out and fighting off
Speaker 6: girl raping themselves all over my date. So I've made
Speaker 6: a couple of adjustments.
Speaker 5: Does that mean, well, I'm going to date down what.
Speaker 1: You're just going to date the guys that you find
Speaker 1: less attractive?
Speaker 4: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: Competition?
Speaker 6: I'm not going to go after music, the you know,
Speaker 6: the hottest guy and the dating profile because I just
Speaker 6: don't need this kind of headache. I mean, I like you, Tony,
Speaker 6: but you're just too attractive for what I'm looking for
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 5: I have not the competition.
Speaker 4: I don't know if we've heard that one on the
Speaker 4: second date update before dating.
Speaker 5: This is the most ridiculous response. I was not expecting
Speaker 5: that at all.
Speaker 4: Why convince her that you're not as attractive as she
Speaker 4: thinks you are.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you have no idea, Gemma. By the way, this
Speaker 5: never happens to me. Like if I'm out with my friends,
Speaker 5: no girls are approaching me.
Speaker 4: I'm usually repulse women.
Speaker 2: Like me brushing my teeth and washing my face.
Speaker 6: But again, the girl magnet and your friends just repelled them.
Speaker 7: Okay, great, so he hasn't convinced you that he's ugly enough.
Speaker 6: I've been with him in person. He's cute, he knows
Speaker 6: he's cute, and he's not going to get any less cute.
Speaker 4: Well, tony, you started with one woman on a date,
Speaker 4: landed two more, and now you've ended up with zero
Speaker 4: because you're too attractive.
Speaker 3: Now that's boy
Speaker 1: Maticulous brooking Jeffrey in the morning,