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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature future production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, the mystery

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Speaker 1: of bat Boy. Is the half bat half human really real? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. We're not talking about bat Boy, but

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Speaker 1: we are talking about animals who are so utterly unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: They seem like hoaxes, living tampons that walk the earth,

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Speaker 1: purple blobs who walk under the earth, a new animal superhero,

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Speaker 1: and the weird sexcapades of corny bees. Discover this and

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Speaker 1: more as we answer the angel question, is that a

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Speaker 1: snorke will coming out of your butter? You just happy

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Speaker 1: to see me. Joining me today is shark lover and

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Speaker 1: host of Kicking and Screaming podcast, Vanessa Guerrero. Am I

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Speaker 1: love sharks. You're just telling me about how you have

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Speaker 1: an upcoming cinema feature of sharks that you made when

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Speaker 1: you were twelve years old. I think it was twelve,

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Speaker 1: but it might have been a little bit younger now

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Speaker 1: that I think about it, I might have been liked

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Speaker 1: ten um. When I was a child, I didn't like

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Speaker 1: writing assigned essays at all, But I did have a

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Speaker 1: video camera and I turned in an essay which was

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Speaker 1: basically just my mom filming me at an aquarium, uh,

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Speaker 1: but also me filming a documentary called air Jaws with

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Speaker 1: my own camera and geting at my classmates about how

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Speaker 1: they don't get sharks like I do, which I mean

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Speaker 1: makes I think of Werner Herzog started out about ten

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Speaker 1: years old too, So yeah, so me her Zog both

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Speaker 1: deeply alienating to our peers at ten uh with our

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Speaker 1: intensity and uh, I'm trying to find a way to

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Speaker 1: digitize it and put it out some there. Because watching

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Speaker 1: it at the age that I am now, immediately I

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Speaker 1: was like, all right, I immediately get why. Maybe I

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Speaker 1: was like a little bit hard to understand at the time,

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Speaker 1: but also like, I'm glad that I've held that same

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Speaker 1: affection for sharks. I don't know, I think you were

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Speaker 1: ahead of your time in in the sort of pro

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Speaker 1: shark movement, the shark acceptance movement. Shark Week came that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're about the same age, and I don't

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Speaker 1: remember Shark Week coming until like I was a little older.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like the the rebranding of Sharks giving

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Speaker 1: scared of sharks because of jaws. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: you were a true uh shark visionary, thank you. My

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Speaker 1: mother didn't think so. When I found a I can't

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Speaker 1: remember it was a lipstick or perfume, but it had

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Speaker 1: like an an ingredient that I read somewhere that was

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Speaker 1: originally derived from sharks. It hadn't been anymore, but I

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Speaker 1: just like, I have to flush it. Uh. She wasn't

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Speaker 1: a real real shark activist, like this has the blood

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Speaker 1: of sharks on it. Oh dare you? Mom? This this

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Speaker 1: shark crime. You go go to the grocery store, all

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Speaker 1: those little shark remember those shark gummies? The gummies like

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Speaker 1: shape like sharks, and you're just throwing them on the

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Speaker 1: ground like this is this advocates violence against sharks. It

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Speaker 1: means we eat them now. I actually saw a friend

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Speaker 1: make a cocktail using the shark gummies in it. Now,

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Speaker 1: and I've never felt like a glass of something was

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Speaker 1: more for me. It was just it was a shark

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Speaker 1: based cocktail. Gummy shark mm hmm. I what what was

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Speaker 1: the what did what bass was it with it? I

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Speaker 1: think the Lucarus house so it was like an ocean.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. That's nice. Yeah. I think it was

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Speaker 1: like she called it drink bluesy. Okay, yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 1: I like that. That's a good one. So today we

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Speaker 1: are actually talking about some animal stories that sounds like

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Speaker 1: viral video on Twitter that shows what looks like tampons

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Speaker 1: coming alive and crawling around in a public restroom. And

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Speaker 1: looking for a human host. It's some kind of cross

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Speaker 1: it in the show notes. I guess a little bit

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Speaker 1: clicked it. I clicked it, And they're so bad. Like

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Speaker 1: in general, anything that has like that kind of crawl

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Speaker 1: like weird candy uo for people that men straight. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they look like an alien parasite that is mimicking the

