1 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: What's up, Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of 2 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: the Mets Stuff Podcast. I'm taking the intro James right 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: now because we have to change things up because this 4 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: team is dead cooked, finished, horrible. Any adjective you want 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: to give for how bad this Mets team is right now. 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: It plays because we fucking suck. We can't win a game. 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: Just got swept again in Milwaukee, lost three completely winnable games. 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: If there was a team that was playing well with confience, 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: you sweep this series and it's just it's a disaster. 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: You're inventing ways to lose, You're doing horrible things every 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: single night, and both sides the ball now, one person 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: top down, this organization is completely equidted. 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: To blame, and we're going to talk about it. 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: We're even really whinding for like a month straight, so 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: we're not gonna keep being windy. We're gonna be a 16 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: little bit more, not like fully analytical, but definitely like 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: dig in more, talk about some more nuts and bolts 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: about why this team sucks, but they just suck. Thank 19 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: you guys so much for continuing to listen. 20 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: Through with us. 21 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: Make sure you're following us to social media for not 22 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: already met stuff on Instagram, TikTok, and Twitter. Watch this 23 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: on the Mets Mets UF YouTube channel. 24 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: What else do you say in the intro? Mark if 25 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: you're listening to US Apple podcast, Spotify, Google drops the Ring, 26 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 2: drops a review, download and subscribe. Maybe that's a good way. 27 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: I think next episode we're gonna read out some reviews. 28 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: So if you want to shout out, drop us a 29 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: review five stars, you get a shout out. But yeah, 30 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: I'm tired. I'm so tired of it. I can't even 31 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: crash out anymore. I didn't. This one didn't even hurt, 32 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: which is crazy. No, what hurt was how we got there, 33 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: the exhaustion of like knowing what was going to happen 34 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: before it happened. Like we knew that the Mets were 35 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: not winning this game as soon as Sean and Iya 36 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: had the trouble in that game, and then we gave 37 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: up the home run and we gave up the runs, 38 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: and we knew this game was over. Six runs wasn't enough. 39 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: Seven runs would have been enough. Whatever. Whatever the amount 40 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: the Mets we're gonna score today, they're gonna lose. It's 41 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: just it's not in the cards right now. The vibes, 42 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: the aura, the feeling of this team just such a 43 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: such a hard zero right now. If you could go 44 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: below zero, if negative numbers were a real thing like 45 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: that you could actually quantify. Can't quantify a negative numbers, 46 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: you can't have less than zero, the Mets would be there. Yeah, 47 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: thats up, Mets, up math with Mark. But it's just 48 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 2: the line. 49 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: It feel like that the whole way and every single 50 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: one of these games, because like I said at the top, 51 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: every game is completely winnable. If the Mets were a 52 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: team playing with confidence, in any kind of good feelings whatsoever, 53 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: you might have swept this years, you might have saved 54 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: your season. But in every single game they found a 55 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: way to blow it in a way that they really 56 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't have. I think that was the big feeling and 57 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: through this whole game on Sunday, because like you score, 58 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: you score runs in the first five innings of this game. 59 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: The players are feeling good. It looks like they're joking around, 60 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: like all right, you know, hard to sweep a good team. 61 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: The Mets are still in air quotes at the time, 62 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: a good team. So yeah, you find a way to 63 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: win this third game, you get through and then the 64 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: second there's the chink in the armor. 65 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: You feel this. 66 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: Brewers fans, you feel the Brewers teams, and you're just like, 67 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: we're going to lose again. Like it's it's hard to 68 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: fight those feelings. And that's the kind of part that's 69 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: the most distressing about this run. 70 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: So, like we've all of you guys listening to this. 71 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: You guys have watched a lot of baseball. 72 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: You could see when a team looks like this, their shoulders, 73 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: you can see the way they're acting. They're slumping, you're 74 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: looking around, you're waiting for something bad to happen rather 75 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: than expecting something good to happen. That's just that's exactly 76 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: how this team has been for months now. 77 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the way that they scored a hit 78 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: Quinn priests earlier, I was like, maybe that was rock 79 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: bottom yesterday, Like maybe getting the shit kicked out of 80 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: you by the Brewers late in the game with sloppy 81 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: play and errors and just a laughable, laughable performance. So 82 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: maybe that was rock bottom because they came out swinging, 83 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: and then as soon as Quinn Priester left the game, 84 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: I don't think the Mets got another hit. Maybe they 85 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: got one more hit in this one. 86 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean Dall's coming off the mound screaming like let's 87 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: fucking go, because, like you, while this team is still 88 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: down by multiple runs, it's like there's just it's you're 89 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: watching two complete opposite teams going opposite directions right now, 90 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: like one team that's just otherly feeling themselves and one 91 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: team that has lost all sense of feeling whatsoever. 92 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: The Mets have literally not pushed the right button for 93 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: a month and a half. They have Every single button 94 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: that's pushed by Mendoz is wrong, every single button that's 95 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: been pushed. I mean, Ryan Helsley blew this one like 96 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: it's and I like Ryan Helsley, I don't think a problem, 97 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: but it's just like every single place you look something 98 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: that's made, any decisions that's been made, any activity that's 99 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: been done, it's just been wrong. And I don't I 100 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: don't even really too. Yeah, Edwin Diaz blew this one. 101 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: I mean he hasn't pitched in a safe situation what 102 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: two weeks now, Like it's it's so shocking how bad 103 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: this team is right now. So showho shocking and truthfully, 104 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 2: like anybody who's like we saw this coming, like no, no, 105 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: you didn't like enough, Like that's the most tired take 106 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: ever that you saw this coming. Knew the Mets were 107 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: going to regress. We knew that they weren't going to 108 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: be as hot as they were to start the year 109 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: twenty games, about five hundred for the entire season and 110 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: be out of control, that'd be insane. But for the 111 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 2: Mets to be this version that they've been now for 112 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: two months and specifically since the All Star break, being 113 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: just absolutely pissed poor. I mean they've lost what ten 114 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: of the last eleven games? I think, Yeah, it's the 115 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: number that that was not in my Bengo card, even 116 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: with how the vibes have changed up and down this season. 117 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: I just I didn't see this coming because this is 118 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: not even what a a baseball team does. This is 119 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 2: like what the Rockies do, like one of the worst 120 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: teams in history. The way the Mets are playing. Oh yeah, 121 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: you can't. 122 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: You can't watch a team play this stretch and have 123 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: two of these stretches now, because we've had two of 124 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: these stretches. We've had two of these stretches where we've 125 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: basically have not been able to win a game for 126 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: like two consecutive weeks. You can't expect any kind of 127 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: deep postseason run, any kind of actual true team team 128 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: level of like legitimate team level of team success. When 129 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: a team can do this for multiple weeks inside of 130 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: one season, you just simply you simply can't do it. 131 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: It's like it makes you question every single thing that's 132 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: happened now with this team. There's there's you have to 133 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: question the way the top of this team is, like, 134 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: I know, we know one, we know where the defense 135 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: wants so to defend. There's a lot of people I 136 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: don't think watch the games game in and game out, 137 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: are like this guy sucks when it's like he kind 138 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: of just is the one guy who's actually able to 139 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: do it. I know the runners corpositions think it's still bad, 140 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: but like whatever, Like between them and Alonzo and Lindor, 141 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: it's like, how how far can that that core as 142 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: a supplement to one? So though take you now actually 143 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: going forward to the next couple of years of those 144 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: guys have each. 145 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: In their prime. 