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Watch Unstoppable now exclusively on Amazon Prime Video. 9 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: Welcome in What's Driving the Great Episode two forty one, 10 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: where we will try to talk about the WNBA without 11 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, are you calling people out 12 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: their name, flipping out saying your people'll know you because 13 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: of me. We're gonna try to do that. I don't 14 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: know if it can be done at this point. Really, 15 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. It seems like we have all of 16 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: a sudden found these sports topic that can't be discussed 17 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: without people losing their god dog minds. I mean, I 18 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: understand there are some racial and gender angles to it, 19 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: but ultimately this is just a sports story that is 20 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 2: pretty it's it when you, when you, when you get 21 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: through all the morass, it's not that complicated. Yet there 22 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: is a whole lot of projection of people's own stuff 23 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: being put on what's happening right now in the w NBA, 24 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: And my, oh my, oh my, is it causing land 25 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: minds for so many of my colleagues. Demons, how are 26 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: you doing? 27 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 3: Pretty good? Pretty good? Crazy weekend? 28 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: Crazy weekend. And I mean, and by the way, since 29 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: this weekend, I think the Indiana Fever have played three 30 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: more games. My god, who set this schedule? I mean, 31 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: I understand you want to get eyeballs on Caitlin Clark 32 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: and shout out. By the way, because according to the 33 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: folks that monitor this type of stuff, one and a 34 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: half million people watch that Fever sky game, which makes 35 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: it the fourth highest rated WNBA game in the last 36 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: twenty two years. So people are people are into this. 37 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: So I understand the WNBA saying we got to, you know, 38 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 2: put Caitlin Clark on this world tour. But they had 39 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 2: played as of Sunday as many games in the previous 40 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: nine days as the Aces had played all season. Think 41 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: about that, they had played as many games in nine days. 42 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: The ace has played all season, so we are the 43 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: going to start with that. But first we must get 44 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: to what missed the cut. So here is what missed 45 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: the cut. The Stanley Cup final is set. More on 46 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: that in a moment. KD, We're going on his jumper 47 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: in the club. I just like Kevin Durant Moore and 48 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: more every day. And the Bills sign an Olympic wrestler 49 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: Demons much like last year. I have a crisp clean 50 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars bill right here. This will become yours digitally, 51 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: at least via zel. If you can name the two 52 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: teams in the Stanley Cup final. 53 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: This is Stanley Cup is uh, that's that's hockey. 54 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're gonna go with the Oilers, uh huh, and. 55 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: The Oilers against the what's it? 56 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 4: I honestly don't know another hockey teams. 57 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: Brewers, maybe it's not, it's not okay, you were thinking Bruins. 58 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 3: Brewers, and it's Ruins. 59 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: That's Ruins. So I was certain you were cheating because 60 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: Oilers is correct. But the fact that you weren't cheating 61 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: and got Oilers, it's Oilers, Panthers, the Rangers, it's fifty. 62 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: You know what, it's fifty. So I'm just gonna rip 63 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: this right in half and send you the So it's 64 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: fifty dollars, I'll give it to you. Good job by you. 65 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: All right to moan say, let's get right to uh, 66 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: the story that is sweeping the sports world, which is 67 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: a kind of hard foul. I mean, my god, people 68 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: everyone take them. 69 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 4: So Kennedy Carter of the Chicago Sky obviously foul the 70 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 4: crab on a Kaitlyn Clark. Yeah, and it's sparked a 71 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 4: lot of controversy. People were saying that our teammates didn't 72 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 4: back her up. They're complaining about the refie. Kaitlin Clark 73 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 4: doesn't seem to make a big deal about it. She 74 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 4: seems to be rolling with the punches quite literally. But 75 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 4: what are your thoughts? Why is everybody else making a 76 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 4: big deal on it? 77 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: Okay, and now there's more to it, which is Angel 78 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: came out yesterday and said, you know, people aren't watching 79 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: just because of her. This all start in the National 80 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: Championship Game a year ago, and and there are so 81 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: many things happening here that I find wildly fascinating. So 82 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: what you have is two groups coming colliding and it 83 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: is creating this vortex of uncomfortable takes. So one group 84 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: is not familiar with how sports media covers sports and athletes. 85 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: So that group, for instance, yesterday saw Angel Rees gave 86 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: a quote where she seemingly ends the quote with you know, 87 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 2: they're not just watching because of one person, They're watching 88 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: because of me too, and the quote end and it's like, wow, well, 89 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: I mean that's kind of you know, more me than 90 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: we What about your teammates or about the other rookies. 91 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 2: But then she went on immediately after that, if you 92 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: extend the quote another ten seconds to say, you know, 93 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: there's a lot of us and talk about the rookie 94 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: class as a whole, kind of Caitlin excluded, it would 95 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: appear that's fine, and folks are like, oh my god, 96 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: look at how you're doing this, black woman misquoting her 97 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 2: doing this, And it's like, I listen, there is a 98 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: lot of race involved here, and we will get to it. 99 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: But I promise it is not a woman thing or 100 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: a black thing. It is a sports media thing where 101 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: if you give the internet and sports aggregators a piece 102 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: of a quote that can be used against you, it 103 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: will be used against you that is unfair, It is 104 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 2: not great. It is why you have to be very 105 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: careful of the sports media aggregation site or accounts. But 106 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 2: that is not unique to aim. That is simply unique 107 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: to social media and how sports are covered. You then 108 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: have so there's this this these folks who don't really 109 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: know how the sports media sausage is made, that think 110 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: things are being wildly things are wildly unfair, which they 111 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: might be wildly unfair, but it's kind of just how 112 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: sports are covered in twenty twenty four. Then you have 113 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: a group of people that feel like, in my opinion, 114 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: I should basically be able to have any opinion on 115 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: this topic, and you should thank me for having an 116 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: opinion on the topic, because I usually don't talk about 117 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: this topic. So the fact that I'm talking about it 118 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: means if you're criticizing me for talking about it, you're 119 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: in the wrong because I should just be getting credits 120 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: and plaudits and flowers for talking about it. And those 121 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: two groups are gonna rip each other upon and I'm 122 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: a stand on the sideline and says, it just seems 123 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: to me like something we have seen before in sports. 