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Speaker 1: taking over. Here's Paul kelvc. Get the popcorn ready, It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a show, and Ron will fleep. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: We already have bad news from Thursday Night Football Round.

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Speaker 1: Wolfley zach Ertz scored early touchdown catch by zach Ertz,

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Speaker 1: and the price just went up. You got a fantasy team, Paul, No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: there's no fantasy. I'm talking about Steve Kahn. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about Steve Kahn making a trade for zach Ertz. And

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Speaker 1: hear that story that Steve Khin was all over zach

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Speaker 1: ERT's interesting. You just speculating. Okay, there you go, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one birthday, boy, you stop it, please stop it. Wolf.

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Speaker 1: I mean your whole Twitter feed is littered with thank

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Speaker 1: here on your birthday? You know what? Polly, I'm doing

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Speaker 1: Once upon a time you left the az for Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Zach Allen, all two hundred eighty five pounds of him.

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Speaker 1: What a game he had against those forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: Ron Wolfully, what did you learn about your Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: and that victory against the forty nine ers. I heard

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Speaker 1: Paul right there, the resiliency that they showed, the Arizona

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Speaker 1: I will tell you, PAULI, this was my favorite victory

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Speaker 1: In fact, here's Vance Joseph on that Cleveland run game.

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Speaker 1: To beat this team is to contain the run game.

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Speaker 1: I think their first, you know, with one eighty five

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Speaker 1: a game, their first and carries their first in attempts

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Speaker 1: their first and explosive runs. They first in every run

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Speaker 1: category in the league right now, and it's it's fun

431
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Speaker 1: to watch because it's it's it's old school football. Burns

432
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 1: the clock and officer with our offense, his goals should

433
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Speaker 1: be to burn the clock and keep Kyler off the field.

434
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Speaker 1: How different is this going to be versus a Sean

435
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Speaker 1: McVeigh and a Kyle Shanahan. This old school football that

436
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Speaker 1: Advance calls it. Yeah, I think it's old school just

437
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Speaker 1: in the sense that the like the personnels I think

438
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Speaker 1: they do. They do a lot of like three tight

439
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Speaker 1: ends on the field or two tight ends too, like

440
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Speaker 1: two backs, um, which and then you know they're they

441
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: got there's they're tight ends and their backs. There's such

442
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Speaker 1: great athletes that you can make it look like you know,

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Speaker 1: a ten personnel or eleven personnel look. So I think

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Speaker 1: that's going to definitely be a challenge. I think, Um,

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Speaker 1: the run game, honestly, it all kind of it seems

446
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Speaker 1: like a lot of the NFL run game kind of

447
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: comes from the Shanahan coaching trees. So, um, it's you know,

448
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Speaker 1: it's kind of similar to what we have seen obviously,

449
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 1: you know, every team's got different things, but um, you know,

450
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: I think we've we've got a really good plan. I think,

451
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Speaker 1: you know, we've had a really good week of practice

452
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: and guys are definitely coming in and working hard and

453
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Speaker 1: understanding it. And it's I'm excited to get get to work.

454
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Speaker 1: And you know, I hope that you know, it's pouring

455
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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. I hope it's cold. I hope you know

456
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: the wind off the rivers. You know, I wanted to

457
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 1: you know, I need a good old fashioned you know,

458
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: gritty gritty. You know, there's West Coast. You know. I

459
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: love the weather, but I definitely getting spoiled because I'm

460
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: wearing sweatshirts and degrees out here and I'm from Connecticut

461
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: in Boston. So yeah, Zach, I sure you can handle it.

462
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: You better be careful what you wish for. I mean,

463
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: your blood's much thinner when and when you were at

464
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Speaker 1: Boston College. Now, Zach, you sure about this? Yeah, Luckily

465
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Speaker 1: practiced at like seven thirty in the morning when it's

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Speaker 1: the coldest, and so we'll be getting a little bit

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Speaker 1: of work in. But I doubt it's, you know, anything

468
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Speaker 1: like what it could be. There so many more questions

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Speaker 1: for you, Zach, thank you for hanging around. We really

470
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Speaker 1: do appreciate it right there. But Paula, I will tell

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Speaker 1: you right now one of those questions is just how

472
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Speaker 1: often Baker Mayfield is under center? And I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: We will get a question and answer on the sack

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Speaker 1: dance as well. Okay, single game tickets are on sale now.

