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Speaker 1: with this narrative. Hey everyone, welcome back to Our Purpose,

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Speaker 1: it's not every day that you get to sit down

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the one and only Sir Lewis Hamilton,

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Speaker 1: and in twenty fourteen, those values saw him win BBC's

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Speaker 1: Lewis received both accolades for a second time in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: four is doing incredible work. Please welcome to On Purpose Lewis,

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Speaker 1: When we first connected, that was one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: reasons for me that I saw you using your platform

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Speaker 1: for a bigger purpose. I was like, Oh, that's fascinating,

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Speaker 1: Like that's so interesting to me because that's a choice too.

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Speaker 1: I think today we kind of assume that if someone

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Speaker 1: has a platform, or if someone's you know, number one

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Speaker 1: in their field, or if someone's got followers, that they

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Speaker 1: who has follows should talk about stuff. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case. I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people choose not to. But you were someone that

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Speaker 1: stood out to me massively where I was just like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: this person's really not just winning on the track, but

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Speaker 1: it's thinking about how winning on the track transfers to

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Speaker 1: what you can do off the track because of the influence,

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Speaker 1: because of your network, because of your impact. And I

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Speaker 1: find that to be really the missing link for so

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Speaker 1: many people. Because I always say that your purpose is

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Speaker 1: something not just that makes you happy. It's when you

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Speaker 1: use what makes you happy to serve other people, like

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Speaker 1: when you use it to impact other people's lives. When

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Speaker 1: did that drop for you? Like? When did that click

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Speaker 1: for you? Like? Were you ever? I guess what I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to say is there's a transition when you're saying that, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, winning, like maybe get the nod from my dad,

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Speaker 1: and obviously I was bullied and then I'm winning, but

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Speaker 1: then I'm number one. It's something like, was there a

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Speaker 1: point at which number one didn't satisfy you? Or was

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Speaker 1: there a point at which the success that came from it,

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Speaker 1: or you didn't actually have to get dissatisfied, you just

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Speaker 1: found that there was a better way to be successful.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense? The part that was striking when

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Speaker 1: you're just saying that. For me, it was like, I

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Speaker 1: feel like we often live in fear of what people think,

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Speaker 1: how you're going to be judged, how you're going to

525
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Speaker 1: be received. If you're free, outspoken, you're gonna lose your job,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be fired. I've always been an outspoken person.

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Speaker 1: I think that's just been a quality. I've never been

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Speaker 1: a follower. I don't like to conform to how people

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Speaker 1: expect people of what people expect from you. As I said,

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Speaker 1: I was having a success and I was like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: now I'm on that, I'm at the top. What can

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Speaker 1: I do with it? Yeah? And there are so many causes.

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Speaker 1: There's so many problems out there, and there's so many

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Speaker 1: amazing causes, and which one. You know, there's only one

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Speaker 1: of you, So like what where do you put the focus?

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Speaker 1: And that's take It took a long long time to

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Speaker 1: really find what that was for me. I think for me,

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Speaker 1: education was something that I felt extremely passionate about because

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Speaker 1: I've been out to India. I've been out into some

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Speaker 1: of the really poorest places like Manila and seeing young

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Speaker 1: kids who are like us, but begging for food, not

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Speaker 1: having the same opportunities. And for me, that was that

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Speaker 1: broke my heart and realize how privileged we are and

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Speaker 1: how fortunate we are. It was like, I want to

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Speaker 1: be working with people out there that are trying to

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Speaker 1: create more. You know, there's over a one hundred million

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Speaker 1: kids that don't have access to school education, So how

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Speaker 1: can I get involved in that? So aligning yourself with

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Speaker 1: people that do but I think I was. I was winning,

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Speaker 1: and it was giving me that tip of happiness. But

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Speaker 1: then I would kind of drop back down to normality

552
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Speaker 1: and there was something missing, and it was that purpose really,

553
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Speaker 1: or understanding what that purpose was and understanding what why

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Speaker 1: you've been put here? Why are you beginning the platform

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Speaker 1: that you've that you've been given. Why were the only

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Speaker 1: people of color this whole time? Through it all? And

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Speaker 1: when I started speaking about diversity, people like, oh, you

558
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Speaker 1: want to get more people of coloring as as racing drivers,

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Speaker 1: only twenty of us. So as I know, it's there's

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Speaker 1: forty forty fifty thousand jobs, there's thousands of engineering jobs

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Speaker 1: in the background, and there's such a lack of diversity

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Speaker 1: coming through. I want to be a part of shifting

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Speaker 1: that narrative and shifting that conversation and having people be

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Speaker 1: question themselves and have those difficult conversations with people. So

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Speaker 1: I first I just started by having those difficult conversations

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Speaker 1: with my boss. And one of the things he brings

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Speaker 1: up that he said that hit him hard. I said,

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Speaker 1: have you ever thought of as a white person walking

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Speaker 1: the only white person there. He's like, He's like, I

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Speaker 1: hadn't even thought of that, And I said, well, that's

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Speaker 1: what it's like for someone like me when I'm in

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Speaker 1: the room. You noticed, you noticed it. Out of fifty

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Speaker 1: people in a meeting, you're the only person, the black

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Speaker 1: person there. And it's not because we are less. It's

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00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: because there are these barriers within society through education that

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Speaker 1: are limiting people to be the best they can be.

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Speaker 1: So my job is to be empowered and improvement representation.

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Speaker 1: I'm really really passionate like black equity as well, So

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Speaker 1: that's why I'll go involved with the Denver Broncos. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and usually when I'm in conversation with sponsors or companies,

582
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Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, so, what how diverse is your team?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing about diversity inclusion? How are you

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Speaker 1: creating a better work workspace for people? That's what I

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Speaker 1: want to be a part of. The success can come later,

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00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: and that's that would be along the way. But if

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Speaker 1: you're not asking those questions or you're not tackling those issues,

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Speaker 1: then we're not lighted. And so all of them. Pretty

589
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Speaker 1: much every partner that we have and we have a

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Speaker 1: lot of partners within our team I've asked these really

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Speaker 1: difficult questions and they're like, oh, you know what, but

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Speaker 1: we can do more. I'm like, well, let's do it,

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Speaker 1: you know. So I think I've grown very close with

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Speaker 1: my like Mercedes's dam and they've been so open that

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Speaker 1: we changed the car from silver to black in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: As again I said to them, like, the car has

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Speaker 1: been silver forever. It's always been the silver arrows us

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Speaker 1: And I was like, imagine if we changed the car

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Speaker 1: to black, what that could you know? Us turning it

