Speaker 1: All my life, the grinding all my life, sack fights,
Speaker 1: hustle back price. One slice got the dice to swadd
Speaker 1: all my life. I've been grinding all my life, all
Speaker 1: my life, the running all my life, sacrifice, hustle back price,
Speaker 1: one slice got the dice to swaddy all my life.
Speaker 1: I've been grinding in all my life. Hello, welcome to
Speaker 1: another edition of Club Sha Shay. I am your whole.
Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp, also the proprid of Club Sha Shade, the
Speaker 1: guy that's stopping by for conversation on the drink today,
Speaker 1: is a three time Special Teams Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: He's three time First Team All Pro, made four Pro Bowls.
Speaker 1: He's also a member of the two thousands and two
Speaker 1: thousand and ten All Decade Team. They're not very many
Speaker 1: of those guys. He's also a member of the hundredth
Speaker 1: Anniversary Teams, which means he's one of the hundred greatest
Speaker 1: players in NFL history, of the twenty thousand plus players
Speaker 1: that's ever played. A hundred Greatest Bears of All Time.
Speaker 1: University of Miami Sports Hall of Famer Herric Ain't Hester anytime.
Speaker 1: The Windy City Flyer Devin Hester, Dad, what's up? Brouh.
Speaker 1: What's up, baby, man, I'm hanging in there. How about yourself? Man,
Speaker 1: I'm great man. All I mean when you hear me
Speaker 1: reading out our special teams in the All Pro, in
Speaker 1: the All Decades two times, they're not very many of
Speaker 1: those guys, A hundredth anniversary team. When you hear all
Speaker 1: these accolades, what do you think, man? It's just to
Speaker 1: be honest. A great career by a football player, you know,
Speaker 1: from high school all the way up to college and
Speaker 1: then in the pros. You know what I mean? Those
Speaker 1: are type of stats and statistics that a football player
Speaker 1: dream and love accomplished once they finished their career. Right.
Speaker 1: Congratulations on being nominated in your first year of eligibility
Speaker 1: for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. What would it
Speaker 1: mean for Devin Hester? A returner basically a special teams player,
Speaker 1: because they're not very many if I'm not mistaken, Martin Anderson, Ray,
Speaker 1: Guy yonst the Rule, George Blander who started apart he
Speaker 1: was a kicker and a quarterback, but you were primary
Speaker 1: or returner. What would it mean for Devin Hester to
Speaker 1: get into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in his
Speaker 1: first year of eligibility? Ye? It would be honest. Man,
Speaker 1: it would mean a lot to me. Man, this is
Speaker 1: son that we're just not talking about an award that
Speaker 1: anybody gets. Right. When you talk about the Hall of Fame, Man,
Speaker 1: this is the greatest among the greatest. This is like
Speaker 1: when you go back to the ancient day you're talking
Speaker 1: about Achilles, Troy, the Greek gods, like those names are
Speaker 1: a month all the warriors that that was fighting, you know.
Speaker 1: So in this situation when it comes to football, man,
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame is every dream come true for
Speaker 1: a kid. Man, and for me to make it, Man,
Speaker 1: it really not only for me to make it, but
Speaker 1: to open up the doors because if I do make it,
Speaker 1: and when I do make it, I would be the
Speaker 1: first one as a kickoff a point returning that that
Speaker 1: makes the Hall of Fame for me. That's very special.
Speaker 1: To open all doors for the younger ones coming up,
Speaker 1: but not only for myself, but to put a chair
Speaker 1: on top of my career. Man, you mentioned it. If
Speaker 1: you play football, the Pro Football Hall of Famer, the
Speaker 1: football heaven, it's football mecca. That's where all the grades go.
Speaker 1: That's their finals, that's their final accolade, that's their final accomplishment.
Speaker 1: That's the as you mentioned the cherry on the top.
Speaker 1: There is no greater than that. And so you know,
Speaker 1: they mentioned, you know, pro Bowl player, and they mentioned
Speaker 1: super Bowl, but when they say Devin Hester, Pro Football
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, there is no They're only they're less
Speaker 1: than four hundred gold jackets out there. They're about twenty
Speaker 1: five thousand Super Bowl rings out there. They're only about
Speaker 1: four hundred gold jackets. Right. That's that's that's a lot, man,
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. That's like being in the field.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean in the hospital. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: only two or three they running at their hospital. Man,
Speaker 1: you get that thought about how your name man, it
Speaker 1: speaks for us. Up. When I mentioned returners, they've been
Speaker 1: some all time grade returns. We can go back to
Speaker 1: Gail Sarahs who played with the Bears. We go Billy White, Shoe, Johnson,
Speaker 1: Rick up Church, Dan Sanders, Joshua Cribs, Dante Haul, Brian Mitchell, Mayle, Gray,
Speaker 1: Eric Metcal Where does Devid has to rank? Man? To
Speaker 1: be honest, man, we to be honest. Man, I'm talking
Speaker 1: to you, I ain't talking to me. If I'm talking
Speaker 1: to you, well then get the shop. Oh you know that?
Speaker 1: So you are you? Are you saying it is Devid
Speaker 1: has to telling me he to go most definitely, but
Speaker 1: not what I wanted to hear. Are they what I
Speaker 1: wanted to hear? Oh? Yeah, I am and I believe.
Speaker 1: So you know when you look at the stats, right,
Speaker 1: you look at the tech. Yes, the things that I
Speaker 1: do has never been done before, never in the National
Speaker 1: League Football. And the position that I played, I took.
Speaker 1: I took it at another level. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And to be honest, it's when you when it's tied
Speaker 1: to pick a returner, I do believe I should be
Speaker 1: the first one when it's time put up kick returning.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you return to the ball. Devin
Speaker 1: have the name should be called first, most definitely. I
Speaker 1: truly believe that. And I know that everybody that knows
Speaker 1: the game of football. I love football. No. When they
Speaker 1: mentioned the best kickoff and part returning, if you're a
Speaker 1: real true football player. When I look at your record,
Speaker 1: you're the first only player to return to open a
Speaker 1: kickoff in the Super Bowl for a touchdown. You broke
Speaker 1: the most touchdown all time return touchdowns. You broke the
Speaker 1: records in Atlanta, most part return touchdowns fourteen, most returns
Speaker 1: for TV's in the season six. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: that was your rookie year. Did you expect to have
Speaker 1: if did you expect to have that kind of impact
Speaker 1: in your rookie season? Nah? Most definitely not what I mean,
Speaker 1: but I was I was told coming out of college,
Speaker 1: right but from a sub of coaches. Right then, listen, man,
Speaker 1: if you go to the NFL right now, you're just
Speaker 1: gonna be a kick off part return Okay, I say,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna go, but I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: the best one to ever do it. And let me
Speaker 1: pick a bank off of what you just said. You
Speaker 1: said that I brought the record for the most kick
Speaker 1: off punt turn in a single season my rookie year,
Speaker 1: I did, but my second year I brought that record. Wow.
Speaker 1: So oh yeah. When when you think back, you're going
Speaker 1: to the coaches are telling you, yeah, you can come out,
Speaker 1: but you're only gonna be a returner. Now, remind you,
Speaker 1: in college you were mainly a dB. You played more
Speaker 1: defense than you played offense. What made you so confident
Speaker 1: that you could go to the NFL and have that
Speaker 1: level of success? Considering that you were kind of like
Speaker 1: a jacket. You played offense, you played defense, you return
Speaker 1: to football. You weren't really a specialist on the offense
Speaker 1: or the defensive side. That's that's sun and that was
Speaker 1: left up to the coaches. Man. And like, I don't
Speaker 1: really like to talk about that typic because a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know it. But my sophomore year when well,
Speaker 1: really I started playing dB and I beat out the
Speaker 1: starting corner right late later and season like five more
Speaker 1: games left and end up leading team and picks. So
Speaker 1: made a parade Hall American and all that. My summer
Speaker 1: year swad my junior came in and I was ready
Speaker 1: one of the top corners coming in the league in
Speaker 1: the season, so you know, you started getting all that accolade,
Speaker 1: the photo shoots in the magazine, started coming to campus
Speaker 1: doing all this stuff. My decordinate didn't like it. He
Speaker 1: was like, you know what I mean, you blowed up
Speaker 1: too quick, You on the scene too fast. We're gonna
Speaker 1: sit you down. So I got I got knocked down
Speaker 1: to thirteen man screen ball man, and I approach them
Speaker 1: about the situation, like, listen, I'm not that type of
Speaker 1: player that feed off all that all that accolade and
Speaker 1: all American and playball, all American knowledge, that's not what
Speaker 1: I want. I want to come in here and contribute
Speaker 1: as being one of starting corners on this team and
Speaker 1: do my best right. And so I approached him about
Speaker 1: the situation and it didn't go the way that he
Speaker 1: wanted because he was like, I don't care what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Ship were Finn, sit you down. There's too much spotlight
Speaker 1: on you. And I said that bullshit, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And I got up and walked out here
Speaker 1: like that's all here like, and he caught me and
Speaker 1: I didn't come back, and so he stuck his head
Speaker 1: out of the door. He say, as long as you
Speaker 1: played here, you would never put another down for me,
Speaker 1: as long you play here, And I said, the best
Speaker 1: my whole junior at corner. So I just did a
Speaker 1: kick off and point turn and I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the best kick on punt turn that is.
Speaker 1: So that where my cornerback career just pretty much ended. Man,
Speaker 1: So that was one of the reasons you also left earlier.
Speaker 1: You're like, man, I got to get up out of here.
Speaker 1: I might do something bad to somebody because they missed.
Speaker 1: They tried to mess up my money. Apparently that's what
Speaker 1: really happened. Man. So I was like, I really just
Speaker 1: got drafted off my souhomore year what I did in
Speaker 1: my songmore year when I did have the opportunity to play, right,
Speaker 1: when you look at the way the game is shifting now,
Speaker 1: the rules that they've implemented, no more three man were
Speaker 1: just no more two man were just no more holding hands.
Speaker 1: You remember when you came in, you have three of those.
Speaker 1: You have three D tackles or two D tackles of
Speaker 1: the offense, a live but holding halfs and then here
Speaker 1: we come, we got five appliers looking to blow somebody up.
