1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio in partnership with Showtime. M 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: h m hm, welcome back All the Smoke. Jack. We're 4 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: working back to back. They got us working this year. 5 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: We're back to back weeks in the studio. I love it. 6 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: Man to whom much is given, much is required and 7 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: the show giving us a list something, Yes, sir, well 8 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: introduce it to your man. Y'all, y'all go way back. 9 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: So my brother, yeah, we go way back. He think 10 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: he's nicer than me. And basketball always have been, uh 11 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: for some reason, and that's always been the problem. But 12 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: my dog, you know what I'm saying, My dog, dog, 13 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: Dog dog. You know what I'm saying with you say 14 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 1: at Steve Jack about the pack to change in the building. Yes, 15 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: appreciate your time, Bro. What's up? Man? Uh? Go ahead, Jack? 16 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: Start the show off? Who's gonna start with this? First off? 17 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: You see a video Chick going ham and Michael Jackson 18 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: or what you was thinking? What's going on through your 19 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: mind when you're looking at it? I mean she was 20 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: having it. She was obviously having a good time. I 21 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: was at the house game with one of my homeboys 22 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: because my kids can come, my wife can come. So 23 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: I took one of my partners, um, and she had 24 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: been asking him, um, you know, you know, to take 25 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: pictures with me. So I eventually took pictures with her. 26 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: And then you know, they always have something going on 27 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: during time out, so half time to keep the fans, 28 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, motivated, and she was just really going in. 29 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm not a part of the viral 30 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: era or stuff for that of virus. Like I guess 31 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm starting to learn what what viral is because I work. 32 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: I woke up to it being on many blogs inside, 33 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: so it was just it was a real organic You 34 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: just dropped the million dogs worth the Game single. What's 35 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: coming up after that? Million dolls worth a Game as 36 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: a single coming off my album called Dope Don't Sell Itself. 37 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm dropping another video in the next week or so. 38 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: It's called pop Music featuring um Beat, King and money Bag. 39 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: And then I shot a video last night to the 40 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: song I have called Kingpin Ghostwriter featuring Little Baby. And 41 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: the idea behind that is how you always got those 42 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: like you know, you got very influential people in your 43 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: neighborhood who don't wrap, who be just like sometimes you 44 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: learn stuff from and you get ideas from. For me, 45 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: it was people that were that, you know, hustle and 46 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: we're like king pins and man, they would just say 47 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: a little slick lines and you know, they would stay 48 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: with me forever. So it just was a situation where 49 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: I tiled the song keeping ghost writer because like, if 50 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: you hung around hustas, you picked up some of that stuff. 51 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: You know, I definitely did. Ain't that slick to it? 52 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: Can all I'm telling College Park, Atlanta, Georgia, talk to 53 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: us about your upbringing to some of the ups and 54 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: downs of you growing up. Well, we all had ups 55 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: and downs. Man. I realized that, you know, it's it's 56 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: called life. That's what life is. You're gonna have like 57 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: a winning streak, and then you're gonna feel like you 58 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: like cursed. You're gonna feel like you can't do nothing right, 59 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: and then it's gonna be like this little yellow area 60 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: or the middle area of life where it's either like 61 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's some good and some bad. I remember 62 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: when we were in this stuff is just popping up 63 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: and we were trapping. Me and my my brother Dollar, 64 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: who was in players. So we used to be trapping together, 65 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: right it was just like this might be ninth grade, 66 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: Tim Craig. We used to be walking to these apartments 67 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: and I wore a jury back then, right, look little 68 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: tracks and stuff, and um, you know, Dolly used to 69 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: be saying, bro, you're gonna get us in trouble. You 70 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: donna get us bust you keep wearing these chains to 71 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: these people houses like he used to be like, you 72 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, get on me, you know about 73 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: being that type of hustler. And then you know, over time, 74 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, I grew or started moving a little bit differently. 75 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: But you know, for the most part, man, I had 76 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: I had real patterns in my life where I just 77 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: couldn't It felt like I couldn't do nothing right. It 78 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: felt like I just had something kind of you know 79 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: how they said in the country, like a some kind 80 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: of juji on me. Then I then I have, you know, 81 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,679 Speaker 1: years to where it seemed like I can't do nothing wrong. 82 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: And you know, coming up in College Park early on 83 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: with some of the years, I felt like I couldn't 84 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: do some things right. I was trying to, um, you know, 85 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: bring my basketball thing and fruition, but I didn't put 86 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 1: time and effort. I think for me, I was blessed 87 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: with a talent, like God gave me a certain talent. 88 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: But when God gives you a talent and you work 89 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 1: on the talent, I think that makes you a superstar. 90 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: That says you're apart from everybody else. I was just 91 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: someone that was naturally tall, um, and I was coordinated. 92 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: So I just I never looked like I wasn't a part. 93 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: I could really do anything. But I can honestly say 94 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: that if it wasn't mandatory that i'd be at practice 95 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: sometimes I would be trapping. I wouldn't be be doing that. 96 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: So deep down in my heart, and I can tell 97 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: other people that want to do something, deep down in 98 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: my heart, I knew I wasn't going to the NBA. 99 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: I just didn't know any other answer to say when 100 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: the teacher asked me what I wanted to be to 101 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: grow up, because I knew I wasn't gonna never dry 102 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: like getting traffic and go to work at eight or 103 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: nine in the morning and come home and be a 104 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: nine if I like, I knew that wasn't you know, 105 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: in my in my in my cards, I knew I 106 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna never get a job, so um, you know, 107 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: early on. I had some run ins with the law. 108 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: I got, you know, I got jammed up my sophomore 109 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: year for a possession of cocaine charge and I got 110 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: locked up, you know in my high school. UM. At 111 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: this time, I wasn't even getting I wasn't even getting 112 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: letters from colleges or anything. I just was just like 113 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: a well known person in the community. And then I 114 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: come back to school. I do good. My eleventh grade year, 115 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: I go to some individual camps, UM, and then I 116 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: started getting mail, and then I, uh, I get it 117 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: inconcentrated my twelfth grade year, like right before I took 118 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: my S A T S. And this was some of 119 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: the stuff I talked about about, Like this seemed like 120 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't do nothing right because I was I never 121 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: made a sea in high school, and I didn't take 122 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: the s A T uh Well. I felt like I 123 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: only needed to take it one time. I didn't have 124 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: to like do these practice tests that they used to 125 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: require or ask people to do, because had um well 126 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: test taking skills. But I got locked up on a 127 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: Friday and Mr s A T that was coming up 128 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: on a Saturday, and that kind of changed my whole 129 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: life to where I am now, which is the reason 130 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: why I can say that if you live long enough 131 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: and stay out of jail, out of prison, and God 132 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: could just have so many things for you, you know 133 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I even got a partner whose 134 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: son got locked up in college and got out, and 135 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: I just was like, man, you know, I know it 136 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: sounds like some bullshit, but just like it happened to 137 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: me too, like even before college, and like look at 138 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: me now. It makes me a super It makes me 139 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: like a better person, a better family man. I don't 140 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't get upset about the little things. I don't 141 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: want to jeopardize my freedom for anything, because I did 142 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: at such a young age that I you know, I 143 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: see the police and I'm not scared of him. I 144 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: just decided just to go the other way. I just 145 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: decided just to like, you know, I'm not really into 146 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: breaking the law no more. I'll have no need to. 147 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: So um, that's kind of like my pattern. I had 148 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: some ups and downs, which we all do, you know 149 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And most people don't care. Some of 150 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: your close ones you do, but most people don't care. 151 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: Is just like how you end up. That's like the 152 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: receipt you get from your problem. You know what I'm saying, 153 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: You're type it in and then your receipt your read out. 154 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: It's just like how you are, your characteristics. You know 155 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We grew up, you became a man 156 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: that you are with people. People relate you to being 157 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: like a solid person, like a real brotherhood type of person. 158 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: That's show. That's show characteristics. They know. Like, man, people 159 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: know Jake, like if you're a friend, if they're you're 160 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: a friend of them. Man, you'll do anything but them people. Man, 161 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: whether you got like people know that. I'm sure Mad 162 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: can say that. I can say that. So and you know, 163 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: we saw some patterns. All of us had some patterns. 