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Speaker 1: up and arriving. It's how you show up, and it's how,

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Speaker 1: you know, imagine the message we can send. And we

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Speaker 1: had the black car for the whole year and we

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00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: didn't even really talk much about it. We just let

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Speaker 1: it be and we won with it. And that's when

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Speaker 1: I won my seventhealth title with that car. So that's

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Speaker 1: beautiful now. That must have felt special. It was honestly

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Speaker 1: my whole life flash by mine that last lap in Turkey,

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Speaker 1: My whole life, like all the struggles questioning whether you

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Speaker 1: were going to make it or not, just all those doubts,

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Speaker 1: all those fears kind of flash by, you know, through

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Speaker 1: my eyes and came across the line, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I did it, and I want the kids out there

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Speaker 1: to know that you can do it too, you know.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I'm trying to, like every day, just

615
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Speaker 1: try to be encouraging of kids. Yeah, do you do

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Speaker 1: you sometimes feel that we were talking about this a

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Speaker 1: bit earlier, that you know, in other sports, we get

618
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Speaker 1: to see the emotions and the expressions of players that

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Speaker 1: we love or you know, anyone who's on the court

620
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Speaker 1: or the field or the pitch, whereas with you, because

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Speaker 1: we don't get to see that in your eyes in

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Speaker 1: your last lap like that, we can only hear it today,

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Speaker 1: Which is why I'm so grateful to have this moment

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Speaker 1: because obviously, whenever I'm sitting down with someone who's a

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Speaker 1: high performer like you, it's obvious that there's so much

626
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Speaker 1: emotion and preparation and power. But with racing specifically, you

627
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Speaker 1: just don't get to see that. Do you sometimes feel

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Speaker 1: that the only people that can truly relate to you

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Speaker 1: are the people you compete with, because I feel like it's,

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Speaker 1: like you said, there's only twenty of you that are

631
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Speaker 1: racing anyway, it's lonely anyway, Nine people in the world

632
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Speaker 1: have no idea what it feels like to drive a

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Speaker 1: car as fast as you do in the way you

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Speaker 1: do in any comparison, do you sometimes feel that the

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Speaker 1: only people you can relate to the people that are

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Speaker 1: racing against you? And then do you kind of feel

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Speaker 1: is there a loneliness in that experience or is that

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Speaker 1: kind of like a power in that as well? Definitely

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Speaker 1: the other drivers, I do feel that there's more. We

640
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: have a lot more in common than we think, but

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Speaker 1: with so competitive and a lot of us have bid defense,

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Speaker 1: Like you want to beat the guy, but then you

643
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,719
Speaker 1: like the guy. You might like the person outside the car,

644
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: but you can't show that. Like there's this whole psychological

645
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: battle you're having with yourself and getting the wave of

646
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: yourself a lot of the time. So I really feel

647
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: like as an older driver, I'm trying to be more

648
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: like reaching out to youngsters and because they're the future,

649
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm excited to see some of these

650
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: younger drivers are coming through are so so talented. I

651
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: don't know if they've got the best structure around them,

652
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: like I may not, Like I didn't necessarily have the

653
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: ultimate structure that I perhaps have now, So just try

654
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: to be a kind of a positive light to them.

655
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: But naturally, none of them are black, and none of

656
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: them have necessarily faced the same as me. But they've

657
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: faced their own challenges and thinks about respecting that within everybody.

658
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: And I've tried to be create allies necessarily in having

659
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: the difficult conversations with some of them. I mean, I'm

660
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: so grateful for I've had a couple of them that

661
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: really took the knee with me in twenty twenty, just

662
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: on that, you know, my dad was going back to

663
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: the my dad. My dad like, never let me cry

664
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: as a kid. He said, there's a sign of weakness,

665
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: like don't let me ever see you shed a tear.

666
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: So I remember just holding back through those difficult times

667
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: as a kid, holding back most of that stuff. In

668
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, I cried. I hadn't cried for at least

669
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: I think at least ten years, maybe more. It was

670
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: there was a lot of bottle up stuff that came

671
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: up that I had not realized that I don't even

672
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: know about suppressing a pain or a feeling. So I

673
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: remember kind of beaning on my knees, thinking, now, what

674
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: has happened in the world. I've got to I've got

675
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: to be outspoken. I've got to take that chance, because

676
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: if I don't do it, then no one's going to

677
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: do it. If I don't, if I don't take the knee,

678
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: if I don't let people like me know that I

679
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: care and I hear you and I'm with you, and

680
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to do something about it. I'm going to

681
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: risk it all. I don't care if my partners want

682
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: to drop me because I don't want to be associated

683
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: with this narrative. I don't. I'm like, and I literally

684
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: let go of all the fear and that's why I

685
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: went came so forward with it. And I know it's

686
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: not easy for everyone to do that, but I just

687
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: want to really and try to encourage people out there

688
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: too to be themselves, to speak out if they've got

689
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: a problem, if they see in something within the work

690
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: working environment or experiencing something, You've got to be outspoken

691
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: about it. And there's a right way to do it.

692
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 1: But the first day I was going to take the knee,

693
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: I remember, I didn't feel like I could tell my team.

694
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: I was like, because I felt that they wouldn't understand

695
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: how important it is for me to do this. This day.

696
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: So I remember I had my Black Lives Matter a

697
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: shirt hidden and I just wore it out there and

698
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: I went ahead with it, and so no one knew Wow,

699
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: but everyone the sport had built had made all these

700
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: T shirts like we races one slogan, and they gave

701
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: these T shirts to all to everybody. I was like,

702
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm not wearing that, That's not what this is about.

703
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: And so this is what I'm doing. And this was

704
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: around George Floyd, right yeah, And afterwards my team was like, well,

705
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: why if you just told us, we could have prepared

706
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: a better But I had this fear that they would

707
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: try and stop me. Perhaps, but that was just a fear.

708
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: They have been massively supported through the whole thing. In

709
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: My hope was that you know, kids would be watching

710
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: me like what what is that? Why is he taking me? What? What?

711
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: What does that shirt mean? What is going on? Dad? Mum?

712
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: And then the parents being in an open position having

713
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: to explain it. Maybe. But I think what was really

714
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: encouraging for me. I think when we started really getting

715
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: into the whole diversity inclusion. We did the research, there

716
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: was only three percent out of two thousand people in

717
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: the team. There's three percent diversity. So since then we've

718
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: been on this mission, the team have started new projects.

719
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: We've discovered that they the sport generally highs from one

720
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: group of universities which is not diverse, and if there

721
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: are any young black students that go there, that twice

722
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: as unlikely to be hired when they come out compared

723
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: to the counterparts, and also paid less. So that I

724
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: said all these things that perhaps people didn't know that

725
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: commission right, Yeah, and that just was interesting to experience that.

