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We 57 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: read them on the air as long as they are nice. 58 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: The official weapon of the show is an unofficial sport 59 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: and bulletball Extreme And it's time to get into the show. Okay, guys, 60 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that's happening. Uh, we don't have 61 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: that much time. We got planned tonight, so we gotta, 62 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: you know, try to get into all the news of 63 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: the day and whatnot. First of all, our continues to 64 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 2: be a hurricane and text is that is like thousands 65 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: of people had to be evacuated. People are It's weird. 66 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: People lose their empathy over that shit. Because I think 67 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: on the Internet, it's just not real to people, right, 68 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 2: So it's just like you're seeing video and news and stuff, 69 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 2: and you know, obviously there are people that are gonna 70 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: make light of a bad situation because that's how they 71 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: cope with stuff. I'm not trying to knock those people. 72 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: There's people in the hurricane that are making jokes and shit, 73 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: But there's also like stuff like why didn't they evacuate 74 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: the city, And people are like, well, it's like the 75 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: fourth largest city in the United States, Like, it's just 76 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: not that easy to evacuate. 77 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 4: You're talking about millions, though. 78 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 5: They were talking about like literally millions of people that 79 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 5: they were going to. 80 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 4: Try to get out, and you basically. 81 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 5: Looking on the internet a lot of people saying they 82 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 5: actually lived there on the internet. It's best they didn't 83 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 5: because people would have been sitting in traffic. 84 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 4: While it was by the flood started rising. 85 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 5: So it's almost like a catch twenty two they didn't 86 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 5: notice two weeks ago where they could have properly evacuated 87 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 5: the city because I. 88 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: Don't know what why if people can even. 89 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 5: Leave, right, because you have to think that a lot 90 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 5: of people will assume but just get up and leave. 91 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 5: Everybody ain't got the money to get up and leave. 92 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 5: Where are some people gonna go? Some people don't have 93 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 5: family they could they could go to Some people. 94 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 4: Have to do hotels. 95 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 5: Like, leaving is fucking expensive, you know. It's not like 96 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 5: you could just get up and just go. 97 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: It's not that that I take two weeks off of 98 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: work to leave earlier, right, am. 99 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 4: I gonna am? I gonna have my job when I 100 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: come back. 101 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 2: Well, I make rent now, right? 102 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 4: LI shit like that? 103 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: What if it's not as bad as people think it 104 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: might be? 105 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 4: You know, And that's the thing. 106 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 5: Everybody just assumes that it's not that bad until this 107 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 5: shit happens. 108 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 4: I always take it seriously. 109 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I'm not even saying. No, I'm 110 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: not saying that they assume it's not that bad. I'm saying, 111 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: if you're living check to check, right, and you don't 112 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: have savings, you can't just leave. You might have to 113 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 2: be like, well, I have to just hope it ain't 114 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 2: that bad. Like, I know, I can't just take off. 115 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: I can't just pack up what's going on down there? 116 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 2: Tell her. I can't just pack up a go bag 117 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: and fucking you know, dip out privilege like that, you know, 118 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: and you know, it's just when you don't have an 119 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: administration that you know it's organized and you feel like 120 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: some confidence in handling a disaster like this. You know, 121 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: he's just basically on the internet tweeting like it's a 122 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: live TV show, like he's live tweeting the hurricane. 123 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 5: He hadn't been there, he hadn't. It's just just just 124 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 5: terrible in this. And I guess because we actually lived 125 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 5: through Hurricane Hugo. Like I'm old enough to have lived 126 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 5: through Hurricane Hugo. I know it's not a game. I 127 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 5: know it's not a joke, and it could be very devastating. 128 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 5: You're talking about people that could be without power, food 129 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 5: and order for weeks, possibly months after this. 130 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Houston has horrible infrastructure apparently, but a lot 131 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: of cities do. A lot of America has horrible infrastructure. 132 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: These are the things that you know often get you 133 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 2: know a lot of times, these these are the things 134 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: that people cut, like the things that you know, Republicans especially, 135 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: but you know, just a lot of regulators, a lot 136 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: of city mayor city council, a lot of you know, 137 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 2: people that make budgets, they cut these things as if 138 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 2: they're not needed, as if they're not real. And it's like, well, 139 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: you do know that when when the time comes and 140 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: we need you know, the sewers to be able to 141 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: drain something like this, and we can't like this, this 142 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 2: is not This is from not preparing for years and 143 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: years and years and letting things deteriorate for years and 144 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: years and years, like that bridge fucked up in Atlanta 145 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: from that fire. 146 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, they tried. 147 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 2: Has anybody even heard any type of response to that 148 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: since then, Like, well, this is the kind we need 149 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: to invest in other bridges. We need to figure out 150 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: what's being stored everywhere else, We need to figure out 151 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: you know this like it was just like up freak accident. 152 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: That's it. 153 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: Let's ignore the structural problem. 154 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: Let's ignore you know the fact that even when Obama 155 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: was in office and he passed the infrastructure bill for 156 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: highways and bridges, he didn't get nearly as much as 157 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: he wanted to get because you had this pushback from 158 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: Republicans and people been like, don't spend that money. But 159 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: you know, these these are the lives and the things 160 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: that are affected by shit like that. 161 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 5: Right then, every year some article comes out excuse me, 162 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 5: and it's several of them. It talks about the infrastructure 163 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 5: of American rolls and American bridges and talk about how 164 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 5: some some bridges and rods haven't been repaired or properly replaced. 165 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: Some rolls and bridges literally be torn the. 166 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 5: Fuck down and rebuilt in like twenty thirty, forty fifty years. 167 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 5: And so you have these massive trucks, you have some 168 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 5: bridges that literally, statistically they count millions of cars traveling 169 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 5: to and from on these same bridges. And you patch, 170 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 5: you don't fix and repair, and that makes it difference. 171 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 5: Like you said, these are the things they cut because 172 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 5: it's not like you don't know it's goddamn hurricane season. 173 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 4: Everybody knows this. 174 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: You know. 175 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 5: It's not like you go where it can't hit here, 176 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 5: you don't know where the hurricane is gonna go. But 177 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 5: instead of them constantly preparing for this, like you say, 178 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 5: making it where you can easily evacuate out of the city, 179 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 5: making it where because Houston is huge, Houston, Houston is 180 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 5: wager than Charlotte. But it's one of those things. But 181 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 5: like a circle, you know, so ay, that's a lot 182 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 5: of people scattered around town that might not be able 183 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 5: to get to certain areas of town quickly without mass transit. 184 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 5: So you know, of course the hurricane, come guess what 185 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 5: the first thing shut down mass transit. So now you 186 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 5: have people that are stranded because they literally don't have vehicles, 187 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 5: don't have cars, and mass transit was. 188 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 4: They own a form of transportation. 189 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're relying on good Samaritans to go in and 190 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: help people, good Samaritans like, and there's people putting their 191 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 2: lives on the line to do this, like people are 192 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: shooting at them and ship and they're going in there 193 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: saving people's lives. It's you know, it's it's it's crazy, man, 194 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: But that's what it's come down to for a lot 195 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: of this stuff. So, you know, not to mention, a 196 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: lot of these Republicans voted against the Hurricane Sandy funds. 197 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 3: When it was. 198 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: Time for you know, after Sandy, you know, they were like, hey, 199 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: we need to be prepared for these disasters. And you know, 200 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: they was like, nah, fuck that shit. 201 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 5: Right, And you know, and the thing is a lot 202 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 5: of these because because Texas is Republican, now that that's 203 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 5: Republican center, that's where we get off. 204 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 4: Fucked up school books and all this other bullshit from 205 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 4: straight out of Texas. 206 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, he voted against Sandy, but he said he would 207 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: vote for Aid and Harvey. And you know that that 208 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: shit makes they will leave straight up like it's that 209 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: northern lear roll type you know, hit New York City 210 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: type hatred that they have, but it hits the South, 211 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: you know, a place that votes red in Texas, you know, 212 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 2: and then it's like, oh, we need to help them. 213 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 4: They actually need to help every fucking body. And it 214 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 4: frustrates me because. 215 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 5: When the people who have the least are actually helped, 216 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 5: it actually benefits. 217 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 4: Everybody as a whole. But people don't. You wouldn't like. 218 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 5: That because when people that have the least can at 219 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 5: least get quote unquote the bare minimum as far as food, 220 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 5: board and shelter, that's the bare minimum. 221 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 4: When they can't do that, these same. 222 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 5: People are gonna be like, well, why are they taking 223 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 5: from me? Why they robbing and stealing? I mean, because 224 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 5: it's human nature, you know, when you do that hierarchy thing, 225 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 5: that's kind of what happens when you don't meet people 226 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 5: based needs. Those are the outcomes, because that's human nature. 227 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 5: You're gonna get these things or you're gonna take these 228 00:10:58,559 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 5: things to supply those needs. 229 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 2: What do you mean, like looting or something or yeah, 230 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: I don't even know. I mean I have not paid 231 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: that much attention to the media coverage. I don't know 232 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: if looting is the argument people are having right now. 233 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: I mean, normally does fall into that, but I haven't 234 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: seen it so far. I've mostly just seen you know, 235 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: how enp the response has been and how a lot 236 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: of people are stranded. 237 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 5: You know. 238 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: The other thing is with social media now people are 239 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 2: being shamed in a way that you couldn't shame them before, 240 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: Like we even during Katrina, Like social media wasn't popping 241 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: like it is now, so you know, your president didn't 242 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: have to release a tweet you could respond back to him. 243 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 5: You know. 244 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: One of the reasons Kanye became like a lot of 245 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: black people's like pro black faith was because he said 246 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: George Bush doesn't care about. 247 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: Black people because of Katrina. 248 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: Correct, you know, so like but that was a cathartic 249 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: moment for a lot of people because we have been 250 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: saying and thinking that shit in our own circles, but 251 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: nobody was able to really express it until you know, 252 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 2: Kanye West said in this outburst on live TV, and 253 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: it's like, fuck, yes, thank you, you know so. 254 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 3: But this is different. 255 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: Now Trump is tweeting about a pardoning our pario and 256 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: people are like, people are drowning. What are you doing? 257 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: Like you know what I. 258 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: Mean, Like you're you're not handling this. You don't have 259 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: a president for you don't have a head of FEMA 260 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: right now. Like celebrity pastor Joe Ostein has drawn intense 261 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: criticism online for keeping his megachurch closed during Hurricane Harvey 262 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 2: and instead offering social media promises of prayers. 263 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been seeing that. They've been roasting the fuck 264 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 5: out of him. It's been people that are actually gone 265 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 5: up to the church and taking pictures outside. 266 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: They said the church was flooded, so people went to 267 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: the church and took pictures of it and was like, 268 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: it's not though. The Prosperity Gospel minister preaches at a 269 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: sixteen eight hundred seat arena at Lakewood Church near downtown Houston, 270 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: which has suffered severe flooding after the Hurricane May landfall 271 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: and then parked over the city. Olstein offers prayers in 272 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: a Saturday afternoon tweet, but his critics ask for more. 273 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: Victoria and I are praying for everyone affected by Hurricane Harvey. 274 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: Please join us as we pray for the safety of 275 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: our Texas family and friends. And then people responding that 276 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: are you gonna donate some of your millions of dollars? 277 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: They would help more than the prayer. Put your money 278 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 2: where your mouth is. He's been that fathomingly good to you. 279 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: Time to take it back. Literally, Hey Joe, you don't 280 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: have to beat Don't you have the biggest and richest church. 281 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: Why don't you open up the doors and the wallet 282 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: in the name of Jesus for the people. Olstein's church 283 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: cancel services Sunday, saying the building was inaccessible due to flooding, 284 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: and directed worshipers to a variety of release services. The 285 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 2: pastor and his wife living a ten point five million 286 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 2: dollar mansion in the River Oaks neighborhood, where residents and 287 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: their dogs were rescued from the rising waters, although it's 288 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: not clear whether Olstein's home stuffered any damage. A photo 289 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: posted early Sunday morning show heavy flooding about a block 290 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: away from the Lakewood Church, but olstein critics urged them 291 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: to open the doors to nearby flood victims. Why isn't 292 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 2: Joel's Joe Olstein's make the church in Houston, Texas not 293 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: open to the public and need a shelter, food and protection. 294 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: At Joe Austin, why aren't you helping people in Houston? 295 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 2: I'm sure you will sived enough money from them to 296 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: build that monstrosity of yours at Joe Austin, do open 297 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: up the church and open up your home. Come on, man, 298 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: it's easy to talk that shit, you know, and the 299 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: pulpit or whatever, to tell people what they need to 300 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: do and to ask for their money. 301 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 5: But he's one of those prosperity preachers too, and that's 302 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 5: a lot of people like, hey, Doug, you all about 303 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 5: this prosperity. 304 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 4: It's about sharing too, and it's one of the things. 305 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 5: When you look at it, you go, well, a lot 306 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 5: of these people in the community, like they said, have 307 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 5: been given been attending for years, like some of your 308 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 5: members have been affected by this, and you won't even 309 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 5: open up your church. 310 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: Well you know what, man, I mean one, he's an 311 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: easy target, correct, he said something on Twitter's asperity preacher. 312 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: People already don't fuck with you, correct, and especially since 313 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: you know so it's social media. What I say you 314 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: don't even gott to be from from the area. I 315 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: don't know anything about the geography of that area. I 316 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: don't know anything about the flooding over there. I don't 317 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: know about how accessible it is any of that shit. 318 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: It's easy to tweet at him fuck you and make 319 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: myself feel better. 320 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 4: Correct. 321 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 3: You know I haven't done anything with my fuck you. 322 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 4: No, No, I haven't. 323 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I haven't done anything with but I've 324 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: gotten to say it, you know what I'm saying. Like 325 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: if I say fuck you, I get to feel like 326 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: I'm on social media making a difference, you know, even 327 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: if it's not feasible for whatever the fuck reason. 328 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know what the liability. 