Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Katie Curic, and welcome to Next Question.
Speaker 1: These past couple of weeks, I've been working on a
Speaker 1: video series with Time Magazine that shines a light on
Speaker 1: the heroes and newsmakers of this COVID moment, and today,
Speaker 1: on a special bonus episode, I'd like to share one
Speaker 1: of those conversations, an interview I had earlier this week
Speaker 1: with California Governor Gavin Newsom. This is the dialectic of
Speaker 1: our time, and there's a lot of white water, a
Speaker 1: lot of friction that's going to happen in the next
Speaker 1: few months. It's been difficult today, but the next few
Speaker 1: months and years are going to be challenging. Governor Newsome
Speaker 1: has been praised for his proactive leadership and swift response
Speaker 1: to the coronavirus crisis. California had the first recorded death
Speaker 1: of COVID nineteen weeks before any other state. Yet California
Speaker 1: has managed to avoid the catastrophic spread we've seen in
Speaker 1: other places. Governor Newsom gives us a sense of where
Speaker 1: he thinks California and all of us are headed, but
Speaker 1: first to understand what guided his initial response. We started
Speaker 1: our conversation in the early days of the pandemic. I
Speaker 1: think for us early on was as early as middle January,
Speaker 1: we started the first phone calls back and forth with
Speaker 1: the CDC and h S s UH to begin the
Speaker 1: process of making a determination whether or not we would
Speaker 1: support the repatriation flights UH six flights from mainland China
Speaker 1: American citizens and bring them to our Air Force BASS
Speaker 1: in the state of California. It really brought to the
Speaker 1: four what this pandemic was, what it wasn't, and really
Speaker 1: focused our attention and acuity. And then, of course the
Speaker 1: Grand Princess cruise Line. A few weeks later, we were
Speaker 1: faced with the decision what to do with the San
Speaker 1: Francisco based cruise line UH that had dozens of passengers
Speaker 1: and crew that had tested positive, and that really brought
Speaker 1: the whole issue to our shores even sooner than any
Speaker 1: other states. So there was a consciousness, a seriousness of focus,
Speaker 1: and that led to Mayor Breed and other Bay Area
Speaker 1: leaders to move forward first with stay at home orders
Speaker 1: and allowed me the confidence to roll out statewide with
Speaker 1: their concurrence in their direction, the first statewide stay at
Speaker 1: home order. You were really guided by both science and technology,
Speaker 1: weren't you. Yeah, we had the benefit. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: you're you're one of the most resourced states in the world,
Speaker 1: the fifth largest economy in the world, forty million Californians strong,
Speaker 1: but also approximate to Silicon Valley and some of the
Speaker 1: greatest tools of technology and innovation in the world. That
Speaker 1: we love to say about the region, the future happens
Speaker 1: there first. And so as a consequence, so many people
Speaker 1: came uh to the four that we're already working in China,
Speaker 1: that already had partnerships in China that were already attuned
Speaker 1: to the seriousness of this, that we're tracking movement, tracking
Speaker 1: the disease, and we were able to procure a number
Speaker 1: of those tools of technology early on that really created
Speaker 1: transparency and a dashboard about the spread of this virus
Speaker 1: and the capacity to deliver on our promotion of a
Speaker 1: stay at home order and whether or not people are
Speaker 1: actually abiding by it. Do you worry about privacy? Obviously,
Speaker 1: you're monitoring people's movements through technology, gaining a greater understanding
Speaker 1: of pooh staying put? Who isn't. Do you feel people
Speaker 1: are willing to give up their privacy in order to
Speaker 1: make sure that the community stays healthy. Yeah, we want
Speaker 1: them to make that decision. We don't make that decision
Speaker 1: for them, and we went so far. Is not just
Speaker 1: to say that rhetorically, California leads the nation in terms
Speaker 1: of our efforts the focus on online privacy. We have
Speaker 1: one of the most progressive bills in the United States
Speaker 1: we passed last year in terms of obligations of these
Speaker 1: tech companies to make information public. So we brought in
Speaker 1: two Obama expats that the head of their Digital innovation
Speaker 1: and their ct O A raj A. Batel and and
Speaker 1: and brought in Todd Park to help guide our privacy efforts.