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Speaker 1: can't believe I forgot to ask J. J. Watt how

478
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Speaker 1: a sack dance i'm me received in the d line

479
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Speaker 1: room today. So we as Zach Allen next on the

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Speaker 1: big red rage presented by Santan four in Gilbert second

481
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Speaker 1: down in sixteen on the Arizona forty three receiver set

482
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: two to the right, Sean Gun snap lands to throw

483
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Speaker 1: from the pocket. Now steps up, gets hit by Zack

484
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Speaker 1: Gallen and sack at the forty six yard line. Big

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Speaker 1: number ninety four has made a couple of plays here today,

486
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Speaker 1: the loss of them on six. Well, I have no

487
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Speaker 1: idea what kind of sack dance it was doing right there,

488
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Speaker 1: but I really don't care. Zach Allen comes inside underneath

489
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: the Glitchia get the sack sack dance? Does it have

490
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Speaker 1: a name? Was it premeditated? Was it in the moment?

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Speaker 1: How spontaneous was it? Please explain? Now, I'm a white boy,

492
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Speaker 1: so I gotta keep it within the frame. So for me,

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Speaker 1: you know, I just try to do that. I've been

494
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Speaker 1: doing that since BC. You know where that got a

495
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Speaker 1: beautiful girlfriend. So I'm gonna keep on doing it all right,

496
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Speaker 1: there you go. That was moments after the game after

497
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Speaker 1: Zach Gallen's big game in the big win against the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Zach Allen is our guest wolf here

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Speaker 1: on the Big Red Rage and by satan Ford and

500
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Speaker 1: Gilbert see, Wolf is your sideline reporter. I'm a full

501
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: service guy, you wondered on the air. So we asked

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Speaker 1: after the game, Zach Allen's here in person if you

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Speaker 1: want to ask him about it, like, for example, how

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Speaker 1: is your sack dance received in the defensive meeting rooms? Like,

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Speaker 1: uh say, compared to like Dennis Gardak and a couple

506
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Speaker 1: of a couple of sack dances he busted out last

507
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Speaker 1: year that had us all wondering what exactly we were

508
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Speaker 1: looking at. Yeah, I mean it's it's got mixed reactions.

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Speaker 1: I'll say it's like fifty to fifty. Like I know,

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Speaker 1: like Isaiah Simmons and uh Byron Murphy they absolutely love it,

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Speaker 1: so obviously you know, I got there there in my corner.

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Speaker 1: But uh JJ and uh coach Bucky, they are strongly

513
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Speaker 1: against it and they're not afraid to what that opinion. So, um,

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00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like that Will Ferrell quote.

515
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Speaker 1: You know, it keeps the people going, it's provocative, so

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Speaker 1: um you know, I think I think I'm gonna ride

517
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Speaker 1: with it. I don't know, we'll see what happened. I'm

518
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Speaker 1: just more focused on getting the sacks and then uh

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what happens in the heat of

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Speaker 1: the moment. You know, Zack, maybe it's that old saint.

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00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: If it's too loud, you're too old. So see the

522
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Speaker 1: younger guys dig it. It's the older guys who don't

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Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, I know. I've been reminding JJ every

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Speaker 1: single day that you know, he's uh, he's closer to

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Speaker 1: forty than he is to twenty. So um yeah, I think,

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with Murph and

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00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 1: uh and Isaiah on that one I had. I just

528
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Speaker 1: cracked up when you said you had to keep it

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Speaker 1: in the frame. Man, I love that. Um. Listen, what

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Speaker 1: why do you think think about the Cleveland Brons right now?

531
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: Think about their offense. Why do you think they put

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield under center and run down situations as much

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Speaker 1: as they do well. I think anytime you can put

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Speaker 1: the quarterback under center, I mean it always there's always

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Speaker 1: a level of uncertainty. I think when a quarterbacks and

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Speaker 1: shotgun on the ball, you know, if they're going to

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Speaker 1: run the ball, you can only really go one way.

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00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: It can really only go, you know, opposite of the

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Speaker 1: running back. So I think defense is now become smart

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Speaker 1: and they start to play for that. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: only so much same side running out of shotgun that

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Speaker 1: you can do. But when the your quarterbacks in their center,

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00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: I mean it's a lot of teams. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you look at like a tendency chart, it's pretty much

545
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Speaker 1: fifty fifty. You know left, right, or you know wherever

546
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: it's going to go. So it definitely is an effective tool.

