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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, presented by DraftKings. The Crown is yours.

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Speaker 1: We are an Action Network podcast. I'm Brandon Kravitz, back

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Speaker 1: at it on this fine Tuesday morning. Kendrick Middleton and

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Speaker 1: the Prime Minister of Degenerate Nation Stuckey, who is very

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Speaker 1: much on the Men today, back for today's episode. We've

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Speaker 1: got our Plant the Flag game for Week fourteen, after

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Speaker 1: the blood bath that was Week thirteen for all of us.

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Speaker 1: Our official Thursday Night football preview Cowboys Lions should be

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Speaker 1: a good one, and of course the main event Evans

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Speaker 1: Tuesday Primer Monday Night Football kind of a snoozer. New

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Speaker 1: England pulled away early on in this game. Do we

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Speaker 1: actually feel like we know who this New England Patriots

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Speaker 1: team is? They do have some impressive wins on the season,

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Speaker 1: but we're talking about an eleven win team. It feels

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Speaker 1: like every week they're beating up on the giants of

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Speaker 1: the world. And here you have Drake May, who, by

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Speaker 1: the way, right now odds on favorite to win the

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Speaker 1: NFL MVP at minus one thirty five, has not thrown

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Speaker 1: for three hundred yards in a single game. Yet I'm

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Speaker 1: not taking away from his MVP candidacy and saying that

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Speaker 1: he has been hyper efficient. His long ball is top

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Speaker 1: notch in the NFL, and he runs the ball as well.

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Speaker 1: I just wonder how many NFL MVPs at the quarterback

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Speaker 1: position could go an entire season without throwing for three

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Speaker 1: hundred yards. It's a bizarre sort of year for New England. Kendra,

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Speaker 1: you're in the market. Do you feel like you have

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Speaker 1: a good read on exactly what this team is or

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Speaker 1: do you think there's still some fraud within them? So?

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Speaker 2: I think I do know who this team is just

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Speaker 2: from existing in this space this season. I think that

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Speaker 2: they are not the most talented team. But I think

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Speaker 2: we've talked about how we think they like each other, right,

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Speaker 2: But I think that they're the type of team who

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Speaker 2: is coached by Mike Vrabel to do the little things

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Speaker 2: and to do the little things so well that they're

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Speaker 2: perfect that in combination with Drake May kind of elevating

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Speaker 2: himself so highly this year. I think that that's what

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Speaker 2: we're looking at, right. It's like they like each other,

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Speaker 2: they got the luck out of Drake May, and they're

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Speaker 2: doing the little things, and they're doing the little things

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Speaker 2: hard like the physicality. Difference between the Giants and the

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Speaker 2: Patriots last night is one of those, you know, things

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Speaker 2: that people consider little but really make a huge difference

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Speaker 2: down in and down out, you know. So I think

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Speaker 2: that that to this new England Patriots team is I

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Speaker 2: think that they're going to continue with the strength of schedule.

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Speaker 2: They have to be able to do those things and

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Speaker 2: do those things successfully. I do think at some point

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Speaker 2: they will slip up and lose a weird game that

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Speaker 2: they shouldn't. I think they it'll maybe be you know,

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Speaker 2: I do think that they lose to the Bills. They

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Speaker 2: have to kind of where the Bills need to be,

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Speaker 2: and I think later in the year, when you're beat up,

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Speaker 2: you know, your quarterback's been there season after season. Also

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Speaker 2: play in cold weather, so there's no advantage there. I

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Speaker 2: think that they lose that game, but maybe one other

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Speaker 2: game that's just like a random slip up for them.

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Speaker 2: But I do think that they make the postseason, probably

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Speaker 2: a first round exit, depending on who they get, just

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Speaker 2: because the talent discrepancy, like I said, is there. They

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Speaker 2: like each other, they play hard, they do the things

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Speaker 2: they are you know, do well. But not being said,

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Speaker 2: I think that that's probably where they slip up just

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Speaker 2: because you can't avoid the talent discrepancy in the postseason

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Speaker 1: Very much bloated by an easy schedule throughout the course

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Speaker 1: of the season. But Stucky, have you seen enough consistency

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Speaker 1: this team is clearly going to be in a prime

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Speaker 1: position heading into the playoffs?

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Speaker 3: Are they going to be a team that you believe in.

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Speaker 1: When we've got we've got lines coming out with the

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Speaker 1: Patriots against teams like the like the Bills, like potentially

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Speaker 1: in that do or die situation, Patriots probably gonna be favored.

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Speaker 3: Are we getting to the point where we trust them

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Speaker 1: Or are they gonna be like last year's Minnesota team

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Speaker 1: they really are.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they're obviously not as good as the

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Speaker 4: the easiest schedules in the NFL. I mean, look at

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Speaker 4: the defenses they faced. They've also won some close games.

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Speaker 4: You know, you can go look back to that Falcons

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Speaker 4: they gave up a pund return for a touchdown. Although

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Speaker 4: electric pund returner. And like Kendrick said, the Patriots do

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Speaker 4: do all those little things right. And I think Rabel's

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Speaker 4: very good in game which gives them a little edge

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Speaker 4: as far as in game management. But I mean last

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Speaker 4: dropped a dropped fumble kick return and then young Way,

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Speaker 4: who I don't know what, I've never seen that before

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Speaker 4: in my life. He just kicked the ground and missed

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Speaker 4: you don't get dopted for a missed gilgal on that,

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Speaker 4: so he just said, you know what, Gil, and you

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Speaker 4: take a sack. So they got like plus seventeen points.