Speaker 1: They are no longer allowing you to do that, obviously
Speaker 1: for concussions, for the health of the players. Now do
Speaker 1: you believe your records and the return game would be broken?
Speaker 1: I think from them just moving the kickoff up for it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and allowing the kickers to
Speaker 1: kick it deepen ends on when when I was in
Speaker 1: the league, you know, after my third or fourth year,
Speaker 1: when they had the negotiation about changing the rules. Right,
Speaker 1: my special team coach, which is the best I would
Speaker 1: say the best best team coach in the NFL, which
Speaker 1: is Day Told who was at Kansas City Chiefs right now.
Speaker 1: But he can't brought it to my atensions, like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're getting ready to go to a meet. They're having
Speaker 1: a meet and about moving the kickoff. Uh right, And
Speaker 1: so it was like be ready for it. And so
Speaker 1: when he came back, he said, you know what, when
Speaker 1: we had the meeting, out of thirty two teams, everybody
Speaker 1: agreed on moving it up. Beside that's up me and
Speaker 1: everybody said, well, we don't have no Devin Huster, so
Speaker 1: we want to move it up, right. Is that that's
Speaker 1: why that's why they moved it up, because you owe
Speaker 1: every team voted to move it up if you also
Speaker 1: remember Devin. Now, they don't allow the guys. When I
Speaker 1: first came to the league playing special teams, the guys
Speaker 1: would get ten fifteen yards deep, get a running start.
Speaker 1: So when the kicker hit the ball, everybody's little day spread.
Speaker 1: So by the daring the wall set up and they
Speaker 1: looked around. The guy would bet his hip pocket running
Speaker 1: past it. And you walked up with one of those
Speaker 1: guys that said, your coach would tell you, I don't
Speaker 1: care how deep they kick it? Bring it out? Come on,
Speaker 1: take it out, take it out? What did that mean?
Speaker 1: Because you see now basically if the ball two yards
Speaker 1: deep in the ends on, you see everybody's like, okay,
Speaker 1: we're good, we were straight. We were breaking about you
Speaker 1: was like, hey, they already knew devid hes to coming
Speaker 1: out with it. Say, hey, they can't kick it. They
Speaker 1: kicked it out of the end zone. You're coming out
Speaker 1: with it? Hey, you know how the kid our team
Speaker 1: they give points. What's printing the end zone? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: everything we played they were getting point because listen, they
Speaker 1: had this printing their ends because they knew I was
Speaker 1: coming out. So what would you say, are what's the
Speaker 1: best attribute to have if you are a returner? Is
Speaker 1: its speed? Is it vision? Is it quickness? And the losingness?
Speaker 1: What's the number one thing you need? I would say
Speaker 1: it's hard and there down to one, okay, because you
Speaker 1: gotta happen. You gotta happen. Okay, give me your most
Speaker 1: important Okay, give me give me the Okay, if there's
Speaker 1: four or five of them, give me the list of
Speaker 1: importance going one to five. So what's the number one
Speaker 1: things to me? Vision? Okay? Vision? One, two speed, okay,
Speaker 1: three the heart of a lion. Okay, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. A lot of people got speed, a lot
Speaker 1: of people got vision. But when they're trying to hit
Speaker 1: that whole and you got a hundred, and you look
Speaker 1: and then you you're looking up in the ball hangful.
Speaker 1: You got four five seconds and your clock, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, You got four five seconds of ball
Speaker 1: and that ball hanging up six seconds and you looking
Speaker 1: up a lot of people throw their hand up. They
Speaker 1: gonna thrown up you. Uh. And then you go back
Speaker 1: in the field room and you put your hand on
Speaker 1: you got the closest cotten on front you right, like
Speaker 1: what you're doing? Man, Listen, that ball were hanging too long? Man?
Speaker 1: So what once of your returns? What what was the return?
Speaker 1: Because I remember you played the game against the Broncos,
Speaker 1: and the Broncos were winning the entire game, they were dominating,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they made a mistake
Speaker 1: and they kicked two of them till you and you
Speaker 1: brought them both back. If you can have, if you
Speaker 1: have a game, what's your favorite game in which you
Speaker 1: brought a pot back or kick returning back? I would
Speaker 1: say probably my rookie year man against Arizona. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: when then had the incident. He said, they thought who
Speaker 1: he said it was you? You made you made him say, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was you to call that. Oh yeah
Speaker 1: it was in the least sh but yeah, man, I
Speaker 1: would say that game because we went in that we
Speaker 1: went into the half time down three to like twenty four.
Speaker 1: Man was beating out behind, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And then that's the time where that's that that two
Speaker 1: thousand and six season where we kind of depending on
Speaker 1: the defense and a special team pretty much carried us
Speaker 1: all the way to the Super Bowl. So offense was
Speaker 1: struggling and the Boys came out and had a great
Speaker 1: game plan and put twenty four points up quick on us.
Speaker 1: So we went in a half man and you know,
Speaker 1: as the Vestian guys kind of brought all the guys
Speaker 1: up and said, man, listen, we continue to fight. Man.
Speaker 1: We got a special team. Yea, we continue the fight.
Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gonna pull it out. Man. The defense
Speaker 1: started clicking, getting turn over left and right, and then
Speaker 1: shoot two miny two three minut left in the game,
Speaker 1: were down four or five points. It's put trying call.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking like it my tie to put on
Speaker 1: the shower. Now, ye, s mass your question. So let's
Speaker 1: just say, for the sake of argument, you're down, As
Speaker 1: you mentioned, you're down less than a touchdown, and you're like, man,
Speaker 1: we need a spark. Do you say to yourself subconsciously,
Speaker 1: I need to make it happen, or you just let
Speaker 1: it happen. You're like, I just do my thing, just
Speaker 1: let it happen organically. Are you telling yourself I need
Speaker 1: to make a play here? No, I'm telling myself. I
Speaker 1: can't wait for something like this to happen. I can't
Speaker 1: wait for us to be down four or five points
Speaker 1: and we need a big point. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be blowing the team. I want to be in a
Speaker 1: moment where I want to be that guy to say, well, listen,
Speaker 1: we need to touch that right now we're down. There's
Speaker 1: two many left to go in the game. Who we're
Speaker 1: gonna depend on right shooting? Oh? So we got this
Speaker 1: here right. That's the type of player I wanted to
Speaker 1: be my whole life. Man. I always look at saying
Speaker 1: to listen, man, it's on the two three players that
Speaker 1: I know as a kid that de terms an outcoming
Speaker 1: the game. I want to make one of those plays
Speaker 1: right when you go back and your returner, and you
Speaker 1: played with our pads. You had no thigh pads, you
Speaker 1: played with no knee pads. Why as a returner, I
Speaker 1: was a dog. I didn't care. I didn't care about
Speaker 1: getting hid. I just felt like I was Superman. To
Speaker 1: be honest, man, I didn't. I didn't fear nobody. And
Speaker 1: I was a type player where I would mean up
Speaker 1: the sideline and look at the coach like I dare
Speaker 1: you to kick it to me? And what about the kick.
Speaker 1: I'm on the sideline staring at him like I wish
Speaker 1: y'all would kicking me. That's how much comfortable I played with, man.
Speaker 1: And so your teammates know, like it's one thing player
Speaker 1: you know, play played with a Hall of Fame quarterback
Speaker 1: John Elway. I just knew. I felt very comfortable on
Speaker 1: a silk given Sunday that a we're gonna be okay
Speaker 1: when you they have you as a returner. They like, man,
Speaker 1: we're good. If we can't get these guys backed up,
Speaker 1: knowing that he can't angle it, he just gotta get
Speaker 1: it out. We got Devin Helster back there night night
Speaker 1: like night like playing Mike Tyson and the Prime Night
Speaker 1: Night Coach saying it coach, you don't you don't realize.
Speaker 1: When teams did kicking me, the ratio was every three
Speaker 1: kicks I touched, one on was going to the house, right.
Speaker 1: I was that hot my first two years at the
Speaker 1: three kicks one of was guaranteed to go to the
Speaker 1: he That was the ratio, right. Just imagine if I
Speaker 1: got these teams to kick me all eleven years of
Speaker 1: me playing, how how my stats would be? Crazy? Man?
Speaker 1: You gotta really I had like seven eight returns called back.
Speaker 1: That don't even counting my stats? Right. Well, I was
Speaker 1: well lest I was ready for them to kick on
Speaker 1: part return. So if I said you could only choose
Speaker 1: one kick off a punt returns, which one would you choose?
Speaker 1: I like punk returns. Well you like him, I can be.
Speaker 1: I could beat myself right, So kick off return we
Speaker 1: all know sideline right, sideline left, a middle return right, shoot,
Speaker 1: well return, I could put a little I could put
Speaker 1: a little crand bad juice, a little crystal sauce on that.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? To do what I do
Speaker 1: and then go back to the return right. So that
Speaker 1: was if let's just say, for the sake of artament
Speaker 1: DEVI they call we call a right return, and a
Speaker 1: lot of times I don't know how you guys did it,
Speaker 1: but we would set up to return towards our sideline
Speaker 1: because if you set it up the death sideline, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be calling it out. So we normally set the
Speaker 1: return up to our sideline so it was gonna be quiet.
Speaker 1: But the return up we never had a returner like
Speaker 1: you did you automatically like, okay, we gotta right return.
Speaker 1: I gotta make sure I get to the right, or
Speaker 1: you say, you know what, I'm wound trick him. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do a little dancing over here, pretend like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go left. I'm gonna start left a little ways,
Speaker 1: knowing that you're gonna get back to the right. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: See the when when me and coach they build a
Speaker 1: relationship where he really had confidence at me and was
Speaker 1: ever for me to force my opinion. I say, listen,
Speaker 1: whenever you want to touchdown, get double the gunners. I
Speaker 1: don't give a damn about the fat boys up front. Right,
Speaker 1: double the gunn and let me get started. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do what do what I do? And let all the
Speaker 1: returns go to the field. You let all the turns
Speaker 1: go to the field. I'm gonna find me a hole,
Speaker 1: right because I'm a great one. Right. Double the gunners,
Speaker 1: I don't care about the fat boy lead upon it
Speaker 1: and a long snapper. Do not block them too. That's
Speaker 1: a waste of the guy. Not block the lone snapper
Speaker 1: or the putner. Now we got actually got a block.