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Speaker 1: from some kind of horror movie. But yeah, the the

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Speaker 1: undulating movement is also disconcerting. They actually have little legs

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Speaker 1: like a caterpillar, and they moved by sort of contracting

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Speaker 1: inching around like the crutation slither right, Oh yeah, oh

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Speaker 1: god slither that movie. This actually reminds me of a

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Speaker 1: worm or caterpillar that I've spent my entire life trying

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Speaker 1: like this just like green. It just looks like a

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Speaker 1: green caterpillar. And my little brother did the young boy thing,

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Speaker 1: which is okay, with a sticky and he poked it

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Speaker 1: stripe on the other end just started poking out slowly

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Speaker 1: what was that caterpillar? What is a creature that like

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Speaker 1: excretes a red horn? That's interesting. I don't know off

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Speaker 1: swallow tail caterpillars that have red horn protrusions. I don't

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Speaker 1: know of them like necessarily being telescoping. There's also a

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Speaker 1: of like, oh, man, appreciate the evolutionary cleverness of them.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think, um, there is something like this

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Speaker 1: So that's how my doom brain works. Where where where

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Speaker 1: Like I'd be like, because our baths weren't indoor, they

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Speaker 1: Uh So I'd be like taking a bath and be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: That's going to take over our bodies. Uh yeah, holy

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Speaker 1: found in swallow tail butterfly larva. We got it, We

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Speaker 1: did I like help you move past like your childhood

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Speaker 1: issues of like man, this like this caterpillar. It was

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Speaker 1: I was just like, was there a very specific like

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Speaker 1: was thinking. I was thinking of like a horsehair worm

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Speaker 1: or or a nema toad, which can these parasites that

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Speaker 1: the defensive organ of the swallowtail caterpillars. So yes, we

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Speaker 1: that mystery, Wow, it gets even grosser. So these are

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Speaker 1: real animals, these things that look like crawling, wiggling tampons

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Speaker 1: with little feet, and they are called rat tailed maggots,

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Speaker 1: I mean they gross me out less than a regular maggot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: back from the break, isn't like cute, like poppy cute.

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00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: But if you squint and think about it really hard,

423
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: maybe it's cute. Maybe I don't know. Anyways, we're going

424
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: to take a quick break and we will be right

425
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: back with our next animal. That looks like a hoax.

426
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: But guess what it's not. It's real. I know what

427
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: you're thinking, Katie. Is there another nightmarish larvae I should

428
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: know about? Glad Yes, Hercules beat A larvae are some

429
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: of the biggest grubs you'll find on the planet. They

430
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: can grow to be up to five inches or eleven

431
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: centimeters and are as thick as a sausage. These grubs

432
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: have a lot to live up to because their adult form,

433
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: the hercules be Dle of Central American rainforests, is the

434
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: largest flying insect in the world and sports an intimidating

435
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: battle horn. When we return, we're going to talk about

436
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: a purple blob that has a lovely personality. While not

437
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: a hoax. The blobfish that lumpy pink fish with a

438
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: big ziggil nose and perpetual frown, gets an unfair wrap.

439
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: It's particularly lumpy appearance is due to it being transported

440
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: from the high pressure depths of the sea to the surface,

441
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: where the difference in pressure causes it to kind of explode.

442
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: Just goes to show you you can't believe everything you

443
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: see on fish Degram. But there is a terrestrial blob

444
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: creature who really is as lumpy and blobbly as it

445
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: appears in photos. Vanessa, if I told you there is

446
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: a species of big purple blobs who live underground, who

447
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: have pig noses, tiny little weener heads, and create many

448
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: earthquakes in order to mate, what would you say to that,

449
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: I'd say, sign me up. I love it. I love

450
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: that response. I love a rumbling animal. Consider yourself subscribed.

451
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: Because these guys exist, and they are called purple frogs. Now,

452
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: I want you to take whatever image you have of

453
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: a purple frog and delete it, because I guarantee you

454
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: if you've never seen an actual purple frog, and you

455
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: have some image of like a little like kermit frog

456
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: who just happens to be purple like in your head,

457
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: it's wrong. Delete that image and let me build it

458
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: anew for you by painting a mental picture for you.

