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Speaker 1: Welcome to Colts Roundtable Live on ninety three to five

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Speaker 1: and one oh seven five The Big Run.

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Speaker 2: He's trek down from behind down to the nineteen yard line.

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Speaker 1: We're talking Colts and recapping the action.

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Speaker 3: Ten good five but touchdown for the Colts.

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Speaker 1: Look at inside the thirty yard line and it's second winnard.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the voice of the Colts, Matt Taylor from

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Speaker 2: you up to Pacer pregame tonight that starts at six

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Speaker 2: point thirty here on the fan. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 2: I'm Matt Taylor. We're recapping Sunday's loss to the New

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Speaker 2: Orleans Saints and talking some Colts football. I'll be joined

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Speaker 2: by a Colts head coach, Shane Steikin coming up in

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Speaker 2: just a moment. He's gonna join us here at the

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Speaker 2: top of the show, and if you have any questions

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Speaker 2: hashtag Colts Roundtable. The Colts are now three and five

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Speaker 2: on the season. They're on a three game slide after

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Speaker 2: falling to the Saints thirty eight to twenty seven. The

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Speaker 2: loss drops the Colts to fourth place in the AFC

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Speaker 2: South and one and four at Lucas Oil Stadium all

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Speaker 2: the year, Colts got off to a fast start. They

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Speaker 2: built an early seventeen to seven lead in the second quarter,

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Speaker 2: thanks in large park to their running game and a

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Speaker 2: strip sack by DeForest Buckner that led to a Colts

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Speaker 2: field goal. But New Orleans scored on a twenty yard

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Speaker 2: run by Taysom Hill and a fifty eight yard pass

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Speaker 2: play to Rashid Shaheed to take the lead less than

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Speaker 2: six minutes later. After the Colts led by ten points,

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Speaker 2: they are outscored by the Saints thirty one to ten

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Speaker 2: the rest of the game, most of the damage offensively

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Speaker 2: by the Colts that was done in the first half.

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Speaker 2: Twenty of their twenty seven points for the game came

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Speaker 2: to the first two quarters. The Colts ran the ball

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Speaker 2: very well well in the first half, they compiled one

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen yards on eighteen carries. Jonathan Taylor and

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Speaker 2: Zach Moss each rushed for over six yards per carry

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Speaker 2: for the game, but Taylor had only one carry in

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Speaker 2: the second half and the Colts ran it just six

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Speaker 2: times pass halftime. It was a really tough day defensively

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Speaker 2: for the Colts. The Saints racked up five hundred and

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Speaker 2: eleven yards despite not gaining even three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: yards in any of their first seven games. New Orleans

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Speaker 2: averaged seven point seven yards per play on Sunday, which

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Speaker 2: was the highest number the Colts have given up in

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Speaker 2: a game since twenty seventeen. It was tough for the

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Speaker 2: Colts to generate a pass rush on the Saints as well.

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Speaker 2: They totaled just one sack for the game that was

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Speaker 2: that Buckner stripsack, and two hits total on Derek Carr,

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Speaker 2: who threw for over three hundred yards. The Saints were

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Speaker 2: explosive all game long. They generated six plays over twenty yards,

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Speaker 2: including three catches over forty by second year wide receiver

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Speaker 2: turnover on Sunday, but it was still costly. The Colts

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Speaker 2: were just outside the red zone and Gardner Minshew through

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Speaker 2: New Orleans would score a touchdown on sudden change, creating

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Speaker 2: at least a ten point swing and momentum. The Colts

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Speaker 2: back to back road games in the month of November,

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Speaker 2: and up next as a trip to Carolina to take

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Speaker 2: by Colts analyst Rick Venturi and Joe Writs. They're going

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Speaker 2: to join the show, and of course we'll take your

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Speaker 2: Colts round Table on x. But it's now time to

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Speaker 2: coach Shane Steichen, presented by Citizens Energy Group. Coach, really

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Speaker 2: appreciate the time tonight, very difficult game on Sunday. What

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Speaker 2: look back at the differences in this one against New Orleans,

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Speaker 4: Some little detail detail things that we got to clean up,

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Speaker 4: you know, giving up you know, we gotta you know,

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Speaker 4: down to. You know, we just got it. We got

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Speaker 4: we got to finish the games like we did earlier

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned the defense. Obviously it was a tough

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Speaker 4: Yeah. No, they got some good players over there. You know,

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Speaker 4: we got to do, you know, a really good job

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Speaker 2: Despite the loss, I mean the offense, as you said,

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Speaker 2: Knowing you did some good things, You are doing some

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Speaker 2: great things. You're scoring on average like twenty six twenty

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Speaker 2: seven points per game on the season, but in a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, you know, you score twenty in the

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Speaker 2: Shane sticking with us tonight on Colts Roundtable, Live with

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Speaker 2: you until six thirty this evening. So here the Colts

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Speaker 2: are there three and five. As we said, on a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think you know, obviously the second

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Speaker 4: half of the season we got to player best football

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Speaker 4: on November and December, and the communication and the details,

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Speaker 4: you know, got to rise up to another level going forward.