124 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: Now again, there is a clear racial dynamic to this 125 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: that must be acknowledged. So I'll do that before we 126 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: even get to the part that I've seen in sports before, 127 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: which is there is a fraud racial history between the 128 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: WNBA players at large and the media and sponsors of 129 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: the league. That is, this is a overwhelmingly black league 130 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: that a wildly disproportionate amount of its most famous players 131 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: ever have been white players. What is also true, if 132 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: we are being honest, is if if you were to 133 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: say what percentage of the w is black? And got 134 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: that number, and then got and what percentage is white? 135 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: And then said, okay, of the twenty greatest players ever, 136 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,479 Speaker 2: what percentage is black? What percentage is white? For reasons 137 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: that are I would imagine quite complex, and I have 138 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: some theories on but I don't really have time or 139 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: interest to get into them right now. There is a 140 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: disc compared to the league as a whole, there is 141 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: a disproportionate amount of the greatest players of all time 142 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: that are white women, and so there is a weird 143 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: So that is true. What also is true is amongst 144 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: the greatest players of all time, the white women have 145 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: seen his seemed historically to been marketed and pushed and 146 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: gotten more media love than the black women, which is 147 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: why Paige Becker's a few years ago at the SPI's 148 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: I thought, gave an amazing speech when she won Female 149 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: Athlete of the Year, when she essentially got up there 150 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: and said when she was playing at Yukon before she 151 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: tore up her knee, saying, hey, I appreciate all of this, 152 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: but this is a league that has been mostly built 153 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: by black women, and people that look like me consistently 154 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: get these awards, and we need to be aware of 155 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: that and try to maybe right those wrongs moving forward. 156 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: Even though Paige Beckers was deserving of the award and 157 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: one of the baddest college basketball players of her era 158 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: before she got hurt and this new group of players 159 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: came along. And by the way, Page is still one 160 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: of the great college basketball players. She played Caitlin in 161 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: the Final four. That was the push off game, the 162 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: bad foul call at the end of the game or 163 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: the illegal screen I think it was. And she'll, you know, 164 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: and she'll continue to be awesome next year. So there 165 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 2: is all of that going on here, right, And that 166 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: is real. It is real that Caitlin being portrayed as 167 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: the conquering hero, an angel being portrayed as the villain. 168 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: Last year in college basketball, even though Angels team won, 169 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: there was a lot of race to that you cannot 170 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: act like the LSU team overwhelmingly black Bayou Barbie Flage 171 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: who's a rapper, and then the mostly lily white Iowa 172 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: team that there wasn't racial dynamics of play. Of course 173 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: there were, and we can be adults and acknowledge it. 174 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: We could just like, by the way, and I think 175 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 2: that Gabe Goodwin, our esteemed head of Blue Duck who 176 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: runs this podcast, I'll give you a cross sport, cross 177 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: gender example. Once upon a time, Peyton Hillis was on 178 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: the cover of Madden, and I bring up Gabe because 179 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: I think it was his fault for reasons I don't 180 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 2: totally remember. I think Sports Nation was involved, I think 181 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: was I think it was Gabe's fault. I blame Gabe 182 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 2: for this. But the reason Peyton hillis a slightly above 183 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: average running back for the Cleveland Browns on the cover 184 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: of Madden, it's because he's a white running back and 185 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 2: it was cool and it was an odd of the 186 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 2: And here is the other thing that I that maybe 187 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: because Demon's ay. So here's my theory on this. I 188 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: think that maybe this that I am. I think I 189 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 2: am kind of in the ultimate place of privilege when 190 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: it comes to talking about these topics, because I don't 191 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 2: feel an additional pressure if I were black. I think 192 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: there is an understandably pressure And tell me if you 193 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: agree or disagree with me on this. I think there 194 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: is a pressure on black commentators that, man, there is 195 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 2: so much obvious racism in the world and in sports 196 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: and everywhere that when a racial topic comes up, I 197 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: don't want to be I don't want to seemingly be 198 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: adding to it or be on the wrong side of 199 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: it because I have an important responsibility or voice in 200 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: the space. Like does that I'm not explaining that exactly right? 201 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: Does that? 202 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 4: But does what I'm saying make that makes sense? So 203 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 4: you think that's stay in the middle kind of. 204 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: Well, I and I think I so. I so I 205 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: am in a unique spot because and then I think 206 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 2: there's also white commentators who are trying, you know, at 207 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: times trying to pander and at times just you know, 208 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: obviously overtly on the wrong side of these issues. Black 209 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: commentators on the wrong side of these issues sometimes too. 210 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: I am just so confident that, eh, I don't think 211 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: anyone's ever I think there are a lot of things 212 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: at one point I will be unfairly accused of. I 213 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: don't think being racially tone deaf, and I don't think 214 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: being bigoted when it comes to race or not seeing 215 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: the different levels of it. I'm just not worried about it. 216 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: I think I have my entire life's body of work 217 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: and track record, and I think I also don't have 218 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: that additional pressure, like internal pressure because I am a 219 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: white guy talking about this stuff. So I just I 220 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: recognize that's something of a place of privilege, but I 221 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: just kind of call it how I see it, and 222 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: I see a lot of race involved here, and people 223 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: seem to be stubbing their toe on that curb, which 224 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: is preventing them to getting to the obvious thing that 225 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: is happening amongst the players, which is this girl is 226 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: richer than all of us, more famous than all of us, 227 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: is getting more pub and attention than all of us, 228 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: and she's a white girl. And you know what, that's 229 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: bullsh We Our team beat her team in the National 230 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: Championship game, and she got is the one that became 231 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: super famous. With all that said, it's not because the 232 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: it is the other piece of it is she is 233 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: the best of all the rookies. She's the best of 234 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: the draft class. She's the best of the gods basketball players. 235 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: Last year she was the best. So it is when 236 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 2: Lebron James got drafted before even drafted him, when the 237 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: Calves won the do you know what I'm gonna talk 238 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: about here? Demon say you're left. So here's the thing. 