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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? Happy Halloween? Hopefully you parents
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Speaker 1: also playing, meaning we're getting more rogers and we get
Speaker 1: to continue the potential debacle that is this team. But
Speaker 1: I do think they lose again. We potentially will see
Speaker 1: another firing on Friday morning, so I'll get into that
Speaker 1: and we talked about Rex Ryan, like could they bring
Speaker 1: him in mid season? The World Series is doing really well.
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, go to this game wearing just some outrageous costumes.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily expect Rogers to remember a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago when he showed up to training camp looking
Speaker 1: like the dude from Nicholas Cage's character in con Air
Speaker 1: put the bunnet back into box. He just looked just
Speaker 1: like I forget the character's name, but the hair was flowing,
Speaker 1: had he had the outfit going and perfect, but now
Speaker 1: he's got short hair, so I don't think he can
Speaker 1: quite pull that off. But we're forced to watch the
Speaker 1: Jets again and that's the reality of them acquiring Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: and like Aaron even said that the league told them
Speaker 1: Yells won. So they're on primetime NonStop and they clearly suck,
Speaker 1: and I think this night has a chance to really
Speaker 1: put the nail in the coffin. Obviously, their season's already over,
Speaker 1: like this team's not going anywhere, but just in terms
Speaker 1: of really shake some things up if they lose to
Speaker 1: the Texans, which to me, even with the Texans injuries
Speaker 1: Nico Collins out Digs is out for the season, their
Speaker 1: passing game really has struggled the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: So Joe Mixon looks really good defensively, I think Demiko
Speaker 1: if he gets pressure on Aaron Rodgers. We've seen Aaron
Speaker 1: aate movin and you've seen some quotes coming out from
Speaker 1: unnamed executives in articles like it's you don't need to
Speaker 1: be an NFLGM to watch him play and go this
Speaker 1: guy's a shell of himself. This guy is nowhere remotely
Speaker 1: close to what he once was. Welcome to life. I mean,
Speaker 1: most guys as they age are not Tom Brady. I
Speaker 1: say this all the time. Most guys think about Tom
Speaker 1: Brady's peers, Peyton Manning his last season, could not throw.
Speaker 1: I attended the Super Bowl. Actually it was one of
Speaker 1: my great bets of all time. Had a lot of
Speaker 1: money in the Broncos as an underdog against the Carolina Panthers,
Speaker 1: and after the first couple drives it was a wrap
Speaker 1: like you could tell his arm and I had seen
Speaker 1: him earlier that season against the Raiders and his arm
Speaker 1: was just as bad. It didn't work. Roethlisberger by the
Speaker 1: end was a dink and dunk guy. Drew Brees, same thing.
Speaker 1: Couldn't throw. Old guys, banged up players aren't the same now,
Speaker 1: like Brady if Rogers just standing there. He has an
Speaker 1: elite arm still, but he can't step into throws anymore.
Speaker 1: So all of his throws are like back foot, let
Speaker 1: it fling. And even when he used to enlisten Historically,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is exactly the first guy you go to
Speaker 1: a teach tape on. And I think sometimes Packer fans
Speaker 1: know this Jordan Love is like copy and pasted his game,
Speaker 1: which is a good thing, but sometimes it can get
Speaker 1: him in a little trouble. Like I haven't charted it,
Speaker 1: but I would imagine a decent amount of Jordan Love's interception,
Speaker 1: especially over the middle of the field, have been backfooted,
Speaker 1: like fade away Michael Jordan jumper throws, which is not
Speaker 1: the ideal way to play. It's why guys like Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning and Tom Brady and even a lot of other
Speaker 1: guys in that era. You know, Philip Rivers is a
Speaker 1: good example. Like their arms, you know, Peyton Manning, Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers didn't have good arms, so they had to be
Speaker 1: fundamentally stown and step into throws because they had to
Speaker 1: get as much juice on it as possible. Aaron never had,
Speaker 1: you know, Aaron always got away. He's like a pitcher.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I throw ninety nine miles an hour,
Speaker 1: so yeah, my breaking ball's not great, but good luck
Speaker 1: hitting ninety nine. And it turns out in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four everyone's thrown, so it's getting a little easier to hit.
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean. And you watch Rogers
Speaker 1: and in one way, it's like, yeah, kind of sucks
Speaker 1: seeing great players get old, but like, welcome to sports,
Speaker 1: and I get there are a couple outliers. I mean,
Speaker 1: like the way Lebron looks, I mean he was the
Speaker 1: best player on our Olympic team, the way Brady looked
Speaker 1: forty three, forty four years old. That those are not
Speaker 1: normal situations and we cannot get used to that, and
Speaker 1: the expectation for these guys should not be that. And
Speaker 1: I think we're learning that with Aaron, even if his
Speaker 1: team was better and his offensive line was better, he
Speaker 1: would still be nowhere near what he was three or
Speaker 1: four years ago. Remember his last year in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: There were some kinks in the armor that year, and
Speaker 1: that's way before it's Achilles ripped. So like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: year has been a disaster. I also think I've seen
Speaker 1: some takes, you know, guys like Mike Greenberg. This is
Speaker 1: the most historic, like failure in the history of sports.
Speaker 1: I gotta call bullshit on that, not because it's not
Speaker 1: a failure, it clearly is. They spent a lot of money.
Speaker 1: They've traded for a bunch of guys. They got a
Speaker 1: bunch of high you know, valued names and a lot
Speaker 1: of high priced guys. I mean, Rogers should be making
Speaker 1: what forty five to fifty a year, but he gave
Speaker 1: him a big pay cut. Obviously, DeVante signed one of
Speaker 1: the biggest contracts in the history of the sport at
Speaker 1: his position a couple of years ago. All these guys
Speaker 1: got traded for first round picks. But this team has
Speaker 1: sucked for a long period of time. I mean they
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they have the I'm not pretty sure.
Speaker 1: I know they have the longest standing playoff drought in
Speaker 1: American pro sports. Like that's not nothing. I mean we're
Speaker 1: going on like fifteen years now. So I would argue
Speaker 1: that like last year, the Dallas Cowboys, who have been good,
Speaker 1: losing at home as a big favorite to the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers in Jordan Love was a way bigger failure
Speaker 1: getting their ass kicked, I'd argue to Baltimore Ravens getting
Speaker 1: a home game also favored against Patrick Mahomes, whose team
Speaker 1: only scored seventeen points. If I had told you at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the playoffs, like you know, the wild
Speaker 1: card round, that it's gonna be Ravens Chiefs, and the
Speaker 1: Chiefs are only going to score seventeen points, that's all.
Speaker 1: You know. The line's gonna be the same. There is
Speaker 1: no way, even if you're not a gambler, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: be like, hey, what's the draft Kings account? Like I'm
Speaker 1: putting a lot of money. That's an epic failure. Right.
Speaker 1: The Jets have been a disaster because we talk about
Speaker 1: them so much, but like, this team has sucked for
Speaker 1: a long period of time, and these guys together haven't
Speaker 1: one crap. Part of you know, what makes football to me,
Speaker 1: why I love it so much, is because it brings
Speaker 1: everything into play, right, Obviously tangible like the skills, like
Speaker 1: you gotta have it, you need high end players, but
Speaker 1: unlike baseball, coaching really matters every single play, every single position.
