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Speaker 2: after Welcome to the program. Check in with the Jets.
Speaker 2: Kyle Brant Good Morning Football stops by. He blew out
Speaker 2: his achilles while filming some promos a couple of years
Speaker 2: ago for Good Morning Football, and just to let you know,
Speaker 2: we did book him prior to what happened last night.
Speaker 2: To Aaron Rodgers, We're not that good. Al Michaels will
Speaker 2: join us a little bit later on as well. It's
Speaker 2: a win, but it doesn't feel like it. The Jets
Speaker 2: beat the Bill and a punp return in overtime, but
Speaker 2: a big loss with Aaron Rodgers done for the season,
Speaker 2: or at least likely done for the season. Athletes know
Speaker 2: their bodies. If you watch Aaron Rodgers seems pretty composed
Speaker 2: now I know that he knows the cameras are on him,
Speaker 2: but when he goes down, he almost is resigned to
Speaker 2: the fact that something is really serious. Now, it's not
Speaker 2: like he's had an achilles injury before. Where you go, yep,
Speaker 2: I know what that is. You know, when Kobe Bryant
Speaker 2: got injured, Kobe knew right away. Now he got up
Speaker 2: shot his two free throws, but he limped off, and
Speaker 2: he knew that this was serious. It was the achilles.
Speaker 2: I have played basketball before where I was playing a
Speaker 2: teammate of mine blew out both of his achilles on
Speaker 2: the same play. He blew them out, and he thought
Speaker 2: he'd been shot. People when they get hit in the
Speaker 2: achilles or the achilles goes, they think they got kicked.
Speaker 2: And sometimes you'll see them turn around like who kicked me?
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers knew something was really serious last night, and
Speaker 2: you could see him, you know, when he sat down
Speaker 2: it just like God, he could not this is not possible.
Speaker 2: And then you start you saw him limping. I don't
Speaker 2: know how much pain he was in because that kind
Speaker 2: of varies, you know, depending on who it is. You know,
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant blew out his achilles and Kobe, you know,
Speaker 2: didn't seem like they were grimacing in pain, even Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers last night. But then you have players people who
Speaker 2: blow out their achilles and it's like they got shot
Speaker 2: four plays. I don't know if I've ever witnessed a
Speaker 2: higher high and a lower low in the span of
Speaker 2: thirty minutes covering sports for forty years. Now that atmosphere there.
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers runs out with the American flag the anniversary
Speaker 2: of nine to eleven. They got the spotlight on him.
Speaker 2: Here we go, here we go, months of hype, hard knocks,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, he was under duress
Speaker 2: in three of the four plays that he had. Knew
Speaker 2: that the offensive line was going to be an issue,
Speaker 2: we didn't know it was going to be that big
Speaker 2: of an issue that soon. But he's done, and Zach
Speaker 2: Wilson is now your starting quarterback or is he? Because
Speaker 2: you have a super Bowl talented roster, you have to
Speaker 2: exhaust all avenues here if you're the Jets. So we'll
Speaker 2: talk to one of their beat writers, Brian Costello the
Speaker 2: New York Post. Is there a chance and you have
Speaker 2: to ask the question with Tom Brady will like to
Speaker 2: play for the Jets after a day before saying that
Speaker 2: he was a Patriot for life. But hey, you can
Speaker 2: be a patriot for life, but can you be a
Speaker 2: Jet for I don't know. A few months now eight
Speaker 2: seven seven to three DP Show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com,
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Speaker 2: Jets won the game, and this is how it sounded and.
Speaker 1: Getting away a line drive kick of Sam Martin Gibson
Speaker 1: runs under it at the ten thirty five, charts to
Speaker 1: his left, gets to the fourdy turns the corner.
Speaker 3: Not the forty. Fot that fuck? Is it good?
Speaker 1: Not the forty, not the Bills thirty.
Speaker 2: He's out the twenty.
Speaker 1: It's not a step to the ten to.
Speaker 4: The food touch down.
Speaker 5: It's a Jet touch down.
Speaker 2: This game is over Jets Radio Network with the call,
Speaker 2: wonderful call. The Buffalo Bills lost this game. The Jets
Speaker 2: are going to get credit for a victory. Buffalo lost
Speaker 2: this game. They had as many turnovers as they did
Speaker 2: points in the second half. Three. Josh Allen played horribly
Speaker 2: and had this to say afterwards, Josh, the four turnovers.
Speaker 6: Was that something they did or is that just.
Speaker 5: You maybe force the ball trying to force the ball
Speaker 5: on a little bit and trying to force the ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, same ship, same play as different day. You would
Speaker 2: think that Jack Wilson would play that way. Not Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: We've been down this road. When he first started, he
Speaker 2: didn't look like now. I'm talking about when he first
Speaker 2: got to Buffalo. I said, I don't know if he
Speaker 2: knows how to play the position, because he made a
Speaker 2: lot of bad mistakes and he forced he forced the
Speaker 2: ball last night, he threw a couple of interceptions. You're
Speaker 2: just going why and then the fumble there. Stat of
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Speaker 2: Jets and Aaron Rodgers and your season, perhaps heading South.
Speaker 1: Takes the snap, drops back, looks over the middle under pressure,
Speaker 1: and he rookie South back to the thirty two yard
Speaker 1: line by Leonard Floyd. So the Bills get a big
Speaker 1: negative and Aaron Rodgers gets up with a limp. Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers right now doesn't look one hundred percent right, good
Speaker 1: way with because got Leonon Floyd right, he's gone down.
Speaker 1: Then Aaron Rodgers is sitting down in the field, he's hurt.
