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We appreciate you making us 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: a part of your Tuesday morning and we are often 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: running hour two of the program here and it is 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: Depth Chart season in the NFL. Was that a big deal, 20 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: like a big reveal for you guys like the program 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: back in the day when the Depth Chart would come 22 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: out and everybody get all fired up, or is this 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: sort of you kind of already figured it out with 24 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: the reps that you get in the teams and units 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: that you're working with in training, camp and practice. It's 26 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: more kind of just from you big reveal to the media, 27 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: not not so much the guys that are out there. 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: It depends I was going to say. 29 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: I felt like my most exciting moments was when I 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: didn't know if I was going to be a starter 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: or not, not the years that I knew I was 32 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: a starter, Like when I got to college, Like what 33 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: was that like to even possibly get on the field, 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: no matter what capacity. So if it was special teams, 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: it was like, dang, like look at all the people. 36 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: There's like there's realities, like real realities that you have 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: when you play the game. And if you're fortunate enough 38 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: to make it to the next level from playing high school, 39 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: unless you played in Texas somewhere and you play at 40 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: one of those big schools. To come out of a 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: locker room and to have the opportunity to go on 42 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: the field with all of those people there, that's just 43 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a life changing experience. So those 44 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: those practices leading up to the first time, hell, I 45 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: can remember the first practices leading up to me getting 46 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: my first start, in my first start in college was 47 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: against Ohio State, and it's interesting coming into the season, 48 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know if I would be able to get 49 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: the job. When the job off of Aaron Gatton, who 50 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: was ahead of me, and the first three games of 51 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: the year we played who was it? 52 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: We played. 53 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: Like Southern Miss or now I wasn't Southern Miss. I 54 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: don't remember the games before. I just remember the Pittsburgh 55 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: game was the third game and how that went for me, 56 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: and then getting getting put on the first team that 57 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: following week leading up to going into Big Ten was. 58 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: Pretty pretty special. 59 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: Man. 60 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: So I feel like when you don't start and you're 61 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: you're not knowing you're going to start, and you're trying 62 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: to fight for it, I feel like that's way more 63 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: intense and way more of an interesting moment in your 64 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: time than when you know you're the starter. 65 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: Southern Miss, bowling Green at pit yeah, where you go 66 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: there was Southern Miss? 67 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, there you go and Bowling Green yeah yeah. 68 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: I think it goes without saying if there's no intrigue, 69 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 4: it doesn't make it quite as interesting. You know, you're 70 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: you're you're working on different things at that point. But 71 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 4: to me, I mean that that's what makes it interesting, 72 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 4: is no matter how the depth chart, especially in preseason. 73 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 4: I mean, it used to be different when we played 74 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 4: because you played four preseason games and so there was 75 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 4: a bit more time if something were to happen. But 76 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: for the most part, the depth chart was the depth 77 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 4: chart in part because of what you're getting paid to. Like, 78 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 4: that's one consideration. When you look at the Browns, for example, 79 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 4: and you look at the financial commitment they've made to 80 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 4: all four of those guys, Flacco is going to be 81 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 4: getting paid the lion's share of where they're allocating, you know, 82 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 4: their salary cap to the quarterback position. This year, I 83 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 4: think Pickett's making a little over two million on you know, 84 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 4: the deal that he's under, and then you've got a 85 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: third round of fifth round pick. So none of those 86 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 4: guys are making a substantial money, at least non comparison 87 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 4: to Flacco, who I believe is making close to eight, nine, ten, 88 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 4: whatever it was. So there's there's a economics to it too. 89 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 4: At the NFL level that plays a factor, and quite 90 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: honestly it's at college now too. You know, when a 91 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 4: kid transfers in and even though we don't have transparency 92 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 4: because we can't see, you know, what these kids are making. 93 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 4: We hear sometimes what they're making, and you know, some 94 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 4: of that's inflated just to make the school look like 95 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 4: they're really shelling out the big bucks. But the reality 96 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 4: is that kid's probably going to be starting. 97 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: Right. 98 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 4: You could say there's a quarterback competition, there's this, there's that. 99 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 4: There's a reason why they brought that kid in. They 100 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 4: brought him in because the coach doesn't want to deal 101 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 4: with an unproven, younger guy playing at the college level. 102 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 4: That's just the reality of it, because they don't want 103 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 4: to have to go through the growing pains, especially if 104 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 4: they're a blue blood program that has made the playoff 105 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: or is expected to make the playoff. They don't want 106 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 4: to take a step back and then don't have to 107 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 4: worry about going through the growing pains of figuring out 108 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 4: whether or not a guy can do it. Now. 109 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: Look as someone. 