Speaker 1: Chemistry and unity as a group matters a lot. I
Speaker 1: would also say intangible stuff like, ultimately, if Aaron Judge
Speaker 1: is hitting or not hitting, and I'm recording this before
Speaker 1: Game five, it has nothing to do with like his
Speaker 1: intangibles or his toughness or whatever. He just not seeing
Speaker 1: the ball very well right now. Loss is confidence, right,
Speaker 1: like a huge part of football, Like the Washington Commanders
Speaker 1: aren't exactly I don't know the ninety four Cowboys from
Speaker 1: a roster standpoint, No one's gonna get it confused with
Speaker 1: some of the great teams we've ever seen, even if
Speaker 1: they end up winning twelve games. But I would imagine
Speaker 1: if you got Adam Peters or Dan Quinn on the
Speaker 1: phone and said, describe this team to me, separate from
Speaker 1: the quarterback. And obviously Terry mclaurin's a really good player,
Speaker 1: but they got a lot of guys that like are
Speaker 1: our work ethic, our toughness, our football IQ, our willingness
Speaker 1: to do whatever it takes Monday through Saturday is through
Speaker 1: the roof. It's the buy in has been crazy, Like
Speaker 1: in baseball, do you need a buy in? Like in basketball,
Speaker 1: like you either can shoot threes or you can't. Like
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook's trying. He can't hit water from a boat
Speaker 1: if he was in the middle of the ocean. That's
Speaker 1: just welcome to a guy that can't shoot. Right. We're
Speaker 1: in football. There are a lot of guys like, hey,
Speaker 1: he's kind of slow footed. You know, he doesn't have
Speaker 1: the longest arms. But it's like he's the toughest mfor
Speaker 1: on our team. And when you look at the Jets,
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, Tyron Smith used to be good. He's
Speaker 1: not good anymore, Right, a lot of hype on some
Speaker 1: of your young players. That's like, yes, oas Gardner's not
Speaker 1: playing very well, their coaching staff is abomination, but their
Speaker 1: quarterback just isn't nearly as good as he once was.
Speaker 1: And we've talked a lot about this, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: the leadership I mean from Peyton Manning and Tom Brady
Speaker 1: is just elite. Their drive and their standards for their
Speaker 1: teammates or like they might as well be Nick Saban
Speaker 1: but with a helmet and football pats, Like those guys
Speaker 1: are even outliers. Like no one would confuse Roethlisberger's leadership
Speaker 1: as being like all time great, but for a lot
Speaker 1: of his career it's like, yeah, this guy's one of
Speaker 1: the most I don't know, unique players we've ever seen. Wait,
Speaker 1: this guy six y six two seventy, huge arm, toughest shit,
Speaker 1: hard to bring down. And then as he lost it
Speaker 1: as he got older, he just wasn't quite the same.
Speaker 1: And when you lose it as a quarterback. The one
Speaker 1: thing Ben had is like, you know, the culture and
Speaker 1: the team so they could still be really competitive. They
Speaker 1: had Mike Tomlin. You look at the Jets, it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: Rogers lost it clearly can't save the team. I saw
Speaker 1: Colin went on a thing on on his TV radio show.
Speaker 1: I guess more of a TV show now podcast as
Speaker 1: the way I usually consume or a YouTube TV. It's
Speaker 1: like the saviors don't exist, and I would say sometimes
Speaker 1: they do. If you get like an all time great
Speaker 1: player like Andrew Luck, if you put him on most teams,
Speaker 1: like he's gonna be have a savior element to him.
Speaker 1: I mean that Cold Steam was not very good, but
Speaker 1: like a forty year old coming off an achilles, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got no chance in a league. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's softer than ever, but there's never been more speed
Speaker 1: on the field. All these defensive coordinators are getting paid
Speaker 1: a boatload of money to figure you out, and it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't run. So it's like, wait, one of your
Speaker 1: main strengths that made you a great player is just
Speaker 1: completely gone. And it's why Tomorrow night like I expect this,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not betting this game because it does feel
Speaker 1: like everyone thinks they're gonna lose and then they end
Speaker 1: up winning. It's a short week at home, but like
Speaker 1: if they do lose, I feel pretty confident, like the
Speaker 1: general manager's probably fired on Friday. Now, the GM's contract
Speaker 1: is over at the end of the season. I think
Speaker 1: the writing's on the wall. It's not like he's getting
Speaker 1: a contract extension. I mentioned this yesterday. I don't think
Speaker 1: it would be the craziest thing you've ever heard if
Speaker 1: Woody Johnson pulled a Jim Rsay, but instead of Jeff
Speaker 1: Saturday got an ESPN guy that knows how to coach.
Speaker 1: We mentioned Rex Ryan. Why it makes a lot of
Speaker 1: sense to be the next head coach of the Jets
Speaker 1: is if you tell me they lose, like, why not
Speaker 1: just bring them in Saturday or Sunday. I haven't start
Speaker 1: coaching the team on Monday. Like he'd clearly do it.
Speaker 1: He'd drop everything heart beat and come back. If you're
Speaker 1: the just like, what's the point of just rolling this
Speaker 1: out with Jeff Ulbrich, who is like, you've had a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Clearly he ain't the answer, and you
Speaker 1: have greatly diminished his one strength, which was just focusing
Speaker 1: on the defense. So wouldn't it make sense just to
Speaker 1: fire the GM and to ask and now who knows?
Speaker 1: Maybe Rex is like I don't want the mid season snink.
Speaker 1: I'll definitely interview. But my guess is the way Rex
Speaker 1: is talked about, I think he'd show up immediately and
Speaker 1: just almost give you a trial run. And my expectations
Speaker 1: is like, just can can you get the train back
Speaker 1: on the tracks? Can you get us just pointed in
Speaker 1: the right direction? Can you take this corner that everyone
Speaker 1: said was the greatest thing since sliced bread? Who have
Speaker 1: always thought sauce was a little overrated, but he was
Speaker 1: a high end Pro Bowl level player. Is playing like
Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent. That's what a scout told me
Speaker 1: the other day. Like throw on his tape. He looks atrocious.
Speaker 1: Now is he banged up? I don't know, but like
Speaker 1: that would not fly. The one thing you know with
Speaker 1: Rex is like the culture and the effort, like there
Speaker 1: are non negotiables. Well, what happens when you bring in
Speaker 1: a substitute teacher, like you usually screw around. You know,
Speaker 1: back in the day when I got substitute teacher. We
Speaker 1: used to have in the nineties, those role in televisions
Speaker 1: with the VHS and usually like watch a movie and
Speaker 1: everyone was just dicking around, whether it was elementary school,
Speaker 1: junior high, or high school and I think sometimes we
Speaker 1: always talk about the boost of the interim coach. I
Speaker 1: think most consistent theme is yeah, maybe a game, and
Speaker 1: then it usually resorts back to what it was and
Speaker 1: a lot of times worse. And usually the guy's an
Speaker 1: interim coach for reason. The teams and shambles, and there's
Speaker 1: not much he can do if he's not some future
Speaker 1: coaching star. So like, from what I've heard, and it's
Speaker 1: pretty clear they thought this guy had head coaching upside,
Speaker 1: and listen, maybe he does. Maybe you should go to
Speaker 1: college or something, but he's just completely over his head
Speaker 1: the first several weeks. I mean, losing that game last
Speaker 1: week is an embarrassment. So I think everything would be
Speaker 1: on the table if they lose at home with a
Speaker 1: bunch of people. And here here's what someone told me.
Speaker 1: When you lose like this, like that Patriot game, the
Speaker 1: negative energy coming in on Halloween night, people wearing costumes.
Speaker 1: I would imagine a lot of sarcastic costumes toward the Jets.
Speaker 1: And if you have a bad night as a primetime game,
Speaker 1: I just think the owner is going to do something.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's already shown that he's a pretty inconsistent guy, right,
Speaker 1: just in terms of his messaging, his actions. So buckle
Speaker 1: up if you're a Jets fan, and honestly, like, would
Speaker 1: anyone complain if you just said, yeah, Rex Ryan started
Speaker 1: coaching on Monday, like because if they lose, like, okay,
Speaker 1: you're two and seven, you're completely done. No one wants
Speaker 1: to speak about you. But that would keep me entertained.
Speaker 1: I saw some numbers come out on the old interweb
Speaker 1: that the World Series outdrew Monday Night Football. Now both
Speaker 1: these numbers, you know, Monday Night Football usually does between
Speaker 1: twelve and fifteen million people. I mean sometimes big game
Speaker 1: as the season goes on could be much higher, but
Speaker 1: like you're doing thirteen to fifteen million people. For example,
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals last year is doing like nine ten
Speaker 1: million people. That's what's in the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: So these are enormous numbers that the baseball game did
Speaker 1: like fourteen million plus. And this World Series has been huge.
