WEBVTT - Eggs in the fridge, expired meds, loud sneezes, and more (Mailbag)

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Manny, I'm Noah. This is Devin and this is

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<v Speaker 1>no such thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The show where we settle our dumb arguments and yours

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<v Speaker 2>by actually doing the research. Today's episode is another mail

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<v Speaker 2>bag episode. We're gonna be talking about eggs, sneezes, medicine,

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty four hour day, and whether grape or strawberry

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<v Speaker 2>is the traditional jelly and a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

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<v Speaker 1>No, there's no no such thing, no such thank no touch,

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<v Speaker 1>thank touch, thank touch thank all right, We're starting with

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<v Speaker 1>a question from Fran who is based in London. She says,

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<v Speaker 1>just had a somewhat heated debate last night with my

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<v Speaker 1>flatmates about whether eggs should be kept in our fridge

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<v Speaker 1>or not. Our fridge is small and we only have

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<v Speaker 1>one shelf each, so all three of us having our

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<v Speaker 1>own carton of eggs takes up a lot of space.

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<v Speaker 1>I personally have always grown up with my family keeping

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<v Speaker 1>eggs in the fridge, but one of my flatmates keeps

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<v Speaker 1>harries out on the counter and said we should too.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they last longer if kept in the fridge or

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<v Speaker 1>does it remove any nutritional value? So before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into friend, what do you guys do with regard to eggs.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you gotta put your eggs fridge?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I put a lot of stuff in

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<v Speaker 2>the fridge that maybe doesn't necessarily need.

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<v Speaker 4>To be in the fridge, but eggs just out of space,

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<v Speaker 4>leaving your milk out here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do think it is a US UK divide

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps in my head. It's just like, yeah, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make it last a little bit longer. Yeah, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>colder in there. What do you leave out of the

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<v Speaker 2>fridge that could be refrigerated?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think I don't put like potatoes and your

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<v Speaker 4>stuff like that the fride?

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting?

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<v Speaker 4>Big?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>No ketchup in the fridge.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy, ever, Now that's no like my ketchup cold.

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<v Speaker 3>I want my ketchup. Ketchup.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have open ketchup in your cabinet.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not Yeah, it's opened as and I used it

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<v Speaker 4>before and then I toasted that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's open though. Yeah, Yeah, it's not sealed. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's opened, it's unsealed.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't need to be refrigerated, does it say that? Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Because look we're getting confused here between there's things that

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<v Speaker 4>need to be refrigerated.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's things that they're that's what we're discussed.

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<v Speaker 3>There's things that there's things that they recommend.

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<v Speaker 4>Refrigera ketchup is one of those things that they're like, actually,

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<v Speaker 4>it'll be better if you refrigerated.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, how quickly are you going through ketchup?

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<v Speaker 3>I got a big one from Costco, so it takes

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<v Speaker 3>me a while.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm only really using it on like if I

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<v Speaker 4>get a if I make burgers or something like that,

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<v Speaker 4>or hot dog.

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<v Speaker 1>So it will last a long while.

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<v Speaker 4>I've had that ketchup. Look, this is not the first

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<v Speaker 4>time in life that I've done it. Actually just opened

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<v Speaker 4>a new, huge thing of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So but by the time you're getting to the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>is you don't notice anything.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's what I'm saying. I've been through this in

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<v Speaker 3>my life.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm living that way, not just recommending it and

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<v Speaker 4>not doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got bread in the fridge, all vegetables, including potato, butter.

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<v Speaker 3>And a fridge.

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<v Speaker 4>You put your you put your potatoes in a fridge.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeat that often, but I've never I've never done that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't put them in the fridge. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I try to keep most produce. Well, it depends on

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<v Speaker 1>the produce. I mean, but like if it's not cut

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<v Speaker 1>at all, I'm trying to keep it fresh outside, especially

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, once you cut it, then I put it once

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<v Speaker 3>it's cut.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, onions. What about butter for you guys? See, butter

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting because I always grew up butter in the fridge.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a couple of years ago I got one of

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<v Speaker 1>those butterbell devices. Yeah, it's like a little it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a cover. Yeah, it's like a little contraption.

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<v Speaker 1>You you put water in the bottom and then you

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<v Speaker 1>put butter in kind of the top. Nice you store

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<v Speaker 1>it so it keeps the butter nice and fresh and soft.

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<v Speaker 3>Was the water have to do? It?

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<v Speaker 1>Like helps seal it once it's in there creates a seal.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're having butter like every day and you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna actually go through, it's pretty good because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>go bad unless it's like sitting for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's it's nice to have really soft butter.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I don't put I don't have a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>bread with butter, only using butter when I'm cooking, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>put it from my eggs and it doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 1>But to circle back, I got another fifteen minutes on this.

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<v Speaker 1>All three of us put our eggs in the fridge.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know the specifics of it, but I know

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<v Speaker 4>there's a difference between our eggs and UK eggs for

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<v Speaker 4>some reason, like we can't have our eggs outside because

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<v Speaker 4>they'll go bad or something, or we can get I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, salmon l or something orreas some way that

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<v Speaker 4>they process their eggs in the UK that it's okay

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<v Speaker 4>to keep your eggs on the shelf. That's what I've heard.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what the specifics of it are though, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Just so happens that I do because my wife Mia

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<v Speaker 2>is an executive editor at Business in Cider overseeing health

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<v Speaker 2>in science. She's British, so she also knows about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow more importantly British.

