1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sideline. 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: This he is Hanging with the Boys, presented by wing 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Stuff where flavor gets its wings. Now, your hosts, Jesse Holly, 6 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: Kurt Daniels, and Nate Newton, what's. 7 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: Going on across the sea? 8 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 4: It ain't what's going on Mantis Championship Plaza outside in 9 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 4: front of the four Center. Even though I am not there, 10 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 4: I could still see it. Or yeah, Matt, it is 11 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 4: a beautiful fifty five degree this morning, high of seventy nine. 12 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 4: I don't know what it is where you guys are at, 13 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 4: but I'm sure it is lovely. That is Kurt Daniels, 14 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 4: the Emmy Award winning That is Nate Newton, the three 15 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 4: time Super Bowl winning champion. Our boy Chris Beam in 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 4: the back keeping it up and running. I am Zaddy Holly. 17 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 4: Together we make Hanging with the Boys the sports talk 18 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 4: equivalent of brow people. 19 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: Us. 20 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 4: Here we go when j good morning, gentlemen. 21 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 3: We're feeling again? What type of shirt is that? What 22 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 3: we feeling this morning? Tell us what's that shirt is? 23 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 4: Listen? I don't you know. I love you know, I 24 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 4: love a good shirt with some good color in it. Man, 25 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 4: I don't even know what kind of fun somebody, what 26 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 4: kind of hydrange just flower this is? 27 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 5: Is that a Jersey thing? 28 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 4: No, it's it's it's an election day, like the color election. 29 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 4: It's it's an election day. Yeah, I am in New 30 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 4: Jersey because today is election day. My big brother, Jamel 31 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 4: Holly is running for mayor for the third time. He's 32 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 4: already a two times mayor, so he's come back for 33 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 4: the third time. And things are looking good for us fellas, 34 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 4: the Holly family looking really really good. But I'm excited 35 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 4: to be with you all this morning as we dig 36 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 4: and dive into Many camping started, Mini Camp started, and Nate, 37 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 4: you have make you have a feeling about Mini Camp 38 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 4: and OTAs and all of this offseason stuff. So I'm 39 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 4: gonna let you have the floor, Nate, and you tell 40 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 4: us how you feel about. 41 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 6: It about Many Camp, about ot Ash. I have jes 42 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 6: you just set me out because I don't. I don't 43 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 6: have no feelings about it. 44 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 4: Man. 45 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: Uh. 46 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 6: It is not a physical That's what I wanted to hear. 47 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 6: It is not a physical thing. It's all mental and are. 48 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 7: They do you think they're still able to get the 49 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 7: work in and the development they need. 50 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: As far as the mental aspect. 51 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 6: This this is what's uh disappointing, is they're putting in. 52 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 6: They can put stuff in much faster than when men 53 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 6: and Jessey did it because we had to go out 54 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 6: there and physically run fast, hit do so we not 55 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 6: only dealing with the mental. 56 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: We was dealing with the physical. 57 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 6: Well, now you just straight they can just get day 58 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 6: in and day I'll put ten new things in because 59 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 6: it ain't like you going on the field and get 60 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 6: a lot of work physically to exhaust you. So you 61 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 6: can't gather this stuff mentally. Uh what you don't want 62 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 6: to see and you put it in your notes. We 63 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 6: don't want to see Jalen Tobert not No, we don't 64 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 6: need another high round draft pick, not know how to 65 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 6: line up next year? What was mini camp OTAs and 66 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 6: all this personal stuff that we've done, it didn't amount 67 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 6: to nothing. So that's my big issue is. 68 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 7: It does it hurt them that even though yes, it's 69 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 7: all mental, they can't quite learn it until they got 70 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 7: the pads on and are really. 71 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 6: No, it's more like college in college, and Jesse attest 72 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 6: to this. 73 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: In college, we are you didn't go on no pads. 74 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 6: Early when you know, when you got out of when 75 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 6: you got out of spring training, which spring training, we 76 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 6: was in paths. Back when we played, we were in 77 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 6: paths every day. But even now these kids are not 78 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 6: in paths, but they're running. 79 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: If you can run fast to. 80 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 6: A certain extent, because it's all about can you get 81 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 6: yourself up to the level of the game. How far 82 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 6: away is you from the level of the game. So 83 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 6: a lot of college coaches still have their kids out 84 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 6: there running fast, moving fast, hustling, you know, trying to 85 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 6: get some exhaustion in that way. But it's all about 86 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 6: the mental thing. And and if these guys go out here, 87 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 6: line up, get some speed in along with this mental 88 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 6: they should be all right because the. 89 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: League is the same across the board. 90 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 6: The coaches don't call the shots, and the gms don't 91 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 6: call the shots anymore. 92 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: The league called the shots. 93 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 4: The one thing I would push back on, Nate when 94 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 4: it comes to on the field stuff, like you alluded to, 95 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: in college, you do have that period of spring ball 96 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 4: where it's live action, where it's legit pads on you know, 97 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: maybe not tackling to the ground unless you're in the 98 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 4: spring game. But there is some thudding and some hitting. 99 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 4: And the biggest part about the learning curve is what 100 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: happens when the live bullets are flying and you know, 101 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: speaking of Jala Toober and we're not beating a dead horse. 102 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 4: But I can't help but to go back to that 103 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 4: play when he was in the season where Jala Toler 104 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 4: got inserted in the game and he lines up and 105 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: he's looking in at the football, but he's lined up 106 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 4: off sides and he's just standing there a foot in 107 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 4: front of the football and looking into the football at 108 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 4: the football, And that to me is different when when 109 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 4: you do everything it's all a walkthrough, which a lot 110 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 4: of these practices are, or it's a you know, a 111 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 4: jog through. There's something about when the when the live 112 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 4: bullets start flowing, where does your mind go? Because everybody 113 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 4: doesn't have the temperament or the mindset of when things 114 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 4: get chaotic that I get calm. You know, if you 115 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 4: if you're ever around like Navy seals, you get to 116 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 4: try to speak to Navy seals or people like that. 117 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 4: They'll tell you that in the in the most chaotic 118 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 4: moment is when they become their comments, is when they 119 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: know that they they can't get erratic like the situation. 