Speaker 1: So now that you now that you mentioned that, which
Speaker 1: is worse getting tackled by the long snapper or the
Speaker 1: partner or getting hold? Which one is worse? Yes? Getting
Speaker 1: halt listen if you'll get help. You know, man, listen,
Speaker 1: that's that sticks. That's a person like a fat person.
Speaker 1: You can't get Okay, who is right? So you see?
Speaker 1: Look you can say the punter had the anglog me.
Speaker 1: He pushed me out of the down out of bounds.
Speaker 1: He really didn't like the tackle. But what about the
Speaker 1: long what about the long snacker. It's a long snapper,
Speaker 1: same thing. He's just he's just gonna try to wall
Speaker 1: and push out about at nobody tightening you You mean
Speaker 1: they just gonna play the angle, You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: They hope somebody here ever come before I run past him?
Speaker 1: So war was your thought? You get a kicker, you slate.
Speaker 1: Let's just say you're five yards away from the kicker.
Speaker 1: What's going through your mind? Are you like, okay, i'most
Speaker 1: almost stuttering. I'm gonna take playing to the field and
Speaker 1: come back to the sideline. What's your thought process? How
Speaker 1: are you sitting him up? I'm gonna eat this ground up,
Speaker 1: eating the cushion up, because when I get up on him,
Speaker 1: so fat, he's just gonna sit right there right, He's
Speaker 1: gonna sit now like a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: speed guy. They try to take a angle too early. No,
Speaker 1: I'm eating up his cushion, right, I'm trying to get word.
Speaker 1: You keep that's straight stem you checking right at him.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go right at him, straight at him. So
Speaker 1: I get about two or three yards from m then
Speaker 1: him stick one way in the model up because he
Speaker 1: gonna sit. He might sit down. I don't have a
Speaker 1: couple of point of the car. I get up on him.
Speaker 1: They sit right down on the butt. Cain't go nowhere.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about it, teams not kicking.
Speaker 1: You mentioned teams that wouldn't kick you the football. We
Speaker 1: had the Jordan rules, they have the book came out.
Speaker 1: They would walk Barry Bonds back. You know, Tom Brady
Speaker 1: and Peyton Maddie. We gotta keep those guys on the
Speaker 1: sideline and make sure they don't have the ball. Think
Speaker 1: about it. Teams said, we are not kicking the ball
Speaker 1: to Devin Hester. We either kick it out of bounds
Speaker 1: or he's not touching the ball, so we take the
Speaker 1: penalty as opposed to kicking to the Devin Hester on
Speaker 1: the kickoff, or we just gonna put it out of bounds.
Speaker 1: Forget that hanging it up there for four or five seconds. No,
Speaker 1: put it out of bounds. Kick it out of bounds, well,
Speaker 1: definitely matter. You know, we even made commercials I'm kicking
Speaker 1: the ball in the late Mischian Late. You got boats
Speaker 1: out there waiting on the ball to come. Like we
Speaker 1: knew what teams were getting, man like. I even had
Speaker 1: punners come up to me before the game doing pregame
Speaker 1: one more like, man, you're gonna mess my stats up.
Speaker 1: The day I was averaging forty eight yards of punt.
Speaker 1: Now I'm finn to drop the thirty two because I
Speaker 1: gotta kick the ball out of bound twenty yard right. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: so the returner you could play DV In college, you
Speaker 1: played a little wide receiver and then you kind of
Speaker 1: transition says I want more this. Yeah. I love returning
Speaker 1: punts and kicked, but I believe I can do a
Speaker 1: little bit more on offense. What made you come to
Speaker 1: that decision that says I want to do more? It
Speaker 1: was because I wanted to be honest. Coach Love It
Speaker 1: brought that tell my attention the minute they start kicking
Speaker 1: away from him, and he was like, devn to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, man, you're probably and it got to
Speaker 1: be in the top two, top three more dynamic player
Speaker 1: with the ball in your hand in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: Right now, teams are kicking it out of bounds. I
Speaker 1: gotta find a way to get the ball in your hands.
Speaker 1: So the only way I could do that to move
Speaker 1: you over the offense. Right. And that's why I gotta
Speaker 1: moved over the offense because the punters and the team
Speaker 1: started kicking the ball to me. They would have kept
Speaker 1: kicking to me, I'd have just been I would probably
Speaker 1: stay at corner and been playing straight turn kick off
Speaker 1: turn right. But it also helped the contract because you said,
Speaker 1: I'm not just the returner. You know, I'm on the
Speaker 1: offense too, And I say, hey, y'all, hey, y'all need
Speaker 1: to factor that into that contract. Also, that's when I
Speaker 1: got that contract when they moved over to the offense.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to you. Let's go up back to
Speaker 1: you your younger years. You grew up in Florida. You
Speaker 1: lost your father the cancer, your mom was seriously injured
Speaker 1: an automobile accident. So what football was forced an outlet
Speaker 1: for you to deal with the pain and the trauma
Speaker 1: that you were going through as a as as a
Speaker 1: young man, I would say, so man like to be honest,
Speaker 1: I got attached to a guy named by the name
Speaker 1: of mister Thompson at first, which was he worked at
Speaker 1: the Boys Grid Club. Okay, what's the girl close? Was
Speaker 1: it literally right across the street from me? Okay? They
Speaker 1: knew our situation, right, So they knew my situation with
Speaker 1: my mom, they knew my father passed when I was y'all,
Speaker 1: So we didn't have to pay to go so right,
Speaker 1: we just jumped the gate and we just blend in
Speaker 1: with the rest of the kids, and so we played
Speaker 1: football and all that from the moment we got out
Speaker 1: of school to the time to go to sleep. You know.
Speaker 1: So the passion of football man in the neighborhood I
Speaker 1: grew up in, that's all we did, right. That's also
Speaker 1: that's all I knew was football, football, and all we
Speaker 1: did football, played football, and when I signed a flip
Speaker 1: backflips and all the type of stuff. Right. So, obviously
Speaker 1: you're a great high school player, you get an opportunity
Speaker 1: to go to the U. I'm sure you had other opportunities.
Speaker 1: What made you decide to go to the University of Miami, man,
Speaker 1: a lot of people that was in my situation where
Speaker 1: your mama made you go, my mama made you go
Speaker 1: to my you go to me. It was a couple
Speaker 1: of schools I wanted to go to, but my mom
Speaker 1: was like, listen here, we ain't got no money for
Speaker 1: no flights. We ain't got no money for no no traveling.
Speaker 1: And then plus, my brother played at FIU, right, so
Speaker 1: FIU was like a ten minute drive from our campus,
Speaker 1: so we was able to be close to each other. Mean,
Speaker 1: my brothers, they would be close to each other. And
Speaker 1: then you know, at the same time, there was a
Speaker 1: winning program and like I said, it was ranking the
Speaker 1: top three, top four in the nation. So at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, man, it was it was a
Speaker 1: great decision. I feel that, you know, me being close
Speaker 1: to home and being close to everybody. So that was
Speaker 1: the reason why I went to the youth. You said,
Speaker 1: there are other schools that you wanted to go to.
Speaker 1: What were some of the schools that Devin Hester wanted
Speaker 1: to go to. Wanted to a teen, I wanted to
Speaker 1: go to either and she stayed. At the time, they
Speaker 1: had Philip Rivers, right, and they look at the time,
Speaker 1: they're ranked like in the top fourteen, fifteen in the nation.
Speaker 1: And I knew I was gonna come in right there
Speaker 1: and play right away, right. I knew that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. That was It wasn't it wasn't a
Speaker 1: thought about that, you know, going to like miam and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You know, with those types of g
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to sit out of here. It ain't
Speaker 1: number five star players in that locker room, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So to go to a top fifteen
Speaker 1: ranked team and they just lost a position that you
Speaker 1: coming in and feeling and be that man guy. And
Speaker 1: they already told me listen, you can't hear your brother coming.
Speaker 1: We got all good. So I wanted to go to
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to the NC State that was
Speaker 1: my number one school, but at in Miami, and Miami
Speaker 1: offered me like when I was a freshman in high
Speaker 1: school man. So I felt like I had to kind
Speaker 1: of be lord to those guys. And I had a
Speaker 1: cousin that played for him too, so it was in
Speaker 1: my blood to go that ure. There was a story
Speaker 1: and you can expand on this, that you had to
Speaker 1: sit out in the first year at the University of
Speaker 1: Miami because they believe you didn't take the SAT tell
Speaker 1: the story. So that story went down like you know,
Speaker 1: like when you start getting notarized, right you okay? You
Speaker 1: that that that athlete that I said, oh wow, this
Speaker 1: kid here got potention. Right, They started making early You
Speaker 1: gonna wait till your senior year, right, So I started
Speaker 1: doing the purple of my sophomore year, took the test
Speaker 1: my junior year, right, Ye, gotta school qualified, defa, everything qualified.
Speaker 1: So my whole senior now I had to do on
Speaker 1: my DF all my test scores and everything was done.
Speaker 1: I didn't remember abody taking I didn't take no SAT
Speaker 1: or nothing. My whole senior I got my test scores
Speaker 1: back and everything. So if you if your SAT get questions,
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all know that, but your SAT
Speaker 1: score get questions, you do not get it back. Right.
Speaker 1: They seen you're letting them and say we found some
Speaker 1: specious things going on. We want you to retake it.
Speaker 1: I got my SAT scores back, right, So my whole
Speaker 1: senior year I was qualified dpay with like a three
Speaker 1: point one, three point my three point two, so I
Speaker 1: was good. Just no, no, no where about no school
Speaker 1: or that. So on my college visit, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know that story, but only school and then
Speaker 1: offers scholarship with sc That's the only school I never
Speaker 1: I got, never got a four right, everybody else I
Speaker 1: could have went to. Right. So I went on the
Speaker 1: college visit and one of the coaches wanted me real bad.
