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<v Speaker 2>Welcome in What's Driving the Great Episode two forty one,

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<v Speaker 2>where we will try to talk about the WNBA without

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know, are you calling people out

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<v Speaker 2>their name, flipping out saying your people'll know you because

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<v Speaker 2>of me. We're gonna try to do that. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if it can be done at this point. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It seems like we have all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden found these sports topic that can't be discussed

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<v Speaker 2>without people losing their god dog minds. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>understand there are some racial and gender angles to it,

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<v Speaker 2>but ultimately this is just a sports story that is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty it's it when you, when you, when you get

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<v Speaker 2>through all the morass, it's not that complicated. Yet there

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<v Speaker 2>is a whole lot of projection of people's own stuff

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<v Speaker 2>being put on what's happening right now in the w NBA,

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<v Speaker 2>And my, oh my, oh my, is it causing land

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<v Speaker 2>minds for so many of my colleagues. Demons, how are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty good? Pretty good? Crazy weekend?

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy weekend. And I mean, and by the way, since

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend, I think the Indiana Fever have played three

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<v Speaker 2>more games. My god, who set this schedule? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand you want to get eyeballs on Caitlin Clark

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<v Speaker 2>and shout out. By the way, because according to the

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<v Speaker 2>folks that monitor this type of stuff, one and a

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<v Speaker 2>half million people watch that Fever sky game, which makes

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<v Speaker 2>it the fourth highest rated WNBA game in the last

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two years. So people are people are into this.

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<v Speaker 2>So I understand the WNBA saying we got to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>put Caitlin Clark on this world tour. But they had

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<v Speaker 2>played as of Sunday as many games in the previous

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<v Speaker 2>nine days as the Aces had played all season. Think

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<v Speaker 2>about that, they had played as many games in nine days.

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<v Speaker 2>The ace has played all season, so we are the

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<v Speaker 2>going to start with that. But first we must get

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<v Speaker 2>to what missed the cut. So here is what missed

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<v Speaker 2>the cut. The Stanley Cup final is set. More on

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<v Speaker 2>that in a moment. KD, We're going on his jumper

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<v Speaker 2>in the club. I just like Kevin Durant Moore and

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<v Speaker 2>more every day. And the Bills sign an Olympic wrestler

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<v Speaker 2>Demons much like last year. I have a crisp clean

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred dollars bill right here. This will become yours digitally,

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<v Speaker 2>at least via zel. If you can name the two

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<v Speaker 2>teams in the Stanley Cup final.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Stanley Cup is uh, that's that's hockey.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so we're gonna go with the Oilers, uh huh, and.

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<v Speaker 3>The Oilers against the what's it?

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<v Speaker 4>I honestly don't know another hockey teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Brewers, maybe it's not, it's not okay, you were thinking Bruins.

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<v Speaker 3>Brewers, and it's Ruins.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Ruins. So I was certain you were cheating because

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<v Speaker 2>Oilers is correct. But the fact that you weren't cheating

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<v Speaker 2>and got Oilers, it's Oilers, Panthers, the Rangers, it's fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, it's fifty. So I'm just gonna rip

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<v Speaker 2>this right in half and send you the So it's

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<v Speaker 2>fifty dollars, I'll give it to you. Good job by you.

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<v Speaker 2>All right to moan say, let's get right to uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the story that is sweeping the sports world, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a kind of hard foul. I mean, my god, people

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<v Speaker 2>everyone take them.

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<v Speaker 4>So Kennedy Carter of the Chicago Sky obviously foul the

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<v Speaker 4>crab on a Kaitlyn Clark. Yeah, and it's sparked a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of controversy. People were saying that our teammates didn't

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<v Speaker 4>back her up. They're complaining about the refie. Kaitlin Clark

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't seem to make a big deal about it. She

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<v Speaker 4>seems to be rolling with the punches quite literally. But

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<v Speaker 4>what are your thoughts? Why is everybody else making a

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<v Speaker 4>big deal on it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and now there's more to it, which is Angel

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<v Speaker 2>came out yesterday and said, you know, people aren't watching

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<v Speaker 2>just because of her. This all start in the National

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<v Speaker 2>Championship Game a year ago, and and there are so

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<v Speaker 2>many things happening here that I find wildly fascinating. So

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<v Speaker 2>what you have is two groups coming colliding and it

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<v Speaker 2>is creating this vortex of uncomfortable takes. So one group

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<v Speaker 2>is not familiar with how sports media covers sports and athletes.

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<v Speaker 2>So that group, for instance, yesterday saw Angel Rees gave

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<v Speaker 2>a quote where she seemingly ends the quote with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not just watching because of one person, They're watching

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<v Speaker 2>because of me too, and the quote end and it's like, wow, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's kind of you know, more me than

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<v Speaker 2>we What about your teammates or about the other rookies.

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<v Speaker 2>But then she went on immediately after that, if you

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<v Speaker 2>extend the quote another ten seconds to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of us and talk about the rookie

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<v Speaker 2>class as a whole, kind of Caitlin excluded, it would

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<v Speaker 2>appear that's fine, and folks are like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>look at how you're doing this, black woman misquoting her

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<v Speaker 2>doing this, And it's like, I listen, there is a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of race involved here, and we will get to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I promise it is not a woman thing or

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<v Speaker 2>a black thing. It is a sports media thing where

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<v Speaker 2>if you give the internet and sports aggregators a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of a quote that can be used against you, it

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<v Speaker 2>will be used against you that is unfair, It is

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<v Speaker 2>not great. It is why you have to be very

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<v Speaker 2>careful of the sports media aggregation site or accounts. But

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<v Speaker 2>that is not unique to aim. That is simply unique

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<v Speaker 2>to social media and how sports are covered. You then

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<v Speaker 2>have so there's this this these folks who don't really

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<v Speaker 2>know how the sports media sausage is made, that think

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<v Speaker 2>things are being wildly things are wildly unfair, which they

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<v Speaker 2>might be wildly unfair, but it's kind of just how

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<v Speaker 2>sports are covered in twenty twenty four. Then you have

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<v Speaker 2>a group of people that feel like, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>I should basically be able to have any opinion on

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<v Speaker 2>this topic, and you should thank me for having an

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<v Speaker 2>opinion on the topic, because I usually don't talk about

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<v Speaker 2>this topic. So the fact that I'm talking about it

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<v Speaker 2>means if you're criticizing me for talking about it, you're

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<v Speaker 2>in the wrong because I should just be getting credits

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<v Speaker 2>and plaudits and flowers for talking about it. And those

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<v Speaker 2>two groups are gonna rip each other upon and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a stand on the sideline and says, it just seems

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<v Speaker 2>to me like something we have seen before in sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again, there is a clear racial dynamic to this

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<v Speaker 2>that must be acknowledged. So I'll do that before we

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<v Speaker 2>even get to the part that I've seen in sports before,

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<v Speaker 2>which is there is a fraud racial history between the

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<v Speaker 2>WNBA players at large and the media and sponsors of

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<v Speaker 2>the league. That is, this is a overwhelmingly black league

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<v Speaker 2>that a wildly disproportionate amount of its most famous players

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<v Speaker 2>ever have been white players. What is also true, if

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<v Speaker 2>we are being honest, is if if you were to

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<v Speaker 2>say what percentage of the w is black? And got

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<v Speaker 2>that number, and then got and what percentage is white?

