WEBVTT - The Audible Ep. 62 | Jerome Baker 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:08.760 All right, the audible back on the air. Common characters here, 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:12.160 John Kill, Jimmy Kim, we're fixtures here, you know. Every 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:13.680 now and then we get somebody. I think we're gonna 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:17.439 maybe got Jerome Baker coming in from As. Finally you 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:19.360 got the O t a S going on. You got 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:22.840 the veterans and the rookies together, Rookie Minicamp last weekend, 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:24.800 and then now you've got the beginning of the O 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:26.720 t A S, the O t A season. If you 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:33.120 schedule started this week. Uh, they've been at since Monday. Tuesday. 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.320 They'll come back I believe Thursday. Uh, and then uh 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.080 and then next week. Kind of a bouncy schedule. It's 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:41.200 kind of week to week to say exactly what days 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:43.360 are gonna go. But they'll practice. They'll work three days 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:46.720 a week. And uh, John, I missed. I missed Monday, 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.120 and I was out of town, and uh, I spend 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:50.440 a little guy out here a little bit for the 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:53.800 practice the other other practice, and and the first thing 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.720 that struck me watching this practice, and look, I don't 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.880 I don't care how you know Ryan Fitzpatrick throws. I'm 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:02.960 not care how Josh Rosen, how many interceptions he throws. 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:06.000 I'm not sure, Christian Wilkins out what you know, I don't. 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.040 I want to look at the coaches and see how 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:12.920 they're um, how it's different, how it's different, and what 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:16.200 they're doing, and what kind of personality this team has. 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.000 And and just in the brief time watching John when 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.679 I saw is I saw no wasted time. You know, 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.400 when you when this this drill ends and this one starts, 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:26.720 you better get your ass over there because you no 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.640 loafing there's because it's it's gonna start. It's gonna start 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.760 right away. It's on one man's watch, and that's the 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:35.600 head coach, Brian Flores. And it's good to see, you know, 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.640 guys with urgency, even at this time of the year 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.240 when you're just trying to get through and learn systems 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.640 you learn, trying to learn new plays and schemes and 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:45.840 where to line up and what leverage you need and 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.320 where the ball needs to be located and how how 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.520 the running back is gonna run this route on on 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:54.240 zone or versus man coverage and little things. They're going 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:58.880 at a pretty good clip. And they're going because the 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.880 head coaches demand ending that they hustle. The head coaches 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.600 demanding that their discipline. The head coach is demanding and 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.360 all the coaches, you know that filters down from one man, 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.880 and that's Brian Flores, but all the coaches, from coordinators 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:13.320 to two guys that are offensive assistance, they have to 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.720 be accountable for the tempo and the pace and the 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.120 and the culture that's trying to be instilled in O 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.919 t As. That carries over into the summertime when you start, 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:24.400 you know, training camp. It's funny, John, because you you 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:25.960 look at you know, we're we're kind of looking at 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.600 players and coaches. Well there's coaches and coaches too. You know. 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:30.720 Brian has to stand in front of his group and say, 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.840 this is what I expect, this is how we're gonna 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.040 run our drills. This is how I don't want to 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.800 I wante guy's lollygagging out there. It's time to get 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:39.680 your drill, sprint and get your ass over there. Let's 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:42.440 get to work. And I think so. So the coaches 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.520 have to the coaches that haven't been around Brian Flores 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.800 and or been around that that that that organization that 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:52.680 he's come from. Um, they gotta they gotta understand what 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.360 his parameters are, what he wants for them to drive 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.640 his players by, and so you can see it out there. 0:02:57.680 --> 0:02:59.560 And then the next thing I saw is, you know, 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:01.720 there's a price to be paid out there. There's a 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.720 little price, you know, if a guy jumps off side 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.040 or whatever, there's a price to be paid out there. 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:10.080 Guys are take off, take off, And that's what I've 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.519 seen coaches running with the group and stuff. So he's automatically, 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.280 I mean, he's beginning from day one. You know, you 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:20.040 can talk about, you know, curtailing penalties, you can talk 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.880 about curtailing mental errors, you can talk about doing your 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.840 job and not trying to freelance, not trying to do things. 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.160 But until there's a price to pay, it's easy to say, well, 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:31.840 he won't do it next time. We'll get him in 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:33.640 the meeting room. Yeah, well we will get that cleared 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.119 up the meeting room. And I like to I kind 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.480 of like that instantaneous Hey, you know, you screwed up, 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.160 get going. You're held accountable for your mistakes. And and 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:44.880 I don't want it to make it sound like, hey, 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:48.400 this is a massive chaos that guys are running around there. 