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Speaker 4: And I think you know, once you you know, you

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Speaker 4: And I've been a part of some teams, you know,

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Speaker 4: as an assistant coach. I started off zero and five

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Speaker 4: I know some of the players that have been here

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Speaker 2: All right, let's hit the mail bag. You can send

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Speaker 2: in those questions on X every Monday night hashtag colts

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Speaker 2: around tailor you know the drill by. Now, let's go

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Speaker 2: to Carson. Carson's up, asking what went into sticking with

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Speaker 2: the pass over the run of the second half, even

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Speaker 2: when it was still a one score game for most

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, to start the third quarter,

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Speaker 2: Let's go all right, let's go to Don don Is

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Speaker 2: asking what are you seeing from the defense right now?

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Speaker 2: What is making it tough? For us to get clutch

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Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing is, like I said earlier,

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Speaker 4: you know, not not allowing the explosives, you know, and

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Speaker 4: Those are you know, four point plays. That'll make a

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Speaker 4: obviously the turnovers those last two weeks, you know, just

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Speaker 2: Table Live. This is ninety three five and one oh

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Speaker 2: this after the game last night. This question is coming

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Speaker 2: from John. What did you think or why did you

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Speaker 2: go with the decision to play Brown over Baker in

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Speaker 4: Just you know, looking at what Tony's done, you know,

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Speaker 4: we felt you know, good about Tony into in that game,

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Speaker 4: and uh, you know, with with everything, we'll always evaluate

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Speaker 4: everything going forward.

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Speaker 2: Darius is asking why do you think Josh Downs is

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Speaker 4: You know what he grew up around football, you know,

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Speaker 2: First off, welcome back to another Colts Round Table Live tonight.

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Speaker 2: I wish we had better topics to talk about and

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Speaker 3: We're fired up. It's my kind of weather about thirty

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Speaker 2: There you go, go raise some money and get on Amazon.

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Speaker 6: That's harsh.

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Speaker 6: Man, you'd rather have confidence then.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you be confidence right exactly. Rick. How you doing, man?

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Speaker 6: I know Sunday that was that was a big day

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Speaker 5: Oh. I wanted to kill him. And it makes it worse. No,

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Speaker 3: You know what you know what we do, Matt, Matt,

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Speaker 3: Okay, let it go.

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Speaker 6: Bang bang, player, bang bang, keep the.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we've had some games here that have

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Speaker 5: six and scoring number eighth in total. And that's really

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Speaker 5: dog on good, you know. And you know for two

438
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Speaker 5: and a half quarters, you know, he got the ball

439
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Speaker 5: to Tailor, he got the ball the moss, he got

440
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Speaker 5: the ball the downs, and he scored right with him.

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Speaker 5: He played right even into a shootout. Minsh, you played

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Speaker 5: fairly solid, you know, he played good on his feet,

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Speaker 5: his movement. He made plays on his movement, big play

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Speaker 5: to Ogletree to keep it close. You know, unfortunately, when

445
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Speaker 5: your defense gives up thirty eight points in five hundred

446
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Speaker 5: and eleven yards, you got no margin for air. You

447
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Speaker 5: make one bad play and the game was over. And

448
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Speaker 5: there's no question the game kind of spun on the

449
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Speaker 5: interception to a debo and then he I think he

450
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Speaker 5: missed pierced on that critical third down. But otherwise it

451
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Speaker 5: just proved we really aren't going to win in a shootout.

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Speaker 5: And I think those couple of players did change the vine.

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Speaker 5: But if you would have told me, Matt and Joe,

454
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Speaker 5: if you would have told me that on offense we

455
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Speaker 5: would be as statistically as good as we are with

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Speaker 5: two different quarterbacks at this point, I would have gladly

457
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Speaker 5: taken it. After the twenty two season. Now, on the

458
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Speaker 5: other hand, I was totally disgusted with both the approach

459
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Speaker 5: and the execution in attempting to defend the Saints five eleven,

460
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Speaker 5: three point fifty four passing and as Joe said, one

461
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Speaker 5: hundred and sixty plus rushing. This was a team that

462
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Speaker 5: couldn't get out of their way for four the last

463
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Speaker 5: five weeks now. Listen, we know we have deficiencies on defense,

464
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Speaker 5: all right, and we can blame that on roster construction.

465
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Speaker 5: I would have never let Gilmour out of the door.

466
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Speaker 5: We've had some injuries, but that's not the issue now.

467
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Speaker 5: Now we are who we are, and an NFL coaching

468
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Speaker 5: staff has to deal with it, and it's your job

469
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Speaker 5: to mitigate the damages schematically. Okay, We actually, in my opinion,

470
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Speaker 5: made this situation worse. When I saw Brown at the

471
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Speaker 5: outside corner to start the game, I knew in my

472
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Speaker 5: mind we were doomed because that's not him. That's not

473
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Speaker 5: even his fault. He's not capable of that. And for

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Speaker 5: us to do that and not move Kenny out there

475
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Speaker 5: is absolutely ridiculous. I've said this for about three years now,

476
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Speaker 5: because this scheme does absolutely nothing to help a corner. Nothing.