726
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: Now now I'll be working on like a diversity charter

727
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: that all the teams have to be a part of,

728
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: and it's not mine, it's for the sport, and it's

729
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: to encourage those teams because there's still not any diversity

730
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: within you know, you look at Ferrari that I don't

731
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: have hardly any there's most teams don't. But when I

732
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: go back to my team to the factory, normally in

733
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: our marketing department wasn't very diverse initially. And I walked

734
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: in after the pandemic and I started seeing such a

735
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: more diverse group of people. I was really quite emotional

736
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: because I was like, oh my god, there's I'm starting

737
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: to see change. But you don't see that on TV. Yeah,

738
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: So when I talked to the to the bosses of

739
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 1: the sport, I'm like, hey, you know, there's all white

740
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: men facing and me facing the camera at the start

741
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: of the race. Where are the women? Where are the

742
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: people of color? We've got to be showing. Some young

743
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: kids are watching and they're like, Oh, there's a place

744
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: for me there. I can be there. I can be

745
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: an engineer, I can be a mechanic or whatever it

746
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: may be, and even for young girls, or I can

747
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: be a racing driver or an engineer or strategist or

748
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: whatever you know. So representations so so key to inspire

749
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: in the young youth, especially in these industries that they

750
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: already have less access to, right, Like, that's the point

751
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: that it's not just it's not just representation because you

752
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: want them to even have the opportunity. It's the fact

753
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: that there's just no access point, which is what you're

754
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: trying to create. I think what I find really beautiful

755
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: about you doing it is you're doing it though when

756
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: you're like I'm having all my emotions come up at

757
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: the same time. It's trying to be a voice for

758
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: other people. And when you're saying like I'm taking a

759
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: knee because I know I have to make a stand externally,

760
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: but internally, you're taking a knee because so much of

761
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: your own stuff from years ago is coming back up.

762
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: Like that must be quite hard when you're That strikes

763
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: me as something that's really inspiring about what you did

764
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: is that you were going through your own healing at

765
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: the same time it's trying to do healing for the world.

766
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: There is so much healing to do, right, and I

767
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: was completely oblivious that that I needed healing. I needed

768
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: to really peel back some of those layers. I think

769
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: for people that turn into tune into race and you

770
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier on but when you we arrive, everything is

771
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 1: set up. There is work that we're doing in the background.

772
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: Naturally people don't see. They just see a show, but

773
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: there is an unbelievable amount of work that goes on

774
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: in the background. When I talk to people that talk

775
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: about how much weight you lose, and but they're like, yo,

776
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: you just sit in the car and you drive. There's

777
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: this huge psychological and emotional roller coaster that you're going

778
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: through that it will be really hard for people to comprehend.

779
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: And you would mention about all these other athletes, you

780
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: see their faces in other sports you can't see because

781
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: we've got helmet on. But you go through this roller

782
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: coaster ride in the race, and then you get out

783
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: and the cameras right in your face. You're not prepared

784
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: for that. Your emotions are shot, particularly if you failed

785
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 1: or feel like you failed, and you don't always answer

786
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: the right way. If you wear your heart and your sleeve,

787
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: people don't necessarily like that necessary always people take advantage

788
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: of that. So then you build up all these protection mechanism,

789
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: mechanisms that's not necessarily you and at the core, but

790
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: what'll be the safest thing for you, you know what

791
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean? Like I read something the other day about

792
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: it's like three steps of you. And there's one the

793
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: one of which you present who you present. There's you

794
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: and your who you are to you and your family

795
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: and friends. And then there's one the part of you,

796
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: the real you that no one ever gets to see.

797
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: And I think just today in today's world, it's so

798
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: vicious on social media. It's the media can be you know,

799
00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: can really tear you apart, and you build up, you know,

800
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: like you make a mistake in something you say in

801
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: the media, and your ridicule fear, you never do it again.

802
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: So you build up and you got more and more

803
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: on your shell, and you become harder for people to

804
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: really relate to. I think for me, what I've realized

805
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: in his last few years is really pilling back those

806
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: layers and you know, letting people know that I grew

807
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 1: up in the council state. I you know, I've lived

808
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: on the sofa with my my parents. We've had those struggles.

809
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: There's successful people out there, you see, they too have

810
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: had those things where we need to show that young

811
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: kids who are going through that same thing that, oh

812
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: I if he can get there or they can get there,

813
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: then it must be possible for me to h And

814
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: like being showing your vulnerability, that's something that I really

815
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: struggled to to do for a long time, and like

816
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: today that's something I think. I'm a lot more open

817
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: than I've ever ever been. I'm not living in fear

818
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: every day, and that's like the most that's the most

819
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: impowered thing I think for me personally, I'm living a

820
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: much happier life because I'm I'm a lot more open.

821
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah it's libery, yeah, absolutely, Yeah, it's libering when you

822
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: finally feel like you're not trapped or you're hiding held

823
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: or yeah, or hiding yeah or hiding. My favorite quotes

824
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: is from my Angelo when she said we are all

825
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: powerful beyond measure, and that really hit home also for

826
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: me that that's my favorite quote because and I have

827
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: a tattooed because really we are so we do limit ourselves.

828
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: We get in our own way right along with the

829
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: other things that get in our way, But a lot

830
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: of our fear stops us from driving forwards, from progressing.

831
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: And that's why I do the craziest things. I jump

832
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: out planes. Yeah, you've done what eight jumps? Yeah? Like

833
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: I just just I love challenging myself and doing things

834
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 1: even though there's maybe fear there. But overcoming that fear

835
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: is like it's the best feeling when you overcome it

836
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: and you realize that she was all a bunch of

837
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: nonsense in your head. I want to encourage So all

838
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: all of my friends, I'm like, he just go and

839
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: do this today they're like, are you crazy? My dad

840
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: don't mean I think as a kid, my dad was

841
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: like is he really my son? Because I wouldn't do

842
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: any of these things. And even still today, I still

843
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: find that he's actually done skydiving movie my dad. He

844
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: said he would never do it, but he did it. So,

845
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: but driving two hundred miles per hour, it is probably

846
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: one of the scariest things that you do all the time.

847
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: Like that's well for you anymore, no things. I never

848
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: had that fear as a kid, and I was just

849
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: never you know, I think if you go on a

850
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: ski slope and you see these kids coming fight, kids

851
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: are generally fearless, right, Yeah, But I think as you

852
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: go get older, yes, you start, you hurt yourself a

853
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: little bit, you start protecting yourself more and more. But

854
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: I just don't have that. I think I feel like

855
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: that was something that just wasn't necessarily put in me.