Speaker 1: They're part of our technical team. And so there's a
Speaker 1: privacy first framework. So all the data we're using is
Speaker 1: either open sourced or its public health data that has
Speaker 1: been traditionally provided in animalized ways UH in aggregate ways
Speaker 1: where no privacy UH concerns or considerations are at play.
Speaker 1: You've announced the stages of your reopening plan. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna synthesize them for folks. Stage one is stay at
Speaker 1: home flatten the curve. Stage two, lifting restrictions on lower
Speaker 1: risk workplaces such as retail manufacturing and offices where telework
Speaker 1: are working from home, is impossible. Also, child care centers
Speaker 1: stage three months away. You say personal care businesses like gems, spas, salons,
Speaker 1: sports without live audiences in person, religious services, and other
Speaker 1: businesses where workers come in close contact with each other.
Speaker 1: And stage four would be the end of stay at
Speaker 1: home orders and the highest risk parts of the economy
Speaker 1: like concert sporting events with live audiences and conventions could
Speaker 1: re emerge. So I know you haven't put a time frame,
Speaker 1: Governor Newsom on this reopening plants and the various stages
Speaker 1: and when they will all happen, But any idea when
Speaker 1: you might be able to actually go to stage four
Speaker 1: where things would get relatively back to normal. I mean
Speaker 1: stage four is a therapeutic stage. Stage four is an
Speaker 1: immunity stage. Phase four is a vaccine stage. Uh, and
Speaker 1: that likely won't happen anytime soon. That's what we say,
Speaker 1: months many many months in stage four. I think that's realistic. Look,
Speaker 1: we don't. We don't play around with dates and deadlines
Speaker 1: for one reason. Uh. Their arbitrary, not based on anything
Speaker 1: except instinct. We are prone uh if we do that
Speaker 1: to make decisions that aren't based on fact, on data,
Speaker 1: on real science. So when I say weeks I I
Speaker 1: hope it's weeks, uh, and based upon our current trend lines,
Speaker 1: we believe it is weeks for phase one and our
Speaker 1: modifications are staying home order. We do believe it's a
Speaker 1: month or months for those subsequent phases, but that's really
Speaker 1: a determination of where the virus spread is in our
Speaker 1: capacity to deal with an increase in spread, our hospitals
Speaker 1: and their ability to deal with searge, our ability to
Speaker 1: trace and track individuals and isolate people, not just to
Speaker 1: test them at the scale of testing that's required. What
Speaker 1: are you most concerned about, Governor, as California and other
Speaker 1: states for that matter, emerge from this. I think my
Speaker 1: biggest fear is fatigue. My biggest fear is we run
Speaker 1: the ninety r dash. My biggest fear is all the
Speaker 1: progress that's been made over the course of the last
Speaker 1: you know, ninety days, particularly in the state of California
Speaker 1: that really started in on this in late January, can
Speaker 1: be thrown out in the matter of of weeks. Uh.
Speaker 1: My biggest fear is that we think this virus is
Speaker 1: taking weekends off so we can take the weekend at
Speaker 1: the beach. My biggest fear, as we think, all right,
Speaker 1: just because it's getting warm, it's going to take the
Speaker 1: summer off and go on spring break. My biggest fear,
Speaker 1: UH is that we have people that are asymptomatic that
Speaker 1: come home to mom and dad and grandpa, and people
Speaker 1: would compromise immune system only to find out that they're
Speaker 1: in the ICU uh seven eight days later. So I'm
Speaker 1: fearful of all of those things. That's why I'm sober
Speaker 1: about this. I want to get back to work, and
Speaker 1: I started in the private sector. I've created twenty plus businesses, restaurants, hotels, wineries. Deeply,
Speaker 1: I'm connected uh to the stress and anxiety are small
Speaker 1: business men and women have and people that desperately need
Speaker 1: to go back to work. At the same time, we
Speaker 1: gotta keep people healthy, and the best way to go
Speaker 1: back to work is to tamin this to suppress the
Speaker 1: spread uh, And that's why we are fixated on that
Speaker 1: being our indicator for decision, not arbitrary timelines. Governor knewso
Speaker 1: l A has instituted some pretty strict measures, especially regarding beaches,
Speaker 1: but other counties like Orange County, in Ventura County, They're
Speaker 1: beaches last weekend look like Fort Lauderdale during spring break.