146 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: We're going on two straight months from Solo and Alonzo 147 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: where we have like a six fifty ops for Lindor 148 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: and a six seventy ops from Alonzo. 149 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: It's just not. 150 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: You can't when those two guys combined to make fifty 151 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: sixty million dollars, you can't. 152 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: You can't hit that poorly for this long. You can't 153 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: do it. No, it's it's not sustainable, Like it's it's 154 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: shocking how bad everyone is playing at the same time. 155 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 2: Is there anybody playing well? 156 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: Anybody like in total, I mean, going into this series, 157 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: I would have still said Francisco alvars was playing well 158 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: and he didn't really have that great of the series. 159 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: But also like, I don't know all these relievers that 160 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: come to the team and suck. I mean, Sean and 161 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: I hits the same wall at seventy pitches every single 162 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: in every single Star Code. I Sanka was a disaster 163 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: by him on Friday night, complete unbelievable disappointment. I would 164 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: say Jef McNeil is still playing well, he still gets 165 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: hits every game. I would have said Marissio was still 166 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: playing well, but then he has that horrible misplay on 167 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: Saturday night. Like there isn't really anyone who can look 168 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: top to bottom being like they're playing well. It's just 169 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: you're not. This is a team wide issue. Every single 170 00:06:59,279 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: guy sucking. 171 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I hate to do this seven minutes into 172 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: the podcast. But like we're starting to have the Mendoza conversation, 173 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: right Like, this is now a conversation. I'm not saying 174 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: he's gonna get fired. I'm not saying he should get 175 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 2: fired right now. But I think this is at least 176 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: he's He is a lot to blame. He's the manager. 177 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: Right Like if me and you were gonna be so 178 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: tough on Buck in the past for being like horrible 179 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: and doing his stuff, I think there's a lot of 180 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: blame to give to Mendoza two because process wise, I'm 181 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: not seeing it. I'm not seeing the process with this team. 182 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: I understand the starting pitchers aren't going deep. I know 183 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: that's a problem. Take that for what it is. Whatever. 184 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: I don't even care to argue about it anymore, because 185 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: it's they do. They need to pitch longer. It's not wrong. 186 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: I would love to see Sean and I throw more 187 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: than seventy pitches of effective baseball. I'd love to see 188 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: Code I Sanga throw four innings of effective baseball. Those 189 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: are things I'd love to see. But at the same time, 190 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: like the lineup today, like hitting Nemo third was crazy, 191 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: That was insane. The guy is ice ice ice, ice, ice, 192 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: cold like colder than you could possibly be. I think 193 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: he struck out over fifty percent of the time since 194 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: the All Star Break. He hasn't hit a fastball. Well, 195 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: it seems like in weeks to hit him third is 196 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: crazy just from a process standpoint to him, Third's nuts, right, 197 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: A lot just gotta be hitting third, sure, But. 198 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: Also in that situation, I'm just like, I don't I 199 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: don't really care about the way these top four guys 200 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: are aligned because they're not hitting. 201 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: They're not hitting. I think that there were there were two. 202 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: Things that happened this yeraries where I was like, I've 203 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: really questioned Mendoza because and this is this is where 204 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: the conversation comes in, because again, like we said, the 205 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: Mets had not just a chance to win all three 206 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: of these games, ample chances to win all three of 207 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: these games. So the point where, again, if they were 208 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: playing with any semblance of cohesion, confidence or clue, you win. 209 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: To the two of three of these games, if not 210 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: all three of them. 211 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: But Friday night, after blowing the early lead from the 212 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: code sang complosure, which I'll diget into it a little 213 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: bit for you guys, Starling Martey to two out double, 214 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: and I think that great. Everybod every I think it's shocked. 215 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: Everyone is how bad this Mets team had been hitting, 216 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: including including Carlos Mendoza. And it did seem like there 217 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: was forty five seconds where it would make a lot 218 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: of sense when you have one of the slower players 219 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: in your team standing at second base as the tying 220 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: run to switch him out for player on the bench's 221 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: objectively one of the fastest players in your team, Tyrone Taylor, 222 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: that one. 223 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: Of the fastest players in baseball. 224 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: But that move didn't come. And then Jeff McNeil kind 225 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: of fists out a little single to center field, one 226 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: hopper blue shot to the centerfielder Blake Perkins Martine's rounding third. 227 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm sitting in my apartment. I got two hands up 228 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: in the air, like, yes, we tied the game going 229 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: in the right direction. And then credits to Blake Perkins, 230 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: because I think a lot of this discussion missed the 231 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: fact that Blake Perkins made a great play in a 232 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: perfect throw. 233 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 2: Yeah it made like a hundred fifty foot throw. 234 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: Yeah throw he did, ye put you put the right 235 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: in the exact spile. Yeah, And William and Terrero supplies 236 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: the tag and starting my Tay's out by by the foot. 237 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: Did you think we tied it up? I did one 238 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: hundred percent. I thought that was absolute Locke. I was like, 239 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: he's out a hit. I was like, I think he's out. 240 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: I was like, he's he's just not fast. He actually 241 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: got a good jump. And this is even more. This 242 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: is even more of the reason why I was so 243 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: wrong to have Starry More to out. He actually did 244 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: everything perfectly. 245 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: He got a great jump, he ran faster than he 246 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: normally does, and he was still by like a foot 247 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: and a half. I mean to not bring in Tyron 248 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: Taylor in that situation if you're not going to use him. 249 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: There was a moment in the game two where I 250 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: thought in Game three where Ron Mariso is sticking a 251 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: right handed bat against the DL Hall. As much as 252 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: I don't like Mark Vientos, if he's not going to 253 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: take the bats against left handed pitching, what's the purpose 254 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: of him on this team. If Tyrone Taylor is not 255 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: going to come into pinch runner for defense, what's the 256 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: purpose of him on this team? And using your bench 257 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: and using your players appropriately, That is one hundred percent 258 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: on the manager and Mendoza had an absolute disaster class 259 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: this series. 260 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: Especially, and you mentioned those two right handed at bats 261 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: running Riso in that in Game three, which would just 262 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: never ever want to happen. Pat Murphy's grinning ear the 263 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: ear when you get that. But it's also just so 264 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: funny with the juxtaposition from Monday's game Tuesday's game. I 265 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: forget what happens Tuesday's game where you do the pinch 266 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: run for Tyrone Taylor. 267 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: He doesn't get send. 268 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: So it's like, we can't we literally can't push any 269 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: of the right buttons. So many of these games you 270 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: have opportunities to win them, and every single time you 271 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: find a way to blow them. 272 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: And to Mendoz's credit, to every thing, the players are 273 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: playing bad, bad, the team, the team is playing bad. 274 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: So everything you can get magnified. Yeah, get magnified. Because 275 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, if the Mets just 276 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: score more runs, these aren't issues that we have. If 277 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: the Mets play better, if the Mets score hit whatever 278 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: it needs to be, we don't have to talk about this. 279 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: But at the same time, the fact that now there 280 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: are these high pressure situations, there are these process lists, decisions, 281 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: that are being made. We are seeing Carlos Mendoza exposed 282 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: a little bit as an inexperienced manager or someone who 283 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: maybe is not following the process as strictly as we 284 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: had hoped and is kind of going more off of 285 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: the vibes that just worked last year that aren't working 286 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: this year. 287 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: But again, like a lot of these field things, like 288 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: vibe things like I can see but not pinch running 289 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: with Tyrone Taylor as the tying run like there's no 290 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: there's no semblance. 