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Speaker 5: There's no cover two, there's no cover eight, there's no

478
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Speaker 5: role to a player. It's just sit there and play

479
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Speaker 5: single high all day long. So in that case, you

480
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Speaker 5: aren't doing anything as a coaching staff to help that situation.

481
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Speaker 5: Number two, we had no answer whatsoever for Hill and

482
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Speaker 5: the Wildcat, and that has a huge part of the

483
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Speaker 5: New Orleans offense going all the way back to Sean Payton.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that isn't a surprise. We talked about that

485
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Speaker 5: for you had to be able to be ready for that.

486
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Speaker 5: At least give them an issue and make him throw

487
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Speaker 5: to win. I mean, in beeat is one thing, but

488
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Speaker 5: not having a good plan or adaptability is malpractice. And

489
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Speaker 5: that's what led up to that awful performance yesterday. The

490
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Speaker 5: Saints literally did whatever they wanted to do, run and pass,

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Speaker 5: and to me the final insult. And I'm not sure

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Speaker 5: I even realized that at the moment, because I was

493
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Speaker 5: counting the clock and when we were to get the

494
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Speaker 5: ball back, we got up as third and thirteen, and

495
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Speaker 5: now Gus brings the blitz at third and thirteen and

496
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Speaker 5: we are pressing with Tony Brown and Jalen Jones on

497
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Speaker 5: Shaheed and Olave at third and thirteen. Okay, we're in

498
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Speaker 5: pressed and they're naked. There's no safety even close. I

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Speaker 5: don't believe that Carr would have even thrown that ball

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Speaker 5: if he hadn't seen those guys undressed and took the

501
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Speaker 5: shot to end the game. And so when you look

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Speaker 5: at the Colts number six and scoring and number eight

503
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Speaker 5: total on offense, let's just flip it because right now

504
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Speaker 5: the Colts are numbered thirty two in points, giving up

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Speaker 5: in number twenty eight total defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, offense is rolling and defense. You know, they got

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Speaker 2: to figure some things out. As we said, the Colts

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Speaker 2: have a lot at least thirty seven points in three

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Speaker 2: It because the Colts have a lot of chores this

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Speaker 2: week and they need answers to fix some of their

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Speaker 2: back on Matt Taylor. It's time to call the handyman

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Speaker 2: because the Colts are on a three game skid, and

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Speaker 2: the Colts right now they're like a spouse, Rick Ventory,

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Speaker 2: They're like a spouse with a long honey du list.

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Speaker 6: You've been there.

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Speaker 2: They've got a lot of chores and they need a

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Speaker 2: let's discuss the areas that need fixing this week and

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Speaker 2: how the Colts have to address them. So let's start

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Speaker 2: with the cornerback concerns. The injury to rookie cornerback Juju

551
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Speaker 2: Brints certainly hurt the Colts on Sunday compounded those problems Colts.

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Speaker 2: Instead of playing Daryl Baker Junior, they started Tony Brown

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Speaker 2: on the outside opposite of Jalen Jones. And prior to Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Brown he played in one hundred and forty seven special

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Speaker 2: team snaps on the season, only one defensive snap in

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Speaker 2: the opener against the Jacksonville Jaguars, and Sunday was just

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Speaker 2: his second start since twenty eighteen. And in the Colts secondary,

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Speaker 2: obviously we all know the story by now, they allowed

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Speaker 2: several big plays. They allowed Derek Carr to throw for

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Speaker 2: over three hundred yards. Joe, I'll start with you for

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Speaker 2: called the handyman here for the secondary, how do the

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Speaker 2: Colts fix this problem before next week. What is the

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Speaker 2: best lineup at cornerback now that Baker and Brown have

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Speaker 2: had their troubles the last two games and Brent's is

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Speaker 2: possibly still out of the lineup coming up on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: We'll find out more. But potentially this is a problem

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Speaker 2: the Colts. They haven't been able to figure out so far.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna give you two things. And everybody's hammering

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Speaker 3: the secondary today, and I get that, but remember the

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Speaker 3: pass coverage is always directly tied to the pass rush,

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Speaker 3: and we had no pass rush yesterday. We're not getting

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Speaker 3: home with four. We talked about Stuart and in the

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Speaker 3: run game, but he pushes that pocket in the middle too,

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Speaker 3: and so when you have him and Buckner in the middle,

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Speaker 3: you're getting pressure up the A gap and moving those

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Speaker 3: guys off their spot. We had some success with that

577
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Speaker 3: early in the season. Now what teams are doing, well,

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Speaker 3: we'll just go ahead and we'll double Buckner, we'll solo

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Speaker 3: the other inside guy, Dio, whoever it is, and then

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Speaker 3: we'll just let our tackles work our edges. So we

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Speaker 3: didn't have any pass rush. What's put a lot more