Speaker 1: I know you chastise those people, but is there more
Speaker 1: that you can do to make sure that people actually
Speaker 1: pay attention and follow the guidelines. In Orange County, they
Speaker 1: have the fourth highest of all fifty eight counties in
Speaker 1: the state, fourth highest rate of hospitalizations l a San
Speaker 1: Diego that have done an amazing job of managing their beaches.
Speaker 1: About a hundred large beaches in California, there were five
Speaker 1: that were any problem. Overwhelming majority of jurisdictions did a
Speaker 1: magnificent job in What about the ones that aren't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're the ones that that didn't are unfortunate. And Saturday
Speaker 1: you saw big spikes. Sunday, Uh, it was mitigated a bit.
Speaker 1: And I can assure you I'm not waiting for this weekend.
Speaker 1: Then we'll be making an announcement and very short order
Speaker 1: about efforts to curb the crowds coming into this weekend
Speaker 1: and potentially even next On Thursday, Governor Newsom announced that
Speaker 1: California will close state and local beaches only in Orange County,
Speaker 1: that's one of the top counties in the state for
Speaker 1: coronavirus cases and hospitalizations. He assured Californians, however, that this
Speaker 1: was a temporary measure. We can reopen very very quickly.
Speaker 1: But we gotta we gotta make sure we can get
Speaker 1: this right. Um, why undo all the great progress. Let's
Speaker 1: let's move this state forward together. We'll be back with
Speaker 1: more from Governor Gavin Newsom in just a moment. We're
Speaker 1: back with California Governor Gavin news Them. This has been
Speaker 1: financially devastating for everyone, including your state, and you have
Speaker 1: to have a balanced budget, Governor, And something's got to give.
Speaker 1: Spending cuts, tax increases, the impact on schools, on so
Speaker 1: many different social services. So what will California look like
Speaker 1: in one given the traumatic experience of of this pandemic.
Speaker 1: This time last year, Katie, we were debating how to
Speaker 1: balance our budget with a twenty one point four billion
Speaker 1: dollars surplus. This time last year, a twenty one point
Speaker 1: four billion dollars operating surplus. I announced in January my
Speaker 1: expectation for the next fiscal year that surplus would be
Speaker 1: roughly six billion. That was eight or so weeks ago.
Speaker 1: We are going to be announcing on Monday tens of
Speaker 1: billions of dollars in deficit, just like that. The magnitude
Speaker 1: of this is jaw dropping, and it's much worse than respectfully.
Speaker 1: I think people think because every time new numbers come
Speaker 1: out jobless numbers that's lagging. We have three point seven
Speaker 1: million Californians that had filed for unemployment insurance just since
Speaker 1: March twelfth, just since March twelfth, not January twelve, March twelve.
Speaker 1: We have to put this in perspective, and that's why
Speaker 1: I understand boy to understand the economic desire to start reopening.
Speaker 1: And that's the give and take, that's the struggle. This
Speaker 1: is the dialectic of our time, and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of white water, a lot of friction that's going to
Speaker 1: happen in the next few months. It's been difficult to day,
Speaker 1: but the next few months and years are going to
Speaker 1: be challenging. So the answer to that question, California is
Speaker 1: not going to be very pretty. It's gonna be more chill. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm I think this state because of its size, its scope,
Speaker 1: because the diversity of within the economy, the fact that
Speaker 1: we were running twenty billion dollar surplus a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, that we have historic reserves we had forgiving,
Speaker 1: but we had our bond writing increased twice last year.
Speaker 1: Our borrowing capacity is better than most states uh. And
Speaker 1: we have remarkable leaders in this state that continue to
Speaker 1: thrive despite this pandemic, particularly the tech community and elsewhere.