459
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: So imagine like a human liver that's like kind of chunky,

460
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: and then now give it stubby little legs, a tiny

461
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: winky head with like a little fleshy beak that ends

462
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: in sort of a pig nosed type thing, and then

463
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: its shoulders are so like big and floppy. It kind

464
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: of looks like it's got butt cheeks on its back,

465
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: and it's a slightly kind of purple ish move color,

466
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: and it's pretty slimy. See. Initially, when I used to

467
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: purple frog, I was thinking like poison dart frog, because like,

468
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: those guys are so vivid that it's very easy to

469
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: imagine that being literally any color. But I like, whatever

470
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: this little dude is. I think I've liked every frog

471
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: or toad I've ever seen, minus the one that's made

472
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: of nightmares. Um, I have triple phobia, So whatever the one,

473
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that one, the one that gives birth out

474
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: of its back. I'm trying to remember they were called,

475
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: but I saw them on a nature show in it

476
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 1: with my dad and I was a kid, and that's

477
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: how I learned a triple phobia, because I watched them

478
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: hatch and then I just barfed on my dad's lap,

479
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: which is about the same response that I have to

480
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: like lotus pods or just anything that looks similarly but

481
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: like other than those guys. I like literally every uh

482
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I saw a cookie frog,

483
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: which is the frog of Puerto Rico because they make

484
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: the little cookie sounds. They're very loud, and they're very cute.

485
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: And my god, do Puerto Rican people love those guys

486
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: like a widowing cute. They're so tiny and their call

487
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: is beyond cute because it literally sounds like they're saying

488
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: the word cookie um, and they're adorable. Like you'll you'll

489
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: hear like lyrics from different Puerto Rican artists being like

490
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: all right, but give it up for the cookies though,

491
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: and like what frog is shouted out in a bunch

492
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: of songs. They're so cute too, with their sound pouch

493
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 1: like inflated, like this little tiny frogs like I'm gonna

494
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: give you a sound that's gonna blow your mind. They're

495
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: gonna blow your mind. And like I saw this little

496
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: purple frog, and I'm like, that's a charming frog. That's

497
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: a charming frog that has taken on all of the

498
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: characteristics of a mole along with all of the characteristics

499
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: of a frog to become a cute little wad of

500
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: a creature. I I like his stubby little nose. He's uh,

501
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: he's character. I'm glad you see this frog is cute.

502
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: I see them as cute too. I think some people

503
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: might not see them as cute. Um, but they're wrong,

504
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: and we're objectively right. Oh. I do just want to

505
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: say that what we were talking about with the frog

506
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: that gives birth out of its back, it's called the

507
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: surinam toad. And tripophobia means when you have a sort

508
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: of visceral, unpleasant reaction to seeing a bunch of holes

509
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: or like a bunch of circles. It can even be

510
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: like if you see like soap bubbles. That can sometimes

511
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: triger it for people. Um, but I think, yeah, we

512
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: did talk about the surname toad on one episode, and

513
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: I had a warning for people who have typophobia because

514
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: it is one of the worst examples of that. I think, Um,

515
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, fortunately, yes, fortunately, the purple frog does

516
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: not trigger triple phobia. It's just a weird purple thing.

517
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: Like it's bad. It's so interestingly shaped because it's back

518
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: is like it's so like kind of flabby, and it

519
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: looks like it's got a backwards But to me. Yeah,

520
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: and that pink little nose, and and it's its head

521
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: is so tiny compared to the rest of its body. Yeah,

522
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: I find it. I find it weirdly cute as well.

523
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: They are really interesting too in terms of their behavior.

524
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: So these guys live in the Western Ghats, which is

525
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: a mountain range in India where it spends most of

526
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: its time underground until the monsoon season, when they emerge

527
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: as rainwater streams form. Uh. So they live most of

528
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: their life underground, and they can be totally autonomous under

529
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: there because they feed on termites underground, they don't really

530
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: need to surface for anything until it's mating season. So

531
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: once it gets raining outside, they will come up to

532
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: have a big old purple frog or g which is

533
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: just incredible. So the males will actually stay slightly under

534
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: the surface of the soil and will call to females

535
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: by filling their vocal sacks with air and vibrating the earth,

536
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: creating a miniature love earthquake that females will come to.

