1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: What is up straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. 3 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: Straight Fire for Thursday, December twelfth. Got a phenomenal Thursday 4 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: night football game for you tonight. RAMS at the Niners 5 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: San Francisco favored by two and a half. Will do 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: best bet at the end of the podcast, it's an 7 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: elimination game for the Niners. Rams still will be in 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: contact with the loss, but not by much. We have 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff to get to today, including a 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: great interview. 11 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 3: You guys are gonna love it. 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: Rudy Carpenter college football fans who followed the PAC twelve 13 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: back in the day Pack ten. Actually it might have 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: been that long ago. Rudy Carpenter, Arizona State QB popping 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: on to talk college football playoff, Arizona State's improbable run, 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 2: what he thinks about the lines for Arizona State, and 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: we talk a lot about nil transfer portal. It's really 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: interesting given the Bill Belichick news. So the Belichick news 19 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: became official late on Wednesday. We recorded the interview earlier 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: on Wednesday, so I hope you're just not confused by that. 21 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: But before we get to Belichick and UNC, I listen, 22 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: I probably should. Okay, one thing we're not doing is 23 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna talk about this Jimmy Butler stuff. 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 3: There's too much other stuff happening. 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler apparently wants out, and then his agent is 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: disputing a report on Twitter and calling out Chams whatever. 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 3: I'm not going there. I don't care. I don't think 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 3: there's that much juice in that story right now. There 29 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: could be, but not right now. 30 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: Before I get to Bill Belichick and UNC, I've got 31 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: to quickly talk about this Joe Burrow thing. Okay, So 32 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: Monday night football Bengals at Cowboys. While Burrow's playing in 33 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: the game, someone broke into his house. Here's where it 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: gets very odd. He had a police officer apparently stationed 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: outside the house. Okay, someone still broke into his master 36 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: bedroom I guess, and then ransacked it and left. 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: This is where it gets weird. 38 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: A somewhat famous Instagram person TikTok whatever named Olivia Ponton 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: pontn goes into Burrow's house and is like, oh my gosh, 40 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: someone's broken in. 41 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: Calls the police. First of all, she calls her mom, 42 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: and her mom tells her to call. 43 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: The police, and then Olivia calls nine one one and 44 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 2: TMZ got the phone call, and you're like, okay, oh, 45 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 2: so that must be Joe Burrow's girlfriend. Well wait a secon, 46 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 2: I guess it was two. Late twenty twenty three, Joe 47 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: Burrow announced an engagement to another woman named Olivia. But 48 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 2: it's not Olivia Ponton. It's some girl he's been dating 49 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 2: since Ohio State. Now they're not extremely public with it, 50 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 2: but she has posted on ig with a photo of 51 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: Joe and the ring and like, whatever, Okay, I know 52 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: this is stuff you don't really care about, but I'm 53 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 2: just a little perplexed. So Joe Burrow meets the media 54 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: during the week and yesterday he sits at the table. 55 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: He clearly is unhappy, and he starts with I feel 56 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: like my privacy has been violated in more ways than one, 57 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: and way more is already out there than I would 58 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: want out there. 59 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: And then I care to share. So he said he's 60 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: not gonna answer specific questions about the incident. We live 61 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: a p up, we live a public life. 62 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: One of my least favorite parts of that is the 63 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: lack of privacy, and that has been difficult for me 64 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: to deal with my entire career. It's definitely been difficult 65 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: this week. For the most part, I'm pretty good at it, 66 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: considering during the season you don't really have a personal life. Obviously, 67 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: things come up you don't expect. When those come up, 68 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: you try to do your best to handle them quickly 69 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: and be able to move on from it and focus 70 00:03:58,400 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: on ball. 71 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: This is where it gets weird. 72 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: Burrow is engaged to a woman named Olivia. So why 73 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: is an influencer named Olivia who also was in the 74 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: SI swimsuit issue. Why does she have a key to 75 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: his house and was going into his house on a 76 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 2: Monday when he's not there? And I know who cares? Jason, 77 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: what are you wasting your time for? You guys aren't 78 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: gonna find this a little bit odd. Now she told 79 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: the police that she works for Joe or is an 80 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: employee of Joe, And now it's like, what's so Burrow 81 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: is really rattled by all this. I don't know, folks, 82 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: I just wanted to put that out there. Listen, hey, 83 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: pro athletes, it's a tough It's. 84 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: Tough, Okay. I don't know what's going on with Burrow. 85 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's nothing untoward, but Good luck to Joe 86 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: Burrow getting out of that one with whatever he's got cooking. Anyways, 87 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: let's get to the real big story at Sports Today 88 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 2: before we get to Rudy Carpenter, and that is Bill 89 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: Belichick inking a three year I'm sorry, five year contract 90 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: to coach UNC football. The seventy two year old Belichick 91 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: got a five year deal. Numbers very I saw one 92 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: report that said it's like technically a three year deal 93 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: at thirty mili. I don't know what the final two 94 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: moves are the two years of the deal. It's a 95 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: little unclear. Not everything has come out yet. Obviously, North 96 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: Carolina b I'm pretty sure it's a state school right 97 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: in the University of North. 98 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: Carolina, Chapel Hill. 99 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 2: So we'll get all the info on his deal and 100 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: his staff and everything. The one name that came out 101 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: that was super interesting, and that's Michael Lombardi, a guy 102 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: I worked with at FS one, a guy I've had 103 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 2: on this podcast. He is going to be the general 104 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: manager of UNC football. He currently works at Vson in Vegas, 105 00:05:55,320 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: and he announced he's leaving and he's going to Chapel 106 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: Hill to be the GM to Bill Belichick's head coach. Folks, 107 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: I gotta say, as far as sports experiments go, this 108 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: is one of. 109 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: My favorite in the last like five years. 