1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk. 2 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: Hi. 3 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: Everyone, welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have a great 4 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: episode for you today. We have a lot of crazy stories, 5 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: including a child who died from inhaling helium from a balloon, 6 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: a man who had to have his toes amputated because 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: of his wedding shoes, getting bachelism from botox, a deadly 8 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: infection from a sinus tress, and a woman who woke 9 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: up alive in her coffin. All that in moral today's episode. 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: Let's get started with helium balloons. 11 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: So this six year old boy died after inhaling helium 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: from a milar balloon just days after celebrating his birthday. 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: Do you remember we had a case back in February 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: of a woman who died from inhaling helium as well. 16 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, at her kid's birthday party. 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 18 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean her case was a little different because she 19 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: was sucking it directly out of the canister, which was terrible. 20 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: But this is a six year old kid that was 21 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: inhaling it to you know, make that signature, really high 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: pitched voice. He was sucking it out of a large 23 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: mylar balloon. And the helium. It's the same exact thing 24 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: that we talk about all the time, like you wouldn't 25 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: would you like let your kid do a whip it? 26 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: No. But I really don't think people understand the severity 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: of this because I see people do this so often. 28 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 3: I have seen it dep I just was watching a. 29 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: TV show last night where they did it as a joke. 30 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, like this, this is a 31 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: crazy story. I probably told this on here before, but 32 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: I was across the street with with my neighbors and 33 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: so am I. The one neighbor is a nurse. She's 34 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: a good nurse too, and me and her are sitting 35 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: back there and our kids were like, let's do that. 36 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: So then we did it and we were laughing and 37 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: like we it was like this weird thing that we 38 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: both looked at each other and was like, wait, this 39 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: is probably like really fucking bad, and like I look 40 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: it up and sure enough it's you know, because this 41 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: isn't something that you normally hear about happening, even in 42 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: practice and pathology, like it doesn't happen that often. So 43 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: when it happens, you you know, it's it's a big story. 44 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, it's probably not good. 45 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 3: We're gonna look it up. Let's look it up. 46 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: We look it up, and sure enough, it's just like, 47 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's It's just as bad as doing a 48 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: whippet or anything else. Right, And then we were like 49 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: the bad parents. Of course, we're the bad parents for 50 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: letting the kids do it. I don't know if the 51 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: kids actually did it or we did it first, but 52 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: we were just like, yeah, we're never doing this again. 53 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: This is freaking terrible. And now every single time a 54 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: story like this comes up, like, I'm gonna send her 55 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: this story today because it scares you because you're like, 56 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, we were just like doing that to 57 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: have fun with the kids, and it's it's a party trick, 58 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: right since you were a kid, And no, it's it's 59 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: terrible and it needs the word needs to be spread 60 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: how bad it is, because unfortunately this little six year 61 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: old kid died from this. 62 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 63 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I really just think it boils down to people, 64 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: just like you say, they think about making their voice funny, 65 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: they don't think about how dangerous it actually is. Did 66 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: inhale a chemical like this? 67 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 68 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: All right, So in the UK, this man got a 69 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 2: pair of orthotic shoes from the NHS for his wedding day. 70 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: He immediately told them the shoes were uncomfortable and too tight, 71 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: but they told him they were just breaking in still, 72 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: so he wore them for a few hours on his 73 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: wedding day until it became unbearable, and then within weeks 74 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: he got an absess which resulted in his toes needing 75 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: to be amputated. So this same exact thing happened to 76 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: my dad. He had to have an orthotic and he 77 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: kept telling them it was uncomfortable and it was rubbing 78 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: against his leg and to the point where he was 79 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: just like, I'm not going to wear it anymore because 80 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: it hurts so bad. I don't know if that's considered 81 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: to be normal to happen with these things, but this 82 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: guy was complaining for a while, And really, when a 83 