WEBVTT - Devin Hester 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:05.080 All my life, the grinding all my life, sack fights, 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:09.600 hustle back price. One slice got the dice to swadd 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:12.600 all my life. I've been grinding all my life, all 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:17.080 my life, the running all my life, sacrifice, hustle back price, 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:21.079 one slice got the dice to swaddy all my life. 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:25.520 I've been grinding in all my life. Hello, welcome to 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:27.600 another edition of Club Sha Shay. I am your whole. 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.120 Shannon Sharp, also the proprid of Club Sha Shade, the 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:32.600 guy that's stopping by for conversation on the drink today, 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:35.400 is a three time Special Teams Player of the Year. 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:38.520 He's three time First Team All Pro, made four Pro Bowls. 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:41.520 He's also a member of the two thousands and two 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.240 thousand and ten All Decade Team. They're not very many 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:46.960 of those guys. He's also a member of the hundredth 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:50.199 Anniversary Teams, which means he's one of the hundred greatest 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:53.880 players in NFL history, of the twenty thousand plus players 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:56.680 that's ever played. A hundred Greatest Bears of All Time. 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:01.720 University of Miami Sports Hall of Famer Herric Ain't Hester anytime. 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:05.679 The Windy City Flyer Devin Hester, Dad, what's up? Brouh. 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.600 What's up, baby, man, I'm hanging in there. How about yourself? Man, 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:12.240 I'm great man. All I mean when you hear me 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.280 reading out our special teams in the All Pro, in 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.600 the All Decades two times, they're not very many of 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:21.040 those guys, A hundredth anniversary team. When you hear all 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:27.080 these accolades, what do you think, man? It's just to 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:30.320 be honest. A great career by a football player, you know, 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:32.800 from high school all the way up to college and 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:34.559 then in the pros. You know what I mean? Those 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:38.720 are type of stats and statistics that a football player 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:42.759 dream and love accomplished once they finished their career. Right. 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:47.560 Congratulations on being nominated in your first year of eligibility 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.560 for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. What would it 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:55.720 mean for Devin Hester? A returner basically a special teams player, 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:59.080 because they're not very many if I'm not mistaken, Martin Anderson, Ray, 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.400 Guy yonst the Rule, George Blander who started apart he 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.480 was a kicker and a quarterback, but you were primary 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:08.200 or returner. What would it mean for Devin Hester to 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:10.320 get into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in his 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:15.120 first year of eligibility? Ye? It would be honest. Man, 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:16.880 it would mean a lot to me. Man, this is 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:21.160 son that we're just not talking about an award that 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:25.680 anybody gets. Right. When you talk about the Hall of Fame, Man, 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.000 this is the greatest among the greatest. This is like 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:30.160 when you go back to the ancient day you're talking 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.760 about Achilles, Troy, the Greek gods, like those names are 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.600 a month all the warriors that that was fighting, you know. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.160 So in this situation when it comes to football, man, 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:44.480 the Hall of Fame is every dream come true for 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:46.440 a kid. Man, and for me to make it, Man, 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.280 it really not only for me to make it, but 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.280 to open up the doors because if I do make it, 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.120 and when I do make it, I would be the 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:57.640 first one as a kickoff a point returning that that 0:02:57.720 --> 0:02:59.960 makes the Hall of Fame for me. That's very special. 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.160 To open all doors for the younger ones coming up, 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.239 but not only for myself, but to put a chair 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.359 on top of my career. Man, you mentioned it. If 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:12.520 you play football, the Pro Football Hall of Famer, the 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:16.160 football heaven, it's football mecca. That's where all the grades go. 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:21.440 That's their finals, that's their final accolade, that's their final accomplishment. 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:23.880 That's the as you mentioned the cherry on the top. 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.400 There is no greater than that. And so you know, 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.840 they mentioned, you know, pro Bowl player, and they mentioned 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:32.000 super Bowl, but when they say Devin Hester, Pro Football 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.800 Hall of Famer, there is no They're only they're less 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.480 than four hundred gold jackets out there. They're about twenty 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:39.960 five thousand Super Bowl rings out there. They're only about 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:45.120 four hundred gold jackets. Right. That's that's that's a lot, man, 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.080 You know what I mean. That's like being in the field. 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.200 You know what I mean in the hospital. Yeah, it's 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.360 only two or three they running at their hospital. Man, 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.720 you get that thought about how your name man, it 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:59.120 speaks for us. Up. When I mentioned returners, they've been 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.240 some all time grade returns. We can go back to 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.760 Gail Sarahs who played with the Bears. We go Billy White, Shoe, Johnson, 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:10.160 Rick up Church, Dan Sanders, Joshua Cribs, Dante Haul, Brian Mitchell, Mayle, Gray, 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:19.279 Eric Metcal Where does Devid has to rank? Man? To 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:23.479 be honest, man, we to be honest. Man, I'm talking 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.240 to you, I ain't talking to me. If I'm talking 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:32.800 to you, well then get the shop. Oh you know that? 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:35.400 So you are you? Are you saying it is Devid 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:39.920 has to telling me he to go most definitely, but 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:41.440 not what I wanted to hear. Are they what I 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:46.960 wanted to hear? Oh? Yeah, I am and I believe. 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.039 So you know when you look at the stats, right, 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:51.680 you look at the tech. Yes, the things that I 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:55.760 do has never been done before, never in the National 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:59.839 League Football. And the position that I played, I took. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.600 I took it at another level. You know what I mean. 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:06.279 And to be honest, it's when you when it's tied 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.240 to pick a returner, I do believe I should be 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.200 the first one when it's time put up kick returning. 