120 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 4: They can't let the situation elevate them to a point 121 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: where they're not able to think correctly. And I think 122 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 4: that's the part that's missing when you when you take 123 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 4: the pads away, and I get it, this is self inflicted. 124 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 4: The players wanted this. This wasn't an ownership thing, This 125 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 4: wasn't a league thing. This was a players want to 126 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 4: take the pads off, to have less hitting, to have 127 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: all those things. But what return. What happens is, especially 128 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 4: for those young guys coming in now, when you have 129 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 4: to add into that point of all right, the live 130 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 4: bullets are flying and Tony's point, when that fatigue kicks in. 131 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 4: I don't know what coach or what person said that 132 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 4: it says, but fatigue will make cowards of us. All. 133 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 4: It's what happens when you get a little bit tired, Lombard, 134 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 4: You get a little bit tired, you get a little 135 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 4: bit exhausted, you get a little bit of kind of 136 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 4: just the situation gets a little bit elevated. Now, what 137 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: does your mental do, Because if you haven't trained for that, 138 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 4: if you haven't prepared yourself for that, especially a young guy. 139 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 4: You get in these situations and all of a sudden, 140 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 4: your brain goes haywire and you don't have the ability 141 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: to properly lock in and focus and have the game 142 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 4: slowed down for you. Instead it speeds up, and now 143 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 4: you're erratic. It's erratic, and now things are all over 144 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 4: the place. And as you know, especially offensively and defensively 145 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 4: as well, is when you have a certain guy that's 146 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 4: not on the same page with a quarterback or you know, 147 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 4: alignment aren't all going in the same direction. Now guys 148 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 4: are missing blocks, guys are missing assignments, and that can 149 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 4: be that can be devastating blow to your football team. 150 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, they now the difference here between OTA's and mini camps. 151 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 7: Many camps are mandatory, so you expect everybody to be there. 152 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 7: They can do seven on seven drills, eleven on eleven drills. 153 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 7: I think the like receivers and corners can do one 154 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 7: on ones, but there's no life contact, no hitting, no 155 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 7: pads other than helmets and that sort of thing. So 156 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 7: not being able to do this like you were saying, 157 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,239 Speaker 7: and get prepared with the physical aspect of it along 158 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 7: with the mental Does that hurt this hurt teams? I 159 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 7: guess every NFL team faces it. We've joked about the 160 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 7: first four games of the regular season and actually the 161 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 7: preseason guy, guys. 162 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 3: They ain't no joke. 163 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 7: Does it hurt more then or does it hurt more 164 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 7: later in the year because they run into that fatigue 165 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 7: like you were talking about. 166 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 6: Just when you have not when you have not made 167 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 6: sure when you scouted these young guys, either first year 168 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 6: players or rookies, our second year player, you scouted these 169 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 6: guys and not talk to the right people to find 170 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 6: out that their mentals, like Jesse, be the hya your 171 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 6: dentals and your mentals. When you find out these mentals 172 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 6: are loose and not strong, that's when you run into 173 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 6: this Jesse talking about a mental thing, you know, and 174 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 6: that and. 175 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: That's where these guys, that's what hurts your team. 176 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 6: When you got a third round pick, you got a 177 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 6: first round pick who you depended on for sixty five 178 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 6: percent of your snaps, say hey, this guy gotta develop, 179 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 6: he's got to be something to help our team. And 180 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 6: you can find out, wow, and that that's what it hurts. 181 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: Man. 182 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 6: But if you got to buy a bunch of smart 183 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 6: guys that can make that adjustment and transfer that from 184 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 6: the classroom to one hundred miles an hour in the game. 185 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 6: It's much easier to get it going. I just think 186 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 6: with this new offense ess and you can speak to 187 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 6: this as a wide receiver about the West Coast uh normal, 188 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 6: you know, because I was just in a number system 189 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 6: that you know, you where the numbers say go. But 190 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 6: this West Coast thing is a little bit different. And 191 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 6: the paragraphs can get pretty long. 192 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 8: You know. 193 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 6: You can quarterback and going in the you can have 194 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 6: a long paragraph. You got a lot of things to do. 195 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 6: I'm I correct, Yes, I'm gonna send it wrong. 196 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 4: No, you're absolutely right that those paragraph does get a 197 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: little bit long. The Verberts does get a little bit lengthy. 198 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 4: I think one other thing that they're going to try 199 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: to do is is take some of the concepts and 200 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 4: keep them in the same language that Dak was used to, right, 201 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 4: because it's always like, you know, always be quarterback friendly, 202 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 4: be Dak Freley. The biggest thing about this West Coast 203 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 4: offense is it's now getting your linemen to adjust to 204 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: the quickness of how where the ball is coming out, 205 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 4: the ball is being released and then now have your quarterback, 206 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 4: receivers and running backs and tight ends all being on 207 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 4: the same page timy wise. That's the biggest thing about 208 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 4: the West Coast offense. It's timing everything now in all 209 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 4: offenses are timed right in a sense, but this is 210 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 4: more This is even more sped up, and there's more 211 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 4: responsibility in the route running. What I mean by that 212 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 4: is you have one situation where a receiver will see 213 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: an adjustment from the line of scrimmage when the covers 214 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 4: changes pre snap. One thing about the West Coast offense 215 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 4: is they do a lot of it literally in route adjustments. 