1
00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,600
Speaker 1: The Sunday Hang is brought to you by Chalk Natural

2
00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,520
Speaker 1: Supplements for guys, gals, and nothing in between. Fuel your

3
00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,160
Speaker 1: day at Chalk dot Com.

4
00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:15,280
Speaker 2: Bold reverence, and occasionally random The Sunday Hang with playing podcast.

5
00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:16,599
Speaker 2: It starts now.

6
00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,560
Speaker 3: I remember the first time.

7
00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,599
Speaker 4: Then I came across or heard about TikTok. It was

8
00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,600
Speaker 4: during the pandemic. Actually, so I was at home and

9
00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,440
Speaker 4: I looked something like a wooly mammoth. Did you have

10
00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,040
Speaker 4: the full like no haircut thing for a long time?

11
00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,600
Speaker 4: I think I went four or five. I actually cut

12
00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,879
Speaker 4: my own hair for a while, which was at what ages.

13
00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,440
Speaker 3: During the pandemic? Clay not as like a child.

14
00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,360
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you were like talking about like in college,

15
00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,720
Speaker 1: like you were living and you know, like I'm saying,

16
00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,640
Speaker 1: when everything was shut down, you could nothing shut down here,

17
00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,760
Speaker 1: shut down for like a month, I went and just

18
00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,720
Speaker 1: went to get my haircut like a normal person.

19
00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,880
Speaker 3: So so unfair, I should probably share.

20
00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,080
Speaker 4: I have a photo where I look like, I don't know,

21
00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,560
Speaker 4: I look like I grew up in a cave or

22
00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:04,360
Speaker 4: something or was living.

23
00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,280
Speaker 1: You couldn't get a haircut in New York.

24
00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:11,040
Speaker 4: Absolutely not for months, like I mean, from whatever it

25
00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,200
Speaker 4: was February, you know, end of February, early March, shutdown

26
00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,199
Speaker 4: day to June, maybe July.

27
00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,959
Speaker 1: So I mean, think, what would what would you look like?

28
00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,080
Speaker 1: Clay Travis, always very well quaffed, mister Clay, what would

29
00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,720
Speaker 1: you look like with no haircut for six months?

30
00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:27,160
Speaker 3: Dude?

31
00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,240
Speaker 1: Think about it? Oh, I probably looked like I did

32
00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,840
Speaker 1: in high school. That's why I thought I was going

33
00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,280
Speaker 1: to get ridiculed for my You know, my kids have

34
00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,840
Speaker 1: my high school yearbook photo as their backdrop to make

35
00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,400
Speaker 1: fun of me on their phones, like and Laura does

36
00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,399
Speaker 1: my wife like if you like their screensaver is my

37
00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,120
Speaker 1: senior class yearbook photo.

38
00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,960
Speaker 4: You You and my brother are the same year in

39
00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,800
Speaker 4: My older brother the same year in school.

40
00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:51,960
Speaker 3: And I remember this.

41
00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,920
Speaker 4: There was a time everybody was listening to Dave Matthews

42
00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,160
Speaker 4: playing their Hackey Sack, wearing their birken stocks and uh,

43
00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,400
Speaker 4: and they would they put.

44
00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,760
Speaker 3: Their hair behind their ears.

45
00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,520
Speaker 1: That's right. Super that was. That was a superstyle.

46
00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,200
Speaker 3: That was the like I'm preppy, I play soccer and

47
00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:10,840
Speaker 3: listen to Dave Matthews and.

48
00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like that was the look for a

49
00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,480
Speaker 1: while that we had to talk your hair behind the

50
00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,280
Speaker 1: ear and so I think it would look something like that.

51
00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,480
Speaker 1: But I still for people who lived in Red States,

52
00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,280
Speaker 1: what you guys dealt with in New York and California

53
00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,040
Speaker 1: is like finding out that someone was in a foreign

54
00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,320
Speaker 1: country because I we shut my gym buck. My gym

55
00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,400
Speaker 1: was back open, like by the first week of May.