Speaker 1: Eleven fifteen to go in the opening quarter and Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers is injured on the sack by Leonard Floyd and
Speaker 1: the Jets training staff surrounds him, and Zack Wilson pops
Speaker 1: up and starts to get ready and takes some warm up.
Speaker 2: Throws questionable, then doubtful, then out for the game. It
Speaker 2: didn't take long and you could tell the owner what
Speaker 2: he Johnson was informed. You could tell when Robert Salah
Speaker 2: knew that it was going to be serious, and body
Speaker 2: language wise, you knew Aaron Rodgers knew right away. By
Speaker 2: the way, who would have thought that Zack Wilson would
Speaker 2: have a better quarterback rating than Josh Allen but he
Speaker 2: did last night. Is Josh Allen or is Zach Wilson
Speaker 2: good enough to keep this team in contention? I was
Speaker 2: curious about what are the Super Bowl odds? The Jets
Speaker 2: were plus sixteen hundred to win the Super Bowl started
Speaker 2: the season. It's pretty good the injury. According to DraftKings,
Speaker 2: the Jets are now plus six thousand. Do you know
Speaker 2: who has better odds to win the Super Bowl? The
Speaker 2: green Bay Packers do.
Speaker 7: Whoo cow stall of a day, stant of a day,
Speaker 7: stall of a day, stant outa day.
Speaker 2: This is the stele of the day. By the way,
Speaker 2: the Packers lost last night because if Aaron Rodgers played,
Speaker 2: I think upwards of sixty five percent of the staffs
Speaker 2: seventy percent of the snaps, Green Bay would have gotten
Speaker 2: the first round draft pick. Now, as the result of
Speaker 2: the injury, it's a second round draft pick. Early odds
Speaker 2: for the Jets and Cowboys. The Jets are getting seven
Speaker 2: and a half at Dallas. I can't imagine what Michael
Speaker 2: Parsons probably thought when he saw Aaron Rodgers go down
Speaker 2: and went, m Zach Wilson is on the menu next weekend.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 8: Yes, Marv first, Daniel Jones, now Zach Wilson. Yeah, party time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Inflate those numbers with that Dallas defense, all right?
Speaker 2: Eight seven to seven three DP show email Addressdpadanpatrick dot com,
Speaker 2: twitter handle at DP show. Here is Robert Salah, the
Speaker 2: Jets head coach. When he found out Rogers was done,
Speaker 2: kind of numid with that.
Speaker 9: He was out obviously, we knew he was out and
Speaker 9: when they told me what they think it was just
Speaker 9: recall him, the look on Aaron's face before he went
Speaker 9: and took his knee pretty much know in the first half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he knew, he knew right away. This is something different.
Speaker 2: It's a different type of injury. Guys when they bang
Speaker 2: up their knee, their shoulder, they know it and achilles.
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Speaker 2: let's pull a question today.
Speaker 10: Well, I think we're going to try and solve the
Speaker 10: Jets quarterback situation. Daan Okay, the Jets a quarterback should
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Speaker 10: Did they stick with Zach Wilson or do they go
Speaker 10: look for somebody?
Speaker 2: Okay, you can look, but are you going to find
Speaker 2: a Nick Foles type of quarterback?
Speaker 10: Do you want to find a Nick Foles type of
Speaker 10: quarterback or.
Speaker 2: Nick Foles, Well, it feels like Philip Rivers is always
Speaker 2: ready to play. He's not it. No, he's not. Uh,
Speaker 2: but that wasn't going to he's ready to play. That
Speaker 2: doesn't make can yeah, hey, no, no, no Phil. It's like
Speaker 2: the kid in class who raises his hand and you're like, no,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna call on you. Yes, Ton rab Zach Wilson.
Speaker 11: Or Matt Ryan or was that such a disaster with
Speaker 11: the Colts? Is that something you would even look at
Speaker 11: at all?
Speaker 2: Do the Jets know what they have in Zach Wilson?
Speaker 2: I think that's really the key. It's like the Packers
Speaker 2: they knew what they had in Jordan Love's they were
Speaker 2: going to move on from Rogers the previous year, you know,
Speaker 2: for a variety of reasons. You know, they move on
Speaker 2: from the drama here. But they knew what they had
Speaker 2: in Jordan Love. I don't know if the Jets know,
Speaker 2: and maybe they do know what they have in Zack Wilson.
Speaker 2: But you got him under contract, you can't demote him
Speaker 2: to third string, well, second string, he'd be the backup
Speaker 2: to somebody, you know, do you look at Jacoby Brissett.
Speaker 2: Do you look at Gardner Minshew? Do you look at
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz? Do you look at Tom Brady? I got it.
Speaker 2: I have to at least ask the question for Tom Brady.
Speaker 10: The Tom Brady thing is funny, but why not sure?
Speaker 10: You need a dude for one year? While Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 10: is fixing his ankle, fixing his achilles, you know he's
Speaker 10: not gonna want to stay longer than that.
Speaker 2: Well you never know. With Tom you never know. But
Speaker 2: here's another thing. You have to factor in Aaron Rodgers's
Speaker 2: age here. This is a year long process. He is
Speaker 2: going to be forty in December, and you're trying to
Speaker 2: come back from an achilles injury. This is different than
Speaker 2: all the surgeries. I mean surgeries now. I mean it's
Speaker 2: amazing what they're able to do and get you back playing,
Speaker 2: but an achilles, there's no shortcut. He's going to be
Speaker 2: forty rehabbing this to try to come back, and I
Speaker 2: don't even know if that's enough time to be able
Speaker 2: to come back. Dan Marino blew out his achilles late
Speaker 2: in his career. I mean, these things happen, and then
Speaker 2: try to come back and then having the energy to
Speaker 2: want to come back. Remember he was saying I'm in
Speaker 2: it for a couple of years here. Now owe that
Speaker 2: to the Jets. Well, we didn't think that this was
Speaker 2: going to happen, and now Aaron Rodgers rehab for a
Speaker 2: year to come back. Can you get somebody? Who can
Speaker 2: you get because that's a good roster.