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: person is complaining about having an uncomfortable thing on their feet, 84 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: especially this guy because he had diabetes, you want to 85 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 2: make sure that they're not getting an injury, because what 86 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: happens is number one, they have neuropathy and they can't 87 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: have as much feeling as a normal person would have 88 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: sometimes in their feet. So he got this really bad 89 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: wound and an ulceration because of the rubbing, and didn't 90 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: even really realize it until much later on when it 91 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: was much worse than it should have been. He should 92 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: have gotten treatment for it a long time before then. Plus, 93 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: when you're diabetic, you have damage to your blood vessels, 94 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: so you're not getting enough oxygenated blood down there to 95 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: heal wounds, so you have wounds that don't heal as 96 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: quickly or don't heal at all, which is why it's 97 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: important for you to get treatment for it as soon 98 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: as something pops up. And then number three, just being 99 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: diabetic and having high blood sugar could make an environment 100 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: that bacteria really like all that sugar, So you just 101 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: have such an increased risk for infections when you have diabetes, 102 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: especially in your feet, And that's a well known fact. 103 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 2: That's why they say, don't. 104 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: Cut your toenails yourself, don't get a pedicure, get it 105 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: done by a medical professional, just to make sure that 106 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: you don't get any little tiny wound that would end 107 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: up being a serious thing, like having to get any amputation. 108 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: And think about this, like how many times have you 109 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: worn shoes that are uncomfortable that give you blisters? And 110 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: it's fine because you're healthy and it heels good. But 111 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: for a diabetic patient, this is the difference between having 112 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: a foot and not having a foot. So in this case, 113 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: he had to get as big toe amputated and then 114 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: he had to get several other toes amputated. That's usually 115 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: how it goes, so in pathology, we'll get a toe, 116 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: and then we'll get a couple more toes, and then 117 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: we'll get the rest of the foot, and then we'll 118 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: get all the way up until the knee, and sometimes 119 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: even above the knee, depending on how bad the gangreine is. 120 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: So unfortunately in this case, he lost his toes and 121 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: now he wants to take action against this orthotic company. 122 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: So can you still walk if you have the rest 123 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: of your foot but no toes? 124 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: You can, but it's it's difficult because your toes are 125 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: your balance. So he probably has to walk with assistance, 126 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: with like a cane or something like that. You know, 127 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: And the guy just got married and he was walking 128 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: perfectly fine before then, so it definitely is debilitating. He 129 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: honestly would probably do better if he got his leg 130 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: amputated below the knee and got a prosthetic as far 131 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: as walking goes. 132 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: Well, didn't you recommend pop up get his foot amputi? 133 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: I did. 134 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 3: I freaked out. 135 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: Everybody thought that I was so outrageous for saying that, 136 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: But my dad was having a really hard time walking 137 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: and the orthotics weren't working, and then he had the surgery, 138 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,559 Speaker 1: and it was you know, one thing leads to another 139 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: because then you don't walk, and then all of a 140 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: sudden you're gaining more weight because you're not walking, and 141 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, it all works itself off of each other. 142 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, I said to my dad twenty years ago. 143 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: Now, I was just like, Dad, get the freaking foot 144 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: amputated and get a prosthetic, and then. 145 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: You'll be able to walk. But no one listens to me. Whatever. 146 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: They thought that I was outrageous for saying that, But listen, 147 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: in pathology, I've gotten lots of legs for people that 148 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: were just like painful leg You look at it and 149 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: you're like, there's no gangerine, there's nothing wrong with it. 150 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: They just had chronic pain and it it sometimes makes 151 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: more sense to just get rid of whatever's causing the 152 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: pain and then just start over with a fake one. 153 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: Not that you wouldn't have any kind of challenges having 154 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: a prosthetic leg because you do for sure, But how 155 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: many people do you see walking around with them like 156 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: they work? 157 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: You know? 158 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: This episode is a brought to you by the Grosserom. 