164 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: Bro and now we're just like no better, you know 165 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So despite all that, you ended up 166 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: going to Alabama State scholarship. Who care for a couple 167 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: of years, what was college basketball life for you? Let 168 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: me see? Okay, so this is another thing that's this 169 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: is another era in my life. This is crazy, right, 170 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: So I uh, you know it's coach cars from you know, 171 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: Alabama State black coach. Oh my god, coach Oliver. He's 172 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: passed away now. But it was him, a couple of 173 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: the coaches, I think all of them was the head coach, 174 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: but like an assistant coach called me, and I already 175 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: had some friends that went to Alabama State because it 176 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: was probably like two hours away from Atlanta, was like 177 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: a straight shot, you know what I'm saying. And I 178 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: have friends down there. And so this guy calls me. 179 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: He says, um um, you know, um Taiheed, this is 180 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: coach from such and such a you know I heard 181 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: about you know what happened. You know, I want to 182 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: offer you a full ride, you know, scholarship. Would you 183 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: like to come and visit the school? And so I 184 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: was like, you know, I mean, yeah, you know, I 185 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: have anything to lose, I come visiting. You know, at 186 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: this time, they in the swack, which is still d One, 187 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm like learning about 188 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: my d ones and just really trying to because it's 189 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: it's it almost was kind of a pride issue, but 190 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: it really, you know, wasn't but it was kind of 191 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: a pride issue. And I go to campus. I see 192 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: all these beautiful black people. I see the huge like 193 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: acadon where they're just like it wasn't like what I 194 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: was thinking, like a small gym or nothing. They heard 195 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: really had like thirteen thousand seas and then you know, 196 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: and showed me these new dorms and I was like, Yo, 197 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: this is not bad, you know what I'm saying. And 198 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: I took him up on an opportunity to him, Bro, 199 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: as soon as I get down there, this is no 200 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: cap As soon as I get down there, man, I 201 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: may be practiced for these guys. Maybe one time they 202 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: get fired. And then they bring in some new coach 203 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: that brought in five players with him, and I can 204 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 1: literally remember my mind this coach walking in um and 205 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: he's probably still alive right now. And uh, I remember 206 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: him walking in with like five players, a couple of 207 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: which I'm still cool, and I remember just my whole, 208 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: my demeanor. I just remember me not even feeling the 209 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: same about basketball no more, because even at this time, 210 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: I knew that if a guy brought somebody with with him, 211 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: he was locked in. Yeah, And then it was like 212 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: his I mean like he walked in, it was like 213 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: other people with him. I'm like, he's not coaches, you 214 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so I come from an 215 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: area where I've been playing basketball since I was seven 216 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: years old, start and doing my thing. And then I 217 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: come down here and I got friends at the game 218 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: talking about put me in, and I'm just not even 219 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: feeling that because I'm I'm nice. Yeah, I'm on the 220 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: second team in practice and I'm doing stuff. But and then, 221 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: so I've been in two different situations in high school. 222 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: I kind of went through this a little bit. But 223 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: I can honestly say I wasn't ready to start varsity 224 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: in the temb grade because it was like a legit 225 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: couple people. But it was a situation where this kind 226 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: of coach kind of took seniority over skill set sometimes 227 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: if you've ever been in there, like he's been here 228 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: longer than you or I've been. It was almost like that. 229 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, it kind of started like, because I'm being practiced, 230 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: I might you know, dunk on whoever this person is 231 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: supposed to be and then practice the next you know, 232 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: the game nything, I might not, like, you know, even 233 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: have to take a shower out of the game because 234 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: I ain't even only then I'm just woman up. So 235 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: I just was not fucking with that anymore. My my 236 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: energy started just like not being about the game Honestly, bro, 237 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: I just want to play at murals, you know what 238 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying. They'd be balling it be guys that could 239 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: play in the you know, college out like man, I 240 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: kind of want to just do some other ship. I 241 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: want to get out of this. And I was naturally smart, 242 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: and even though I had a scholarship, I knew I 243 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: could get through school. So um, I lost the love 244 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: for it. And I even was, I still wasn't the 245 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: trap right there because I was still full time hustling. 246 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: I still was moving bags and all of that. But 247 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: I didn't have that love like hooping anymore after that scenario. 248 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: Tell me how you and Jack cross pass. Jack played 249 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: for the Hawks. Old Jack played for the Hawks. Man 250 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: Jake played for the Atlanta Hawks. I've always been I'm 251 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: from Atlantis, so I've always been a Elanta Hawks fan. 252 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: I've always been a Lakers fan because my daddy, Um, 253 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: I thought Magic Johnson was the best point guard ever 254 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: because he was six nine all the time when everybody 255 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: was like a small guard, you know, and just be 256 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: at a six nine point guard, which he just you know, 257 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: kind of wanted for me, you know what I'm saying, 258 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: be tall, but so I've always been a Lakers fan 259 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: talking about um, you know, the Van Exel. I can 260 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: go from then before Kobe. I want people think it's 261 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: because Lebron is my friend that I'm a Lakers fan. 262 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: I can go, I want to go. I can go back, Eddie, 263 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: I can go back. I mean when Kobe missed two 264 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: or three threes in a row, you know what I'm saying, Well, 265 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: he as a young cat getting in and just pushing 266 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: through that. So those are my two teams, the Hawks 267 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,359 Speaker 1: and then Jack was just somebody that was very transparent, 268 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: somebody that was super relatable. Um, some of these and 269 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: that's what Lebron is to our code. She's so relatable. Man. 270 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: You know, he's in the fact of his made back 271 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: playing out music. You know, like, man, you know Jordan 272 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: is the is the goal, but he you know, this 273 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: type of thing like that. Yeah, So it's just a 274 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: different thing. Like when you came came through the city, 275 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: we could see you, we can touch you out. You 276 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He wasn't too good, you know, 277 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: oh three, I was hustling, but I wasn't rich. You know, 278 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: bited me over. So we built up. Man, if it's 279 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: been a three man. It's almost you know, twenty years. 280 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy. He helped me down the whole time, 281 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: talk about you know what it meant for you and 282 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: and and starting your other friendship and maintaining it for 283 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: so long. I mean, it's that's solid man. I mean, 284 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: it's not too many people that that you come across, 285 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: that you meet, you know, on your journey. You know 286 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: what I mean, That that that you want to see 287 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: when you know what I'm saying. I was, I remember 288 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: being in the clubs, you know, and it's still clubs 289 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: with two when he premium songs. You know what I'm 290 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: saying back then. So what I'm saying from duffer Back 291 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: boys on you know all you made myself told him 292 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: because I was an honorary duffer Back boy. I was 293 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: with the nigga so much, you know what I mean, 294 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: shout out the cabin. But uh, that's just my brother man. 295 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: Like I said, you don't you beat a lot of people, 296 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: but you don't. You don't become brothers with a lot 297 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: of people. You know what I'm saying. You say, what's up? 298 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: That's my dog? I love you, bro, But like it's 299 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: dere for with me and him, you know what I'm saying, 300 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: Like it was very few people in my wed, you 301 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He took a time about this 302 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: big schedule a kind of my wed. And so that 303 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: tells you the relationship between man. Where did the love 304 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: for music come from? Who did you adalyize growing up? 305 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: Did it run in the family? All right? My daddy 306 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: used to look, he was somebody that kept the radio 307 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: on all you know, all night, one of those people 308 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: that kind of kept the clock radio on just all 309 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: night and he had, you know, thousands of vinyls and 310 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, play the type of music. But honestly, I 311 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: think music. I mean, you had to come to me 312 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: like some kind of way. But I used to I 313 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: was a kid that was in the like in the 314 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: trap and I was a kid in the back of 315 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: the school bus that just freestyle when people with beat 316 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: box of knock on something. Um. When I was in 317 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: this little car wash um, I used to be trappling 318 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: in these older guys. UM used to come up and 319 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: they and they were like really trying to like joke 320 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: me a little bit. They'd be like, yo, yo six 321 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: nine yo, get your your you'll come up with him, 322 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, bust some freestyles like you know what I'm 323 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: saying and like no, I just walking around. Then one 324 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: of the guys said, man, you need to come to 325 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: the studio one day. Man, you need to record you know, 326 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: some of this stuff. And you know, Miken honestly say, 327 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: this was the very um late nineties, early two thousands, 328 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: and I haven't you know, I haven't. I've never written 329 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: a song. Everything has just been just straight off the top, 330 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: and uh, they kind of steering me into this direction. 331 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: And one of the first, maybe the second songs I 332 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: recorded I have. I had got a lot of a 333 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: lot of good feedback from just like people who didn't 334 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: expect me to produced this kind of material, really good feedback, 335 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 1: like genuine like bro, it's pretty good, damn you know. 336 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: And I remember saying like, man, I think I'm gonna 337 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: do this, Like it wasn't hard for me to be 338 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: like I think this is And so the dream started 339 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 1: becoming something that was real for me. Play a circle, 340 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: shout out Dollars, my partner. I met Dollar, Do you 341 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: how did that come about? Me and Dollars stayed in 342 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: the same apartment as we tried in the same apartments. 