Speaker 1: We may do better than most, but the magnitude of
Speaker 1: these deficits is extraordinary. And my biggest fear is this
Speaker 1: we better learn the lesson from twenty oh a, meaning
Speaker 1: so many people haven't even recovered from the Great Recession,
Speaker 1: low income workers, where their wages have been flat, and
Speaker 1: they're the most vulnerable in this pandemic. And so we
Speaker 1: really have to be I think, much more aggressive in
Speaker 1: addressing economic justice and addressing the framework of social justice
Speaker 1: as our number one priority. Let us not make the
Speaker 1: mistakes we made of the bailouts the last time, not
Speaker 1: getting down to real people in diverse communities. That's our
Speaker 1: principal obligations. Meanwhile, it doesn't sound as if Mitch McConnell
Speaker 1: is going to be much help. He doesn't want the
Speaker 1: federal government to help the state or local level, and
Speaker 1: he in fact has said it's the state's fault for
Speaker 1: mismanaging money. I know you've said that his his position
Speaker 1: is offensive. But without federal help, how are you going
Speaker 1: to manage to balance your budget? How are you going
Speaker 1: to manage to serve the people of California. You can
Speaker 1: imagine since he's been Republican leader, every year the deficits
Speaker 1: have gotten bigger under his watch. How galling that comment
Speaker 1: is to a state like California, where are surpluses got
Speaker 1: bigger as his deficits got bigger in terms of mismanagement,
Speaker 1: and particularly a state that historically has been a huge
Speaker 1: donor state. UH, to other red states, it is galling,
Speaker 1: and I think many governors have made that point, and
Speaker 1: so we have to balance our budgets. They don't. But
Speaker 1: we're Americans. Forty million Americans live in the state of California.
Speaker 1: It's not a blue state. It's in America states part
Speaker 1: of the Union. Twenty six of our fifty AC counties
Speaker 1: went for Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell's party in the
Speaker 1: last election. Uh. They matter to UH, and so I
Speaker 1: hope they disabuse themselves of this notion, UH that we
Speaker 1: are all on our own when we're many parts but
Speaker 1: one body. It's the United States of America, and when
Speaker 1: one part suffers, we all suffer. That's the spirit of
Speaker 1: the Commonwealth, that's the spirit of our founding fathers. I
Speaker 1: think it would be nice if Mitch McConnell others would
Speaker 1: read a little bit about our own history. The best
Speaker 1: and better angels that define the best of the American spirit,
Speaker 1: and it's this notion that we're all in this together.
Speaker 1: There's no leak on your side of our boat. We
Speaker 1: need the federal government's help and support. How do you
Speaker 1: think President Trump has handled this crisis overall? I am
Speaker 1: gonna leave that more independent minds were in the middle
Speaker 1: of this pandemic, and I'm trying every single day to
Speaker 1: save lives. I can only say this, and I know people,
Speaker 1: depending on their political stripes, can get offended by it.
Speaker 1: I'm well aware of it. I'm by the way, involved
Speaker 1: in sixty eight lawsuits for the Trump administration. So there
Speaker 1: is you know, we talk about California, the friction between
Speaker 1: the administration and the state second to no other state.
Speaker 1: But the interactions we've had directly with the administration, because
Speaker 1: they think they go back to January, Uh, the level
Speaker 1: of engagement has been relatively favorable. I can't say that.
Speaker 1: It can't be said rather for many other states, but
Speaker 1: it has been favorable for the state of California. So
Speaker 1: I can only speak from that prison, from that perspective.
Speaker 1: Do you feel as if you have to mind your
Speaker 1: p's and queues and not criticize the administration too much?
Speaker 1: Governor less you incur the wrath of President Trump is
Speaker 1: Governor Insley did in Washington State. Yeah, I mean there
Speaker 1: probably is a little of that, But you know what,
Speaker 1: you also can't make up reasons to disagree in fingerpoint.
Speaker 1: I mean, I look, my my My decision every day
Speaker 1: is not to wake up with my fist clenched. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's to have my hands open, my heart open too, opportunity,
Speaker 1: learning new ideas and support and we'll take support wherever
Speaker 1: we can get it. And I called let me just
Speaker 1: you know, forgive me, but give you. For instance, we've
Speaker 1: had a lot of questions and the aggregate about testing supplies.
Speaker 1: So rather than complaining about it, which I could have done,
Speaker 1: got a lot of attention gone on all the nightly shows. Um,
Speaker 1: I made a phone call and I asked the President
Speaker 1: directly answered the phone, here's what I need. And you know,
Speaker 1: next day quite literally arrived. And so that's that's the
Speaker 1: specific experience. But again I deeply recognize that doesn't exist
Speaker 1: in other parts of the country. Working together is one thing,
Speaker 1: but now he's using you and one of his campaign
Speaker 1: re election videos. How do you feel about that. I've
Speaker 1: been It's I've been in this. I've been an elected
Speaker 1: office for twenty plus years. Uh, I've seen plenty of things.