216 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 4: They do the you can snap. You can see one 217 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 4: thing pre snap, the ball is snap, the defense now 218 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 4: rotates to you know, middle of the field open, middle 219 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 4: of the field closed, and now mid route. You have 220 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 4: to be able to see that adjustment and then make 221 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 4: the right decision. Those are the things that when you 222 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 4: look at mini camps and training camps, in those preseason 223 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 4: games when you're implementing a new offense or new style 224 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 4: of offense, that you want to see those guys get 225 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 4: connected with because what you don't want to have what 226 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 4: we saw a couple of times last year in the 227 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 4: old offense where receiver and quarterback work on the same page. Receiver, 228 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 4: quarterback and tight end work on the same page, and 229 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 4: it led to untimely turnovers and that you know, turnovers 230 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 4: in any game can kill you, but especially when you're 231 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 4: trying to get a new offense off the ground in 232 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 4: a year. Might I add where there's going to be 233 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 4: a ton of press sure on Dak Prescott, there's going 234 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 4: to be a ton of pressure on Mike McCarthy for 235 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 4: this thing, for them to get this ball rolling early 236 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 4: so that this team can look like a formidable opponent 237 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 4: and a formidable Super Bowl contender by the end of 238 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 4: the year. 239 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 7: So what can because there's no contact now, I would 240 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 7: think trying to work on those timings and the speed 241 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 7: of the game with the linement is a lot lot tougher. 242 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 7: What can they do now to kind of build on that, 243 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 7: start building that foundation speed. 244 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 6: One thing that the limited times I was around most 245 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 6: West Coast offenses is regardless of whether it was MENI 246 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 6: Camp or whatever. 247 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 3: And Jesse made was different for you. 248 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 6: But these guys believe in running fast, running, running the 249 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 6: routes wide open, quarterback throwing the ball. They that Thelignement 250 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 6: could be doing what they want to do. But the 251 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 6: receivers in the run of everybody, these coaches demanded, now, 252 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 6: any want you diving at the ball. They WEREN'TNNA let 253 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 6: no cornerback jam hit you deep down the field, but 254 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 6: they wanted you running that thing wide open. And I 255 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 6: don't know if they were if coach mccarthur wire asked 256 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 6: for that, or to receive a coach. 257 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: But if the quicker you, the closer you can. 258 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 6: Become to game speed, the easier it is when the 259 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 6: game they start. And that's what Jesse's saying that if 260 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 6: you used to just jog trying out, that's to the 261 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 6: end of the line. Hey go to defense, lilly gagging around? 262 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 6: What are you learning? 263 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: They are? 264 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was supposed to be back there in the 265 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 6: deep third, but I didn't get back there. Well, you 266 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 6: gave your your wide receiver a bad read. So now 267 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 6: when the season started, and we laugh about Nate Noon 268 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 6: saying the first four games a straight pre season, all 269 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 6: of a sudden, that's what we see. You know, we 270 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 6: were fortunate, very fortunate. 271 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: Last year. We were very fortunate. And yeah, and so I. 272 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 6: Don't I don't think fortunate rides like that year and 273 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 6: the year out. 274 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 7: You know, can they make can they make ross your 275 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 7: decisions now in mini camp? 276 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, people try to disagree with me. Well, this last 277 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 6: preseason game, we got four spots, O man to tell 278 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 6: that to an idiot. They know who they want on 279 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 6: the scene. They know who they want on this team, 280 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 6: and they will know when training camp. They may say, Okay, 281 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 6: this training camp, we got to make a decision on 282 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 6: these four guys because with the lack of running wide open, 283 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 6: the lack of getting after it doing training camp, how 284 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 6: you gonna tell me you I ain't never hit a 285 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 6: licking a snake. I'm a fourth round pick. I ain't 286 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 6: never hit nobody. 287 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: You know, how you know that I can play in 288 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 3: the game? 289 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 6: The preseasons don't mean that much. How you know can 290 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 6: I play? Ain't nobody ran no different schemes. I just 291 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 6: don't went out there and ran against the basic four 292 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 6: to three. So how do you know I can really 293 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 6: play when I don't played against a bunch of garbage dudes? 294 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 6: I'm saying, So, you got to know who's gonna make 295 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 6: your team. You got to have a you know, yeah, 296 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 6: you may disagree. 297 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: Yes, no, no, yeah, no, no, no, no, I agree wholeheartedly. 298 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 4: And the reason being is like Will McClay is no idiot, right, 299 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 4: Like he's no dummy by far. And so they look 300 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 4: at these guys and they know, all right, this guy 301 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 4: he's on. I mean, sixty percent of your roster is 302 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 4: already or you know, sixty seven percent has already made. 303 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 4: If they had to choose today, they can tell you 304 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 4: sixty to seventy percent of their roster who it is. 305 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 4: And now it's a guy here and there. But what 306 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 4: you look for in ot as, what you look for 307 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 4: in OTAs right now, I know I about sixty seven 308 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 4: percent and that's and that's the guy that you you know, 309 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 4: come back from last year. Your draft picks are still 310 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 4: you know, of course in there. And then you're looking 311 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 4: for that. You're looking for those guys that are saying, Okay, 312 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 4: who can I put on this roster? That will that 313 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 4: will show up now after mini camp that number will 314 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 4: rise again. The biggest thing that you want to see 315 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 4: and the OTAs in the mini camps is football is 316 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 4: ninety percent mental, ten percent physical. And that's the biggest thing. 317 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 4: I want to know that this person is about. 318 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 6: Stop just stop say that. Repeat that again. It is 319 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 6: repeat what you just said, football is. 320 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 4: Football is ninety percent mental and ten percent physical. 