110 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: I am absolutely obsessed with this story and how it's 111 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: gonna trickle out. Listen, everybody's putting in their guesses. Is 112 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: Belichick go to win a championship? I would put that 113 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 2: odds at very slim. 114 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 3: Get to a playoff? 115 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's certainly getting to a playoff, 116 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: no doubt about it. But between the recruiting the transfer portal, 117 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: there's so much to navigate here. And here's the thing. Lombardi, 118 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: the best I can tell, he's never worked at the 119 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: college level. Belichick, best I can tell, has not worked 120 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 2: at the college level in many, many years now. Obviously, 121 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: he is friendly with Nick Saban, and I'm sure he's 122 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 2: got many guys he can lean on. But this is 123 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: a different animal. This has the making to me, in 124 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: my opinion, this is like a movie script. The embattled 125 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: legendary coach decides, I'm I'm coming back for one more hurrah, 126 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: and I'm going to college to do it. Enter your 127 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: Rodney Dangerfield jokes here, folks. This is just an awesome story. 128 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: Like UNC now instantly for next season, becomes a top 129 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: ten interesting program, top five. Remember Deon Sanders went to Colorado. 130 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: The ratings were through the roof. Colorado's relevance was massive. 131 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: Then they struggled at the end of the season. Guess 132 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: what year two Dion hit support a hard and obviously 133 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: he has his son who's a Heisman contender and Travis 134 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: Hunter a Heisman contender. Like they got a squad. But 135 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: it went well for Dion in year two, which a 136 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: lot of people remember, Brad Powers came on here and 137 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: was like, now that's an under bet and I tailed 138 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: him on it as a loss. Dion's done pretty damn 139 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: good and he's not making house calls and he doesn't 140 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: have a lot of experience coaching. Okay, yeah, he was 141 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: at Jackson State and a couple other I think another spot, 142 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: but like Bill Belichick has a wealth of knowledge. Now, yes, 143 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: the football game is different in the pros in the college, 144 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: there's no doubt about that. But the college game is 145 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: changing and if Bill can sell listen, folks, Indiana came 146 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: out of nowhere with a new coach who would have 147 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: been a JMU where I graduated from new coach ten 148 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: to fifteen starters from the transfer portal and they're in 149 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: the playoff. 150 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 3: It can be done. Okay, So this idea. 151 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: That Bill Belichick is not gonna be able to do it, 152 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: even though it happened in Indiana, it happened in smu 153 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: Arizona State Boise. Like so many programs, if you hit 154 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: the portal hard enough and you're a backup at Alabama 155 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: or Georgia or anywhere in the SEC or the Big Ten, 156 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: and you want to go start for a second tier team, 157 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 2: you can do that and that team all of a 158 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: sudden gets five or six of those guys. WHOA, we 159 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: got a squad. So I'm fascinated by this. Would not 160 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: surprise me if UNC won ten games extra. 161 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: I don't even know who their quarterback is going to be. 162 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 2: But if you are a guy thinking, man, I might 163 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: have a shot at the pros, I think you got 164 00:08:58,559 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: to consider you NC. 165 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: And remember I'm a Jets fan. I don't like Belichick. 166 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: Right Without further ado, let's get to our guest, former 167 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: ASU quarterback Rudy Carpenter. 168 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 169 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio 170 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 171 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: listen live. You know a guy, Jason likes to think 172 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: he knows everything when it comes to sports. 173 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: I know what sports fans want. 174 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: But for everything he doesn't, he knows a guy who does. 175 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 4: Let's just say, I know a guy who knows a 176 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 4: guy who knows another guy. 177 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: All right, let's welcome into straight Fire. 178 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: A new face on the podcast if you're watching on YouTube, 179 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: a new voice if you're listening online. Rudy Carpenter, a 180 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: legend in Arizona State circles. Arizona State has a buy 181 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: in the college football playoff. 182 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: Rob G proposed him, Hey, we can get this guy on. 183 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, Rudy, of course, come on, guys, 184 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 2: a legend and Arizona State's having a moment. 185 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: How are you, my man? 186 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 5: I'm doing good. It's been fun watching ASU this year. 187 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are on quite a role currently. 188 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 2: You are with Endurance Sports Management, president of that firm. 189 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: You guys represent a bunch of players and coaches, and 190 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: obviously there's a huge college football story. 191 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: We'll get to shortly on Belichick in North Carolina. 192 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: But I want to start with with ASU and this 193 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: incredible run they've had. First of all, I mean this 194 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: team was picked, I believe, dead last in the conference 195 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: in the preseason. 196 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 3: They came out of nowhere. 197 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: Tell me what kind of ride this has been like 198 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: for your Sun Devils. 