1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Israel fighting back against Hamas now going on the offensive 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: in Gaza on the ground. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: The international community. 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: Of course, is saying that this is the worst thing 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: that could ever happen. Not the beheading of little infant 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: children and the beheading and raping of women that happen 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: at the hands of Hamas. 8 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: No, no, no, that is not the worst thing that 9 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 2: could happen. 10 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: It's Israel defending themselves and killing terrorists. That apparently is 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: the worst thing that could happen. If you listen to 12 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: the media. Now, Israel made it very clear what they're 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: doing and why they're doing it. The IDF says it's 14 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: increasing their ground operation in Gaza. I want you to 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: hear what they said on NBC about this, and then 16 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: you're gonna hear from Mark Regev from the Israeli government 17 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: talking about why they're doing this. 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: Listen carefully. 19 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: We are watching increased activity from Israel into Gaza, with 20 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: explosions there. The Times of Israel is reporting that Palacinians 21 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 3: say there is a gunfire being exchanged between IDF tanks 22 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: and troops in Gaza. This is according to the Times 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 3: of Israel. Joining US now is Ambassador Mark rege' senior 24 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: advisor to Prime Minister Benjamin Nyahu and a former Israeli 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 3: ambassador to the UK. Ambassador, thank you very much. Can 26 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 3: you tell us anything about this report from the Times 27 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 3: of Israel that there's gunfire being exchanged between IDF tanks, 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: IDF troops and Palestinians Commas. 29 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 4: I guess maybe, as you can understand, I won't go 30 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 4: into operations that are currently ongoing, but I can say 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 4: the following. We are beefing up the pressure on Commas. 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 4: We're hitting them hard. We'll be hitting them harder, and 33 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 4: the goal, as I said to you in a previous broadcast, 34 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 4: is to destroy the Hamas military machine and to dismantle 35 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: its control over Gaza. We're beefing up the pressure and 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 4: they'll doubly feeling it more and more. 37 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: Is this the ground incursion? Is it happening right now? 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: Is beefing up just another way to describe it. 39 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 4: I can't go into the current operation. That would be 40 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 4: unprofessional from my point of view. I can say this 41 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 4: that everyone was saying, well, Israel, you know it wasn't 42 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 4: going to do it, that Israel is waiting, that Israel, well, 43 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: we waited, we prepared, we planned and we're hitting them 44 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 4: where it hurts them. 45 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: Mark is absolutely right, And what are you saying there 46 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: at the end, that they should hit them where it 47 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: hurts them. That is something I think it's very valuable 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: and an important point that needs to be made over 49 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: and over again that this is a defensive decision by Israel. 50 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: Israel did not choose for their citizens to be attacked 51 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: in their nine to eleven in the butchery the way 52 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: that these Hamas terris did it. They did not ask 53 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: for Iran to train five hundred plus people and literally 54 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: parascel them in to kill innocent people at a concert. 55 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: They didn't ask for this fight. But it is certainly 56 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: theirs to fit. Now. The media, of course, is holding 57 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: Israel to a different standard than Hamas and the terrorists. 58 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: Mark Righev was also asked about war crimes, and I 59 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: want you to hear his response to that. 60 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 2: Listen, rules of international law are clear. 61 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 4: If there's a bridge, you can't target the bridge. The 62 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 4: minute the other side uses tanks to cross the bridge, 63 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 4: then the bridge is a legitimate target. Hamas has turned 64 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 4: the hospital into a legitimate target. I don't say we're 65 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 4: going to hit it. We don't want to hurt innocent civilians. 66 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 4: That's part of the is Ready mantra. We believe that sincerely, 67 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 4: but Hamas has committed a war crime and it must 68 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: be understood by the entire international community. Has committed a 69 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 4: grave war crime turning a hospital into its command and control, 70 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 4: and they deserve to be condemned from wall to wolf 71 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: with that sort of baga. 72 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: Now, what you just heard from that Israeli spokesman is 73 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: that there is a new story that the media is 74 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: not wanting to talk about. It is the fact that 75 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: Hamas's main operations based is now under Shifa Hospital in 76 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: Gaza City. The IDF is now saying. The military spokesperson 77 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: also says the terror group has several underground complexes under 78 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: Gaza's largest hospital. Senior Hamas members claims that Israel is 79 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: using this to change what they refer to as a 80 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: pretext for a massacre. Now, the Israeli Defense Forces said 81 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: that the Hamas Terra group's main base of operations, they've 82 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: located it. 83 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: It's under a hospital. 