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Speaker 4: Especially the same thing happened in a Panthers game earlier

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Speaker 4: the season, So yeah, they've benefited from an easy schedule.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think ultimately, I mean, if you it's

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Speaker 4: pretty funny if you look from like, for example, from

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Speaker 4: like fourteenth and the fourteen to fifteen somewhere around there,

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Speaker 4: like a league average team. The Bears, who are the

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Speaker 4: So you can't judge everything by wins and losses. I

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Speaker 4: think the market it's kind of where similar to where

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Speaker 4: I have the Patriots. They're like a plus two the Patriots,

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Speaker 4: so they're like they're like a I don't know, like

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Speaker 4: better than an average team. Do I trust them? I mean,

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Speaker 4: here's the thing they've been. They've had an East schedule,

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Speaker 4: they've been really healthy. Now they're starting to finally deal

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Speaker 4: The good news is they have a buy coming up,

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Speaker 4: so they survived up up until their bye week. I

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Speaker 4: think they probably lose the Bills, but you know, coin

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Speaker 4: But look, they they're well coached the one if they

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Speaker 4: not the most talented teams Kendra alluded to. But Drake May,

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Speaker 4: I mean he's I'm a believer in Drake May. I

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Speaker 4: one of the better quarterbacks about His deep ball is

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Speaker 4: you know, and if you look at the AFC right now,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the team I trust. I mean the

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Speaker 4: Chiefs are not even favored to make the playoffs. We'll

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Speaker 4: see if the Ravens make it. The Bills have flaws,

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Speaker 4: I mean, but like the other AFC teams right now,

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Speaker 4: So can the Patriots make a run? Sure? I mean

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Speaker 4: get in in the AFC and you can make a run.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think they're bound as good as their record.

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Speaker 4: But they're a good football team.

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Speaker 1: They're favored right now to make it out of the

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Speaker 1: AFC at plus four hundred on DraftKings. They're either going

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Speaker 1: to end up with the one or the two seed

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Speaker 1: the way that things are looking right now. If they

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be a tough matchup for them in a

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel like they're as good as their record. But

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Speaker 1: here's the thing, that path that you talk about. Let's

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Speaker 4: On the Nickson Denver waiting for you, which isn't that scary,

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you bring up a good point. The thing

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Speaker 4: but do the Chiefs end up making it so Chiefs

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Speaker 4: a brutal job. Well Baltimore on can really get in

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Speaker 4: if they win the division, so they'll they'll be a

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl win. They bottomed out before Lamar came back.

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Speaker 4: Lamar needs to get help. I need to see it

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Speaker 4: anyone's really that scared of as far as like who

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Speaker 4: one seeds could be or you're going to New England. Right,

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Speaker 4: It's not that they're not the scariest. The potential one

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Speaker 4: a lot to shake out in the AFC. But if

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Speaker 4: can you imagine an AFC playoffs? It's possible without Allen, Lamar,

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Speaker 4: Mahomes and Burrow. I mean there is a possibility.

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Speaker 2: That ap it's possible, but there's no way that all

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Speaker 2: four of them miss. Now.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it happens, but it's pretty cool like

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Speaker 4: it right now.

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Speaker 2: We would talk about this for the rest of eternity

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Speaker 2: as people who love football, truly, we would talk about

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Speaker 2: this year in particular forever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be one of those years where it reshapes

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Speaker 1: the way that we talk about seasons prior to them

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Speaker 1: starting go well, just because you have one of the

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Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the NFL, No longer guarantee that you're

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Speaker 1: I think it would change the way that we view

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Speaker 1: the futures market.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing I sort of had this day

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Speaker 1: Plus four hundred. You willing to take a stab before

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Speaker 2: I know it, I've done it. You fork somebody's house.

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Speaker 1: It's probably not a coincidence that all of those teams

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the Eagles, the coordinator is it was

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Speaker 4: find some solutions. But they got to get the one

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Speaker 4: You just win two home games get to the super Bowl. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: Seed, and they've got land mines everywhere in the NFC.

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Speaker 5: This is not because you know, you don't get the

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Speaker 2: He just got so passionate he had to sit up

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Speaker 3: But the NFC is not the The NFC will do

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Speaker 4: NFC now is like what the a C used to be. Like,

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Speaker 4: That Wildcar weekend is going to be crazy, so especially.

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Speaker 1: Because the Sade Coots baby, oh yeah, I think the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, play each other again twice?

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Speaker 2: I think two times, right, Yeah, I think that they

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Speaker 1: Flag game, Evans Primer. Is still a lot to get

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Speaker 1: to here on the episode, justin Herbert is day to

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Speaker 1: The Eagles are two and a half point road favorites here, Stucky,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think he's going to play, but

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Speaker 4: Yeah, probably Eagles minus one. Ish The biggest like, can

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Speaker 3: All right, Kendra? Before we get back at it, what's

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Speaker 4: What sell could you be?

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Speaker 2: Okay? I don't know if you guys saw this last night.

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Speaker 4: was suspended. Were not suspended, but he didn't start, And yeah,

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00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 4: that was very funny, Like a troll account tweeted.