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Speaker 3: pressure on the corners, and I think with the secondary,

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Speaker 3: you know, we can blame Tone. I mean, I know

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Speaker 3: ESPN reported that when Carr targeted him, he was seven

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Speaker 3: for seven with the TD a perfect passer rating. That's

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Speaker 3: that's a fact. But with him in a seventh round

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Speaker 3: rookie there, your best corner is Kenny Moore. And while

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Speaker 3: I think he's an elite nickel and I know he

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Speaker 3: does a lot of stuff in the nickel against the

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Speaker 3: run game, he's a good blitzer, forced defender. I mean,

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Speaker 3: if he's your best corner and elite inside, he's gonna

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Speaker 3: be good outside. And so I'm of the opinion that

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Speaker 3: I would dabble with putting him on the outside, moving

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Speaker 3: Brown or somebody else inside, because I think that gives

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Speaker 3: us a better chance to win. But Coach, I know

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Speaker 3: you're the expert back there. What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, first of all, you know, having watched every single

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Speaker 5: preseason practice, every single one on one drill, because I

599
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Speaker 5: didn't miss on one of them in all a preseason,

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Speaker 5: I felt for Tony Brown. You know, I said it

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Speaker 5: in the intro. When I saw Tony Brown go in there,

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Speaker 5: I thought he was going to go in and play nickel.

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Speaker 5: When I saw him on the outside. I said to myself,

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Speaker 5: this is a disaster. You know, this is a disaster

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Speaker 5: because we won't help him' that's number two. The first

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Speaker 5: The first thing is you never ask to do a

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Speaker 5: kid to do what he really can't do, and that's

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Speaker 5: not his spot. And then number two, if he is

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Speaker 5: in there and this is my this is my gripe

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Speaker 5: all the time here, you've got to help him Schematically,

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Speaker 5: You've got to play a lot more Cover two. You've

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Speaker 5: got to roll the defense to him. You can't leave

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Speaker 5: him out there one on one, you know, like he's Gilmore.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you can't play that scheme that way. You

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Speaker 5: have to be adaptable, you know. But I would say,

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Speaker 5: if I had a choice between the two, regardless of

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Speaker 5: what happened to Baker in the last game, Baker is

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Speaker 5: a far superior outside corner than Tony. Now, Tony is

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Speaker 5: a very serviceable nickel. I've seen it. I've seen it

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Speaker 5: in practice. I mean, he can play the nickel and

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Speaker 5: you know, to sit there and be stubborn. This is

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Speaker 5: the second staff. They said it all last week. They

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Speaker 5: were questioned about it, and not have Kenny Moore stay

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Speaker 5: on the outside and let if you put Brown on

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Speaker 5: the inside and Kenny on the outside, that result would

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Speaker 5: have been totally different. Now, I think they still would

627
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Speaker 5: have scorched us because we don't help them. But that

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Speaker 5: violates everything that I've known for forty years. And if

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Speaker 5: somebody wants to know the value of an outside corner

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Speaker 5: versus an inside corner, just check the NFL payscale if

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Speaker 5: you want to know, you never you never want to

632
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Speaker 5: be light outside the numbers. And when the Saints figured

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Speaker 5: it out, it was, like I said it during the game,

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Speaker 5: Tony Brown has like a red light on his helmet.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, and then you have to be

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Speaker 5: so much more varied in the scheme. Like I said,

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Speaker 5: we know what this this deficiency is, and we can't say, well,

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Speaker 5: we lose the game because we have young corners. No,

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Speaker 5: the idea is to win the game and do whatever

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Speaker 5: it takes to win it. And you can play a

641
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Speaker 5: lot more too. You can play two cora on first

642
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 5: down where you're bringing one of the corners. You can

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Speaker 5: play cover eight and roll to either corner and mix

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Speaker 5: it up so they don't know and use the other

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Speaker 5: safety as a run support guy. I mean, there's a

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Speaker 5: million ways to help the corner that we're either not

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Speaker 5: aware of or we just are so stubborn. But I

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Speaker 5: think at this point, when you're injured, when you're pared down,

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Speaker 5: you know, when you don't have many choices, then you

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Speaker 5: take a guy like Kenny Moore, who's a legitimate outside corner.

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Speaker 5: He plays every first down, he plays outside corner, and

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Speaker 5: then you slip Tony into the nickel where you can

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Speaker 5: help him in where he can function. I think it's

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Speaker 5: really I mean, it's not ideal, but it's certainly better.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it was suicidal yesterday in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: That's Rick Venturi, Joe Wright as long as well. I'm

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Speaker 2: Matt Taylor. This is Coults around Table, Live Tonight with

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Speaker 2: you until six thirty Pacer pregame takes over. Then we're

659
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Speaker 2: talking about the handyman fix. It's here for the Colts

660
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Speaker 2: trying to sure up some of their problems going into

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Speaker 2: Week nine against the Carolina Panthers. Let's talk about another

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Speaker 2: topic here, Joe sticking with the run because the Colts