343 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: When I left, I really like people don't know this. 344 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm really like from Decata up to eighth grade. I 345 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: left Decatur in the eighth grade. I want to really 346 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: my nine grade year and I moved to College Park 347 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: and I was my mom was staying in College partment 348 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: and her weren't staying together. I was staying with my 349 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: cousins Indicator and like me and like me and Gucci 350 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: stayed down the street from each other, men walk and 351 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: and a couple of other people. So I was Indicator 352 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: and uh, staying with my cousin just trapping like these 353 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: little fifty dollar slabs. And then my mom was staying 354 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: on the street called Riverdale Road, and at the time, 355 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: it just sounded like it was a bunch of white 356 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: people on that street to me, you know what I'm saying, 357 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: Riverdale Road, and it was like a one bedroom apartment, 358 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: and my cousin was working. She was working at like 359 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: I placed it. So something dealing with with with electronics 360 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: or something. Shoe be going our time, so I'll be 361 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: in the house, you know, trapping, you know what I'm saying, 362 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, fucking just doing everything I wanted to do. 363 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: And then eventually, uh, you know, my time there had 364 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: kind of expired, so I had to go live with 365 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: my mom. And when I left. When I went to 366 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: stay with my mom, I met you know, go, you know, 367 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: I met Dollar, met Hard. I started just meeting everybody, 368 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: and I started realizing, like, Yo, these some cool niggas 369 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: on the South Side. I'm like, they just like what 370 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: we owned and they do the same thing we do. 371 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: And we just became super close. You know, we all 372 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: know each other's you know, family, um, and that relationship 373 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: has now been you know, probably thirty years for us, 374 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: but me and Dollar been for instance, the day we met, 375 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: and we've we've done everything from A to Z that 376 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: I go to that's my dog. After releasing your first 377 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: independent album, United We Stand, United We Fall, how did 378 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: you ender meet luc Ludicrous? How did that come about? 379 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: So that was the project that the old like some 380 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: o gs put this project together, and that was I 381 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: had that song on that I told you about. I 382 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: can started getting feedback on and and one of the 383 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: people that gave me feedback was Ludicrous, you know what 384 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And this he wasn't like Luda at the time, 385 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: but he was working on the radio and he like 386 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: New Scarface and he just like told me it was good, 387 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: and these these other guys that was hustling, they put 388 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: this project together like maybe twist song, so it's kind 389 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: of like a compilation. But I had one solo song 390 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: and then me and Dollar had a song, and like 391 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: Dollar was like literally at this time, he was probably 392 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: made like five years ahead of me as far as 393 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: just being an artist, like lyrical ability, being able to 394 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: paint pictures, flow, just everything, you know what I'm saying. 395 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: I just was not there yet, you know what I'm saying. 396 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: And he was more like, um, I think the focus 397 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: for the O G s at the time, and then 398 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: he ended up getting locked up, Dolly getting locked up. 399 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: So I end up trying to make myself the focus. 400 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if they saw it at the 401 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: time the vision of the time, because they was kind 402 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: of like, wait, you know Dollar, which was just something 403 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: you had to I had to respect at the time, 404 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: but that compilation end up. Um had little faith on there, 405 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: who is best friends with Luda, you know what I'm saying, 406 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: And he took it a little to a loud. It 407 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: was like, y'all put this together by yourself. And this 408 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: is around the time that everybody's trying to be independent 409 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: and shop stuff. And it was just something that I 410 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: grew off of that really locked down my notion of 411 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: me being artists just because of just you know, the 412 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: the featback that got that I got from it disturbing 413 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: the piece. Mm hmmm, talk about that the starting the piece. 414 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: I end up I end up signing with Ludicrous after 415 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: this company all this right here, I end up signing 416 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: with Loudle got my voice, set up my first bank account. 417 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: How Ever, I was shoebox Tony go Um. You know 418 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: I learned, I actually learned to learn. I learned a 419 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: lot from from loudon and being under Disturbingtive Peace. I 420 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: think that was like it was good. It was good 421 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: for me to go through that. Man, A lot of 422 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: young artists have a lot to learn before they're getting again. 423 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: It's just more than a song, you know what I'm saying. 424 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: This is really a personality based kind of feel Man. 425 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: You got no ide drips talk to people from do 426 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: do what we're doing? Um, I know how to entertain. 427 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: You got a lot of do shows. It's just a 428 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: whole lot of things, and so being around them, I 429 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: learned a lot of this stuff. I learned how to 430 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: talk on the radio. I learned how to I learned 431 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: how to learn, you know, and uh, it was it was. 432 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: It was a brief error, but even in that era, 433 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: I felt like I was bigger than the situation I 434 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: was in. No, you definitely you definitely what you definitely 435 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: thought that, Like, no, you were like trust me, yeah, no, 436 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: trust me, bro you say like that, No, this is 437 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: big Tony today Tony, but he was in his mind 438 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: and now he dressed all that, it was still that. 439 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: It was still all that. Yeah, it was always been that. 440 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: It always been that the whole time, even before the 441 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: music pop like that. It was always it was still that. 442 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: Now I'm still that respect that's what. Yeah. Yeah, I 443 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: didn't want to no ten your challenge twenty I was 444 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: riding for in twenties. Yeah, them like, yeah, I still 445 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: got my shop. I'm a hoarder. You still got the 446 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: BMW No not that, and I still got the poort 447 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: that we go back to had I had so my 448 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: my my friends were so shy. I guess you can 449 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: call them friends, right, they shysty. I had a black 450 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: BMW seven four or five. And then I started getting 451 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: some money and I was like, you know they made 452 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: seven fifties. Now this around the Being of Time era 453 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: where like you know, meet them my switching cars and 454 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: they just ruying thirty lambos at once, and I'm just like, man, 455 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: these are nice men. Him together, we're going to club, 456 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: that's what we're seeing. Yeah, I'm not going to pick 457 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: this out. So I'm like, man, I'm going to get 458 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: a new car. I go to the lot and I'm like, man, 459 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: I think I'm had to get another black one because 460 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: if they if I get a different color, they're gonna 461 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: know this a new car. And I'm from an era 462 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: with there your friends are robbed you and then like 463 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: help you look for the robiga that I saw some niggas. 464 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: I saw the car thieves in my neighborhood one time, 465 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: and my neighbor k Not said, they're trying to steal 466 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: your car. Come outside and the car thieves was coming 467 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: up my apartments and hit the speedbump and they turn 468 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: on me. What's going on? What's going on? I said, Man, 469 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: somebody trying to steal my car. They're like, well, I'm 470 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: like I'm looking at them. I'm like ship man, and 471 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: so I'm from that era. So I literally had to 472 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: beamers for like a period of time. That was like 473 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: I had one beam I had it brand new when 474 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: there was like twenty extra. You know, my friends would 475 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: look at say it looks different. Did you get new 476 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: rams or something. I'm like, yeah, it's new rooms. It's 477 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: new rooms. But it's just it's crazy. Who I saw 478 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: Peewee last night, you know what I mean? You know 479 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: he could talk, and I say, he said, you ain't 480 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: gonna he telling them? He telling the people. He went like, 481 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: how we was on the south side. Come on, he 482 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: was around, so he got to tell when we were around. 483 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: Yet him around. I was working with you and going 484 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: state like was seven out there? Yeah he moved. So 485 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: he said some ship last night, Like, uh, man, you 486 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: always knew, you know, you always had your business. My 487 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: member used to come to the Gamblet house and now something. 488 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: To be honest, you were so you were so nosy, 489 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: I said, when I was just dropping them bags off, 490 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 1: I go back in the biouns in front of you 491 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: just to throw you off because I knew you talked 492 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: too much. I said, that's crazy. But but man, it's 493 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: just like man, come from where we come from. It's 494 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: like people smile. You could mean these your brothers. But 495 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: if people get down and out, man, they'll tie you up. 496 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 1: Your brother you mentioned meet You know Jack had a 497 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: story about Beach but being from there in that era, 498 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: what was that now? Seeing do you have you have 499 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: your chance to see the show? Oh yeah, thoughts on 500 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: the show and how fit he put that together and 501 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: a little meat and the job he's doing. Yeah, I 502 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: think little Mes doing that crub but superstar, you know, 503 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: shout out a little miets Yeah. Um, I speak to 504 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: meach often. I speak to the sister often. Um. You know, 505 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: it's a part of the show that I didn't know 506 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: him at You know what I'm saying, it's early in 507 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: their life, right, you know, I mean I just normally. 508 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: I remember when they came into one twelve, two hundred 509 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: deep Magic City, yeah, with you know, black bandannas, and 510 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: when we didn't even when you one twelve used to 511 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 1: have to wear like at least Timberland boot. You couldn't 512 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: wear like, you know, dickies and shorts, and them niggers 513 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: came in there at one time, and it seem like 514 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: they wasn't gonna never stop coming in it. I haven't 515 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: even never seen two hundred of people hanging together people, yeah, 516 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: every every weekend. And then you know it was some errors, 517 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: but it was it was some It was good to 518 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: be a part of if you were able to you know, 519 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: see it. It It was very um you know I used 520 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: this right here. Man, You either influence I mean you 521 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: either inspired by something of your hater one of the other. Yeah, 522 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: ain't know a great area, you know, so you see 523 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: something you like, you'd be like, that's nice, man, I 524 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: like that. Oh you say some haying ship ain't no great. 