WEBVTT - Booksmart with Vanessa Chester

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<v Speaker 1>On the bel Cast, the questions asked if movies have

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<v Speaker 1>women in them, Are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zef and best start

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<v Speaker 1>changing it with the Bedel Cast. Hello, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bechdel Cast. My name is Caitlin Durante, my name

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<v Speaker 1>is Jamie Loftus, and weird book smart. The two of

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<v Speaker 1>us were really smart at books. See. I was struggling

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<v Speaker 1>to think of a way to start this episode as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was probably exactly what I would have said. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well and we know to read and we're and we

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<v Speaker 1>also a master's degree for crying out. Yeah. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys read a lot to do that. I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I would have really. I'm like, did I

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<v Speaker 1>read in college really at all? And I just like

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<v Speaker 1>really went deep into debt and got very depressed. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to read to know how to do that. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>Today's episode is it was brought to you by reading. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is the Bechtel Cast. If you're a new listener,

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<v Speaker 1>this is our podcast where we talk about the way

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<v Speaker 1>that women are portrayed in popular movies. UM. We use

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<v Speaker 1>the Bechdel Test as a jumping off point for discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>But what is the Becktel test? What I mean? I

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<v Speaker 1>need someone with a master's degree to tell me, and

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<v Speaker 1>dogshit to tell you that. The Bechdel test is a

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<v Speaker 1>media test developed by cartoonist Alison Bechtel that requires that,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say a movie that you're looking at has two

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<v Speaker 1>named female identifying characters. They must be in the movie together.

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<v Speaker 1>They must speak to each other, and their conversation cannot

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<v Speaker 1>be about a man. Yes, you think it would be

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<v Speaker 1>not that hard, but a lot of movies don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me do a quick example. Yes, okay, Hey Caitlin,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up, Jamie? I am still so like struck by

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<v Speaker 1>the anime? Did knockoff of Titanic? We watched last night?

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<v Speaker 1>Me too, the Legend of Titanic. I had never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of it. We watched it. There's a giant octopus, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to have identifying octopus. But his name is Tentacles,

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<v Speaker 1>and he holds the Titanic together and everyone when the

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<v Speaker 1>Titanic lives, it's we have to do a bonus episode

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<v Speaker 1>on It's at least as good as Book Smart. It's

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<v Speaker 1>at least it's not a little better. We watched it

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<v Speaker 1>right after we double featured Book in the Legend of

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<v Speaker 1>Titanic and Book Smart, for all of its merits, does

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<v Speaker 1>not have a gigantic octopus that rescues people. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of its fatal flaws, and that's really what the

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<v Speaker 1>discourse has been focused around. Well, that conversation came close

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<v Speaker 1>to passing the backtal disks until I brought up the octopus.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and the octopus is really phallic too. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a baby doghead with eight dicks just shooting out

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<v Speaker 1>of it. It's so strong and throbby, it's gross. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you should let's bring move away from this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>and introduce our guest. How do I follow that? I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really sorry about impossible. Like to follow. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do a great job because I have two arms. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm already failing the voice you just heard. She's

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing human. She's an actor and you might know

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<v Speaker 1>her from such movies as a Little Princess, Jurassic Park,

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<v Speaker 1>Lost World, and Harriet the Spy. It's Vanessa Chester. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for having me, Thank you for saying I'm an

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<v Speaker 1>amusing amazing human being, Like where I just have a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling she's strong into it. Let's check back in with

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<v Speaker 1>that at the end of the and you still feel

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<v Speaker 1>and then if not, I mean, we can always blame

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<v Speaker 1>it on a friend of the show, Miles Gray, because

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<v Speaker 1>he brought you into our Oh my gosh, we can

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<v Speaker 1>always take him out of this world. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>book Smart. We're talking about book Smart, a new release. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>popular listener request, and yeah, I'm just like to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it. So, Vanessa, what did you think of the movie?

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed it. Like I saw a preview and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I want to see this. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of was that girl in high school who like

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<v Speaker 1>studied a lot and got great grades. And I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I partied still, but like I could have partied far more.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't go back and do that, and I made

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<v Speaker 1>up for in college. Um. I felt like the casting

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<v Speaker 1>was brilliant, Like I liked every single character. I like

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<v Speaker 1>the personalities, like they all had such great chemistry. That

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<v Speaker 1>and also I feel like at the beginning it was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know these people. I know who this person was

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<v Speaker 1>in high school. And by the end you were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's a blooming onion. We have many layers, Like we

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<v Speaker 1>all realized that, but it also makes you kind to

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<v Speaker 1>think of like that person in high school that you

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<v Speaker 1>may have judged that you now see on Facebook and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, whoa, or like, what did I hear that

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<v Speaker 1>I just accepted to be them? You know, we all

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<v Speaker 1>had that. Yeah, a lot of traumatic high school the

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<v Speaker 1>projects coming out at the moment. There were so many

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<v Speaker 1>specific characters that you're like, oh, I would have pre

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<v Speaker 1>judged that person in high school for sure, or like

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<v Speaker 1>I was that or I hung out with them, or

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<v Speaker 1>I like I defended that person. Yeah, my best friend

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<v Speaker 1>growing up was a Jared. Oh really Yeah, Peter was

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a Jared, but without all the money.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was just sweet. I was so sweet. I

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<v Speaker 1>was very much like the gals Amy and Molly were like,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't party at all in high school. I was

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<v Speaker 1>like really cared about my grades and like studying and

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<v Speaker 1>if you're listening to the show for the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>Cale and I historically canonically suck very boring in Lane.

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<v Speaker 1>We are very I'm like trying to think. I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>I was really good because I was afraid of my

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<v Speaker 1>mom and I knew, like, but then it was one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things where like, I'm not necessarily lazy, but

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<v Speaker 1>the lazy aspect of my personality really shined through to

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<v Speaker 1>find efficiency and things. And so I was that person

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<v Speaker 1>who was like, if I pay attention in this fifty

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<v Speaker 1>minute period and take bomb notes, I won't have to

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<v Speaker 1>fucking study and I'll pass all the tests, like and

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<v Speaker 1>that was basically the way I got through college too.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a photographic memory. Just look right, draw like,

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<v Speaker 1>ask all the questions and be done. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>minute I got into college, I was like, I just

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<v Speaker 1>ditched for like half of senior. Yeah. By the time

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<v Speaker 1>I was in college, I discovered Vladimir vodka and it

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<v Speaker 1>was off advance. We did MR. We had Mr Boston

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<v Speaker 1>from vodka. You could get it in gallon size and

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<v Speaker 1>make it last. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The fake idea at

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<v Speaker 1>Food for Last when I was like, pop off on

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<v Speaker 1>me and everyone's but that's basically killing half of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, it's chill. It's chill, guys, Like

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<v Speaker 1>food Food for Less is the only place that accepts

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<v Speaker 1>this idea, like three and it says I'm five eight,

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<v Speaker 1>So do it, okay, guys, do you want Jungle Juice

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<v Speaker 1>or not? Right, Um, let's just dive into the recap.

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<v Speaker 1>No one has much of a history. I've seen it

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<v Speaker 1>three times now. I was a little I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was weird. I I just saw this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>There the like discussion around this movie was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>bizarre when it came out of like it underperformed at

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<v Speaker 1>the box office and the reasons people thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>sort of all over the place, and it was just

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<v Speaker 1>like there was a lot of like interesting, weird discussion

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<v Speaker 1>around this movie when it came out to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where I was, I was like, I don't know when

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<v Speaker 1>when Twitter discussions get so in the weeds, I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm tired, and I'm less likely to see the movie. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm exhausted just from eating these reviews. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know I had the capacity to watch the actual movie.

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<v Speaker 1>You review too many takes, Like there were so many

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<v Speaker 1>takes on this movie, too many takes. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like Twitter, Twitter takes are just like they're exhausting. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was almost like put off from seeing this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>which I realized now it was not fair because I

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<v Speaker 1>quite enjoyed it. Likewise, I'll tell the story of the

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<v Speaker 1>movie the story of the book. So it's the last

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<v Speaker 1>day of high school for Amy and Molly beaniefeldsnin Caitlyn.

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<v Speaker 1>For Caitlyn who my favorite fun fact about her is

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<v Speaker 1>that her dad was the voice of Barney Stop right.

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<v Speaker 1>I would I would just have a shirt that said

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<v Speaker 1>so I wouldn't have to like find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>get it in the conversation. It's incredible that I had

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<v Speaker 1>to seek that information out. Why isn't she just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about people, don't promote this movie you're in. Your father

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<v Speaker 1>is a bar Need the Dinosaur anyways, So that's all

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<v Speaker 1>I know. They are best friends and they are too

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<v Speaker 1>like overachiever, goody two shoots types like funny, they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like not other weatherspoon an election. Yeah, they're like

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<v Speaker 1>what we wanted, Like, oh, you have a personality, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're smart. Yeah, like type A but not like they

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<v Speaker 1>have terment each other, but like not with other people

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<v Speaker 1>outside of their duo. And because they want to just

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<v Speaker 1>study hard so they could get into good colleges. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we meet some of their classmates. There's Nick, who

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<v Speaker 1>is the VP of the class because Molly is the

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<v Speaker 1>class president. There's like THEO and Tanner. They're like these

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<v Speaker 1>like to burnout guys. There's this girl that they call

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<v Speaker 1>triple a. Uh. There is this girl Ryan who Amy

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<v Speaker 1>has a crush on. Uh skater out with the curly hair. Yeah. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's Jared who's this like rich try hard

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<v Speaker 1>kid and his rich friend Gigi, who is played by

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<v Speaker 1>Harry Fisher's daughter Billy Lord. Yeah. I was imed being

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<v Speaker 1>everyone today. I loved her. She was Nick is Kuba

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<v Speaker 1>Gooding Junior's son. Fun. I didn't know that having famous

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<v Speaker 1>parents gets you into movies. It's maybe be so good

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't even I can't even be mad about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So we meet all these classmates of their's and then

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<v Speaker 1>Amy and Molly find out that Nick is having a

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<v Speaker 1>party at his aunt's house that night. Then Molly overhears

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<v Speaker 1>some of her classmates talking about her and like saying

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<v Speaker 1>that she's not fun, that she loves school too much,

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<v Speaker 1>and that she has a butter personality. Funny joke. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Oh, that one hurts far far more. His

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<v Speaker 1>school students are just even though this is like a

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<v Speaker 1>writer like our mean cutting Yeah. And then Molly finds

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<v Speaker 1>out that all of these classmates who she thinks are

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<v Speaker 1>like idiot burnouts and who like partied a lot and

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<v Speaker 1>had fun, also got into the good colleges. So she

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<v Speaker 1>has like a connection like you know what, Amy, we

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<v Speaker 1>got to go to next party. We got to prove

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<v Speaker 1>to these people that we can be fun too, and

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<v Speaker 1>that we you know, we don't want to have missed

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<v Speaker 1>out on like fun high school party experience. This is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's such Catharsis for students who were

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<v Speaker 1>like that, because that student almost never actually goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the party on the last day, Like I definitely never.

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<v Speaker 1>I just went to the afternoon barbecues when people graduated,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I'd like a cheeseburger and then

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<v Speaker 1>I'd leave by four pm. I was. I was feeling

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<v Speaker 1>it for them. It was like, yeah, you go to

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<v Speaker 1>a party or you regret it for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>your life. Yeah, I was. So then they get ready

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<v Speaker 1>for the party, but they don't know the address to

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<v Speaker 1>nix Aunce House and no one is answering their calls.

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<v Speaker 1>So then Molly's like, oh, I'll try Jared the like

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<v Speaker 1>try hard rich kids icon Jared, who is listening to

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<v Speaker 1>a Cheraldzoonberg on tape Lean and listen. Corporate feminism a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit misguided. But you know he's seventeen years old.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't. He's making an effort in friend so to

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<v Speaker 1>call him and he comes to pick them up, assuming

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<v Speaker 1>that he knows where the party is, and he takes

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<v Speaker 1>them to a party. But it's not the Twilight Zone, sick.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like his lonely boat party. But like, what would

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<v Speaker 1>you do for one of those Jared T shirts? I right,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope they're selling that. I would like one. That

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<v Speaker 1>Jared party made me so sad, Like if this were

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<v Speaker 1>a darker movie, Jared would be like he would like

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<v Speaker 1>kill someone, like he has infinite resources. I watch a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of true crime and as to see that storyline happening. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, it's a good thing he does have a

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<v Speaker 1>heart of gold because this could have, like them failing

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<v Speaker 1>on his party could have been their death sentence. The

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<v Speaker 1>only other person there at his graduation party is Gi.

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<v Speaker 1>She was just what a great character, so much fun

0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.760
<v Speaker 1>she does appears, you never see her enter a room.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this, Jaredy'll like, Molly, You're awesome. I like you.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like I gotta go. So she and Amy

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<v Speaker 1>high tail it out of there. So Swan dives off

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<v Speaker 1>of the boat. She does a lot of dives into water,

0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:43.480
<v Speaker 1>like there's one that I was like, I hope that

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<v Speaker 1>was a stunt double that one would like get hurt, right, Yeah,

0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, she's not doing a movie for like

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<v Speaker 1>a month after. I think that one hurt. Great. So

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<v Speaker 1>Molly still wants to go to next party, but Amy's like,

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<v Speaker 1>we just went to a party, we don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>go to another. And then Molly calls Malala, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like their code for hey friend, you gotta do whatever

0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I want. Whatever I say, no questions, ask like full support.

0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:11.800
<v Speaker 1>So Amy's like okay, and then they hear back from

0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:15.319
<v Speaker 1>their classmate Alan with the address is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>Drama kids. I love the Drama kids and George, my

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<v Speaker 1>kids are incredible. Love them. So they call a lift

0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and the driver is their principal, making you know, some

0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:32.000
<v Speaker 1>commentary on you know how educators are not paid enough.