Speaker 1: So I promised him I would take a visit. You know,
Speaker 1: if you get five visits, So I promise I would
Speaker 1: take a visit there, you know, and visit him and
Speaker 1: really get him a shot, because he really was trying
Speaker 1: hard to get me. And then when that time got
Speaker 1: close to the announced where I was going. I said, coach,
Speaker 1: you know I say, I had all the recruiters, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You was the one that was done, really,
Speaker 1: really working hard to get me. I appreciate your situation
Speaker 1: and what you were trying to do, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go ahead and sign with University of Mine. So he
Speaker 1: got up set. He started calling my phone every every
Speaker 1: two hours, going off. So I said, you know this
Speaker 1: is getting out of hand. I'm gonna let you deal
Speaker 1: with my parents because at first I was dealing when
Speaker 1: I ain't telling my mama, but I was dealing with him,
Speaker 1: and so I said, you know what, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: ahead and let my mama deal this this. So my
Speaker 1: mama got the phone and she went off on him,
Speaker 1: and he called one more time. I answer the phone.
Speaker 1: He said, you know what, if you don't come here,
Speaker 1: I promise you you would never see it down in
Speaker 1: football in your life. So that's when I said, now
Speaker 1: you're threatening me. So I hung upon on them. We
Speaker 1: blocked their phone. Them all that I get to the
Speaker 1: Universe of Minami, I have to sign them with him.
Speaker 1: I check in the doing room everything, I'm good everything.
Speaker 1: The next day for a practice, my counsel. Come to me.
Speaker 1: He said, Davin, we got a problem. I said, what's
Speaker 1: going on? He said, some some lik some stuff going
Speaker 1: on with the NCUBA about you. It's nothing you should
Speaker 1: have to everybody now you're good. And so they when
Speaker 1: I got down there, we got on the phone with
Speaker 1: the NCAA. They said there's been something some phone calls
Speaker 1: about course in your SAT scores. And I said, okay, well,
Speaker 1: what's the problem. They said, with your answers man, somebody
Speaker 1: that's sitting besides the answers. And I said, well, what
Speaker 1: did they get? And they had like a I think
Speaker 1: they scored like a eight eighty. I said, what did
Speaker 1: I get? I think I scored like a nine seventy? Right,
Speaker 1: So I said, who we're cheating on? Who paper there?
Speaker 1: If he scored at eight eight to nine seventy, my
Speaker 1: score is high in here. Who who y'all think cheating?
Speaker 1: They said, they feel like you're achieved. So it was
Speaker 1: up to universe and Miami to say, you know what,
Speaker 1: we're gonna disregard that. And because it was up to
Speaker 1: the universe of mine and said we gonna set these
Speaker 1: scores well or not or not? Because right now y'all
Speaker 1: don't have no proven fact. So Miami was at the
Speaker 1: point where they when they went to the national championship
Speaker 1: in Ohio State and they lost in Ohio States. So
Speaker 1: if I would have played that year and they would
Speaker 1: have kept investigating, if they would have found something that
Speaker 1: was out of the ordinary, Miami would have been suspended.
Speaker 1: So Miami said, you know what, we can take a
Speaker 1: risk of to let you play and then week six
Speaker 1: or seven they come back and say it's not right,
Speaker 1: or we can sit you on and they just come
Speaker 1: back the next year and play. And so when that happened,
Speaker 1: I had a bunch of teams like, listen, we we
Speaker 1: got ready done into that. That situation, We're ready to
Speaker 1: take it. It's nothing they can do about that situation.
Speaker 1: Getual scores, you score high in that person, there's nothing
Speaker 1: they can do about it. But Miami saying, no, we're
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. And then they was like, and
Speaker 1: I told him about the situation, and they were like,
Speaker 1: listen that we just got too much lose. I will
Speaker 1: promise you this if you if you if you just
Speaker 1: have faith in us next year and you come in,
Speaker 1: we would not get the jersey away. So they set
Speaker 1: my jersey and number four up because everybody was trying
Speaker 1: to get it. They said, no, we're not gonna hand
Speaker 1: out in jersey, gonna show him that we were law
Speaker 1: and we'll bring him in next year. And that's what happened.
Speaker 1: So that was you believe that that coach at the
Speaker 1: the recruit at the universe at USC. You believe he
Speaker 1: had something to do with this. No, not not USC,
Speaker 1: because USC then recruiting. Okay, USC, they were USC. It
Speaker 1: was the only school that then offer middle fort scholarship
Speaker 1: at all the colleges was on the school. But it
Speaker 1: was a college that I was, you know, getting recruited back.
Speaker 1: Don't you don't you don't want to reveal that college.
Speaker 1: You've been saying that you ye, yeah, I'm good. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna let that go. I did. I went. My
Speaker 1: first time I touched the ball of orange bowl, I
Speaker 1: took it nine to two yards back for a touchdown. Right.
Speaker 1: I took my helm and off stairs in the camera. Right.
Speaker 1: I just wanted him look me in my faith. That's all.
Speaker 1: That's why I did that. If you if you go
Speaker 1: back my first time touching the ball in the orange
Speaker 1: I took a ninety two yards kick off back to
Speaker 1: open a kick off of the game. I took my
Speaker 1: home and all going in, hands on, looking at looking
Speaker 1: at the camera, stared at him just so he can
Speaker 1: see my faith. That's how I got him back though.
Speaker 1: So we're good now. You didn't play you in tire
Speaker 1: for you? Didn't you? So you weren't allowed to practice?
Speaker 1: Were you allowed to meet? Were you allowed to go
Speaker 1: into cafeteria with the play? How did you stay in shape?
Speaker 1: So basically you were like a regular college student. I
Speaker 1: didn't even go to school. I didn't go to school. Man.
Speaker 1: I went home. Wow, I went home. I went home. Man,
Speaker 1: Listen that that drive home, Man felt like I was
Speaker 1: getting sentenced to fifteen to twenty years in prison. Man,
Speaker 1: right Like it was like my whole life was just gone.
Speaker 1: And it was like it ain't nothing I can do
Speaker 1: about it. Man. When I pulled out to my driveway,
Speaker 1: Man and looked at the front door and just thought
Speaker 1: about it, Like, Man, everybody that comes from this error,
Speaker 1: if you don't go to college, Man, you know what
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen to you. You feelna get caught up, right,
Speaker 1: you FeelA get caught up? Man? And you're looking at
Speaker 1: that though, I say, boy, it's over for me. So
Speaker 1: I literally like, I literally like when I got in
Speaker 1: that when I once I walked through that dough man,
Speaker 1: I went to my room, closed the door. I don't
Speaker 1: think I ate. I don't think I ate or slept
Speaker 1: for like two or three weeks straight. I didn't not
Speaker 1: come out the room for a whole month. My Mama
Speaker 1: made me. She like, damn, you gotta get up, man,
Speaker 1: you gotta get up. Baby. You can't do this, You
Speaker 1: cannot do this. You gotta fight, man, like I live.
Speaker 1: I stayed in the room for two three weeks straight
Speaker 1: without eating and then come out of the room for
Speaker 1: a whole month. I was sick, man like, everything I
Speaker 1: worked for got taken away. Just don't like that that easy, right,
Speaker 1: I would hurt him, man. So mom said, damn, you
Speaker 1: gotta you can't give up. You gotta fight. So once
Speaker 1: she tells you that, not what's going, what's what's your
Speaker 1: thought process? I gotta train. I gotta make sure that
Speaker 1: when I go back, I'm in shape. I'm ready to
Speaker 1: go to say let them know that I haven't been
Speaker 1: just sitting around. Right. So what happened was my mom
Speaker 1: called the high my high school coach and was like, man,
Speaker 1: y'all gotta find something for them to do till the
Speaker 1: time for them go back. So my coach, man, he
Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, listen, we need to work. You say, brain,
Speaker 1: you show I kept everything. Brain, you showed up fast
Speaker 1: and you have him and and come practice with did
Speaker 1: you give us work? And why are you giving another works?
Speaker 1: You're gonna get to keep yourself in shape. So I
Speaker 1: started going back to my high school and being on
Speaker 1: the scout team to make those guys better. Man. And
Speaker 1: I only did I make them better, I was able
Speaker 1: to stay in shape, right, And that's I really stayed
Speaker 1: in shape. Man. I went back to high school, Man,
Speaker 1: I have to graduate, and went back practicing with him
Speaker 1: being on the scout team. Man, so what's the best
Speaker 1: feeling part? Return? Touchdown, kick return touchdown, interception, rushing touchdown,
Speaker 1: receiving touchdown. I said, Devin helps you. This this is
Speaker 1: what you this is this one. You have one of
Speaker 1: these today? Which one you want? Return and touchdown? That's
Speaker 1: your that's your that's your bag. Then returned TV. Yeah,
Speaker 1: punt return to that man, because you know and said
Speaker 1: you pick pick picking in round twelve thirteen yards and
Speaker 1: the end of the return man you a in the
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere by yourself, and when that ball get
Speaker 1: in your hands, other people around you, and when you
Speaker 1: come up out that hole and you hit that sideline,
Speaker 1: And then you showed them folks how you really fast
Speaker 1: you will and you open up while somebody's sitting up
Speaker 1: in the hot span and they see how fast you
Speaker 1: really run it. Oh yeah, that's what I like to show.
Speaker 1: You told the story earlier about how you didn't get
Speaker 1: an opportunity to play much your junior year on the
Speaker 1: defensive side of football. You're mainly a returner because the
Speaker 1: coach didn't like some of the things that it transpired
Speaker 1: your siphomore year with the accolades that you had start
Speaker 1: you had started to receive. So you make the decision
Speaker 1: that you're gonna come out. You go to the combine,
Speaker 1: you run four for it and some Nike Air Max
Speaker 1: and you pull a hamstring. You're like, damn, all the
Speaker 1: things that could have happened. I didn't really play, didn't
Speaker 1: really played the I didn't play at all on the
Speaker 1: defensive side of football, And now here I am at
Speaker 1: the combine and I pull up. No, no, I put,
Speaker 1: I pulled up. I had a port hand strength going
Speaker 1: into the Okay. So that's why I wasn't supposed to run.
Speaker 1: That's why I didn't Brandon Cleach because I want to
Speaker 1: him that, you know, my proteins in two weeks, man,
Speaker 1: I just tweaked my hamming. Man, I'm not ready to run.