Speaker 4: Yeah, pulling a couple thanks. Nick Foles is thirty four,
Speaker 4: he's five years younger than Rogers. You can get him
Speaker 4: for nothing. He's just sitting out there. Gardner Minshew's twenty
Speaker 4: seven years old. If you're the Colts, you're not playing
Speaker 4: for anything this year. You've chosen to hand your team
Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson. Maybe you pick up a third round draft
Speaker 4: choice for Gardner Minshew out of nowhere. You signed col
Speaker 4: McCoy as a backup, move on and have a bad season.
Speaker 4: Here's another one. Would you trade for Kyler Murray?
Speaker 2: Just kidding?
Speaker 4: That's why to see the exit of the room. Min
Speaker 4: doesn't Minshew make sense?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 4: It's kind of like remember when Teddy Bridgewater went down
Speaker 4: and the Minnesota Vikings thought they had the Super Bowl team,
Speaker 4: so they traded for Sam Bradford, which didn't work out.
Speaker 4: But the filled up. Eagles fleeced him. If you're the Colts,
Speaker 4: you can maybe fleece the Jets.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Gardner Minshew is You're able to
Speaker 2: fleece them over Gardner Minshew, Well, would you I like him?
Speaker 2: I like Gardner Minshew. I've said that before.
Speaker 4: Forty four touchdowns, fifteen picks in his career. He's twenty seven,
Speaker 4: and with that roster, he has to hand off. He's
Speaker 4: throw to Garrett Wilson and let the defense take over.
Speaker 2: You got to understand the offense. So they bring in
Speaker 2: Nathaniel Hackett, they bring in Alan Lazard, they bring in
Speaker 2: Randall Cobb. They brought in everything for Aaron Rodgers to
Speaker 2: run Aaron Rodgers offense. So Zach Wilson gets in there,
Speaker 2: he's he's got to learn Aaron Rodgers' offense now with
Speaker 2: the first team, and you could see where he was
Speaker 2: struggling a little bit, just like, just hand the ball off, dude,
Speaker 2: don't do much. Hand the ball off. Let's see if
Speaker 2: we can get out of here with the victory. But
Speaker 2: I wonder if somebody who was played under Nathaniel Hackett,
Speaker 2: who's the offensive coordinator, and I don't think there's anybody
Speaker 2: that you can bring in who knows that system, you know,
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Brett Rippon, Blake Bortles, Chad Henny,
Speaker 2: Cody Kessler, EJ. Man. These are guys who have played
Speaker 2: in Nathaniel Hackett system. They're not available you want them.
Speaker 4: Blake Portals, by the way, is only thirty one years
Speaker 4: old out of football.
Speaker 1: Wow, oh wow.
Speaker 2: Does Cam Newton call and say hey if you need me?
Speaker 2: Why not? Well, I mean he might call, but I
Speaker 2: don't think Cam Newton would be the guy that you
Speaker 2: want running that offense.
Speaker 8: Yes, Marvin, this is like me having my hand up
Speaker 8: during pickup and there's a bunch of really really good
Speaker 8: players instead, Like, hey, I'm ready if you guys need me,
Speaker 8: all right, Marvin, sit down?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, Tom.
Speaker 11: Drew Brees is forty four.
Speaker 2: Is there anything? Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 10: There's quarterbacks all over the country right now that we're like, wonder,
Speaker 10: do I got it in me?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know. Cam is like oh yeah, ready
Speaker 2: to go. He's like, honey, let's go out back. Let
Speaker 2: me see if I still got it. Let me take
Speaker 2: the door off, Yeah, let me take that my scarf
Speaker 2: let me take that off, get out of here. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna happen. That would be funny though,
Speaker 2: just just to be the operator at the Jets facility. Yes,
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers, Police, hold Gardner Poleae hold Tom Brake. I'll
Speaker 2: put you right through. Tom. You get a lot of I'm.
Speaker 11: Not here, I'm here, I'm not I'm busy, I'm not here.
Speaker 2: What other poll questions do we have there?
Speaker 10: Well, we could go negative as we love the O
Speaker 10: who had I mean we just did.
Speaker 2: Who had the worst week yesterday?
Speaker 10: That just got dramatically different today?
Speaker 2: Who had the worst week? One? The Jets?
Speaker 10: Aaron Rodgers say, the television networks that probably had a
Speaker 10: ton of Jets game schedule.
Speaker 2: M as Marvin said, what's the earliest you can flex
Speaker 2: your schedule here? Because all of a sudden the Jets
Speaker 2: with eld Aaron ronders still interesting, not as interesting, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 4: Jets are on National TV next weekend. They're in National
Speaker 4: TV week four versus the Chiefs. They're in National TV
Speaker 4: versus the Eagles in week six. I can go on.
Speaker 4: They're on National TV versus the Charters in week nine
Speaker 4: versus the Raiders Jets are on National TV Week ten
Speaker 4: versus the Raiders. My guess is they were planning to
Speaker 4: be versus the Bills week eleven. That was a four
Speaker 4: o'clock game, but they would have made that one of
Speaker 4: the big games. They're on National TV Week seventeen versus
Speaker 4: the brown.
Speaker 10: Were like the dread Zone.