159 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: Guys, we're having a sal that we only have a 160 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: few times a year, which is twenty for an entire 161 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty five days of Gross. 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Okay, So, ten cases of botulism have been 172 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: connected to one spot in Massachusetts. So can you explain 173 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 2: what this is? So? Well? 174 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: Yes, because a lot of our listeners are probably getting botox, right, 175 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: and if if you guys know what botox is like 176 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: really is it stands for bochulism tosin, So botox right. 177 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: It was discovered that botulism toxin it's a neurotoxin caused 178 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: by the bacteria cog Claustridium bochulinum, And it was discovered 179 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: that if it was an FDA proof that if it 180 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: was injected in the globella, which is the frown lines 181 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: right here for those of you who are watching on YouTube, 182 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: that it would paralyze essentially the muscles and it would 183 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: cause it to look like you don't have wrinkles, which 184 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: is which is why the whole botox craze happened, because 185 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: it it really does work, like, look. 186 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: I can't even move my forehead right now. 187 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: But it's also been used for cosmetics. For now, it's 188 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: just like going off the hook. Like people are using 189 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: it to like stop sweating under their armpits and to 190 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: flip their lip up if they don't like it, and 191 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: to hold in their muscle underneath their chin if they 192 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: if they feel like that's a problem and it's going 193 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: all over the place and that that's fine, But with 194 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: social media and everything, it's like everybody wants it, and 195 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of expensive for some people. So then 196 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: they start going to people that maybe aren't the best injectors, 197 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: but say they have the botox and this is what's happening. 198 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: So whenever you go to get botox, because it has 199 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: the potential to be so dangerous, you want to make 200 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: sure that you go to somebody that is an expert injector. 201 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: And really, I personally think that you should go to 202 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: somebody that does it for a career. I go to 203 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: doctor Dimitri in Morristown and he's awesome. Shout out to him. 204 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm actually going to him tomorrow and I'll talk to 205 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: him about this case for sure and come back if 206 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: he has any interesting things to say. But he only 207 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: specifically does that, and I think that that's really important 208 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: because it's like he's an expert of it. It's all 209 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: he does, and he knows what's wrong, and he knows 210 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: what's right. 211 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: He knows the anatomy. 212 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: And on top of that, he's using legit products. He's 213 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: not getting things like off of Amazon or wherever people 214 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: are getting these drugs that they shouldn't be buying them from. 215 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: So I even would, and I've talked to doctor Dmitri 216 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: about this, I would go as far as say that 217 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't go like if your dentist is like, hey, 218 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: I started doing botox, or your family doctor's like, hey, 219 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: I started doing botox, Like I wouldn't do it personally, 220 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: that's just me. But this is where you get risk 221 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: of things going wrong with people that don't really know 222 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: it that well. But you certainly shouldn't go to a 223 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: place that is not legit because that's probably what happened 224 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: in this case. So sometimes if it's either the actual 225 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: product or it's just not being injected correctly. When it 226 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: is applied correctly, it just stays local to the muscle 227 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: and it paralyzes the muscle. The last thing you wanted 228 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: to do is to take up inside of your bloodstream 229 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: and go around your body, because then you're going to 230 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: have classic symptoms of botulism and it's just really really bad. 231 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: So these people were having this what's called iatrogenic botulism, 232 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: which is bread beyond where it was injected, so blurred vision, 233 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: double vision, slurred speech, breathing difficulties. That's kind of a 234 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: real bad problem that you don't want to have, especially 235 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: when you're going to get rid of a wrinkle. The 236 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: last thing you want is your eyeball to be drooping 237 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: and your eyelids won't stay open. I mean, how terrible 238 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: would that be? And having problems with your vision and 239 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: things like that. So this is just a really important 240 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: lesson that make sure you go to somebody who's legit, 241 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: and if you don't have the money for it, then 242 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: just like skip that time instead of going to somebody 243 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: that's going to give you a botch job. 244 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: Well, could this happen places to what this could happen 245 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 2: at legit places too? Though, Well, it's just more if. 246 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: They're using legit. 