437
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 1: That and the about Yeah, what would be the would

438
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 1: that be the proper response disciplinary action?

439
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 4: If you're watching porn in a team meeting, yeah, you're

440
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 4: not gonna get suspended for a game, but you probably

441
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 4: don't start. It's hard to imagine he was doing that, but.

442
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would imagine you, guys, I went to college

443
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 2: when people would open their laptops and stuff would still

444
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 2: be playing because they forgot to close it out. If

445
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 2: I had a nickel for every time it happened to me,

446
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 2: I would have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but

447
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 2: it's weird that it happened twice.

448
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is that has always close out your browser. People,

449
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: it's not hard. There's a big ex at the top

450
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: right of the screen. Just take care of your business.

451
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 2: So that's what's on my mind.

452
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 3: I appreciate that I did not see that. It is amazing.

453
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: I feel like you and I live in different sectors

454
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 1: of the Internet. Every single week. When I talked to Gendre,

455
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: whether it is on the podcast or off of the podcast.

456
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Speaker 4: I've never had a laptop happened. The closest I came

457
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 4: to something like that happening was when I was in

458
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 4: like seventh grade. Oh dude, no, I was just looking up.

459
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Speaker 6: I don't know.

460
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 4: It was probably porn, like just general porn, or it

461
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 4: was probably just like back.

462
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: Then, I mean Google search for big titties.

463
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. I just know that it was not

464
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 4: good or why I wasn't supposed to look. But then

465
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 4: I because my mom wasn't home yet, and then I

466
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 4: fell asleep on the couch and then I woke up

467
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 4: and my mom was on the computer and I was like, oh,

468
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 4: I didn't X out, I don't think, so my mom

469
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 4: had to x out and then luckily she didn't say anything,

470
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 4: but it was very awkward. I pretended to sleep for

471
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Speaker 4: like four hours longer because I didn't want to like

472
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Speaker 4: face her. And yeah, I will never forget that I

473
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Speaker 4: learned my lesson young.

474
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Speaker 3: I have a very similar story.

475
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to bother telling it because it's basically

476
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Speaker 1: a copy and paste, but yeah, I think, uh, I

477
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Speaker 1: think every seventh.

478
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 2: Three D we read right now Kravits this.

479
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Speaker 1: Was it was Dan Anderson, and it was a print

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Speaker 1: out on the family printer, Okay, and I found I

481
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Speaker 1: found it later in a different room than where I

482
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Speaker 1: had it, and it was displayed like we got you.

483
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Speaker 3: It has never been. This is why my face is

484
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 3: this read this is discredible.

485
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 2: I'm gonna you, guys.

486
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 3: I'm.

487
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 4: Is hilarious.

488
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 2: My face hurt.

489
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 3: For the younger audience, you guys do there's probably not

490
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Speaker 3: even color was it wasn't it was flack.

491
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 4: The struggle that kids don't know about these days.

492
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Speaker 2: Modern day Pamela Anderson happening in an NFL meeting, You guys,

493
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: that's exactly what you maybe my tinfoil hat is on.

494
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Speaker 1: I think the important note here is that kids today

495
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Speaker 1: do not understand the prime pam Anderson in black and white.

496
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Speaker 3: We had to work for it back in the day.

497
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Speaker 2: Okay, kids, I do have When my grandpa died, I

498
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: was cleaning out his house and my inheritance was a

499
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: Winston Racing snapback and his vintage porn mags and full Bush.

500
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Speaker 2: Those are my coffee table books in my house.

501
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 4: And Battleship.

502
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Speaker 2: I see, yeah, yeah, yeah, we yeah. Anyways, So.

503
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 3: Lions minus three on Thursday night.

504
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: Football's ticking on the Dallas Cowboys, total sitting at fifty four.

505
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: The two Thanksgiving featured squads squaring off, and it feels

506
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: like these two are headed in opposite directions. I'm sorry

507
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: there was no smooth transition. I'm just ripping the band

508
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: aid off. No surprise here. The bets and the money

509
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: are pouring in on the Dallas Cowboys. They feel like

510
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: the more fun bets. However, I mean, the trends are

511
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: still out there for this Lions team Campbell Golf, still

512
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 1: streaking after a loss. They've won fourteen in a row

513
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: back to twenty twenty two, thirteen and one ats in

514
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: the last fourteen after a loss. So this is very

515
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: much current form Dallas versus trends and basic betting logic

516
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: on the Lions.

517
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 3: And I'm honestly not or which way to tilt. Kendrick.

518
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: Do you have an early lean on this game Thursday

519
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: Night Football?

520
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, Like, the Cowboys are fun. I'm a Jerry

521
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: Jones hater, but they're fun right now. They're they're even

522
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: though they killed my bet the other day, like they're

523
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: entertaining the thing. For me, if the Lions were healthy,

524
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: I would like the Lions in this spot, but seventy

525
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: percent of their offense is on the injury report. So

526
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 2: I just it's hard for me to sit here and

527
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: pick a side with a team with momentum who got

528
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: better at the trade deadline, And if it weren't for

529
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: you know, some of these silly little things that the

530
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: Cowboys tend to do, Dak would be having a career year.

531
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: So it's hard for me to sit here right now

532
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 2: on a day where I don't have an injury report

533
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: in front of me and kind of give like an

534
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: eloquent take on this. But the Lions are just injured

535
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: and the Cowboys are finding momentum at a good time.