0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.360
<v Speaker 1>This is like this there is like I like it

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<v Speaker 1>every time, but there is a repeating motif in this

0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:39.040
<v Speaker 1>movie where it's just like and they get in a

0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.680
<v Speaker 1>car and a very famous comedian is driving the car

0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.840
<v Speaker 1>like that happens like four different times. We're like, wait,

0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Jason Sudegus, did Jessica Williams like my mama, micoh bro,

0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:57.720
<v Speaker 1>it's everything. It's almost as if this was scripted, but

0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.480
<v Speaker 1>it's fun like that those scenes are this movie and

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<v Speaker 1>compared a lot to super Bad, which I don't think.

0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.440
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what I thought after the car scenes are

0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.480
<v Speaker 1>like when I got the strongest vibe when I thought

0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.400
<v Speaker 1>the hater would dry. Yeah, well, I was thinking about

0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:14.160
<v Speaker 1>the scene where they like end up this super Bad

0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:17.240
<v Speaker 1>but like, oh, when mclovin tries to get the liquor

0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.160
<v Speaker 1>that and it was like that one creepy dude who's like,

0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you definitely have something in your basement. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to know what. Yes, I don't, I forgot. I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was what gave me that deja vu moment too. Yeah,

0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:33.120
<v Speaker 1>there's I mean the comparisons. I mean, like it doesn't

0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.280
<v Speaker 1>bother me at all, Like it's just it's a I

0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:39.960
<v Speaker 1>think it's worth discussing later on too. But yeah, and

0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that Jared is like kind of a vastly

0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:46.520
<v Speaker 1>improved mcloven type character. That makes sense because we like,

0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:50.480
<v Speaker 1>learn about him. We know about him, mclovin. Where is he? Yeah?

0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Where did he go? I don't know. So they're in

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<v Speaker 1>the cab there in the lift. They watched some porn

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<v Speaker 1>in the car, so that because Amy's all I I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how to do anything with girls, and Molly

0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:07.280
<v Speaker 1>is my teacher. Here is they're pornal no no, And

0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.320
<v Speaker 1>then they finally get to the party, except that this

0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:14.120
<v Speaker 1>party is Alan and George's Murder Mystery Dinner Theater party.

0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, druma that in credible monologue. That wait, who

0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:23.920
<v Speaker 1>is George? Who gives the monologue? This like my husband?

0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:29.160
<v Speaker 1>That's that's Alan. That is so funny. And then he's like,

0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.400
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to do it every single time, sighing.

0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I hope someone else comes in and

0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:37.760
<v Speaker 1>he does it again. I loved the codependent drama club friendship.

0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:41.800
<v Speaker 1>That was that really resonated with me. So g is

0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:45.400
<v Speaker 1>also somehow they're at this party and she's like, Wow,

0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised you guys aren't feeling those drugs yet, because

0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:52.240
<v Speaker 1>she had fed them drugged strawberries. Because it has to

0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:56.920
<v Speaker 1>happen in this movie, it does, So they start tripping

0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:01.760
<v Speaker 1>they hallucinate that their Barbie doll. That was weird things. Yes, yeah,

0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:05.000
<v Speaker 1>well we'll talk about this scene. Yeah, this is like

0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.920
<v Speaker 1>one of the things that was like like okay, O

0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:11.240
<v Speaker 1>couldn't done without it. I don't know, but it felt

0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.760
<v Speaker 1>wedged in. But anyway equals drug scene, you know, it's

0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.200
<v Speaker 1>like you gotta experiment if you go out. He's like

0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.520
<v Speaker 1>so over it. They also get sober so quickly, which

0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.800
<v Speaker 1>is that was my next note, Like I'm not saying

0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.679
<v Speaker 1>anyone's dabbled, but that seemed like it was way too

0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:29.480
<v Speaker 1>short of a time, Like they sat down at dinner

0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.880
<v Speaker 1>and their trip was over. I was right. Yeah, They're

0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.240
<v Speaker 1>like it's the next scene. We're sober, we have Barbie,

0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:38.680
<v Speaker 1>so it's done now. So then they leave George's party.

0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Amy's like, okay, we went to two parties. Let's go home,

0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:43.680
<v Speaker 1>and Molly's like, no, I still want to go to

0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Knick's party. And then we find out that it's because

0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Molly has a crush on Nick, which announces from like

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<v Speaker 1>the away girl. And then Amy's like okay, let's freaking

0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:01.600
<v Speaker 1>go to Knick's party. But they still don't know the address.

0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:04.119
<v Speaker 1>And then they do all this homework to figure it out.

0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.000
<v Speaker 1>They see a video from the party where there's like

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<v Speaker 1>this big stack of pizzas from Lido's Pizza. So they

0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:13.720
<v Speaker 1>go there and try to like rob the piece of

0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:19.720
<v Speaker 1>delivery guy. For Brian's like you could be killed. Yeah,

0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.320
<v Speaker 1>He's like, don't trust people, but he gives him the address.

0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Later revealed that he's a murderer. Ye. Yeah, well, I

0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.440
<v Speaker 1>mean when he'd like described what could possibly happen, it's

0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:36.000
<v Speaker 1>like you've done or he's done it. You've got ten

0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:38.760
<v Speaker 1>thousand hours of experience and this and that's scary. Yeah,

0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:44.280
<v Speaker 1>you've Malcolm Gladworld. This to a career hours of murder.

0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.280
<v Speaker 1>But they still can't get to the party because Amy

0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:50.560
<v Speaker 1>left her phone in his car and Molly's phone is

0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:54.080
<v Speaker 1>almost dead from all the porn that they streamed. Molly

0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.240
<v Speaker 1>makes a call with like her last bit of juice.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, come pick us up. And then who shows

0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:02.320
<v Speaker 1>up but another famous Camie the in Jessica Williams. Their

0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:06.119
<v Speaker 1>teachers their teacher, that's fine, and she takes them to

0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Nick's party. There's a yeah, man, Jessica Williams deserved a

0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:15.160
<v Speaker 1>better storyline. I'm like, what we could take a photo

0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and add that to the Like Jessica is writing on

0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.200
<v Speaker 1>her hand even though there is a notepad in front

0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:25.600
<v Speaker 1>of I just look at something like super protective and like,

0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:27.359
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that's a really dope pen. Should I

0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.160
<v Speaker 1>swipe it? What about karma? But notebooks, you know things

0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:31.840
<v Speaker 1>like that. I'm like, I don't want to funk up

0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:33.960
<v Speaker 1>someone's whole thing and like rip out a page and

0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:37.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, my handworks, feel free to use the notepad.

0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:39.919
<v Speaker 1>But this is kind of the thing. Now, we definitely

0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:42.560
<v Speaker 1>are going to put it that on a conspiracy math

0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:45.920
<v Speaker 1>just like this lead to this to this. It's gonna

0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:51.240
<v Speaker 1>become like a huge meme of understanding book smart. Yes, yeah,

0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean we'll get into the Jessica Williams character in general. Yeah,

0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:59.159
<v Speaker 1>deserve better. So they get to the party. Finally everyone

0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.800
<v Speaker 1>is there. Molly and Nick are flirting, Amy and Ryan

0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.760
<v Speaker 1>are maybe flirting. Amy is still not really sure what's

0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:08.600
<v Speaker 1>happening there or if Ryan even likes girls, and then

0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Amy sees Ryan and Nick kissing, so she goes up

0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:14.960
<v Speaker 1>to Molly and she's like, we have to go. We

0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:17.920
<v Speaker 1>should go without telling Molly what she saw. So then

0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:21.040
<v Speaker 1>they get in a fight, and Molly's like I have

0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:23.080
<v Speaker 1>to do all the heavy lifting of our friendship and

0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:28.879
<v Speaker 1>Amy's like, well, you're mean, and then Amy reveals. Amy

0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:32.040
<v Speaker 1>reveals that she's taking a gap year and staying in

0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Africa for the whole year. That's the super bad moment too, right, Yeah,

0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:38.960
<v Speaker 1>it's another big super bad parallel. And that was one

0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:40.840
<v Speaker 1>of the moments where I was just like, oh, yeah,

0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:44.760
<v Speaker 1>everyone in teen movies are fucking rich as hell. She's like, well,

0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking a gap here like a good bank, Like

0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear the kids like I didn't get

0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:53.280
<v Speaker 1>a cal grant approved, you know, like something that's relatable,

0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:59.280
<v Speaker 1>like I don't have health insurance. Yeah. Classic teen movie.

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<v Speaker 1>So then they fight and they storm off, and Amy

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<v Speaker 1>goes into the bathroom and Hope, another one of their classmates,

0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:08.879
<v Speaker 1>is in there, and they have like sort of like

0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:13.000
<v Speaker 1>this antagonistic back and forth and then Amy kisses her

0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:17.320
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about that, and then they start hooking up. Meanwhile,

0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Jared and Molly are talking and like maybe vibing a

0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:26.280
<v Speaker 1>little bit, I don't know, and then Amy cut back

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<v Speaker 1>to the bathroom. Amy accidentally fingers hopes butthole and then

0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean and this is like this is also like

0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:39.480
<v Speaker 1>major like jet Apatow movie vibes of like I accidentally

0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:43.480
<v Speaker 1>fingered a button and then I barfed, Like just to

0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:47.560
<v Speaker 1>be fair, she barbs because she drinks six cigarettes. But yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:51.000
<v Speaker 1>but barfing on someone at a party, which also happens

0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:55.640
<v Speaker 1>in super Bad. Yeah, the super Bad comparisons are warranted

0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:59.520
<v Speaker 1>in many ways, but there are also not in many ways,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk about it. Um. So Amy like rushes

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<v Speaker 1>out of there, and then Molly finally sees Ryan and

0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Nick kissing, so she's like, oh, that's why Amy, you know,

0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:11.359
<v Speaker 1>wanted us to leave. She was trying to protect me.

0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:13.480
<v Speaker 1>So she like goes to try to find Amy, but

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<v Speaker 1>right then the cops show up to bust up the party,

0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:19.399
<v Speaker 1>and Molly gets out. The girl that they called Triple

0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:22.919
<v Speaker 1>A picks her up. Meanwhile, Amy, she's like, I'm going

0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:26.480
<v Speaker 1>to create a diversion for the cops, and then we

0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:28.760
<v Speaker 1>cut to the next morning we find out that she's

0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:33.159
<v Speaker 1>been arrested. She's so many questions in jail, has a

0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:36.720
<v Speaker 1>phone call, pane of glass a whole bit. I'm like,

0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just fine to suspend my disbelief on that you

0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of have to, and then Molly goes to bail

0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:45.280
<v Speaker 1>her out using the information that they have on the

0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:49.080
<v Speaker 1>pizza delivery dude, who we find out is they wanted criminal.

0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:53.639
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, and then graduation is about to happen. Everyone's

0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:56.480
<v Speaker 1>waiting for them, and then they drive like crazy to

0:22:56.560 --> 0:23:01.640
<v Speaker 1>get there. Molly gives her valedictorian speech, they graduate, Molly

0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:04.360
<v Speaker 1>takes Amy to the airport and then they say goodbye

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and there's crying, but then they're like, hang on, we've

0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:10.160
<v Speaker 1>got time to get pancakes, and like, yeah, let's get

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:14.640
<v Speaker 1>some fucking pancakes and smash to black at the end. Yeah,

0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't expecting the pancake thing. I was like all

0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:19.240
<v Speaker 1>in my feelings and my duvet crying, like I have

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:23.280
<v Speaker 1>best friends too, And then I was like pancakes, Like

0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I love pancakes. Pot How many times have I, you know,

0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:33.280
<v Speaker 1>gone to Denny's with a friend and eating pancakes once

0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:37.280
<v Speaker 1>a week? Happens time and time again. Um, so that's

0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 1>the story. Let's take a quick break and then we

0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 1>will be right back. Hey, we're back. We're back. Um,

0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:49.960
<v Speaker 1>so real quick. At the top, before we get into

0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:52.479
<v Speaker 1>the characters, we've already alluded to. This movie has been

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:57.159
<v Speaker 1>compared a lot to super Bad, which what I like

0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 1>about this, Like, I understand totally why they're like, oh,

0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:04.560
<v Speaker 1>it's like super Bad, but like with girls female super Bad,

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:08.000
<v Speaker 1>which is which is definitely a little reductive. There are,

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:10.280
<v Speaker 1>as we already pointed out, a lot of like story

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 1>points that are like that basically happens in super Bad.

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 1>But it also you know, avoids a lot of like

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:20.440
<v Speaker 1>the kind of bad mid to late adds teen movie

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:24.680
<v Speaker 1>tropes that super Bad does. But I mean it's like

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Beanie Feldstina is literally Jonna Hill's little sister. I understand

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 1>why the comparisons are being made. And she she had

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:34.320
<v Speaker 1>a quote she did a Hollywood Reporter interview. She said,

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:37.400
<v Speaker 1>book Smart does what super Bad did, which is celebrate

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 1>a female friendship within a huge comedy. And it's really

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 1>a relationship movie as much as it is an adventure

0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 1>high school comedy. And I was like, that was is

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 1>a little weird because super Bad in no way celebrates

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 1>female friendship. But does she mean just it celebrates friendship

0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 1>between two people between Yeah, just like a high school

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 1>friendship between dorks, which is true. Yeah, I mean also

0:24:59.800 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 1>both movies center around in the end of the year

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 1>senior in high school party. But like you were saying,

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and that's like the big deception at the end of

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:12.680
<v Speaker 1>like I'm actually doing this, Yester. Yeah, I'm like, I

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 1>now I want to sit down and like watch super

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Bad again, because like Book Smart is so like fresh,

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 1>but I can. I mean, I own the super Bad DVD.