199 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, yeah, it's been a crazy ride, right 200 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 5: this year. 201 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 4: I think, like you said, picked last in the in 202 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 4: the in the Big Twelve, I think most people thought 203 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 4: they would win maybe four games this year. You know, 204 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 4: everybody that asked me, I could only count about three 205 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 4: wins when I was looking at that schedule. So with 206 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 4: that being said, I mean, to me, look, I think 207 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 4: r at Lashly at SMUs done an incredible job. Coach 208 00:10:55,240 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 4: Signetti at Indiana's done an incredible job, you know. But 209 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Spencer Danielson at Boise State has 210 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 4: done a great job. But when I look around, I mean, 211 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 4: based on the expectations, based on the roster, everything that 212 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 4: goes into it. If you ask me, Kenny Dillingham, I 213 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 4: think is the national coach of the year, without a doubt, 214 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 4: He's the Big Twelve coach of the year. 215 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 5: But to me, he's. 216 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 4: Done, you know, an incredible job with this team this year, 217 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 4: and I think absolutely has a case for national Coach 218 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 4: of the Year. I think the offensive coordinator Marcus Arroyo 219 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: has done a great job. The defensive coordinator Brian Ward's 220 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 4: done a great job. Both were awarded with just, you know, 221 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: brand new contract extensions. And I think it's a shame 222 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 4: that Cam Scatta, who's not in New York for the 223 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 4: Heisman Trophy presentation. 224 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of feel like you got jobbed on 225 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: that one. 226 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: You know, when we talk about Indiana, it's like, oh, well, 227 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: they hit the portal hard. They're basically a transfer team, 228 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: and that's how Indiana did it. Was there a secret 229 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: to the success of Kenny and Asu this year because 230 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: it wasn't as cut and dry as hey, let's go 231 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: grab twelve starters in the portal? 232 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, but they did. I mean they hit the portal hard. 233 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 4: Cam scadd who's a portal guy. Sam Levitt's a portal guy. 234 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 4: These guys are portal guys. But in my viewpoint, what 235 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 4: I think is the big difference maker is just Kenny 236 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 4: Dillingham and his personality. I don't know, you know, if 237 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 4: you guys have paid attention to his press conferences or 238 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 4: you know what he's done in the media. But a 239 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 4: couple things recently, he was on barstool Sports with Big 240 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 4: Cat and they were talking about the ending to the 241 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 4: BYU game in which you know, they could have handed 242 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 4: the ball off, scored a touchdown, a two yard line 243 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 4: games over. Instead, they played this milk the clock game 244 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 4: where ultimately they ended up losing fifty yards trying to 245 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 4: throw the ball as a throwaway and have the game end. 246 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 5: That didn't work. 247 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 4: It gave BYU the ball at midfield to throw a 248 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 4: hell Mary that was hot. Most coaches would have, you know, 249 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 4: played some weird eame where they would have, you know, 250 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 4: tried to deflect. 251 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 5: Kenny was very honest. Look, it was a terrible coaching job. 252 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 4: If I was smart, I would have just turned around, 253 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 4: handed the ball off the camp Scadaby would have scored, 254 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: the game would have been over. 255 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 5: Totally my fault. 256 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 4: On top of things like when you look at how 257 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 4: Kenny handles his players and the transfer portal, I deal 258 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 4: with so many players. When these players enter the transfer portal, 259 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 4: these coaches whine and cry and complain and talk about 260 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 4: how these kids aren't loyal and they just go off 261 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 4: on these kids. Whenever players enter the transfer portal that 262 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 4: play for Kenny, doing him he does everything for them. 263 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 4: Number One, he brings into the office to communicate. Number Two, 264 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 4: he tells them you can enter the portal and if 265 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 4: you do, I will do everything to help you go 266 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 4: to a better situation. And I still want you to 267 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: be a part of this team while we make this 268 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 4: playoff run. And so I think Kenny has done a 269 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 4: great job with the play players saying hey, listen, I'm 270 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 4: here as a coach and I want to make as 271 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 4: much money as possible. And I moved around to different 272 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 4: coaching spots until I found the best fit. I don't 273 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 4: want to be. I don't want to be, you know, 274 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 4: a hypocrite. So if you guys want to leave, I 275 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 4: want to help. Yeah, I know you guys want to 276 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 4: get paid. I want to help. And I think that 277 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,239 Speaker 4: that's who he is naturally, and so because he's naturally 278 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 4: like that, it's authentic, and I think that message speaks 279 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 4: well to the players, and the players are able to 280 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: buy into him and to go play for him instead 281 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 4: of just sitting back saying this guy's a fraud. Now 282 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 4: let me by which, by the way, most college coaches are. 283 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: They are Yeah, yeah, I'm not going to try to 284 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: defend the coaches. 285 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 3: A lot of them are. 286 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: Let me ask you about this whole like you entering 287 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: the porter during bull season. I think it's the Duke 288 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: quarterback Malik Murphy. This guy had like a record setting 289 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: season for Duke and he's like, Okay, I'm going to 290 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: enter the portal. 291 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 3: I'm not playing in the Gator Bowl. And Lane Kiffin 292 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: sounds off on it because old missus playing Duke. He's like, 293 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: this is terrible. I'm just curious. Where are your thoughts 294 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 3: on that? 295 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: You reference Dillingham and guys entering the portal like they're 296 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: going to the playoffs. I can't imagine a lot of 297 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: guys are going to be entering the portal from ASU. 298 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: But if you're in an exhibition game that's just a bowl. Yeah, sure, 299 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: I got no problem with it. Where are you on that? 300 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 4: I mean it's tough because, like to me, it's a 301 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 4: business now. Yeah, and so these guys have to strike 302 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 4: when it's hot. They have to be able to maximize 303 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 4: their opportunity to get paid. Personally, I don't understand why 304 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 4: if you're Malik Murphy, you sat on the bench at Texas, 305 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 4: you now found a home at Duke where you're the 306 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: starter you want to play in the NFL, why not 307 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 4: go chase the big bag in the NFL instead of 308 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 4: the peanuts in NIL and college football, where now he's 309 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 4: got to find a place to go play. You know, 310 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: is he guaranteed a starting job? I don't know. I 311 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: mean so so I get it. I'm in a weird spot. 312 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 4: I want all of these guys to get paid. I 313 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 4: want all these guys to make as much money as possible. 