856
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm terrified as spiders, Yeah, that's the only thing. But

857
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: when I'm doing two hundred miles an hour, that's actually

858
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: when I'm most at peace. I would say, Yeah, it's

859
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: like I'm like flowing. It's like my that's my element,

860
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: and that's like I love doing what I do. It's

861
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: could be really really hard when I stop racing. I've

862
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: been doing for thirty years. I'm thirty seven. They've been

863
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: racing thirty years. And when you stop, Like, what's going

864
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: to match that. Nothing's going to ever probably a match,

865
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: being in the stadium or being at the race and

866
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: being at the pinnacle of the sport, being at the

867
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: front of the grid, or or coming through the grid

868
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: that motion that I get there. When I do stop,

869
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: that will be there will be a big hole. Yeah.

870
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to generally focus on things, find things

871
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: that are going to replace that that are also could

872
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: be just as rewarding. And that's like mission forty four

873
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: for me, meeting kids at schools, having these conversations with

874
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: families and parents who clearly are going through difficult times

875
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: and want to create the best opportunity for their kids,

876
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: encouraging them and there like, Okay, I've been there too,

877
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: look where I got, so you can get there. It's

878
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: just going to work through it. That's for me, that's

879
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 1: way more rewarding then winning the race, so much more. Yeah,

880
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: that's I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that everyone's

881
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: going to get getting to hear this. I felt you're

882
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 1: the only and I know you know you're talking about

883
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: when that happens, But it's brilliant that you're planning already

884
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: because you can see how so many athletes mentally when

885
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: they know their career has somewhat of a shelf life

886
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: or a somewhat of a time span, like it's so hard,

887
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: it's it's just completely But I remember, you're reminding me

888
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: of when I had the fortune of sitting down with

889
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, And I said, sat down with him when

890
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: he'd already retired, and I interviewed him so great, so jealous.

891
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: He was one of those people that was not upset

892
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: being retired. He loved it because he knew that his

893
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: mission for him was to make these short movies and

894
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: make all these sports based content to inspire kids to

895
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: tell their stories and to help them find better stories.

896
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: And so it's exactly what you're saying where he wasn't

897
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: He's one of those people that I've met. He was

898
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: not sad about He was so happy. He was so pumped.

899
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: That's what I'm working to us. Yeah, because he knew

900
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: that he had a mission and he had a ups

901
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: and he'd gone and won an Oscar for a short

902
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 1: movie that he'd made, and you know, he was creating

903
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: content to inspire kids and that's where his heart was.

904
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: And of course watching his daughters play, and so I'm

905
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: super inspired by him. Yeah, but yeah, like when you

906
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: said that, that's what I remembered. And he was in

907
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: the same boat. He was like, I always wanted to

908
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: script write and never had time to script, right, he said,

909
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: I was always playing basketball, and he goes, but then

910
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: I started scriptwriting and I got a coach, and then

911
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: I was writing and getting better as a writer. And

912
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: because well, I think when I've spoken to other athletes,

913
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: that we focused so much on that being the best

914
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: you can be and that one thing that the other

915
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: things that you also love, like if it's playing an

916
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: instrument or if it's writing scripts, like they all falls

917
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: everything falls away, And yeah, how can you can't compartmentalize

918
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: staying in the in the zone and the focus lane,

919
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: but also building up some of those other skills and

920
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: discovering other passions. You know, people's You've heard people tell

921
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: Labron shut up and dribble, like, yeah, that's there's a

922
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: lot of people put you in the box and say this,

923
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 1: you can only do one thing. But as I've seen,

924
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm spoken to some people that are active and retired,

925
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: a lot of them say, when particularly when they retired,

926
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: that they everything kind of fell apart, like everything fell

927
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: to the ground. They had nothing to back it up with,

928
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: and they hadn't discovered what they're doing next. So then

929
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: they go through this emotional journey of discovery. But it

930
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: takes time. So I'm like trying to learn from those

931
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: things and applying them and find the other things that

932
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm passionate about. So I generally feel today that I

933
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: have lots of things in the pipeline that when I

934
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: do stop, it's going to be like so grateful, but

935
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: I have something better that I'm moving on to. But

936
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: I have no doubts that I, oh, me and my

937
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: dad will always have to go to the go cart

938
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: track or something. You know, I'm always going to be competitive.

939
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: I can't. That's literally a strain in my DNA that's

940
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: just never gonna gonna shift. We're competitive at everything. I'm

941
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: happy to hear that. It's it's it's I'm sure that's refreshing.

942
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: It's great for people to also he that, even to

943
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: inspire young people or inspire anyone who's gotten to a

944
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: place in their career where they know that there's a

945
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: certain moment where things are going to wind down, but

946
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: then they're going to transition. I think I don't think

947
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: we celebrate the transitions enough in life, and life is

948
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: made up of transition, absolutely, and people think that it's

949
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 1: maybe less or something, but it's yeah, it's not about that, yeah, exactly.

950
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: So it's fascinating you found that. What are some of

951
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: these like you said, like, I'm you know, I've been

952
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: doing jumps to be doing this with my friends, What

953
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: are some of the routines that you've put into place

954
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: to help you manage your mindset? Because I feel like

955
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: you're You said that being at two hundred miles per

956
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: hour for the duration of a race is like being

957
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: in flow. For you, that means you're extremely comfortable with

958
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: your own thoughts, extremely comfortable with being in a high stress,

959
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: high pressure environment, but being just with your own self.

960
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: Talk to us about how you I mean, it sounds

961
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: like that's always been the case. But what have you

962
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: done to become more and more comfortable with that? Yeah?

963
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: I think naturally there's a natural ability, right, But like

964
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: being out to focus for an hour and forty five

965
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: minutes without making mistakes, and that's that's literally insane. It's unbelievable.

966
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: Dealing with the pressures A friend actually asked me last

967
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: night because I talk about we lose a lot of race,

968
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: a lot of weight in the race, yes, like sometimes

969
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: you can lose up to ten pounds like four key lows,

970
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: and people like, whoa, I need to be a race

971
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: particularly in America, They're like, oh, I need to be

972
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: a racing driver for the weight loss. But with this questions,

973
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: there's my friend asked me on the day, there's like

974
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 1: where does the where does the weight go? Like, yeah,

975
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: because my suit doesn't because afterwards I weighed less. But

976
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: the I'm like, so it must evaporated somewhere. I've got

977
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 1: to figure out where all that weight actually truly goes

978
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: because it obviously is in sweat. But that's like messed

979
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: my mind up now. Um, but the suit definitely is

980
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: obviously a little bit heavier. But um, it's about gaining tools.