247 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: If they're if they're using legit product, it could still 248 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: happen if it's not injected correctly, and a lot of 249 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: different things that can happen if things aren't, including fillers too. 250 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: That's why it's so important because I know you're looking 251 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: at a face and you're just looking at skin and 252 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: you're seeing wrinkles, but underneath of that skin, it's just 253 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: like think about being in New York City, like you're 254 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: looking at the street level and think about all the 255 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: things that are happening underground. There's subways, there's pipes, there's this, 256 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: there's that. Right, it's the same exact thing with your face. 257 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: You have nerves, you have blood vessels, you have like 258 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: certain things that cannot be touched and somebody has to 259 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: be an expert in anatomy of the face to know 260 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: exactly where to put a needle and inject this stuff, 261 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: because if you inject it in a blood vessel, it 262 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: could be terrible. If you inject it in a nerve, 263 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: it could be terrible, and it could cause permanent damage. 264 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: So you really want to make sure that you're going 265 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: to someone who's legit and it is a master of it. 266 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: All Right, So, a woman in Texas has died after 267 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: contracting a brain amba from using tapwater at an RV 268 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: campground and using it in her sinus rints. 269 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: We talked about this recently too, right, maybe not recently, 270 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: but it was last year actually, Remember we were talking 271 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: about a baby who died from a brain eating amiba 272 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: from visiting a water park in Arkansas. 273 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've also touched. 274 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: We definitely had a discussion about using tapwater and a 275 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: Nettie pot before too, because I had told you that 276 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: I definitely did it one time, but after that, I 277 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: was like, that definitely wasn't smart. 278 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: So well, they they sell that squeeze bottle. 279 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the natty pot too. 280 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: Well with the pot, I think that, Yeah, So there's 281 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: various versions of the sinus frints, which is the squeeze 282 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: bottle like you're talking about, or there's like the physical 283 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: ceramic pot. 284 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: That's the way I use so but you put that 285 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: solution of the powder into it. But it says all 286 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: over the place, because I had to give them to 287 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: Lilian before. It says all over the place to use 288 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: either distelled water or to. 289 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: Boil the water. 290 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't. You can't blow that off. And this 291 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: is exactly why, because you're entering you think about drinking water. 292 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of gross if it's coming out 293 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: of a tap, right. There's all different sorts of things 294 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: in there. One of them is it could be an 295 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: amiba that's called Nygleia Fowley and this was found in 296 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: this woman's spinal fluid. It's called a brain eating amiba. 297 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: It's not a bacteria. It's kind of like a parasite. 298 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: Honestly. 299 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: It causes meningio encephalitis, which is when there's an inflammation 300 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: of the brain as well as the miningis that are 301 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: the thin membranes that cover the brain. And it's really bad, 302 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: it's really really deadly. There's been one hundred and sixty 303 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: four cases reported in the United States and only four 304 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: people have survived. So it's rare, but when you get it, 305 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: it's especially because it's so rare, Like, think about one 306 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty four cases over I don't even know 307 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: what it was over a ten year period now, from 308 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two to twenty twenty three, that was the 309 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty four Yeah, So so think about 310 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: this from a doctor's perspective. If a person this lady 311 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: was a seventy one year old lady that was pretty 312 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: healthy and then started having symptoms right same exacting with 313 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: this kid. Sixteen month old baby started having symptoms of 314 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: a fever, vomiting, and stuff like that. Like when you're 315 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: a physician at a hospital, this is the last thing 316 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: on your mind that's happening to a person until you 317 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: start doing investigation, which might take a while to figure 318 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: out exactly what happened, and then it's too late. 319 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: Well, what's scary in this case too, is she didn't 320 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: even start presenting symptoms for four days and then she 321 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 2: died eight days later. So I feel like because it 322 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: wasn't immediate, that's even harder to figure. 323 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: Out what happened. 