Speaker 1: Nothing surprises me. We're getting into an election season very shortly.
Speaker 1: I'm doing an event for Joe Biden. I have my candidate. Uh.
Speaker 1: We're in sixty eight lawsuits with the administration. Uh is
Speaker 1: what it is. But again, one thing I'm not going
Speaker 1: to do. My mother taught me this. I mean, as
Speaker 1: always raised when you ask for something and someone does
Speaker 1: something for you, to express appreciation and gratitude, and if
Speaker 1: you don't, then you lose your character, lose a little
Speaker 1: of your own veracity. Um. And I could play to that,
Speaker 1: I could play to the partisanship, But I got forty
Speaker 1: million Californians, forty million Americans that deserved me to figure
Speaker 1: out a way to do better and do more, to
Speaker 1: get along and and engage in the spirit of collaboration
Speaker 1: without focusing on everything just being politics. Have you endorsed
Speaker 1: Joe Biden for president yet? Yeah. We have a big
Speaker 1: event on the eighth of this month, so we are
Speaker 1: very involved. And how do you feel about the way
Speaker 1: candidate Vice President Biden has been responding to this pandemic? Governor?
Speaker 1: What is he doing well? And should he be doing
Speaker 1: anything differently? Because many people are saying they need to
Speaker 1: see Joe Biden out there and more talking about this pandemic.
Speaker 1: Do you agree. I'd love to see him there more.
Speaker 1: But the challenges we're out there almost ubiquitous. The wall
Speaker 1: to wall governors, Uh, it's it's the nature of the moment.
Speaker 1: You would have thought governors didn't exist. A year ago.
Speaker 1: It was hard to get any governors to get any
Speaker 1: attention to what they were doing in their states. And
Speaker 1: the only thing we were talking about three months ago was,
Speaker 1: you know, it was Cornaki on the big screen going
Speaker 1: back and forth about every census track in every district,
Speaker 1: comparing elections in the primary. It's just the nature of
Speaker 1: the eb and flow of these things. You can't criticize
Speaker 1: or critique that coverage. Is just the nature of where
Speaker 1: they we are in this pandemic. But we'll start to
Speaker 1: see some focus and you'll see a lot more attention
Speaker 1: on the vice president and that will be a healthy
Speaker 1: thing very soon. Governors aren't fact getting a lot of
Speaker 1: attention you and and Andrew Cuomo. I think or even
Speaker 1: though you've been doing this for quite a while and
Speaker 1: been in public service almost your entire adult lives seven,
Speaker 1: you seem to be the rising stars of the Democratic Party. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. I I just got here as governor a
Speaker 1: year or so ago, and certainly Andrew's been around a
Speaker 1: long time and been a friend for years, back from
Speaker 1: his a G days when I just become mayor of
Speaker 1: San Francisco. So look, I think it's wonderful to see.
Speaker 1: And it's not just some of the bigger states, some
Speaker 1: of these smaller states. The collaborative spirit. I'm in a
Speaker 1: partnership with governors in four other states, in Colorado, Nevada, Oregon,
Speaker 1: in Washington. It's the spirit of collaboration and cooperation. There's
Speaker 1: an old saw that says, if you don't like the
Speaker 1: whale the world looks when you're standing up, stand on
Speaker 1: your head and go local. Some more markable things are
Speaker 1: happening at the local level, the regional level, and at
Speaker 1: the state level, and there's a spirit of collaboration that's
Speaker 1: alive and well across jurisdictions that should give people confidence
Speaker 1: in our future. Uh not just getting through this moment.
Speaker 1: But moreover, I hope we can extend that spirit into
Speaker 1: environmental stewardship and economic and social justice, uh, into reimagining
Speaker 1: a future that's brighter. And so I think this in
Speaker 1: a perverse way, is really you know, strengthen our muscles
Speaker 1: of collaboration. It's gonna pay real dividends into the future.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I won't be the first or last person
Speaker 1: to ask you this, but I can't help it. Governor Newsome,
Speaker 1: would you are you thinking about running for president? I
Speaker 1: mean absolutely, unequivocally, without hesitation. Forgive the long windedness not
Speaker 1: uh just have not uh and haven'ts not just never
Speaker 1: been in aspiration of mind. It's never been a focus.