329 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: That ship is to be honest to correct, Like if 330 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: somebody dies trying to get to your church because you 331 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: said the doors are open, come on through. Am I 332 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: held accountable for that ship. I don't know what the 333 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: rules are. The thing is. The thing is, though people 334 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: don't fuck with him already off the principle of his ship. 335 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 4: Correct when you're. 336 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: Calling his church of monstrosity, like, you're not a person 337 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: that fucks with him, period, You know what I mean? 338 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: If they get him up out of here. 339 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 3: I don't care. 340 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: I don't think it'll really matter. I don't think it'll 341 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: really help one way or the other. But I know, 342 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: like I said, I just know that we have social 343 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: media now, so you can get shamed for shit you 344 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: used to coldn't get shamed for. And yeah, those churches 345 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: like that a lot of times. They do take a 346 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: lot from the community for the passes to be rich 347 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: and all this shit, for them to ball and build 348 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: these you know, huge structures and all this shit. 349 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 3: Some of the. 350 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: Churches give back to the community, you know, like some 351 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: of them give you know, hey, we got sports leagues. 352 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: We end up with school better schools, We end up 353 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: with programs that help and give back to the community 354 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: and do community service and shit. I don't know the 355 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: logistics of anything dealing with his shit, to be honest, 356 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: but yeah, you're you're definitely gonna be a target. It 357 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: also wouldn't be a big deal out a big deal. 358 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: But it's also one of those things. If he would 359 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: have tweeted out, just gave a million dollars to this charity, 360 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: people still would have gotten his ass. 361 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: They don't like him, right. 362 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 2: It's that thing where there's not a word for it 363 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: because people always talk about like your fave, but there 364 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 2: has to be some equal, opposite word for your most 365 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 2: hated where people just it wouldn't matter if you fucking 366 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: gave money to a charity or not. People don't like 367 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: you so therefore it was the wrong thing to do, 368 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: Like like Lena Dunham or Amy Schumer whatever, there needs 369 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: to be a word for that. I don't know what 370 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 2: it is, but everybody's not fave or whatever the fuck 371 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: where you just be like it's like Lena Dunham saved 372 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 2: the baby. Fuck that bitch, you know what I'm saying, Like, 373 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: it's just is what it is. So I think a 374 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: lot of these prosperity dudes are all that shit. And yeah, 375 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: it's it's easy to it's your easy target. 376 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 3: This is different. 377 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: You can be shamed now that you couldn't be shamed before, 378 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: you know. So, yeah, I don't know. Maybe he's maybe 379 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 2: he'll help, maybe he won't question then becomes in that 380 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: community if the community feels that way about him, maybe 381 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: we'll see any attendance and whatnot, you know, but I 382 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 2: don't know. I just think it's easy to kind of 383 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 2: be online and you know, tweet about and talk talk 384 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: about it, but it's not really anything we can do 385 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: about it. 386 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 3: And there's this helplessness attached. 387 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: To it where even if you're giving money, even if 388 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: you're watching individual people take boats and shit in and there, 389 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: there's not an organized. 390 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 3: Effort to relieve that community. 391 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 2: And a lot of that goes to what the fuck 392 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: people did in November, not what people did yesterday. 393 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 5: And this would have been completely different, and it's been organized. Yeah, 394 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 5: you wouldn't have problems, but it had been more organized. 395 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: The other the last one I'll make on this is this, 396 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: This is why I would never be of a libertarian 397 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: and why I really don't trust them, and I count 398 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: libertarians as people that are essentially they're essentially enablers to 399 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 2: racism and shit correct because libertarian, you know, I remember 400 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: when God I can't remember his name right now, but 401 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: Paul Paul, not Paul Ryan, but Ron Paul. Ron Paul 402 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 2: gives a speech about how you know, during the debate, 403 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 2: he gives an answer to a question about health care, 404 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 2: and this thing was like, we should strip all government 405 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: forms of subsidized health care, whether it's through your job, 406 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 2: whether it's through you know, mandating through your job, whether 407 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 2: it's through universal health care or whatever. People should have 408 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: to pay and afford their own health care. And if 409 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,479 Speaker 2: someone goes to an emergency room, we shouldn't take that 410 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 2: person in and save their lives, like we should let 411 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: that person die. And people were like, well, how the 412 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: fuck are the people going to lit Like, if they 413 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: go to an emergency room, you're turned away sick people 414 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 2: who can't afford health care they're going to And he said, 415 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 2: we just need to let them die. And the other 416 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: thing he said, and what I believe will happened as 417 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: a libertarian, is that churches will step up and take 418 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 2: care of these people. And here's the thing. People clap 419 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 2: when he said let them die, and they and then 420 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: they clap with the idea of this, like you know, 421 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: Christian charity that was gonna happen throughout America, where all 422 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: of a sudden, churches was going to turn into hospitals 423 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: and start giving people free medical care. And all I'm 424 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 2: saying is this, one of these churches aren't prepared for that. 425 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: Two people aren't that good. Come on, people aren't that good. 426 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: They're not going to give up their resources unless they're 427 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: mandated to. People are the problem with all the shit 428 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: every you know, I feel really cynical sometimes, But all 429 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: the political processes, every stack, every type of economy, everything, 430 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 2: none of it's gonna work because people forever will be greedy, 431 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 2: selfish individuals, whether they go to a church or not. 432 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 2: They're gonna a lot of people of that church are 433 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: gonna be like, yeah, that was church, but in real life, 434 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 2: fuck that shit. I'm not giving up my shit for 435 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: your shit, but that. But the point being though people 436 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 2: acted like that was a feasible solution, well, to me, 437 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 2: this is a stuff like this is a good example 438 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: of a church. 439 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 3: Ain't gonna do that, you know what I mean? 440 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 2: Like Joe Olstein didn't feel no obligation to open up 441 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: his church and become. 442 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: Some different type of person because a disaster here. 443 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 2: He probably was thinking to himself, like, let me get 444 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: my family out of here, let me be sayd let 445 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 2: me close my doors. Hope we don't get flooded. Maybe 446 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 2: we can open up in a couple of weeks. Like 447 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: he's on some complete other shit. People expect them to 448 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: become Jesus, walk on water, brave the hurricane, open up 449 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: the doors to everybody, save everybody's life, and maybe some 450 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 2: churches will do stuff like that, but not every church 451 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: is gonna do that, and even the churches with the 452 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: most aren't gonna do that, cause that's like, like I said, 453 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 2: why I don't know the legitiate to the place. I mean, 454 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 2: if that church is the church that brings in all 455 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: the money there and there and there's not a presence 456 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: in this whatever going on right now, that tells you. 457 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 2: That does say something like you can't depend on the 458 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 2: church to do what the government needs to do the government. 459 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: You know, it's but it's easier to I guess it's 460 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: just easier to tweet about it because you know, people 461 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 2: are already mad at them and don't like them, and I 462 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 2: get it. I'm not saying they shouldn't be mad, but 463 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: that's the easiest thing to do, rather than to be like, yo, 464 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: we have failed as a country. 465 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 5: In this right, instead of being like, well, what the 466 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 5: fuck is the government supposed to do? I am goddamn 467 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 5: paying taxes. I shouldn't be out here surrounded by water. 468 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, I mean, and obviously it's a 469 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: natural disaster. Government can only do so much, correct, But 470 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: there's a thing but when it's not even organized, what 471 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: they supposed to do, and there's not even a head 472 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: of the organization. Like when the people that are in 473 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 2: charge vote against the funding to stop or to assist 474 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 2: in these disasters, what do you do? Well? You vote 475 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 2: their ass out is what you do. But I mean, 476 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: can we really depend on that in this country right now? 477 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 2: Let's see, Uh, let's get to some other stories. David 478 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 2: Letterman is making banks for his Netflix series. Ain't nobody 479 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: mad at him? 480 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 5: Uh? 481 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: David let Himan is said. 482 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 4: To make that's an old man. How old are you? Sixties? 483 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 4: Ain't six? Uh? 484 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: He's I don't know his exact age, but he's he's older. 485 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you can google it. But yeah, 486 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 2: he set up to make some serious cash for his 487 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: upcoming Netflix series. While nobody doubted that Netflix wrote a 488 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: big check for to lure Letterman out of retirement, the 489 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: amount he is getting for episodes likely to shock many, 490 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: both within and with and outside the industry itself. In fact, 491 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 2: he's making so much that it wouldn't be surprising to 492 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: learn that other talk show hosts engage in angry conversation 493 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 2: with the agents after after finding out letter in salary. Oh, 494 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: he's now seventy seventy year old Holts has been a 495 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: late night stable since signing to host Late Night with 496 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: David Letteriman back in nineteen eighty two, and he will 497 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 2: host Late Night until nineteen ninety three, the part of 498 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 2: the NBC. After losing out to Jay Leno and the 499 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: competition to s see the Tonight Show host Johnny Carson 500 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: at the network undeterred let him and hopped over the CBS, 501 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: created the Late Show franchise, and host the program until 502 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: his retirement in twenty fifteen, which was kind of scandalous. 503 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: I remember it was like some infidelity shit involved. Anyway, 504 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: as announced earlier this month, his retirement as soon the end, 505 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 2: as he's returning to host a new limited run talk 506 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: show on Netflix, and as yet untitled chat show is 507 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: currently set to run for six episodes, although presumably more 508 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 2: could be ordered if Netflix is pleased with the series 509 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: performance with subscribers. Apparently, he will be making two million 510 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: dollars per episode of the six episodes, money adding up 511 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: to twelve million dollars total, or season one of his 512 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: new show for six episodes if they will pay. I'm saying, 513 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: bring out of retirement too, if I was Dave Chapelle 514 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: and Chris Rock, I'd be like, hold up, now I 515 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: can do a show too. Oh but that's that's wild man. 516 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: But another reason that I'm not mad at Amy Schumer 517 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: for asking for her mother fucking coins, I don't know. 518 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 4: I don't know what the hell Justin was talking about at. 519 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 2: Least fave ship man. When people don't like you, they 520 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: just don't want to see it for you, no matter 521 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: if you're right or wrong. You know, so yeah you 522 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: can't Justin, Yeah, go get your get your motherfucking coins. 523 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: Who are the people that see that? Other people getting 524 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: paid more than them? And they'd be like it's cool, 525 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 2: like fucking let him in somewhere knocking that Bodak Yellow. 526 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 3: I don't got to dance. I make money moves. 527 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: Like he's making money moves over there with that motherfucking 528 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 2: two million a show, Like all the show is still 529 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 2: gonna be an hour, It's gonna still be forty minutes 530 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: of commercial, Like what is what's gonna be the deal 531 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: over there with Netflix? Like if I'm Netflix, I'm like, 532 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: you know, every show for hours now, I forgot to 533 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: tell you that part uh just one episode you're gonna 534 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 2: have to interview a week's work for people. We didn't. 535 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 2: We didn't tell you that this is actually for much 536 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: to film. But yeah he uh he. 537 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 3: Getting he don't gotta dance, he make money moves now. 538 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 5: Uh. 539 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: Speaking of Botak Yellow, apparently there's a teacher who rapped 540 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 2: a version. 541 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 3: Of Boatak Yellow for a map for her babies, for. 542 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: Her children's, for her for her students. And uh, let 543 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 2: me see if I can put it on screens so 544 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: yall can see it. Caren, you let me know fops 545 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 2: with on screen. You know you know how this shit does. 546 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I prot of her. Yeah, I've heard of Botak 547 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 4: yellow music. 548 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: No, it's it's a song by Cardi B Bow that Yellow, 549 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: and I played it before the show. 550 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 4: Because I'm like, I think i've heard of that person before. 551 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, not person is a song. Cardi B is the artist. 552 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: That yellow is a song. 553 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 4: Thank you. 554 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, you definitely heard it before. Uh anyway, 555 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: I thought rapper who knows it? 556 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 4: They all the same. 557 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're probably thinking of Kodak black, thank you. 558 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 6: Uh. 559 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: Anyway, here's the song. 560 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 7: This is a fucking Rennie heat up with It's not 561 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 7: Alzaba turning up to temperate chuck like ver Africa Honestly, 562 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 7: I'll just give you the data. It's the content Nika 563 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 7: that Asa gets home. 564 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 3: Someone just put on my Natica. 565 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 2: If I'm trying to check. 566 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 4: South end up at art o'cop yop, I might end 567 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 4: up in the. 568 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 7: America, north of the South United safe part of me 569 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 7: out in the belt temper the place, your safe thing. 570 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 2: But like, okay, we. 571 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 4: Like to beat, we like to pay, and. 572 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 3: We're the best history. 573 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: Listen. 574 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 5: I do. 575 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 3: I love being black. 576 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 4: I do too. 577 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 6: And because just the creativity, like and you have to 578 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 6: know your your children and your class and uh for 579 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 6: a lot of teachers, they love doing ship like this 580 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 6: because it's whatever it takes to get the children to 581 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 6: grasp the concept. 582 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 583 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: Also, I mean one that's engaging too. You can see 584 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: the kids are really you know, like dancing and. 585 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 4: They remember it too well. 586 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're having fun. They having fun learning something different, 587 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's using something in the kids' lives. 588 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: Because they all know Cardi B. They all know that song. 589 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 3: She laid the posted the lyrics. 590 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: Uh. And what she caused the exercise of meeting the 591 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: kids where they are and uh, yeah, I said, said, 592 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: you know you can you know you know. Wait, you 593 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: can know the globe if you wanted to. Seven continents, 594 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: five oceans, four hemispheres too. Come on, got three climate 595 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: zones polar, temperate and tropical and north southwest east. 596 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 3: Like my compass is cardinal. 597 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: Hey, I don't guess, and I know my longitude, said 598 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: I don't guess. 599 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know my latitude. 600 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: If you see me with a map, ask me how 601 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 2: I get to school, I'm gonna point out the direction. 602 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: Ain't gonna give you attitudes now, she murdered. Hey, it's 603 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: that's beautiful, man, seriously, Like. 604 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: That's so creative. 605 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: And like I said, man it his kids on two 606 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: different levels too, because you know, you have your creativity, 607 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: your music and stuff, and that's another thing that's fiers kids, 608 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: because like, hey, here's another way not just to learn, 609 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: but to create and teach and to pass down, you know. 610 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, I just that's just beautiful man. So yeah, 611 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: same as Erica Buddington. And yes, she said, the kids 612 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: in her class knew the words the very next day, 613 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: and the entire school now got logitude. 