314 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 4: If you don't want to play in the bowl game, 315 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 4: somebody else will step up and play whatever. But at 316 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 4: the same time, to me, it's like, hey, you made 317 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 4: a commitment at least for this year, to this team. 318 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 4: You made a commitment for this season. So it's like, 319 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 4: if you want to enter the portal, enter the portal, 320 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 4: but why stop playing? Finish the bowl game, Finish the playoffs. 321 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 4: I don't understand why. I'm seeing guys that are going 322 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 4: to be fifth, sixth, seventh round picks, maybe even undrafted, 323 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 4: who are like I'm declaring for the draft and not 324 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 4: going to play in the bowl game. It's like, Bro, 325 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 4: you're gonna be lucky to make a team next year, right, 326 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 4: you might as well get as much football in as possible. 327 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at Murphy and again it's just one guy. 328 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: So he redshirted. He only I guess, started two games 329 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: at Texas, and you know, now he starts to do. 330 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: He's only twenty years old. But you're right, this. 331 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: Idea that he's going to be as third school in 332 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 2: three years. Does that look good to NFL people. I 333 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: don't know if they do. You think they care? I 334 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: don't you talk to NFL people all the time you're 335 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: dealing with them. 336 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 3: But like, I don't know, Murphy, I would. 337 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 2: Much rather if I'm drafting in the NFL, I would 338 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: much rather take a twenty three year old quarterback than 339 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: like a twenty one year old, wouldn't you? 340 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 4: Well, I think most guys will see it the other 341 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 4: way around, because they want youth. The NFL draft is 342 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 4: about beauty pageant. The NFL draft is about ceiling for potential. 343 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 4: It's very rarely about you know, how good are you today? 344 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 4: I mean, just think about it. Sam Donald's been in 345 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 4: the NFL for like fifteen years already, is what it 346 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 4: feels like. He's literally only like twenty six years old, 347 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 4: or just turn twenty seven. I mean, Daniel Jones, it's 348 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 4: older than Sam Donald, I think so, you know, it's 349 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 4: weird as far as how NFL teams look at it. 350 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 4: I think before NIL, you know, teams didn't like guys 351 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 4: that transferred. They looked at it different. I think they 352 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 4: looked at it like, hey, if you're having to transfer, why, 353 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 4: what's wrong with you? Right, there's got to be an 354 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 4: issue with you. Now that NIL is in place, I 355 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 4: think all these NFL teams now just know that every 356 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 4: single offseason in college football is free agency. I mean, 357 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 4: if you look at NFL players right now, if guys 358 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 4: could enter free agency every single year, they probably would. Yeah, 359 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 4: that's what college football is now. You can have free 360 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 4: agency every single year. So I think NFL teams now 361 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 4: look at it as like, hey, these are guys just 362 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 4: chasing a bag. These are guys just trying to get paid. 363 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 4: That is what it is now. You know, will NFL 364 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 4: teams look at it and say, maybe this guy's high maintenance. Yeah, Well, 365 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 4: they look at it and say, hey, maybe the only 366 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 4: thing this guy cares about is his money? 367 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 5: Yeah? Does he love football? I don't know. Maybe that's 368 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 5: a tough one. 369 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 4: I still think at the end of the day, they're 370 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 4: look at it and say, if you're a quarterback. What's 371 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 4: your accuracy, like what you're timing, Like, what's your anticipation, 372 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 4: Like can you make all the throws? How tall are you? 373 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: How fast are you? How BIG's your hands? And all 374 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 4: of those things are still gonna matter much more than 375 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 4: what you did in free agency in college. 376 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the measurables matter. 377 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: I am just curious when you look at some of 378 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: these guys bouncing around. 379 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: Hitting the portal. I mean, let's be real, Rudie, Like, 380 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: it's tough to make the NFL. 381 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 2: Okay, you know, all these guys transferring, they're doing it thinking, oh, 382 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to get one step close to the NFL. 383 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: The reality is, you know, they should probably be thinking 384 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: about like life after football. 385 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: Would you say that's more realistic or no? 386 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 5: Yeah it is, But like I know kids where maybe 387 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 5: it's not even like that. 388 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I know kids a quarterback at you know, 389 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 4: Ohio State, and you know, I mean he was a 390 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 4: massive recruit going there. You know, he didn't win the job. 391 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 4: They brought the kid in from Kansas State. This year, 392 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 4: they still paid this ca had a bunch of money 393 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 4: in nil They paid him a bunch of money to 394 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 4: play in the Bowl Game last year, even though we 395 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 4: got hurt three plays in, and they essentially came to 396 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 4: him and they were like, hey, we can't guarantee you 397 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 4: anything next year, so if you want to go do something, 398 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 4: go do something. I mean they almost kind of gave 399 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 4: him no choice but to any portal. I think what's 400 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 4: going on now is we're getting into a situation with 401 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 4: the big schools at least where there's an expectation that 402 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 4: every player is getting paid. And so this is the 403 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 4: way that these coaches. It's almost like these coaches want 404 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 4: the scholarships back, so they go to the kid and 405 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 4: it's like, hey, look, we're not paying you this year, 406 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 4: so if you want to bounce, bounce, we want your 407 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 4: scholarship back. But that kid can now enter the portal, 408 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 4: and now he can go negotiate with ten other teams 409 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 4: where not only is he going to get a chance 410 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 4: to be the starter, but he's also going to get paid. 411 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: I have any kids come to you for advice and 412 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: been like, hey, man, listen, I'm a backup left tackle. 