537
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: And the male is like about half the size of

538
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: a female, so they're little guys, and so they'll crawl

539
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: up over this like enormous female. I'm looking at this

540
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: image of the male on the female and the way,

541
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: like the way her skin dimples under the weight of

542
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: him is exactly how I imagine like the flesh specifically

543
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: of like Java the hut to be. Yeah. Uh yeah,

544
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: it's like it's like kind of rubbery in a weird way.

545
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: It's rubbery, but it looks lady. Yeah, yeah, it looks

546
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: kind of fun, you know, like a bouncy castle. Like

547
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: if like you're a male and you're mating with a

548
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: female and you start bouncing and she's like, hey, come on,

549
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm your lover,

550
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: not a bouncy castle. Settle down. But yeah, I mean

551
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: these frogs aren't overall, they're not like that big. They're

552
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: only like a couple inches big more or less. But yeah,

553
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: like it is to see the difference in size, like

554
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: just this little tiny male like trying to get up

555
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: over this big blob of a female. It's it's very

556
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: cute in my opinion. Um, And so whence they mate,

557
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: the female can produce around three thousand eggs, which is

558
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: pretty good, pretty good, pretty good a rate of egg return.

559
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: And the tadpoles are just as weird looking as the

560
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: adults in my opinion. They have these big f at

561
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: heads and they have section cups on their underbellies which

562
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: they used to cling to slimy algae covered rocks. Uh.

563
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: And they're not purple. The tadpoles are sort of like

564
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: yellow and brownish kind of coloration to match the color

565
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: of the algae as a form of camouflage. But yeah,

566
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: they just uh kind of like sucker onto that. And

567
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: they also have kind of a funny face. They've got

568
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: these eyeballs on the top of their heads and then

569
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: they just kind of have like a pancake face and

570
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: then little tails. It's really funny. They look like my

571
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: favorite little guys. They look like man raise. Yeah, they

572
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: do a little bit. I'm trying to remember the one

573
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: that's in a guitar shape and if it's called guitar fish,

574
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: and would be mad at myself. Uh, but it's specifically

575
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: I remember because at the Long Beach Aquarium they have

576
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: a tank it's full of like a bunch of little

577
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: banner raise. But there's just one that's in that guitar shape.

578
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: I mean, there is a fish called the guitar fish.

579
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: That's that might be what you're thinking of you're thinking of,

580
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: I think you're spot on. I got very familiar with

581
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: everything at the touch Tanks, so the Long Beach Aquarium

582
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: to where like I knew exactly every single tank and

583
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: why it had been moved. Uh, the nurse shark had

584
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: been in. I love that. I love that you're a

585
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: touch tank groupie. I was as well for the Birch

586
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: Aquarium in Lajoya. I there they have this like outdoor

587
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: tide pool area where you can like put your hands

588
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: in and it's mostly for kids, but like even as

589
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,959
Speaker 1: an adult, I'm like, I must gently touch you see

590
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: urchin even now, like I take my niece and I

591
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: spend more time and like when that was a thing,

592
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: I like spend more time in it than she was,

593
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: and I like asked too many questions about every specific

594
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: one and very dumb. But the nurse shark at the

595
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: Long Beach Aquarium had to be moved not because of

596
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: a child, but because of an adult. Because most children

597
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: understand that you can like pretty easily, like in a

598
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: smaller tank, just like touch the top of a nurse

599
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: shark without having doing anything, because they're like pretty docile

600
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: um and they're like but just don't read your hands

601
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 1: under because of the way they feed. They like sex

602
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: stuff up um. And an adult man stuck his hands

603
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: underneath the north shark and with his fingers tried to

604
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: look for its mouth because he wanted to see if

605
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: that was correct. And your shark does and it like

606
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: it didn't. He didn't lose any fingers. It just like

607
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: skinned his knuckles because it's like running your fingers across gravel.

608
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: But he ruined it for all the children, for everyone, like, oh,

609
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see where its mouth is and put my

610
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: fingers in its mouth Like okay, buddy, Like that is

611
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: completely on you, you know what I mean. Now she's

612
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: not the touch tank anymore. She's with the other sharks.

