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Speaker 4: Second Date Update. All right, let's do a hypothetical here.

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Speaker 2: I always love those, and Brooke, we're gonna.

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Speaker 4: Pretend that you're single, okay, singing you. I know she's

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Speaker 4: faked up.

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Speaker 2: No, I love my husband.

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Speaker 4: But let's say for a long time you're hanging out

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Speaker 4: at the bar, you're the same age that you are

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Speaker 4: right now. I don't want to say it out Loud's

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Speaker 4: just just keep that in mind. But again, you're single

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Speaker 4: and you see a cute guy cross the room, very attractive.

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Speaker 4: Do you approach him or do you try to get

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Speaker 4: him to notice you so that he walks over.

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Speaker 1: I've never had any tact, so I would definitely approach him.

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Speaker 4: And what do you do? What do you do?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe buy him a drink extra?

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Speaker 3: You're just like Hi and Brooke. I think you're cute

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Speaker 3: and dreams.

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Speaker 4: You flash a bunch of money in his face and

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Speaker 4: try to win him over like that.

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Speaker 1: I've told many guys at bars when I was single,

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Speaker 1: you're hot.

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Speaker 3: We love that.

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Speaker 4: We would girls will finally tell you.

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Speaker 2: I told you I don't have much shame or anything.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, not really, but it works because I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you it works.

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Speaker 4: I do think you forgot I said, you're still your

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Speaker 4: same age as now, but I'm gonna let you get

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Speaker 1: So I still say that.

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Speaker 4: Desperate at my age. But I bring it up because

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Speaker 4: one of our listeners says that he got approached by

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Speaker 4: not just one, but two different women, and he thinks

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Speaker 4: he knows the secret on how that happened. Okay, so

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Speaker 4: let's talk to him. Tony. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Hi, how are you guys doing?

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Speaker 2: Were two twins at the bar? Is that what.

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Speaker 4: She means lookalikes? Not the other classic she's accident, I know,

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Speaker 4: apologized for brook, but I know you went on a

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Speaker 4: date recently. Who is it with?

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Speaker 5: Her name is Jemma. We actually met on a dating APPE.

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Speaker 2: Said, somebody you at the bar? You met it on

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I know. Sorry, that might have been a

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Speaker 5: little confusing. So we went to this Mexican spot and

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Speaker 2: Like community seating.

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Speaker 5: Yeah exactly. We're like sitting with different parties and stuff

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Speaker 5: like that, and it's kind of social, you know, people

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Speaker 4: How do you be clear about that? Like T shirts matching?

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Speaker 3: Do you guys look alike?

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Speaker 5: Uh No, I don't think so. But it was more

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Speaker 2: Asking about your date.

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Speaker 1: Like, you know, I could see like two girls that

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Speaker 3: She thinks it's going bad.

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Speaker 5: Like I don't know, I don't know what it was.

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Speaker 5: But when Jemma came back to the table, she kind

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they stayed there and they were basically just paying

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Speaker 3: Is it that maybe she saw that they like and.

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Speaker 1: It's nothing if they're like making it a joke, right,

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Speaker 1: But this sounds like she was really left out out.

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Speaker 5: It probably hurt. Yeah, but I was trying to do

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Speaker 5: these girls to come over here. They just did it

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Speaker 5: on their own. It's got nothing to do with me.

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Speaker 4: You didn't move And one time I pretended to fall

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Speaker 4: I wasn't interesting. I kissed one of them. What do

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Speaker 5: I kind of And I told her this too. I

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Speaker 2: Did Emma like that reason?

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Speaker 5: Not at all?

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Speaker 2: Were you able to salvage the date at all?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point.

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Speaker 2: How long were they there?

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Speaker 5: They were there for the rest of the date, but

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Speaker 5: we didn't stay much longer. We uh awkwardly left and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, did you bring it up with Jemma though about like,

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Speaker 4: sorry about those two girls, Like I wasn't interested.

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Speaker 1: He told her the whole reason he thought they were

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Speaker 5: During Yeah, well, the girls were right there, so it

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Speaker 5: I just waited till we were in the car and

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Speaker 5: I apologized for their behavior and said, look, I had

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Speaker 5: nothing to do with me. I'm sorry. It was weird.

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Speaker 2: What did she say?

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Speaker 5: She said she understood, but there wasn't much after that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, ye dang, dude, what do you wish you would

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 5: It was a weird social situation, So I mean, I

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Speaker 5: guess I should have asked for a private table, but

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Speaker 5: that was kind of the whole experience of the spot

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Speaker 3: Weird. I I wonder where her side is.

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Speaker 4: Yell, we'll get that from her when we reach out

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Speaker 4: to her. But at least next time, probably need to

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Speaker 4: avoid the shared long tables.