614 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 4: Come on the very next day, them kids, like I'm 615 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 4: gonna memorize this shit. 616 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: Come on, man, most Americans live paycheck to paycheck no shit, Yeah, guys, 617 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: most Americans live paycheck to paycheck no matter how much 618 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: you earn. Getting by still a struggle for most people 619 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: these days. Seventy eight percent of full time workers said 620 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: they live paycheck to paycheck, up to seventy five percent 621 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: last year, up from seventy five percent, according to recent 622 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: report for on career Builder. Overall, seventy one percent of 623 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: US workers said they are now in debt up to 624 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: sixty eight percent, which is up from sixty eight percent 625 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 2: a year ago, while forty six percent said their debt 626 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: is manageable for fifty six percent said they were in 627 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: over the head, and about fifty six percent also save 628 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars or less each month, according to career Builder. 629 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 2: The job hunting site polled about two thousand hiring and 630 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 2: human resource managers and more than three thousand full time. 631 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 3: Employees between May and June. 632 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: Most financial experts recommends stashing at least six months chit 633 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: you're in an emergency fund to cot the average. 634 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 4: Twenty million kids lack access to healthy. 635 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 5: Foods, which the average person can't do. Because I've heard 636 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 5: that before, and you're looking like, uh, nigga when I 637 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 5: got a conno, I got student loan debt, I got 638 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 5: bills to pay. I'm paying fucking all this fucking copaid 639 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 5: because insurance go up, but I'm not. 640 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 4: The coverage are still terrible. If I'm on any type 641 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 4: of medication, I'm paying for that shit too. 642 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 5: But people, for the realized, shit like this affect the economy. 643 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 5: A lot of people don't think it does. It affects 644 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 5: the economy. 645 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: You have to think. 646 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 5: When people live paycheck to paycheck, they're less likely to 647 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 5: get married, they're less likely to have children, they're less likely. 648 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 4: To buy homes that you know, or or you know 649 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 4: when they do go out to eat. 650 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 5: A lot of times, the shit they do, they put 651 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 5: it on credit, you know, versus actually paying for it, 652 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 5: and you know it's it's one of these things where 653 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 5: let's say you do go to a financial advisor. Guess 654 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 5: what I got to pay for this financial advisor to 655 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 5: tell me how to save my money. That's more money. 656 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 5: You know. Then you have a lot of jobs you 657 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 5: don't have the added benefit of full one K, and 658 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 5: they're getting ready to make it. They're trying to pass 659 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 5: a law wherever fucking tax you, pre tax you on 660 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 5: your full one k. Now, four one ks you get 661 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 5: tax on the back end they're trying to charge. They're 662 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 5: trying to tax people up front. So it's like, how 663 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 5: the fuck am I supposed to save? That was the 664 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 5: point of the four one k for me to put 665 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 5: money in here tax free for uh, so I can 666 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 5: retire out of it. 667 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 4: It's like you can't win. It's like I'm trying to 668 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 4: plan for my future and you're gonna fuck that too. 669 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 670 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: It reminds me of that episode of Atlanta with the 671 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 2: Sword where Aaron was gonna go and put his phone, 672 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: uh and sell his phone so you have some money 673 00:32:51,240 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 2: and fuck what, let's look. Lakeith Stanfield character was like, look, 674 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: let's trade. Let's take this sword. I know where we 675 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: could trade this sword inn and you know I can 676 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 2: get you too. Instead of one hundred dollars, you can 677 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 2: get two thousand dollars by the end of the day. 678 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 2: And so you know, Earn takes them up on it. 679 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 2: They of course trade the sword for like a I 680 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: think it's a special type of dog or some shit, 681 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 2: and then they trade the dog to a person that's 682 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: gonna breed the dog. 683 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 3: The dog's gonna get him puppies and then the puppies. 684 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: Will be worth a whole lot of money each and 685 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: then they'll get like two thousand dollars instead of two 686 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: hundred dollars. But Earn is completely disappointed and dejected at 687 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: the end of the episode because he's like, dude, I 688 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: don't know what you think, but I can't afford to 689 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: wait a few months to get a return of my investment. 690 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 2: And he was like, I don't have the time right 691 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 2: for a time, And that was like a deep to me. 692 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: It was just like a deep moment because it's like, yes, 693 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 2: poor people don't have the time for a time to 694 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: develop been prosper you know. It's like how you know 695 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: Jay Z on his album is like, you know, I 696 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: got this art and I invested in I got this 697 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 2: and this and this, but it's like, well do you 698 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: have I don't have a million dollars about the art 699 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 2: piece in the first place. I don't have the two 700 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: to four years to eight years necessarily to wait for 701 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: that to come through, Like it's a luxury to have. 702 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: That doesn't mean that his advice is bad. It's just 703 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 2: not gonna fit everybody, you know, correct, But yeah, it's 704 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 2: that thing like a financial planner would be like a 705 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: save six months of salary. 706 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 4: It's like when I'm making ten tho an hour. 707 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, I what am I supposed to live in? 708 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 2: What am I supposed to eat? What am I supposed 709 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 2: to do? You know what I mean? 710 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 3: Like, it's a lot to it. 711 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 5: You know. 712 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 2: Also, I think a lot of times the advice a 713 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 2: lot of people get financially, they don't realize how much 714 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 2: of an impact race has on that advice because you know, 715 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: we I don't know how many studies and surveys and 716 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 2: shit we've read. Let just tell you, like generational wealth, 717 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 2: it's just simply not the same for black people. 718 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 3: Even if you do everything that they quote unquote. 719 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 2: Tell you to do, your worth, your worth is never 720 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: gonna be on par with somebody whose family got a 721 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 2: two hundred, three hundred, four hundred year head start on yours. 722 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 2: So the advice would need to vary per person, but 723 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 2: it never really does that. 724 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 5: And also you have to think when you say generational wealth, 725 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 5: a lot of times, a lot of white people, especially 726 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 5: wealthy white people, they are what they are because somebody 727 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 5: invested into like. 728 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 2: Like, well that's what I just said, that's what I'm saying, like, 729 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 2: even if you factor in, because it's not I'm not 730 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 2: even talking about wealthy white people, talking about your average 731 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 2: your white dude that works the subway, his net worth 732 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 2: is going to be different because he has a generations 733 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 2: of people that have owned things. Ownership is everything, Yes. 734 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 5: It is. 735 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 3: You own, your family may have owned some land. 736 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 2: Like people take this shit for granted, like oh yeah, 737 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: you know, my grandpa owes some of It's like, yeah, 738 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 2: that's a privilege in this country. Everybody's not allowed to own. 739 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: White men were the only people that are allowed to 740 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 2: own for a long time. Come you know, so yeah, 741 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: it's it's very uh you know, but I mean, I'm 742 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 2: not saying anything that people don't know. I just I 743 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 2: just wish people would take some. 744 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 3: Of the shame out of you. 745 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 2: Broke nigga, you can't afford this and stuff like that, 746 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 2: you know, because a lot of people are just you're 747 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 2: the average quote unquote broke person is living a more 748 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 2: normal existence than the people that really think they have 749 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: it all together. And even in this case, even though 750 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 2: it's making over six figures said they struggle to make 751 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 2: ends meet, Nearly one in ten of those making one 752 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars or more said they usually are always 753 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 2: let paycheck to paycheck, and fifty nine percent of. 754 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 3: Those and that Sally Rain said, they were in the red. 755 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 5: Right because a lot of times more money means you 756 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 5: just purchase more things, you go into a lot more 757 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 5: debt because you have more income, and you know, a 758 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 5: lot of times the bulk of that money and don't 759 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 5: we talk about it is too long debt. 760 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 4: You know, a lot of times people know you get. 761 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 5: Hired, not all the time you get hired a payer 762 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 5: of job, you probably have invested. 763 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 4: Some money in some form of a degree. Not all 764 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 4: the time, but most of the time it's some form 765 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 4: of a degree. 766 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 5: Which is actually debt that you have to end up 767 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 5: paying in the long run. And so it's just one 768 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 5: of those things where regardless of where your latter is 769 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 5: struggling from paycheck to paycheck, it's still struggling for paycheck 770 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 5: to paycheck. 771 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 2: You know that. I mean it takes that to get 772 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 2: money right. You know, in a lot of cases, even 773 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 2: if it's like a house, you're gonna be under in 774 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,439 Speaker 2: the house for a long time until you start turning 775 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 2: it around. Like you know more, youg just be thirty 776 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 2: forty years. Sometimes you know that that means it's gonna 777 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 2: take that long for that house to truly be your asset, 778 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 2: not to mention. A lot of times we call stuff 779 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 2: like refinancing, like we don't talk about how that's actually 780 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 2: putting yourself back in debt. Sometimes you know, so, yes, 781 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 2: you know ownership is a lot man assence only sex 782 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 2: education programs violate human rights and do nothing to prevent 783 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,720 Speaker 2: risky sexual behavior, health officials claim in a damning new report. 784 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 2: I agree public health officials are sl abstinence only sexual 785 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 2: education programs, as new research shows they are doing nothing 786 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 2: to prevent teams from risky sexual behavior. Two major reports 787 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 2: published Tuesdays show that sexual education classes that teach abstinence 788 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 2: only are ineffective as they neither delay the average age 789 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 2: of first sexual account nor reduced risky sexual behaviors. Additionally, 790 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 2: they violate teenagers human rights while withholding medically accurate information 791 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 2: and stigmatizing and excluding a number of use, reinforcing harmful 792 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 2: gender stereotypes, and undermined public health programs. 793 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 4: Come on, they're making their job harder. 794 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 2: These programs have been for years been widely rejected by 795 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 2: health professionals who care for young people, such as a 796 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 2: Society of Adolescent Health and medicine. In contrast to comprehensive programs, 797 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 2: have more favorable effects on teenage sexual behaviors, including the 798 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 2: age of sexual initiation, number of partners, frequency of unprotected 799 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 2: sexual activity, and the numbers of both pregnancies and STIs. 800 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 2: These comprehensive programs help young people of staying from sex 801 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 2: and partaking sexually intelligent behaviors, while astinence only programs do neither. 802 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 2: Two scientific review papers published simultaneously in the Journal of 803 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 2: Adolescent Health looked at the current US policies on assinens 804 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,959 Speaker 2: only until marriage programs. The way of scientific evidence shows 805 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 2: these programs do nothing to help young people to lay 806 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,879 Speaker 2: in an initiation of sexual intercourse, said the co author, 807 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 2: doctor Sent Telly, Professor of Population and Family Health and 808 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 2: at the Male Man School of Public Health. While ASKINS 809 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 2: is theoretically effective and actual practice intentions to abstain from 810 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 2: sexual activity often fail, these programs simply do not prepare 811 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 2: young people to avoid unwanted pregnancies or STIs. One of 812 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 2: the things that I find interesting about this is this 813 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 2: is how we treat prison, is how we treat education 814 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 2: in general. This is fear. 815 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 3: This is emotional fear and emotional this is an emotional. 816 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 2: Logic of if I scare my kids out of bad behaviors, 817 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 2: they won't do it. If I scare a person, if 818 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 2: I scare a person out of criminal behavior, they won't 819 00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 2: do it. 820 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 3: And it never attacked the underlying issue. And that's why 821 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 3: it's not effective. 822 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 2: That's why the death penalty doesn't stop people from committing 823 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 2: crimes that get the death penalty. You know, like that's 824 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 2: not how the human brain works. You know, the human 825 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,760 Speaker 2: brain is like one. If you don't educate your brain, 826 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 2: you're gonna have less information with which to make decisions. So, 827 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 2: like a lot of this stuff is about making the 828 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 2: people that not the people in the program, the people 829 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 2: outside the program feel comfortable. So now parents feel comfortable 830 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 2: if their kids go to a school where they're told 831 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 2: just don't have sex, right because their parents have an 832 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 2: irrational because of their kid. They're irrational, they're not being 833 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,399 Speaker 2: logical about it. In many cases, it's I just don't 834 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 2: want to deal with the inevitable uncomfortableness of my child 835 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 2: having sex if they can at least not have sex 836 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 2: for eighteen years hopefully all the way out of college 837 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 2: or whatever thing like, until they find a person they 838 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 2: are going to marry. Then they will have sex for 839 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 2: the purposes of procreation only. And that's my dream for 840 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 2: my child. And it's a very unrealistic, puritanical, often tied 841 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 2: up in some religion bullshit dream, and it's stupid and 842 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 2: it's it's really undercutting these kids before they can even 843 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 2: get a chance, because everybody has that story of the 844 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 2: kids in theigyhood that was in the super religious parents 845 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 2: house and they get pregnant, or they get to college 846 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 2: and they're the biggest freak, or they get some std 847 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 2: or something like that, and it's all because of this 848 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 2: repression because they don't know shit, and when they get 849 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 2: introduced to anything, it's just they go overboard with it. 850 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 2: You know. These are the kind of things where I think, honestly, 851 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,800 Speaker 2: talking to your kid and telling them the reality of 852 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 2: things is the only solution when it comes to something 853 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 2: this important, same thing with drugs, like and. 854 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 4: They make a more educated decision because the thing is, 855 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 4: you want your child. 856 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 5: You know that you can't watch your child all the time. 857 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 5: That's got them impossible. All you can say is I 858 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 5: would for you not to. But if you're going to, 859 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 5: please make the most educated decision. Don't go out there 860 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 5: being blindsided, and don't go out there doing anything that 861 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,240 Speaker 5: you don't want to do with your body. 862 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people, it's a lot of essinist 863 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 2: babies walking around right now, a lot of them, you know, 864 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 2: some of them listening to this right now. Thought y'all. 865 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 2: You know, like it's just it's what it is, man like. 866 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, if you can be educated, at least you 867 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 2: can make. 868 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 5: A better decision, right and now to go to talking 869 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 5: when you're talking about like drugs and things like that, 870 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,959 Speaker 5: My mama didn't talk to me about that. My mama 871 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 5: talked to me about that. I was in college, and 872 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 5: it was a simple conversation like are you on dogs? 873 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 2: No? 874 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 4: You know, I could have been lying. I wasn't, but 875 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 4: I could have been lying. 876 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 5: You know by the time I'm doin to something that's 877 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 5: too old to be talking to me about drugs if 878 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 5: I'm doing something i've been doing anybody. 