613
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: Not her fault. He did nothing wrong. She thought you

614
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: were shrimps. Sir, sir, you're literally saying your finger food

615
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: and he took you up on it. Did nothing wrong. Ah,

616
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: that's that's annoying. But yeah, that is uh, that is

617
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: the tail of the purple frog. I think they're just

618
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: they're one of these animals. I like that you mentioned

619
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: job of the hut because they do look like sort

620
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: of a Jim Hinson creation to me, just like some

621
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: kind of like little inflatable thing made out of rubber

622
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: that shouldn't be real. I also love their bodies are

623
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: designed for burrowing, not for moving along the ground, so

624
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: they really don't look like they should be able to

625
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: walk very well. And indeed they don't really walk very

626
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: well because they are like their body is kind of

627
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: like shovel shaped to be able to burrow and dig underground,

628
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: and so like above ground, they just look like a

629
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: weird little balloon with little nubby legs, just kind of

630
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: like dangling off that funny. I love it. While there's

631
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: only room in my heart enough for one purple frog

632
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: the cute blobs we've just discussed, there are a number

633
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: of frogs and toads who are perill in spectacular looking.

634
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: The papers stubb foot toad looks like a psychedelic Lisa

635
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: Frank poster with bright purple and black coloration, and the

636
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: South American polka dot tree frog, normally a chipper yellow color,

637
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: blows blue and purple under UV light. Man, I need

638
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: frogs like to rave. When we return, We're going to

639
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: give the X Men a much needed rebranding with some

640
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: real science. Humans may not be able to regrow whole limbs,

641
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: but a fingertip or toe tip can regrow if you

642
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: have enough of the nail bed left behind. In humans

643
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: and other mammals, if you have enough of the tissue

644
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: of the nail bed, the nail epithelium, you actually can

645
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: grow back part of the finger or toe. This part

646
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: of the digit is important because it contains stem cells

647
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: that allows for the regrowth of tissue. Meanwhile, in animals

648
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: that can fully grow back limbs, like salamanders, a chemical

649
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: signal at the wound site causes all the tissue in

650
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: the area to revert back to a group of immature

651
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: cells called the blasted emma, that can then differentiate and

652
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: grow into the missing parts of the limb. There's a

653
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: recent discovery, however, that may lead to more questions about

654
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:28,479
Speaker 1: the evolution of limb regeneration. Uh so, Vanessa, do you like,

655
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, X Men, Superheroes, so on and so forth?

656
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: Big fan? That's good? Yeah, I you know, I feel like, um,

657
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: Wolverine is cool, but I feel like he could use

658
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: like a makeover, you know what I mean, Because like

659
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: when you think about Wolverine, like the actual little animals,

660
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: like he doesn't you know, It's like just he doesn't

661
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: even really capitalize on what wolverines look like. And they

662
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: can't eat, like, wolverines can't even regenerate, so it's not accurate.

663
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: Like what what's the deal? Like? Why you know? It's like, oh,

664
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: I'm Wolverine. Why because you have because five burns? Because

665
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: you're you're from down under? Oh it's but he's not.

666
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: He's it's just the actor, right, who's just what's his name,

667
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackman, who's from Australia. I forget because a lot

668
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: about Wolverine has changed because of Hugh Jackman's portrayal, because

669
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: he's now tall and he used to be a shorty

670
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: m hmm. Wolverine was five three until Hugh Jackman started

671
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: playing him. Wait is Hugh Jackman tall? I didn't get

672
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: that impression. I feel like he's definitely taller than five

673
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: three because I'm five three, uh, and anything standing near

674
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: me looks very tall and like he seems to be

675
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: in the movies about as tall as Scott Summers, right,

676
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: And Wolverine has always been a little guy. Well that's more.

677
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: That's more like it, right, because like Wolverines they're um,

678
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 1: you know, not they're not tiny, but they're little compact. Uh.

679
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: Characters are actually not from Australia that I think you're

680
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: thinking of the Tasmanian devil um, but the wolverine is

681
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: um found sort of in the northern hemisphere. But yeah,

682
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: they're there. I don't know. I would say they're about

683
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: like Bobcat sized and they're quite fierce, but they can't regenerate.