Speaker 1: And when I got him aboard the press conference and
Speaker 1: you know, we had I had my interview with all
Speaker 1: the teams, and the biggest thing with me, what is
Speaker 1: he gonna running? Afford it. That was my biggest That
Speaker 1: was everybody wanted to really see me going into the
Speaker 1: draft was how fast this was? This kid is really is.
Speaker 1: And so when I told him I wasn't running at
Speaker 1: the combine, boy got so quiet in there. Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: but it's not it's not good news. So after leaving
Speaker 1: the first conference, my agent blowing me up. He say, listen, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know what she's gonna do, but listen, these
Speaker 1: folks want to see you run. Man. I don't I know,
Speaker 1: I don't know how bad it is, but listen, just
Speaker 1: do it. Trying to say you know what, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm anout to just come out, come out slow,
Speaker 1: and just roll into it right. And that's what I did.
Speaker 1: I came out slow and rolled into it and just
Speaker 1: try to kick it at the end, and I end
Speaker 1: run like a four four flat. And then two weeks
Speaker 1: later I end up run a full two sign at
Speaker 1: the poll day. So I was able to make it up.
Speaker 1: So if you if you had runned the combine and
Speaker 1: Devin Health is fully healthy, how fast do you believe
Speaker 1: you ran that forty that day? Oh? Any beautiful two?
Speaker 1: Any beautiful too? So if I take that, if I
Speaker 1: take Devin Health to Addive Prime, and I take Tyreek
Speaker 1: Addive Prime, who went in the party? Man? Tyreek ran
Speaker 1: with a full three side? Tyreek is a track guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your track guy? Right? I got four on football speed.
Speaker 1: I ain't. I ain't gonna watch. I ain't no track guy.
Speaker 1: But forty yard day, yeah, man, listen, man, I ran
Speaker 1: the fastest ten yards split. Ain't miam in history. I
Speaker 1: ran on one three four in a ten yard my
Speaker 1: freshman year. Bro. They would not tell me my time
Speaker 1: and afforded because they said I was too young. I
Speaker 1: DJ William If you know DJ William, ye will getting
Speaker 1: Clark running Florida. They told me the time that I
Speaker 1: ran was never ran as a true friendly, so they
Speaker 1: did not tell me what my time would I would
Speaker 1: run a foll three threes at a sophomore in high
Speaker 1: school at the night he camp, man, I knew I
Speaker 1: would have ran every foll two. So you believe, So
Speaker 1: you believe in your prime you'd beat Tyreek and the party. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, man, that a number right there. Oh yeah, man,
Speaker 1: very bud of full two. Man. So you get to
Speaker 1: the league, obviously you wish you'd had the situation now
Speaker 1: where you could have had any number you walked through
Speaker 1: one through forty nine, because you'd have had number four
Speaker 1: and the Chicago number. Yeah, oh yeah, I was gonna
Speaker 1: get that, folle. So you're you're touching your TV celebration
Speaker 1: one goes into a devil because you did a lot
Speaker 1: of the celebrations you did with d was the imitation
Speaker 1: of d On. What made what made you decide to
Speaker 1: do that day and time with Dion sand went to
Speaker 1: Florida State, Uh, the seminars, you go to Florida, you
Speaker 1: you got had some some serious right that was a
Speaker 1: serious rival back in from the eighties to the nineties,
Speaker 1: and said, y'all don't even really play each other. Both
Speaker 1: teams are falling on hard times now, So what made
Speaker 1: you decide to do that celebration? Man? Did like, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like true Florida football players,
Speaker 1: we should respect the old js that that played a
Speaker 1: game right with Okay, So Dan was a person that
Speaker 1: was from Florida that everybody respected, regardless of what team
Speaker 1: you went to. Dan actually started mentoring me when I
Speaker 1: was in college, Okay. You know, like we was texting
Speaker 1: back and forth when I was in college as a mentor,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So this wasn't something that
Speaker 1: that happened once I got in the league. Right, my
Speaker 1: first part one first down, I was hot stepping. So
Speaker 1: this is my favorite player from from part one, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it was only you know,
Speaker 1: the only fail for me to continue to do it, man,
Speaker 1: because that's why I that's why I wanted to be
Speaker 1: growing up. Obviously, you go to the Bears your rookie year,
Speaker 1: they have an outstanding season, end up going to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Did you when you're on that team and
Speaker 1: you're in training camp and you're going to this through
Speaker 1: the season, did you think you guys had the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber team. I would say we when we start
Speaker 1: feeling like that had to be like week eight, eight
Speaker 1: to nine, I think we had. We We went in
Speaker 1: like Week eight or nine, were like eight on one,
Speaker 1: like we were rolling defense. I never seen the NFL
Speaker 1: where at half time to start defense and take out
Speaker 1: the shoulder pat and it's a regular season game right now,
Speaker 1: preseason I had a regular season game and you putting
Speaker 1: up forty eight fourty eight points on the team, four
Speaker 1: to eight zero, and at halftime you're taking all your
Speaker 1: shoulder pat. You knew you had sons special? Did Were
Speaker 1: you surprised that coach Dunge kicked actually kicked you the
Speaker 1: ball in the super knowing what you had done in
Speaker 1: the regular season, where you like, I know, I know, good, well,
Speaker 1: they just didn't kick me this ball. I think it
Speaker 1: was a pride thing with that situation. I think they
Speaker 1: were just pride for you know it because it was
Speaker 1: in the paper all week. You know, we read papers
Speaker 1: a lot about what team's gonna do as far as
Speaker 1: kicking the ball, because that was always the number one
Speaker 1: key to success of being the Bears was kicking. Whether
Speaker 1: they're gonna do what they're gonna kick him or not.
Speaker 1: So we read the papers the whole week, and you know,
Speaker 1: like one day they said they're doing it, then the
Speaker 1: next day they say they decided not. So they didn't
Speaker 1: have a good day and pride on a special team.
Speaker 1: So lean up to the to the game. I'm apparently
Speaker 1: coach Doney got a locker room and the players told
Speaker 1: him that, you know what I mean, if we don't
Speaker 1: kick it to him, you just we don't kick it
Speaker 1: to them. You're just telling us that you don't have
Speaker 1: faith in us. So they put his back against he
Speaker 1: didn't have Yeah, they asked him. I appreciate it though,
Speaker 1: but after that I appreciate after that they didn't kick
Speaker 1: it to you again, No move man, So you get
Speaker 1: to open and kickoff, you take it back? What's going
Speaker 1: through your mind? You're like, you not only we win
Speaker 1: this game, I'm gonna be the MVP. I just took
Speaker 1: the open the kickoff back. That ain't happened about because
Speaker 1: you know, once you get that first with early, you're
Speaker 1: thinking I might get two any things, I might get
Speaker 1: three any thing. But listen, I hadn't got to the
Speaker 1: sideline and the little media to do it I say,
Speaker 1: how much it? Didn't you paying for the MVP, I'll
Speaker 1: get ready to go to be the real said, hey,
Speaker 1: I started, I want they're paying for the MVP. So
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden they start kicking the ball away.
Speaker 1: So when team will start kicking the ball away, did
Speaker 1: you get frustrated? How did you remain composed? How did
Speaker 1: you make it like well and not forced it? Because
Speaker 1: a lot of times guys try to do too much.
Speaker 1: You see, all of a sudden, they start they don't
Speaker 1: punt the ball tea, they don't kick the ball to you,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, in a situation where
Speaker 1: you should fair catch it or you shouldn't let the
Speaker 1: ball go into the end zone, you start the press
Speaker 1: trying to do too much. Yeah I did. I went
Speaker 1: through that phase where I started doing that and I
Speaker 1: cast like one or two fumbles, one or two turnovers,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then I got pulled
Speaker 1: to the side of my coach. I'm like, listen, man,
Speaker 1: you gotta take what they give you. You cannot force
Speaker 1: nothing NFL, because you're gonna cause us to lose a game.
Speaker 1: And it was hard for me because I'm used to
Speaker 1: you know what, I mean these kick out the points man,
Speaker 1: and then all the sudden you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you should take back a game. I go in the
Speaker 1: locker room after the game over the clean uniform on.
Speaker 1: I ain't like that. I wanted to see some dirty
Speaker 1: things on my pants. Man. So you end up transitioning
Speaker 1: you doing something some wide receiver doing your full time duties.
Speaker 1: How difficult was it or were you getting some wide
Speaker 1: receiver because I'm assuming that on scout team you are
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, because you know that's the way normally works.
Speaker 1: Guys that are not starters, they give their the show
Speaker 1: team or what we call the scout team for the
Speaker 1: starting offense or the starting defense. So did you, I'm
Speaker 1: assuming that you played wide receiver or were you playing
Speaker 1: defense on the scout team. Listen saying coach saying, you
Speaker 1: gotta realize back in the day I was I was
Speaker 1: Chicago secret weather. So scout team was a will be
Speaker 1: getting hurt. So when they when that temper you know,
Speaker 1: I'm from Florida, So when that temperature dropped like fifty
Speaker 1: degrees and the team warm up, I'm in the bubble
Speaker 1: catching punts the whole price. What and when that whiston.
Speaker 1: When that whistle blow, I come out there and we
Speaker 1: break it up. Not going the locker room. That was
Speaker 1: a problem. Hold man, what kind of job you asking?
Speaker 1: How are you gonna how are you gonna be in
Speaker 1: the bubble catching pumps? Then they called you out there
Speaker 1: the catch punps. But when the special teams are up
Speaker 1: and then you're in the locker room. But listen, but listen,
Speaker 1: I was a secret weather back in the day. Listen,
Speaker 1: it is true. Teen warm up, teen stretched it once
Speaker 1: it hit fifty. Once they break it up. The individual
Speaker 1: me and like two other little equipment ball guys, we're
Speaker 1: going straight to the boat. And then he dare we cared?
Speaker 1: I cared about two three hundred points shoot and then
Speaker 1: I tell him, man, get listen, get my heads up
Speaker 1: on fifteen man left over pray. They called, They called
Speaker 1: on the water talking, hey, we got ten more minute left.
Speaker 1: We started making our way back to the field. So
Speaker 1: that was that. That was what you man. You So
Speaker 1: that's why you were fresh your Sunday. You ain't doing that.