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<v Speaker 3>British.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So the question of whether or not you need

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<v Speaker 5>to refrigerate your eggs really depends on where you are.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you're in the US, then yes, you do

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<v Speaker 5>have to refrigerate your eggs, and you don't have an option.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's because commercially sold eggs in the US are

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<v Speaker 5>washed and refrigerated before they're packaged, and that is to

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<v Speaker 5>get rid of any kind of bacteria or dirt that

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<v Speaker 5>could be dangerous, such as salmonella, which is a good thing,

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<v Speaker 5>but the problem with that process is that it removes

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<v Speaker 5>the protective outer layer called the cuticle. So when those

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<v Speaker 5>eggs are shipped and once they make their way to you,

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<v Speaker 5>you need to keep those eggs in the fridge because

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<v Speaker 5>they no longer have the protective layer that would defend

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<v Speaker 5>the egg from bacteria in your kitchen. Something like salmonella

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<v Speaker 5>thrives in warmth, so if your eggs are on the

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<v Speaker 5>kitchen counter, salmonella can permeate the shell and get into

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<v Speaker 5>the egg. If your egg is made in the US,

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<v Speaker 5>it's different if you're in Europe because in Europe they

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<v Speaker 5>don't wash and refrigerate the eggs in processing because their

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<v Speaker 5>goal is to retain the protective outer layer. In Europe

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<v Speaker 5>and in the UK, their priority is to package and

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<v Speaker 5>ship and consume the eggs locally, so you're having them

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<v Speaker 5>very fresh and they're retaining that protective outer layer, so

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<v Speaker 5>there isn't time or opportunity for salmonella to permeate the egg.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's why in Europe, the best by dates are

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<v Speaker 5>also shorter, so you usually on the package it will

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<v Speaker 5>say that you have less than a month to eat

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<v Speaker 5>the egg, whereas in the US, much bigger country, they're

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<v Speaker 5>transporting these eggs much further. That's the benefit of refrigerating them,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's why you usually have like six weeks eight

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<v Speaker 5>weeks to eat those eggs. So t LDR. If you're

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<v Speaker 5>in the US, you have no option. You need to

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<v Speaker 5>keep them in the fridge. In Europe, it's up to you.

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<v Speaker 5>You can keep them in the fridge to preserve freshness,

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<v Speaker 5>but there is perfectly safe outside the fridge as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That made sense in tracks with basically what you were saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize exactly what it was. I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>it was literally just what was on the outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I assumed it was something more like biological almost. Yeah, like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this is actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Much more simple.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's funny how many times washing something is actually

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<v Speaker 2>kind of bad in a way, like the chicken debate

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<v Speaker 2>that we've had that people are still mad at us about.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, washing the chicken itself, the raw chicken.

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<v Speaker 2>Spreads the bacteria around, and with the eggs, washing it

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<v Speaker 2>and refrigerating, it kind of removes like a natural protection

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<v Speaker 2>that it has.

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<v Speaker 1>And I believe the questionnaire lives in London but grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in the US. So that's that's why why there's

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<v Speaker 1>confusion and they're arguing with their flatmates, as they say,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was thinking about this, because I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I definitely have seen people keep their eggs,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, upstate or something, and they buy them

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<v Speaker 1>from the farm next door, and it's like, oh, well

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<v Speaker 1>they're not. Now it makes sense. It's like they're not

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<v Speaker 1>doing this industrialized process of washing them. You just go

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<v Speaker 1>pick it up from the farm and you can keep

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<v Speaker 1>it out. Because I knew it are people who have

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<v Speaker 1>chickens and that sort of thing. They're not keeping them

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<v Speaker 1>in the fridge and they're eating them that day.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably the chickens aren't putting their stuff in the fridge.

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<v Speaker 1>They're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>They're keeping them more.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody talks about many.

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<v Speaker 3>Fridge in there.

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<v Speaker 2>We stayed upstate once and there was like a chicken

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<v Speaker 2>coop in the backyard and the owners were like, feel

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<v Speaker 2>free to go back there and pick up any eggs

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<v Speaker 2>that's for cooking. So we did, and that well know,

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<v Speaker 2>actually we didn't. We were about to, and then we

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<v Speaker 2>got an email later being like, oh wait a second,

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<v Speaker 2>these are the fertilized ones.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like traumatized. If chicken, well, they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have been born.

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<v Speaker 3>It would have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, the person it was just it was

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<v Speaker 1>just a clumb themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, sure, I remember during COVID. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if this was like a national thing, but certainly in

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<v Speaker 2>our friend group, we just started eating a ship ton

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<v Speaker 2>of eggs because they're just easy to make, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't really cooking all that much until everything shut down.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was eating a ton of eggs. And then

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<v Speaker 2>there was like a lot of discourse on Twitter at

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<v Speaker 2>the time about how that's actually bad. You shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>eating that much, that many eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>I could be shooting up here, What do you want

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<v Speaker 1>from me? It's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Eggs, Yeah, shut the hell.

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<v Speaker 4>Up unless you're Unless you do it. It's like, don't

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<v Speaker 4>turn on me if you're eating ten eggs a day.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, just like anything, Yeah, what's next?

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<v Speaker 3>Next up?

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<v Speaker 1>We're staying on the expiration dates? Okay. Theme This is

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<v Speaker 1>from Steph I'm quoting now. That is in stest's voice. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know how you buy medicine tail and all prescriptions,

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<v Speaker 1>NIQ will whatever, and there's a date for when it expires.