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<v Speaker 2>And then said, okay, of the twenty greatest players ever,

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<v Speaker 2>what percentage is black? What percentage is white? For reasons

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<v Speaker 2>that are I would imagine quite complex, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>some theories on but I don't really have time or

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<v Speaker 2>interest to get into them right now. There is a

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<v Speaker 2>disc compared to the league as a whole, there is

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<v Speaker 2>a disproportionate amount of the greatest players of all time

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<v Speaker 2>that are white women, and so there is a weird

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<v Speaker 2>So that is true. What also is true is amongst

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest players of all time, the white women have

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<v Speaker 2>seen his seemed historically to been marketed and pushed and

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<v Speaker 2>gotten more media love than the black women, which is

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<v Speaker 2>why Paige Becker's a few years ago at the SPI's

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, gave an amazing speech when she won Female

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<v Speaker 2>Athlete of the Year, when she essentially got up there

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<v Speaker 2>and said when she was playing at Yukon before she

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<v Speaker 2>tore up her knee, saying, hey, I appreciate all of this,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is a league that has been mostly built

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<v Speaker 2>by black women, and people that look like me consistently

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<v Speaker 2>get these awards, and we need to be aware of

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<v Speaker 2>that and try to maybe right those wrongs moving forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though Paige Beckers was deserving of the award and

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<v Speaker 2>one of the baddest college basketball players of her era

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<v Speaker 2>before she got hurt and this new group of players

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<v Speaker 2>came along. And by the way, Page is still one

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<v Speaker 2>of the great college basketball players. She played Caitlin in

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<v Speaker 2>the Final four. That was the push off game, the

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<v Speaker 2>bad foul call at the end of the game or

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<v Speaker 2>the illegal screen I think it was. And she'll, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and she'll continue to be awesome next year. So there

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<v Speaker 2>is all of that going on here, right, And that

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<v Speaker 2>is real. It is real that Caitlin being portrayed as

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<v Speaker 2>the conquering hero, an angel being portrayed as the villain.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year in college basketball, even though Angels team won,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of race to that you cannot

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<v Speaker 2>act like the LSU team overwhelmingly black Bayou Barbie Flage

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<v Speaker 2>who's a rapper, and then the mostly lily white Iowa

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<v Speaker 2>team that there wasn't racial dynamics of play. Of course

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<v Speaker 2>there were, and we can be adults and acknowledge it.

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<v Speaker 2>We could just like, by the way, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that Gabe Goodwin, our esteemed head of Blue Duck who

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<v Speaker 2>runs this podcast, I'll give you a cross sport, cross

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<v Speaker 2>gender example. Once upon a time, Peyton Hillis was on

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<v Speaker 2>the cover of Madden, and I bring up Gabe because

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was his fault for reasons I don't

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<v Speaker 2>totally remember. I think Sports Nation was involved, I think

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<v Speaker 2>was I think it was Gabe's fault. I blame Gabe

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<v Speaker 2>for this. But the reason Peyton hillis a slightly above

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<v Speaker 2>average running back for the Cleveland Browns on the cover

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<v Speaker 2>of Madden, it's because he's a white running back and

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<v Speaker 2>it was cool and it was an odd of the

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<v Speaker 2>And here is the other thing that I that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>because Demon's ay. So here's my theory on this. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that maybe this that I am. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>am kind of in the ultimate place of privilege when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to talking about these topics, because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel an additional pressure if I were black. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there is an understandably pressure And tell me if you

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<v Speaker 2>agree or disagree with me on this. I think there

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<v Speaker 2>is a pressure on black commentators that, man, there is

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<v Speaker 2>so much obvious racism in the world and in sports

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<v Speaker 2>and everywhere that when a racial topic comes up, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to be I don't want to seemingly be

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<v Speaker 2>adding to it or be on the wrong side of

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<v Speaker 2>it because I have an important responsibility or voice in

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<v Speaker 2>the space. Like does that I'm not explaining that exactly right?

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<v Speaker 2>Does that?

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<v Speaker 4>But does what I'm saying make that makes sense? So

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<v Speaker 4>you think that's stay in the middle kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I and I think I so. I so I

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<v Speaker 2>am in a unique spot because and then I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's also white commentators who are trying, you know, at

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<v Speaker 2>times trying to pander and at times just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously overtly on the wrong side of these issues. Black

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<v Speaker 2>commentators on the wrong side of these issues sometimes too.

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<v Speaker 2>I am just so confident that, eh, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>anyone's ever I think there are a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>at one point I will be unfairly accused of. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think being racially tone deaf, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>being bigoted when it comes to race or not seeing

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<v Speaker 2>the different levels of it. I'm just not worried about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I have my entire life's body of work

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<v Speaker 2>and track record, and I think I also don't have

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<v Speaker 2>that additional pressure, like internal pressure because I am a

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<v Speaker 2>white guy talking about this stuff. So I just I

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<v Speaker 2>recognize that's something of a place of privilege, but I

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of call it how I see it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I see a lot of race involved here, and people

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<v Speaker 2>seem to be stubbing their toe on that curb, which

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<v Speaker 2>is preventing them to getting to the obvious thing that

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<v Speaker 2>is happening amongst the players, which is this girl is

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<v Speaker 2>richer than all of us, more famous than all of us,

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<v Speaker 2>is getting more pub and attention than all of us,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's a white girl. And you know what, that's

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<v Speaker 2>bullsh We Our team beat her team in the National

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<v Speaker 2>Championship game, and she got is the one that became

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<v Speaker 2>super famous. With all that said, it's not because the

0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.080
<v Speaker 2>it is the other piece of it is she is

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<v Speaker 2>the best of all the rookies. She's the best of

0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.560
<v Speaker 2>the draft class. She's the best of the gods basketball players.

0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Last year she was the best. So it is when

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron James got drafted before even drafted him, when the

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<v Speaker 2>Calves won the do you know what I'm gonna talk

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<v Speaker 2>about here? Demon say you're left. So here's the thing.

0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:18.800
<v Speaker 2>The Calves win the draft lottery. They have Ricky Davis

0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:26.360
<v Speaker 2>and Darius Miles on the team. The yes and those

0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:30.040
<v Speaker 2>guys are like, yeah, man, Lebron can help ride our wave.

0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.080
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean, he can ride our bandwagon.

0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't think a high school kid's gonna

0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.840
<v Speaker 2>come in and make a big difference. But we'll see.

0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Those were his teammates, you know why, because he had

0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.200
<v Speaker 2>just gotten an eighty million dollars deal from Nike that

0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.000
<v Speaker 2>nobody was talking about the Calves. The Calves are like,

0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.960
<v Speaker 2>damn it, this is bs. We're better than him, were

0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.480
<v Speaker 2>older than him, were more established than him, and there

0:16:53.520 --> 0:17:00.200
<v Speaker 2>was legitimate jealousy from his own teammates. Now, fortunately we

0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.680
<v Speaker 2>didn't have to deal with the extra level of race

0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.439
<v Speaker 2>on this one because it was all black guys in

0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.879
<v Speaker 2>the discussion. I can only imagine that would have been

0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.320
<v Speaker 2>of all of the Lebron's stuff. Well, that's an interesting

0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:18.119
<v Speaker 2>nat Lebron's entire career as exact identical, except he's a

0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.119
<v Speaker 2>white dude. I wonder how so many things would be different,

0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:26.240
<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't there. That's that's not complicated. Rookie hazing

0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:32.680
<v Speaker 2>is not complicated, and hard thousand sports are not complicated. Now,

0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:39.399
<v Speaker 2>is it interesting that Aliah Boston didn't immediately come to

0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Caitlyn Clark's aid? Yeah, it is. That is interesting. It's noteworthy.