413 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 3: I'm probably not going to see the field this season. 414 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: I could go start, I would have to step down 415 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: in class and go to I'm just picking a school 416 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: out of mine, tu Lane and they want me to 417 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: start there and they're offering me one hundred thousand dollars. 418 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 2: But I really love it here at Georgia. Should I 419 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 2: leave for Tulane? 420 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 3: Like what do I do? 421 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: Have You had people coming to ask you, and I'm 422 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 2: just a hypothetical situation. On some level, it's not the 423 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: worst thing in the world to be a backup as 424 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: opposed to going and starting somewhere else, just to start right. 425 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 5: Yeah. 426 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 4: Literally, since we've been on this phone call, I've gotten 427 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 4: a couple of text messages from guys you're talking about. 428 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 5: I mean it's I mean, yeah, it's never ending. 429 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 4: I mean the number of guys I talked to on 430 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 4: a daily basis is crazy about this type of stuff. 431 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 5: But I would. 432 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 4: Disagree every single every single player is going to if 433 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 4: they're a backup at Georgia and they can go to 434 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 4: Tulane for a couple hundred thousand and be a starter, 435 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: They're gone. 436 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: Wow, really sec football every weekend versus Too Lane. I mean, again, 437 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 2: maybe I'm being shortsighted, but one hundred thousand dollars, you know, 438 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: for one year, like that's obviously huge for a college kid. 439 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 3: But okay, is the education at Georgia better? I don't 440 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 3: know that it is. 441 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: Are you setting yourself up at a major or you 442 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: just hopscotching to chase some money when you're young. 443 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: These guys aren't investing it, are they. 444 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 2: I mean aren't they just buying cars and being young kids? 445 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: I would have done that. 446 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 5: Well yeah, sure, but but you have to also understand. 447 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 5: I mean I have talked to very few kids who 448 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 5: truly care about the education. I mean, that's just like. 449 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 4: A non sequitor. They don't even care about the education. 450 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 4: I mean it's like, yeah, I mean what, you know, 451 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 4: what are they going? What are they going to study 452 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 4: at their school that's worth anything anyways? I mean you know, 453 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 4: that's just how they feel, right Like what. 454 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: Well, what do you respond to that, Like, Hey, what 455 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: are you going to be doing a thirty years old buddy? 456 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, uh, yeah, of course. 457 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 4: But I mean, you know, at the end of the day, 458 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 4: I mean, look, we all feel how we feel. But 459 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 4: I mean in today's world, you know, I just don't know. 460 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 4: You know, what are you going to be able to 461 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 4: get job wise with a communications degree? 462 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 5: I mean, what are you going to be able to 463 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 5: get job wise? With African American Studies degree. I mean, 464 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 5: and that's what these guys major in. 465 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 4: So like, I don't really know, but what I will 466 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 4: say is that, I mean, I've dealt with so many guys. 467 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 4: I mean, there's an offensive linem at the University of 468 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 4: Utah right now that you know, made almost eight hundred 469 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 4: thousand this year and the university's paying am almost six 470 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 4: hundred this upcoming year. But he could have left for Michigan, Alabama, 471 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 4: Georgia and got way more money. So to me, it's 472 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 4: like you're talking in one hundred thousand dollars range. Yeh yeah, yeah, 473 00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 4: different for a kid, for a kid too, you know, 474 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 4: for a Fresno State kid. 475 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 5: I mean, I guess that's the real question. 476 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 4: Is the money that we're talking with power I guess 477 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 4: you call it power four now, the acc the Big Ten, 478 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 4: the Big twelve, the SEC the money that you're talking 479 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 4: about in those conferences. Compared to the Mountain West, the 480 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 4: group of five schools, that's. 481 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 5: Totally different, interesting, totally different. 482 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 4: But for those big schools, the Ohio States, I mean, look, 483 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 4: if you're a starter, if you're a starting quarterback for 484 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 4: a Power for school, a big Power for school, I mean, 485 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 4: you're at least gonna get over three hundred four hundred grand. 486 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: Wow, regardless of talent level or where you guys are 487 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 3: in the standings. 488 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 4: That's like, if you're going to be the starter, if 489 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 4: you're going to be the starter, if you're well, here's 490 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 4: a good situation. 491 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 5: If you're the backup quarterback at Ohio State this year. 492 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 4: Okay, and you enter the portal and you're now talking 493 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 4: to Iowa, Wisconsin, these types of schools. Okay, yeah, I 494 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 4: mean yeah, you're talking easily three four hundred thousand at 495 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 4: the least. 496 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: That's insane. 497 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: So I'm still stunned. A Utah, Now, is this is 498 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 2: this you talk? You don't have to give his name? 499 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: Is he a NFL prospects? Six hundred thousand seems a 500 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: little rich for an offensive lineman. I'm assuming he's a 501 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: mountain of a left tackle. 502 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 4: I mean he's a great player. Yeah, he's an NFL 503 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 4: prospect out of doubt. I mean this last year, you 504 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 4: give me a half a million. 505 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 3: I mean, now, well that's written. 506 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: Now, that's different than one hundred thousand or you know, 507 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 2: seventy five thousand dollars. You get that money, you know, 508 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: that's if you invest it and do it right, you're 509 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 2: gonna be in good shape going forward. Let me spin 510 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: this forward to the North Carolina Belichick situation, which is 511 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 2: popping off right now. A lot of people his former 512 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 2: players are saying that ain't gonna work in college. But 513 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 2: the Dion model, coupled with what you've mentioned at Indiana 514 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: ASU SMU, you hit the portal and you could turn 515 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 2: things around real quick. Now you add Bill Belichick's name 516 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: to the team that's going into the portal, and it's like, Oh, 517 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 2: that's a jet fuel to what North Carolina can do. 518 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 3: I don't know their NIL situation. 