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<v Speaker 1>Why does it expire? Like I get that cheese goes bad,

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<v Speaker 1>milk spoils, vegetables rot, But what is the actual reason

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<v Speaker 1>why pills or medicine go back. That's a great question

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<v Speaker 1>as this.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they go bad.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they just become less potent, right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my thought, And I always think about this when

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<v Speaker 1>I go visit my family. There's like the kid's bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>and you open the closet there and it's like kids.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, there's no children living there anymore, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like kids advil or kids time. Literally it's from

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<v Speaker 1>before I was born. It's from like even before my

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<v Speaker 1>brother was born. I think, like literally stuff from the

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<v Speaker 1>eighties that's in and it's probably if you open it up,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably just like dusts, yeah, or like not even.

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<v Speaker 1>But then there have been times when I'm looking for

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<v Speaker 1>something and it'll be more recent, but then I'll look

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like expire twenty sixteen. I'm like, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, it creeps up on you. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I agree with them, and it won't be

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<v Speaker 2>that it goes bad in the sense that if you

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<v Speaker 2>consume it you'll get sick. I've definitely run into this

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm a gas X connoisseur of sorts power us.

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<v Speaker 1>I love using it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's probably placebo, but it makes me feel better.

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<v Speaker 2>And they will have expiration dates and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'll take I'll have one after the expiration date

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll be like, oh, that one didn't do as

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<v Speaker 2>much as.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Yeah, how long do you think that's?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Typically? Is it like a year?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>It's really long because I'll be like fall, I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>just digging through trying to find something. Okay, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the one that I found was like over.

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<v Speaker 3>A year old. You take your normal dosage of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you didn't like double up one one caveat though,

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<v Speaker 1>gas X. I hope they're listening to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Why there's one of the boxes called maximum strength and

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<v Speaker 2>the stronger one is called Ultimate strength. Actually, we already

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<v Speaker 2>passed the maximum so I don't know what I'm doing here.

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<v Speaker 1>Like don Draper took up.

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<v Speaker 2>Maximum, so it could be possible that I did. I

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<v Speaker 2>took the same dosage was just two pills, but that it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was maximum and not ultimate. I don't know what anyway, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what do you go for in the store,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you were going right, I try to get now.

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<v Speaker 2>That I know ultimate is the strong one. I go

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<v Speaker 2>for Ultimate. Sometimes they don't have it. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>But also it's just a matter of the dosage, like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think two or like three maximums is two ultimates

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<v Speaker 2>or if you do the math. So anyway, all that

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<v Speaker 2>to say, I've dealt with the medicine expiration dates before,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would like to know the answer.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, this reminds me of I recently, for the

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<v Speaker 4>first time I ever saw Wolf of Wall Street Crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, and they have that scene what they're taking. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're all made in the nine eighties.

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<v Speaker 4>They stopped selling whateveryone and they take a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>them and they're like, Okay, it's not working, and take

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<v Speaker 4>more and then they find out that like, actually it

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<v Speaker 4>just has a longer release times.

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<v Speaker 1>They're older.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, they get it extra high. So I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 3>if that's the same with pills.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not in the issue too. I have this issue

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<v Speaker 4>with pills because I'm not a real pill popper, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>If I'm getting some pills, yeah, I gotta get kind

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<v Speaker 3>of fucked up to take. Like even like an avil.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't you can't swallow it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I can. I can swallow.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to change. You just don't want to.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like, I don't really get headaches, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>so if I get a little ache and pain, I'm just.

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<v Speaker 3>Taking care of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you don't get hangovers.

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<v Speaker 4>Because right, So it's like I'm taking I'm maybe taking

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<v Speaker 4>an avvil.

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<v Speaker 3>Twice a year of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, but I buy you know, when you buy it,

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<v Speaker 4>you got to buy a big one because it's the

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<v Speaker 4>best for money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm getting one hundred hundred pails.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like two years old now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm taking four a year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's lasting as long as they're catch up.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is this is a good question of like

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<v Speaker 4>sort of what is happened? I guess I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>with all things, it's like, yeah, it just loses its oppotents.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what would be happening now, like chemically, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it the case that twenty years after it actually

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<v Speaker 2>does literally nothing to you after you take it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, luckily, the good people at Harvard, oh, Harvard Medical School,

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<v Speaker 1>to be exact, Okay, those are the people you do

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk to. That that's a good clarification, have

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<v Speaker 1>looked into this. So in nineteen eighty five, the US

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<v Speaker 1>Air Force conducted a study where they gathered a stockpile

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<v Speaker 1>of medications because they you know, countries do have those

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<v Speaker 1>stockpiles for certain things, you know, for emergencies or obviously

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<v Speaker 1>for military et cetera. So they gathered a stockpile of

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<v Speaker 1>medications worth more than a billion dollars that were close

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<v Speaker 1>to or pass their expiration dates. They didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>just throw them away, so they did studies. They tested

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<v Speaker 1>to see if they're still safe and effective. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the US Food and Drug Administration, the FDA, in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>lets some call them. And the verdict, according to Harvard Retelling,

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<v Speaker 1>this most medications were still good nearly three years past

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<v Speaker 1>their expression. That's nuts. But there are a few caveats

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<v Speaker 1>to keep in mind, they say. So one, those tests

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<v Speaker 1>that we're referring to were from the mid eighties and

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<v Speaker 1>early nineties, so newer medications may not have been tested yet.