321 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 3: Until you get hit and then its physical. Yeah, until 322 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: you get hit because. 323 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 4: Nate Nate Kurt. Listen, guys, we've all been hit. Like 324 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 4: we've all been hit. 325 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 6: You don't get the National Football League. 326 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 3: Tell jayaln tobera that you. 327 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 4: Don't get hit, you know, Jalen problem. Jaylen Tobert's problem 328 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: wasn't that he couldn't take a hit, Jalen. Wasn't it 329 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 4: that he couldn't do what was Jaya totals problem? Mental? 330 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 4: Jayla Tober couldn't figure out what the hell of line 331 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 4: up at? Jaya Tober couldn't fill out what the hell 332 00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 4: to do on the football field. 333 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 9: It wasn't his physical action lights. Physical action got to 334 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 9: action what got him lights? That's mental, all men. I 335 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 9: was all mental, That is all. 336 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: Men, incidentals. 337 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 7: I do agree that for guys at your level, yeah, 338 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 7: at that. 339 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 5: Point it becomes mental. 340 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 7: But for guys like me, physically, there's no way I 341 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 7: could ever. 342 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 5: Be on that field. So it's you know, but. 343 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: Guy, dude tried environment. But yeah, I got a Harvard degree. 344 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 6: I said, let me drop this ham on your head 345 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 6: and see what and see what how you're thinking after 346 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 6: about ten plays, and I. 347 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 3: Bet you I think clear to you. 348 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 6: He looked at me like what I said, Let me 349 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 6: jack this hammer against your faux head about three times 350 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 6: and let me see how you can break down this 351 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 6: trigger numb draft of that. 352 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 4: All right, fellas man, We're gonna take a break and 353 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 4: do a little math because Nate didn' drop the hammer 354 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 4: on after this, After this break, man, we'll continue to 355 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 4: talk about the Cowboys, OTA's mini camps. 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That was a June Tief 412 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 4: celebration right there, all right? 413 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 5: Nice. 414 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 4: As we continue to dive into the Cowboys off season, 415 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 4: of course, the conversation will always continue to be especially 416 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 4: when you're talking about names and stardom is the money. 417 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 4: You know, what guys will be signed, what guys won't 418 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 4: be signed, how things will work out. But there's one 419 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 4: player that Jerry's kind of continued to keep kind of 420 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 4: his name in his mouth a little bit. Pauls. We've 421 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 4: tried to move on from it, but we've quite can't. 422 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 4: And Jerry comes out and he's still talking about your boy, Nate. 423 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 4: The one the only mister feed me himself is Ezekiel Elliott. 424 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 4: Why do you think that when this conversation hasn't been 425 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 4: put to bed? I have my thoughts, but I'm gonna 426 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 4: let you guys kind of give me your thoughts about it. 427 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 4: Why do you think Jerry and Steven and company haven't 428 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 4: put this Zeke Elliott story completely to bed? But it's 429 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 4: always the door is still open. We haven't closed the 430 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 4: door on that. We're thinking, well, you know, we're looking 431 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 4: at all our options and that option isn't dead yet. 432 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 4: Why why do you put an end too, the Ezekiel 433 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: Elliott saga. 434 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 6: Because you know who he is and what he does 435 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 6: for your team. You know, he know his role, and 436 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 6: I think they think that he will accept his role. 437 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 6: He will not be a detriment to the team. That's 438 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 6: why I think they won't put it to bed. 439 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 3: I mean, so you. 440 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 7: Think, like I wonder, does he know what? Do he 441 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 7: know his role and accept its role? And even if 442 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 7: he would sign for three million. 443 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 3: He would come back? 444 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 5: Do you think so he's not. 445 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 7: Such a big presence that Nah Pollard looking over his shoulder. 446 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 3: I think. 447 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 6: I think in this way, Zeg is a lot more 448 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 6: mature than people want to give him credit for when 449 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 6: it comes to this right here, because they still don't 450 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 6: want to get to Pollard to ball. 451 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: More than twenty snaps a game. They still do not 452 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 3: want to do that. 453 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 6: When Tony's at his best, it's around fifteen to twenty 454 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 6: carries touches, whether it's throwing the ball to him, handing 455 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 6: it to him. You don't want to lose that he's got. 456 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 6: If you keep it where you have it at now, 457 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 6: Tony can play another three years and be very, very explosive. 458 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 6: You app him up just about five more snaps a game, 459 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 6: you won't have that guy by the end of the year. 460 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 3: So we know who Zeke hells. 461 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 6: We know what he can do, and he's mature enough, 462 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 6: I think, because even last year when Tony was getting 463 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 6: out of fame, did we lose Zeke. 464 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 3: I know the money was big for Zeke, but he 465 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: can float around out here. 466 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 6: And if you don't get anything, would you rather put 467 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 6: your money on Zeke or would you rather put it 468 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 6: on the new sixth round draft pick? 469 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 5: True, he has that veteran. 470 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, my. 471 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 4: Opinion is completely different than both of yous, completely different, 472 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 4: completely different. Mine is a two part opinion. I'm gonna 473 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 4: give it to you. Mine is a two part opinion. 