84 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: They provided visuals and intercepted audio is evidence of the 85 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: terror organization activities. In a briefing for reporters of international 86 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: media outlets, the IDF spokesman Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari said 87 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: Hamas has several underground complexes under the hospital. It's the 88 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: largest hospital on the Gaza Strip. They are used by 89 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: the terror groups leaders to direct attacks against Israel. Hagari 90 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: said Israel has intelligence that there are several other tunnels 91 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: leading to the underground base from outside the hospital, so 92 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: the Hamas officials do not need to enter the hospital 93 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: to reach it. But Hagari added that there is also 94 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: an entrance to the underground complex from within one of 95 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: the wards. Right now, terrists moved freely in the hospital 96 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: and other hospitals in Gaza. The military spokesman said Israel 97 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: has concrete evidence that hundreds of terrists flooded into the 98 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: hospital to hide following the October seventh massacre, in which 99 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: some twenty five hundred Terrasts burst through the border undercover 100 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: of a delusion of rockets and rampage through more than 101 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: twenty communities near the Gaza Strip. They killed some oney 102 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: four hundred people, the vast majority of them civilians, massacring 103 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: them in their homes and at an outdoor music festival. 104 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: They also abducted over two hundred and twenty people to 105 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: the strip as hostages, and many of them they expect 106 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: are going to be dead. According to the IDF, hamasa's 107 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: internal security has also had a command center inside of 108 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: the Sifa Hospital from which it directs rocket fire on 109 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: Israel and stores their weaponry. The hospital's energy infrastructure is 110 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: also used by hamas's underground base, accusing the terror group 111 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: of using the hospital and its occupants more than one thousand, 112 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: five hundred beds and some four thousand staff, as human shields. 113 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: The information on Hamas's use of the hospital is based 114 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: on a wide range of intelligent sources collected by the 115 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: military intelligence and the Shinbet security agency. Hagari said the 116 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: intel has already been provided to its allies. A senior 117 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: member of the Hamas political bureau said that the Israeli 118 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: military's allegations were quote unquote unfounded. Of course, the terrorist 119 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: group would say that saying this, there's no basis in 120 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: truth and what the spokesman of the Enemy army stated, 121 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: accusing Israel of making up the allegations to pave the 122 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: way for a new massacre to be committed against our people. 123 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: He claimed forty thousand gosins have sought refuge in the 124 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: hospital as a result of Israel's aerial bombardment of the 125 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: strip following the terror group's massive shack assault three weeks ago, 126 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: and called on Arab and Muslim leaders to take action 127 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: to stop the genocide against our people. Hamas wages war 128 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: from the hospital. That's the headline. You need to understand. 129 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: The terror group was also using fuels swored in hospitals 130 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: to help carry out their operations. Again, that is something 131 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: else that every American needs understanding. You need to take 132 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: this information and you need to tell it to everybody 133 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: you know. Now terrorists are moving freely in this hospital 134 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: and other hospitals. Hamas is using the hospitals and taking 135 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: away resources from those that are actually needing aid. Hamas 136 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: Terras purposely are operating inside hospitals precisely because they know 137 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: the IDF wouldn't not more than likely attack the hospital 138 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: because the IDF distinguishes between terrists and civilians. Israel targets terrists, 139 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: Hamas targets Israeli civilians and even Gaza civilians, is what 140 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: the IDF said. In another statement, the military spokesman asserted 141 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: that Hamas is stealing fuel from the civilians in Gaza. 142 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: Israel block the entrance of fuel into the strip once 143 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: the war started, so he appeared to be referring to 144 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: fuel that was already in Gaza. There is fuel in 145 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: hospitals in Gaza, and Hamas is using it for its 146 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: tear infrastructure, playing a recording that he said was a 147 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: conversation between a pair of Gazen residents who make the 148 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: revelation talking about exactly what happened. In another conversation aired 149 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: by the military, a senior Gazen energy official revealed that 150 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: Hamas currently has at least a million leaders of gasoline 151 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: and possibly more, which it stole from civilian projects and 152 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: is currently hoarding to power its tunnel networks. 