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Speaker 1: And I think that was the biggest adjustment for me

548
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: and coming from college. Who's in college. Everything's from shotgun

549
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Speaker 1: because everybody wants to either air it out or run

550
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Speaker 1: the read option. But in the NFL, I mean, it's

551
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: a completely different run game. So I think for young

552
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Speaker 1: d linement, it definitely takes you know, a couple of

553
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Speaker 1: years to truly understand it compared to you know, you see,

554
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Speaker 1: you know, skill players that kind of hit hit the

555
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Speaker 1: ground running more often compared to you know, offensive and

556
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Speaker 1: defensive alignement. Interesting speaking alignment, they are really banged up

557
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Speaker 1: on their offensive line. They're likely to be missing their

558
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: two starting tackles. They're starting center. JC Tredder hasn't practice all.

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Speaker 1: That's sort of the norm. He tends to play even

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Speaker 1: without practicing. What does that mean for you guys if

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00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: you're seeing a whole collection of backups? Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: it really you kind of treat it the same way. Um,

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Speaker 1: I mean we look more at the scheme. I mean

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Speaker 1: I feel like, uh, you know, all offensive linemen in

565
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Speaker 1: this in this league, there's a reason why you know

566
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Speaker 1: they're they're in the NFL. They can you know, they

567
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: they can block. So for us, we're more looking at

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Speaker 1: the scheme and we're going to give them the respect.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, if you look at the numbers. As

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Speaker 1: you mentioned before, I mean, the rushing attack is very

571
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Speaker 1: dangerous and it doesn't really matter who's there. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: we we got to respect them and we got to

573
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Speaker 1: play very focused or else you know, they can embarrass us.

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of the mindset that we're taking right now.

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Speaker 1: I know that Nick Chubb did not play practice today,

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Speaker 1: and I know that Kareem Hunt did not practice today either.

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Speaker 1: But I'll ask you this, what's harder to tackle Nick

578
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Speaker 1: Chubb or a fire hydrant? Uh? You know you could.

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Speaker 1: There's a good case to make for a fire hydrant

580
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: or for Nick Chubb. So you know, he uh, we

581
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: were there's times when you're watching the tape and you

582
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: know you're just seeing him just carry three four people

583
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Speaker 1: and you're just you know, you're dying laugh and because

584
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Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, that's just you know, that's

585
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Speaker 1: just a special gift that you know he has. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's you really can't coach that. So um, there's a

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Speaker 1: reason why, you know, I think people consider him a

588
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Speaker 1: top three, top five back in the NFL, and Dream

589
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: Hunts right up there with him. So um, the fact

590
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Speaker 1: that they have two guys of that of that caliber

591
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: is is ridiculous. Um, it's definitely going to be a challenge,

592
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: but yeah, they they both are, you know, terrific backs. Well,

593
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Speaker 1: look when this game came out, everyone circled a Buddha,

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Speaker 1: you know, uh Buddha Baker was talking about with us

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Speaker 1: on the schedule release show here on the Big Red Rage, right,

596
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: and and there's a game within the game the two

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Speaker 1: Heisman winners who used to share a quarterback room in Oklahoma,

598
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Speaker 1: of course, Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield. And uh, here

599
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Speaker 1: was Buddha when the schedule came out earlier this offseason.

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Speaker 1: And what he had to say here on the Big

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Speaker 1: Red Rage. Yeah, Baker Mayfield a guy who's definitely has

602
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: showed up and showed who Baker Mayfield can be. And

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00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: he's a great qbad I'm definitely excited to go against

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00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: him too. I never played in Cleveland, so you know, yeah,

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00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: thank goodness it's mid October. I actually played there two

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Speaker 1: years ninety three, Okay, but before I was born, your

607
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Speaker 1: brutal kist. Yeah, I'm not gonna take the blame on

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Speaker 1: that wall. If our producer Jim Alma Hunter felt the

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Speaker 1: need on your birthday to bust out that cut. By

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Speaker 1: the way, no foolan, just why don't you have a

611
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: sumo wrestler kick me right in a cradle? But tell

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00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: us about Baker and what he looks like and what

613
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: you have to worry about what Baker mayfield, because he

614
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: will pull it and run it if needed. Right. Yeah,

615
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: he's definitely a dual threat. Um. I think you know,

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00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: some people, if you watch the tape, I don't think

617
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: people really give him enough to do. But he definitely

618
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: is a good athlete. Um, definitely. You know, has a

619
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Speaker 1: very strong arm, and you know, he really kind of

620
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: gets that whole offense going. You can tell that they

621
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Speaker 1: rally behind him. You know, obviously Heisman winner. He has

622
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: this just confidence and whoever plays with him, uh, you know, definitely, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know they kind of feed off of that too.