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<v Speaker 1>In this way. Only about one hundred types of drugs

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<v Speaker 1>were tested, so and some of them were like things

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<v Speaker 1>that people who are not in the military probably wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be using so much like you know, antidotes for chemical

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<v Speaker 1>poisoning or antibiotics from malaria. And some drugs did fail

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<v Speaker 1>the stability test. So liquid antibiotics, Yeah, antibiotics aspirin, nitroglycerin,

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<v Speaker 1>and insulin have found signs of physical decay, so not

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<v Speaker 1>best to use them past the expiration dates. Physical decay. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like the pills cracked. Yeah, and then yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>epipends also held up poorly past the expiration dates. This

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem harmful though, it's probably just, like you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>not as effective.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So one, it kind of depends how serious the medication

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<v Speaker 1>is or the what you're trying to fix. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can probably take an allergy medication a month past

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<v Speaker 1>the expiration date, but a heart rhythm medication is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be riskier. Yes, Yeah, so you want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that's gonna help you.

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<v Speaker 2>So pretty much like the over the counter stuff that's

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna be life or death, Yes, spring gas X

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Something like that. Yeah, it might not do the trick

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<v Speaker 1>that you needed to do, but it's not gonna hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>This also says that generally they keep the expiration dates

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<v Speaker 1>on the more conservative side exactly for this reason, which

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense and I agree with as a practice. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And drug makers say that extensive testing for drug stability

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<v Speaker 1>over prolonged periods of times would be ideal, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>too expensive. And yeah. Also in this study, the military

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<v Speaker 1>study found that by keeping these expired medicines is saved

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<v Speaker 1>about two hundred and sixty million dollars from the one billion,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's pretty significant. Yeah, it showed that there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of useful There are a lot of medicine

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<v Speaker 1>that was still useful. So basically, expiration dates in the US,

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<v Speaker 1>after a law in nineteen seventy nine, drug manufacturers have

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<v Speaker 1>to stamp an expiration date on their products. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>like where they can guarantee full potency and safety. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily means it's gonna not work after that, which

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. It's just like a regulation. So it's true

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<v Speaker 1>that effectiveness of a drug may decrease over time, but

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<v Speaker 1>much of the original potency still remains even the decade

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<v Speaker 1>after the expiration date. Placing a medication in a cool place,

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<v Speaker 1>such as a refrigerator, will help the drug remain potent

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<v Speaker 1>for many years. That's a good question, right from the

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<v Speaker 1>previous question. I also put my dequill in stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>the fridge, do you guys? No, keep it outside in

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<v Speaker 1>the closet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm really only getting that when I have Once again,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really take that stuff, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I always just have it in the fridge.

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<v Speaker 2>Not for any real reason, but that's all you taking.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean only when I get sick, but like it

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<v Speaker 2>lasts for during that period.

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<v Speaker 3>In the fridge.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, No, I don't keep it in the fridge.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it looks like babies.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually they have one for babies and it says four babies.

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<v Speaker 2>I got the liquid one for Yeah. Yeah, prefer when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like out, Like back when we used to work

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<v Speaker 2>in an office every day, I would bring pills with me.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm at home, I'm like a little something to

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<v Speaker 2>sip on is nice. All right, After the break, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna answer some questions about sneezing behaviors, the twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>hour day, and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches or We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be right.

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<v Speaker 1>Back all right, next up? Hi, Have y'all ever argued

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<v Speaker 1>about why some people sneeze loudly? Is it a learned behavior,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe to mimic a parent or get attention or clear

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<v Speaker 1>nasal passages more comfortably or effectively. Or is it biological

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<v Speaker 1>maybe based on lung size or muscular strength or age.

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<v Speaker 1>Can a louder soft sneeze to become softer loud, respectively?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is that dynamic range of sneezes actually small and

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<v Speaker 1>its variations in hearing sensitivity that we should be arguing over.

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<v Speaker 1>Please get to the bottom of this. My doctor has

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<v Speaker 1>stopped answering my question.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I just say, real quick, I love our listeners

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<v Speaker 2>because we get the funniest fucking questions I've ever heard

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<v Speaker 2>of the very behavioral.

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<v Speaker 1>Science of sneeze loudness. So well, first of all, what

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<v Speaker 1>what how would you all to describe your individual sneeze styles.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty controlled, I think, Yeah, I try to keep

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<v Speaker 1>it on the covers, yeah, like and that same at home. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I'm sure we all have you know,

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<v Speaker 2>are the classic the dad loud home, shaking the frames

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<v Speaker 2>on the wall kind of sneeze? So my dad one

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<v Speaker 2>of the loudest sneezers around the house.

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<v Speaker 4>My dad had really bad allergies too, and his sneeze

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<v Speaker 4>was so like the cat would run a wind up.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know, and then yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and then there's usually a couple in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>That's my other question, and then there's yeah afterwards it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My follow up bonus question is why the sneeze is

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<v Speaker 1>coming multiple It's because there's some people who always three.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a loud sneeze. It will be like always

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<v Speaker 1>doing three or more in a string. I'll have maybe

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<v Speaker 1>one or two I do. I do pretty loud ones.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say, Okay, I can control it here, yeah yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but if I'm home, yeah, letting it.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say. When I do let a loud one off,

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<v Speaker 3>it feels good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like I'm not holding back, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>go for real.