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It was what a week and a half 181 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: ago when the US media hyped Haamosis information sparking global 182 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: uprising claiming that Israel struck a hospital in Gaza that 183 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: didn't happen. In fact, we found out that it was 184 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: actually a rocket fired by Hamas that hit the parking 185 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: lot of that hospital. The hospital was still standing, people 186 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: did not die inside of the hospital. But what did 187 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: the US media do? And let me just start with 188 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: something that's amazing to me. I'm going to start by 189 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: playing you Chris Clomo telling you don't believe everything you 190 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: hear or see on social media because some of it 191 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: can be, as he describes it, misinformation. 192 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: Right, stay vigilant to not get duped. 193 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: Then the very next statement you're going to hear is 194 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: Chris Cuomo being duped and giving you misinformation on this 195 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: Israel a fake attack on a hospital. Listen carefully, and 196 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: he's not the only one in the media that has 197 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: been lying on behalf of the terrorists. 198 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 5: If there's a great opportunity for missing disinformation, especially on 199 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 5: social media, I caution you to be very careful about 200 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 5: what you choose to believe and on what basis The 201 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 5: horrific scene at a hospital in Gaza today, an explosion 202 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 5: that killed more than five hundred people. The government in 203 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 5: Gaza says the Israeli Defense forts has struck a hospital 204 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 5: in the center of Gaza City. 205 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 6: It's an airstris kid a Gaza City hospital, killing at 206 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 6: least five hundred people. 207 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 3: Because of an alleged Israeli airstrike on a hospital in 208 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: Gaza that Hamma's health officials say killed more than five 209 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: hundred people. 210 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 7: And when you're talking about five hundred people, you have 211 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 7: to wonder how many of those people are innocent civilians. 212 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 8: That minimum hundreds of people have been killed in what 213 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 8: they say was an Israeli air strike where. 214 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 9: A hospital was caved in, killing hundreds and stranding an 215 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 9: untold number under the concrete. 216 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 7: By far the deadliest Israeli airstrike. 217 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 8: Ever, Hundreds taking shelter at a Gaza City hospital were 218 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 8: killed in an Israeli air strike today. 219 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 2: Israel says it was targeting Hamas hideouts. Palestinian officials saying 220 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,599 Speaker 2: at least five. 221 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 10: Hundred people killed in what they claim was an Israeli airstrike. 222 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 3: Aftermath of an alleged air strike on a Gaza hospital 223 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 3: that killed more than five hundred people. 224 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 8: An Israeli missile struct the hospital absolutely horrific loss of life. 225 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 7: This is not the first time Bounds has actually hit 226 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 7: what's supposed to be obviously a place of healing. 227 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: Deadly explosion at a hospital in Gaza. 228 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 5: Kallaspior official say hundreds were killed and they're blaming Israel. 229 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 11: This was not a blast, This was not an explosion. 230 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 8: This was an air strike. It was a deliberate or 231 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 8: crime that Israel conducted on this hospital. 232 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 7: At least two to three hundred people killed in that 233 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 7: strike and many, many, many more feared dead. Now Hamas 234 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 7: is calling this a genocide. 235 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 6: Three hundred to three hundred people believed to be dead 236 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 6: at a stage. 237 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 2: Are also many examples of. 238 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 5: Civilian deaths caused directly by Israel. 239 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. 240 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: In the fog of war, what can we say for sure? 241 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 8: The Baptist hospital in Gaza City, that's the northern half 242 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 8: of Gaza, has taken a direct hit from an Israeli 243 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 8: air strike. They are saying at minimum, at minimum three 244 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 8: hundred people are dead. 245 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: Egypt is saying it's very upset about this hospital bombing. 246 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: Is The World Health Organization has strongly condemned the attack. 247 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 2: How about don't bomb the hospitals? How about you you 248 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: just admitted that you did bomb the hospital. 249 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,359 Speaker 7: And today the death toll rose significantly. 