1 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: From Meat Eaters World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This 2 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: is Cow's Week in Review with Ryan Cow Klaan. Here's 3 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: cal A school district in the northern California town of 4 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: El Dorado Hills issued a shelter in place order this 5 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: week after officials received a report of two mountain lions 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: wandering around near the campus of Oak Ridge High School. 7 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: Students stayed in their classrooms and law enforcement searched the 8 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: area on the ground and via a helicopter. The intrepid 9 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: journalists at the local media station KCR were also on 10 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: the scene. They published an exclusive photo that they said 11 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: depicted one of the mountain lions walking near the school, 12 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: but they soon realized that they'd been had fooled, deceived 13 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: goosey let us string. According to a message sent by 14 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: the school district to parents and forwarded to me by 15 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: a listener named Kevin, the picture was a fake quote. Unfortunately, 16 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: an Oakridge student found a fake picture of a mountain 17 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: lion on the Internet and showed it to the KCRA reporters. 18 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: KCRA ran with the story without verifying it. We have 19 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: examined the photo and it is an obvious fake. We 20 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: apologize if this is confusing and upsetting. This student's name 21 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: has not been released, but the school says he admitted 22 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: to his mistake. My theory it was no mistake at all, 23 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: great prank by whoever this kid was. The mistake was 24 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: made by the news station. Whatever the scenario, however it 25 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: plays out, he'll be the hero at the ten year reunion. 26 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: Good ONNYA. This week We've got bears, wildlife, crime, legislation, 27 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: and so much more. But first I'm going to tell 28 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: you about my week. And my week well, I just 29 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: don't even know where to start. Just got back from 30 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: about three weeks in the great State of Wyoming. Scenery 31 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: was awesome, full of potential, but also just chock full 32 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: of hunters and just like the trail density and supposed 33 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: backcountry areas was dense, you know. Unfortunately, my big deer 34 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: hunt that I was quite secretly getting really excited about 35 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: six years of applying two thousand dollars deer tag was 36 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: mostly spent trying to just get away from people and 37 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: not really deer hunting. I did pick up several balloons, 38 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: though some bottles, a couple of cans, and I did 39 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: come up with this idea for you know, Wyoming fishing game. 40 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: Since you guys are already into laws that restrict Americans 41 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: from enjoying wilderness areas, I think you would also be 42 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: interested in adding this regulation to your books. An ammunition restriction, 43 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: just like if you're a waterfowl hunter in certain Southern 44 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: states you can only bring a limited number of shotgun 45 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: shells onto a state wildlife management area, or you know, 46 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: I believe some of the federal refuges in California you 47 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: can only have so many shells with you too. I 48 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: think some of the behavior I witnessed would be reduced 49 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: if Wyoming onerously imposed a maximum allowable amount of rifle 50 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: ammunition in possession while big game hunting regulation. If you're 51 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: having trouble reading between the lines, I heard a lot 52 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: of shooting, not a lot of single shots over the 53 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: eight days I hunted. Had folks shoot in my general direction, 54 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: not like you know, like directly in the path of 55 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: the bullet, but just in a very loud way. Had 56 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: folks shoot over the top of my head. On top 57 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: of that, there was a lot of cell phone service 58 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: on top of the mountains, which just sucks. Unfortunately, this 59 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: hunt just was not my cup of tea Cowboy state. 60 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: I love hunting mule deer, but not when I worry 61 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: about the other people in the woods more than the 62 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: This was a general unit hunt, so even though it 63 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: took me, a non resident, a lot of time and 64 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: money to draw, it was absolutely chock full of resident hunters. 