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<v Speaker 3>Because sometimes you try to get a low yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you got it's like it's like plug but myself up.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye, try to keep yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's not it doesn't it's not satisfying. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like when you when you try to stifle a cough. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like the worst feeling in the world. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to cough in the movies or something, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>let it go, but then it's still there. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to go to the right Yeah, try to or

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll try like, okay, maybe I'll choose choose some

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<v Speaker 1>gum or something like something I was happening here. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I can wait.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like waiting for the loud scene of the movie

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<v Speaker 2>to come, literally, like, okay, there's a car crash coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's lessen that.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a great question because you know, if it

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<v Speaker 2>were behavioral, you would think that you would have a

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<v Speaker 2>similar sneak to your parents. But that's not the case

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<v Speaker 2>for me.

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<v Speaker 4>No, Well, it's almost it's almost behavioral on the opposite

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<v Speaker 4>way that you witness you know that women.

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<v Speaker 1>Can do to a fan.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you've seen the loud sneeze and now you don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to repeat that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, traumas the cycle ends here. Yeah, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>dear kid, is gonna be like I hate how my

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<v Speaker 1>dad always Yeah, quite a little. It's like a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of an edible thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, watch this.

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<v Speaker 1>Luckily for us our friends at Popular Science magazine, someone

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<v Speaker 1>I've answered this.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>They did separate articles for both of those questions. So

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<v Speaker 1>why do people sneeze aloud? And the multiples? I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really fascinated by the multiples. I know someone who

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<v Speaker 2>always goes too, and that's it the next time.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is from doctor Takashima from the Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Oto Laryngology. Wow, had a neck and surgery at Houston

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<v Speaker 1>Methodist Academic Institute. This is a quote from Popular Science. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>not on him, insider knows, is a tight mesh of

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<v Speaker 1>epithelial cells, tiny hairs, and thick mucus. These elements quotes

0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:15.440
<v Speaker 1>trap particulates so that the lungs can be protected. When

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:17.960
<v Speaker 1>those build up, they need to be flushed out. So

0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:20.600
<v Speaker 1>tiny hairs, that makes sense, tiny hair is mucus whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they don't want you. They don't want that stuff

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<v Speaker 3>in the lungs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and it needs to be flushed out. In your

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<v Speaker 1>body knows this. It gets triggered somehow, like enough piles

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<v Speaker 1>up so that really I do think there was a scene.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Bill Murray sneezes. Yes, yes, everyone flies out,

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<v Speaker 1>hit all the pressure valves.

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<v Speaker 3>They're about to blow this scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Great movie, yeah, which you watched that the key to

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<v Speaker 1>sneezing volume lies in the structure of our respiratory system.

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<v Speaker 1>The first step of the sneeze reflex involves deep inhalation.

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<v Speaker 1>You need that air to be able to expel everything out.

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<v Speaker 1>While air is sucked into our lungs, our vocal cords

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<v Speaker 1>closed tightly. Once enough pressure has built up in our lungs,

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 1>all the air is expelled. It's that gush of air

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<v Speaker 1>that's pushing through the vocal cords that creates the sound

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<v Speaker 1>of the sneeze The shape and floppiness of our vocal

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<v Speaker 1>cords and other soft tissue at the back of the

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<v Speaker 1>throat influence whether or not we have a quiet or

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:25.200
<v Speaker 1>booming sneeze. Lung volume also determines how much air enters

0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 1>and leaves our chests during a sneeze, meaning no single

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:34.720
<v Speaker 1>physical measurement will predict sneeze volume, So vocal cords, other tissue,

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<v Speaker 1>lung volume. Some people with big lung volumes have very

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<v Speaker 1>patigue sneezes HM, so this article also has how to

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<v Speaker 1>sneez quietly. Takashima points out that in Japan there's a

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<v Speaker 1>heavy cultural emphasis on not inconveniencing others and people manage

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<v Speaker 1>to suppress their sneezes. So this is what the question

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<v Speaker 1>asker was asking too about. Is that, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a cultural or learned behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So the key here is to minimize the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>resonant energy flowing through your oral cavity closing your mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>This will produce the volume of your sneeze.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't feel as good though.

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<v Speaker 1>No hold on, look at the medical literature suggests that

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<v Speaker 1>sneeze suppression may be a surprisingly bad idea. Oh for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>You ever try to hold in your whole body of things,

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 4>your eyes are gonna You're gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Your eyes blood, my eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>Head out of my head.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to be if you want to sneeze.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 4>If anybody sneezing as hard as they can into their elbow, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna be that loud.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye let me practice like that was That was bad?

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<v Speaker 1>That's not out loud. I don't know if I've been

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<v Speaker 1>peeking on that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, like you're gonna, I'm gonna hear it if

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<v Speaker 4>you're trying to sneeze in a way, if you don't

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<v Speaker 4>know you're sneezing.

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<v Speaker 3>Not gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not. You're not really you know, the cat's not

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna run it. Yeah, no, exactly, or the cat needs

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 1>a tough enough yeah, frankly, all right, So that answers

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<v Speaker 1>the main basically the bonus about the multiples, Why does

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:14.200
<v Speaker 1>that happen? Because that's stranger, that's weird. You can't get

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>it out in one go. So it has to do

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:17.920
<v Speaker 1>with the power behind your noses blows.