0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Is it interesting that Angel stood and applauded, Yeah, that's interesting.

0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:54.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't think she likes Caitlin guess what, she's not

0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:59.919
<v Speaker 2>supposed to. And this whole idea that everyone should be

0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:05.200
<v Speaker 2>like fetting Caitlin Clark the other competitors, like, oh, we're

0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.440
<v Speaker 2>all gonna make more money thanks to you, We're all

0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.840
<v Speaker 2>getting all these accouterment. There's that word again, thanks to you.

0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:17.840
<v Speaker 2>That is not how athletes work. We would never say

0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:23.119
<v Speaker 2>that about male athletes, never, And people might say, oh, well,

0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:24.560
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:25.439
<v Speaker 3>Don't you think like.

0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:29.840
<v Speaker 4>To like keep it within the parameters of the game. Though,

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<v Speaker 4>like the foul that the grow issued to Caitlin Clark

0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:34.920
<v Speaker 4>was just like, I mean.

0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:36.639
<v Speaker 3>I think you got a flare one for it or whatever,

0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:40.280
<v Speaker 3>but I think it's like a different level of hate,

0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:41.240
<v Speaker 3>is what I'm saying.

0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:50.840
<v Speaker 2>So here's the thing that was out of bounds, but

0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:56.400
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't wildly out of bounds. Flavorant one is what

0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:59.720
<v Speaker 2>you should get, not you know, more than a regular foul,

0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.240
<v Speaker 2>not enough to be thrown out of the game. Now,

0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.080
<v Speaker 2>do I think the refs missed the boat by not

0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:09.840
<v Speaker 2>issuing it immediately? Instead I'd be issued retroactively, sure, But

0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:14.359
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't like and going making the rounds yesterday? Was

0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Candace Parker what she dealt with as a rookie in

0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:22.439
<v Speaker 2>the big giant melee that happened between her team and

0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.879
<v Speaker 2>the Detroit team when she was a rookie. Guys, So

0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:29.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't look an Angel got fouled like

0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:33.600
<v Speaker 2>that last week and nobody gave h And I understand

0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Angel's frustration with this. I also And so this is

0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:43.000
<v Speaker 2>again where race must be acknowledged. The Chicago Tribune again,

0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:48.640
<v Speaker 2>the newspaper in Chicago. That's where the Chicago sky obviously

0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:55.440
<v Speaker 2>are from Angels team in the editorial, they about that foul.

0:19:56.320 --> 0:20:01.520
<v Speaker 2>They they say, and I quote the foul committed by

0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Chicago skyguard Kennedy Carter was egregious. Outside of a sporting contest,

0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:12.840
<v Speaker 2>it would have been seen as an assault. Pipe down, folks.

0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:17.840
<v Speaker 2>You know what's also an assault outside of a sporting contest,

0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:23.760
<v Speaker 2>A box out, a contest on a layup, shut up?

0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:28.479
<v Speaker 2>And that that is race, right. The only thing that

0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:32.399
<v Speaker 2>gets people all of a sudden flocking to we must

0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:38.400
<v Speaker 2>protect this woman is a white woman in distress, particularly

0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:41.280
<v Speaker 2>if it's a non white person putting her in distress.

0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:45.879
<v Speaker 2>That is race. And like, I just feel like we

0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:48.400
<v Speaker 2>should be able to hold multiple thoughts in our head

0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:52.800
<v Speaker 2>at once. And I do want to go back to

0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:59.760
<v Speaker 2>the basketball piece of it because I like Angel and

0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:03.399
<v Speaker 2>I have supported Angel. I you and I had a

0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:05.880
<v Speaker 2>whole thing on this show when she talked about what

0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:09.600
<v Speaker 2>she had been going through. I think I was in

0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:12.840
<v Speaker 2>comparison to some of the other members of sports media.

0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I think I saw that for what it was better

0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:22.320
<v Speaker 2>than most and I really like Angel. So this is

0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:27.960
<v Speaker 2>the say it again flip flopping. No, I'm not flip flopping.

0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not, but I am going to make.

0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:36.000
<v Speaker 3>You flopping on her stance, and I don't even know

0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:36.680
<v Speaker 3>that she's.

0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Listen. I think it's here's the thing on that before

0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:45.400
<v Speaker 2>I give what I was gonna say it. Folks say

0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:49.160
<v Speaker 2>they want to be a villain. Nobody does. The only

0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:53.680
<v Speaker 2>person in the last decade in sports that I've seen

0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:57.080
<v Speaker 2>that truly wants to be the villain. Do you know

0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:03.320
<v Speaker 2>who I'm gonna say to No, No, because he plays

0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:06.080
<v Speaker 2>the victim. He plays. He says he wants to be

0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:08.640
<v Speaker 2>the villain. But then he's like, you guys are trying

0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:11.120
<v Speaker 2>to make it so I'm broken when I'm older. No,

0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Beverly plays the victim too. Dylan Brooks plays the victim

0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:19.320
<v Speaker 2>all these guys. Beverly's like, you don't know what they

0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:21.720
<v Speaker 2>said to me. I shouldn't have thrown the ball, but

0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:23.760
<v Speaker 2>you don't know what they said. Dylan Brooks has like,

0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:25.480
<v Speaker 2>call me Dylan the villain. Then he's like, it's a

0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:29.480
<v Speaker 2>media construct. There is only one person who actually wants

0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:33.760
<v Speaker 2>to be the villain. Luca. Luca actually wants to be

0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:37.080
<v Speaker 2>the villain. He wants to go in your building, tell

0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:40.879
<v Speaker 2>you to go bleep yourself, swagger, do all of it.

0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Everyone else wants to pick and choose when they're the villain, right,

0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:48.680
<v Speaker 2>and it's hard. Lebron tried it for a whole year

0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:52.240
<v Speaker 2>and then was like, that was miserable. I don't want

0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:56.080
<v Speaker 2>to do that anymore. Okay, So that's not what I

0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:57.720
<v Speaker 2>was gonna say. What I was gonna say is this

0:22:58.680 --> 0:22:59.400
<v Speaker 2>my advice.

0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:02.320
<v Speaker 3>Really does not look at social media at all with

0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:04.720
<v Speaker 3>that good Oh yeah.

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I means too, he's too much you know, hookahs smoking

0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:13.280
<v Speaker 2>his eyes. Yeh ah. Here's my vice, Angel Reese. On

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:20.320
<v Speaker 2>the basketball court, if you want there to be less

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:25.240
<v Speaker 2>attention on Caitlin and more on you, you need to

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 2>play better. Sorry, it's gotta be better. There is not

0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:36.879
<v Speaker 2>there is. Angel Reese was an outstanding championship level college

0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:40.199
<v Speaker 2>basketball player who went seventh in the w NBA Draft.

0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 2>About where she should have gone. Maybe at this point

0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:44.560
<v Speaker 2>you can say she should have gone fourth or fifth.

0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 2>She is having, in my opinion, the second best rookie season.

0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Some would say Cameron Brinks having the second best rookie season,

0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:58.920
<v Speaker 2>second or third. But there is a wide gap between

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:03.000
<v Speaker 2>what she's doing and what Caitlyn's doing, just like there

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:06.119
<v Speaker 2>is a wide gap between what she what Caitlyn is

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:07.359
<v Speaker 2>doing and every other.

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:11.159
<v Speaker 3>Rookie, Yeah, nice, five more points on more games.