536
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: I will probably circle back to this game once this

537
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: injury report is finalized, but right now, I just I can't.

538
00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: I can't get to the window on either.

539
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: Side, trends or momentum. Which side do you lean, Stuckey, Yeah,

540
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: I mean I.

541
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 4: Don't these Lions trends I've been saying for the month,

542
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 4: like put in the bed. This isn't the same Lions team,

543
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 4: Like yeah, yeah, I mean they won after a loss

544
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 4: against the Eagles, but they should have lost to the

545
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 4: Giants at home and didn't come close to covering. And

546
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 4: they didn't cover at home against the Packers. And that's

547
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 4: two straight games at home. They haven't covered usually this team,

548
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 4: and they haven't covered three in a row. This team

549
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 4: is a covering wagon. What's wrong with the offensive line

550
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 4: is not the same. They have tons of injuries on offense,

551
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 4: They have injuries in the back end of the defense.

552
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: The play calling isn't the same. Look at what Ben

553
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 4: Johnson's doing with Chicago. That's not happening in Detroit. This

554
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 4: is not the same Lions team. And you know, like

555
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 4: and Kendrick's right, like, well, here's the thing. There's you

556
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 4: could these two teams are head in an opposite directions.

557
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 4: Like the Cowboys offense is electric. I mean, Pickens has

558
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 4: been incredible. Jack's playing at an MVP level that Clayton

559
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 4: Adams higher was amazing. Like the their run game has

560
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 4: been a good complimentary piece when no one, including myself,

561
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 4: thought that was going to be the case. But you

562
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 4: got Lamb ferguson Dak Pickens. That offense is gonna score

563
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 4: on anybody. And then it's a defense that's trending up

564
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 4: because you know, you added Quinn Williams, you got a

565
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 4: bunch of other pieces in the secondary and the linebacker

566
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 4: back healthy. So the run defense is now formidable and

567
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 4: they can get pressure.

568
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: Now.

569
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 4: The pass defense still has some holes and some questions.

570
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 4: But are the Lions gonna be able to take advantage

571
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 4: like throwing to like what Tom Kennedy, I mean, Sam

572
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 4: Laporta is a big loss. Their offensive line has tons of.

573
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: Injuries, respect Isaac tess Law.

574
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they have I mean net Rock right, their

575
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 4: backup tight end is now probably out. Is Aman Raj

576
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 4: gonna play?

577
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 6: I don't know.

578
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 4: That's huge. So here's the thing. These two teams are

579
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 4: headed in opposite directions. Like I don't think the Lions

580
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 4: are gonna make the playoffs. This game is I think

581
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 4: this game is an elimination game. Every game the Cowboys

582
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 4: need because they set themselves so far behind the almost

583
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 4: every game for the Cowboys as a must win. If

584
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 4: the Lions lose this game, they drop to seven and six,

585
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 4: a place you don't want to be in the NFC.

586
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 4: And they go to the Rams next, and you know,

587
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 4: they go to Chicago to close the year. They go

588
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 4: to Minnesota, but they already lost to the Vikings. Not

589
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 4: an easy place to play. I think they're done if

590
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 4: they lose this game, but a lot of injuries. But

591
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 4: here's the thing. The line, the look at line, which

592
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 4: it's not the most efficient market, but it gives you

593
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 4: a general read of where the market is on some

594
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 4: of these teams. Was six six and a half. So

595
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 4: this is a big adjustment down Now we're talking three.

596
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 4: I think it's the correct adjustment, but I wouldn't be

597
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 4: running to bet the Cowboys at three. But I'm also

598
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 4: not betting the lines. I got this think three is

599
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 4: the right line here.

600
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: Well, it would be so NFC East for the Cowboys

601
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: to have this, you know, progress made at this point

602
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: in the season, and the Eagles really hit that point

603
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: of regression and the Cowboys win this division because of

604
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: how hard it is to continue to win in the

605
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: NFC East. So maybe that's the play, is whatever the

606
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: Cowboys are at.

607
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 4: To win the division.

608
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, maybe that's the play here.

609
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: Truly, they do feel like the best team in the

610
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: division at the moment. If this were to tick down,

611
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: those save money continues to pour in on Dallas, we

612
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: get Lions minus two and a half with that, with

613
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: that three being as key as it is, would that

614
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: be enough to make you want to buy in on Detroit.

615
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 4: Possibly, it depends on the injury report.

616
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: It's most likely the fact that Frank Ragnow tried to

617
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: come out of retirement on this offensive line and they

618
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: were like, nah, you can't.

619
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Speaker 3: That's a problem.

620
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: That's so sad though, Like imagine.

621
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: He's like, I want to come and save you and

622
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: uh and then didn't pass the physical time.

623
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 4: I just told the Lions games right and that like

624
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 4: line's at three in a shootout game. I mean, you

625
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 4: know what this is going to come down to. In

626
00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 4: the last two weeks, it hasn't worked out for degenerate Dan.

627
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 4: He's what they're like, Oh, I don't know. They went

628
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 4: four down against hard They went oh of five on

629
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 4: fourth downs against the Eagles, So yeah, you know that

630
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 4: degenerate Dan. Yeah, so they're all of seven on fourth

631
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 4: downs over their past three games. You know, Degenerate Dan

632
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 4: is gonna be going on fourth downs and in a

633
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 4: game the Lions are gonna be able to put up

634
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 4: points on the Cowboys off and that the Cow's gonna

635
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 4: be able to score. They can score on anybody. So

636
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 4: what's this How's this game probably gonna be decided a

637
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 4: couple of lines, fourth downs, A shut up. I'm trying

638
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: to plant my flag here.