110 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 4: Who started as a true freshman, you know, played in 111 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 4: every game, and I remember that first game we're playing 112 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 4: Washington State as a top twenty five team my freshman year, 113 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 4: I wasn't even fully aware that I had, you know, 114 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 4: won the backup job until a day or two before 115 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 4: the game. You know, it wasn't overly evident or clear 116 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: to me. I didn't think that i'd played that well 117 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 4: enough in training camp my freshman year to be the guy. 118 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 4: But you know, beat out one guy he ended up transferring, 119 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 4: had another guy there who was a you know, upperclassman 120 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 4: who had played, and and you know they end up, 121 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 4: you know, putting me as the backup. And so I thought, okay, 122 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 4: like that's obviously an indication of how they feel about me. 123 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: But now it just comes down to what I can 124 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 4: do once I get on the field. So yeah, I mean, 125 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 4: it goes without saying if there's if you're the start, 126 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 4: I mean, you don't care about a depth start at 127 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 4: that point, you know, But it really does come down 128 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 4: to to me. The money to all of it, Like, 129 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 4: especially in professional sports, they're gonna give the guy who 130 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 4: they've invested the most, paid the most into that first crack, 131 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 4: that first shot at it, and then after that you're 132 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 4: kind of wait and see. 133 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: Well, in Indianapolis, we've got co QB one's Anthony Richardson 134 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: and Daniel Jones both listed as QB one. So you 135 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,679 Speaker 2: got to pick your guy. You got to pick your fighter. 136 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: Who you going with? Daniel Jones is your starter to 137 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: kick off the year or Anthony Richardson. If it is 138 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: about the money invested, there's a high draft pick investment there, 139 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: I'll roll with Daniel Jones. You guys gonna have fun 140 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: with Anthony Richardson if you'd like, I'll take Daniel Jones. 141 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 4: It's a really tough situation to be in if you're 142 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 4: Chris Ballard and Shane Stichen for this reason, this is 143 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: the guy you drafted like, this is the guy you 144 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 4: took in the first round. He's going into year three 145 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 4: and you know they still after they after this year, 146 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 4: have to make a decision on his fifth year option. 147 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: So as it currently stands, you know, there he's guaranteed 148 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 4: to make thirty three almost basically thirty four million dollars 149 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: in this four year deal. So when you look at 150 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: the investment, they've invested that fourth overall pick and a 151 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 4: lot of money into him. However, you know, has that 152 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 4: come to an end because of the lack of I 153 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: don't know if you want to call it maturity, the 154 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 4: lack of performance consistency, you know, lack of peanup is 155 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 4: just be durable enough to stay on the field, all 156 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 4: those things that become an issue. What's interesting the most 157 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 4: to me though, is the ownership change with Jim Orse 158 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 4: passing away, and even though it stays within the Face family, 159 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 4: he's not the one they're calling shots now. You know, 160 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 4: his daughter's taken over, and that group's going to have 161 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 4: to make a decision on a GM who they have 162 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 4: not had any success winning the division since he got there, 163 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 4: and a head coach who I think is a bright 164 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 4: offensive mind but has been hamstrung by you know, the 165 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: quarterback situation. So this is one of the more complicated 166 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 4: QB decisions. And I think if you're Shansichin like your 167 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 4: big concern is how do you keep the entire team 168 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 4: cohesive and not allowed the locker room to get divided 169 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 4: if there's any divide whatsoever. I mean, it felt like 170 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 4: being there at the end of last year, there wasn't 171 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 4: so much division because of what Anthony Richardson did earlier 172 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 4: in the year. Like guys like Anthony Richardson, but there's 173 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 4: a lot of older guys who are on that team 174 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 4: who played and they're saying themselves, man, you can't tap 175 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: out of a play, you know, like you just you 176 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 4: can't do that, and I think there was a learning 177 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 4: curve there for Anthony Richardson. I think he's learned from that. 178 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 4: But that's what prompted bringing we got like Daniel Jones 179 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 4: in because they still see upside the SeeAbility, you know, 180 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 4: Shane Steckin sees his attributes able to fit into this 181 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 4: offense in a really, really big way. So I'm gonna 182 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 4: lead towards Anthony Richardson getting the first shot, but I 183 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: think there's a chance that that rugg gets ripped from 184 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 4: out underneath him very fast. 185 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we don't really know what Anthony Richardson 186 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: is going to be as a pro player just yet. 187 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: I think we know we have a strong idea of 188 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: what we think it could be and what maybe it 189 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: is with Daniel Jones. So if I'm the Colts, I 190 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: definitely want to see unless unless Anthony Richardson has done 191 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: something in training camp and leading up to training camp 192 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: and in the OTAs in the mini camp that would 193 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: say his play is in such question to the to 194 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: the coaching staff that we're going to go with Daniel Jones. 