525 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know what I mean. 526 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: So for me, when I see something, man, it inspires 527 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: me to want to work, you know, like I want 528 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: a bigger house in Cali. I want I want some 529 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: more stuff. I'm not content. So the only way I 530 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: know how to get this stuff is to work for us. 531 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: So I'm just staying up all night. I'm kind of 532 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: fatigued now. I came here with an energy drink because 533 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: I was up all night trying to get what I want. 534 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So Yeah. Supplied to band 535 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: Oh seven Drops deffel Back Boys take the World by 536 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: Storm featuring Little Wayne. How bad uh? That song come together. 537 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: I've been I was friends with a little one very. 538 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: I've actually met Baby actually met b G first, which 539 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: is crazy free b G. I met b G first. 540 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,479 Speaker 1: He was in Atlanta and then I was in UH. 541 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: I was in Patchwork. So at this time, I was 542 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: using my little hustle money to get studio time in 543 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: a building where I thought on artists would be at. 544 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I just wanted to be 545 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: in the same building. It's real artists, so you know 546 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. At this time, I booked me some 547 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: studio time at Patchwork and they told me Baby from 548 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: cash Money needed some weed, you know what I'm saying. 549 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: In the eight room or so. I was in the 550 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: be room. So I um, I go see him, you 551 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And they looked, you know, like 552 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: they looked on TV largs and their life and I, 553 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: you know, like I served them. You know what I'm saying. 554 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: But this is crazy. I don't even know if you 555 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: remembers this. Like he asked me to take them to 556 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: the mall, like showing the local I wrote them to 557 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: the mall. He had like you know, people with them, 558 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: and they all would like getting dressed in the store, 559 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: like leaving the clothes they had there at the store 560 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: getting dressed, and I was just in the corner like 561 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: one of them like you're gonna you know what I'm saying, 562 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: You're gonna get something, and I was like, you know no, 563 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: I was just kind of chilling out, like I couldn't 564 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: remember my dad really buying me nothing at this particular time. 565 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: And it was like, you know, baby, like say, Slam, 566 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: you ain't gonna get nothing, Like yeah, I guess, I mean, 567 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: I guess. You know, he's a little timla. I got 568 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: like a little outfit and I was like, damn it 569 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: bought me something, you know what I'm saying. So he 570 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: still hadn't paid me for the the week, you know 571 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So they was like going to New 572 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: Orleans and I was like I didn't know how to 573 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: really I knew how to ask him, but I don't 574 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: really know how to ask him. Like about my little 575 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: it was it was like full fifth at the time, 576 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Needed He's like, yeah, yeah, Slim, 577 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: you want to go to the world. In my head, 578 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm like about this weed, I guess I am. Now 579 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: I go to fucking New Orleans. They got this before Katrina. 580 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: They got matches, they got a mansion for the crew 581 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: that he gotta imagine, you know, boom so Tom got 582 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: some kind of fast as poor she write down. They're 583 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: like that boy, you know they're talking about him. That's shorty. 584 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: So he end coming to the mansion and we built 585 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: a rapport off of that, you know what I'm saying, 586 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: because he was like the only cash money artist left. 587 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: Everybody else was gone, and they was trying to revamp 588 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: and do something else. And you know, I figure out 589 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: like I'm like, I got good weed. I'm down here, 590 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, you know, I mean, I'm just built off that. 591 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: And he threw my name in a song like so 592 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: long ago. I was like sitting in the line and 593 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: hurt my name in the song, like man, this nig 594 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: cool as hell, you know what I'm saying, And every 595 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: sinse then we just so he just really been there 596 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: for each you know, that's very similar too. He's a 597 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: little bit more different, but no, I mean he know 598 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: he ain't. But yeah, I mean after going everything you've 599 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: been through, the grinds you've been through, what was it 600 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: like really starting to hear your ship on the radio 601 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: all the time. Did you feel like you had made 602 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: it at that point? I still don't think I made 603 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: I love that, and that's crazy, man. I still be yearning. 604 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm still passionate. I still want to, you know, feel out, 605 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: stay from the rain. I still want to, still won't. 606 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: I ain't lying, chick, And I'm in a position to 607 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: do other things. Man, I'd be knowing. I'd be talking 608 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: to people to be talking about it. I'm thirty six 609 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: million years. They ain't got nothing to do with music, 610 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: and I'll be like, what damned? Maybe you just need 611 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: to get up and put a suit on in the morning. 612 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: But I still love this right here. I do. But 613 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm in a position. I'm in a circle now with 614 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: man people, investors, investments, you know what I'm saying. And 615 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: it looked like it would shot me away from there. 616 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: But I truly love what I truly love what I do. 617 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: Did you ever get your money from him? Well, that's it, 618 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah I did, damn little bit. I asked him about it, 619 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: Like damn. I can tell you how long ago it was, 620 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: bro y'all. Remember when they had the the this is 621 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: the Funnies Ship of the World. Remember the Cadillac was 622 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: then e X T or something. Yeah, I got one 623 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: paint of red and then he got like archy seats 624 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: or something in the right, and so he came in say, 625 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: slam go check out the swine. You know, he's talking 626 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: about swine on my seats all this. I'm like, damn, 627 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: it's nice. What is mom? But I end up getting 628 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: that in there. Uh, And you know, he ended up 629 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: being like Slick a mentor for some time. Man, baby 630 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: got plenty of wisdom, you know, And I'm just you know, 631 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: everything just happened for a reason. But it's some stuff 632 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: I can look back on and just tell. I could 633 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: tell somebody, man, you ain't been through it, for real, 634 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: you ain't did this. You ain't have to go through this. 635 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: Change your name. The two chains how they came about, 636 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I was doing a mixtape with Bigger 637 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: Ranking and he was I was, you know, I'm saying 638 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: two chains all in my song. Man, this is just 639 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: really something that God really totally took control of because 640 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, during and that's why I looked at the disturbing. 641 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: The peace era was like a little trial period because 642 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: when I you know, titty Boy was a name from 643 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: the streets. Tip my mom do call me that. So 644 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: when it was trying to wrap, I couldn't think of 645 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: like mc fucking whatever the funk everybody was. I can't 646 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: even thinking that. I just was like Tip, But I'm 647 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: not realizing when I go tell people my name is 648 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: Tito Titty, but they're like, oh, you know, they just 649 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: like like a book cover that they're just not sucking with. 650 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: They're just not even trying to open the book. The 651 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: outside of it so fucked up, you know what I'm saying. 652 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you know the too change. Man, I literally 653 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: got a pitch in the eighth grade with me wearing 654 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: two necklaces on, Like it's not photoshop. I literally have 655 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: been this kid that used to hustle and go to 656 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: the fleet market and by jury. My uncle rest in Peace, 657 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: who just died last year. Man, this thought he thought 658 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: he was them to miss the t That's how many 659 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: gold chains and diamonds he used to wear, you know 660 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, nugget rings. And I just have been 661 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: intrigued by jury since I could think of it. And 662 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what a two change came from. I 663 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: don't know what dad happened. I don't know anything, but 664 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: when it happened, man, my life changed. Crazy. You released 665 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: a mix tape Tied the Tru True Religion, which became 666 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: your first mix tape to peer high on the music charts. 667 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: What was your decision to release that rather than the 668 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: studio album the mixtape that a regular album. What this 669 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: time I was going solo. I was still trying to 670 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: create a buzz in the streets. You know what I'm saying. 671 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: That was away at the time. Yeah, that was the 672 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: way that was to move, you know how mixtapes. It 673 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: was my gangster grills too. I hadn't done against the grills, 674 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: and I was using that really to get hot. I 675 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: was telling folks, I'm the hottest nigg in the city 676 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: without a gangster career. Let drumming them know what. I'm 677 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 1: letting people know it, you know what I'm saying. Just 678 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: like now, I feel like I've done a lot of 679 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: things in the industry without some of the cheat sheets 680 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: have been they have been used in the industry. Now 681 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: I have used some cheat sheets obviously, Like I feel 682 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: like if anybody do a song with Drake is gonna 683 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: help your career. Kanye is gonna help your career. So 684 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: a couple of people. But it's a couple man, you know, 685 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,479 Speaker 1: industry cheat she said, I just ain't had a chance 686 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: to use just got through it. But truely, and that 687 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: was just the thing to do at the time. I 688 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: was hot with him. Yeah, absolutely, and I end up 689 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: doing um you know, at this time. It created so 690 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: much leverage when I went into these offices. When I 691 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: went into these labels, I didn't have to do a 692 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: three sixty deal. I didn't have to you know, I 693 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: damn that had a Ricky Williams football contract. Every touchdown 694 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: I was getting a bonus. You know what I'm saying. 