65 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: I had a lot of time to talk to other hunters, 66 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: you know, because there's just a lot of people in 67 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: the woods. All of the resident folks I spoke to 68 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: said that this is the most pressure they'd ever experienced 69 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: in that unit. So bad timing on my part. I 70 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: went into this hunt with more information than I typically 71 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: ever have for a new area. I felt really good 72 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: about my plans, but my big screw up where I 73 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,119 Speaker 1: failed but you can succeed. Point that you should listen 74 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: to is even though I had plans ABCDEFG, they were 75 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: all kind of in the general zone right, like in 76 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: one general area. And again, unfortunately, like everybody else and 77 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: their dog decided that that was the general area that 78 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: they needed to be into. So what I should have done, 79 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: in hindsight is have a plan B that was in 80 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: just like a total relocation, like a totally different area, 81 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: because that's just like what it takes sometimes and and 82 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: I didn't have that, and just so you can have 83 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: like a little bit of a peak behind the curtain. 84 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: One of the reasons that I really didn't have that 85 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: is when you're applying for film permits, because we filmed 86 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: this old old dirt myth and I, you got to 87 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: be pretty specific as to your location. So we didn't 88 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: permit like a totally different area as a plan B 89 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: and honestly didn't think that we needed to. And so, 90 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, technically, like we didn't need to, Like I 91 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: found a BGB, which is a Doug Durham term, a 92 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: big giant buck, big giant, huge mule deer right there 93 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: on public land, and so I had that opportunity, right, 94 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: So technically it was a success. I would just never 95 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: pay to have that type of experience, you know, like eugh. 96 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: But if you want to talk about experiences too, like 97 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: I got a bunch of killer exercise, lots of fresh air, 98 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: lots of bugling bowls around, lots of time outside, probably 99 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: drop fifteen pounds that I probably needed to lose, got 100 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: my hiking legs underneath me. So lots of positive things 101 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: don't dwell on the negative. Right. Also, if you want 102 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: to check out some other stuff you want to be 103 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: in the know, which I'm sure you do because you're 104 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: listening to this here podcast. 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On 112 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: top of that, by the time you listen to this, 113 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: it will be white Tail Week, which is like an 114 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: annual kind of sale that we do a lots of 115 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: technical awesome hunting clothing, including all the brand new white 116 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: Tail lineup that we're releasing, will be out. Technically it 117 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: will not be on sale, but the way this promotional period, 118 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 1: if you will, as structured kind of the more you spend, 119 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: the greater your discount will be. So good time to 120 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: stock up because you will get significant savings over at 121 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: the meat eater dot com first light dot com check 122 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: it out awesome stuff. Moving on to the bear Shooting Desk, 123 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: a twelve year old boy in Wisconsin shot and killed 124 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: a black bear that was attacking his father during a 125 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: bear hunt. Earlier this month, forty three year old Ryan 126 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: Byerman was hunting with his son Owen when the boy 127 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: shot and wounded a bear. The pair waited about twenty 128 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: minutes before leaving their stand to search for it with 129 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: the help of the tracking dog. Ryan was searching through 130 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: a thicket when he heard the dog yelp and saw 131 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: it run past him in the other direction. That's never 132 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: a good sign, and moments later, the wounded bear charged 133 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: from only about six feet away. Ryan fired eight shots 134 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: from his nineteen eleven handgun, but none of them found 135 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: their mark. The two hundred pound bruin was soon on 136 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: top of him, and his efforts to hit the bear 137 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: with the gun were as ineffective as his marksmanship. The 138 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: bear was biting his head, face and arms, and it 139 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: wasn't looking good for old Ryan. Fortunately, his son was 140 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: a better shot than he was. Even though the bear 141 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: was on top of Ryan, Owen angled himself so that 142 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: he wouldn't hit his father and fired one shot from 143 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: his rifle. The bullet found its mark and Ryan was 144 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: able to push the bear off of him. A neighbor 145 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: drove the man to the hospital, and he's expected to 146 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: make a full recovery after getting twenty three stitches on 147 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: his cheek. I know I'm preaching to the choir here, 148 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: but it's worth repeating. If you shoot at an animal 149 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: and it runs into the woods, wait a few minutes 150 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: before trying to find it. For a predator like a 151 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: black bear, give it an hour at least. I'm