519 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 2: I've heard it's not amazing, but I wonder if that 520 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 2: would quickly turn when Bill Belichick is the one soliciting donations. 521 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 3: From the big money donors. 522 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: Just your thoughts on how the Belichick UNC thing will 523 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: pan out. 524 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 5: I mean, who knows. 525 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 4: I've heard so many it's I don't mean to laugh 526 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 4: at Bill Belichick because he's an incredible NFL coach. He's 527 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 4: won a baunch of Super Bowls. Yeah, probably widely regarded 528 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 4: as the best coach of all time. But like whenever 529 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 4: I hear people in the NFL say, oh, I can. 530 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 5: Go coach in college. It's so easy. 531 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 4: I'm going to turn it into an NFL factory. If 532 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 4: every player wants to play in the NFL. Right, every 533 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 4: high school kid, every college kid wants to play in 534 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 4: the NFL. So we're going to turn this program into 535 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 4: an NFL factor that just puts out NFL guys after 536 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 4: NFL guys. Yeah, like every coach on planet Earth has 537 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 4: literally thought about that, and very few guys are able 538 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 4: to do it. And I think what Bill Belichick learned 539 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 4: in the NFL is that if you don't have great ownership, 540 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 4: and if you don't have a great front office, no 541 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 4: matter how good of a coach you are, it's very 542 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 4: difficult to win in the NFL. Bill Belichick learned that, 543 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 4: Nick Saban learned that. I think at North Carolina, all 544 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 4: of Bill Belichick's theories about football are going to get tested, 545 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 4: all of them, because now it's a lot different. He 546 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 4: has to recruit, he has to deal with the transfer 547 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 4: portal when he talks all the crazy stuff that he 548 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 4: talks to these kids. These guys aren't under four year contracts. 549 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 4: They can tell him to pound sand and get in 550 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 4: the transfer ortal the next day. They don't have to 551 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 4: be treated, you know, like Bill Belichick treated Tom O'Brady. 552 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 4: Tom Brady or other guys, they. 553 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 5: Can just leave, that's fair. 554 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 4: He doesn't have the organization anymore of the ownership and 555 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 4: the front office there is. He's gonna have street agents 556 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 4: in these kids' ears, fan bases, collectives, people talking to, 557 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 4: you know, the president of the school and the athletic 558 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 4: There's just a lot more that I think that Bill 559 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 4: Belichick's gonna have to deal with than what it was 560 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 4: when he was coaching in the NFL. 561 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 5: So do I have crazy respect for Bill Belichick? Yeah? 562 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 5: Do I think he's an amazing coach? Yeah? But do 563 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 5: I think college football is a different animal? I do. 564 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 4: And when you're North Carolina and you're trying to compete 565 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 4: against the deep, deep deep pockets of LSU and Alabama 566 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 4: and Ohio State and some of these places, it's ridiculously hard. 567 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 3: That's a great point. I do want to ask. 568 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: It sounds like Belichick went to North Carolina with this 569 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: organizational bible and basically said, Hey, here's how I'm going 570 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 2: to run the show. 571 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: I need the keys to the kingdom. 572 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: I want to hire my staff, I want to hire 573 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: a GM and North Carolina. 574 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 3: I don't want to say they've been irrelevant. 575 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: That's a little harsh, but they have not been a 576 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: major factor in college football. 577 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 3: This is their chance. 578 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: I mean again, if I'm North Carolina's chancellor, I'm looking 579 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: at the president and being like ice, let's just hand 580 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: this thing over to Belichick for five years and see. 581 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: How it goes. You know, like we don't. I'm not 582 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 3: a football guy. 583 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: As a chancellor would probably say Belichick knows a lot. 584 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: I would say I kind of sort of trust him. 585 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: Now your question about recruiting, well, Dion Sanders apparently has 586 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 2: not made one home visit yet and he's. 587 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 3: Talking a lot. He ran off a lot of kids 588 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 3: from Colorado. 589 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: A lot of people bet against them this year, and 590 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: they were kind of a surprising team. I don't know 591 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: how closely you followed the Colorado but they they were 592 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: pretty good. They were kind of sniffing the playoff there 593 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: a little bit in late November. 594 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 3: But you know, is there a is there a model that. 595 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 5: Dion Belichick's embraced. 596 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 4: Dion has embraced nil, Dion has embraced social media. You 597 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 4: think Bill Belichick is going to do any of that 598 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 4: stuff that that uh Dion does. I mean, I think 599 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 4: Bill's going to be the opposite. He's gonna get pissed 600 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 4: off when these kids are on social media and on 601 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 4: Instagram and Twitter and they're doing all of that. I mean, 602 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 4: it's it's not uh, it's just not the NFL. And 603 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 4: and I mean, if you're if you're a college kid, 604 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 4: there's a couple of ways to make money. If you're 605 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 4: an incredible player and you're at a big time school, 606 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 4: you can ask for good money and you'll get paid 607 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 4: right now. But the other way to make money, like 608 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 4: as ni L agents and you're trying to go shop 609 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 4: the kid that you're working with, the different companies and 610 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 4: different brands and apparel companies. The only way your kid 611 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 4: is gonna get decent deals is to have a large 612 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 4: social media following. So the only way these kids are 613 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 4: gonna get large social media following is to be on 614 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,479 Speaker 4: there all the time. Like Travis Hunters, Dion embraces that 615 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 4: Bill Belichick he can't stand that. 616 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm hopeful. 