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Speaker 1: I remember even just watching him in college and the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's like the you definitely want him on

626
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: your team, like he's like the perfect teammate. But like

627
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: for like an opponent, like they just hate they're just like, oh,

628
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: you know, because it's just the way he rallies the troops.

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Speaker 1: So it's definitely gonna be difficult to play him, but uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think you know, we're we're excited for

631
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Speaker 1: the challenge. And yeah, I didn't even you know, put

632
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Speaker 1: two and two together when we were playing it to

633
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Speaker 1: two Heisman's from Oklahoma back to back years because I

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Speaker 1: kept on walking into the meal room. I was looking

635
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Speaker 1: on the TV. I'm like, Wow, they're really talking a

636
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: lot about this Cardinals Browns game. I'm like, you know

637
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: what the you know on ESPN, NFL network, It's all

638
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: over the place. And I was like, oh, when I

639
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: think Tyler was a teas in a Baker, I was like, Okay,

640
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: now I get it. Now there's gonna be a lot

641
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: of drama in the Heisman house if you've seen the commercial, right,

642
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: because Kyler and Baker were rooming together because Barry Sanders

643
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: wanted out of Baker's room, the whole thing, you know,

644
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: and look, don't forget for real though, for real in

645
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, obviously there was a matchup. Obviously Kyler beat Baker,

646
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: So you gotta figures he's seething and has been looking

647
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: forward to the rematch because this is what went down

648
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: after the Cardinal's victory out on the field. Go yeah,

649
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: give me that one. You're gonna You're not gonna got

650
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: to hand it. You're gonna have to do it. You

651
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: gotta eat this one. It's all good. Braggar eyes. Bro.

652
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: That was the jersey swap between its former teammates out

653
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: of Midfield Wolf. That was great right there. It really

654
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: was to see that. I mean, it just shows you

655
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: the affection these guys have for each other. When you

656
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: say that still hate you, you know, I mean, honestly,

657
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: what that is is I love you. Of course, That's

658
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: what it comes down to. It's so cool. It's one

659
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: of the best things about the locker room and what

660
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: the locker room is all about. And Zach you know

661
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: all about that. Oh yeah. I mean, I think my

662
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: favorite matchups this year when I get to go against

663
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: old college teammates and you know, I've already was able

664
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: to play against Harold Landry, who is one of my

665
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: good friends in Tennessee. And the fact that we won

666
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: and won the way we did. Uh definitely, Uh, you

667
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: know I can. I'm gonna use that every time I

668
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: see him. By the way, I was gonna say, Corey

669
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: Peters Kentucky team is six and ozho and like the

670
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: highest ranking in like a hundred years. Is he insufferable

671
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: in the d line room right now? How much are

672
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: you hearing about his alma mater, Corey Peters in Kentucky. Oh,

673
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: we we've been hyping up Kentucky just to get Richard

674
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: Laurens angry, especially after last week, and uh yeah, it's uh,

675
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: you know whenever Rochard gets angry and see it because

676
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: he was talking about, oh, we're gonna go ten and three,

677
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: you know, da done, and they're like, Okay, yeah, you

678
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: guys might not win a game the rest of the year,

679
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: and you know, for UK to embarrass them, I mean,

680
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: we're we're trying to get Richard to wear that Kentucky

681
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 1: blue sometime this week. So it's it's going to happen,

682
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: I think, so expect the picture relatively soon. But yeah,

683
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: they got a tough one against Georgia this week, so

684
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how well that's gonna go, but we'll see. Yeah, Polly,

685
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: never forget the law of the locker rope, Paully, the

686
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: guys that you love, you just rip them every day

687
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: all day. You can't rip them enough. The guys that

688
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: thought that you love, the guys that you don't really

689
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: get along with, just kind of leave them alone. Paul. Yeah,

690
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: by the way, J. J. Watt's been in a bad

691
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: mood for like two or three weeks. And it's a

692
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: good thing, this bad mood, I believe, Zach, because man,

693
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: it's even unstoppable. So you know what, I'm looking forward

694
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: to him keeping that up, having that edge. That's been good.