56
00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,880
Speaker 1: Like they shut down at gym's for like six weeks,

57
00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,239
Speaker 1: which was stupid. But by May one ish in Tennessee,

58
00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,239
Speaker 1: if you lived in a normal place, your life was

59
00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,600
Speaker 1: basically back to normal. May one, twenty twenty, schools opened

60
00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,480
Speaker 1: back up in August full go. Now people still had

61
00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,480
Speaker 1: to wear masks. It was stupid, but it was. There

62
00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,960
Speaker 1: was very little. We COVID exists for like six weeks,

63
00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,720
Speaker 1: and then people were like, yeah, this is stupid, Like

64
00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:03,919
Speaker 1: let's kind of go back to normal.

65
00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:05,720
Speaker 3: New York City.

66
00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,880
Speaker 4: My friend in New York City, they had metrics for

67
00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,200
Speaker 4: reopening gyms and other things. And when we hit the

68
00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,200
Speaker 4: metrics after all the waiting, de Blasio, because he is

69
00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,679
Speaker 4: a vile communist and a little dictator at heart, just said, yeah,

70
00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,200
Speaker 4: I don't care, we're not opening them anyway.

71
00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:21,920
Speaker 3: So he set and he said.

72
00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,600
Speaker 1: You guys had to work out in masks, which is

73
00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,919
Speaker 1: still crazy to me to think about, Like in the gym,

74
00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,160
Speaker 1: that you had to have a mask on.

75
00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,160
Speaker 3: People would come up to you and yell at you.

76
00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:30,960
Speaker 3: On the treadmill.

77
00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,400
Speaker 4: If you were on a treadmill without a map, think

78
00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,120
Speaker 4: about that you had to run with your mask on.

79
00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,080
Speaker 3: It was the dumbest thing in the world.

80
00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,440
Speaker 4: And danger and along with this and danger so stupid.

81
00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,600
Speaker 4: Bad for you, by the way, you're all these fibers

82
00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:44,240
Speaker 4: and stuff you're in here.

83
00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:45,760
Speaker 3: It's horrible. Anyway.

84
00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,320
Speaker 4: I bring it up because that was when I learned

85
00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,280
Speaker 4: about TikTok, and I remember the first TikTok video. I'm

86
00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,320
Speaker 4: getting a little nostalgic about TikTok because it might be

87
00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,080
Speaker 4: rip TikTok here pretty soon thanks to the Supreme Court.

88
00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,760
Speaker 4: Uh well, actually not the Supreme Court. It's a law

89
00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,800
Speaker 4: that's been passed and now the Supreme words winging on it.

90
00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,600
Speaker 4: But it was a shuffle dance, which I tried a

91
00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,440
Speaker 4: little bit during COVID. I did not do very well

92
00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,760
Speaker 4: with that, so you know, do you know what I'm

93
00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,560
Speaker 4: talking about? That was one of the big things TikTok

94
00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,480
Speaker 4: went vital for in the early days, teaching people during

95
00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,200
Speaker 4: COVID how to do these little dance steps at home,

96
00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,159
Speaker 4: and I did.

97
00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,000
Speaker 1: Not go through this universe. We were just not that

98
00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:23,960
Speaker 1: at home that much.

99
00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,120
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, mister German cinephile over here, Hold

100
00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:28,880
Speaker 3: hold on.

101
00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,400
Speaker 1: You in your apartment by yourself, were learning how to

102
00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,440
Speaker 1: do dances. This is what you were doing in your

103
00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:35,000
Speaker 1: free time.

104
00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,720
Speaker 3: I was, you know, like I was trying to pick

105
00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,520
Speaker 3: up a new hobby. Don't worry about whether it was

106
00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,760
Speaker 3: dancing or not. The point is that was when I

107
00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:44,800
Speaker 3: first saw TikTok.

108
00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,080
Speaker 1: I can't imagine you. First of all, I told you

109
00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,360
Speaker 1: this when we first started doing the show in June

110
00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,760
Speaker 1: of twenty one. Sometime that summer. I was up in

111
00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:55,960
Speaker 1: New York and you were like, oh, you can come

112
00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,080
Speaker 1: see my apartment. And I walked in, and I was like,

113
00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,480
Speaker 1: I would have gone and absolutely insane if I lived

114
00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,680
Speaker 1: in a city and they walked down and I had

115
00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,200
Speaker 1: to stay in an apartment like you're in a high

116
00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,120
Speaker 1: rise apartment building. The only reason to live in New

117
00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,640
Speaker 1: York City, in my opinion, is to experience, outside of

118
00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,880
Speaker 1: your apartment, the life of New York City.