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<v Speaker 3>If you got a weak ass nose, you got to

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<v Speaker 3>do more.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to work that out. It's funny they talk

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 1>to all different people for this article. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>still popular science, yep. So basically, the if the irtint

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<v Speaker 1>is still lingering after a sneeze, your nose is going

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<v Speaker 1>to give it another go. So typically a second sneeze

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<v Speaker 1>means that your first knees didn't do its job.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>As for the mega sneezer, the person who always seems

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<v Speaker 1>to sneeze fifteen times in a row, it may mean

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>his or her sneezes just don't pack the same punch's ears.

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<v Speaker 1>Depending on how her nerves are hardwired, it may mean

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<v Speaker 1>her sneezes are not as forceful to expel whatever is

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<v Speaker 1>irritating her. If that's the case. Try to rub your

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>nose or plug your nose. That way you can manually

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<v Speaker 1>remove the allergen.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you do some work help it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, a foreign irritant may not be triggering your

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 1>sneeze at all. For about eighteen to twenty percent of

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 1>the population, staring at bright lights can cause uncontrollable sneezing.

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:16.520
<v Speaker 1>What the It's a genetic condition called a photic sneeze

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 1>reflects phot I see, and its mechanisms aren't very well understood.

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Some researchers believe that rapid pupil constriction may trigger the

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:28.360
<v Speaker 1>nerves related to sneezing, but no one knows for sure. Oh,

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>because your eyes do that when you're allergic to something.

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 1>So if you seem to be sneezing over and over

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>while enjoying the great outdoors, maybe avert your gaze from

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 1>the sun for a little while. That's a cliffhanger to

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.120
<v Speaker 1>end on eighteen to twenty percent of the I mean

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:43.919
<v Speaker 1>almost someone in this room, which one of us I

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<v Speaker 1>start lights all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't really travel right now.

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 3>They gotta start putting some of those warnings.

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<v Speaker 1>It's obviously in my head now, but I feel a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more tensional. Yeah, I'm not gonna sneeze, but

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<v Speaker 1>I see it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a division.

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<v Speaker 2>Next time I have to sneeze, I'm going to try

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<v Speaker 2>to make it as loud as possible. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever really tried to be try to have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Loud primal scream. Yeah, it might be. It might feel good.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, what's what's next? This is a real kind

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<v Speaker 1>of bomb rip, sort of one from Blake. Why are

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<v Speaker 1>there twenty four hours in a day?

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<v Speaker 3>That's all he said?

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<v Speaker 1>Any ideas.

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just like I guess the basic necessity of

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 2>like measuring, I don't know why they landed on twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four You would think it'd be something shorter.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I might just say there's twelve hours, but the

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<v Speaker 4>hours or two hours long or so?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah maybe yeah, that's where, Yeah, I would do a

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 2>longer segment.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think I'm just talking shit? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know obviously the twenty four hours.

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>You know what a day is? Yes, is a day,

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 1>but that's one day?

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 3>But why what is a day is when the sun

0:28:52.720 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 3>goes around you know? And yeah, because the summer, Yeah,

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 3>and we're flat we're flat.

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, flat earth. So as soon as the sun the sun.

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then at night it's underneath.

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Us, it's under its over China. The sun went to sleep.

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 1>It's gone. Now it's gone the man. Yeah, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>one cycle.

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 3>Now it's one rotation.

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Seriously, ye serious, guys, let's not cho.

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, flatter enough.

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>So one rotation of the earth.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, one rotation of the earth. The sun is not rotating.

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 4>We're evolving around. That's a year. It's one revolution around

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 4>the sun. So one day is one revolution of there.

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<v Speaker 1>So we all agree on that. Yeah, now how do

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<v Speaker 1>you break that up?

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<v Speaker 3>That's the best idea. That's where we get into. Yeah,

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 3>the specifics here, Yeah.

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's it's great. It may it makes me

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 1>think it's probably it's religious.

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 3>Why sixty minutes right, like.

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>The twelve hours?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>It feels like why does that number come from somewhere?

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Great question. Well, luckily our friends at ABC Science I

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>believe this is the Australian Broadcasting Company.

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, they're real different ABC.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>My guess is twenty four or twenty four or twelve

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 2>like has to do with some kind of religious thing,

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 2>some ancient religious thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see what ABC science. That's just say it always

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>goes back to them. What are you about to say

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 1>it's always them? Is from doctor Nick Lom, Consultant curator

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>of astronomy from the Sydney Observatory. All right, I trust

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>trust observatories. Our twenty four hour day comes from the

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>ancient Egyptians who died them, who divided daytime into ten hours.

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>They measured with devices such as shadow clocks. Yeah, and

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>added the twilight hour at the beginning and another one

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day time. Oh so that

0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>makes They started with ten and then kind of added

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>on an hour an hour, so it's filling for kind

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 1>of nighttime. Wow. And then because ten is a natural number, Yeah,

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>but it just feels like, Yeah, nighttime was divided into

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>twelve hours based on observations of stars. So there's so

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.960
<v Speaker 1>there we have ten hours during the day, yeah, plus

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>two more twelve for night preor night when you're looking

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>at the stars. Egyptians had a system of thirty six

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>star groups called decans d E C A N S

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe dickcans deacons deacons chosen so that on any night,

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 1>one decan rose forty minutes after the previous one. Wow,

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 1>these guys were nuts.

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 3>Tables.

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess they didn't have anything else to do. Tables

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>were produced to help people to determine the Yeah, it's

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>like oversee some pyramids being built, or figure.

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Out the time.

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 4>What I would be doing if if China wasn't keeping

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 4>me on TikTok, you'd.