695 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: I just set up some my own weight of my 696 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: own my own contract due to the leverage from from 697 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: the True Religion mixtape. Talk to about us about true 698 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: Life with Drake. He said he was one of the 699 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: cheat sheets and how big that was. It was life 700 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: different after that. Yeah, my life was yeah, my levelage, 701 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, I met I met Drake on tour Wayne 702 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: like maybe oh eight like before you know a lot 703 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: of it, well for a lot of us, you don 704 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: knew who he was or whatever. So I met him 705 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: then and we you know, just been been cool. And 706 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: I remember seeing him at an All Star game, maybe 707 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: around or something like this. And I had a studio 708 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: bus and I told him I had some from and 709 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: I sent it to him, which I didn't though, and 710 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: he was like, sent him, like damn okay. So then 711 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 1: I went to my bus and I used to do this, Man, 712 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: this is no lie. Man, I used to do this. 713 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 1: I used to be like man, and I'm not God, 714 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: and this makes sense, I hope, don't nobody take this wrong. 715 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: But I used to really pick out beasts like man 716 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: who deserved this blessing. You know what I'm saying. I 717 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,439 Speaker 1: swear I used to be like that. And at the time, 718 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: I just it was Mike wheel Man. He just worked ethic, 719 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: was like through the roof. And I put up this 720 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: Mike wheel beat in the head, like a little part 721 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: of the beat where I was like, man, I just 722 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,479 Speaker 1: feel like trail, just you have a melody right here, 723 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: and it's just like man. So I did a verse 724 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: and I sent it to him, and you know, the 725 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: rest is just history versus history. And that was my 726 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: first plaque, and it was Mike Will's first plaque of 727 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: many since then, you know, from the door two thousand 728 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: seventeen you receive your your first Grammy for Best Rap Performance, 729 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: uh On a chance on No Problem featuring Wayne Um 730 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: after being nominated a handful of the time. So it 731 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: was it like to get your first one. Didn't you 732 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: perform that on Ellen too? Yeah? It was it was 733 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: It was a It was a It was a blessing. Man. 734 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: I always wanted to. I know, people don't really care 735 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 1: about don't I do. I mean, albums come from where 736 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: I come from. I ain't never think I would get 737 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: my still and you know what, I still want one 738 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: on my own, you know, like one of my records 739 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: they have people on it. But you know, this was 740 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 1: a chance record, and this is another scenario like where 741 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: I had, you know, kind of put the record together, 742 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: like he wanted tune on the song, you know what 743 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I just was like he loved a 744 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 1: rap here in the studio every night. So I usually 745 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: call Way and it's some footage somewhere where I'm letting 746 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 1: him know we gotta gram me somewhere skating at the Wars. 747 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: Happy is here, like, well, what's going on? Like we won? 748 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: And he don't even know what he on the ramp somewhere. 749 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: But if you're talking about the ashes blunting this grammar. 750 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 1: But yeah, man, it felt it felt good if if 751 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: it was good to do that. August he did the 752 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: verses with Wick Ross. How did that come about it? 753 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: When was it? Like? It was cool? Man? I had 754 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: originally asked I had where I said meet Meal. At 755 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: first I said Meat, let's do it versus and then 756 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: either Swizz somebodw like maybe meet somebody would like, no, 757 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: We're not gonna do it, because it was you know, 758 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: when it first started off, you just wanted to get 759 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: get on there, and that was different. Like if I 760 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: do it again now, I think it would be more performance, 761 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: it would be more personality. At this time, it was 762 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: like a respect thing and it still is a respect thing, 763 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so somebody called me 764 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 1: about Ross and I was like, man, let's do Ross. Man. 765 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 1: Me and him have been partnered since the white beam 766 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: of days, you know what I'm saying, and uh, because 767 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: he's literally stay on the south side, you know what 768 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying, used to stay on the south side or 769 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: whatever I still does. And so when I came about 770 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: it was was definitely in the middle of like when 771 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: COVID was like super uppredictable. Everybody backstage. It was very limited, 772 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: but everybody backstage maxed up um um. Some of the 773 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: things that you know staying that was you know, you know, 774 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: the strippers for me, him getting the massage. It still 775 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: has a little still had his and stuff going on, 776 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: but you know it was cool. Man. Ross is a 777 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: really dope artists as Meek mil you know what I'm saying, 778 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: and as myself, and I think people know, but I 779 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: still be like thinking people don't know. You know how 780 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 1: many plaques that are just like every time that I've dropped, Man, 781 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: I've been blessed enough to bring home a plaque, man, 782 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: And that means I have some real hardcore fans and 783 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: I just have um something that the people want. I 784 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: want to seek for a long period of time. I 785 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: think that's a bless longevity. Jay Z mentioned about a 786 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: month ago that he didn't feel like anyone could be 787 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: standing on the stage with him. Started a lot of 788 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: buzz at third through. Who's three people you feel like 789 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 1: would be a good battle for Jay jay Is definitely 790 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: he definitely wanted you want to be kind um. You know, 791 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: he got the charisma stage president, he got the songs. 792 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: I think Wayne has the stage president charisma. I think 793 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: he got the songs. I think Drake got the stage 794 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: president Charisma, got the songs. So you got a few people. 795 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah got the stage President's charisma songs. So 796 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: you know, you get to the degree that we got. 797 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: We got a few artists that we are alive to 798 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: see right now. Just man, I said tune. I went 799 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,919 Speaker 1: on Instagram and I've been going out of the people. 800 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: I say, tune, got tune, got something Tune. He's gonna 801 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: get on it. He's gonna take his shirt off, he's 802 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: gonna start looking like he have. You know, he's gonna 803 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: be it's gonna be different. But hold, it's super charismatic too. 804 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: I just think I just think we're allied with It's 805 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: just real cool time either one of these people we 806 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: talked about drop a record of moronment. Yeah, crazy man, 807 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: But it's crazy to to to to really just appreciate it, 808 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: because most people don't. I feel like it's the same 809 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 1: way in sports. Everyone wants to talk crazy about bronze 810 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: staph James instead of just understanding, like what your witness, 811 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: what greatness? Man step literally looks like he's throwing the ball. 812 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: It doesn't at some time it doesn't even it looks 813 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: like it becomes a form like after like when it's 814 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: boy the ram, it's like a goose s neck, but 815 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: from here it just looks like he watching that, like 816 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: to just know what a ram is every time? Man, 817 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: it's crazy. He literally can do this. I feel like 818 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: with one, I I feel like the mother get shoot one. 819 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: Not man, he knows where that mother is. He said 820 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: they got Laci too. Now you can see the rim better. 821 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 1: I think he got last year. I think, yeah, that 822 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: might be crazy if he was blind this whole time. 823 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: That's crazy, right, just to know that ship is that? Um, 824 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: hit after hit, you said you've been blessed to continue 825 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: to bring home plaques to this day. Can you pick 826 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: a favorite or the more special more specialty? Absolutely, I'm different. 827 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: And the reasons I'm different is because, um, when you 828 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: do a song, it has a hundred you know, publishing 829 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 1: whatever you want to say, right, the producer gets for 830 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: making the beat like and if there's no samples or 831 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: anything like that, they get. The other fifty is the 832 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: artist or who elp was on the song? That was 833 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,720 Speaker 1: just me, It wasn't nobody on the hook. Didn't nobody 834 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: give me a line, didn't nobody to say you ought 835 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: to talk about being different? I remember, I know where 836 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 1: I was when it went platinum. I was in London 837 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: and at this time I was on I didn't know 838 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: a lot that was plat my dear Mercy, that was platinum. 839 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: It was like I couldn't miss. But deep down there 840 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: my soul, when I looked in the mirror, I said, boy, 841 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: you ain't did this by yourself. You know what I'm saying. 842 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,720 Speaker 1: I wann't trying to act like my ship and then start, 843 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They could do something with 844 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: one of the cheat sheets and act like this ship. 845 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: Don't staying like you know what I'm saying. So I 846 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: do know I'm different. It's just me, and it's just me, 847 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: and it's just my idea. And over a million people 848 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: liked it, over a million, over three million people like 849 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: this idea that I thought of. Counter you know what 850 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know Drake did the hook on No Lie, 851 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, So let me let's just be real. 852 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: You know. I have a few more records solo, but 853 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 1: that first solo record, I feel like I got jumped 854 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: in the game. Yeah. Um, you've been blessed to work 855 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: with a lot of different people. Are there a few 856 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: people still you haven't got a chance to work with 857 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: that you'd like to? Yeah, it's cool. M m yeah, 858 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: anybody you want to name put that out there. I'm 859 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: through with that. That alright. Ufter this point, who's your? 860 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: You feel like you're in your opinion? Your Your funnest 861 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: collab was with my Fun Fun Fun Collapse. Let me see, 862 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: HOLLI grow one too. Anything I do it with Wayne 863 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: is fun. First of the new we're working on color 864 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: Grove too now and it will be ill. I don't 865 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: want to say April, but man, that was It was 866 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: really fun because we were in a room a lot 867 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: of times doing this and it wasn't just email and 868 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: what you