981
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: And I think as when I was younger, I didn't

982
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: have I knew how to arrive at the race. I

983
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: channeled the so this emotion that I had through whatever

984
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: those difficulties were into my driving. So it's laser focus.

985
00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: Like if you watch a video for me when I

986
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: was five years old and blue pizza that you see,

987
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm just laser focused, but being able to control emotions,

988
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: being now to be calm and present, staying centered. There

989
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: are loads of obviously different methods that people can use.

990
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: The things that I try to that I've started to

991
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: incorporate over the years more in my life. It's things

992
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: like stretching, things like yoga and meditation has been a

993
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 1: real that for me was something that I never thought

994
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: that that I kind of turned a blind eye to

995
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: it when I was younger. I thought that's not gonna

996
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: be helpful. But being able to sit still for a

997
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: second and listen to the noises around you and understand

998
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: you want to tap into that kind of in a

999
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: child or whatever it may be. That's for me being

1000
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: taking that moment for yourself each day, treating yourself with

1001
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: love and being kind to yourself, you know, because I

1002
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: think for a long time I wasn't kind to myself.

1003
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: And that's been a process doing things that being purposeful

1004
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: and having real setting intentions each day, no matter how

1005
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: big or small. And you know, I wake up and

1006
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: looking in the mirror brushing your teeth, then stop for

1007
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: a second's sake, this today is going to be the day.

1008
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: Today's going to be great. And no matter what you're

1009
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: faced with, you know, just wherever you come out with. Yeah,

1010
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: talking to yourself. Also speaking to people, I think is

1011
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: very important. I think as a kid, as I said,

1012
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like it could speak to people. I

1013
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: didn't feel like I could tell my mom about these experiences.

1014
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: I felt embarrassed. I can't tell my dad, so I

1015
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: thought he would think less of me. I couldn't talk

1016
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: to any of the teachers, can tell my most of

1017
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: my friends, most of them weren't particularly of color. So

1018
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: but finding learning to be open and speak to people,

1019
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 1: find someone to speak to, whether it's a therapist or whatever,

1020
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: that's that's been a huge help. I don't not necessarily

1021
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: have a therapist as such, for someone that I'm able

1022
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: to then just have shootership with basically, yeah, and confide

1023
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: in and trust Like trust has been something that I've

1024
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: never had and didn't trust anybody through those experiences I

1025
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 1: had as a kid, and it's been very very hard

1026
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,479
Speaker 1: to build trust for people. But creating allies, finding things

1027
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: that are that you have in common with people like

1028
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: my boss, for example, him and I just breaking each

1029
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: other down and then just having realizing that was similar

1030
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: in many many ways but also very different. But that's

1031
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: not what should divide us. We can then be allies.

1032
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: And so that's why we're working being the most diverse team.

1033
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: We're working on pushing we have. We've studied Ignite, which

1034
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: is about getting you know, improving that pipeline of into

1035
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: motor sport for people from underserved communities, and there's so

1036
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: much work to do. You're doing it though, Man, I'm

1037
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 1: trying to. I'm trying to, you know, to the point

1038
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: you were asking earlier, has enough been done? Absolutely not

1039
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: in the industry. Yeah, it's like you don't feel that. Yeah,

1040
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: And it's not only another industry, it's everywhere. And is

1041
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: that your goal just just sort in the industry and

1042
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: then expand out or you're starting you're starting across the

1043
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: board anyway. Yeah. Yeah, Well, with the team where it's

1044
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: we started an organization which called Ignite, which we both fund,

1045
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: and that is focused on the sport motor sport in general.

1046
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: But Mission forty four is focused on a much you know,

1047
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: societal challenges and barriers and education and um. That's focused

1048
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: in the UK at the moment, but I want to

1049
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: bring that over to the States absolutely, Um, you know,

1050
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: hopefully by at least twenty twenty four. Um. Also just

1051
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: been to Africa and there is so much beauty there

1052
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: and I really really want to have an you really

1053
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: want to help there as well. So yeah, UM, we

1054
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: will continue to expand. But we're one of the one

1055
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: of the few black founding nonprofit organizations in the UK,

1056
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: and with black CEO for example, a very diverse group

1057
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: of people. UM, and just having a conversations with people

1058
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: are just what a diverse workforce means and how that

1059
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: band can benefit you when you have people from different

1060
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: backgrounds or coming up with a diverse, diverse thought and creation.

1061
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: It's that's how you have more success. Yeah, it's a

1062
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: it's a no brainer when you hear it and you're

1063
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: just like, wow, that makes so much sense, and creativity

1064
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: is better and you'd be able to come up with

1065
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: far more innovative ideas and you've got so many more

1066
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: cultures now being celebrated involved, and I feel like it's

1067
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: it's interesting to me that the world hasn't cough on

1068
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: with that yet, Like it's it's interesting that even despite

1069
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: their being progressed, there's not enough progress. But what is

1070
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: the block? Like, what is the stop? Is it a mindset.

1071
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: Is it just habits and laziness? Like what is the

1072
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: actual Like if you got to the core of it

1073
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: from everyone you've been speaking to, like, what are you?

1074
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: What is the issue? Is the issue that? Yeah? Is

1075
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: the issue just laziness and just this is the way

1076
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: things have always been? Or is it? Or is there

1077
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: actually like a set up? I don't have the answers

1078
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: to it. I ask that question all the time, and

1079
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: I come up lots of different theories in my mind.

1080
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, maybe people don't just don't care. Maybe

1081
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: people's problems are so big that they don't have time

1082
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: to focus on other things. And it's hard enough just

1083
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: to do the thing that you're focused on, or just

1084
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: overcoming the issue that you're overcoming. So how am I

1085
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: going to have more time to to speak about these things?

1086
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: Why should I take the risk and risk my next step?

1087
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: And so I feel like it's about learning to be selfless, right,

1088
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: and which is difficult to do if you're not being

1089
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: loving yourself and not in a good place. So I

1090
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: think it all comes to us at hopefully at time,

1091
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: at a certain point in our lives. But also, you know,

1092
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 1: we live in a time where like social media is

1093
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: so it's such a dangerous. It's such a powerful tool,

1094
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: but it's also can be so dangerous and so dividing.