not 152 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: sure where Owen hit the bear on his first shot, 153 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: but it's pretty likely that the bear would have died 154 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: how they waited a bit longer. Instead, they stumbled upon 155 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: an angry, wounded bear that was just waiting for a 156 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: chance to get some revenge. If it hadn't been for 157 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: the quick action of a twelve year old, the story 158 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: could have been a lot worse. On top of that, 159 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: I see more and more people packing pistols in the woods, 160 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: including folks here on the Meat Eater Crew. You got 161 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: to practice with them. You got to practice over and 162 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: over and over again. Goofy stuff that makes you feel 163 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: like a nerd on TV, right, like getting that firearm 164 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: out of the holster. If you're not willing to do this, 165 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: carry bear spray I carried both. Bear spray is great 166 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: unless you're in a tent. Right, you're gonna hit what 167 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: you're ramming at with bear spray, but you gotta practice 168 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: deploying that as well. Now, this wasn't the only bear 169 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: shooting that made the news last week. Up in Iceland, 170 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: a police sniper shot and killed the only polar bear 171 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: to be spotted on the island since twenty sixteen. Authorities 172 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: were alerted that the bear had appeared in the northwestern 173 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: tip of Iceland, and when they arrived, it was rummaging 174 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: through their trash near someone's home. The elderly homeowner had 175 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: locked herself on the second floor as the bear helped 176 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 1: itself to whatever it could find in her trash. There 177 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: are no polar bears in Iceland, and it's unclear how 178 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: this one ended up there. Officials say the swim from 179 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: Greenland is too far even for the water loving bruins, 180 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: so they think it hitched a ride on an iceberg 181 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: to make the two hundred mile trip, much like Rudolph 182 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: in that strange stop motion movie from nineteen sixty four 183 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: that we all watched. Anyway, some Icelanders wondered why officials 184 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: couldn't tranquilize the bear and send it back where it 185 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: came from. Polar bears had become a bit of a 186 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: mascot for the negative impacts of climate change. In the US, 187 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: Fish and Wildlife Service considers them a threatened species, but 188 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: Icelandic Wildlife officials said the operation would be too dangerous 189 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: and they doubted whether Greenland would agree to take their 190 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: bear back. Polar bears are a great mascot, whether a 191 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: climate change activist or a Coca Cola salesman, but the 192 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: cartoon versions are quite a bit less threatening than the 193 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: real thing, and it turns out most people aren't comfortable 194 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: with a in this case, four hundred pound predator rummaging 195 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: through their trash. Thanks to Josh Marian for sending us 196 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: that story. Moving on to the crime desk, former presidential 197 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: candidate Robert Kennedy Junior confirmed earlier this month that he 198 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: is being investigated for cutting off a whale's head and 199 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: tying it to the roof of his minivan. This isn't 200 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: a news story, but it's gained traction in recent months 201 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: giving the high profiled nature of RFK Junior's candidacy. The 202 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: story first appeared in Town and Country magazine All the 203 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: Way back in twenty twelve. It was related by rfk's daughter, Kick, 204 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: who told the story as an example of her father's 205 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: eccentric environmentalism. According to Kick, RFK heard that a whale 206 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: had washed up on the beach of Cape Cod so 207 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: he ran down with a chainsaw and cut off the 208 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: whale's head. Kick said her father liked to study animal 209 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: skulls and skeletons, so he took the head, tied it 210 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: to the roof of his minivan with bungee cords, and 211 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: drove it five hours back to his home in Mount Kisco, 212 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: New York. Kick said, quote, every time we accelerated on 213 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: the highway, whale juice would pour into the windows of 214 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: the car, and it was the rankest thing on the planet. 