think. We were actually watching ESPN or UFC 869 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: fight for hours and then like recording or going to 870 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: live the process of Yeah, man, this album is super fun. 871 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: I love working with Tune. I love working with you 872 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: because whatever you left it as it's not gonna sound 873 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: like that. So it's like just like wanting to know 874 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 1: what brother in to do. Yeah, you know, the boys 875 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: called me one day said like you know Mercy coming 876 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: out to Mark it's gonna be a single. And I 877 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: had done like when I first like started working with you. 878 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: Then it's like they booked the whole hotel out in 879 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 1: the whole top floor with studios, and the studio was 880 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: right across my room and everybody was in there, like 881 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,800 Speaker 1: Tiana Side had like all the artists, you know what 882 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying, And yeah, he's not there. So it's like 883 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 1: he's almost like trying to give me like a little test. 884 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,479 Speaker 1: So you have some tracks pulled up that he wants 885 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: me to do, you know what I'm saying. So I 886 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: go through one track, I go South and can smoke, 887 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: and Jake called him like, yeah, he's done, him saying 888 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,399 Speaker 1: like what you mean, No, Like no, he's done, because 889 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,399 Speaker 1: like you gonna work on songs for like a year, 890 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: not you know what, like you're done, You're done done. 891 00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: Pull up this one, not that, but y'all, bro, don't 892 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 1: that man, Okay, pull up this one. So like four 893 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: records later, I am saying no, bro. You know, they 894 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: get asked me, do you you must have had all 895 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,359 Speaker 1: these verses wrote down I already I said no, I'm 896 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 1: just doing I mean, you know, what I'm saying. I 897 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: don't care who in the room right now. I do 898 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: a whole song from all these people, you know what 899 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I did it. They called me, said 900 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: that song you did Mercy, I'm like Mercy. Which one 901 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 1: was that? Like it's gonna be a single? I said, 902 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 1: When I did, it didn't sound like it could be 903 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 1: no single. I said that you get on there, like, yeah, 904 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 1: you got on it. So they played to me for 905 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: me over the phone and it didn't sound on nothing left, 906 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: you know, it was my verse, but man, everything else 907 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 1: was and that at that point there, I started trying 908 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: to pay a little bit more attention to music, be 909 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more detail. After I realized what people 910 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: who were kind of at the top, we're doing to 911 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 1: be at the top. You know. It just wasn't just 912 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 1: like taking this and being done with it. They it 913 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,800 Speaker 1: was a process and they still was seasons and adding 914 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: different ingredients to it. And that was my first time 915 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 1: being a part of that process. Looking it up. Who 916 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: was some of the younger UH rappers in the game, 917 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: you like these days? Some of the young boys. Man, 918 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: my album thank You, I can start telling my my 919 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,880 Speaker 1: new album don't sell itself. It's full because I had 920 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: put out a memo saying it's my last trap album Wanted, 921 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: which is not really my last trapped around, but just 922 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,720 Speaker 1: all of it being in one space. Don't don't sell itself. 923 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,439 Speaker 1: It's almost gen Z Base like Millennial base. I got 924 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 1: all the artists, and I would say they up and coming, 925 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 1: but they ain't going the way they're here. I got 926 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 1: money Bag, little Baby, Roddy dirk Um dry Queeze, my artist, 927 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 1: Sleepy Rolls. I have well SWEDEI sleep yeah sleep, I 928 00:47:55,560 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 1: have Swedee. I have Stove God he's from Syracuse. I 929 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 1: got Simble from the Worst. That's the Homy shout out Simble. 930 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:12,800 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah man. So uh am super happy about clashing 931 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 1: my o G veteran talk with the young with the 932 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 1: young flavor. You know what I'm saying. I'm really uh, 933 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to get some feedback off the new project. 934 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,320 Speaker 1: Talk about your basketball career, bro, and you're playing a 935 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: lot of slab games. I played the slab game for you, 936 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: but I think the one I played in was your 937 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: best one. Uh you performed in I don't know if 938 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: it was because I was out there and you was 939 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 1: trying to outdo me. But you really, you really showed 940 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 1: you really impressed me that game. Ever since then, I 941 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 1: don't know what happened. Ain't seen no good highlights now 942 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: because the game, because we were actually playing in the 943 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: game I played in which we was actually playing, like 944 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 1: you actually came warmed up, had to shoot like you 945 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: showed up earlier. It's good to play with people. How 946 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: do I say this? To really play? How do I 947 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,879 Speaker 1: say this? All right, y'all are NBA players now this 948 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: is let me let me get in this. How you 949 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: NBA player imagine? And you this is just something you 950 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:24,839 Speaker 1: can relate to because you have great passes. You come down, pump, fake, 951 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 1: behind the back, past, just go out of bounds. Do 952 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: you passed the two looking at you like, so that 953 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: happens you come down again? No? Look, now you're starting 954 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 1: to look crazy because can't nobody catch your path? Yeah, 955 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 1: now you look like why this guy that they even 956 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: saying you sorry? Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And 957 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 1: so for me, a lot of the cliff that you 958 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,279 Speaker 1: see me put up is like the last game that 959 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 1: I put up, the last game that I actually played 960 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: that I can remember that I put up with this 961 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: summer when I played with with Trey and Brad and 962 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 1: and Carmelo and all these guys you know over here 963 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 1: with drew up in California. When I go play with them, 964 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: and you know, I had two or three buckers with them, 965 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 1: And it was because I think the level of competition, 966 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 1: because I know, I know they know how to play, 967 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 1: and I know I know how to catch the ball, 968 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: and I know if I thought it like, I know, 969 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: they got to hit you right in the mouth for 970 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: you to catch it right, I know you know how 971 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: to catch. It just makes me happy to play with, 972 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 1: especially people whose skill set is higher than mine or 973 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 1: something that, yeah, like mine. But if somebody really can't 974 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 1: play basketball that good, it's just just kind of take 975 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 1: my my energy away. You know. It's just and I was, 976 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: and I was for a long time, for a long time, 977 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 1: for a long time, Bran And I don't know, this 978 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: might be a problem with people might not know how 979 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: real ill I am in in the booth, but a 980 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 1: long time, that's how I treated the music game. I 981 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: did it according to competition. So if it wasn't like 982 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 1: Drake or Yeah or whatever, I wasn't like, you know, 983 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,800 Speaker 1: all the songs with the big ones, I'm I'm mopping 984 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: the floor. But then I would get like a pop 985 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 1: record and not be like, man, I can't. I can't 986 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: give them all this, you know what I'm saying. When 987 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: in actuality, Lebron, don't water it down for no nobody. 988 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 1: You come out there not no doud. You don't get 989 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 1: your grass throw, you know what I'm saying. Kobe, don't 990 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 1: take He's not since you and it literally took me 991 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 1: years to do that. And then basketball, I still ain't 992 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 1: there yet. Like if you game playing, I can play, 993 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 1: I just don't even want to because somebody gonna get hurt. 994 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: It's just something ain't gonna be right. I'm just not 995 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 1: into it like that. But in music, if you ain't 996 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: all the way there, I don't care. It's exposure time. 997 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm exposing. But once upon a time I could get 998 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: a record from an artist who ain't seen you know 999 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,359 Speaker 1: what I mean. Maybe it's somebody that ain't got all 1000 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 1: the bars and I kind of playing around tiptoe with it, 1001 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But didn't have a record 1002 00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 1: with you know, god knows who and really show up 1003 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 1: and show out. But now I'm at the point of 1004 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: my career in the last couple of years with no 1005 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 1: matter what it has to be. He was letting the 1006 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 1: run point. He ran point that day too, so he 1007 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: really thought he was magic Johnson there. You should have 1008 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 1: seen it, and you don't want to talk about legs 1009 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 1: all kind of he thought he the first thing he 1010 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: came here to challenge us to a shootout outside the 1011 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 1: first thing he did when he came here. Who the 1012 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 1: best celeft you played against in the game. I think 1013 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 1: Quabo can hoop? I think Chris Brown could, who Braisy 1014 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: and who? Like? Let me think it's a few people 1015 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 1: thinking actually whop if they you know, probably got us 1016 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 1: all together, there's probably be one good game because a 1017 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: lot of us, you know, smoke, It's probably one good 1018 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: on the second or third game. And started kind of 1019 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: understand like we get to smoke the whole entire season 1020 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 1: because coming out of the game training, but it would 1021 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,240 Speaker 1: be trained to do it. You trained, y'are not taking 1022 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 1: two months off then y'all still lose from the leg 1023 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: Actually was helping y'all and he was doing a full 1024 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,800 Speaker 1: workout there as soon as we was, before we even shower. 