Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black
Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio in partnership with Showtime. M
Speaker 1: h m hm, welcome back All the Smoke. Jack. We're
Speaker 1: working back to back. They got us working this year.
Speaker 1: We're back to back weeks in the studio. I love it.
Speaker 1: Man to whom much is given, much is required and
Speaker 1: the show giving us a list something, Yes, sir, well
Speaker 1: introduce it to your man. Y'all, y'all go way back.
Speaker 1: So my brother, yeah, we go way back. He think
Speaker 1: he's nicer than me. And basketball always have been, uh
Speaker 1: for some reason, and that's always been the problem. But
Speaker 1: my dog, you know what I'm saying, My dog, dog,
Speaker 1: Dog dog. You know what I'm saying with you say
Speaker 1: at Steve Jack about the pack to change in the building. Yes,
Speaker 1: appreciate your time, Bro. What's up? Man? Uh? Go ahead, Jack?
Speaker 1: Start the show off? Who's gonna start with this? First off?
Speaker 1: You see a video Chick going ham and Michael Jackson
Speaker 1: or what you was thinking? What's going on through your
Speaker 1: mind when you're looking at it? I mean she was
Speaker 1: having it. She was obviously having a good time. I
Speaker 1: was at the house game with one of my homeboys
Speaker 1: because my kids can come, my wife can come. So
Speaker 1: I took one of my partners, um, and she had
Speaker 1: been asking him, um, you know, you know, to take
Speaker 1: pictures with me. So I eventually took pictures with her.
Speaker 1: And then you know, they always have something going on
Speaker 1: during time out, so half time to keep the fans,
Speaker 1: you know, motivated, and she was just really going in.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm not a part of the viral
Speaker 1: era or stuff for that of virus. Like I guess
Speaker 1: I'm starting to learn what what viral is because I work.
Speaker 1: I woke up to it being on many blogs inside,
Speaker 1: so it was just it was a real organic You
Speaker 1: just dropped the million dogs worth the Game single. What's
Speaker 1: coming up after that? Million dolls worth a Game as
Speaker 1: a single coming off my album called Dope Don't Sell Itself.
Speaker 1: I'm dropping another video in the next week or so.
Speaker 1: It's called pop Music featuring um Beat, King and money Bag.
Speaker 1: And then I shot a video last night to the
Speaker 1: song I have called Kingpin Ghostwriter featuring Little Baby. And
Speaker 1: the idea behind that is how you always got those
Speaker 1: like you know, you got very influential people in your
Speaker 1: neighborhood who don't wrap, who be just like sometimes you
Speaker 1: learn stuff from and you get ideas from. For me,
Speaker 1: it was people that were that, you know, hustle and
Speaker 1: we're like king pins and man, they would just say
Speaker 1: a little slick lines and you know, they would stay
Speaker 1: with me forever. So it just was a situation where
Speaker 1: I tiled the song keeping ghost writer because like, if
Speaker 1: you hung around hustas, you picked up some of that stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, I definitely did. Ain't that slick to it?
Speaker 1: Can all I'm telling College Park, Atlanta, Georgia, talk to
Speaker 1: us about your upbringing to some of the ups and
Speaker 1: downs of you growing up. Well, we all had ups
Speaker 1: and downs. Man. I realized that, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: called life. That's what life is. You're gonna have like
Speaker 1: a winning streak, and then you're gonna feel like you
Speaker 1: like cursed. You're gonna feel like you can't do nothing right,
Speaker 1: and then it's gonna be like this little yellow area
Speaker 1: or the middle area of life where it's either like
Speaker 1: you know, it's some good and some bad. I remember
Speaker 1: when we were in this stuff is just popping up
Speaker 1: and we were trapping. Me and my my brother Dollar,
Speaker 1: who was in players. So we used to be trapping together,
Speaker 1: right it was just like this might be ninth grade,
Speaker 1: Tim Craig. We used to be walking to these apartments
Speaker 1: and I wore a jury back then, right, look little
Speaker 1: tracks and stuff, and um, you know, Dolly used to
Speaker 1: be saying, bro, you're gonna get us in trouble. You
Speaker 1: donna get us bust you keep wearing these chains to
Speaker 1: these people houses like he used to be like, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, get on me, you know about
Speaker 1: being that type of hustler. And then you know, over time,
Speaker 1: you know, I grew or started moving a little bit differently.
Speaker 1: But you know, for the most part, man, I had
Speaker 1: I had real patterns in my life where I just
Speaker 1: couldn't It felt like I couldn't do nothing right. It
Speaker 1: felt like I just had something kind of you know
Speaker 1: how they said in the country, like a some kind
Speaker 1: of juji on me. Then I then I have, you know,
Speaker 1: years to where it seemed like I can't do nothing wrong.
Speaker 1: And you know, coming up in College Park early on
Speaker 1: with some of the years, I felt like I couldn't
Speaker 1: do some things right. I was trying to, um, you know,
Speaker 1: bring my basketball thing and fruition, but I didn't put
Speaker 1: time and effort. I think for me, I was blessed
Speaker 1: with a talent, like God gave me a certain talent.
Speaker 1: But when God gives you a talent and you work
Speaker 1: on the talent, I think that makes you a superstar.
Speaker 1: That says you're apart from everybody else. I was just
Speaker 1: someone that was naturally tall, um, and I was coordinated.
Speaker 1: So I just I never looked like I wasn't a part.
Speaker 1: I could really do anything. But I can honestly say
Speaker 1: that if it wasn't mandatory that i'd be at practice
Speaker 1: sometimes I would be trapping. I wouldn't be be doing that.
Speaker 1: So deep down in my heart, and I can tell
Speaker 1: other people that want to do something, deep down in
Speaker 1: my heart, I knew I wasn't going to the NBA.
Speaker 1: I just didn't know any other answer to say when
Speaker 1: the teacher asked me what I wanted to be to
Speaker 1: grow up, because I knew I wasn't gonna never dry
Speaker 1: like getting traffic and go to work at eight or
Speaker 1: nine in the morning and come home and be a
Speaker 1: nine if I like, I knew that wasn't you know,
Speaker 1: in my in my in my cards, I knew I
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna never get a job, so um, you know,
Speaker 1: early on. I had some run ins with the law.
Speaker 1: I got, you know, I got jammed up my sophomore
Speaker 1: year for a possession of cocaine charge and I got
Speaker 1: locked up, you know in my high school. UM. At
Speaker 1: this time, I wasn't even getting I wasn't even getting
Speaker 1: letters from colleges or anything. I just was just like
Speaker 1: a well known person in the community. And then I
Speaker 1: come back to school. I do good. My eleventh grade year,
Speaker 1: I go to some individual camps, UM, and then I
Speaker 1: started getting mail, and then I, uh, I get it
Speaker 1: inconcentrated my twelfth grade year, like right before I took
Speaker 1: my S A T S. And this was some of
Speaker 1: the stuff I talked about about, Like this seemed like
Speaker 1: I couldn't do nothing right because I was I never
Speaker 1: made a sea in high school, and I didn't take
Speaker 1: the s A T uh Well. I felt like I
Speaker 1: only needed to take it one time. I didn't have
Speaker 1: to like do these practice tests that they used to
Speaker 1: require or ask people to do, because had um well
Speaker 1: test taking skills. But I got locked up on a
Speaker 1: Friday and Mr s A T that was coming up
Speaker 1: on a Saturday, and that kind of changed my whole
Speaker 1: life to where I am now, which is the reason
Speaker 1: why I can say that if you live long enough
Speaker 1: and stay out of jail, out of prison, and God
Speaker 1: could just have so many things for you, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I even got a partner whose
Speaker 1: son got locked up in college and got out, and
Speaker 1: I just was like, man, you know, I know it
Speaker 1: sounds like some bullshit, but just like it happened to
Speaker 1: me too, like even before college, and like look at
Speaker 1: me now. It makes me a super It makes me
Speaker 1: like a better person, a better family man. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't get upset about the little things. I don't
Speaker 1: want to jeopardize my freedom for anything, because I did
Speaker 1: at such a young age that I you know, I
Speaker 1: see the police and I'm not scared of him. I
Speaker 1: just decided just to go the other way. I just
Speaker 1: decided just to like, you know, I'm not really into
Speaker 1: breaking the law no more. I'll have no need to.
Speaker 1: So um, that's kind of like my pattern. I had
Speaker 1: some ups and downs, which we all do, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And most people don't care. Some of
Speaker 1: your close ones you do, but most people don't care.
Speaker 1: Is just like how you end up. That's like the
Speaker 1: receipt you get from your problem. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: You're type it in and then your receipt your read out.
Speaker 1: It's just like how you are, your characteristics. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We grew up, you became a man
Speaker 1: that you are with people. People relate you to being
Speaker 1: like a solid person, like a real brotherhood type of person.
Speaker 1: That's show. That's show characteristics. They know. Like, man, people
Speaker 1: know Jake, like if you're a friend, if they're you're
Speaker 1: a friend of them. Man, you'll do anything but them people. Man,
Speaker 1: whether you got like people know that. I'm sure Mad
Speaker 1: can say that. I can say that. So and you know,
Speaker 1: we saw some patterns. All of us had some patterns.