Speaker 1: I mean, the ratings have been just astronomical relative to
Speaker 1: what the baseball Just the vibe in the World Series
Speaker 1: has become in terms of interest, it's clear. I mean,
Speaker 1: you get the two biggest brands in the sport. The
Speaker 1: Yankees probably have one of the biggest fan bases all
Speaker 1: of American sports, even football. So I mean I would
Speaker 1: have ma imagine just the quantity of their fans. Probably
Speaker 1: isn't that far behind, like the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, say,
Speaker 1: if you just did, are you a Yankee fan all
Speaker 1: over the world. But I do think it shows us,
Speaker 1: Like we talk a lot about football, it's greatest strength.
Speaker 1: It's easy to consume. The overwhelming majority of human beings
Speaker 1: do not work on Sunday. The games once a week
Speaker 1: for two and a half three hours. It's easy to
Speaker 1: follow your team. You don't have to change your lifestyle
Speaker 1: very much. And if your team happens to play on
Speaker 1: Monday night football, it's usually after work so you're able
Speaker 1: to watch it. It's just a very very easy sport
Speaker 1: for a fan to watch the games, and then the
Speaker 1: games mean more. Right, you play once a week, and
Speaker 1: the one thing clearly with baseball, you play every day.
Speaker 1: Even Maria last night Game four was on, She's like, wait,
Speaker 1: the World Series on is again? I'm like, yes, Baseball,
Speaker 1: you play, you know, they're no, they're the only off
Speaker 1: day be to travel. Like, if you're in the same city,
Speaker 1: you play back to back, you just play all the time, right,
Speaker 1: even in the World Series, I'm like, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: this is the way it works. Like this isn't the
Speaker 1: NBA Finals where you have a couple of days off,
Speaker 1: Like this is you are playing and let's face it,
Speaker 1: Like I'm a good example. I would say I'm on
Speaker 1: the high high end of sports fans, just the amount
Speaker 1: when I was a kid that I consumed and I watched.
Speaker 1: Through my twenties, I've dedicated my life to working in
Speaker 1: the business and I don't think if you count from
Speaker 1: Game one to Game one sixty two, I watched more
Speaker 1: than a total of nine innings of baseball. Now part
Speaker 1: of that is I no longer live in the market
Speaker 1: in which the team I root for plays in, But
Speaker 1: the Giants are so bad. Even if I did, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't watch them. They're not good enough for me even
Speaker 1: to think about like getting the package and like during
Speaker 1: the offseason, like I'm just not watching Sunday Night baseball.
Speaker 1: But a huge part of the culture we live is
Speaker 1: like football became something that everyone wants to be involved in,
Speaker 1: and I think college football has benefited from that too.
Speaker 1: Is like WHOA, I got to watch this game and
Speaker 1: it's become a huge event. I think TV shows benefit
Speaker 1: from this right obviously social media. If you haven't watched
Speaker 1: the show and your friends talk about it, you see
Speaker 1: stuff online and it feels like a big deal. You
Speaker 1: feel like you're missing out. So you're like, what's this
Speaker 1: penguin show? Wait, Colin Ferrell's doing? What all these people
Speaker 1: are talking about it? I gotta check it out? And
Speaker 1: then you watch it. And that's how it to me.
Speaker 1: TV shows in twenty twenty four become really big. It's
Speaker 1: kind of word of mouth in the power of social media. Now,
Speaker 1: if you don't like the show after a couple episodes,
Speaker 1: you might not keep watching. But I'd say for the
Speaker 1: most part, most of the big shows kind of spread
Speaker 1: that way. You don't want to feel like you're missing out.
Speaker 1: I'm not a big sci fi I don't even know
Speaker 1: if Game of Thrones falls under that, right, but the dragons,
Speaker 1: the just kind of that world is not for me.
Speaker 1: But I felt like everyone was watching Game of Thrones,
Speaker 1: so I was like, I watched it. I didn't like
Speaker 1: it that much. It didn't do that much for me.
Speaker 1: Beside like I'm in you give me nudity, you give
Speaker 1: me some sex and you give me people getting killed,
Speaker 1: like I can watch, no problem, but I watched because
Speaker 1: I didn't want to feel like I was missing out.
Speaker 1: And football holds that part of our lives right now.
Speaker 1: I think the reason the NBA has lost, you know,
Speaker 1: half of its viewership over the last decade is like,
Speaker 1: you can't have the teams and the players tell you
Speaker 1: they don't care about the games and expect the consumer
Speaker 1: then to care, and when you lose them throughout the year,
Speaker 1: like you better have the perfect combination, like baseball has
Speaker 1: lost that. And if this was Padres versus the Guardians,
Speaker 1: these numbers would probably be five six million people watching.
Speaker 1: But you give me Yankees, you give me Dodgers. It
Speaker 1: feels big. I have not missed a I'm trying to
Speaker 1: bang this out right now so I can go watch
Speaker 1: the game here in about forty five minutes. And I
Speaker 1: think that's cool, and it's one thing that we still
Speaker 1: share in common. It's why my love of football. I
Speaker 1: love just running into people and then eventually talking about football.
Speaker 1: It's a great communal experience and I say it all
Speaker 1: the time, like my crossover in the golfing world, I
Speaker 1: would say most times when I play golf with people
Speaker 1: that I do not know. Football is brought up within
Speaker 1: the first couple holes, and once we kind of level
Speaker 1: out what I do or what team they root for,
Speaker 1: becomes a consistent theme throughout the eighteen holes that we play.
Speaker 1: And that's just not true for the other sports, I
Speaker 1: would say consistently, because they're not an event that we
Speaker 1: all share anymore. And obviously there are a lot more
Speaker 1: people you know in the world than thirteen or America
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen million people. But I do think just a
Speaker 1: lot of people casually, and that's really benefited the NFL
Speaker 1: is like they've had an enormous increase in women watching,
Speaker 1: and I think one way, and I think a lot
Speaker 1: of these women are people's girlfriends and wives because they
Speaker 1: don't want to feel like they're missing out because it
Speaker 1: feels bigger than maybe it did fifteen, twenty thirty years ago,
Speaker 1: because it's true, and they've marketed that way and it's
Speaker 1: kind of worked, especially relative to the other sports. So
Speaker 1: I'm very fortunate. Like I can't imagine, like when I
Speaker 1: did a daily radio show, I had to watch every
Speaker 1: baseball game. I watched every basketball game, and half the
Speaker 1: time I was like I don't even care that much,
Speaker 1: but you gotta do your job. You got to know
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. And I don't have to do
Speaker 1: that anymore. So to get me to watch something that
Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about on this podcast, like,
Speaker 1: it's got to be really really good and really really interesting,
Speaker 1: and I think the World Series this year with the
Speaker 1: Yankees and Dodgers has captured that and it's been really cool.
Speaker 1: I mean, that moment of that fan ripping the ball
Speaker 1: out of Mookie Betts's glove is some of the funniest
Speaker 1: shit I've ever seen. On a serious note, for a
Speaker 1: split second, You're like, bros, he gonna hurt his wrists
Speaker 1: because that would have been bad, but obviously no one
Speaker 1: got injured. Like it was hilarious like that. That is like,
Speaker 1: obviously the guy's insane to even have that idea. I
Speaker 1: saw Rob Gronkowski said he went to college with this
Speaker 1: guy at Arizona. He was on the hockey team. He's
Speaker 1: like that dude's insane, And this is Gronk saying that.
Speaker 1: So I just it's had some fun moments. It really has.
Speaker 1: It's kind of got me back into baseball. Let's do
Speaker 1: five big question marks as we head into week nine,
Speaker 1: I thought we just do this just a way to
Speaker 1: kind of talk about some of the big things this weekend,
Speaker 1: just things that I that I was kind of fired
Speaker 1: up on. Let's start with this one, because you know, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm in the business talking football, you gotta include the
Speaker 1: Cowboys sometimes. I do think it's interesting, like, are the
Speaker 1: Cowboys really just gonna suck? Like, listen, anyone that wants
Speaker 1: to push back and say they get talked about too much.
Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from. But at least the
Speaker 1: last three years they've been a twelve win team, They've
Speaker 1: won the division twice, Like they've been a real tangible story.
Speaker 1: Are they really headed towards six or seven wins? Like,
Speaker 1: because that's what it kind of feels like. Right now.
Speaker 1: They're playing the Falcons, who have won four of their
Speaker 1: last five games. I saw before I press record, Cousins
Speaker 1: was just named Offensive player of the week. I think
Speaker 1: what he throw four touchdowns? You know, talk about the
Speaker 1: polar opposite of two guys that tore their achilles last
Speaker 1: year and Rogers did in Game one, Cousins did it
Speaker 1: what in November? And Cousins now looks fantastic. But remember
Speaker 1: Custins a couple of years younger. And here's the other thing.
Speaker 1: Cousins game's not predicated on a running round. Cousins ain't
Speaker 1: thrown from the back foot. Cousins if his cousin's arms, fine,
Speaker 1: he plays. You know. I'm not saying he's these guys,
Speaker 1: but his style is manning Brady. He's sitting in the pocket,
Speaker 1: stepping into throws, no running because he can't run, no
Speaker 1: ad libbing off because if he gets, if you pressure him,
Speaker 1: it's over. Kind of with God. Those guys are stepping
Speaker 1: the throws, deliver the ball, so they're fundamentals have to
Speaker 1: be elite for them to play well. And you watch
Speaker 1: a Cousin, You're like, got it just looks good again.
Speaker 1: He looks like a normal good player and a Rogers,
Speaker 1: which is weird to say about one of the best
Speaker 1: quarterbacks of all time, Like not mister fundamental, you know,
Speaker 1: And you watch Cousins of Slice and Dice, and this
Speaker 1: Dallas event sucks. Cool moment I saw Digs who went
Speaker 1: at it with that reporter about the tweet. They shared
Speaker 1: a laugh today. I also think it's fair because I
Speaker 1: watched the full video spliced up with the one today
Speaker 1: of them kind of laughing. If you haven't seen it,
Speaker 1: google Trayvon Digs and the Reporter. I do think after
Speaker 1: a game, when you're getting your ass kicked, like emotions
Speaker 1: are pretty high, like if I'm mad and something happens,
Speaker 1: like if something bad happens to you for the next
Speaker 1: I don't know, thirty minutes hour before you can either
Speaker 1: walk it off or kind of give a little time
Speaker 1: like you're gonna be hot. Like I do understand guys
Speaker 1: after a game, even if it's it's like the first
Speaker 1: thing you do is check your phone. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I could be critical of that. I do the same shit,
Speaker 1: so do most people listening. Like the phone kind of
Speaker 1: lives in our hand. So is it that crazy that
Speaker 1: he walks in the locker room after losing another game
Speaker 1: that he checks his phone, like, yeah, well, welcome to
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, but you lose this game, which they're
Speaker 1: an underdog. Uh, And I don't think most people are
Speaker 1: confident Dallas is winning this thing all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: It's like you're three and five then you play the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Are you just headed for a disaster? Are is it
Speaker 1: gonna get bad enough where Jerry knows Mike is not
Speaker 1: coming back and like fires him in the middle of
Speaker 1: the season or fires him around Thanksgiving. I think everything's
Speaker 1: on the table if they lose this game, because then
Speaker 1: they would, assuming Philly handles Jacksonville, be a pretty big
Speaker 1: underdog at home. The other thing for Atlanta in this
Speaker 1: game they win it. Tamp is going to Kansas City
Speaker 1: on Monday night. This division because you know, my Saints
Speaker 1: are dead. Uh could could be over pretty quick. I
Speaker 1: saw on Pro Football Talk today that the Bills technically
Speaker 1: can clinch the division if all goes right by week eleven.
Speaker 1: I don't know the math here on Atlanta, but we
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen. It could be a rap and they could
Speaker 1: just be playing for seeding. So this is the tough
Speaker 1: team to play now. Atlanta can't really rush the passer,
Speaker 1: but offensively they got some horses and I can see
Speaker 1: b John Robinson. If you play daily fantasy, if you
Speaker 1: want to gamble on some some touchdowns for a game,
Speaker 1: that might be a good game to dabble on. Bijeon
Speaker 1: having a big day number two. I think this is
Speaker 1: a question that your guests is as good as mine.
Speaker 1: But I'm pretty fascinated to watch this game. How will
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears respond? That has to be one of
Speaker 1: the biggest kick in the Dick losses you will ever see. Listen,
Speaker 1: you lose on a hail mayor there's probably nothing worse
Speaker 1: in football like listen a lot of guys game winning
Speaker 1: field goals when the other teams lined up for a
Speaker 1: field goal. You got a pretty good idea depending, you know.
Speaker 1: I somehow my algorithm on YouTube. I watched now Davis
Speaker 1: video and now I've been getting a bunch, and I
Speaker 1: got put the video of the day that he fired
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin and he had the overhead projector, and last
Speaker 1: night I ended up watching like forty five minutes of it.
Speaker 1: I don't know talk about having no life, but I
Speaker 1: had forgotten when Lane kiffen rolled out Sebastian Janakowski for
Speaker 1: a seventy five yard field goal. Obviously it wasn't even
Speaker 1: close to being made, and SeaBASS had a big leg,
Speaker 1: But like I would say, anything inside fifty. For the
Speaker 1: most part, if you're on the sideline or you're a fan,
Speaker 1: you are expecting to lose. No guys clearly missed field goals.
Speaker 1: You are not expecting to lose on a Hail Mary
Speaker 1: and everything that happened after that with the video at time,
Speaker 1: Eric Stevenson how critical everyone's been with the coaching staff,
Speaker 1: because let's face it, they've been pretty shitty. You're coming
Speaker 1: to Arizona, who's four and four, who has shown a little,
Speaker 1: They've been down in games and come back. They are
Speaker 1: very difficult to play. They're gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: Bears fans there would if you're like, down ten to
Speaker 1: nothing after the first quarter, are you getting booed? You know?
Speaker 1: I think this thing, this game, to me, is all
Speaker 1: about Eberflusen, the staff if they have any shot of
Speaker 1: keeping this job. Like this is a must win game,
Speaker 1: if the Bears want to sniff the wild card, which
Speaker 1: might be dead after that game on the Commanders when
Speaker 1: you look at their schedule, This is a must win.
Speaker 1: This is a must win. And I kind of like Arizona.
Speaker 1: But Arizona also makes me nervous because I bet on
Speaker 1: them and they've laid eggs, so it's they're kind of
Speaker 1: a stay away. But I think this thing could get weird,
Speaker 1: and this thing could get weird fast because Cale's a
Speaker 1: rookie and he's not playing that well. So it's not like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: get on. He can't look at them like Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: or Josh Allen to get on my back. Fellas, I
Speaker 1: got us this week. I'll like these guys up Like
Speaker 1: Christmas Tree, He's very dependent on his coordinator and as
Speaker 1: head coach. I saw today Montes sweat miss practice, who
Speaker 1: he was awesome last week? Like, how's this team gonna look?