1095
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: And I see people out there today, and there's people

1096
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 1: that I admire that I'm that I would follow, and

1097
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: I'd be like, how are they projecting something that's not

1098
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: necessarily helpfully for you? For people out there? How are

1099
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: they projecting they're not using this platform to be more

1100
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: inspirational or be more positive, And there's loads of that

1101
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: are But then I don't. You can't judge you. So

1102
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: that's their journey. All you can continue to do is

1103
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,959
Speaker 1: try to you know, with that Mariangela quote is about

1104
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: being shining in your light as bright as you can

1105
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: possibly get it, and hope that by doing it you

1106
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: I think you automatically encourage the people around you to

1107
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: want to do the same. And I never truly understood

1108
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: that till I see the team that I work with,

1109
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: how we all inspire each other. How with this year,

1110
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: for example, we've had the twenty twenty two has been

1111
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 1: one of the hardest years for us as a team,

1112
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: as we didn't build a great car and we've had

1113
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: our struggles as many people do, and how we've had

1114
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: to all come closer and the relationship I've had with

1115
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 1: people that I've worked with this team for ten years,

1116
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: and there's conversations we've had this year. People have opened

1117
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: up like they've never opened up before. People have cried

1118
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: like it's been It's been beautiful to see and I

1119
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: feel like it's some a far better team than we've

1120
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: ever been before because we're living with intention, we're actually

1121
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: talking about impact. That everyone in the team's going to

1122
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: had diversity inclusion training. No one's been kind of like,

1123
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not going through that class. Why do

1124
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: I have to go and learn diversity and inclusions about

1125
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: it and why it doesn't impact me? Now people like

1126
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: I understand it doesn't I wouldn't necessarily notice it, but

1127
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: I want to understand it more so I can be

1128
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: better in my working environment. It's been unbelievable. That's amazing. Also,

1129
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: leaders within our sport are now where we are on

1130
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: the road to being a more diverse and more inclusive sport.

1131
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: But I think my job is to continuously make sure

1132
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: that that that same the effort that we're putting in

1133
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: now doesn't kind of fall away and become kind of

1134
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, just because it was trending. Yeah, yeah, that

1135
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: is actually something that's on the top of the list.

1136
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: Sustainability is on the top of our list. And like

1137
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: real true core values, we don't go out of our way. Well,

1138
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: you know, because a lot of people are. It's very

1139
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: easy to kind of be led by the money or success.

1140
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: But making sure you stick to your core values is

1141
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: so true. So it goes back to what you said though,

1142
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: that that's what real leaders do. Like leaders don't follow

1143
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: what's trending. Leaders have focused on transformation and then they're

1144
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: dedicated to transformation and they're going to keep doing it

1145
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: until they see a change, whereas followers follow trends and

1146
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: oh it's not trending now, it doesn't matter, we'll focus

1147
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: on something else. But you know, obviously it's so clearly

1148
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: just listening to you today, and it's amazing because and

1149
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: that's why I'm so glad I've had this opportunity to

1150
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: talk to you, because I can hear just how deeply

1151
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: dedicated you are to this and how it's at your core.

1152
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: It's like it's everything that comes out of your pause

1153
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: today is just you know, which is which is really

1154
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: special to see a value being embodied. Like to empower

1155
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: other people, you have to embody the value first. It

1156
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: doesn't just you don't just go around empowering people. And

1157
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: so to hear how your soul and heart is like

1158
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: completely a sponge for this stuff and then to wanting

1159
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 1: to go and share it with the world, it's really

1160
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: remarkable man. Thank you. Yeah. Well, I mean I'm by

1161
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: far perfect, No, yeah, I know, And I think that's like,

1162
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: it's not about being perfect. It's about just every day,

1163
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: one step at the time, trying to be better, trying

1164
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: to do more, and learning a lot about myself. I've

1165
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: had to break myself down in order to be able

1166
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: to be better. And what do you mean by breaking

1167
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: yourself down? Well, just when you when I told you

1168
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: about like all those barriers you put up over time

1169
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: to protect yourself and then kind of like knocking those

1170
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: barriers down. And it's enabled me to connect with more people.

1171
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: It's enabled me to realize my place in the world.

1172
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: And I don't feel like I don't belong anymore. I

1173
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, I've got a place and I've

1174
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: got a purpose. And that's I think a lot people

1175
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: are struggling to find that purpose. But it's okay, you

1176
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: will find it. Do not give up, keep getting up,

1177
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: you know, like just keep saying those things to yourself,

1178
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: and you will eventually find it. And you know, you're

1179
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: already living in your purpose and having such a huge

1180
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: impact on so many people, you know, telling stories, which

1181
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: is it's amazing to see. I started this production company

1182
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: inspired by like Kobe and somebody out there, but stories

1183
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: for me, storytelling. I watched a lot of movies. I

1184
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: don't know about you, but yeah, I love movies, especially

1185
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: sports movies. Yeah. Like when I go home, I'll like,

1186
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: you know, order to take away or make myself and

1187
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: past or something like that, and then I put the

1188
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: plate in front of me and I can't eat till

1189
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: I found something to watch, Like my escape is watching

1190
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: the movie. And I always like to find something hopefully inspiring. Ye.

1191
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: But the reason I created this production company because you know,

1192
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: until recently, we didn't have any people of color of superheroes.

1193
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: We I think these Sori's storytelling is so so important

1194
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: for people out there, for inspiring people, and and I

1195
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: want to make sure that in and everything that I do,

1196
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: every project that I work on, is with a diverse workforce,

1197
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: like I'm doing this for one movie with Brad Pitt

1198
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: and Joe Kazinski and um, but my job is to

1199
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: make sure that that is diverse behind the camera as

1200
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: it is on screen. The story is empowering and uplifting. Um,

1201
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: it's not. There's no bs in terms of the racing,

1202
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: and hopefully one kid will watch it and more and

1203
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: feel empowered to go and do something great. Absolutely, I

1204
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: love that, man. I'm so glad you're doing that, because

1205
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: when you said do I like movies, the movie that

1206
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: came to my mind was Race? Have you seen Race?

1207
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: Because yeah, so like that. The story is unbelievable. But

1208
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: when you watch the movie as well, it's unbelievable to

1209
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: see what Jesse Owens did, like to think that he

1210
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: had to go. I can't even imagine. I can't, you know,

1211
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,439
Speaker 1: you just can't imagine. If everyone's not saying the movie

1212
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: you have to go. It's just one of those movies

1213
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: that's like, how do you do that? Like how do

1214
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: you go and race in Nazi German? Like I haven't.