239 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: The Calves win the draft lottery. They have Ricky Davis 240 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: and Darius Miles on the team. The yes and those 241 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: guys are like, yeah, man, Lebron can help ride our wave. 242 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, he can ride our bandwagon. 243 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: You know, I don't think a high school kid's gonna 244 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: come in and make a big difference. But we'll see. 245 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: Those were his teammates, you know why, because he had 246 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: just gotten an eighty million dollars deal from Nike that 247 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: nobody was talking about the Calves. The Calves are like, 248 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: damn it, this is bs. We're better than him, were 249 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: older than him, were more established than him, and there 250 00:16:53,520 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: was legitimate jealousy from his own teammates. Now, fortunately we 251 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: didn't have to deal with the extra level of race 252 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 2: on this one because it was all black guys in 253 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: the discussion. I can only imagine that would have been 254 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: of all of the Lebron's stuff. Well, that's an interesting 255 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: nat Lebron's entire career as exact identical, except he's a 256 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 2: white dude. I wonder how so many things would be different, 257 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: But it wasn't there. That's that's not complicated. Rookie hazing 258 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: is not complicated, and hard thousand sports are not complicated. Now, 259 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 2: is it interesting that Aliah Boston didn't immediately come to 260 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark's aid? Yeah, it is. That is interesting. It's noteworthy. 261 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: Is it interesting that Angel stood and applauded, Yeah, that's interesting. 262 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: I don't think she likes Caitlin guess what, she's not 263 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 2: supposed to. And this whole idea that everyone should be 264 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 2: like fetting Caitlin Clark the other competitors, like, oh, we're 265 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 2: all gonna make more money thanks to you, We're all 266 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: getting all these accouterment. There's that word again, thanks to you. 267 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: That is not how athletes work. We would never say 268 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: that about male athletes, never, And people might say, oh, well, 269 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: you know. 270 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 3: Don't you think like. 271 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 4: To like keep it within the parameters of the game. Though, 272 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 4: like the foul that the grow issued to Caitlin Clark 273 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 4: was just like, I mean. 274 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 3: I think you got a flare one for it or whatever, 275 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 3: but I think it's like a different level of hate, 276 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: is what I'm saying. 277 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: So here's the thing that was out of bounds, but 278 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 2: it wasn't wildly out of bounds. Flavorant one is what 279 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: you should get, not you know, more than a regular foul, 280 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: not enough to be thrown out of the game. Now, 281 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: do I think the refs missed the boat by not 282 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: issuing it immediately? Instead I'd be issued retroactively, sure, But 283 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 2: that wasn't like and going making the rounds yesterday? Was 284 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: Candace Parker what she dealt with as a rookie in 285 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 2: the big giant melee that happened between her team and 286 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: the Detroit team when she was a rookie. Guys, So 287 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 2: I don't I don't look an Angel got fouled like 288 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: that last week and nobody gave h And I understand 289 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: Angel's frustration with this. I also And so this is 290 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: again where race must be acknowledged. The Chicago Tribune again, 291 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 2: the newspaper in Chicago. That's where the Chicago sky obviously 292 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 2: are from Angels team in the editorial, they about that foul. 293 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: They they say, and I quote the foul committed by 294 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: Chicago skyguard Kennedy Carter was egregious. Outside of a sporting contest, 295 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: it would have been seen as an assault. Pipe down, folks. 296 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: You know what's also an assault outside of a sporting contest, 297 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: A box out, a contest on a layup, shut up? 298 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,479 Speaker 2: And that that is race, right. The only thing that 299 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: gets people all of a sudden flocking to we must 300 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 2: protect this woman is a white woman in distress, particularly 301 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: if it's a non white person putting her in distress. 302 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: That is race. And like, I just feel like we 303 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 2: should be able to hold multiple thoughts in our head 304 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: at once. And I do want to go back to 305 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: the basketball piece of it because I like Angel and 306 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: I have supported Angel. I you and I had a 307 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 2: whole thing on this show when she talked about what 308 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: she had been going through. I think I was in 309 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: comparison to some of the other members of sports media. 310 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: I think I saw that for what it was better 311 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: than most and I really like Angel. So this is 312 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: the say it again flip flopping. No, I'm not flip flopping. 313 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: I'm not, but I am going to make. 314 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 3: You flopping on her stance, and I don't even know 315 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 3: that she's. 316 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: Listen. I think it's here's the thing on that before 317 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 2: I give what I was gonna say it. Folks say 318 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 2: they want to be a villain. Nobody does. The only 319 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: person in the last decade in sports that I've seen 320 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: that truly wants to be the villain. Do you know 321 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: who I'm gonna say to No, No, because he plays 322 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: the victim. He plays. He says he wants to be 323 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 2: the villain. But then he's like, you guys are trying 324 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 2: to make it so I'm broken when I'm older. No, 325 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: Beverly plays the victim too. Dylan Brooks plays the victim 326 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: all these guys. Beverly's like, you don't know what they 327 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 2: said to me. I shouldn't have thrown the ball, but 328 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: you don't know what they said. Dylan Brooks has like, 329 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: call me Dylan the villain. Then he's like, it's a 330 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: media construct. There is only one person who actually wants 331 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: to be the villain. Luca. Luca actually wants to be 332 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: the villain. He wants to go in your building, tell 333 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 2: you to go bleep yourself, swagger, do all of it. 334 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: Everyone else wants to pick and choose when they're the villain, right, 335 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 2: and it's hard. Lebron tried it for a whole year 336 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 2: and then was like, that was miserable. I don't want 337 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: to do that anymore. Okay, So that's not what I 338 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 2: was gonna say. What I was gonna say is this 339 00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 2: my advice. 340 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: Really does not look at social media at all with 341 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 3: that good Oh yeah. 342 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: I means too, he's too much you know, hookahs smoking 343 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: his eyes. Yeh ah. Here's my vice, Angel Reese. On 344 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: the basketball court, if you want there to be less 345 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: attention on Caitlin and more on you, you need to 346 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: play better. Sorry, it's gotta be better. There is not 347 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 2: there is. Angel Reese was an outstanding championship level college 348 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 2: basketball player who went seventh in the w NBA Draft. 349 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: About where she should have gone. Maybe at this point 350 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: you can say she should have gone fourth or fifth. 351 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: She is having, in my opinion, the second best rookie season. 352 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: Some would say Cameron Brinks having the second best rookie season, 353 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 2: second or third. But there is a wide gap between 354 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: what she's doing and what Caitlyn's doing, just like there 355 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 2: is a wide gap between what she what Caitlyn is 356 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 2: doing and every other. 