Speaker 1: Bro and now we're just like no better, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So despite all that, you ended up
Speaker 1: going to Alabama State scholarship. Who care for a couple
Speaker 1: of years, what was college basketball life for you? Let
Speaker 1: me see? Okay, so this is another thing that's this
Speaker 1: is another era in my life. This is crazy, right,
Speaker 1: So I uh, you know it's coach cars from you know,
Speaker 1: Alabama State black coach. Oh my god, coach Oliver. He's
Speaker 1: passed away now. But it was him, a couple of
Speaker 1: the coaches, I think all of them was the head coach,
Speaker 1: but like an assistant coach called me, and I already
Speaker 1: had some friends that went to Alabama State because it
Speaker 1: was probably like two hours away from Atlanta, was like
Speaker 1: a straight shot, you know what I'm saying. And I
Speaker 1: have friends down there. And so this guy calls me.
Speaker 1: He says, um um, you know, um Taiheed, this is
Speaker 1: coach from such and such a you know I heard
Speaker 1: about you know what happened. You know, I want to
Speaker 1: offer you a full ride, you know, scholarship. Would you
Speaker 1: like to come and visit the school? And so I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I mean, yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: have anything to lose, I come visiting. You know, at
Speaker 1: this time, they in the swack, which is still d One,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm like learning about
Speaker 1: my d ones and just really trying to because it's
Speaker 1: it's it almost was kind of a pride issue, but
Speaker 1: it really, you know, wasn't but it was kind of
Speaker 1: a pride issue. And I go to campus. I see
Speaker 1: all these beautiful black people. I see the huge like
Speaker 1: acadon where they're just like it wasn't like what I
Speaker 1: was thinking, like a small gym or nothing. They heard
Speaker 1: really had like thirteen thousand seas and then you know,
Speaker 1: and showed me these new dorms and I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this is not bad, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: I took him up on an opportunity to him, Bro,
Speaker 1: as soon as I get down there, this is no
Speaker 1: cap As soon as I get down there, man, I
Speaker 1: may be practiced for these guys. Maybe one time they
Speaker 1: get fired. And then they bring in some new coach
Speaker 1: that brought in five players with him, and I can
Speaker 1: literally remember my mind this coach walking in um and
Speaker 1: he's probably still alive right now. And uh, I remember
Speaker 1: him walking in with like five players, a couple of
Speaker 1: which I'm still cool, and I remember just my whole,
Speaker 1: my demeanor. I just remember me not even feeling the
Speaker 1: same about basketball no more, because even at this time,
Speaker 1: I knew that if a guy brought somebody with with him,
Speaker 1: he was locked in. Yeah, And then it was like
Speaker 1: his I mean like he walked in, it was like
Speaker 1: other people with him. I'm like, he's not coaches, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so I come from an
Speaker 1: area where I've been playing basketball since I was seven
Speaker 1: years old, start and doing my thing. And then I
Speaker 1: come down here and I got friends at the game
Speaker 1: talking about put me in, and I'm just not even
Speaker 1: feeling that because I'm I'm nice. Yeah, I'm on the
Speaker 1: second team in practice and I'm doing stuff. But and then,
Speaker 1: so I've been in two different situations in high school.
Speaker 1: I kind of went through this a little bit. But
Speaker 1: I can honestly say I wasn't ready to start varsity
Speaker 1: in the temb grade because it was like a legit
Speaker 1: couple people. But it was a situation where this kind
Speaker 1: of coach kind of took seniority over skill set sometimes
Speaker 1: if you've ever been in there, like he's been here
Speaker 1: longer than you or I've been. It was almost like that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it kind of started like, because I'm being practiced,
Speaker 1: I might you know, dunk on whoever this person is
Speaker 1: supposed to be and then practice the next you know,
Speaker 1: the game nything, I might not, like, you know, even
Speaker 1: have to take a shower out of the game because
Speaker 1: I ain't even only then I'm just woman up. So
Speaker 1: I just was not fucking with that anymore. My my
Speaker 1: energy started just like not being about the game Honestly, bro,
Speaker 1: I just want to play at murals, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They'd be balling it be guys that could
Speaker 1: play in the you know, college out like man, I
Speaker 1: kind of want to just do some other ship. I
Speaker 1: want to get out of this. And I was naturally smart,
Speaker 1: and even though I had a scholarship, I knew I
Speaker 1: could get through school. So um, I lost the love
Speaker 1: for it. And I even was, I still wasn't the
Speaker 1: trap right there because I was still full time hustling.
Speaker 1: I still was moving bags and all of that. But
Speaker 1: I didn't have that love like hooping anymore after that scenario.
Speaker 1: Tell me how you and Jack cross pass. Jack played
Speaker 1: for the Hawks. Old Jack played for the Hawks. Man
Speaker 1: Jake played for the Atlanta Hawks. I've always been I'm
Speaker 1: from Atlantis, so I've always been a Elanta Hawks fan.
Speaker 1: I've always been a Lakers fan because my daddy, Um,
Speaker 1: I thought Magic Johnson was the best point guard ever
Speaker 1: because he was six nine all the time when everybody
Speaker 1: was like a small guard, you know, and just be
Speaker 1: at a six nine point guard, which he just you know,
Speaker 1: kind of wanted for me, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: be tall, but so I've always been a Lakers fan
Speaker 1: talking about um, you know, the Van Exel. I can
Speaker 1: go from then before Kobe. I want people think it's
Speaker 1: because Lebron is my friend that I'm a Lakers fan.
Speaker 1: I can go, I want to go. I can go back, Eddie,
Speaker 1: I can go back. I mean when Kobe missed two
Speaker 1: or three threes in a row, you know what I'm saying, Well,
Speaker 1: he as a young cat getting in and just pushing
Speaker 1: through that. So those are my two teams, the Hawks
Speaker 1: and then Jack was just somebody that was very transparent,
Speaker 1: somebody that was super relatable. Um, some of these and
Speaker 1: that's what Lebron is to our code. She's so relatable. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, he's in the fact of his made back
Speaker 1: playing out music. You know, like, man, you know Jordan
Speaker 1: is the is the goal, but he you know, this
Speaker 1: type of thing like that. Yeah, So it's just a
Speaker 1: different thing. Like when you came came through the city,
Speaker 1: we could see you, we can touch you out. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He wasn't too good, you know,
Speaker 1: oh three, I was hustling, but I wasn't rich. You know,
Speaker 1: bited me over. So we built up. Man, if it's
Speaker 1: been a three man. It's almost you know, twenty years.
Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy. He helped me down the whole time,
Speaker 1: talk about you know what it meant for you and
Speaker 1: and and starting your other friendship and maintaining it for
Speaker 1: so long. I mean, it's that's solid man. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not too many people that that you come across,
Speaker 1: that you meet, you know, on your journey. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, That that that you want to see
Speaker 1: when you know what I'm saying. I was, I remember
Speaker 1: being in the clubs, you know, and it's still clubs
Speaker 1: with two when he premium songs. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying back then. So what I'm saying from duffer Back
Speaker 1: boys on you know all you made myself told him
Speaker 1: because I was an honorary duffer Back boy. I was
Speaker 1: with the nigga so much, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: shout out the cabin. But uh, that's just my brother man.
Speaker 1: Like I said, you don't you beat a lot of people,
Speaker 1: but you don't. You don't become brothers with a lot
Speaker 1: of people. You know what I'm saying. You say, what's up?
Speaker 1: That's my dog? I love you, bro, But like it's
Speaker 1: dere for with me and him, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like it was very few people in my wed, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He took a time about this
Speaker 1: big schedule a kind of my wed. And so that
Speaker 1: tells you the relationship between man. Where did the love
Speaker 1: for music come from? Who did you adalyize growing up?
Speaker 1: Did it run in the family? All right? My daddy
Speaker 1: used to look, he was somebody that kept the radio
Speaker 1: on all you know, all night, one of those people
Speaker 1: that kind of kept the clock radio on just all
Speaker 1: night and he had, you know, thousands of vinyls and
Speaker 1: you know, play the type of music. But honestly, I
Speaker 1: think music. I mean, you had to come to me
Speaker 1: like some kind of way. But I used to I
Speaker 1: was a kid that was in the like in the
Speaker 1: trap and I was a kid in the back of
Speaker 1: the school bus that just freestyle when people with beat
Speaker 1: box of knock on something. Um. When I was in
Speaker 1: this little car wash um, I used to be trappling
Speaker 1: in these older guys. UM used to come up and
Speaker 1: they and they were like really trying to like joke
Speaker 1: me a little bit. They'd be like, yo, yo six
Speaker 1: nine yo, get your your you'll come up with him,
Speaker 1: you know, bust some freestyles like you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying and like no, I just walking around. Then one
Speaker 1: of the guys said, man, you need to come to
Speaker 1: the studio one day. Man, you need to record you know,
Speaker 1: some of this stuff. And you know, Miken honestly say,
Speaker 1: this was the very um late nineties, early two thousands,
Speaker 1: and I haven't you know, I haven't. I've never written
Speaker 1: a song. Everything has just been just straight off the top,
Speaker 1: and uh, they kind of steering me into this direction.
Speaker 1: And one of the first, maybe the second songs I
Speaker 1: recorded I have. I had got a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of good feedback from just like people who didn't
Speaker 1: expect me to produced this kind of material, really good feedback,
Speaker 1: like genuine like bro, it's pretty good, damn you know.
Speaker 1: And I remember saying like, man, I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do this, Like it wasn't hard for me to be
Speaker 1: like I think this is And so the dream started
Speaker 1: becoming something that was real for me. Play a circle,
Speaker 1: shout out Dollars, my partner. I met Dollar, Do you
Speaker 1: how did that come about? Me and Dollars stayed in
Speaker 1: the same apartment as we tried in the same apartments.
Speaker 1: When I left, I really like people don't know this.