195 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: I just don't think you make the decision to go 196 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: with Jones knowing what you saw him come from. You know, 197 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: I listen, he's a pretty decent quarterback. He's had pretty 198 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: decent moments as a quarterback. But I don't think anyone 199 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: would would say that, Wow, I feel like I've changed 200 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: the the trajectory of my team by adding Daniel Jones 201 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: as our starting quarterback or as our quarterback. So I 202 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: don't know that he moves the needle. I would say, 203 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: I lean on the side he doesn't really move the needle. 204 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: But does Anthony Richardson move the needle? He hasn't proven 205 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: that he he he doesn't. He just hasn't proven that 206 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: he has. So I feel like starting out, you drafted him. 207 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: He's your guy. Let him play himself out of the position, 208 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, because it's not like with Daniel Jones. You're 209 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: using a guy that you know, you feel, you know, 210 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: overly confident coming into it that he's going to change 211 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: your team that much differently than what Anthony Richardson is 212 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: going to do being there already. 213 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: Well in the same division, the AFC South. We've got 214 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: other depth chart news, this time with the Jacksonville Jaguars, 215 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: where Travis Hunter listed as a wide receiver one and 216 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: a cornerback two for the Jacksonville Jaguars. His head coach 217 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: Liam Cohene talked about his rookie with The Rich Eisen 218 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: Show yesterday. 219 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 5: He has taken massive strides, specifically at the receiver position 220 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 5: of truly playing it right, how to run each route, 221 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 5: how to attack leverage. His ball skills and body control 222 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 5: are extremely natural, so you can't really coach that what 223 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 5: he's been able to learn and getting aligned assignments, fundamentals, techniques, 224 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 5: and then when you go into a scrimmage and he 225 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 5: gets one on one on a choice route and he's 226 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 5: got a linebacker on him and he. 227 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 4: Can make you miss. 228 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 5: Ultimately, for him, it's really going to come down to, 229 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 5: like offensively and defensively, we've done more offense because that 230 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 5: was where more the development was necessary, right, so much 231 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 5: more naturally to just go walk out in the field 232 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 5: and play corner like that's. 233 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 3: What he's done. 234 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 5: He can go do that very similarly. Now there's a 235 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 5: lot of checks, there's a lot of calls, there's a 236 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 5: lot of different things that go to that. But offensively, 237 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 5: we felt like there was a little bit more development 238 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 5: that was necessary, and it's a lot more ball, right, 239 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 5: just a lot more scheme and words and call. 240 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: So that was Liam Cohen talking about Travis Hunter's development. 241 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: By the way, he also said that he believes that 242 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: it's there's a chance that he could win Offensive and 243 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: Defensive Rookie of the Year. I think we're getting a 244 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: little ahead of ourselves. But nonetheless that's the opinion that Travis. 245 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 4: Let me throw that back at you guys. Let me 246 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 4: throw it back at you guys, because there was an argument, 247 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 4: to me made that his ability to play as many 248 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: snaps as he did in college helped him get the highs. 249 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that that's why he wanted I know 250 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 4: there's some people who feel that way. 251 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: I don't. 252 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 4: But do you think that will play a factor too 253 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 4: at the NFL level? Because it was so rare at 254 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 4: the college level, people looked at that and said, no, 255 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 4: this is significant. Now you're jumping up to the highest level. 256 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 4: And if he's able to do it at that level, 257 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 4: wouldn't you say he'd kind of get the benefit of 258 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 4: the doubt, where if statistically he's not as close to 259 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 4: some guys, there will be that conversation of yeah, but 260 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 4: he is playing both ways. 261 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say he's going to get the benefit 262 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: of the doubt. And again, I think the one thing 263 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: that people aren't paying attention to that I'm paying attention 264 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: to day one, Like day one I'm paying attention to, 265 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: is if he pulls this off and he is listed 266 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: on the depth chart as a second or first string 267 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: on offense, a second or first string on defense, there 268 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: you go. When we get the contract time, what is 269 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: that going to look like. I'm sorry, it's just got 270 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: to be. It's gotta be talked about. If he establishes 271 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: that he is playing a roster position on offense and 272 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: a roster position on defense, and let's just say he 273 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: gets Rookie of the Year on both sides of the ball. 274 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: Let's just say, moving into the future, he's looked at 275 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: as an all Pro offensive player and an all Pro 276 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: defensive player. 277 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: What do you think they're going to do. So if 278 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: the market at that point is forty million for a 279 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: wide receiver, forty million for a cornerback, he should get 280 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: eighty million. I mean, I don't. 281 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: Know that he gets based upon how many plays he's playing, 282 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: based upon the production, but let's just say for the 283 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: sake of saying he's elite at both positions. 