324 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: Well, if she started displaying symptoms right away and someone 325 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: figured it out right away what it was, it could be. 326 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that's why people have survived because because you 327 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: don't have to die from it, I guess. But by 328 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: the time they're figuring it out, it's it's too late. 329 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: And honestly, like they do they do the spinal tap 330 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: and they figure it out. I don't know how they 331 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: cause I don't know if it would be really a culture, 332 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm not exactly sure of the test that would 333 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: be done for it, so and how long that takes, 334 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: just because it's it's weird and you just we talk 335 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: about that sometimes on this program that like in hindsight, Yeah, 336 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: but think about a sixteen month old kid that's vomiting 337 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: and it's crying, Like, okay, that's every sixteen month old kid, Like, 338 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: why would you ever think they have a brain eating amiba? 339 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: You know, do you guys take spinal fluid at every 340 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: autopsy or just in a case where you're having a 341 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: hard time figuring out? 342 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 3: We don't. 343 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: We don't take spinal fluid at autopsy. They might use 344 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: it sometimes well for like uh, toxicology or something like that, 345 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: but we like a typical autopsy, we wouldn't take spinal fluid. 346 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: They take spinal fluid from a person like while they're 347 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: still alive to be able Like they diagnosed this from 348 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: this woman when she was still alive. They did a 349 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: spinal tap and pulled out the fluid and then that's 350 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: how they were able to determine it was there. That 351 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't be that would be like a toxicology situation though. 352 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be something that you would do on a 353 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: routine autopsy for sure, because think about this, like if 354 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,719 Speaker 1: we were doing it for even on this woman, like 355 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: we have access. The reason you want to do the 356 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: spinal fluid is because that fluid bathes the spinal cord 357 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: and brain, right, So if any infection or weird thing 358 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: is in the brain, you would think that that bacteria 359 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: would get into the spinal fluid and it's an easy 360 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: access to see what's going on because otherwise you would 361 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: have to cut open a person's skull and like take 362 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: a biopsy of their brain and that would be kind 363 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: of crazy, right. So, but when you have the autopsy 364 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: and you have the dead person right in front of you, 365 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 1: you have their brain tissue, you have access to like 366 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,479 Speaker 1: the meat, so like, you don't need to look at 367 00:18:58,480 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: the fluid. 368 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: Well, it's important to boil the water you used to 369 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: seal the water. We have to learn from these stories 370 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: because these I mean, obviously this is a rare situation, 371 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 2: but it's still scary, and. 372 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: I believe honestly, like, I'm not sure how because I 373 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: don't know much about this organism. I wonder if lots 374 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: of people are exposed to it all the time and 375 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: just people don't get sick from it, because I have 376 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: a hard time believing that like only one hundred and 377 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 1: sixty four people have been exposed to this and got 378 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: sick from it. 379 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: You're think relying on people that have reported it too, 380 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 2: because yeah, and to be so many that aren't, and 381 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: there's probably situations where people die from it and maybe 382 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: they never figure it out. 383 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: They're just like, oh, they just had this crazy brain infection. 384 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I don't know, you know, 385 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: and since the sixties, you don't know what the documentation's been, so. 386 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. In the Czech Republic, an eighty eight 387 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: year old woman was found unresponsive by her husband, EMTs, 388 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 2: and the coroner determined she was dead undertaker showed up 389 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: put her in a coffin. So while she's sitting in 390 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: this coffin in the hallway to her apartment building, she 391 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: ends up waking. Yeah, I mean, this isn't a typical 392 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: protocol in the United States to bring the coffin directly 393 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: to the person, But why not, right, I mean, it 394 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 2: just cuts out unnecessary steps kind of to go, oh, 395 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: you got to go to a hospital first, in a 396 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: funeral home or whatever. 397 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's just interesting that they would 398 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: do that. 399 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 3: But whatever. 