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'll watch this once a year because

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 1>it's so funny, and then I stopped. Yeah, I mean,

0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>we think other movies came out, right, We did a

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Matreon bonus episode on on super Bad, so go back

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 1>and listen if you're a Matron. But so much fun

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 1>listening to you guys yesterday, like Blue Too through the

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Apartment just like creating up, Like holy sh it. They

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 1>should have talked about the Clovers more like, oh my god,

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:46.639
<v Speaker 1>that's episode I watched. Bring it on you guys if

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 1>you didn't want to listen to it, it's really great

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 1>with a plague. One of the huge differences between super

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Bad and Book Smart is that the messaging put forth

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:01.119
<v Speaker 1>is like wildly different. Were like super Bad is like

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:05.200
<v Speaker 1>steeped in toxic masculinity and like the character's motivations for

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:08.159
<v Speaker 1>that movie is like they're trying to get alcohol to

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:09.920
<v Speaker 1>take to the party, to feed it to the girls

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 1>who they like, so that they will have lowered inhibitions,

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:14.760
<v Speaker 1>so that they will have sex with the boys. All

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 1>the things that people lie about doing today. They're like,

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 1>this is the plot of the movie. Yeah, and like

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:23.159
<v Speaker 1>that it's like a funny, cute objective and it's like

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>it's so weirdrifying, it's so like rooted in that like

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:29.240
<v Speaker 1>nerd entitlement trope that we come up a lot of,

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 1>like and it's like in John Hughes movies all the time,

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>but like the whole young man who has been sexually

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 1>rejected a lot or like doesn't fit in, who then

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:43.040
<v Speaker 1>has to quote unquote resort to like physically abusing, lying

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>to and tricking women. Yeah, it's like I've got to

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:47.479
<v Speaker 1>use sorcery in order to get what I want rather

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:51.240
<v Speaker 1>than just like be me right, you know, like spells, vodka,

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 1>like lies, whatever, you know. Like thirty we have Mark

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Ruffalo being a warlock and using rushing dust. He has

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:10.199
<v Speaker 1>to do a whole complicated warlock some plot. But anyway, Yeah, so, um,

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 1>are there similar story beats in both movies? Yes, are

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 1>they totally similar shore, but there's fastest substance. What I

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 1>think is like cool is like it's it's weird because

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 1>I feel like any comparisons are sort of framed is

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>like it's the same movie, which it isn't. And it's

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:28.919
<v Speaker 1>also just like I feel like indicates because it's been

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 1>like twelve years I think since Superbad came out, and

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the world has shifted at least a little,

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:41.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's cool to see like kind of a similar framework.

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 1>It almost feels like a science experiment, like can we

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:49.160
<v Speaker 1>make a better version of this general formula? And yes, yeah,

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I like that. And that's that on Superman. So there's

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:56.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot to talk about with this movie. My hand

0:27:56.520 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 1>is full, it is, the palm is ready. So I

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 1>mean largely it is a movie celebrating female friendship. We

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>don't get that in movies nearly enough. So that's and

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:12.440
<v Speaker 1>like cool complicated female friendships because there's sometimes I feel

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 1>like kind of Merry Sewish female friendships where it's like

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.159
<v Speaker 1>they get along all the time, they love each other

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 1>and they respect each other, which is great, but it's

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 1>like not really like they're exactly the same. That's why

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:26.360
<v Speaker 1>they make they get like women who are different don't

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 1>get along. And it's like, no, they're They're not made

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>from the same mold, which is why it's so beautiful

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:34.199
<v Speaker 1>that they are so obsessed with each other. That's how

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 1>me and my friends are. We're so different, but we're same, same, same,

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 1>not the same, you know, right, And it's like you see,

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.479
<v Speaker 1>I like that. You see them in conflict with each other.

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>You see where they disagree on stuff. You can see

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 1>like one thinking that the other is like acting kind

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>of dome just like all this stuff that is actual friendships,

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>like when they when they get dressed and are wearing

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>the same things and are not upset about it. And

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like wow. Also, I was like, where do

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I find the jumpsuit because it's fanny Pack, Send me photo,

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:08.479
<v Speaker 1>I'll find it. And literally, there's nothing I enjoy more

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:11.719
<v Speaker 1>than finding like like an accessory or like a vintage

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 1>something online. I got you girl, Thank you so much,

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>fanny Pack. Clear my schedule. I gotta find back. They're

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 1>so different because we know so much about them because

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>the movie took care to develop both of these characters

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>enough that we understand their idiosyncrasies and all that stuff.

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>So very well done. I thought, yeah, I thought that

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the friendship is great and complicated and good, and I

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>loved it. Indeed, there's a lot of similarly good sort

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>of just messaging that the movie puts forth, you know,

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>advocating for body positivity, sex positivity. You know, there's like

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the scene where they turned into the dolls. I guess

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I blocked it out until you brought it up. I

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 1>like forgot that it was part of the movie, Like

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 1>it was unnecessary. It felt weird. Like we watched this

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>with our friend friend of the cast, Melissa Lozada Oliva,

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 1>and she was like, this movie at times, like this

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>movie was written by four people, and it shows that

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 1>is such a good analysis because that, like that scene

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>felt like of all the tropes that this movie avoids,

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, they could have avoided the drug scene.

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>It just like not that it's bad, it's just like

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>it just felt weirdly out of place. It feels tacked on.

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it almost like, first of all, I

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 1>don't think it was necessary, but I feel like the

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 1>way that they executed it was just wrong. Like I

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>feel like I would have enjoyed being that the characters

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 1>were so developed and they had so many different little idiosyncrasies.

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 1>It would have been fun to see those idiosyncrasies come out.

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Like I forgot that she was like, oh my god,

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 1>my mom loves me so much, and she's like I

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god, I forgot Whenever she said

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>she smokes, she thinks her mom's gonna die. And I

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>got super excited about that, and all of a sudden,

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 1>they were dolls, and I was like, it's just almost like,

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>you guys found a way, like do you guys, Have

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 1>you guys seen that episode of Broad City where they

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>do shrooms and it kind of reminds me of like

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 1>a water down version of that, but unnecessary. I think

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>what happened was that they wanted a way to like

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>talk about like body positivity, and they couldn't figure out

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 1>a way to like work it into the script organically.

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>So they're like, oh, maybe we'll just have them trip

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>and then they turn into like these Barbie dolls as

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>smart because that's what that function. That's what the scene

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>serves to do, is like them like, like, look how

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>unrealistic our bodies are, but also we kind of like

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 1>it look amazing. Oh my god. And she's like touching herself.

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>But at first it's like, wait, how do you even

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>stand up on this? Oh my gosh, my tops too

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 1>heavy and blah blah blah blah. My boobs are huge

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and they're smooth. And I mean, there's some funny lines

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 1>in there that like hit of like her like momentary

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 1>like this body makes no sense but I'm so smooth.

0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Stuff like that. It's funny, but it's just like, I

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:01.959
<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's weird, Like, first of all, i'd rather

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 1>see Caitlyn diaver and being felt seen have that conversation

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>in persons, like it just felt weird that they're animated.

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>And then I don't like what in the middle of

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>this movie, Like not that I don't dislike the message,

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>but it's just like, why are they talking about how

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 1>barbies are disproportionate in the middle of this movie that

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with how barbies are portionate. It's

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 1>almost as if they had a checklist of things that

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>were like they should and they were like, we forgot

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 1>body positives, so we got to get that back, like

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 1>our woke list. Yeah, well glist. It doesn't feel like

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>that because there's all these other different things where like

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>there's a conversation about like gender performance versus sexual orientation

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and how they're different and right, yeah, which at least

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>that fitting I mean a gender performance another thing for

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>me to learn and understand. But I'm so downing which

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and most of the time, like the little like woke

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>moments that they fit in story, I thought like pretty effective.

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>The Barbie thing felt kind of like out of place.

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I did, I agree with the point, but

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:07.719
<v Speaker 1>like why is this? It's like the point doesn't hit

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>home if it doesn't like fit in with the story, right,

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 1>And it's like we don't really see those two characters

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>like struggle with their bodies that much in the narrative,

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>so it just feels it just felt like kind of

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 1>that is a good point because it doesn't seem like

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>they really care like about that, which we all do.

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 1>But you know what I mean, like that wasn't a focus,

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>like a focal point for either of them. Right. There's

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 1>only one brief moment where Molly Beanie Feltine's character says

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:37.960
<v Speaker 1>something like, oh, Nick isn't ever gonna like me back

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 1>because he only talks to girls who look like Triple A,

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 1>and then Amy slaps her across the face right, being like,

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 1>don't you ever say anything which do that to a friend.

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I literally was like okay, so this is gonna get weird,

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 1>and she's like whine. I was like, if you were

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>someone else and you just said that about you, I

0:33:58.000 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 1>was like, I cussed that person out. So do you

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>really think I'm gonna sit here and let you talk

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>about yourself and be like yeah, that's great, Like what

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 1>am I supposed to do? Support you? Which means I'm

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 1>also knocking you down or like be a friend and

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>check you. And I was like, you can't say that

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 1>in front of me because you're essentially talking about my

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>friend in front of me, which is you, which is

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:18.719
<v Speaker 1>when I saw it, I was like, I've done that.

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:21.279
<v Speaker 1>I totally get it. I didn't slap her, but like

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>if we have another round, it's like if you keep

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>it up, no, it's common. But other than that brief moment,

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>we see them like building each other up, and like

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:34.399
<v Speaker 1>they look at each other and their outfits and they're saying,

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 1>you're so fucking beautiful, like look amazing. There's so much

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 1>like and the focal point is more their personalities then

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 1>their bodies at every point because it's like they call

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:46.280
<v Speaker 1>her a butter personality. They're worried about the classmates perceived

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 1>them personality wise, which they feel good about the way

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>they're made. Like they're like, we look hot, we look cool,

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:57.959
<v Speaker 1>We've got fanny pegs. It's just our personalities that which

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I think is another great strength of movie, because like

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:05.759
<v Speaker 1>Molly is plus size, but it's like so normalized. There's

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>no like there's you don't see anyone like calling her

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>fat or like commenting on her body. And aside from

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 1>that one comment, you know, she seems perfectly comfortable in

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 1>her own skin and like, which is like teen movies

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 1>need characters like that because there are girls who are

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 1>like I don't care about the fucking norm Like I

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>like the way I look. Yeah, And it's like usually

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I feel like in teen movies like this, if someone

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 1>is mothered in any way, that has to be the

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 1>focal knowledge. Yeah, it's like she's like like I remember

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 1>like the running joke, it's like she's the nerd of

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 1>the high school until you take her glasses off and

0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>she's beautiful. Like and I say that as someone who

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:55.360
<v Speaker 1>was in she's all that okay, So that all nineties

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:58.360
<v Speaker 1>movies like her hair straight and she's beautiful. It's like

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>we everard that movie on the podcast So Testament two

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>women threatened to kill each other. I don't even know

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 1>where to go from that. Yeah, that's great, We've got

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the movie sending messages of body positivity. And then on

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 1>that same vein like I feel like if you see

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>usually in a movie where you see a character who

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 1>looks like Molly, she wouldn't have a romantic interest, or

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 1>if she does have a crush on someone, it's unrequited,

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:36.759
<v Speaker 1>and if she were to talk to that person, like

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>she'd be really like flustered and nervous and like not

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>good at talking to like a crush. But like the

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:47.439
<v Speaker 1>flirt game is good, so forward and like the whole

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>like God, the teenagers talking to each other about Harry

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Potter houses. I'm like, you guys are such losers, but

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 1>it's so cute, which is I think what I love

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>the most about the two women is like they were

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 1>normally grounded in themselves, like they knew exactly who the

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.320
<v Speaker 1>funk they were, and they're like women who are thirty

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>who don't So it's so dope. You guys can't see

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 1>my arms up. But it's like crazy because it's like

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 1>you guys are barely like stepped into the world in

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 1>high school, which is like ruthless. You guys are firmly

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>grounded in who you are and like unapologetic because you

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 1>have nothing to apologize for in the first place, right,

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 1>And that's so like I've seen a few criticisms that

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 1>are like, well, teenagers aren't actually like that, and you're like, well,

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:31.320
<v Speaker 1>no fucking do. Teenagers aren't actually like that most of

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 1>the time. But this is like the kind of movie

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 1>that's like, you know, you're looking for, like as a teenager,

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:39.360
<v Speaker 1>like people to model yourself after. And so if you

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 1>see it's also like because you weren't in your friends

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:44.800
<v Speaker 1>or it doesn't mean they don't exist, like they're probably

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>like sure, I'm like, were you like super bad? No?

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Shut up? Like there there are so many like cool

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 1>example characters that like I wish I had seen when

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:57.439
<v Speaker 1>I was a teenager. And something I really liked about

0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 1>this movie is the that I think deviates for I'm

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:04.239
<v Speaker 1>like the teen movie like general formula, is that it

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 1>gives attention and care to its like b characters, yeah

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:11.239
<v Speaker 1>only show up in a few scenes, but pretty much

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:15.360
<v Speaker 1>everyone is fleshed out. My favorite example of that is

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Triple A. I loved Triple as character. She is framed

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning as sort of like a teen movie

0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 1>trope of like she's the quote unquote slutty hot girl

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 1>and then the mean girls. Yeah, because she's insulting Molly

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>in their gender neutral bathrooms and high school, which is

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.359
<v Speaker 1>great but also bad for Molly in that case because

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 1>boys are talking about her outside of the bathroom. And

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry to interrupt, but I just saw this

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 1>like the things that you notice as actors. We see

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.399
<v Speaker 1>like either like that one extra who's doing too much

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 1>in the background or blah blah blah, you know, like

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I love that person who's like whoa, whoa, how fights

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:55.719
<v Speaker 1>happening in the restaurant. I'm like that guy. That guy

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:57.799
<v Speaker 1>don't stop looking at it. But did you look at

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 1>like the like graffiti on the walls. It was like

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I was, but it was like the most beautiful writing.

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, okay, Like the set director was like,

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 1>don't don't mess with the paint too much, Like I

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 1>was like, this is so perfect, so perfect. I'm sorry.

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I totally just like I thought of the Herpedian was

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:21.839
<v Speaker 1>like that ship is such a set serfecter doing good work. Yes,

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 1>but Triple A she loved her. I loved her because

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:28.799
<v Speaker 1>then she immediately in the space of she's presented as

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 1>this sexually promiscuous mean girl. And then in that same scene,

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Molly you know, goes out to stand up for herself

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and is pretty rude and it's just like, well, you

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:41.359
<v Speaker 1>guys aren't going to good schools. And then it turns

0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:44.399
<v Speaker 1>out that like smashing it, Yeah, I didn't see that coming,

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 1>is also going to Yale, and like she just totally

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 1>subverts everything that you learned about her. And then there's

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 1>another scene with her and Molly at the end where

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 1>Triple A gives Molly ride home and says basically like

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 1>she was called like the hand job queen or something,

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and because yeah, she gave roadside assistance to men and like,

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 1>which is more clever than any teenager. But like sure,

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm like, I remember my nicknames. They were

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 1>never like oh wow, you actually are witty, Like it

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 1>was just like you're an idiot. Like I totally identified

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 1>with Triple A in like elementary school or not elementary

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 1>woe that would be like, let's learn about my childhood,

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 1>um junior high because like I was the little girl

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:32.319
<v Speaker 1>with huge lips and so all the boys started calling

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:36.799
<v Speaker 1>me DSL and you can figure out what they would

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 1>just be like, yeah, Vanessa's got that high speed internet.