639
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 7: Okay, you're really.

640
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: Planting your flag in that deck?

641
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: Time to plant are flag presented by DraftKings.

642
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 3: The crown is yours. I'll get us started.

643
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Baltimore Ravens minus five and

644
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: a half against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I think the lore

645
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: around this rivalry is helping to drive the price down.

646
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: The fact that the Ravens got dusted last week against

647
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: Cincinnati that helped keeps the helps to keep the price down.

648
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: But it's not like Pittsburgh's been all that good either.

649
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: They got blown out by Buffalo, They've lost three of

650
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: their last four, five of the last seven, and the

651
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: tides they may be shifting in this matchup as well.

652
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: Last two meetings between the Ravens and the Steelers have

653
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: not been close games. Ravens by fourteen, Ravens by seventeen.

654
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: I'll take the Ravens now before this ticks back up

655
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Speaker 1: to six. Still six at DraftKings five and a half

656
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Speaker 1: if you can get it.

657
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Speaker 3: But I like the Ravens in this matchup.

658
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Speaker 2: Does it not feel like one of these weird games

659
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Speaker 2: that the Steelers win though to you, like coming off

660
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: a loss the whole, like Mike Tomlin argument in Division,

661
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Speaker 2: I get, you know, you just gave like the stats

662
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Speaker 2: of the scores of the last couple matchups, but like

663
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Speaker 2: this just feels weirdly like a Steelers spot of a

664
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Speaker 2: game that they win when they shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I kind of feel the same all about the Steelers

666
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: that Stucky does about the current iteration of the Lions.

667
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: I feel like all of these trends and the raw

668
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: raw Tomlin stuff, that all of that feels pass.

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Speaker 3: A at this point.

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Speaker 1: This doesn't feel like the same organization because they don't

671
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: bring us the same way defensively that used to be. Hey,

672
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Speaker 1: at any point, if they're at a low, they just

673
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: lean on defense and they're.

674
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Speaker 2: Running, running the ball. That was the identity.

675
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they can't do that right now.

676
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's my concern. I don't know if Evan has

677
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 4: this as primer, but I do think that when these

678
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: teams have been Tomlin and Harball have met over the

679
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 4: past seventeen years, I do think that under when either

680
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 4: as an underdog of three or more points, it's like

681
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Speaker 4: eighteen one in three against the spread, it's insane. I think,

682
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 4: like literally, I think it's like ninety percent, and the

683
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 4: amount of games that have been decided by three points

684
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 4: is insane. But you're right, the Steelers defense is not

685
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 4: the same. I mean, the Bills ran the same running

686
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 4: by twenty seven plays twenty seven times last week and

687
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: they Steelers couldn't stop it. They have injuries on defense,

688
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers having to go out of the pistol with

689
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 4: his hurt hand. The offense is just dysfunctional. Aaron Rodgers

690
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 4: has been over the past four weeks, has been the

691
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 4: worst quarterback in the NFL. Statistically, if you look at

692
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 4: EPA plus completion percentage of expectation, he's worse than Shador

693
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 4: Gabriel dead last. The offense is not working right now,

694
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 4: but neither is the Ravens offense. Like Lamar doesn't have

695
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 4: the same burst. There's hope for the Ravens, like I

696
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 4: don't see hope for the Steelers. It's just how is

697
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 4: this going to get fixed? Then the receivers can't get separation.

698
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 4: Rogers is hurt now once You's like if Lamar, like

699
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 4: if that burst comes back now. The Steers have done

700
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 4: a really good job against Lamar, Jackson Astor. But they

701
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 4: usually have a really good game plan. But this is

702
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 4: a game where the Ravens can just line up and

703
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 4: run it. Are the Steelers, Like look in the steer,

704
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 4: that's all the Bills did. The Bills run the same

705
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 4: two plays the entire game instead of record stadium record.

706
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Speaker 4: But I do get the hebgb's when it comes to wanting,

707
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Speaker 4: because I want to lay it with the Ravens here too.

708
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 4: But I've just seen so many Ravens Steelers games at

709
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 4: all end up three, no matter what, like it's just

710
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 4: it'll be the team ten somehow. Overall, since twenty five,

711
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 4: the underdog in this series is twenty nine twelve and

712
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 4: three against the spread seventy one percent. When the line

713
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 4: is three or more points, the underdog is twenty three

714
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 4: five and three against spread, which is silly.

715
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Speaker 3: But it is very very much so might not apply.

716
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 4: It also might not apply to the Ravens. Like the

717
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 4: Ravens offense right now is also broken.

718
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Speaker 3: They they have not looked good.

719
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Speaker 1: I think the word hope that you laid out as

720
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Speaker 1: part of the reason why I am on Baltimore here,

721
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: I have faith that they can bounce back. I don't

722
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Speaker 1: feel the same way about Pittsburgh.

723
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Speaker 3: And two thousand.

724
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Speaker 1: Going back to two thousand and five, we're talking about

725
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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, one of the greatest quarterbacks I've ever seen

726
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: play the game, some elite defenses. I think that we're

727
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,479
Speaker 1: getting caught up in the logos here. This line should

728
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Speaker 1: be closer to seven. In my opinion, Kendro, what about

729
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: you plant the flag.