357 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 3: Rookie, Yeah, nice, five more points on more games. 358 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: Well so, right so, And Caitlin's biggest weakness right now 359 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: is the turnovers are bad. But that was also a 360 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: problem in college, so I think that's just gonna be 361 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 2: a problem. But Caitlyn right now, it's like, oh, she's 362 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: shooting thirty five percent from the field and thirty percent 363 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 2: from three Well, angels forward shooting thirty five percent from 364 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: the field, and so she is going through rookie struggles 365 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: just like Caitlyn is. The Caitlin's numbers this year fifteen 366 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 2: and a half points, five rebounds, six assists on thirty 367 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: five thirty splits. Angel who's been the second best rookie 368 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 2: is ten and a half points per game, nine rebounds, 369 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: two assists on thirty five percent from the field. Cameron 370 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 2: Brank who's been, you know, the second or third best rookie, 371 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: nine points, five rebounds to assist on forty seven percent 372 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 2: from the field and really good defense. And then Riquia 373 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 2: Jackson ten ten points per game, three rebounds, no assists 374 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 2: because she's a big on forty nine percent from the field. 375 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 2: Thing is this, if folks want to make the argument 376 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: that Caitlin Clark is getting undue attention. Somebody in her 377 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 2: rookie class got to go out there and out player 378 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 2: and that hadn't happened, just hadn't. And that is again, 379 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 2: that's a sports conversation. And I'm not gonna act like 380 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 2: I had this kind I set everything exactly perfectly here 381 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: and that And also, by the way, we should wait 382 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: and see how Camilla Cardosa ends up looking. She's only 383 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 2: one game after missing the beginning of the season. Uh. 384 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: In our first game she played really well eleven and 385 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 2: six on five to seven from the field, So we'll 386 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: see how, you know, how she does. But the fact 387 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: the matter is, guys, there is a what is so 388 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: cool about this is we have another sport now that 389 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 2: enough people are following that it is a national conversation. 390 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: And I implore folks who have been following the WNBA 391 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: for years, don't be WNBA hipsters. Please don't be the 392 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 2: fan of the band that loved it before it, you know, 393 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 2: was going on worldwide tours. And then she towards the 394 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: new fans and gate keyp and be like, well, if 395 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 2: you weren't here shooting with me in the gym, guys. 396 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: It's better the sport growing is better for everyone. Okay, 397 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 2: I do ask that. I also ask the Johnny Cume latelies, 398 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 2: and I think I am a cross between the two groups. 399 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: I think I obviously watched and followed more WNBA than 400 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: the average person, but that's because I'm in sports for 401 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: a living. But I also was not you know, I 402 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 2: knew enough about the WNBA that last year I placed 403 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 2: a very significant bet before the season started on the 404 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: Aces to win the title, and I placed a very 405 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: small bet on the Aces to go undefeated for the season, 406 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 2: but not enough to act like I am. You know 407 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: that I'm a WNBA League Pass subscriber, and I am 408 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 2: I've never talked about it on the TV show side 409 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 2: from maybe a segment or two and seven years until 410 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 2: this rookie class headlined by Caitlin. So I'm a bit 411 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: of both, right, But I beg just like I don't 412 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 2: want the folks who were always fans to gatekeep, I 413 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: would like the folks who are new to the party 414 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 2: to not act as if A they are experts on 415 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: everything WNBA related, and B please do not act like 416 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: everyone needs to give us credit because we arrived at 417 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: the party there is this weird thing going on where 418 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: it is like, well, now that I am talking about 419 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: your sport, I am doing you a favor, and therefore 420 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: I should be above criticism for my takes on it. 421 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: Na man, Just like I said when when Diana Tarazi 422 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: during the NCAA tournament, I thought had I thought had 423 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: a bad take on Caitlin and the WNBA. By the way, 424 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 2: Diana looks like she might have been more right than 425 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: I was on that, and what I said was a 426 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 2: bad take. It looks like maybe I was wrong and 427 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: she was right. It is in battle, and I said, 428 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: and I disagreed with Diana's take, And it felt like 429 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: a lot of people disagreed with it, but were almost 430 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: afraid to say they disagreed with it the way they 431 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: would if it were Kendrick Perkins discussing Victor winbin Yama. 432 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: It's like, no, man, that everybody's everybody's grown here. Everybody 433 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 2: can find for themselves to a degree. We don't need 434 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: to be overly protective of Caitlyn Clark. She's a badass, 435 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: fierce competitor that also, despite a grueling schedule, seemingly not 436 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: a very good team and massive scrutiny is handling herself. Fine, 437 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: I say, seemingly not a very good team, Tom take 438 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: it's the number one pick them back to back years 439 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: or two and nine because like you said, But let me, 440 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: let me give one other prediction that I know is 441 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: gonna end up being a classic Category two. Caitlyn Clark 442 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: from this moment forward is gonna have Banana's numbers. So 443 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 2: here's why. So they have had multiple back to backs. 444 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 2: They have played eleven games. No other team's played more 445 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: than nine. The Aces have played six. Because of that, 446 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: the rest of the way here, they don't have a 447 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: single back to back. They have massive So they play 448 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: on the seventh, the tenth, the thirteenth, the sixteenth, the nineteenth, 449 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: twenty first, twenty third, twenty seventh, thirtieth, second, sixth, tenth, twelfth, fourteenth, seventeenth, 450 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 2: then a month off because of the Olympics, an Olympic 451 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: team that we don't know if Caitlin Clerk's gonna make 452 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: or not, and then again in September and August, a 453 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: relatively light schedule compared to the field because they already 454 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 2: had their tough part, so they're gonna have more rest. 455 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 2: They also have already played. You play the Liberty four times, 456 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: They've played them three already. The Liberty might be the 457 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 2: second best team in the league. You play Connecticut four times, 458 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: They've played them twice already. Connecticut's a top three team 459 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: in the league. So the schedule is gonna get softer. 460 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 2: She's got her legs underneath her, she's gonna have more rest, 461 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: and she's gonna ball out. And by the way, I 462 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: hope the rest of the rookie class does as well. 463 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: I'm rooting for all these girls, but we've gotta be 464 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: able to acknowledge. Of course, there is a racial dynamic here. 465 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: Of course, there is a very typical jealousy dynamic here 466 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: that would exist no matter the races, but is heightened 467 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: because of the racial dynamics here. And of course there 468 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: is just some sports competitiveness here, which is Angel Reese 469 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: thinks she's better. She beat her in the National Championship 470 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: than Caitlin got her get back the next year but 471 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: didn't win the National championship. And Angel they are going 472 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: to be rivals, and that is great for the sport. 