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Well so, right so, And Caitlin's biggest weakness right now

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:21.040
<v Speaker 2>is the turnovers are bad. But that was also a

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:23.200
<v Speaker 2>problem in college, so I think that's just gonna be

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 2>a problem. But Caitlyn right now, it's like, oh, she's

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:31.480
<v Speaker 2>shooting thirty five percent from the field and thirty percent

0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:36.120
<v Speaker 2>from three Well, angels forward shooting thirty five percent from

0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 2>the field, and so she is going through rookie struggles

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:44.480
<v Speaker 2>just like Caitlyn is. The Caitlin's numbers this year fifteen

0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:48.160
<v Speaker 2>and a half points, five rebounds, six assists on thirty

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 2>five thirty splits. Angel who's been the second best rookie

0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 2>is ten and a half points per game, nine rebounds,

0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:59.560
<v Speaker 2>two assists on thirty five percent from the field. Cameron

0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Brank who's been, you know, the second or third best rookie,

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 2>nine points, five rebounds to assist on forty seven percent

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:11.680
<v Speaker 2>from the field and really good defense. And then Riquia

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:17.159
<v Speaker 2>Jackson ten ten points per game, three rebounds, no assists

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:21.159
<v Speaker 2>because she's a big on forty nine percent from the field.

0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Thing is this, if folks want to make the argument

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:34.200
<v Speaker 2>that Caitlin Clark is getting undue attention. Somebody in her

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.639
<v Speaker 2>rookie class got to go out there and out player

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:41.879
<v Speaker 2>and that hadn't happened, just hadn't. And that is again,

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:47.639
<v Speaker 2>that's a sports conversation. And I'm not gonna act like

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:52.399
<v Speaker 2>I had this kind I set everything exactly perfectly here

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 2>and that And also, by the way, we should wait

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 2>and see how Camilla Cardosa ends up looking. She's only

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:03.439
<v Speaker 2>one game after missing the beginning of the season. Uh.

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:06.080
<v Speaker 2>In our first game she played really well eleven and

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 2>six on five to seven from the field, So we'll

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 2>see how, you know, how she does. But the fact

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 2>the matter is, guys, there is a what is so

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 2>cool about this is we have another sport now that

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:32.680
<v Speaker 2>enough people are following that it is a national conversation.

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 2>And I implore folks who have been following the WNBA

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 2>for years, don't be WNBA hipsters. Please don't be the

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:51.919
<v Speaker 2>fan of the band that loved it before it, you know,

0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:57.199
<v Speaker 2>was going on worldwide tours. And then she towards the

0:26:57.320 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 2>new fans and gate keyp and be like, well, if

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:04.879
<v Speaker 2>you weren't here shooting with me in the gym, guys.

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 2>It's better the sport growing is better for everyone. Okay,

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:17.919
<v Speaker 2>I do ask that. I also ask the Johnny Cume latelies,

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:22.160
<v Speaker 2>and I think I am a cross between the two groups.

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 2>I think I obviously watched and followed more WNBA than

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 2>the average person, but that's because I'm in sports for

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 2>a living. But I also was not you know, I

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:38.640
<v Speaker 2>knew enough about the WNBA that last year I placed

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 2>a very significant bet before the season started on the

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Aces to win the title, and I placed a very

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 2>small bet on the Aces to go undefeated for the season,

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:53.479
<v Speaker 2>but not enough to act like I am. You know

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 2>that I'm a WNBA League Pass subscriber, and I am

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 2>I've never talked about it on the TV show side

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 2>from maybe a segment or two and seven years until

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 2>this rookie class headlined by Caitlin. So I'm a bit

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 2>of both, right, But I beg just like I don't

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:15.119
<v Speaker 2>want the folks who were always fans to gatekeep, I

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 2>would like the folks who are new to the party

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 2>to not act as if A they are experts on

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 2>everything WNBA related, and B please do not act like

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 2>everyone needs to give us credit because we arrived at

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 2>the party there is this weird thing going on where

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 2>it is like, well, now that I am talking about

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 2>your sport, I am doing you a favor, and therefore

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 2>I should be above criticism for my takes on it.

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Na man, Just like I said when when Diana Tarazi

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 2>during the NCAA tournament, I thought had I thought had

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 2>a bad take on Caitlin and the WNBA. By the way,

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:17.959
<v Speaker 2>Diana looks like she might have been more right than

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 2>I was on that, and what I said was a

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 2>bad take. It looks like maybe I was wrong and

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 2>she was right. It is in battle, and I said,

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 2>and I disagreed with Diana's take, And it felt like

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people disagreed with it, but were almost

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 2>afraid to say they disagreed with it the way they

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 2>would if it were Kendrick Perkins discussing Victor winbin Yama.

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, man, that everybody's everybody's grown here. Everybody

0:29:56.920 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 2>can find for themselves to a degree. We don't need

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 2>to be overly protective of Caitlyn Clark. She's a badass,

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 2>fierce competitor that also, despite a grueling schedule, seemingly not

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 2>a very good team and massive scrutiny is handling herself. Fine,

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I say, seemingly not a very good team, Tom take

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 2>it's the number one pick them back to back years

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 2>or two and nine because like you said, But let me,

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 2>let me give one other prediction that I know is

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 2>gonna end up being a classic Category two. Caitlyn Clark

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 2>from this moment forward is gonna have Banana's numbers. So

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 2>here's why. So they have had multiple back to backs.

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 2>They have played eleven games. No other team's played more

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 2>than nine. The Aces have played six. Because of that,

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the way here, they don't have a

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 2>single back to back. They have massive So they play

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 2>on the seventh, the tenth, the thirteenth, the sixteenth, the nineteenth,

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty first, twenty third, twenty seventh, thirtieth, second, sixth, tenth, twelfth, fourteenth, seventeenth,

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 2>then a month off because of the Olympics, an Olympic

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 2>team that we don't know if Caitlin Clerk's gonna make

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 2>or not, and then again in September and August, a

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 2>relatively light schedule compared to the field because they already

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 2>had their tough part, so they're gonna have more rest.

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 2>They also have already played. You play the Liberty four times,

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 2>They've played them three already. The Liberty might be the

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 2>second best team in the league. You play Connecticut four times,

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 2>They've played them twice already. Connecticut's a top three team

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 2>in the league. So the schedule is gonna get softer.

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 2>She's got her legs underneath her, she's gonna have more rest,

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>and she's gonna ball out. And by the way, I

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 2>hope the rest of the rookie class does as well.

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm rooting for all these girls, but we've gotta be

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 2>able to acknowledge. Of course, there is a racial dynamic here.

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Of course, there is a very typical jealousy dynamic here

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 2>that would exist no matter the races, but is heightened

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 2>because of the racial dynamics here. And of course there

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 2>is just some sports competitiveness here, which is Angel Reese

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 2>thinks she's better. She beat her in the National Championship

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 2>than Caitlin got her get back the next year but

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 2>didn't win the National championship. And Angel they are going

0:32:56.440 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 2>to be rivals, and that is great for the sport.

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 2>All right? Did I manage to do that without saying

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 2>I made anyone famous or calling anyone a bitch I

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 2>think I did? Wow? Did that get me a medal

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:20.719
<v Speaker 2>for it? Quick break? Right back? What's right? All right?

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Welcome back in What's Right with Nick? Right? All right?

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 2>And after a nice half hour on the WNBA and

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 2>racial and gender dynamics in America and a little slight

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 2>media criticism, I suppose let's get right to the NBA Finals.

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 2>De Monse, go ahead.

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, we are just a few days away from

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 4>your large Slovenian son being able to prove prove you correct,

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 4>back up all those words you've been speaking for the

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 4>last couple of weeks. It's weird because Boston's at minus

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.239
<v Speaker 4>two twenty this is not very weird, and Dallas at

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 4>plus twenty five to win the series.