1025 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 1: We were smoking in the car shut off. That's got 1026 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: to do it. That's had a little bit. My partner 1027 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 1: did he want his parents and know he smoked. He 1028 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 1: taking ship out, put it in the back, back fold up, 1029 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: put the trunk under some ship man, she's still on 1030 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: You remember me calling you after the Jack Harlow and 1031 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,799 Speaker 1: Quibo game man. So many people called me after the 1032 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 1: Jack Hallow man a game was worth like a million 1033 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,320 Speaker 1: dollars or some ship man. Yeah, I I called this, 1034 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: go ahead, break it down to it. You broke it 1035 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 1: down to like, come on, bro it was it was 1036 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 1: we got, we got beat, we got we got definitely beat. 1037 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 1: Quite play good. Jack Harlow was more like a lamb 1038 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 1: Beer type of player. I just felt like he was 1039 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 1: just some like somebody in the middle, just like and 1040 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 1: then you know, maybe a player, maybe a player, you 1041 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Maybe just a player anything. He 1042 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 1: hadn't having boatloads of cash. Yeah million was like he 1043 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,919 Speaker 1: might even say some ship like I don't know, but 1044 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 1: um because I was like, I was like, you want 1045 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 1: to practice, you know what, like before the game, like 1046 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 1: let's just get together in the same court so we can. 1047 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,879 Speaker 1: And so I had been like maybe like a week 1048 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 1: a week before the game. I started shooting, just trying 1049 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 1: to get my rhythm back, you know what I'm saying, shooting, 1050 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 1: And then I think he came in with you to 1051 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech, Jim, and he came in and kind of 1052 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 1: warmed up the day before. Somebody that tried to get 1053 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 1: warmed up the day before. But you know what I'm saying, 1054 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,240 Speaker 1: you know, you know you I was in for some ship. Yeah, 1055 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 1: and then walk in, he walked in like he's getting fifty. Yeah. 1056 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:46,879 Speaker 1: I mean you know that. That's the part of being 1057 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 1: from Atlanta. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Very very high competence. 1058 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 1: It's a high confidence rate in Atlanta, you know. And um, 1059 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 1: you know it was it was. It was maybe kind 1060 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 1: of frustrating at the time, but it was it was 1061 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 1: actually fun, and you know it was fun. I don't 1062 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,360 Speaker 1: think I would have changed anything. It would have I 1063 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 1: would have had to be in really top shape to 1064 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,240 Speaker 1: really try to go at you know, both the guys 1065 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: those solo sip like that, and I would have had 1066 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 1: to have everything really working. J K package, the whole 1067 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 1: pack package. You gotta get a rebound, take it back 1068 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 1: and get them so then like they get them trying 1069 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,239 Speaker 1: to sit up it still being like, damn, I just 1070 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,280 Speaker 1: gonna be a long time. But I would do it again. 1071 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: You know, I would do it again. I would do 1072 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,919 Speaker 1: it again if somebody wanted to do it. I still 1073 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: love Who would you pick as a teammate? UM? Probably 1074 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,920 Speaker 1: probably probably quite boot him more than I. Who would 1075 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 1: you can't be quite because I got to go against 1076 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 1: him a hollow again right here on Harbold team. So 1077 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,359 Speaker 1: if I had to go, who else? CBS? Probably CB? 1078 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 1: I to go CB, C Ball, go c Man. I 1079 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 1: played the game with CB, and there's number of the 1080 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,760 Speaker 1: NBA Cats and the and CBR. They're going to work. 1081 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 1: You gotta handle too. Yeah, I think with anything though, 1082 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,720 Speaker 1: man like a lot of a lot of the Cats 1083 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:12,839 Speaker 1: begetting open runs, and that consistency keep you keep your 1084 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 1: joint open run. That's why I'm out of the NBA. 1085 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: We always catch you course side. At the Atlanta Hawks game, 1086 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 1: Trey Young is kind of giving you guys an organization 1087 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 1: some new life. What's it like, you guys? Uh? You 1088 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 1: quave A lot of rappers go out there, gooch all 1089 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 1: out their supporting. Uh. The Atlanta Hawks Slasher made a 1090 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,360 Speaker 1: nice run to the Eastern Conference finals. Um trying to 1091 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 1: find themselves this year. But talk to us about the 1092 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 1: Hawks men. I mean, we want them to have a 1093 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 1: good team. And you know, you've got so many people 1094 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 1: from Atlanta. We want to support that. We want them 1095 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 1: to we want them to be good. You know, Trey 1096 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,360 Speaker 1: Young has definitely giving us a lot of life, a 1097 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 1: lot of energy. I know people didn't you know about 1098 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 1: the trade at first with Luca or whatever. You know, 1099 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,279 Speaker 1: worked out worked out. I think it work. It worked 1100 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,839 Speaker 1: out for everyway right, it worked out. But Traded doing 1101 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 1: an excellent job in Atlanta, Man, he fissing perfectly. Not 1102 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 1: outside a lot of artists now artists, a lot of 1103 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 1: athletes that played for Atlanta. I'm sure Steve, you can 1104 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 1: attest it this. They'd be outside jerseys in the strip clubs. Yeah. 1105 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 1: But but but but honestly, man, you you don't see 1106 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 1: trade man traders traders that handing his business. And you know, 1107 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,479 Speaker 1: I can appreciate the passion, you know what I'm saying, 1108 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 1: like knowing behind scenes, like he's passionate about nice with 1109 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 1: some of the other young players you like to watch 1110 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 1: outside the tray brother Hawks A period period basketball, the 1111 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,080 Speaker 1: younger Cash, the younger Cash the younger Cash. I like Garland. Now, 1112 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 1: I like, uh when you talking about younger cash, young kids, 1113 00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 1: I like, uh right, my boy from Golden State Pool, Georgan, 1114 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 1: like you, Jordan's. I got a couple more that I 1115 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 1: just I like them. Um, And so you know, I 1116 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: got something to do with the G League. So a 1117 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,320 Speaker 1: lot of these guys that came to the G I 1118 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 1: like with Gary Payton Jr. Is Doing. Are you like 1119 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,480 Speaker 1: the grind if you talked to him to about that 1120 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 1: you are partial owner? Yeah, the college part of scott Hawks. 1121 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 1: So they like a byproduct of the Lanta Hawks. You 1122 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Kind of like for people that 1123 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: don't know, um G League. And this year, man, what 1124 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 1: I had due to covid Man, maybe three or four 1125 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 1: guys move up and get to play for the Hawks. Bro, bro, 1126 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 1: I remember you know what I'm saying. We're talking we 1127 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 1: got a new coach and everything. We're talking before the season, 1128 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 1: and we had a guy named our money went to 1129 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 1: the Houston Rockets and know how to another guy to 1130 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 1: get moved up. But see this is like, yeah, okay, 1131 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 1: so I didn't go to the league, but like me, 1132 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 1: being able to know somebody and get him in the league. 1133 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 1: It's just like me living by scariously through them and 1134 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 1: it just gives me like so much happiness. Right So, 1135 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm in this room with people and only maybe three 1136 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 1: guys came back from the previous year, and I'm looking 1137 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 1: around and I'm I'm really thinking, man, I wonder who 1138 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 1: could go. But anyway, I had a conversation like, man, 1139 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:29,080 Speaker 1: I want you to take this serious because you know, 1140 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 1: the only way to go from here is up. You 1141 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 1: could be in and I'm just saying this before you 1142 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And then you look up and 1143 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. A couple of them getting 1144 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 1: driss out on the bench and then they get to 1145 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 1: get in to say you really, it's on your resume. 1146 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that I started I started 1147 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:49,240 Speaker 1: out the D League back then, for real, back then. Yeah, 1148 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 1: and like I called up to the Clippers and played 1149 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 1: fourteen years, that ten day turned out of that. That's 1150 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 1: what That's what I'm saying. If you take advantage of 1151 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,520 Speaker 1: that right there, you know what I'm saying. If you 1152 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,919 Speaker 1: get in, man, I'm telling you, this ship could change 1153 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,480 Speaker 1: your life. So I don't know, being a part of 1154 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,600 Speaker 1: that it's like, man, so refreshing in the position. Yeah, man, 1155 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 1: And it makes me pay attention to guys who don't 1156 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,600 Speaker 1: get drafted, guys who don't got a big name. You 1157 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's just it'd be certain circumstances 1158 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 1: that put you in the g leaguer. Ain't because you 1159 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 1: ain't having no game, you know what I'm saying. So um, Anyway, 1160 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 1: it's a lot of you know, New York cast that 1161 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm fans of. I like, uh my boy from Houston. 1162 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 1: I like two three cats, Houston Boys, the Porter. Yeah, 1163 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 1: that Jalen boy. I like his. I like his motor. 1164 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 1: They already fly fly to be running. I like him. 1165 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 1: And those are something the guys I talk about. All 1166 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,360 Speaker 1: the stuff you got going online and not just a 1167 01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 1: sky Hawks. You got the basketball, you got the nel salon. 1168 01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 1: You don't know what fifty plus properties like give them. 1169 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 1: You know. But Escobar made you miss your honeymoon, didn't it. 1170 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 1: That ain't made me miss a lot of ships. He 1171 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 1: came night, he came to Escobar after his I went 1172 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 1: back to the hotel is too high? Yeah, yeah, I 1173 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,400 Speaker 1: came and uh so I have a restaurant and then 1174 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 1: I have a few restaurants in Atlanta, but they yeah, 1175 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 1: Escobar so Escobar is um a lounge in the top 1176 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 1: of the place. Has great food, great ViBe's great energy, 1177 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,160 Speaker 1: and people actually go after their wedding. You can ask Steve. 1178 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,280 Speaker 1: It's a nice place to go. Uh. Me and my 1179 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,120 Speaker 1: partner Snoop have owned this spot. Snoop, We've owned this 1180 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,919 Speaker 1: spot for five years. I have another spot just had anniversary. Yeah, 1181 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 1: I had an anniversary for that. Then I had an 1182 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 1: anniversary from my spot called Esco Esco South South that's 1183 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 1: been open two years. And then we have another restaurant 1184 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 1: was only members only that we're revamping and we're about 1185 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 1: to name that Esco Slash. I can't even Esco Pizza 1186 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 1: be looking out for that. And then I have one 1187 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 1: called Esco Seafood that we actually opened during the pandemic. Yeah, 1188 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,920 Speaker 1: and that that's doing real good. It's on Edgewood and 1189 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,960 Speaker 1: it just has nothing but great seafood for all you've lost. 1190 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:22,080 Speaker 1: The lovers like myself and uh nails. I have Pamper 1191 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 1: nails salon that mine ain't looking at all like they're 1192 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 1: supposed to look right now. But I'm mentor like grooming 1193 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,320 Speaker 1: and take care of myself. And it's for males and females. 