Speaker 1: Because to me it's it's I don't think there's much
Speaker 1: middle ground. They're either gonna respond and have a chip
Speaker 1: on their shoulder and look good. They are the better
Speaker 1: team than the Arizona Cardinals. They should win this game
Speaker 1: or they might melt. And to me, if they melt
Speaker 1: this game, it could kind of unravel and those games
Speaker 1: against the Packers and those games against the Lions could
Speaker 1: get ugly. So I'm fascinated by this matchup. Number three
Speaker 1: is Sean McVay in the Los Angeles Rams back because
Speaker 1: if I would have told you three weeks ago that
Speaker 1: the Rams were playing Seattle in Seattle, what's the what's
Speaker 1: the what's the line? I think it would have been
Speaker 1: Seattle minus five, minus six, obviously, factoring in the injuries
Speaker 1: and the way the two teams are playing. Now you
Speaker 1: watch Seattle, who looks like shit. I saw They asked
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald today if about Halloween. He's like, I don't
Speaker 1: really like Halloween. And then he laughed and he said,
Speaker 1: I dressed up for Bill Belichick one year, but Belichick
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't like that because of the way our defense
Speaker 1: is playing. And then you get the Rams, who are
Speaker 1: coming off a mini by right because they played on
Speaker 1: Thursday night. They get those two guys back, their offense
Speaker 1: looks dramatically better, obviously. I mean, Puka Naku is one
Speaker 1: of the best receivers in the league. Cooper is still
Speaker 1: a solid player. It opens up their run game. Their
Speaker 1: defense is solid. We'll have to you know, if DK
Speaker 1: plays are not it's a pretty big deal for Seattle.
Speaker 1: But these guys used to play in just great games
Speaker 1: when Pete and Russ were there. But I feel like
Speaker 1: I can see the Rams win this game by ten plus.
Speaker 1: I mean, if they're gonna play like they did last week, rejuvenated,
Speaker 1: refreshed and just explosive on offense all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you're gonna look up if you look
Speaker 1: at the Rams schedule and they're gonna be like six
Speaker 1: and four or seven and five. You're like, wasn't this
Speaker 1: team like one and four? Like yeah, And then they
Speaker 1: got Pooka Toakua and Cooper Cup back, and they still
Speaker 1: got Matt Stafford. I do think, how do I want
Speaker 1: to fraighten this? Are we on a collision course for
Speaker 1: Philly and Washington? I look today eleven fourteen, So that's
Speaker 1: basically in you know, two weeks, the Eagles played the
Speaker 1: Commanders on Thursday Night Football. So Washington this week plays
Speaker 1: the Giants in New York like the comedy's there. Then
Speaker 1: they get Pittsburgh at home, which gonna be a tough game.
Speaker 1: The Eagles host the Jags big seven and a half
Speaker 1: point favorite, and then they go to Dallas. These two
Speaker 1: teams are the same record right now. As long as
Speaker 1: they both win one of these next two games and
Speaker 1: neither team gets swept, that game is massive. That will
Speaker 1: be easily the best Thursday Night game of the year
Speaker 1: in terms of momentum going in. So this Commander story
Speaker 1: really is pretty incredible. What dan Quinn Adam Peters signing
Speaker 1: just kind of you know, lower name guys, guys that
Speaker 1: weren't as sexy just depth players for other teams and
Speaker 1: you just watch them play, they just look solid. Obviously
Speaker 1: their quarterback has been pretty freaking good, and I just
Speaker 1: feel like their defense is overachieving, and to me, you
Speaker 1: have to look at dan Quinn for that. So are
Speaker 1: we on a collision course? And I don't think Philly,
Speaker 1: you know, is I think Philly is the better team,
Speaker 1: like roster wise, way better actually, But I thought the
Speaker 1: same thing about the Bears and eber Flus. Say this,
Speaker 1: like if you were just comparing eber Flus to Sirianni,
Speaker 1: now that I think the Eagles team is obviously better
Speaker 1: than the Bears, but you would go, here's what I
Speaker 1: say about Eberflus, what I wanted as my head coach,
Speaker 1: of course not. He is a really good defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: like his de He is good at that When I
Speaker 1: Sirianni is like, well, I don't even know. Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: and Jalen have settled down and their defense has got pressure,
Speaker 1: which Sirianni is nothing to do with. So that that
Speaker 1: is always the swing here, Like I would take dan
Speaker 1: Quinn over Sirianni, and that could be an equalizer even
Speaker 1: if a team does have more talent, But I looking
Speaker 1: at the schedule, I was kind of like, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of excited for that game already. And then my fifth
Speaker 1: will Green Bay and Detroit live up to the hype? Obviously,
Speaker 1: Jordan Love is injured and he said today that you know,
Speaker 1: the plan is a he's optimistic, he thinks he can play,
Speaker 1: and he's probably not gonna be able to practice all week.
Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, that's clearly not ideal to play
Speaker 1: in a game, especially a big one, when you don't
Speaker 1: practice today, you know, Wednesday, Thursday or Friday. But like
Speaker 1: sometimes it's the cookie crumbles that way, right, if you're injured.
Speaker 1: Could Green Bay win this game with Malik Willis? I
Speaker 1: think it's fair to say no, Right, that would be
Speaker 1: like Lafleur's crowning achievement. If he were to beat the
Speaker 1: Lions with Malik Willis, you could argue that's more impressive
Speaker 1: than like resurrecting Rogers. He's like, well, resurrected Rogers, Like
Speaker 1: it's like resurrecting, you know, an all time great player.
Speaker 1: That's impressive. But beating the Lions with Malik Willis they're
Speaker 1: big underdog at home, which was a number that jumped
Speaker 1: out to me right away when I just looked at
Speaker 1: the board yesterday. It's like, I know there's some questionmarks
Speaker 1: with this quarterback, but you're telling me you're getting the
Speaker 1: floor plus three and a half at home. I saw
Speaker 1: a staff today like as a he's like seventeen and
Speaker 1: four in situations of over a field goal, so he's
Speaker 1: covering the spread like Laflor's got a little tom unto
Speaker 1: him when you kind of bet against the Packers and
Speaker 1: some of these regular season games. Everyone you know. Goff
Speaker 1: hurt his ankle last week, didn't practice on Wednesday, but
Speaker 1: looks like he's gonna practice on Thursday. I mean, they
Speaker 1: just won a game where he threw for eighty five
Speaker 1: yards and they scored fifty two points, which I don't
Speaker 1: expect them to do with the Packers, but this is
Speaker 1: a freaking awesome game. Who would have thought two years
Speaker 1: ago when Jared Goff outplayed Aaron Rodgers on Sunday Night
Speaker 1: Football and knocked the Green Bay Packers out of the
Speaker 1: playoffs and was the last game that Aaron Rodgers ever
Speaker 1: played for the Green Bay Packers, would a couple of
Speaker 1: years later we'd be looking back and they'd be this good. Now.
Speaker 1: Part of that is they've nailed some draft picks. Some
Speaker 1: of the players that were already on their team are
Speaker 1: even better. Obviously Gough has only improved, but I sure,
Speaker 1: you know. It's the cool part about the NFL is
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear as the season goes like this is
Speaker 1: a big time matchup and sometimes games I remember I
Speaker 1: was so excited everyone in my life. You know, I
Speaker 1: have so many Niner people in my life, Niners, Ravens.
Speaker 1: Christmas Night, it was like, God, this is badass. And
Speaker 1: then the Niners got housed. You're like, that sucked. We've
Speaker 1: been waiting all week, everyone's been talking about this Christmas Eve,
Speaker 1: Christmas Day, and then you watch You're like, this can't
Speaker 1: really be happening. It's like, yeah, it's sports. You just
Speaker 1: never quite know, and sometimes you get this moments like
Speaker 1: this is badass. It's happened a lot with the Chiefs
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. They've played in just some great games.
Speaker 1: I hope this game lives up to the hype, and
Speaker 1: I hope Green Bay, however, their quarterback situation plays out
Speaker 1: that Lafloor can have another Picasso type moment and give
Speaker 1: his team a chance, because if Malik Willis plays and
Speaker 1: they lose by you know, multiple touchdowns. I don't think
Speaker 1: anyone will really be the critical of the Packers. If
Speaker 1: Love plays and he's compromised, I kind of think the
Speaker 1: same thing. But if he's playing and looking good physically,
Speaker 1: I just hope the Packer defense can just come to
Speaker 1: play and we can get a real good game, because
Speaker 1: this could be it's I mean, it's definitely on the
Speaker 1: table of an NFC championship of a divisional round, like
Speaker 1: we're probably getting these teams playing depending on how the
Speaker 1: seating shakes out, because only one team can win the division.