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.000 There's a lot of teaching going on in the midst 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:56.600 of having a up tempo, high energy practice because he's 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.680 not afraid these this coaching staff is not afraid to 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.920 pe to play, to go over a play because of 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.320 a mistake. They're not not gonna say, like you we 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:07.320 just talked about. Hey, we'll take care of it in 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.280 the meeting room in the next install. Hey, we don't 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.720 want you to do this. Do it over again, do 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.080 it right, and now get back in the huddle for 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.000 the next play, because we gotta get going. We can't 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.560 we can't keep the other eighty nine guys on hold 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.720 for you to have this repeat every every so often. 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.440 So make a mistake, correct a mistake, get back into 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.680 the script, and get back into what you're supposed to do. 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:29.640 You know, he reminds you. It kind of reminds me. 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.279 And look it's early on, I mean, but you know, 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.680 he reminds you. One of my favorite movies, this movie 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:39.120 Crimson Tide Um Denzel Washington and Gene Hackman and they're 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.279 on there and and and there's a there's a fire 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.280 in the in the in the kitchen, and and there's 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.719 chaos and then Gene Hackman puts a throws a throws 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.720 a disaster drill on him in the middle and Denzel watching, 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.039 Well why did you do that? He goes, You know what, 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:54.520 anybody can do these things when they're not under durest. 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:56.520 I want my guys to be able to do it 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:58.919 when they're under durest and they've got to react and 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.880 they've got to do something, and not that, but but 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:04.800 I think that's the kind of mentality that this coaching 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:06.680 staff has bring. I think there's gonna be situations out 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.200 there where they put him in pressure situations and it 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.599 doesn't go to hey, get well, get you know, feel 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:15.040 comfortable in an uncomfortable situation. Right. That's where it all 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.279 comes down to, because in a game, there's not a 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.760 whole lot of times where if you've played or I've 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.000 played in a game where wow, this is going so nice, 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.279 that's exactly the way I dreamt about it. This is 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:28.400 exactly way I went through walkthrough. It's mass chaos. You 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.760 guys are running all over the place and you're trying 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.599 to make plays, but you're still discipline enough to stay 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:37.080 within the system throughout all these bodies flying around you 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:39.920 or motion. You know, you're acting to motion. What leverage 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:41.360 do I have? Oh? I missed him because he got 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:43.760 outside of me. There's a lot of things that happened 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:46.080 on every play in the National Football League, but you 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.400 have to be able to be under control when everything's 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.279 hit in the face. And I think that's the type 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.760 of practice and that's the type of mentality that he 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.040 wants to instill, even even the in these O t 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.960 A s where it's voluntary, but if you're out there, 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:02.040 it's mandating that you do your job, and you can 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:03.880 there's a you can kind of tell there's an era 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:05.919 of pressure out there. There's a little bit of you know, 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:08.440 a little and look, I think the good thing about 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.000 it from a from a if you're a fan and 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:12.760 you're looking at this and say, well, what can we 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:14.719 get out of this? I think the good thing about 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.360 this is that all these players, every single one of 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.000 these players out here, for the most part, are new 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:21.720 to these Most of these coaches. There's a couple that 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.200 stuck around, a couple that had been here before and 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.080 in this and that, but for the most part, they're 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:28.720 new to these guys. So they've they've got no they're 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:31.559 they're not they're there's not card boss. First time first 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:33.400 time you you I gotta I gotta you know what 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.680 if I'm if I'm a five year veteran and I'm 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:37.720 out there and I've been starting every game for five 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.240 years and this staff comes in the first time, I 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.479 was gonna I gotta prove myself from these guys. They 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:46.800 don't know anything about me. Guys that are kind of 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.200 in that that frame, you know, Laramie Tunsel, Guys that 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.039 are in that three, four or five years, Avian Howard, 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.360 and they know you're good. But I want to know 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:58.960 what you do under can trust, you want to know 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:00.880 what you do under Duret. I want to know what 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.240 you do in terms of, hey, hop in there at 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.200 free safety and run a couple of reps and you're 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.360 a corner, you're a nickel, you know, let's see how 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.120 you do. I want to put you in that situation 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.880 because you might have to play there, and I think 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:15.400 that's exactly what this team needs. I think the other 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.800 thing to John is I think the youth in this team. 