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Speaker 1: Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is

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Speaker 2: We got lots, Just say.

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Speaker 3: We got lots.

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Speaker 4: What better here?

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Speaker 3: And we hope you say because we got lost, Just

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Speaker 3: say yeah, we got lots.

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Speaker 1: Just say here's Bobby.

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Speaker 4: That Welcome to another episode. Listen to.

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Speaker 1: The game's been over for like three days. But we

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Speaker 1: should do a proper post mortem of the game, so

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Speaker 1: it's not really talk about the game, but talk about

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Speaker 1: the things that are dead from the game. For example,

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Speaker 1: does Will Campbell suck? I think that's question number one,

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Speaker 1: because I think that's.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what's your definition of suck?

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Speaker 1: Not play good yet be indicative of how good he

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Speaker 1: really is?

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Speaker 4: Yes, then I would go into that category. Unfortunately, he

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Speaker 4: struggled throughout the playoffs, and he had injury late and

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Speaker 4: came back. And I will say that in his defense,

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Speaker 4: he faced for of the best defenses, and you're always

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Speaker 4: going up against their best defensive end if you're that

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Speaker 4: left tackle. But he struggled. He struggled with the power

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Speaker 4: an all time record what twenty pressures in the NFL playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was something like that.

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Speaker 5: And gave up ten sacks or something, So I know that.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you mean in the playoffs, in the playoffs, not

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Speaker 1: in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: That would have been amazing if that was the case

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Speaker 4: the super Bowl. Yeah, I was talking about playoffs. I

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Speaker 4: mean it was it was. He was on the struggle

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Speaker 4: bus all playoff long, and you saw it again in

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Speaker 4: the Super Bowl and Seattle Seahawks took advantage of it.

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Speaker 1: How much of that, though, is injury and how much

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Speaker 1: of that though, is maybe he's just not at the

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Speaker 5: Probably a little bit of both.

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Speaker 4: I mean, anytime you come back for injury, and I

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Speaker 4: don't know what exactly he was dealing with in his ailments,

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Speaker 4: so I couldn't speak to that. But at the same time,

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Speaker 4: he had struggles throughout this course of this season. You

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Speaker 4: would love to see that develop and continue you to

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Speaker 4: the season and playing his best football. That didn't happen

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Speaker 4: because of the setback I believe with the with the injury.

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, there was not

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Speaker 4: enough consistency at all throughout the season and so they

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Speaker 4: have to take a hard look at him at left

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Speaker 4: and this, that and the other. But to me, it's

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Speaker 4: a major concern because you've got a guy like Drake

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Speaker 4: May that is so talented. You've got to be able

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Speaker 1: So would the proper demotion be though, from left tackle

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Speaker 4: Potentially, but their right tackle and I'm also a rookie, also.

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Speaker 5: A rookie guard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, left guard.

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Speaker 5: Morgan Moses played well.

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Speaker 4: He played well this season for the most part, and

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Speaker 4: so yes, normally you're saying, if you're not working out

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Speaker 4: they're going to try to create a matchup. So you

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Speaker 4: can't hide him somewhere. You have to find Excuse me,

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Speaker 4: it makes me crass crying. You have to find a

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Speaker 4: position that works for him, because you gave a major

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Speaker 4: draft capital at the third Woesie the third, fifth pick

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Speaker 1: Here's my hot take. I think he's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: And I think a performance like this is way better

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Speaker 1: it was such a bad performance. I think this is

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't be embarrassed.

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Speaker 5: That's true.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I agree with that comment wholeheartedly because he's

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Speaker 5: As hard as that is.

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Speaker 4: As players at times, to go back and watch yourself fail,

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Speaker 4: you're going to grow from that. And I think he's

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Speaker 4: got one of those mentalities just listening to him in

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Speaker 4: Now it's about getting back to work and getting back

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Speaker 4: I expect that to happen.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Pats Fan, Yeah, what does your Will Campbell take? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not worried yet.

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Speaker 6: You know, if this goes into next year, bleeds in

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Speaker 6: the same since. I am a like, he's just got

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Speaker 6: to work out it, like Castle said, and I think

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Speaker 6: energy to go get better and you know, not let

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Speaker 1: I think he'll be all right next year.

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Speaker 4: I will say this though, going into next year, there's

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Speaker 4: do to get better because I know that Boston media market.

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Speaker 4: They're ruthless, and they're gonna be talking about this all

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Speaker 4: no ta's and when season starts, and if there is

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Speaker 4: a bad game early on for Will Campbell, the rumblings

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Speaker 4: because I think that'll take away from him just as

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Speaker 5: From a confidence standpoint, he was a.

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Speaker 1: Big loser, right, meaning of every one specifically, I think

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Speaker 1: he was more the big loser than Drake May was,

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Speaker 1: even though May played bad as well. If we were

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Speaker 1: It's a coordinator. I think in my opinion that that's

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Speaker 5: Well, I think you lose as a team, Bobby.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, if we have a bad day

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Speaker 4: number one loser?

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Speaker 5: Always?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm at the bottom of the total pole. And

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Speaker 4: Brandon Kevin are going to be took.

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Speaker 1: Too many Pats fans and Pats players.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, you win as a team, you lose

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Speaker 4: as a team. And yes, it was a bad offensive performance,

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Speaker 4: great scheme, and they've been playing well. I don't think

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Speaker 4: it was just Will Campbell that created some of those pressures.

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Speaker 4: He was most, I'm saying he was most, but the

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Speaker 4: offensive line collectively didn't play well in that game. Drake

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Speaker 4: May obviously had the turnovers, which had been an issue

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Speaker 4: throughout the playoffs as well. And you're always going to

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Speaker 4: be the focal point if you're the quarterback. And Josh McDaniels, yes,

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Speaker 4: he's probably sitting there reevaluating how he called the game,

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Speaker 4: second guessing, hey, should I have done this differently? Should

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Speaker 5: But the is they couldn't ge anything going. I mean

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Speaker 4: Six yards in the first half.

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Speaker 5: That is brutal.

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Speaker 1: So Will Campbell Number two is Drake May. Does Drake

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Speaker 1: May suck post mortem? He had a really bad playoffs?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: He did.

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Speaker 1: And his nickname is officially changed. It's no longer Drake

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Speaker 1: May wow on him tough today Now I'm not Yeah, everybody,

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Speaker 1: this is separation from the game now, right.

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Speaker 4: He's a young player. I mean absolutely, second year in

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Speaker 4: At the same time, he knows he's got to play

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Speaker 4: And if he would have pulled this off, it would

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Speaker 4: And now he's got to look back in the mirror

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Speaker 4: and say how can we get over that home.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the Patriots just they need to put

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Speaker 1: mirrors up in every room in the facility, and everybody'

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Speaker 1: used to be looking in the mirror all the time. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's nothing but mirror looking. Today, We're all going to look.

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Speaker 4: In the mirror, staring in the mirror and say, hey,

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Speaker 4: what do you got today?

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Speaker 1: Drake May threw for a bunch of yards really, great

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Speaker 5: He threw for a bunch of yards really in the

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, I'm talking about just over the season.

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Speaker 1: But again, when you look at it as a body

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Speaker 1: did play in the playoffs. They played Denver's backup quarterback

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Speaker 1: like it was pretty much a kiss from all the

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Speaker 1: angels in heaven. Right schedule, But did you watch.

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Speaker 4: The season like a lot of the down the field throws,

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Speaker 4: the accuracies, I hear you. He played above and beyond

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Speaker 4: the expectation of what it was going to be this

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Speaker 4: which makes no You're just you're playing devil's advocate, being.

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Speaker 1: A guy to ask questions. I think next year could

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Speaker 1: possibly be rough with that first play schedule. To my

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Speaker 1: Patriots guys here, now you'll be playing a first play schedule.

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Speaker 5: It always is.

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Speaker 4: When you go out and you win the division and

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Speaker 4: He won a Super Bowl, for God's sake. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: think he answered all the questions. Yeah, he's pretty good. Okay,

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Speaker 1: He is now that you cannot take away from him,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was fine.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't six and a half great, six and a

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking about. See, that's playing. That's good football.

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Speaker 4: You could probably push that whatever that is down down

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Speaker 1: Ramps like the jumps.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably loseelu. Yeah, if I had to pick with that, Like,

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Speaker 4: Well, that's part of the louse. You got to actually

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Speaker 1: That's what I think I could do. That's about it.

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Speaker 4: There's one event that has one person, and there's.

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Speaker 4: How do they steer by the way.

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Speaker 1: Probably like a sled when you're sledding down a hill.

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Speaker 4: That you must have some kind of controls here underneath

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Speaker 1: And that four person though, I don't know if there's

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Speaker 1: Now it's all over, It's it's me America. Yeah, and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what about cross country skiing?

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Speaker 4: So I think you have to have some serious stam

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Speaker 4: It would take me a long time.

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Speaker 1: Sound like Summer Olympics a lot more, but because we

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Speaker 4: But I'm just amazed at the athletes. The figure skater

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Speaker 1: All I know is they call him what quadzilla? That's

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Speaker 1: all I know. I don't feel like they've marketed these

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Speaker 4: Know the game, I just think he just won the

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Speaker 1: Yeah he did win.

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Speaker 5: God, quad God, Julia.

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Speaker 1: They don't call hi quadzilla. I see quad if they

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Speaker 4: Actually, they should definitely do a short.

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Speaker 1: Cause I don't think I made that one up. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go. The odds to win the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: next year already as soon as the game, I love

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Speaker 1: betting Number one is Seattle. Again, it's fair. They're tied

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Speaker 5: The Rams, Yeah, I could see that.

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Speaker 4: I mean the way that that NFC Championship game went

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Speaker 1: Off of last year, go with three. Guess again, go

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Speaker 1: with three Seattle, the Rams and then forty nine forty

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Speaker 4: They didn't make the top ten af AFC team. Do

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Speaker 4: I go with the Chief? No, maybe.

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Speaker 5: Let's go with the Bills.

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Speaker 1: The Bills at number three plus eleven hundred, Eagles at four,

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Speaker 1: Patriots at five. I'm honestly surprised they're high.

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Speaker 4: To god, you guys just I know, I don't know why.

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Speaker 4: I don't hate you're in the Super Bowl. I know

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Speaker 4: it's still seventeen and four. It's so fresh.

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Speaker 1: I know, give it a week.

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Speaker 4: It's his second season. For God's sakes, They're going to

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Speaker 1: Nobody's arguing with Yeah, okay, you are. I'm not sorry.

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Speaker 4: I believe they're in number five.

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Speaker 1: But I wasn't arguing with anyone. I just can't. I

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Speaker 5: I think the Chiefs are going to have a comeback

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Speaker 1: Plus fifteen hundred, and they're going to play a weaker

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Speaker 1: schedule like part of what happened last year. Obviously a

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Speaker 5: They've won three eight ten years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they went to five Super Bowls and won three

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Speaker 1: Both the Bengals and the Chiefs are drafting up high.

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Speaker 1: I think both of those teams can be really good

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Speaker 5: So Tennessee Titans aren't on there.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think they put them on the list,

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Speaker 4: I think this is a team though that Look, they

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Speaker 4: million dollars in cap space that they can go out

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Speaker 4: and spend. They've got a high draft pick as well,

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Speaker 4: They've got draft capital. So I mean, you sit here

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Speaker 1: I think one of the things that the Titans have

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Speaker 4: Yes, the owner needs to stay out of it, and

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Speaker 4: bringing in from a personal personnel standpoint, and then let

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Speaker 4: the chips fall where they may.

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Speaker 1: I love letting the chips ball me.

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Speaker 5: I mean, isn't it the best plays chips.

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Speaker 1: On the ground, MVP odd. Do you want to player?

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you MVP odd.

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Speaker 5: Let's play, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, you bet one hundred bucks, go ahead, okay, I

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Speaker 1: bet one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Josh Allen, so.

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Speaker 1: Forty one, one hundred bucks. He is at number one, the

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Speaker 1: I believe he was third this year because it went Stafford,

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, so I got that number two. I am

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Speaker 4: gonna go with Matthew Stafford. No, no, not on the

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Speaker 1: No, well, not in the top five, three, five, six,

442
00:19:40,696 --> 00:19:43,376
Speaker 1: at eight, Lamar Jackson at number two, Lamar Jackson. So

443
00:19:43,455 --> 00:19:47,136
Speaker 1: it's Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson at number three, Jalen Hurts,

444
00:19:47,176 --> 00:19:50,376
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Patty. They don't make it one year and

445
00:19:50,416 --> 00:19:54,776
Speaker 1: everybody sleeps. He's back at plus one thousand, Herbert at four,

446
00:19:54,856 --> 00:19:59,495
Speaker 1: Borrow at five, Drake May at five, dak At I

447
00:19:59,536 --> 00:20:03,735
Speaker 1: guess that would be seven, and Stafford at eight. Jak's

448
00:20:03,735 --> 00:20:04,576
Speaker 1: always in the mix.

449
00:20:04,735 --> 00:20:05,336
Speaker 4: He's in the mix.

450
00:20:06,016 --> 00:20:07,295
Speaker 5: From I mean, he's.

451
00:20:07,176 --> 00:20:10,535
Speaker 1: Always pre and mid preseason, Dacks in the mix. The

452
00:20:10,576 --> 00:20:13,735
Speaker 1: middle of the year, Dak's usually in the mix. But man,

453
00:20:14,416 --> 00:20:15,576
Speaker 1: the Cowboys just don't win.

454
00:20:16,336 --> 00:20:18,096
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they've got They've got a lot of draft

455
00:20:18,096 --> 00:20:20,176
Speaker 4: capital too, don't. They have two first rounders this year

456
00:20:21,016 --> 00:20:26,056
Speaker 4: and they're talking about bringing Pickens back, which, yeah, they're

457
00:20:26,056 --> 00:20:26,816
Speaker 4: franchising them.

458
00:20:26,776 --> 00:20:28,455
Speaker 1: Right, so they're not talking about.

459
00:20:28,176 --> 00:20:30,816
Speaker 4: Then he's gonna have Ceedee Lamb and Pickens back.

460
00:20:30,856 --> 00:20:32,496
Speaker 5: He'll he'll put up some numbers for sure.

461
00:20:32,576 --> 00:20:33,776
Speaker 1: Would you want to be franchised?

462
00:20:34,176 --> 00:20:34,496
Speaker 4: I did.

463
00:20:34,576 --> 00:20:36,016
Speaker 1: I was franchise if you're him.

464
00:20:37,856 --> 00:20:39,336
Speaker 4: I think that's the only way to keep him in

465
00:20:39,376 --> 00:20:42,535
Speaker 4: building without paying him and committing long term money to

466
00:20:42,576 --> 00:20:45,215
Speaker 4: somebody that has obviously proven that he can be a

467
00:20:45,256 --> 00:20:46,936
Speaker 4: headache and go off the rails at times.

468
00:20:46,975 --> 00:20:48,295
Speaker 5: Even last season. You saw it.

469
00:20:48,696 --> 00:20:52,735
Speaker 4: He's got a temperament that you sit there as ownership

470
00:20:53,176 --> 00:20:55,975
Speaker 4: and you try to put that aside because he is

471
00:20:56,056 --> 00:20:59,735
Speaker 4: a phenomenal player. If he could ever get the mental

472
00:20:59,776 --> 00:21:02,656
Speaker 4: side of it together with the physical side, you'd sit

473
00:21:02,696 --> 00:21:06,296
Speaker 4: there and go, Man, he's probably the best, one of

474
00:21:06,336 --> 00:21:09,176
Speaker 4: the best wide receivers in the game, but he can

475
00:21:09,215 --> 00:21:11,495
Speaker 4: become a distraction, and that's the worry I think with

476
00:21:11,536 --> 00:21:14,656
Speaker 4: every organization and George Pickens going back to the Steelers

477
00:21:14,856 --> 00:21:16,856
Speaker 4: even last year at different points in the season. But

478
00:21:17,256 --> 00:21:19,735
Speaker 4: if you just talk about raw talent, my goodness, the

479
00:21:19,776 --> 00:21:20,896
Speaker 4: guy special.

480
00:21:20,776 --> 00:21:22,416
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be franchised if I were him,

481
00:21:22,416 --> 00:21:24,455
Speaker 1: and I would be a bit annoyed. Yeah, you're making

482
00:21:24,455 --> 00:21:26,896
Speaker 1: good money, You're making the average of the top five

483
00:21:26,936 --> 00:21:31,696
Speaker 1: wide receivers or whatever that that is. But the sentiment was,

484
00:21:31,776 --> 00:21:34,536
Speaker 1: as he was dominating this year, he's gonna get paid.

485
00:21:34,576 --> 00:21:36,776
Speaker 1: He's gonna get paid. He's gonna get paid. He's getting paid,

486
00:21:36,776 --> 00:21:39,615
Speaker 1: but he's getting paid on a one year deal. And

487
00:21:39,656 --> 00:21:46,335
Speaker 1: then he's also risking injury and headache. Yes, because if

488
00:21:46,376 --> 00:21:48,455
Speaker 1: he gets hurt or if he's a headache again, I

489
00:21:48,495 --> 00:21:52,535
Speaker 1: think that hurts what he's worth going forward. Or if

490
00:21:52,576 --> 00:21:54,096
Speaker 1: you're him, you were just gonna get paid if they

491
00:21:54,136 --> 00:21:55,736
Speaker 1: didn't franchise you, You're going to go somewhere and you're

492
00:21:55,735 --> 00:21:57,096
Speaker 1: gonna get a multi year deal and you're going to

493
00:21:57,136 --> 00:21:59,296
Speaker 1: get paid. So if I'm him, I'm a bit irritated

494
00:21:59,336 --> 00:22:01,016
Speaker 1: that I have to play through the franchise tag.

495
00:22:01,096 --> 00:22:01,936
Speaker 5: There's no doubt about that.

496
00:22:01,975 --> 00:22:03,295
Speaker 4: And I think that's the issue with a lot of

497
00:22:03,296 --> 00:22:06,616
Speaker 4: guys to get franchised, they've proven them else, they're here

498
00:22:06,656 --> 00:22:09,975
Speaker 4: to set up a second contract, maybe it's a third contract,

499
00:22:10,176 --> 00:22:12,096
Speaker 4: go out and make their money, and that's where you

500
00:22:12,136 --> 00:22:15,055
Speaker 4: make your money in the NFL. And for him to

501
00:22:15,136 --> 00:22:19,376
Speaker 4: be franchised, there's got to be some discontent with the

502
00:22:19,376 --> 00:22:21,775
Speaker 4: fact that he's now got to go prove it again

503
00:22:22,056 --> 00:22:25,176
Speaker 4: and he's got to somewhat maybe keep himself in check,

504
00:22:25,296 --> 00:22:27,215
Speaker 4: which might be a good thing for the Cowboys.

505
00:22:27,296 --> 00:22:29,296
Speaker 1: He almost kept himself in check last year until the

506
00:22:29,376 --> 00:22:31,536
Speaker 1: end of the season, right, Like that was the story,

507
00:22:31,576 --> 00:22:34,216
Speaker 1: Like Pickens is awesome, and also when ceed was out

508
00:22:34,215 --> 00:22:36,856
Speaker 1: a bit, he definitely showed he could be a number one.

509
00:22:37,696 --> 00:22:40,616
Speaker 1: But he also kept his mental game right for most

510
00:22:40,656 --> 00:22:42,096
Speaker 1: of the year until he went off and then he

511
00:22:42,176 --> 00:22:43,015
Speaker 1: was off again.