Speaker 1: These teams playing three times and even without seeing the
Speaker 1: matchup yet this year, sign me up for that. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's bang out a couple male bag questions. You guys
Speaker 1: know the drill at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff is
Speaker 1: the Instagram fire in those dms and get your question
Speaker 1: answered here on the show. Do you think Ben Johnson
Speaker 1: regrets not taking the commander job. It's a good question.
Speaker 1: I actually haven't heard anyone bring this up. I don't
Speaker 1: know how that wouldn't cross his mind all the time, right,
Speaker 1: everyone keeps saying he's going to be a hot candidate
Speaker 1: this offseason, which he is. I mean, people are gonna
Speaker 1: interview him, but it didn't get that much better than
Speaker 1: that opportunity. Now looking back, right, it's like, oh, well
Speaker 1: the Bears fire him? One is that who the Bears
Speaker 1: are going to hire? Like Ryan Poles is going to
Speaker 1: hire him over a Mike Vrabel type. I don't know. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Kevin Warren will have a say two, but right now
Speaker 1: we've got a long way to go. Your career is
Speaker 1: not written, but it's jayde Daniels still going to get better.
Speaker 1: And to me, he's on a different level than Caleb.
Speaker 1: Now you can say he's got Cliff, This dude's got Waldron.
Speaker 1: But if you told me you could have one job
Speaker 1: or the other, I think we would all choose that job.
Speaker 1: As it's SAMs today, and just in general, let's just
Speaker 1: say the Bears isn't an option for him. You know
Speaker 1: the Jags like, do you want to coach Trevor Lawrence?
Speaker 1: You want to tie yourself for that guy making two
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. It's looking back, pretty incredible opportunity for
Speaker 1: any coach. You know, dan Quinn's career may be completely
Speaker 1: changed and he's been lucky. Right his last job, he
Speaker 1: had Matt Ryan in the peak of his powers, and
Speaker 1: he had some really, really good years. But now he's
Speaker 1: got this guy who's twenty three years old and clearly
Speaker 1: really mature, physically gifted, good on the field, like, kind
Speaker 1: of checks every box. So if you turn that job
Speaker 1: down and ultimately you do aspire to be a head coach,
Speaker 1: who knows maybe he just wants to be a lifelong coordinator,
Speaker 1: make four or five million dollars, I don't know. Not
Speaker 1: a bad gig, but you'd have to have a couple
Speaker 1: sleepless nights. Right question for the bag Rader fan here?
Speaker 1: With the trade deadline approaching, I have a thought, did
Speaker 1: the Rooney rule kill the ability to trade for a coach?
Speaker 1: After watching what the Packers head coach has been able
Speaker 1: to do this season with Malik Willis, I have to
Speaker 1: ask myself, what is that coach worth? I think I
Speaker 1: would trade two first round picks for a coach like that.
Speaker 1: Do you think the NFL would reevaluate the Rooney rule
Speaker 1: or would getting rid of that rule bring much backlash
Speaker 1: from the media. I also think that it would be
Speaker 1: sweet if you could trade for coordinators too. How much
Speaker 1: would the OC for the Lions be worth? Can you
Speaker 1: imagine a headline like New York trades a first round
Speaker 1: pick for Sauce Gardner to the Lions for their offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator to become the new head coach of the Jets. Well,
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. Coordinator you can just hire,
Speaker 1: right if you want the guy to be your head coach,
Speaker 1: he's a coordinator, you can just hire. I think the
Speaker 1: trading for coaches has nothing to do with the Rooney
Speaker 1: rule ultimately, Like why that never happens because one, you know,
Speaker 1: if you go back to Gruden, Al Davis just wouldn't
Speaker 1: pay John Gruden. Like he knew John Gruden was good,
Speaker 1: but he was kind of cheap with coaches. If a
Speaker 1: team had the equivalent of John Gruden and the way
Speaker 1: that team was, they were winning a bunch of games,
Speaker 1: they were in the playoffs, they would just give him
Speaker 1: an extension. The only reason Sean Payton they had to
Speaker 1: trade picks for him because he quit on the team.
Speaker 1: So if I have a coach, like let's say someone
Speaker 1: called me up, like I want Matt Lafleur. I'm the Jets.
Speaker 1: I want Matt Lafleur to be my head coach. Right,
Speaker 1: I'll pay him twenty five million dollars a year if
Speaker 1: I'm the Jets. Well, if you're the Packers, one he's
Speaker 1: under contract, and two like, we want Matt Lafloor as
Speaker 1: our head coach or Sean McVeigh or whoever, Like, we'll
Speaker 1: just pay him a bunch of money and keep him.
Speaker 1: And if he's winning, why would he want to leave?
Speaker 1: The Gruden thing was over money, and the Peytent thing
Speaker 1: was he shorted the roster and wanted out, but couldn't
Speaker 1: just leave because he was under contract. I know he says,
Speaker 1: I needed to reset. Now you quit on the team,
Speaker 1: which is fine, Like, I don't totally blame you. You
Speaker 1: were right, but he clearly didn't want to quit coaching
Speaker 1: because he came back eight months later. So I hear
Speaker 1: what you're saying. It would be cool, but you would
Speaker 1: just keep the coach if he was good, right you
Speaker 1: just Hey, what would it take for us to get
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell? Right? Like, what if you're the Jags, Like,
Speaker 1: I want Dan Campbell, We'll trade you three first round
Speaker 1: picks to the Lions for Dan Campbell. Lions would be
Speaker 1: like I'd just rather have Dan Campbell and keep building
Speaker 1: the team that we have. So it's just it was
Speaker 1: two very unique situations that I almost think are outliers
Speaker 1: to the profession because now with coordinators, I can just
Speaker 1: I just hire you. I don't need a trade for you.
Speaker 1: I was watching the McAfee and they were talking about
Speaker 1: the hard Knocks offseason and joked about this, but maybe
Speaker 1: there's some weight behind it. Everyone makes fun of the
Speaker 1: Giants for what they released and ask how did they
Speaker 1: even approve this? Do you think Mara approved it? Because
Speaker 1: if not signing Saquon backfired on them, it took the
Speaker 1: weight off of him, and he wanted to show everyone
Speaker 1: that it wasn't his decision. I've always thought, because I
Speaker 1: think most people in the league, right if you're a
Speaker 1: coach or you're in the front office that watch that,
Speaker 1: they're like a r I'm not even talking about the
Speaker 1: Marrow moment. I'm just talking about everything. The way day
Speaker 1: Ball and Shane interacted, the way they got ready for
Speaker 1: free agency, the phone calls with the agents. I think
Speaker 1: every GM looked around and looked at like his assistant
Speaker 1: GM and be like, I would you could shoot me
Speaker 1: in the leg before I would allow this to happen.
Speaker 1: And then I thought like hard knocks kind of sucks
Speaker 1: now normal hard knocks. Well, why is that? Because the
Speaker 1: coaches and gms are very sensitive to the players, right,
Speaker 1: they don't want One thing that inspired me to work
Speaker 1: in football way back in the day was the raw
Speaker 1: hard knocks in the early two thousands. You're like, I
Speaker 1: want to be because it was clear. I was like,
Speaker 1: I suck at high school football. I'm never playing that.
Speaker 1: I want to be in one of those meetings where
Speaker 1: everyone's just talking shit and just talking about the team.
Speaker 1: And I remember the first time I ever got invited
Speaker 1: to the meeting at training camp in Philly, I was like,
Speaker 1: I've made it because it's a pretty raw meeting. Actually,
Speaker 1: ours and Philly weren't really that crazy, but I remember
Speaker 1: there were a couple like Baltimore or some of the
Speaker 1: early ones. It was like, God, this is this is nuts.
Speaker 1: Well we don't get that anymore. And the only thing
Speaker 1: you do get is like.
Speaker 4: Yay, he's really coming on. We're really working on that footwork.
Speaker 4: I think little Mikey's got a chance to make the squad.