Speaker 1: You ain't doing m a catch points and he kick
Speaker 1: off in the bubble and then it ain't come Sunday.
Speaker 1: Your legs super duper fresh Chris catching points and doing them.
Speaker 1: Sit up man in the bubble. So Dad, you you mentioned,
Speaker 1: you mentioned your mom, and I think you said you
Speaker 1: have you have two other brothers, right, I got one.
Speaker 1: I got an older brother and younger sister. Your older brother,
Speaker 1: younger sister. So you get this big contract obviously coming
Speaker 1: from the situation. A lot of us professional athletes come
Speaker 1: from very similar, very very similar situations. What was one
Speaker 1: of the things that you say, you know, what, if
Speaker 1: I ever get me some money, I'm gonna get this.
Speaker 1: And when you got that money, you got back. Yeah. Shoot,
Speaker 1: first thing I did I built my mom my house. Okay,
Speaker 1: because I knew at the end of the day, but
Speaker 1: it's all this money running out. I got someone, I
Speaker 1: got someone. Yeah, yeah, you gotta get you gotta get mama. Granted.
Speaker 1: Place I go where it's come to show up. I'm
Speaker 1: going back there in that back room, granted is exactly Listen.
Speaker 1: I built my mom my house, and I built a
Speaker 1: special stair staircase stairway up to my room. I had.
Speaker 1: I built the room just for me in that house,
Speaker 1: just in case, just in case. What was your worst
Speaker 1: What was the worst thing you like, you wanted it,
Speaker 1: and then you're like you gotta eat Like, man, what
Speaker 1: the hell was I think in getting this man a
Speaker 1: mold of cycle. Hey, I don't nobody to know it,
Speaker 1: but hey, listen, I got a motorcycle my second year
Speaker 1: in the league. Man snug it. I headed the ground
Speaker 1: me and to us teammates. Ain't gonna say no name
Speaker 1: because I want to get nobody in trouble. But really
Speaker 1: they can't do nothing right now because we ain't get
Speaker 1: hurt of that. But I bought a motorcycle, man, And listen,
Speaker 1: I used to set my along for like three o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning, straight to the highway. I was just
Speaker 1: I was just drilling on man. I just love speed. Man,
Speaker 1: you ad a motorcycle when you were young? Yeah, because
Speaker 1: that's all we did in the neighborhood. I grew up
Speaker 1: in there. All everybody had dirt bikes. Go God, car right,
Speaker 1: I said, brother, get some money off and getting you
Speaker 1: a dirt bike out motorcycle. Son, You mentioned that you
Speaker 1: back to the field, you mentioned that, Lovey Lovey Smith,
Speaker 1: your head coach at the time, said Davin, they're not
Speaker 1: kicking the ball till you. We need to find a
Speaker 1: way to make sure that you get an opportunity to
Speaker 1: get the ball. So he says, you know what would
Speaker 1: you be probably asking, like, would you be interested in
Speaker 1: trying to get wide receiver? What was the most difficult thing, because,
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, you were mainly just catching punts in
Speaker 1: the bubble, catching kickoffs in the bubble, and then when
Speaker 1: practice almost over, you go back out there. So one
Speaker 1: was the toughest part about transitioning because playing college wide
Speaker 1: receiver is one thing. Playing wide receiver in the NFL
Speaker 1: is a totally different ball game. It's totally different to PC.
Speaker 1: People don't don't know that, Like if you haven't played
Speaker 1: a game of football to you don't know how. You
Speaker 1: just think you could just transition all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: That's like Tea trying to trans tight in Like you
Speaker 1: you gotta be you gotta be doing this stuffy Park
Speaker 1: at least, right, you know what I mean? I played
Speaker 1: no wide receiving in high school, Park and maybe two
Speaker 1: games of college. That's all I played wid receivers. So
Speaker 1: me going over to wire receiver was like me transferring
Speaker 1: over to playing hockey. Had no clue with a lot
Speaker 1: of right, you know what I mean? I ain't two
Speaker 1: yards split outside. The number is what you run when
Speaker 1: you line up, when you running curve up. These a
Speaker 1: thing that people do. They learned this in high school.
Speaker 1: Like I had to learn the basics of wire receivers.
Speaker 1: So me trying to do that at the highest level
Speaker 1: of football, you know what I mean. I was out there.
Speaker 1: My head was spinning, man, right, And then people don't
Speaker 1: realize when I when I moved the wide receiver, I
Speaker 1: went through like I like eight years. We had like
Speaker 1: six new offensive coordinators, right, so I couldn't for me
Speaker 1: trying to figure out where to line up. The other
Speaker 1: part I was learning the playboard, right, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, the basics, because like I said, at the
Speaker 1: eight years of the Chicago playing wide receiver, we had
Speaker 1: like six different offensive coordinators. So every new offensive playboard
Speaker 1: coming in, right, and you waiting behind the eight and guys,
Speaker 1: people don't understand it's a different game. They putting hands
Speaker 1: on you in the NFL. They're not just letting you
Speaker 1: run down the field now that you're not used to.
Speaker 1: Are getting on press release and all that. Exactly know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I was able to put a little
Speaker 1: bit because of the speeding of the I end that
Speaker 1: I had. But shoot, man, it was a it was
Speaker 1: a nice dog fight for me out there. You want
Speaker 1: to said, Jay Cutler is the worst leader you've ever
Speaker 1: played with. Why would you say that? I would? I
Speaker 1: think just because his leadership, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I had an interview with this earlier about about three
Speaker 1: or four years ago. And what people didn't say. They
Speaker 1: said what they wanted to say about the situation of
Speaker 1: how the interview went, but they didn't say the part
Speaker 1: where I said, to me, out of all the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: I played with an experience being around, he to me,
Speaker 1: Jake Cutler had to He had knowledge of the game,
Speaker 1: was better than anybody. His own strength for the game
Speaker 1: was better than anybody. His accuracy was better than anybody
Speaker 1: ever played with. Like all the two athletic wi he
Speaker 1: was an athletic quarterback. People don't realize that Jake and Shake.
Speaker 1: Jay can run, Jay can played basketball, Jay can do
Speaker 1: everything right. It just the leadership he lacked. And that's why,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: people judge him off what he is right now because
Speaker 1: the leadership. He just didn't know how to associate with
Speaker 1: the player. He didn't bund everybody together and be that
Speaker 1: that leader that a quarterback is why when it comes
Speaker 1: to vocaland pick, you know, picking everybody's spirit up when
Speaker 1: they then down, or you need somebody, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like quarterback should be that guy that gives
Speaker 1: you confident, right, that's what he lacked. It seems to
Speaker 1: me from the outside looking in, and it might not
Speaker 1: be true, but he looked like a guy that didn't
Speaker 1: love the game of football. And if you don't, I'm
Speaker 1: sure there have been guys. But you got to fool them,
Speaker 1: those guys in the locker room that are around you
Speaker 1: every day. Dad, you know this. You can't fool them. Now.
Speaker 1: They might can fool the media. They might can fool
Speaker 1: the fans, because the media only gives access to your
Speaker 1: thirty minutes a day. The fans only see you on
Speaker 1: television if they come to the stadium. But when you're
Speaker 1: around a guy nine ten hours a day, six seven
Speaker 1: days a week, three four or five ten years, that
Speaker 1: got the guys know you and you can't fool him.
Speaker 1: You can't fool them. You can't fool your teammates. You
Speaker 1: can fool a lot of other people, but you can't
Speaker 1: fool them. Yeah, I would say he didn't. Then I
Speaker 1: felt like he loved a game. But like I said,
Speaker 1: I don't know how he was raised, but he's like
Speaker 1: he was. He's like staying dolfish, like he's like, what's
Speaker 1: the only kid in the house, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like if you have kids, don't have We didn't have
Speaker 1: no friends. I don't know what it was, but he
Speaker 1: didn't never open up to nobody. But he made me
Speaker 1: like one two guys that he talked to and other
Speaker 1: that he singered out away from everybody, right, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it was hard, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean for a court for you know, offenses
Speaker 1: to listening and and buying them with him because he
Speaker 1: just kept himself away from everybody man and wasn't wasn't
Speaker 1: friendly about it. But his relationship. He knew Brandon Marshall
Speaker 1: from Denver and he threw Brandon a lot of balls
Speaker 1: when he was in Denver. Brandon comes to Chicago, he
Speaker 1: throws it me the marl balls. Did you feel that
Speaker 1: had some impact? Oh? Yeah, most definitely that that relationship
Speaker 1: they had, man, it was it was like they had
Speaker 1: a relationship where what I can say there was almost
Speaker 1: like brothers, you know what I mean. They he was
Speaker 1: Jay was used to Brandon Marshall. The type of ways
Speaker 1: he was. He was, I think they was. Jay was
Speaker 1: a little afraid of the Brandon. They were getting an
Speaker 1: arguments in practice, and Be Marshall wouldn't get a certain
Speaker 1: amount of balls in practice, and he would go off
Speaker 1: on Jay and they would sit there and argua back
Speaker 1: and forth and cause a big scene. It's crazy, man.
Speaker 1: Julie Cover had a bet in practice one day, you know,
Speaker 1: because all I did at that time, I was just
Speaker 1: doing kick off a point return. So I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: on the defense sideline watching and I say, Julie's you
Speaker 1: want to make a bet? So he looked at you know,
Speaker 1: Julia kind of caught. He looked at what's ahead. I say, listen,
Speaker 1: if Jay Cutler throw Brandon and Marsha the ball. Because
Speaker 1: I already I seen him r before practice. I already
Speaker 1: knew what time with Jay was going him to ball.
Speaker 1: The whole part. I say, if Jay throw Be Marshall
Speaker 1: the ball, I give you one hundred dollars every time
Speaker 1: you're throwing the ball, right, No, I say you no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I said if he don't know, I say, Jude, if
Speaker 1: Jay throw Be Marsha the ball, you gotta give me
Speaker 1: fifted off. Right. If he don't thought it to be Marshall,
Speaker 1: I give you one hundred dollars. So now you got
Speaker 1: the upper hand. If you don't thought it to be Marshall,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you a hundred dollars. But every time
Speaker 1: you thought it to be Marshall, you gotta get me
Speaker 1: fifted out. He looked at me, said, Okay, I like that.