Speaker 1: I'm really like from Decata up to eighth grade. I
Speaker 1: left Decatur in the eighth grade. I want to really
Speaker 1: my nine grade year and I moved to College Park
Speaker 1: and I was my mom was staying in College partment
Speaker 1: and her weren't staying together. I was staying with my
Speaker 1: cousins Indicator and like me and like me and Gucci
Speaker 1: stayed down the street from each other, men walk and
Speaker 1: and a couple of other people. So I was Indicator
Speaker 1: and uh, staying with my cousin just trapping like these
Speaker 1: little fifty dollar slabs. And then my mom was staying
Speaker 1: on the street called Riverdale Road, and at the time,
Speaker 1: it just sounded like it was a bunch of white
Speaker 1: people on that street to me, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Riverdale Road, and it was like a one bedroom apartment,
Speaker 1: and my cousin was working. She was working at like
Speaker 1: I placed it. So something dealing with with with electronics
Speaker 1: or something. Shoe be going our time, so I'll be
Speaker 1: in the house, you know, trapping, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you know, fucking just doing everything I wanted to do.
Speaker 1: And then eventually, uh, you know, my time there had
Speaker 1: kind of expired, so I had to go live with
Speaker 1: my mom. And when I left. When I went to
Speaker 1: stay with my mom, I met you know, go, you know,
Speaker 1: I met Dollar, met Hard. I started just meeting everybody,
Speaker 1: and I started realizing, like, Yo, these some cool niggas
Speaker 1: on the South Side. I'm like, they just like what
Speaker 1: we owned and they do the same thing we do.
Speaker 1: And we just became super close. You know, we all
Speaker 1: know each other's you know, family, um, and that relationship
Speaker 1: has now been you know, probably thirty years for us,
Speaker 1: but me and Dollar been for instance, the day we met,
Speaker 1: and we've we've done everything from A to Z that
Speaker 1: I go to that's my dog. After releasing your first
Speaker 1: independent album, United We Stand, United We Fall, how did
Speaker 1: you ender meet luc Ludicrous? How did that come about?
Speaker 1: So that was the project that the old like some
Speaker 1: o gs put this project together, and that was I
Speaker 1: had that song on that I told you about. I
Speaker 1: can started getting feedback on and and one of the
Speaker 1: people that gave me feedback was Ludicrous, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And this he wasn't like Luda at the time,
Speaker 1: but he was working on the radio and he like
Speaker 1: New Scarface and he just like told me it was good,
Speaker 1: and these these other guys that was hustling, they put
Speaker 1: this project together like maybe twist song, so it's kind
Speaker 1: of like a compilation. But I had one solo song
Speaker 1: and then me and Dollar had a song, and like
Speaker 1: Dollar was like literally at this time, he was probably
Speaker 1: made like five years ahead of me as far as
Speaker 1: just being an artist, like lyrical ability, being able to
Speaker 1: paint pictures, flow, just everything, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I just was not there yet, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And he was more like, um, I think the focus
Speaker 1: for the O G s at the time, and then
Speaker 1: he ended up getting locked up, Dolly getting locked up.
Speaker 1: So I end up trying to make myself the focus.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if they saw it at the
Speaker 1: time the vision of the time, because they was kind
Speaker 1: of like, wait, you know Dollar, which was just something
Speaker 1: you had to I had to respect at the time,
Speaker 1: but that compilation end up. Um had little faith on there,
Speaker 1: who is best friends with Luda, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And he took it a little to a loud. It
Speaker 1: was like, y'all put this together by yourself. And this
Speaker 1: is around the time that everybody's trying to be independent
Speaker 1: and shop stuff. And it was just something that I
Speaker 1: grew off of that really locked down my notion of
Speaker 1: me being artists just because of just you know, the
Speaker 1: the featback that got that I got from it disturbing
Speaker 1: the piece. Mm hmmm, talk about that the starting the piece.
Speaker 1: I end up I end up signing with Ludicrous after
Speaker 1: this company all this right here, I end up signing
Speaker 1: with Loudle got my voice, set up my first bank account.
Speaker 1: How Ever, I was shoebox Tony go Um. You know
Speaker 1: I learned, I actually learned to learn. I learned a
Speaker 1: lot from from loudon and being under Disturbingtive Peace. I
Speaker 1: think that was like it was good. It was good
Speaker 1: for me to go through that. Man, A lot of
Speaker 1: young artists have a lot to learn before they're getting again.
Speaker 1: It's just more than a song, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: This is really a personality based kind of feel Man.
Speaker 1: You got no ide drips talk to people from do
Speaker 1: do what we're doing? Um, I know how to entertain.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of do shows. It's just a
Speaker 1: whole lot of things, and so being around them, I
Speaker 1: learned a lot of this stuff. I learned how to
Speaker 1: talk on the radio. I learned how to I learned
Speaker 1: how to learn, you know, and uh, it was it was.
Speaker 1: It was a brief error, but even in that era,
Speaker 1: I felt like I was bigger than the situation I
Speaker 1: was in. No, you definitely you definitely what you definitely
Speaker 1: thought that, Like, no, you were like trust me, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: trust me, bro you say like that, No, this is
Speaker 1: big Tony today Tony, but he was in his mind
Speaker 1: and now he dressed all that, it was still that.
Speaker 1: It was still all that. Yeah, it was always been that.
Speaker 1: It always been that the whole time, even before the
Speaker 1: music pop like that. It was always it was still that.
Speaker 1: Now I'm still that respect that's what. Yeah. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't want to no ten your challenge twenty I was
Speaker 1: riding for in twenties. Yeah, them like, yeah, I still
Speaker 1: got my shop. I'm a hoarder. You still got the
Speaker 1: BMW No not that, and I still got the poort
Speaker 1: that we go back to had I had so my
Speaker 1: my my friends were so shy. I guess you can
Speaker 1: call them friends, right, they shysty. I had a black
Speaker 1: BMW seven four or five. And then I started getting
Speaker 1: some money and I was like, you know they made
Speaker 1: seven fifties. Now this around the Being of Time era
Speaker 1: where like you know, meet them my switching cars and
Speaker 1: they just ruying thirty lambos at once, and I'm just like, man,
Speaker 1: these are nice men. Him together, we're going to club,
Speaker 1: that's what we're seeing. Yeah, I'm not going to pick
Speaker 1: this out. So I'm like, man, I'm going to get
Speaker 1: a new car. I go to the lot and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I think I'm had to get another black one because
Speaker 1: if they if I get a different color, they're gonna
Speaker 1: know this a new car. And I'm from an era
Speaker 1: with there your friends are robbed you and then like
Speaker 1: help you look for the robiga that I saw some niggas.
Speaker 1: I saw the car thieves in my neighborhood one time,
Speaker 1: and my neighbor k Not said, they're trying to steal
Speaker 1: your car. Come outside and the car thieves was coming
Speaker 1: up my apartments and hit the speedbump and they turn
Speaker 1: on me. What's going on? What's going on? I said, Man,
Speaker 1: somebody trying to steal my car. They're like, well, I'm
Speaker 1: like I'm looking at them. I'm like ship man, and
Speaker 1: so I'm from that era. So I literally had to
Speaker 1: beamers for like a period of time. That was like
Speaker 1: I had one beam I had it brand new when
Speaker 1: there was like twenty extra. You know, my friends would
Speaker 1: look at say it looks different. Did you get new
Speaker 1: rams or something. I'm like, yeah, it's new rooms. It's
Speaker 1: new rooms. But it's just it's crazy. Who I saw
Speaker 1: Peewee last night, you know what I mean? You know
Speaker 1: he could talk, and I say, he said, you ain't
Speaker 1: gonna he telling them? He telling the people. He went like,
Speaker 1: how we was on the south side. Come on, he
Speaker 1: was around, so he got to tell when we were around.
Speaker 1: Yet him around. I was working with you and going
Speaker 1: state like was seven out there? Yeah he moved. So
Speaker 1: he said some ship last night, Like, uh, man, you
Speaker 1: always knew, you know, you always had your business. My
Speaker 1: member used to come to the Gamblet house and now something.
Speaker 1: To be honest, you were so you were so nosy,
Speaker 1: I said, when I was just dropping them bags off,
Speaker 1: I go back in the biouns in front of you
Speaker 1: just to throw you off because I knew you talked
Speaker 1: too much. I said, that's crazy. But but man, it's
Speaker 1: just like man, come from where we come from. It's
Speaker 1: like people smile. You could mean these your brothers. But
Speaker 1: if people get down and out, man, they'll tie you up.
Speaker 1: Your brother you mentioned meet You know Jack had a
Speaker 1: story about Beach but being from there in that era,
Speaker 1: what was that now? Seeing do you have you have
Speaker 1: your chance to see the show? Oh yeah, thoughts on
Speaker 1: the show and how fit he put that together and
Speaker 1: a little meat and the job he's doing. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think little Mes doing that crub but superstar, you know,
Speaker 1: shout out a little miets Yeah. Um, I speak to
Speaker 1: meach often. I speak to the sister often. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a part of the show that I didn't know
Speaker 1: him at You know what I'm saying, it's early in
Speaker 1: their life, right, you know, I mean I just normally.