474 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 4: Park One is I think that I think that Jerry 475 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 4: Jones continues to keep the Zeke Elliott thing in his 476 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 4: mouth in the conversation is one he know, he knows 477 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 4: when he says it, or he doesn't say it, or 478 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 4: he leaves that mysterious type of outcome to it. We 479 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 4: talk about it. I think it's still a topic of 480 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 4: conversation for the Cowboys and for the Cowboys media, and 481 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 4: so I think Jerry understands in the offseason he still 482 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 4: wants to continue to generate that buzz and that noise 483 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 4: and still being in the a block of every talk 484 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 4: show hours on the networks all over the place, and 485 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 4: still talking about in the in the article that they 486 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 4: print online and on social media. I think he still 487 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 4: knows that. I think he still knows as long as 488 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 4: he does it completely in the verbally closed the door, 489 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 4: that people will continue to drum up stories about start 490 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 4: doing all the numbers, and a capologist will come out 491 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 4: and they'll say, well, if they can do this and 492 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 4: change this. So I think that's the first part that 493 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: Jerry understands that as long as I keep that door 494 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 4: open mysteriously or somehow this faint possibility, that the people 495 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 4: will still talk about it and will still be in 496 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 4: the news. The second thing is one thing about Jerry 497 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 4: is that at times, at times he learns from his mistakes. 498 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 4: And when you look at what Zeke had become to 499 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 4: the Cowboys media, to the Cowboys fan base, Zeke went 500 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 4: from a darling and then he kind of had his 501 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 4: lows and they turned on them, and then they loved 502 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 4: them again. And that part Jerry remembers what happened with Dez. 503 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 4: He remembers how that tour the fan base apart. He 504 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 4: remembers how the fan base were kind of divided on 505 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 4: the whole Tony Dak situation. And so anytime you have 506 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 4: a beloved player like Ezekiel Elliot, you kind of want 507 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 4: to do it softly. You kind of wanted this to 508 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 4: happen organically, like, hey, we'll continue to move on to 509 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 4: the season, and you hope that there's no injuries to 510 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 4: your running backs because the first injury that you have 511 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 4: is Zeke's not on a football team. His name is 512 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 4: gonna come up, right, So it's like, if we just 513 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 4: organically move away from this thing. While I don't have 514 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 4: to say that I'm completely out on Ezekiel Elliott because 515 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 4: it's still it's still it's still wild to me that 516 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 4: if you were going to give Zeke a second chance, 517 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 4: then why not just work out something in the first place? 518 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 4: Like you you you you let him go without even 519 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 4: giving him an opportunity to to take a pay cut, 520 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 4: and you didn't even give him a chance to say, 521 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 4: you know what, that actually doesn't insult me, I actually 522 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 4: will take that deal. It was like, nah, we don't 523 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 4: want to insult him. So like that that like that's 524 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 4: the code word for we didn't want to insult him, 525 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: but really, we don't want for you anything like. We 526 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 4: don't want you like. We're not offering you nothing like nothing. 527 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 4: So the whole thing about Zeke coming back is why 528 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 4: why why would you want a person to come back 529 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 4: when you already had him and he didn't have to leave, 530 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 4: you let him go. You willingly released him without even 531 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 4: giving him a chance to be insulted by a lower number, 532 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 4: and now all of a sudden he's gonna come back 533 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 4: for that lower number. No. I think this is Jerry 534 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 4: understanding that as long as I don't completely close the door, 535 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 4: people will still speculate about it, and that keeps us 536 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 4: in the conversation, which he loves. And then the second 537 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 4: part about it is he understands that if I'm too 538 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 4: hard on this breakup, then I possibly offend some fans 539 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 4: because they begin to say, you know, Jerry, you should 540 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 4: have done it better than that. He gave a lot 541 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 4: for this football team, what about no, no da dah. 542 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 4: And he doesn't want to create that fraction between the 543 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 4: fan base and the football team like it was when 544 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 4: they let Dez go, and they like it was when 545 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 4: they let Tony go. He understands that that the fan 546 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 4: base they live and die with these players and how 547 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 4: you treat these players and so on and so forth. 548 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 4: So he want to make sure that this thing just 549 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 4: kind of fair needs away. We get into training camp 550 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 4: and things going well, so they hope that there's great 551 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 4: reports about Tony Pollitzer. People just kind of just we 552 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 4: get into the season and just it just goes away, 553 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 4: and you just move on to the next thing, and 554 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 4: they'll go, Man, you know, Zeke was a really good 555 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 4: player and you don't have him anymore. 556 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 7: But you talk about like the fraction. I mean, does 557 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 7: this affect the guys in the room at all time? 558 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 5: Do they care? Are they tired of hearing about this? 559 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 6: No, I'm gonna tell you something. Man, When you first 560 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 6: hear it as a player for my group, we're like, 561 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 6: oh man, big New, Oh man, we're gonna miss big New. 562 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,239 Speaker 3: No, man, hey Stone, you ready to play? You know 563 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 3: you got you know you you feel Zeke? 564 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 6: Like I say, But good, good theory anyway, Je's probably 565 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,479 Speaker 6: the right theory. 566 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 3: Uh. 567 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 6: But my bottom line is this right here. Uh, if 568 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 6: Zeke was to come back, I think he would be 569 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 6: mature enough. I don't think he'll fracture that that deal. 570 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 6: It'll put some guys on hold, you know, and maybe 571 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 6: you don't want to do that. But Zeke is not 572 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 6: bad for this team. He's you know, at least that's 573 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 6: what I feel, you know, he's. 574 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: Not bad for role. Yeah. 575 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 6: So but this is the thing that's going he already 576 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 6: faded away. I think it must just say, like missus 577 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 6: Jones just in the media he wanted to, you know, 578 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 6: but in the locker room, ain't nobody looking around trying 579 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 6: to hey, wait, Zeke man gone be gone. 580 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 3: Bro he gonet believe. 581 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 4: That Ricoddo ain't looking for Zeke. Ronald Jones ain't looking. 