Speaker 1: Bet bet the judging through it to be marshed over
Speaker 1: twenty times in a row. It got to the point
Speaker 1: where the whole like dawn, I said, Hight, the receiver
Speaker 1: to the other side, didn't even want a route. We
Speaker 1: just looking. He's just looking at me, Mark Be Marsha.
Speaker 1: Ain't even no saying go by. He thought to him
Speaker 1: this ten this is like really ten seconds, I ain't
Speaker 1: saying like, oh exaggerated right, jailed up, he covered he
Speaker 1: coming back to the mark like. It got to the
Speaker 1: point where we're looking at the coach like y'all really
Speaker 1: litting it go on, y'all gonna say anything, y'all just
Speaker 1: gonna let this happen. Y'all just gonna let this happen.
Speaker 1: And it went one of the moment with him and
Speaker 1: Be Marshall got into it before Pride, and that's how
Speaker 1: practice went. So it's almost like B Marsha was doing
Speaker 1: that on purpose, getting getting argument, knowing that Jay's gonna
Speaker 1: feed him. He's gonna feed him. He's gonna feed him.
Speaker 1: You played with Matt Ryan, You went to Atlanta, played
Speaker 1: with Matt Ryan, Julio. M What do you what do
Speaker 1: you think? What do you think of their combination? Played
Speaker 1: with Jay and B marsh Matt Ryan and Julio? What
Speaker 1: do you who had the better combination? I think I
Speaker 1: think Matt had the better combination with who are your cousin?
Speaker 1: The both of them that had that mentality where they
Speaker 1: had issues. Right be Marsha gaining man, he ain't getting
Speaker 1: certain amount of ball? Who do you want? F Hulo
Speaker 1: was fine as long as we win the game, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I know sometimes I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: the Devin curved. I need some of the other receivers
Speaker 1: to eat so next game I can get get my shop. Right,
Speaker 1: Be Marshall the type with I don't care if I
Speaker 1: get devil covered. You better throw me the ball right
Speaker 1: then Jay had hit it and the way he was
Speaker 1: and would just open itself up with people. And then
Speaker 1: Matt was a person. Matt Ryan was a person. He
Speaker 1: didn't give it them who who he threw the ball too.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take what the defense give me, right. So
Speaker 1: that's why when I got the Atlanta like shoot, I
Speaker 1: had to split rip RUPs with the slot receiver man
Speaker 1: and Harry Duckler was splitting ups and both of us
Speaker 1: had over six hundred yards that year. So Matt, if
Speaker 1: one of us would have just been playing, would have
Speaker 1: easily had over twelve hundred yards in the slot position
Speaker 1: the third se because he was the type of quarterfine,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna thought it to what they give me. So
Speaker 1: what do you think Hulio is gonna do? Obviously he's
Speaker 1: no longer in Atlanta. It was a big situation. He
Speaker 1: no longer wanted to be there. He felt well, he
Speaker 1: felt like they didn't want him there. They felt he
Speaker 1: didn't want to be there. What do you expect from
Speaker 1: Julio and Tennessee this year? It's hard to say, because
Speaker 1: you sit down and watch the game, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And he I don't think he's getting them
Speaker 1: target like he was in Atlanta, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And then you got your other receiver, JOANJ. Brown. He hurt.
Speaker 1: He hurt right now too. Man. So I was hoping
Speaker 1: I thought that Julio was gonna get off this year,
Speaker 1: especially with him having there hearing them, they haven't. They
Speaker 1: They gotta drop that stop to stop that run, you
Speaker 1: gotta gotta start, You gotta stack the box with him
Speaker 1: and no, man, I mean like everybody's kind of disappointed
Speaker 1: and surprised about that situation over there. They just everybody
Speaker 1: thought both of them receivers gonna get off this year.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Chicago. The situation that they have going
Speaker 1: on now, they've been, they haven't been. They've gone to
Speaker 1: the playoffs a couple of times, but they're not what
Speaker 1: we expect the Bearers to be. They got a situation
Speaker 1: where they signed Andy Dalton in free agency, they trade
Speaker 1: up the draft justin Fields, and they have a former
Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP on the roster and Nick Foles. How
Speaker 1: do you think they're handling this situation correctly? Who do
Speaker 1: you believe should be playing? Say it one more time?
Speaker 1: Sorry about that, Say it one more time. Look at
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears situation, at the quarterback situation. You signed
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton in free agency in the offseason, you trade
Speaker 1: up in the draft to get Justin Fields. You also
Speaker 1: have a former Super Bowl MVP and Nick Foles on
Speaker 1: your roster. Now you're looking at the offensive line, it
Speaker 1: is a very good uh you got I like Robinson.
Speaker 1: I like Robinson, He's okay. You got tight end, got
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham, who's at the tail end of his career.
Speaker 1: You got gomet Is, who's a very good tight end.
Speaker 1: Of the three quarterbacks, who do you believe should be
Speaker 1: starting right now? Justin Fields, Andy Dalton or Nick Foles.
Speaker 1: It's tough, you know what I mean with that situation, man,
Speaker 1: because for one, you put too many quarterbacks on one pot,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You gotta pick one and
Speaker 1: then have the other one to be really really true
Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks right when you bring it, you bring a
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks that have potentially showed that they're they're starting
Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks in and then you move up and draft
Speaker 1: your first draft pick, a high draft pick in the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Right It's like putting a cat in the in the
Speaker 1: room with six pit boys, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be pretty and that you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So that situation that it caused a controversy, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean from the start, right, and so like
Speaker 1: now you have the fans that have their favorites, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So you go to a preseason
Speaker 1: and you get Nick Fole coming up and he thow
Speaker 1: a path to the running back and they want to
Speaker 1: see a pad down the fielding the running back catch
Speaker 1: ball and they stated bolling him, right, So how you
Speaker 1: think he feels, you know what I mean? And then
Speaker 1: you got daw and then you got the fans, which
Speaker 1: is a seemed like they love feel is better. Right. Now,
Speaker 1: as a coach, you don't really know what to do,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. To day you play, you
Speaker 1: throw feels enough against a defense that everybody said we're
Speaker 1: gonna rush rush him all game, right, and now he
Speaker 1: have a terrible game where he give a nine and
Speaker 1: a half sex and you know, at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you know what I mean. Now, now you
Speaker 1: start like as a head coach, I don't want no
Speaker 1: quarterback controversy, Like let that be like training count first
Speaker 1: we can segue, but after that, I need my lot quarterback.
Speaker 1: I don't want nobody the babo for quarterback, right, Spice Adam?
Speaker 1: You play Spice Adams was a teammate of yours and
Speaker 1: we know the internet sensation. Now. Was he like that
Speaker 1: in the locker room like he is now? Yeah? He double?
Speaker 1: What you see with double A, it's high here. Double
Speaker 1: A don't put on the show for nobody. That's just
Speaker 1: how he is. He always been like that. Whatever you
Speaker 1: see when he putting on these videos and stuff, that's
Speaker 1: just the person he. It is like commute. Certain comedians
Speaker 1: they got to active be comedians, and then in certain
Speaker 1: certain that just talent. That's where they really is. So
Speaker 1: they know they're not putting on the show. That's how
Speaker 1: double it was. He was like that in the locker room,
Speaker 1: on the field at Price, every single time you met
Speaker 1: seeing double he was making people laugh. Why do you
Speaker 1: wet a number twenty three? I wore twenty three because
Speaker 1: that wasn't them I was given in high school. I
Speaker 1: was given well my freshman year. I played Barston football
Speaker 1: my freshman year, and so I couldn't get a single digit,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because all the scene the
Speaker 1: first crazy thing about it was, I really got them seven, okay.
Speaker 1: But the old head that was a he was a
Speaker 1: he was a scene and he wore number seven on JV.
Speaker 1: So he moved up to the scene and he looked
Speaker 1: at me here like yo yo rook. I know cod
Speaker 1: Gate at seven, but I need that seven, and I
Speaker 1: like damn, but he go brou I had to go
Speaker 1: back up to the candy man. Y'all got them back
Speaker 1: there for me. You got twenty three year here and
Speaker 1: so the day I say, listen, but the number don't
Speaker 1: make you. You make the number, and I just stuck
Speaker 1: with it. Well, you know in Chicago, if you got
Speaker 1: the number twenty three, you know what that you know
Speaker 1: what that is. So in other word, you're trying to say,
Speaker 1: you to join the returners. I gotta be the joiner returns.
Speaker 1: It's good look at Chicago when you went twenty three. Man,
Speaker 1: when when you look around the day and you look
Speaker 1: at some of the returners to day and even though
Speaker 1: they don't return the ball, Quardarell still still and still
Speaker 1: doing that because I think he was in the league
Speaker 1: when you were when you were in the league, and
Speaker 1: h he was at Minnesota when you was at Chicago.
Speaker 1: When you look at some of the guys as far
Speaker 1: as explosiveness, you look at Lamar Jackson, you look at
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, you look at Tyreek or do you wish
Speaker 1: you could have played in an era like this as
Speaker 1: a wide receiver with with so much space and all
Speaker 1: the rule changes with your can't hitting the defensive receiver
Speaker 1: and the five yard illegal contact and they can't attack
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Listen, man, right now, all the old heads
Speaker 1: that played now in the football league back in the
Speaker 1: day already mad about the pay grade. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, we get cleanups. What the boys big bang
Speaker 1: they're making big wet mother. Man. Then you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. With the offense, it just seem so much easier.
Speaker 1: Not it's so much easy, not like we not run
Speaker 1: these old fashioned plays, not man. Everything like the way
Speaker 1: the offensive cord only offensive Cortney, that young minded young guys. Man,
Speaker 1: and they're coming up with great schemes to get guys open. Man.
Speaker 1: If I if you are the punt returner and kick returner,
Speaker 1: I mean you see CD Lamb. Now he returned some point.
Speaker 1: But most guys, once the guy get established on the
Speaker 1: offensive side or the defensive side, they move away from
Speaker 1: the returning game. I remember you probably you probably won't
Speaker 1: remember this guy, but Roy Green. He was a tremendous
Speaker 1: turn and a wide receiver, but once he got really
Speaker 1: good at ride receiver, he moved away. Uh. Tyreek is
Speaker 1: a prime example, right, even d Jack. Right, once they
Speaker 1: got really good on our offense, they're like, nah, y'all
Speaker 1: stay away from this, do you yeah? Do you do you?