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Speaker 1: You're just accepting attention from other women.

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Speaker 2: Women is probably what you need to avoid.

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Speaker 4: When you're with a girl Kerr Brother Chicks, we learned

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Speaker 4: and hopefully we'll get some answers when we reach out

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Speaker 4: to Gemma for you and come back. Try to get

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Speaker 4: your second date update. Right after this second date update,

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Speaker 4: one of our listeners, Tony, went out on a one

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Speaker 4: on one date that suddenly turned into a three on

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Speaker 4: one date boy, and the person who got excluded was Jemma,

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Speaker 4: the woman that he actually came to the restaurant with,

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Speaker 4: because two random girls got up and sat down right

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Speaker 4: next to Tony as soon as Gemma went off to

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Speaker 4: the whole rest of the night was kind of awkward.

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Speaker 2: From there, he tried to play foot seaes.

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Speaker 4: Just show Jemma that I'm actually interested in you. I

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Speaker 4: don't really care about these two new girls, so she

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Speaker 6: I think she was.

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Speaker 7: It's probably just a table leg and Tony's thoughts on

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Speaker 7: why this happened was actually pretty flattering towards Gemma, saying

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Speaker 7: that she was so attractive that these other ladies must

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Speaker 7: have been paying him attention, thinking, oh wow, this guy's

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Speaker 4: He must have something pretty special, either downstairs or upstairs,

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Speaker 4: who knows. At least that's Tony's thoughts on the situation.

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Speaker 4: We need to get Jemma's thoughts and see if we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how are you feeling, Tony?

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Speaker 5: A little nervous, but I get I kind of am

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Speaker 5: knowing what to expect, I think.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's how you're feeling upstairs. How you're feeling downstairs?

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Speaker 7: Okay, nerves going everywhere?

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Speaker 2: Have you talked to her at all since the date?

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Speaker 5: No, I haven't gotten a response back from her.

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Speaker 4: It went from three women to zero now giving Tony attention.

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Speaker 4: So hopefully you didn't get their numbers. Well, yeah, we

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Speaker 4: didn't ask No, absolutely this yeast clear we're asking for

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Speaker 3: But okay, well, good luck out there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's call Gemma. We'll see if she picks up,

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Speaker 4: and hopefully we'll figure out what's going on. Okay, all right, cool,

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Speaker 4: let's do it. Hello, Hi, we're looking to talk to Jemma.

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Speaker 5: This is Gemma.

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Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for picking up. Gemma. We're a radio show.

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Speaker 4: We're called Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.

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Speaker 6: Oh okay, weird.

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Speaker 5: Why are you calling me?

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Speaker 4: Uh, well, we're doing a segment called a second Date update.

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Speaker 4: Not sure if you're familiar with that, but we're trying

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Speaker 4: to help out one of our listeners get a hold

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Speaker 4: of you after you went out on a date with

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Speaker 4: him recently, guy named Tony.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, did you just get?

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Speaker 2: Is that what? I?

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Speaker 3: Okay, like a cough.

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Speaker 6: Throat, listen, I don't know what this guy told you,

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Speaker 6: but it was a very very awkward and incredibly weird.

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Speaker 2: He actually told us something similar.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we we did hear about some of the events

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Speaker 4: that occurred at the Mexican Place with the two girls

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Speaker 4: coming sit right next to Tony at the communal table

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Speaker 4: while you went off to the bathroom.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean honestly that that's kind of a good sign, Gemma,

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Speaker 1: because that means that you were disappointed, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I'm just saying like you liked him,

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Speaker 1: because if he didn't like him, you might come back

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Speaker 1: like they got.

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Speaker 6: That's putting a really nice spin on it.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, well, Tony says that he felt really bad

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Speaker 4: about how it all went down. We're curious how you

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sure he did, honestly, Like at first I

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Speaker 6: I was kind of I was kind of laughing, like inside, Okay,

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Speaker 6: that's such a relief.

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Speaker 2: What do you think their intentions were?

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Speaker 6: Oh, I know what their intentions were. I'm pretty I'm

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Speaker 6: pretty sure Tony by the way of a really good

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Speaker 6: or whatever.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Okay, yeah, but you said that you

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Speaker 4: didn't blame that on him.

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Speaker 6: I don't think he invited just necessarily. But I started

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Speaker 6: to get kind of irritated with these girls, these two girls.

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Speaker 6: I was like, get the hint, ladies.

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Speaker 5: He's with me.

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Speaker 6: So Tony was so like flummoxed or whatever that he

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Speaker 6: didn't even notice. But I called the waiter over and

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Speaker 6: I was like, try it. Attempted to bribe the waiter.

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Speaker 6: Still falsa on girl, did he do it?

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Speaker 2: Did the waiter do it?