1194 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 1: Everything is unique. So dope vibe Jack get a disking 1195 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 1: on his feet in there. Yeah man, they pull out 1196 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 1: the mom jumper cable jumped them boys off. But yeah, man, 1197 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:48,720 Speaker 1: I have prose property wise, I own, man. I own, 1198 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 1: you know, apartment building that I'm about to start working 1199 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 1: on re rehabbing. Own. Yeah, own maybe seventeen properties. Um 1200 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 1: m hm, yeah, I own. I own some things, own 1201 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:09,720 Speaker 1: some things business. I just like to highlight that because 1202 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 1: you know you're my boy. You know what I'm saying, 1203 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 1: and I I always knew your mind frame. So to 1204 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,280 Speaker 1: see you know what I'm saying, all this stuff coming 1205 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 1: to fruition, you know what I'm saying. It makes it 1206 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,160 Speaker 1: make me proud to thank you man. That's all for sure, 1207 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,600 Speaker 1: quick hitters man. First thing to come to mind. Let 1208 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 1: us know if you could be remembered by one bar 1209 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 1: or lyric in your career, which one would it be? 1210 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:40,320 Speaker 1: And why one barred lyric in my career? Mm hmm man. True, true, 1211 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:45,600 Speaker 1: I'll go for that. True. That's a good one. Top 1212 01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 1: five rappers all time excluding me. Um, I like uh 1213 01:03:53,440 --> 01:04:05,200 Speaker 1: Wayne Hove based three k two sleepers and I'm going 1214 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 1: up package up pocket Biggie, you know, together excluding any 1215 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 1: of your art um one album you could listen to 1216 01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:22,440 Speaker 1: with no skips. I mean, it's crazy, ship is man, 1217 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really laid back cat. It's probably an R 1218 01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 1: and B album out there something, it's not. That's what 1219 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 1: I would be going to me that Jackie Jack state. 1220 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:32,600 Speaker 1: I don't mean to cut you off. Jack stayed in 1221 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 1: my house a couple of months ago. I'm waking up 1222 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,680 Speaker 1: at eight in the morning just gangster something damn Jack 1223 01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,080 Speaker 1: that they didn't even know it yet. Jack is a 1224 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 1: gangster though real life does not like gangster and s 1225 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 1: up at all. It was eight and there ain't no 1226 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 1: warm up and nut Violet Jill and stacking violence from 1227 01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,960 Speaker 1: from data from the Jack. We don't even have a 1228 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 1: breakfast yet. Bro. Yeah, I'm definitely not doing I'm not 1229 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:02,200 Speaker 1: definitely not playing no ship like that. I am just 1230 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,160 Speaker 1: a calming individual. I have now like the past two 1231 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,320 Speaker 1: weeks because I have such a huge problem sleeping as 1232 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 1: I've been going to uh which which funcks up my playlist. 1233 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 1: It's just crazy, but I've been going to sleep to 1234 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 1: these sleep sounds on the Apple and you know, so 1235 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:22,880 Speaker 1: I guess they'd be on all night when I'm sleeping. 1236 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 1: So now like i get in my car bluetooth and 1237 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fund is the wind? I get 1238 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 1: to looking around, realized my bluetooth is picked up last night. 1239 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 1: But that's what I've been actually like listening to, like 1240 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,240 Speaker 1: water and they've been listening to the ship just trying 1241 01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:49,920 Speaker 1: to like you heard the new rain drop rain patterns. 1242 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:55,360 Speaker 1: I've been listening to rain patterns that calm. Yeah, courtside 1243 01:05:55,400 --> 01:06:00,200 Speaker 1: ticket to any game in history? Which one would it be? Well? 1244 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,800 Speaker 1: One of my favorite courtside games that I went to 1245 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 1: was the Cleveland versus Golden State game where Kyrie and 1246 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:12,560 Speaker 1: lebron Broke had forty three or forty something point. What 1247 01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,200 Speaker 1: M that's a man you want to be at? Right there? Man? 1248 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:22,880 Speaker 1: My heart changing BPMS. Now, man about that game? Now, 1249 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,520 Speaker 1: I know something I you know, wanted to be at 1250 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:29,840 Speaker 1: like Kobe's last game. You know, I wanted to be 1251 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 1: at that game. Um, you know, you know stuff like that. 1252 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,439 Speaker 1: And then you know, like coming up, I'm old enough 1253 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,800 Speaker 1: to like know when Jordan played, but like my family 1254 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 1: and my dad didn't have you know, like any resources 1255 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:50,040 Speaker 1: to take me to go see him in live live. 1256 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 1: But I remember going to being able to, you know, 1257 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,040 Speaker 1: start going to see myself and I remember seeing a 1258 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,040 Speaker 1: I play live and just how quick he looked in 1259 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:04,240 Speaker 1: real life. To me, was was like something I had 1260 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,280 Speaker 1: seen before. And just like I remember, you know, seeing 1261 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,440 Speaker 1: him live and just but but you know, for them 1262 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,560 Speaker 1: for the most part. Now I'm in a position to like, 1263 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:15,840 Speaker 1: let's see what you want, do what I want to do. 1264 01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 1: I would love to go see I would love to 1265 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,720 Speaker 1: go see cause we never asked that question m J 1266 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,120 Speaker 1: when he got sixty three in Boston the playoffs. I 1267 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 1: was a young year. That's like a second year, right, 1268 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 1: all right, So if it had to be an m 1269 01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:31,400 Speaker 1: J moment, I just always thought about, like I watched 1270 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 1: that game. What about they lost that game? Bird was 1271 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:42,640 Speaker 1: on five? Yeah, they lost. They still lost five Dinner 1272 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,920 Speaker 1: guests dead or alive. I would want somebody like Dave 1273 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:49,160 Speaker 1: Chappelle there, so it could be some kind of learning, 1274 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:59,440 Speaker 1: like fun experience, perfect person, uh, somebody that seems like 1275 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 1: they got it figured it out. I mean, my Denner 1276 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:06,400 Speaker 1: would definitely be everybody that I feel like I have 1277 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,280 Speaker 1: some type of knowledge that I don't have I just 1278 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:11,360 Speaker 1: I can't think of them right now, but it'll be 1279 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,440 Speaker 1: maybe Mark Cuban, friend of mine, somebody like that. Like 1280 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,599 Speaker 1: I'm probably putting something like that together as a couple 1281 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:22,280 Speaker 1: of bestments in a couple. Do you see people around 1282 01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:27,320 Speaker 1: and some opportunities invest into somebody's some I'm putting them 1283 01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:31,200 Speaker 1: in the room together. Maybe uh, I mean the name 1284 01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:36,960 Speaker 1: some people in the VC space maybe uh, the black 1285 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,720 Speaker 1: being there, guy being um, I can't think his name. 1286 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,960 Speaker 1: He's into Adventure VC two. But it would just be 1287 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,760 Speaker 1: some money people. It will be some money people that 1288 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:53,519 Speaker 1: have opportunities. And I would want to be Bob, Robert Smith, 1289 01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,080 Speaker 1: Robert Smith. Yeah, I would want Robert Smith there. So 1290 01:08:56,160 --> 01:09:02,320 Speaker 1: we've got Robert Smith, Mark Cuban. I got to get 1291 01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,640 Speaker 1: a female. I mean, somebody deceased. We gotta get you 1292 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:06,960 Speaker 1: love to be at the table, to get to know 1293 01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,760 Speaker 1: somebody decease that we love that you would love to 1294 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:16,519 Speaker 1: have you sit because he he followed that whole hustle 1295 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,320 Speaker 1: grind the way we're thinking at this table. And then 1296 01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,400 Speaker 1: we need a female so it won't just see like 1297 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:26,680 Speaker 1: it's male dominant. We need a female who just no 1298 01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,840 Speaker 1: souper on her ship, you know, and I think it 1299 01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,720 Speaker 1: would be a cool down him. If you could pick 1300 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:35,800 Speaker 1: one guest to be on all the smoke, who would 1301 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,800 Speaker 1: it be? But but the twist of that question is 1302 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,040 Speaker 1: you gotta help us get your answer on our show, 1303 01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:51,160 Speaker 1: um my bat, I mean honestly, you know, Kanye would 1304 01:09:51,160 --> 01:10:01,440 Speaker 1: definitely put up by himself Broby outside, Roby outside right outside, 1305 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:07,200 Speaker 1: even trying. It's funny now, man, Oh, y'all, I'm straight 1306 01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:15,599 Speaker 1: for Broby outside. I ain't Broby outside whatever, Brobo outside whatever. 1307 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 1: I gotta give you that he is outside. I think 1308 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:24,880 Speaker 1: of this president felt yeah, man, pressure on applying pressure man. 1309 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,519 Speaker 1: I like, I like, I like the single Carya, I 1310 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,960 Speaker 1: like I like this car. Yeah, this, y'all fun with 1311 01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 1: this is the heartless car. That's we had a great relationship. 1312 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,160 Speaker 1: Were brothers at the heartless. You know. I kind of 1313 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,160 Speaker 1: ain't talked to him in a while. But we're back 1314 01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:46,280 Speaker 1: cool now, like we're back boards. This is the hardest. Yeah. Yeah, 1315 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:50,439 Speaker 1: that's y'all with Yeah, it's still just crazy. Man. We 1316 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,559 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Tell the people one more time? What up? 1317 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,200 Speaker 1: What up? Is your player partner checking in too? Chains 1318 01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,360 Speaker 1: Big Tony himself and I have a new project, my 1319 01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:03,520 Speaker 1: seventh album. It's called Dope Don't Sell Itself. Great production, 1320 01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:08,400 Speaker 1: great features, a really great time. I appreciate all y'all. 1321 01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:13,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate the support. Tony Nolan, true yeah, shout out there. 1322 01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,840 Speaker 1: UH got something for you. But we can't leave, you know, 1323 01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,120 Speaker 1: without giving you a little something. Bro. We got some 1324 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,360 Speaker 1: new merch coming, so we're gonna say new merch coming, 1325 01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,439 Speaker 1: but this is a thank you. In the meantime time, 1326 01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:27,880 Speaker 1: we know you don't know how to swag it out. 1327 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,439 Speaker 1: You know you don't heat the only person I know 1328 01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:32,400 Speaker 1: you might have on all the smoke hoodie with Balencia, y'all, 1329 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,639 Speaker 1: good y'all, all the way down. You know you're gonna 1330 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,280 Speaker 1: make it do with it. He's gonna he's gonna make 1331 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 1: it look Yeah. Yeah, I appreciate yo. You know, go 1332 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,040 Speaker 1: gave me a companient. The last time I was in 1333 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:44,880 Speaker 1: the studio with y'all, said, go, man, Jack, you come 1334 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 1: in looking like a young nigger. No, yeah, yeah, I 1335 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,720 Speaker 1: appreciate that. This good old, good old fabric right here, 1336 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,680 Speaker 1: that's soft. Yeah, you know some soft material here in 1337 01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,760 Speaker 1: l A in the studio all night that you go 1338 01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,040 Speaker 1: right down. Yeah, we got some yeah, we got some 1339 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 1: time for you. We appreciate you, man, Thank you for 1340 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 1: your time for men's health. Tomorrow, they want to see 1341 01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,120 Speaker 1: me in the gym. I might put the hood on something. 1342 01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,880 Speaker 1: We want to do a few pull ups or something. 1343 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,200 Speaker 1: Y'all can get that at all the Smoke dot store man, 1344 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,679 Speaker 1: check us out man, a whole bunch of new merch 1345 01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,720 Speaker 1: man when that's a rap. We appreciate your time, man, 1346 01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,599 Speaker 1: best of luck and everything you continue to do. Continue 1347 01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,519 Speaker 1: to stay blessed. Man. Appreciate my brother. You know what 1348 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:28,200 Speaker 1: it is you appreciate. Find us on Showtime Basketball, YouTube 1349 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:32,280 Speaker 1: and the I Heart platform Black Effects see y'all next week. 1350 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,200 Speaker 1: This is All a Smoke, a production of The Black 1351 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,320 Speaker 1: Effect and Our Heart Radio in partnership with Showtime