284 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: Talk about bang for your buck, talk about bang free 285 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: because I'm not. I'm not. 286 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: You gotta do two contracts? I mean, how do you 287 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: not you gotta do the contract? 288 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: How does that work? 289 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: That's what I'm That's that's the most curiosity I have 290 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: towards the Travis under situation outside of can it work? 291 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: Can he be a guy that's on the depth chart 292 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: that is truly playing not just spot duty. I'm saying 293 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: truly is an option and truly is playing and could 294 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: actually like be a pro bowler and all pro on 295 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. How do you how do 296 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: you handle that financially coming out of your rookie contract? 297 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: Because he did I mean going into his rookie contract. 298 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: He did the contract as a one way player. But 299 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: yet he's gonna play two ways. So you're getting more 300 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: bang for your buck already having him on your your 301 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: roster already. So how does that play out? Do you 302 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: come back to the table and say, Okay, I've established 303 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: that I can be elite on both sides of the ball. 304 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: You're gonna pay me for being on both sides of 305 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: the ball. What does that look like? I mean, talk to. 306 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: The contract experts, talk to the insider bredon Quinn. 307 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, he'll get a premium, but he's 308 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 4: still got to do that first. Like this is, you know, 309 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: three years down the road conversation. 310 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: I just how many more in a game? What's the 311 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: difference in the number of plays between college and the NFL? Like, 312 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: on offensive do. 313 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 4: You probably play on average in college a higher number. 314 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 4: I'd say each side somewhere seventy plus maybe maybe eighty 315 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 4: depending on the scheme and system. So you're probably playing 316 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 4: about thirty forty more snaps a game. NFL is a 317 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 4: little less somewhere in the sixties, so only just because 318 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 4: of the running clock, which plays a bit more of 319 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 4: a factor there. 320 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: So then if we're looking at you know, he did 321 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: it both ways for eleven games. Now it's seventeen. But 322 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: if you were to factor in less number of plays 323 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: per game, yeah, maybe it is possible. 324 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 4: It's it's definitely possible, and he's going to try to 325 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 4: do it. What never gets factored into this is the 326 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 4: intensity of it. It's the highest level of football. There 327 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 4: you go, and so you know you're playing, you're playing, 328 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 4: you know, not necessarily as many snaps, but the snaps 329 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 4: you are playing are significantly a greater toll in your body, 330 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 4: and he's going up against guys who, you know, when 331 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 4: you're playing in the Big twelve, you know you're not 332 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 4: playing every single play, And honestly, at that level, he 333 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 4: probably wasn't being targeted quite as much. You know, he 334 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 4: probably wasn't seeing a whole lot of throws his way, 335 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 4: with the exception of a few teams, few players who 336 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 4: you know they weren't scared of him, or they thought 337 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 4: he could match up, or they want to test him. 338 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 4: In the NFL, he will be tested right off the 339 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 4: bat every single time he gets in there. And it's 340 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 4: not he's not going to have his easy releases. You know, 341 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 4: there'll be more guys who want to press and get 342 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 4: up on him and get hands on him before he 343 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 4: gets started running downfield. I mean, if you look at 344 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,479 Speaker 4: like what makes him so special, he's incredibly elusive with 345 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 4: his ability to get in and out of cuts and routes, 346 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 4: and that's something that he again will still be a 347 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 4: work in progress. But every team's gonna try to mess 348 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 4: with a young guy and try to knock him off 349 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 4: his start, will mess up the timing, mess up his depth, 350 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 4: mess up his steps, and that's the easiest way to 351 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 4: get and get inside the head of a rookie wide 352 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 4: receiver is you try to get hands on him early 353 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 4: and get physical with him, and now it becomes about 354 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 4: a fight, and the emotions get involved in everything else 355 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 4: and you can throw technique and fundamentals out the window. 356 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 4: So he's going to be challenged because you know naturally 357 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 4: he's that hyped up and for a good reason. But 358 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 4: how he handles that over the course of this next 359 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 4: season will give you a better indication of the hypothetical 360 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 4: of like will he be paid as a guy who's 361 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 4: a two way player? And you also have to ask 362 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,239 Speaker 4: yourself if here's the organization, you may say, yeah, he's 363 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 4: gonna take U two roster spots, so we love this, 364 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 4: But then you also have to have the insurance pulse 365 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 4: of two guys who are ready to come in if 366 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 4: he gets hurt. And the another thing you have to 367 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 4: ask yourself is does this takeaway from the longevity of 368 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 4: his career. I mean, LaVar, you've played with some guys 369 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 4: like E Green, he played for