1215
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: It must have been terrifying, terrifying, And you know, there's

1216
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: there's so many great stories like that that are out

1217
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: there that need telling. Um, continuously telling yeah, yeah, forty

1218
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: two is also um. But yeah, there are therese these

1219
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: really unique people out there. I think for me being

1220
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: in this sport, being the only one and being the first,

1221
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: is that is that has been lonely, and that has

1222
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: been really really a difficult thing to kind of understand

1223
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: and through my life. And there are many many people

1224
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: like Jesse for example, being the first and only at

1225
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 1: the time, you know, I've taken huge inspiration from him.

1226
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: Nelson Mandela was like, oh, he's one of my biggest,

1227
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: biggest inspirations. Um. It was so so fortunate to get

1228
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: to meet him when I was I was like twenty

1229
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: three or something. Oh wow, what was that like? Yeah,

1230
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: it was mind blowing. I mean when you when you

1231
01:02:58,120 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: then I've got to fone one and you have this

1232
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: sess all these things come and you don't even You've

1233
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: dreamed of being a racing driver, but you didn't dream

1234
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: that all the other things, of all the other things

1235
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: that come along, like meeting other unbelievable people. I went

1236
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: to Nelson Mandela's ninetieth birthday in London and I was

1237
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: sat on his table in this huge room full of

1238
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: like Bill Clinton was there, like Denzel Washington was there

1239
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: open wind fruits, sat right next to me, Like all

1240
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: these people that you would never ever in a million

1241
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: years dream of think you would ever get to meet,

1242
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: and then you discover they're also just human beings with

1243
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: feelings and with emotions and with their own challenges. But

1244
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: I was so young at the time. It was I

1245
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: don't even recognize myself. When I look back at me

1246
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: seven years ago, I see a shell of me. And

1247
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: I think I looked today and see myself and know

1248
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: myself so much more. And that's again, that's an empowering

1249
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: experience to be in. But I walked into the room

1250
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: and met him, and he sat his chair and it

1251
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: was like walking into I was like or like a king,

1252
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: you know, in his silk shirt was his aura was

1253
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: something you could see his aura, his smile, he was beaming.

1254
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: That was the most probably the most impactful day for

1255
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: me as a as a youngster. Wow, Lewis, it's unbelievable

1256
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: talking to you. I mean, what you've achieved on the

1257
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: track after track, and now I'm even more excited to

1258
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: see you continue to achieve as your journey continues. Because

1259
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to say this and I don't say this often,

1260
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: and I genuinely my team can vouch for and everyone

1261
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: else can listen back to any episode. I think you're

1262
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: one of the most on purpose people I've ever interviewed.

1263
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and I genuinely like it. Just there's

1264
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 1: nothing else that comes from your being apart from what

1265
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: your purpose currently is with Mission forty four, and it's

1266
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: it's really remarkable to meet someone who's so on purpose.

1267
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: I don't I genuinely don't have that experience. And the

1268
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: only person you reminded me of was Kobe. He had

1269
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: it too. When was around him, there was no there

1270
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: was nothing else. It wasn't like he missed anything. He

1271
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: was at peace. It was it was peace with purpose,

1272
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: you know. And you have that same aura in spirit

1273
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Speaker 1: from from at least my experience. Thank you so much,

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01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: so kind of you. Yeah, and I really mean that.

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01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 1: I really mean that. It's incredible. So we end every

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01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: episode with a fast five, which means every question has

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01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum okay,

1278
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: And we asked these same questions to every guest that's

1279
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: ever been on the show. I should be prepared for

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01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: that because I've seen you well, the first question is

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01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: what's the best advice you've ever heard or received. I

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01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: think it was literiely my dad, never give up. That's

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01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: been like the slogan in the back of my mind

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01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: every single day. The other one would be just that

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01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: you will always be learning, and that's what I learned

1286
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,479
Speaker 1: from Nelsmandella. He was like, I'm nineteen, I'm still learning today,

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01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: and like, I was like, what can you tell me?

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01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm still learning today, and it's okay to

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01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 1: be learning. You're always going to be learning something new

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01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: and growing. So wow, that's beautiful, very like wow, but

1291
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: like that was pretty basic. But it's not. It's it's

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01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: powerful knowing he said that. Yeah, as in the fact

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01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: that he said that on his ninety Yeah, it's like

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01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people. I feel like a lot of

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01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: people feel by nineties, especially him. He has so much

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01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: wisdom to share. Yeah, but the fact that his wisdom

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01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: was I'm just learning that, yeah, I'm still learning. That's

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01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: pretty cool. All right. Second question, now, what's the worst

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01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: advice you ever heard or received? Give up? The opposite? Yeah, yeah,

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01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: literally the worst bit of advice and it wasn't I mean,

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01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: it wasn't necessary advice. But when I was younger, there

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01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: was other parents of other racing drivers I was racing against.

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01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: I remember this one guy and he's like, she just

1304
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: you just don't have it. You should just give up.

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01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: Their parents say, their parents A grown man in these

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01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: forties or fifties told me that, And I was eight,

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01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: told you told me to my face. And I remember

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01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: just being so like, what am I supposed to do that?

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01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: What do you mean give up? What was the reason?

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01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: I would imagine because I was beating his kid. Maybe

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01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't. I never really thought of what the reason

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01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: would be. And the same with teachers. You know, what

1313
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: is this crap? You know you're you're terrible at this,

1314
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: You're never gonna go to the next set, You're never

1315
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: gonna amount to anything, and why are you even here?

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01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: How a teacher tell me that? And Wow, it broke

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01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: me down so much. Question number three, how do you

1318
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: deal with loss? And how do you deal with a win?

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01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: I think success is, as I mentioned your earlier short

1320
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: lived success is there's a lot less leaned in success.

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01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: It's like the tip of the iceberg. It's the losses

1322
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: and it's the failures. And this is the continuoucy, just

1323
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: the perseverance that you're needed, that you need to do.

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01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: Like I love that image of the iceberg where you

1325
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: see the sea level in the iceberg on the top

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01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: that everyone sees, but below is what people don't get

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01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: to see it, and it's it's relevant for every single

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01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 1: person out there. It's fine in your core. It's letting

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01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: yourself know, it's okay to feel the pain, it's okay

1330
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: to accept that your failures and you know, put it

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01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: on you. It's like it's just another another notch on

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01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: your belt that is going to make you stronger. And

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01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: just known that that is the case. I've failed so

1334
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: many more times than I've succeeded so many more and

1335
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: that people don't even know maybe necessarily about or see.