291 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: That's anti process by not doing it. Because Tyrone is 292 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 2: objectively much faster than Starling Marte start. Marte is like 293 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: about as fast as Louis Trenz this year. Just to 294 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: put that into context, when you look at rint speed 295 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: numbers on Baseball Savant. 296 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: Again, that's the average print speed in this when he's 297 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: not really running that hard, but in the even a 298 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: sprinting moment, he's significantly slower than Tyrol Taylor is. 299 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: And that the reason I think that's the vibes thing. 300 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: Rather than like him, it's anti process, it's vibes is 301 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: like he's like Martes fast. I mean, you you heard everybody. 302 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: You heard Keith talking about it on the broadcast. You 303 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: heard you saw people on Twitter being like, Mart's a 304 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: good runner, He's fast. You're like, but we know that, 305 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: we have stats. We have numbers that will tell us 306 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: Tyrone Taylor is faster. That was that was frustrated. It 307 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: was like I had that was my crash out night. 308 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: We have a little breaking news on Hello Fresh. We've 309 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: talked about him for a long time. But this summer 310 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: they have their biggest menu upgrade yet. Ready for this, 311 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 3: Todd Father talked to me. 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The only other time two other times as 340 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: I met with seen Lindor act like that. One was 341 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: when he joked out Jess mcneial twenty twenty one, and 342 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: then the other time was early last season when this 343 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: team was completely in disaster mode and he had like 344 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: the triple slam on the in the dirt when someone 345 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: didn't back up but there was a player with somebody 346 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: at cover. 347 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: We had that, and then we also had the one 348 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: where it was like down the line, remember, and he 349 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 2: started yelling at the umpire, which you never see Francisco 350 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: Indoor do. They had the City Connects on. I don't 351 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: remember the exact context, but he went ballistic as well. 352 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: He's not a guy who shows emotion like that typically. 353 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: So when Francisco Indoor shows that, I mean the pressing 354 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: that these guys doing is are crazy. It's absolutely insane. 355 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: It's obvious, you can feel it. 356 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: And then when Francisco Indoor goes in front of the 357 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: media after the game for ten minutes, you're just like, 358 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: oh my god, like this is just brutal. But he 359 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, I mean, not so 360 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: much defense. I know he has been like the perfect 361 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: defensive player this year, but. 362 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: Still ninety first percent that what I'm saying, That error 363 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: makes it look bad. 364 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: And then again a two run error like that with 365 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: the bases loaded, when you're trying to nurse Franky mans 366 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: Us through as many things you possibly can, like that hurts. 367 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: And then watching him freak gather about it, that hurts too. 368 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: But then you come back to the fact of offensively, 369 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: Francisco Indoors is tremendously dragging this team down right now. 370 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: He is. 371 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: It's just this is and we've we've highlighted the multiple times. 372 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: It seems very clear that he broke his toe in 373 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: that game against the Dodgers, and it's impacted him dramatically. 374 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: For some reason, when he had so much time to 375 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: take time off, he didn't take time off. I understand 376 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: that for sischool in door is a player who has 377 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: a lot of pride. No no one else in the 378 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: league really strives. I mean a few players do, but 379 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: straps are one sixty two, like Lindora does, Pete does, 380 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: and a couple other guys but so does as well. Actually, 381 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: but for him to just not I mean this also, 382 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: this I think also comes back to Mendoza because like, 383 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: these are the difficult conversations you kind of have to have. 384 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: And last year again everything went pretty well. 385 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: Like after it went really bad at the beginning, but 386 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: then it just consistent momentum in the resurrection the whole way. 387 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: Like this is something the manager has to do. 388 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: Possibly we have to sit down the star player that 389 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: the fact of capping the team and be like, hey, 390 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: I know it's not going well. I know I've seen 391 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: the X ray. Your toa is fucking broken, Like trying 392 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: to play on that is really cool and you're the 393 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: iron man we know you. 394 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: Are, but you might just have to not for a 395 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: little bit, you know what I mean. 396 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: Like, I think it was a big reason that for 397 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: Cis school Door was able to get so hot and 398 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: carry the Mets through the end of last season the 399 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: postseason was because when that back was fucked up, he 400 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: took some time off and we've probably they have missed 401 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: the boation and be able to take time off. Like 402 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: maybe not because he is playing so poorly, but like, 403 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: if you're hurt, you have to say it. You just 404 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: have to, like, and maybe he's not hurt anymore, and 405 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: maybe that's it. But like we're seeing the same thing 406 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: happen with Mookie Best in the Dodgers right now, where 407 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: it's just like lost seasons from Superstars because you're trying 408 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: to play through an injury that might not be worth 409 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: playing through. 410 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: I did see MOOKI talked about how bad his season 411 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: has been, and it was interesting to see him acknowledge it. 412 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: But also he's like, I will not be able to 413 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: turn these numbers around this season. This season is lost. 414 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: He's like, but for the rest of the year. I 415 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: need to do every single thing possible to help my 416 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: team win. I need to make an impact from now 417 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: till the last game of the season. And I don't 418 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: think franciscol Indoor is not having that attitude by any means. 419 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: I don't think he's out of that mindset. But it 420 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: does just there's just a weird feeling around everybody on 421 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: this team right now, where it's like pressing, pressing, pressing. 422 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: Everybody's feeling the pressure. Nobody steps up, Nobody gets the 423 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: big hit, nobody makes the big play, nobody makes the 424 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: right decision. I don't know if I've ever seen a 425 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: collective group of people all be so off at the 426 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: same time. It's like thirty plus people if you think 427 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: about the entire organization. 