119
00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,400
Speaker 4: Well, this is why, this is why people decided. Some

120
00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,080
Speaker 4: people decided to move because they were so upsid. I mean,

121
00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,919
Speaker 4: New York City absent the use of the city is

122
00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,720
Speaker 4: it feels like a prison, you know, because you have

123
00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,240
Speaker 4: no you have no land, you have no outdoor space,

124
00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:33,000
Speaker 4: you have no freedom.

125
00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, it was particularly brutal.

126
00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,000
Speaker 4: I think it was worse in the I think the

127
00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,919
Speaker 4: lockdown was worse in New York City than it was

128
00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:38,919
Speaker 4: honestly anywhere.

129
00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,640
Speaker 1: Else in the entire I think that's probably true because

130
00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,360
Speaker 1: at least in La by and large, people had land,

131
00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,800
Speaker 1: Like there were a lot of crazy towns. But to

132
00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,040
Speaker 1: your point, you're basically in a high rise prison if

133
00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,880
Speaker 1: you can't leave your apartment and a lot of people

134
00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,520
Speaker 1: you don't even have you did not have outdoor air,

135
00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,560
Speaker 1: like you didn't have like a balcony where you could

136
00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,760
Speaker 1: even go outside and like get fresh air. Like it's crazy.

137
00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,000
Speaker 4: Yes, and uh and I couldn't even get a haircut

138
00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,000
Speaker 4: for months, So I managed to buy myself a pair

139
00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,880
Speaker 4: of like Crayola scissors off of Amazon and then just

140
00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,400
Speaker 4: sit there and try to cut my hair so it

141
00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,719
Speaker 4: wouldn't be so long as in my eyes anyway. Ah,

142
00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,440
Speaker 4: Memories memories TikTok. That's how I learned about it. And

143
00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,520
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden you get there's some there's

144
00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:16,640
Speaker 4: some cool content on there.

145
00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:17,000
Speaker 3: I'll tell you.

146
00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,280
Speaker 4: There's this guy who takes a lot of you you've

147
00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,040
Speaker 4: probably if you haven't seen this. I think his name

148
00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,240
Speaker 4: is Donnie Dust and he takes like tools and someone

149
00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,279
Speaker 4: will say, can you make a tomahawk with you know,

150
00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,000
Speaker 4: a stick in a rock? And he just does it

151
00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,880
Speaker 4: right in front of you. It's amazing. There's some cool

152
00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:32,520
Speaker 4: stuff on there.

153
00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,400
Speaker 1: Problem is it's owned by China and it's a Chinese

154
00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,280
Speaker 1: spying app or whatever.

155
00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,680
Speaker 3: Right, that's the problem. That's why everyone's also freaked out

156
00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:40,039
Speaker 3: about this.

157
00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,039
Speaker 4: So Supreme Court looks like they're going to uphold the

158
00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,440
Speaker 4: law after oral arguments this morning, after both Republicans and

159
00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,880
Speaker 4: Democrats had decided that there was a national security risk

160
00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,960
Speaker 4: from TikTok, and so they passed.

161
00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,159
Speaker 3: This law that said it has to be sold or will.

162
00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,880
Speaker 4: Be basically shut down in the United States. So really

163
00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,600
Speaker 4: it seems like they got to find a buyer for it. Here, Clay, So,

164
00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,960
Speaker 4: do you know anybody we got to keep this thing alive.

165
00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,360
Speaker 4: There is so much great cooking content and actually a

166
00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,360
Speaker 4: lot of good fitness content on TikTok as well.

167
00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:13,920
Speaker 3: I'll tell you.

168
00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,520
Speaker 4: I know everyone just thinks that they're trying to steal

169
00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,440
Speaker 4: all your data for China, but at least you can

170
00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:18,600
Speaker 4: get abs in the process.