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Do you think Vegas has that wrong?

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 4>You know, considering the path that the Mavericks had to

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 4>take to get there and the Boston Celtics.

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I do. I do think Vegas has this wrong.

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 2>This would be the third biggest finals upset since the merger.

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 2>The biggest upset famously four Pistons over the Lakers. The

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 2>second biggest upset a weird one, the nineteen Raptors over

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 2>the Warriors. But Katie popped his achilles Clay blew out

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 2>his knee, so that one, I don't want to say,

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 2>you can throw it out, but that's wasn't a traditional upset,

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, like the unless you think

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 2>the Raptors were gonna beat the full strength Warriors. And

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 2>then this fact of the matter is this, since the

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 2>trade deadline, the MAVs have had the best events in basketball,

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 2>and with this starting lineup, they have played this year

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 2>on a sixty five win pace, which is what the

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 2>Celtics played all year, a sixty four to sixty five

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 2>win pace. So I do think that this series is

0:34:56.120 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 2>relatively even. And if it's relatively even and one team

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 2>has an all time legendary player and the other team

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 2>has Jason Tatum, then I'm gonna go with the team.

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 3>Don't I think this series is relatively even? Or did

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 3>you say it is?

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I said, I do. I do think the series is.

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 2>I do think the series is relatively even. I think

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 2>their regular season records would say it's not sixty four

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 2>wins versus fifty wins. But I don't look at the

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 2>MAVs as that team. I look at the MAVs as

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:32.360
<v Speaker 2>the team they were once they got Gafford and PJ

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 2>and once Lively you know what I mean, got more

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:39.760
<v Speaker 2>reps in his rookie season. So I just and early

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 2>in the season they dealt without having Kyrie. I just

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 2>really like the MAVs in this spot and maybe all

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:51.800
<v Speaker 2>end up being wrong and everyone people are now. Yesterday

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 2>the internet got mad at Zach Lowe for saying I

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:59.320
<v Speaker 2>thought something obvious, which is Jason Tatum is somewhere between

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 2>the six to seventh eighth the best player in basketball.

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 2>That is not an indictment, It is just the truth

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:11.879
<v Speaker 2>that now, can you win the title with that? Yeah?

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 2>Is it super rare? Yes? So like I now, does

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:24.320
<v Speaker 2>the best player always win? No? If that were the case,

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Lebron be ten for ten in the finals, So obviously, Well,

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a little you know, that doesn't always

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 2>work with team sports, but it does work more often

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 2>than not. In the NBA, however, I typically if the

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 2>other teams got demonstrably and clearly the best player, you

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 2>need to have massive team advantage. And Vegas thinks the

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Celtics do. I do not. I think that there is

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:04.040
<v Speaker 2>a huge gap between Luca and Tatum. I think there is,

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 2>right now a minimal gap between Brown and Kyrie. Now,

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 2>the next three best players in the series are Celtics

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Chris STAPs, Drew and Derek White, But the next three

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:22.640
<v Speaker 2>best players after that are MAVs in PJ. Gafford and

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:28.799
<v Speaker 2>uh Lively. I'm leaving somebody out the Oh yeah, Derek

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Jones Junior could be on there, but the that's right,

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 2>and so the and then you add to it what

0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 2>to me is a pretty clear and maybe Celtics fans

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 2>disagree with me here, coaching advantage for the Mavericks and

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:50.839
<v Speaker 2>the fact that the Celtics have been hit or miss

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 2>at home while the MAVs have been absolute killers on

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:58.240
<v Speaker 2>the road. And I like the MAVs in this spot

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 2>and so well, I think plus one eighty five is crazy.

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 2>I also think it's very on the board Boston wins

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Game one, which is why I might wait to bet

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 2>the series, because if it's plus one eighty five right now,

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:18.320
<v Speaker 2>it'll be like plus three hundred or plus two sixty

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 2>after Boston wins Game one if they win Game one.

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:22.879
<v Speaker 2>But I also might just pull the trigger on bet

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 2>it beforehand. But I'm going to roll with this being

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Luca's moment and that I don't think the Boston crowd

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 2>is going to get to Kyrie, but I do think

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 2>the Boston crowd is going to get Luca going. I

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:51.799
<v Speaker 2>think the Boston crowd going after Luca, is going after

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:57.240
<v Speaker 2>Kyrie is going to be good for Luca. I am curious, Demons, however,

0:38:57.640 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 2>your feelings going into this finals versus two years ago

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 2>when your Celtics were playing the Warriors. And I have

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 2>other questions Celtics related for you, but your feelings going

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 2>into the finals since the Celtics are your team.

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 4>A lot more comfortable with them going into the into

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:18.839
<v Speaker 4>the series against the Mavericks. This is the one team

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 4>out of the West, like I would have been more

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 4>afraid to play Minnesota, and the Mavericks are uh. I

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 4>mean they're coming off they had to play the Timberwolves,

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:29.240
<v Speaker 4>who openly came out and said that they were tired.

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Celtics aren't tired. Celtics are deeper.

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 4>I think that I think that the Celtics can get

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 4>this done in six.

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 3>Just way too deep.

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 4>Kyrie and Kyrie and Luca I don't think are going

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:44.680
<v Speaker 4>to be enough to win in a seven game series.

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 3>I think it's just too much.

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.479
<v Speaker 4>I think that the hookah and the cigarettes will catch

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 4>up to Luca something. And this is your furthest lucas

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:55.360
<v Speaker 4>ever been obviously, right, Yep.

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he made the conference finals two years ago. But

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 2>this is for everyone on the as this except for Kyrie,

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:06.400
<v Speaker 2>this is their first finals. Meanwhile, for everyone on the

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:10.919
<v Speaker 2>Celtics except for Chris STAPs, they've been here before, right, right,

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 2>And so I do think that plays too in your

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 2>favor to a degree. Actually I don't was out. I

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 2>don't think Al Horford's been here before, but he's played

0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 2>in a million playoff games because he was with the

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Celtics and then left and then came. Oh no, he

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 2>was there too, he was worsh You're right, because he

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:37.799
<v Speaker 2>was there, then left to Philly, then came back when

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 2>they played for the season. So yeah, everyone but Chris

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:43.920
<v Speaker 2>STAPs essentially has been there. Drew hasn't been there with Boston,

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 2>but he's been there with Milwaukee obviously. Uh, here's the

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 2>gosh it. I was gonna ask you another question.

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:54.839
<v Speaker 3>Another question, but real quickly.

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 2>You you mentioned Luke and Kyrie won't be enough. One

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 2>thing that would be a little concerning for me for

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 2>boss if I'm Boston. As this, the MAVs did beat

0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:10.719
<v Speaker 2>the Thunder with Kyrie averaging sixteen points per game. So

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 2>they beat the number one seed in the West in

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 2>six games and could have won that thing in five

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 2>and Kyrie was, you know, sixteen points a game in

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 2>that series. Now do they need Luca to be brilliant? Obviously,

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 2>but Luca is looking healthier as the playoffs go on.

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:34.799
<v Speaker 2>And that is my biggest prediction of this series is

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 2>you demons are gonna leave midway through this series. Have

0:41:39.200 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 2>a visceral dislike for Luca from the whining and the

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:47.879
<v Speaker 2>preening and the screaming and.

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 4>On alert for his he Christ he cries, Yeah, yeah.