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Speaker 2: they depended on the pass over the run from really

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Speaker 2: the second quarter on on Sunday, even with it being

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Speaker 2: a one possession game in the fourth quarter, the Colts

666
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Speaker 2: seem more content to throw it with Minshew rather than

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Speaker 2: run it with Jonathan Taylor and Zach Moss. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Taylor had eighty two yards rushing in the first half

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Speaker 2: on seven carries, but he only had five carries the

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Speaker 2: rest of the game. He went about ten minutes between

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Speaker 2: handoffs in the first half, and the Colts they only

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Speaker 2: ran it six times in the second half. Gardner Minshew

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Speaker 2: wound up with forty one attempts through the air. The

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Speaker 2: running back duo there between Taylor and Moss had just

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Speaker 2: twenty three carries. Does a handyman need to fix that, Joe?

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Speaker 2: I mean, how broken is that model? Considering the Colts

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Speaker 2: are still scoring points. They still scored twenty seven points yesterday,

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Speaker 2: which in theory should be enough points to win an

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Speaker 2: NFL game.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was okay, actually, Matt, because I thought

681
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Speaker 3: we stayed committed to the run till it got to

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Speaker 3: be thirty five twenty and I know, just the ebbs

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Speaker 3: and flows of the game. You know, we might not

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Speaker 3: have had as much carries, but you think you know

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Speaker 3: that drive im referenced earlier, and we were down twenty

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Speaker 3: one to twenty at our own three. I mean, we

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Speaker 3: ran the ball to get down into their territory, and

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00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: that was Zach Moss, Zach Moss, big gain, Zach Moss.

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Speaker 3: And then we threw the interception. They came and scored,

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Speaker 3: and then that next play, you know, we had the

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Speaker 3: sack fumble. They got overturned, and so now we're behind

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Speaker 3: the chains. We threw two more times and punted it.

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Speaker 3: So I think in theory, maybe you could have dialed

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Speaker 3: up a run there, but when you call that pass

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Speaker 3: on first down, second and ten, third and ten, you

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Speaker 3: got to throw it. So I've I've been happy with

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Speaker 3: the mix. I think Shane's done a good job. I

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Speaker 3: think he'll stay committed to the run. But then to

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Speaker 3: your point, then when you get down thirty five to twenty,

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Speaker 3: you kind of have to throw it every down. So

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Speaker 3: I thought that was more of a game, and what

702
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Speaker 3: our defense gave up dictated us not being able to

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Speaker 3: stay committed to the run all the way through the

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Speaker 3: end of the game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm I'm kind of with Joe there. I think

706
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Speaker 5: what happens in matt a lot is you'll get a

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Speaker 5: media kind of a pathology. After the game. You'll go

708
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 5: back and you say, oh, I'll be damn you know.

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Speaker 5: You know Taylor didn't carry the ball in the second half,

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Speaker 5: you know, instead of a real time view where you

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Speaker 5: really have feel for the game, and Joe's exactly right.

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Speaker 5: I mean we had when we got that ball out

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Speaker 5: of there. We we did a heck of a job

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Speaker 5: of getting that ball out from I think we were

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Speaker 5: started at the ten because the guy was punting us

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Speaker 5: down in the hole. And then of course Moss has

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Speaker 5: the breakout, and I mean, we are running the rock.

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Speaker 5: We're running the rock, and that game is really tight

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Speaker 5: right there. I think it's a one pointer at that point,

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Speaker 5: and we're banging it out of there in the third quarter,

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Speaker 5: and then the interception happens and you know, a deebo

722
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Speaker 5: breaks brings it out to the thirty, and then they

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Speaker 5: run through us, pass through us, run through us like

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Speaker 5: we're not today.

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Speaker 2: And then it kind of changed the dynamic of it

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Speaker 2: right see.

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Speaker 5: To me, it made it an eight point game, and

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Speaker 5: in real time you felt like, now our defense is

729
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Speaker 5: not going to slow these guys down seriously. And then

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Speaker 5: the next series, we had a couple of runs that

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Speaker 5: we got stuffed on. We got stuffed on a couple

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Speaker 5: of runs and all of a sudden, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 5: you know, I felt like Sean said all of a

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Speaker 5: sudden that I didn't know. I don't think I disagreed

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Speaker 5: with them. Is I'm going to have to win this

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Speaker 5: in a shootout because we are not going to stop them.

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Speaker 5: I think it was. I can't put you know, I

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Speaker 5: can't give you a definite, you know, substitutive number on this.

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Speaker 5: But it was a feeling with me at the time.

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Speaker 5: That's why I pretty much really, you know, agree with Joe.

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Speaker 5: I do think, you know, it'll be interesting from that

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Speaker 5: standpoint how we handle it. You know, we have we have.

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Speaker 5: It's a good problem to have, but it's a little

744
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Speaker 5: bit of a problem too, because when you have two

745
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Speaker 5: running backs and you have one good running back and

746
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Speaker 5: one great running back, sometimes the enemy of good is great.