582 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 3: For the six round pick. 583 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 4: Duke Vaughn ain't looking for Zeke. Tony Pollard ain't looking 584 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 4: for They'll get in front of the media as they 585 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 4: as they should. They'll go, well, you know, was a 586 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 4: good friend, he's a good team. But that's the unwritten 587 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 4: d that's the unwritten law that is spoken, like when 588 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 4: you hate to lose a guy, but you but I 589 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 4: promise you. Like when they let Rigo Dado was happy 590 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 4: about that, like not in a negative sense, and like 591 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 4: you know, he was like, you know what more reps 592 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 4: for me, more opportunities for me. Yeah, So guys in 593 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 4: that room are not like, hey, bring back Zeke now, 594 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 4: if he comes back, they'll do the right things. Our 595 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 4: brother is back and we'll make we'll make it work. 596 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 4: But trust me, the guy that Zeke's reps are gonna 597 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 4: get snatched up from that, he's gonna snatch up reps 598 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 4: from They ain't happy to if he comes back. They 599 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 4: you know, they're not. They're not worried about mister Jones 600 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 4: saying it. But when they when Zeke departed, the guys, 601 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 4: guys goes all right, there there goes another fifteen to 602 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 4: twenty reps that I have the potential to get. Yeah, 603 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 4: now however that breaks down in my favor or you 604 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 4: know whatever. But there's now there's fifteen to twenty reps 605 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 4: that have now opened up that I have opportunity in 606 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 4: and OTA's in mini camp and training camp to win 607 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 4: those routes. If you know, Tony Pollard, whenever he's ready 608 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 4: to go full time, you know, I gotta make my way. 609 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta show these coaches that you know, 610 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 4: I'm ready for that, whatever that role is, whatever that 611 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 4: next role is for me, I gotta show them I'm 612 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 4: ready for it, and now I have fifteen to twenty 613 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 4: more opportunities to do so because he is not here. 614 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 3: Damn, it's perfect. 615 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 6: They are set up now, perfect because you got the 616 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 6: twenty reps that Tony would get. 617 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 3: And then, like Jef. 618 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 6: Said, the Rico'donalds, the little guy, the other little guy. 619 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: The little six round pick Jones. 620 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 6: You know, now you find out what they do well 621 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 6: and you and that's what you cater to. So now 622 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 6: now you still got thirty touches, Yeah, thirty touches, the 623 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 6: twenty that my man gonna get to ten or fifteen, 624 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 6: you know that the other guy's gonna get. But the 625 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 6: guy who's gonna win is that guy that can play 626 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 6: third down. If I'm giving rico'donald or any of these guys, 627 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 6: if you really want to. 628 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 3: Win, be able to handle third down blitzes. 629 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 6: The guy that can step forward and handle these blitzes 630 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 6: the best, that's the guy that's gonna get the mixtra reps. 631 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 6: And then other things are falling your lap. You know 632 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 6: what I'm saying. Other things are falling your lap? You agree? 633 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:16,239 Speaker 4: Yes? 634 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 3: Are you there with me? 635 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? I agree with you one hundred percent. The biggest 636 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 4: thing you want to do is find a way on 637 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 4: the field. 638 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 639 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 4: If I can find my way on the field good, 640 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 4: you know, like whether it's third downs, whether it's whatever 641 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 4: it is, short yardage, whatever, If I can find my 642 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 4: way into the rotation, into the good graces of the 643 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 4: coaches and their rotation, then what ended up happening is 644 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 4: as a year goes on, they find more and more 645 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 4: opportunities for us. And that's all I want. I just 646 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 4: want opportunities. I want trust from the coaches. 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I was like, hey, 727 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 4: I want to come out for the desk and I 728 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 4: was just true, like looking at tickets. Boy, Arry gets it, man, 729 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 4: mister Jones. I was looking at like fifty, like fifty 730 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 4: yard line lower Bowl tickets for a Jets game in 731 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 4: the one hundred section, over two thousand dollars per ticket. 732 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, they're not losing money over there. 733 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 3: We need to win that game. No, no, no, we 734 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:18,479 Speaker 3: need to win that game. 735 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 4: He's getting that money. Speaking about quarterbacks, of course, that 736 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,919 Speaker 4: game is going to be featured with Aaron Rodgers first 737 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 4: Dak Prescott. But Chris Simms came out and he ranked 738 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 4: that thirteenth among quarterbacks, behind guys like Kurt Cunneys and 739 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones and Matthew Stafford and has him third in 740 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 4: the division. I think we all are on the other 741 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 4: side of agreed disagree in this conversation. But thirteenth best 742 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 4: thirteen better quarterbacks. I think, you know, I think Chris Simms. 743 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 4: I think Chris Sims is part of that PFF personnel 744 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 4: type situation, and he's looking for that. You know, so 745 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 4: many guys now are looking for the next hot shot 746 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 4: thing to say. Right, and again you're saying about the 747 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys and about this quarterback in dark Prescott, did 748 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 4: you put him thirteenth in the National Football League? I 749 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 4: just I think that's that's a lot of clickbait from 750 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 4: a guy like Chris Sims, or you would hope would 751 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 4: have a little bit better understanding of the quarterback position. 752 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's got I mean, like Jesse mentioned, Kirk Cousins 753 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 7: is twelfth, Daniel Jones the Giants is eleven, Staffords tenth. 754 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 7: I mean you got to think he's a I mean, 755 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 7: would you put him above those three? Make him a 756 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 7: top ten CAMPI yeah. 757 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:43,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. You know, it's can you protect the ball? 758 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,959 Speaker 6: And that's what it's gonna come down to this year, 759 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 6: especially with the new offense. Is Dak willing to protect 760 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 6: the ball because now it's Ceedee Lamb willing to step 761 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 6: up and do the extra studying. I know, Cookills he's 762 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 6: shown to be that type of veteran. Is Michael Gallup 763 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 6: willing to be that guy? And it's Jalen Tobert. Is 764 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 6: he walking around with the playbooks stamp to his head? 765 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 4: Now? 766 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 6: I'm being honest, because if they're not with them four 767 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 6: preseason games, you don't want to be one in three. 768 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 6: I keep telling New York and New York they love 769 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,439 Speaker 6: him so great, till they name them twice New York, 770 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 6: New York, they love the city so great. Come on, man, 771 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 6: we need those two games. We need one of those 772 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 6: two games. We cannot come out of there without that. 773 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 7: Is the fact that Prescott has got a you know, 774 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 7: he's staring at an extension here that he's got to 775 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 7: get worked out. 776 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 5: Is that factor into this at all? Is play once ahead? 