0:41:56.680 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 2>He does after a after getting calls to not just

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.839
<v Speaker 2>after not getting calls. He gets angry when he gets calls,

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 2>when he doesn't get calls, the whole nine. What's your

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 2>other question? Go ahead?

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 4>Uh, do you think that Luca will leave this series

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:13.399
<v Speaker 4>the villain that he wants to be or you think

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 4>he wants to be?

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's a bab I like that. That's Luca's bane

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 2>with a hookah. Yeah. I mean I think he is.

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 2>I think he is going to be this, I mean

0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:30.279
<v Speaker 2>absolutely hated by the Celtic crowd and I can't wait

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 2>for it. What's your next follow up?

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 3>If you think that Boston will win the finals?

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:36.399
<v Speaker 4>Is it a smart is a smart bet to bet

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 4>Tatum at minus one fifteen or Brown at plus six

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:40.400
<v Speaker 4>fifty for finals?

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:40.760
<v Speaker 3>MVP?

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh, listen if those odds, I like Brown way way

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 2>way better. Now, I am curious Who's who's going to

0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 2>have I get that, go ahead, go.

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 3>No, I get that.

0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:58.319
<v Speaker 4>I understand that. I was just like with with I

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:00.640
<v Speaker 4>think if the if the Celtics win the finals, it

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 4>won't be because Jalen Brown was the best player.

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, he just won conference finals MVP. Now, maybe listen,

0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:09.759
<v Speaker 2>you might be right.

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 4>But I also don't know what's going on with Jason Tatum,

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:13.719
<v Speaker 4>but I think he's gonna turn it on at some point.

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, and he was good in the conference finals, to

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 2>be clear, It just Jalen Brown hit the shot that

0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 2>forced overtime in Game one, and their numbers were christ

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 2>and he was more efficient. I am curious, though, who's

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:29.959
<v Speaker 2>go We'll talk about this more on Thursday. Who's gonna

0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 2>be Luca's primary defender because Drew is not big enough.

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna have to be Tatum or Brown and whomever

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:39.319
<v Speaker 2>it is that is going to take a lot out

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 2>of them energy wise on the offensive end. Now, he'll

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 2>probably hunt you know, switches and stuff anyway, but that'll

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:49.359
<v Speaker 2>be interesting to see. I also think, you know, we'll

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 2>talk about him more on Thursday. How Kristaps is gonna

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:54.440
<v Speaker 2>look when he comes back is one of the biggest

0:43:54.480 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 2>storylines of this series. All right, let's move on because

0:43:57.239 --> 0:43:59.399
<v Speaker 2>we have Thursday. We'll do like an all finals show

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:00.799
<v Speaker 2>on Thursday. Go ahead.

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 3>So Justin Jefferson just signed a record one hundred and

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:05.400
<v Speaker 3>forty million.

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:08.800
<v Speaker 4>Dollar extension with Minnesota. So that's very similar to Jordan

0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 4>Poole money. So obviously Justin Jefferson he's he's the best

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:15.319
<v Speaker 4>wide receiver in the league. So I might say, so

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 4>you got to give him that money. But if for you,

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:20.239
<v Speaker 4>isn't it great to have, like, you know, a team

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:22.080
<v Speaker 4>like the Chiefs who doesn't have to go out there

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 4>and spend all that money for a wide receiver? Is what?

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? But they nobody here's the thing, nobody else has Mahomes.

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 2>So I understand, and Justin Jefferson deserves the money. But

0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I do think that we and I've talked about it

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 2>on this pod before and I will continue to We

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 2>are going to reach something of a market correction. College

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 2>football keeps producing ready to go wide receivers and they

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:53.800
<v Speaker 2>are producing less ready to go offensive and defensive linemen.

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 2>So I think you are going to see maybe not

0:44:57.200 --> 0:45:01.719
<v Speaker 2>for Justin Jefferson caliber players, but for that next caliber

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver, the really good guy. But isn't you know,

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:10.799
<v Speaker 2>top five in the league. Smart teams say we can

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 2>get eighty five percent of that production by a guy

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:17.920
<v Speaker 2>in the draft for ten percent of the salary. We're

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:21.400
<v Speaker 2>just not paying. We are not. The Chiefs have basically

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 2>said we're gonna draft and develop wide receivers in corners

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:28.399
<v Speaker 2>because that's what college football is producing, and we are

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 2>going to pay our offensive and defensive lineman along with

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 2>the quarterback. Wild's had an interesting thought, which was, under

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 2>the current salary cap structure, can you basically just have

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 2>fifty million dollars for your quarterback and your wide receiver

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 2>one and split it up as you see fit. So

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 2>like for the Vikings, you know you have Justin Jefferson

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 2>on the rookie deal, I'm sorry, on the record setting deal.

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:02.439
<v Speaker 2>And then a rookie quarterback for the Dolphins. Right now,

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 2>you have Tyreek and Waddle on these crazy deals, but

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 2>they haven't paid to a yet. The Cowboys have Dak

0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:13.719
<v Speaker 2>on this huge deal waiting to pay CD. Maybe when

0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:16.200
<v Speaker 2>they pay CD, do they then not bring back Dak.

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 2>The Bills, Josh Allen makes a ton of money. They

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 2>trade Stefan Digs the Chiefs. All the money goes to Mahomes,

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:25.800
<v Speaker 2>they draft receivers. It is an interesting thought by Wilde

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:29.840
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't really I hadn't really considered on that level,

0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 2>but I now the Eagles are trying to do everything.

0:46:33.400 --> 0:46:37.399
<v Speaker 2>Pay Davante, pay aj and pay Jailen Hurts, but they're

0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:40.360
<v Speaker 2>kind of borrowing a lot from the future. The Niners.

0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 2>You paid Debo, you seem hesiten to pay Ayuk and

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Purdy makes nothing, and so I get why the Vikings

0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 2>would do it, But I also think some of these

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:52.440
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver contracts are not gonna age. Well, all right,

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 2>let's play a quick game of this or that.

0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:57.600
<v Speaker 4>Uh, yes, it's time for this or that. We got

0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 4>Bears hard Knocks, huge pool of them. Caleb Williams and

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:03.799
<v Speaker 4>the Bears will be featured on Hard Knocks this year.

0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 4>The NFL putting Caleb in the spotlight right away is

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:09.399
<v Speaker 4>genius or too soon?

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I think it's genius. I think he's charismatic. I

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 2>think he'll be excellent. I think that he will become

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 2>instantaneously another star of the league. So I think I

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 2>love it. I think it's great. Next.

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:27.239
<v Speaker 4>No better team for that right New York's After the

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:30.400
<v Speaker 4>Rangers were eliminated. New York men's sports teams have now

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 4>gone to combined one hundred seasons without a championship. But

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:36.640
<v Speaker 4>you've got a nice graphic up there for those questioning

0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:37.160
<v Speaker 4>on YouTube.

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:39.399
<v Speaker 2>But that's good.

0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 4>But they still have Jalen Brunson. New York Sports is

0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 4>hopeless or hopeful?

0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I think it's hopeful because the Knicks just had

0:47:48.600 --> 0:47:51.880
<v Speaker 2>their best season in my opinion, in a quarter century.

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:54.320
<v Speaker 2>The Rangers, it seems like we're good in The Yankees

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:57.400
<v Speaker 2>might win the World Series this year, so I think hopeful. Next.

0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 4>Dallas is having a great year for sports. The Rangers

0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:04.800
<v Speaker 4>won the World Series, the Stars made the Conference finals

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 4>in the NHL, and the MAVs are in the NBA Finals.

0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 4>Uh So what about Dallas? Cowboys will join the party

0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 4>soon or never?