512
00:22:42,975 --> 00:22:45,856
Speaker 4: Right, And that's the issue that you have as any

513
00:22:45,936 --> 00:22:48,815
Speaker 4: organization that are going to bring in George Pickens is

514
00:22:48,856 --> 00:22:51,735
Speaker 4: you have to calculate that into the equation and say,

515
00:22:52,416 --> 00:22:55,015
Speaker 4: is he a guy that at some point is going

516
00:22:55,096 --> 00:22:57,856
Speaker 4: to be more of a distraction than a help on.

517
00:22:57,776 --> 00:22:58,616
Speaker 5: The football field.

518
00:22:58,856 --> 00:23:00,815
Speaker 4: If it was just football and you turned on the

519
00:23:00,816 --> 00:23:03,535
Speaker 4: film and you go, oh, I pay that guy today,

520
00:23:03,656 --> 00:23:06,336
Speaker 4: four year, whatever it is, whatever your dollar amount is,

521
00:23:06,376 --> 00:23:09,215
Speaker 4: I'll take you. You'll be your number one. But the fact

522
00:23:09,296 --> 00:23:12,735
Speaker 4: is he's proven time and time again that he does

523
00:23:12,816 --> 00:23:14,095
Speaker 4: have that quality about himself.

524
00:23:14,136 --> 00:23:15,096
Speaker 5: And that's the issue.

525
00:23:15,376 --> 00:23:17,495
Speaker 1: When you got franchised, was it in New England and

526
00:23:17,495 --> 00:23:19,496
Speaker 1: they held you to go to Kansas City?

527
00:23:19,735 --> 00:23:20,576
Speaker 5: That's exactly right.

528
00:23:20,896 --> 00:23:23,856
Speaker 4: It was because there was some complications with Brady coming back,

529
00:23:24,176 --> 00:23:26,696
Speaker 4: and so they franchised me so I wouldn't walk out

530
00:23:26,735 --> 00:23:29,976
Speaker 4: of that building. And then once they understood that Brady's

531
00:23:30,016 --> 00:23:32,256
Speaker 4: coming back, that's when they had my rights and got

532
00:23:32,296 --> 00:23:34,775
Speaker 4: to make the decision basically for me of who they

533
00:23:34,776 --> 00:23:35,616
Speaker 4: were going to trade me to.

534
00:23:36,096 --> 00:23:38,815
Speaker 1: Was it so cool to get paid though? Yeah, I mean,

535
00:23:39,136 --> 00:23:40,976
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be awesome, not gonna lie.

536
00:23:41,016 --> 00:23:43,736
Speaker 4: When I saw them they sent over the franchise contract

537
00:23:43,856 --> 00:23:45,535
Speaker 4: and I was sitting there, I was like, hold on,

538
00:23:45,576 --> 00:23:47,696
Speaker 4: what does that say? It's the average of what I

539
00:23:47,776 --> 00:23:50,015
Speaker 4: really didn't understand. I knew that they had my rights,

540
00:23:50,056 --> 00:23:52,215
Speaker 4: but didn't understand what that meant in terms of money,

541
00:23:52,776 --> 00:23:55,296
Speaker 4: and it was obviously I was a seventh round draft pick,

542
00:23:55,616 --> 00:23:58,815
Speaker 4: making league minimum for the first four years of my career.

543
00:23:58,856 --> 00:24:00,576
Speaker 4: And then when I saw that, I was like, just

544
00:24:00,616 --> 00:24:02,255
Speaker 4: tell me where do I sign? Just I don't need

545
00:24:02,256 --> 00:24:06,455
Speaker 4: to read any of this, just give me it. Boom.

546
00:24:06,576 --> 00:24:09,936
Speaker 4: I signed it and then parlayed that into my contract

547
00:24:09,975 --> 00:24:14,056
Speaker 4: with the Chiefs. That's so cool. It was great. It's

548
00:24:14,096 --> 00:24:17,015
Speaker 4: there's something to be said about when you see a

549
00:24:17,136 --> 00:24:19,656
Speaker 4: check for the first time and think that it can

550
00:24:20,455 --> 00:24:22,856
Speaker 4: make make an impact on your life in such a

551
00:24:22,856 --> 00:24:23,975
Speaker 4: different way.

552
00:24:24,696 --> 00:24:26,816
Speaker 1: You get paid every game every two weeks.

553
00:24:27,296 --> 00:24:30,815
Speaker 4: Organizations do it differently normally. Some some teams will do

554
00:24:30,816 --> 00:24:33,095
Speaker 4: it every week, some teams will do it every two weeks.

555
00:24:33,616 --> 00:24:36,696
Speaker 4: And then there are organizations that you have the ability

556
00:24:36,696 --> 00:24:39,176
Speaker 4: to pay yourself out throughout the entirety of the year.

557
00:24:39,776 --> 00:24:41,416
Speaker 1: So instead of getting it every.

558
00:24:42,096 --> 00:24:45,096
Speaker 4: Sun's lump sums just during the season, you can do

559
00:24:45,096 --> 00:24:46,176
Speaker 4: it throughout the course of the year.

560
00:24:46,536 --> 00:24:48,096
Speaker 1: Could you just get like a regular check even in

561
00:24:48,136 --> 00:24:48,896
Speaker 1: the off season.

562
00:24:48,656 --> 00:24:49,936
Speaker 5: Though, yeap, that's what I'm saying.

563
00:24:50,455 --> 00:24:52,896
Speaker 4: So you're safer to do that probably be safer for

564
00:24:52,975 --> 00:24:55,096
Speaker 4: some guys. Yeah. I've definitely seen the guys that go

565
00:24:55,136 --> 00:24:58,136
Speaker 4: out and get their first contracts as a fourth rounder

566
00:24:58,136 --> 00:24:59,975
Speaker 4: and buy a Maserati or something like that.

567
00:24:59,936 --> 00:25:02,936
Speaker 5: And I'm going, what the hell did you do that for?

568
00:25:03,136 --> 00:25:03,215
Speaker 7: What?

569
00:25:03,256 --> 00:25:05,255
Speaker 4: Did you buy a couch?

570
00:25:05,936 --> 00:25:06,416
Speaker 1: Nice?

571
00:25:06,936 --> 00:25:10,455
Speaker 4: I went out and bought myself a restoration hardware leather couch.

572
00:25:10,495 --> 00:25:11,096
Speaker 1: That's nice though.

573
00:25:11,215 --> 00:25:13,576
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was pretty pleasing, but still have it today.

574
00:25:14,256 --> 00:25:16,856
Speaker 4: One of Uh. Yeah, I'm a very simple guy.

575
00:25:17,016 --> 00:25:18,496
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not a flashy yet.

576
00:25:18,536 --> 00:25:20,936
Speaker 4: Dude. I'm not gonna go out and you know, buy

577
00:25:21,056 --> 00:25:23,056
Speaker 4: a car or jewelry or anything like that. Just give

578
00:25:23,096 --> 00:25:25,736
Speaker 4: me a nice couch I can sit on and hang out.

579
00:25:25,776 --> 00:25:26,816
Speaker 1: Do you have any jewelry at all?

580
00:25:28,016 --> 00:25:30,456
Speaker 4: My wedding ring and an Apple watch that keeps my steps,

581
00:25:30,455 --> 00:25:31,256
Speaker 4: but that's about it.

582
00:25:32,215 --> 00:25:33,136
Speaker 5: Yeah, you have any jelry.

583
00:25:33,176 --> 00:25:34,775
Speaker 4: I can see you as like a blin guy, like

584
00:25:34,816 --> 00:25:36,815
Speaker 4: a little something around the neck I have.

585
00:25:37,856 --> 00:25:38,735
Speaker 5: Are you a watch guy?

586
00:25:39,376 --> 00:25:41,296
Speaker 1: Like in the last two to three years, I became

587
00:25:41,336 --> 00:25:41,976
Speaker 1: a watch guy.

588
00:25:42,536 --> 00:25:44,696
Speaker 5: Are you one that goes out and seeks out rare?

589
00:25:45,256 --> 00:25:50,856
Speaker 1: Not anymore and not rare but nice. I probably have

590
00:25:51,776 --> 00:25:54,576
Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen really nice watches.

591
00:25:55,176 --> 00:25:57,096
Speaker 5: So that was your cutoff when you slowed down?

592
00:25:57,816 --> 00:25:59,656
Speaker 4: Twelve to fifteen just in case you need to tell

593
00:25:59,696 --> 00:26:01,416
Speaker 4: time on your ankle or something like that.

594
00:26:01,495 --> 00:26:04,215
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good point. I feel like I slowed

595
00:26:04,256 --> 00:26:06,975
Speaker 1: down because I couldn't any that were so different than

596
00:26:07,016 --> 00:26:10,095
Speaker 1: the ones that I had. Yeah, and I just became

597
00:26:10,256 --> 00:26:14,255
Speaker 1: bored with trying to find super nuance. Got it because

598
00:26:14,296 --> 00:26:16,096
Speaker 1: like this one here, this is a red Rolex. I

599
00:26:16,136 --> 00:26:19,575
Speaker 1: love red, yes, of course, and speak to you. I

600
00:26:19,696 --> 00:26:22,216
Speaker 1: was looking for a red faced Rolex. I finally found

601
00:26:22,296 --> 00:26:24,096
Speaker 1: this one. Boom got it off list. I've got a

602
00:26:24,096 --> 00:26:26,656
Speaker 1: few that I'm super happy with and proud of them.

603
00:26:26,656 --> 00:26:28,936
Speaker 1: It's on my breakout for like super special occasions. So

604
00:26:29,016 --> 00:26:30,495
Speaker 1: I became a watch guy. I guess I am a

605
00:26:30,536 --> 00:26:32,216
Speaker 1: watch guy. I know the difference in the watches now.

606
00:26:32,896 --> 00:26:35,975
Speaker 1: I don't only wear jewelry. The rings I have on

607
00:26:36,056 --> 00:26:38,775
Speaker 1: now are This is an Ora ring, right and then

608
00:26:38,816 --> 00:26:41,616
Speaker 1: this is my wedding ring and it's silicon. It's rubber.

609
00:26:41,856 --> 00:26:44,056
Speaker 5: You asked your wife for a silicon right now?

610
00:26:44,176 --> 00:26:45,455
Speaker 1: But here's the real story.

611
00:26:45,536 --> 00:26:47,456
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's see when you lost your ring.

612
00:26:47,656 --> 00:26:51,495
Speaker 1: I didn't lose it, but I don't lose stuff. So

613
00:26:51,696 --> 00:26:53,136
Speaker 1: you think I'm a goat to lose this stuff.

614
00:26:53,656 --> 00:26:57,856
Speaker 4: I mean there's potential if you rubber ring. I'm just

615
00:26:57,896 --> 00:26:59,775
Speaker 4: I'm veryt you still have.

616
00:26:59,896 --> 00:27:02,495
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, here's the ring that I have, So I

617
00:27:02,576 --> 00:27:07,455
Speaker 1: go and I pick up my wat's engagement ring. She

618
00:27:07,455 --> 00:27:09,255
Speaker 1: didn't have anything to do with picking it out. I

619
00:27:09,296 --> 00:27:09,896
Speaker 1: picked it out.

620
00:27:10,096 --> 00:27:11,696
Speaker 5: I can see that by you because you're a gift giver.

621
00:27:12,016 --> 00:27:14,816
Speaker 1: I am and crushed with it is an amazing ring.

622
00:27:15,016 --> 00:27:18,095
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there is such an inequality when it

623
00:27:18,136 --> 00:27:20,096
Speaker 4: comes to ring buying for weddings.

624
00:27:20,376 --> 00:27:23,856
Speaker 1: So I bought me a ring, a guy ring that's

625
00:27:23,896 --> 00:27:26,495
Speaker 1: made of I don't know whatever it's made of.

626
00:27:26,536 --> 00:27:26,936
Speaker 4: What is it? What?

627
00:27:27,616 --> 00:27:28,656
Speaker 5: Gold and diamonds.

628
00:27:28,696 --> 00:27:31,295
Speaker 1: It's not gold, but it's it's a it's a silver

629
00:27:31,576 --> 00:27:33,376
Speaker 1: and I put diamonds all on the inside of it.

630
00:27:33,656 --> 00:27:35,736
Speaker 1: You and then I just don't like wearing.

631
00:27:35,416 --> 00:27:35,936
Speaker 5: It to honey.

632
00:27:35,936 --> 00:27:39,296
Speaker 4: You buy yourself your own wedding ring. Yeah, that's really

633
00:27:39,296 --> 00:27:41,456
Speaker 4: forcing the hand of her. Don't worry about I've got

634
00:27:41,455 --> 00:27:42,215
Speaker 4: everything they can care.

635
00:27:42,536 --> 00:27:45,416
Speaker 1: That went with she went with me for because we

636
00:27:45,416 --> 00:27:47,896
Speaker 1: already'd already given her hers. But there's a difference. I

637
00:27:47,896 --> 00:27:49,216
Speaker 1: gave her her engagement ring.

638
00:27:49,296 --> 00:27:51,096
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you got to get the wedding Well, then.

639
00:27:51,056 --> 00:27:52,495
Speaker 1: We went to get the wedding band. We did that

640
00:27:52,536 --> 00:27:55,696
Speaker 1: together and it was smaller, but then we were buying mine,

641
00:27:55,816 --> 00:27:57,295
Speaker 1: and it was like, you can buy this one for

642
00:27:57,416 --> 00:27:59,776
Speaker 1: like one hundred and ten dollars all that I spent,

643
00:28:00,056 --> 00:28:02,096
Speaker 1: like I want to, but I don't ever wear it

644
00:28:02,176 --> 00:28:04,416
Speaker 1: because I don't like ring I don't like hard rings

645
00:28:04,416 --> 00:28:06,896
Speaker 1: on my hand. Yeah I'm throwing up the bench press.

646
00:28:06,975 --> 00:28:09,296
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I did. I've never taken this. I did,

647
00:28:09,416 --> 00:28:10,215
Speaker 4: and I'm left handed.

648
00:28:10,256 --> 00:28:11,136
Speaker 1: I don't like wearing rings.

649
00:28:11,336 --> 00:28:11,976
Speaker 4: I wear my rings.

650
00:28:12,495 --> 00:28:13,055
Speaker 1: That sucks.

651
00:28:13,176 --> 00:28:15,575
Speaker 4: Yeah, I almost lost it one day I was coming up.

652
00:28:15,616 --> 00:28:17,656
Speaker 4: I would just leave it on for practice and forget

653
00:28:17,696 --> 00:28:20,656
Speaker 4: about it. And then one day I was coming off

654
00:28:20,975 --> 00:28:24,455
Speaker 4: and I could not find my ring, and it was

655
00:28:24,495 --> 00:28:27,896
Speaker 4: somewhere on the practice field. Luckily, a rookie was out there,

656
00:28:28,096 --> 00:28:30,055
Speaker 4: and I asked him if they would go look. He

657
00:28:30,096 --> 00:28:33,896
Speaker 4: went and looked, he found the ring. I was like, yes, yes,

658
00:28:33,975 --> 00:28:36,176
Speaker 4: but that was the only time I got close.

659
00:28:36,256 --> 00:28:37,776
Speaker 5: So I've had this thing for nineteen years.

660
00:28:38,016 --> 00:28:38,296
Speaker 1: Wow.

661
00:28:38,456 --> 00:28:40,176
Speaker 5: Yeah, how about that? Never lost it?

662
00:28:40,456 --> 00:28:43,456
Speaker 1: Also crazy that you've been married nineteen years? Pretty crazy, right?

663
00:28:43,576 --> 00:28:44,736
Speaker 5: Yeah, good for you, thank you.

664
00:28:44,896 --> 00:28:47,016
Speaker 1: Yeah, my ring, that was pretty balder. I'll wear it

665
00:28:47,016 --> 00:28:48,216
Speaker 1: one day. You'll like it. It's got a bunch of

666
00:28:48,216 --> 00:28:49,576
Speaker 1: diamonds in the inside.

667
00:28:50,216 --> 00:28:52,056
Speaker 5: Why on the inside wouldn't well.

668
00:28:52,096 --> 00:28:55,096
Speaker 1: Be comfortable to be both well and no, no, no, not underneath.

669
00:28:55,776 --> 00:28:59,016
Speaker 1: So okay, it's starting and it's on the inside.

670
00:28:59,576 --> 00:29:00,936
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love the ring.

671
00:29:01,416 --> 00:29:02,216
Speaker 5: Yeah I don't like it.

672
00:29:02,256 --> 00:29:03,936
Speaker 1: No, a lotably yeah yeah lovely.

673
00:29:04,016 --> 00:29:04,656
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't like what.

674
00:29:04,776 --> 00:29:05,736
Speaker 1: I just don't like where jewelry.

675
00:29:05,816 --> 00:29:08,136
Speaker 4: But the thing about watches too, they hold their value,

676
00:29:08,456 --> 00:29:10,696
Speaker 4: yeah for the most part. Like it's not like a

677
00:29:10,736 --> 00:29:12,416
Speaker 4: car that you drive off the lot and you lose

678
00:29:12,456 --> 00:29:15,776
Speaker 4: twenty twenty percent on it immediately, it depreciates. It's one

679
00:29:15,776 --> 00:29:17,736
Speaker 4: of those things that the trade in value is usually

680
00:29:17,736 --> 00:29:20,216
Speaker 4: pretty substantial or close to what you paid for it.

681
00:29:20,256 --> 00:29:24,336
Speaker 4: If it's one of the watches that you obviously own fifteen.

682
00:29:23,896 --> 00:29:25,216
Speaker 1: Of them, you never became a watch guy.

683
00:29:26,616 --> 00:29:29,176
Speaker 4: No, If I just need to tell time, just give

684
00:29:29,216 --> 00:29:30,456
Speaker 4: me something that can tell time.

685
00:29:31,056 --> 00:29:32,456
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have my phone for that. So if it's

686
00:29:32,496 --> 00:29:34,815
Speaker 1: about telling time, yeah, I look at my cell phone.

687
00:29:34,896 --> 00:29:37,256
Speaker 4: Yeah that's true. I mean one of the gifts that

688
00:29:37,376 --> 00:29:41,216
Speaker 4: Brady gave me was a Nevado watch, and it's probably

689
00:29:41,216 --> 00:29:44,216
Speaker 4: the nicest watch I have I maybe have. I do

690
00:29:44,296 --> 00:29:46,536
Speaker 4: have two watches. I've got the Mavado watch and I've

691
00:29:46,576 --> 00:29:50,176
Speaker 4: got this watch. And I can appreciate a nice peet

692
00:29:50,456 --> 00:29:52,456
Speaker 4: like a nice piece like that, when you're dressed up

693
00:29:52,456 --> 00:29:54,136
Speaker 4: and you've got to go out, you're not wearing this

694
00:29:54,176 --> 00:29:54,776
Speaker 4: Apple watch.

695
00:29:55,016 --> 00:29:58,136
Speaker 5: It makes you adds a little something to the fit.

696
00:29:58,376 --> 00:29:59,496
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the one to tell you that,

697
00:29:59,496 --> 00:30:02,496
Speaker 1: but we call you o Apple because everybody laughs at you, because.

698
00:30:03,176 --> 00:30:04,616
Speaker 5: Yeah, well you should see my steps.