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:22.720 I think it's a good group youth wise for for 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:26.680 Brian and his staff to really influence them, because they're 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:28.600 not looking. If you had a bunch of guys in 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.720 here there seven, eight, nine, ten years in the league, 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.040 they're gonna go, especially if they've been through a number 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.240 of staffs. I've heard it, been there, done that. I'm 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.559 just gonna do the same shit I do. It served 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.560 me well for eight years. I'm gonna keep doing the 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:44.720 same stuff I used to do, just thinking I've got 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.800 young guys that that that they're just trying to figure out, 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.240 you know, like these guys were drafted this year and 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.040 some of the guys who were drafting that they're still 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:53.720 trying to figure out what life's like in the NFL. 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:55.960 How are I And now you've got a group that 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.040 they can mold these guys, I think a little bit 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:02.400 more than a veteran laden roster. When when you're coming 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.000 into this situation, just think about what you've heard over 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.880 the past week. When you hear quotes like from Joe Flacco, 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.880 it's not my job to get this rookie ready, well 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.360 kind of it is. You know, I don't think that 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.960 you have to, you know, play by play and rep 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:19.520 by rep kind of critique him. But he's looking at 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.240 you on how you do your reps. I'm sure that 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:24.160 Jake Rudoc and Josh Rosen are looking at every rep 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:27.720 that Ryan Fitzpatrick takes and whether Ryan Fitzpatrick is offering 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.840 information or being helpful, that's not the important thing. The 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:34.040 important thing is if they ask, you're there to give feedback. 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.439 But watch how I do it, you know, watch how 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.720 I go through these things and try to mimic me. 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.520 Because I've been through six or seven offenses. I've been 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:44.800 in the league fourteen years going into your fifteen season, 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:46.680 I've seen it. I've been around the block. I've been 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.240 around good coaches. I've been around great coaches. I've been 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.040 around some mediocre guys. Here's what I'm here's why I'm 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.360 trying to do it this way. You know, this is 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.240 what this staff wants. This is how I'm gonna adapt 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.839 my wisdom. And it's your job, as a rookie or 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.160 first year or second year guy, to kind of mimic 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.040 me if you see me do something that's positive, because 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.800 that's the way I wanted I wanted taught. So so 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.520 you're learning on the job. So I think that you know, 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.160 whether you're a second year, first year, third year guy, 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:16.720 or you're a fourteen year guy, you're trying to do 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.240 your job to the best of your ability to mimic 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.720 what they've done. In the classroom to bring on the 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.400 field because the guy behind you needs to do it 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:26.280 that way too. And you know, it's a funny thing 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:29.959 about the National Football League. You know John is in 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:31.959 football in general, because I saw it in college a 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:33.719 little bit too, but not not so much as is 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:36.240 in the NFL. But you know, you come in here, 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.000 and I remember when I came in, I was drafted. 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.480 I was the first round draft pick. I come in 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.720 Larry Gore and they drafted two line who outside linebackers, 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.199 Larry Gordon one side, me on the other side. And 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.480 and I came in and Bob Mathison was the incumbent. 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:53.080 Bob Mathison was the guy that was that's they they 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.600 want to practice. I lined up behind Bob Mathison right. 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:57.360 I was number two in line. He was number one. 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.960 And I'll tell you what, that guy spend as much 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.440 time helping me, you know, he and he knew down 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.560 well here I was standing there for I was standing 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:11.199 there to take his job. And and that guy couldn't 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:15.880 have been more helpful, more supportive, more just from whatever 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.960 I needed and really became a very very close friend 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.960 of mine. And and as I looked around on that team, 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.440 Now remember a lot of these guys on that team 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:27.320 were guys that were kind of at the end of 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.600 that arc of the seventh because I was in there 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.880 with you know, Jake Scott was here, Dick Anderson was here, 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:38.200 Larry Little, Kuchenberg, Langer Greasy. I mean, I came in 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.920 with that whole towards the end of that that group's career. 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.800 And and so those guys had no reason to to 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.600 help guys. And and I'm watching and I'm looking at 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.360 Bob helping me, and I'm looking at someone talking to 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.079 Larry Gordon and helping Larry. And then the next year A. J. 