730
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna plant my flag on the Bengals. When I

731
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: saw this number at plus six, I was absolutely shook,

732
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: didn't believe it, and I thought our website was off.

733
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Speaker 2: It is not. We've seen what Joe Burrow can do

734
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: when he's coming from behind. He plays with a vengeance.

735
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Speaker 2: I think that he probably should have been even more

736
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: considered for MVP last year, considering how much time he

737
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: you know, missed and came back and just played like

738
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,959
Speaker 2: an insane person kind of doing the same thing right now.

739
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: The injury reports as well so far from me, have

740
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 2: been a little concerning for Buffalo. So I really like

741
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Speaker 2: this number. And the thing is the Bengals, they get

742
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: their schedule gets easier. They have the Bills this week,

743
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: and they have the Ravens this week, and then they

744
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: finish out with the Dolphins, Cardinals, and Browns. I think

745
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: that if they can find a way to get stay

746
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 2: healthy through these you know, gauntlet of these couple games,

747
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: especially the next Ravens game, they might be on a

748
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 2: little bit of a tear. So I'm gonna go with

749
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: the Bengals.

750
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Speaker 1: To Higgins coming back as well as an underdog Joe

751
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: Burrow twenty and eleven against the spread. If it's a

752
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: dog of three or more, he is eighteen and three.

753
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: Ats gonna be cold at kickoff, So I think a

754
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna look to back a home

755
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: team Buffalo squad. It looks really strong right now, wintery,

756
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: cold weather. But I think Burrow plays well. We've seen

757
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: him go into Buffalo in the playoffs and get a

758
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: win against this Bills team, So I like that. I

759
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: was looking the way of the Bengals myself. Stucky you

760
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: read on that and you're playing the flag.

761
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 4: I watching some injuries there. I mean, I don't think

762
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 4: the Bills will be able to The Bengals defense is

763
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 4: really bad too. I don't think that they'll be able

764
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: to run the seam two plays like they did last week.

765
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Speaker 4: But who knows. The Bengals offense is obviously much more

766
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 4: efficient explosive. The Bengals run game also, and some of

767
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 4: their run concepts can give Buffalo issues. This is a

768
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Speaker 4: huge game for Cincy. If the Bengals can win this game,

769
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Speaker 4: I mean, they're live for the division because they get

770
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Speaker 4: to host the Ravens. The Ravens and Steelers play each

771
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 4: other twice, so if they split right, and then you

772
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 4: look at the rest of the Bengals schedule, as Kendra mentioned,

773
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Speaker 4: it's they host the Ravens and it's Dolphins, Cardinals, Browns.

774
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Speaker 4: But if they lose this game, probably done because because

775
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 4: again the Ravens and Steers play each other. So this

776
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 4: is an enormous game for the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of big games this week, to be honest.

778
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot, a lot of a lot of big games.

779
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 4: Like I mentioned, the Charger Eagles game is huge. Like Eagles,

780
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 4: they want that one seed. They're gonna have to win

781
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 4: this if not, like in Dallas, wins is the division

782
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 4: in question. The Chargers have a brutal schedule after this.

783
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Speaker 2: Game.

784
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Speaker 4: That game I think is elimination.

785
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Speaker 2: That's an elimination game. I agree with you absolutely.

786
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Speaker 3: We mentioned the Jags Colts.

787
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Speaker 4: Is the Jags the first place.

788
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Speaker 2: It's a massive weekend.

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Speaker 4: Dude, Monday night they on the Monday Night graphic, they

790
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 4: put race for the one seed. They put in the act.

791
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 4: They put Broncos, Patriots, and Colts. I was like, this

792
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 4: week too, Like Bags are in first place with an

793
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Speaker 4: easier schedule. They put the Colts up there.

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00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: Nobody's talking about the Jags. I'll bitch about that for eternity.

795
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 2: Everyone's like Denver, Houston, Indianapolis, all this stuff. I'm like,

796
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: the Jags lead the division. You guys won't even give

797
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 2: them their flowers. Like, don't get me wrong, I don't

798
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: believe in this team going anywhere either.

799
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Speaker 4: You're not talking about the Jags either.

800
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Speaker 2: Hell Ma, no, that team is like this is your yeah,

801
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: let me let me fall on this sword, however I choose. Okay,

802
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 2: I've been going through the scrap for far too long.

803
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 4: Jags super Bowl. Uh, that's I'm playing.

804
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: Jackson super Bowl this year. I will get the Lombardi

805
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: Trophy tattooed on my left ass cheek.

806
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Speaker 4: All right, that's.

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Speaker 1: Your first uh Jags future as he said, we're right

808
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: that one in.

809
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 4: That's that's what I'm.

810
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: Playing I'm dead ass. I will get the Lombardi Trophy

811
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Speaker 2: on my left ass cheek. I have a huge like yeah, yeah.

812
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 4: Uh now, plany my flag. I'll plan my flag on.

813
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 4: I'm gonna with the Falcons plus seven and a half

814
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 4: against the Falcons, excuse me, against the Seahawks at home.