699
00:30:04,656 --> 00:30:07,016
Speaker 4: Dude, I crush that thing. And then how many times

700
00:30:07,056 --> 00:30:09,456
Speaker 4: a week does it tell me you completed five workouts

701
00:30:09,456 --> 00:30:09,816
Speaker 4: this week?

702
00:30:10,056 --> 00:30:12,976
Speaker 1: That's right, we don't call you all Apple. Don't worry.

703
00:30:13,456 --> 00:30:14,176
Speaker 5: You know, old Apple.

704
00:30:14,296 --> 00:30:16,376
Speaker 1: That my Apple Watch? Because I have an Apple Watch.

705
00:30:16,456 --> 00:30:19,096
Speaker 1: I rarely wear it because I always forget to charge it.

706
00:30:19,096 --> 00:30:21,256
Speaker 4: It's really uh there's this thing that goes in the

707
00:30:21,256 --> 00:30:24,576
Speaker 4: wall and you just kind of PLoP it on their

708
00:30:25,176 --> 00:30:27,496
Speaker 4: familiar Yeah. Oh, you like to sleep with it to

709
00:30:27,496 --> 00:30:28,616
Speaker 4: see your rhythms.

710
00:30:28,696 --> 00:30:30,616
Speaker 1: That's why I wear my ring, my or ring?

711
00:30:30,896 --> 00:30:32,736
Speaker 5: Oh is that what attracts sleep?

712
00:30:33,456 --> 00:30:35,096
Speaker 1: Mostly sleep? I use it for sleep every night.

713
00:30:35,576 --> 00:30:36,336
Speaker 5: Do you really.

714
00:30:37,856 --> 00:30:39,336
Speaker 4: Well? What do you find out about your sleep? Do

715
00:30:39,376 --> 00:30:41,096
Speaker 4: you sleep well? No?

716
00:30:41,176 --> 00:30:42,376
Speaker 1: I know I don't sleep. Oh, but it don't tell

717
00:30:42,416 --> 00:30:44,016
Speaker 1: me how long I slept, when my heart rate was.

718
00:30:44,336 --> 00:30:47,976
Speaker 1: It gives you like a readiness score, how good your

719
00:30:47,976 --> 00:30:50,496
Speaker 1: body feels that day. Sometimes it'll go you have stressors,

720
00:30:51,016 --> 00:30:53,056
Speaker 1: and so it's indicated these stressors, and usually that means

721
00:30:53,096 --> 00:30:54,456
Speaker 1: I'm about to get sick, and that's crazy.

722
00:30:54,496 --> 00:30:54,896
Speaker 4: When it does that.

723
00:30:54,976 --> 00:30:56,616
Speaker 1: It doesn't play with your mind though, Yes, But I

724
00:30:56,616 --> 00:30:58,216
Speaker 1: would say the other way it works to where if

725
00:30:58,216 --> 00:30:59,736
Speaker 1: I feel like I got garbage sleep and I look

726
00:30:59,816 --> 00:31:01,416
Speaker 1: down and it says I got six and a half

727
00:31:01,496 --> 00:31:03,136
Speaker 1: or seven hours, which is rare for me, I'm like, dang,

728
00:31:03,136 --> 00:31:05,176
Speaker 1: I should feel good. And I talked myself into feeling

729
00:31:05,176 --> 00:31:06,616
Speaker 1: good for the same reason.

730
00:31:06,696 --> 00:31:09,216
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's it's a little bit of back and forth.

731
00:31:09,296 --> 00:31:10,216
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I believe it.

732
00:31:10,696 --> 00:31:12,016
Speaker 4: Do you believe it? Yeah?

733
00:31:12,056 --> 00:31:14,136
Speaker 1: Because I can work out and it'll tell me how

734
00:31:14,136 --> 00:31:16,855
Speaker 1: long I worked out, well my heart rate was. That's

735
00:31:16,896 --> 00:31:18,976
Speaker 1: what a watch that. Yeah, but I wear it as

736
00:31:18,976 --> 00:31:20,536
Speaker 1: a ring and you don't have to charge it.

737
00:31:21,136 --> 00:31:21,376
Speaker 4: Yeah.

738
00:31:21,456 --> 00:31:23,136
Speaker 1: I have to charge it like once every six days.

739
00:31:23,416 --> 00:31:25,376
Speaker 1: It's not a commercial. By the way, I don't have

740
00:31:25,416 --> 00:31:29,696
Speaker 1: any deal before we get to Cam Jordan and our guests,

741
00:31:29,856 --> 00:31:31,256
Speaker 1: I just wanted to save this for the last part

742
00:31:31,256 --> 00:31:34,736
Speaker 1: of this segment. Perfect what's it like to lose the

743
00:31:34,816 --> 00:31:35,296
Speaker 1: Super Bowl?

744
00:31:36,336 --> 00:31:40,336
Speaker 4: I know I'm because you did. And yeah, I mean,

745
00:31:40,336 --> 00:31:41,656
Speaker 4: I'm telling you it's I know.

746
00:31:41,656 --> 00:31:43,296
Speaker 1: What it's like like in the locker room. You gotta

747
00:31:43,296 --> 00:31:44,176
Speaker 1: fly all that.

748
00:31:44,536 --> 00:31:47,256
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an emotional scene in the locker room after

749
00:31:47,376 --> 00:31:49,456
Speaker 4: because you put everything into the season, you know you

750
00:31:49,536 --> 00:31:53,096
Speaker 4: might not get another opportunity to go to the super Bowl,

751
00:31:53,256 --> 00:31:54,936
Speaker 4: just like the one that I went to in two

752
00:31:54,936 --> 00:31:56,656
Speaker 4: thousand and seven. We didn't go back to the super

753
00:31:56,696 --> 00:31:59,056
Speaker 4: Bowl the rest of my career and I played fourteen years.

754
00:31:59,056 --> 00:32:01,056
Speaker 4: But I think that's the feeling for a lot of

755
00:32:01,056 --> 00:32:03,656
Speaker 4: guys in the locker room when they know that they

756
00:32:04,216 --> 00:32:07,376
Speaker 4: are at the cusp of great and have that moment

757
00:32:07,496 --> 00:32:11,416
Speaker 4: that they've worked their entire life for and it slips

758
00:32:11,416 --> 00:32:13,416
Speaker 4: through where they don't have a good performance. And so

759
00:32:13,456 --> 00:32:16,776
Speaker 4: there's some guys that are obviously visibly emotional. There's other

760
00:32:16,776 --> 00:32:19,136
Speaker 4: guys sitting there in their locker room, I mean, in

761
00:32:19,176 --> 00:32:21,576
Speaker 4: their locker trying to kind of take take it all

762
00:32:21,616 --> 00:32:24,256
Speaker 4: in a lot of guys giving hugs and going around,

763
00:32:24,336 --> 00:32:26,296
Speaker 4: and there's those leaders that are saying to keep your

764
00:32:26,296 --> 00:32:30,096
Speaker 4: head up and go that route. So it's, uh, it's

765
00:32:30,176 --> 00:32:32,736
Speaker 4: it's difficult because it sticks with you and then you're

766
00:32:32,776 --> 00:32:35,335
Speaker 4: always playing that over and over and it's not for

767
00:32:35,376 --> 00:32:39,096
Speaker 4: a few months after the fact that you finally can

768
00:32:39,176 --> 00:32:41,776
Speaker 4: move forward and start getting yourself prepared for the next even.

769
00:32:41,736 --> 00:32:45,056
Speaker 1: But you were a year four, right three, so you

770
00:32:45,176 --> 00:32:50,136
Speaker 1: probably I thought maybe, I mean, yeah, you're so young

771
00:32:50,176 --> 00:32:52,576
Speaker 1: in your career that maybe you think with all the years,

772
00:32:52,856 --> 00:32:54,776
Speaker 1: there's a possibility where I would assume if you're a

773
00:32:54,856 --> 00:32:57,376
Speaker 1: veteran and you've played in the league ten years or so,

774
00:32:57,416 --> 00:32:59,536
Speaker 1: when that happens, it's probably a lot harder.

775
00:32:59,336 --> 00:33:01,816
Speaker 4: Right And I think I think a guy like Junior Sayhowe,

776
00:33:02,096 --> 00:33:05,056
Speaker 4: who came in that year and was a leader on

777
00:33:05,096 --> 00:33:07,176
Speaker 4: a team, a vocal leader, would break us down before

778
00:33:07,216 --> 00:33:09,696
Speaker 4: we'd go out. It hit him hard for sure. I

779
00:33:09,736 --> 00:33:12,056
Speaker 4: mean because it was his last opportunity. A guy like

780
00:33:12,136 --> 00:33:15,376
Speaker 4: Randy Moss who's there, who's had a phenomenal career and

781
00:33:15,456 --> 00:33:19,216
Speaker 4: had an outstanding season that year, that hit him hard.

782
00:33:19,296 --> 00:33:23,096
Speaker 4: Brady same thing, because Brady his expectation is greatness. And

783
00:33:23,656 --> 00:33:25,976
Speaker 4: I don't think it was until I left New England

784
00:33:25,976 --> 00:33:28,896
Speaker 4: that I realized not just how hard it is to

785
00:33:28,896 --> 00:33:30,536
Speaker 4: get to the super Bowl, how hard it is to

786
00:33:30,616 --> 00:33:34,576
Speaker 4: win consistently in the playoffs because there's so many changes

787
00:33:34,616 --> 00:33:37,416
Speaker 4: that take place every year for every organization, whether it's

788
00:33:37,456 --> 00:33:41,816
Speaker 4: free agents leaving, coaches leaving. When you're successful, normally your

789
00:33:41,816 --> 00:33:45,176
Speaker 4: team's going to change dramatically in many ways going into

790
00:33:45,216 --> 00:33:47,856
Speaker 4: the next season, so that one season or that one

791
00:33:47,896 --> 00:33:50,216
Speaker 4: team will never be the same. And so there's a

792
00:33:50,256 --> 00:33:52,936
Speaker 4: lot of pride that goes into what went into that season,

793
00:33:53,096 --> 00:33:55,616
Speaker 4: the guys that you worked with, the brotherhood, and then

794
00:33:56,016 --> 00:33:59,096
Speaker 4: to reach it and actually not being able to achieve it,

795
00:33:59,096 --> 00:34:00,216
Speaker 4: it can be very difficult.

796
00:34:00,336 --> 00:34:02,815
Speaker 1: Was there a point in that game where you're going, Okay,

797
00:34:03,176 --> 00:34:04,336
Speaker 1: now we're not going to win.

798
00:34:06,336 --> 00:34:08,456
Speaker 4: You know. I always thought that we were on the

799
00:34:08,496 --> 00:34:11,616
Speaker 4: cusp there, and then it was when Plexico Burris ran

800
00:34:11,696 --> 00:34:14,096
Speaker 4: that slugo and went in and I don't know how

801
00:34:14,136 --> 00:34:16,176
Speaker 4: much time was on the clock, but it wasn't much,

802
00:34:16,256 --> 00:34:18,096
Speaker 4: and I don't think we had any timeouts and we

803
00:34:18,136 --> 00:34:19,256
Speaker 4: had to go eighty and.

804
00:34:19,336 --> 00:34:21,536
Speaker 1: I was like, this might not win.

805
00:34:21,536 --> 00:34:22,336
Speaker 4: We might not win.

806
00:34:22,416 --> 00:34:23,256
Speaker 5: And I still thought.

807
00:34:23,936 --> 00:34:26,616
Speaker 4: I thought some kind of crazy play where Brady's gonna

808
00:34:26,616 --> 00:34:28,736
Speaker 4: throw it up the moss seventy yards downfield, He's gonna

809
00:34:28,736 --> 00:34:31,096
Speaker 4: make a miraculous catch. We're gonna get back and win

810
00:34:31,136 --> 00:34:35,616
Speaker 4: the game. But that was the point when I was like, oh,

811
00:34:35,656 --> 00:34:38,016
Speaker 4: I'm a little a little worried here.

812
00:34:37,976 --> 00:34:40,736
Speaker 1: Because I feel like that's what happened to New England

813
00:34:40,736 --> 00:34:43,936
Speaker 1: this year on that interception, or maybe even the three

814
00:34:43,976 --> 00:34:46,776
Speaker 1: and out outside of half. But even after the half,

815
00:34:47,256 --> 00:34:49,176
Speaker 1: the three and out happens, there's still a lot of

816
00:34:49,216 --> 00:34:52,016
Speaker 1: game left and you're only down what nine, right?

817
00:34:52,056 --> 00:34:54,096
Speaker 4: I think the big changing point for them was when

818
00:34:54,576 --> 00:34:56,376
Speaker 4: they got the three and out. They had him, they

819
00:34:56,416 --> 00:34:58,336
Speaker 4: had Seattle backed up, they got a three and out,

820
00:34:58,376 --> 00:35:01,216
Speaker 4: Milton Wins had the sack, they have the punt, Jonathan

821
00:35:01,296 --> 00:35:03,776
Speaker 4: Jones has a great return, blocking the back, brings them

822
00:35:03,816 --> 00:35:06,056
Speaker 4: back and then they turn over the ball. I mean

823
00:35:06,096 --> 00:35:08,576
Speaker 4: that was a moment still down. I think at that

824
00:35:08,656 --> 00:35:11,576
Speaker 4: point nine nothing to where you go make a move

825
00:35:11,736 --> 00:35:14,416
Speaker 4: and start go in and even get three points and

826
00:35:14,416 --> 00:35:16,976
Speaker 4: get a little momentum. They just never captured momentum that

827
00:35:17,136 --> 00:35:20,696
Speaker 4: entire game, and that was a huge turning point. I

828
00:35:20,736 --> 00:35:22,256
Speaker 4: believe we're.

829
00:35:22,056 --> 00:35:25,416
Speaker 1: Gonna go now and talk to Cam Jordan, New Orleans

830
00:35:25,456 --> 00:35:28,096
Speaker 1: Saints all time sack leader, future Hall of Famer. Cam

831
00:35:28,176 --> 00:35:30,576
Speaker 1: is an eight time pro bowler. He had ten point

832
00:35:30,576 --> 00:35:33,616
Speaker 1: five sacks or ten and a half ten point five.

833
00:35:34,296 --> 00:35:36,776
Speaker 1: He's say ten point five and a half and half. Yeah,

834
00:35:36,816 --> 00:35:38,496
Speaker 1: he had ten and a half sacks this past year.

835
00:35:38,856 --> 00:35:41,216
Speaker 1: Has his own podcast called Off the Edge of Cam Jordan,

836
00:35:41,296 --> 00:35:42,696
Speaker 1: So check that out. Did you ever play with the game?

837
00:35:43,016 --> 00:35:45,216
Speaker 5: I did not. He's been a saint in his entire career.

838
00:35:45,296 --> 00:35:46,976
Speaker 1: Do you ever play against Cam?

839
00:35:46,976 --> 00:35:50,016
Speaker 4: Sure? Did, and he is a beast? Really, Oh man?

840
00:35:50,056 --> 00:35:50,736
Speaker 1: Do you hear him?

841
00:35:51,176 --> 00:35:54,376
Speaker 4: You hear he's He constantly's chattering. You'll hear it on

842
00:35:54,416 --> 00:35:57,256
Speaker 4: the interview. I mean, obviously he knows how to talk,

843
00:35:57,336 --> 00:35:58,856
Speaker 4: and he knows he's got.

844
00:35:58,696 --> 00:35:59,496
Speaker 5: Swaggered to him.

845
00:35:59,536 --> 00:36:01,456
Speaker 4: And he's one of the better ones that you play

846
00:36:01,456 --> 00:36:03,056
Speaker 4: against because you're constantly gonna hear him.

847
00:36:03,096 --> 00:36:06,936
Speaker 1: Here he is Cam Jordan, Cam Jordan, got to see

848
00:36:06,936 --> 00:36:07,216
Speaker 1: you man.

849
00:36:07,256 --> 00:36:08,896
Speaker 8: Hey, pleasure, pleasure for having me on.

850
00:36:09,136 --> 00:36:11,936
Speaker 1: Do you feel like, since you're doing the podcast and

851
00:36:11,976 --> 00:36:14,335
Speaker 1: you're also playing, do you feel like there are things

852
00:36:14,336 --> 00:36:16,736
Speaker 1: you can't say because while you're playing.

853
00:36:16,696 --> 00:36:23,136
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, there's been many controversial topics that I've approached.

854
00:36:23,536 --> 00:36:25,576
Speaker 8: No, I say what I want when I want.

855
00:36:25,616 --> 00:36:27,696
Speaker 9: If you don't feel some type of way about it,

856
00:36:27,856 --> 00:36:30,456
Speaker 9: Luckily I'm still currently playing. So if Officer the lineman

857
00:36:30,496 --> 00:36:32,496
Speaker 9: feels like he's not fat, show me or if he's

858
00:36:32,616 --> 00:36:35,056
Speaker 9: not athletic or whatever that is. Showed me like I

859
00:36:35,056 --> 00:36:38,296
Speaker 9: saw Garrett Bowles and the Pro Bowl out there, Arthur snagging,

860
00:36:38,456 --> 00:36:41,256
Speaker 9: snagging a couple of tuddies. I said, Okay, we're in

861
00:36:41,296 --> 00:36:43,896
Speaker 9: the cusp. Like he was against the separation, but we're

862
00:36:43,896 --> 00:36:46,256
Speaker 9: on the cusp. I see what you did there. You know,

863
00:36:46,536 --> 00:36:48,496
Speaker 9: I love the idea that I can talk trash about

864
00:36:48,576 --> 00:36:51,416
Speaker 9: maybe a quarterback or whatever that is in a polite

865
00:36:51,456 --> 00:36:55,056
Speaker 9: way that isn't degrading towards you know, the entire quarterback system,

866
00:36:55,256 --> 00:36:57,696
Speaker 9: but make a statement of how I'm gonna tack him

867
00:36:57,736 --> 00:37:00,336
Speaker 9: and do so accordingly. Or if we lose, let's talk

868
00:37:00,336 --> 00:37:03,296
Speaker 9: about it hurts. Nobody goes into a game trying to lose.

869
00:37:03,496 --> 00:37:05,496
Speaker 9: I think I'm gonna win every game by fifty and

870
00:37:05,536 --> 00:37:06,256
Speaker 9: I'm proven wrong.

871
00:37:06,336 --> 00:37:09,376
Speaker 4: Sometimes talk talk about your longevity in the league. You've

872
00:37:09,416 --> 00:37:12,176
Speaker 4: been doing it for a long time. If you're the

873
00:37:12,296 --> 00:37:16,216
Speaker 4: sack leader, like for the Saints, which is incredible in itself.

874
00:37:15,936 --> 00:37:18,896
Speaker 9: Talking about season career because it's both the career season.

875
00:37:21,456 --> 00:37:25,576
Speaker 4: He let me tell you all the I know a guy, Yeah,

876
00:37:25,616 --> 00:37:28,216
Speaker 4: what what do you uh? What would you say is

877
00:37:28,216 --> 00:37:31,096
Speaker 4: the key to your longevity? Oh? Man.

878
00:37:32,576 --> 00:37:34,856
Speaker 9: Honestly, you could say the way that I attack off

879
00:37:34,856 --> 00:37:37,696
Speaker 9: season workouts or the way that I treat my body

880
00:37:37,736 --> 00:37:40,216
Speaker 9: with prehab, but there's so many guys that do that.