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.560 Dewey and Bob bomb Hora comes in and I see 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.520 Manny Fernandez, they're working with him, and I see Stanfield 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:59.320 working with and I see these guys. They didn't have 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.160 to do that. But and I but I think that's 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:06.160 part in parcel of what what what will and can 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.560 make this franchise get it back to where it was 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:14.080 if you've got that kind of a mentality going into it, 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.840 and it seems to be something of at least look, 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.080 you can talk about all you want until you see 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:23.720 it on a regular basis. They in games in situations, 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:25.480 you know, when that guy gets pulled out of the game, 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:27.280 does he go mope on the bench or do you 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.280 come over and try to support the guy that they 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.360 just went in, take the criticism and wait for his 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.320 next opportunity. And I think that that goes back to 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.800 the way the culture was built with those teams in 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.120 the Miami Dolphins, with the organization. I mean, that was 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:42.400 just a given. And I think that happened more in 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.120 that era than it does now because everybody is so 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.440 individualistic in terms of my brand and the way I 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.880 do it, Whereas if the organization or the culture takes 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.360 care of it, you're morph into that once you become 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.520 a member of the fabrica that football team. Because look, 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.880 because you you you know that that's all you know. 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.080 You come in to the league and that's what's going on. 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:03.560 That's all you know. You don't know what's going on 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:07.120 and somewhere else Cleveland or whatever, you know. It's like 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:08.800 when I came in the league, there was when I 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:13.120 came in the league, steroids were just coming onto the scene, 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:17.200 and there was no rules against steroids, and and and 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.040 there were teams that were steroid teams, and there were 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.280 teams that weren't steroid teams. You know, don't don't. Shula 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.920 was a you know, he was he was a stickler 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:26.400 for the rules. These are the rules, these are rules. 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.040 No well no, no, no, you know we're we're not 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.280 we're not going out of the bat And it wasn't illegal, 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.440 but it was you know, it was gray. Then there 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.560 are other teams you go, you go there, you know, 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.880 free Wheel, you're freewheel and everyone knew and you knew 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.280 and and so you know, I always felt myself lucky 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.880 to go to a team that more then I got 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.120 to the other one. Who knows. I'll tell you a 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.480 funny story. So I played in Toronto my first five 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.320 or six years in Canada. So I get traded to Ottawa. 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.280 And Ottawa was always a team that we had a 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.559 really good record against, especially you know, whether they had 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.560 equal talent or more talent. That year, we found a 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.880 way in the second half to win. So I remember 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.400 going in and and at halftime one game, you know, 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.560 we were having our way with this team. And at 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.960 halftime I see all these guys, you know, kind of 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.520 taking whenever they were taking and and and it was okay. 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.440 And then all of a sudden we started getting worn 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.640 down as the season went on. I got mad one 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:21.560 game and I said, why did you guys start taking 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:25.439 that ship at the beginning of a game. We're getting halftime, 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.320 and halftime hasn't been a problem the second half. The 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.720 first half we're having a problem, right, So start taking 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.640 that stuff earlier. But it's right, It's it depends on 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.480 culture and where you're at and who's accustomed to, you know, 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.000 doing whatever it is that's out there. See we're you know, 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.400 me coming to the Dolphins and and having that kind 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:45.160 of tutelage and that kind of atmosphere in there. I 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.080 I could, I could, you know. And over the years 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.040 that I played, the guys that played for the forty 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:51.720 niners had the same kind of conversations with them, guys 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:53.839 that played for the Charges when don Koreyelle was there 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.720 and they were rolling pretty good without same kind of thing. Cowboys. 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.079 You know those teams, those teams that were constant he 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:04.440 win and all Pittsburgh, they all had that same mentality whereas, hey, 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.600 you know this guy's you may not like this guy 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.080 that we just drafted, but at some point he's gonna 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:10.600 be he's gonna have to help us win a game, 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:14.080 and if he's not ready then then then then it 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.559 affects all of us. And so there's that now that 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:18.760 there was the other things at the time. Cincinnati wasn't 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.600 a good football team, Green Bay wasn't a good football team, 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.280 and you talked to the guys there and they're like, 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.880 jeeus a free for all up there, knowing you know, guys, 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:27.120 guy in front of me there right, you know, I 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.160 asked him one time once something. I just turns and 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.840 walking away from me. So, you know, different franchise, different things, 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:33.840 but kind of getting taken it back to where the 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:37.360 conversation started. I just think that the mentality of this franchise, 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.200 with the age group of people and with some of 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.800 the veterans sprinkled in there. Keiko is a good example. 