684
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: So I feel like we should go with an animal

685
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: can regenerate, And there is some recent news about a

686
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: new contender for animals who can regenerate, which is quite surprising,

687
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: And it turns out that alligators can regenerate, which is

688
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: incredible news. So we know that lizards can regenerate. We

689
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: know that amphibians that I mean all animals to a

690
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: certain extent canra generate, like even humans, like we can

691
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: grow back skin to a certain extent. But it's all

692
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: on sort of a spectrum of like you have like

693
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: salamanders that can like regrow whole body parts, and then

694
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: you have like lizards that can regrow their tails. And

695
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 1: it turns out that alligators can partially regrow their tails,

696
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: which is would make them the biggest animal that can

697
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: regrow a significant amount of their body that has been lost. Oh,

698
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: up to nine inches. I'm so happy for them. Yeah,

699
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: I know, it's just like nine inches nice. Um. Yes,

700
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: that is the amount of tail that a young alligator

701
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: can grow back, which is incredible. It's a good amount.

702
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: And like, do we know how much of tail they regrow,

703
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: like how much a skin versus like usable tail. That's

704
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: a really good question. So it is. It doesn't seem

705
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: to be skin and muscle. I'm not as certain about

706
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: how much of the bone grows back because that's actually

707
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,959
Speaker 1: a tricky thing like they are. In fact, in some

708
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: reptiles and amphibians. Instead of bone, it's like cartilage because

709
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: that's easier to grow. I think for the alligators it's

710
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: mostly skin and muscle tissue. They can grow back some cartilage,

711
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: but it's unknown whether they can. It doesn't look like

712
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: they can grow backbone, but they may be able to

713
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: grow back some of their spinal cord. It's not clear, okay,

714
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: which is really quite impressive. And as a reminder, alligators

715
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: and crocodiles are not reptiles. They are crocodilians, which is

716
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: a different order of animals from reptiles, although they do

717
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: share common ancestor with reptiles. So the reason it's so

718
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: important for young alligators to be able to regrow their

719
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: tails is to allow them to remain mobile. So while

720
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: you wouldn't think of alligators as having to worry about predators,

721
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: young alligators are cute little snacks, like have you ever

722
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: seen them? Adorable, tasty, small, so they can actually be

723
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: eaten up by like a addict birds of prey. There

724
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: are all sorts of animals that would consider them a

725
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: good snack, So being able to quickly swim away from

726
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: a predator is really important. So there would be pressure

727
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: on them to be able to even if they lose

728
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: their tail, be able to regrow it so that they

729
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: can still use that to swim and escape predation. I

730
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: don't know why I didn't consider that to be like

731
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: such an important part of a alligator or crocodile. For

732
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: some reason, it was just like animal plus extra. In

733
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: my head is insane because I know, like, tails are

734
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: so important to so many other creatures, um and other

735
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: than like you know, maybe like using it when they

736
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: spin out to like rip off a piece. I was

737
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: just like, well, I feel like a stumpy alligator could

738
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: do pretty well, But that wasn't something considered. Yeah, I

739
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: mean it's yeah, it is. It tails do feel I

740
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: think because we don't have tails, who are like, oh,

741
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: it's just a little extra. It's like the animal and

742
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: then like animal plus extra. But yeah, it is. It

743
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: is very important for them to have for swimming. And again,

744
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: like we think of like when we see alligators, they're

745
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: kind of not necessarily quick and agile. They're sort of

746
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: like maybe lumbering or basking, but like little alligators have

747
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: to be very quick in order to survive and and

748
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: swim quite swiftly. This is a really recent discovery, so

749
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: it's not yet known whether adults regrow their tails or

750
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: can regenerate. My guests would be because there's less evolutionary

751
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: pressure on them to regenerate, maybe less likely that they would.

752
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: Uh maybe they can't. They probably can to a certain extent,

753
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 1: but I would guess that like with young alligators, especially

754
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: because they're still developing, it's probably much more likely that

755
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: the young ones um are able to regenerate more than

756
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: than older alligators. But we'll see, we don't know yet.

757
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: And it's also so their ability to regenerate is not

758
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: as advanced as lizards and amphibians, so they can't regrow

759
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: as much back as those other types of animals can.