881
00:37:40,656 --> 00:37:43,056
Speaker 9: There's no one individual thing like I've been able to

882
00:37:43,096 --> 00:37:45,815
Speaker 9: play all the games of my career except these two

883
00:37:46,096 --> 00:37:48,016
Speaker 9: one because of COVID one because the coaches said that

884
00:37:48,056 --> 00:37:49,696
Speaker 9: I was not wasn't allowed to play with the broken bone,

885
00:37:49,736 --> 00:37:50,256
Speaker 9: when I've played with.

886
00:37:50,296 --> 00:37:51,496
Speaker 8: Plenty of broken belts before.

887
00:37:52,776 --> 00:37:56,256
Speaker 9: It's I mean, between God's blessings, my mother's prayers and luck,

888
00:37:56,576 --> 00:37:58,016
Speaker 9: what else can you say? Because you could be as

889
00:37:58,056 --> 00:37:59,096
Speaker 9: healthy as you want to be, you could be as

890
00:37:59,096 --> 00:38:00,336
Speaker 9: strong as you want to be. You can put as

891
00:38:00,416 --> 00:38:04,376
Speaker 9: much IMSIs on training, the the the ligaments around your

892
00:38:04,536 --> 00:38:07,736
Speaker 9: core muscles. Guess what something's gonna tear? Are you willing

893
00:38:07,936 --> 00:38:08,976
Speaker 9: Are are you willing enough to.

894
00:38:08,896 --> 00:38:09,936
Speaker 8: Play through it? In NFL?

895
00:38:09,976 --> 00:38:12,656
Speaker 9: One hundred percent of injuries happen if you play long enough.

896
00:38:13,256 --> 00:38:16,256
Speaker 9: You know, I can remember breaking my first you know,

897
00:38:16,416 --> 00:38:20,456
Speaker 9: Meta metacarpoal my rookie year on a like a Tuesday Wednesday.

898
00:38:20,456 --> 00:38:22,536
Speaker 9: I was playing by Sunday. Then you say, hey, Cam,

899
00:38:22,536 --> 00:38:24,576
Speaker 9: do you want to play apps? So freaking lootely I do.

900
00:38:25,456 --> 00:38:27,856
Speaker 9: And you know, I've had the high ankle sprains on

901
00:38:27,856 --> 00:38:29,576
Speaker 9: one ankle and then having a low ankle sprain on

902
00:38:29,576 --> 00:38:31,296
Speaker 9: the other ankle. I'm out there looking like a pony,

903
00:38:31,336 --> 00:38:33,336
Speaker 9: and I watched Geno Smith run to it outside and

904
00:38:33,376 --> 00:38:34,576
Speaker 9: cut up and I can't pivot.

905
00:38:34,656 --> 00:38:36,336
Speaker 8: I'm like, dang, maybe I shouldn't have been out here.

906
00:38:36,456 --> 00:38:37,976
Speaker 9: But at the same time, I've bent the corner and

907
00:38:37,976 --> 00:38:40,056
Speaker 9: stopped the run and did everything else in it. It's

908
00:38:40,416 --> 00:38:43,976
Speaker 9: it's all about enabling yourself with the confidence, and then

909
00:38:44,056 --> 00:38:46,456
Speaker 9: it just builds over time, like oh, yeah, you gotta

910
00:38:46,696 --> 00:38:48,896
Speaker 9: you know, a lower a lower back problem. You gott

911
00:38:48,896 --> 00:38:50,576
Speaker 9: a L four L five that's gonna have a dissected

912
00:38:50,656 --> 00:38:52,016
Speaker 9: me surgery at the end of season.

913
00:38:52,336 --> 00:38:53,776
Speaker 8: All right, But can I play?

914
00:38:54,256 --> 00:38:55,696
Speaker 9: And if I can get out there and play to

915
00:38:55,936 --> 00:38:59,216
Speaker 9: what my standard is, I'm going It's all about the

916
00:38:59,216 --> 00:39:01,136
Speaker 9: one two at the end of the day. And half

917
00:39:01,176 --> 00:39:05,576
Speaker 9: of it, honestly, is that arrogant like confidence of where

918
00:39:05,576 --> 00:39:08,536
Speaker 9: we're mortals and were immortal in that moment, right like

919
00:39:08,616 --> 00:39:12,096
Speaker 9: we're immortalized and through the pain, like oh my god,

920
00:39:12,136 --> 00:39:14,256
Speaker 9: I can't believe he actually got out there and he

921
00:39:14,296 --> 00:39:16,896
Speaker 9: separated the shoulder last week and he's still playing. You

922
00:39:16,936 --> 00:39:20,136
Speaker 9: saw Fred Warner this year dislocate his ankle right and

923
00:39:20,176 --> 00:39:21,576
Speaker 9: we all saw the clips of him.

924
00:39:21,616 --> 00:39:24,576
Speaker 8: And by players out there freaking coming down hill.

925
00:39:24,616 --> 00:39:28,056
Speaker 9: I'm like, this, dude, is unreal. The legends of the game,

926
00:39:28,096 --> 00:39:30,136
Speaker 9: the legendary stories of what makes a game so great.

927
00:39:30,416 --> 00:39:32,816
Speaker 9: You see a guy we apply to basketball player that

928
00:39:33,336 --> 00:39:35,816
Speaker 9: you know that they'll play with the broken finger that

929
00:39:35,896 --> 00:39:38,816
Speaker 9: happens every other game, if not every other play for

930
00:39:38,856 --> 00:39:41,216
Speaker 9: some guys, like my finger pops this way and I

931
00:39:41,216 --> 00:39:43,536
Speaker 9: just pop back in. You grab, you know, you grab

932
00:39:43,696 --> 00:39:47,416
Speaker 9: a little a tongue lozenger, look and bite on it. Pause, whoa,

933
00:39:47,536 --> 00:39:50,656
Speaker 9: and then you readjusted and you go back in. You know,

934
00:39:51,256 --> 00:39:54,736
Speaker 9: you have times where you may have a broken risk

935
00:39:54,816 --> 00:39:56,456
Speaker 9: or even a slightly fractured race and you just put

936
00:39:56,536 --> 00:39:58,376
Speaker 9: race wrist tape on it. Come a few times I

937
00:39:58,416 --> 00:40:00,656
Speaker 9: have to wear a risk tape like I'm here to

938
00:40:01,576 --> 00:40:03,936
Speaker 9: They say the best ability is availability, and I bought

939
00:40:03,936 --> 00:40:05,216
Speaker 9: fully in on this in high school.

940
00:40:06,336 --> 00:40:09,536
Speaker 1: Which quarterback can you get to? But it's been the

941
00:40:09,536 --> 00:40:12,256
Speaker 1: hardest to take down once you get to him.

942
00:40:12,336 --> 00:40:14,856
Speaker 9: A guy like Lamar Jackson, for whatever reason, it's hard

943
00:40:14,856 --> 00:40:16,776
Speaker 9: for me because he's a ducker. Like I'm trying to

944
00:40:16,776 --> 00:40:20,776
Speaker 9: like in today's rules, you can't just pop them underneath

945
00:40:20,816 --> 00:40:23,376
Speaker 9: the chin anymore. You can't just like murder them outright.

946
00:40:23,536 --> 00:40:26,496
Speaker 9: You have to like calmly ask them, hey, okay, if

947
00:40:26,496 --> 00:40:28,336
Speaker 9: I touch you, I'm about to put hands on you,

948
00:40:28,456 --> 00:40:31,136
Speaker 9: and oh, by the way, land ever, so just softly

949
00:40:31,176 --> 00:40:33,496
Speaker 9: on the no, it's hard now, as fast as he is,

950
00:40:33,536 --> 00:40:34,536
Speaker 9: as quick as he is.

951
00:40:34,856 --> 00:40:37,456
Speaker 8: I remember I hit him multiple times one game and

952
00:40:37,496 --> 00:40:40,456
Speaker 8: I duck. He ducked over. He splanned out. I was like,

953
00:40:40,456 --> 00:40:41,456
Speaker 8: what the hell is it me?

954
00:40:41,856 --> 00:40:43,456
Speaker 9: I said, maybe I don't have anyone in the next game.

955
00:40:43,496 --> 00:40:46,296
Speaker 9: I have like two sacks against their car whoever's next.

956
00:40:46,456 --> 00:40:48,576
Speaker 9: I was like, it's just him for some whatever reason.

957
00:40:48,936 --> 00:40:51,256
Speaker 9: I remember I hit I try to murder him too.

958
00:40:51,296 --> 00:40:53,296
Speaker 9: I said, screw it, I'm going for it. I try

959
00:40:53,336 --> 00:40:55,136
Speaker 9: to hit him, he ducks, I go over the top,

960
00:40:55,416 --> 00:40:57,136
Speaker 9: he rolls out. I get up and I slap his

961
00:40:57,216 --> 00:41:00,336
Speaker 9: ankles and he still like jumps off one foot throws

962
00:41:00,376 --> 00:41:03,576
Speaker 9: a dot to the side and I'm like, you know what,

963
00:41:04,296 --> 00:41:05,216
Speaker 9: he's MVP.

964
00:41:06,016 --> 00:41:08,456
Speaker 5: And he's different. I mean, that's true.

965
00:41:08,496 --> 00:41:10,656
Speaker 4: Are you a firm believer that the league sets up

966
00:41:10,776 --> 00:41:15,136
Speaker 4: rules that go against the defensive. Yeah, the.

967
00:41:16,776 --> 00:41:19,736
Speaker 8: Most for DB's for for dbs D.

968
00:41:20,056 --> 00:41:20,936
Speaker 4: How about the hit pack.

969
00:41:20,936 --> 00:41:24,736
Speaker 9: It's the targeting situation right defences players like a quarterback.

970
00:41:25,296 --> 00:41:27,736
Speaker 9: I saw Carl Grannison this year hit a quarterback. Of

971
00:41:27,816 --> 00:41:30,296
Speaker 9: course it was his blindside, because he plays primarily to

972
00:41:30,456 --> 00:41:31,416
Speaker 9: the guy's blind side.

973
00:41:31,536 --> 00:41:32,056
Speaker 4: He hit him.

974
00:41:32,096 --> 00:41:35,256
Speaker 8: It wasn't even vicious they call flag right. It's it's

975
00:41:35,296 --> 00:41:35,976
Speaker 8: the wide.

976
00:41:35,816 --> 00:41:37,696
Speaker 9: Receivers who run free, the tight ends who are not

977
00:41:37,696 --> 00:41:40,016
Speaker 9: scared anymore to go over the middle. You used to

978
00:41:40,016 --> 00:41:41,536
Speaker 9: have to fear the middle. It used to be like

979
00:41:41,696 --> 00:41:43,656
Speaker 9: the quarterback, you better not place me in a bad position.

980
00:41:43,696 --> 00:41:45,736
Speaker 9: He used to be a quarterbacks fell And now we're like,

981
00:41:45,856 --> 00:41:48,336
Speaker 9: I can't believe this safety came down from deep third

982
00:41:48,536 --> 00:41:51,016
Speaker 9: and made this incredible tackle on This is a wide

983
00:41:51,016 --> 00:41:53,576
Speaker 9: receiver who's going twenty two miles per across the middle,

984
00:41:53,816 --> 00:41:55,776
Speaker 9: and how dare he lay him out?

985
00:41:56,296 --> 00:41:57,176
Speaker 8: What I mean?

986
00:41:57,296 --> 00:41:59,536
Speaker 9: I love those hits. I was born off the Deon

987
00:41:59,616 --> 00:42:02,576
Speaker 9: Dawkins I was. I was raised in the Joey Browner era.

988
00:42:02,896 --> 00:42:05,976
Speaker 9: I saw guys fear that middle. You would have told

989
00:42:06,016 --> 00:42:08,736
Speaker 9: John Randall he couldn't blindside hit a quarterback. Are you

990
00:42:08,816 --> 00:42:11,416
Speaker 9: kidding me? Reggie White? They were like grabbing them in

991
00:42:11,496 --> 00:42:14,016
Speaker 9: headlocks as they go down, like go to sleep, little fellow.

992
00:42:14,456 --> 00:42:16,816
Speaker 9: Hey now I've got to like hit him with the pillow. Hey,

993
00:42:16,976 --> 00:42:17,376
Speaker 9: I'm coming.

994
00:42:17,896 --> 00:42:22,056
Speaker 1: Are you as vocal on this loves everybody? Are you

995
00:42:22,096 --> 00:42:23,136
Speaker 1: a vocal on the field?

996
00:42:23,496 --> 00:42:25,256
Speaker 8: Absolutely? I love.

997
00:42:25,336 --> 00:42:27,456
Speaker 9: I love being a vocal leader. I mean who I

998
00:42:27,536 --> 00:42:29,056
Speaker 9: am doesn't change twenty four to seven.

999
00:42:29,376 --> 00:42:29,616
Speaker 4: Now.

1000
00:42:29,856 --> 00:42:33,336
Speaker 9: The older I get, the more guys kill me with kindness.

1001
00:42:33,376 --> 00:42:35,016
Speaker 9: Now and it's completely taking.

1002
00:42:34,856 --> 00:42:35,496
Speaker 8: Me out of my game.

1003
00:42:35,936 --> 00:42:39,456
Speaker 9: I'm like, I'm about to drive in the dirt.

1004
00:42:39,496 --> 00:42:41,136
Speaker 8: Hey man, you know it was a really good play. Bro.

1005
00:42:41,296 --> 00:42:44,536
Speaker 9: Like, hey man, respect like, don't don't pregame, Like, hey bro,

1006
00:42:44,576 --> 00:42:45,616
Speaker 9: respect everything you've done.

1007
00:42:46,816 --> 00:42:49,896
Speaker 8: I respect you too. I want to what are we

1008
00:42:49,976 --> 00:42:51,296
Speaker 8: doing here? Exactly?

1009
00:42:51,416 --> 00:42:54,536
Speaker 4: Let's all right? How about offensive lineman? Young offensive lineman?

1010
00:42:54,536 --> 00:42:55,856
Speaker 4: You gone up in the league this year?

1011
00:42:56,136 --> 00:42:58,216
Speaker 5: Who you think that is? Gonna have some long jevities

1012
00:42:58,256 --> 00:42:58,416
Speaker 5: to me?

1013
00:42:58,536 --> 00:42:59,936
Speaker 4: Come on, you gotta go out.

1014
00:42:59,776 --> 00:43:03,776
Speaker 8: Of my way to disrespect you. Yeah, out of my

1015
00:43:03,816 --> 00:43:05,256
Speaker 8: way to make sure that we're not friend of this.

1016
00:43:05,456 --> 00:43:07,896
Speaker 4: Gotta be one one guy that you have no idea

1017
00:43:07,856 --> 00:43:10,736
Speaker 4: but nobody. Yeah, no, you don't respect them on.

1018
00:43:12,136 --> 00:43:15,416
Speaker 8: Taylor Moton, Christian Christian Worths.

1019
00:43:15,656 --> 00:43:19,096
Speaker 9: I'm just gonna say names that I know.

1020
00:43:19,376 --> 00:43:23,096
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, exactly. They're good people. I'm sure maybe dap

1021
00:43:23,176 --> 00:43:25,416
Speaker 8: me up after the game. I mean, I'm gonna.

1022
00:43:25,216 --> 00:43:27,216
Speaker 9: Respect them absolutely, But it's like I don't want to

1023
00:43:27,216 --> 00:43:28,656
Speaker 9: know their names because I don't want to know things

1024
00:43:28,656 --> 00:43:30,936
Speaker 9: about them. I treat them as like, oh yeah, number

1025
00:43:30,936 --> 00:43:32,816
Speaker 9: sixty seven for the week, and then I do automatically

1026
00:43:32,816 --> 00:43:34,816
Speaker 9: try to forget them because I don't want to be like,

1027
00:43:34,816 --> 00:43:35,856
Speaker 9: man after you build.

1028
00:43:35,576 --> 00:43:37,776
Speaker 8: A report with them, like I actually like this guy.

1029
00:43:38,096 --> 00:43:39,936
Speaker 9: Damn it, I can't like this guy because I'm trying

1030
00:43:39,976 --> 00:43:42,456
Speaker 9: to punch a hole in his chest, Like I don't

1031
00:43:42,496 --> 00:43:44,976
Speaker 9: have the ability to like, oh man, we're friends, and

1032
00:43:44,976 --> 00:43:45,736
Speaker 9: I don't want to hurt them.

1033
00:43:45,776 --> 00:43:47,856
Speaker 8: No, no, I have.

1034
00:43:47,896 --> 00:43:50,296
Speaker 9: To do my job. I'm going to do my job.

1035
00:43:50,336 --> 00:43:52,736
Speaker 9: If I know your name is probably not positive, I'm like, oh,

1036
00:43:52,736 --> 00:43:53,656
Speaker 9: I'm dog walking him.

1037
00:43:54,216 --> 00:43:56,376
Speaker 1: What's the goal? How many more years do you want

1038
00:43:56,376 --> 00:43:59,936
Speaker 1: before you transition into what feels like an automatic media career.

1039
00:43:59,976 --> 00:44:02,016
Speaker 1: It could be today, it ain't gonna be today.

1040
00:44:03,216 --> 00:44:04,656
Speaker 8: Hey, come on, come.

1041
00:44:04,496 --> 00:44:05,136
Speaker 4: On, tell us something.

1042
00:44:05,616 --> 00:44:07,776
Speaker 9: If a media, if a media offer came through and

1043
00:44:07,776 --> 00:44:09,776
Speaker 9: it was like, hey, Cam, we got Tom Brady numbers

1044
00:44:09,776 --> 00:44:10,256
Speaker 9: for you.

1045
00:44:10,336 --> 00:44:12,176
Speaker 8: Brother. I'm never looking back.

1046
00:44:13,176 --> 00:44:15,816
Speaker 9: Not that money is ever gonna change anything, but at

1047
00:44:15,856 --> 00:44:17,656
Speaker 9: this day and age, I look at it as a

1048
00:44:17,696 --> 00:44:18,456
Speaker 9: respect factor.

1049
00:44:19,016 --> 00:44:19,216
Speaker 3: Right.

1050
00:44:20,216 --> 00:44:22,416
Speaker 9: I've I've played for a team, I've given money back,

1051
00:44:22,696 --> 00:44:24,736
Speaker 9: I've you know, I've had money taken from me whatever

1052
00:44:24,776 --> 00:44:26,656
Speaker 9: whatever you want to say that that sentence, and I

1053
00:44:26,696 --> 00:44:28,696
Speaker 9: was like, yo, Like because of that, I know that

1054
00:44:28,816 --> 00:44:31,656
Speaker 9: they're gonna try and limit snaps because they put faith

1055
00:44:31,776 --> 00:44:34,576
Speaker 9: or they put whatever it is into a different position. Right,

1056
00:44:35,416 --> 00:44:37,776
Speaker 9: money is respect and I think I've seen that as

1057
00:44:37,856 --> 00:44:41,176
Speaker 9: after the first contract. I don't really care what the

1058
00:44:41,176 --> 00:44:43,416
Speaker 9: top dollar is or the lowest dollar is. Put it

1059
00:44:43,416 --> 00:44:46,936
Speaker 9: to where you have to respect my my my ability

1060
00:44:47,256 --> 00:44:49,256
Speaker 9: and actually want to put me in a better place too.