Speaker 1: I remember when they came into one twelve, two hundred
Speaker 1: deep Magic City, yeah, with you know, black bandannas, and
Speaker 1: when we didn't even when you one twelve used to
Speaker 1: have to wear like at least Timberland boot. You couldn't
Speaker 1: wear like, you know, dickies and shorts, and them niggers
Speaker 1: came in there at one time, and it seem like
Speaker 1: they wasn't gonna never stop coming in it. I haven't
Speaker 1: even never seen two hundred of people hanging together people, yeah,
Speaker 1: every every weekend. And then you know it was some errors,
Speaker 1: but it was it was some It was good to
Speaker 1: be a part of if you were able to you know,
Speaker 1: see it. It It was very um you know I used
Speaker 1: this right here. Man, You either influence I mean you
Speaker 1: either inspired by something of your hater one of the other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: ain't know a great area, you know, so you see
Speaker 1: something you like, you'd be like, that's nice, man, I
Speaker 1: like that. Oh you say some haying ship ain't no great.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So for me, when I see something, man, it inspires
Speaker 1: me to want to work, you know, like I want
Speaker 1: a bigger house in Cali. I want I want some
Speaker 1: more stuff. I'm not content. So the only way I
Speaker 1: know how to get this stuff is to work for us.
Speaker 1: So I'm just staying up all night. I'm kind of
Speaker 1: fatigued now. I came here with an energy drink because
Speaker 1: I was up all night trying to get what I want.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So Yeah. Supplied to band
Speaker 1: Oh seven Drops deffel Back Boys take the World by
Speaker 1: Storm featuring Little Wayne. How bad uh? That song come together.
Speaker 1: I've been I was friends with a little one very.
Speaker 1: I've actually met Baby actually met b G first, which
Speaker 1: is crazy free b G. I met b G first.
Speaker 1: He was in Atlanta and then I was in UH.
Speaker 1: I was in Patchwork. So at this time, I was
Speaker 1: using my little hustle money to get studio time in
Speaker 1: a building where I thought on artists would be at.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I just wanted to be
Speaker 1: in the same building. It's real artists, so you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. At this time, I booked me some
Speaker 1: studio time at Patchwork and they told me Baby from
Speaker 1: cash Money needed some weed, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: In the eight room or so. I was in the
Speaker 1: be room. So I um, I go see him, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And they looked, you know, like
Speaker 1: they looked on TV largs and their life and I,
Speaker 1: you know, like I served them. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But this is crazy. I don't even know if you
Speaker 1: remembers this. Like he asked me to take them to
Speaker 1: the mall, like showing the local I wrote them to
Speaker 1: the mall. He had like you know, people with them,
Speaker 1: and they all would like getting dressed in the store,
Speaker 1: like leaving the clothes they had there at the store
Speaker 1: getting dressed, and I was just in the corner like
Speaker 1: one of them like you're gonna you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: You're gonna get something, and I was like, you know no,
Speaker 1: I was just kind of chilling out, like I couldn't
Speaker 1: remember my dad really buying me nothing at this particular time.
Speaker 1: And it was like, you know, baby, like say, Slam,
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna get nothing, Like yeah, I guess, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess. You know, he's a little timla. I got
Speaker 1: like a little outfit and I was like, damn it
Speaker 1: bought me something, you know what I'm saying. So he
Speaker 1: still hadn't paid me for the the week, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So they was like going to New
Speaker 1: Orleans and I was like I didn't know how to
Speaker 1: really I knew how to ask him, but I don't
Speaker 1: really know how to ask him. Like about my little
Speaker 1: it was it was like full fifth at the time,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Needed He's like, yeah, yeah, Slim,
Speaker 1: you want to go to the world. In my head,
Speaker 1: I'm like about this weed, I guess I am. Now
Speaker 1: I go to fucking New Orleans. They got this before Katrina.
Speaker 1: They got matches, they got a mansion for the crew
Speaker 1: that he gotta imagine, you know, boom so Tom got
Speaker 1: some kind of fast as poor she write down. They're
Speaker 1: like that boy, you know they're talking about him. That's shorty.
Speaker 1: So he end coming to the mansion and we built
Speaker 1: a rapport off of that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because he was like the only cash money artist left.
Speaker 1: Everybody else was gone, and they was trying to revamp
Speaker 1: and do something else. And you know, I figure out
Speaker 1: like I'm like, I got good weed. I'm down here,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I mean, I'm just built off that.
Speaker 1: And he threw my name in a song like so
Speaker 1: long ago. I was like sitting in the line and
Speaker 1: hurt my name in the song, like man, this nig
Speaker 1: cool as hell, you know what I'm saying, And every
Speaker 1: sinse then we just so he just really been there
Speaker 1: for each you know, that's very similar too. He's a
Speaker 1: little bit more different, but no, I mean he know
Speaker 1: he ain't. But yeah, I mean after going everything you've
Speaker 1: been through, the grinds you've been through, what was it
Speaker 1: like really starting to hear your ship on the radio
Speaker 1: all the time. Did you feel like you had made
Speaker 1: it at that point? I still don't think I made
Speaker 1: I love that, and that's crazy, man. I still be yearning.
Speaker 1: I'm still passionate. I still want to, you know, feel out,
Speaker 1: stay from the rain. I still want to, still won't.
Speaker 1: I ain't lying, chick, And I'm in a position to
Speaker 1: do other things. Man, I'd be knowing. I'd be talking
Speaker 1: to people to be talking about it. I'm thirty six
Speaker 1: million years. They ain't got nothing to do with music,
Speaker 1: and I'll be like, what damned? Maybe you just need
Speaker 1: to get up and put a suit on in the morning.
Speaker 1: But I still love this right here. I do. But
Speaker 1: I'm in a position. I'm in a circle now with
Speaker 1: man people, investors, investments, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: it looked like it would shot me away from there.
Speaker 1: But I truly love what I truly love what I do.
Speaker 1: Did you ever get your money from him? Well, that's it,
Speaker 1: Yeah I did, damn little bit. I asked him about it,
Speaker 1: Like damn. I can tell you how long ago it was,
Speaker 1: bro y'all. Remember when they had the the this is
Speaker 1: the Funnies Ship of the World. Remember the Cadillac was
Speaker 1: then e X T or something. Yeah, I got one
Speaker 1: paint of red and then he got like archy seats
Speaker 1: or something in the right, and so he came in say,
Speaker 1: slam go check out the swine. You know, he's talking
Speaker 1: about swine on my seats all this. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: it's nice. What is mom? But I end up getting
Speaker 1: that in there. Uh, And you know, he ended up
Speaker 1: being like Slick a mentor for some time. Man, baby
Speaker 1: got plenty of wisdom, you know, And I'm just you know,
Speaker 1: everything just happened for a reason. But it's some stuff
Speaker 1: I can look back on and just tell. I could
Speaker 1: tell somebody, man, you ain't been through it, for real,
Speaker 1: you ain't did this. You ain't have to go through this.
Speaker 1: Change your name. The two chains how they came about,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was doing a mixtape with Bigger
Speaker 1: Ranking and he was I was, you know, I'm saying
Speaker 1: two chains all in my song. Man, this is just
Speaker 1: really something that God really totally took control of because
Speaker 1: you know, during and that's why I looked at the disturbing.
Speaker 1: The peace era was like a little trial period because
Speaker 1: when I you know, titty Boy was a name from
Speaker 1: the streets. Tip my mom do call me that. So
Speaker 1: when it was trying to wrap, I couldn't think of
Speaker 1: like mc fucking whatever the funk everybody was. I can't
Speaker 1: even thinking that. I just was like Tip, But I'm
Speaker 1: not realizing when I go tell people my name is
Speaker 1: Tito Titty, but they're like, oh, you know, they just
Speaker 1: like like a book cover that they're just not sucking with.
Speaker 1: They're just not even trying to open the book. The
Speaker 1: outside of it so fucked up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know the too change. Man, I literally
Speaker 1: got a pitch in the eighth grade with me wearing
Speaker 1: two necklaces on, Like it's not photoshop. I literally have
Speaker 1: been this kid that used to hustle and go to
Speaker 1: the fleet market and by jury. My uncle rest in Peace,
Speaker 1: who just died last year. Man, this thought he thought
Speaker 1: he was them to miss the t That's how many
Speaker 1: gold chains and diamonds he used to wear, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, nugget rings. And I just have been
Speaker 1: intrigued by jury since I could think of it. And
Speaker 1: I don't know what a two change came from. I
Speaker 1: don't know what dad happened. I don't know anything, but
Speaker 1: when it happened, man, my life changed. Crazy. You released
Speaker 1: a mix tape Tied the Tru True Religion, which became
Speaker 1: your first mix tape to peer high on the music charts.