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not gonna be soon. I don't want to

0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:21.280
<v Speaker 2>say never, but it would be later rather than soon.

0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:27.160
<v Speaker 2>The Cowboys are in the midst of you know, they

0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of took their shot with the way decks.

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 3>Kind of feel like.

0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Never's not that. So then I guess that soon. So

0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:43.239
<v Speaker 2>the I guess, I'll say, I guess, I'll say soon. No,

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:45.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. I don't have to pick one. The answer

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:48.120
<v Speaker 2>is later. It's there there is. The answer is not never,

0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 2>but it's also not soon.

0:48:49.280 --> 0:48:50.400
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I want to be clipped.

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:54.080
<v Speaker 4>Yesay on TV, you said your top five quarterbacks in

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:57.400
<v Speaker 4>the NFL A Mahomes, Alan, Burrow, and Stroud.

0:48:57.680 --> 0:48:59.160
<v Speaker 3>With the fifth spot up in the air.

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:03.719
<v Speaker 4>Nick's fifth best quarterback is Lamar Jackson or Justin Herbert

0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:05.880
<v Speaker 4>is none of the above.

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 2>I'd probably go kale it. But if you guys don't

0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:12.160
<v Speaker 2>want me to put a rookie, I'll say Stafford. Uh

0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 2>and so. And I know people think I'm being disrespectful

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:16.640
<v Speaker 2>to Lamar. I'm just being honest.

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:21.440
<v Speaker 4>Sorry, And the game you're not picking either, then you

0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:23.160
<v Speaker 4>just went outside of this or that.

0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:24.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm sorry you guys.

0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:24.839
<v Speaker 3>Last one.

0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Put Justin Herbert on there instead of Matt Stafford. That's

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:32.000
<v Speaker 2>not my fault. Put a better name, or put Trevor

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:32.640
<v Speaker 2>all right.

0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 4>Next, Syricus alumni Crmelo Anthony is joining the ownership group

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:41.759
<v Speaker 4>for an expansion of the basketball team in Australia. You

0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:43.359
<v Speaker 4>said it as part of a journey to one day

0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 4>becoming an NBA owner. Could your fates be intertwined? Nick

0:49:47.640 --> 0:49:50.480
<v Speaker 4>will be an Avid fan or a general manager?

0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Avid fan, I got. I had an opportunity to become

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:04.480
<v Speaker 2>a part of owner ship group of lower level Italian

0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 2>basketball team that I could have kind of been part

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:12.080
<v Speaker 2>of the general manager front office, you know, kind of

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:14.799
<v Speaker 2>group four. I don't know if I told you about

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:17.879
<v Speaker 2>this to months it's like eighteen months ago, but I

0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:20.319
<v Speaker 2>didn't have and I thought I would want to do it,

0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:21.799
<v Speaker 2>but then I thought about it. I didn't have the

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:25.840
<v Speaker 2>time to like, actually, you know what I mean, I'm

0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:29.759
<v Speaker 2>not gonna be scouting like lower level international prospects. I

0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:35.960
<v Speaker 2>just wasn't and so I, uh, maybe in another life, yeah,

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:38.239
<v Speaker 2>it was cool and I probably should have followed up

0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:42.400
<v Speaker 2>on it more than I did, but I didn't. And

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:45.160
<v Speaker 2>in another life maybe, but right now I just just

0:50:45.280 --> 0:50:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Avid fan, all right? Next?

0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:50.000
<v Speaker 4>All right, So it took Jason kelce less than three

0:50:50.000 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 4>months in retirement to start picking fights. And his first

0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:58.000
<v Speaker 4>enemy is big soap, so he's got a thing against.

0:50:58.080 --> 0:51:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jason Kelsey wrote, all of you have been fed

0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:05.200
<v Speaker 2>diabolical lies. Washing every crevice of your bodies and hair

0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:09.360
<v Speaker 2>all the same all the time is somehow better or healthier.

0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Any dermatologists not in bed with big soap will agree

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:17.160
<v Speaker 2>hot spots are all that's necessary and actually leads to cleaner,

0:51:17.200 --> 0:51:21.759
<v Speaker 2>healthier skin. This is really a I'm gonna go ahead

0:51:21.760 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 2>and say we started the show talking race, we might

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:26.919
<v Speaker 2>end the show talking race. This is also a too

0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Americas thing. This is there are real There is a

0:51:31.480 --> 0:51:41.680
<v Speaker 2>real racial dichotomy about how often you need to you know,

0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 2>scrub like your calves versus whether or not when you're

0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:50.239
<v Speaker 2>in the shower, as Jason Kelcey put it, you wash

0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:52.880
<v Speaker 2>hotspots and just kind of let soap and water and

0:51:52.920 --> 0:51:54.280
<v Speaker 2>gravity take care of the rest.

0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 4>It is go ahead, demanse So the Jason Kelcey are

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:02.000
<v Speaker 4>big so was that this or that? But that's not

0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:05.040
<v Speaker 4>something that you want to hear from a guy like Jason.

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:11.759
<v Speaker 2>Kelsey in a big football player. Listen, he's not saying

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:15.440
<v Speaker 2>he's not showering. What he's saying is is he is

0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:21.839
<v Speaker 2>washing directly his underarms and his you know, genitals, and

0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:24.879
<v Speaker 2>that the rest of it, ah, soap and water will

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:28.080
<v Speaker 2>take care of itself. And what I'm telling you is,

0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:31.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't think Jason Kelcey is the only person out

0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:34.480
<v Speaker 2>there with that opinion. I do think that happens to

0:52:34.560 --> 0:52:37.600
<v Speaker 2>be more of an opinion held in the white community

0:52:37.680 --> 0:52:41.400
<v Speaker 2>than the non white community. I also think that Jason

0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Kelcey one of the there are certain things like there's

0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:48.680
<v Speaker 2>also like a real racial division about do you just

0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:52.520
<v Speaker 2>use the bar of soap to clean yourself or do

0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:55.480
<v Speaker 2>you use a washcloth or washt owl. There's a lot

0:52:55.520 --> 0:52:58.920
<v Speaker 2>of things that again we don't talk about it, Like

0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking about how I shower, how I bathe

0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:07.799
<v Speaker 2>because I understand better than Jason Kelcey. There's certain things

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:10.799
<v Speaker 2>better just keep to yourself. It's just no wins in this.

0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:15.640
<v Speaker 2>There's just no there's no upside in this. And but

0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:20.480
<v Speaker 2>it was. I think Jason Kelsey has taken a lot

0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:23.360
<v Speaker 2>of arrows for an opinion. A lot of people share,

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:27.400
<v Speaker 2>but they're not brave enough to say it. I'm not

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:30.080
<v Speaker 2>saying where I stand. I've also been married to your

0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:32.759
<v Speaker 2>mother for fifteen year of married eleven years with your

0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:36.200
<v Speaker 2>mother fifteen years, so I maybe have adjusted whatever my

0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:40.719
<v Speaker 2>potential previous bathing habits were. Who knows. All I know

0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:43.520
<v Speaker 2>is it's no one's damn business. Quick break, get to

0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:51.759
<v Speaker 2>your questions next? What's right? Hey, welcome back in What's

0:53:51.840 --> 0:53:54.000
<v Speaker 2>right with think? Right? Demondsey, We're back. We didn't even

0:53:54.000 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 2>know it. We weren't paying attention. All right, Let's get

0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:58.200
<v Speaker 2>to the listener questions right now? Go ahead?