879 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:58,439 Speaker 2: In Yeah, Like like I said, man, it's you're really 880 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 2: putting your kids in a bad place when you. 881 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 5: Do that, right, because it's not about because I think 882 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 5: a lot of parents are so because they a lot 883 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 5: of parents got an awkward conversation and talk, so they 884 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 5: feel awkward and weird about it, and they don't want 885 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 5: to talk to their children because they feel quote unquote 886 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 5: is awkward and weird. And no matter how much your 887 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 5: children roll their eyes, no matter how much they smect 888 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 5: their lives, no matter how much they look at you, 889 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 5: saw as they are listening, y'all, they are truly listening. 890 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 5: Your child is very, very intelligent. Don't underestimate the intelligence 891 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 5: of your child. 892 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 2: Six current and former female employees of the iconic Plaza 893 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 2: hotel in New York are suing the New York City 894 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 2: Landmark alleging and court documents filed Tuesday, that while working 895 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 2: at the hotel they were subject to outrageous and incessant 896 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 2: sexual harassment and assault by senior management and male counterparts. 897 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 2: I believe them too, as it's never in the nightmare 898 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 2: of Dana Lewis, a current employee of Plaza, tool ABC News. 899 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 3: I have the right to just go to work and 900 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 3: do my job. 901 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 2: There's no excuse for any of it. Lewis said that 902 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 2: she was excited when she first got the job at 903 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 2: the more than a century old hotel, which was highlighted 904 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,280 Speaker 2: in movies such as Elouise at the Plaza at Home Alone. 905 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 2: It's a place that I dreamed about visiting as a child, 906 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 2: Lewis added. She said the unwanted advances began happening within 907 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 2: days of when she started working at the hotel in 908 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 2: November twenty sixteen. I tried to ignore it at first, 909 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 2: hoping that it would stop, Lewis said, the sexual misconduct 910 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 2: from her colleagues became a part of the job. Asked 911 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 2: why she would not leave, she said, I'm a single mother. 912 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 2: I have a ten year old daughter. I felt like 913 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 2: I didn't have much choice. I needed the job. Lewis, 914 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 2: a hospitality coordinator, will return to work just days after 915 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 2: filed in the lawsuit. She said she felt nervous about it, 916 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 2: but that the environment couldn't be any worse than what 917 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 2: it already was. Krystal Washington, also a current employee at 918 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 2: the hotel, allegens in a lawsuit the managers did nothing 919 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 2: after she complained about sexual harassment from colleagues, and the 920 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 2: human resource department refused to investigate. Washington told the ABC 921 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 2: News this just fostered an environment where the harassment continued. 922 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 2: Tell the ABC News or her harassments that when they're 923 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 2: not properly reprimented, then they will they will continue with 924 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 2: their behavior. Leaving was not an option for me. I 925 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 2: feel like they should leave, not me, she said, I 926 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 2: haven't done anything wrong. She said she's hoping for some 927 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 2: sort of justice to come out of lawsuit applies to 928 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,240 Speaker 2: hotels parent company, Fairmount Hotels or Resourts denied the claims 929 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 2: that sexual rascal allegations were ignored, telling ABC News and 930 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 2: statement that the safety of welfare of our guess and 931 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 2: staff is always blah blah blah. 932 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 4: I don't believe you. 933 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, they of course take all these claims seriously because Baba. 934 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,359 Speaker 5: The doo dude, if y'all did, you wouldn't be having 935 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 5: these women talking about and it's multiple women too, You 936 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 5: wouldn't have these multiple women And these are just some 937 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,320 Speaker 5: of the more currents. Could you imagine a lot of 938 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 5: women over the years that have quit and it won't 939 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,479 Speaker 5: come out and won't say nothing. 940 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,240 Speaker 4: Over the years, you have created an atmosphere of this, right. 941 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 2: Yep. So when you have a you have a president 942 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 2: who talks about grabbing pussies, come on, dog, you know 943 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure. I'm sure sexual harassment shit has been involved 944 00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 2: in this country as well, you sir, All right, let's 945 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 2: see what else do I want to talk about? Oh 946 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 2: all right, let's do this segment. Stuff is music? Take time, 947 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 2: take your time. Yeah, anybody that's ever had a job, 948 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 2: especially when you don't make a lot of money, if 949 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 2: you're a woman, that seemed like part of the course. 950 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 2: Like it was always weird when I had jobs where 951 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 2: I didn't you know, minimum ways type jobs, because I 952 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 2: worked several places when these uh McDonald's piece of hud 953 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 2: for a little bit, Like I work these jobs, you know, 954 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 2: and and it's like you just don't have rights. 955 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 4: No, you don't know. 956 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 2: Customers can talk to you any old way. Managers talk 957 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 2: to people any way. Often managers be trying to fuck 958 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 2: the employees and ship. 959 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 5: Long dog, they be getting high lots. I've seen him 960 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 5: getting high from the job. 961 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 2: Right, I work with I work with people that did 962 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 2: crack and ship. It would come to work high as fun. 963 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 2: Like I just like you just kind of see it 964 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 2: all and it's just kind of accepted. It's like this 965 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 2: isn't a real workplace because no one here makes money 966 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 2: and nobody outside these doors has any respect for you either, 967 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,760 Speaker 2: and the company doesn't respect you and they don't expect 968 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,399 Speaker 2: you to respect yourself. And you know, there was also 969 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 2: situations where it was like, to a certain extent, it 970 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 2: was a little bit playful. So it's almost like you're 971 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 2: having fun in a job that because you can. It 972 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 2: fits a lot of personalities that it's not professional and 973 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 2: they probably wouldn't make it a professional environment acting that way. 974 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 3: So there, you know, there's people that. 975 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 2: Are like fucking in a break room or flirting with 976 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 2: each other or whatnot. You know, I just I was 977 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 2: always in a relationship, so I just never really got involved. 978 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 3: In that kind of shit. 979 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 2: But you know, I remember there was you know, people 980 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 2: would do shit like grab each other's ass and shit, 981 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 2: and it was just ha. And you know, as an 982 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,280 Speaker 2: adult now looking back, you're like that that was sexual. 983 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 2: She could have fouled a lawsuit that you know. I 984 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 2: remember one time somebody, uh there was like this Brazilian 985 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 2: girl who worked there for a little bit and she 986 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,240 Speaker 2: was the I want to say she was the girlfriend 987 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 2: of a manager at some point. I don't know if 988 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 2: she was. I don't know what the deal was with 989 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 2: that because I stayed out of people business, but I know, 990 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 2: like people were talking about they went together at some point, 991 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 2: but I remember she grabbed my ass and the breakthrough 992 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 2: one time as like a quote unquote joke, and I 993 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 2: was like, hey, man, call him that, like cut that, 994 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 2: cut that ship out, you know what I mean, Like 995 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 2: we at work, what you doing? And after I remember 996 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 2: after that, that manager that may have been may or 997 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 2: may not have been dating her was a dick to me, 998 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 2: like I didn't do shit, you know what I mean. 999 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 2: I never say anything back, right, like I never did 1000 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 2: anything to her and never say anything back. I never 1001 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 2: flirted back any of that shit. I just like, I'm like, hey, 1002 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 2: all right, now, let's let's cut that ship out. I 1003 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 2: don't do that stuff to y'all. You know, let's let's 1004 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 2: let's let's just work, you know what I mean. But 1005 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 2: you know, and at that point, I had been an 1006 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 2: intern at a professional company for three or four years, 1007 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 2: so to me, this environment, it was like, hey, like 1008 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 2: I understand that you can still get fucked up, and 1009 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,320 Speaker 2: it's a ie hop in your ass gonna be you know, 1010 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 2: up if somebody off of getting fired playing grab ass 1011 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 2: and shit. 1012 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 3: But you know, I remember that kind of shit. Man, 1013 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 3: It's just it's fucked up. 1014 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, it really is, because you know, now that I 1015 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 5: go back and think about it, you go, yeah, it 1016 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:25,439 Speaker 5: was some really really fucked up and very unprofessional atmosphere. 1017 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 5: And you know the thing about a lot of time, 1018 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 5: at a lot of the SEVERER job, I was the 1019 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 5: type of person that I. 1020 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 4: Never wanted management job. 1021 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 5: A lot of times I would get offered it because 1022 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 5: I would be the person wiping down the high chests, 1023 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,759 Speaker 5: cleaning up my booth, cleaning up my section. Whenever it 1024 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 5: was slow, I always found something fucking to do by myself. 1025 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 4: So I was never involved in any of that mess. 1026 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 4: I was like, no, no, no, no, no. What I'm 1027 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 4: not gonna do is get caught up in some bullshit. 1028 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so all right, got my music up. Let's 1029 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 2: do some fuck with black people. We're just fucking with 1030 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 2: those black people. We're just fucking with those blacks. We're 1031 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 2: just fucking with fucking with black people. That's right, guys. 1032 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 2: Time to play the game, and we all hate to play. 1033 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 2: It's fucking with black people. The game. We go all 1034 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 2: around to go, we find different articles make us feel 1035 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,359 Speaker 2: fuck with the will Sime points Zelo Hunger in twenty 1036 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 2: five for how much we feel fucking with the black people. 1037 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 2: Today's contestants, everybody, let's see where to start. There's some 1038 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 2: there's a lot of them today. Oh. Leaked chats show 1039 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 2: that the Charlottesville marchers were actually planning for violence. 1040 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 3: No shit, you don't say, well, slap my ass and call. 1041 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 2: Me susane A. Uh yeah. Well, before the white Nationalists 1042 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 2: Unite the Right demonstration turned deadly in charlotteviel this month, 1043 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 2: attendees were planning for violence. According to the leaked th 1044 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 2: online chats and private chat channels, they shared advice on 1045 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 2: vehicles and tactics, including repeatedly broaching the idea of driving 1046 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 2: vehicles through opposition crowds. After the vehicular attack which killed 1047 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 2: the counter protests that head, the higher higher users of 1048 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:23,879 Speaker 2: the channel celebrated the event. 1049 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:25,399 Speaker 4: I believe that too. 1050 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 2: What is this? Don't play? 1051 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 3: But yeah. 1052 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 2: The discussions took place on a private channel created using discord, 1053 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,760 Speaker 2: a service primarily intended for gamers. Hundreds of screen shots 1054 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 2: for the exchanges. 1055 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 5: For the lease gamers, I said online and I meant 1056 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 5: this alright, Nazi? Uh? 1057 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 4: What is alright? Nazi gamer Gate? And it was one 1058 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 4: more group. Oh, white supremacists is all the goddamn same 1059 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 4: to me, all races. 1060 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 3: Can you believe I had that? 1061 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 2: If you guys have mediums, if you have blackout Test Premium. 1062 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 2: And there's an episode the Medium Talk where there was 1063 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 2: a guy who claimed to listen to our show and 1064 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,439 Speaker 2: he also was a member of this like gamer Gate shit. 1065 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 2: He was a black dude. He wasn't even from the 1066 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 2: United States, he was from somewhere else. But he called, 1067 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 2: you know, I told him after he was going back 1068 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 2: and forth with me, just sounding senseless, sending me links 1069 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 2: and pictures that didn't make sense, that didn't add up. 1070 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,319 Speaker 3: And I told him, look calling and we'll talk about this. 1071 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,879 Speaker 2: Gamer Gate shit on the show, Like you know, we'll talk, 1072 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 2: I'll record it, we'll talk about it on Skype. 1073 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 3: Because I don't understand you. You're clearly not listening to me. 1074 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Medium six, Medium Talk twenty six gamer Gate and yeah, man, 1075 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,760 Speaker 2: Like he was a black dude, And I was shocked 1076 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 2: because to me, I'm like, those white people don't like 1077 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 2: your black ass either. All that shit is the same 1078 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 2: to me, Gamergate, Like you said, white nationalists, white supremacist 1079 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 2: the all right, all that shit. They all use the 1080 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 2: same like we hate the PC, and then they fucking 1081 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 2: sit around and they vilify people and they talk badly 1082 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 2: about people and black people and shit and tell you 1083 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,319 Speaker 2: PC mafia type shit. I'm like, Dawn, they talking about 1084 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 2: your black ass too. But some people, really, you know, 1085 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 2: they just can't see it and it doesn't and they 1086 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 2: think all of this shit that I'm about to read 1087 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 2: or all these pictures, they think this is all like 1088 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,359 Speaker 2: some type of weird like frame job. 1089 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 3: Like, no, we're not. 1090 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 2: Really like that. We just the media painting us. Like 1091 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 2: it's like y'all are nobody. When y'all call the officers 1092 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 2: of these gaming companies and make them have to fire 1093 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,359 Speaker 2: employees or you won't stop harassing them, that is y'all. 1094 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,359 Speaker 2: You don't get to not be that. And it's about 1095 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,800 Speaker 2: ethics and gaming, like but only when women talk about it, 1096 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 2: only when black people talk about it, Like how is 1097 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 2: it about ethics then? Anyway? 1098 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:56,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1099 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 2: While much of the discussion centered on flags, chants and 1100 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 2: other forms of speak each, the leaked exchanges also included 1101 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 2: advice on weapon construction. You want something designed for longitudinal stress, 1102 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 2: wrote one poster. Three whacks of that thing and that 1103 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,960 Speaker 2: thing is breaking. Other topics included body armor and shield design. 1104 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:22,399 Speaker 2: Users also shared memes alluding to using vehicles against opponents. Well, 1105 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,800 Speaker 2: there's no indication that James alex Fils The driving a 1106 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 2: carter killed higher and injured more than a dozen others 1107 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 2: was part of this discussion, but this act was celebrated 1108 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 2: and defended by the users, including some who edited images 1109 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 2: of the carnage into means that were intended to be humorous. 1110 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,800 Speaker 2: Organizers of the event told Wired that the Elite chats 1111 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 2: appeared authentic, but emphasized that they have repeatedly urged nonviolence. Nonetheless, 1112 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 2: a lawyer for two women injured in Charlottesville said that 1113 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 2: the leak chats could form the crux of the case 1114 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:55,319 Speaker 2: because they demonstrate a desire for violence. Yep, deer twe 1115 00:54:55,400 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 2: hundred oh one hundred. A Texas man who was saved 1116 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 2: by black MMA fighter from the flood insisted on saving 1117 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:19,400 Speaker 2: his Confederate flag heritage. Guys, you guys know how it is. 1118 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,479 Speaker 2: You gotta have your flag. I mean, what you're gonna 1119 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 2: do if you don't have a flag? Guys, you gonna 1120 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 2: take it in. 1121 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 4: Poke a hole in that boat and we all drown. 1122 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 2: Cage fighter Derek Lewis detailed the devastation in Houston, where 1123 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 2: he says he had been doing alli hood to help 1124 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 2: people get the safety, include one man who refused to 1125 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,440 Speaker 2: leave his Confederate flag behind. Lewis, who goes by the 1126 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 2: ring named the Black Beast, and that's probably what that 1127 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 2: dude called him. He said he was suffering the ill 1128 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 2: effects of waiting through waste deep water, but that people 1129 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,720 Speaker 2: need help and he's doing all he can. I've always 1130 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,840 Speaker 2: been that type of guy. I like to help people 1131 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,840 Speaker 2: more than I like to help myself, the Houston resident explain, 1132 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,360 Speaker 2: and so I just seized the opportunity. The police, they 1133 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,719 Speaker 2: kept getting on the news, is saying that they're not 1134 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:02,760 Speaker 2: going on let's. 1135 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 4: Know, man, what's going on down there too. 1136 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 2: Damn stop doing that. They're not gonna help no one 1137 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 2: unless it's a life of death situation. Basically, the firefighter 1138 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 2: said the same thing, and mostly we're trying to get 1139 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 2: all the families that have kids. Louis said he had 1140 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,359 Speaker 2: been responding to Facebook please for help rescuing families using 1141 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 2: his oversized truck, including one man who needed to save 1142 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 2: his rebel flag. I picked up one guy's family his wife. 1143 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 2: He just kept apologizing to me because all he really 1144 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 2: had was his clothes. Anyone takes the federal flag, Louis recalled, 1145 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 2: he wanted. 