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Be building, You'd be coming up with a whole new wisdom.

0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 1>You count time.

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<v Speaker 3>For the one rat.

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 4>Every time it's rat passes, that's about four hours.

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I liked it. Tables were produced to help people to

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>determine time at night by observing them. Amazingly, such tables

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 1>have been found inside the lids of coffins, presumably so

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 1>that the dead could also tell the time. Wow, that's nice,

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 1>all right, nice, and then put that in the coffin.

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>In the Egyptian system, the length of the daytime and

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>nighttime hours. I don't know what time it is, you did.

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>The length of the daytime and nighttime hours were unequal

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>and varied with the seasons. Oh so it kind of

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>adjusted base on everything. Yes, of course, so in summer

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 1>daytime hours were longer than nighttime hours. Well, in the

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 1>winter it was flipped ancient Babylonians broke everything up into

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>sixty for hours and minutes. They just like the base

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>number sixty. It seems like, so subdivision of hours and

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>then sixty minutes per hour. So I kind of then

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 1>just kind of calibrating to what they are from the

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Egyptian those hours further basically, which is probably when it

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 1>got a little bit more standardized.

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 2>That's now, see, we got we have twelve hours, that's

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 2>what I said. Sixty minutes was why isn't it like

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 2>one hundred minutes?

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<v Speaker 1>So we got three hundred and sixty degrees in a

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>circle from the Babylonians. Oh wow, they just liked sixty.

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Babylonians were interested in three sixty because that was their

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 1>estimate for the number of days in a year.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh damn.

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:40.959
<v Speaker 4>Then they had GYBT to be asking either to get

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 4>it wrong.

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you got GPT, it'd be like, yeah, this

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 1>is three hundred sixty days, close enough, thirty six days.

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 2>That's impressive that you already knew that. But was it

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 2>the case that the Egyptians kind of came up with

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 2>the framework of time. Yeah, it seems like so before

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<v Speaker 2>that they were just I mean, I'm sure there were

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<v Speaker 2>little ways to measure here and there, but they were

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<v Speaker 2>mostly just viobally. Yeah, I think generally it was that

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<v Speaker 2>and then slowly kind of this where okay, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure once there's a international order, there's more consensus

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, we have to have the same time

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<v Speaker 2>if you're traveling this way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, all right, but I think that about answers it well.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes it makes sense that like, all right, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to count the hours in a day, like before

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the sun goes away. Yeah, and back then you're like, okay,

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I have ten fingers. That's how we're going to count this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But then they just started amending it from me, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they're like, all right, well we need to figure

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<v Speaker 1>this out because the stars are doing this. So we

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<v Speaker 1>got two extra hours, so twelve and twelve all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I like amazing stuff. But one of my favorite concision too.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to watch all those Ancient Aliens shows on

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<v Speaker 2>History or whatever, and the the big takeaway at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of every episode is like, how did the Egyptians

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<v Speaker 2>know that the earth was blue? Like they have some

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<v Speaker 2>of these higher glyphs, oh, and they're like painted. It's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of has nothing to do with time. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't give just because it's like, look, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>big as it's a shame that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we don't really give them their flowers.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we don't. Aliens, Yeah, we can't.

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<v Speaker 4>They can't possibly be smart then idiots running around the

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<v Speaker 4>build it couldn't do anything, have any ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if they were so smart back then it must

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<v Speaker 2>mean that we're not that smart. And that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like, actually they have.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just it's it's also just like Egypt isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that powerful of the nation now, so I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>there's international push to do it, whereas if this was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if this happened in the United States and

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>you never forget we need that you know other places too.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, just put some respect justice for Egypt.

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<v Speaker 2>Even the Mayans they got incredible like the astronomy innovations.

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<v Speaker 3>We just can't.

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 1>But we just can't be like, wow, they were so smart.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to say some Aliens stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you know what we who we are going to

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<v Speaker 2>get flower too. The Egyptians for coming up with the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four hour clock. Thank you, Thank you Egyptians.

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<v Speaker 1>All rights as all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Our final question comes from Kaylee.

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<v Speaker 6>Hi, Manny Noah Devin as the No Such Thing Team.

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<v Speaker 6>My name is Kaylee, and my boyfriend was at a

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<v Speaker 6>bar and the bartender suggested that he do a peanut

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<v Speaker 6>butter tequila shot, and the suggested chaser was some sort

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 6>of like fruity selter thing. He doesn't remember the exact flavor,

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<v Speaker 6>but he then begins to complain to some friends that

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<v Speaker 6>the chaser was not great flavored, because then it would

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<v Speaker 6>have been like a peanut butter and jelly shot and chaser.

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<v Speaker 6>He den steeds to get in an argument with a stranger,

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<v Speaker 6>a woman about what is the proper flavor of jelly

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<v Speaker 6>to use in a peanut butter and jelly She believed

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<v Speaker 6>it with strawberry, and he believes it's great. So we

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<v Speaker 6>want to know your opinion. What is the default jelly

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<v Speaker 6>to put on a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Is

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<v Speaker 6>it grape, is it strawberry? Or is it like a

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<v Speaker 6>third flavor? Thank you so much for answering my question.

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<v Speaker 6>Dig Sana the trow have a good one.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>Kayley is here. Yeah, I guess first, let's answer it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go around.