Speaker 2: All right, Todd, thank you? Oh yes, Tom.
Speaker 11: Do networks make any kind of deals like ahead of
Speaker 11: time before their deciding what games they could do, like
Speaker 11: at this injury we have an opportunity to or they're
Speaker 11: kind of stuck for the most part with all these.
Speaker 2: Well the other networks don't want to help you out. No,
Speaker 2: Roger's just a solid Yeah, can you take this game
Speaker 2: off our hands?
Speaker 5: Here?
Speaker 2: We're going to take a pretty big ratings here.
Speaker 11: Yeah, here, spend all this money hoping Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 11: going to be playing all these games for the Jets.
Speaker 2: On our network. I remember working at NBC and Football
Speaker 2: Night in America. We Pilford a game from CBS boomer
Speaker 2: Assize and was upset about it.
Speaker 13: I remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, why do they got to take our game? Well,
Speaker 2: because it's a better game. Yeah, Yeah, that's that's what
Speaker 2: you negotiate for Boomer. Yes, Paulie, it's funny.
Speaker 4: There was a story in the offseason that Roger Goodell
Speaker 4: was pushing towards more flexing, more flexing with Thursday night
Speaker 4: games a lot more flexing, and people are up in arms.
Speaker 4: It was change people's travel schedules. But that's something the
Speaker 4: NFL does want, more flexing ability.
Speaker 2: All right, are the Jets in the market for trading
Speaker 2: for somebody? We'll check in with Brian Costello covers the
Speaker 2: Jets for the New York Post Al Michael's a little
Speaker 2: later on Kyle Brandt, Good Morning Football, and any suggestions
Speaker 2: on can you remember a higher high or that eventually
Speaker 2: led to a low or low than what we saw
Speaker 2: last night in the span of thirty minutes. The span
Speaker 2: of thirty minutes, Rogers running onto the field. Everybody is pumped.
Speaker 2: You got the spotlight on him. It's the anniversary of
Speaker 2: nine to eleven. And then four plays in, it's over.
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Speaker 2: you can think of a higher high, lower low in
Speaker 2: the span of thirty minutes that rivals what happened last night.
Speaker 2: I'm all ears because I don't remember in forty years
Speaker 2: of covering sports where you had a moment where Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers leads the team out the American Flag Anniversary at
Speaker 2: nine to eleven. That place is pumped. We've had all
Speaker 2: the build up, You're playing the bills, and four plays in,
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is done. Brian Costello covers the Jets for
Speaker 2: the New York Post and he joins his snow. When
Speaker 2: did you know that this was probably the end for
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 3: Brian probably Dan when they brought the cart to take
Speaker 3: him from the medical tent to the locker room, which
Speaker 3: is about twenty five to thirty yards, So that tells
Speaker 3: you he couldn't walk that distance. You don't usually see
Speaker 3: them cart, you know, you see guys could cart off
Speaker 3: the field. You don't usually see the cart to the
Speaker 3: medical tent. So once that happens, you know, I thought
Speaker 3: it was bad.
Speaker 2: How would you describe the atmosphere prior to that.
Speaker 5: Oh, it was electric. I mean it was incredible.
Speaker 3: I can't remember a Jets game ever having an atmosphere
Speaker 3: like that before the game.
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe Rex Ryan's.
Speaker 3: First game against the Patriots at Giant Stadium, but nothing
Speaker 3: at MetLife was like that. It was you know, they
Speaker 3: the Jets did a great job with the lights were out.
Speaker 3: They had all these day. Everyone had a bracelet on
Speaker 3: that lit up and the place method man was reducing
Speaker 3: them and they call her coming out with the American flag.
Speaker 5: I mean it was crazy. It was a really electric atmosphere.
Speaker 2: Any news this morning, any updates, No.
Speaker 5: Nothing yet.
Speaker 3: He's having an MRI. I'm not sure what time. I'm
Speaker 3: sure we'll find out later this morning. But I mean
Speaker 3: they there's not much hope here.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: My understanding is the doctor feels your ankle and they
Speaker 3: can tell if the Achilles is intact, and this is
Speaker 3: just kind of a formality to make sure. But so
Speaker 3: I don't think there's much hope for anything here. But
Speaker 3: we'll probably find out later this morning for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, what are the options as the Jets move forward?
Speaker 3: Well, I think Zach Wilson is you know, he's the
Speaker 3: guy right now They've got a game in Dallas on Sunday.
Speaker 3: There's nothing they can do right now. So he's the guy.
Speaker 3: And look, they've been building towards Zach Wilson having a
Speaker 3: second act. I don't think they ever thought it was
Speaker 3: going to come now, but this is what they've been
Speaker 3: working on. They decided not to get rid of him
Speaker 3: this offseason, kind of keep him and try to rebuild
Speaker 3: this confidence, have Rogers work with him.
Speaker 5: So he's the guy for now.
Speaker 3: I think they'll see if they can win some games
Speaker 3: riding their defense, in their running game and managing around him,
Speaker 3: sort of like what they did last year in the
Speaker 3: middle of the year, and then if, if, you know,
Speaker 3: if it's not looking good, maybe then they explore other options.
Speaker 3: But right now, I think this is the Zach Wilson Show.
Speaker 2: Okay, do you place a call to Tom Brady?
Speaker 5: I guess.
Speaker 3: I guess he called Don Yeue's agent, and see, I
Speaker 3: think it's a really big long shot. I mean, I
Speaker 3: can't even fathom how you'd make that work salary wise,
Speaker 3: how you'd meet.