1146 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 3: To take that with him. 1147 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 2: He just apologized, said, man, I'll sit in the back 1148 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 2: of your truck. Man, I don't want to have my 1149 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 2: flag inside the truck like this. I said, Man, I'm 1150 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 2: not worried about that. He's saying, you never know if 1151 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 2: you ever need someone, so I already knew what he 1152 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,319 Speaker 2: was going to go on with. He said, I don't 1153 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,360 Speaker 2: even worry about it. It's okay. I don't care about that. 1154 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 2: His wife kept hitting him and saying you should have 1155 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,319 Speaker 2: just left it. Louis said he wasn't just made, adding 1156 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,279 Speaker 2: I live in Texas. Ain't nothing new. I've been living 1157 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 2: in the South all of my life. It ain't nothing, 1158 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 2: and I hadn't seen before I discussed about I don't 1159 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 2: care about that type of stuff. I just wanted to 1160 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 2: help him. 1161 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 3: Betta is lucky, lucky it was that dude and not 1162 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 3: some other. 1163 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 4: Dude, because yeah, they got the right one. 1164 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,880 Speaker 2: My black ass would have been like, oh, so, I 1165 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,440 Speaker 2: guess some of y'all don't want to get in the truck. 1166 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 2: Because the flag not coming. I don't know no to 1167 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 2: tell you. Dog U zero to a hunter can zero 1168 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 2: for him helping That actually gave me a hundred while 1169 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 2: I'm saving your life. You don't even have a motherfucking 1170 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,960 Speaker 2: d c to be like, let me lead this thing 1171 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 2: that I know offends you in my house. You know, 1172 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 2: if a Jewish person stowed up, could you go grab 1173 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 2: your swastika real quick, because it's the same goddamn thing 1174 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 2: to me. Oh and I and I'm from the South 1175 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 2: and I've seen him my whole life, and I do 1176 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 2: care about that ship. You just ran into the right 1177 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 2: digga dog, that's all that came to. Came ran to 1178 00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 2: the right one. A video shows a man shooting at 1179 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 2: a crowd during Charlottesville rally with no police response. No shit, yup. 1180 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 2: Man attending the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, earlier 1181 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 2: this month fired his gun the direction of a black 1182 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,360 Speaker 2: counter protester who was holding the torch. The police have 1183 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 2: never said he did not see the respond. Those events 1184 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 2: appear in the video, filmed two weeks ago by a 1185 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 2: volunteer with the American Civil Liberty Reginnion of Virginia. Published 1186 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 2: by the Civil Rights Group on Saturday, and seeing the 1187 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 2: footage below. The man in the blue sleeveless shirt, a 1188 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 2: green vest, and a bandana on his head pulls out 1189 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,560 Speaker 2: a gun and aims at a counter protester. It was 1190 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 2: off camera and appears to be holding to make sure 1191 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 2: of lit torch. The first man appears to yellow racial slur. 1192 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,640 Speaker 2: The black man then fires a gun toward the ground 1193 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 2: and the direction of the counter protesters. The shooter then 1194 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 2: leaves the scene by joining a line of white supremacists 1195 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 2: protesters and walking past law enforcement officers who were standing 1196 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,720 Speaker 2: behind the metal barricades about ten feet away. Could you 1197 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 2: imagine this at a Black Lives batter rally? Could you 1198 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 2: imagine this at any of the protests that break out out? 1199 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 2: The cops shoot a black person, and I mean in 1200 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 2: Charlotte Date that op shot a dude in the face 1201 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 2: or you know, some type of shit. Somebody got shot 1202 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 2: and motherfuckers got arrested that night. I just can't imagine this. 1203 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 1204 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, later later on. 1205 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,640 Speaker 2: Police arrested which Richard Wilson Preston fifty two in connection 1206 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,440 Speaker 2: with the incident in the video above. The Daily Progress 1207 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 2: report on Saturday said Wilson was charged with the charging 1208 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,320 Speaker 2: the firearm within a thousand feet of a school during 1209 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 2: the so called Unite the Right. Oh so it's the school, 1210 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:32,920 Speaker 2: not attempted murder, not shooting at people, exciting violence and 1211 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 2: the riot or anything, just shooting too close to the school. Huh, 1212 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,480 Speaker 2: Rosier Parker, Charlotteville. 1213 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 4: The white kids might hit the little white kids right 1214 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 4: that weren't there that day? 1215 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 2: Right? 1216 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 4: Did you actually don't give a fuck about because you know, 1217 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 4: a whole bunch of them died. 1218 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,720 Speaker 5: Nobody told you know, I don't know if you heard, 1219 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 5: but the whole bunch died in elementary school and nobody here. 1220 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 2: Rosie of Parker, Charlottesville, activist who was there when the 1221 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 2: man fires gun, told The New York Times that police 1222 00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 2: did nothing when shooting the curb. We all heard it 1223 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 2: and ran, I know, damn well, they heard it, Parker 1224 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 2: told the Times. Represent the police who was standing behind 1225 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:07,800 Speaker 2: the barricades. Korean Geller, a spokeswoman for the Virginia State Police, 1226 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 2: told the newspaper troopers did not reacted to the shooting 1227 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 2: because they couldn't hear the gun being fired over the 1228 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 2: loud volume of the crowd. Yelling and chanting, drums and music. 1229 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,920 Speaker 4: You know the sound of a gun shooting. 1230 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 2: Ten feet away. Now the people you shot at now 1231 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 2: to run? They was ten feet away too? Well, somebody line, 1232 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 2: it's all I know. Somebody asked his line zeal ta 1233 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:36,919 Speaker 2: hundred one hundred. Uh Why Insecures blow job scene fell 1234 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,160 Speaker 2: out of step with the typically radical show? What yeap? 1235 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 2: Vulture dot com, Written by Angelica JB. That's the end. 1236 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 4: Pieces about Insecure. 1237 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:52,400 Speaker 3: I guess you didn't see that ending coming here, and most. 1238 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 4: Have not hitting the eye right. 1239 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 2: It was a very eye opening episode, but you know, 1240 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 2: I like to keep an eye open for these type 1241 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,280 Speaker 2: of think pieces. Now listen, here's the thing I'm gonna say. 1242 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna read this piece and the only thing I 1243 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 2: want to summarize in all this criticism is that people 1244 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:18,000 Speaker 2: care because it's a black show. Black people care, probably 1245 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 2: to an overbearing unfair amount in my opinion, and that's 1246 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 2: my personal opinion too, But they care because it's black. 1247 01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 3: If you say that that's. 1248 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 2: Why they care, mostfuckers lose their shit, and I don't 1249 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 2: know why, because you can't have it both way. The 1250 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 2: show can't have more pressure on it for being a 1251 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 2: black show. Yet your criticism isn't based on the fact 1252 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 2: that it's a black show. That's ridiculous, the fact that 1253 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 2: people don't criticize other shows like this and more, you know, 1254 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 2: actually more specifically, let me be more specific, because it's 1255 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,440 Speaker 2: not just that it's a black show that's unfair. It's 1256 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 2: a black woman show. Come on, so it's getting hyper criticized, 1257 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 2: some of it by black women. Even point being, there's 1258 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 2: a a tight rope that this show is forced to 1259 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 2: walk where if it doesn't meet people at all of 1260 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 2: their political and social like, if it doesn't meet them 1261 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,720 Speaker 2: in all their opinions, then the show quote unquote. 1262 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 3: Failed that week. 1263 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,560 Speaker 2: Correct, Like, it can't be the show expressed something that 1264 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 2: you know, this character feels differently than you sitting at 1265 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,080 Speaker 2: home feel. It can't be that. It has to be 1266 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 2: that they make the quote unquote right choice every week. 1267 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 2: To me, it's draining to me. It's unfair to me 1268 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 2: to a certain extent. It's this prism, this box that 1269 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 2: we put black art in where everything got to be 1270 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 2: a positima to your role model, and you know, and 1271 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 2: people don't want to admit that it's the blackness that 1272 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 2: makes it be that have to be that way, right, 1273 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,280 Speaker 2: you know, when you watch, when I listen to recaps 1274 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 2: or see people talk about right reviews for other shows, 1275 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 2: these aren't the topics that come up, no, you know. 1276 01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,919 Speaker 2: So I just find it interesting because, like I said, 1277 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,400 Speaker 2: you're not it's not wrong, quote unquote. If you have 1278 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,720 Speaker 2: an opinion about the show, it's not you know, you 1279 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,440 Speaker 2: don't have to like dislike whatever the fuck is happening. 1280 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that. 1281 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 2: And some of the critics are valid, but I'm not 1282 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 2: even right. I'm not even saying any critique isn't valid. 1283 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 2: Fuck it, that's your critique, that's that's how you felt 1284 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 2: watching the show. But it just feels like a lot 1285 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,040 Speaker 2: of the critiques come from this place of just beating 1286 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,920 Speaker 2: black artists over the head with blackness, like why didn't 1287 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 2: you do everything to represent everybody that's black? Or if 1288 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 2: you or if you did something to represent a different 1289 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 2: person's attitude that's black, Well, why didn't you represent my 1290 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 2: attitude about being black? And we turn these shows into 1291 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:42,480 Speaker 2: PSAs instead of to me their entertainment, their dramas. You know, 1292 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,600 Speaker 2: I think, you know, as much as people got on 1293 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 2: that the Atlanta Orgy Woman and shit, she had that 1294 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 2: one video where I was like, she making a lot 1295 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 2: of sense on the stuff of what she talks about 1296 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 2: nudity versus violence. Like, if you show a video two 1297 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 2: black women fighting, it can go viral, it can be 1298 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,240 Speaker 2: shown on Facebook, Twitter, It'll never be taken down, It'll 1299 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,640 Speaker 2: never be considered. It could be little black girls. It 1300 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,040 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. A video of a man hitting a black 1301 01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,120 Speaker 2: woman on a bus, that shit goes viral. It's a joke, 1302 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:13,640 Speaker 2: you know, Like it's. 1303 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:17,560 Speaker 3: Like, that's the but but let it be a woman 1304 01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,000 Speaker 3: poured her titties out. We got shut down the internet. 1305 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,919 Speaker 2: Instagram gonna flag you, Facebook, gonna kick you off, Twitter, 1306 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,880 Speaker 2: gonna take it down. Like we treat nudity in a way, 1307 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 2: you know that is different no matter what it's for, 1308 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 2: whether it's consensual nudity, whether education, Like we treat we 1309 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,920 Speaker 2: are very puritanical in that way. And this is a 1310 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,000 Speaker 2: show that talks about a lot of sex, a lot 1311 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 2: of you know, like and so it feels like people 1312 01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,800 Speaker 2: retreat to this puritanical place and they wrap it in 1313 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,520 Speaker 2: this flowery language. But it's still to me, it's still 1314 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 2: it's still kind of the same, Like it has to 1315 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,000 Speaker 2: be one way type of deal, you know what I mean, 1316 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,919 Speaker 2: Like we get into judging this because and the reason 1317 01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,680 Speaker 2: I say that is because if you're recapping another show, 1318 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 2: are you gonna talk about the violence and how that's 1319 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 2: wrong and the double standard and people shouldn't be violent 1320 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 2: and they and what does that teach us about violence? 1321 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 2: That because like she recaps or you know, not necessarily recaps, 1322 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,200 Speaker 2: but she had like Orphan Black, Like you know, you 1323 01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:18,880 Speaker 2: click someone's name on the side, he tells you other 1324 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,280 Speaker 2: shows they talk about you talk about Orphan Black. There's murder, killing, 1325 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,480 Speaker 2: all this shit. But you don't walk away from Orphan 1326 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 2: Black and be like, this is an instructional god for 1327 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,440 Speaker 2: how to live my life. People treat Insecure as if 1328 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,840 Speaker 2: it's literally an instructional God for how you're supposed to 1329 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,000 Speaker 2: navigate relationships, what your attitude is supposed to be about things. 1330 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,800 Speaker 2: And it's really weird because the show is based around 1331 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,320 Speaker 2: flawed people on purpose. So it's like, honestly, you should 1332 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 2: be looking at it like, well, that's the decision this 1333 01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,120 Speaker 2: person made because of the things they set up here, here, here, 1334 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:51,320 Speaker 2: and here, rather than they're all having these very pro 1335 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 2: black radical conversations all the time, because every conversation isn't 1336 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,320 Speaker 2: that no, and every character doesn't engage in the pro 1337 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,520 Speaker 2: black radical politics of like some them on some in 1338 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:05,280 Speaker 2: certain conversation when they talked about, like the dude having 1339 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 2: a gay experience in college, some of them were like, 1340 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 2: don't worry aboudy, it's a pretty progression, and some of 1341 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:16,720 Speaker 2: them were like, girl, hell no, you know, like like 1342 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 2: these things come up and I think they're just trying 1343 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,080 Speaker 2: to capture, you know, whatever that writing room finds to 1344 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,840 Speaker 2: be the entertaining aspects of those conversations and put them 1345 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 2: on screen. But it's being treated like it's on PBS. 1346 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 4: Right, And I don't know, Like I said, I. 1347 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1348 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 4: I've and this is me on the outside looking in. 1349 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 5: And it's one of the things that really really really 1350 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,560 Speaker 5: frustrate me about the show and one reason why I 1351 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,160 Speaker 5: only talk to you about the show because a lot 1352 01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 5: of times people take the show and it's me, me, me, 1353 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 5: me me, and I'm like, well, I want to talk 1354 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 5: about the show like the show itself, not about you 1355 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 5: your personal opinion, not about your heart getting broken and 1356 01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 5: the fuck nigga that laid on your couch for three 1357 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 5: weeks let's talk about the show and the characters themselves. 1358 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 5: But also that goes back to great writing, because great 1359 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 5: writing evokes emotions, and people don't know how to feel 1360 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,800 Speaker 5: about shows that evoke emotions. And when it comes to 1361 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 5: people emotions, instead of them saying with hey, this is 1362 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,200 Speaker 5: evoking this emotion in me, I'm not going to act 1363 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,320 Speaker 5: irrational and then logical based off of my emotions, you 1364 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 5: get their emotions first, and then you have to kind 1365 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,919 Speaker 5: of navigate around that before you get to the things 1366 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 5: that you really want to talk about. So a lot 1367 01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,000 Speaker 5: of time, no, no, no, I don't want to talk 1368 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,160 Speaker 5: about what about Isa, what about Lawrence? 1369 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,920 Speaker 4: What about Tasha? As the characters not about you and 1370 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,160 Speaker 4: your personal opinions. And I don't mind that. 1371 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,640 Speaker 5: And it's interesting when you hear people bring up their 1372 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:48,040 Speaker 5: personal opinions about it because they go into depth and 1373 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:49,720 Speaker 5: details and you find out more about them. 1374 01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,760 Speaker 4: That's great. But when I talk about the show, I 1375 01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:53,960 Speaker 4: want to talk about their characters. 1376 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 2: It just feels like a weird double standard, is all 1377 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Correct, because it's not even about evoking emotions. 1378 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 2: There's much a lot of great dramas on TV that 1379 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,440 Speaker 2: people just never did this with correct. I've watched a 1380 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,880 Speaker 2: lot of them, you know, like mad Man was not 1381 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,160 Speaker 2: seen as an instructional god for like living, Like listen, 1382 01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:10,440 Speaker 2: let's be like Don Draper. 1383 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,560 Speaker 3: It was understood. He's a flawed man. 1384 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:16,280 Speaker 2: He's an alcoholic, he's a serial cheater, he's a womanizer. 1385 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,479 Speaker 3: Like you know, he's a bad father. 