Speaker 1: What was your decision to release that rather than the
Speaker 1: studio album the mixtape that a regular album. What this
Speaker 1: time I was going solo. I was still trying to
Speaker 1: create a buzz in the streets. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That was away at the time. Yeah, that was the
Speaker 1: way that was to move, you know how mixtapes. It
Speaker 1: was my gangster grills too. I hadn't done against the grills,
Speaker 1: and I was using that really to get hot. I
Speaker 1: was telling folks, I'm the hottest nigg in the city
Speaker 1: without a gangster career. Let drumming them know what. I'm
Speaker 1: letting people know it, you know what I'm saying. Just
Speaker 1: like now, I feel like I've done a lot of
Speaker 1: things in the industry without some of the cheat sheets
Speaker 1: have been they have been used in the industry. Now
Speaker 1: I have used some cheat sheets obviously, Like I feel
Speaker 1: like if anybody do a song with Drake is gonna
Speaker 1: help your career. Kanye is gonna help your career. So
Speaker 1: a couple of people. But it's a couple man, you know,
Speaker 1: industry cheat she said, I just ain't had a chance
Speaker 1: to use just got through it. But truely, and that
Speaker 1: was just the thing to do at the time. I
Speaker 1: was hot with him. Yeah, absolutely, and I end up
Speaker 1: doing um you know, at this time. It created so
Speaker 1: much leverage when I went into these offices. When I
Speaker 1: went into these labels, I didn't have to do a
Speaker 1: three sixty deal. I didn't have to you know, I
Speaker 1: damn that had a Ricky Williams football contract. Every touchdown
Speaker 1: I was getting a bonus. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I just set up some my own weight of my
Speaker 1: own my own contract due to the leverage from from
Speaker 1: the True Religion mixtape. Talk to about us about true
Speaker 1: Life with Drake. He said he was one of the
Speaker 1: cheat sheets and how big that was. It was life
Speaker 1: different after that. Yeah, my life was yeah, my levelage,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I met I met Drake on tour Wayne
Speaker 1: like maybe oh eight like before you know a lot
Speaker 1: of it, well for a lot of us, you don
Speaker 1: knew who he was or whatever. So I met him
Speaker 1: then and we you know, just been been cool. And
Speaker 1: I remember seeing him at an All Star game, maybe
Speaker 1: around or something like this. And I had a studio
Speaker 1: bus and I told him I had some from and
Speaker 1: I sent it to him, which I didn't though, and
Speaker 1: he was like, sent him, like damn okay. So then
Speaker 1: I went to my bus and I used to do this, Man,
Speaker 1: this is no lie. Man, I used to do this.
Speaker 1: I used to be like man, and I'm not God,
Speaker 1: and this makes sense, I hope, don't nobody take this wrong.
Speaker 1: But I used to really pick out beasts like man
Speaker 1: who deserved this blessing. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: swear I used to be like that. And at the time,
Speaker 1: I just it was Mike wheel Man. He just worked ethic,
Speaker 1: was like through the roof. And I put up this
Speaker 1: Mike wheel beat in the head, like a little part
Speaker 1: of the beat where I was like, man, I just
Speaker 1: feel like trail, just you have a melody right here,
Speaker 1: and it's just like man. So I did a verse
Speaker 1: and I sent it to him, and you know, the
Speaker 1: rest is just history versus history. And that was my
Speaker 1: first plaque, and it was Mike Will's first plaque of
Speaker 1: many since then, you know, from the door two thousand
Speaker 1: seventeen you receive your your first Grammy for Best Rap Performance,
Speaker 1: uh On a chance on No Problem featuring Wayne Um
Speaker 1: after being nominated a handful of the time. So it
Speaker 1: was it like to get your first one. Didn't you
Speaker 1: perform that on Ellen too? Yeah? It was it was
Speaker 1: It was a It was a It was a blessing. Man.
Speaker 1: I always wanted to. I know, people don't really care
Speaker 1: about don't I do. I mean, albums come from where
Speaker 1: I come from. I ain't never think I would get
Speaker 1: my still and you know what, I still want one
Speaker 1: on my own, you know, like one of my records
Speaker 1: they have people on it. But you know, this was
Speaker 1: a chance record, and this is another scenario like where
Speaker 1: I had, you know, kind of put the record together,
Speaker 1: like he wanted tune on the song, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I just was like he loved a
Speaker 1: rap here in the studio every night. So I usually
Speaker 1: call Way and it's some footage somewhere where I'm letting
Speaker 1: him know we gotta gram me somewhere skating at the Wars.
Speaker 1: Happy is here, like, well, what's going on? Like we won?
Speaker 1: And he don't even know what he on the ramp somewhere.
Speaker 1: But if you're talking about the ashes blunting this grammar.
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, it felt it felt good if if
Speaker 1: it was good to do that. August he did the
Speaker 1: verses with Wick Ross. How did that come about it?
Speaker 1: When was it? Like? It was cool? Man? I had
Speaker 1: originally asked I had where I said meet Meal. At
Speaker 1: first I said Meat, let's do it versus and then
Speaker 1: either Swizz somebodw like maybe meet somebody would like, no,
Speaker 1: We're not gonna do it, because it was you know,
Speaker 1: when it first started off, you just wanted to get
Speaker 1: get on there, and that was different. Like if I
Speaker 1: do it again now, I think it would be more performance,
Speaker 1: it would be more personality. At this time, it was
Speaker 1: like a respect thing and it still is a respect thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so somebody called me
Speaker 1: about Ross and I was like, man, let's do Ross. Man.
Speaker 1: Me and him have been partnered since the white beam
Speaker 1: of days, you know what I'm saying, and uh, because
Speaker 1: he's literally stay on the south side, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, used to stay on the south side or
Speaker 1: whatever I still does. And so when I came about
Speaker 1: it was was definitely in the middle of like when
Speaker 1: COVID was like super uppredictable. Everybody backstage. It was very limited,
Speaker 1: but everybody backstage maxed up um um. Some of the
Speaker 1: things that you know staying that was you know, you know,
Speaker 1: the strippers for me, him getting the massage. It still
Speaker 1: has a little still had his and stuff going on,
Speaker 1: but you know it was cool. Man. Ross is a
Speaker 1: really dope artists as Meek mil you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and as myself, and I think people know, but I
Speaker 1: still be like thinking people don't know. You know how
Speaker 1: many plaques that are just like every time that I've dropped, Man,
Speaker 1: I've been blessed enough to bring home a plaque, man,
Speaker 1: And that means I have some real hardcore fans and
Speaker 1: I just have um something that the people want. I
Speaker 1: want to seek for a long period of time. I
Speaker 1: think that's a bless longevity. Jay Z mentioned about a
Speaker 1: month ago that he didn't feel like anyone could be
Speaker 1: standing on the stage with him. Started a lot of
Speaker 1: buzz at third through. Who's three people you feel like
Speaker 1: would be a good battle for Jay jay Is definitely
Speaker 1: he definitely wanted you want to be kind um. You know,
Speaker 1: he got the charisma stage president, he got the songs.
Speaker 1: I think Wayne has the stage president charisma. I think
Speaker 1: he got the songs. I think Drake got the stage
Speaker 1: president Charisma, got the songs. So you got a few people.
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah got the stage President's charisma songs. So
Speaker 1: you know, you get to the degree that we got.
Speaker 1: We got a few artists that we are alive to
Speaker 1: see right now. Just man, I said tune. I went
Speaker 1: on Instagram and I've been going out of the people.
Speaker 1: I say, tune, got tune, got something Tune. He's gonna
Speaker 1: get on it. He's gonna take his shirt off, he's
Speaker 1: gonna start looking like he have. You know, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be it's gonna be different. But hold, it's super charismatic too.
Speaker 1: I just think I just think we're allied with It's
Speaker 1: just real cool time either one of these people we
Speaker 1: talked about drop a record of moronment. Yeah, crazy man,
Speaker 1: But it's crazy to to to to really just appreciate it,
Speaker 1: because most people don't. I feel like it's the same
Speaker 1: way in sports. Everyone wants to talk crazy about bronze
Speaker 1: staph James instead of just understanding, like what your witness,
Speaker 1: what greatness? Man step literally looks like he's throwing the ball.
Speaker 1: It doesn't at some time it doesn't even it looks
Speaker 1: like it becomes a form like after like when it's
Speaker 1: boy the ram, it's like a goose s neck, but
Speaker 1: from here it just looks like he watching that, like
Speaker 1: to just know what a ram is every time? Man,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. He literally can do this. I feel like
Speaker 1: with one, I I feel like the mother get shoot one.
Speaker 1: Not man, he knows where that mother is. He said
Speaker 1: they got Laci too. Now you can see the rim better.
Speaker 1: I think he got last year. I think, yeah, that
Speaker 1: might be crazy if he was blind this whole time.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, right, just to know that ship is that? Um,
Speaker 1: hit after hit, you said you've been blessed to continue
Speaker 1: to bring home plaques to this day. Can you pick
Speaker 1: a favorite or the more special more specialty? Absolutely, I'm different.
Speaker 1: And the reasons I'm different is because, um, when you
Speaker 1: do a song, it has a hundred you know, publishing
Speaker 1: whatever you want to say, right, the producer gets for
Speaker 1: making the beat like and if there's no samples or
Speaker 1: anything like that, they get. The other fifty is the
Speaker 1: artist or who elp was on the song? That was
Speaker 1: just me, It wasn't nobody on the hook. Didn't nobody
Speaker 1: give me a line, didn't nobody to say you ought
Speaker 1: to talk about being different? I remember, I know where
Speaker 1: I was when it went platinum. I was in London
Speaker 1: and at this time I was on I didn't know
Speaker 1: a lot that was plat my dear Mercy, that was platinum.
Speaker 1: It was like I couldn't miss. But deep down there
Speaker 1: my soul, when I looked in the mirror, I said, boy,
Speaker 1: you ain't did this by yourself. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I wann't trying to act like my ship and then start,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They could do something with
Speaker 1: one of the cheat sheets and act like this ship.
Speaker 1: Don't staying like you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: do know I'm different. It's just me, and it's just me,
Speaker 1: and it's just my idea. And over a million people
Speaker 1: liked it, over a million, over three million people like
Speaker 1: this idea that I thought of. Counter you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know Drake did the hook on No Lie,
Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, So let me let's just be real.
Speaker 1: You know. I have a few more records solo, but
Speaker 1: that first solo record, I feel like I got jumped
Speaker 1: in the game. Yeah. Um, you've been blessed to work
Speaker 1: with a lot of different people. Are there a few
Speaker 1: people still you haven't got a chance to work with
Speaker 1: that you'd like to? Yeah, it's cool. M m yeah,
Speaker 1: anybody you want to name put that out there. I'm
Speaker 1: through with that. That alright. Ufter this point, who's your?