473 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 2: All right? Did I manage to do that without saying 474 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 2: I made anyone famous or calling anyone a bitch I 475 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: think I did? Wow? Did that get me a medal 476 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 2: for it? Quick break? Right back? What's right? All right? 477 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 2: Welcome back in What's Right with Nick? Right? All right? 478 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: And after a nice half hour on the WNBA and 479 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 2: racial and gender dynamics in America and a little slight 480 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 2: media criticism, I suppose let's get right to the NBA Finals. 481 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: De Monse, go ahead. 482 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we are just a few days away from 483 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 4: your large Slovenian son being able to prove prove you correct, 484 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 4: back up all those words you've been speaking for the 485 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 4: last couple of weeks. It's weird because Boston's at minus 486 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,239 Speaker 4: two twenty this is not very weird, and Dallas at 487 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 4: plus twenty five to win the series. 488 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 3: Do you think Vegas has that wrong? 489 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 4: You know, considering the path that the Mavericks had to 490 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 4: take to get there and the Boston Celtics. 491 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I do. I do think Vegas has this wrong. 492 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 2: This would be the third biggest finals upset since the merger. 493 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: The biggest upset famously four Pistons over the Lakers. The 494 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 2: second biggest upset a weird one, the nineteen Raptors over 495 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 2: the Warriors. But Katie popped his achilles Clay blew out 496 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: his knee, so that one, I don't want to say, 497 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 2: you can throw it out, but that's wasn't a traditional upset, 498 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like the unless you think 499 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 2: the Raptors were gonna beat the full strength Warriors. And 500 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 2: then this fact of the matter is this, since the 501 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: trade deadline, the MAVs have had the best events in basketball, 502 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: and with this starting lineup, they have played this year 503 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 2: on a sixty five win pace, which is what the 504 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: Celtics played all year, a sixty four to sixty five 505 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: win pace. So I do think that this series is 506 00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 2: relatively even. And if it's relatively even and one team 507 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: has an all time legendary player and the other team 508 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: has Jason Tatum, then I'm gonna go with the team. 509 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 3: Don't I think this series is relatively even? Or did 510 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 3: you say it is? 511 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 2: I said, I do. I do think the series is. 512 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 2: I do think the series is relatively even. I think 513 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 2: their regular season records would say it's not sixty four 514 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 2: wins versus fifty wins. But I don't look at the 515 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 2: MAVs as that team. I look at the MAVs as 516 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 2: the team they were once they got Gafford and PJ 517 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: and once Lively you know what I mean, got more 518 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 2: reps in his rookie season. So I just and early 519 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 2: in the season they dealt without having Kyrie. I just 520 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 2: really like the MAVs in this spot and maybe all 521 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 2: end up being wrong and everyone people are now. Yesterday 522 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: the internet got mad at Zach Lowe for saying I 523 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 2: thought something obvious, which is Jason Tatum is somewhere between 524 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 2: the six to seventh eighth the best player in basketball. 525 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 2: That is not an indictment, It is just the truth 526 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 2: that now, can you win the title with that? Yeah? 527 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 2: Is it super rare? Yes? So like I now, does 528 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 2: the best player always win? No? If that were the case, 529 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: Lebron be ten for ten in the finals, So obviously, Well, 530 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 2: I think that's a little you know, that doesn't always 531 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: work with team sports, but it does work more often 532 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 2: than not. In the NBA, however, I typically if the 533 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 2: other teams got demonstrably and clearly the best player, you 534 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 2: need to have massive team advantage. And Vegas thinks the 535 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 2: Celtics do. I do not. I think that there is 536 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 2: a huge gap between Luca and Tatum. I think there is, 537 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 2: right now a minimal gap between Brown and Kyrie. Now, 538 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 2: the next three best players in the series are Celtics 539 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 2: Chris STAPs, Drew and Derek White, But the next three 540 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 2: best players after that are MAVs in PJ. Gafford and 541 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 2: uh Lively. I'm leaving somebody out the Oh yeah, Derek 542 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 2: Jones Junior could be on there, but the that's right, 543 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 2: and so the and then you add to it what 544 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 2: to me is a pretty clear and maybe Celtics fans 545 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 2: disagree with me here, coaching advantage for the Mavericks and 546 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 2: the fact that the Celtics have been hit or miss 547 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 2: at home while the MAVs have been absolute killers on 548 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 2: the road. And I like the MAVs in this spot 549 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 2: and so well, I think plus one eighty five is crazy. 550 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: I also think it's very on the board Boston wins 551 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 2: Game one, which is why I might wait to bet 552 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 2: the series, because if it's plus one eighty five right now, 553 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 2: it'll be like plus three hundred or plus two sixty 554 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 2: after Boston wins Game one if they win Game one. 555 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 2: But I also might just pull the trigger on bet 556 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 2: it beforehand. But I'm going to roll with this being 557 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 2: Luca's moment and that I don't think the Boston crowd 558 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 2: is going to get to Kyrie, but I do think 559 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 2: the Boston crowd is going to get Luca going. I 560 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 2: think the Boston crowd going after Luca, is going after 561 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 2: Kyrie is going to be good for Luca. I am curious, Demons, however, 562 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 2: your feelings going into this finals versus two years ago 563 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 2: when your Celtics were playing the Warriors. And I have 564 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: other questions Celtics related for you, but your feelings going 565 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 2: into the finals since the Celtics are your team. 566 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 4: A lot more comfortable with them going into the into 567 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 4: the series against the Mavericks. This is the one team 568 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 4: out of the West, like I would have been more 569 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 4: afraid to play Minnesota, and the Mavericks are uh. I 570 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 4: mean they're coming off they had to play the Timberwolves, 571 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,240 Speaker 4: who openly came out and said that they were tired. 572 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 3: Celtics aren't tired. Celtics are deeper. 573 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 4: I think that I think that the Celtics can get 574 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 4: this done in six. 575 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 3: Just way too deep. 576 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 4: Kyrie and Kyrie and Luca I don't think are going 577 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 4: to be enough to win in a seven game series. 