428 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: It's even funny too, because you get through the first 429 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: five innings of the game on Sunday, and we scored 430 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: run every inning. Every player at reach base, well almost 431 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: every player the team have a hard hit ball besides 432 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: the door and Nemo but and then Louise Terenz. But 433 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: it's just like, even for the second that that Shaman 434 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: and I started letting those runs in, I was like, absolutely, 435 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: this is how it's going to go end. This is 436 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: another thing I was pretty upset with Mendoz about the 437 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: fact that you can obviously see Sean and I losing it. 438 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: And this is now almost every single start he's made 439 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: is coming off the injured list. But you guys can 440 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: watch it. Once he hits like sixty eight sixty nine pitches, 441 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: seventy seventy one pitches, he throws a fastball with low velocity, 442 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: and then he starts trying to throw as hard as 443 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: he possibly can. You see velossit tick back up, but 444 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: the command goes away and you see him just kind 445 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: of grit his teeth and get through as many bad 446 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: as he can and you can't do it. And then 447 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: of course, like it's not not his fault. But then 448 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: Ridguhert comes the game and the man on base, rather 449 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: than just having come into clean inning, gives up a 450 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: quick home run to run. Homer gets this Brewis team 451 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: off the mat. They start to feel good again, and 452 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: then you're like, ah, shit, like now the ball's going 453 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: to start rolling. And then as this whole game is 454 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: going on too, you see the Brewers Pat Murphy take 455 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: their guys off the bench. They still were able to 456 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: give christianellis a full off day, which is crazy. But 457 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: Bryce terrank Cross his lead off walk south for two. Yes, 458 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: again that was off of that was I started that 459 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: ending yet but like they bring the lefties off the 460 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: bench that weren't playing because man I while at the 461 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: same time when d'all hall the lefties in the game, 462 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: but Mendosa kind of least lets the bench ride. It's 463 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, It's just there's nothing nothing, 464 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: nothing right is happening. 465 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 2: No, no, every every single thing that the metsical possibly 466 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 2: do right is wrong. Tech game losing streak, like they've 467 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: given up eleven game losing streak whatever, They've given up 468 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: eleven games in the NL East in two months. It's insane. 469 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: Another guy I want to talk about where things are 470 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: bad right now. It's Code Sanga. And we were really 471 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 2: on this during spring training early season that like. 472 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: The most low key, the player that could change the 473 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: Mets fortunes the most this season were Sanga. Because that 474 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: was also wrong for because we expected the top four 475 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: of the Albi studs, we kind of expected Pewston to 476 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: be himself. We knew that was going to be an 477 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: uphill battle for him, and I am Mott is coming 478 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: back from serious spring training injuries. So a lot of 479 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: this season Rodan Sanga being a guy who could be 480 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: like a trusted front line, top of the rotation pitcher. 481 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: And I know the era is still low, and I 482 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: think this is a perfect moment to make everyone remember 483 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: how pointless the ra can be sometimes because watching that 484 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: Sanga pitcher're like, oh my god, Like that start on 485 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: Friday was I think the I think the worst he's 486 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: ever looked as a major leaguer. And then at the 487 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 1: end of the box score at the end of the day, oh, 488 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: only one in a run, four and there's ending it's 489 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: not that bad. But the way that fifth inning fell 490 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: apart where he botched the bunt from Blake Perkins. I 491 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: also think that if a pitcher makes an error, someone 492 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: should be rescoring these plays so the runs aren't because 493 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. If the pitcher makes an error, that's still 494 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: not in the run. But then the way that he 495 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: lost the focus and the next pitch was a spinner 496 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: right down the middle of the color Bryce terrang the pitcher. 497 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: We've been talking about a lot that he's not been 498 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: able to locate the pitch that was the big difference 499 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: maker for Sanga that made him into an ace during 500 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: his rookie season, and after that, it's balls. He can't 501 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: get ahead of guys. He's not getting swings and misses. 502 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: This is the first game in his career he. 503 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: Gets swing and missing the ghost fork. 504 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: The Brewers completely knew when and where that pitch was coming. 505 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: William Contreras hit won a mile that went foul. 506 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: Maracus. Yeah, it was. 507 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: Every single time they swung at it, they make contact 508 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: with it, which is alarming for the pitch that's supposed 509 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: to be the one that Sanger lies on for his 510 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: bread and butther, And that continues to come back to 511 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: the fact that he can't get ahead, he cannot locate 512 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: the fastball or the color. It's the whole thing is 513 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: kind of falling apart like a house of cards, just 514 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: because he's not the consistency in the command is completely 515 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: not there right. 516 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: Now for him. Yeah, I'm super disappointed, really disappointed in 517 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 2: how he's looked. I know he's had injuries, but like 518 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 2: I also, like every other team has injuries too, Guys 519 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: come back and they pitched fine. Dodgers had guys that 520 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: had that missed a lot of time. They're coming back. 521 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: They're pitching great. I get there better players, they're better 522 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: pitchers than the Mets guys. Blake Snell todder Glasnow are 523 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 2: two of the ten best pitchers in baseball and they're healthy. Yeah, Moto, 524 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: but like code I Senga is a top thirty pitcher 525 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: in the when things are going right, and he just 526 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: he can't He's not even close. It feels like there's 527 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 2: a lot of Yeah, there's there's a lot of guys 528 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 2: on this team, and I guess this falls on Heffner, 529 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: to this falls on Shavas, falls on Mendoz, it falls 530 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 2: on the entire organization as a whole. Everybody is to 531 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: blame right now for what is going on top to bottom. Yeah, 532 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: there there's like this weird like people need people look lost, confused, Yeah, pressure, 533 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: like everything is like so flustered. Everyone feels so flustered. 534 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,239 Speaker 2: They don't they don't have any answers and they're not 535 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: getting any answers. So I don't know how that. I 536 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 2: don't know how that happens for two months that you 537 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: can't can't find an answer unless the answer is my 538 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: favorite thing to say now in the podcast. So they 539 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 2: just Are they bad? Is this just a bad baseball team? 540 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: That's that's the only answer that we're being led to 541 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,959 Speaker 2: right now. Unless things change, and we're not seeing any change. 542 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: We're not seeing any attempt to change. We're seeing let's 543 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: keep trying again. Can this happen again? Will it work again? No, 544 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: it doesn't. Sean and I can't go past seventy pitches. 545 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: Code I sang, it can't go more than four innings, 546 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: frankiemon does. Can't get anybody out, This offense can't score runs. 547 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: Like it's just game after game. We keep hitting our 548 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: heads into the wall, being like, maybe this one won't hurt, 549 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 2: and it hurts again every single time. 550 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: That one, this one Sunday for the first time, really 551 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: didn't hurt that much, right again. 552 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: I think that's just like numb. I think it's just 553 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: I think for the Mets players, that's like, that's a 554 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: crushing loss. I think for Mets fans, you're just like 555 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 2: whatever at this point, man, Like I Monday, thank God, 556 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: we don't have a game tomorrow. 557 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: It's almost like they need something crazy to happen. Like 558 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: the big thing last year that got that galvanized this 559 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: team was the insane or Hitlopa situation. Yeah, it's almost 560 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: like we need something insane to happen, like like there 561 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: needs like there needs to be some real airing grievances 562 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: inside this clubhouse. 563 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 2: Everybody goes around you like, all right, first Ronnie Mauricio, 564 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: who's one player that stinks right now it needs to 565 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: do their job better. And then he says someone and 566 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: then that guy gets pissed. They start yelling at each 567 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 2: other like we need there needs to be something. There's 568 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: no juice at all with the seams, and there feels 569 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,239 Speaker 2: like there's no leader top to bottom as well. 570 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: It's a feeling of like constipation. Again that does reflect 571 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: poorly on both Lindor and Alonso. Alonzo and Mi Nemo's 572 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: Neimo and Alonso's the longest tenure players and Lindor is 573 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: a the facto captain. And then also there's a reflection 574 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: on Solo because he was the guy that got added 575 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: to this clubhouse. Everything's doing on the field is great, 576 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: and we all know what is happening in the clubhouse, 577 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: but we do know when you add a player of 578 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: that team who makes that much money, it is definitely 579 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: a vibe shifts and it seems like there hasn't been 580 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: like a full on gelling. And then it also there's 581 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: a reflection now also in David Stearns because this year 582 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: again we tried to do the pack the patchwork pitching thing, 583 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: and when we do the patchwork pitching thing, which we 584 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: like and we still think objectively looking at the way 585 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: pitching free agency went this offseason, it was probably still 586 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: the right decision. Corden Burns blew his arm out Max 587 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: Freedz now Max three for two months of doing with 588 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: the Mets not very good. And then like again the 589 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: guy at the sign I think you and I actually 590 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: really want it with Nathan Valdi, but didn't really seem 591 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: like he was ever considering leaving Texas Rangers instantly. There 592 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: was It took a it took a few months, but 593 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 1: there was no murmur There was no rumor about him 594 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: going anywhere else. And then the other guy who was 595 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: like the weird one was Nick Poveda, but that was 596 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: almost just the Padres locked into that because of how 597 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: poor they were, Like that was something that every team 598 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: was like shit at the end of the off season. 