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 1>And I was like what And then I was like, oh,

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 1>you guys are so fucking stupid. But I was like,

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 1>first of all, I'm fifteen, that's never happened. Like I

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>identified with Triple A. I'm like, everyone's like she's the

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 1>social one who parties, but I was like, I have

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>a four point one I'm going to USC and that

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 1>was like what Triple A does. At the end, she

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:02.720
<v Speaker 1>like says basically she's like, yeah, I've had sex before,

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:05.319
<v Speaker 1>and like she's very like sex positive about the way

0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 1>she presents herself. And she's like that people have the

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 1>wrong idea about me. I've literally just given people rides

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 1>home and then boys will like lie about like what

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I've done with them. But she does say she's done. No,

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:20.479
<v Speaker 1>but she goes, this is why guys say I've given

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:22.839
<v Speaker 1>roadside assistance because I picked them up. And she goes

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, like and I've also given I'm also blue

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 1>them but like it's not like I came over to do,

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 1>which I was like, hilarious, Like I didn't. I almost

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 1>thought that they weren't going to say that, which I

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:35.239
<v Speaker 1>thought would have been awesome. But I also like the

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.320
<v Speaker 1>fact that she's like, no, I did do that, but like,

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 1>does that because at the stake for it, like and

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:44.960
<v Speaker 1>then like it doesn't mean that she's stupid and it

0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that she's not going to be And then

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know the way she and Molly sort

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 1>of reconcile at the end, I'm like, Oh, they're going

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:55.399
<v Speaker 1>to be like roommates, and like that's so much fun

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 1>to see. I want that movie to backpedal a little

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:01.319
<v Speaker 1>further on her storylines. So before we even meet her

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 1>on screen, um, Molly and Amy are talking about her

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and call her Triple A, and Molly participates in this

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 1>what's essentially like a sledge shaming right name, and Amy's like,

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 1>don't call her that, and Molly's like, well, it's true,

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 1>like she gave this roadside assistance. And then later when

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Molly's in the car with her Triple A, who's I

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:25.440
<v Speaker 1>don't remember what what her actual name is, Annabelle, she

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 1>does this whole thing where it's like, you know, I

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:31.239
<v Speaker 1>understand the guys calling me that, but it really hurt

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>when the girls would call it me that, Like she

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I guess assumed there would be exactly um, so she was.

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 1>She was upset that the girls were calling her Triple

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:44.239
<v Speaker 1>A too, and then Molly's like, oops, I did that.

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 1>And then but then she's like Amy never called you that,

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:49.800
<v Speaker 1>And which is what I also like to is like

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know whether or not this is like a

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:54.879
<v Speaker 1>belief that is widely held, but I feel like there's

0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:57.960
<v Speaker 1>something where people don't get that women can also be

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>like funny and prey the and sociable and smart, like

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>we can do that, we can do both, we can

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:08.719
<v Speaker 1>have it all, and they also be funny, Like yeah,

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:12.520
<v Speaker 1>it's just wild, all of the possibilities. I guess I

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:15.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of misunderstood that final scene with Triple A and

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Molly because I I the way I interpreted it was

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 1>that yeah, she had like blown or given hand jobs

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:23.319
<v Speaker 1>to like some of the guys, but not all of them.

0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:25.760
<v Speaker 1>And like what resonated with me that I guess didn't

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 1>happen in that scene was that like there are times

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:33.799
<v Speaker 1>where like high school boys will overestimate what they did

0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 1>with a girl, which I thought wasn't which wasn't really

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:39.400
<v Speaker 1>like a point I see like addressed by the girl

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:43.239
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of movies, and so I guess, yeah,

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:46.240
<v Speaker 1>that didn't wish that that would happen. She basically happens.

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 1>She just essentially admits like, yeah, the things you heard

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 1>about me, Yeah, I did give some blow jobs, but

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:53.800
<v Speaker 1>it's because like I wanted to and I wanted to

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 1>enjoy myself, like and she refuses to be slight shamed

0:43:57.560 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 1>for her activity, which is great. Yeah, And then there's

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:03.320
<v Speaker 1>a few other like things that are like, you know,

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 1>promoting sex positivity in this movie that I really enjoyed,

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:08.880
<v Speaker 1>which is like just the friends encouraging each other to

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:12.920
<v Speaker 1>like explore their sexuality. Um, you know, Molly' is like, oh,

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:15.720
<v Speaker 1>I want you to like kiss a girl Amy finally,

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff. We see them talk about masturbation

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:23.239
<v Speaker 1>and like share masturbation stories. They watch porn together. Oh

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, what I so did with like my best

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:29.080
<v Speaker 1>friend of just like let's let's figure this out. We

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 1>have access like duh, hasn't before, like private browsers, so

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 1>we were just like fuck it. Let's get in there

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:41.759
<v Speaker 1>on desktops like, I don't know, do you know? Okay, well,

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>what is how do you google? You can literally like

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:47.719
<v Speaker 1>google sheer tights and everything will come up, like you know,

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 1>like you don't even have to try hard. Uh. And

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 1>then another moment I liked along that same vein was

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:56.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a rumor that has been spread around about Jared

0:44:56.960 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and how he lost his virginity to when he was

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:03.239
<v Speaker 1>fourteen to a sex worker, which is language that I've

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:05.600
<v Speaker 1>never heard in a movie, like someone say the word

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 1>sex worker, which things yeah. And then later on Jared

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>reveals that he didn't have sex with a sex worker.

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 1>He didn't He's never had sex with anyone, which he's

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:18.440
<v Speaker 1>like not ashamed to admit. He tells this two of

0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:22.359
<v Speaker 1>those girl that he has a crush on, He's just like, yeah,

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I have not fucked, and I'm okay, that's hot Jared.

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I love the fact that when they're talking about his rumor,

0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:31.800
<v Speaker 1>she's like, this is too crazy of a rumor to

0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 1>not be true. And I literally was like, because like

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:38.439
<v Speaker 1>I've I've I've just accepted that to like who would

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 1>make that up? But it's like a lot of people

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 1>made a lot of people. Yeah, I mean, and Jared

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 1>is like another one of those like sort of be

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 1>characters that you end up getting that full arc with

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:51.120
<v Speaker 1>where I feel like, if this movie was made ten

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:54.400
<v Speaker 1>years ago, that would just be the joke, like the

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:56.920
<v Speaker 1>like we don't really pay attention to him, but we

0:45:57.000 --> 0:45:58.640
<v Speaker 1>like that he has a lot of money, right, eccentric

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 1>rich kid, slut shamed girl like that those would have

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:05.000
<v Speaker 1>been the one note. But this movie like does a

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 1>really good job of like giving them their own moment

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:10.959
<v Speaker 1>in the sun without it being too much. Yeah, it's cool.

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:14.879
<v Speaker 1>And then like Hope, who is the hot girl who

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Amy huks up with in the bathroom, Like we get

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 1>to see her a second time, and she's not just

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 1>sort of like put in the like random hot girl.

0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like in a different movie girl, she

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 1>would have been mean or she like but she is

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of mean. She was met at the beginning scene,

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:34.920
<v Speaker 1>like I remember like seeing her and just being like, oh,

0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:37.240
<v Speaker 1>she's going to be a pain in the ass all movie.

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 1>And then she was back at the end and but

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 1>then she kind of resolves at the where she's just

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 1>like hey, Hope. But then in the bathroom even she's

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 1>just like, you fucking idiot, you're crying in a bathroom.

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't like meek people. And then that prompts Amy

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:56.879
<v Speaker 1>to a surprise kiss her, which there's two surprise both

0:46:56.920 --> 0:47:01.200
<v Speaker 1>of the protagonists of this movie. And Beanie felt seems

0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:03.960
<v Speaker 1>surprised because I was, truly I was like, where did this?

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know that they set up her and Jared,

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 1>but like that kiss at the end, You're like, this

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 1>is very Sadden. Yeah, there's two surprise kisses in this movie.

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Uh so you know we're not all the way there.

0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 1>There's still surprised kisses and a predatory teacher. Yeah, those

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 1>are some of the things that I didn't care for.

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's take a quick break and then we'll come

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 1>back for more hot discourse. And we're back. Let's talk

0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:37.960
<v Speaker 1>about Jessica Williams. We're going to negatives, or let's go

0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 1>into some negatives, because there are a few. This is

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 1>not a perfect movie. God, I just like Jessica Williams

0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 1>is so funny, like in the first half of her

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:50.359
<v Speaker 1>scenes when we see her at school, and then when

0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:52.360
<v Speaker 1>we even when we see her like pick up the girls,

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, man, like you should go to a

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:56.840
<v Speaker 1>party like I wish I had because and then she

0:47:56.880 --> 0:48:02.800
<v Speaker 1>talks about that ship was hilarious at the sensation that

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 1>was so funny. And then I feel like the movie

0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:09.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of like sells her character out and kind of

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:13.280
<v Speaker 1>make and they make her a predatory teacher, which doesn't

0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:15.360
<v Speaker 1>seem like the character we met at the beginning of

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the movie. Yeah, there's THEO is his name, who failed

0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:23.080
<v Speaker 1>seventh grade twice, so he's older, he's twenty, which they go.

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the movie tries to get a pass

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>by stating that several times, and they're like, we're not

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:30.640
<v Speaker 1>making it like weird, like but you're still at like

0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:34.800
<v Speaker 1>you're still fired, like you're out of best guess is

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 1>like they're making another attempt to like subvert a trope

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:41.000
<v Speaker 1>where it's like, oh, look, how cool it is that

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:44.160
<v Speaker 1>an older woman gets with a younger man, because we

0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:47.920
<v Speaker 1>don't see that that much. The problem is that power dynamic,

0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:52.319
<v Speaker 1>power dynamic exactly. It is also being at your students party.

0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:56.840
<v Speaker 1>You're fired, You're fine. There's all these other probably underage kids,

0:48:56.880 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 1>they're they're all drinking like you're like cool, this is yeah,

0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 1>make sure your homeworks in on Monday. And don't take

0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that jello like what Like, I just feel like like

0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:08.680
<v Speaker 1>when she was driving off, you could like see in

0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:11.480
<v Speaker 1>her mind her thinking about possibly going to the party,

0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and I was just hoping it didn't happen. And there

0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:17.320
<v Speaker 1>was no reason for her to happen, because it's not

0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:20.839
<v Speaker 1>like we saw them hooking up or anything like yeah, yeah,

0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:22.840
<v Speaker 1>it was so I mean that was another thing that

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:25.399
<v Speaker 1>I think is like this movie was written by four people,

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and this movie, the first draft of this movie was

0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:31.840
<v Speaker 1>written ten years ago, so the first there's four everyone

0:49:32.000 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 1>credited on this on the screenplay as a woman, but

0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the first draft was written in two thousand and nine

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:41.400
<v Speaker 1>by Emily Halpern and Sarah Haskins, So that to me

0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:44.279
<v Speaker 1>felt like some first draft ship. Oh yeah. And I

0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:46.120
<v Speaker 1>feel like two thousand nine was at the hilt of

0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:49.480
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, students and teachers are hooking up like yeah,

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, well, let's do a little twist on

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:56.440
<v Speaker 1>this that's like ultimately misguided and doesn't help the story

0:49:56.680 --> 0:49:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and just is a waste of Jessica Williams and I

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:03.920
<v Speaker 1>mad about it. And to be honest, like there were

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:07.160
<v Speaker 1>no brown women in that movie, Like there were no

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 1>like this. That's the thing that drove me insane about

0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:12.439
<v Speaker 1>this movie. I think it did such a great job

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:16.160
<v Speaker 1>of showing high school men in every light, and we

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:19.000
<v Speaker 1>only had white high school girls. Yes, it was a

0:50:19.320 --> 0:50:22.880
<v Speaker 1>huge missed opportunity. Like and here's the thing is, like

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I always think about that when I think about representation

0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:28.560
<v Speaker 1>in movies, like okay, Like you know, you get a

0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:32.480
<v Speaker 1>script or an audition and it'll say, like Vanessa twelve

0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 1>to fifteen. I've never I'm never going to play that

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:35.840
<v Speaker 1>age right now, but you get what I'm saying. And

0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll either say like African American or all ethnicity, And

0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:42.080
<v Speaker 1>so I wonder what this like, was it specified all

0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:44.359
<v Speaker 1>ethnicity and these girls just happened to be the best,

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:46.440
<v Speaker 1>which they were fucking awesome, Like I won't take that

0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:50.839
<v Speaker 1>away from them. Or was it one that was specifically Caucasian?

0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, there's so many Like to me, none

0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:57.800
<v Speaker 1>of the actual girls in the high school, their personalities

0:50:57.880 --> 0:51:01.160
<v Speaker 1>weren't specific to a culture. Sure, so they could have

0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:03.239
<v Speaker 1>been any culture, you know what I mean? Like I

0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:08.720
<v Speaker 1>would say, like, what is uh not Beanie's character Amy Amy?