747
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 5: I mean, the enemy of great is good. And I

748
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Speaker 5: think we have to be careful on when we have

749
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Speaker 5: Taylor in the game. But that's another argument. But I

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Speaker 5: was not. I was not as upset like I said.

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Speaker 5: I think that's postgame analysis and I'm not sure that

752
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Speaker 5: that's real, a real time analysis.

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Speaker 3: And I think, what to Coach's point, when I watch

754
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Speaker 3: that game, Zach Moss is a really good runner, but

755
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Speaker 3: he's not at Jonathan Taylor's level. And I've always felt

756
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Speaker 3: like Taylor is a cumulative runner. He does better when

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Speaker 3: he gets twenty five thirty carries, not when he gets

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Speaker 3: fifteen and stays fresh and he pounds people and pounds

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Speaker 3: him in third and fourth quarter, he really goes to work.

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Speaker 3: And so I think some of that, and probably some

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Speaker 3: of it's limited Taylor's action coming back. But even though

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Speaker 3: you want to split carries and get Moss on the field,

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Speaker 3: you lose a little bit of that cumulative running power

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Speaker 3: where Taylor is really at his best when he's on

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Speaker 3: his twenty fifth carry in the middle of the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to ball Matt when the game is

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Speaker 5: on the line. Now, the game got away because it

768
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Speaker 5: got to be a fifteen point game and we're still

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Speaker 5: two possessions, But I want to ball twenty eight hands

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Speaker 5: and in Downs's hands. I want to ball in those

771
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Speaker 5: two guys until they take those two guys away, and

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Speaker 5: then I'll work to somebody else.

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Speaker 2: All Right, that's our segment breaking down some of the

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Speaker 2: areas that might need fixing this week for the Colts.

775
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 2: In practice, the Colts calling the proverbial handyman this week?

776
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Speaker 2: How handy are you, fellas Joe? Are you? Are you

777
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: mister fixing around the house or no?

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Speaker 3: Zero. My wife does all the handy work. Actually, here's

779
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 3: what tells you where where I'm at. When I get

780
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Speaker 3: home from work, she goes out and mows the lawn

781
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Speaker 3: and I stay in with the six kids. One she

782
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: likes doing it too. I think she likes escaping the frenzy.

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Speaker 3: But I realized early on when we were putting together

784
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 3: a crib for our first child, I didn't know what

785
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 3: I was doing, and we got in a big fight

786
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Speaker 3: because I didn't know, And I said, you know what, Babe,

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Speaker 3: you take the reins. I'll be second in command here.

788
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Speaker 3: So hey, missus Rice does all the work at our house.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Rick, I imagine your two biggest tools are a screwdriver

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Speaker 2: and a credit card.

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Speaker 5: First of all, Miss Sherry would be laughing. Get this

792
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Speaker 5: right now, me. She does the electrical work. I've always said,

793
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 5: I've always said I'm the provider and much not much else.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of merit to that as well.

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Speaker 2: He's asking after eight games and nearly half of the season.

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Speaker 2: How close are we to your expectations this season? And

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Speaker 2: how disappointing is it that we're losing games to teams

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Speaker 2: that probably won't make a lot of noise come playoff time. Joe,

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Speaker 2: where are you three and five on the Colts? How

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Speaker 2: far off are they based on where you had them

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Speaker 2: at the beginning of the season in training camp, based

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Speaker 3: Now great question, Alexander, And I think when you look

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Speaker 3: at eight games in the season's half over and kind

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Speaker 3: of looking back reflective, you told me, hey, we're three

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Speaker 3: and five, I'd say, Okay, that's probably about where we're

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Speaker 3: going to be at. But what happened with this team

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Speaker 3: was I think they exceeded expectations early. And when you

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Speaker 3: go in and win at Baltimore and you're two and one,

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Speaker 3: coming back with four out of five games at home,

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Speaker 3: all winnable games, you start to think, man, could we

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Speaker 3: be five and three out of the stretch six and two?

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Speaker 3: What's gonna happen? You start to think about the playoffs

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Speaker 3: a little bit, and I think what's disappointing is the

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Speaker 3: Rams game, this Pass game, the Cleveland game, all at home.

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Speaker 3: Those were all games we had a legit chance to win.

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Speaker 3: We've really only been beaten soundly once and that was

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Speaker 3: down in Jacksonville. So I think while it's three and

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Speaker 3: five and that probably is about where I thought eight

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Speaker 3: games in through the season, I think there's a little

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Speaker 3: bit of disappointment in that you could have had one

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Speaker 3: or two more wins, but not discouragement. I definitely think

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Speaker 3: the arrow is up on this franchise, and I think

864
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Speaker 3: a large part of it is what we're doing a

865
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Speaker 3: offensively under Shane, but be just the attitude that he's brought,

866
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Speaker 3: that toughness, that accountability, guys are playing hard, they want

867
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Speaker 3: to win. I can't say enough about him. If I

868
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Speaker 3: had degrade our head coach, I'm not gonna give him

869
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Speaker 3: an a plus. But I think that you know, through

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Speaker 3: the first eight games, the first time you know where

871
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Speaker 3: in the headset I mean, I think he's done an

872
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 3: outstanding job.