Speaker 4: It used to be like this guy sucks, this guy's awful.
Speaker 4: Fuck this guy cut him.
Speaker 1: Now my unit sucks. They're like Jesus, this is how
Speaker 1: they talk though, that's still how they talk. We just
Speaker 1: don't get access to it. You kind of got that
Speaker 1: version with hard knocks up free agency, and it looked
Speaker 1: like this is not in my experience, that was not
Speaker 1: the case. It was a very laid out plan you
Speaker 1: meet forever. It just felt very like willy nilly, And
Speaker 1: my theory's always been John Morrill wanted that out to
Speaker 1: show like, this is what we're doing. So if I
Speaker 1: have to fire these guys again, don't call me like
Speaker 1: Al Davis twenty ten. I'm not just firing guys every
Speaker 1: other year like this is what I try to hire.
Speaker 1: The right guys from Buffalo, they were winning. All was
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's guy. Shane was Brandon Bean's guy. Smart, good
Speaker 1: looking guy, good you know, family looks the part, just
Speaker 1: skinny in shape. It just seems smart. But it might suck.
Speaker 1: I don't know. So Yeah, I've always thought John Morrow
Speaker 1: wanted it out there. And I'm not just talking about
Speaker 1: the Philly comment. I'm talking about the whole thing, because
Speaker 1: that was that sent shock waves around football. Hell is
Speaker 1: shot waves around just fans. You're like, is this serious
Speaker 1: right now? Is this? Am I really watching this? I
Speaker 1: remember thinking in the in the off season, no way,
Speaker 1: I'm watching the Giants hard Knocks. This is gonna be
Speaker 1: so boring. And I remember I saw something someone talking
Speaker 1: about him, like I was in Tahoe on vacation. It's
Speaker 1: like I need something to watch. It was like eight
Speaker 1: o'clock at night, and I'm like, I just threw it on,
Speaker 1: and I remember, like I can't miss another one of
Speaker 1: these episodes kind of came out of nowhere.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Maybe not a question for your mailbag, but wondering your
Speaker 1: take as a former scout. Someone tells it like it is.
Speaker 1: I see a lot of criticism on Richardson's benching, But
Speaker 1: why is it assumed by so many that just because
Speaker 1: he was picked fourth overall that if he just gets
Speaker 1: more time, more playing time, he will develop. If that
Speaker 1: were the case, couldn't you take any great athlete and
Speaker 1: make them a good quarterback. I watch a guy like
Speaker 1: Party processes to play quickly and make the read. I
Speaker 1: know coaches can simplify reading a defense, but it seems
Speaker 1: to me part of what part of that is someone's
Speaker 1: natural born skills. For example, some people you show a
Speaker 1: flashcard to and they immediately recall and visualize the answer.
Speaker 1: But you can't teach someone to visualize. As you know,
Speaker 1: I've written you saying I think Richardson would always be
Speaker 1: a bust. What I see him as a guy who
Speaker 1: locks onto one read, is inaccurate, indecisive, doesn't set up
Speaker 1: well with his feet, and puts the team in bad positions.
Speaker 1: And I see no improvement from him. So why do
Speaker 1: people assume with more playing time he will get better.
Speaker 1: I think he might show a little improvement, but I
Speaker 1: just don't see him being a starting quarterback because the
Speaker 1: only way to improve when you are a raw product
Speaker 1: is to play. Now, you are correct, Just because you
Speaker 1: play does not mean you're gonna be good, no matter
Speaker 1: how much talent you have. Right, So it is an unknown.
Speaker 1: It's why so many of these high draft picks bust,
Speaker 1: because so many of them at all these positions. Something's
Speaker 1: missing for some guys just work ethic study habits. They
Speaker 1: don't you know, they don't understand football, and it's too
Speaker 1: fast for him. Some offensive linemen they're just not strong
Speaker 1: enough for they're not fast enough for quarterbacks. It's usually
Speaker 1: like I can't process because it's by far the hardest
Speaker 1: thing to do in sports. Definitely in football. It's just
Speaker 1: be a good quarterback. But the only way to improve
Speaker 1: on processing is to play. But you are correct, just
Speaker 1: because you play does not mean processing will improve. So
Speaker 1: remember they took a swing for the fences. They were
Speaker 1: not trying to hit like a Kirk Cousin's double. They
Speaker 1: were trying to get Cam Newton meets Josh Allen. It's
Speaker 1: what they were hoping for. Jalen hurts right most times,
Speaker 1: like there's hasn't been too many Cam Newton's. So you're
Speaker 1: watching him and you go, yeah, this is a problem.
Speaker 1: I would tend to agree. As we sit here right now.
Speaker 1: You can tell me he's twenty two. You can tell
Speaker 1: me he hasn't played. I would bet on him not
Speaker 1: being good. I would bet on him not having a
Speaker 1: fuel four playing because when do they Let's say Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco starts for the rest of the season, stays healthy,
Speaker 1: and they win ten or eleven games and they make
Speaker 1: the playoffs, Well, what do you do next year? Did
Speaker 1: you what the Browns just did and not resigned Flacco
Speaker 1: to another one year ten million dollar deal. Do you
Speaker 1: just make Anthony Rigesson the starter? What do you tell
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor? Yeah, man, I know a sweet winning those
Speaker 1: games and making the playoffs, and hell, we almost want
Speaker 1: a playoff game with Flacco tie game in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna go back to that other day because
Speaker 1: we drafted him fourth overall. Do you think Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 1: or Michael Pittman, who's literally playing through injuries, or their
Speaker 1: core guys on defense, give a shit. They're in a
Speaker 1: bad spot. Now, they're in the Trey Lance spot. Now
Speaker 1: this guy's better than Trey Lance, which shows you how
Speaker 1: low the bar is. But if this goes well, if
Speaker 1: Flacco sucks and they end up winning eight games, or
Speaker 1: Flacco is just up and down, and it's like it's
Speaker 1: easy to go back to him. But if they end
Speaker 1: up with double digit wins and are a wild card team, like,
Speaker 1: no one's gonna want to see Anthony Richardson next year.
Speaker 1: No one on the team cares that he drafts him
Speaker 1: forth overall. And the only chance you have for him
Speaker 1: that not to be a wasted pick is to have
Speaker 1: him play and improve. And I think it's pretty clear
Speaker 1: when you watch him talk. I heard. I was listening
Speaker 1: to Rousillo had Albert Breeran and he says, you know,
Speaker 1: you talk to people in the building. He's a pretty
Speaker 1: naive kid. And I think when you saw him talk
Speaker 1: after the game, I don't even think he didn't realize
Speaker 1: what he didn't realize even the day on Wednesday morning,
Speaker 1: just his I don't even think he quite understands what's
Speaker 1: going on. Right. And I've seen a lot of people
Speaker 1: with a lot of theories like we're in the AAU culture.
Speaker 1: You just quit what you want, Like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't see any quarterbacks in college is
Speaker 1: just tapping their helmet. I don't see Carson Beck when
Speaker 1: shit's hitting the fan, like asking Kirby Smart to come out, Like,
Speaker 1: I think this guy's a little overwhelmed. He's not very good,
Speaker 1: he's exhausted, he's out of shape, he's not accurate. Teams
Speaker 1: struggling when he's playing that.
Speaker 4: He just.