Speaker 1: I Uh, this is a This isn't a job I
Speaker 1: always wanted. Government is a dream job. It's a nation
Speaker 1: state of the state for and born more scientists, more researchers,
Speaker 1: more engineers, more Nobel laureate It's more venture capital emanating
Speaker 1: out of the state, the fifth largest economy and planet Earth.
Speaker 1: What a gift, what an absolute gift. We can make
Speaker 1: California thrive to be a model for the nation. Uh.
Speaker 1: And what what an incredible opportunity. I just got here
Speaker 1: a year ago and thinking about other things, Uh, would
Speaker 1: not do justice to doing my job and in the
Speaker 1: work ahead of us when we come back. For Governor Newsom,
Speaker 1: the homeschooling struggle is real. How he's coping with four
Speaker 1: kids underfoot? Now back to the final part of my
Speaker 1: conversation with California Governor Gavin Newsom. You have four kids?
Speaker 1: How are you guys doing with stay at home? That
Speaker 1: is well, now you have the real answer to that
Speaker 1: last question. Four kids, Katie, how are you handling this?
Speaker 1: We need to reopen the schools immediately, please, We're desperate
Speaker 1: right away. Uh. Look, it shapes It shapes everything my
Speaker 1: my my good days and my more challenging days. It
Speaker 1: is I'll tell you the one thing it does so boy,
Speaker 1: it sharpens my appreciation for women, for mothers, uh, for caregivers, uh,
Speaker 1: for the disproportionate amount of work women do in the
Speaker 1: household that is now even made more visible. And I
Speaker 1: think this Mother's Day bet will be the biggest Mother's
Speaker 1: day in the history of mankind. How old are your
Speaker 1: kids now? The youngest just just turned four. Uh. And
Speaker 1: it still reminds me of the two's if you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Uh, And we have the oldest is
Speaker 1: just ten and homeschooling. Oh my gosh. The teachers talk
Speaker 1: about American heroes, nurses, doctors, and the teachers. It's hard.
Speaker 1: The kids just have remarkable inability to want to be
Speaker 1: taught by their parents, but a remarkable capacity he taught
Speaker 1: by our teachers. And so that's why I say, let's
Speaker 1: safely and responsibly reopen these schools because we care. And
Speaker 1: I know that's something you're thinking about, but there's a
Speaker 1: lot that will go into that. And a lot of
Speaker 1: folks are debating whether school should open this summer because
Speaker 1: they have to make up for lost time, and that's
Speaker 1: something you're looking into as well. Well. This learning loss
Speaker 1: is real. It's real every summer. You know, that summer, believed,
Speaker 1: particularly from a socio economic disproportionately impacts black and brown
Speaker 1: communities and we've never addressed that in a meaningful way.
Speaker 1: By the way, all of this has been exposed with
Speaker 1: distance learning and WiFi capacity, the ability for a family
Speaker 1: with many kids to have more than just even one tablet,
Speaker 1: or have one tablet and own alone. Uh. And all
Speaker 1: of that, of course has made more problematic as we
Speaker 1: moved through this pandemic, and so we're talking about opening potentially.
Speaker 1: I know summer schools upon us quickly, but we are
Speaker 1: considering opening up the school year a little bit earlier,
Speaker 1: late July early August, to see if we can make
Speaker 1: up for a little that gives us a little more
Speaker 1: to I'm on the summer school to more safely plan
Speaker 1: physical and environmental planning, but then would provide us the
Speaker 1: opportunity to maybe make up for some of that learning laws.
Speaker 1: So we're having deep conversations. That's a big scale operation,
Speaker 1: six million kids in California, So if we can do it,
Speaker 1: I think others can as well. But it's a it's
Speaker 1: a big herculean effort. Governor Gavin Newsome, Governor, thanks for
Speaker 1: talking to me. Really appreciate your time. No manor, thanks
Speaker 1: for having me. That was California Governor Gavin Newsom speaking
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