Speaker 1: You feel like you're in your opinion? Your Your funnest
Speaker 1: collab was with my Fun Fun Fun Collapse. Let me see,
Speaker 1: HOLLI grow one too. Anything I do it with Wayne
Speaker 1: is fun. First of the new we're working on color
Speaker 1: Grove too now and it will be ill. I don't
Speaker 1: want to say April, but man, that was It was
Speaker 1: really fun because we were in a room a lot
Speaker 1: of times doing this and it wasn't just email and
Speaker 1: what you think. We were actually watching ESPN or UFC
Speaker 1: fight for hours and then like recording or going to
Speaker 1: live the process of Yeah, man, this album is super fun.
Speaker 1: I love working with Tune. I love working with you
Speaker 1: because whatever you left it as it's not gonna sound
Speaker 1: like that. So it's like just like wanting to know
Speaker 1: what brother in to do. Yeah, you know, the boys
Speaker 1: called me one day said like you know Mercy coming
Speaker 1: out to Mark it's gonna be a single. And I
Speaker 1: had done like when I first like started working with you.
Speaker 1: Then it's like they booked the whole hotel out in
Speaker 1: the whole top floor with studios, and the studio was
Speaker 1: right across my room and everybody was in there, like
Speaker 1: Tiana Side had like all the artists, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And yeah, he's not there. So it's like
Speaker 1: he's almost like trying to give me like a little test.
Speaker 1: So you have some tracks pulled up that he wants
Speaker 1: me to do, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: go through one track, I go South and can smoke,
Speaker 1: and Jake called him like, yeah, he's done, him saying
Speaker 1: like what you mean, No, Like no, he's done, because
Speaker 1: like you gonna work on songs for like a year,
Speaker 1: not you know what, like you're done, You're done done.
Speaker 1: Pull up this one, not that, but y'all, bro, don't
Speaker 1: that man, Okay, pull up this one. So like four
Speaker 1: records later, I am saying no, bro. You know, they
Speaker 1: get asked me, do you you must have had all
Speaker 1: these verses wrote down I already I said no, I'm
Speaker 1: just doing I mean, you know, what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: don't care who in the room right now. I do
Speaker 1: a whole song from all these people, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I did it. They called me, said
Speaker 1: that song you did Mercy, I'm like Mercy. Which one
Speaker 1: was that? Like it's gonna be a single? I said,
Speaker 1: When I did, it didn't sound like it could be
Speaker 1: no single. I said that you get on there, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got on it. So they played to me for
Speaker 1: me over the phone and it didn't sound on nothing left,
Speaker 1: you know, it was my verse, but man, everything else
Speaker 1: was and that at that point there, I started trying
Speaker 1: to pay a little bit more attention to music, be
Speaker 1: a little bit more detail. After I realized what people
Speaker 1: who were kind of at the top, we're doing to
Speaker 1: be at the top. You know. It just wasn't just
Speaker 1: like taking this and being done with it. They it
Speaker 1: was a process and they still was seasons and adding
Speaker 1: different ingredients to it. And that was my first time
Speaker 1: being a part of that process. Looking it up. Who
Speaker 1: was some of the younger UH rappers in the game,
Speaker 1: you like these days? Some of the young boys. Man,
Speaker 1: my album thank You, I can start telling my my
Speaker 1: new album don't sell itself. It's full because I had
Speaker 1: put out a memo saying it's my last trap album Wanted,
Speaker 1: which is not really my last trapped around, but just
Speaker 1: all of it being in one space. Don't don't sell itself.
Speaker 1: It's almost gen Z Base like Millennial base. I got
Speaker 1: all the artists, and I would say they up and coming,
Speaker 1: but they ain't going the way they're here. I got
Speaker 1: money Bag, little Baby, Roddy dirk Um dry Queeze, my artist,
Speaker 1: Sleepy Rolls. I have well SWEDEI sleep yeah sleep, I
Speaker 1: have Swedee. I have Stove God he's from Syracuse. I
Speaker 1: got Simble from the Worst. That's the Homy shout out Simble.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah man. So uh am super happy about clashing
Speaker 1: my o G veteran talk with the young with the
Speaker 1: young flavor. You know what I'm saying. I'm really uh,
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to get some feedback off the new project.
Speaker 1: Talk about your basketball career, bro, and you're playing a
Speaker 1: lot of slab games. I played the slab game for you,
Speaker 1: but I think the one I played in was your
Speaker 1: best one. Uh you performed in I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was because I was out there and you was
Speaker 1: trying to outdo me. But you really, you really showed
Speaker 1: you really impressed me that game. Ever since then, I
Speaker 1: don't know what happened. Ain't seen no good highlights now
Speaker 1: because the game, because we were actually playing in the
Speaker 1: game I played in which we was actually playing, like
Speaker 1: you actually came warmed up, had to shoot like you
Speaker 1: showed up earlier. It's good to play with people. How
Speaker 1: do I say this? To really play? How do I
Speaker 1: say this? All right, y'all are NBA players now this
Speaker 1: is let me let me get in this. How you
Speaker 1: NBA player imagine? And you this is just something you
Speaker 1: can relate to because you have great passes. You come down, pump, fake,
Speaker 1: behind the back, past, just go out of bounds. Do
Speaker 1: you passed the two looking at you like, so that
Speaker 1: happens you come down again? No? Look, now you're starting
Speaker 1: to look crazy because can't nobody catch your path? Yeah,
Speaker 1: now you look like why this guy that they even
Speaker 1: saying you sorry? Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: so for me, a lot of the cliff that you
Speaker 1: see me put up is like the last game that
Speaker 1: I put up, the last game that I actually played
Speaker 1: that I can remember that I put up with this
Speaker 1: summer when I played with with Trey and Brad and
Speaker 1: and Carmelo and all these guys you know over here
Speaker 1: with drew up in California. When I go play with them,
Speaker 1: and you know, I had two or three buckers with them,
Speaker 1: And it was because I think the level of competition,
Speaker 1: because I know, I know they know how to play,
Speaker 1: and I know I know how to catch the ball,
Speaker 1: and I know if I thought it like, I know,
Speaker 1: they got to hit you right in the mouth for
Speaker 1: you to catch it right, I know you know how
Speaker 1: to catch. It just makes me happy to play with,
Speaker 1: especially people whose skill set is higher than mine or
Speaker 1: something that, yeah, like mine. But if somebody really can't
Speaker 1: play basketball that good, it's just just kind of take
Speaker 1: my my energy away. You know. It's just and I was,
Speaker 1: and I was for a long time, for a long time,
Speaker 1: for a long time, Bran And I don't know, this
Speaker 1: might be a problem with people might not know how
Speaker 1: real ill I am in in the booth, but a
Speaker 1: long time, that's how I treated the music game. I
Speaker 1: did it according to competition. So if it wasn't like
Speaker 1: Drake or Yeah or whatever, I wasn't like, you know,
Speaker 1: all the songs with the big ones, I'm I'm mopping
Speaker 1: the floor. But then I would get like a pop
Speaker 1: record and not be like, man, I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: give them all this, you know what I'm saying. When
Speaker 1: in actuality, Lebron, don't water it down for no nobody.
Speaker 1: You come out there not no doud. You don't get
Speaker 1: your grass throw, you know what I'm saying. Kobe, don't
Speaker 1: take He's not since you and it literally took me
Speaker 1: years to do that. And then basketball, I still ain't
Speaker 1: there yet. Like if you game playing, I can play,
Speaker 1: I just don't even want to because somebody gonna get hurt.
Speaker 1: It's just something ain't gonna be right. I'm just not
Speaker 1: into it like that. But in music, if you ain't
Speaker 1: all the way there, I don't care. It's exposure time.
Speaker 1: I'm exposing. But once upon a time I could get
Speaker 1: a record from an artist who ain't seen you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Maybe it's somebody that ain't got all
Speaker 1: the bars and I kind of playing around tiptoe with it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But didn't have a record
Speaker 1: with you know, god knows who and really show up
Speaker 1: and show out. But now I'm at the point of
Speaker 1: my career in the last couple of years with no
Speaker 1: matter what it has to be. He was letting the
Speaker 1: run point. He ran point that day too, so he
Speaker 1: really thought he was magic Johnson there. You should have
Speaker 1: seen it, and you don't want to talk about legs
Speaker 1: all kind of he thought he the first thing he
Speaker 1: came here to challenge us to a shootout outside the
Speaker 1: first thing he did when he came here. Who the
Speaker 1: best celeft you played against in the game. I think
Speaker 1: Quabo can hoop? I think Chris Brown could, who Braisy
Speaker 1: and who? Like? Let me think it's a few people
Speaker 1: thinking actually whop if they you know, probably got us
Speaker 1: all together, there's probably be one good game because a
Speaker 1: lot of us, you know, smoke, It's probably one good
Speaker 1: on the second or third game. And started kind of
Speaker 1: understand like we get to smoke the whole entire season
Speaker 1: because coming out of the game training, but it would
Speaker 1: be trained to do it. You trained, y'are not taking
Speaker 1: two months off then y'all still lose from the leg
Speaker 1: Actually was helping y'all and he was doing a full
Speaker 1: workout there as soon as we was, before we even shower.