Speaker 1: More often than not, when you do swing for the
Speaker 1: fences at quarterback in the NFL, it does not turn
Speaker 1: into Josh Allen, does not. I mean Cam Newton wasn't
Speaker 1: swing for that. He was the number one pick. But
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I would say this, and
Speaker 1: again this is low bar here. If you told me tomorrow,
Speaker 1: I can either have Anthony Richardson or Bryce Young, both
Speaker 1: guys who have been benched. Bryce is now playing because
Speaker 1: Dalton got in the car accident, but if Dalton was healthy,
Speaker 1: Bryce would still be on the bench. I think every
Speaker 1: single human in the league, and I would imagine ninety
Speaker 1: nine percent of fans you just still take Anthony Richardson
Speaker 1: because there is some stuff there. I do think. I
Speaker 1: think sometimes accuracy is a little innate, like do you
Speaker 1: have any touch? Like clearly Josh Allen, I wouldn't call him,
Speaker 1: you know, Drew Brees, but when he's on, like he's
Speaker 1: got a lot of touch with just lollipop throws and
Speaker 1: wheel routes, like he's he's really really improved there. You
Speaker 1: watch Anthony Richardson, it's like, I don't know, he feels
Speaker 1: like a pitcher in the minor leagues's throwing one hundred
Speaker 1: miles an hour, does not have another pitch and has
Speaker 1: no clue where the pitch is going. It's so yeah,
Speaker 1: you can strike a guy out on three pitches down
Speaker 1: the middle, or he could hit a guy in the
Speaker 1: chin and break his jaw, you know, or throw the
Speaker 1: ball behind the guy. He's like, man, I wasn't trying
Speaker 1: to hitch. I was trying to throw aside an outside slider.
Speaker 1: I think he's got no clue what's going on, which
Speaker 1: is pretty scary if you're Chris Baaler and those are
Speaker 1: the type things that get people fired. You know a
Speaker 1: lot of people defend this crew, but that the type
Speaker 1: move you swung for the fences you've been waiting forever.
Speaker 1: You kind of tank the season to end up there.
Speaker 1: That year you had the fourth overall pick, and this
Speaker 1: guy stinks. You know. Part of the reason it did
Speaker 1: not torpedo the forty nine ers is because they never
Speaker 1: stopped winning. So the pick was a disaster. They wasted
Speaker 1: all those first round picks that would help them literally
Speaker 1: right now, but they've just won. I mean, they're a
Speaker 1: disaster right now. They're four and four. But the last
Speaker 1: two years with Trey Lance, right, I guess is this
Speaker 1: is fourth year, three years Trey Lance have been in
Speaker 1: the league. First year NFC Championship Game, second year NFC
Speaker 1: Championship Game, third year Super Bowl. So it's like you
Speaker 1: can't It's like no one really cares. But it's like
Speaker 1: you look at the Colts, like, what have you done
Speaker 1: since Anthony Richardson. It's like, oh, we missed the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Damn you were that but we were right in until
Speaker 1: the end. It's like, oh, he was that good. Oh
Speaker 1: actually he didn't play Gardner Minchew did, so yeah, we're
Speaker 1: right the playoff mix again, It's like, oh, how's he playing?
Speaker 1: Actually we had to bench him for Joe Flacco. Like
Speaker 1: you just start kind of saying it out loud. You're like, ugh,
Speaker 1: this is a problem, and a pretty big one because
Speaker 1: unlike the Niners who kind of lucked into party, I mean,
Speaker 1: Flacco is gonna turn forty in January. It's fun to
Speaker 1: talk about him and watch them, but it's not really.
Speaker 1: I mean, it could end at any moment. Plus, he
Speaker 1: can't move like he could get hurt. Okay, last question.
Speaker 1: Let's say all the non head coach offensive play call
Speaker 1: callers in football would be up for draft night this second.
Speaker 1: In this imaginary play caller draft, which OC's would go
Speaker 1: one through ten? In your opinion, I mean, I would
Speaker 1: say that, you know, the best offensive coordinators in the
Speaker 1: league are are head coaches, right McVeigh, Kyle Lafleur Andy,
Speaker 1: I'm sure really missing people. Who else is good? Ravens,
Speaker 1: no Bills, No, okay, who Let's just do the top five.
Speaker 1: I would say Ben Johnson would be very very high
Speaker 1: up there. I would say the Ravens and Todd Munkin
Speaker 1: would be very very high up there. I would say
Speaker 1: one guy who has come screaming up the charts would
Speaker 1: be Joe Brady with the Buffalo Bills. I would say
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell's a head coach. Shane Waldron definitely not. I
Speaker 1: think I know he's having a rough stretch. I think
Speaker 1: Bobby Slowick would be pretty high up there, given what
Speaker 1: he did last year. That's a good question. So I
Speaker 1: would say Ben Johnson would go first. I would imagine
Speaker 1: Todd Munkin would go second. This is a good question.
Speaker 1: I would imagine Joe Brady would go in the top five.
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, know you know Greg Roman. Everyone hates him,
Speaker 1: but I think he's pretty good. Cleveland, no Vegas, no Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: no Patriots, no Jets, hell no. I'd say, you know
Speaker 1: another guy flying up the charts who's a McVeigh guy
Speaker 1: is Zach Robinson in Atlanta. The Arizona guy. Is it
Speaker 1: Drew Pezzing. Is he the defensive coordinator the offensive coordator?
Speaker 1: I think their offensive coordinator is the bald guy. I
Speaker 1: think he's doing a pretty good job. Really, not that
Speaker 1: many coaches, you know, Kubiak not going great with Spencer
Speaker 1: Rattler and Jake Hayner. Mainly Rattler not my guy. Hater.
Speaker 1: He doesn't even get to start, like, hey, guys, can
Speaker 1: you start? Hanter? That was a little off the wall.
Speaker 1: Good question, that's what podcasts are for. Last question here,
Speaker 1: interested in your opinion how poorly run the Carolina Panthers are.
Speaker 1: That Deontay Johnson trade is horrendous negotiating in management. They
Speaker 1: traded a guy who clearly was one of the best
Speaker 1: receivers who's available right now for essentially fifteen picks. They're
Speaker 1: doing a pick swap from like this, I think the
Speaker 1: sixth to the fifth round with the Ravens. I keep
Speaker 1: seeing fifteen picks. I guess there are comp picks in
Speaker 1: that round. That's what changes it. So yeah, I think
Speaker 1: sometimes we overvalue some of these guys, right, Like Keenan
Speaker 1: Allen goes for a fourth rounder, DeVante Adams goes for
Speaker 1: a third rounder. You know, Marii Cooper goes for a
Speaker 1: third rounder they're not getting. Should they have just got
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick? Yeah? Should they have to flop
Speaker 1: picks to make a trade, like, say, Baltimore, this guy, Like,
Speaker 1: do you want this player in your team? We're not.
Speaker 1: We're giving you the player nothing else. So you give
Speaker 1: us a pick, we give you the player. That's the deal, right,
Speaker 1: I got a cheeseburger, you got five dollars. You give
Speaker 1: me five dollars. I give you the cheeseburger. It's not
Speaker 1: like I have to give you the cheeseburger. You give
Speaker 1: me five dollars and I give you an extra dollar.
Speaker 1: Like what the pick swap thing? I don't quite get that,
Speaker 1: Like just tell them no, like we're not. We'd rather
Speaker 1: just keep the player then, which makes me think, I
Speaker 1: mean the Steelers got rid of him. Can this guy
Speaker 1: be a little bit of pain? There might be more
Speaker 1: to that. Maybe this team is brat Joe Brady is OC,
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, Brian Burns, DJ Moore, Curtis, Samuel and Darnold
Speaker 1: and Baker all within the last four years and probably
Speaker 1: and is probably the worst roster of my lifetime. That's
Speaker 1: pretty crazy. Thing about Joe Brady now top five pick
Speaker 1: on this fake OC draft. McCaffrey went healthy, is one
Speaker 1: of the best players in the league. Brian Burns actually
Speaker 1: pretty good. I'd be lying if I said I watched
Speaker 1: that much Panthers the last couple of years, but watch
Speaker 1: them on the Giants. Good player. DJ Moore's a stud. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. I mean, it sucks, man,
Speaker 1: it really does. It's gonna be you know, the only
Speaker 1: way to get out of a hole is to drop
Speaker 1: the shovel. So it's like they just got to stop
Speaker 1: digging themselves deeper. And this year there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 1: This year, I would trade any player on my team
Speaker 1: that had any value. I would completely start over, which
Speaker 1: sucks to hear, but it's just kind of the reality
Speaker 1: of where you guys are right now. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone, audios, have a great day, night or morning.
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