250 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: In a horrific attack in Gaza, two hundred to three 251 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: hundred people were killed. 252 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 6: The Palestinians are talking about five hundred dead. Some initially 253 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 6: they talked about true three hundred late later up that 254 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 6: number to five hundred. It is unlikely that a rocket, 255 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 6: a crude rocket fired by Palasadian group, could cause that 256 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 6: number of casualties. 257 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 7: Hard to see how that would have been a misfire rocket. 258 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 8: This kind of death toll is not what you normally 259 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 8: associate with Palestinian rockets. These rockets are dangerous, they are deadly, 260 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 8: They do not tend to kill hundreds of people. And 261 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 8: we should say finally that there are instances in the 262 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 8: past where the Israeli military has said things in the 263 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 8: immediate aftermath of an incident that it turned out not 264 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 8: to be true. 265 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: In the long run. 266 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,359 Speaker 7: Quote a mind from hell is the one who deliberately 267 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 7: bombs a hospital. 268 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: This is in response to the strike at the hospital. 269 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 7: This is a new level in terms of the fact 270 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 7: that it was a hospital and the fact that so 271 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 7: many people were killed. 272 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 9: What is your understanding of what happened in this hospital. 273 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 10: It's one of those situations whereas I look at the 274 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 10: two of you and Nicole Rachel sitting where you are 275 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 10: at the studio, you do understand that what we've just 276 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 10: been amplifying is what the Harmas have said. 277 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: By the way, to be clear, everything you just heard 278 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: was a lie, and the media jumped all over it 279 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: to tell you this lie. 280 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: They took a lie that they knew was coming from. 281 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: Terraces right because the people that were giving them the 282 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: news was Hamas, and Hamas was telling you that this happened. 283 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: The problem was it didn't happen. 284 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: You heard those reports there from US news networks that 285 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: this hospital had imploded, had cratered in. 286 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: Didn't happen. At least five hundred dead. 287 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: Also didn't happen, that the hospital was targeted by a 288 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: military air strike. You heard that Hamas leader on TV 289 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: being interviewed with that type of propaganda. Again, didn't happen. 290 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: Never had folks, It's a lie. It never happened. So 291 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: you now see Israel is proving that this hospital in Gaza, 292 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: the biggest hospital there, is being used by the terrorists 293 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: as a place for them to conduct their war operations 294 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: against innocent people in Israel, and they're using it as 295 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: a safe place for them to sleep because they know 296 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: that Israel is held to a different standard. I hate 297 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: the idea of hitting a hospital, I want to be 298 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: clear about that. I also think it's incredibly unfair for 299 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: Israel to be held to such a ridiculously high standard 300 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: when there are people they killed. I mean, this is 301 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: their nine to eleven. I don't know how many different 302 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: ways to say that. Okay, this is their nine to eleven. 303 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: Make no mistake, this is their nine to eleven, and 304 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: we're sitting there wanting to hold them to this standard. 305 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: To me, is an unrealistic standard of perfection when you 306 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: have people that are playing by the worst rules and 307 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: the most violent rules we've ever seen. 308 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 2: And again, these terrorists, they know what they're doing. 309 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: Gaza hospitals have been a key feature of this now 310 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: three week on Gaza war. You go back to Hamas 311 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: on October seventeenth, claiming that Israeli strike targeted a hospital 312 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: in Gaza, killing over five hundred. 313 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: It was a lie. 314 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: The claim was just proven within hours by Israel and 315 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: US intelligence, which found that the explosion occurred just outside 316 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: the hospital and was called by an arrant Islamic jihad 317 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: rocket that killed far fewer than five hundred. Again, but 318 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: the media reported it the way that I just played 319 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: it for you. 320 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: And since Israel launched. 321 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: Retaliatory error strikes and artillery strikes on the day of 322 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: the attack, Israel, all right, say, Hamas is now claiming seven, 323 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty six people have been killed in 324 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: the Gaza strip according to figures released by the territories 325 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: Hamas run health Minister. Nobody should believe anything these guys say, 326 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: and what's happening. The rest of the world runs with 327 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: those numbers, and they tell you that they're true, that 328 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: they're verified, that they're accurate. 