a long time and 370 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 4: can play in the secondary, and there's wide receivers who 371 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 4: could play a long time. Now when you're doing both, like, 372 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 4: is this a deal where you watch him play for 373 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 4: eight years? And then that's kind of it because it 374 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 4: took such a toll on his body and trying to 375 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 4: play that and he snaps both ways. The physicality to 376 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 4: it that he's not able to play as long as 377 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 4: he'd like to play. So instead of being a guy 378 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 4: at thirty who's trying to get to that last big contract, 379 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 4: it's more of a I'm just trying to get whatever 380 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 4: I can or decide even if I want to play 381 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 4: at this point. Yeah, Like those are all things again 382 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 4: conversations for down the road, but I'm rooting for him. 383 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 4: I hope he can do it. I'd love to see 384 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 4: him building. I think he's talented enough. 385 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: To do it. 386 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: If that dude got both Rookies of the Year for 387 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, that would be some uncharted 388 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: territory ever in the history of the game. And then 389 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: how do you look at it? I'm just stuck on that. 390 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm just stuck. How how do you view this kid 391 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: is actually able to pull this off at the league 392 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: league level? 393 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: How do you how do you handle it? I'm gonna 394 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 2: be curious. It's going to be exciting to see if 395 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: he pulls it off. 396 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: But I was telling we were having a conversation on Saturday, 397 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: and I was asking TJ and Plex because their receivers, 398 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: you know, how does that how does that all play out? 399 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: And you know, TJ was like, well, they're they're only 400 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: going to play zone. You know, they'll probably play zone 401 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: a lot more than they play man when he's on defense, 402 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: and da da da this, And I was like, well, 403 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: if I'm looking at it from a perspective of getting 404 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: a competitive edge, if I see that they're playing Travis 405 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: Hunter both ways on on on defense, like as if 406 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm calling plays on offense and he's on defense. If 407 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: he's in a zone, If he's in a zone, look 408 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: I'm I'm running quicks right at him. If if he's 409 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: in a man, look I'm running him off. No matter what, 410 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: no matter what, no matter where to play is going, 411 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm going after him every single play to make him work. 412 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: If he's going both ways, and that's going to give 413 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: me a competitive edge. If you're going to leave him 414 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: in there, you're either going to pull him out because 415 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: we're going to run him and you got to deal 416 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: with him doing that on both sides of the ball, 417 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: or you're going to leave him in there. And if 418 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: you leave him in there, then at some point during 419 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: the game, I believe we get a competitive advantage. So 420 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: to me, I don't. I just feel like it's it 421 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: sounds good, it makes sense that he's talented enough to 422 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: do it, but in reality, these guys make so much money, 423 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: they're such great, brilliant minds. For whatever it's worth, at 424 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: the play calling positions, I just don't see how physically 425 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: and mentally he would be able to stand up and 426 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: be a two way player of full time two way 427 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: player at the league level. 428 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: Now said as much, I don't think they Jacksonville's doing 429 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 4: themselves a disservice though, if they're going to sacrifice their 430 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,479 Speaker 4: coverages or what they're doing just because he's in the game, right, Like, 431 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 4: you can't do that. I mean to me, what made 432 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 4: what was most interesting is there's only one ball on 433 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 4: offense and only one guy can get it. So even 434 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 4: though he's, you know, first string on the wide receiver 435 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 4: depth chart, are you going to put him in there 436 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 4: where he's not maybe always the first read? I mean, 437 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 4: you do have Brian Thomas on there, who is your 438 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 4: number one wide receiver as of now, you know you 439 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 4: took Travis Hunter, because you need to be able to 440 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 4: have two guys that your quarterback can rely on throw to. 441 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 4: Like you play in the AFC, You've got to get 442 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 4: through the Chiefs, the Bills, the Bengals, like all these 443 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 4: teams who have studs can score that the you know, 444 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 4: Baltimore Ravens and Lamar and everything else they do. So 445 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 4: you have to be able to get through all those 446 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 4: teams that can score a high rep a high pace. 447 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 4: So I think the toughest thing for Liam Cohen is 448 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 4: how did they prioritize those reps and how they're using him. 449 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 4: Like on defense, you're on defense, you're playing that whatever 450 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 4: the scheme calls for. Kind of in that moment if 451 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 4: you get a DC, you're saying, wow, we can't play 452 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 4: man because you know Travis is in there. It's like, 453 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 4: well you probably shouldn't be in there then. I mean 454 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 4: on offense, like I'm just curious to see, like are 455 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 4: they going to use him as a decoy at times 456 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 4: or is it like is a lot of the offense 457 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 4: gonna be built around when he's in there? Trying to 458 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 4: get him the ball? Because If it is, then it's 459 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 4: a sheer tell of what they're doing when he is 460 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 4: in there. So you know, look, Liam Cohen's creative offensive mind. 461 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 4: That's why he got the head coaching job in Jacksonville. 