Speaker 5: You know, with the salary cap.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the quarterbacks are not coming for six
Speaker 3: million dollars, right Tom Brady's gonna want a good amount
Speaker 3: of money, and you'd have to completely just strip down
Speaker 3: the offense and rebuild it. You know that he doesn't
Speaker 3: run the same offense as Aaron Rodgers, so I think
Speaker 3: that's a pipe dream. But yeah, I mean, I guess,
Speaker 3: I guess you could see if he's he's interested.
Speaker 2: I wonder did the Jets know what they have in
Speaker 2: Jack Wilson.
Speaker 5: No, they don't.
Speaker 3: I think there's fingers crossed and there's some hope, and
Speaker 3: I do think he handled all this pretty well over
Speaker 3: the last eight months. You know, he lost his job
Speaker 3: and he embraced it, and he seems to have a
Speaker 3: good attitude. And you know, he did some okay things
Speaker 3: during the preseason, but nothing that tells you, okay, he's
Speaker 3: ready to be a different quarterback right now. You know,
Speaker 3: I think, I think you're going to see them manage
Speaker 3: around him.
Speaker 5: Dan. I thought we saw that in the fourth quarter
Speaker 5: last night, at the end of the game.
Speaker 3: You know, maybe you take a shot to the end
Speaker 3: zone there and said, when you're set up for that
Speaker 3: last field goal, no shots to the end zone. It
Speaker 3: was handoff, handoff, handoff, handoff, handoff. They were not letting
Speaker 3: him throw the ball. So you know, if you remember
Speaker 3: last year when the Jets got hot in October, that
Speaker 3: Zach Wilson was the quarterback and they figured out a
Speaker 3: way to win, and they rode their defense and they
Speaker 3: rode Breese Hall. And I think they're going to try
Speaker 3: to do that again and that will work for some
Speaker 3: of the time, and there's gonna be some games where
Speaker 3: it will.
Speaker 5: Not work at all. And Dallas.
Speaker 3: If Dallas plays like they did against the Giants this
Speaker 3: past week, this week, this could be a tough one.
Speaker 3: And you know, the Jets are going to strugg playing
Speaker 3: from behind. That's where the problem is going to be.
Speaker 3: And that's what Aaron Rodgers was supposed to solve, was
Speaker 3: they weren't going to be behind number one, and then
Speaker 3: they always felt like they were going to be in
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5: With Aaron Rodgers, you're not gonna feel like that was Zach.
Speaker 2: Wilson who had a worst weekend the Giants of the Jets.
Speaker 3: Who I'd say the Jets, I mean, because look, the
Speaker 3: Giants can say, oh, it's one week.
Speaker 5: We're moving on. You know, it's a long season. You
Speaker 5: don't overreact to a week one.
Speaker 3: I mean, Dan everyone saw this publicly. You watched Hard Dots.
Speaker 3: This entire organization was built around Aaron Rodgers this season.
Speaker 5: The whole thing.
Speaker 3: The defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrick sat there in the first
Speaker 3: episode is saying, this is our quarterback. We can win
Speaker 3: with this guy, right, And everything was about Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: and that was gone in work plays. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: it's hard to even wrap my brain around it right now.
Speaker 3: And I've been around the Jets a long time. I've
Speaker 3: seen a lot of bad Jets and things, but this
Speaker 3: one is tough to comprehend right now.
Speaker 2: This is why the Jets can't have nice things.
Speaker 3: B I mean, it's really just unbelievable Dan, And I
Speaker 3: think Jets fans would probably just drive me as pessimistic
Speaker 3: about the Jets. But even I could never have foreseen
Speaker 3: four plays and going like this.
Speaker 5: It's just incredible.
Speaker 2: And you know what, he was under duress in three
Speaker 2: of those four plays. Yeah, you know, Rech Hall had
Speaker 2: a really nice run. But I mean I was worried
Speaker 2: right away when I'm going, wait, they're just starting and
Speaker 2: they're putting pressure on him, and yeah, even when he
Speaker 2: got sacked, I'm like, did anybody block anybody on that play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not Look Dan, the offensive line was a
Speaker 3: concern all through training camp. You know, we wrote about it,
Speaker 3: we talked about it. It's hard for me to pin
Speaker 3: this completely on them the way it was explaining to me.
Speaker 3: That play was supposed to be a quick pass. If
Speaker 3: you watch Dwayne Brown the left tackle, he dives at
Speaker 3: Leonard Floyd's legs, it was a cup lock. Usually that's
Speaker 3: a cuplock quick pass. He didn't execute the cup lock.
Speaker 3: He didn't knock the guy to the ground, so he
Speaker 3: failed in that aspect. But it seemed like Rogers maybe
Speaker 3: I don't have the coverage forces, but held on the
Speaker 3: ball a little bit, and then you know, it's just
Speaker 3: you know, you should be able to give up a
Speaker 3: sack and not expect to lose your quarterback for the season.
Speaker 5: It's just incredible.
Speaker 2: Will they move to natural grass next year?
Speaker 5: That's a great question.
Speaker 3: I just saw DJ Read, their cornerback, just tweeted about it, said,
Speaker 3: you know it's time for natural grass. Randall Cobb was
Speaker 3: pretty vocal in the locker room. I know David Bactiari
Speaker 3: put some stuff out there last.
Speaker 5: Night on social media.
Speaker 3: I mean that I think that's an NFL question more
Speaker 3: than the Jets even right that stadium has a lot
Speaker 3: of use between the two football teams.
Speaker 5: There's concerts there constantly.