215 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: We all had plastic bags over our heads with mouth 216 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: holes cut out, and people on the highway were giving 217 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: us the finger, but that was just normal day to 218 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: day stuff for us. No one cared when Kick told 219 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: this story in twenty twelve, but now everyone is big. 220 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: Matt the Center for Biological Diversity demanded that the fed's 221 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: open an investigation, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration 222 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: confirmed to the hill that they had done, so it's 223 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: unclear what laws RFK may have broken or if the 224 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: statute of limitations has run out since his incident appears 225 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: to have taken place at least thirty years ago. Two 226 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: men in Puerto Rico have been sentenced to jail time 227 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: fines in probation for trying to build a resort on 228 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: a protected wetland the Department of Justice and now it's 229 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: the last week that a fifty one year old fellow 230 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: named Raphael Carbio Diaz had destroyed, removed, and filled mangrove 231 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: wetland areas within and around the Jobos Bay National Estuary 232 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: in Research Reserve in Los Marias, Puerto Rico. He didn't 233 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: have a permit to do the work in the reserve, 234 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: but that didn't stop this entrepreneur from chasing his dreams. 235 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: He filled the area with quarry material, gated the area, 236 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: placed at least six mobile housing units on the property, 237 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: and added a pool. He then named the property Cacique Resort, 238 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: which means Chief or Boss resort, and rented the units 239 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: online as short term vacation properties. These mangrove wetlands are 240 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: critical to local infrastructure, economies and ecosystems because they can 241 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: limit damage from flooding and storms, reduce pollution, and provide 242 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: habitat for numerous marine and endangered species. This particular reserve 243 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: was designated in nineteen eighty one in his home to 244 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: the endangered brown pelican, peregrine falcon, hawksbill turtle, and West 245 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: Indian manatee. Carbio Diaz since to twelve months in jail, 246 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: one year of supervised release, and a four thousand dollars fine. 247 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: His partner in the property, manager, Nathaniel Hernandez Claudio, was 248 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: also sentenced to a twelve month probation for his role 249 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: in filling the property. A Michigan man is being accused 250 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: of killing nine deer with the crossbow and leaving them 251 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: to waste in and around the town of Cody, Wyoming. 252 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: Twenty year old Joshua T. Wheelhouer is accused of killing 253 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: eight of the deer in a single night in late August. 254 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: He killed mule deer, bucks, does, and fawns without a 255 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: license and failed to harvest any meat. He came back 256 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: and killed another dough about a week later. When he 257 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: tried to do it again in September, game wardens caught him. 258 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: He fled on foot and escape and then, according to 259 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: local prosecutors, posted on Facebook, catch me if you can. 260 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: Wheel Hower eventually turned himself in, but his remorse came 261 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: too late. It's being charged with eighteen misdemeanors, including nine 262 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: counts of taking game animals without a hunting license and 263 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: nine counts of wanton destruction of big game animals. His 264 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: bond was set at thirty six thousand dollars, or four 265 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: thousand dollars for each deer he killed. You can read 266 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: more details in an article over at the Meat. I 267 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: don't think this story is over. It's unclear why Wheelhower 268 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: was in cody or why he suddenly decided to go 269 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: on a deer killing spree. Producer Jordan Siller's track down 270 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: his Instagram count, which has over twenty one thousand followers 271 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: and shows Wheelhower traveling the world and camping with friends. 272 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: Anyone can turn to a life of crime, but it 273 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: seems like there's more going on here than meets the eye. 274 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: We reached out to Wheelhower to get a comment, but 275 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: have not heard back. Moving overseas to North Korea, government 276 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: officials are warning about a spike in illegal hunting and foraging, 277 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: and vowing to crack down on the perpetrators. Daily NK 278 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: reports that the Ministry of Social Security has sent orders 279 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: to all provincial police bureaus to watch out for residents 280 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: poaching animals, illegally foraging and exporting plants and herbs to 281 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: black markets in China. Quote the Ministry of Social Security 282 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: considers these illegal acts be contrary to the state's policy 283 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: of turning all the country's mountains into rich havens of 284 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: natural resources. The Ministry intends to protect the state's resources 285 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: by severely punishing those who make illegal use of forest resources. 