171
00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,640
Speaker 1: I so here's a Ali just texted us producer Ali

172
00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,600
Speaker 1: that Elon should buy it. So here is the challenge

173
00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,080
Speaker 1: as I see it. And we had an actual discussion

174
00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,480
Speaker 1: about this yesterday because I don't think this is an

175
00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,800
Speaker 1: easy answer. You believe that it should basically exist as

176
00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,120
Speaker 1: is right, is a rough way of describing your position.

177
00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,000
Speaker 1: My position is I actually do not believe that China

178
00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,320
Speaker 1: should be able to own this company, which I believe

179
00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,960
Speaker 1: is more powerful as a media entity than the New

180
00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,320
Speaker 1: York Times is, than the Washington Post is, than Fox

181
00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,559
Speaker 1: News is, than the Wall Street Journal is what media

182
00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,480
Speaker 1: outlet you enjoy consuming. And we would never allow the

183
00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,080
Speaker 1: four things that I just ticked through to be owned

184
00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,080
Speaker 1: by a foreigner because of the impact that it could have.

185
00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,440
Speaker 1: So I think, and you were just kind of hitting

186
00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,040
Speaker 1: at this, I think that TikTok should be forced to

187
00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,920
Speaker 1: divest itself of Chinese ownership of its US based assets.

188
00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,040
Speaker 1: And then the question beyond that becomes okay, who would

189
00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,320
Speaker 1: buy it? And I want an Elon Musk like figure

190
00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,440
Speaker 1: to buy TikTok because all I want them to do

191
00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,080
Speaker 1: is do the same thing that now Facebook says it's

192
00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,520
Speaker 1: doing and that Twitter does, which is just have a

193
00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,199
Speaker 1: content neutral policy in place where the algorithm doesn't favor

194
00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,760
Speaker 1: anything in particular of a political bent and everybody gets

195
00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,080
Speaker 1: a fair playing field. That's my ideal world for where

196
00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,800
Speaker 1: we could go with TikTok. Now here's the challenge. The

197
00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,560
Speaker 1: value of TikTok. I would think buck as it inches

198
00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,680
Speaker 1: closer to this banning date, which is what like January

199
00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,200
Speaker 1: ninethe what's the day when it would And for people

200
00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,439
Speaker 1: who are like, what does a band look like? My

201
00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,920
Speaker 1: understanding and correct me if I'm wrong on this is

202
00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,240
Speaker 1: basically the app would no longer be able to update,

203
00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:15,319
Speaker 1: and therefore it eventually becomes unusable on iPhones or androids

204
00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:20,040
Speaker 1: or whatever else because without being able to update, bugs takeover,

205
00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,439
Speaker 1: it becomes less efficient all those things.

206
00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,960
Speaker 4: Yes, and I mean TikTok It's January nineteenth is the date.

207
00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:31,320
Speaker 4: And it's a big platform. I mean it claims to

208
00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,640
Speaker 4: have a billion monthly active users globally and claims to

209
00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,280
Speaker 4: have one hundred and fifty million monthly active users in

210
00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,160
Speaker 4: the United States. That seems I mean, I don't see

211
00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,840
Speaker 4: how that's possible. Considering that would mean that half the

212
00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,360
Speaker 4: country is basically on using TikTok at least once a month.

213
00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,080
Speaker 4: That number strikes me as not really possible. But this

214
00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,280
Speaker 4: is the number that they This is the number that

215
00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,120
Speaker 4: they put out there officially. I mean, go google it,

216
00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,079
Speaker 4: you'll find you'll find that that's what they say. I

217
00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,000
Speaker 4: think it's interesting because from one thing, it's because China

218
00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,319
Speaker 4: owns this. If this was owned by Sweden or the UK,

219
00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,280
Speaker 4: or you know, France or something, I don't think that

220
00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:11,840
Speaker 4: there would.

221
00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:12,360
Speaker 3: Be this issue.

222
00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,360
Speaker 1: So we clearly put China in a different category of

223
00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:22,920
Speaker 1: national security concern. And I've always thought that the spying

224
00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,320
Speaker 1: components of this, or the ability to spy with this,

225
00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,199
Speaker 1: is a little bit overblown, considering that TikTok is actually

226
00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,240
Speaker 1: the TikTok that we use is based in the US

227
00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:32,800
Speaker 1: and the servers are based in the US.