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<v Speaker 2>Cake would be that I prefer the jelly to be strawberry.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also acknowledge that grape is the traditional peanut

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<v Speaker 2>butter and jet.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I probably prefer grape still most cases. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can have your own preference for what

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 1>jelly you want. But yeah, the default is great, it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Devin.

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<v Speaker 4>See this is tough for me, hm, because I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>a peanut butter and jelly guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just a peanut butter guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So I didn't really have peanut butter and jelly almost ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Preconception of this. You're a good person to think back

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<v Speaker 1>to your cartoon.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let me say this, peanut butter and jelly was

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<v Speaker 4>consumed in my home, all right, so there be around it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I've been. I'm trying to sure. I'm now

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 3>trying to transport myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Take yourself back back to my child, opening your child.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at the side.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what therapies look.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is what you do.

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<v Speaker 4>They tell you close your eyes, and I'm seeing my

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:38.800
<v Speaker 4>mom make a peanut butter.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, don't put Jolie on the Would you just

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<v Speaker 1>have peanut butter, just peanut butter?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Harry, I guess if your peanut butter is more organic.

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the process probably, but I can't even open your mouth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so in my mind it was a grape jelly. It

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<v Speaker 4>was a more purple welch is Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>I just imagine, like you were saying, Noah in a cartoon,

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<v Speaker 2>the grape color. Remember the thing the otters that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there were names were, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go. There isn't one of them purple or something.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually don't I don't remember what color. I don't

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:29.520
<v Speaker 3>see color, so I don't know what color they were. Oh, yeah,

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 3>I remember that show. That was a good show.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that their names on Disney.

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<v Speaker 3>It was p B Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I'm curious because it seemed to be such

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<v Speaker 2>a debate at that bar from the question or at

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<v Speaker 2>least that like, where does this idea that strawberry is

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<v Speaker 2>the default?

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<v Speaker 1>From? My guess is they grew up and that was

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<v Speaker 1>just what their parents made for them. Had to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Were these people living under a rock? Yeah, we'll do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Look up who invented the PBJ beer. National Peanut Board

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<v Speaker 1>has a article about who invented the PB and J

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<v Speaker 1>Okay sandwich. In the case of the Quintessential American PBNJ sandwich.

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<v Speaker 1>The most important person in this part of the story

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<v Speaker 1>is a man named Paul Welch. We know his work.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen seventeen, Welch secured patent for puring grapes and

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<v Speaker 1>turning them into jelly. He developed and advertised grape a

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<v Speaker 1>laid rhymes with mar armalade, marmalade, marmala from concord grapes.

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<v Speaker 1>It was popular with the troops in World War One,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was popular to spread grape a laid on

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<v Speaker 1>bread when the soldiers came home after the war. Wow,

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>finally there's peanut butter. We know doctor George Washington Carver invented.

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<v Speaker 3>That black Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. As grape a laid and pre sliced

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<v Speaker 1>bread became popular, another happened with peanut butter. Commercial brands

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<v Speaker 1>found a way to create creamy or peanut butter that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't stick to the roof of the mouth so easily.

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<v Speaker 1>During the Great Depression of the nineteen thirties, families discovered

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<v Speaker 1>peanut butter provided a satisfying, high protein, less expensive meal. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>World War Two is the major event that took peanut

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<v Speaker 1>butter and jelly sandwiches over the top sandwich on the

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:25.359
<v Speaker 1>US military ration menus in World War Two. Peanut butter

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:28.240
<v Speaker 1>was a high protein, shelf stable ingredient and easily portable

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 1>on long marches. Grape blaide had already accompanied soldiers in

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 1>the First World War and added the sweetness of the sandwich.

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Pre sliced bread was so easy to use. So the

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 1>natural inclination was to combine these three things. And PBNJ

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<v Speaker 1>was part of the American soldier's life.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And then those guys came home from the war, kids

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<v Speaker 1>loved it, parents loved it, and the rest is history.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean, i'd have to say, the default then,

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<v Speaker 1>is the grape elaide or grape jelly, Yeah, variants, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think center.

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<v Speaker 2>Dear listener, if you ever hear someone saying strawberry is

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<v Speaker 2>the default, you have to tell them that there's absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>zero evidence to back that up.

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:07.319
<v Speaker 1>They're lying.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I like it more than greate for my PB

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<v Speaker 2>and JS, or if I'm just having like a piece

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 2>of toast. But I would never say that that that

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<v Speaker 2>was the traditional original.

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<v Speaker 1>Recipe, like like raspberry preserves. Oh you like preserves? I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't get to eat in the

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 1>weeds like that. But I like the little bone Mama.

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<v Speaker 4>As a sort of final word on this, I just

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<v Speaker 4>opened up Wikipedia. I command aft Strawberry zero zero, get

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<v Speaker 4>a few hits, Sarah, they are consider this.

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<v Speaker 1>One's not even mentioned once on the It doesn't even

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<v Speaker 1>have a line like some people like this, not even.

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<v Speaker 3>Not even a hint of there's another kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of scary nothing in the pop culture reference a section

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<v Speaker 2>of strawberry Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it doesn't even exist.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, that settles it.

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<v Speaker 2>Final word, Thanks for listening to No Such Thing, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a production of Kaleidoscope Content. Our executive producers are

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<v Speaker 2>Kate Osborne and mangesh Hati Cador. The show was created

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:23.320
<v Speaker 2>by Manny Fidel, Noah Friedman, and Devin Joseph. The theme

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<v Speaker 2>and credit songs are by me Manny. This episode was

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