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Like okay, so we saw her parents, I understand that,

0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 1>but like Beanie, Like Beanie could have been like a

0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:17.040
<v Speaker 1>mixed race easily because we never saw her parents, you know,

0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:21.680
<v Speaker 1>like any of the g a, any of those girls

0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:25.000
<v Speaker 1>could have been Asian, Hispanic. Like the dude who hooked

0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:29.280
<v Speaker 1>up with Jessica Williams was Mexican. He says that he's Mexican. Mean,

0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:31.799
<v Speaker 1>there's two Asian dudes. We've got two gay guys, we've

0:51:31.840 --> 0:51:34.920
<v Speaker 1>got two black dudes. Like there's so much diversity in

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:37.120
<v Speaker 1>the high school meant and you, I didn't see myself

0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:39.680
<v Speaker 1>so bizarre like that is I feel like one of

0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:43.839
<v Speaker 1>the big I was so confused by that of this movie. Yeah,

0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the representation from male high schoolers is they nailed it

0:51:47.200 --> 0:51:49.680
<v Speaker 1>over the place they nailed it and who knows what

0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the actual process was. But this is a movie that

0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:57.000
<v Speaker 1>was directed by a white ladies, written by four white ladies,

0:51:57.560 --> 0:52:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and that shows in the way that like, I mean,

0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:05.320
<v Speaker 1>they're representing themselves. And that's unfortunate because it's like, I

0:52:06.000 --> 0:52:08.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know any white girls who went to high school

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:12.360
<v Speaker 1>with only white girls, like and if they did, they

0:52:12.400 --> 0:52:14.879
<v Speaker 1>were like ship, dude, I had to like figure it out,

0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:17.160
<v Speaker 1>like I like it was because of where I lived,

0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:20.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, like but in most cities, and that seemed

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:22.480
<v Speaker 1>to be like an l A or a New York

0:52:22.719 --> 0:52:28.600
<v Speaker 1>or something like that, like a diverse group of classmates

0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:32.080
<v Speaker 1>they're in they're in l A. Like and and especially

0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:35.680
<v Speaker 1>like the male population of the school is diverse, why

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:39.560
<v Speaker 1>would the female population not. Like I literally was like

0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:45.279
<v Speaker 1>there was not one woman of color besides mis fine, right, yeah, no,

0:52:45.680 --> 0:52:48.279
<v Speaker 1>that's insane. And that is like the one thing that

0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:50.800
<v Speaker 1>does kind of bother me about the discussion that is

0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:54.879
<v Speaker 1>surrounded this movie is that Olivia Wilde has come out

0:52:55.080 --> 0:52:57.799
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit, and like rightfully so in a lot

0:52:57.840 --> 0:52:59.880
<v Speaker 1>of ways, being like this is a movie for women,

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:02.680
<v Speaker 1>like we we need people to go see this movie,

0:53:02.680 --> 0:53:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and like she's really been pushing it and saying like,

0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:07.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, like everyone has to see this movie or

0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:11.400
<v Speaker 1>women can't make movies anymore, which you know, like I

0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:13.440
<v Speaker 1>understand where she's coming from, where it's like it's hard

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:15.680
<v Speaker 1>for women to get second chances. And the same thing

0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:17.719
<v Speaker 1>with the black meniti there, like it takes twenty years

0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:19.400
<v Speaker 1>to get funded and then Black Panther came out and

0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:25.080
<v Speaker 1>now we're good. Yeah, thank you so much, Marvel. But

0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:28.440
<v Speaker 1>she I mean but she's only representing like white women

0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and her movie, and that's a legitimate complaint that I

0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:35.000
<v Speaker 1>don't think that she is really addressed or taken and stride.

0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:37.719
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I was like trying to think of

0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:40.360
<v Speaker 1>it outside of like, so, what are the possibilities that

0:53:40.400 --> 0:53:42.719
<v Speaker 1>could have landed in this way? Like is it all ethnicity?

0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Then these girls, like I get it, Like you see

0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:47.719
<v Speaker 1>someone You're like, I wanted it to be a black person,

0:53:47.800 --> 0:53:50.440
<v Speaker 1>but this girl nailed it, Like that's g G. You know,

0:53:50.640 --> 0:53:53.839
<v Speaker 1>Like so I understand like that, but I'm also like, really,

0:53:53.920 --> 0:53:58.880
<v Speaker 1>there so many talented color who could have been cast, like,

0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:02.480
<v Speaker 1>don't sense it's not the Well. The other thing too,

0:54:02.600 --> 0:54:04.800
<v Speaker 1>is that a lot of the like top build actors

0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:08.600
<v Speaker 1>are white. Because you've got Jason Sudeikis, Will Forte, Lisa Crudro,

0:54:08.719 --> 0:54:10.319
<v Speaker 1>they're hardly in the movie at all, but they got

0:54:10.400 --> 0:54:13.359
<v Speaker 1>top billing because they're famous people. And then they're all

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:16.680
<v Speaker 1>still white. And then yeah, I mean the classmates and

0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:19.880
<v Speaker 1>the fact that they're all white women. They could have

0:54:19.960 --> 0:54:23.920
<v Speaker 1>done so much, And I just feel like sometimes you

0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:27.000
<v Speaker 1>don't need to justify why someone is a different race,

0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:30.440
<v Speaker 1>because no one really justifies whiteness in films, it's just

0:54:30.560 --> 0:54:32.399
<v Speaker 1>like that is it is, it is. It's so much

0:54:32.440 --> 0:54:35.560
<v Speaker 1>else in this movie is very normalized, like the queerness

0:54:36.239 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 1>body like it's all very normal. And then like you

0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:42.480
<v Speaker 1>could have just introduced many characters who are women of

0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:45.279
<v Speaker 1>color and also had that just be normal, and then

0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:47.080
<v Speaker 1>they just didn't do everywhere. And it's like with the

0:54:47.200 --> 0:54:50.560
<v Speaker 1>casting thing, it's just like if you can't find like

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:54.759
<v Speaker 1>a woman of color who is super funny and in like,

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you're just not looking hard enough. Like it's just it's

0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 1>just like if if that they ever came back with,

0:55:01.200 --> 0:55:03.640
<v Speaker 1>like well they just it's like, no, you just weren't

0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:05.880
<v Speaker 1>looking hard enough and you weren't and that's like an

0:55:05.920 --> 0:55:09.479
<v Speaker 1>insult to like every woman of caller who's an actor

0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:13.480
<v Speaker 1>who's like bomba and I'm like, okay, the what was

0:55:13.560 --> 0:55:17.160
<v Speaker 1>her name? Hope I could have justified or validated her

0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:20.240
<v Speaker 1>being like anything, Like she could have been half Native American,

0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:22.160
<v Speaker 1>she could have been this. She doesn't had to be hot,

0:55:22.360 --> 0:55:24.400
<v Speaker 1>but we just didn't know, like I have no idea

0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:26.600
<v Speaker 1>what her ethnicity is. But at the end of the day,

0:55:26.640 --> 0:55:29.919
<v Speaker 1>she could still fall in like slightly olive white girl

0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:31.920
<v Speaker 1>with brown hair, like you know what I mean, I

0:55:32.040 --> 0:55:35.359
<v Speaker 1>just wish that there was something, especially because the boys

0:55:35.400 --> 0:55:38.879
<v Speaker 1>they were more diverse, like and there were less white

0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:46.759
<v Speaker 1>boys than there were brown boys boys. And then George, yes, uh,

0:55:47.160 --> 0:55:49.520
<v Speaker 1>it's very and Melissa pointed out when we were watching

0:55:49.560 --> 0:55:51.640
<v Speaker 1>as well, she's like the only brown woman who's even

0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:56.160
<v Speaker 1>mentioned is Rosa Parks when they're like listing off their

0:55:56.200 --> 0:55:58.239
<v Speaker 1>list of heroes. That was another thing that was like,

0:55:59.000 --> 0:56:01.560
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a thing, but it's just like in Malala,

0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I guess brown girls are there. Then they also mentioned

0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:10.279
<v Speaker 1>Susan be Anthony, who was extremely racist. Never there there

0:56:10.760 --> 0:56:12.360
<v Speaker 1>and like the way I don't know, like I know,

0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:15.160
<v Speaker 1>a weird white feminism thing, like what there I mean,

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:20.680
<v Speaker 1>even the way they say it. No, I mean it's

0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:24.240
<v Speaker 1>like there is the way that their rooms were designed,

0:56:24.320 --> 0:56:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like annoying, which I hate to say, but

0:56:27.360 --> 0:56:30.719
<v Speaker 1>but there is like very like their their rooms were

0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:33.800
<v Speaker 1>given up white feminism hard where it was like framed

0:56:33.840 --> 0:56:37.239
<v Speaker 1>pictures of Ruth Baygenberg and like but like it was

0:56:37.320 --> 0:56:40.080
<v Speaker 1>like pussy hat feminism where it was just like vaguely

0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:43.239
<v Speaker 1>consumer and which which I know is just like sort

0:56:43.280 --> 0:56:46.640
<v Speaker 1>of shorthand for like these woke young white girls. But

0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:48.799
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I don't know, I was how we all

0:56:48.840 --> 0:56:50.759
<v Speaker 1>felt about Lena Dunn. I'm saying that, like, you know,

0:56:51.400 --> 0:56:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I was rolling my eyes at the set, like the

0:56:53.200 --> 0:56:56.640
<v Speaker 1>way they presented of like you know, wearing like pussy patches.

0:56:56.680 --> 0:56:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm sure if I were a high schooler

0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:00.560
<v Speaker 1>in twenty nineteen, I would I would do that to

0:57:00.640 --> 0:57:03.200
<v Speaker 1>an extent. But I was like, man, there's like, wait,

0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:05.200
<v Speaker 1>the pussy patches thing, I don't remember that she just

0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:07.960
<v Speaker 1>had she had like different patches of like vaginas, and

0:57:08.040 --> 0:57:10.160
<v Speaker 1>she had like vagina posters in her room. So I

0:57:10.280 --> 0:57:12.320
<v Speaker 1>totally didn't see that. The set to time, it was

0:57:12.400 --> 0:57:15.400
<v Speaker 1>like it was very pussy hat feminism, which I'm like

0:57:15.960 --> 0:57:22.480
<v Speaker 1>always vaguely annoyed by because it's vague nothing there's another

0:57:24.160 --> 0:57:28.360
<v Speaker 1>do it. There's also some you know, like trans erator

0:57:28.520 --> 0:57:32.479
<v Speaker 1>with that kind of stuff. But there's another um moment

0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:36.240
<v Speaker 1>where I was like this is everything. Like there's another

0:57:36.320 --> 0:57:39.960
<v Speaker 1>moment where um, like the white privilege really comes through

0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:42.720
<v Speaker 1>where Amy there's like a video of her getting arrested

0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:45.160
<v Speaker 1>and she makes a joke about not having a gun.

0:57:45.280 --> 0:57:47.400
<v Speaker 1>She like call She's like a call shotgun and then

0:57:47.440 --> 0:57:49.320
<v Speaker 1>she's like just kidding, I don't have one. And it's like,

0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:52.200
<v Speaker 1>because you're a white girl, that had no consequences, but

0:57:52.280 --> 0:57:55.040
<v Speaker 1>if you were brown or black, like you would have

0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:58.880
<v Speaker 1>probably been shot. So okay, as the brown one at

0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the table, I didn't even think of that. Thank you

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:05.040
<v Speaker 1>so much for bringing that up, like like, and that's

0:58:05.080 --> 0:58:07.240
<v Speaker 1>the thing that's crazy to me sometimes. It's like sometimes

0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:09.320
<v Speaker 1>those things are so normalized to me, like, oh, she

0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:11.560
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to deal with that, Like if it had

0:58:11.640 --> 0:58:13.600
<v Speaker 1>been a brown roy I'd be like, oh, like because

0:58:13.600 --> 0:58:17.479
<v Speaker 1>it would be me, like I know, yeah, wow yeah.

0:58:17.840 --> 0:58:19.680
<v Speaker 1>And then like by extension of that, like if she

0:58:19.920 --> 0:58:22.439
<v Speaker 1>was that extremely arrested, the fact that it's that easy

0:58:22.520 --> 0:58:24.560
<v Speaker 1>for her to get out is very I was saying that,

0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:26.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, it was like, don't even bring it up.

0:58:26.480 --> 0:58:28.160
<v Speaker 1>But I was like where her parents, Like they were

0:58:28.200 --> 0:58:30.400
<v Speaker 1>so involved, but no one gives a ship now like

0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:33.080
<v Speaker 1>and then I was like she was out within a day.

0:58:33.240 --> 0:58:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Like we've all had a friend who had to spend

0:58:34.720 --> 0:58:37.840
<v Speaker 1>a night in jail. It's not that easy, Like you

0:58:37.960 --> 0:58:41.680
<v Speaker 1>have to tell their parents, Like you have to tell her. Yeah, yeah,

0:58:41.760 --> 0:58:43.680
<v Speaker 1>that was like a weird thing. I mean, and then

0:58:44.040 --> 0:58:46.320
<v Speaker 1>something I wanted to bring up quickly that was, like

0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I think, I think my last negative feeling about this movie.

0:58:51.120 --> 0:58:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure it was the lack of like in

0:58:54.840 --> 0:58:56.640
<v Speaker 1>the same way that there's like a lack of self

0:58:56.680 --> 0:59:00.479
<v Speaker 1>awareness about like the white feminism that's present in this movie,

0:59:00.680 --> 0:59:04.000
<v Speaker 1>there's also a complete lack of self awareness with class,

0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:07.320
<v Speaker 1>which I think is like such a teen movie thing

0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:11.440
<v Speaker 1>and a children's entertainment thing in general, that like this,

0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's room to comment on it in this movie.

0:59:14.840 --> 0:59:17.720
<v Speaker 1>There in Los Angeles, there's such a wide array of

0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:21.560
<v Speaker 1>like classes present in the city, and this movie is

0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:24.240
<v Speaker 1>like like most teen movies, it's about upper middle class

0:59:25.080 --> 0:59:28.040
<v Speaker 1>kids who there is no I mean, especially where it's

0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:30.480
<v Speaker 1>like the discussion is they're getting ready to go to college,

0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:35.240
<v Speaker 1>which is like the most devastating financial commitment, like people

0:59:35.280 --> 0:59:37.240
<v Speaker 1>who are not in a position for their parents to

0:59:37.360 --> 0:59:41.040
<v Speaker 1>pay for their school. It's just weird that it's completely

0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:43.520
<v Speaker 1>not press that would have been cool, like if there

0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:46.080
<v Speaker 1>was like a kid who was like down and out

0:59:46.280 --> 0:59:48.720
<v Speaker 1>like or like, I feel like they did such a

0:59:48.760 --> 0:59:51.720
<v Speaker 1>good job of taking the secondary characters and giving them

0:59:51.760 --> 0:59:53.439
<v Speaker 1>a moment in the sun. They could have easily taken

0:59:53.640 --> 0:59:56.200
<v Speaker 1>one of those guys and like added that in, you know,

0:59:56.480 --> 0:59:59.200
<v Speaker 1>like whatever it may be. Like maybe it took him

0:59:59.240 --> 1:00:01.520
<v Speaker 1>two years to plead high school because he was helping

1:00:01.560 --> 1:00:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the family with a part time job or something like that.