228
00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,880
Speaker 4: And people say, well, they could route it all back

229
00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,160
Speaker 4: to China. Yeah, Well, the Chinese. The Chinese can hack

230
00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,679
Speaker 4: into a lot of things, and they have hacked into

231
00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,320
Speaker 4: a lot of things anyway, but here we have a

232
00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:46,280
Speaker 4: major social media platform that seems ripe for the taking

233
00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,880
Speaker 4: from somebody with very deep pockets, and I would just

234
00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,760
Speaker 4: love for it to be This is kind.

235
00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:52,720
Speaker 3: Of my takeaway on it, Klay.

236
00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,920
Speaker 4: I would love for this to be an opportunity to

237
00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,720
Speaker 4: once again push the Internet more toward freedom insanity, which

238
00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,120
Speaker 4: is what we've seen with X and now somewhat with Facebook.

239
00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,240
Speaker 4: I would say this too on the Facebook part of this,

240
00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,560
Speaker 4: which is huge as you all know that Facebook is

241
00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,280
Speaker 4: moving away from Clay said.

242
00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,480
Speaker 3: No more DEI programs.

243
00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:12,240
Speaker 5: Yep.

244
00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,880
Speaker 4: Now they're going to be far more friendly to conservatives

245
00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,560
Speaker 4: into politics and the free speech stuff.

246
00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,160
Speaker 3: But is it.

247
00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,200
Speaker 4: Opportunistic by Zuckerberg? Yeah, of course, But is it still

248
00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,160
Speaker 4: the direction I want Zuckerberg going?

249
00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,400
Speaker 1: And yes, So do you think Zuckerberg trump if you

250
00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,360
Speaker 1: had to bet.

251
00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:35,800
Speaker 3: That's so interesting? Yes, I think. But I don't think

252
00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,280
Speaker 3: he thinks of himself as a Republican.

253
00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,000
Speaker 4: I just think I think he recognizes Kamalo's a moron,

254
00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,800
Speaker 4: and that the whole Democrat campaign was a lie that died,

255
00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,760
Speaker 4: and the whole thing was a lie, and that Kamala's

256
00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,199
Speaker 4: competent was a lie, and I think a lot of

257
00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,560
Speaker 4: the tech bros are in that category. They're not ideologically

258
00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,520
Speaker 4: we'd even get into some of this on some of

259
00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,640
Speaker 4: the immigration stuff. There's some disputes on the right. Maybe

260
00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,080
Speaker 4: we'll talk more about that another time. A lot of

261
00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,319
Speaker 4: the tech bros are not ideologically right wing, but they

262
00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:07,080
Speaker 4: are ideologically results in common sense aligned, and that meant

263
00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,280
Speaker 4: a rejection of the Democrats in this election.

264
00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,160
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think Bezos and Zuckerberg, in

265
00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,200
Speaker 1: their own private voting actually both voted Trump. I really do.

266
00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,880
Speaker 1: And by the way, on TikTok, what percentage of our

267
00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,480
Speaker 1: audience that is listening to us right now? You talked

268
00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,960
Speaker 1: about the sheer number that they claim. What percentage of

269
00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,600
Speaker 1: this audience has a TikTok account? I would actually love

270
00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,280
Speaker 1: to hear from people if you are active on TikTok

271
00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,240
Speaker 1: and listening to us, what do you think should happen?

272
00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,200
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure we will get a single call,

273
00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,199
Speaker 1: by the way, from anybody listening to us is I'm

274
00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,880
Speaker 1: not sure we'll get a single call from anyone he

275
00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:42,959
Speaker 1: uses TikTok frequently.

276
00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,400
Speaker 3: I could be completely wrong.