286 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: In one incident, a shopkeeper who had a perit collect 287 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: one type of plant was found to be collecting other 288 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: types of plants and setting traps for animals. I think 289 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: this is the first time North Korea has appeared on 290 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: the crime desk, and I don't pretend to know what 291 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: goes on over there. Now, this is North Korea. I 292 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: don't know if these folks are just trying to eke 293 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: out a living or up to something sinister. But we'll 294 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: let you know if we find out more. Last one 295 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: for you, a nineteen year old kid in New York 296 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: is in trouble after capturing wild Canada geese and selling 297 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: them as domestics. Earlier this summer, a concerned hobby farmer 298 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: contacted the New York Department of Environmental Conservation to explain 299 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: that he was in possession of about a dozen Canada geese. 300 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: It's illegal in the Empire State to possess wild animals 301 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: without a proper license, but the farmer claimed it wasn't 302 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: his fault. He said he'd purchase the geese as goslings 303 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: from a farm in the town of Rose. Officers visited 304 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: that farm. They spoke with a woman who said that 305 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: her nineteen year old son had been selling geese a 306 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: few months earlier. The sun admitted that he'd found twelve 307 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: goslings near his private pond and captured them with a net. 308 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: He then sold them as domestic geese, since it's hard 309 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: to tell the difference when they're just little goslings. He's 310 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: been charged with illegally taking migratory birds, and the geese 311 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: have been released on the farm that are now eating 312 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: a natural diet instead of goose feed. Hopefully it did 313 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: something clever at least in the Craigslist ad, you know, 314 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: like advertising honkers or something. Moving on to the legislative 315 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: desk legislation. Yes, you Michiganders are likely aware of deer 316 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: hunting controversy that's now made its way to the state legislature. 317 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: This is the kind of issue that could crop up 318 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: in any state where their deer population is growing too fast, 319 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: So if you live east of the Mississippi, listen up. 320 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: Back in July, the state's Natural Resources Commission decided to 321 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: make the Liberty and Independence hunts antlerless only. The two 322 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: day Liberty Hunt is for youth sixteen and under as 323 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: well as adults with qualifying disabilities. The four day Independence 324 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: Hunt is reserved exclusively for hunters with disabilities, and both 325 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: take place prior to the state's regular firearms season. The 326 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: Commission voted four to three to prohibit hunters who qualify 327 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: for these hunts from taking antler deer. Those who supported 328 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: the move said they did so to help control the 329 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: state's deer population in the Lower Peninsula. Taking more does 330 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: is the best way to stabilize a growing population, and 331 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: they believe this new regulation will encourage hunters to do that. 332 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: But not everyone agrees, especially those who participate in these 333 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: hunts and are now prohibited from bringing home a booner, 334 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: so State Senator Thomas Albert introduced a bill that would 335 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: roll back this new regulation. Senate Bill nine ninety six 336 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: would allow hunters who qualify for either hunt to take 337 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: does and bucks as long as they have a valid 338 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: hunting license. This bill would change state statute, which means 339 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: the Commission wouldn't be able to contradict this policy without 340 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: the say so from the state legislature. Those who support 341 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: this bill say it's necessary to correct the Commission's mistake. 342 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,959 Speaker 1: Prohibiting youth and disabled hunters from killing bucks doesn't mean 343 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: they'll shoot more doze. It just means they won't go 344 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: hunting in the first place, which could actually have the 345 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: opposite effect. Those who oppose the bill say that states 346 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: legislatures shouldn't be getting involved in these kinds of decisions. 347 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: The Commission has committed to reassessing the change in twenty 348 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: twenty five, and politicians aren't qualified to dictate hunting regulations 349 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: to the commissioners. I reached out to Michigan United Conservation 350 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: Clubs to get their take. The Hunting in Conservation Group 351 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: hasn't taken an official stance on this issue, but they 352 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: say it's the topic they hear about the most from 353 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: their members. They encourage everyone to get in touch with 354 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: the Michigan Natural Resources Commission as well as their state 355 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: representatives and let their voice be heard. I'd say that's 356 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: a good idea. Things get complicated when the state legislature 357 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: gets involved in creating laws instead of regular relations. Vermont 358 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: residents have the opportunity to influence how the state manages 359 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy five thousand acres of public lands. 