462 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 4: So that's for him to figure out. But those are 463 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 4: a lot of the things that like you look for 464 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 4: when you know you play in the NFL and you 465 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 4: play against a roster that maybe has six wide receivers 466 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 4: on the active roster, you pay attention to is in 467 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 4: the game. I mean you look out there and go, 468 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 4: all right, tryon Erowin's in. Maybe it's a run or 469 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 4: maybe it's something, but they're probably not going to go 470 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 4: downfield to a shot for him, right, Like you look 471 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 4: at the personnel as part of the clues and hints 472 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 4: of how you're gonna try to stop a team, you know, defensively, 473 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 4: and that would be one where I'm more curious what 474 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 4: he isn't of offense, how he's utilized and if he's 475 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 4: gonna be in there on a bunch of run plays 476 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 4: or you know, is this something where like he's going 477 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 4: to be a number one wide receiver and if there's 478 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 4: an issue for depth somewhere, then they use him as 479 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 4: that backup cornerback as well. 480 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: It's gonna be really fun to watch though. 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There's a new championship out. 503 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: I don't even get it, but there is a new 504 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: championship out and it would be appealing to two people 505 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: in the NFL. We'll get into that for you again 506 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: coming up here in about fifteen minutes from now. Before 507 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: we get to this story of some shifting in the 508 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: world of football, I want to let you know we're 509 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: brought to you by Oria Y don't miss do it 510 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 2: right deals at o'reiley Autoparts. Help your engine run smoother 511 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: and last longer with seafoam. 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Our friends over at DK have 521 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 2: them in the Baltimore Ravens at six to one to 522 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl. You're defending champs. The Eagles are 523 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: sitting at third at seven to one, and then you've 524 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 2: got the chief sitting at plus eight point fifty, so 525 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: a little over eight to one for the Kansas City Chiefs. 526 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 4: Give give me the Eagles and Chiefs. I'll take those 527 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 4: odds right now. 528 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 6: I wish I wish that there was Winds. 529 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened to that? Is that getting done or not? 530 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 4: Well, here's what happened. There is something that came in 531 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 4: between Lee and getting it done, and that most likely 532 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 4: was a twelve ounce beer or they're well beveraged. 533 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: So good luck and good luck getting it done today. 534 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: It's taco Tuesday, so good luck getting it done today. 535 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 4: And then you get this delivery Wednesday. There's Thursday Thursday, 536 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 4: so we're looking at I don't know, maybe not Sunday. 537 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 4: You can see the problem how this never gets done. 538 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 4: Definitely not a Saturday. 539 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 5: Makeshift sounders are really good though, wins Winds. 540 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 4: That's you, Lorraina. That's not Lee. That was good, but 541 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 4: I'm saying, you can't give him credit. He did nothing. 542 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 4: That's just you. 543 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: It's very true, all. 544 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 4: Right, So thanks Lee, thanks for. 545 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 2: Here's why I would say that the Bills not the 546 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,239 Speaker 2: wisest bet this upcoming year because they're dealing with a 547 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: trend that is undefeated, and that trend is they're on 548 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 2: hard knocks, and when you're on hard knocks, you don't 549 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 2: really do all that well. That is the history of 550 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: the show. We've got over a decade of evidence to 551 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: prove that. So with that being said, the Buffalo Bills 552 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 2: will not be winning a Super Bowl next year. 553 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: I mean, they've not given you any reason to think 554 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: that they're going to win a Super Bowl. They've been 555 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: given that, they have earned that opportunity quite a few times. 556 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: They've never never sealed the deal. You know. As good 557 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: as the team is, I still think that there's something 558 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: to team history connected to these types of things. And listen, 559 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: Philly became a team that was able to get over 560 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: that hump and get that a louse u Sive championship 561 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: and now they have two. But I got I gotta 562 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: be honest with you, I just don't get that feeling 563 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: from Buffalo. 564 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: I would have to see Buffalo get there. 565 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: And do it before I you know, feel comfortable saying 566 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: going into a season, this is a team that should 567 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: be considered a super Bowl team. There's just certain teams 568 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: like Cleveland. I won't do it for Cleveland. I won't 569 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: do it for the Bills. I won't do it for Jacksonville. 570 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: I mean that's enough right there. Won't do it for 571 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: the Jets. So those are all that can't get rights. 