1386 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,920 Speaker 2: And we just watched the show like it was just 1387 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,200 Speaker 2: we're watching a serialized show on this dude's life, and 1388 01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,240 Speaker 2: we don't go home and go be like him, you 1389 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,720 Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's just it's something about the 1390 01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,200 Speaker 2: fact that there's a black woman's show that it just 1391 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,760 Speaker 2: takes on a different you know, I don't know, it 1392 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:39,760 Speaker 2: just takes a different level of I don't know, it's 1393 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,000 Speaker 2: like an ownership or something that fans feel. And it's 1394 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 2: turning in the think piece of the week theater now 1395 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,120 Speaker 2: where it's just like every episode the next day there's 1396 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,759 Speaker 2: somebody telling you how the show is bad quote unquote 1397 01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,679 Speaker 2: or not bad, but did the wrong thing quote unquote, 1398 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:58,479 Speaker 2: and you're like, it's a show about people having hang ups, 1399 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 2: making errors, being insecured, and you're just pointing out what 1400 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,640 Speaker 2: the art I mean, what I assume the audience can 1401 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 2: tell is a person that's insecured right and. 1402 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:10,200 Speaker 5: Also is the thing too to where from my opinion, 1403 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,880 Speaker 5: I just get oh, I can I say this? 1404 01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,280 Speaker 4: Sometimes I just get frustrated with the. 1405 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:21,200 Speaker 5: Over with people over scrutinizing the show, Like you say, 1406 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,599 Speaker 5: because it was written by a black woman. I really 1407 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,760 Speaker 5: do think if a black man would have written this 1408 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,479 Speaker 5: in the exact same way, people may respond differently to it. 1409 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,040 Speaker 4: But it's just something about a black woman right now. 1410 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,560 Speaker 2: I think their vision, I think would it being a 1411 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 2: black woman league, people will still be very critical. It's 1412 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,400 Speaker 2: a show where a black woman lead that reaches a 1413 01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:45,720 Speaker 2: certain that that woke intersection of people. Like, like I said, man, 1414 01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 2: it's gonna be interesting to see what the whole like 1415 01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:52,240 Speaker 2: woke thing goes because at some point I feel like 1416 01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,519 Speaker 2: people will burn themselves out. I don't know when, but 1417 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,439 Speaker 2: like at some point people are gonna be like, yeah, dog, 1418 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,040 Speaker 2: you know for a fact that that's not how people 1419 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:05,120 Speaker 2: watch this show, you know what I mean? Like someone 1420 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:06,920 Speaker 2: got mad at me yesterday because they had you know, 1421 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,880 Speaker 2: they had that that part where they went to the sexplosion, 1422 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:10,920 Speaker 2: they had condoms there, and I was like, Oh, they're 1423 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,400 Speaker 2: showing condoms, y'all about to be mad. And the person 1424 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:17,559 Speaker 2: was like, how dare you downplay the feelings of people 1425 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,320 Speaker 2: watching the show? And I was like, One, I make 1426 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,720 Speaker 2: jokes during this entire episode, during every week that I 1427 01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,160 Speaker 2: watched this show in I live tweeted, it's just jokes 1428 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,000 Speaker 2: the whole time, and you know it's just jokes, so like, 1429 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:34,200 Speaker 2: so automatically, first of all, answer to my question must 1430 01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,720 Speaker 2: have been yes. But automatically you come at it from 1431 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,519 Speaker 2: a from a point of like wanting a fight. 1432 01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,800 Speaker 3: Two, I ain't never in it. 1433 01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 2: Nobody's mentioned and told them how to feel about that ship, right, 1434 01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,240 Speaker 2: you know. I mean people I watch float down the timeline. 1435 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,320 Speaker 2: This is this is terrible. They don't use condoms. This 1436 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,760 Speaker 2: is this is a real serious issue. I have never 1437 01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:54,760 Speaker 2: once jumped in they thing when it's just a show 1438 01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,640 Speaker 2: or any that's your opinion. We're watching the show. We 1439 01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 2: are not required to agree on the politics of the show. 1440 01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,360 Speaker 2: And I definitely don't give a fuck about debating you 1441 01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:03,840 Speaker 2: because you're just one person. 1442 01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,280 Speaker 3: I'm just one person. We didn't make the show. I 1443 01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,240 Speaker 3: don't write the show. I make jokes. 1444 01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,680 Speaker 2: If they put Conners on the show next year, I'm 1445 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,200 Speaker 2: gonna be like cool. If they don't, I'm gonna. 1446 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:13,519 Speaker 3: Be like cool. 1447 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,640 Speaker 2: It just literally doesn't matter to me because I am 1448 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:21,040 Speaker 2: an adult that learned to use learned about STDs and 1449 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,519 Speaker 2: sexual protection a long time ago, and I navigate my life. 1450 01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,679 Speaker 2: I just may be a very revolution everything to say. 1451 01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,920 Speaker 2: I navigate my life independent of this motherfucking show. 1452 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:38,120 Speaker 5: Like, come on, goddamn adult adult. No children should be 1453 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,519 Speaker 5: watching this show. So who is going to get influenced 1454 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,120 Speaker 5: by the fact that they use condoms or not? 1455 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,000 Speaker 3: Right, It's just I don't know, it's just super weird. 1456 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,720 Speaker 2: Like Ballers comes on right before this show, and I 1457 01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,960 Speaker 2: ain't never seen a condom on Ballers, and yet I've 1458 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:51,759 Speaker 2: never seen. 1459 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:52,920 Speaker 3: Anyone talk about it that way. 1460 01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:53,840 Speaker 4: Right now. 1461 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,640 Speaker 2: You know, girls did this shit for years, you know, 1462 01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,439 Speaker 2: like I just never seen, like even as Hannah, things 1463 01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,120 Speaker 2: that were fucked up and made bad decisions. I just 1464 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,920 Speaker 2: never saw people write these like, well, listen, this is 1465 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:10,559 Speaker 2: what was wrong with the show. Hannah shouldn't have gone 1466 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,479 Speaker 2: to the doctor and said this to the doctor. Like 1467 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,280 Speaker 2: we don't have those moments because we're like, yeah, that 1468 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,519 Speaker 2: she's fucked up, Like that's the show. 1469 01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,080 Speaker 5: Right, And my thing who gives a fuck. And maybe 1470 01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:21,800 Speaker 5: it's just me, I know, but I'm like, I don't 1471 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:23,320 Speaker 5: give a fuck about it. If they use condiments that 1472 01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,479 Speaker 5: didn't use condoms, I'm gonna let the allow the writer 1473 01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:27,920 Speaker 5: to tell the story. And it all boils back down 1474 01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,200 Speaker 5: to the shit to make me mad, you're overscrutinizing it 1475 01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,040 Speaker 5: because it's a black woman lead. It's a black woman 1476 01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,639 Speaker 5: that wrote the show, and black women have quote unquote, 1477 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,400 Speaker 5: they either got to be queens or their holes and 1478 01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:39,080 Speaker 5: bitches and sluts. You can't have anything in between. A 1479 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 5: woman can't have nuance. A woman can't suck dick, a 1480 01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,840 Speaker 5: woman can't won't head, a woman can't have any type 1481 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,080 Speaker 5: of sexual desires whatsoever. 1482 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,240 Speaker 2: So she can have it, No, listen, Okay, we're making 1483 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,880 Speaker 2: tw different points. She can have it, but it gotta 1484 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,400 Speaker 2: be the right way, Like everything gotta be the right way, 1485 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,680 Speaker 2: Like it's gotta pass some type of feminism tasks in 1486 01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,840 Speaker 2: every scene, or some type of black pro black test 1487 01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,479 Speaker 2: every like. I'm just thinking of the incredible burden that 1488 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,160 Speaker 2: it must be as a black artist to have to 1489 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,960 Speaker 2: fucking do this shit every Like everybody's watching you and 1490 01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 2: being like it better be it better be right, you know, 1491 01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,479 Speaker 2: not to mention the show where everything is right. It's 1492 01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,720 Speaker 2: gonna be your born ass show that nobody watches. Like 1493 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,479 Speaker 2: the show is good because it stars people down this 1494 01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,800 Speaker 2: path of insecurity and they start arguing it. But then 1495 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,760 Speaker 2: it's weird because people treat the show as if the 1496 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,920 Speaker 2: show doesn't doesn't know what is like, the show doesn't know, like, yes, 1497 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:33,280 Speaker 2: this decision and this conversation is one of those conversations 1498 01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,880 Speaker 2: where you're gonna be like, oh shit, I don't agree 1499 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 2: with this, or I do agree with this, and people 1500 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:42,799 Speaker 2: are gonna take from it their own experiences anyway. 1501 01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,479 Speaker 3: Uh, to wrap it, to wrap it up, she gets 1502 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:46,120 Speaker 3: into this. 1503 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:50,120 Speaker 2: Last night's episode of the usually excellent Insecure felt atypical, 1504 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,719 Speaker 2: which sounds like, you know, you're saying it's not excellent 1505 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,760 Speaker 2: this time. The patent was clipped, the subplot stand and 1506 01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,160 Speaker 2: it lacked the usual commitment the show has to depict. 1507 01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,719 Speaker 2: In a slice of model black life with baldy energy, 1508 01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:05,559 Speaker 2: Hella Blows spend its time focusing on Molly and East 1509 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,240 Speaker 2: of hitting new lows. Molly fully commits to being a 1510 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,200 Speaker 2: side of coooch tremar to Joe's open relationship. With his 1511 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,760 Speaker 2: wife Candice leagues leading the great leading the great sex 1512 01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,720 Speaker 2: with mixed emotional results. He'sa gets desperate about having a 1513 01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,800 Speaker 2: whole phase, leading her to disrespect the men in her 1514 01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,960 Speaker 2: life in different ways. I initially chalked up most of 1515 01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,240 Speaker 2: the show's missteps to it being an obvious filler episode, 1516 01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,519 Speaker 2: which is admittedly still a problem since the season only 1517 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,679 Speaker 2: has eight episodes. But then the episode, directed by Kevin 1518 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,880 Speaker 2: Bray and written by Regina Hicks and Benjamin Jones, takes 1519 01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,720 Speaker 2: an unrespected left turn when the subject of blowjobs comes up. 1520 01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,600 Speaker 2: Let's break down what happened. Tiffany East Of Molly and 1521 01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,120 Speaker 2: Kelly attend to Explosion in hopes of getting some toys 1522 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,840 Speaker 2: and having a good time. Tiffany suggests they sign up 1523 01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,880 Speaker 2: for blowjob classes to up their game, although she's quick 1524 01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:49,640 Speaker 2: to know she's so. 1525 01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,719 Speaker 3: Good at it because she should teach the class. 1526 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:53,639 Speaker 2: Maybe she should teach class. 1527 01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,720 Speaker 3: She proves to be an outlier. Kelly doesn't give blowjobs. 1528 01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,439 Speaker 2: Molly will reciprocate when a man goes down to her, 1529 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,559 Speaker 2: but she is all that enthusiastic about it, and Easter 1530 01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,600 Speaker 2: straight up isn't about that life, saying she gives she 1531 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:08,320 Speaker 2: fines giving blow jobs too intimate and openly admit she 1532 01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,720 Speaker 2: isn't good at giving them. She also believes that black 1533 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,040 Speaker 2: women are automatically seen as disposable if they give me 1534 01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,120 Speaker 2: in head. It's a weird conversation, but the racial politics 1535 01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,840 Speaker 2: makes matters worse. Tiffany, I just don't understand black women 1536 01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:21,120 Speaker 2: and the hang ups about all sex. 1537 01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:21,720 Speaker 3: Moley girls. 1538 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,920 Speaker 2: Shut your light, skin us up. Issa. You went through 1539 01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:31,040 Speaker 2: all you went to all those private schools, so your brainwash. Becky, Tiffany, 1540 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,439 Speaker 2: You mean Becky with the good ring. Why do you 1541 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,800 Speaker 2: think black men are out here chasing at the white women? 1542 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,760 Speaker 2: Why do I even begin here? Should I start with 1543 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,400 Speaker 2: the stale humor and the cultural commentary that wasn't even 1544 01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,720 Speaker 2: cutting edge in nineteen ninety three? Should I imagine the 1545 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:47,120 Speaker 2: appalling Wade's characters equate Tiffany's interest in blow jobs with whiteness. 1546 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,720 Speaker 2: No matter your interests, blow jobs are pretty much sex 1547 01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,519 Speaker 2: one on one. If there was something that undercut this 1548 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:58,240 Speaker 2: conversation according to this person, that's blow jobs are sexy 1549 01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:02,640 Speaker 2: one on one. Care knows that. Okay, Karen discreased, but 1550 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,800 Speaker 2: you are a black women not okay? 1551 01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they won't teacher education, you know, the definitely 1552 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:09,599 Speaker 4: gonna choo your bro job. 1553 01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,519 Speaker 2: If there was something to undercut this conversation, like another 1554 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,000 Speaker 2: black woman that the seminar interrupted, the highlight how weirdly 1555 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:16,920 Speaker 2: regresses the idea that black women aren't in the blow 1556 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:18,639 Speaker 2: jobs is that would be one thing. 1557 01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,160 Speaker 3: But sometimes I'm like, you gotta write your own show. 1558 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,240 Speaker 2: But okay, But nothing about the writing of this episode 1559 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,679 Speaker 2: feels fresh, layer or fully considered of the modern sexual 1560 01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,840 Speaker 2: mores of black women. The dated nature of the conversations 1561 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,800 Speaker 2: compounded about Easter deciding to take what she learned in 1562 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,240 Speaker 2: the seminar and trying it out on Daniel when he 1563 01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,000 Speaker 2: comes on her face. She stors our angrly, feeling disrespectfit 1564 01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:42,200 Speaker 2: that that disrespected that blowjob seminar obviously wasn't that good 1565 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,960 Speaker 2: if it didn't teach her etiquette that when a man 1566 01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,240 Speaker 2: is about to come during a blowjob, you only have 1567 01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 2: so many options. 1568 01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:50,160 Speaker 3: Getting come in your eye is not fun. 1569 01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,280 Speaker 2: But Easter's response is an overreaction, As my friend and 1570 01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,880 Speaker 2: fellow writer Jasmine Sanders put it when we talked about 1571 01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,559 Speaker 2: the show privately, we haven't debated second dick since before 1572 01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,120 Speaker 2: that was wildfi we want are the only ones reacted 1573 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,400 Speaker 2: to the storyline passionately. And then she quotes a couple 1574 01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:04,440 Speaker 2: of people on Twitter. 1575 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:07,759 Speaker 4: And like, I said, but go ahead. 1576 01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:11,760 Speaker 5: Everybody's subject to their own opinion with that, And I 1577 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:16,920 Speaker 5: think that the conversation was different. Women feel different ways 1578 01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:20,640 Speaker 5: about giving blowjobs, you know, everybody. You know, you do 1579 01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:22,960 Speaker 5: have women that feel like that's a white woman's thing. 1580 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,439 Speaker 5: You do have women that feel like I only give 1581 01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,000 Speaker 5: it if received. 1582 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 4: You do have some women be like I don't do 1583 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:29,680 Speaker 4: it at all. 1584 01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:33,440 Speaker 5: And it varies because every woman has a different experience 1585 01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:37,600 Speaker 5: when it comes, you know, to that, and you have 1586 01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,280 Speaker 5: some women go, I stuck your dig, but what you 1587 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:40,760 Speaker 5: better not do is come in my eye. 1588 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,960 Speaker 2: Well, you know what I find interesting too, is like 1589 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,960 Speaker 2: the stereotype self persists that black men don't eat pussy 1590 01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,160 Speaker 2: like so much that it is a cultural joke and shit, 1591 01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,800 Speaker 2: And I feel like if that conversation comes up on 1592 01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:56,840 Speaker 2: a show or something, it's not going to be treated 1593 01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,640 Speaker 2: this way of right, you know, like, why didn't they 1594 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:03,400 Speaker 2: show represent the black men that definitely do eat puss it? 1595 01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,800 Speaker 2: And what was the why didn't someone interrupt them and 1596 01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,360 Speaker 2: walk up and say, I definitely will eat some pussy. 1597 01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:08,880 Speaker 5: Like. 1598 01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,360 Speaker 3: It feels like they. 1599 01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,880 Speaker 2: Want the show to be something that is not, you know, 1600 01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,439 Speaker 2: and it is insecure. It is people having in these 1601 01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:22,240 Speaker 2: conversations that are taboo, expressing ideas and stuff that aren't 1602 01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:25,760 Speaker 2: necessarily popular. I find it weird in the show, where 1603 01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,200 Speaker 2: she's obviously on the wrong side of the racism shit 1604 01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:32,360 Speaker 2: at her job, that people look at her as well. 1605 01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,599 Speaker 2: Issa is the moral complish of the show. No, Lisa's 1606 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:39,720 Speaker 2: out here making bad decision at the bad decision Are 1607 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,360 Speaker 2: you mad that she's not representing you and being like 1608 01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,880 Speaker 2: I love sucking dick Like it's such a weird thing. 1609 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:47,519 Speaker 2: And I think also a lot of people have kind 1610 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:51,280 Speaker 2: of hinged themselves to like sexual positivity in a way 1611 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:56,680 Speaker 2: that's almost like nobody is allowed to not be as 1612 01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,840 Speaker 2: sexually progressive. 1613 01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:03,000 Speaker 4: As you, you know what I mean. People are comfortable things, right. 1614 01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:07,360 Speaker 2: So it's like, if I've decided that, uh, you know, 1615 01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:11,240 Speaker 2: dick sucking is my and pro and positive sexual experience 1616 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,760 Speaker 2: as means going out and fucking a lot of people 1617 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,800 Speaker 2: and shit, that is what I've decided is positive. If 1618 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:20,960 Speaker 2: that's not for you, If that's not, then then you're wrong, right, like, 1619 01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,080 Speaker 2: so I've decided that, you know, we need to be 1620 01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:27,200 Speaker 2: out here doing BDSM fucking everybody, don't shame me. 1621 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:28,559 Speaker 3: But then it's like when. 1622 01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,920 Speaker 2: People are like, well I'm not in all that, Oh, 1623 01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,160 Speaker 2: well fuck you. You know what I mean. Also, this 1624 01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:36,400 Speaker 2: is a conversation that, in my opinion, it's being is 1625 01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:39,639 Speaker 2: ignoring that Tiffany was the one that was like, y'all 1626 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:44,120 Speaker 2: niggas tripping. It's like they had different you know, Molly's 1627 01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:48,120 Speaker 2: give and received, Kelly's literally taking. 1628 01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:49,040 Speaker 3: Them to the blow job seminar. 1629 01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,080 Speaker 2: I don't even know how. I don't even know how 1630 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:56,840 Speaker 2: that is, Like, I don't understand, Like I just it 1631 01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:00,799 Speaker 2: feels like the critique is more about people's person no preference, 1632 01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,320 Speaker 2: and the show didn't express a love for their personal preference. 