277
00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,960
Speaker 1: But I would love to hear from people if TikTok

278
00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,839
Speaker 1: is your preferred social media site because eight hundred and

279
00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,800
Speaker 1: two eight two two eight a two, what do you

280
00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,920
Speaker 1: think as a user should happen here? And also do

281
00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,760
Speaker 1: you use it? Because one of the things we think

282
00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,240
Speaker 1: about a lot on this show is how do we

283
00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:07,040
Speaker 1: reach audiences in so many different places because we're in

284
00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,720
Speaker 1: such a unique world now old school. When Rush started

285
00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,319
Speaker 1: this show, he built a radio universe. There was no podcasting,

286
00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,319
Speaker 1: there was no video on demand that you could watch

287
00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,160
Speaker 1: on YouTube of sit down interviews. It was a very

288
00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,920
Speaker 1: different media environment. So we're trying to be everywhere and

289
00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm just curious how many people that are listening to

290
00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,839
Speaker 1: us right now TikTok is your preferred social media platform

291
00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,880
Speaker 1: and what do you think should happen? Because the politics

292
00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,760
Speaker 1: on this book are actually pretty fascinating. Trump is against

293
00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,520
Speaker 1: a band so and Biden is trying to ban it.

294
00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:46,080
Speaker 1: So I do think this doesn't line itself up naturally

295
00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,880
Speaker 1: with Republicans believe X and Democrats believe why as it

296
00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,480
Speaker 1: pertains to what should happen for TikTok, which is why

297
00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,240
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the most interesting stories out

298
00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,640
Speaker 1: there right now.

299
00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,319
Speaker 2: Sundays with Clay and bus.

300
00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,280
Speaker 1: We have got a lot of reaction actually from you

301
00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:07,600
Speaker 1: guys out there on TikTok and Tyrrell in New Mexico.

302
00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,360
Speaker 1: You are a big time TikTok user. What do you

303
00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:12,280
Speaker 1: think should happen?

304
00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,520
Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing. I get. The whole like being

305
00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,320
Speaker 5: afraid China is you know, spye ons and stuff. But

306
00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,000
Speaker 5: like you said, they do that all the time. Anyways.

307
00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,120
Speaker 5: I mean, they've even messed with our waste water plants

308
00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,160
Speaker 5: and we were able to stop that. That was actually

309
00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:34,000
Speaker 5: in an Albuquerque that that happened. So and so, by

310
00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,120
Speaker 5: the way, don't don't set your waste water plants stuff

311
00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,920
Speaker 5: up to the internet. But uh so they're able to

312
00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,160
Speaker 5: do that, so it doesn't matter. It's TikTok. I look,

313
00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,640
Speaker 5: I look at like you said, dance videos and stuff.

314
00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,040
Speaker 5: But me so, I'm a machinist by trade, and I've

315
00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,960
Speaker 5: actually learned a lot of tricks, machinist tricks on TikTok

316
00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,960
Speaker 5: because I deal with a lot older CNC machines and

317
00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,280
Speaker 5: they're no longer in the States, most of them, but

318
00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,560
Speaker 5: I can find overseas video it was on TikTok about

319
00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:02,320
Speaker 5: these machines.

320
00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:04,680
Speaker 3: I'm a uturo.

321
00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,440
Speaker 1: I mean I have learned my reverse seer technique and

322
00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,600
Speaker 1: my ability to perfectly season a steak thanks to TikTok.

323
00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,080
Speaker 1: Is I'm like Emerald Leagasi level at this point.

324
00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,800
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be immodest, but I mean I

325
00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,040
Speaker 4: make a really mean steak thanks to TikTok.

326
00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,840
Speaker 1: Not to mention you're incredible dancer now thanks to TikTok. Wow,

327
00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,520
Speaker 1: you know you know, just I can't stop thinking about

328
00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:32,360
Speaker 1: you in that apartment by yourself, dancing TikTok dance moves

329
00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,560
Speaker 1: like I would give anything their feet.

330
00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,000
Speaker 3: I get my heart rate.

331
00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,720
Speaker 1: Are their videos of you doing dance moves to TikTok?

332
00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,680
Speaker 1: Does this exist anywhere? Is there any evidence? I can't

333
00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,160
Speaker 1: believe you admitted to this, Like, I can't stop laughing

334
00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,720
Speaker 1: about you just doing step. There's like step aerobics. You

335
00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,600
Speaker 1: might as well have a thigh baster getting loose on

336
00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:57,240
Speaker 1: your couch. You would choose and summers. I just I can't.