400 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess when the husband the woman was older, 401 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: in her eighties, and the husband called and had the 402 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: ambulance come and he thought that she might have died. 403 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: The ambulance pronounced her dead. Then the coroner came in 404 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: and pronounced her dead too. I don't know what the 405 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: rules are of pronouncing a person dead. There. They're supposed 406 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: to note the general appearance of the body, if there's 407 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: any reaction to like verbal or pain stimuli. One important 408 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: thing is to look at the pupils and see that 409 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: they are fixed. They don't move if you shine a 410 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: light on them. Like I don't know if you've ever 411 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: done this, but just like put a flashlight when Brickie 412 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: gets home from work tonight, like put a flashlight up 413 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: to his light. 414 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 3: The light makes your pupils open up. 415 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: Really well, yeah, it's the same way a Cameron Len's exactly. 416 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: So when a person's dead, that doesn't work anymore. You 417 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: check their breathing, It just should be a combination of 418 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: different things. You check their breathing, you don't hear any 419 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: lung sounds, there's no pulse of they're crotted artery, or 420 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: there's no pulse on their wrist. You can't hear their heart. 421 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: And obviously, like if there's signs, you could call somebody. 422 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: You could pronounce someone dead pretty quickly if they're decomposed 423 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: or whatever. But obvious signs of death rigormortis, live remortis 424 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: and things like that. But clearly they didn't go through 425 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: the protocol because she was still alive and in fact, 426 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: she was brought to the hospital and she's still alive 427 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: in the hospital. Now this goes to think like, okay, 428 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: because they didn't seem like they tried to resuscitate her 429 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: until they figured out that she was alive. So, I mean, 430 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: she's eighty eight years old. Whatever she doesn't have could 431 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: you could say that she doesn't have a ton of 432 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: time left anyway, but people live to be one hundred. 433 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: She could she could at least have twelve years of 434 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: life left. Like they didn't even try. They were like, yeah, 435 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: she's dead. 436 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting is this is called the Lazareth effect, 437 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: which is named after Jesus raising Lazareth back. 438 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 3: From the dead. 439 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 2: So it's defined as when a patient will begin to 440 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: show signs of life and must continue to show these 441 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: signs for more than a few seconds, which typically happens 442 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: after somebody performed CPR on a person. But they're saying 443 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 2: between nineteen eighty two and twenty twenty two, there was 444 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 2: seventy four confirmed cases of Lazareth effect in the United States. 445 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 3: Really, I don't know. I don't declare people dead. 446 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: So you know what people are like, I died for 447 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: a couple of seconds. Well there's a difference between yes, 448 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: people say that and don't. I don't know what that's 449 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 2: all about, like honestly, and nobody really does because nobody 450 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: could study that full But you could have cardiac arrest 451 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 2: that could be reversible, like your heart could stop and 452 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: it could get restarted again. We saw it happen with 453 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 2: that what was what was that one football player's name? 454 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: It happened right on tomar Hamlet. 455 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this heart stopped so he could tell people 456 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: he died because he technically did, and then it got 457 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: started again, right. 458 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: So that's what they're saying with this lass. I can't 459 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 2: of course, I can't say this with this effect. They're 460 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 2: saying it typically with patients and having heart problems. 461 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I mean it could your your heart could 462 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: stop and it could get restarted and you could go 463 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: on to live like a healthy life. But there's also 464 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: irreversible damage, heart damage, brain damage and things like that. 465 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not sure what happened in this case, 466 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: but she wasn't. 467 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 3: Dead, all right. 468 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: Well, on that note, if you guys want to buy 469 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 2: tickets for the Atlanta Meat and Great please head over 470 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: to the description of this the Grocerroom or social media 471 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: for those tickets, and if you went ahead, over to 472 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: our Spotify or Apple and leave us a review, subscribe 473 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: to our YouTube, or if you have a story for us, 474 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 2: please submit it to stories at Mothernosdeath dot com. 475 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: Don't forget the groscerroom is on sale for twenty dollars 476 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: if you want to get in this weekend. 477 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 2: See you guys next week. 478 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 3: Say yah. 479 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Mother Nos Death. 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