329 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 2: This is not true. 330 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: The one number that I do believe is Israel saying 331 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: it's killed one thy five hundred Hamas terras inside Israel 332 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: honor after October the seventh. I believe that number, but 333 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: I do not believe the rest of what they are 334 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: now trying to sell us. 335 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: There are also a. 336 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: Lot of idiots, useful idiots, I would argue, anti Semites 337 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: that are not just in the US media, that are 338 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: apologists for terrorist organizations and Hamas and the Palestinians. But 339 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: there's members of Congress that are disgusting because they know 340 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: the truth, they know the facts. 341 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: Let me give you an example of this. 342 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: Senator Bernie Sanders came out and and said this about 343 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: Israel from the floor of the Senate. 344 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 12: The Palestinian people today are experiencing nothing less than a 345 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 12: humanitarian disaster. Thousands are already dead, including many children, perhaps 346 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 12: thousands of children, and far more have been wounded. Hundreds 347 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 12: of thousands have been fought. 348 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: This is a man, Bernie Sanders, who says that Israel 349 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: does not have the right to violate international language indiscriminate 350 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: warfare against innocent men, women and children. They didn't start this, sir, 351 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: you should know that. But this is one of those 352 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: useful idiots. This is one of those people in America 353 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: that they're hoping, you know, we'll say these types of things. 354 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: Hamas official, by the way, was stormed stormed out of 355 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: a BBC interview when asked about Israeli civilians killed. 356 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: Listen to this. 357 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 13: Military operation was directed for military purposes, for the military sides, 358 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 13: hundreds of civilians who killed, and for the military astrologiers 359 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 13: who impose sanctions and collective punishment against our people. And 360 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 13: I think from the first moment, we declare that this 361 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 13: operation is not was not directed to the civilians. But 362 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 13: I can confirm and assure again and again that there 363 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 13: was no command, no command to kill any civilians. 364 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 11: How do you justify killing people as they sleep, you know, families, 365 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 11: How do you just. 366 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 13: I want to start this in I want to stop this, I. 367 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 2: Want I want to stop this interview. 368 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: At least there's somebody at the BBC that had the 369 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: counties to just ask a basic question. And while that's 370 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: happening with the Hamas leader Rashid Talib yelling at reporters, 371 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: asking if she will denounce a moss, she says, you're 372 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: dehumanizing Palestinians. 373 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: Congress went, will you denounce to us? 374 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 375 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 7: Will you denounce to us? 376 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: Why do you support terras? 377 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 6: You're dehumanizing Palestine. 378 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: No, you're you're supporting terrorists. No, you're supporting terrorists. You're 379 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 2: supporting terrorists. 380 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: She starts yelling, who are you identify yourself, yelling at 381 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: this reporter, you're dehumanizing Palestines. It's the one that has 382 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: a Palatinan flag flying outside. 383 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 2: Of her office. 384 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: Now we've got our own problems outside of this, by 385 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: the way, we have now finally responded after a dozen 386 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: attacks on American installations in the Middle East with a 387 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: bombing of a place we're not even sure a single 388 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: terrorists was in because we're being measured in our response. 389 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: I want you to hear what the Pentagon press singer 390 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: two very said about the US strikes striking Iran link 391 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: targets in Syria. 392 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 9: Thank you for making time for us. The Defense secretary 393 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 9: called these self defense strikes. Why this response now? And 394 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 9: do you think they'll serve as an effective deterrent against 395 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 9: further attacks? 