337
00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:02,800
Speaker 1: I can't stop laughing about this. All right, No one

338
00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,040
Speaker 1: wants to go through the hassle of changing their cell

339
00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,200
Speaker 1: phone service provider.

340
00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,280
Speaker 2: But where the dance?

341
00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,080
Speaker 1: What's the point of learning?

342
00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:11,920
Speaker 3: I'm doing a.

343
00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,800
Speaker 2: Read Stop Sunday drop with clean Buck.

344
00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, doing the solo thing this weekend.

345
00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,200
Speaker 4: Carrie is going to visit family, and because I'm sick,

346
00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,480
Speaker 4: I have the reprieve of, you know, sitting around and

347
00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,240
Speaker 4: blowing my nose and drinking tea for a couple of

348
00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,360
Speaker 4: days here Ginger my dog. You guys all know that

349
00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:38,240
Speaker 4: also with the in laws. And so, uh, I'm wondering

350
00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,240
Speaker 4: what it is that you plan on doing this weekend?

351
00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:41,640
Speaker 2: Football?

352
00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,800
Speaker 3: What is it when you're just football all weekend?

353
00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,360
Speaker 1: It's it's playoff season. So I'm going to watch the

354
00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,400
Speaker 1: Ohio State Texas game tonight and then I'm watching all

355
00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,960
Speaker 1: six games on the weekend. I meant to tell you

356
00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,920
Speaker 1: haven't seen Gladiator too yet? Right?

357
00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:56,880
Speaker 3: No, how was it?

358
00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,000
Speaker 1: It was okay? I would give it a solid I mean,

359
00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,680
Speaker 1: and if you just Gladiator one is a ten, right.

360
00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,320
Speaker 1: I agreed with that, Clay, and I I think you

361
00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,680
Speaker 1: are about two letter grades nicer about movies in general

362
00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,840
Speaker 1: than I am. You're nicer about movie reviews. I would

363
00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,720
Speaker 1: give it a seven. So it would have if it

364
00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,360
Speaker 1: stood alone as a movie and Gladiator one had never occurred,

365
00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,520
Speaker 1: it would be seen. I think as better even than

366
00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,080
Speaker 1: it is because it's being judged in the context of

367
00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,520
Speaker 1: the original Gladiator. I would give it a solid seven

368
00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,919
Speaker 1: out of ten worth going to see. I meant to

369
00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,399
Speaker 1: give my review. I think this was like right around

370
00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,960
Speaker 1: Christmas that I went to go see the movie. I

371
00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,879
Speaker 1: don't know how many other people went out and saw it,

372
00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,520
Speaker 1: but I would say a solid seven out of ten

373
00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,919
Speaker 1: worth going to see. I don't even know if it's

374
00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,440
Speaker 1: still on in the theater or if you can now

375
00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,040
Speaker 1: get it and stream it. It would definitely be worth

376
00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:49,960
Speaker 1: streaming at home.

377
00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,040
Speaker 4: I haven't been to a movie alone in a very

378
00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,040
Speaker 4: long I think I've gone once or twice before when

379
00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,480
Speaker 4: I really wanted to see a movie by myself. I

380
00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,520
Speaker 4: saw The Passion of the Christ alone. That's I think

381
00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,199
Speaker 4: the only movie that I've ever seen in theater. And

382
00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,240
Speaker 4: he saw Mel Gibson's making the rounds these days he

383
00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,480
Speaker 4: was on The Rogan Show.

384
00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,639
Speaker 3: But I might go see nos Faratu.

385
00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,720
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get myself up to the Have you

386
00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,480
Speaker 4: guys seen this the remake of the original nos Faratu?

387
00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,880
Speaker 1: Have you seen the original? I have not seen the original.

388
00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm a big bram Stokers. Dracula both movie and book fan.

389
00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,040
Speaker 1: But I hear this movie. I don't know if you

390
00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,720
Speaker 1: read read the reviews. It's a little uh dark and

391
00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,120
Speaker 1: funky stuff going on. Bad review Oh, producer Ali says

392
00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:31,840
Speaker 1: bad reviews.

393
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:32,560
Speaker 2: I thought the.