Speaker 1: Do you think that's a good Do you do you
Speaker 1: like that? Or do you just like? Man, they still
Speaker 1: got value back there. But I think it's just from
Speaker 1: me from my perspective, is that it seems like the
Speaker 1: teams are like, you're too valuable on offense for us
Speaker 1: to risk it. There's a greater chance you're gonna get
Speaker 1: deemed on punt return or kickoff return that you are
Speaker 1: on offense. Yeah, I think it does play a fact
Speaker 1: because I can remember, like my fourth year in the league,
Speaker 1: where I was two years in the system, so I
Speaker 1: started getting comfortable with the play calling, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. We were two years in it with the
Speaker 1: same offensive coordination, So I started getting comfortable with the
Speaker 1: play calling where I can go out there and listen
Speaker 1: to half of the play at break the haller, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, You know what I gotta do right,
Speaker 1: and trying to do both of them, and being a
Speaker 1: full time receiver, like it's impossible, Okay, Like it's impossible.
Speaker 1: Like I was at the point where I was when
Speaker 1: I was a full time wires, I was praying that
Speaker 1: they didn't kick it to me because I didn't have
Speaker 1: those juice in the legs. Man. So I don't care
Speaker 1: how hard you're training all season, man, when you out
Speaker 1: there with them flying bullets, man, you you running, man.
Speaker 1: And so that second in the middle of that second, third,
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, Man, when you gonna rent no hard on man,
Speaker 1: and you don't win on the go rout twice and nine,
Speaker 1: you turn around defense three and nine this point returning
Speaker 1: called up. You ain't got no juice in them legs, man,
Speaker 1: So I don't it's impossible to do it. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at this. You've had something that I don't know
Speaker 1: if anybody else has ever had. You had a perfect
Speaker 1: speed rating a one hundred and two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: making you the fastest player in the game. But I
Speaker 1: don't know if there have been a lot of ninety nine.
Speaker 1: And that seems to be the standard nine. You get
Speaker 1: the ninety nine. Travis else is the nine and nine
Speaker 1: and Patrick mahomes of the ninety nine. Uh Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 1: is the ninety nine. Aaron Donald's or nine and nine.
Speaker 1: We've had players ninety nine. I don't know if we've
Speaker 1: ever had a player with a hundred. So when you
Speaker 1: think about, like Man, everybody loved Man. You guys love Madden,
Speaker 1: But how many of y'all had that hundred? I had
Speaker 1: that hunting? Yeah? That that that That's a lot of
Speaker 1: kids grow up now. That's what they know me from
Speaker 1: you on the guy on Man, a hunt of speed,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's where my popularity to
Speaker 1: come from. That Man game with me being the first
Speaker 1: guy to have a hundred. That was, to be honest,
Speaker 1: that was a bigger compliment and a lot of respects
Speaker 1: from Matt And you know what I mean for feeling
Speaker 1: like that I should should get up the hundred. If
Speaker 1: I took Devin Hester outside right now, said Remy and faltered,
Speaker 1: how fast you think you can run it? Listen, man,
Speaker 1: last time I tried to sprint, I pulled the hip.
Speaker 1: I'm scared of sprint, right, I pulled the hip. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm scared, right, I'm scared of kicking in the field
Speaker 1: gear so so so uh so, how do you so,
Speaker 1: how do you stay in shape? You do when you're
Speaker 1: riding the bike, You're do an elliptical. You do a
Speaker 1: little jogging, little here and there. So my my my
Speaker 1: middle son plays football, okay, and so yeah, I coach.
Speaker 1: I coached the team and me going out there the
Speaker 1: present and running gases with them boys and running through plays.
Speaker 1: And see, I got eight year old. So it's like
Speaker 1: a teacher was struggling with a bunch of kid that
Speaker 1: just don't want to want to listen. So me running around,
Speaker 1: jumping up and down, yelling and all that, and then
Speaker 1: I get about three days a week in the weight room. Shoot,
Speaker 1: my condition come from chasing them little kids and sprinting
Speaker 1: with them during the daytime. Right. The Bears. The Bears
Speaker 1: have the most Hall of famers, and your first year
Speaker 1: of eligibility, you're talking about some of the all time greats.
Speaker 1: You're talking about the Buckers. Is you're talking about coach
Speaker 1: Allen's the owner Bears, uh GAYL. Sayers, Richard Dent, I mean,
Speaker 1: Walter Payton, singletary. The list goes on and on. What
Speaker 1: would it mean for Devin Hester to all of a
Speaker 1: sudden and probably you're gonna have your name up in
Speaker 1: the stadium. I mean, that's what they do with the
Speaker 1: great the Chicago Bears. The name go up in the stadium.
Speaker 1: What would that mean to a kid from from Palm Beach, Florida,
Speaker 1: to all of a sudden, he's a Pro Football Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer. And when you go back to the Soldier
Speaker 1: feel like, look like they're gonna be moving. But when
Speaker 1: they go, you go back to get that ring and
Speaker 1: one day you look up in the stadium and like, wow,
Speaker 1: my kids looking up there, like, man, that's my dad,
Speaker 1: my dad's names up there with that Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: logo next to it. See that, And that's that's the thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like everybody want to be
Speaker 1: we we remembered, you know what I mean. And the
Speaker 1: only way to be remembered, man, it's to cheese him accolades, man,
Speaker 1: make that Hall of Fame, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And to have your name up on that stadium. Because
Speaker 1: once that name goes up, though, man, and let that
Speaker 1: building burned out your name. Make going nowhere correct. So
Speaker 1: it's just like like it's just like in the degree,
Speaker 1: once you get that degree, came nobody to take that
Speaker 1: from you, exactly right. So once once you get that
Speaker 1: hall of fame, man, Man, that's for for your That
Speaker 1: ain't just for you, man, that's for represent the name
Speaker 1: on the back of the jersey. Man, for your mom
Speaker 1: to say, my mom is like my number one fan.
Speaker 1: Like she bragged on me to the point where it
Speaker 1: embarrassed me when I get around you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And it embarrass me sometimes, like, man, come on, launch
Speaker 1: a lot. Man, don't tell him that. But it's just
Speaker 1: she's just a proud mom. And for me to make
Speaker 1: that hall of fame Man, that's that's my whole family man,
Speaker 1: And what we went through, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like from from what we talked about the college and
Speaker 1: all that. Man, you know what I mean. Like for me, Well, listen,
Speaker 1: that's it for me. That's all I want. Right now.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a choice. You got one choice.
Speaker 1: Would you rather play dB and pick up Tom Brady
Speaker 1: or catch a bomb or go ride from Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: kick off a pick you a big Brady Brady take
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna hit the d are you gotta hit
Speaker 1: the time on it on the head, on my eyes
Speaker 1: up front? The forty on him? Are you? Are you
Speaker 1: surprised that Tom Brady has been able to play this
Speaker 1: long and being able to play this well. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, we look Normally guys don't play this long.
Speaker 1: But he not only played long, he played great. It's dude,
Speaker 1: twenty two years in. I had to let that thing
Speaker 1: go at fourteen. I don't know how long you played there,
Speaker 1: but I had to let that thing go. At fourteen.
Speaker 1: Them licks started hurting. And that's when I tell people.
Speaker 1: I say, Man, as you get older, those licks hurt you.
Speaker 1: I'm rung, I'm lowering my shoulder, I'm running over. I'm
Speaker 1: looking for guys to run into. Man, you start getting
Speaker 1: a year twelve thirteen, fourteen, you like, turn that blink on,
Speaker 1: blink on plink and hit that out of miles on him. Man.
Speaker 1: And when it when you get hitting and the injury
Speaker 1: last long with you, you don't recover as quick as
Speaker 1: you once did. Uh it do? Man? So for Tom, Man,
Speaker 1: there's so much technology going on right now. You don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on over there. Man, with Tom Man
Speaker 1: for him to still be playing with heat, playing heat,
Speaker 1: he got it, be spending a couple of million dollars
Speaker 1: gonna hit about. Yeah, he's sleeping. He probably sleeping in
Speaker 1: the hyperback chamber. He might have his whole his whole
Speaker 1: house is a hyperback chamber. He eating the best. He
Speaker 1: got the best, yeff. He got the best staff, medical staff,
Speaker 1: physio staff, pete. He got the best of everything, everything. Man.
Speaker 1: So you don't never see him hurt. That's a great
Speaker 1: thing about it. I can't remember that time Tom Brady
Speaker 1: was hurt. Right. Well, you know, they don't allow you
Speaker 1: to take the quarterback like they was dead. Now, they
Speaker 1: usually let you blast the quarterback, but you can't last
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Now they throw them. They're gonna throw the
Speaker 1: laundry on you. You hit the quarterback too hard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he don't. Took a couple of hitting and he
Speaker 1: get right back up. Now it's still quarterbacks out there. Shoot,
Speaker 1: they getting hurt. I don't see Tom getting her. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know it's a Tom Brady rule, but I don't
Speaker 1: see hit a couple of times and he get right
Speaker 1: back up. Ye see, But Tom ain't trying to prove
Speaker 1: see a lot of times guys get in trouble when
Speaker 1: they trying to prove how tough they are. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna run over this linebacker. I'm gonna run over this guy.
Speaker 1: Tom like, nah, I'm good, just touch me. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna come and get you the next play exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: Tom played baseball for he know how the slide. Damn it. Man,
Speaker 1: congratulations on the Hall of Fame. Appreciate you getting me
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes of your time today, Brou. Good
Speaker 1: luck with the family. Hope palls well on your end, Brou.
Speaker 1: All right, appreciate it. Man, night talking to you again. Man,
Speaker 1: all right, Brou. I have a go with all my life,
Speaker 1: the grinding all my life, sacri fice, hustle back price,
Speaker 1: one slice got the bron dice to swadd all my life.
Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life, all my life, the
Speaker 1: grounding all my life, sacri fice, hustle back price, one
Speaker 1: slice got the bron dice to swaddy all my life.
Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life,