815
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Speaker 4: I think number one, this is a it's a cell

816
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 4: hive of the Seahawks. I think, I mean, they're nine

817
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 4: to three against the spread. We're at the peak of

818
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 4: the market on them. Look and look you look back

819
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 4: last week that that game was three to nothing at

820
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Speaker 4: the end of the first half and Brosmuth would played

821
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Speaker 4: one of the worst quarterback games of all time. Was

822
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 4: shut down, shut to completely shut down. They were using

823
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Speaker 4: like they and the the Vikings and the Falcons, very

824
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 4: zone heavy teams that can get pressure that blitz. Seahawks

825
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 4: have some offensive line injuries. Darnold very quietly has been

826
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Speaker 4: very poor over the past month.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that they make I mean quietly didn't

828
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Speaker 2: throw like five interceptions.

829
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Speaker 4: The Rams, but he hasn't been great in other games

830
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Speaker 4: where they just and look the last two weeks they

831
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Speaker 4: played cam and the Titans and then the Brosmer and

832
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 4: the Vikings and the Falcons. Look, the Falcons aren't aren't great,

833
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 4: but this is a team that last week they dominated

834
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 4: the Jets like they should have won that game, like

835
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: statistically they got beat on special teams, like they had

836
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 4: a mouth to punt at the five like statistically they

837
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 4: were way better. The Falcons are one in four over

838
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 4: their past five games with one second to go in regulation.

839
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Speaker 4: They trailed once and it was by one point at

840
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 4: the Patriots. That's it. They lost in overtime to the Colts.

841
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 4: Easily could have won that game on the neutral field,

842
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 4: Blew a big lead against the Panthers, lost in overtime,

843
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 4: lost a game that they should have won at New York,

844
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Speaker 4: lost on a fifty two yard field walk off field goal,

845
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Speaker 4: and then beat the Saints. I mean they were one

846
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 4: in four of the past five games there with a

847
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 4: positive scoring differential. They've only trailed once by one point

848
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 4: at New England with one second to go in regulation,

849
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 4: and there's a good there's a decent chance Drake London

850
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 4: comes back. Kirk Cousins has looked better in the past

851
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 4: two weeks. The Falcons numbers aren't great versus heavy personnel,

852
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 4: which they'll see a lot of against Seattle, but if

853
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 4: you filter out with him without Devon Diablo, it's like

854
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 4: a three yard difference. He makes a huge difference against

855
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 4: the run. Seahawks aren't a great rushing team efficiency wise.

856
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 4: That's how you really want to attack the Falcons. And

857
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 4: here's who I think they really miss is my guy

858
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 4: Tory Orton, because a lot of times they just have

859
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 4: two receivers out there and they're not. Shh Heed's only

860
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 4: playing like thirty forty fifty percent. He's done nothing. What

861
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 4: is she? Het has like seven catches in four games.

862
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 4: He's supposed to be like this piece. And now it's

863
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 4: like Cooper Cup, the corpse of Cooper Cup. And then

864
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 4: JSN and now I think teams saw what the Vikings

865
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 4: did last week, a lot of help over the top,

866
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 4: more cloud coverages to kind of take away JSN, and

867
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 4: the Falcons do it generally do a good job of

868
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 4: taking away explosive pass plays. I just think this line

869
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 4: is too high. I think the Falcons will be in

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Speaker 4: this game at home, So give me over a touchdown

871
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Speaker 4: with Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: A gross Falcons dog bet after losing to the Jets.

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Speaker 3: This is versical.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to bet the Jags. I mean, the

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Speaker 4: Falcons is dogs. You don't never want to bet them

876
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Speaker 4: as favorites, Like this is going on for years and

877
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Speaker 4: for what it's worth the just like I love fading

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Speaker 4: teams off of like shutout wins. This isn't gospel, but

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Speaker 4: road teams off of a home shutout, right, So like this, Oh,

880
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 4: look look at this team. They just want twenty six

881
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Speaker 4: to nothing. Road teams off a home shutout over the

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Speaker 4: past twenty five years, seventeen thirty five and one against

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Speaker 4: the spread thirty two point seven percent. So yeah, and

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Speaker 4: the Falcons lost the game they should have won. Last week.

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Speaker 4: Seahawks benefited from facing Frosmer Darnold kind of trending down

886
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Speaker 4: a bit that the defenses have tape on this offense

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Speaker 4: or they're adjusting a bit better. So yeah, I'll take

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Speaker 4: I'll take the seven. I think it's nice too high.

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Speaker 1: Our play at the Flag Games presented by DraftKings. The

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Speaker 1: Crown is yours. Kendra is on the Bengals plus six,

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Speaker 1: Stucky on the Falcons plus seven and a half, and

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Speaker 1: I will lay it with the Baltimore Ravens minus five.

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Speaker 3: And a half.

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Speaker 1: Evan Abrams bring us home the Primer is poppin this

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Speaker 1: week over at actionnetwork dot com. Evan, what are the

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Speaker 1: trends that we need to be aware of before we

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Speaker 1: go firing away on the apps.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so Tuesday morning we're recording here.