Speaker 1: We were smoking in the car shut off. That's got
Speaker 1: to do it. That's had a little bit. My partner
Speaker 1: did he want his parents and know he smoked. He
Speaker 1: taking ship out, put it in the back, back fold up,
Speaker 1: put the trunk under some ship man, she's still on
Speaker 1: You remember me calling you after the Jack Harlow and
Speaker 1: Quibo game man. So many people called me after the
Speaker 1: Jack Hallow man a game was worth like a million
Speaker 1: dollars or some ship man. Yeah, I I called this,
Speaker 1: go ahead, break it down to it. You broke it
Speaker 1: down to like, come on, bro it was it was
Speaker 1: we got, we got beat, we got we got definitely beat.
Speaker 1: Quite play good. Jack Harlow was more like a lamb
Speaker 1: Beer type of player. I just felt like he was
Speaker 1: just some like somebody in the middle, just like and
Speaker 1: then you know, maybe a player, maybe a player, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Maybe just a player anything. He
Speaker 1: hadn't having boatloads of cash. Yeah million was like he
Speaker 1: might even say some ship like I don't know, but
Speaker 1: um because I was like, I was like, you want
Speaker 1: to practice, you know what, like before the game, like
Speaker 1: let's just get together in the same court so we can.
Speaker 1: And so I had been like maybe like a week
Speaker 1: a week before the game. I started shooting, just trying
Speaker 1: to get my rhythm back, you know what I'm saying, shooting,
Speaker 1: And then I think he came in with you to
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech, Jim, and he came in and kind of
Speaker 1: warmed up the day before. Somebody that tried to get
Speaker 1: warmed up the day before. But you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you know, you know you I was in for some ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then walk in, he walked in like he's getting fifty. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean you know that. That's the part of being
Speaker 1: from Atlanta. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Very very high competence.
Speaker 1: It's a high confidence rate in Atlanta, you know. And um,
Speaker 1: you know it was it was. It was maybe kind
Speaker 1: of frustrating at the time, but it was it was
Speaker 1: actually fun, and you know it was fun. I don't
Speaker 1: think I would have changed anything. It would have I
Speaker 1: would have had to be in really top shape to
Speaker 1: really try to go at you know, both the guys
Speaker 1: those solo sip like that, and I would have had
Speaker 1: to have everything really working. J K package, the whole
Speaker 1: pack package. You gotta get a rebound, take it back
Speaker 1: and get them so then like they get them trying
Speaker 1: to sit up it still being like, damn, I just
Speaker 1: gonna be a long time. But I would do it again.
Speaker 1: You know, I would do it again. I would do
Speaker 1: it again if somebody wanted to do it. I still
Speaker 1: love Who would you pick as a teammate? UM? Probably
Speaker 1: probably probably quite boot him more than I. Who would
Speaker 1: you can't be quite because I got to go against
Speaker 1: him a hollow again right here on Harbold team. So
Speaker 1: if I had to go, who else? CBS? Probably CB?
Speaker 1: I to go CB, C Ball, go c Man. I
Speaker 1: played the game with CB, and there's number of the
Speaker 1: NBA Cats and the and CBR. They're going to work.
Speaker 1: You gotta handle too. Yeah, I think with anything though,
Speaker 1: man like a lot of a lot of the Cats
Speaker 1: begetting open runs, and that consistency keep you keep your
Speaker 1: joint open run. That's why I'm out of the NBA.
Speaker 1: We always catch you course side. At the Atlanta Hawks game,
Speaker 1: Trey Young is kind of giving you guys an organization
Speaker 1: some new life. What's it like, you guys? Uh? You
Speaker 1: quave A lot of rappers go out there, gooch all
Speaker 1: out their supporting. Uh. The Atlanta Hawks Slasher made a
Speaker 1: nice run to the Eastern Conference finals. Um trying to
Speaker 1: find themselves this year. But talk to us about the
Speaker 1: Hawks men. I mean, we want them to have a
Speaker 1: good team. And you know, you've got so many people
Speaker 1: from Atlanta. We want to support that. We want them
Speaker 1: to we want them to be good. You know, Trey
Speaker 1: Young has definitely giving us a lot of life, a
Speaker 1: lot of energy. I know people didn't you know about
Speaker 1: the trade at first with Luca or whatever. You know,
Speaker 1: worked out worked out. I think it work. It worked
Speaker 1: out for everyway right, it worked out. But Traded doing
Speaker 1: an excellent job in Atlanta, Man, he fissing perfectly. Not
Speaker 1: outside a lot of artists now artists, a lot of
Speaker 1: athletes that played for Atlanta. I'm sure Steve, you can
Speaker 1: attest it this. They'd be outside jerseys in the strip clubs. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But but but but honestly, man, you you don't see
Speaker 1: trade man traders traders that handing his business. And you know,
Speaker 1: I can appreciate the passion, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like knowing behind scenes, like he's passionate about nice with
Speaker 1: some of the other young players you like to watch
Speaker 1: outside the tray brother Hawks A period period basketball, the
Speaker 1: younger Cash, the younger Cash the younger Cash. I like Garland. Now,
Speaker 1: I like, uh when you talking about younger cash, young kids,
Speaker 1: I like, uh right, my boy from Golden State Pool, Georgan,
Speaker 1: like you, Jordan's. I got a couple more that I
Speaker 1: just I like them. Um, And so you know, I
Speaker 1: got something to do with the G League. So a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys that came to the G I
Speaker 1: like with Gary Payton Jr. Is Doing. Are you like
Speaker 1: the grind if you talked to him to about that
Speaker 1: you are partial owner? Yeah, the college part of scott Hawks.
Speaker 1: So they like a byproduct of the Lanta Hawks. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Kind of like for people that
Speaker 1: don't know, um G League. And this year, man, what
Speaker 1: I had due to covid Man, maybe three or four
Speaker 1: guys move up and get to play for the Hawks. Bro, bro,
Speaker 1: I remember you know what I'm saying. We're talking we
Speaker 1: got a new coach and everything. We're talking before the season,
Speaker 1: and we had a guy named our money went to
Speaker 1: the Houston Rockets and know how to another guy to
Speaker 1: get moved up. But see this is like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so I didn't go to the league, but like me,
Speaker 1: being able to know somebody and get him in the league.
Speaker 1: It's just like me living by scariously through them and
Speaker 1: it just gives me like so much happiness. Right So,
Speaker 1: I'm in this room with people and only maybe three
Speaker 1: guys came back from the previous year, and I'm looking
Speaker 1: around and I'm I'm really thinking, man, I wonder who
Speaker 1: could go. But anyway, I had a conversation like, man,
Speaker 1: I want you to take this serious because you know,
Speaker 1: the only way to go from here is up. You
Speaker 1: could be in and I'm just saying this before you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And then you look up and
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. A couple of them getting
Speaker 1: driss out on the bench and then they get to
Speaker 1: get in to say you really, it's on your resume.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that I started I started
Speaker 1: out the D League back then, for real, back then. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like I called up to the Clippers and played
Speaker 1: fourteen years, that ten day turned out of that. That's
Speaker 1: what That's what I'm saying. If you take advantage of
Speaker 1: that right there, you know what I'm saying. If you
Speaker 1: get in, man, I'm telling you, this ship could change
Speaker 1: your life. So I don't know, being a part of
Speaker 1: that it's like, man, so refreshing in the position. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: And it makes me pay attention to guys who don't
Speaker 1: get drafted, guys who don't got a big name. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's just it'd be certain circumstances
Speaker 1: that put you in the g leaguer. Ain't because you
Speaker 1: ain't having no game, you know what I'm saying. So um, Anyway,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of you know, New York cast that
Speaker 1: I'm fans of. I like, uh my boy from Houston.
Speaker 1: I like two three cats, Houston Boys, the Porter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that Jalen boy. I like his. I like his motor.
Speaker 1: They already fly fly to be running. I like him.
Speaker 1: And those are something the guys I talk about. All
Speaker 1: the stuff you got going online and not just a
Speaker 1: sky Hawks. You got the basketball, you got the nel salon.
Speaker 1: You don't know what fifty plus properties like give them.
Speaker 1: You know. But Escobar made you miss your honeymoon, didn't it.
Speaker 1: That ain't made me miss a lot of ships. He
Speaker 1: came night, he came to Escobar after his I went
Speaker 1: back to the hotel is too high? Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: came and uh so I have a restaurant and then
Speaker 1: I have a few restaurants in Atlanta, but they yeah,
Speaker 1: Escobar so Escobar is um a lounge in the top
Speaker 1: of the place. Has great food, great ViBe's great energy,
Speaker 1: and people actually go after their wedding. You can ask Steve.
Speaker 1: It's a nice place to go. Uh. Me and my
Speaker 1: partner Snoop have owned this spot. Snoop, We've owned this
Speaker 1: spot for five years. I have another spot just had anniversary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had an anniversary for that. Then I had an
Speaker 1: anniversary from my spot called Esco Esco South South that's
Speaker 1: been open two years. And then we have another restaurant
Speaker 1: was only members only that we're revamping and we're about
Speaker 1: to name that Esco Slash. I can't even Esco Pizza
Speaker 1: be looking out for that. And then I have one
Speaker 1: called Esco Seafood that we actually opened during the pandemic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that that's doing real good. It's on Edgewood and
Speaker 1: it just has nothing but great seafood for all you've lost.
Speaker 1: The lovers like myself and uh nails. I have Pamper
Speaker 1: nails salon that mine ain't looking at all like they're
Speaker 1: supposed to look right now. But I'm mentor like grooming
Speaker 1: and take care of myself. And it's for males and females.