599 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: You cannot really forecast the guy Paveta signed for four million. 600 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: But the problem when you do. 601 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: The patchwork pitching thing is that when you don't have 602 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: the depth of minor leagues ready yet, and whether or 603 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 1: not you think that's Brot and mcclaim were ready yet, 604 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: Internally the organization did not think they're ready because they 605 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: never opted to use them. So when you get the 606 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: bad injury luck like the Mets had, then your fifty 607 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: to percentile outcome shifts lower, and our fifties percentile outcome 608 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: already we need some smoking mirrors to get to. So 609 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: now you have injuries to you're the guy was supposed 610 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: to be two guys supposed to be your top two guys, 611 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: another guy was supposed to be a back end guy, 612 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: and another guy in Griffith Canny. We keep forgetting about 613 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: who's supposed to be a solid backing guy. Who was 614 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: a solid back end guy. Now it moves the further away. 615 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: So we now that depth in the miners to replace 616 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: these guys. Things start to snowball, and then you then 617 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: you go on a couple months straight. 618 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 2: Now no one goes six innings. Yeah, it's insane that 619 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 2: David Peerce is the only guy in the last fifty 620 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: starts by other starters that has gotten six plus sittings. 621 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: It's insane that one guy hasn't gotten once in two months. 622 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 2: That's crazy. That's unbelievable when you say it out loud, 623 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 2: for something like that to happen. That being said, I 624 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: don't think it's the end all be all. I think 625 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 2: it's an insane stat The Brewers pictures go five innings 626 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: every single game and their bullpens locked down, and they 627 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 2: still win baseball games like they have the eleventh ranked 628 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: innings per start in the National League. We saw that 629 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 2: on S and Y today. They flashed that, and I'm like, Okay, 630 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,239 Speaker 2: I think both things can be true. That's need their 631 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: pictures go longer, and also, at the same time, we 632 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 2: don't need to force them to go longer when they 633 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 2: don't have it, because then you get into the Shawm 634 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: and I situation that we saw today. Totally. 635 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: I think that's also the thing that we've talked about 636 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: for a while where it seems like there's a severed connection, 637 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: severed piece of communication between the front office and the manager, where. 638 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 2: Like there's a severed connection between the coaching and the manager. 639 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: Because we heard Mendoza mention the thing about how nobody 640 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: makes adjustments like that feels like that's on you guys 641 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: to help them. 642 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: It's just everything is lost and it seems like they 643 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: want to be like, we have to get a guy 644 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: through six, but it's like now if it's at the 645 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: sacrifice of the actual gaming play in the field, there's 646 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: two starts in a row now where they try to 647 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: push on Nai and I understand that Sean mna I 648 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: has like a bit of a leadership role in this clubhouse. 649 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: He's also the pitcher on the staff who makes the 650 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: most money. That does make you de facto looked at 651 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: by the rest of the players the ace and air quotes. 652 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: But if you don't put we know he's pitching with 653 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: loose bodies in his elbow. We see him throwing eighty 654 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: nine to ninety mileni hour fastballs when he gets a couple, 655 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,239 Speaker 1: like a couple dozen pitches into these starts, like if 656 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: you don't have it, you going the extra inning hurts 657 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: the team. And then you look on the flip side 658 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: where DL Hall just comes in the fifth inning completely 659 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: steadies this game. 660 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: Pitches with tons of energy. 661 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: Tons of emotion, and that's the role that I wish 662 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: that we had one of our young guys pitching in 663 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: that we've been asking for that for months, and it 664 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: does seem like now maybe one of those guys get 665 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: a shot. And Nolan McClain pitched Sunday on four days 666 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: rest for the first time all season. He went through 667 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: seventy five pitches, so maybe that's getting him ready in 668 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: a little bit. 669 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 2: But it's also like. 670 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: Since June, we've been asking for these guys to do that, 671 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: and again since then, we still haven't had any pitchers 672 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: give us length. We knew we were going to be 673 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: nursing Manaia and Sanga for the whole month of July anyway, 674 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: and Holmes it just made sense to have some intentional 675 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: mop up guys in his bullpen. 676 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 2: The Bruces have done this with dl Hall all. 677 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: Seasons with Aaron Ashby, and Ashby's not working smaller, smaller outings, 678 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: But it's just it made sense. I can if they 679 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: don't think they're ready, that's the reason, but like they're 680 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: probably better than what's been going on. 681 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: The big difference too, is like Hagen Miant is our 682 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: mop up guy right now, and he just he doesn't 683 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 2: have the juice that Dale Hall has like he did 684 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: ninety five. Like Dale that stuff that same thing with 685 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 2: Nolan McLean. And that's why that's where I was gonna 686 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 2: lead to, is I think that's just got to be 687 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 2: their spot now, like if you if you don't want 688 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: them to start right now, like he starts. Did this 689 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 2: in Milwaukee. We talked about it. He did this with Woodruff, 690 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: he did this with Burns. This is the thing that 691 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: he's done. Unless me and you don't know the full picture, 692 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: which is of course possible, but like you're pretty locked 693 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: into pitching stuff. You can see things, You're able to 694 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 2: to understand what's going on. It's not like it's at 695 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 2: this this level that's unintelligible for you. I can't really 696 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: see how you can just not give one of these 697 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: guys that spot instead of Hagenman, because, like it is 698 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: so valuable, especially with how the starting pitching is, to 699 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 2: have someone who's got stuff, who's got some juice, who 700 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: can get outs at the major league level for multiple 701 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 2: innings because the need it badly. 702 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: The dog days of summer means is time for the 703 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: boys of Summer to kick it into gear. And the 704 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: best way to cash in on your baseball IQ is 705 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: with DraftKings Sports Book. 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You're like, how are 731 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: we going to handle the pitching at the end of 732 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: the year, because there's a lot of guys who don't 733 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: have innings, there's a lot of guys who are gonna 734 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: need innings, Like, how do we handle this? And it 735 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: seems like the Mets and David Sturts don't have the answer. 736 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: Still, another thing that we've talked about a lot, which 737 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: is shout out of good account on Twitter Mets Analytics 738 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: about the Mets attack direction this year that then the 739 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: team that hits at the opposite field as much as 740 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: anybody in this league. 