1061
00:44:49,576 --> 00:44:51,776
Speaker 9: I'd like I'd like a Blitz named after me. I

1062
00:44:51,776 --> 00:44:55,376
Speaker 9: love when they say, hey, Cam, this will get you free. Yeah,

1063
00:44:55,696 --> 00:44:57,496
Speaker 9: well We're gonna.

1064
00:44:57,216 --> 00:44:58,696
Speaker 8: Have five guys up at the front line and I'm

1065
00:44:58,696 --> 00:45:00,456
Speaker 8: going to get a one on one for sure. I

1066
00:45:00,536 --> 00:45:00,856
Speaker 8: love that.

1067
00:45:01,416 --> 00:45:03,416
Speaker 9: And if we talk about you know, oh oh, well,

1068
00:45:03,496 --> 00:45:06,536
Speaker 9: you start projecting whatever it is. I' At some point

1069
00:45:07,056 --> 00:45:08,616
Speaker 9: money is not going to make or break me. At

1070
00:45:08,616 --> 00:45:11,736
Speaker 9: this point in my career. I've been blessed enough to

1071
00:45:11,856 --> 00:45:13,736
Speaker 9: have stayed with the same team for fifteen years, and

1072
00:45:13,776 --> 00:45:16,416
Speaker 9: they've showed a tremendous amount of love and respect me

1073
00:45:16,456 --> 00:45:18,256
Speaker 9: over the years. And I've got nothing but tremendous amount

1074
00:45:18,256 --> 00:45:20,296
Speaker 9: of love and respect for New Orleans and I will have.

1075
00:45:20,256 --> 00:45:22,176
Speaker 8: For the rest of my life. So at this point,

1076
00:45:22,296 --> 00:45:23,216
Speaker 8: I just want to be valued.

1077
00:45:23,416 --> 00:45:26,096
Speaker 4: Yeah, talk to me about the community service you've done

1078
00:45:26,096 --> 00:45:28,096
Speaker 4: in New Orleans, because obviously you've been up for the

1079
00:45:28,136 --> 00:45:31,056
Speaker 4: Walter Peyton Man of the Year multiple times and you

1080
00:45:31,136 --> 00:45:32,976
Speaker 4: do a lot of great work. Talk about the passion

1081
00:45:33,016 --> 00:45:33,855
Speaker 4: there Man.

1082
00:45:34,536 --> 00:45:36,896
Speaker 9: At first, again, it was it was sort of selfish

1083
00:45:36,896 --> 00:45:39,736
Speaker 9: that I started talking to the middle schools and elementaries

1084
00:45:39,736 --> 00:45:42,496
Speaker 9: and high schools around New Orleans. Honestly, I was just

1085
00:45:42,496 --> 00:45:44,576
Speaker 9: trying to know my area, you know. So I was

1086
00:45:44,656 --> 00:45:46,576
Speaker 9: driving out in Bataruge and I was talking to you know,

1087
00:45:46,656 --> 00:45:49,536
Speaker 9: I was talking to people out it was a unis

1088
00:45:49,576 --> 00:45:53,376
Speaker 9: and going to New Iberia and possibly like just seeing

1089
00:45:53,416 --> 00:45:55,616
Speaker 9: what's out in the world. Like Man, for me being

1090
00:45:55,616 --> 00:46:00,136
Speaker 9: from Arizona, I've got Chandler, timp Mesa, Scottsdale, Peoria, all

1091
00:46:00,136 --> 00:46:02,896
Speaker 9: these surrounding cities that is just easily accessible in New Orleans.

1092
00:46:02,936 --> 00:46:05,176
Speaker 9: And sometimes it just feels like it's New Orleans because

1093
00:46:05,376 --> 00:46:07,616
Speaker 9: tenty five minutes away is your nearest city to get somewhere.

1094
00:46:07,776 --> 00:46:10,056
Speaker 9: Baton Rouge, you know. But it's like, all right, so

1095
00:46:10,056 --> 00:46:12,416
Speaker 9: what about these subdivisions? What am How can I impact

1096
00:46:12,416 --> 00:46:14,576
Speaker 9: my community? I don't know much about the South, being

1097
00:46:14,576 --> 00:46:17,656
Speaker 9: a West Coast kid. I know California, I know Arizona,

1098
00:46:17,896 --> 00:46:21,976
Speaker 9: I know you know Southwest Mexican food, Like I don't it.

1099
00:46:21,976 --> 00:46:23,176
Speaker 8: It's a staple for me. I could to.

1100
00:46:23,296 --> 00:46:25,016
Speaker 9: I get to New Orleans and I'm meeting Gator bites

1101
00:46:25,056 --> 00:46:27,576
Speaker 9: and boot and balls and oh it's a lockout year.

1102
00:46:27,616 --> 00:46:29,696
Speaker 9: So I don't know anybody. I'm just like I got

1103
00:46:29,736 --> 00:46:31,616
Speaker 9: dropped off in the South. Hey kid, figure it out.

1104
00:46:32,136 --> 00:46:33,576
Speaker 9: No you don't have your sign up on this hit

1105
00:46:33,616 --> 00:46:35,096
Speaker 9: yet because we don't if we're gonna have a season.

1106
00:46:35,216 --> 00:46:37,736
Speaker 9: I'm like, it's it's me and I'm meeting people, and

1107
00:46:37,776 --> 00:46:41,056
Speaker 9: I'm talking to the local bartenders. I'm talking to guys.

1108
00:46:41,096 --> 00:46:43,376
Speaker 9: I mean that Best Buy guys, I mean a Target.

1109
00:46:43,496 --> 00:46:45,016
Speaker 9: Hey man, you should try out this food. And the

1110
00:46:45,056 --> 00:46:47,296
Speaker 9: greatest thing about the South is they're so endearing, they

1111
00:46:47,336 --> 00:46:50,136
Speaker 9: bring you in. So after give it shown that much love,

1112
00:46:50,176 --> 00:46:52,536
Speaker 9: I'm like, man, I gotta give back. So beyond just

1113
00:46:52,536 --> 00:46:54,536
Speaker 9: talking to kids and high school is knowing where I'm at.

1114
00:46:54,576 --> 00:46:56,856
Speaker 9: How can I help my community? Oh there's there's a

1115
00:46:56,856 --> 00:46:58,976
Speaker 9: digital divide. How can I help break this down? Oh

1116
00:46:59,056 --> 00:47:02,176
Speaker 9: there's an appairment of trust and relations between you know,

1117
00:47:02,936 --> 00:47:05,816
Speaker 9: the police and as well in terms of how they're

1118
00:47:05,856 --> 00:47:06,896
Speaker 9: policing the public.

1119
00:47:07,256 --> 00:47:09,376
Speaker 8: How can I help that? You know, how do we

1120
00:47:09,376 --> 00:47:10,336
Speaker 8: bring in how how.

1121
00:47:10,296 --> 00:47:13,096
Speaker 9: Do we bring in leaders to community leaders and introduce

1122
00:47:13,136 --> 00:47:15,456
Speaker 9: that into you know, into the police force, and which

1123
00:47:15,456 --> 00:47:18,016
Speaker 9: may help because they got transplant police officers that don't

1124
00:47:18,016 --> 00:47:21,856
Speaker 9: know the lingo, they don't know the body mannerisms of

1125
00:47:22,136 --> 00:47:23,256
Speaker 9: what it is to be a New Orleanian.

1126
00:47:23,536 --> 00:47:24,696
Speaker 8: How is it that I can.

1127
00:47:24,616 --> 00:47:26,856
Speaker 9: You know, sit here and talk about, you know, how

1128
00:47:26,896 --> 00:47:28,856
Speaker 9: I want to help the next generation without actually going

1129
00:47:28,896 --> 00:47:30,936
Speaker 9: to these schools. Seeing these schools and they got broken

1130
00:47:30,936 --> 00:47:32,936
Speaker 9: binders and they've got you know, they don't have Wi

1131
00:47:32,976 --> 00:47:35,656
Speaker 9: Fi in twenty twenty or something, or they don't have

1132
00:47:35,696 --> 00:47:37,536
Speaker 9: the greatest science labs. And I'm like, yo, there's so

1133
00:47:37,576 --> 00:47:40,576
Speaker 9: many avenues we get to How beyond just money give time,

1134
00:47:40,776 --> 00:47:44,096
Speaker 9: give effort, you know, grant some of those Amazon wish

1135
00:47:44,136 --> 00:47:45,696
Speaker 9: lists that teachers have because they're coming out of their

1136
00:47:45,696 --> 00:47:47,736
Speaker 9: own pocket, which is crazy to me. They're not making

1137
00:47:47,816 --> 00:47:49,376
Speaker 9: enough money to come out of pocket, and yet they do,

1138
00:47:49,536 --> 00:47:51,016
Speaker 9: because that's the kind of heart to have. Or you

1139
00:47:51,096 --> 00:47:53,216
Speaker 9: see all these people that give back, they're like, man,

1140
00:47:53,256 --> 00:47:55,896
Speaker 9: how can I not want to get back as well?

1141
00:47:56,536 --> 00:47:59,456
Speaker 1: Off the edge with Cam Jordan the podcast, I appreciate

1142
00:47:59,496 --> 00:48:00,776
Speaker 1: the time, absolutely stay help.

1143
00:48:00,776 --> 00:48:03,016
Speaker 9: Appreciate for having me. That's about our tangent. Shout out

1144
00:48:03,056 --> 00:48:04,855
Speaker 9: to the Cam Jordan Foundation. We were able to send

1145
00:48:04,936 --> 00:48:07,576
Speaker 9: four kids the school last year. We just said another

1146
00:48:07,576 --> 00:48:10,216
Speaker 9: four this year. We paid for all the tuition. The

1147
00:48:10,296 --> 00:48:12,736
Speaker 9: legacy scholarship program that we've had over Cam Jordan Foundation

1148
00:48:12,816 --> 00:48:15,216
Speaker 9: has been phenomenal and I can't wait to say one

1149
00:48:15,296 --> 00:48:17,696
Speaker 9: day like, oh man, I've said, you know, this generation

1150
00:48:17,816 --> 00:48:18,736
Speaker 9: is cool, not that it's.

1151
00:48:18,616 --> 00:48:21,256
Speaker 8: Able, but whatever money we raised, we're definitely trying to

1152
00:48:21,256 --> 00:48:22,296
Speaker 8: push through to them.

1153
00:48:22,376 --> 00:48:41,056
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I appreciate it, thanks Camp. I watched some

1154
00:48:41,096 --> 00:48:43,856
Speaker 1: of the Pro Bowl games, very little of them.

1155
00:48:44,096 --> 00:48:45,256
Speaker 5: The Pro Bowl games.

1156
00:48:45,896 --> 00:48:48,136
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, that's called the Pro Bowl games now

1157
00:48:49,776 --> 00:48:53,376
Speaker 1: flag football. That other games, so the ratings are disaster,

1158
00:48:53,416 --> 00:48:55,416
Speaker 1: but they're supposed to be because everyone knows that's not

1159
00:48:55,496 --> 00:49:00,536
Speaker 1: that interesting. But you actually, when you were a Pro

1160
00:49:00,576 --> 00:49:02,296
Speaker 1: Bowl quarterback, you went to Hawaii.

1161
00:49:02,736 --> 00:49:05,136
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, dude, that was the good old days.

1162
00:49:05,456 --> 00:49:07,896
Speaker 1: I just want to know what the experience was like.

1163
00:49:07,976 --> 00:49:11,336
Speaker 4: In general, it was incredible because one being named of

1164
00:49:11,376 --> 00:49:13,216
Speaker 4: the Pro Bowl is obviously an honor. But then when

1165
00:49:13,296 --> 00:49:16,936
Speaker 4: you get to that destination of Hawaii and you get

1166
00:49:16,936 --> 00:49:19,656
Speaker 4: to stay at that hotel, you walking in, there's Ray

1167
00:49:19,776 --> 00:49:22,816
Speaker 4: Lewis and Suggs and Matt Light and Peyton Manning and

1168
00:49:22,896 --> 00:49:25,616
Speaker 4: Drew Brees and all these guys that you've watched over

1169
00:49:25,656 --> 00:49:29,536
Speaker 4: the years be that successful. It's it's one of those

1170
00:49:30,256 --> 00:49:33,256
Speaker 4: moments where you kind of pinch yourself right here amongst greatness.

1171
00:49:33,296 --> 00:49:35,656
Speaker 4: And coach Belichick happened to be our coach that year?

1172
00:49:35,856 --> 00:49:37,736
Speaker 1: Is that because you won the Super Bowl the year before?

1173
00:49:37,856 --> 00:49:38,656
Speaker 1: Is that how they coach?

1174
00:49:38,696 --> 00:49:42,816
Speaker 4: Oh, it's whoever loses in the AFC, AFC Championship and

1175
00:49:42,936 --> 00:49:45,496
Speaker 4: NFC Championship the year. Yes, of that year they have

1176
00:49:45,576 --> 00:49:49,136
Speaker 4: to go and coach in the Pro Bowl, or at

1177
00:49:49,216 --> 00:49:53,136
Speaker 4: least they used to. Nowadays, the coach they got celebrity

1178
00:49:53,136 --> 00:49:55,336
Speaker 4: coaching the coach. Yeah, but back.

1179
00:49:55,136 --> 00:49:57,776
Speaker 5: Then those guys not only did you lose.

1180
00:49:57,576 --> 00:50:01,416
Speaker 4: In the AFC Championship or the NFC Championship, but then

1181
00:50:01,416 --> 00:50:03,456
Speaker 4: you have to go coach the Pro Bowl and so.

1182
00:50:05,016 --> 00:50:07,856
Speaker 4: But the setup was so cool because it's only you

1183
00:50:07,936 --> 00:50:12,176
Speaker 4: and your families. And I brought out my family, I

1184
00:50:12,176 --> 00:50:14,335
Speaker 4: brought off my wife's family, some of my best friends

1185
00:50:14,416 --> 00:50:16,896
Speaker 4: to experience it with me, because it's something that's special

1186
00:50:16,936 --> 00:50:18,536
Speaker 4: for all of them and the people that support you

1187
00:50:18,616 --> 00:50:21,416
Speaker 4: through the years to give them access like that and

1188
00:50:21,496 --> 00:50:21,976
Speaker 4: be around.

1189
00:50:22,216 --> 00:50:24,136
Speaker 5: But I mean, practice is a joke.

1190
00:50:24,256 --> 00:50:26,616
Speaker 4: You wake up in the morning, you go get I

1191
00:50:26,656 --> 00:50:29,176
Speaker 4: went and got a workout in one morning. Peyton invited

1192
00:50:29,176 --> 00:50:30,816
Speaker 4: me to go get a workout in, which was great,

1193
00:50:30,976 --> 00:50:31,536
Speaker 4: but I was like.

1194
00:50:31,536 --> 00:50:33,216
Speaker 1: The workout you mean, like lift weights are thrown.

1195
00:50:33,296 --> 00:50:36,416
Speaker 4: He wanted to lift weights, so we went and lifted weights, dude,

1196
00:50:36,496 --> 00:50:38,976
Speaker 4: and I thought, I was like on vacation, but I'm like, cool,

1197
00:50:39,056 --> 00:50:41,496
Speaker 4: let's go, let's go lift weights. Then you go to

1198
00:50:41,536 --> 00:50:45,815
Speaker 4: this practice that is walk through tempo. You're just trying

1199
00:50:45,816 --> 00:50:48,136
Speaker 4: to learn the terminology that they put in front of

1200
00:50:48,136 --> 00:50:51,576
Speaker 4: you the night before, and then after that you go

1201
00:50:51,616 --> 00:50:54,096
Speaker 4: put your board shorts on and you're at the hotel

1202
00:50:54,136 --> 00:50:56,776
Speaker 4: bar and it's you rip it up for the rest

1203
00:50:56,816 --> 00:50:58,296
Speaker 4: of the day and hope that you wake up the

1204
00:50:58,296 --> 00:51:00,656
Speaker 4: next day in time for practice. And that's really how

1205
00:51:00,736 --> 00:51:04,616
Speaker 4: everybody's motive operation is. But it's a blast. You get

1206
00:51:04,656 --> 00:51:08,016
Speaker 4: to know people to sit down, tell good stories, especially

1207
00:51:08,096 --> 00:51:10,056
Speaker 4: guys that you've battled against that year. I think the

1208
00:51:10,096 --> 00:51:13,176
Speaker 4: cool part was probably the first meeting we had that

1209
00:51:13,256 --> 00:51:16,855
Speaker 4: both teams come into one room and the coaches talked

1210
00:51:16,856 --> 00:51:19,816
Speaker 4: a little bit, but then Peyton Manninget got up and

1211
00:51:19,856 --> 00:51:23,855
Speaker 4: gave an introductory speech and he's calling players out, like, hey,

1212
00:51:24,256 --> 00:51:26,056
Speaker 4: just guys, let's just make sure that there's not a

1213
00:51:26,096 --> 00:51:28,416
Speaker 4: camera around because that's when Ray Lewis will come up

1214
00:51:28,456 --> 00:51:31,016
Speaker 4: and start start talking and doing all that stuff. But

1215
00:51:31,376 --> 00:51:34,936
Speaker 4: he basically hammers people and all that stuff. But it's

1216
00:51:34,976 --> 00:51:36,976
Speaker 4: just a cool environment of a bunch of guys that

1217
00:51:36,976 --> 00:51:40,576
Speaker 4: you have respect for and that have obviously proven themselves.

1218
00:51:40,776 --> 00:51:44,096
Speaker 4: And then the week itself goes by and the game's fantastic.

1219
00:51:44,136 --> 00:51:45,656
Speaker 4: They sell out the crowd, but.

1220
00:51:45,656 --> 00:51:50,776
Speaker 1: The game itself as cool as it is. You're hitting

1221
00:51:50,776 --> 00:51:53,256
Speaker 1: each other, but you're kind of playing half speed right

1222
00:51:53,296 --> 00:51:54,416
Speaker 1: until he gets closer to the end.

1223
00:51:54,496 --> 00:51:56,296
Speaker 4: Now, there's only one guy that I know that I

1224
00:51:56,376 --> 00:51:58,936
Speaker 4: watched when I was out there that you got guys,

1225
00:51:59,376 --> 00:52:01,976
Speaker 4: Adrian Peterson. When he touched the ball, He's going one

1226
00:52:02,056 --> 00:52:03,816
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty miles an hour trying to run through

1227
00:52:03,816 --> 00:52:06,656
Speaker 4: people's faces and every these eyes are like, dude, Adrian's

1228
00:52:06,656 --> 00:52:09,176
Speaker 4: gonna get the ball. We got a man up right here.

1229
00:52:09,496 --> 00:52:12,416
Speaker 4: So it is definitely competitive, and it's a tackle football

1230
00:52:12,416 --> 00:52:14,576
Speaker 4: game and you see these guys. Competitive juices come out.

1231
00:52:14,576 --> 00:52:16,776
Speaker 4: But the fourth quarter is really hey, that's where the

1232
00:52:16,816 --> 00:52:18,896
Speaker 4: money is. Because you win the game, you get an

1233
00:52:18,896 --> 00:52:23,696
Speaker 4: extra twenty's for the trip, especially if you got people coming.