777 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 3: Man? 778 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 6: I think they're gonna give an extension anyway. What you think, Jess. 779 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 6: I think they're giving that to him anyway, I really do. 780 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 4: So. 781 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 3: I'm just praying that the receivers, half quarter back. 782 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 7: The way that's set up, if they want to sign 783 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 7: in these other guys that are looking for extensions or 784 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 7: new deals, they've they've got an extend Dak. 785 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 4: It looks like, yeah, I do think the extension will 786 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 4: happen for Dak. But what that number will look like, 787 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 4: what those guarantees will look like will definitely determine course 788 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 4: of play. If that comes out earlier in this year 789 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 4: and is on that same turnover carousel that he was 790 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 4: at least like he ended the year last year. That 791 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 4: that hurts the bottom line, That hurts the product and everything. 792 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,439 Speaker 4: Anytime you're not doing anything good, that means you're doing 793 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 4: something bad and that overall hurts the product. So for Dak, 794 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 4: while an extension is looking him in the face, for 795 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 4: him and his representatives, I'm sure they want to get 796 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 4: this thing done before the season starts, because if the season, 797 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 4: if the season starts, and again, some may say Dak 798 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 4: isn't injury prone, some may say Dak is hinting injury prone. 799 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 4: Some may say he's injury prone. You do not know 800 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 4: how these things are going to shake out weekend and 801 00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 4: week out. Thumb, shoulders, knees, ankles, head showed his knees 802 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 4: and toes. You just never know how stuff is going 803 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 4: to work out, you know, weekend and week out. In 804 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 4: the National Football League, you're upright one second and then 805 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 4: you're getting carted off the next second. That's the reality 806 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 4: of the football game that we that we love to 807 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 4: play and to watch. So for Dak the extension is 808 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 4: looking at him in the face right that that that 809 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 4: makes the sense, that makes the most sense, and it 810 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 4: makes the smart money sense that they're going to sign 811 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 4: these other guys. But if you don't get it done 812 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 4: before the season, and you you continue another season and 813 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 4: you lead the league in turnovers, or you have an 814 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 4: injury that will affect the bottom dollar number like that, 815 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 4: that's that's factual because people aren't going to pay top 816 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 4: dollar for a guy who's injured. People aren't going to 817 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 4: pay a top dollar for a guy who for two 818 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 4: years who you know, if he has turnovers and problems 819 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 4: again next year, two years in a row, is at 820 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 4: the top of the league in turnovers. That becomes now 821 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 4: sort of a trend and people looking at that saying, well, oh, 822 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 4: this is this is this is what's happening. Then I 823 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 4: don't know if we can give them all this money 824 00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 4: right now. 825 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. So I think it was Steven yesterday. It might 826 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 5: have been Jerry. They both spoke. 827 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 7: You know, they've got some other guys they need trying 828 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 7: to sign new deals with extensions, digs steal. I think 829 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 7: the Odish is in there. Lamb Parsons down the road 830 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 7: can they said that they'd like to get two or 831 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 7: three done this summer, but they also said none of 832 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 7: that is affected by what has to happen with Dak. 833 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 5: Is that true? 834 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 7: Can they make all these other deals if they don't 835 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,240 Speaker 7: know where their quarterback stands on his contract? 836 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 6: Me, I don't know what their priority this is, so 837 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 6: you know what their money situation is. I'm not a capologist, 838 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 6: So you, Jesse, you have any thoughts on that, because 839 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 6: I've been known Miss Jones, he's too much of a 840 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 6: wizard and have wizards working for him that when he 841 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 6: wants to get something done, I've seen him work magic. 842 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna stay out. 843 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 4: Of that my pay grade. Yeah. Absolutely. And that's the 844 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 4: thing that we've come to now in the National Football 845 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 4: League is you can make all these numbers jump. You 846 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 4: can have all you can you can you can simone 847 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 4: Biles and gymnastics jump all these numbers and contracts and 848 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 4: what you signed to today. If you need to make that, 849 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 4: restructure that contract or change this around and create voided 850 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 4: years and all that stuff now is so readily available 851 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 4: to you know, two front offices. It's all about if 852 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 4: they want to do it. We look across the league 853 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 4: all the time, you constantly say, how does this team 854 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 4: still have money to do stuff? How does that team 855 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 4: still have money to do stuff? Like I thought they 856 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 4: were in cap hell? And now eventually it'll catch up 857 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 4: to you down the road. But you can keep kicking 858 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 4: his can and kicking this can and kicking his can, 859 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 4: you know, down the road, and eventually we all get 860 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 4: to a point where you know, we're gonna need a 861 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 4: new new quarterback, and so you it's gonna reset because 862 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 4: you're not gonna be paying the forty fifty sixty million 863 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 4: dollars a year for a quarterback because now that quarterback's 864 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 4: on this rookie deal and it kind of it'll reset 865 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 4: itself later on down the line. It may not be 866 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 4: profitable for the team because you'll be in a rebuilding mode. 867 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 4: But again, you can always make this thing do whatever 868 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 4: you wanted to do in terms of the numbers and 869 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 4: creating cap space and cap room uh to to to 870 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 4: to sign the players that you most importantly want to 871 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 4: sign to their deals. 