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Speaker 1: How much money does something like that costs?

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Speaker 2: The waiters? Probably annoyed at them too, if they're this

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Speaker 4: Also, is like six dollars plus tips nine bucks.

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Speaker 6: I waved a twenty at him, and he was like,

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I can't do that.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I hope you gave that restaurant a bad review.

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Speaker 1: I still understand that you're not blaming Tony, So why

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Speaker 1: are you mad at him?

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Speaker 2: Why did you go?

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Speaker 6: I don't blame Tony in the beginning for not doing anything,

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Speaker 6: but by the end this went on for so long

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Speaker 6: he should have done more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he feels that way too.

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Speaker 4: Here's the deal. You actually sound pretty understanding about the

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Speaker 4: whole situation. You're giving Tony a little bit of leeway

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Speaker 4: on it. But we can maybe fix this. Because I

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Speaker 4: do have to let you know, Tony is currently listening

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Speaker 4: to this conversation on the other line, waiting to talk

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Speaker 4: to you.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: No, that's a joke, and that's the only women.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I am here.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's very forrrimal Tony.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe you should say something to her.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, first off, I just want to apologize for

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Speaker 8: what happened. I had nothing to do with them coming over.

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Speaker 8: Obviously I didn't ask them, but I I didn't know

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Speaker 8: what to do, to be honest with He was a

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Speaker 8: weird awkward to like, just it was our first date.

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Speaker 5: I don't know these people at all.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that was that was good, Tony. You can let

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I ken't. And I appreciate the apology, Tony,

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Speaker 6: but you already apologize. You told me that on the card.

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Speaker 6: I'm not hearing anything new.

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Speaker 4: Okay, come up with a better apology, Tony, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: It does kind of sound like he's still blaming the women,

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Speaker 1: like he's not like you need to own up to

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Speaker 1: like your own non action a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: Are you just like a very non confrontational person, brother?

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Speaker 5: Like No, I would consider myself a non confrontational person.

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Speaker 5: That's why it was a tough position too.

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Speaker 2: Is that hot for you, jem.

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 6: I mean I don't want to guys like punching people

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Speaker 6: in the face, but like you, guys be a little

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Speaker 6: more forceful.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, I think he was just trying to

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you're not a confrontational guy either, Like you

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Speaker 1: get where he's coming from.

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Speaker 4: What are you saying, Brooke, Oh, He'm trying to put

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Speaker 4: me in a corner right now?

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Speaker 2: Did I just break Jeff?

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Speaker 4: Let's not turn this into a situation with us, Jemma.

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Speaker 4: Clearly Tony is remorseful about what happened and how he behaved.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he's He's even told us next time he

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Speaker 4: doesn't want to do communal tables.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's like, I will reserve a table for two.

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Speaker 4: So we'd like to help facilitate that second date and

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Speaker 4: even pay for it if you're willing to give him

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Speaker 4: another shot.

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Speaker 6: What do you think, Jemma appreciate that offer. But I

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Speaker 6: have just made a decision since this incident that I

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Speaker 6: just I don't want this to be my life going forward.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to be going out and fighting off

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Speaker 6: girl raping themselves all over my date. So I've made

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Speaker 6: a couple of adjustments.

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Speaker 5: Does that mean, well, I'm going to date down what.

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Speaker 1: You're just going to date the guys that you find

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Speaker 1: less attractive?

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Speaker 4: What does that mean?

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Speaker 2: Competition?

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to go after music, the you know,

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Speaker 6: the hottest guy and the dating profile because I just

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Speaker 6: don't need this kind of headache. I mean, I like you, Tony,

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Speaker 6: but you're just too attractive for what I'm looking for

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Speaker 6: right now.

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Speaker 5: I have not the competition.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if we've heard that one on the

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Speaker 4: second date update before dating.

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Speaker 5: This is the most ridiculous response. I was not expecting

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Speaker 5: that at all.

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Speaker 4: Why convince her that you're not as attractive as she

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you have no idea, Gemma. By the way, this

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Speaker 5: never happens to me. Like if I'm out with my friends,

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Speaker 5: no girls are approaching me.

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Speaker 4: I'm usually repulse women.

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Speaker 2: Like me brushing my teeth and washing my face.

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Speaker 6: But again, the girl magnet and your friends just repelled them.

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Speaker 7: Okay, great, so he hasn't convinced you that he's ugly enough.

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Speaker 6: I've been with him in person. He's cute, he knows

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Speaker 6: he's cute, and he's not going to get any less cute.

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Speaker 4: Well, tony, you started with one woman on a date,

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Speaker 4: landed two more, and now you've ended up with zero

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Speaker 4: because you're too attractive.

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Speaker 3: Now that's boy

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Speaker 1: Maticulous brooking Jeffrey in the morning,