1234
00:52:23,736 --> 00:52:25,496
Speaker 4: I was like, come home, baby. We end up losing

1235
00:52:25,496 --> 00:52:27,056
Speaker 4: the game by a touchdown or something like that, but

1236
00:52:27,816 --> 00:52:29,256
Speaker 4: I mean, and then you go back and you have

1237
00:52:29,336 --> 00:52:32,176
Speaker 4: this incredible celebration with all the coaches and the players

1238
00:52:32,216 --> 00:52:35,056
Speaker 4: and the families, and they put out great food.

1239
00:52:34,856 --> 00:52:36,016
Speaker 1: And anybody get hurt.

1240
00:52:36,696 --> 00:52:38,416
Speaker 5: Nobody got hurt in our game, not that I know of.

1241
00:52:38,496 --> 00:52:41,096
Speaker 1: That's kind of the goal, right, Like the goal.

1242
00:52:40,936 --> 00:52:43,816
Speaker 4: Is to leave in one piece, for sure, because the

1243
00:52:43,856 --> 00:52:45,536
Speaker 4: last thing you want to do, especially at that time

1244
00:52:45,536 --> 00:52:47,576
Speaker 4: of the year. And that's why I think it is

1245
00:52:47,656 --> 00:52:50,736
Speaker 4: more tempoed in pace is because guys know the risk

1246
00:52:50,776 --> 00:52:53,016
Speaker 4: of injury would be brutal at that at that time

1247
00:52:53,056 --> 00:52:56,616
Speaker 4: of the year, in January, leading up to the next season,

1248
00:52:56,616 --> 00:52:58,856
Speaker 4: already you're just to talk about God forbid somebody to

1249
00:52:58,896 --> 00:53:00,296
Speaker 4: get a knee injury or something like that.

1250
00:53:00,576 --> 00:53:03,936
Speaker 1: So we're players like not cut blocking where.

1251
00:53:03,776 --> 00:53:06,976
Speaker 4: There are certain rules rules in place, there's no blitzing,

1252
00:53:07,656 --> 00:53:10,856
Speaker 4: or if yeah, there was no blitzing, no cut blocks,

1253
00:53:11,296 --> 00:53:15,096
Speaker 4: you only could play certain coverages. So it honestly is

1254
00:53:15,136 --> 00:53:19,416
Speaker 4: an exhibition in its truest for him, and there's really

1255
00:53:19,416 --> 00:53:21,736
Speaker 4: good players out there, there's no doubt about it, but

1256
00:53:22,336 --> 00:53:25,416
Speaker 4: there are definitely constraints on what you can and cannot do.

1257
00:53:25,496 --> 00:53:27,256
Speaker 4: And then also you get up to the bar and

1258
00:53:27,336 --> 00:53:30,216
Speaker 4: like Matt Light would be sitting there next to Sugs

1259
00:53:30,216 --> 00:53:32,376
Speaker 4: and be like, hey, you don't go hard on me.

1260
00:53:32,456 --> 00:53:34,936
Speaker 4: I won't go hard on you or whoever he was

1261
00:53:34,976 --> 00:53:37,616
Speaker 4: blocking that game. And so I remember in the game

1262
00:53:37,616 --> 00:53:40,456
Speaker 4: at one point Matt's doing like swim hands where it's

1263
00:53:40,456 --> 00:53:42,696
Speaker 4: like out in front of him and the guy's shimmering

1264
00:53:42,736 --> 00:53:45,656
Speaker 4: in front of him like not rushing, and I was like,

1265
00:53:45,736 --> 00:53:47,816
Speaker 4: oh wow, this is that took it to the next

1266
00:53:47,896 --> 00:53:49,536
Speaker 4: level at least you kind of see some guys go

1267
00:53:49,576 --> 00:53:52,656
Speaker 4: a little bit harder than others, but it was it

1268
00:53:52,656 --> 00:53:53,616
Speaker 4: was a great experience.

1269
00:53:54,736 --> 00:53:56,896
Speaker 1: Do you think they should have kept playing it full

1270
00:53:56,936 --> 00:53:59,776
Speaker 1: padded because I can understand why they stopped doing that.

1271
00:54:00,216 --> 00:54:03,656
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that part of it was early on

1272
00:54:03,856 --> 00:54:07,576
Speaker 4: and throughout its history, it was a game that was

1273
00:54:07,576 --> 00:54:09,335
Speaker 4: an honor to go to, and it was the free

1274
00:54:09,416 --> 00:54:12,896
Speaker 4: trip out there and all that. And then what I

1275
00:54:12,936 --> 00:54:15,656
Speaker 4: believe started happening was a lot of guys weren't showing up,

1276
00:54:15,736 --> 00:54:16,936
Speaker 4: maybe for risk of injury.

1277
00:54:17,016 --> 00:54:17,496
Speaker 5: Some of them.

1278
00:54:17,576 --> 00:54:19,976
Speaker 4: You know, you get done with a playoff game, whether

1279
00:54:20,016 --> 00:54:22,896
Speaker 4: you're Brady or somebody like that, and you you just look,

1280
00:54:23,016 --> 00:54:26,656
Speaker 4: you don't want to go play another game and to

1281
00:54:26,696 --> 00:54:28,776
Speaker 4: go out and travel. And so I think that they

1282
00:54:28,776 --> 00:54:30,815
Speaker 4: were losing probably some of the guys that they really

1283
00:54:30,816 --> 00:54:34,056
Speaker 4: wanted to showcase, and finally they said, it's not worth

1284
00:54:35,696 --> 00:54:39,216
Speaker 4: these guys potentially getting injured playing tackle football. We'll just

1285
00:54:39,256 --> 00:54:41,776
Speaker 4: make it a showcase somehow, some way, which has evolved

1286
00:54:41,816 --> 00:54:42,736
Speaker 4: into what it is today.

1287
00:54:43,056 --> 00:54:45,536
Speaker 1: Don't you think now at this point you just name

1288
00:54:45,656 --> 00:54:50,456
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl team that way, it's the literal Pro

1289
00:54:50,576 --> 00:54:53,376
Speaker 1: Bowlers as well that's making the team. They hit their contract,

1290
00:54:53,696 --> 00:54:57,656
Speaker 1: they get their incentive, first second, third string, Pro Bowl,

1291
00:54:58,016 --> 00:55:00,096
Speaker 1: and then they're not having to find new people, and

1292
00:55:00,136 --> 00:55:03,336
Speaker 1: then you get people that really didn't have Pro Bowl seasons.

1293
00:55:04,416 --> 00:55:08,416
Speaker 1: Name didn't say anybody specifically, but I think if they

1294
00:55:08,536 --> 00:55:10,976
Speaker 1: just named the Pro Bowl teams.

1295
00:55:10,976 --> 00:55:15,056
Speaker 4: Right, you name them and you like, I don't know.

1296
00:55:15,096 --> 00:55:16,896
Speaker 4: I know that they're trying to fill airtime into all

1297
00:55:16,896 --> 00:55:21,416
Speaker 4: that stuff, and people probably some people will tune in

1298
00:55:21,456 --> 00:55:22,016
Speaker 4: to watch it.

1299
00:55:21,976 --> 00:55:24,216
Speaker 1: But might as well play Madden against each other exactly.

1300
00:55:24,296 --> 00:55:27,656
Speaker 4: I don't. I have no interest in watching that game play.

1301
00:55:27,736 --> 00:55:28,736
Speaker 4: I really don't.

1302
00:55:28,776 --> 00:55:30,056
Speaker 1: It was a flag football game.

1303
00:55:30,136 --> 00:55:31,896
Speaker 4: They should honestly just send them on a trip out

1304
00:55:31,936 --> 00:55:33,776
Speaker 4: to Waii and do the same thing without the game.

1305
00:55:34,496 --> 00:55:36,296
Speaker 4: I mean, because if you're gonna spend that much money

1306
00:55:36,336 --> 00:55:38,296
Speaker 4: anyway to go down to Florida and set up shop

1307
00:55:38,376 --> 00:55:39,855
Speaker 4: and make a weekend that out.

1308
00:55:39,736 --> 00:55:44,856
Speaker 1: Of it, didn't they San Francisco. I think now they've

1309
00:55:44,856 --> 00:55:48,536
Speaker 1: brought people here. I'm almost positive that's where it was.

1310
00:55:48,656 --> 00:56:05,256
Speaker 2: Okay, now we're gonna go over.

1311
00:56:05,376 --> 00:56:08,496
Speaker 1: We talked to Scott Hallenbeck, who is the CEO and

1312
00:56:08,576 --> 00:56:12,256
Speaker 1: director of USA Flag Football, and we learned a lot

1313
00:56:12,296 --> 00:56:14,096
Speaker 1: about it because we think we know football.

1314
00:56:14,336 --> 00:56:15,696
Speaker 5: I think we might have a chance.

1315
00:56:15,976 --> 00:56:18,056
Speaker 1: Web we did not have a chance to play for

1316
00:56:18,136 --> 00:56:18,976
Speaker 1: the national team.

1317
00:56:19,256 --> 00:56:21,536
Speaker 5: I don't know, dude, with your quickness.

1318
00:56:21,056 --> 00:56:22,136
Speaker 1: I do not have quickness.

1319
00:56:22,176 --> 00:56:24,256
Speaker 4: I've seen you play pickotball. I'm telling you, I'm on

1320
00:56:24,256 --> 00:56:26,616
Speaker 4: one ankle, and if a guy only rushes me from

1321
00:56:26,616 --> 00:56:28,776
Speaker 4: seven yards away and he's not three hundred and fifty pounds,

1322
00:56:28,816 --> 00:56:30,336
Speaker 4: I think I've got an opportunity to get the ball

1323
00:56:30,336 --> 00:56:30,696
Speaker 4: out to you.

1324
00:56:31,176 --> 00:56:32,776
Speaker 1: This actually was pretty interesting.

1325
00:56:32,976 --> 00:56:33,776
Speaker 5: It was fascinating.

1326
00:56:33,816 --> 00:56:35,136
Speaker 1: Yeah, and how they're trying to build it up for

1327
00:56:35,136 --> 00:56:37,376
Speaker 1: the Olympics because there will be flag football in the Olympics.

1328
00:56:37,496 --> 00:56:40,216
Speaker 1: And then we talk about NFL players. So here he

1329
00:56:40,296 --> 00:56:43,296
Speaker 1: is Scott hallen Beck talking about flag football the United

1330
00:56:43,336 --> 00:56:47,376
Speaker 1: States team. Hey, Scott, thanks for hanging out with us.

1331
00:56:47,536 --> 00:56:51,336
Speaker 1: I got a lot of questions flag football. This is

1332
00:56:51,336 --> 00:56:53,456
Speaker 1: gonna be a real thing at the Olympics. Like who's playing.

1333
00:56:53,656 --> 00:56:56,856
Speaker 3: It's a real thing. Absolutely, we I mean, first of all,

1334
00:56:57,136 --> 00:56:59,536
Speaker 3: it'll likely be a combination. We're working through all those details.

1335
00:56:59,616 --> 00:57:03,736
Speaker 3: Is the reality. So NFL players are eligible, Okay, so

1336
00:57:04,136 --> 00:57:06,456
Speaker 3: I mean we're you know, we just had the Pro Bowl, right,

1337
00:57:06,736 --> 00:57:08,976
Speaker 3: all the players are saying they're interested. And I was

1338
00:57:09,016 --> 00:57:11,696
Speaker 3: just share with Matt that you know, this is it's

1339
00:57:11,736 --> 00:57:14,816
Speaker 3: not your grandfather's flag football. I mean, this is really sophisticated.

1340
00:57:14,816 --> 00:57:17,176
Speaker 3: It's five on five. It's a twenty five by fifty

1341
00:57:17,256 --> 00:57:19,336
Speaker 3: yard field, so less than half the size of a

1342
00:57:19,336 --> 00:57:23,576
Speaker 3: traditional football field, tack of football field, and it's you know,

1343
00:57:23,616 --> 00:57:25,656
Speaker 3: it's man to man. It's you're on an island on

1344
00:57:25,736 --> 00:57:28,816
Speaker 3: defense and offense. Even we had a game last night

1345
00:57:29,336 --> 00:57:33,256
Speaker 3: Team USA versus Team XCO men, so the highest quality

1346
00:57:33,296 --> 00:57:35,576
Speaker 3: players you know in the country right now playing what

1347
00:57:35,656 --> 00:57:38,456
Speaker 3: effectively was our gold medal game because we didn't get

1348
00:57:38,456 --> 00:57:41,376
Speaker 3: to have it in Panama during the Continental Championships. And

1349
00:57:41,536 --> 00:57:43,576
Speaker 3: the end of the score was thirty five thirty four,

1350
00:57:43,696 --> 00:57:47,696
Speaker 3: so a very competitive, high scoring, dynamic game. And these

1351
00:57:47,696 --> 00:57:50,056
Speaker 3: are the best athletes. Now you try to layer in

1352
00:57:50,176 --> 00:57:52,256
Speaker 3: NFL players in the process, is how are we going

1353
00:57:52,296 --> 00:57:55,616
Speaker 3: to teach them this very different style of football.

1354
00:57:56,656 --> 00:57:59,616
Speaker 4: My question would be with these NFL players you talked

1355
00:57:59,616 --> 00:58:02,176
Speaker 4: about the commitment level, talk a little bit about what

1356
00:58:02,216 --> 00:58:05,176
Speaker 4: that means if they do commit to doing this in

1357
00:58:05,216 --> 00:58:07,176
Speaker 4: the pool that they have to go into, but also

1358
00:58:07,256 --> 00:58:10,376
Speaker 4: from the drug testing policies and everything like that. It's fascinating.

1359
00:58:10,496 --> 00:58:12,736
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's just there's a The Olympic movement has

1360
00:58:12,776 --> 00:58:15,656
Speaker 3: a lot of sort of policies and procedures and bureaucracy

1361
00:58:15,736 --> 00:58:19,256
Speaker 3: like probably any you know, major sporting organization. So and

1362
00:58:19,296 --> 00:58:21,816
Speaker 3: it's a different world. So, for example, we're looking at

1363
00:58:21,816 --> 00:58:23,896
Speaker 3: the concept of next summer having what we're going to

1364
00:58:23,936 --> 00:58:26,816
Speaker 3: call acclamation camps. So we'll bring in NFL players, we'll

1365
00:58:26,816 --> 00:58:29,576
Speaker 3: teach them again this this version of football five on five,

1366
00:58:29,576 --> 00:58:33,336
Speaker 3: Olympic fives as we call it, and you know, we'll

1367
00:58:33,376 --> 00:58:36,376
Speaker 3: see what comes out of that. But the moment we

1368
00:58:36,656 --> 00:58:40,816
Speaker 3: create a pool of athletes, you know, elite flag football players,

1369
00:58:40,856 --> 00:58:45,376
Speaker 3: non pros and some number of pros you become you

1370
00:58:45,856 --> 00:58:47,896
Speaker 3: are now followed by the IOC and you're in what

1371
00:58:47,936 --> 00:58:50,256
Speaker 3: they call where about testing, So you have to tell

1372
00:58:50,296 --> 00:58:52,136
Speaker 3: them where you're going to be at all times, and

1373
00:58:52,336 --> 00:58:54,976
Speaker 3: the World Anti Doping Association can you come to your

1374
00:58:54,976 --> 00:58:57,096
Speaker 3: house and do testing. So we need to make sure

1375
00:58:57,096 --> 00:59:00,456
Speaker 3: the players understand all of this detail. Not to mention

1376
00:59:00,536 --> 00:59:02,776
Speaker 3: in twenty eight you're going to go through a process

1377
00:59:02,776 --> 00:59:06,696
Speaker 3: of trials to training camps building towards Olympics, not unlike

1378
00:59:06,736 --> 00:59:10,096
Speaker 3: an NFL season, we'll have cut down camps and eventually

1379
00:59:10,536 --> 00:59:13,576
Speaker 3: traditionally we're twelve players on a roster. In the Olympics,

1380
00:59:13,616 --> 00:59:16,496
Speaker 3: we can only have ten, so it's even tighter. So

1381
00:59:16,536 --> 00:59:18,096
Speaker 3: we're gonna have to work with them. But you're likely

1382
00:59:18,136 --> 00:59:20,216
Speaker 3: not gonna get any vacation time at all. In all

1383
00:59:20,256 --> 00:59:21,816
Speaker 3: of twenty eight. You have to go through your entire

1384
00:59:21,936 --> 00:59:25,136
Speaker 3: regular schedule for NFL and then squeeze in something called

1385
00:59:25,136 --> 00:59:27,616
Speaker 3: the Olympics as well, and go right back to the

1386
00:59:27,616 --> 00:59:28,816
Speaker 3: twenty eight NFL season.

1387
00:59:29,056 --> 00:59:33,056
Speaker 1: How's the NFL reacted to these players coming straight from

1388
00:59:33,096 --> 00:59:36,576
Speaker 1: games to play Olympics, to go back and the possible

1389
00:59:36,736 --> 00:59:38,816
Speaker 1: worst case scenario an injury happened.

1390
00:59:39,216 --> 00:59:41,976
Speaker 3: Obviously that's yeah, absolutely not what anybody wants. But the

1391
00:59:42,056 --> 00:59:44,776
Speaker 3: NFL is all in. I mean they've given credit. I've

1392
00:59:44,776 --> 00:59:46,776
Speaker 3: been working for twenty years at the NFL and they

1393
00:59:47,776 --> 00:59:51,136
Speaker 3: this is number one their biggest growth strategy internationally and

1394
00:59:51,176 --> 00:59:54,096
Speaker 3: it's working incredibly well with obviously the addition of their

1395
00:59:54,136 --> 00:59:58,256
Speaker 3: international games. So the owners have already made the commitment.

1396
00:59:58,296 --> 01:00:02,976
Speaker 3: They've said one player per NFL team can be on

1397
01:00:02,976 --> 01:00:06,736
Speaker 3: one of the country team. So in the Olympic movements,

1398
01:00:06,736 --> 01:00:10,176
Speaker 3: obviously it's USA Canada, Mexico, et cetera. There will only

1399
01:00:10,216 --> 01:00:12,896
Speaker 3: be six men's and six women's teams. It's not that

1400
01:00:13,016 --> 01:00:16,856
Speaker 3: many openings. So so I mean they want as many

1401
01:00:16,976 --> 01:00:18,976
Speaker 3: NFL players on as many of those teams as they

1402
01:00:18,976 --> 01:00:21,336
Speaker 3: can possibly get. That's what we're being told. So there's

1403
01:00:21,376 --> 01:00:24,416
Speaker 3: a real commitment to this on their end, and right now,

1404
01:00:24,456 --> 01:00:27,656
Speaker 3: both sides, the League office, USA Football, the International Federation,

1405
01:00:28,056 --> 01:00:30,416
Speaker 3: we're all working together to figure out exactly how this

1406
01:00:30,496 --> 01:00:31,056
Speaker 3: is going to work.

1407
01:00:31,176 --> 01:00:34,016
Speaker 4: And if you're a betting man, though, how many of

1408
01:00:34,056 --> 01:00:37,096
Speaker 4: those ten spots do you think actually would go to

1409
01:00:37,136 --> 01:00:39,736
Speaker 4: an NFL player, Because you're also the pool of players

1410
01:00:39,776 --> 01:00:41,776
Speaker 4: that you're talking about here. They're all going to be

1411
01:00:41,776 --> 01:00:45,056
Speaker 4: skilled players, right going to We're not talking about defensive lineman,

1412
01:00:45,336 --> 01:00:49,696
Speaker 4: offensive lineman. You're talking about highly skilled short area quickness,

1413
01:00:49,736 --> 01:00:51,536
Speaker 4: all those different elements that you have to have to

1414
01:00:51,576 --> 01:00:52,176
Speaker 4: play this game.