1633 01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,519 Speaker 2: And I understand it is an old trope. I'm not 1634 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,160 Speaker 2: saying that I don't know how true it is or 1635 01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,680 Speaker 2: not like it just but to me, I just look 1636 01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,760 Speaker 2: at it like that's a comedy TV show. If you 1637 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,160 Speaker 2: know you didn't like that bit, I understand saying I 1638 01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,120 Speaker 2: didn't find it funny, it's weird to then take it 1639 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,040 Speaker 2: to the next level of and they fucking this up 1640 01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,800 Speaker 2: for black people, and they failed the you know what 1641 01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,439 Speaker 2: I mean, like, how did you fail blackness by you know, 1642 01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,560 Speaker 2: this two minute scene? It just seems so weird to me, 1643 01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:35,200 Speaker 2: But that's just my opinion of it. Look, I don't 1644 01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,519 Speaker 2: think discussing how black women have sex is all that interesting, 1645 01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:39,519 Speaker 2: but I can't help but be put out by how 1646 01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:44,240 Speaker 2: regressive the storyline feels in the after show segment. But 1647 01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,919 Speaker 2: it's a black show. They're going to discuss. Any discussion 1648 01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:49,920 Speaker 2: they have is gonna be how black women do something. 1649 01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:54,120 Speaker 2: You know, it's just black people doing It's so weird. 1650 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:56,479 Speaker 2: I don't know what they want from I know what 1651 01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,559 Speaker 2: they want from the show. They wanted to basically mirror 1652 01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:00,439 Speaker 2: their own politics. That's it. 1653 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,840 Speaker 4: And it's not going to do that and it never will. 1654 01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:06,200 Speaker 4: And the thing is, I love when. 1655 01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,439 Speaker 5: When people because I listened to various different shows to 1656 01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,439 Speaker 5: talk about it, a lot, people talk about the show, 1657 01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:14,920 Speaker 5: and even if they talk about their. 1658 01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,880 Speaker 4: Own personal. 1659 01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:23,680 Speaker 5: Things, they still talk about the show itself, right, you know, 1660 01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:24,439 Speaker 5: And that's my thing. 1661 01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,960 Speaker 4: Get to the foundation of it, which is well she did. 1662 01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,479 Speaker 2: In all fairness, she wrote a recap of the show. 1663 01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:33,799 Speaker 2: This is an addition too, so so in all fairness 1664 01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,680 Speaker 2: This is not her recap of the show. This is 1665 01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:39,160 Speaker 2: her issue with this episode, and it's two minutes of conversation. 1666 01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,599 Speaker 2: I don't think she's like rat saying the show is trash. 1667 01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:43,080 Speaker 3: Or anything like that. 1668 01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,040 Speaker 2: She just did not enjoy this episode and specifically this 1669 01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,479 Speaker 2: conversation and whatnot. So you know, I would like to 1670 01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,880 Speaker 2: you know, I'm trying to be fair correct, but yeah, 1671 01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:54,760 Speaker 2: but I can't help but be put out by how 1672 01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,160 Speaker 2: aggressive the storyline feels and the after show segment why 1673 01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:59,960 Speaker 2: Down Eastern Ray spoke with actor Jay Ellison plays long 1674 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:00,600 Speaker 2: Arence early on. 1675 01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:02,320 Speaker 3: This is something I wanted in the season. 1676 01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,880 Speaker 2: She added one oral sex is such a contingentus subject 1677 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,519 Speaker 2: for Black women, especially versus white women. Is it a 1678 01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:09,680 Speaker 2: Black woman who is friends with other Black women who 1679 01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:13,040 Speaker 2: are differently different culturally, financially and personality wise. This is 1680 01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,559 Speaker 2: not a conversation I've ever had. I'm not saying most 1681 01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:17,760 Speaker 2: black women share the same attitude on blowjobs, which the 1682 01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,680 Speaker 2: show weirdly argues, But I can't think of anyone I 1683 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,720 Speaker 2: know who acts as if it's an adventurous aspect of sexuality, 1684 01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:30,759 Speaker 2: whether they're into it or not. That's that person experience, 1685 01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:34,920 Speaker 2: you know, what I mean, I think there's one. Since 1686 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:39,000 Speaker 2: we don't have a statistical measure, it's all gonna be anecdotal. 1687 01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,600 Speaker 2: I find it odd that she's and you do this 1688 01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,960 Speaker 2: a lot within blackness in general. She's actually sort of 1689 01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:50,479 Speaker 2: dismissing Issa's personal experience in order to say, well, mine 1690 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:52,360 Speaker 2: is the one that should be on screen. 1691 01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:53,880 Speaker 3: It's the one that counts. 1692 01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,600 Speaker 2: But if Issa's personal experience is that she's had conversations 1693 01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:02,280 Speaker 2: like this with black women then and made the show, uh, 1694 01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:04,920 Speaker 2: that's the one that gets on screen. That's just how 1695 01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:05,360 Speaker 2: it goes. 1696 01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:05,519 Speaker 5: Like. 1697 01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,599 Speaker 2: And I've had to deal with this, like I've had 1698 01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:10,640 Speaker 2: to come around on some of this shit because I 1699 01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,240 Speaker 2: used to feel like my experience is the black experience. 1700 01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,599 Speaker 2: But I talked to other black people and like, oh, yeah, 1701 01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,320 Speaker 2: you're just as black as fucking me. I don't know 1702 01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,680 Speaker 2: what I was thinking to think I had the right 1703 01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,360 Speaker 2: answer and you had the wrong answer. If you like, 1704 01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:26,760 Speaker 2: if you had if someone else had a podcast and 1705 01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:31,400 Speaker 2: they talked about their religiosity in their in how their 1706 01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,479 Speaker 2: religious experiences is a black person I may find no 1707 01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:35,120 Speaker 2: home in that. 1708 01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:36,880 Speaker 3: They're still just as black? 1709 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,960 Speaker 2: Correct they you know, anecdotally, I can't tell them I'm 1710 01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,160 Speaker 2: erasing your experience because it's not positive. 1711 01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:43,240 Speaker 4: Enough for me. 1712 01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,120 Speaker 2: You know, even when it came to that stuff where 1713 01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:47,960 Speaker 2: we were talking about black nerves and shit, and it 1714 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,120 Speaker 2: was like, well, these kids picked on me, is it? 1715 01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,559 Speaker 2: And I used to be like, man, maybe you were 1716 01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,720 Speaker 2: just a dick da da da kind of adding to it. 1717 01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,479 Speaker 2: Maybe they weren't some cases, But in some cases, maybe 1718 01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:00,439 Speaker 2: that's just the experience they got. Is that the people 1719 01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,639 Speaker 2: that bullied them and point and called out their blackness 1720 01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,840 Speaker 2: and and and call and you know, just bothered them 1721 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,000 Speaker 2: and talked about the way they talk. Maybe those were 1722 01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:12,080 Speaker 2: black kids in their lives at that age. I don't 1723 01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,439 Speaker 2: know shit about their life at that age. I don't 1724 01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,479 Speaker 2: get to decide for them what the dominant narrative of 1725 01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,320 Speaker 2: their life has to be to please me, right, you know, 1726 01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:23,240 Speaker 2: So that's how to But I treat all art like that, 1727 01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,120 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like I like, you're putting 1728 01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,439 Speaker 2: this thing out, you're you know, and that may just 1729 01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,200 Speaker 2: be the uniqueness of how I view the world. I'm 1730 01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,400 Speaker 2: not and maybe I'm the one that's in the minority here. 1731 01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,280 Speaker 2: But when you put when you're writing an album, I 1732 01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,519 Speaker 2: don't need Kendrick to give me my life. I know 1733 01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,719 Speaker 2: how the fuck I lived my life, right, He's telling 1734 01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,000 Speaker 2: me how he sees his life, right. I don't need 1735 01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,960 Speaker 2: him to have the right answer because it's not advice. 1736 01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,320 Speaker 2: It's a fucking album, you know. And that's kind of 1737 01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,760 Speaker 2: the thing that I take away from the show that 1738 01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,439 Speaker 2: I feel like maybe I'm in the minority of you 1739 01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:56,320 Speaker 2: in the show that way. 1740 01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,160 Speaker 4: And also truth be told. 1741 01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:03,360 Speaker 5: My I guess my view and my opinion about the show, 1742 01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,759 Speaker 5: I'm not trying to find it's gonna be somewhat skewed 1743 01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:09,120 Speaker 5: because for a lot of people, they have been single 1744 01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,800 Speaker 5: and have been dating for an extensive period of time, 1745 01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,360 Speaker 5: and I think if you date for a long period 1746 01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:18,080 Speaker 5: of time, you have ran into certain scenarios in situations 1747 01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:19,600 Speaker 5: that I personally have. 1748 01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,560 Speaker 4: Never ran into. I've never dealt with that. 1749 01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:26,160 Speaker 5: You've had certain cycles and things like that, and there's 1750 01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,960 Speaker 5: nothing wrong with that. But I know, my opinion is like, well, 1751 01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,679 Speaker 5: the show is just a show, and other people feel 1752 01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,320 Speaker 5: strongly based off of the personal experiences that they've had 1753 01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:36,400 Speaker 5: in the dating game. 1754 01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,120 Speaker 2: Well, someone said in the chat it feels like monolithing, 1755 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,040 Speaker 2: and that's a perfect word for it. That's how it 1756 01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,519 Speaker 2: feels to me, and I think there's a difference between 1757 01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:46,200 Speaker 2: a critique and a difference. 1758 01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:49,479 Speaker 3: Between y'all got it wrong. It needs to off. 1759 01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:53,000 Speaker 2: Every show about this topic needs to be one way, 1760 01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,479 Speaker 2: and if it comes up, it has to be this way, 1761 01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,799 Speaker 2: because I'm sure Being Mary Jane Tackles will tackle this differently. 1762 01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure How to Get Away with Murder will tackle 1763 01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:03,479 Speaker 2: this different I'm sure Scandal will talk about this different 1764 01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:05,400 Speaker 2: you know, like not that they would necessarily talk about 1765 01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,720 Speaker 2: this topic, but saying that there are other shows led 1766 01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:11,200 Speaker 2: by black women that they tackle things in a different nature. 1767 01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:14,160 Speaker 2: It's weird to me to put the lens of blackness 1768 01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,599 Speaker 2: on all those shows and be like, yeah, it has 1769 01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:18,880 Speaker 2: to be one way, because then I'm like, what's the 1770 01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,040 Speaker 2: point of being a black artist. Everybody gotta have the 1771 01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:25,000 Speaker 2: right answer to everything, Like even about Character is basically 1772 01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,519 Speaker 2: a Larry David of black women. I have to still 1773 01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:31,800 Speaker 2: have the right answer. That's crazy, Like Larry David's show 1774 01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:33,920 Speaker 2: is popular because he is wrong all the time. 1775 01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like that's the thing is like, look at him 1776 01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:37,760 Speaker 3: fuck up again this week? 1777 01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:38,439 Speaker 5: Ha ha ha. 1778 01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:42,640 Speaker 2: We laugh, it comes back on we turn, you know, 1779 01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,960 Speaker 2: like it's supposed to be a fun time and the 1780 01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:49,559 Speaker 2: criticism never goes to man, Larry did the wrong thing 1781 01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:50,000 Speaker 2: this week? 1782 01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,000 Speaker 3: Why was that conversation so regressive? 1783 01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:55,960 Speaker 2: We go cause it's a comedy and he's the fucked 1784 01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:57,360 Speaker 2: up person on the comedy. 1785 01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,519 Speaker 4: Right, And like I said, I think for me, like 1786 01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:02,200 Speaker 4: I say, criticism is criticism. 1787 01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:03,080 Speaker 5: Uh. 1788 01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,880 Speaker 4: And I don't mind criticism, and I don't I want 1789 01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:07,360 Speaker 4: to get that. I don't mind criticism. 1790 01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,200 Speaker 5: My thing is with I feel like you you just 1791 01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:13,959 Speaker 5: scrutinized it and intended apart in a way where I'm going. 1792 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:17,680 Speaker 4: Oh, you just it just you wanted your vision and 1793 01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:18,639 Speaker 4: not Easi's vision. 1794 01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:23,320 Speaker 3: Right, all right, I'll finished reading this. Though I do 1795 01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:23,960 Speaker 3: want to be fair. 1796 01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,360 Speaker 2: It's also troubling that black women are framing the sexual 1797 01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,200 Speaker 2: pruse compared to white women. What the conversation at Easi's 1798 01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,320 Speaker 2: loatter reaction that Daniel underscores isn't just a false pronouncement 1799 01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:35,760 Speaker 2: of black women's prudichness. As much as I love the show, 1800 01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:39,599 Speaker 2: it has u it has some great and respectability politics 1801 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,400 Speaker 2: bubbling underneath the surface that haven't been fully unpacked. Remember 1802 01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,040 Speaker 2: Jared from last season, he was a great guy, but 1803 01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,439 Speaker 2: Moley first judged his job, then practically reposed by him 1804 01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,679 Speaker 2: once she found out he wants to see the blowjob 1805 01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,439 Speaker 2: from a man. In Secure is great at depicting the swatha, 1806 01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:57,680 Speaker 2: upperly mobile Los Angeles black folks, but it lacks an 1807 01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,679 Speaker 2: interest in exploring queer black life and anything on the basics. 1808 01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,800 Speaker 2: When it comes to sex. It's character sexist characters have 1809 01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:12,120 Speaker 2: I like, legitimately, like, I guess you really would want 1810 01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:13,719 Speaker 2: to watch a show called Secure? 1811 01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:16,000 Speaker 3: Where did the characters go? 1812 01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,360 Speaker 5: Everybody make the right choices, They about to make the 1813 01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:19,960 Speaker 5: right decisions. 1814 01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:24,439 Speaker 4: Right, you know, nobody is flawed and that fucking frustrates me. 1815 01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,160 Speaker 5: Were born as shit and whet nobody got there and 1816 01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,960 Speaker 5: watch There's plenty of documentaries out there for you to watch. 1817 01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,400 Speaker 5: And I think that's the part that really upsets me 1818 01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:35,080 Speaker 5: because you have a lot of people who act like, uh, 1819 01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:37,360 Speaker 5: the character's gotta be perfect, Like the same thing with 1820 01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,679 Speaker 5: Scandal and Carry Washington's character. 1821 01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,640 Speaker 4: Everybody act like she's sucking a white man. She fucking up, 1822 01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:47,599 Speaker 4: She's a flawed character. Why can't black women be lead. 1823 01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:49,439 Speaker 2: And role and be flawed in all fair and she 1824 01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,519 Speaker 2: was fucking a married president of the United States white man. 1825 01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,320 Speaker 2: That's why she was fucking up quote unquote that being said, 1826 01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,040 Speaker 2: the criticism was unfair, like you know what I mean, 1827 01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:01,559 Speaker 2: Like it then became the Negro Bedwig Show and shit 1828 01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,760 Speaker 2: like that. Look, but that wasn't I don't think from 1829 01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:05,880 Speaker 2: the super woke chapter of people. You know, there's a 1830 01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:07,880 Speaker 2: lot of people like yah and all that shit too, 1831 01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,120 Speaker 2: And that's a lot of people like yes on this show. 1832 01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:14,000 Speaker 2: I just think it's weird or the show has found 1833 01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:18,280 Speaker 2: itself in a weird place of blackness where it has 1834 01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,160 Speaker 2: to pass a test every week. 1835 01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:22,840 Speaker 3: And you know, people are writing about it. 1836 01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:25,679 Speaker 2: White people are watching, so there's an extra pressure from 1837 01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,120 Speaker 2: whether you know, I think a lot of these black 1838 01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:30,920 Speaker 2: people that watch it feel this extra level of pressure 1839 01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:32,920 Speaker 2: for like what are white people gonna think when they 1840 01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:36,560 Speaker 2: see these black ass conversations in front of whiteness. So 1841 01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:38,360 Speaker 2: there's like this extra pressure on the show that I 1842 01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:42,040 Speaker 2: just feel like it's stifling and unfair to a certain extent. 1843 01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:45,320 Speaker 2: Hopefully they just continue to do their thing and try 1844 01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:49,600 Speaker 2: it out the word because like, honestly, nobody wants to 1845 01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:53,040 Speaker 2: see the show that this article wants to make the show, 1846 01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:55,439 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like that and that just 1847 01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,200 Speaker 2: that's the thing with a lot of criticism, especially of comedy. 1848 01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:01,200 Speaker 2: People come at comedy and so ways and I'm like, yeah, 1849 01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:03,679 Speaker 2: one person filled up a room of people that want 1850 01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:04,000 Speaker 2: to laugh. 1851 01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:06,040 Speaker 3: One person is getting, however. 1852 01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:09,599 Speaker 2: Many million views every Sunday, and you're just getting clicks 1853 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:13,320 Speaker 2: off of that person's work. Like you're not actually creating anything. 1854 01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,560 Speaker 2: You're not making a funnier show, you're not making a 1855 01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:19,880 Speaker 2: better show. But you know, I feel like to a 1856 01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:23,799 Speaker 2: certain extent, the show crossed over into white folks are watching, 1857 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,240 Speaker 2: and now it's just a different level of critique because 1858 01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,360 Speaker 2: it's like you have to present the correct level of 1859 01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:32,560 Speaker 2: blackness every week. You can't have a character like, like 1860 01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,880 Speaker 2: I said, it's weird to write this and not write 1861 01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:40,759 Speaker 2: a long ass how is she impacting this Latino community 1862 01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:42,240 Speaker 2: about like it? 1863 01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:44,840 Speaker 3: But I haven't seen those pieces. If anything, I've seen a. 1864 01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:49,840 Speaker 2: Lot of defenses of her promoting what is morally reprehensible 1865 01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,720 Speaker 2: towards these Latino kids to leave them out of this 1866 01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:55,760 Speaker 2: program that would enrich their lives just because you got 1867 01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:57,679 Speaker 2: black kids coming in and be like fuck them kids, 1868 01:30:58,040 --> 01:30:59,880 Speaker 2: knowing that you have a racist principle that did that. 1869 01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,080 Speaker 2: People don't seem as bothered by that, you know it, 1870 01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,479 Speaker 2: and it's it's just people. I think people pick the 1871 01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:07,400 Speaker 2: thing that hits them. Like I said that one person 1872 01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:09,600 Speaker 2: I got mad at one tweet of mine about the 1873 01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:11,160 Speaker 2: condom shit, and it was like you were kind of 1874 01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:13,720 Speaker 2: side on people that were mad about condoms, and I'm like, 1875 01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:15,800 Speaker 2: that's my fucking right. I don't have to agree with 1876 01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:18,320 Speaker 2: you that everybody needs to use a condom on the 1877 01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:20,599 Speaker 2: show and I need to see a five minute tutorial 1878 01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:21,679 Speaker 2: between scenes or anything. 