695
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: The two of you are quite a tandem against the

696
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, and yeah, you're gonna have your hands

697
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: full in Cleveland based on this top rank rushing attack.

698
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: So all the best, and Zach, we always love having

699
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Speaker 1: you on. Thanks for the time. Yeah, of course, thank

700
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: you for having me. Thank you, Zach. All the best

701
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: of the dog as well. I know the dog's looking

702
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: forward to when you know, you get home every evening.

703
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: So there you go, and we continue with the Big

704
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: Grace presented by Santan bord In. Gilbert hurry back to

705
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: throw on second and nine in trouble, moves to his left,

706
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: being chased by Bosa, now throws it deep across the

707
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: field near side sho falling fu by Hopkins at the

708
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: tent and tackled at the nine yard line. Kyler Murray

709
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: threw that ball outside the numbers on the far side

710
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: to the near sideline. Five twenty to go, Cardinals lead

711
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: ten to seven. Can they put them away? Can they

712
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: get a touchdown? Snap the kyler, he throws a fade

713
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: left side in the end zone and in his conferd

714
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: up down by de hop Dee hop hought it with

715
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: Josh Norman draped all over him trying to pull the

716
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: ball away. What a great church by the Andrey Hopkins

717
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: broke the sickles out on the fade and stamped the

718
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: pig up the air and brought it in man. At

719
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: some point, when you got dudes who are just better

720
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: than the other team, that's enough. Yeah, the D and

721
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: D hop standing for dominant and in that case, deciding

722
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: touchdown that was the winning margin. Seventeen ten Cardinals get

723
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: to win against the forty nine ers. What Cliff Kingsbury

724
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: say after the game, there's sometimes where you just throw

725
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: away the playsheet and the best play is just your

726
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: quarterback to your best player on offense, and that would

727
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: be DeAndre Hopkins in that sequence right there, the big

728
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: jump ball catch and then the back shoulder were wrestled

729
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: it away from Josh Norman and six grabs eighty seven

730
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: yards and he passes Larry fits Joel by the way

731
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Speaker 1: for most receptions ever in NFL history by a player

732
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Speaker 1: before the age of thirty. DeAndre Hopkins. Wow, yeah, how

733
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: about that. As we were talking earlier, Paul, he was

734
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: a great thing to actually see those two guys, in particular,

735
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: those two offensive players, Kyler Murray and DeAndre Hopkins take

736
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: this game over and just start making plays, plays that matter,

737
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: plays that actually allowed them to win the game. And

738
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: think about it, they took over the ball. Then after

739
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: that touchdown, with four minutes and twelve seconds to play,

740
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: they ended up with two first downs. They ended the

741
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: game that four minute offense. Kyler twenty two at thirty one.

742
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: He leads the NFL right now in completion percentage seventy

743
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: five plus. And he's just doing those little things, you know,

744
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: and we've talked about it. And then this week on

745
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 1: the Pash Pod, did you catch GM Steve Kim talking

746
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: to Dave Pash about where he's seen the most growth

747
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 1: from Kyler Murray. He's done a fantastic job, in my opinion,

748
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: growing in a lot of different areas. Two things pre

749
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: snap and post snap. The things he can do with

750
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: his eyes. You start to see him manipulating safeties and

751
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: defenders where he can look off and locate secondary and

752
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: third options, whereas before it might have been one, two

753
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: and in run about that. That's from episode twelve of

754
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: The Day Pash Podcast featuring the Cardinals GM Steve Kim.

755
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: It's available now wherever you get your podcasts. Philis updates

756
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: on The Day Pash podcast fall along on Twitter at

757
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: pash pod. Your Reaction Wolf. You know, Paula. Obviously, we've

758
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: been talking about Kyler Murray in the development of Kyler

759
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: Murray and how he's beating teams with his brain now,

760
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: and that really is what Steve Kim is talking about.