617 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: I listen, I was a Jets fan. I never I 618 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: disliked the Patriots greatly. I like to believe you could 619 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: teach an old dog new tricks and I mean again, 620 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: Belichick's dating like what a twenty five year old. 621 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 3: You know, you wonder if. 622 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: He's kind of turning his Hey man, I'm old, is 623 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: my last shot? 624 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: Why not? Do you do you think that that could 625 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 3: be at play here? 626 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 4: Look, Bill Belichick's a smart dude. I mean, you don't 627 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 4: get to where he is because you're not smart. And 628 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 4: so I think he's smart enough to know that you 629 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 4: either adapt or you die. And I'm interested to see 630 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 4: how it goes. I mean, I really am. I mean, 631 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 4: you know, I think there could be a lot of 632 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 4: kids out there that say, Hey, the NFL is much 633 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 4: more important to me than NIL. So I want to 634 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,239 Speaker 4: go play with that guy, and I want him to 635 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 4: develop me, and I want to then go play in 636 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 4: the NFL. You could see a bunch of guys do that, 637 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 4: you know. But unfortunately, I think in today's world, if 638 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 4: you don't completely completely embrace Nil, it's gonna be hard 639 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 4: for you. 640 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 5: With these kids. 641 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 4: Every kid I talk to, which is a ton, it's 642 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 4: the very first you ask them, Hey, where do you 643 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 4: want to go to school? I want to go to Wisconsin. 644 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 4: What city is it in? Don't know who's the head coach? 645 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 4: Don't know what's the quarterback coach's name, don't know what 646 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 4: offense do they run? 647 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 5: Don't know? 648 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 4: But that's where I want to go. And do you 649 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 4: think they'll pay me? X? So that's all these kids 650 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 4: care about. They only care about that. 651 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 3: All right? We can wrap up two questions real quick. 652 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: Number one, Scatabow the awesome running back from ASU. I 653 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 2: know you have coaches and players that you rep in 654 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: the NFL. I'm just curious if you have any kind 655 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: of gauge on where you think he fits as a 656 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 2: draft pick. 657 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 3: Are we talking like a third rounder? 658 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: I know he hasn't run a forty or whatever, but man, 659 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: as a football player, you want that dude on your team? 660 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, as a football player. To me, I want him 661 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 4: on my team. I mean, what I love about him 662 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 4: is even now he plays special teams. Even now at 663 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 4: as he was running down on kick return kickoff, he 664 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 4: plays special teams. 665 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 5: I think you put him in the NFL. 666 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 4: I think you know he'll do anything, whether it's you know, 667 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 4: punt kickoff, punt return, kick return, He'll be a core eight. 668 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 5: Special teams guy for you. 669 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 4: He wants to play, But but I don't know, I mean, 670 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 4: is he a Danny Woodhead type, Like I think so. 671 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 3: Uh like six round or did he or was undraft. 672 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 5: Something like that. But I mean like, but I think 673 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 5: he's better. 674 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 4: But I also know in the NFL they care so 675 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 4: much about beauty pageant, they care so much about these numbers. 676 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 4: So ultimately, is Cam Skataboo talent wise and football player wise? 677 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 4: Is he worth a top sixty a top seventy pick? 678 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 4: I think football player wise, but I think when the 679 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 4: actual draft happens, I think he's a guy that's probably 680 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 4: gonna go late in the draft. 681 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's huge value in that guy late 682 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 2: in the draft. And finally, I don't know how much 683 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 2: you know you pay attention to these gambling lines, but 684 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: we have ASU as a bye, but we have the 685 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 2: hypothetical lines for who they would meet in the quarterfinal, 686 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 2: and Clemson would be a five and a half point 687 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: favorite over Arizona State, and then Texas would be a 688 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: thirteen and a half point favorite over ASU. 689 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 3: I'm curious as to your thoughts on those lines. 690 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 4: I mean interesting, I guess surprised me. 691 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 3: That's a Sunner. I don't think they're very good at all. 692 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't you know I'm not a huge fan 693 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 4: of Clemson right now. I think they're just average at best. 694 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 4: I don't trust them offensively. Texas different team. But I mean, look, 695 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 4: I literally do TV shows and radio shows all the time, 696 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 4: and I have been wrong about as U every week, 697 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 4: like every week, So I don't know. I mean, I 698 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 4: just think this team right now is on a special ride. 699 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 4: They're playing great. The coaches game plan and every week 700 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 4: scheme is great. I mean, they're just everything is clicking 701 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 4: for them. I hate the fact that Jordan Tyson's hurt 702 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 4: and not able to play for them because he was 703 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 4: special this year at the wide receiver spot. But my my, 704 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 4: my viewpoint honestly is I don't care what and I 705 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 4: know they got to buy so they're I guess respected now. 706 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 4: But if I was any team in the college football playoff, 707 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 4: I would hate to play ASU. 708 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 3: What why is that? 709 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 4: I when you watch them, the ball bounces their way 710 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 4: almost every time, situations bounce their way, every time, they 711 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 4: get calls all the time. I mean, so many things 712 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 4: for ASU have just gone their way this year, and 713 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 4: sometimes it's just like that, and it's really hard to 714 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 4: beat teams. 