Speaker 3: I'm not smart enough about turf and grass to know
Speaker 3: how that works, but I got to think it'd be
Speaker 3: difficult to maintain that field.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: ESPN last night highlighted what the transition that field that
Speaker 3: went under. I think there was concerts there. There was
Speaker 3: sold out concert there Thursday, sold out concert, their Friday
Speaker 3: Giants game, Sunday night, Jets game Monday night. That's an
Speaker 3: incredible amount of use for a field then, and so
Speaker 3: I I'm not sure grass can sustain that, you know,
Speaker 3: So I don't know if they can do that.
Speaker 2: Before I let you go, we're talking to Brian Costello,
Speaker 2: covers the Jets for the New York Post. Just trying
Speaker 2: to figure out the recovery time for Aaron Rodgers, factoring
Speaker 2: in he's going to turn forty in December of coming
Speaker 2: back from an achilles. Have you had any information on that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little bit. I think you know. The way
Speaker 5: I understand this is surgery is immediate. It'll be like
Speaker 5: this week. It's not.
Speaker 3: It's not like an acl where you take some time
Speaker 3: before the surgery. So I think his surgery, I think
Speaker 3: he'd be able to probably throw sometime in the spring,
Speaker 3: and then you know, he'd be able to come back.
Speaker 3: I think next season's week one, so I think it's
Speaker 3: about it. You know, it's about a year usually they
Speaker 3: come back. The question is Dan, he's gonna be forty
Speaker 3: years old in December. It's a tough rehab, and does
Speaker 3: he want to Is he gonna want to undergo that rehab?
Speaker 5: You know, you got to think is he going to
Speaker 5: not want to go out like this?
Speaker 3: This is a tough way. He's, you know, obviously a
Speaker 3: very prideful guy. I got to think he he's not
Speaker 3: gonna want the end of his career to be like this.
Speaker 3: But it's a hard road back.
Speaker 2: I know you're busy. Thanks for joining us, Brian, Thanks Dan.
Speaker 2: Brian Costello, New York Post beat writer for the Jets. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you got to factor that in the age and then
Speaker 2: do you want to go through this? You don't want
Speaker 2: to go out this way, but do you want to
Speaker 2: put in all that time to try to come back
Speaker 2: from something like this?
Speaker 10: Yes, and that they really hit it right there on
Speaker 10: the head with the stadium turf versus grass thing. It's
Speaker 10: the problem is grass is better for the players, but
Speaker 10: bad for business. Business around the game. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 10: and unfortunately, you know, like Bruce Springsteen coming to town
Speaker 10: once a year is going to be more important than
Speaker 10: Aaron Rodgers staying healthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's bizarre as that sounds. A couple of phone
Speaker 2: calls in here, Paul and Iowa, Good morning, Paul, woulds
Speaker 2: on your mind?
Speaker 15: Hey Dan, this reminds me of when I was in
Speaker 15: high school track. We had a coach in his mid
Speaker 15: thirties that thought he could just walk on and play
Speaker 15: pick up ball with does and he popped that thing
Speaker 15: so quick and was on a scooter for the rest
Speaker 15: of the season. I think that the Jets did a
Speaker 15: bad job of not ramping Rogers up at his age.
Speaker 15: He only had eight pass attempts in one game of
Speaker 15: the preseason. He needs to be ready for game speed,
Speaker 15: and they kept him on the sideline too much. He
Speaker 15: wasn't ready for the first real rollout.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, if you look at the play and the
Speaker 2: defender and how he hits Rogers and you could see
Speaker 2: where there's a bend in his leg. I don't think
Speaker 2: that had anything to do about preseason reps and if
Speaker 2: Rogers bawled out last night, I don't think anybody's calling
Speaker 2: said he should have played in the preseason. It's easy
Speaker 2: to say that after the fact. It was just a
Speaker 2: fluke injury, and that's usually what achilles injuries are. Fluke.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 2: Let's see Andrew and Washington. Hi Andrew, what's on your
Speaker 2: mind today?
Speaker 6: Good morning, Dan Dennis. Thanks for taking my call. I
Speaker 6: agree with you fluke injury, but it will take more
Speaker 6: than a fluke for him to come back at his age.
Speaker 6: You know, what is the incentive besides money? He's got
Speaker 6: so many other ventures and interest. I know his competitive
Speaker 6: use is still there, but it takes a lot to
Speaker 6: come back. And then what is he going to accomplish
Speaker 6: in that last year just to go out on his
Speaker 6: own terms? What if that ends up being the worst
Speaker 6: season that he's had in his career and so he
Speaker 6: has to walk away. I just don't see how this
Speaker 6: turns out well for him. It's just so hard to
Speaker 6: come back from an achilles at a young age, let
Speaker 6: alone add about fifteen years to the average age of
Speaker 6: an NFL player. So I agree with you. I'd also
Speaker 6: have a Tuesday trivia question for the room. All right,
Speaker 6: all right? Besides Patrick Peterson in twenty eleven and Xavier
Speaker 6: Gibson last night, who's the only other player in NFL
Speaker 6: history to return a punt for a touchdown in overtime?
Speaker 2: Not to Shawn Jackson, now DeShawn Jackson.
Speaker 6: Here's a clue. They played for Kansas City.
Speaker 2: Yes, Pauli Tamrick vanover blue blue whoh nice? Thank you Andrew?
Speaker 2: How about that? That was a Marvin like poll there by, Paula, I.
Speaker 4: Was thinking Dante Hall, who I was cutting between vanners deeper.
Speaker 2: Cut, Yeah, Seth and Iowa Hi, Seth was on your
Speaker 2: mind today?
Speaker 12: Hey Dan?
Speaker 16: First off, I missed this the last few times that
Speaker 16: called six six to eighty, and I got a couple
Speaker 16: highest size, lowest lows and then a dark horse one too.