1:00:04.240 --> 1:00:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't, I don't know. Maybe that's why THEO failed

1:00:06.840 --> 1:00:08.880
<v Speaker 1>seventh grade so many times. Yeah, because he was like,

1:00:08.960 --> 1:00:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I gotta keep the lights on. I mean, I liked

1:00:11.640 --> 1:00:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he's going to go be a coder

1:00:13.240 --> 1:00:15.919
<v Speaker 1>at Google, but like that, I mean, there are times

1:00:15.920 --> 1:00:18.000
<v Speaker 1>a charm. I'm like, this guy, these kids are so

1:00:18.120 --> 1:00:21.240
<v Speaker 1>damned community. That's like I'm like that is like the

1:00:21.840 --> 1:00:24.920
<v Speaker 1>like coder prodigy character like that, but the I mean,

1:00:25.040 --> 1:00:27.840
<v Speaker 1>just in general, I think that there's just like in

1:00:28.080 --> 1:00:31.240
<v Speaker 1>most teen movies I watched growing up, there was like

1:00:31.440 --> 1:00:36.120
<v Speaker 1>no one from like my class reflected, and so it's

1:00:36.160 --> 1:00:38.720
<v Speaker 1>like where are the poor kids? Like right, because I

1:00:38.880 --> 1:00:40.880
<v Speaker 1>was a poor kid in a super rich high school

1:00:40.880 --> 1:00:43.200
<v Speaker 1>and I was like wait, so like I remember coming

1:00:43.240 --> 1:00:45.240
<v Speaker 1>to school with a guess bag and like it has

1:00:45.320 --> 1:00:48.400
<v Speaker 1>the same triangle as the product triangle and they were

1:00:48.400 --> 1:00:51.040
<v Speaker 1>all like, oh, it's guess and I was like, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's still whole. Ships also a fancy brand or am

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<v Speaker 1>I just not PC people? Okay? They were like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>you bore. Then I was like I begged my mom

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<v Speaker 1>for this. What you talking about? My chapstick is in here,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm killing it. Like I don't feel sorry for me there.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want there to be teen movies where teenagers

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<v Speaker 1>are wearing their cousins clothes. Like that was like where

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<v Speaker 1>is that? I mean? And that's just like something that

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<v Speaker 1>this movie doesn't really because all these movies need there

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<v Speaker 1>was there was a really good Twitter threat I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I had the name of the user. Then found like

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<v Speaker 1>the scene where the like girl goes, you know, dives

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<v Speaker 1>into an in ground pool and it's all in her

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<v Speaker 1>feelings in these teen movies and like I didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>into like an in ground pool till I was like twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>like there is where but yeah, the like girl and

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<v Speaker 1>her feelings and the in ground pool shot is it's

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<v Speaker 1>becoming I mean I do have pool scene written down

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<v Speaker 1>on here. Yes, but mostly because one thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>loved about this movie was the music. I love the music.

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<v Speaker 1>The music supervisor nailed it, like really helped me get

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<v Speaker 1>into the emotions like and here's the thing. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like an actor, I am such an audience member,

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<v Speaker 1>like I like, I'm like, I'm all the way in.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I would be great at any test audience

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, I'm going to feel the moment, like

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<v Speaker 1>when she saw them underwater Ryan and guy who I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember that Nick. Yeah, I was like, we've I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about you guys. That's happened to that's happened

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<v Speaker 1>to me where I've seen the dude I like kissing

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<v Speaker 1>a girl at a party, and I thought that we

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<v Speaker 1>were like on our way to like crush status. God. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Can Fidler. Yeah, the music is from I've never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of this artist, but Dan the automator, Daniel Nakamura. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess he's a famous San Francisco and he artist

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<v Speaker 1>he did the whole score. Yeah. Yeah. The music supervisor

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<v Speaker 1>who like did the soundtrack to was also point I

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<v Speaker 1>do like that they had the library scene too. I

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<v Speaker 1>do want it. I wanted to point that out because

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, they talk about how smart they are

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<v Speaker 1>the entire time, and I'm glad that they actually showed

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<v Speaker 1>them like get down to business at they're great at

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<v Speaker 1>And I love a good montage of like there's an okay.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing that a trump at this movie avoided that

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate was like there was no like clothes trying

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<v Speaker 1>on montage where it's like we're going to a party,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got to find the best off it. Instead, they

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<v Speaker 1>have a self defense montage where they're like teaching themselves

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<v Speaker 1>self defense, which was in like you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>friends with those girls, which is awesome. Yeah, there's some

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<v Speaker 1>goofy and fun. The other thing that this movie avoided

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<v Speaker 1>that I noticed was there's so many teen movies that

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<v Speaker 1>ends in prom. This did not end in prom. It

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<v Speaker 1>ended I mean, but I think that that is again

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<v Speaker 1>like super Bad also, I mean I think that that

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<v Speaker 1>is that might come from like kind of the mold

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<v Speaker 1>that they're they're pulling from a little bit is like

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<v Speaker 1>they're making a movie that has mainly been taken up

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<v Speaker 1>by male characters before and they're making it a woman's

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<v Speaker 1>story because I feel like, yeah, there's so many I

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<v Speaker 1>feel I'm like there was a draft of Book Smart

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<v Speaker 1>that ended in from and not what we're discussing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's cool because it ends in graduation, which makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense because their academics and then and then when the

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<v Speaker 1>car pulls into the football field, you're like, yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so exciting. That was exciting. Although, Grandma Caitlin here, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I didn't care too much about this

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<v Speaker 1>movie is that it makes irresponsible driving seem cool and

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<v Speaker 1>fun because they were like driving like a bat out

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<v Speaker 1>of hell. There was so much. All of your parents

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<v Speaker 1>are away right now, and you know teams are going

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<v Speaker 1>to see that, and they're going to think I should

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<v Speaker 1>drive like that, and they're going to cause an accident anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I cancel on you. I mean, I was fine with

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<v Speaker 1>their driving. They were driving a car with flames on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna drive that. It's true. My boyfriends driving

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<v Speaker 1>a truck with flames on it right now, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know we were making bad decisions on the highway. We're

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<v Speaker 1>driving a truck with flames. I don't care if I die.

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<v Speaker 1>If I die, I'm dying in a truck with flames.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully it doesn't happen, but I'll be like, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted, you guys. So she's fucking resting in peace.

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<v Speaker 1>She's resting in flames. By yes, please put ari I

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<v Speaker 1>f on my two stone. Resting in it also implies

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. Another big discussion that we should cover is

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<v Speaker 1>the representation of queerness in this movie. Yes, we talked

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<v Speaker 1>to our friends Ellie Bridgeta and Lee Holmes Foster Or

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<v Speaker 1>on our deb's episode of the Let's Hangout podcast. They're

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful and they kindly, uh. We asked for their perspective

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<v Speaker 1>on how they felt about how queerness was represented in

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<v Speaker 1>the movie, and they gave us truly wonderful, comprehensive thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>that we would like to share. Ye. Should we just

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<v Speaker 1>go back and forth on the on the boy first

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<v Speaker 1>point is book Smart subverts LGBTQ tropes and gives us

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<v Speaker 1>a lesbian lead character, Amy, who has already been out

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<v Speaker 1>for two years at the start of the movie. She

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<v Speaker 1>is confident in her sexuality and knows she likes girls.

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<v Speaker 1>Her best friend is supportive, even encouraging her to lose

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<v Speaker 1>her lesbian virginity with a joke about scissoring, which could

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<v Speaker 1>be cringeworthy except for the subsequent exchange with Amy claiming

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<v Speaker 1>that quote lesbians don't scissor and Molly arguing don't knock

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<v Speaker 1>it till you try it, which a is totally valid

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<v Speaker 1>and b is some sort of meta humor given that

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<v Speaker 1>Beanie Feldstein is dating a woman in real life, which

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<v Speaker 1>I did not realize that. Yeah cool. Next point, Amy's

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<v Speaker 1>parents are also supportive of her without question and skipping

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<v Speaker 1>Amy's coming out story, we instead get to focus on

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<v Speaker 1>Amy as a person and get to see the high

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<v Speaker 1>school experience we've seen in every straight high school movie

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<v Speaker 1>ever from an out lesbian high school experience, which totally

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<v Speaker 1>agree with. Again, in the same way that, like Beanie

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<v Speaker 1>Feldstein's body doesn't become her story, like Amy's sexuality doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>become her door. Yeah. Both again very normal co stars

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<v Speaker 1>to who they are. Yeah, they're so comprehensive. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much, so much appreciative. Next point, Amy's initial love interest,

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan is also an interesting subversion of lgbt Q trips.

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<v Speaker 1>She wears board shorts, she skates boards, and she has

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<v Speaker 1>short haircut. Amy spends half of the movie trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out if she's gay or not, until she sees

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<v Speaker 1>her making out with Nick, who is Molly's love interest.

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<v Speaker 1>This shows that gay girls don't have to look a

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<v Speaker 1>certain way to be gay, and someone can quote look

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<v Speaker 1>like a lesbian and still not identify as one gender

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<v Speaker 1>expression is completely different from how you express your sexuality,

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<v Speaker 1>which they basically said in the movie. Yeah, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting here just so in uh. The sex scene

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<v Speaker 1>between Hope and Amy is also well done and realistic.

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<v Speaker 1>Amy doesn't have a perfect first time, but she does

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<v Speaker 1>get the hot girl in the same way that the

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Sayers of the world have been getting hot girls

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<v Speaker 1>for years. The only love scene in the whole movie

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<v Speaker 1>is a queer love scene. There are some makeouts, but

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<v Speaker 1>the sex scene is reserved for our lesbian high school protagonist,

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<v Speaker 1>which I've never seen a movie. Yeah, awesome that that happens. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>the one sex scene you get is a queer god

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<v Speaker 1>and sex scene. And even though things do go wrong

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of a goofy jet apta way, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not specific to her sexuality. It's just an awkward

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<v Speaker 1>seene sex scene because she's just inexperienced. I did find

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<v Speaker 1>it hard to suspend my disbelief for Amy not knowing

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<v Speaker 1>the difference between a butt hole and a vagina, like

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<v Speaker 1>what that would feel like and where the positioning. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like it's I'm like, you have both and

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<v Speaker 1>you know the like proximity vicinity and like they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the general I mean, I don't know, I've made some

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<v Speaker 1>weird mistakes, and like everyone makes weird I I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with them. Like, well, I guess she's probably wait wait,

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<v Speaker 1>hold up, hold up, no no, no, no, no, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so wait, I'm just thinking that the visuals I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Okay. So Beanie was like, flip it. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's why she messed up. That's the only thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I could possibly be like, maybe she didn't think like

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<v Speaker 1>flip myself, but flip, I don't know. I'm the thing

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<v Speaker 1>I can maybe think to justify that was that she's

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<v Speaker 1>presented as being so awkward when it comes to her

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<v Speaker 1>like talking to her crushes, which I think is really

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<v Speaker 1>like I said before, like Molly is like super confident

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<v Speaker 1>around her crush and it's like really good at flirting.

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<v Speaker 1>By contrast, Amy, who is like the person who like

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<v Speaker 1>more traditionally adheres to Western beauty standards and as usually

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<v Speaker 1>like that type, is usually presented as being way smoother

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<v Speaker 1>with like their crushing. But she's so awkward. Well, and

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<v Speaker 1>I do like like that she has a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of anxiety, but it doesn't take over her whole character

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<v Speaker 1>about like well, I don't know how this girl identifies.

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<v Speaker 1>And my favorite way that that is like expressed in

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<v Speaker 1>a very kind of subtle, funny ways when she's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how she's going to Botswana and she's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't got to Uganda because like Uganda's every like

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<v Speaker 1>very anti queer, and then she just says almost like

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<v Speaker 1>would you be afford to go to That's such like

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<v Speaker 1>that was my It was so sweet. It's just like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, how could you not want to like

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<v Speaker 1>just come over and hang out with me and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>protect you guys for the rest of your life. So sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>It was adorable. So one thing that does kind of

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<v Speaker 1>bug me about that scene, and I touched on a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, the scene where they're in the bathroom and

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<v Speaker 1>Hope and Amy are hooking up, is that the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of precursor to them kissing and hooking up is Hope

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<v Speaker 1>pretty aggressively nagging Amy and then that gets her to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh you're so hot, smooch like surprise kiss,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I feel like that could have been

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<v Speaker 1>handled better. We're like, why is Hope this like needlessly

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<v Speaker 1>meme girl? And like why does that turn Amy on? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>And then, especially in like a movie that generally does

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<v Speaker 1>well by its B characters, like there could have been

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<v Speaker 1>something set up between those two characters earlier, but it

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<v Speaker 1>feels so sudden. I mean, they had a very very

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<v Speaker 1>very short exchange when they walk into the classroom, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was so short that I don't remember what Hope said.

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember her giving attitude, and I remember because

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen it three times. This is why we need you. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It's right after they score Jessica Williams's character's phone number,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Hope Hope says, oh, you got your teacher's

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<v Speaker 1>phone number, and she's like yeah, She's like okay or

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<v Speaker 1>cool or something like that, and it's like maybe she's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to flirt, and like maybe she's using nagging as

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<v Speaker 1>a flirtatious tactic, or maybe she's just she send something

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<v Speaker 1>like have a good date this weekend or something like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of I don't know, to like set up like

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<v Speaker 1>it was weird. I guess Hope is just the one

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<v Speaker 1>who's like, we don't understand why she's mad, but like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she'll she'll figure it out and let us know.