741 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: We did the we did. 742 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: Fifty five minutes on that, you know, like the first 743 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: the third week of June talking about that it's a 744 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: big problem. And of course today the Mets hit multiple 745 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: ops of field home runs. But still it's just like 746 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: when you're not getting the amount of the quality on 747 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: your contact that you think you should be getting that's 748 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: usually the reason why. And this team continues to hit 749 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: the ball the opps away without authority. It's just like, 750 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: all these things are that we talked about are coming 751 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: back to bite this team in the ass, and it's 752 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: just like. 753 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: Where was the awareness of any of these situations. I 754 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: gave you the stat the other day when I was 755 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: diving deep into just like random met stats, and the 756 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: reason why, like pulling the baseball so great, the reason 757 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 2: why going center to left field if you're a righty, 758 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: or center to right field if you're a lefty, because 759 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: you can work the middle of the field, but it's 760 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: got to be pull side. When you work the middle 761 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: of the field to the opposite field, that's where flyballs 762 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: go to die. That's where you get out. That's where 763 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: you stop making good contact. Pete Alonso, when he pulls 764 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: the baseball in the air, hits a home run forty 765 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: five percent of the time the ball's in the air. 766 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: That's not even one of the highest rates in the league. 767 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 2: Christian Yellich has seventy five percent of the time where 768 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: he puts a flyball in the air to the poll side, 769 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: it's a home run, which is crazy or a flyball, 770 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: I should say, not necessarily in the air. So when 771 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: Pete puts a flyball to the pull side, forty five 772 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: percent of the time it's a home run. When he 773 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: goes to opposite field, it's like nine percent. I feel 774 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: like that's all you need to know, is like, hey, 775 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 2: it's harder to hit home runs. It's harder to do 776 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: damage when you go opposite field. When there's two strikes 777 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: and the pitches on the outside corner take the ball 778 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 2: the other way, put the ball in play. We saw 779 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: the Brewers do that beautifully against us, And that's where 780 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: I totally agree METSI to make more contact, Messie, put 781 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: the ball in play. Mets take so many strike threes, 782 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: like totally fine, but these zero strike counts, the one 783 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: strike counts, you have to attack. You have to be 784 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: looking to do damage. And at times I feel like 785 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 2: the Mets are, like you said, looking to go opposite field. 786 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: There was a pitch today, Pete was one oh to 787 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: dl Hall, one oh. You're in the driver's seat. You 788 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 2: got one spot you're looking for that baseball. DL Hall 789 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: throws them alow and in fastball that's too far in 790 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: and Pete flares it to right field. I was like, dude, 791 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 2: you had no idea what you were doing at the play. 792 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 2: You went up there and said, fuck it, let's see 793 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: what happens. That can't happen. You have to have better approach. 794 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: The game is hard, it's moving fast, it's easier said 795 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: than done. But that's why they're the professional baseball players. 796 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: That's why they're out there, and that's why none of 797 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: us are playing. That's why we're at home listening and 798 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: watching them. But they need to execute. There's no execution 799 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: from top to bottom. 800 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: And another thing that's funny about this series, you could 801 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: feel the absolute, unvarnished optimism and positivity from this Brewers 802 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: fan base, And how could you not because everything's going right, 803 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: But like it's just such a juxposition to where we 804 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: are and where the Mets are right now. When Joey 805 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: Ortiz had that that bat that was still against Manaya 806 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: in the fourth inding, Joey Ortiz comes to the plate, 807 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: he sucks. As literally the worst qualified hitter in baseball. 808 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: He entered this game with I think a five seventy 809 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: nine OPS. 810 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: And that's with his grand slamming it against us. 811 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: But the Brewers fans when he's at the plate, the 812 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: nine hitter, who's the worst qualified hitter in baseball. Say 813 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: it for a second time, a huge disappointment. And again 814 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: this he was the main piece they got back for 815 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: the Corby and Burns trade and he's having the season 816 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: he was good last year, So j and Del Hall 817 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: just so imagine if we got that return for a 818 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: superstar for the Mets. Met Mets fans would be crucifying 819 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: people making decisions. But the Brewis fans are chanting Joey, Joey, 820 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, holy shit, this is the worst 821 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: hitler in baseball and these fans are like, go get 822 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: them Joey. It's like that's I wish we had that 823 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: positivity like we had last year again, but I have 824 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: And I also I don't blame everyone for being negative 825 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. 826 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 3: Now. 827 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: I think it's just funny to see the two sides 828 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: of the same coin right now, two teams going to 829 00:32:58,760 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: complete opposite directions. 830 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: Like we said that boo birds are gonna be allowed 831 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: on Tuesday, I'll be there. Are you gonna boo? Oh 832 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: my bad? 833 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna boo off the bat If there's some 834 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: if there's a booing situation that comes. I don't think 835 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: I booed a Mets team, And since I was like 836 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: a kid, I think I might have a little in 837 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, maybe a little bit. We were also 838 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: mentally we were not really all there two now neither yeah, 839 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: but we were on the way out, like all three 840 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: of us, three pieces in the pod. But guy to 841 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: banger tweet from Mike Fakara legend right now. Nice Mets 842 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: have spent nineteen years trying to forget the two thousand 843 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: and six Cardinals really good start ship. But Saint Louis 844 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: had two seven game losing streaks that year as well 845 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: as an eight game losing streak, all of them coming after. 846 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 2: The middle of June. That's an insane tweet. 847 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: That's but that fucking I'm back in because that's the 848 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: other part about all this. This team fucking is ass 849 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: right now. 850 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: Is such ass. But we have such ass. 851 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: We have a gift turbo mega ass. But we have 852 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: a gift from Rob Manfred that he's bastardized the game 853 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: that we love and he lets mediocre teams into the 854 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: postseason every single year. And while we're mediocre teams since 855 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: that Reds are also mediocre team. We're gonna fight it 856 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: out for this wild card spot, two mediocre teams coughing 857 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: baby verse coughing baby for. 858 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 2: The next six weeks, and we suck. I don't think. 859 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're going together. I can't not 860 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: confident we're going to get it. But luckily the Reds 861 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: also aren't that good. We go in saidy for three 862 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: games and we don't have to go maybe, I mean, Ohio, 863 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: we timed that up and I was taking that'd be 864 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: kind of fun actually, but it's just like it's as 865 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: bad as this is, Like it would be worse if 866 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: this if baseball was if we were playing the old 867 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: school baseball, and like we'd be fucking cooked. 868 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, one wildcard team or even two, I'd be like, shit, dad. 869 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: And also, while we're saying that we are so much 870 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: worse than the good teams in National League, oh yeah, 871 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: the Phillies. And I told this too like a month 872 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: ago and yelled at before. The Phillies are so much 873 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: better than us, it's not even funny. Every single position group, 874 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: the Padres are fucking awesome. The Padres are rolling right now. 875 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 2: They went out, they went out and made their team 876 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 2: better too. They went out like O'Hearn and Loreano and 877 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 2: Mason Miller and they said, we did too well. We 878 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 2: just went for the bullpen. I know we need our differences. 879 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 2: That Like, we had a good team on paper going 880 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 2: into the year. Nobody's playing well. They didn't have those 881 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 2: players on paper. They went out and got those good players. 882 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 2: So tip your cap to the bodies making their team better. 