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:44.680 You know, Keiko is a guy that's gonna any one 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:46.480 of those linebackers. I don't care who he is, it 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.800 comes up to him, is going to get an education. 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.160 He gonna, Hey, this is this, this is how I 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.360 do it. This is what I'm looking at. LOO got 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:54.920 to look for this because if you see this, it 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:56.880 means that you know, I think you know, I think 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:58.960 he's and I think there's plenty of those guys out 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:00.880 there in this football there's a lot of teaching going 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:02.880 on and I really got to commend, you know, the 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:06.120 staff for the way they're going about, you know, the 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.000 work that they're putting in in the O tas and 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.440 the attention to detail, because they know it's those little 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.760 things that end up getting you in the end. It's 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:17.160 those little things, that little mistakes that they're trying to correct. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.760 When you're trying to build a football team, you're trying 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.800 to get to a point where these types of things 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:24.800 are second nature to you. You don't have to think 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.960 about them because they're already expected and you've wrapped them 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:29.880 and you've done it, and you're not gonna do those 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.840 types of things again to beat yourself. Those are the 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:34.560 things that you can get done in O t A 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:36.680 s and those are the things you can try to 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.840 make it happen on a regular basis. And I think 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.520 that's where the staff's going. And that's why you saw 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.760 maybe all eleven guys taken off and running and the 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.720 coaches running, because the attention to detail and all the 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:50.680 stuff that you need to do to try to build 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.320 that culture. So it's it happens second nature to you. 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:57.400 Those are the things that that build winning franchises and organizations, 0:15:57.800 --> 0:15:59.560 I think, and it's it starts with O T A S. 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.240 I might tell we got someone just off hot off 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.480 the practice field. He's running, he's been running. I saw 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:08.560 him out. It is hot off the practice field, too, 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.400 isn't It definitely is Jerome Baker joining us here in 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:14.400 the in the program, and Jerome it's you know you 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.760 it's gone through the draft, has come through the rookie minicamp. 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.160 Now everyone's together and really getting your first couple of 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.040 practices under this uh, under this new h new coaching 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.680 staff out here. What what's the what's the tempo, what's 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.320 the mentality? Uh? As you guys got ready to get 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:30.120 started these O T A s um just go out 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.000 there improve it every day. Uh that's kind of what 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.000 we just you know, do saying every day. So it's 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:36.960 definitely being a hot one. It's definitely been tough, but 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.440 I'm just constant gotta get better at something. You're not 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:41.040 not for nothing to my brother, but you you're got 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:42.400 a little pumped up there. You know. You spend a 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.240 little time in the weight room this offseason. Yeah, this 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:46.680 this year. Uh, you know, I definitely spend a lot 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.360 of time in the room. So I'm definitely did you 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:50.800 have a goal in your mind? And what did you want? 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:52.000 What you want to do? Did you want to gain 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.360 more weight? Did you want to just what? What? What 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.040 was your what would you what do you? What do 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:57.840 you want? And you still got still out of time 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.360 doing it? But yeah, I just wanted to, um, just 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.160 build a lot of a lot more body mass. Uh 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.960 you know today I waited at so I want to 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:07.719 play at two or third year on that ring? So 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:15.000 uh what I was eighteens definitely spent some time away 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:18.119 from Joan. What you learned about yourself after, you know, 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.840 your first year, your rookie year, because for us watching 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.159 you play, it seemed like you got better as the 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.040 season went along, You got more comfortable, more familiar with 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.040 where you needed to be in your drops or how 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.080 you were gonna attack a running play when you watched 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.679 yourself on film? What did you learn about yourself? A 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:36.399 lot of time. I know what I have to do, 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.800 I know what I you know would it be? But 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:42.040 I just didn't have that confidence confidence of you know, um, 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.720 letting others know speaking what I speaking out on what 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:46.800 I see? UM and this shot. You know, I took 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.560 that role head on and uh, um, just you know, 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.280 be more vocal, be more of a later role. So 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:55.760 so basically half of the equation is is the physical 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.959 and mental, but a lot of it is communication when 0:17:58.000 --> 0:17:59.840 you're on the field. Because we were just talking about 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:03.000