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<v Speaker 1>She's just very Oh that's why I Hope mad. That

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<v Speaker 1>the girl sent us two more point two point sex

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<v Speaker 1>one is um Benie Feldstein, who plays Molly Amy's straight

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<v Speaker 1>best friend, is also an openly queer actress, which gives

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<v Speaker 1>a movie extra points for casting queer actors and a

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<v Speaker 1>queer movie, even though Molly isn't playing the lesbian character,

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<v Speaker 1>which is great because queer actors don't always have to

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<v Speaker 1>play queer characters like that's not yeah, And we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about that on the recent Carol episode to where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like straight actors are usually cast to be the ones

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<v Speaker 1>playing queer characters. It's much rarer to see out queer

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<v Speaker 1>actors being cast at all, much less than straight. What

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<v Speaker 1>happens more with women where they cast queer women in

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<v Speaker 1>straight roles more than interesting. My few examples that I

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<v Speaker 1>have off the top of my head are Ellen Page,

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<v Speaker 1>Kristen Stewart, and Portioned Dirassi. Yeah, I mean they've been

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<v Speaker 1>it is it is harder to think about the top

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<v Speaker 1>of mine. That might be one of the I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be interested in what where queer friends have to

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<v Speaker 1>say about that, because it might be like something that

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<v Speaker 1>is a little bit easier for women, which is rare

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<v Speaker 1>to say ever, but like the only out male actor

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<v Speaker 1>I can think. I mean, like Neil Patrick Harris is

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<v Speaker 1>the one. Yeah, but I can't think, like I can't think. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's um the dude on suits. I can't remember his name.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who that is? That Meg and Marco's

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<v Speaker 1>show or was that a different one? No, I'm confusing

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<v Speaker 1>brunettes with blue eyes. He's so cute too. Um, Zachary

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<v Speaker 1>Quinto often some straight roles or is it the prison

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<v Speaker 1>break dude? Oh? What is his went Worth? No? Not

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<v Speaker 1>went wore Miller? And then you've got like Ian McKellen

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<v Speaker 1>is cast as scandal as Yeah, who I mean because

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<v Speaker 1>Magnetia genderless? Yeah? Yeah, I mean I guess that there

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<v Speaker 1>are examples that would be fun, like not fun, but

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<v Speaker 1>like something interesting to explore. Yeah, for sure, I mean yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we would be if any of our queer listeners have

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<v Speaker 1>opinions on that, we would we would love to hear

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<v Speaker 1>it and or other examples. Yeah, and finally, uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>last point that they sent along was all in all,

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<v Speaker 1>we would have killed for this type of representation in

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<v Speaker 1>high school. AMI sexuality is basically a non issue. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>questions it, Nobody bullies or teases her for it multiple

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<v Speaker 1>side characters are queer fluid in various ways, also without

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<v Speaker 1>facing any social repercussions, and the jokes are never at

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<v Speaker 1>the expense of queerness. What a welcome delight and want

1:14:21.200 --> 1:14:24.440
<v Speaker 1>a delight for them to have shared their wonderful perspectives.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks again to Ellie and Leaves to listen to the

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<v Speaker 1>Debs episode we did with them, yes, and just to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to their podcast in general. Yeah, something that I

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<v Speaker 1>liked that the trope that this movie did adhere to

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<v Speaker 1>was that many of the high school seniors are years old.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just a trope I'll never get tired of. I

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<v Speaker 1>love you know, It's like, all power to the child actors.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, you know, we're out here, we're twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six years old, and we need people to think we're eighteen.

1:14:54.920 --> 1:15:00.519
<v Speaker 1>And I appreciate that the Billy Lord twenty six year old.

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<v Speaker 1>Visibility it's seated was high. A couple other things I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to point out because I thought they were

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<v Speaker 1>funny or relatable. Amy does not do well on pot.

1:15:13.400 --> 1:15:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I found that very relatable for me. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>panic attack anytime I consume marijuana. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, visibility it's important here. And then Molly has

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<v Speaker 1>a crush on a guy that she does not want

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<v Speaker 1>to have a crush on, And I also found that

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<v Speaker 1>very relatable because like, yes, I there have been shitty men.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you hear my gasp? I just went through all

1:15:36.880 --> 1:15:38.760
<v Speaker 1>my trump I just let it all out right there?

1:15:39.760 --> 1:15:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Did you have any one last quick little thing? I

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<v Speaker 1>did enjoy the scene in the lift where their principle

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<v Speaker 1>is pitching them his detective novel and he's like, oh,

1:15:51.640 --> 1:15:53.360
<v Speaker 1>you guys would like this, which I feel like people

1:15:53.439 --> 1:15:55.160
<v Speaker 1>say to me all the time, like knowing that we

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<v Speaker 1>do this podcast, yeah, they're like he's like, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a female detective who is pregnant, and every

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<v Speaker 1>time she has a hunch, the baby kicks. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he's like he's like, I haven't worked out what happens

1:16:06.640 --> 1:16:08.360
<v Speaker 1>when she gives birth, but like that's where I'm at

1:16:08.439 --> 1:16:11.280
<v Speaker 1>right now, and it's just like, oh, okay, a man

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<v Speaker 1>trying to write a pregnant woman. You know, he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an ally and like read a bug dork. But

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<v Speaker 1>then the last real point that I have is that, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this movie, at the time of this recording hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>doing super well at the box office. It's gross fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars. That I think is a complicated discussion though,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was there. I think that there is like

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<v Speaker 1>a weird that was just like that. That's what was

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<v Speaker 1>part of the discourse around this movie, like in the

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter discourse just like it kind of it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>rubbed me the wrong way because I feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>was sort of a cut and dry like see people,

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<v Speaker 1>hey women. It's like, well, this movie was released at

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<v Speaker 1>a weird time, like it was released. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>know it was out. That's the problem, Like how can

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<v Speaker 1>I see something if I don't know what exists? It was, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the marketing was off. It was released between The Avengers,

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<v Speaker 1>between Aladdin, between these don't do blockbusters. You don't like

1:17:10.800 --> 1:17:13.760
<v Speaker 1>you can't do like a unfortunately like a feel good

1:17:13.920 --> 1:17:19.360
<v Speaker 1>person driven story like during Yeah, just don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It just seems like a silly business decision up with

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<v Speaker 1>like high school graduation time. Sure, yeah, it didn't. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of like stuff that I've read because

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<v Speaker 1>I do agree with the sentiment that it is. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like when you're a female director, it is harder

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<v Speaker 1>to get a second opportunity to make a movie if

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<v Speaker 1>your movie didn't absolutely kill it the first time, and

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<v Speaker 1>that your work is just automatically held to a higher

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<v Speaker 1>standard success. I totally agree with that. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit it's little more complicated than it's

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<v Speaker 1>been presented, and that if this movie had been released

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<v Speaker 1>in like August, it may have performed if it was

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<v Speaker 1>coming out in a less crowded like because there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of discussion of like, well, Aladdin fu killed

1:18:03.000 --> 1:18:04.479
<v Speaker 1>it at the box office, and I'm like no, but

1:18:04.560 --> 1:18:06.240
<v Speaker 1>of course people are going to go see that just

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<v Speaker 1>to see it, Like I remember, yeah, are you joking? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't even call me when The Lion King is coming

1:18:12.320 --> 1:18:14.800
<v Speaker 1>out in July, Like I'm like, I'm booking out for

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<v Speaker 1>the entire month, Like I can't. Like I took a

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<v Speaker 1>photo by Simba when I went to go see Endgame

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<v Speaker 1>the other day, and I was like, lock it up,

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<v Speaker 1>lock it up. I'm about to be Oh my gosh,

1:18:26.040 --> 1:18:28.800
<v Speaker 1>what And that was that deal And that was like

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<v Speaker 1>a bad look for a lot of people criticizing it

1:18:30.760 --> 1:18:33.280
<v Speaker 1>because they're like, it's a movie with all white girls,

1:18:33.320 --> 1:18:35.719
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, well, like Aladdin has a majority

1:18:36.240 --> 1:18:38.320
<v Speaker 1>PC cast and it's like, no, that's not the hell

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<v Speaker 1>to die on. Like it's just like the discussion around

1:18:42.800 --> 1:18:45.000
<v Speaker 1>it was very weird. I wish it had done better

1:18:45.080 --> 1:18:46.800
<v Speaker 1>at the box office, but I sort of understand why

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. Of course, like at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's kind of tough to hear this is a

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<v Speaker 1>movie about women, and then women who are hearing the

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<v Speaker 1>message don't see any women reflected in the cast. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like I don't go see movies like, Okay,

1:18:58.520 --> 1:19:01.040
<v Speaker 1>we match, I'll go watch No that it's not my standard,

1:19:01.280 --> 1:19:04.639
<v Speaker 1>but it would be nice to see like a bouquet

1:19:04.720 --> 1:19:07.840
<v Speaker 1>of kids in that movie, and we women didn't like

1:19:08.040 --> 1:19:10.960
<v Speaker 1>young adolescent women didn't get that. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would have been so the movie is written

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that there's no reason it wouldn't be that. Yeah,

1:19:15.600 --> 1:19:19.920
<v Speaker 1>it's so. Maybe it would have been too perfect to

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<v Speaker 1>take it down a notch, have something to strive for

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<v Speaker 1>in the second one. I get it. I get it. Okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>um what I will say. Though, Even though the box

1:19:28.800 --> 1:19:31.680
<v Speaker 1>office numbers aren't great, the movie again at the time

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<v Speaker 1>of this recording, has a nine seven percent on Rotten Tomatoes.

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<v Speaker 1>Which I think is encouraging and a you know, departure

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<v Speaker 1>from what we've seen in the past, where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ten years ago, twenty years ago, where mostly male critics

1:19:46.479 --> 1:19:51.439
<v Speaker 1>were would be reviewing female driven movies and hating them

1:19:51.800 --> 1:19:55.000
<v Speaker 1>just because they were female driven. So it was at

1:19:55.080 --> 1:19:57.519
<v Speaker 1>least encouraging to me to see that it has such

1:19:57.560 --> 1:20:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a high score with critics, because that hopefully means things

1:20:02.040 --> 1:20:04.519
<v Speaker 1>are changing a bit. Yeah, and I have no and

1:20:04.600 --> 1:20:09.519
<v Speaker 1>I honestly I have no doubt that, like Olivia, I

1:20:09.600 --> 1:20:12.360
<v Speaker 1>have such doubt. And yet in this case, I have

1:20:12.600 --> 1:20:16.040
<v Speaker 1>no doubt. I have no doubt that Olivia Wilde will

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<v Speaker 1>get to make another movie, which again is she's a

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<v Speaker 1>famous white lady, h and so there is some privilege

1:20:21.360 --> 1:20:23.720
<v Speaker 1>there too, Like I don't know, she'll get to make

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<v Speaker 1>another movie, and I hope that she includes women of

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<v Speaker 1>color in her next one. She will after the Twitter

1:20:29.680 --> 1:20:33.479
<v Speaker 1>feed probably so it seems like she is reading the comments,

1:20:33.640 --> 1:20:36.479
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, honestly, yes, and she's she's going

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to this episode and she's gonna be like, Wow,

1:20:39.360 --> 1:20:42.920
<v Speaker 1>the Bechel cast want women of color in the movie,

1:20:43.000 --> 1:20:47.680
<v Speaker 1>but Vanessa is not allowed to audition. You're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the star of book Smart to the college version.

1:20:51.160 --> 1:20:55.080
<v Speaker 1>That will be really fun. Melissa just texted me. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think my favorite part of Book Smart was that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone was excited to see them at the party. Was like,

1:21:02.680 --> 1:21:05.120
<v Speaker 1>it's true. Everyone's like that. It's true. Though, like no

1:21:05.200 --> 1:21:07.760
<v Speaker 1>one was like, oh the nerds came. Everyone was like,

1:21:07.840 --> 1:21:11.519
<v Speaker 1>we've been waiting for this. It was such a supportive movement.

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<v Speaker 1>We wish that was our high school. God. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was all I had. Did anyone have any

1:21:17.840 --> 1:21:21.040
<v Speaker 1>other final points? Check your hand that you've written on

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that's making me really sad is towards the

1:21:23.640 --> 1:21:27.160
<v Speaker 1>bottom I have don't trust, But I don't remember why

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote it. I mean a good general rule. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>is that? Oh that's because that's what Michael Brian's character

1:21:34.240 --> 1:21:37.200
<v Speaker 1>says in the car to them. He's like, don't trust

1:21:37.439 --> 1:21:39.080
<v Speaker 1>people because they like get into that car, and he

1:21:39.160 --> 1:21:43.000
<v Speaker 1>like gives this whole monogue how scary people can be

1:21:43.720 --> 1:21:47.360
<v Speaker 1>a queen and a psychic. Obviously, I like, because I

1:21:47.439 --> 1:21:49.320
<v Speaker 1>was like, I was like, I'm probably have to email

1:21:49.360 --> 1:21:50.920
<v Speaker 1>them later and be like I figured out what don't

1:21:50.960 --> 1:21:53.760
<v Speaker 1>trust on my finger pad means? But we got it.

1:21:53.960 --> 1:21:56.000
<v Speaker 1>It's also I mean, he's giving them very good advice,

1:21:56.080 --> 1:21:58.360
<v Speaker 1>but then he turns out to be a I didn't

1:21:58.400 --> 1:22:03.000
<v Speaker 1>see that coming. I mean, um, hey, does this movie

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<v Speaker 1>pass the Bechtel test percent? Lots and lots. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>if I may just give a fun little easter egg,

1:22:11.200 --> 1:22:15.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what this is. Um. In Amy's house,

1:22:15.720 --> 1:22:18.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a sign on her bedroom door that says a

1:22:18.360 --> 1:22:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Room of One's Own, which is the title of the

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<v Speaker 1>extended essay by Virginia Wolf. That is partly what Alison

1:22:26.439 --> 1:22:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Bechdel attributes the Bechtel test to. Nice. So a nice

1:22:31.320 --> 1:22:35.280
<v Speaker 1>little Bechtel test tie in in the movie. Just I

1:22:35.400 --> 1:22:38.400
<v Speaker 1>think they put that there for us. I think Olivia Wild,

1:22:38.680 --> 1:22:43.240
<v Speaker 1>she's ready, Olivia Wild, come on the cast. Yeah, we'll

1:22:43.280 --> 1:22:48.479
<v Speaker 1>have you any time. Come on. That's my new approach,

1:22:49.360 --> 1:22:53.200
<v Speaker 1>shaming women into coming on the podcast. That's my offen.