1336
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: And still today I'm making those failure those mistakes and

1337
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 1: or making mistakes, but I know that that's that's a

1338
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: part of the journey. That's that's what I'm then harnessing

1339
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: and that's what's making me stronger. All right, Question number

1340
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: four out of five. What's something that you thought you

1341
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: valued but you don't value anymore? Im material stuff at

1342
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: some stage and you actually realize they're not important and

1343
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: we live in such a materialistic world, so learning to

1344
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: detach yourself from that and know that it's moments with

1345
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: special people, it's moments with your family, with your loved ones,

1346
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: with your friends, that are what you get to take

1347
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: with you when you stop, you know, when life comes

1348
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 1: to an end, right. I truly believe that it's those

1349
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: memories that are what yeah, memories of you also which lingers,

1350
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 1: not what you have or you were able to attain.

1351
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: So I think that was something that took me a

1352
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: long time to learn. And whilst I still have things

1353
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't have, I've actually tried to unclutter my life

1354
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: because I remember my dad used to call me into

1355
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: the garage and used to go through all the crap

1356
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: that he would keep. I don't know if you're that

1357
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: your parents do the same thing, jeez. I remember used

1358
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: to call me and it was the worst day every

1359
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: when I to help him clean out the garage. But

1360
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: we hold on to so many things, right, So just

1361
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: decluttering your life making it more simple. That's why I

1362
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,759
Speaker 1: love to go and surfing. That's like the most tranquil

1363
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 1: kind of thing that I get to do, sit in

1364
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 1: the ocean and sometimes just sit and ponder about life,

1365
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: what I'm going to do next, And that's my getaway.

1366
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 1: I think people have to find that balance of work

1367
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: because if you just work, work, work, work, and you

1368
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: don't replenish your energy with positive things, then you will

1369
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: just continue to be breaking yourself down. So try and

1370
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: find that balance. I think everyone needs to do that. Yeah,

1371
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: that's beautiful, surfing, skydiving. There's yours fifth and final question.

1372
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: If you could create one law that everyone in the

1373
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: world had to follow, what would it be? Holy crap? Uh.

1374
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 1: One of the things that I'm like, I struggle with

1375
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: every day is and it's just how life isn't It's

1376
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: been the way for thousands of years that there is

1377
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 1: such a disparity between wealthy and the poor. And you know,

1378
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: you still when you drive around La there's still so

1379
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: many people living on the streets. There should you shouldn't

1380
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 1: be able to have billions, right, I think there should

1381
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: there should be a limit to how much you can

1382
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: have because there's enough to go around to everyone. So

1383
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 1: somehow create a law that creates more equality. Yeah, and

1384
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 1: equal access to every for everyone. You know, I don't

1385
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: know how that you would implement that law. That's all good,

1386
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 1: but like, jeez, man, I've met kids that are starving. Yeah, same,

1387
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 1: and you think, oh, God, like how we are so

1388
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: so lucky, so many of us. Knowing that and not

1389
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:06,799
Speaker 1: taking advantage of your every day is so so important.

1390
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 1: It does? What law? Would you change? It does? No?

1391
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: I think that's beautiful. That's what I mean. We've yeah,

1392
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: I mean now now you've feel that's where you did that.

1393
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 1: If I had to create a law in the world

1394
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: that everyone had to follow, this is at least my

1395
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 1: today onser, and maybe it would change as well, is

1396
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: it kind of? And it's inspired by what we're talking about.

1397
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: I think I wish at school the law was that

1398
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: every child had to learn about emotional mastery to understand

1399
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: how to understand other people's emotions and understand their emotions

1400
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 1: and take that into consideration when making decisions. And if

1401
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: every child was given that exposure to emotional mastery, then

1402
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: people would just have tools of how to deal with

1403
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: their own pain and someone else's pain, and how to

1404
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: deal with when your parents are going through pain, because

1405
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: I feel like pain is the issue we have any

1406
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: pain today by you. You're so right, it's inspired by you.

1407
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: It's going back to education. That's just why, like when

1408
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: you go to school, you don't learn all. They don't

1409
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: prepare you enough for what's to come, not at all.

1410
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: And and and that stapping into mental health as you

1411
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: mentioned exactly, that's exactly yeah, And that's kind of where

1412
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 1: my purpose is, right, Like, my purpose is that feeling

1413
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 1: of you know, when I went on lived as a monk,

1414
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 1: that's where I got exposed to emotional mastery, Like that

1415
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: was the goal of what monk training was about. And

1416
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: I was twenty one twenty two when I did that. Wow,

1417
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: that's still young. There's a lot about that shows a

1418
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: lot about you. Yeah, yeah, but it was it was

1419
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: kind of like a fascination that I had. I was

1420
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: just like, well, if I can't understand my mind, then

1421
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: how can you live life like that? That? So, so

1422
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: anyway it comes from but it comes from what you're

1423
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: saying that the education that needs to happen at a

1424
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: younger level. So Lewis has been such an honor and

1425
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: a pleasure talking today. Man, it's a huge responsibility that

1426
01:12:56,479 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 1: you've taken on for yourself for the world, and I

1427
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 1: don't think there could be anyone better doing it. And

1428
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: I really really hope that any help that I can offer,

1429
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: any help that my communic and offer, please know that

1430
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: we're right here with you, thank you, right behind you.

1431
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 1: So thank you so much. Our on purpose community I

1432
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 1: know would love to get behind anything that we can. Yeah, dude,

1433
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm so I'm still so grateful for the time you're

1434
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: give me today. Yeah, and again for like what you

1435
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: all you do, because you're having such a positive impact

1436
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 1: on so many people, including me, you know, so when

1437
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: you perhaps don't realize it, you're you know, you're having

1438
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: such a big impact. And I'm so grateful to you

1439
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: for that, mate. Thank you an it means the world

1440
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: coming from you, honestly, thank you. Everyone who's been listening

1441
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 1: and watching today, make sure you go get educated about

1442
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: Mission forty four, about the Hamilton Commission. Really incredible initiatives

1443
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: that Lewis started that are leading the way to make

1444
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: sure that diversity and inclusion and are taken more seriously

1445
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: across all industries, which I think we would all agree with.

1446
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 1: And to anyone else who's watching or listening, make sure

1447
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 1: you tag Louis and I on social media with your

1448
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: biggest insights. There were so many words of wisdom that

1449
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: Lewis shared. I want to know which things stuck out

1450
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: to you, which things made a difference in your mind.

1451
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 1: And the biggest thing is I want you to pass

1452
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: this on to someone. Right there's someone who needs to

1453
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: hear Lewis's story that's going to transform their life, and

1454
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 1: I want you to pass it on. He shared so

1455
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: many people that inspired him. We know he's a huge

1456
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 1: inspiration to so many. Makes you shared this with someone

1457
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 1: because you have no idea whose life you might change.

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01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.