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Speaker 5: Totally concur on that in my feeling. My feeling, I'm

874
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Speaker 5: very much like Joe, you know, I went in here

875
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 5: with a very open mind to this season, feeling that

876
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Speaker 5: it might be difficult and that we might it might

877
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Speaker 5: just be a transition year. But I've recalibrated it because

878
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Speaker 5: you know, there's no question about the effect that Steichen

879
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Speaker 5: has had on this team. This team is so much

880
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Speaker 5: more competitive and better than I thought it would. And

881
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 5: so in that sense, I'm not demoralized or anything. I'm

882
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 5: just totally frustrated. But I think in that sense, frustration

883
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 5: is really good because you feel like you should be

884
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Speaker 5: winning these games, you know, not just competing. Now, I

885
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Speaker 5: will say this to you, Matt, my world mentally is

886
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Speaker 5: upside down right now, because I'm not sure that I

887
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Speaker 5: would have thought that a Minshew led team, and you know,

888
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Speaker 5: even even a Richardson because he was a rookie, you know,

889
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Speaker 5: at this point, yeah, would have the kind you know,

890
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Speaker 5: I mentioned it before, sixth in scoring eight total, eight rushing,

891
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 5: thirteen pass offense, and eleven in the red zone.

892
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Speaker 2: Now, we talked to the beginning of the season and

893
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Speaker 2: whether or not this defense could be top.

894
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Speaker 5: Ten or not exactly. I was thinking that, you know,

895
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 5: this team would really really struggle on offense and there

896
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Speaker 5: and at this point in the season right against some

897
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 5: really good defenses too. I mean that's five categories where

898
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 5: we're twelve or better, right, you know, And yet on

899
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Speaker 5: the other end, of it. A defense that we had

900
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Speaker 5: great expectations for is sitting there at thirty two in

901
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 5: the score. And you can give some excuses for that,

902
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 5: but twenty eighth total, which means you're not stopping anybody

903
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 5: when you're giving up that many yards. So you know,

904
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 5: it's a frustration. But I, you know, I think in

905
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 5: a good sense because I think the future's bright and

906
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 5: I want it to be better quickly. But again, like

907
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 5: I said, my world is totally upside down because I

908
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 5: didn't I didn't see the fact that what would be

909
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 5: good and what would be bad at the stage.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go one more for the both of you.

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00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: This is a good one from Kyle. Kyle is asking

912
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Speaker 2: what can we do to get better on run downs

913
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Speaker 2: from our defensive tackles without Grovers. I feel like Tavian,

914
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Speaker 2: Bryan Joe should only be out there on passing downs.

915
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Speaker 2: What do you make of that?

916
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Speaker 3: Well, Vince will Forkank coming out of retirement to plug

917
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Speaker 3: up that middle, and so I think you gotta do

918
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Speaker 3: what you gotta do. And I think it's uh, you know,

919
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Speaker 3: we can't just go in there with guys that aren't

920
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Speaker 3: Grover Suit expecting them to be Grover Stewart. So I

921
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Speaker 3: think we got to do more. And we did a

922
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Speaker 3: little bit yesterday about stunting the line, moving the line,

923
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Speaker 3: shooting linebackers in the A gap, you know, or B

924
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 3: gap where you're just saying, hey, this is a straight

925
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Speaker 3: run blitz. As soon as the ball snap, you're just

926
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Speaker 3: hitting it head on. And so I think we got

927
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Speaker 3: to do some different things schematically. Also, I wouldn't mind

928
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Speaker 3: us playing three linebackers in the box more. I know

929
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: the NFL so much has evolved into having a nickel

930
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 3: and Kenny Moore is good at nickel, but all of

931
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 3: a sudden, you put him in the outside, you put EJ.

932
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: Speed in as a third linebacker. He can cover well,

933
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: he's fast and he'll hit that hole now. So maybe

934
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 3: experimenting with some different just formation and personnel things I

935
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Speaker 3: think could help us stop the run.

936
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Speaker 5: Well, I talked about you know, I talked about a

937
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 5: coach's duty, and I always look at it from a

938
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Speaker 5: cozy's perspective. You know, a coach's responsibility is to you know,

939
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Speaker 5: utilize his assets and protect his liabilities. And I've talked

940
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 5: a lot about coverage options that you should be doing

941
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 5: when you have inferior corners that we haven't done yet,

942
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Speaker 5: And I think that's important. But it also carries on

943
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 5: the other deficiency now is the interior is the nose tackle.