1:22:53.439 --> 1:22:55.679
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be like, we've never had as many guests

1:22:55.720 --> 1:23:00.719
<v Speaker 1>approaches ever. But yeah, this movie passes a million times

1:23:00.800 --> 1:23:04.960
<v Speaker 1>between many, many different combinations of characters and strong strong

1:23:05.040 --> 1:23:08.920
<v Speaker 1>showing a Betel test here. Let's rate the movie on

1:23:09.280 --> 1:23:13.040
<v Speaker 1>our nipple scales zero to five nipples based on its

1:23:13.080 --> 1:23:17.960
<v Speaker 1>representation of women. I think I'm gonna go. I want

1:23:18.000 --> 1:23:22.080
<v Speaker 1>to say, like a four point to five. I think

1:23:22.200 --> 1:23:26.479
<v Speaker 1>it does really well. In many regards. Where I'm docking

1:23:26.560 --> 1:23:32.120
<v Speaker 1>it is the failure to represent women of color, the

1:23:33.200 --> 1:23:37.679
<v Speaker 1>surprise kisses, which were tropes that should have been avoided.

1:23:37.800 --> 1:23:40.000
<v Speaker 1>But I guess it's like, well, we're subverting it because

1:23:40.040 --> 1:23:44.320
<v Speaker 1>it's women surprise kissing men in this movie. But an

1:23:44.360 --> 1:23:47.240
<v Speaker 1>all female rebit of surprise kisses, I'm not on board.

1:23:47.439 --> 1:23:51.120
<v Speaker 1>That should not be surprised. No genders should surprise kiss

1:23:51.160 --> 1:23:58.400
<v Speaker 1>any other gender. Is yeah, just those few different things

1:23:58.479 --> 1:24:02.400
<v Speaker 1>like that which were miss steps here and there that

1:24:02.600 --> 1:24:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't a fan of. But overall, I think the

1:24:05.439 --> 1:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>movie does a pretty spectacular job. And I'll give it

1:24:08.800 --> 1:24:14.080
<v Speaker 1>four point to five nipples, and I will give one

1:24:14.560 --> 1:24:19.160
<v Speaker 1>to Beanie, one to Caitlin Deaver. Is that how you

1:24:19.240 --> 1:24:24.280
<v Speaker 1>say it? She does? Her dad is Barney Dad. She

1:24:24.479 --> 1:24:30.320
<v Speaker 1>give one to Barney, don't Barney's. And then I'll give

1:24:31.040 --> 1:24:37.680
<v Speaker 1>one to Billy Lord, Carrie Fisher's daughter, and I'll give actually, no,

1:24:37.800 --> 1:24:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to give one nipple to Jessica Williams, and

1:24:40.680 --> 1:24:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll give my quarter nipple to Billy Lord. Sick. I'm

1:24:45.520 --> 1:24:48.439
<v Speaker 1>gonna give this, Oh, this is gonna be too mean.

1:24:48.560 --> 1:24:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give it three point five though, um I especially,

1:24:53.040 --> 1:24:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean even and I probably would have given it

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<v Speaker 1>a little more before this discussion. But I feel that

1:24:58.560 --> 1:25:02.120
<v Speaker 1>after talking about a little bit, like the only including

1:25:02.439 --> 1:25:07.000
<v Speaker 1>white women is such a mistake and such a huge

1:25:07.920 --> 1:25:10.719
<v Speaker 1>lost opportunity, especially like it bothers me when a movie

1:25:10.840 --> 1:25:15.160
<v Speaker 1>really is selling itself as like the woke and then

1:25:15.200 --> 1:25:18.320
<v Speaker 1>it raises all women of color like that is fucking

1:25:18.880 --> 1:25:22.519
<v Speaker 1>stupid and annoying. I don't like that the only like

1:25:22.600 --> 1:25:25.120
<v Speaker 1>women of color, they include they like subject to this

1:25:25.280 --> 1:25:28.800
<v Speaker 1>shitty trope, the fat storyline, the fact that there's a

1:25:28.800 --> 1:25:31.680
<v Speaker 1>predatory teacher at like all even think about her name

1:25:31.760 --> 1:25:34.439
<v Speaker 1>is fine. Like I was like, yeah, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are kind of like feeding this to me,

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<v Speaker 1>like she's fine as fuck, and like okay, and I

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<v Speaker 1>got hit the all female reboot of a predatory teacher

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<v Speaker 1>another about that another election kind of thing, totally yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like that that does that trope doesn't work

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<v Speaker 1>when it's inverted. It just doesn't work. Ever, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's illegal. Um and and I own just

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<v Speaker 1>like the lack of any sort of acknowledgement of class

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<v Speaker 1>in a teen movie is something that always bugs me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe I'll do like three point seven five.

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<v Speaker 1>We can the same way. I think maybe three point

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<v Speaker 1>seven five, because there are the things that this movie

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<v Speaker 1>gets right. It gets really right that l g B

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<v Speaker 1>t Q representation is strong and and and good, and

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<v Speaker 1>from what we can tell from people we've spoken to,

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<v Speaker 1>is very reflective of that experience as a teen. The

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<v Speaker 1>female friendship is incredible, and the lifting each other up,

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<v Speaker 1>like the good stuff is really good, and the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that is off just doesn't make sense to me for

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of and I think that like if there

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<v Speaker 1>were more um there was, like not for white ladies

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<v Speaker 1>writing and directing this movie, that they these are mistakes

1:26:51.240 --> 1:26:54.479
<v Speaker 1>that could have been avoided. And and also uh like

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<v Speaker 1>for privileged white ladies too, because I feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>may not have occurred to any of these women to

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<v Speaker 1>include someone of a different class just because they're reflecting themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>So three point seven five from Little Jamie, I give

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<v Speaker 1>one Beanie one to Caitlin one. Thank you so much. Jessica. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when do you Sinkalen Deever? No, no, she spells her

1:27:20.880 --> 1:27:25.280
<v Speaker 1>name wrong. She spells it wild one. Jessica Williams, give

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<v Speaker 1>me my point seven five to either Barney or Jared.

1:27:30.120 --> 1:27:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I can't decide feminist icon Jared. I love that Jared

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<v Speaker 1>was doing his best. I hope in college He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wait, Cheryl Samberg is not the feminist icon I

1:27:41.360 --> 1:27:44.400
<v Speaker 1>was looking for. Anyways, he'll pick up bell Hooks his

1:27:44.439 --> 1:27:50.080
<v Speaker 1>freshman year and we'll figure it out. Vanessa, Wow, Wow, guys, Okay. Um,

1:27:51.040 --> 1:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like numbers, numbers. I started off a little

1:27:53.160 --> 1:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>higher and then I got a little bit lower. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally agree with you. Like, I think that's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's so upsetting about this movie is like it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a missed opportunity because they nail so many things

1:28:03.000 --> 1:28:05.360
<v Speaker 1>that you don't expect to get out of a teen movie.

1:28:05.880 --> 1:28:08.679
<v Speaker 1>And then it's like, to me, it's so much harder

1:28:08.760 --> 1:28:13.559
<v Speaker 1>what they nailed that they forgot, Like just diversity, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm like. It's so like I feel like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they put so much time into developing the b characters

1:28:19.120 --> 1:28:21.519
<v Speaker 1>and like all of that that they forgot, and like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to give the four white ladies like

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give them the benefit of the doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes it makes me wonder, like, how can you

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<v Speaker 1>look at your main characters and be like this represents

1:28:32.080 --> 1:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>all women that It would make me want to step

1:28:35.040 --> 1:28:37.400
<v Speaker 1>back and be like, do I understand what representation of

1:28:37.479 --> 1:28:41.040
<v Speaker 1>women really means? You know? Honestly? Like that and the

1:28:41.120 --> 1:28:46.360
<v Speaker 1>barbies like my biggest issues. I just wish that wasn't there. Um. Yeah,

1:28:46.400 --> 1:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that is my main issue with that.

1:28:50.560 --> 1:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>And then I also feel like, yeah, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>everything you guys said, I like lost some of it.

1:28:54.640 --> 1:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at my hand and I'm forgetting. So I

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<v Speaker 1>have to give out three point seven five nipples. Think

1:29:00.200 --> 1:29:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I just really wanted to get to that part. It's

1:29:02.360 --> 1:29:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a fun part. Yeah, it's bomb Okay. So I'm gonna

1:29:05.160 --> 1:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>give one nipple to their friendship because it's just like, oh,

1:29:10.439 --> 1:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>it's so pure. Um. I'm gonna give one nipple to

1:29:14.640 --> 1:29:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Gigi's disappearing act because that bitch can teleport. It's amazing.

1:29:18.760 --> 1:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Was that disrepectful? She can like, I'm like women and

1:29:23.000 --> 1:29:25.479
<v Speaker 1>that so she can do that. I think she's a

1:29:25.560 --> 1:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>time traveler. That's much. Yeah, she's the shape shifter. She Yeah,

1:29:28.920 --> 1:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>she's like going in and out of the Star Wars Universe.

1:29:32.720 --> 1:29:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give a nipple to the pool scene and

1:29:35.280 --> 1:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>the music because it really took me on a journey.

1:29:38.680 --> 1:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>And then I'm going to give my seven my point

1:29:41.200 --> 1:29:47.320
<v Speaker 1>seven five to Alan's speech at the beginning of Mystery Party.

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<v Speaker 1>If there were two, he would have been, they would

1:29:50.160 --> 1:29:52.479
<v Speaker 1>have had four nipples. If he had had to If

1:29:52.520 --> 1:29:54.599
<v Speaker 1>you had done that speech twice, it could have gone up.

1:29:54.760 --> 1:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>If Georgia just let him finish. I was like, he

1:29:58.160 --> 1:30:00.760
<v Speaker 1>definitely gets a nipple. That also best. One of my

1:30:00.800 --> 1:30:03.479
<v Speaker 1>favorite jokes in the movie is just like very subtle

1:30:03.560 --> 1:30:05.960
<v Speaker 1>in the beginning when like they're all in the classroom

1:30:06.040 --> 1:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and George is like, there's no spatial awareness at the school.

1:30:09.560 --> 1:30:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I also love when he was like, I don't audition

1:30:11.439 --> 1:30:13.920
<v Speaker 1>offers only it's like you're in a high school play.

1:30:14.840 --> 1:30:17.320
<v Speaker 1>And the way that they got their their drama speach

1:30:17.320 --> 1:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning where they're like, it's in the parking

1:30:19.040 --> 1:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of a Whole Foods. Also, it was the play

1:30:21.840 --> 1:30:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I did last summer at camp. I'm like, yeah, that

1:30:23.960 --> 1:30:27.559
<v Speaker 1>is what drama kids are like. So I love them.

1:30:27.680 --> 1:30:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, Well, Vanessa, thank you so much. For

1:30:30.840 --> 1:30:33.360
<v Speaker 1>being Thank you guys. This was like a delight. No,

1:30:33.520 --> 1:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>you guys are killing it. My brain cells are all activated.

1:30:38.320 --> 1:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for coming. We're so like excited to have

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<v Speaker 1>your anytime. If you guys ever need me back Miles

1:30:46.720 --> 1:30:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Miles lives to see another day. Thanks Miles. Where is

1:30:52.160 --> 1:30:54.400
<v Speaker 1>there anything you'd like to plug? And where can people

1:30:54.400 --> 1:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>fall you online? Let's see, I've got an episode of

1:30:57.439 --> 1:31:00.080
<v Speaker 1>Animal Kingdom coming out in a couple of weeks. They

1:31:00.160 --> 1:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>put a bunch of fake tattoos on me. I loved it. Oh,

1:31:04.080 --> 1:31:06.439
<v Speaker 1>I have this really cool show coming out in uh

1:31:07.200 --> 1:31:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Fall with the funnier diet called The Coope. It's it's

1:31:11.240 --> 1:31:13.639
<v Speaker 1>interactive so it's murder mystery and you have to help.

1:31:13.760 --> 1:31:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Like it's choose your own affection. It's really dope. Reading

1:31:16.880 --> 1:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the script was very confusing. I was like, I know, oh,

1:31:19.360 --> 1:31:22.639
<v Speaker 1>it's choose your own adventure, got it. It's really it's

1:31:22.720 --> 1:31:25.599
<v Speaker 1>creak and filming it was insane, but it's I've never

1:31:25.760 --> 1:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>laughed and broke character so many times because everyone was brilliant. Yeah,

1:31:30.040 --> 1:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm on Instagram Vanessa l Chester just yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for thank you for having me.

1:31:36.720 --> 1:31:39.160
<v Speaker 1>This was a great, great day, so much fun. I

1:31:39.240 --> 1:31:41.320
<v Speaker 1>feel I want to do this with every movie, like

1:31:41.439 --> 1:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I need you guys like to let me have like

1:31:43.760 --> 1:31:46.280
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1:32:56.800 --> 1:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>show at and Bro Fringe Fest or I'll cry. I'llkay. Anyways,

1:33:01.160 --> 1:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm gonna be crying all summer. But

1:33:02.880 --> 1:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>that's okay, Yeah, see you this show and other than that, Um,

1:33:09.720 --> 1:33:12.120
<v Speaker 1>go go read a book, Go read a go be

1:33:12.240 --> 1:33:14.880
<v Speaker 1>book smart. Oh wait, can't say one more thing. So

1:33:15.160 --> 1:33:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I was like, maybe the movie didn't perform all at

1:33:17.280 --> 1:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>the box office because the word book is in the

1:33:18.960 --> 1:33:22.960
<v Speaker 1>title and people hates Like if it was called movie smart,

1:33:23.439 --> 1:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>people will go to see if they just audiobook smart

1:33:27.240 --> 1:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>every movie. Like, I'm their sounds like, let's work. Let's

1:33:30.479 --> 1:33:33.280
<v Speaker 1>change the name of our podcast to podcast Smart podcast

1:33:34.720 --> 1:33:37.360
<v Speaker 1>hard Pass. Fine, okay, bye,