572 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: There's there's a few can't get rights out there, and 573 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: there's no reason to feel as though, even though as 574 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: good as they may be, that they're going to win. 575 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense. Not the kind of a 576 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: pain in the ass about the Patrick Mahomes era. If 577 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: you're one of these other teams in the AFC outside 578 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: of Joe Burrow and Tom Brady, nobody's really doing it, Like, 579 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: nobody's really getting that done the postseason. Baltimore seemingly had 580 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: things in their favor a couple of years ago, favored 581 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: at home in the AFC Title Game, and then just 582 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: sort of melted down. Say Flowers had the penalty, the turnover, 583 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: and you know last year weren't able to get it done. 584 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: I would roll if I've got a pick between the 585 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: two Buffalo and Baltimore, I'll take Baltimore. If you're gonna 586 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: if you're gonna pick between the two co favorites to 587 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl, I will take Baltimore. 588 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 3: Knocks Loucks. 589 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not I'm not entertaining. Are you giving 590 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: a pick? Q? Like? Oh, out of the a f C. 591 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: They're going to the Super Bowl. 592 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: I gave my pick, you said, you said, phillyh Yeah. 593 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: No, I'm not doing quit Swift, I'm not doing it today. 594 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: Sticks picks, Thank you, He's out. 595 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: To go. 596 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 4: That's amazing today, That's amazing. He slappy Lee, You want 597 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 4: to give your pick? What do you got, hey, Lee? 598 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: For a f C? Oh my god? Anything Lee? 599 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 4: Happy hours? Today? 600 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: Lee's got a Bombay Sapphire plus eight hundred. Who's your 601 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: pick for what a f C? 602 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 4: Oh my god, dude, for anything? Just picked something? 603 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: To name anything? 604 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 4: The color the NBA Finals, malfunction, Ravens Packers, malfunction. 605 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 8: Ravens Packings, packers, to lapse drinks, Oh God, lead at, 606 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 8: Oh God. 607 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: The snort and the Michael Jackson, the he he and 608 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 2: the snort. Those are the dead giveaways. Well, look, congratulations 609 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: to any but any teams that were mentioned here doing 610 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 2: a good bet that I put down. What's that? 611 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 6: Rashawn Johnson over three and a half touchdowns? 612 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,719 Speaker 2: What I put it? 613 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 9: Three and a half touchdowns for Shawn Johnson? His over 614 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 9: unders three and a half touchdowns? Ben Johnson's there, David Montgomery. 615 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 4: Some of the running back in Chicago. 616 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, on a second running back. 617 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 2: No, I'm aware of that. I'm just wondering, but where 618 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: did that come from? Why would he be doing prop 619 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,239 Speaker 2: bets on Rashawn Johnson? I saw it, and I bet it. 620 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 4: Buddy. Let me if you started to asking your questions 621 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 4: about why Lee does anything? Figure down a rabbit hole, 622 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 4: you don't know what's another end? 623 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he saw it fit to inject that information 624 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: into the conversation. 625 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: Just where did that come from? A rabbit hole? Right now? 626 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 6: To reboot all these computers? 627 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: Now you've now you've gone in here for some for 628 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 2: some lease picks. Here here you go, so you're on 629 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 2: a gambling site when you say, when you say reboot 630 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 2: these computers, like it's you just turn it off then 631 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: back on, Like let's let's be honest. 632 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 4: You're not some tech wizard you're doing something. What are 633 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 4: you doing that's uniquely. 634 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 6: Well, there's a million there's a million sites. 635 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 3: Long. 636 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 9: What are you I need access? It's stuff for like 637 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 9: posting our editing. Yeah, it's stuff for editing. It's stuff 638 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 9: for posting our podcast. 639 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 4: Which, by the way, say our podcast did post yesterday. 640 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: Hour two did not post right away. 641 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: All we did was ask you you got one in 642 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? 643 00:33:55,280 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: What is going on here? The hell did Rashawn Johnson's 644 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: touchdown prop get brought up? 645 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. 646 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 9: You guys asked me for some for some Lee's pick 647 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 9: what you guys were asking for? 648 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 2: He asked you who was going to the Super Bowl? Lee? 649 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, Packers, Packers, Ravens, I tell you right now. 650 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: See that's all you had to say. That is all 651 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 2: we said. No, you guys said pick something, and I 652 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: said pick something. 653 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 4: For Lee only because we lost all faith and you'll 654 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 4: be able to remember any NFL team name. So at 655 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 4: that point we were just we were hoping you could 656 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 4: pick a color, pick a food or beer anything. 657 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 9: You guys didn't give me context. I'm sorry I was 658 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 9: not paying attention. 