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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Giants Huddle, a New York Giants podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to a new episode of the Giant Subtle Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is John Schmulk. Today we're joined by Jim Nagy,

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Speaker 1: who was the executive director for the Reesa's Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 1: and we'll do a little preview of that game and

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Speaker 1: the event during the week. But first I want to

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Speaker 1: remind you that you can find the Giant Subtle Podcast

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Speaker 1: slash podcast for all of the Giants podcast offerings. And

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Speaker 1: now we're joined by our guest, Jim Nagi. He's the

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Speaker 1: executive director of the Reese's Senior Bowl and probably one

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Speaker 1: of the busiest guys in America right now. Jim, we

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Speaker 1: really appreciate the time joining us a week leading into

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Speaker 1: the game. How's everything going, Uh, yeah, everything's busy, but

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Speaker 1: everything busy is great. Everything's great. Appreciate you having me

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Speaker 1: on this morning, Yeah, no problem. This is year two

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Speaker 1: for you. Anything that you learn from year one that

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Speaker 1: you either changed your adjusted heading into year two in

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Speaker 1: terms of how you find your players and and frankly

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Speaker 1: how you convince a lot of these guys that it's

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Speaker 1: good of them to come to a game like the

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Speaker 1: Reese's Senior Bowl. Yeah, they have learned a ton, you know,

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Speaker 1: and anytime first year in the job, you you know,

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Speaker 1: you're you're learning on the fly. So so I learned it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I learned a lot of different things. But uh, you know, procedurally,

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Speaker 1: in terms of the scouting side of things, we we

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Speaker 1: we kept things pretty similar. Um, we added a couple

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Speaker 1: more scouts on the road this year. We had a

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Speaker 1: four man staff. Uh year one, we had six this year. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, so procedurally that the way we went about

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Speaker 1: our business there was very very similar. We added some

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Speaker 1: more things on so media to really connect with the players. Again,

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Speaker 1: it we don't have a NFL scouting budget, so we're

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Speaker 1: you know, we were at of the hundred and fifteen

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Speaker 1: players we have come to the game, we saw a

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Speaker 1: hundred and twelve of them live in games. So we're

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Speaker 1: very proud of that. Um, but you know, we don't

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Speaker 1: day at schools and connecting with players that way. So really,

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Speaker 1: you know, our our our biggest recruiting tool is social media,

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Speaker 1: so we did some more things that way, and really

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Speaker 1: we started on this year's group of players really last

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Speaker 1: that's April and May, even before last year's draft, we're

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Speaker 1: posting stuff about this year's class. So, um, we really

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Speaker 1: got about a four or five months head start on

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Speaker 1: the recruitment and it paid dividends. You know, my year one,

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Speaker 1: we had about six or seven seniors to climb our

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Speaker 1: you know, the buying factor with the players was huge,

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Speaker 1: and and I think this group of players saw last

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Speaker 1: year's group and and having ten first round picks and

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Speaker 1: but I did. I learned learned a lot on the job.

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Speaker 1: You're one now in my mind, and I know it's

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Speaker 1: not true. It's basically, Zach Taller, I'm at Patricia doing

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Speaker 1: odds and evens and picking their rosters. Here, how does

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Speaker 1: it actually work? How do you this side? Who goes

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Speaker 1: You know, we we we obviously picked a picked the

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Speaker 1: down in the teams and and uh, there's really three

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Speaker 1: criteria for me. Um. You know, there was no handbook

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Speaker 1: game day as well. I mean all star games are crazy.

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Speaker 1: hear from them. You've heard their story from from other people,

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Speaker 1: so pick a different guy. Uh, that's number one. Number two.

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Speaker 1: I think what he's trying to build there in in

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Speaker 1: that's when you see, you know, the guys that come

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Speaker 1: You know, You've got a guy like Javon Kinlaw from

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Speaker 1: with Justin Herbert probably you know his potential top ten picks.

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Speaker 1: Kin Laws big, He's explosive, he's really athletic. I mean,

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Speaker 1: his best football is way out in front of him.

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Speaker 1: kin Law is a guy that could that could be

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Speaker 1: right there and play for him. Jim, great stuff. I

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Speaker 1: know you're busy. Thanks so much for the time, and

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Speaker 1: uh we look forward to see them in their mobile

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Speaker 1: next week. Thanks so much. Yeah, I appreciate you guys

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Speaker 1: here in a couple of days. Absolutely. That's Jim Nagy.

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