883 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: There's also definitely something emotionally mentally that happens to a 884 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: baseball team when you know you've traded your best prospect, 885 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like the players in the 886 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: clubhouse are aware, not to the level of some of 887 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: us to cover the game are, but like they're aware 888 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: of a Leo de Fries and like what he's considered, 889 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: what he is, how much money he made, especially as 890 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: an international guy. 891 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 2: The guys know that. 892 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: So when you see that you're general manager. I'm not 893 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm not advocating the mess of trade all of the 894 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 1: top problems, no, but I'm saying, like the good deadline 895 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: they could have had a deadline. The mess up boys won, 896 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: won the championship and out of the park baseball. But 897 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: that's neither here nor there. But that's a signal to 898 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: your clubhouse, like hey, fucking put up a shut up time, 899 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: And I think there has to be I think about it. 900 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: I'll never know how realistic these things are, but like 901 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 1: I love I love the scene in Moneyball and Billy 902 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 1: Bean walking into the clubhouse. It takes a bad fucking 903 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 1: smashes the speaker, and that's like, can never see David 904 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: Stearns do anything like that, but I would love to see. 905 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: And I even told you this yesterday and we were 906 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: having late nights UVLOCKI in a story. But I objectively 907 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: like the fact that Mendozan Stern's going from the media, 908 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: and like, keep it cool, because if you're someone that 909 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: keeps it cool generally, then you start to freak out. 910 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: That could scare the people who you're who you're you're 911 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: meant to be leading. If you're a fiery guy and 912 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: I like the fire, but you keep it cool, you 913 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: should keep it cool. 914 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 2: Internally. 915 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: There should start being some fire. There should be some 916 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: something should slam against the wall, something should bang, like 917 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: something should happen right now where you have to just 918 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: absolutely like completely upend everything going on internally with fibes 919 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 1: in the team. 920 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, something's gotta happen. I'm a little bit different. I 921 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 2: think while being calm, cool, collected is good, I think 922 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 2: that's what makes the blow up even more valuable, is 923 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 2: that because that's when you know that there's a frustration 924 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 2: that things are unacceptable. 925 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: Sure, blow up is different internally and externally. You should 926 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: be blowing up to the media like i'. 927 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 2: You're not gonna go to the media and be like 928 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: franciscool indoor has been dog shit for two months and 929 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 2: Brandon im okaynt hit. But I think there should be 930 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 2: something at the clubhouse. Inside the clubhouse, you can say 931 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 2: whatever you want to those guys, do whatever you want. 932 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 2: We'll never know what's said to the media. I would 933 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 2: like to see, am I am I am. I gonna 934 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 2: just say, James, we need a Terry Collins fucking pep 935 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 2: talk right now. We need a little something. They're just 936 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 2: just just something to shake it up. Something has to 937 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 2: change because I know it doesn't actually matter what Mendoza 938 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 2: says to the media. The questions are nonsense, the answers 939 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 2: are nonsense. It doesn't matter. It's a futile exercise. It's 940 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 2: just they do it because they have to. The papers 941 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 2: have to write s and why it pays a lot 942 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 2: of money for this, but like just just a little something, 943 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 2: a little something to put on the bulletin board, a 944 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 2: little something to spark somebody. Maybe maybe you talk to 945 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 2: Lindor and you're like, hey, like are you cool if 946 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 2: I say this? And you just be like, Lindor's gotta 947 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 2: step up. He's our leader. Like even as simple as that, Francisco, 948 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 2: Lindor needs to be better. Let him know that you're 949 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 2: gonna say it, so it's not like a surprise. Yeah, 950 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 2: just just to give some sort of feeling, because there's 951 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: no there is no feeling with this team at all. 952 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 2: Positive doesn't exist, no zero oom. I would I would 953 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 2: even like to see if if we're gonna oomp, like 954 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 2: give me even a bet. There's nothing. 955 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: It's just like, yeah, it's some intern And that's why 956 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: I also like that moment last year with Lopez galvanized. 957 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: That was aom They were like, this is fucking crazy 958 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,439 Speaker 1: that I've never said anything like this in my life. 959 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: Like we need something crazy to happen where people can 960 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: kind of like you just the mentals have to change. 961 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 2: I need, like Jeff mcdeal to fight Reece Hoskins. Where 962 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 2: was ree Hoskins? Is he hurt? Yeah, he's been hurt. 963 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 2: That's why I think I have at Travon. I just 964 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 2: thought they were just playing in Dravon because he's better, 965 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,919 Speaker 2: but that that also probably will happen a few weeks. 966 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 2: Reeze Hoskins healthy. 967 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: But like this is this is time, and the Mets 968 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: have a moment in their schedule now before it gets 969 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: really fucking hard as hell, we play a lot of 970 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: good teams in September, but. 971 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 2: Like almost only good teams in September, and anything else 972 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 2: you want to say about superb Series bad. Thank god, 973 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 2: there's no game today. Everybody, enjoy time with your family, 974 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 2: and Tuesday there is a game. I'll be there. I'm 975 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 2: ready for that one. 976 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: But let's go on to the previous Brave series, because 977 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: if there was ever a moment where they were a 978 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: horrible dog, shit, miserable Land of Braves team could rip 979 00:38:59,160 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: our hearts out. 980 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 2: This is it. Yeah, no, this is their world series. 981 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,919 Speaker 2: They have nothing else to play for besides making Mets 982 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: fans miserable. And we know, we know they keep an 983 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 2: eye on on Mets people, and especially in the Braves clubhouse, 984 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 2: and a lot of players in that clubhouse with the 985 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 2: winning players that have handled this Mets team for their 986 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 2: entire careers, but pitching matchups in this series. This is going. 987 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you these these three matchups. Yeah, and 988 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna fall back in your chair ready for this? Yeah, Okay, 989 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 2: hit me, I know one of them. Tuesday seven to ten. 990 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 2: Excited to be in the ballpark for that one. 991 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: Shout out to Homie Sup, Shout out Connor going with 992 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: the little crew, Clay Holmes against Spencer Streyther. 993 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 2: Oh, he's going Tuesday. I didn't know that. 994 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: Wednesday seven to ten on FS one. I hope it's 995 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: also on SNY, but David Peterson against Carlos Carrasco a 996 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: bit of an asof. And then Thursday another night game. 997 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: I think we're both going to going to be at 998 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: that one as well. That could be time for an 999 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: Insane Train episode. You guys can just let it, let 1000 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: this whole thing out on the train with us Code 1001 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: Sanga against Bryce Elder. 1002 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 2: I mean, Specer Strider is gonna pitch well, but if 1003 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 2: the Mets, if the Mets don't knock both Carlos Carrasco 1004 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 2: out of the game and Bryce Elder before the fifth inning, 1005 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 2: Eric Schavez should Eric Schavaz and Jeremy Barnes cannot have 1006 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 2: their job on Friday morning. That that that's a declaration. Otherwise, 1007 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 2: hunger strike, hunger strike, if strike. 1008 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: If both of those guys complete five innings and and 1009 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: Eric Schovis has has his job on Friday morning, will 1010 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: you not. 1011 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 2: Eat the whole day Friday? Yeah? 1012 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: Hunger strike, hunger strike, hunger strike. I want joining the 1013 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: hunger strikes. I think those I think that that will happen. 1014 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna join you on that one. My 1015 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 1: hunger strikes are exaggerated for a reason. 1016 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 2: They both have to go five innings and the Mets, Yeah, 1017 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,479 Speaker 2: they both have to go five innings. 1018 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,959 Speaker 1: Eric Schavis keeps his job. A hunger strike Friday, hunger 1019 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: strike from Marko Friday. Keep an eye on the hunger strikes. 