360 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: The Vermont Agency of Natural Resources is seeking public comment 361 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: on a new management plan that will guide decision making 362 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: for these public lands about issues like recreation, habitat management, 363 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: and natural resource extraction. Two public meetings were held on 364 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: September sixteenth and nineteenth, so if you're listening to this, 365 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: those dates have already passed, but the agency posted recordings 366 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: of those meetings, which would be a great place to 367 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: learn more about what's in the new management plan. You 368 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: can also submit a comment to the agency until November one, 369 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. We'll post a link at the meaeater 370 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: dot com forward slash col with all that info. The 371 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: Burley Field Office of the Bureau of Land Management in 372 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: Idaho has issued an emergency closure of recreational shooting in 373 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: the Indian Springs area south of Kimberly. The ruling closes 374 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: thirty seven hundred acres of blm land to recreational shooting, 375 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: though it does not prohibit shooting on private land or 376 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: hunting with a firearm. The agency said in a press 377 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: release that the Twin Falls County Sheriff's Department has received 378 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: thirty three calls in the last four years about dangerous 379 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: ricocheting bullets. They've received reports from mountain bikers, hikers, and 380 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: horseback riders who all claim to have been nearly missed 381 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: by flying pieces of lead and copper. Livestock, residences and 382 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: equipment have been struck, and one person was even hit 383 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: while repairing a fence line. That person was unhurt. What 384 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: was no doubt upset about the incident. Producer Jordan Sillers, 385 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: who lives in Texas and must pay to shoot on 386 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: private ranges, is amazed at the idea that anyone would 387 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: be allowed to go on public land and shoot wherever 388 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: they want. It's a great privilege for those of us 389 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: who live out west, and we should take that responsibility seriously. 390 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: If you're going to shoot on a down designated shooting 391 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: range on public land. Be sure you have a good backstop. 392 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: The woods don't count, and neither does flat ground. A 393 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: bullet fired at an angle into the ground can skip 394 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: back up into the air and from there to anybody's 395 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: guests where I'd end up. If you live in this 396 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: area and you're looking for another place to shoot, the 397 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: BLM recommends going to a closed gravel pit south of Filer, 398 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: five miles west on Highway ninety three. Moving on to 399 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:17,959 Speaker 1: the mailbag desk, listen up Windy City residents. You got 400 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: an email a few weeks ago from a listener named 401 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: Jonathan's Schlessinger, who serves as the Urban Fishing Program coordinator 402 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: with the Illinois Department of Natural Resources. Jonathan wants to 403 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: start a group for hunters and anglers who live in Chicago, 404 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: but he's not sure where to start. Quote there are 405 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: no hunting groups that meet in the city proper. Nearly 406 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: all of the fishing groups are located outside of the city. 407 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: In a city as large as Chicago, it seems like 408 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: there is not only space for this group, but a need. 409 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. Our country has become more and 410 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: more urbanized over the last one hundred years, but that 411 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: doesn't mean people aren't interested in hunting and fishing. Many are, 412 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: but they aren't sure where to start. Organizing A group 413 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: of like minded folks, even in the middle of the 414 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: city would be a great soar us and something that 415 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: every city should have. Jonathan wonders if he shouldn't try 416 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: to start a chapter with an existing organization or do 417 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: his own thing, and I'd probably recommend the former. Plugging 418 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: into a group like Backcountry Hunters and Anglers will give 419 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: you access to their resources and would be the best 420 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: way to connect with other Chicagoans. If you live in 421 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: Chicago yourself and want to get in touch with Jonathan, 422 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: send an email to ask Cal at the meat Eater 423 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: dot com. We'll hook you up. I know uh Pheasants 424 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: Forever is very active in uh Illinois as well, and 425 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: it'd be a great resource for you too. That's all 426 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: I got for you this week. Thank you so much 427 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: for listening. Remember to write into ask c Al that's 428 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: ask Cal at the meeteater dot com. Thanks again, I'll 429 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: talk to you next week.