944
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 5: We have a deficiency at corner. We have a deficiency

945
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 5: at nose tackle. It's not going away. I mean to

946
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 5: drop off from Grover to all those other guys. They

947
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 5: tried to play Tony a little bit. He was bad

948
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 5: a game, Brian. Brian's not a nose tackle. I mean

949
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 5: it's not even close, you know, And it's showing. I mean,

950
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 5: we gave up one hundred and sixty plus rushing yards

951
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 5: to a team that was twenty eighth in the league

952
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 5: at three point eight at like three point eight or

953
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 5: something a rush. So you know, I think that you

954
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 5: have to do something different. You know what is what

955
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 5: do they say to the You know, the definition of

956
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 5: insanity is doing the same thing over and over and

957
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 5: expecting a different result. I mean to me, when if

958
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 5: you know when you play you're over, you want to

959
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 5: fire that Mike backer. You want to fire that Will backer.

960
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 5: You want to make you don't. You want to make

961
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 5: it where that nose tackle doesn't get driven off the

962
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 5: ball with a double and wash everybody else. The other thing,

963
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Speaker 5: I've been saying it for three weeks. We're the only

964
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 5: team in the league that doesn't play bear. I mean,

965
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 5: there is not another team that doesn't either use it

966
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 5: as their primary defense where their secondary defense. And for

967
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 5: some reason, I think we must think it's illegal and

968
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 5: never use it. That would help totally. And then we

969
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 5: have and then Leonard is really struggling. Leonard is not

970
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 5: playing physical. You don't have to take my word for it.

971
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 5: Just look at the tape, and you know he's just

972
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 5: he's He's really not. And so when you add you know,

973
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 5: those things all together, it's really a struggle. And so

974
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Speaker 5: we're we again, We're going to have to address both

975
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 5: the corner position and how we play schematically, and the

976
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 5: nose tackle and linebacker position how we play.

977
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Speaker 2: That's a look at the Colts mail Bag, a part

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Speaker 2: of Colts Round Table Live Tonight. We're kind of up

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Speaker 2: against it, Rick Vantury and Joe Wrights. When we come back,

980
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Speaker 2: we'll close out the show very quickly. Look ahead to

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Speaker 2: week number nine and the Carolina Panthers. We're back closing

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Speaker 2: it out. You're listening to Colts Around Table Live Tonight

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Speaker 2: on ninety three, five and one oh seven five the fan.

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Speaker 1: We now return to Colts Round Table Live once again.

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Speaker 1: Here's Matt Taylor from the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back for the final time Colts Around Table Live.

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Speaker 2: Pacer pregame coming up at the bottom of the hour.

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Speaker 2: across the Midwest. Closing it out real quick, Joe Wrights

994
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: and Rick Vantury their final arguments. And as we said, Joe,

995
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Speaker 2: the Colts are teetering. They're three and five, they're in

996
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: last place in the AFC South. They're on a three

997
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 2: game losing skid. But now the Colts hit the road.

998
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: They've got two straight games before the buye on the

999
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Speaker 2: road for the next five away from Lucas Oil Stadium. Joe,

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Speaker 2: what are the leaders on this team? What do they

1001
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Speaker 2: have to stress to make sure this season doesn't spiral

1002
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Speaker 2: out of control like last season did?

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Speaker 3: You just got to win one game. Everything's got to

1004
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 3: be about beating Carolina. They're a team that's limited offensively,

1005
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: clearly struggling, barely won their first game last week, and

1006
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Speaker 3: then you play New England in Germany. Those are both

1007
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 3: very winnable games against two teams that are struggling this year.

1008
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Speaker 3: So bottom line, win this one, win the next one,

1009
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Speaker 3: get yourself the five and five of the bye week,

1010
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Speaker 3: and then you've climbed yourself back into playoff contention.

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00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, when you look at the Carolina Panthers, I think just,

1012
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 5: you know, very quickly three things. Obviously, the Frank Reich factor.

1013
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 5: You know, those guys are gonna play their tails off.

1014
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 5: You know, he's gonna get everything he can to get

1015
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 5: this ball game. And then two players have really interest

1016
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 5: to me. A guy having a great year. It's under

1017
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 5: the radar, but Feeling is a guy with fifty seven

1018
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 5: catches now and he is number five in the National

1019
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,959
Speaker 5: League with catches. And then they have a really good

1020
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Speaker 5: edge Rusher and Burns. So just for starters, you know,

1021
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Speaker 5: those are two guys that you have to play.

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Speaker 2: And they're going to be motivated, Like you said, Rick,

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Speaker 2: They're going to pour it all out there trying to

1024
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Speaker 2: get their head coach and win against the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 2: That's going to be a given. And that's all the

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Speaker 2: time we've got tonight, Rick and Joe, great job. As always, again,

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Speaker 2: my thanks to head coach Shane Steikin who joined in

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Speaker 2: the first segment tonight as well. And as always, if

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Speaker 2: you missed any of tonight's show, check it out on

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Speaker 2: the Colts Mobile app and Colts dot com and the

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Speaker 2: do it again next Monday, starting at six, but Pacer

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Speaker 2: Hoops is coming up next. It's the Pacers and the

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Speaker 2: Bowls tonight at the Fieldhouse. Thanks for listening to Colts

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Speaker 2: Round Table live on the Home of the Colts. This

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