761
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: I believe right there. But I will tell you right now,

762
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals offense, the best defense the Cardinals might

763
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: have is their offense this week in Cleveland, because Polly,

764
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, the Cleveland Browns are gonna

765
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: line up number one rushing offense in terms of everything

766
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: you could possibly imagine everything Bali in terms of running

767
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: the football. Their number one in rushing yards per game

768
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: and number one in rushing yards per play, and a

769
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: whole lot more than that. And if you put the

770
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: tape on and watch him. This is the best offensive

771
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: line in my opinion, they're run blocking offensive line, the

772
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: best run blocking offensive line in the league. They're gonna

773
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: line up and they're gonna hammer the ball. The Arizona

774
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: Cardinals have really struggled at times to stop the run.

775
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: Now I realize in the first game of the season

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00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: against the Titans and Derrick Henry, they rose up to

777
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: the challenge and shut them down. But listen, the best

778
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: thing that Cardinals can do is score points. Score points,

779
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: Paully with that offense right now, get a two possession

780
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: lead in the second half, and try to force the

781
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns to be one dimensional where they throw the ball.

782
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: With Baker Mayfield, you stick him in a three dimensional

783
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: offense where you can run it, throw it, and use

784
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: play action. Now, all of a sudden, they're a different offense, Paul.

785
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: So to me, if the Arizona Cardinals offense can somehow

786
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: some way post some points on this very good Cleveland

787
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: Browns defense man, that would go a long way to

788
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: actually helping out the Arizona Cardinals defense. Defend the Browns. Yeah,

789
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: because the Browns passing game, it is nothing to write

790
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: home about. Obj their number one receiver Odell Beckham Junior

791
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: has nine catches on nineteen targets. That chemistry just doesn't

792
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: exist between the quarterback and the number one receivers. So

793
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: think about it. If you're Cleveland's offense, just flip it.

794
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: What's the best thing you want to do. You want

795
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 1: to run the ball, you want to control the clock,

796
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: you want to keep Kyler Murray off the field. Yes,

797
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: so you can flip that. Now, let me ask you

798
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: this question when it comes to the Cardinals defense, because

799
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: you're right, the Browns are number one in every single

800
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: rushing category. Don't make me list them again because there's

801
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: at least a half dozen of us just brutal. So

802
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: think about this, though. The Cardinals defensively twenty eighth overall

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00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: in rushing yards allowed, Yes, thirty first in yards per

804
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: carry allowed. Yes, Yet they're surviving on their third down

805
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: fourth down percentage, which is around thirty one percent. All right,

806
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: They've been stellar in those money situations. They're number three

807
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL in takeaways and force fumbles their number one.

808
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: So what is this sustainable? A Cardinals defense that's the

809
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: number six scoring defense despite being lackluster against the run. Yes,

810
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: Polly I do believe that it is as long as

811
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: the offense continues to score points the way that it

812
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: is now. I know you could go back to the

813
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers game and say the most recent game

814
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: they played right there, the Cardinals only scored seventeen points

815
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: and somehow, some way they found a way to win

816
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: the game. And they did, and their defense played very

817
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: very well in critical situations. But having said that, you're

818
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 1: not going to face a rookie quarterback every week making

819
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: his first start, and that's what Trey Lance was doing.

820
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: He was starting for the very first time in the

821
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: National Football League, and I think the Cardinals benefited from that. Now,

822
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: to me, this is a situation where Baker Mayfield in

823
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: the right offense, can definitely hurt you. This is going

824
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: to be a bigger challenge for them, There's no doubt

825
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: about that. But Paul, the way they run the ball,

826
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: it is amazing. Rundown situations first and ten, second and

827
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: one to six, they put Baker Mayfield under center the

828
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: vast majority of the time he's under center, and that's

829
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: because they want Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt running down

830
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: own hill towards that line of scrimmage. The Cardinals box

831
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: has got to be at its best. It's very, very

832
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: similar to what they saw against the Titans, and that's

833
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: why I'm kind of encouraged about this, even though they're

834
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 1: facing the best offensive line I think they've seen all

835
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: year long, and the two best running backs they've seen

836
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: all year long. To me, I think it's really gonna

837
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: be okay because they've already faced Derrick Henry in the

838
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, and Zaven Collins and Isaiah Simmons, with that experience,

839
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: playing a lot more downhill, Paul Well, it's not nearly

840
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: as complex as going against McVeigh and Shanahan. Fans Joseph

841
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: talked about that today that every single call had two

842
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: or three subcalls underneath it that they had to be

843
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: ready to check into, and that's why Jordan Hicks got

844
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the snaps. Now, it's not nearly

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