578 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 3: I think it's just too much. 579 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,479 Speaker 4: I think that the hookah and the cigarettes will catch 580 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 4: up to Luca something. And this is your furthest lucas 581 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 4: ever been obviously, right, Yep. 582 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, he made the conference finals two years ago. But 583 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 2: this is for everyone on the as this except for Kyrie, 584 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 2: this is their first finals. Meanwhile, for everyone on the 585 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,919 Speaker 2: Celtics except for Chris STAPs, they've been here before, right, right, 586 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 2: And so I do think that plays too in your 587 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 2: favor to a degree. Actually I don't was out. I 588 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 2: don't think Al Horford's been here before, but he's played 589 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 2: in a million playoff games because he was with the 590 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 2: Celtics and then left and then came. Oh no, he 591 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 2: was there too, he was worsh You're right, because he 592 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 2: was there, then left to Philly, then came back when 593 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 2: they played for the season. So yeah, everyone but Chris 594 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 2: STAPs essentially has been there. Drew hasn't been there with Boston, 595 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 2: but he's been there with Milwaukee obviously. Uh, here's the 596 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 2: gosh it. I was gonna ask you another question. 597 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 3: Another question, but real quickly. 598 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 2: You you mentioned Luke and Kyrie won't be enough. One 599 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 2: thing that would be a little concerning for me for 600 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 2: boss if I'm Boston. As this, the MAVs did beat 601 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 2: the Thunder with Kyrie averaging sixteen points per game. So 602 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 2: they beat the number one seed in the West in 603 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 2: six games and could have won that thing in five 604 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 2: and Kyrie was, you know, sixteen points a game in 605 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 2: that series. Now do they need Luca to be brilliant? Obviously, 606 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 2: but Luca is looking healthier as the playoffs go on. 607 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 2: And that is my biggest prediction of this series is 608 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 2: you demons are gonna leave midway through this series. Have 609 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 2: a visceral dislike for Luca from the whining and the 610 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 2: preening and the screaming and. 611 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 4: On alert for his he Christ he cries, Yeah, yeah. 612 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 2: He does after a after getting calls to not just 613 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 2: after not getting calls. He gets angry when he gets calls, 614 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 2: when he doesn't get calls, the whole nine. What's your 615 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 2: other question? Go ahead? 616 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 4: Uh, do you think that Luca will leave this series 617 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 4: the villain that he wants to be or you think 618 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 4: he wants to be? 619 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 620 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 2: Oh that's a bab I like that. That's Luca's bane 621 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 2: with a hookah. Yeah. I mean I think he is. 622 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 2: I think he is going to be this, I mean 623 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 2: absolutely hated by the Celtic crowd and I can't wait 624 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 2: for it. What's your next follow up? 625 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 3: If you think that Boston will win the finals? 626 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 4: Is it a smart is a smart bet to bet 627 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 4: Tatum at minus one fifteen or Brown at plus six 628 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 4: fifty for finals? 629 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:40,760 Speaker 3: MVP? 630 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 2: Oh, listen if those odds, I like Brown way way 631 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 2: way better. Now, I am curious Who's who's going to 632 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 2: have I get that, go ahead, go. 633 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 3: No, I get that. 634 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 4: I understand that. I was just like with with I 635 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 4: think if the if the Celtics win the finals, it 636 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 4: won't be because Jalen Brown was the best player. 637 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 2: Well, he just won conference finals MVP. Now, maybe listen, 638 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 2: you might be right. 639 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 4: But I also don't know what's going on with Jason Tatum, 640 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 4: but I think he's gonna turn it on at some point. 641 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 2: Well, and he was good in the conference finals, to 642 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 2: be clear, It just Jalen Brown hit the shot that 643 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 2: forced overtime in Game one, and their numbers were christ 644 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 2: and he was more efficient. I am curious, though, who's 645 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,959 Speaker 2: go We'll talk about this more on Thursday. Who's gonna 646 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 2: be Luca's primary defender because Drew is not big enough. 647 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 2: It's gonna have to be Tatum or Brown and whomever 648 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 2: it is that is going to take a lot out 649 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 2: of them energy wise on the offensive end. Now, he'll 650 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 2: probably hunt you know, switches and stuff anyway, but that'll 651 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 2: be interesting to see. I also think, you know, we'll 652 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 2: talk about him more on Thursday. How Kristaps is gonna 653 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 2: look when he comes back is one of the biggest 654 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 2: storylines of this series. All right, let's move on because 655 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,399 Speaker 2: we have Thursday. We'll do like an all finals show 656 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 2: on Thursday. Go ahead. 657 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 3: So Justin Jefferson just signed a record one hundred and 658 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 3: forty million. 659 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,800 Speaker 4: Dollar extension with Minnesota. So that's very similar to Jordan 660 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 4: Poole money. So obviously Justin Jefferson he's he's the best 661 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 4: wide receiver in the league. So I might say, so 662 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 4: you got to give him that money. But if for you, 663 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 4: isn't it great to have, like, you know, a team 664 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 4: like the Chiefs who doesn't have to go out there 665 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 4: and spend all that money for a wide receiver? Is what? 666 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? But they nobody here's the thing, nobody else has Mahomes. 667 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 2: So I understand, and Justin Jefferson deserves the money. But 668 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 2: I do think that we and I've talked about it 669 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 2: on this pod before and I will continue to We 670 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 2: are going to reach something of a market correction. College 671 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 2: football keeps producing ready to go wide receivers and they 672 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 2: are producing less ready to go offensive and defensive linemen. 673 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 2: So I think you are going to see maybe not 674 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 2: for Justin Jefferson caliber players, but for that next caliber 675 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 2: wide receiver, the really good guy. But isn't you know, 676 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 2: top five in the league. Smart teams say we can 677 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 2: get eighty five percent of that production by a guy 678 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 2: in the draft for ten percent of the salary. We're 679 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 2: just not paying. We are not. The Chiefs have basically 680 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 2: said we're gonna draft and develop wide receivers in corners 681 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,399 Speaker 2: because that's what college football is producing, and we are 682 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 2: going to pay our offensive and defensive lineman along with 683 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 2: the quarterback. Wild's had an interesting thought, which was, under 684 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 2: the current salary cap structure, can you basically just have 685 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 2: fifty million dollars for your quarterback and your wide receiver 686 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 2: one and split it up as you see fit. So 687 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 2: like for the Vikings, you know you have Justin Jefferson 688 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 2: on the rookie deal, I'm sorry, on the record setting deal. 689 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,439 Speaker 2: And then a rookie quarterback for the Dolphins. Right now, 690 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 2: you have Tyreek and Waddle on these crazy deals, but 691 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 2: they haven't paid to a yet. The Cowboys have Dak 692 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 2: on this huge deal waiting to pay CD. Maybe when 693 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 2: they pay CD, do they then not bring back Dak. 694 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 2: The Bills, Josh Allen makes a ton of money. They 695 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 2: trade Stefan Digs the Chiefs. All the money goes to Mahomes, 696 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 2: they draft receivers. It is an interesting thought by Wilde 697 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 2: that I didn't really I hadn't really considered on that level, 698 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 2: but I now the Eagles are trying to do everything. 