659 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: I mean, the truth was at the end of your response, 660 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: Like we did. We gave you all the context. Everybody 661 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: was going everybody was talking about it. 662 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 4: Lee. 663 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 2: Now I gave you. You're welcome. Rashawn Johnson, by the way, 664 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 2: I do half touch, I do like Bet. I have 665 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 2: no idea why you stumbled upon that. But was that 666 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 2: something you were scrolling through? You were taking a dump? Yeah? Okay, fair, 667 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: all right, that's that's fair. He's in full crash out mode. Bro. 668 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 2: It is. 669 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: Crash out. This is as crashed out as I've I've 670 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: ever seen it. 671 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 2: But you know what, though, on the bright side, you 672 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 2: did stumble upon your Lee impression, right, You've been working 673 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 2: on that for four years, mastered it. That was cute 674 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 2: you did that to bro do it? 675 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 4: Oh my what Homer Simpsons. It sounds like. 676 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: It's like Homer Simpson, Captain cave Man, Arnold Schwartzenegger. Wow, 677 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: it's like everybody all in one. 678 00:35:50,920 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 2: Somebody Ox said, it's Harry Carry and Arnold Schwartzenegger. You 679 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 2: say Lee, Ah, Laranda just said, somebody put him to bed, right, 680 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: all right? It is two pros and a cup of 681 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 2: Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next, though, 682 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 2: there's a championship out there and there's some interested people 683 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 2: if they'd like in the NFL, We've got the latest 684 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 2: for you here NFSR. 685 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 686 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 3: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 687 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 3: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 688 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 2: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, 689 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 2: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming 690 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 2: up top of next hour a little over ten minutes 691 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 2: from now. We've got a relationship that appears to be 692 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 2: deteriorating in the NFL. We'll get into that for you 693 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 2: here on FSR. Before we get to this awkward and 694 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: weird story that might appeal to a couple of people 695 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 2: in the NFL. Want to let you know that you 696 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 2: can subscribe to the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just 697 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. You'll see our best 698 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 2: videos from all of our shows. After you subscribe to 699 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio on YouTube, click the bell icon on 700 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 2: the homepage and turn on all notifications so you have 701 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 2: easy access to our very best videos. So there's a 702 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 2: massage Championship. What's the award the Watson Trophy? Oh no, you. 703 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 4: Get a plaque that's made of a towel. 704 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 2: Damn, I'm looking at the video of this. Yeah, I 705 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 2: don't get it. I don't understand. How do you how 706 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 2: do you determine a winner? I could tell you, I 707 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 2: could tell you. 708 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 4: I could tell Yeah, I was gonna say, isn't a 709 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 4: subjective instance? 710 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: How quickly the massage? And what do you mean by that? 711 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 2: Like speed? Pencils down? Done? I just I don't I 712 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 2: don't understand what wait? And what's so good? What's the prize? 713 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 2: Because they're having another one next July, by the way, 714 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 2: I believe it's in Denmark if I'm not mistaken. 715 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 6: Can I volunteer? 716 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 4: Yeah? I say, are you a judge where you get 717 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 4: to get massaged all day? 718 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 2: And they're like, yep, all right, that guy was you? 719 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:28,959 Speaker 4: That got was the best? 720 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 2: You know, I've never had a massage never. 721 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 4: That's about right. 722 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 6: That seems right. 723 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey you look a little stiff. 724 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 4: Yeah you need like an oil? Can you need some 725 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 4: like w D forty? 726 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 2: Trust himself? I started getting them hands. 727 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 4: But when I saw this topic, I really did think 728 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 4: Lee was gonna be a part of the second for saying. 729 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 2: Got my technique down everything. Have you all watched that technique. 730 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 4: No, hold on, no, Lee, what is your technique? 731 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 2: No tickling or nothing? Got my technique down and everything? 732 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 2: Oh what's my technique? You got? 733 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 9: You gotta look at the You just gotta work it 734 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 9: out foot massage man. 735 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 2: By the way, you know you can get involved in 736 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 2: this for three hundred bucks. What Yeah, I think it's 737 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 2: a two hundred and sixty euros but equates right now 738 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 2: to just under three hundred dollars. If you want to 739 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 2: register for this massage Championship in Denmark next. 740 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 4: Year, I mean to be a massuse staring it. 741 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, to just to try and win the championship. Three 742 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 2: hundred bucks. 743 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 4: Look at that, you should go for it. Let's let 744 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 4: let's have a few bruskis and talk about it. 745 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 6: How about being one of the recipients? Can you pay 746 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 6: to be one of those? 747 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 4: I don't know, but you're gonna have to be so 748 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 4: it says in fine print at the bottom if you 749 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 4: scroll down, you cannot drink, so you have to be 750 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 4: dead sober while you're doing it though, Lee. 751 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, you're gonna have to beat 752 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 2: out Justin Tucker and Bob Kraft. So I don't know 753 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 2: if there's gonna be room for you on any of 754 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 2: those tables. Very strange, Le. 755 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 4: Are you out if that's the case, if you if 756 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 4: you have to be dry going into Lee, Are you out? 757 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 2: No, I'll be sober for it. That'll be fine. 758 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 4: Zero alcohol at least, you can't have. You can't have 759 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:21,479 Speaker 4: even a drink. 760 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 2: It'll be good. I'll be fine. I don't know. I 761 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 2: don't know about that drink out Lee. Have you had 762 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 2: a massage before? 763 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 4: Have you got of course? 764 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, plenty yeah, I mean not not a lot. 765 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 2: But John