1020 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: Something to watch with Spencer Streither. He's not been the 1021 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: Spencer Streider of old since he came back from his 1022 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: second major elbow procedure and eternal brace. He's just lost 1023 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: a lot life on his fastball. So what happens is 1024 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: while he still tries to get swings and missus that 1025 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: fastball in the zone. The whiffrate's gone from like thirty 1026 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: percent and like seven percent. Who yeah, and specifically fastballs 1027 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: in the zone, so you have to hit them. People 1028 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: have been hitting home runs against Bencer Streither. They kind 1029 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,240 Speaker 1: of pitching home wait for that fastball, then like layoff 1030 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 1: the sliders. 1031 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 2: What about singles? How are teams getting singles off of him? 1032 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 2: I'll look into that. What about it? What about they 1033 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 2: take it the other way? How many hits of the 1034 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 2: other way for singles? Have there been? 1035 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 1: Big thing with Striyia right now again is if I'm 1036 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: able to identify this game plan from my desk in 1037 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: my room, there should be an identification of going on 1038 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: this Mets team. 1039 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 2: But if you never played a game in your life, 1040 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 2: you didn't play in the pros, Dude, you don't. I 1041 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 2: didn't play in the plays. 1042 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,479 Speaker 1: But it's it's a hit aable fastbar right now, people 1043 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: are pelting that shit. So this is the moment where 1044 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: you're going to get fastballs in the zone. Maybe again, 1045 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: maybe Spencer Striliy lasted me after this start. He throws 1046 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: twenty five percent change ups for the first time this year. 1047 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: But the plan should be the game planning should be 1048 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: attack his fastball, the game planning, cars, cross compress, Elder 1049 00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 1: should be attack everything. 1050 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,959 Speaker 2: What a I'm gonna be honest, I have like such 1051 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 2: little idea of what's going on with the Braves because 1052 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 2: they've been pretty insignificant this year. Acuna is not playing right, 1053 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 2: he's hurt, he's. 1054 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: Acuna is out, Austin Riley's out. You know who's on fire? 1055 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: Two guys? Uh not Joe Alvarez no more, much easier 1056 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: answers than that. Michael Harris. Michael Harris is now doing 1057 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: the thing where he's been unconsciously hot for like three 1058 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: straight weeks. 1059 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 2: We love that. And then the other guy is gonna 1060 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 2: be jerks and profar. No, I'll give you a hit. 1061 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 2: He's hit a woman, allegedly. Marcelo Zuna. 1062 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: Yes, Marcelo Zuna, Baseball's favorite criminal, has also been blazing hot. 1063 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: So for some reason, no one wanted to take the 1064 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: seven million dollars he was owed for the rest of 1065 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: your years. And he didn't want to play for any 1066 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: other teams either, because I guess the Braves protected him 1067 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: so much when he should have been in jail, out 1068 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: of Major League Baseball. Yeah, I understand how much he 1069 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: wanted to stay there. But these guys ops and season 1070 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: backups like eight hundred, He's completely lighting it on fire 1071 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: right now. Even Albi's is hitting a bit better like 1072 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: these guys who Sean Murphy's also hitting a better. Drake 1073 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: Balwin could be the rookie of the year in the 1074 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: National League. Who just saw his main cope Titian and 1075 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: a and what's his name Isaac Collins with the fucking 1076 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: walk off home run the second I make a YouTube 1077 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: video about him on Sunday. 1078 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 2: But it's just like this Brays team is. 1079 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: They are so excited to try to possibly step on 1080 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: our faces and they're going this is their World Series 1081 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: to do it. 1082 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 2: I will not be there Tuesday, won't be there Wednesday. 1083 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 2: I'm hoping the Mets are though. I hope the Mets 1084 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 2: make it to City Field for Tuesday and Wednesday and 1085 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 2: actually show up and play baseball game, because it's been 1086 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 2: about two weeks since the Mets have really shown up. 1087 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 2: I was on the West Coast the last time I 1088 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 2: was in Portland, last time the Mets played a good 1089 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 2: baseball game, and since then, since coming back to New 1090 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 2: York that I think there's maybe been one one decent 1091 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 2: game so fun, fun stuff for this team. Really excited 1092 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 2: and can't wait to watch on Tuesday and Wednesday. Real disaster. 1093 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: Luckily, even though we did such a quick episode after 1094 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: the end of the game. Thankfully, Franki Pepperscot's. 1095 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 2: Voicemail at the time, I need some sauce, frank I 1096 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 2: eat something. This team might some sauce. Frankie, you should 1097 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 2: make a ball and as for the club and send it, 1098 00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 2: send it and they'll throw it away. But at least 1099 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 2: there sending this au He just shows up to the 1100 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 2: players and enters a bag of ball and yes, that's 1101 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 2: just sick or just drops it there. I was just 1102 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 2: drop off a bag right by the little garage on 1103 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 2: the first side. Just a bag of ball. People, is 1104 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 2: that like? What is in there that human remains? But 1105 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 2: without further too, he is franky. 1106 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 6: Gentlemen, this is Frankie Pepper. 1107 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:19,399 Speaker 2: Is how you doing? 1108 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 4: I have something for you to hear. 1109 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 6: Okay, toilet because the mesa playing like a toilet right now. 1110 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 2: We stink. 1111 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 6: I'm getting tired. Boys. I don't know if I got 1112 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 6: nothing positive to say, so instead of saying anything that, 1113 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 6: I'm not going to say anything at all, except you know, 1114 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 6: the toilet. I wasted water for this joke, but I 1115 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,280 Speaker 6: hope it. I hope it landed. 1116 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 2: So no, he's take us left Bato close it that. 1117 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 6: I don't got anything to say. Let's hope they do something. 1118 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:04,760 Speaker 6: Take care boys. 1119 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 2: Also, maybe the toilet is a metaphor for what the 1120 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 2: Mets to do. Flush what just happened. The season starts Tuesday. 1121 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 2: Got gotta win some baseball games, Gotta play three four games, 1122 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 2: five hundred the rest of the season, make the playoffs. 1123 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: You also gotta We talked about this just off air, 1124 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,919 Speaker 1: but we can't We can't believe there's a good team 1125 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 1: inside here until we see it again. With that rest like, 1126 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: there's no more regrets to the mean, things will turn 1127 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: our way. There's more, there's no more of that benefit 1128 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: to doubt for this club anymore. We have to see 1129 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: a string of good baseball in a row. The only 1130 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: way to do that is to keep playing like I've 1131 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: gotten like the seven pitt in my stomach watching this 1132 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: team this last couple of days. The only thing that 1133 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 1: was different then was that the season was literally ending. Somehow, 1134 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: we still have seven weeks of baseball left. 1135 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 2: Believe it feels like it's gonna take there's ever there's 1136 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 2: so much baseball left to be played. 1137 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 1: We almost well, yeah, we were at one seventeen as 1138 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,399 Speaker 1: of today, so we still have fifty five forty five 1139 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: forty five games, eighteen forty four games of baseball. We 1140 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: almost have a full Dodger twenty twenty seas full circle. 1141 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 2: Right there, Math with Mark at the beginning, Math with 1142 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 2: Mark at the end. That's it. That's the Mets Up Podcast. Guys, 1143 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening, Thank you for watching. Make sure 1144 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,399 Speaker 2: you follow us on all our social media at Mets 1145 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 2: up on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. Subscribe to the Mets 1146 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 2: the Podcast YouTube channel if you want to see the 1147 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 2: video version, and if you're listening to us Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 1148 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 2: Google drops the Rain and drop us review, download and 1149 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 2: subscribe again, drop us a review, shout you. On the 1150 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 2: next episode will be taking a look at those can 1151 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,720 Speaker 2: follow James on social media at James Chiano. I'm Draftnick 1152 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 2: Mark with the c. Thank you for listening, Thank you 1153 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 2: for watching. I don't even know I can't win. Play better. 1154 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:36,439 Speaker 2: Let's go Mets. 1155 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,479 Speaker 6: Let's go Mets. 1156 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:06,839 Speaker 4: Then