699 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,399 Speaker 2: Pay Davante, pay aj and pay Jailen Hurts, but they're 700 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 2: kind of borrowing a lot from the future. The Niners. 701 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 2: You paid Debo, you seem hesiten to pay Ayuk and 702 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 2: Purdy makes nothing, and so I get why the Vikings 703 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 2: would do it, But I also think some of these 704 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 2: wide receiver contracts are not gonna age. Well, all right, 705 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 2: let's play a quick game of this or that. 706 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 4: Uh, yes, it's time for this or that. We got 707 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 4: Bears hard Knocks, huge pool of them. Caleb Williams and 708 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 4: the Bears will be featured on Hard Knocks this year. 709 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 4: The NFL putting Caleb in the spotlight right away is 710 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,399 Speaker 4: genius or too soon? 711 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 2: Oh? I think it's genius. I think he's charismatic. I 712 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 2: think he'll be excellent. I think that he will become 713 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 2: instantaneously another star of the league. So I think I 714 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 2: love it. I think it's great. Next. 715 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 4: No better team for that right New York's After the 716 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 4: Rangers were eliminated. New York men's sports teams have now 717 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 4: gone to combined one hundred seasons without a championship. But 718 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 4: you've got a nice graphic up there for those questioning 719 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 4: on YouTube. 720 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 2: But that's good. 721 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 4: But they still have Jalen Brunson. New York Sports is 722 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 4: hopeless or hopeful? 723 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 2: Oh? I think it's hopeful because the Knicks just had 724 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 2: their best season in my opinion, in a quarter century. 725 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,320 Speaker 2: The Rangers, it seems like we're good in The Yankees 726 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 2: might win the World Series this year, so I think hopeful. Next. 727 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 4: Dallas is having a great year for sports. The Rangers 728 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 4: won the World Series, the Stars made the Conference finals 729 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 4: in the NHL, and the MAVs are in the NBA Finals. 730 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 4: Uh So what about Dallas? Cowboys will join the party 731 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 4: soon or never? 732 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 2: Well, it's not gonna be soon. I don't want to 733 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,280 Speaker 2: say never, but it would be later rather than soon. 734 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 2: The Cowboys are in the midst of you know, they 735 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 2: kind of took their shot with the way decks. 736 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 3: Kind of feel like. 737 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 2: Never's not that. So then I guess that soon. So 738 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 2: the I guess, I'll say, I guess, I'll say soon. No, 739 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 2: I'm not. I don't have to pick one. The answer 740 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 2: is later. It's there there is. The answer is not never, 741 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 2: but it's also not soon. 742 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 3: Yes, I want to be clipped. 743 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 4: Yesay on TV, you said your top five quarterbacks in 744 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 4: the NFL A Mahomes, Alan, Burrow, and Stroud. 745 00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 3: With the fifth spot up in the air. 746 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 4: Nick's fifth best quarterback is Lamar Jackson or Justin Herbert 747 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 4: is none of the above. 748 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 2: I'd probably go kale it. But if you guys don't 749 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 2: want me to put a rookie, I'll say Stafford. Uh 750 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 2: and so. And I know people think I'm being disrespectful 751 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 2: to Lamar. I'm just being honest. 752 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 4: Sorry, And the game you're not picking either, then you 753 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 4: just went outside of this or that. 754 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry you guys. 755 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:24,839 Speaker 3: Last one. 756 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 2: Put Justin Herbert on there instead of Matt Stafford. That's 757 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 2: not my fault. Put a better name, or put Trevor 758 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 2: all right. 759 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 4: Next, Syricus alumni Crmelo Anthony is joining the ownership group 760 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 4: for an expansion of the basketball team in Australia. You 761 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 4: said it as part of a journey to one day 762 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 4: becoming an NBA owner. Could your fates be intertwined? Nick 763 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 4: will be an Avid fan or a general manager? 764 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 2: Avid fan, I got. I had an opportunity to become 765 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 2: a part of owner ship group of lower level Italian 766 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 2: basketball team that I could have kind of been part 767 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 2: of the general manager front office, you know, kind of 768 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 2: group four. I don't know if I told you about 769 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,879 Speaker 2: this to months it's like eighteen months ago, but I 770 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,319 Speaker 2: didn't have and I thought I would want to do it, 771 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 2: but then I thought about it. I didn't have the 772 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 2: time to like, actually, you know what I mean, I'm 773 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 2: not gonna be scouting like lower level international prospects. I 774 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 2: just wasn't and so I, uh, maybe in another life, yeah, 775 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 2: it was cool and I probably should have followed up 776 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 2: on it more than I did, but I didn't. And 777 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 2: in another life maybe, but right now I just just 778 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,760 Speaker 2: Avid fan, all right? Next? 779 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 4: All right, So it took Jason kelce less than three 780 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 4: months in retirement to start picking fights. And his first 781 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 4: enemy is big soap, so he's got a thing against. 782 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason Kelsey wrote, all of you have been fed 783 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 2: diabolical lies. Washing every crevice of your bodies and hair 784 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 2: all the same all the time is somehow better or healthier. 785 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 2: Any dermatologists not in bed with big soap will agree 786 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 2: hot spots are all that's necessary and actually leads to cleaner, 787 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 2: healthier skin. This is really a I'm gonna go ahead 788 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 2: and say we started the show talking race, we might 789 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,919 Speaker 2: end the show talking race. This is also a too 790 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 2: Americas thing. This is there are real There is a 791 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 2: real racial dichotomy about how often you need to you know, 792 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 2: scrub like your calves versus whether or not when you're 793 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 2: in the shower, as Jason Kelcey put it, you wash 794 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 2: hotspots and just kind of let soap and water and 795 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,280 Speaker 2: gravity take care of the rest. 796 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 4: It is go ahead, demanse So the Jason Kelcey are 797 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 4: big so was that this or that? But that's not 798 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 4: something that you want to hear from a guy like Jason. 