715 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 5: That are like that. I mean, they lost game this 716 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 5: year to Cincinnati. I believe it was. 717 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 4: They would have never lost that game if they had 718 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 4: Sam Levitt playing, He's their starting quarterback. He didn't play 719 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 4: that game. That was the difference in the game. Like, 720 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,959 Speaker 4: without a doubt, ASU has won this many games this year, 721 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 4: literally without a kicking game. They can't make a field 722 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 4: goal to save their life, and they're still winning games 723 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 4: like this. It's it's pretty incredible to me. 724 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 2: Well, I've never been you know, I didn't play college 725 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 2: football soccer. You were a three year starter at ASU, 726 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 2: actually three and a half maybe, But how do you 727 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,479 Speaker 2: think what's the game plan for Dillingham these next two 728 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 2: weeks being off? How do you do you put together 729 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 2: an entire game plan for Clemson and one for Texas 730 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 2: or not because that's a waste of time, or do 731 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 2: you just work on your stuff? How do you think 732 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 2: dillingham mantals is? 733 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 4: Well, they got to do a couple things first and foremost, 734 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 4: they got to recruit. They gotta manage it. They gotta recruit, 735 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 4: They got to manage a transfer portal. They got to 736 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 4: figure out some of their nil spend to prevent guys 737 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 4: from going in the portal. Then once you do all 738 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 4: of that. You're gonna spend as much time as you 739 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 4: can on getting your guys healthy, getting them rest, rest, 740 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 4: rest rest, getting them healthy, getting their legs fresh, just 741 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 4: getting them healthy. And then I think what you do 742 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 4: is you're going to spend at least a week, at 743 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 4: least three or four practices on just fundamentals fall handling 744 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 4: and fundamentals on offense ball handling, fundamentals, technique, fundamentals, technique, fundamentals, 745 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 4: technique in situations. And I think on the defensive side, 746 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 4: you're going to do the same. And I think they're 747 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 4: probably gonna go back the last few weeks and do 748 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 4: some self scout and try to find some corrections either 749 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 4: offensively or defensive. They want to make, you know, some 750 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 4: adjustments to pass protections or adjustments to route concepts or 751 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 4: run game schemes or whatever. And I don't think they're 752 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 4: probably going to get into any planning until they know, 753 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 4: you know, who they're gonna play, and then then they'll 754 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,479 Speaker 4: get into the heavy game planning then. But a lot 755 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 4: of it is just get healthy, get healthy, get healthy, 756 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 4: and then you know, if it was me, just a 757 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 4: ton of work on correcting and self scout. 758 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And Clubston seems like a long shot to be Texas. 759 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 2: I think Texas very very strong, but Asu, I just 760 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 2: love the moxie and the never quit and the coach 761 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 2: and the running. So much to like about this team. 762 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: Rudy Carpenter, thanks so much for taking the time. You know, 763 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 2: continued success in your endurance sports management and you know, 764 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 2: good luck to your sun Devils in the playoff. 765 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 5: All right, thanks for having me. 766 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 767 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 768 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 769 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: listen live. The only thing better than sitting on your 770 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: couch watching the games. He's making money while you do it. 771 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: Here's your best bet. 772 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 2: Great stuff from Rudy Carpenter, former Arizona State quarterback. I 773 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 2: will say my jaw if you watch on YouTube hit 774 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 2: the floor when he gave that price for the Utah. 775 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 3: Offensive lineman, I thought, you're talking on fifty k You 776 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,760 Speaker 3: know what are you six hundred? 777 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: What? 778 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 3: Excuse me? 779 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 2: That is big time money. Anyways, we'll quickly get to 780 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 2: the best bet. Rams Niners tonight from San Francisco should 781 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 2: be a good one. McVeigh has dominated this series. I'm 782 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 2: sorry McVeigh has been dominated in the series. Shanahan's won 783 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 2: ten McVeigh five head to head. Now, if you go 784 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 2: more recently, I believe it's ten to three. McVeigh did 785 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 2: win the NFC Championship game. 786 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 3: I was there. 787 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 2: McVeagh won earlier this season, but that was total luck. 788 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 2: San Francisco dominated that game before a late collapse, and 789 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 2: then you strip out like a week eighteen game where 790 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 2: it was backups playing backup quarterbacks and you're like, what 791 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 2: do we have here? Anyways, it looks like the line 792 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 2: honestly has just moved a little bit. Depending on where 793 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,720 Speaker 2: you're shopping, it's either Niners minus two and a half 794 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 2: or Niners minus three. It looks like no Bosa, it 795 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 2: looks like no Trent Williams. It's just it's gonna It's 796 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 2: tough for me to envision the Rams recreating magic that 797 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 2: they just pulled off against Buffalo. The Rams defense is 798 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 2: not particularly good. 799 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 3: We know that. Then again, San Francisco are they good? 800 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. 801 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 2: Their kicker stinks. Their special teams is an abomination. In 802 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: that Rams loss, they had a two huge miscues. Moody 803 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 2: missed field goal, they give up a huge punt return 804 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 2: late in the game that set up the Rams for 805 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 2: the game winning score. I don't have a cent on 806 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 2: this game, but if I did, it would be on 807 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 2: the Niners at two and a half, if I could 808 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 2: get it. If you're looking at props, I did see that. 809 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 2: George Kittle said, yeah, we had a closed door meeting 810 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 2: and this, that and the other, and we're not ready 811 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 2: to go out. And a guy like Kittles speaking up 812 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 2: as a leader, because remember I have a long said 813 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 2: that Deebo Samuel is the leader of the team. Meanwhile, 814 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 2: Deebo's out here angry, he's not getting the ball. Not 815 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 2: a great look for Deebo Samuel. I would look at 816 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 2: George Kittle props, first touchdown, RAMS, linebackers and coverage nah, 817 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 2: I don't love them. I would look at George. It'll 818 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 2: props nothing but in the game. If I do it, 819 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 2: I'll put it on IG later. But that's a lengthy 820 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 2: Thursday pod. 821 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 3: Talk to you tomorrow.