0:53:58.960 --> 0:54:01.560
<v Speaker 4>Uh rap, I knew you were gonna say, Luca is

0:54:01.600 --> 0:54:05.040
<v Speaker 4>a villain. Come on, man, talking about how everybody else

0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:08.200
<v Speaker 4>is a victim, but somehow not Luca. Luca's top three

0:54:08.239 --> 0:54:11.560
<v Speaker 4>winners in the league, always winers in the league. Sorry,

0:54:11.600 --> 0:54:13.840
<v Speaker 4>playing always playing victim.

0:54:14.480 --> 0:54:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, I think Luca whinds to the refs a lot.

0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I do not think he plays victim to the media.

0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:24.799
<v Speaker 2>That's what I was talking about. Those other guys play

0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:28.080
<v Speaker 2>victim to the media, Luca doesn't. Luca on the courts,

0:54:28.120 --> 0:54:31.760
<v Speaker 2>always whining, but he wants to be the villain. Go ahead.

0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:33.799
<v Speaker 4>I think there is a curve when you consider that

0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:37.200
<v Speaker 4>Lucas like he's he's he's formed, like I don't want to.

0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:39.239
<v Speaker 4>I guess it sounds kind of weird, but he's not.

0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:41.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't think he was like brought up in like

0:54:41.680 --> 0:54:44.480
<v Speaker 4>the the Hales, like the way media and sports is

0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:47.200
<v Speaker 4>done over here. So I think he's still a giant baby,

0:54:47.280 --> 0:54:49.240
<v Speaker 4>but he's just a foreign giant baby.

0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:49.960
<v Speaker 3>He's not.

0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay. I listen see he winds to the refs on

0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:58.480
<v Speaker 2>the court, but he is I don't think he plays

0:54:58.640 --> 0:55:01.680
<v Speaker 2>victim in the post game press conference or off the court.

0:55:01.719 --> 0:55:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Just my opinion. All right, let's go to Kevin Gillan.

0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:09.000
<v Speaker 4>Kevin Gillen said Demonse needs his new shades. If Nick

0:55:09.040 --> 0:55:11.840
<v Speaker 4>doesn't pony up soon, the comment section is going to

0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:14.600
<v Speaker 4>pass the hat for a pair of pit vipers.

0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 2>So I looked up what pit vipers are Demonse google

0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:24.040
<v Speaker 2>pit viper sunglasses because I didn't know what those were called.

0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:27.120
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that that's what those were. I don't

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:28.640
<v Speaker 2>even know what to compare them to. I think they're

0:55:28.680 --> 0:55:34.200
<v Speaker 2>like the sunglasses Hulk Hogan used to wear, like in.

0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:35.960
<v Speaker 3>The eighties, oh, late eighties.

0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:38.759
<v Speaker 2>Or early nineties, and I think some baseball players wear them.

0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:42.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't think those would look good on Demonse. I

0:55:42.120 --> 0:55:44.160
<v Speaker 2>don't think those are really his. Look, I do need

0:55:44.200 --> 0:55:45.839
<v Speaker 2>to get you a pair of nisee shades though, that

0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:49.520
<v Speaker 2>part's true. All right, let's go to Eric Hua.

0:55:50.640 --> 0:55:52.759
<v Speaker 3>I thought you had them and like you just hadn't

0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:53.120
<v Speaker 3>given them.

0:55:53.160 --> 0:56:00.280
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, this guy, this guy is saying, oh, class, yeah,

0:56:00.320 --> 0:56:03.280
<v Speaker 2>oh I do have You're right, no, no, no, I actually

0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:05.440
<v Speaker 2>do have them. That parts I wasn't even thinking about it.

0:56:05.560 --> 0:56:07.359
<v Speaker 2>That part is I do have them, I just haven't

0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:08.040
<v Speaker 2>given them to you.

0:56:08.080 --> 0:56:11.560
<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, So Eric, who has said I understand it's

0:56:11.600 --> 0:56:14.240
<v Speaker 4>more compelling to talk about what if the Celtics lose?

0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:17.279
<v Speaker 4>But are the other talking points for if they win?

0:56:17.640 --> 0:56:20.160
<v Speaker 4>Or is it more of a what missed the cut?

0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:22.719
<v Speaker 2>No, if they win, we'll spend a lot of time

0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:26.360
<v Speaker 2>on it. The I don't and I think we're gonna

0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I think leading the TV show with a discussion about

0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:33.560
<v Speaker 2>that today. I don't think they're going to win. And

0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:37.120
<v Speaker 2>I have not been that interested in their meandering walk

0:56:37.200 --> 0:56:42.680
<v Speaker 2>to the finals through three okay teams without their best player.

0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:47.440
<v Speaker 2>I know people are might Celtics fans might not like that. Sorry,

0:56:47.880 --> 0:56:52.680
<v Speaker 2>I just haven't been and so, uh will let's see

0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:55.200
<v Speaker 2>how the series plays out. I promise if they're winning,

0:56:56.520 --> 0:56:59.360
<v Speaker 2>they will get their credit. But right now, I'm just

0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:01.800
<v Speaker 2>not that interesting in it. I'm just not and I

0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:04.080
<v Speaker 2>don't think they're gonna win, all right.

0:57:04.200 --> 0:57:09.319
<v Speaker 4>Next Negative four and two asked who would benefit most

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:14.040
<v Speaker 4>from a finals MVP, Luca, Kyrie or Tatum.

0:57:14.200 --> 0:57:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Tatum would benefit the most from it because he

0:57:19.320 --> 0:57:21.320
<v Speaker 2>would then say what more do you want from me? Guys?

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 2>So Tatum would benefit the most from it. But I

0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I think from a legacy perspective, it is no Tatum.

0:57:36.240 --> 0:57:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Actually the answers Tatum, because I think Luca gets one eventually.

0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh we had pit vipers on set. What are the

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:49.920
<v Speaker 2>odds of that? Wow? Maybe those shades? Well, I mean

0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:58.640
<v Speaker 2>that's unbelievable. Maybe those shades? All right, demontic reed, go

0:57:58.720 --> 0:58:01.120
<v Speaker 2>to one hundred overall question.

0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:05.240
<v Speaker 3>A hunter overall, Batman, bron what a name?

0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:08.960
<v Speaker 4>A question for Nick? What exactly does Lamar? What exactly

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<v Speaker 4>does Lamar need to do to be a top five quarterback?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know, not every single year of

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<v Speaker 2>the worst game of his season in the playoffs? Sorry, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>what did you say? Is like?

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<v Speaker 3>What did you say?

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<v Speaker 2>Every year of his career. He has had his worst

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<v Speaker 2>game of the season in the playoffs every single year

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<v Speaker 2>of his career. Sorry, I mean he score more than

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<v Speaker 2>ten points in a home conference championship game. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Lamar, I root for Lamar. If I'm being honest,

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<v Speaker 2>Do I think he's one of the five best quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 2>in football? I don't. All right, Next last question, Joel Penfield.

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<v Speaker 4>Joel Penfield said, Nick, I need a vibe check on

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<v Speaker 4>your thoughts on the Royals. Big stretch of games coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge stretch. Gotta take two out of three from the Guardians.

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<v Speaker 2>We had lost six of seven. It looked like we

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<v Speaker 2>were gonna be slumping going into the biggest series of

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<v Speaker 2>the year. And then that amazing ninth inning on Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>got us going in the right direction with two run

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<v Speaker 2>comeback against the Padres. Now we got to take two

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<v Speaker 2>out of three against the Guardians and stay within spitting

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<v Speaker 2>distance of the Ale Central. All right, great show, Great job, demons.

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