394
00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,399
Speaker 1: Reviews are actually pretty good. The original Nose Faratu. I

395
00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,760
Speaker 1: took a German film course and I wrote a paper

396
00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,000
Speaker 1: on the original Nose Faratu movies.

397
00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,000
Speaker 4: That's like the biggest gut course I've ever heard of.

398
00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,520
Speaker 4: I took a German film course in college.

399
00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:52,440
Speaker 1: I also slay Russian Russian cinema Russian cinema courses. Totalitarian

400
00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,919
Speaker 1: Films was actually really triumph the Wills like I watched

401
00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:00,560
Speaker 1: all those movies actually really worth watching. The original notes Faratu,

402
00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:05,280
Speaker 1: which is the original Dracula movie nineteen twenty two. I

403
00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,080
Speaker 1: think it's a silent film classic. I wish I got

404
00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:09,440
Speaker 1: to watch it. I wish I could have hug out

405
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,720
Speaker 1: with Clay in German film class in college.

406
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,320
Speaker 2: Sunday Sizzle with Clay and Fuss.

407
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,840
Speaker 3: You got some talkbacks as well.

408
00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,919
Speaker 4: Speaking of that, iHeart app. There's a little microphone on it.

409
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,800
Speaker 4: You press it, it allows you to do a talkback,

410
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 4: which is like a voicemail.

411
00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 3: Do you remember having an answering machine Clay back in

412
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:28,120
Speaker 3: the day.

413
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, machine, it was fun. You'd come home, you

414
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,840
Speaker 1: didn't have the ability to get reached, and that thing's

415
00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,520
Speaker 1: blinking and you're like, oh, man, who tried to call me?

416
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:37,359
Speaker 1: What might be there?

417
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you'd have to always try to sound a

418
00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 3: little clear, like, hey, you've reached five five five five five.

419
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,440
Speaker 4: You know, and yeah, you know what I'm talking about,

420
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,760
Speaker 4: you answer machine. People know what I'm talking about.

421
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 1: Let's get talkback here from George, a listener out of

422
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 1: Denver Freedom ninety three seven k KDFD.

423
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 3: What's going on, George?

424
00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,440
Speaker 6: I wanted to weigh in on what Buck is talking

425
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 6: about the creations this year. What I'm gonna do is

426
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 6: when I normally only leave the lights on all night

427
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 6: on Christmas Eve, but this year I'm gonna leave the

428
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 6: lights on all night for inauguration night for Trump. It's

429
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 6: gonna be awesome.

430
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 1: Oh, that's actually cool. You're talking about when you need

431
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 1: to bring down your lights, and that's a cool idea

432
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,120
Speaker 1: to leave them up until the twentieth of January when

433
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,479
Speaker 1: Trump is inaugurated. As a celebration. I kind of respect

434
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,159
Speaker 1: that you and I will be up in DC starting

435
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:28,640
Speaker 1: next week.

436
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 4: I also think, Clay, it's really nice, you know, for

437
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 4: you going int this weekend to know that there are

438
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 4: those in this audience who are so devoted to Clay

439
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 4: and all things Clay Travis, that they're willing to back

440
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,919
Speaker 4: you up on your absolute worst takes, no matter what

441
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,880
Speaker 4: your take is, no matter how bad it is. There

442
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 4: are those in this audience who will stand in the flames.

443
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 4: They'll do anything too. And here is podcast listener Jill

444
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,439
Speaker 4: and Ohio on your pizza taste?

445
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:54,920
Speaker 3: Play it?

446
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 7: What's up, Clay and Buck? This is Jill in Ohio

447
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 7: and I say absolutely one hundred percent jalapeno, mushroom, maybe

448
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 7: even some banana peppers and the kicker.

449
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 5: A little Anchovies best pizza ever.

450
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 1: Say, First of all, I appreciate Jill having my back. Buck,

451
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: I got obliterated for my true, honest opinion the best

452
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: possible pizza out there, mushroom and jalapeno on top. Not

453
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: saying everybody's gonna love it, I'm saying it's the best

454
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 1: in my Anchovies though, do we've never had Anchoby pizza. Honestly,

455
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of seafood, so I probably would

456
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 1: like it. I had a toun to steak last night.

457
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 1: It was fabulous.