1415
01:00:52,256 --> 01:00:55,176
Speaker 3: That's exactly right, I honestly, I mean, it could be

1416
01:00:55,216 --> 01:00:58,776
Speaker 3: one NFL player could be ten the way I look

1417
01:00:58,816 --> 01:01:00,616
Speaker 3: at it, and you know, I'm not even in the

1418
01:01:00,656 --> 01:01:06,536
Speaker 3: room making the final decision. So is offensively, quarterbacks granted

1419
01:01:06,616 --> 01:01:09,136
Speaker 3: smaller tighter windows, tighter space on a twenty five x

1420
01:01:09,216 --> 01:01:11,896
Speaker 3: fifty yard field. They'll pick that up. It's all a

1421
01:01:11,936 --> 01:01:14,696
Speaker 3: matter of how much time do they really have. How

1422
01:01:14,856 --> 01:01:17,976
Speaker 3: serious are they about this opportunity to represent the country

1423
01:01:18,016 --> 01:01:20,496
Speaker 3: and get a gold medal. No one wants to risk

1424
01:01:20,576 --> 01:01:23,456
Speaker 3: losing the gold medal. Rogers said that the league, everyone's

1425
01:01:23,496 --> 01:01:25,976
Speaker 3: on board with that, like, we cannot lose the gold medal.

1426
01:01:26,176 --> 01:01:28,376
Speaker 3: But I will tell you the international the quality of

1427
01:01:28,416 --> 01:01:32,536
Speaker 3: the international competition has dramatically improved real quick. The way

1428
01:01:32,576 --> 01:01:34,696
Speaker 3: it works is the moment you're in the Olympic Games,

1429
01:01:35,096 --> 01:01:37,616
Speaker 3: now all of your government funding and everyone else in

1430
01:01:37,616 --> 01:01:40,776
Speaker 3: the world gets government funding, not the US. They just

1431
01:01:40,816 --> 01:01:43,696
Speaker 3: starting to get flooded with funding and money to improve

1432
01:01:43,736 --> 01:01:46,176
Speaker 3: the quality of their players and their teams and so forth.

1433
01:01:46,296 --> 01:01:50,736
Speaker 3: So everyone's getting better. So we expect real, real competitive

1434
01:01:50,736 --> 01:01:55,136
Speaker 3: flag football over there. But I would guess offensively probably

1435
01:01:55,576 --> 01:01:58,416
Speaker 3: most of the players. Defensively, when you have to pull

1436
01:01:58,496 --> 01:02:02,696
Speaker 3: flags deconstruct a defensive player from it's no contact. You

1437
01:02:02,776 --> 01:02:04,656
Speaker 3: literally can't put your hands on the receivers. You got

1438
01:02:04,696 --> 01:02:06,576
Speaker 3: to be running side by side with them. They're moving

1439
01:02:06,616 --> 01:02:09,656
Speaker 3: all over the place, They're dipping and spinning these crazy

1440
01:02:09,696 --> 01:02:12,216
Speaker 3: movement skills. You have to see it to understand it.

1441
01:02:12,976 --> 01:02:15,096
Speaker 3: To do that, I mean, I think that's going to

1442
01:02:15,136 --> 01:02:17,736
Speaker 3: take a little time. But again, we are talking about

1443
01:02:17,856 --> 01:02:20,736
Speaker 3: absolute freak athletes in the league, so I get that.

1444
01:02:21,176 --> 01:02:24,096
Speaker 3: So that's why the acclimation camps are so important. Invest

1445
01:02:24,176 --> 01:02:26,576
Speaker 3: some time together to understand this and we may be

1446
01:02:26,696 --> 01:02:29,896
Speaker 3: absolutely blown away and like, okay, there's ten guys, no question,

1447
01:02:30,336 --> 01:02:32,816
Speaker 3: or again there's some mix for what it's worth. I

1448
01:02:32,856 --> 01:02:34,776
Speaker 3: actually worked for the US Olympic Committee way back in

1449
01:02:34,776 --> 01:02:36,696
Speaker 3: the day with the Dream Team, the original Dream Team

1450
01:02:36,696 --> 01:02:39,496
Speaker 3: in ninety two, so I was there. I mean, that

1451
01:02:39,536 --> 01:02:42,016
Speaker 3: was an incredible moment. I actually think it's kind of

1452
01:02:42,056 --> 01:02:44,696
Speaker 3: cool to think of NFL players with non NFL players

1453
01:02:44,696 --> 01:02:46,496
Speaker 3: going for it and trying to win gold medal. I

1454
01:02:46,536 --> 01:02:48,456
Speaker 3: just personally think that's a neat, neat concept.

1455
01:02:48,896 --> 01:02:52,496
Speaker 1: A couple of dumb guy rule questions. Number one, you

1456
01:02:52,536 --> 01:02:54,256
Speaker 1: said only mandaman so kind of like in the NBA

1457
01:02:54,376 --> 01:02:56,376
Speaker 1: no Zone. And then two, you.

1458
01:02:56,416 --> 01:02:59,816
Speaker 3: Just can't play it. It's not technically a rule. You

1459
01:02:59,976 --> 01:03:03,696
Speaker 3: just you they'll pick you apart if you're not just

1460
01:03:03,976 --> 01:03:05,296
Speaker 3: playing mand a man the whole game.

1461
01:03:05,496 --> 01:03:08,576
Speaker 1: And then two, what's the rushing the quarterback rule?

1462
01:03:08,936 --> 01:03:10,016
Speaker 4: Okay, so great question.

1463
01:03:10,176 --> 01:03:13,456
Speaker 3: Yeah, So seven on seven is a one yard rush.

1464
01:03:13,816 --> 01:03:16,616
Speaker 3: It's five on five is a seven yards back rush,

1465
01:03:16,656 --> 01:03:19,736
Speaker 3: and in seven. In seven you actually can try to

1466
01:03:19,776 --> 01:03:21,616
Speaker 3: impede the rush and you can't use your hands, but

1467
01:03:21,656 --> 01:03:23,656
Speaker 3: you can try to use your body, and five on

1468
01:03:23,696 --> 01:03:26,256
Speaker 3: five you can, So it's a free shot to the quarterback.

1469
01:03:26,696 --> 01:03:29,976
Speaker 3: And what often happens is in a five setup, like

1470
01:03:30,016 --> 01:03:33,696
Speaker 3: the center is an eligible receiver, he might drop back

1471
01:03:33,696 --> 01:03:35,976
Speaker 3: and you could have a dual quarterback threat. So the

1472
01:03:35,976 --> 01:03:37,456
Speaker 3: moment you throw a ball, it has to be a

1473
01:03:37,576 --> 01:03:39,736
Speaker 3: you know, backwards pass. Now all of a sudden, you

1474
01:03:39,736 --> 01:03:42,136
Speaker 3: can run. So there's elements like that that just make

1475
01:03:42,136 --> 01:03:45,416
Speaker 3: the game more dynamic. We even have three quarterback sets sometimes,

1476
01:03:45,456 --> 01:03:46,976
Speaker 3: so they'll drop back and guys will all of a

1477
01:03:47,016 --> 01:03:49,096
Speaker 3: sudden peel off and go out and run. So it's

1478
01:03:49,616 --> 01:03:52,776
Speaker 3: the game is evolving sort of right between our eyes

1479
01:03:52,816 --> 01:03:56,736
Speaker 3: and right before our eyes right now and becoming very

1480
01:03:56,776 --> 01:03:58,856
Speaker 3: innovative on the offensive end the defensive side.

1481
01:03:58,936 --> 01:04:01,616
Speaker 4: And so, how many international competitions will you guys have

1482
01:04:01,976 --> 01:04:05,296
Speaker 4: every year that you can actually scout the opponents that

1483
01:04:05,536 --> 01:04:08,616
Speaker 4: you might play against and all that and learn about

1484
01:04:08,776 --> 01:04:11,176
Speaker 4: what we might be going up against in terms of competition.

1485
01:04:11,256 --> 01:04:15,496
Speaker 3: Great question, so that traditionally, once a year, the International

1486
01:04:15,496 --> 01:04:20,256
Speaker 3: Federation of American Football we call IFATH has a World Championship.

1487
01:04:20,296 --> 01:04:22,456
Speaker 3: So this summer, there's a World Championships every even year

1488
01:04:22,536 --> 01:04:25,136
Speaker 3: twenty six, twenty eight, thirty, and then in odd years

1489
01:04:25,176 --> 01:04:27,456
Speaker 3: you have Continental Championships. This is the way the Olympic

1490
01:04:27,496 --> 01:04:30,296
Speaker 3: movement works. So every year there's a big competition like

1491
01:04:30,336 --> 01:04:33,056
Speaker 3: that in addition to a World Games and now the Olympics.

1492
01:04:33,296 --> 01:04:36,016
Speaker 3: So we have to host more like soccer does friendlies,

1493
01:04:36,096 --> 01:04:39,016
Speaker 3: exhibitions like we did last night, and we'll create what

1494
01:04:39,096 --> 01:04:40,976
Speaker 3: we call the or are creating what we call the

1495
01:04:41,096 --> 01:04:43,216
Speaker 3: Rivalry Series. So now we'll do it once a quarter

1496
01:04:43,536 --> 01:04:49,456
Speaker 3: to invite teams in Mexico, Canada, Italy, believe it or not, Germany, Australia,

1497
01:04:50,096 --> 01:04:54,656
Speaker 3: Panama is coming on. Japan is like students of the game.

1498
01:04:54,656 --> 01:04:57,696
Speaker 3: They're just super locked in on this and super disciplined.

1499
01:04:57,976 --> 01:05:01,016
Speaker 3: It's really interesting how follows the culture. But yeah, we

1500
01:05:01,096 --> 01:05:02,536
Speaker 3: have to play as many of those games as we

1501
01:05:02,576 --> 01:05:04,936
Speaker 3: possibly can because the rest of the world's catching up.

1502
01:05:05,376 --> 01:05:07,696
Speaker 1: I would think for the promotion of the game, just me,

1503
01:05:08,416 --> 01:05:10,576
Speaker 1: you would want a couple of NFL guys and really

1504
01:05:10,696 --> 01:05:13,696
Speaker 1: somebody known to be an ambassador, right because we as

1505
01:05:13,736 --> 01:05:16,616
Speaker 1: fans will go, wow, I'll just use Jamar Chase. Why

1506
01:05:16,656 --> 01:05:18,496
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase is playing on the flag football team. We

1507
01:05:18,576 --> 01:05:20,856
Speaker 1: got to see what this is. Have you had and

1508
01:05:20,936 --> 01:05:22,176
Speaker 1: you don't have to say who, but have you had

1509
01:05:22,176 --> 01:05:24,336
Speaker 1: early indication that there are a couple of NFL guys

1510
01:05:24,336 --> 01:05:25,696
Speaker 1: that are super interested in doing it?

1511
01:05:25,856 --> 01:05:28,176
Speaker 3: Yes, So I believe it or not, there's there's a lot.

1512
01:05:28,976 --> 01:05:33,896
Speaker 3: I think it's the respectful filtering process of explaining like, Okay,

1513
01:05:34,256 --> 01:05:36,776
Speaker 3: this is really what this means, and this is you

1514
01:05:36,816 --> 01:05:38,256
Speaker 3: know how you got we got to work together to

1515
01:05:38,296 --> 01:05:40,456
Speaker 3: start all that out. So the short answer is absolutely,

1516
01:05:40,456 --> 01:05:42,776
Speaker 3: there's real genuine interest and very much some of the

1517
01:05:42,816 --> 01:05:46,096
Speaker 3: names you already mentioned, but ultimately sort of who's who's

1518
01:05:46,096 --> 01:05:49,456
Speaker 3: sitting there at the end of this process is you

1519
01:05:49,496 --> 01:05:50,776
Speaker 3: know what we're trying to figure it out.

1520
01:05:50,856 --> 01:05:53,176
Speaker 4: And talk to me about from a female standpoint too,

1521
01:05:53,216 --> 01:05:54,696
Speaker 4: because the females are going to be playing in the

1522
01:05:54,696 --> 01:05:58,136
Speaker 4: Olympics as well, yes, in the flight football, and how

1523
01:05:58,216 --> 01:06:01,176
Speaker 4: is the competition for the female side comparatively speaking to

1524
01:06:01,216 --> 01:06:01,856
Speaker 4: the males.

1525
01:06:02,416 --> 01:06:05,216
Speaker 3: So in both it's grown rapidly as oh my gosh,

1526
01:06:05,496 --> 01:06:07,176
Speaker 3: literally in my thirty years of being a sport, I've

1527
01:06:07,176 --> 01:06:09,656
Speaker 3: never seen anything scale faster. Again, you probably know these things,

1528
01:06:09,656 --> 01:06:12,536
Speaker 3: but already sixteen states with girls flags of varsity sport.

1529
01:06:12,616 --> 01:06:15,336
Speaker 3: The NCAA just passed it as an emerging sport for women.

1530
01:06:15,656 --> 01:06:18,056
Speaker 3: So literally, the sort of structure of the vertical, if

1531
01:06:18,056 --> 01:06:20,376
Speaker 3: you will, for girls and women is already built out

1532
01:06:20,416 --> 01:06:22,216
Speaker 3: and it's going to be a professional league next year.

1533
01:06:22,416 --> 01:06:24,696
Speaker 3: So they've built the entire thing in like four years.

1534
01:06:24,816 --> 01:06:28,016
Speaker 3: It's incredible. So there's something in the Olympic movement called

1535
01:06:28,056 --> 01:06:30,936
Speaker 3: talent transfer. And just think, so think of any sport

1536
01:06:30,936 --> 01:06:33,616
Speaker 3: you're just a flat out athlete. So we're talking you know,

1537
01:06:33,696 --> 01:06:37,856
Speaker 3: track athletes, basketball, volleyball, soccer, lacrosse, you name it. They're

1538
01:06:37,896 --> 01:06:40,976
Speaker 3: coming to football, particularly on the girls and women's side,

1539
01:06:40,976 --> 01:06:43,256
Speaker 3: because it sort of hasn't been open to them, right,

1540
01:06:43,296 --> 01:06:45,936
Speaker 3: and now they're coming. I mean apparently we hear, you know,

1541
01:06:46,056 --> 01:06:50,336
Speaker 3: girls that are absolutely rock stars in soccer are giving

1542
01:06:50,416 --> 01:06:52,896
Speaker 3: up soccer to come to flag football. And again there's

1543
01:06:52,896 --> 01:06:56,416
Speaker 3: already scholarships now the Division one all the way down

1544
01:06:56,496 --> 01:06:59,176
Speaker 3: to Division three are starting to offer and now there's

1545
01:06:59,216 --> 01:07:01,536
Speaker 3: nil money. I mean, it's just the floodgates are opened.

1546
01:07:01,856 --> 01:07:05,376
Speaker 3: So there's some seriously good athletes on the women's side

1547
01:07:05,536 --> 01:07:06,896
Speaker 3: and will only continue to get back.

1548
01:07:07,136 --> 01:07:10,096
Speaker 1: So as part of you guys growing goals, then to

1549
01:07:10,096 --> 01:07:13,296
Speaker 1: get high schools to have teams, and because again if

1550
01:07:13,296 --> 01:07:15,536
Speaker 1: they start in high school, then they go to college

1551
01:07:15,816 --> 01:07:18,016
Speaker 1: a scholarship in il then they play. I would assume

1552
01:07:18,056 --> 01:07:21,816
Speaker 1: this is assume there's some sort of evolutionary project, right

1553
01:07:21,896 --> 01:07:24,736
Speaker 1: like you would like even middle schools to eventually have

1554
01:07:24,776 --> 01:07:26,696
Speaker 1: women's flag football teams.

1555
01:07:27,616 --> 01:07:30,136
Speaker 3: I mean, so we USA Football as a governing body

1556
01:07:30,176 --> 01:07:32,896
Speaker 3: are providing all the resources and standards for you know,

1557
01:07:32,896 --> 01:07:35,176
Speaker 3: this is how you train your coaches, is the rules,

1558
01:07:35,176 --> 01:07:37,376
Speaker 3: this is the right standards, This is how you protect

1559
01:07:37,376 --> 01:07:39,976
Speaker 3: your athletes, background checks, all those kinds of things. And

1560
01:07:40,016 --> 01:07:44,536
Speaker 3: then yes, empower as many leaders in youth sport like

1561
01:07:44,576 --> 01:07:48,496
Speaker 3: you normally have in any other sport leagues, travel teams, tournaments,

1562
01:07:48,576 --> 01:07:51,696
Speaker 3: that sort of thing. And then yes, and if it's

1563
01:07:51,696 --> 01:07:53,656
Speaker 3: going to go into this classic side and the girls

1564
01:07:53,656 --> 01:07:56,296
Speaker 3: and women already has on the boys side, it's still

1565
01:07:56,336 --> 01:07:58,656
Speaker 3: traditionally tackle football, so it's likely going to be a

1566
01:07:58,656 --> 01:08:01,336
Speaker 3: slightly different model. I suspect again all this, to your

1567
01:08:01,336 --> 01:08:04,136
Speaker 3: point is evolving, but girls to women's already has a

1568
01:08:04,216 --> 01:08:07,456
Speaker 3: strong youth base moving into middle school and high school,

1569
01:08:07,656 --> 01:08:11,016
Speaker 3: and how college is coming on and again amazingly next

1570
01:08:11,096 --> 01:08:13,896
Speaker 3: year there will be a professional league for women and men,

1571
01:08:14,376 --> 01:08:19,616
Speaker 3: so that side is pretty well structured. On the boys side,

1572
01:08:19,656 --> 01:08:21,896
Speaker 3: it sort of starts really strong in the youth. They

1573
01:08:21,936 --> 01:08:24,176
Speaker 3: tend to go to tackle, which we support as well,

1574
01:08:24,176 --> 01:08:27,336
Speaker 3: of course, and now we're working on that talent transfer.

1575
01:08:27,416 --> 01:08:30,215
Speaker 3: So how do you go identify track athletes and basketball

1576
01:08:30,256 --> 01:08:32,456
Speaker 3: athletes and other athletes in high school that want to

1577
01:08:32,496 --> 01:08:33,896
Speaker 3: come play flag football?

1578
01:08:34,176 --> 01:08:36,336
Speaker 4: So do you think that flag football will be a

1579
01:08:36,336 --> 01:08:38,496
Speaker 4: staple in the Olympics for the long stay?

1580
01:08:39,056 --> 01:08:42,896
Speaker 3: Certainly that's our hope if I was a betting person.

1581
01:08:43,176 --> 01:08:45,696
Speaker 3: The NFL is again all into this. I mean, this

1582
01:08:45,816 --> 01:08:48,696
Speaker 3: is their international growth strategy. So I know for a

1583
01:08:48,776 --> 01:08:51,896
Speaker 3: fact that Roger has taken multiple trips down to Australia

1584
01:08:51,936 --> 01:08:55,776
Speaker 3: and is working The NFL is working closely with our

1585
01:08:55,816 --> 01:08:58,696
Speaker 3: counterparts down there, the Australian government, who's going to host

1586
01:08:58,776 --> 01:09:02,016
Speaker 3: in twenty thirty two in Brisbane. So I know there's

1587
01:09:02,056 --> 01:09:04,056
Speaker 3: a lot of interest, and I know the IOC is

1588
01:09:04,416 --> 01:09:07,576
Speaker 3: super excited about working with the NFL. So that all

1589
01:09:07,616 --> 01:09:10,736
Speaker 3: the pieces and the ingredients are there for continued success,

1590
01:09:11,136 --> 01:09:13,656
Speaker 3: and we're supposed to learn as early as probably late

1591
01:09:13,736 --> 01:09:15,976
Speaker 3: twenty six if it's in the twenty thirty two Olympics.