760
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: And there's also no evidence that like, you know, like

761
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: with reptiles, they can detach their tail and then it

762
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: like wiggles around, which is called an autonomous tail or

763
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 1: self amputation. I don't I don't think there's any evidence

764
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: that like the tail like pops off and like wiggles

765
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: around on its own, right exactly. Geckos do that as well.

766
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: It's probably the case that like it's just like if

767
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: their tail gets damaged or eaten, like then they can

768
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: partially regrow it. But it is It's really interesting because again,

769
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: like they aren't reptiles, but they share a common ancestor

770
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: with reptiles. They actually share a common ancestor with reptiles

771
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: and dinosaurs. Um. Yeah, and the living dinosaurs of today

772
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: are birds. So birds are the only living example of

773
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: dinosaurs that we have. Uh. And birds don't regrow their tails,

774
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: Like if they're uh, you know, parts of their to

775
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: you are chopped off, they don't regrow them. So there's

776
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: a really interesting question to be explored where so lizards

777
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: can regrow their tails, um, and alligators uh who are

778
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: crocodilians can regrow their tails. So did dinosaurs at some

779
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: point have this ability, did they never have it um

780
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: or did they lose it like before we got to birds.

781
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: So it's a really interesting question and I will be

782
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: keeping an eye out for more news about that um.

783
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: But it's just so interesting to me how we can

784
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: learn something about an alligator of today, and then it

785
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: opens up all these questions about like dinosaurs, and we

786
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: have we still have birds around living examples of dinosaurs,

787
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: and so we can be like, hey, wait a minute,

788
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: you guys, you guys can't do this, so what the

789
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: heck what's going on? And then now we have all

790
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: of these open questions about dinosaurs to find out. I

791
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: love it. I love anything that just opens up a

792
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: opens up more questions and be reaffirmed that I don't

793
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: know anything and I never will know whatever will Yeah. No,

794
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: every time I do research for this podcast, I'm like, huh,

795
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: I don't know anything, which is exciting. Yeah, I can't.

796
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: I can't imagine every hitting a cap and being like, oh,

797
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: I've figured it out. That has to be so boring, right,

798
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: Like I know enough now I'm just gonna lie down

799
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: on the floor. That would only happen if I like

800
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: pooped out, I'm not kind of I'm not gonna do

801
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: a call back because it's in the If you guys

802
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 1: skip the growth section, it's call back to the growth section.

803
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: But that would make us stop wanting to learn. But

804
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: this makes me want to keep going right exactly exactly,

805
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: So before we finish up, I want to read a

806
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: listener email. I kind of want to do this more often.

807
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: You guys are sending in some really excellent emails, and

808
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: I feel like it's selfish of me to keep them

809
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: all to myself because they have some really interesting things.

810
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: You guys also show being cute pet pictures, which I love.

811
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm keeping those all to myself. I'm not sharing those.

812
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: Those are amazing. Um so, you know, suck at everyone else,

813
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: but I will share. Uh this email that I got

814
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: um from a park ranger and I was like super

815
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: fan girling, amazed that a park ranger is listening to

816
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: the podcast, so so cool. Um. So yeah, this is

817
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: her email and it is a fascinating story of some

818
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: horny bees. So Barbara Mitchell, park ranger of the Mohave

819
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: National Preserve Rights. Hi, Katie, I'm a huge fan of

820
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: the podcast. Thank you, for saying nice things about me.

821
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: She says that, Um, anyway, on the latest episode, uh,

822
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: the one about b movie, you mentioned that idiot horn

823
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: dog mail bees sometimes try to mate with orchids. At

824
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: my current park, the Mohave National Preserve, we also have

825
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: idiot horn dog male bees that try to mate with

826
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: inappropriate objects. Since you strike me as a lady who

827
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: likes knowing things, I thought i'd pass along the knowledge.

828
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: That was a good guess I am. I mean, I'm

829
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: a lady who likes no stuff. When blister beetles of

830
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: the species Mellot franciscanis francis cannis is probably right hatch

831
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: the larva arrange into a tight ball on top of

832
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: a grass stock and attract passing male bees using pheromones.