799 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 2: Kelsey in a big football player. Listen, he's not saying 800 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 2: he's not showering. What he's saying is is he is 801 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 2: washing directly his underarms and his you know, genitals, and 802 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,879 Speaker 2: that the rest of it, ah, soap and water will 803 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 2: take care of itself. And what I'm telling you is, 804 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 2: I don't think Jason Kelcey is the only person out 805 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 2: there with that opinion. I do think that happens to 806 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 2: be more of an opinion held in the white community 807 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 2: than the non white community. I also think that Jason 808 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 2: Kelcey one of the there are certain things like there's 809 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 2: also like a real racial division about do you just 810 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 2: use the bar of soap to clean yourself or do 811 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 2: you use a washcloth or washt owl. There's a lot 812 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 2: of things that again we don't talk about it, Like 813 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about how I shower, how I bathe 814 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 2: because I understand better than Jason Kelcey. There's certain things 815 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,799 Speaker 2: better just keep to yourself. It's just no wins in this. 816 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 2: There's just no there's no upside in this. And but 817 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 2: it was. I think Jason Kelsey has taken a lot 818 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 2: of arrows for an opinion. A lot of people share, 819 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 2: but they're not brave enough to say it. I'm not 820 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 2: saying where I stand. I've also been married to your 821 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 2: mother for fifteen year of married eleven years with your 822 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 2: mother fifteen years, so I maybe have adjusted whatever my 823 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 2: potential previous bathing habits were. Who knows. All I know 824 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 2: is it's no one's damn business. Quick break, get to 825 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:51,759 Speaker 2: your questions next? What's right? Hey, welcome back in What's 826 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 2: right with think? Right? Demondsey, We're back. We didn't even 827 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 2: know it. We weren't paying attention. All right, Let's get 828 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 2: to the listener questions right now? Go ahead? 829 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 4: Uh rap, I knew you were gonna say, Luca is 830 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 4: a villain. Come on, man, talking about how everybody else 831 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 4: is a victim, but somehow not Luca. Luca's top three 832 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 4: winners in the league, always winers in the league. Sorry, 833 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,840 Speaker 4: playing always playing victim. 834 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 2: Well, listen, I think Luca whinds to the refs a lot. 835 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 2: I do not think he plays victim to the media. 836 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,799 Speaker 2: That's what I was talking about. Those other guys play 837 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 2: victim to the media, Luca doesn't. Luca on the courts, 838 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,760 Speaker 2: always whining, but he wants to be the villain. Go ahead. 839 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,799 Speaker 4: I think there is a curve when you consider that 840 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 4: Lucas like he's he's he's formed, like I don't want to. 841 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 4: I guess it sounds kind of weird, but he's not. 842 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 4: I don't think he was like brought up in like 843 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 4: the the Hales, like the way media and sports is 844 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 4: done over here. So I think he's still a giant baby, 845 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,240 Speaker 4: but he's just a foreign giant baby. 846 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 3: He's not. 847 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 2: Okay. I listen see he winds to the refs on 848 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 2: the court, but he is I don't think he plays 849 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 2: victim in the post game press conference or off the court. 850 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 2: Just my opinion. All right, let's go to Kevin Gillan. 851 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 4: Kevin Gillen said Demonse needs his new shades. If Nick 852 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,840 Speaker 4: doesn't pony up soon, the comment section is going to 853 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 4: pass the hat for a pair of pit vipers. 854 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 2: So I looked up what pit vipers are Demonse google 855 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 2: pit viper sunglasses because I didn't know what those were called. 856 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 2: I didn't know that that's what those were. I don't 857 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 2: even know what to compare them to. I think they're 858 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 2: like the sunglasses Hulk Hogan used to wear, like in. 859 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 3: The eighties, oh, late eighties. 860 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,759 Speaker 2: Or early nineties, and I think some baseball players wear them. 861 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 2: I don't think those would look good on Demonse. I 862 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 2: don't think those are really his. Look, I do need 863 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:45,839 Speaker 2: to get you a pair of nisee shades though, that 864 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 2: part's true. All right, let's go to Eric Hua. 865 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 3: I thought you had them and like you just hadn't 866 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 3: given them. 867 00:55:53,160 --> 00:56:00,280 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, this guy, this guy is saying, oh, class, yeah, 868 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,280 Speaker 2: oh I do have You're right, no, no, no, I actually 869 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 2: do have them. That parts I wasn't even thinking about it. 870 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,359 Speaker 2: That part is I do have them, I just haven't 871 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 2: given them to you. 872 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 4: Go ahead, So Eric, who has said I understand it's 873 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,240 Speaker 4: more compelling to talk about what if the Celtics lose? 874 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 4: But are the other talking points for if they win? 875 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 4: Or is it more of a what missed the cut? 876 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,719 Speaker 2: No, if they win, we'll spend a lot of time 877 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 2: on it. The I don't and I think we're gonna 878 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 2: I think leading the TV show with a discussion about 879 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 2: that today. I don't think they're going to win. And 880 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 2: I have not been that interested in their meandering walk 881 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 2: to the finals through three okay teams without their best player. 882 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:47,440 Speaker 2: I know people are might Celtics fans might not like that. Sorry, 883 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 2: I just haven't been and so, uh will let's see 884 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 2: how the series plays out. I promise if they're winning, 885 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,360 Speaker 2: they will get their credit. But right now, I'm just 886 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,800 Speaker 2: not that interesting in it. I'm just not and I 887 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna win, all right. 888 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 4: Next Negative four and two asked who would benefit most 889 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 4: from a finals MVP, Luca, Kyrie or Tatum. 890 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 2: Oh, Tatum would benefit the most from it because he 891 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 2: would then say what more do you want from me? Guys? 892 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 2: So Tatum would benefit the most from it. But I 893 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 2: I think from a legacy perspective, it is no Tatum. 894 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:40,080 Speaker 2: Actually the answers Tatum, because I think Luca gets one eventually. 895 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 2: Oh we had pit vipers on set. What are the 896 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 2: odds of that? Wow? Maybe those shades? Well, I mean 897 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 2: that's unbelievable. Maybe those shades? All right, demontic reed, go 898 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 2: to one hundred overall question. 899 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 3: A hunter overall, Batman, bron what a name? 900 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 4: A question for Nick? What exactly does Lamar? What exactly 901 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 4: does Lamar need to do to be a top five quarterback? 902 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, not every single year of 903 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 2: the worst game of his season in the playoffs? Sorry, wait, 904 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 2: what did you say? Is like? 905 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 3: What did you say? 906 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 2: Every year of his career. He has had his worst 907 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 2: game of the season in the playoffs every single year 908 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 2: of his career. Sorry, I mean he score more than 909 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 2: ten points in a home conference championship game. I don't know. 910 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 2: I like Lamar, I root for Lamar. If I'm being honest, 911 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 2: Do I think he's one of the five best quarterbacks 912 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 2: in football? I don't. All right, Next last question, Joel Penfield. 913 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 4: Joel Penfield said, Nick, I need a vibe check on 914 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 4: your thoughts on the Royals. Big stretch of games coming up. 915 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 2: Huge stretch. Gotta take two out of three from the Guardians. 916 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,439 Speaker 2: We had lost six of seven. It looked like we 917 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 2: were gonna be slumping going into the biggest series of 918 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 2: the year. And then that amazing ninth inning on Sunday 919 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 2: got us going in the right direction with two run 920 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 2: comeback against the Padres. Now we got to take two 921 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 2: out of three against the Guardians and stay within spitting 922 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 2: distance of the Ale Central. All right, great show, Great job, demons. 923 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 2: I'll see you guys on Thursday for a finals gambling show. 924 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,680 Speaker 2: What's right? Hey, thanks for watching. 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