1592
01:09:16,176 --> 01:09:17,215
Speaker 3: So certainly the hope.

1593
01:09:17,056 --> 01:09:19,816
Speaker 1: Is yes, Scott, we appreciate the time. It's exciting. I'm

1594
01:09:19,856 --> 01:09:23,536
Speaker 1: anxious to see like how this develops leading up to

1595
01:09:23,576 --> 01:09:25,976
Speaker 1: the LA Olympics. I think that'll be super fun, super

1596
01:09:25,976 --> 01:09:27,416
Speaker 1: fun to follow. Thank you very much, Thank.

1597
01:09:27,296 --> 01:09:30,136
Speaker 4: You, Kim, Bobby and I try out. Yes, that's the

1598
01:09:30,176 --> 01:09:30,896
Speaker 4: next question.

1599
01:09:32,216 --> 01:09:48,136
Speaker 10: On the angles getting back dude.

1600
01:09:51,336 --> 01:09:54,055
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're gonna go and talk to Rob Wriggles.

1601
01:09:54,056 --> 01:09:55,656
Speaker 1: So when we were at the Super Bowl last week,

1602
01:09:55,976 --> 01:10:00,496
Speaker 1: we spent a little time with Rob Wriggles. No, I don't.

1603
01:10:00,536 --> 01:10:01,296
Speaker 1: I didn't know him.

1604
01:10:01,416 --> 01:10:06,456
Speaker 4: No, I only met him one time, and that's the correct, dude.

1605
01:10:06,736 --> 01:10:10,736
Speaker 4: And it was awesome. Yeah, it was a charity charity

1606
01:10:10,816 --> 01:10:14,576
Speaker 4: like softball or baseball event. It was a baseball but

1607
01:10:14,656 --> 01:10:17,576
Speaker 4: it was like a softer ball but they were actually pitching,

1608
01:10:18,136 --> 01:10:20,456
Speaker 4: and it was one of the coolest events I've been to.

1609
01:10:20,736 --> 01:10:23,175
Speaker 1: I can see where he's funny, Like he's just funny,

1610
01:10:23,176 --> 01:10:25,416
Speaker 1: even if he's not trying to be funny. He's a

1611
01:10:25,456 --> 01:10:27,055
Speaker 1: funny guy, but he's also massive.

1612
01:10:27,376 --> 01:10:28,616
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was a marine.

1613
01:10:28,856 --> 01:10:31,176
Speaker 1: So here he is comedian and actor Rob Wriggle. Rob's

1614
01:10:31,176 --> 01:10:34,936
Speaker 1: doing all kind of classic movies Step Brothers, Talladega, Knights, Hangover,

1615
01:10:34,976 --> 01:10:36,696
Speaker 1: twenty one, Jump Street. The list goes on and on,

1616
01:10:37,016 --> 01:10:40,536
Speaker 1: and so we talk about comedies and dramas, and here

1617
01:10:40,576 --> 01:10:46,496
Speaker 1: he is Rob Wriggle, Rob, good to see you, man, Hey,

1618
01:10:46,616 --> 01:10:48,976
Speaker 1: nice to see you. I feel like everybody gravitates toward you.

1619
01:10:49,016 --> 01:10:50,896
Speaker 1: I've been watching you walk around. Everybody's coming to Rob

1620
01:10:50,936 --> 01:10:51,536
Speaker 1: Wriggle show.

1621
01:10:51,576 --> 01:10:54,136
Speaker 11: Well, I don't know about that, but this place is

1622
01:10:54,176 --> 01:10:57,736
Speaker 11: busy as back. A lot going on for sure.

1623
01:10:57,896 --> 01:10:58,936
Speaker 8: But that's Radio Row.

1624
01:10:58,976 --> 01:10:59,696
Speaker 4: That's what it should be.

1625
01:10:59,816 --> 01:11:01,656
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question. I did Running

1626
01:11:01,656 --> 01:11:04,376
Speaker 1: Wild with Bear Girls twice. Yes, I know you did

1627
01:11:04,416 --> 01:11:08,296
Speaker 1: that show twice. Yes, yes, there's only three of us.

1628
01:11:08,536 --> 01:11:11,135
Speaker 1: Me and Tatum are the only ones to do it twice.

1629
01:11:11,416 --> 01:11:13,696
Speaker 4: That's great company, right, Yeah.

1630
01:11:13,256 --> 01:11:17,536
Speaker 1: That show for me was insanely cool. Did you ever

1631
01:11:17,656 --> 01:11:20,096
Speaker 1: feel scared because you have a different background than I

1632
01:11:20,176 --> 01:11:21,376
Speaker 1: do of like good manly stuff.

1633
01:11:21,936 --> 01:11:22,256
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1634
01:11:22,456 --> 01:11:25,976
Speaker 11: The last time we had to jump out of a

1635
01:11:25,976 --> 01:11:29,656
Speaker 11: helicopter a perfectly good helicopter, and I'm talking free fall,

1636
01:11:30,016 --> 01:11:32,696
Speaker 11: not the repelling we repelled at the top of the show.

1637
01:11:32,736 --> 01:11:35,976
Speaker 11: We repelled out of the helicopter. That was interesting, and

1638
01:11:36,056 --> 01:11:36,336
Speaker 11: I was.

1639
01:11:36,296 --> 01:11:36,896
Speaker 8: Okay with that.

1640
01:11:38,176 --> 01:11:43,856
Speaker 11: It was the fourteen thousand foot on oxygen, going up, up, up,

1641
01:11:43,936 --> 01:11:46,496
Speaker 11: and then jumping out that got my attention.

1642
01:11:46,576 --> 01:11:48,136
Speaker 1: I feel like because of your background, and they made

1643
01:11:48,136 --> 01:11:50,896
Speaker 1: it harder on you, maybe a little bit.

1644
01:11:51,016 --> 01:11:53,016
Speaker 11: Yeah, but bears Still, he's pretty fair.

1645
01:11:52,976 --> 01:11:53,656
Speaker 1: Isn't he awesome?

1646
01:11:53,696 --> 01:11:53,856
Speaker 11: Though?

1647
01:11:53,936 --> 01:11:56,376
Speaker 1: Like as a dude, like I felt so cups.

1648
01:11:56,536 --> 01:11:59,256
Speaker 11: I would never take the chances that I took with

1649
01:11:59,416 --> 01:12:03,256
Speaker 11: anybody else, but with him and his group, I was like, yeah,

1650
01:12:03,296 --> 01:12:03,896
Speaker 11: I'll jump out of.

1651
01:12:03,896 --> 01:12:05,376
Speaker 1: Play if you say so. Yeah, I belie.

1652
01:12:05,656 --> 01:12:07,056
Speaker 11: Do you want me to get in a ring with

1653
01:12:07,056 --> 01:12:07,496
Speaker 11: a tiger?

1654
01:12:08,696 --> 01:12:09,055
Speaker 4: Okay?

1655
01:12:09,296 --> 01:12:10,936
Speaker 8: Absolutely, I did that too.

1656
01:12:11,056 --> 01:12:11,256
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1657
01:12:11,256 --> 01:12:12,816
Speaker 5: Look, I don't have the same experiences.

1658
01:12:12,856 --> 01:12:13,576
Speaker 4: Okay, I haven't jumped.

1659
01:12:13,576 --> 01:12:16,055
Speaker 1: You only have an NFL cre Why don't you guys

1660
01:12:16,056 --> 01:12:16,496
Speaker 1: just talk.

1661
01:12:16,376 --> 01:12:18,496
Speaker 4: Out the city conversation.

1662
01:12:18,536 --> 01:12:21,255
Speaker 11: I've never had a two hundred and fifty pound angry

1663
01:12:21,296 --> 01:12:23,816
Speaker 11: linebacker trying to rip my head from my shoulders.

1664
01:12:23,856 --> 01:12:24,536
Speaker 4: It's a lot of fun.

1665
01:12:24,616 --> 01:12:27,496
Speaker 8: That's a lot of fear too. I would have imagine there.

1666
01:12:27,336 --> 01:12:29,096
Speaker 4: Were times where I would go into a game and

1667
01:12:29,936 --> 01:12:32,816
Speaker 4: there was trepidation. There was like, I'm gonna get hit

1668
01:12:33,416 --> 01:12:35,776
Speaker 4: so hard today. Maybe because it was the lack of

1669
01:12:35,816 --> 01:12:38,456
Speaker 4: confidence in the offensive line. Maybe it was just that

1670
01:12:38,496 --> 01:12:40,376
Speaker 4: guy's really good and it's gonna hurt. But yeah, there

1671
01:12:40,416 --> 01:12:42,016
Speaker 4: was definitely fear going into games.

1672
01:12:42,216 --> 01:12:45,576
Speaker 1: Wow, he didn't have the Bear Girls faith that we had.

1673
01:12:45,816 --> 01:12:46,136
Speaker 4: We had it.

1674
01:12:46,256 --> 01:12:49,656
Speaker 11: Yeah, it was an absurd faith too to a certain degree.

1675
01:12:50,216 --> 01:12:52,856
Speaker 11: Jerry Seinfeld has a joke about that where he talks

1676
01:12:52,896 --> 01:12:54,256
Speaker 11: about how he sits in the back of a New

1677
01:12:54,336 --> 01:12:57,336
Speaker 11: York City cab, doesn't put on his seat belt. It

1678
01:12:57,416 --> 01:12:59,096
Speaker 11: just looks out the window like it's a video game.

1679
01:12:59,456 --> 01:13:00,736
Speaker 11: It's like, oh, that was dangerous.

1680
01:13:00,776 --> 01:13:01,656
Speaker 8: Ooh that was close.

1681
01:13:01,856 --> 01:13:03,696
Speaker 11: That's kind of how I was with Bear, you know.

1682
01:13:03,776 --> 01:13:06,496
Speaker 11: It was like, oh, you know, all these amazing things

1683
01:13:06,496 --> 01:13:08,135
Speaker 11: are happening around me, and I'm like, but I'm okay,

1684
01:13:08,176 --> 01:13:08,736
Speaker 11: I'm with Bear.

1685
01:13:09,136 --> 01:13:11,376
Speaker 1: What do people come up to you and know you

1686
01:13:11,416 --> 01:13:15,296
Speaker 1: from the most? Is there a character they know you?

1687
01:13:15,456 --> 01:13:16,736
Speaker 1: Do they yell at you?

1688
01:13:16,936 --> 01:13:19,776
Speaker 11: I get a lot of quotes from The Hangover and

1689
01:13:20,656 --> 01:13:21,376
Speaker 11: Step Brothers.

1690
01:13:21,776 --> 01:13:22,896
Speaker 8: You get a lot of pals.

1691
01:13:23,296 --> 01:13:24,816
Speaker 11: I get a lot of pals I get a lot.

1692
01:13:24,656 --> 01:13:25,496
Speaker 8: Of not up in here.

1693
01:13:26,096 --> 01:13:29,816
Speaker 11: I get a lot of not you fat Jesus, you

1694
01:13:29,856 --> 01:13:31,696
Speaker 11: know in the face.

1695
01:13:31,856 --> 01:13:32,536
Speaker 8: I get a lot of that.

1696
01:13:34,936 --> 01:13:36,896
Speaker 11: The other guys I get some stuff from that too.

1697
01:13:36,976 --> 01:13:38,816
Speaker 1: And yeah, so do you ever want to do just

1698
01:13:38,856 --> 01:13:41,976
Speaker 1: a really serious like done?

1699
01:13:42,376 --> 01:13:45,576
Speaker 11: I've just now started to get offered dramas. Is that

1700
01:13:45,576 --> 01:13:46,136
Speaker 11: where you were going?

1701
01:13:46,216 --> 01:13:47,336
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what it was.

1702
01:13:47,456 --> 01:13:47,696
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1703
01:13:47,736 --> 01:13:51,776
Speaker 11: So, for whatever reason, you know, Hollywood is in a

1704
01:13:51,816 --> 01:13:54,256
Speaker 11: weird state. I don't know how to describe it. It's

1705
01:13:54,576 --> 01:13:58,176
Speaker 11: the paradigm has shifted. It's all upside down, so things

1706
01:13:58,216 --> 01:14:00,256
Speaker 11: don't work like they used to, and no one can

1707
01:14:00,296 --> 01:14:04,016
Speaker 11: explain it. It's really inexplicable. And so they're not making

1708
01:14:04,016 --> 01:14:06,175
Speaker 11: a lot of comedies, they're not making a lot of films,

1709
01:14:06,456 --> 01:14:10,416
Speaker 11: but they are still making things. So it's weird television shows.

1710
01:14:10,416 --> 01:14:12,016
Speaker 11: There are a lot of things going on there, but

1711
01:14:12,016 --> 01:14:15,496
Speaker 11: it's all binge watching. It's not MUSTLEYTV anymore, so it's

1712
01:14:15,936 --> 01:14:18,976
Speaker 11: a different vibe. As a result, there's not a whole

1713
01:14:19,016 --> 01:14:21,576
Speaker 11: lot of comedies being made, but a lot of dramas.

1714
01:14:21,656 --> 01:14:23,856
Speaker 11: So I've been actually last year I did four films,

1715
01:14:24,136 --> 01:14:26,176
Speaker 11: three of them dramas, one comedy.

1716
01:14:26,016 --> 01:14:27,896
Speaker 4: Is that a comfort zone for you to just switch

1717
01:14:27,976 --> 01:14:29,856
Speaker 4: from that comedic act.

1718
01:14:30,096 --> 01:14:33,216
Speaker 11: I love comedy, so I'm a fan of comedy. If

1719
01:14:33,256 --> 01:14:35,336
Speaker 11: I was given a comedy script or a drama script,

1720
01:14:35,336 --> 01:14:36,456
Speaker 11: I would do the comedy script.

1721
01:14:36,816 --> 01:14:38,255
Speaker 8: But I do love.

1722
01:14:38,656 --> 01:14:45,416
Speaker 11: The artistic freedom I guess to pursue other there's more

1723
01:14:45,456 --> 01:14:47,456
Speaker 11: than there should be more than one pedal on your flower,

1724
01:14:48,096 --> 01:14:51,816
Speaker 11: you know, And so I always appreciate the opportunity to

1725
01:14:51,856 --> 01:14:54,616
Speaker 11: do dramas because it's a muscle. I don't get to

1726
01:14:54,656 --> 01:14:57,296
Speaker 11: exercise very often, and I love it. I do, so

1727
01:14:57,456 --> 01:14:59,856
Speaker 11: getting to do those dramas this past year was fantastic.

1728
01:15:00,056 --> 01:15:01,936
Speaker 1: What do you do all weekend? Because you're doing a

1729
01:15:01,936 --> 01:15:05,336
Speaker 1: lot of stuff? Like what is it? NonStop normal?

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Speaker 11: It is the last three years the Chiefs have been

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Speaker 11: in the Super Bowl. I'm a super diehard Chiefs fan.

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Speaker 4: Man knows about this.

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Speaker 11: So, yeah, it's pacing yourself. There's a lot of activities,

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Speaker 11: a lot of fun things going on this year. I'm

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Speaker 11: up here at supporting the Pat Tillman Foundation. I'm actually

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Speaker 11: gonna be the starter for their the Pats Run, which

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Speaker 11: is a race they've done for twenty two years now

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Speaker 11: in Tempe, Arizona on April eleventh. You can go to

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Speaker 11: patsrun dot org to get more.

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Speaker 1: Information hats run.

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Speaker 11: Or PTF dot org, either one to learn about the

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Speaker 11: foundation and what they do. They're they're really a great foundation.

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Speaker 11: They support veterans and veterans families and do a lot

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Speaker 11: of good work. But this run is you know, it's

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Speaker 11: grown every year and she's got bigger and better. And

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Speaker 11: I was very honored to be asked to be the

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Speaker 11: starter for it, and I just like, I like the foundation.

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Speaker 11: I really believe in what Pat Tillman did. I mean,

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Speaker 11: if you talk about leadership, you talk about service before selling,

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Speaker 11: if you talk about sacrifice, there's no greater story than

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Speaker 11: Pat Tillman. So I'm a veterer myself, and therefore I

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01:16:12,336 --> 01:16:14,496
Speaker 11: see what he did, what he what he gave up

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01:16:14,536 --> 01:16:19,856
Speaker 11: to serve it. Really it moves me. So it's an honor.

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Speaker 1: An really appreciate the time. Yeah, busy man, great, very

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01:16:25,856 --> 01:16:26,416
Speaker 1: great to see you.

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01:16:26,496 --> 01:16:27,776
Speaker 11: Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for this week. Thank you

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01:16:33,056 --> 01:16:36,055
Speaker 1: guys for uh being with us through this football season.

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Speaker 1: Just so you know, we have a big announcement. We

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Speaker 1: are retiring just for today. We'll be back next week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll be back off season, in his off season.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll take some time, you know, take some off

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01:16:49,256 --> 01:16:52,216
Speaker 1: season time. Now, we'll be back very soon. I don't

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01:16:52,216 --> 01:16:55,056
Speaker 1: think we're gonna go next week, are we? Because you

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01:16:55,096 --> 01:16:55,776
Speaker 1: got a little.

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Speaker 5: Something, I got a little some I got a little

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01:16:56,936 --> 01:16:57,936
Speaker 5: anniversary coming up.

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Speaker 1: Baby, What if I if I I come back and

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01:17:01,176 --> 01:17:06,016
Speaker 1: it's like me and who would be your Brady doesn't count?

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01:17:06,336 --> 01:17:09,215
Speaker 1: Who would like be somebody that if I came back.

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01:17:09,056 --> 01:17:15,936
Speaker 7: With you're trying to replace guest host God Dannehill was

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01:17:15,976 --> 01:17:18,856
Speaker 7: so good Castle. Honestly, let's take two weeks off of

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01:17:18,936 --> 01:17:19,816
Speaker 7: both both.

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01:17:19,576 --> 01:17:20,936
Speaker 4: Weeks there's episodes release.

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01:17:22,256 --> 01:17:24,816
Speaker 1: We will not be here next week as far as

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01:17:24,856 --> 01:17:27,296
Speaker 1: you know, but after that we'll be back. Thank you

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01:17:27,376 --> 01:17:30,215
Speaker 1: guys for being with us all football season. That's Matt Castle,

1778
01:17:30,496 --> 01:17:33,216
Speaker 1: That's Brandon Ray, That's kick Off Kevin and Bobby Blon,

1779
01:17:33,256 --> 01:17:41,216
Speaker 1: who's had lots to say goodbye. Everybody lots to say

1780
01:17:41,256 --> 01:17:43,696
Speaker 1: with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Is a production of

1781
01:17:43,736 --> 01:17:47,776
Speaker 1: the NFL and iHeart Podcasts. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio,

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01:17:48,056 --> 01:17:51,016
Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get

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01:17:51,056 --> 01:17:51,776
Speaker 1: your podcasts.