833
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: When a bee arrives and tries to mate with the

834
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 1: bundle of larva, sigh, the blister beetles hold tight onto

835
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: his fuzzy little body. Apparently, if a writhing ball of

836
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: larva smell like a lady bee, that's enough to convince

837
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: the male that it is a lady be. The male bee,

838
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: now covered with larva, continues looking for a female bee

839
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: because his wiener hasn't exploded. Yet, if he finds one

840
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Speaker 1: and mates with her, the low Francis Canis larva transferred

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Speaker 1: to the lady be Then when she flies back to

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Speaker 1: her nest, the blister beetle larva steals the bees pollen

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Speaker 1: and provisions also fun. When the male bee is covered

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Speaker 1: in malow frances Canis larva, he has to avoid other

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Speaker 1: male bees trying to mate with him because he smells

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Speaker 1: like a female due to the larva. That would also

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Speaker 1: make a much better movie than the B movies Courtroom Drama.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that deeply, so thank you so much, Barbara.

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Speaker 1: That is an incredible story. All include some images in

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Speaker 1: the show notes because it's so funny. But yeah, so

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Speaker 1: the this larva is they're they're like little tiny they

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Speaker 1: actually kind of look like ants. They aren't ants, uh,

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Speaker 1: and they are you know, basic larva shape, but they're

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Speaker 1: they're little tiny, kind of like grain of rice sized,

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Speaker 1: um reddish brown, and they form just like this cluster

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Speaker 1: that's just a blob. And the bee sees this and

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Speaker 1: it's like it smells like a lady and it's vaguely

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Speaker 1: blob shaped. So hey, I'm going in. It's like the

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Speaker 1: ultimate bee beer goggles. It's incredible and like, I can't

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Speaker 1: think of anything more reaffirming that in all nature, don't

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Speaker 1: don't let it, don't let any man let it be

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Speaker 1: be your human make you feel inferior because they're down

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Speaker 1: for a pile of larva, right right, not too discriminating. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So like you're enough no matter what form you come in,

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Speaker 1: better than a pile of larva. Like if a pile

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Speaker 1: of larva can find love, anyone can, even whoever is

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Speaker 1: considering it. Yeah, so so there you go. You know,

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Speaker 1: idiot horned dog bees making finding love in the strangers

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Speaker 1: of places, even if it's an actual pile of larva,

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Speaker 1: who want to go and parasitize a bees nest? Amazing, wonderful, incredible,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for for that email, Barbara. Um

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Speaker 1: And yeah, if anyone else wants to send me a

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Speaker 1: listener email. I think I'll do more of this reading

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Speaker 1: it on the show if you guys like it, because yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes you guys spend in such interesting stories

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Speaker 1: that I just have to share it. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think we I think we've done it. We've gone from

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Speaker 1: living tampons two bees that try to mate with balls

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Speaker 1: of Larva, So I think that'll do it for today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining me, Vanessa. Do you

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Speaker 1: have anything to plug other than your cinematic venture to

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Speaker 1: digitize your Shark movie that you made with her and

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Speaker 1: or Herzog when you were tenure hol Uh. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: have a podcast as well called Kicking and Streaming. Um.

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Speaker 1: If you like either horror movies or martial arts movies. Uh.

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Speaker 1: We put them together because we think that they're basically

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Speaker 1: same notes. Uh. And we try and basically challenge each

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Speaker 1: other to double features each week. So one person picks

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Speaker 1: with that pairing. And sometimes they're real concession stuff and

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Speaker 1: brought back the feelings of sitting in a Denny's talking

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Speaker 1: about movies with your friends that I've like, deeply missed

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Speaker 1: in Quarantine. So check it out. We have a couple.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of episodes that I really like

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Speaker 1: and some coming up that are absolutely bonkers. So cannot wait.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. Can you guys talk about Slither? Not yet,

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Speaker 1: glad if you want to be on and bring it forward,

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Speaker 1: I bet you're gonna like the nest of podcast. We

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Speaker 1: get gross. But yeah, where where can people find you?

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Speaker 1: On the social media? You can find me under at

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Speaker 1: am Katie Golden. I have a Twitter. It's Katie Golden

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. And as always I'm also a pro bird

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Speaker 1: birds trying to get a bird agenda through the podcast industry.

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Speaker 1: That's and that's just ridiculous. Shane. Anyways, thank you guys

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Speaker 1: so much for listening. If you're enjoying the show, please

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