396 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 14: Yeah, first of all, thanks very much for having me. 397 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 14: And as you highlight, these are self defense strikes. We 398 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 14: have US forces in Iraq and Syria for one reason 399 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 14: and one reason only, and that's to support the ongoing 400 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 14: mission to defeat ISIS. Our forces are in Iraq at 401 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 14: the invitation of the government Iraq to assist their security 402 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 14: forces on that important mission. And so, as we've said 403 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 14: from the very start, we will maintain the inherent right 404 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 14: of self defense and we will take all necessary measures 405 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 14: to protect our forces and our interests overseas. And so 406 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 14: these strikes were very surgical, very targeted to send a 407 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 14: clear message that we will protect our forces It's also 408 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 14: important understand we do not want a conflict with Iran. 409 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 14: We not to widen this, and so hopefully they get 410 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 14: that message out and clear and they will cease these 411 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 14: attacks against our forces in Iraq and Syria. 412 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 9: So the Defense Secretary says Iran is behind these attacks. 413 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 9: You believe that that's the case, right, So do you 414 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 9: think Iran is trying to further entangle the US in 415 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 9: the current conflict in the region. Does Iran want the 416 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 9: US to be involved in a war? 417 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 14: Well, look, to your point, we are very focused on 418 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 14: ensuring that the situation with Israel fighting Hamas does not 419 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 14: become a wider regional conflict. This is why you've seen 420 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 14: US descend additional assets into the Middle East region to 421 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 14: include the USS Ford Carrier Strike Group, the USS Eisenhower 422 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 14: Carrier Strike Group, which will go into the US Central 423 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 14: Command area of responsibility, because we don't want to see 424 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 14: this widen. In terms of these Iraq Iran sponsored proxy 425 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 14: and militia groups, We've seen this kind of behavior in 426 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 14: the past. They foment an attempt to foement instability in 427 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 14: the region. But again, our forces are there for a 428 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 14: very specific purpose and we will not hesitate to take 429 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 14: action to protect those forces as they do this important 430 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 14: work on the ground in both of those countries, right, which. 431 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: You already did. You took action. 432 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 9: So what kind of response do you expect from Iran? 433 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: Well, you know, we'll see. 434 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 14: We'll see if Iran gets the message. But you know, 435 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 14: as we. 436 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: Get it and it will see if Iran gets the message. 437 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: I mean this idea that we're going to do such 438 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: a limited strike that we're going to quote, see if 439 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: Iran gets the message. I don't even recognize our government anymore. 440 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: There is evil in the world. We used to understand that, 441 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: and we used to respond to it. You know, the 442 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: Pentagon secretary is saying, we do not want conflict with 443 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: the Ran. I'm glad to see that he said, we 444 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: do not want, we do not seek to widen this. 445 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: I agree with that. I'm glad that he said that 446 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: as well. But to wait and see if they get 447 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: the message. What world are you living in now? This 448 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: also comes as Iran's foreign minister comes to America to 449 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: the United Nations and warns the United States of America 450 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: that if we don't get out of Israel and helping 451 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: Israel and stopping the war in Gaza, that the. 452 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: US will not be spared. 453 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: This is the Iranian Foreign Minister in America at the 454 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: UN in New York City saying this. 455 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 11: I say, frankly to the American statesman who are now 456 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 11: managing the genocide in Palestine, that we do not welcome 457 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 11: to expansion of the war in the region, but I 458 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 11: will if the genocide in Gazza continues, they will not 459 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 11: be spared from this fire. 460 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 2: They will not be spared. Wow. 461 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: So we're limiting our response, and their response is will 462 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: come to America, to the United Nations, and we'll tell 463 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: you that if you don't stop what we describe as 464 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: a genocide in Gaza, America will not be spared. 465 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: I'll say it again. 466 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: Wow, this is unbelievable America. I cannot even recognize right 467 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: now based on what we are witnessing. 468 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: It is truly, to me shocking. It makes me sad. 469 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: It is concerning on a level that I have and 470 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: I mean this. 471 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: It is. 472 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: It is shocking on a level that I can't even comprehend. 473 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: And yet here we are having this conversation and we're 474 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: being told what we can and can't do by terrorists, 475 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: and they're threatening us, They're threatening us, and apparently we're 476 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: just gonna sit there and I don't know, take it, 477 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: cause why not, right, I guess we just have to 478 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: take it and deal with it, don't forget. 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