Speaker 16: So Steve Bartman would be up there, I mean on
Speaker 16: the Virgil winning it and then Moist Salu, Alexandallas all
Speaker 16: that happened. Then okay, does Bryant the catch that wasn't
Speaker 16: a catch, and then anytime that you compliment Fritzy and
Speaker 16: then he blows it immediately.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Seth.
Speaker 4: Yes, Paul I think it's a little apples and orange
Speaker 4: because there was not an injury. But the twenty eighth
Speaker 4: with the Falcons, you're celebrating that Super Bowl. There's a point,
Speaker 4: I think it's maybe five minutes left in the third quarter.
Speaker 4: You're up twenty eight three, you have a ninety eight
Speaker 4: percent chance of winning. You're starting to plan your head
Speaker 4: around parades and things like that. That that for Falcons fans.
Speaker 4: That has to be similar.
Speaker 2: The highest of highs and then the lowest of blows.
Speaker 4: Apple's and odes to last night but close.
Speaker 8: Yes, Mark, maybe the Carson Wentz ac of Carson Wentz,
Speaker 8: Carson Palmer ACL injury. It was like their first home
Speaker 8: playoff game in forever and early in the first quarter
Speaker 8: he tears his ACL. They were really good that year
Speaker 8: him Osho Sinko. Yeah, man, yeah, not at the Air
Speaker 8: Rodgers level. No, last night was electric.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, time for Red Sox.
Speaker 11: Fans, the ball going through Buckner's legs, they're about to
Speaker 11: finally win the world.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. Highest of pyes, just get a ground out,
Speaker 2: you're good and then you end up. But the lowest
Speaker 2: of lows took a couple of days because they lose
Speaker 2: that game, and then I think I think there was
Speaker 2: a couple of rain out days before they played Game
Speaker 2: seven if I remember. All right, let me take a break.
Speaker 2: More phone calls coming up. Kyle Brant from Good Morning Football,
Speaker 2: who has blown out his achilles and al Michaels, who
Speaker 2: I don't believe has will join us a little bit
Speaker 2: later on Fritzie, could you check if al Michaels has
Speaker 2: ruptured his achilles?
Speaker 5: I will explore that.
Speaker 2: Yes, we're just looking for guests who I've experienced achilles
Speaker 2: injuries here, Kevin Durant, see if he'll join us on
Speaker 2: the program. Who else would anybody? David Beckham, Dan David Beckham? Sure, absolutely,
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Speaker 2: Update the poll results if you can Seaton, yeah, we
Speaker 2: got two of them up.
Speaker 10: All right, the Jets a quarterbacks should stick with what
Speaker 10: they got or search for something new or someone new.
Speaker 10: Excuse me, that's at fifty eight percent find a new quarterback.
Speaker 10: Fifty percent find a new quarterback.
Speaker 4: I got to calm down here for a second. I'm
Speaker 4: not even a Jets fan. You cannot win the Super
Speaker 4: Bowl or probably even get to the playoffs, maybe maybe
Speaker 4: get to the playoffs. With Zach Wilson, you at the
Speaker 4: very least have to bring in a veteran who could
Speaker 4: play decent football on that team. At the very least
Speaker 4: bring in a Colt McCoy or at very least a
Speaker 4: Nick Fole, someone who's a grown up who could avoid
Speaker 4: interceptions and let the rest of the roster do their thing.
Speaker 4: You can't stick.
Speaker 2: Well, he is well considering, you know, Zach Wilson's like,
Speaker 2: what twenty two or twenty three, you'd be bringing a
Speaker 2: grown up in who would be like thirty three, and I.
Speaker 4: Mean grown up in the football sense, a guy who
Speaker 4: knows his role, Like if you brought in let's say
Speaker 4: you brought in Nick falls. Nick Foles knows I'm here
Speaker 4: for four months and I can maybe pick up a
Speaker 4: second Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 2: I think the word for that is veteran. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's another thing. Zach Wilson's not a rookie coach.
Speaker 2: You're gonna go out and sign a grown up, just
Speaker 2: big boys, big boy table.
Speaker 4: It's a must sign situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The roster. The roster has its flaws. We know
Speaker 2: that we knew it was going to be their offensive line.
Speaker 2: So you had a soon to be forty year old quarterback,
Speaker 2: You have a thirty eight year old tackle in Dwayne Brown.
Speaker 2: You got Mackay Beckton, who hasn't lived up to his
Speaker 2: draft hype, and then you know Rogers back there. There
Speaker 2: were a couple of passes early where it looked like
Speaker 2: the offensive linemen were trying to cut the defensive lineman.
Speaker 2: You know, just a quick pass and twice, you know,
Speaker 2: Rogers almost got sacked one time because he didn't throw
Speaker 2: the pass, and then the other time he did get sacked,
Speaker 2: and that was supposed to be a quick pass. So
Speaker 2: you got everything that you think you need to be
Speaker 2: a championship caliber team. Go back to last year, they
Speaker 2: lost their last six games. They were going to be
Speaker 2: a playoff team. It's hard to lose six in a row,
Speaker 2: and they did. But as far as moving forward, unless
Speaker 2: somebody just falls into your lap and you go, we
Speaker 2: can't pass up this opportunity. I think you got to,
Speaker 2: you know, go to war with Zach Wilson. I think
Speaker 2: you got to. Now you have to manage a game
Speaker 2: with him? For him, where's Aaron Rodgers? You just let
Speaker 2: him go? This is where you get a defensive minded
Speaker 2: coach who goes you take care of the offense. I'm
Speaker 2: over here with the defense and special teams. That's not
Speaker 2: the case anymore.