1879 01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:22,519 Speaker 3: I don't have to agree. 1880 01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:24,559 Speaker 2: It's up to the writers if they want to put 1881 01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:27,240 Speaker 2: it in next year, that's fine. I'm allowed to be 1882 01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:30,360 Speaker 2: entertained by this even when you're not, and vice versa, 1883 01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:33,200 Speaker 2: you're allowed to not be entertained. But part like I said, 1884 01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:36,040 Speaker 2: the critique sometimes feels like like the person saying the 1885 01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:40,519 Speaker 2: chat monolithing is the perfect perfect word pass is putting 1886 01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,760 Speaker 2: too many expectations on a single series. That is Father 1887 01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,120 Speaker 2: has admit a few flawls, a few faults, a joy 1888 01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:48,679 Speaker 2: to watch and revolutionary and certain as respects. Yes, also 1889 01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:51,240 Speaker 2: only eight episodes of the season. It just feels like 1890 01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:54,400 Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of pressure and it might just be 1891 01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:58,240 Speaker 2: my empathy towards the creatives to be like Jesus Man, 1892 01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:00,519 Speaker 2: I can't imagine being like in a writing, We're like, 1893 01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:04,840 Speaker 2: can't do that because certain type of black people get mad. Well, 1894 01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:06,840 Speaker 2: you can't make the other decision because then some other 1895 01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:09,160 Speaker 2: black people will get mad. Yeah, well, you know, can't 1896 01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:11,640 Speaker 2: do that because then this you know, like there's no 1897 01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:13,320 Speaker 2: right way out of some of this stuff. And you 1898 01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:16,280 Speaker 2: also want to have these messy conversations. You know, we 1899 01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:17,639 Speaker 2: do it on our show every day. 1900 01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:20,720 Speaker 3: We have some conversation where I'm like, this is just 1901 01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:21,400 Speaker 3: how we feel. 1902 01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:22,479 Speaker 2: It's honest. 1903 01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:25,360 Speaker 3: You're watching us grow, You're watching us make the right choices. 1904 01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:28,160 Speaker 2: You might just make it the wrong with choices, but 1905 01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:31,840 Speaker 2: the authenticity is what the you know, and you may judge, 1906 01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,160 Speaker 2: you may not, but the authenticity is the thing, right, 1907 01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:36,719 Speaker 2: That's why shit is hotter than other people shit. 1908 01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:39,920 Speaker 3: That's the you know. To me, that's the hook. 1909 01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:44,200 Speaker 2: But somehow I guess everybody's not looking at it that way, 1910 01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:47,280 Speaker 2: which is fine. Perhaps it's put into me expectations on 1911 01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:50,280 Speaker 2: the single series that is fall Us and admittedly few faults, 1912 01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,360 Speaker 2: a joy to watch and revolutionary, certain rest respects part 1913 01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,640 Speaker 2: of hypercriticism of Insecure. Of the hypercriticism of Insecure is 1914 01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:58,519 Speaker 2: that is a black run and black LEDs show about 1915 01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,920 Speaker 2: twenty to thirty somethings who aren't perfect. It has recently 1916 01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:03,720 Speaker 2: taken hay over the way it leads to sexual health 1917 01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:07,840 Speaker 2: practices of his characters, as Javon Orgie, who plays Molly, 1918 01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,799 Speaker 2: said of that controversy in a recent interview with Vulture 1919 01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:15,639 Speaker 2: with Vulture that there's that pressure to be all things 1920 01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:16,200 Speaker 2: to all people. 1921 01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,040 Speaker 3: Whether it's fair or not, it is what it is. 1922 01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:20,800 Speaker 2: I think we try to be on What we try 1923 01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:22,280 Speaker 2: to be on the show is authentic and honest to 1924 01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:23,640 Speaker 2: the story you want to tell and the voice we 1925 01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:25,800 Speaker 2: want to have. That doesn't mean that there's no margin 1926 01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:28,280 Speaker 2: for error. It doesn't mean that we're gonna be callous. 1927 01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:30,040 Speaker 2: It just means we're doing the best we can what 1928 01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:32,280 Speaker 2: we have. Well, there you go. 1929 01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:34,479 Speaker 3: It's funny. 1930 01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,400 Speaker 2: She basically answered this entire critique with that sentence. In 1931 01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:40,160 Speaker 2: my opinion, for the most part, I agree with Orgie. 1932 01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:43,240 Speaker 2: Insecure primarily owes his viewer a good story as well told, 1933 01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:46,320 Speaker 2: but it also owes its viewers honesty about his characters 1934 01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:47,280 Speaker 2: in their place in the world. 1935 01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:51,080 Speaker 3: What was just honest this week. I just don't like 1936 01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:56,160 Speaker 3: how what was dishonest? Does Easter d the character have 1937 01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:57,479 Speaker 3: to like sucking dick? 1938 01:33:58,040 --> 01:33:58,800 Speaker 2: Is that the rule? 1939 01:33:59,160 --> 01:33:59,360 Speaker 5: Right? 1940 01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:03,639 Speaker 2: It is just honest about that. I don't understand everybody. 1941 01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:08,439 Speaker 2: Maybe the person doesn't like sucking dick. And she, as 1942 01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:10,960 Speaker 2: a creator of this show, said my experience is gonna 1943 01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:12,479 Speaker 2: be sucking dick is whack. 1944 01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:15,679 Speaker 3: And this is why I don't appreciate this experience. 1945 01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:18,360 Speaker 2: And it's like, when you weren't being very emotionally fair, well, 1946 01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,320 Speaker 2: when I get spurned my eye. I'm not the best 1947 01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:23,040 Speaker 2: fucking person in the world. I'm not the most it's 1948 01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,960 Speaker 2: okay person. Okay, Like maybe maybe that's just you know, 1949 01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:31,040 Speaker 2: to her the funny gag, you know. At any rate, 1950 01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:34,800 Speaker 2: the blowdrob narrative in the episode six not only felt 1951 01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:38,800 Speaker 2: cold from a completely different generation. So I guess, uh, 1952 01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:43,000 Speaker 2: the new the new generation everybody loves sucking dick and 1953 01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,400 Speaker 2: all the black women are the same on this it 1954 01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,559 Speaker 2: was it was bad storytelling to undercut the human intimacy 1955 01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:53,559 Speaker 2: the series typically excels at. So yep. 1956 01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,840 Speaker 3: But obviously, like I said, it's just her opinion she's had. 1957 01:34:57,479 --> 01:34:59,680 Speaker 2: But I just the thing about it. To me, I 1958 01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:01,439 Speaker 2: put it and fucking with black people is there's a 1959 01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:04,840 Speaker 2: ton of black people to watch this show, and these 1960 01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:09,040 Speaker 2: reviews like this, these this type of like the kindom thing. 1961 01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:14,360 Speaker 2: It always kind of falls into this thing where it's like, oh, 1962 01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,200 Speaker 2: all black people expect something different from the show. 1963 01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:21,120 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm sorry. I mean all the black. 1964 01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:23,840 Speaker 2: People together have decided that this show failed this week. 1965 01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:27,160 Speaker 2: That's how the piece comes off. I'm like, we haven't 1966 01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:30,240 Speaker 2: decided that a lot of us understand and respect that 1967 01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:34,320 Speaker 2: it's a creative person's opinion or what you know, whatever, 1968 01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:37,800 Speaker 2: and we don't take it beyond like and now she 1969 01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:40,400 Speaker 2: just set black people back, Like that's how the piece 1970 01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:42,960 Speaker 2: comes off. And I'm saying, we don't all feel like 1971 01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:47,800 Speaker 2: that anyways. Zero two hundred though, Yeah, that's a hundred 1972 01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:48,479 Speaker 2: for me too. Man. 1973 01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:50,080 Speaker 3: I feel like. 1974 01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:54,479 Speaker 2: I'm waiting on people to come around and admit that 1975 01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:55,800 Speaker 2: it's because it's a black woman show. 1976 01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:59,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's why, like I said, and it might 1977 01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:05,479 Speaker 4: just be me personally. It's almost like sometimes I think 1978 01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:07,439 Speaker 4: pieces could be too much and I'm like. 1979 01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:09,639 Speaker 5: Oh, another thing piece about Insecure And I'm not even 1980 01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:10,599 Speaker 5: gonna lie very biased. 1981 01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:12,559 Speaker 4: I just shut down. I don't care. 1982 01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:15,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand. I like to read this stuff because 1983 01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:17,080 Speaker 2: I do like to hear what people think, and it 1984 01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:19,800 Speaker 2: is art. And like I said, I'm not a person 1985 01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:23,559 Speaker 2: that gets offended by someone else's opinion or shuts down 1986 01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:26,200 Speaker 2: their opinion. I think her opinion is just as valid 1987 01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:28,840 Speaker 2: as my opinion and just as valid as your opinion. 1988 01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:31,280 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of Like I saw how the 1989 01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:35,360 Speaker 2: timeline divided over that come shot what else? 1990 01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:35,599 Speaker 5: Girl? 1991 01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:37,160 Speaker 2: People that was like, girl, that's why you take it 1992 01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:37,760 Speaker 2: into the mouth. 1993 01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:38,879 Speaker 3: Oh you ain't finished. 1994 01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:41,080 Speaker 2: Oh you got a little spiry. You're gonna let a 1995 01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:42,960 Speaker 2: little sperm run it, you know? And I was, and 1996 01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:45,120 Speaker 2: I saw dudes being like he said it was coming. 1997 01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:46,840 Speaker 2: Just damn bitch, what's wrong with him? 1998 01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:46,960 Speaker 5: You know? 1999 01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:47,719 Speaker 3: That kind of shit? 2000 01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:50,639 Speaker 2: And I stayed out of it for the most part 2001 01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:54,320 Speaker 2: because one I feel like, sperm on the face etiquette 2002 01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,400 Speaker 2: is really a matter of the people who receive spurm 2003 01:36:57,479 --> 01:36:57,880 Speaker 2: to the face. 2004 01:36:58,040 --> 01:36:59,439 Speaker 3: I've never received sperm to the fact. 2005 01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:03,920 Speaker 5: It's a personal preference. As somebody that has received sperm 2006 01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:04,479 Speaker 5: to the face. 2007 01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:05,559 Speaker 4: It varies. 2008 01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:09,280 Speaker 5: Sometimes you're like goddamn it, no, and then sometimes you're like, okay, cool. 2009 01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:11,439 Speaker 4: Sometimes you're like, okay, just you get this ship to 2010 01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:13,000 Speaker 4: my mother. If I gotta watch my hell, we got 2011 01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:13,639 Speaker 4: problems today. 2012 01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:17,280 Speaker 2: It varies, right, Yeah, I did not feel comfortable telling 2013 01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:19,479 Speaker 2: people how to feel about sperm being on their face. 2014 01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:22,080 Speaker 2: Come on, saw a lot of dudes real comfortable. You 2015 01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:24,120 Speaker 2: know a lot of dudes real Come now. I don't 2016 01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:26,680 Speaker 2: know they personal lives. I don't know. Maybe they've had 2017 01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,400 Speaker 2: sperm on their faces and they talking from experience. I 2018 01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,960 Speaker 2: personally just felt rather, that's out of my depth. Like 2019 01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:36,920 Speaker 2: I know about sperm shooting etiquette, that's it. I don't 2020 01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:41,000 Speaker 2: know anything about sperm receiving etiquette. So let's just let 2021 01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,760 Speaker 2: that conversation happen without us. It's not everybody got to 2022 01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:44,320 Speaker 2: have opinion on. 2023 01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:46,720 Speaker 5: Everything, right, And it's all it goes back down to 2024 01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:51,599 Speaker 5: all people's personal preference. And you know what, and I've 2025 01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:53,479 Speaker 5: said this for PORM, gonna get a a lot of 2026 01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:56,200 Speaker 5: your niggas fucked up because you know that. 2027 01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:59,120 Speaker 4: The person do pooring, that's what they get paid to do, 2028 01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:01,720 Speaker 4: and you know that that's the thing. 2029 01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:04,920 Speaker 5: But in real goddamn life, you gotta act when you 2030 01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:07,040 Speaker 5: start shooting in all directions. 2031 01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:08,880 Speaker 2: Right, And like I said, I've I've been privy to 2032 01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:12,920 Speaker 2: these conversations where women do talk about especially black women 2033 01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:16,400 Speaker 2: talk about giving head and not Like I said, I 2034 01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:18,599 Speaker 2: have a lot of friends that are women that are black, 2035 01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:20,960 Speaker 2: and you know, some of them are like, yeah, I 2036 01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,280 Speaker 2: don't like that. Shit like it. It makes it feel 2037 01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:25,679 Speaker 2: like I'm not being respected. 2038 01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:29,599 Speaker 4: It makes me feel like, you know, presure behind that right, 2039 01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:30,439 Speaker 4: Like what is he. 2040 01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:32,560 Speaker 2: Gonna think about me afterwards? And shit, it's real to 2041 01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:35,519 Speaker 2: some people. Not everybody agrees that some women that are 2042 01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:37,559 Speaker 2: like I love not much more to suck in a dick, 2043 01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:39,639 Speaker 2: you know. And that's what Timmy was like, I feel 2044 01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:42,800 Speaker 2: like I'm in control girl, you know, like I felt 2045 01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:46,519 Speaker 2: the opinions were represented, but the setness is you identify 2046 01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:48,880 Speaker 2: more with And Lisa has to have the quote unquote 2047 01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:52,480 Speaker 2: write an opinion or she has to have a fulfilling 2048 01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:54,600 Speaker 2: experience at the end of the night that shows that 2049 01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:59,120 Speaker 2: the right thing was to be pro sucking dick. And 2050 01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:01,559 Speaker 2: that's such a year thing to do to the show 2051 01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:06,240 Speaker 2: every week, but it happens every fucking week anyway, y'all 2052 01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:07,719 Speaker 2: keep an eye out for the next episode. 2053 01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:11,400 Speaker 4: Okay, uh, the new session that can be just say. 2054 01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:16,080 Speaker 2: Oh the session ended ship my bad anyway, Yeah, we do, 2055 01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:22,559 Speaker 2: but I do funck. Let me start adding new session anyway, 2056 01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:24,760 Speaker 2: and you have to be a couple of minutes late. 2057 01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:33,240 Speaker 2: That is my bad. Oh nah, there we go. Uh 2058 01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:35,720 Speaker 2: give me one second to get in there. I write 2059 01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:36,719 Speaker 2: everybody back on screen. 2060 01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:38,200 Speaker 5: I see it. 2061 01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:39,479 Speaker 4: I'm getting ready to go over to it. 2062 01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:51,240 Speaker 2: Cool all right, all right, cool, yeah, invite everybody again. 2063 01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:58,040 Speaker 2: All right, man, I tied that horribly. I really I 2064 01:39:58,160 --> 01:39:59,600 Speaker 2: thought we were gonna be able to get it in 2065 01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:02,360 Speaker 2: before time to leave. Let me see and all right, 2066 01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:07,120 Speaker 2: just added you back to the screen. All right, let 2067 01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:10,439 Speaker 2: me uh go to our last stage. Then we'll do 2068 01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:11,840 Speaker 2: sword ratchetess and get out of here. 2069 01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:18,519 Speaker 5: Oh we're not. 2070 01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:36,599 Speaker 2: Live, okay, thank you. There we go. He Indian man 2071 01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:40,439 Speaker 2: chops off a teenage girl's hand with a sword over 2072 01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:43,360 Speaker 2: a mobile phone charger. Dispute ship. 2073 01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:46,360 Speaker 3: A man chopped out the hand of a teenage. 2074 01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:53,600 Speaker 2: Girl, uh with a sword. Christopher Columbus Ship with a 2075 01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:56,080 Speaker 2: sword in a busy marketplace and what people believe was 2076 01:40:56,120 --> 01:41:01,439 Speaker 2: a dispute over a phone charger. Roll heat. Charlie Saya Charcia, thirty, 2077 01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:04,080 Speaker 2: is accused of violently attacking the girl serving her right 2078 01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:06,559 Speaker 2: hand from the wrist with the weapon. The attack, near 2079 01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:12,880 Speaker 2: the city of Lachhimpoor and Uttar, Pradesh, which borders Nepal, 2080 01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:15,600 Speaker 2: also left the victim with injuries to her head and 2081 01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:21,960 Speaker 2: left hand. The Hindu reported that mister Charcia was charged 2082 01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:25,200 Speaker 2: with attempted murder, assaulting a woman with intent to outrage 2083 01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:29,400 Speaker 2: her modesty, and voluntarily causing grievous bodily harm with the 2084 01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:32,519 Speaker 2: dangerous weapon. The girl suffered from significant blood loss, but 2085 01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:35,559 Speaker 2: after eleven hour surgery, her hand was reattached by plastic 2086 01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:40,559 Speaker 2: surgeons at the King George Michael Yeah. She remains under 2087 01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:42,920 Speaker 2: observation in the hospital. Witnesses of Boston to stop their 2088 01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:45,160 Speaker 2: attacker from fleeing the scene and handing him to the police. 2089 01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:48,960 Speaker 2: Locals are said to have mister I've told the police 2090 01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:52,320 Speaker 2: mister Charcia was a girl's neighbor and that she had 2091 01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:54,840 Speaker 2: borrowed a mobile phone charger belonging to his brother. His 2092 01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:57,960 Speaker 2: claimed he became enraged when she refused to return it. 2093 01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:00,439 Speaker 2: Police said the apparent dispute over the phone charger was 2094 01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:03,479 Speaker 2: considered as one possible motive, but the exact cause of 2095 01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:05,639 Speaker 2: the attack cannot yet be determined, and that other theories 2096 01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:08,280 Speaker 2: were being investigated. Family members had complained that the men 2097 01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:10,640 Speaker 2: had also been stalking her all they there you go, 2098 01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:16,280 Speaker 2: fucking men being trash and shit. Neighbors told the hidden 2099 01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:18,320 Speaker 2: news stand Times that the young girl was living in 2100 01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:20,120 Speaker 2: a very poor conditions in a rented home with her 2101 01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:22,760 Speaker 2: blind mother, aileen father, and two elder brothers and a 2102 01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:26,479 Speaker 2: young sister. The district magistrates said aid and shelter will 2103 01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:29,840 Speaker 2: be provided to the girls family following the attack. Damn 2104 01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:34,880 Speaker 2: all right, that's it for today, guys. We'll be back tomorrow. 2105 01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:38,519 Speaker 2: Will we do wine and white folks news? Yes, because 2106 01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:40,960 Speaker 2: we got to get out of here real quick. Until then. 2107 01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:42,439 Speaker 2: I love you, I love you. Wow.