872 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 7: But out of that, you know, take Dak out of 873 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 7: the equation, not of that other group. But it sounds 874 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 7: like they've reached out to to Diggs people Lambs. If 875 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 7: I'm Steel, I think I'm running to the ownership right now. 876 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 7: About who out of that group do you think would 877 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 7: be the priority? Just whoever steps up or City Lamb? 878 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 6: What do you think Nate cite Lamb then then then 879 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 6: Diggs then Steal. If I'm Steel, would be easier, Yeah, 880 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 6: easier fix if. 881 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 7: I'm still I'm looking at it like Jalen Smith a 882 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 7: few years ago when Zeke was up and these other guys, 883 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 7: I'm like, give me my money now, because who knows 884 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 7: what's going to happen. 885 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 6: Now they're gonna have to pay steal. They don't have 886 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 6: to pay steal. I mean is it'll be easy to 887 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 6: fix with steal. That's why I ain't got in prod. 888 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 6: It'll be easier fix. But Digs can get kind of tricky, 889 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 6: and Lamb can get kind of tricky, depending on you know, 890 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 6: who you're talking to and what you what you're working with. 891 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 4: You know, yes, Steells deal. Steele's deal will be the 892 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 4: easiest of the three deals to make, right because he's 893 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 4: the lowest and kind of like you know, like does 894 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 4: he has a little bit of wiggle room or a 895 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 4: little bit of leverage, but not much leverage you know, 896 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 4: so it's like his deal for a right tackle is 897 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 4: kind of almost set in stone when you when you 898 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 4: want to when you start dealing with the skill guys 899 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 4: like a digs, like a like a CD Lamb, and 900 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 4: now you start talking about, I want to be paid 901 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 4: as one of the best dvs. I want to be 902 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 4: paid as one of the best receivers in the league. 903 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 4: And so those numbers, now, if it's a dollar more 904 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 4: than what the other guy got, or if it's dollar 905 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 4: more than what the other highest paid dB got, that 906 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 4: those are the contract that really can kind of begin 907 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 4: to to to to stick you a little bit, because 908 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 4: now you're talking about a receiver that's going to be 909 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 4: making somewhere and uppers between sixteen to twenty million dollars 910 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 4: a season, right like that that's gonna be the number 911 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 4: for CD Lamb, And that's a lot of money to 912 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 4: commit to. Like when you think about it, like you'll 913 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 4: you'll you'll have committed to four players, and most NFL teams, 914 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 4: if you look at the way that they're constructed, out 915 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 4: of the fifty sixty guys that they have in their roster, 916 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 4: majority of the salary cap goes to about five to 917 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 4: seven players, yes, quarterback, tackle, in corner, receiver, maybe another 918 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 4: pass catcher. Right, So like most of those guys, most 919 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 4: of your most of your salary cap is eaten up 920 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 4: by between five to seven players on every NFL roster. 921 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 4: You can look at it, five to seven players make 922 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 4: up a large majority of the money in the salary cap. 923 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 4: So if I'm still I agree, I'm running to the 924 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 4: table saying, hey, sign me first, Let's get me out 925 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 4: the way. Let's get me out the way. I'll put 926 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 4: it whatever things you need to put in. But it's 927 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 4: going to be for the diva positions, you know, for 928 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 4: the for the skill position. Those are going to be 929 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 4: the guys who want to to make that splash and say, 930 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,320 Speaker 4: and their agency as well, hey my receiver is the 931 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 4: highest paid receiver. Even if if it's about fifty cents, 932 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 4: I can say that I'm the highest paid receiver in 933 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 4: the National Football League. And their owners, their their their 934 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 4: representation can say the same. Yep, true, Wow, is that it? 935 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 4: That's all we got? 936 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 3: We got? 937 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 5: Chris last Man. Correct, this is your last show. It's 938 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:33,879 Speaker 5: our break to. 939 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 3: Chris, Chris, Yes, is this our last show? 940 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 5: Yes, you can take you can go drive across the 941 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 5: cur Thank god, it's show, Nate. 942 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 4: But whatever you do, make sure make sure your license 943 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 4: is suspended. Don't don't do that. 944 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,760 Speaker 5: Don't make your license is suddenly. 945 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 4: But no, hey, fellas and this, yeah, I know you're. 946 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 3: Can we get you who your shirt? People? 947 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,239 Speaker 6: Jess, you didn't You're supposed to have brought that back 948 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,280 Speaker 6: when we tease, who is your shirt? 949 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 3: People? 950 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 4: I bought this shirt. I bought this shirt. 951 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 3: Is that all for ten dollars? 952 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 4: I am a bargain shopper. I'm a bargain shopper. I 953 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 4: don't like paying a lot of money for stuff, So 954 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 4: a lot of my stuff. When you guys know, when 955 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 4: you get to a certain age, is it comfortable? Doesn't fit? 956 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 4: That's why I'm met in my life. Okay, like that's it. 957 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 4: Is it comfortable? It doesn't fit? I like mine have 958 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 4: a little bit more color than yours. Nate. 959 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 6: That's all all right, all right, brother Holly, all right, 960 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,240 Speaker 6: After mini. 961 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 4: Camps, he will win, he will win, will win. But 962 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,959 Speaker 4: after after mini camp, yes, you know it, After mini camp, 963 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 4: the Cowboys will have seven weeks off. So let's keep 964 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 4: our fingers crossed that nobody gets in trouble. Nobody gets 965 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 4: themselves into anything that will embarrass themselves, their families, the 966 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 4: organization and cost them a job. Talking to you, boss man, 967 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 4: fat stay of trouble, my brother all right, man for Kurt, 968 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,720 Speaker 4: for Nate, for for Chris in the back for Audio Jazz, 969 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 4: for Bro William Bro, William Brother, William Ham, all of 970 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 4: those guys. I am Zaddy Holly. 971 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 3: Yes, this last show. 972 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 4: Yes, this is our last show for seven weeks until 973 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 4: we get the training camp. And then once we get 974 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,359 Speaker 4: the training camp, we'll wrap this thing back up. Man, 975 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 4: can I rob with you? 976 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 5: Sorry? No, the porch. 977 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 4: Here man, and most importantly, thank you guys for ticking 978 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 4: it when it's staying with us. Man in the family. 979 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 4: We appreciate you all. We'll see you guys in seven 980 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,320 Speaker 4: weeks at the start of training camp. The trailer parks. 981 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 4: Here I come. This is hanging with the boys out. 982 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,360 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 983 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.