Speaker 8: Yes, Mark, can Caleb Way have transferre from USC to
Speaker 8: the Jets?
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay? Could he leave early? No he can't, No,
Speaker 2: he can't.
Speaker 8: Never mind.
Speaker 2: Okay, Thanks was Zach? Now? Thank you? Lucas in Texas,
Speaker 2: Good morning, Luke. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 13: Hey Dan? A couple of quick things and then a
Speaker 13: potential poll question for you. I swore my cough probably
Speaker 13: a year a half year and a half ago, and
Speaker 13: you're right, it's like you get kicked. I mean like
Speaker 13: my son was throwing rocks nearby and my buddy hit
Speaker 13: me in the leg with a rock. It's a surreal
Speaker 13: feelings and maybe a closely related high and immediate low
Speaker 13: is probably tied to last night's game after hard knocks
Speaker 13: and everything. I would say everyone's view of Zach Wilson
Speaker 13: as a backup versus everyone's view of Zach Wilson at
Speaker 13: the start. That's a pretty big high and low right there.
Speaker 13: Everyone thought really positive about him going through hard knocks,
Speaker 13: but not now when it's actually on him to show up.
Speaker 13: But hey, a potential whole question for you is I'm
Speaker 13: gonna stew negatives in honor of Polly. Who's gotta Who's gotta?
Speaker 13: Which fan base has a worse outlook for the season,
Speaker 13: The Giants of the Jets.
Speaker 2: I would say the Jets, because they, you know, winner lose,
Speaker 2: You had Aaron Rodgers as your quarterback, and you might
Speaker 2: go down in flames at some point during the season.
Speaker 2: The Giants looked awful, but their expectation level was it
Speaker 2: anywhere near what the Jets was. The Giants, it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: all right, you know, maybe we get back in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: The Jets were thinking super Bowl. Therefore, being a Jets
Speaker 2: fan today, you're gonna look out every single game. Now,
Speaker 2: look out on the field watch on TV and go,
Speaker 2: what if what if the Giants? You're not you might
Speaker 2: go what if we didn't sign Danny Dimes? You know, maybe,
Speaker 2: but you know, the expectation level was certainly not there.
Speaker 2: Doug in North Carolina, Good morning, Doug. What's on your mind?
Speaker 12: Well, Dan, I'm going to switch scars and talk about
Speaker 12: something really positive and pleasant. I tried to get through yesterday.
Speaker 12: It's hard to get through on a Monday. But did
Speaker 12: you hear about this forty seven yard touchdown in the
Speaker 12: Michigan game. No, this is the best thing that happened
Speaker 12: in sports all week. There was a young gentleman, a
Speaker 12: defensive end for UNLV, who passed away in February. His name,
Speaker 12: I believe is pronounced Ryan Keeler. He grew up with
Speaker 12: the Michigan quarterback JJ McCarthy. They've known each other since
Speaker 12: he was seven years old. They were high school football players.
Speaker 12: This is going to be a huge game where both
Speaker 12: of these guys were going to be able to celebrate.
Speaker 12: And while the announcers are telling this story, and they
Speaker 12: tell that they mentioned the fact that McCarthy wrote forty
Speaker 12: seven on his hand. While they're telling this story, McCarthy
Speaker 12: drops back for pass, throws it to a wide receiver
Speaker 12: who scampers into the end zone, and you hear Brad
Speaker 12: Nessler almost in tera saying, with forty seven on his hand,
Speaker 12: he just threw a forty seven yard touchdown. It is
Speaker 12: the most moving thing I've seen. It's almost like a
Speaker 12: scene out of a movie. If you haven't had a
Speaker 12: chance to watch it, it's all over. Nessler and Gary
Speaker 12: Danielson did the game. It was far and away the
Speaker 12: best thing that happened this weekend.
Speaker 2: All thank you, thank you, Joan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, I have another idea for the Jets. I
Speaker 4: mean that runs past you.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 4: Remember Taylor Heineke, the backup. He's now a backup with Atlanta.
Speaker 4: You know he's what is he about? Twenty seven years old,
Speaker 4: twenty nine years old, played pretty well for Washington with
Speaker 4: a decent team around him. If you're Atlanta, do you say, well,
Speaker 4: Desmond Ritters are our starter, our future. Let's let's bring
Speaker 4: up the Jets and see you can get a third
Speaker 4: round pick for our guy who's not supposed to play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's during the season. That's the hard part.
Speaker 2: You got to go in and learn this offense. This
Speaker 2: is Aaron Rodgers offense, and I don't know how many
Speaker 2: quarterbacks around the NFL have an offense that's similar with
Speaker 2: you know, same kind of play calling, cadence, timing, all
Speaker 2: of those things. I think that's that's a tricky part
Speaker 2: for anybody. Zach Wilson has at least been in these meetings,
Speaker 2: has at least run these plays. But I mean, I
Speaker 2: like gritty, gutty Taylor Heineke. I do, But I don't
Speaker 2: know if I go to if I'm the Jets and
Speaker 2: I go that, no need to panic, We're going to
Speaker 2: bring in Taylor Heineke. We're all good, yes, Mark.
Speaker 8: If Zach Wilson wins next week at the Cowboys, oh
Speaker 8: my goodness, do we put all this to bed.
Speaker 2: It depends on how they win. If they run the football,
Speaker 2: which I would think they'll probably run the ball thirty
Speaker 2: five forty times against the Cowboys, and they play good defense,
Speaker 2: I don't know if we'll go yep, they have solved
Speaker 2: all their quarterbacking issues. One hour in the books. Kyle Brandt,
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