Speaker 1: Everything is unique. So dope vibe Jack get a disking
Speaker 1: on his feet in there. Yeah man, they pull out
Speaker 1: the mom jumper cable jumped them boys off. But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I have prose property wise, I own, man. I own,
Speaker 1: you know, apartment building that I'm about to start working
Speaker 1: on re rehabbing. Own. Yeah, own maybe seventeen properties. Um
Speaker 1: m hm, yeah, I own. I own some things, own
Speaker 1: some things business. I just like to highlight that because
Speaker 1: you know you're my boy. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and I I always knew your mind frame. So to
Speaker 1: see you know what I'm saying, all this stuff coming
Speaker 1: to fruition, you know what I'm saying. It makes it
Speaker 1: make me proud to thank you man. That's all for sure,
Speaker 1: quick hitters man. First thing to come to mind. Let
Speaker 1: us know if you could be remembered by one bar
Speaker 1: or lyric in your career, which one would it be?
Speaker 1: And why one barred lyric in my career? Mm hmm man. True, true,
Speaker 1: I'll go for that. True. That's a good one. Top
Speaker 1: five rappers all time excluding me. Um, I like uh
Speaker 1: Wayne Hove based three k two sleepers and I'm going
Speaker 1: up package up pocket Biggie, you know, together excluding any
Speaker 1: of your art um one album you could listen to
Speaker 1: with no skips. I mean, it's crazy, ship is man,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm really laid back cat. It's probably an R
Speaker 1: and B album out there something, it's not. That's what
Speaker 1: I would be going to me that Jackie Jack state.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to cut you off. Jack stayed in
Speaker 1: my house a couple of months ago. I'm waking up
Speaker 1: at eight in the morning just gangster something damn Jack
Speaker 1: that they didn't even know it yet. Jack is a
Speaker 1: gangster though real life does not like gangster and s
Speaker 1: up at all. It was eight and there ain't no
Speaker 1: warm up and nut Violet Jill and stacking violence from
Speaker 1: from data from the Jack. We don't even have a
Speaker 1: breakfast yet. Bro. Yeah, I'm definitely not doing I'm not
Speaker 1: definitely not playing no ship like that. I am just
Speaker 1: a calming individual. I have now like the past two
Speaker 1: weeks because I have such a huge problem sleeping as
Speaker 1: I've been going to uh which which funcks up my playlist.
Speaker 1: It's just crazy, but I've been going to sleep to
Speaker 1: these sleep sounds on the Apple and you know, so
Speaker 1: I guess they'd be on all night when I'm sleeping.
Speaker 1: So now like i get in my car bluetooth and
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fund is the wind? I get
Speaker 1: to looking around, realized my bluetooth is picked up last night.
Speaker 1: But that's what I've been actually like listening to, like
Speaker 1: water and they've been listening to the ship just trying
Speaker 1: to like you heard the new rain drop rain patterns.
Speaker 1: I've been listening to rain patterns that calm. Yeah, courtside
Speaker 1: ticket to any game in history? Which one would it be? Well?
Speaker 1: One of my favorite courtside games that I went to
Speaker 1: was the Cleveland versus Golden State game where Kyrie and
Speaker 1: lebron Broke had forty three or forty something point. What
Speaker 1: M that's a man you want to be at? Right there? Man?
Speaker 1: My heart changing BPMS. Now, man about that game? Now,
Speaker 1: I know something I you know, wanted to be at
Speaker 1: like Kobe's last game. You know, I wanted to be
Speaker 1: at that game. Um, you know, you know stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And then you know, like coming up, I'm old enough
Speaker 1: to like know when Jordan played, but like my family
Speaker 1: and my dad didn't have you know, like any resources
Speaker 1: to take me to go see him in live live.
Speaker 1: But I remember going to being able to, you know,
Speaker 1: start going to see myself and I remember seeing a
Speaker 1: I play live and just how quick he looked in
Speaker 1: real life. To me, was was like something I had
Speaker 1: seen before. And just like I remember, you know, seeing
Speaker 1: him live and just but but you know, for them
Speaker 1: for the most part. Now I'm in a position to like,
Speaker 1: let's see what you want, do what I want to do.
Speaker 1: I would love to go see I would love to
Speaker 1: go see cause we never asked that question m J
Speaker 1: when he got sixty three in Boston the playoffs. I
Speaker 1: was a young year. That's like a second year, right,
Speaker 1: all right, So if it had to be an m
Speaker 1: J moment, I just always thought about, like I watched
Speaker 1: that game. What about they lost that game? Bird was
Speaker 1: on five? Yeah, they lost. They still lost five Dinner
Speaker 1: guests dead or alive. I would want somebody like Dave
Speaker 1: Chappelle there, so it could be some kind of learning,
Speaker 1: like fun experience, perfect person, uh, somebody that seems like
Speaker 1: they got it figured it out. I mean, my Denner
Speaker 1: would definitely be everybody that I feel like I have
Speaker 1: some type of knowledge that I don't have I just
Speaker 1: I can't think of them right now, but it'll be
Speaker 1: maybe Mark Cuban, friend of mine, somebody like that. Like
Speaker 1: I'm probably putting something like that together as a couple
Speaker 1: of bestments in a couple. Do you see people around
Speaker 1: and some opportunities invest into somebody's some I'm putting them
Speaker 1: in the room together. Maybe uh, I mean the name
Speaker 1: some people in the VC space maybe uh, the black
Speaker 1: being there, guy being um, I can't think his name.
Speaker 1: He's into Adventure VC two. But it would just be
Speaker 1: some money people. It will be some money people that
Speaker 1: have opportunities. And I would want to be Bob, Robert Smith,
Speaker 1: Robert Smith. Yeah, I would want Robert Smith there. So
Speaker 1: we've got Robert Smith, Mark Cuban. I got to get
Speaker 1: a female. I mean, somebody deceased. We gotta get you
Speaker 1: love to be at the table, to get to know
Speaker 1: somebody decease that we love that you would love to
Speaker 1: have you sit because he he followed that whole hustle
Speaker 1: grind the way we're thinking at this table. And then
Speaker 1: we need a female so it won't just see like
Speaker 1: it's male dominant. We need a female who just no
Speaker 1: souper on her ship, you know, and I think it
Speaker 1: would be a cool down him. If you could pick
Speaker 1: one guest to be on all the smoke, who would
Speaker 1: it be? But but the twist of that question is
Speaker 1: you gotta help us get your answer on our show,
Speaker 1: um my bat, I mean honestly, you know, Kanye would
Speaker 1: definitely put up by himself Broby outside, Roby outside right outside,
Speaker 1: even trying. It's funny now, man, Oh, y'all, I'm straight
Speaker 1: for Broby outside. I ain't Broby outside whatever, Brobo outside whatever.
Speaker 1: I gotta give you that he is outside. I think
Speaker 1: of this president felt yeah, man, pressure on applying pressure man.
Speaker 1: I like, I like, I like the single Carya, I
Speaker 1: like I like this car. Yeah, this, y'all fun with
Speaker 1: this is the heartless car. That's we had a great relationship.
Speaker 1: Were brothers at the heartless. You know. I kind of
Speaker 1: ain't talked to him in a while. But we're back
Speaker 1: cool now, like we're back boards. This is the hardest. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's y'all with Yeah, it's still just crazy. Man. We
Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Tell the people one more time? What up?
Speaker 1: What up? Is your player partner checking in too? Chains
Speaker 1: Big Tony himself and I have a new project, my
Speaker 1: seventh album. It's called Dope Don't Sell Itself. Great production,
Speaker 1: great features, a really great time. I appreciate all y'all.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the support. Tony Nolan, true yeah, shout out there.
Speaker 1: UH got something for you. But we can't leave, you know,
Speaker 1: without giving you a little something. Bro. We got some
Speaker 1: new merch coming, so we're gonna say new merch coming,
Speaker 1: but this is a thank you. In the meantime time,
Speaker 1: we know you don't know how to swag it out.
Speaker 1: You know you don't heat the only person I know
Speaker 1: you might have on all the smoke hoodie with Balencia, y'all,
Speaker 1: good y'all, all the way down. You know you're gonna
Speaker 1: make it do with it. He's gonna he's gonna make
Speaker 1: it look Yeah. Yeah, I appreciate yo. You know, go
Speaker 1: gave me a companient. The last time I was in
Speaker 1: the studio with y'all, said, go, man, Jack, you come
Speaker 1: in looking like a young nigger. No, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. This good old, good old fabric right here,
Speaker 1: that's soft. Yeah, you know some soft material here in
Speaker 1: l A in the studio all night that you go
Speaker 1: right down. Yeah, we got some yeah, we got some
Speaker 1: time for you. We appreciate you, man, Thank you for
Speaker 1: your time for men's health. Tomorrow, they want to see
Speaker 1: me in the gym. I might put the hood on something.
Speaker 1: We want to do a few pull ups or something.
Speaker 1: Y'all can get that at all the Smoke dot store man,
Speaker 1: check us out man, a whole bunch of new merch
Speaker 1: man when that's a rap. We appreciate your time, man,
Speaker 1: best of luck and everything you continue to do. Continue
Speaker 1: to stay blessed. Man. Appreciate my brother. You know what
Speaker 1: it is you appreciate. Find us on Showtime Basketball, YouTube
Speaker 1: and the I Heart platform Black Effects see y'all next week.
Speaker 1: This is All a Smoke, a production of The Black
Speaker 1: Effect and Our Heart Radio in partnership with Showtime