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Speaker 7: Primer is now live on the site, so check it

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Speaker 7: out with all the great games this weekend. I think

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Speaker 7: the biggest really topic of conversation across the league, and

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Speaker 7: you hear it across almost every show, is just a

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Speaker 7: parody in the league. So I took a look at it,

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Speaker 7: and during Week fourteen, we currently have seventeen teams listed

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Speaker 7: below fifty to one odds to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: That would be the most for any season dating back

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Speaker 7: to at least twenty ten. The previous high was fifteen

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Speaker 7: teams in twenty seventeen, So seventeen teams currently under fifty

909
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Speaker 7: to one seems like a lot. It is also twelve

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Speaker 7: teams these four games above five hundred right now tied

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Speaker 7: for the most in NFL history. So right now, absolutely

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Speaker 7: anybody can win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: You've heard it.

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Speaker 7: Everywhere, and the odds kind of tell you that. I

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Speaker 7: feel like the other story. You look at the board

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Speaker 7: and you say Tennessee, Cleveland, thirty three and a half

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Speaker 7: seems like a fun topic to talk about, but listen,

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Speaker 7: since it started twenty ten, be the third lowest total

919
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Speaker 7: in an outdoor game in freezing temperatures, so we do

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Speaker 7: not see this a lot. Thirty two and a half

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Speaker 7: Saints Brown's in twenty twenty two, and of course the

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Speaker 7: infamous lowest total NFL history twenty eight and a half

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Speaker 7: Jets Patriots in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 6: So two rookies and a low total can't wait.

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Speaker 1: And two rookies where there was a lot of debate

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Speaker 1: about these two leading up to draft season. Of course,

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Speaker 1: cam Ward really started to separate himself as we got

928
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Speaker 1: closer to April one, up being the number one overall

929
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: pick and Shador Sanders a shock to us. All drops

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00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: to the fifth round. But that game gonna be nice

931
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Speaker 1: and disgusting. And it looks like the Browns are taking

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Speaker 1: money too. They were minus three and a half when

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Speaker 1: we started recording. They're minus four and a half now

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Speaker 1: against the Tennessee Titans. Could you imagine sitting there on

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Speaker 1: Sunday laying it with the Cleveland Browns and it might

936
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Speaker 1: not be a bad idea.

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Speaker 3: I don't think of it.

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Speaker 4: When's the last time I had a total under thirty three?

939
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Speaker 7: Last year under thirty three would be that thirty two

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Speaker 7: and a half game, I believe Cleveland and Miami or

941
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Speaker 7: No Saints Brown's twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 4: Man, what are the what's the updated win forecasts for that?

943
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Speaker 6: It's honestly not that bad. I only see like ten

944
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Speaker 6: eleven miles an hour. It's just supposed to be.

945
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Speaker 4: So this might have been like this total could if

946
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Speaker 4: there was like thirty mine hour wins, this total could

947
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Speaker 4: have been like twenty nine and a half.

948
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Speaker 7: I mean, it's not often stuck. You see the look

949
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Speaker 7: ahead at thirty five and a half, like usually weather,

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Speaker 7: to get a weather, we'll drive it down. It started

951
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Speaker 7: super low, so I think it really depends how the

952
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Speaker 7: week goes.

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Speaker 4: There was some There was some games in like the

954
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Speaker 4: mid two thousands. I don't know if you had this

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Speaker 4: up if you want to, like pull up on action labs.

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Speaker 4: The like the lowest totals we've ever had, But they're

957
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Speaker 4: like the Bears, like the mid two thousand Bears teams

958
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Speaker 4: that were like dominant defensively with horrendous quarterback play, and

959
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Speaker 4: then when they would have a really windy game there.

960
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Speaker 4: I think there might have been a total that was

961
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Speaker 4: like twenty nine and a half.

962
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Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, there's been. I mean twenty eight and

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Speaker 7: a half is the record. We saw that with the

964
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Speaker 7: snow Crazy game with New England and the Jets. There's

965
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Speaker 7: a ton of two thousand and five, two thousand and four.

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Speaker 4: Bears, like three eights maybe.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thirty thirty one and a half, thirty and a half.

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Speaker 6: It's usually Bears at home and Browns at home is

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Speaker 6: where you get the lowest totals in NFL history.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, with the wind. But yeah, those Bears teams. I

971
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 4: think I remember a twenty nine and a half one.

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Speaker 4: There was that Bears forty nine ers. I don't know

973
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Speaker 4: what the total was, but the Chris Berman on the

974
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Speaker 4: the on when he wo and the Bogos, they try

975
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 4: to kick a field goal and it goes and it

976
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 4: literally goes thirty yards right in the wind.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I believe it's Bears Niners.

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Speaker 7: Two thousand and five total was thirty seventeen to nine

979
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Speaker 7: final and there.

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Speaker 4: Was Nathan Vasher had one hundred and eight yard kick

981
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 4: missed field goal return at the end of the half.

982
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: And it's still went under here ready.

983
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Speaker 7: Watch this field goal attempt by Robbie's solid fool to

984
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 7: the Bears.

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00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: You think it's windy, understatement of the year and the

986
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Speaker 2: kick us up, it's on the.

987
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Speaker 3: Way and it's no good man, Harry Goes. They had

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Speaker 3: no shit.

989
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 4: It went out of the end zone.

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Speaker 3: There will never be another.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, NFL Prime Time back in the days best. It's

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Speaker 4: so long. But I used to watch that every night,

993
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 4: every night after the NFL games. But yeah, so that

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Speaker 4: was thirty, said Evan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I Evan will let you go back

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Speaker 3: to your layer. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Go and check it out actionnetwork dot Com or on

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Speaker 1: episode special thanks to our producers David Paine and Gifford Gould.

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