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.119 It doesn't matter if you return to the ball. Devin 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:19.560 have the name should be called first, most definitely. I 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.000 truly believe that. And I know that everybody that knows 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.960 the game of football. I love football. No. When they 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.360 mentioned the best kickoff and part returning, if you're a 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:33.840 real true football player. When I look at your record, 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:35.840 you're the first only player to return to open a 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.680 kickoff in the Super Bowl for a touchdown. You broke 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.400 the most touchdown all time return touchdowns. You broke the 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:45.880 records in Atlanta, most part return touchdowns fourteen, most returns 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:49.320 for TV's in the season six. If I'm not mistaken, 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.919 that was your rookie year. Did you expect to have 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.760 if did you expect to have that kind of impact 0:05:55.320 --> 0:06:00.400 in your rookie season? Nah? Most definitely not what I mean, 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:04.120 but I was I was told coming out of college, 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.719 right but from a sub of coaches. Right then, listen, man, 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.040 if you go to the NFL right now, you're just 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.280 gonna be a kick off part return Okay, I say, 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.800 you know what I'm gonna go, but I'm gonna be 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:16.800 the best one to ever do it. And let me 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:18.600 pick a bank off of what you just said. You 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.680 said that I brought the record for the most kick 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.400 off punt turn in a single season my rookie year, 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:27.560 I did, but my second year I brought that record. Wow. 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.760 So oh yeah. When when you think back, you're going 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.320 to the coaches are telling you, yeah, you can come out, 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:36.800 but you're only gonna be a returner. Now, remind you, 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:39.840 in college you were mainly a dB. You played more 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:44.159 defense than you played offense. What made you so confident 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.560 that you could go to the NFL and have that 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:49.000 level of success? Considering that you were kind of like 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.440 a jacket. You played offense, you played defense, you return 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.520 to football. You weren't really a specialist on the offense 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:58.600 or the defensive side. That's that's sun and that was 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:02.080 left up to the coaches. Man. And like, I don't 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:03.599 really like to talk about that typic because a lot 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:08.440 of people don't know it. But my sophomore year when well, 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:12.520 really I started playing dB and I beat out the 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.920 starting corner right late later and season like five more 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:17.840 games left and end up leading team and picks. So 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.480 made a parade Hall American and all that. My summer 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.080 year swad my junior came in and I was ready 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.120 one of the top corners coming in the league in 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:29.440 the season, so you know, you started getting all that accolade, 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.760 the photo shoots in the magazine, started coming to campus 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:36.960 doing all this stuff. My decordinate didn't like it. He 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:38.920 was like, you know what I mean, you blowed up 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.440 too quick, You on the scene too fast. We're gonna 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:47.160 sit you down. So I got I got knocked down 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:52.000 to thirteen man screen ball man, and I approach them 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.280 about the situation, like, listen, I'm not that type of 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.240 player that feed off all that all that accolade and 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.160 all American and playball, all American knowledge, that's not what 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:01.960 I want. I want to come in here and contribute 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.240 as being one of starting corners on this team and 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:08.280 do my best right. And so I approached him about 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.120 the situation and it didn't go the way that he 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.160 wanted because he was like, I don't care what you're saying. 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:14.800 Ship were Finn, sit you down. There's too much spotlight 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:18.240 on you. And I said that bullshit, you know what 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.880 I mean? And I got up and walked out here 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:22.760 like that's all here like, and he caught me and 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:24.920 I didn't come back, and so he stuck his head 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:26.040 out of the door. He say, as long as you 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.280 played here, you would never put another down for me, 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.160 as long you play here, And I said, the best 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.360 my whole junior at corner. So I just did a 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.439 kick off and point turn and I said, you know what, 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:36.599 I'm gonna be the best kick on punt turn that is. 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:40.839 So that where my cornerback career just pretty much ended. Man, 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.360 So that was one of the reasons you also left earlier. 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:44.640 You're like, man, I got to get up out of here. 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.040 I might do something bad to somebody because they missed. 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:51.319 They tried to mess up my money. Apparently that's what 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.319 really happened. Man. So I was like, I really just 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:56.959 got drafted off my souhomore year what I did in 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.559 my songmore year when I did have the opportunity to play, right, 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:02.920 when you look at the way the game is shifting now, 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:07.240 the rules that they've implemented, no more three man were 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.559 just no more two man were just no more holding hands. 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:11.439 You remember when you came in, you have three of those. 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.839 You have three D tackles or two D tackles of 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.120 the offense, a live but holding halfs and then here 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.760 we come, we got five appliers looking to blow somebody up. 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.800 They are no longer allowing you to do that, obviously 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.719 for concussions, for the health of the players. Now do 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:28.319 you believe your records and the return game would be broken? 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:34.520 I think from them just moving the kickoff up for it, 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:36.640 you know what I mean, and allowing the kickers to 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.199 kick it deepen ends on when when I was in 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.600 the league, you know, after my third or fourth year, 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.480 when they had the negotiation about changing the rules. Right, 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:48.720 my special team coach, which is the best I would 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:50.800 say the best best team coach in the NFL, which 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:53.240 is Day Told who was at Kansas City Chiefs right now. 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:55.959 But he can't brought it to my atensions, like, hey, 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:57.880 we're getting ready to go to a meet. They're having 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:01.120 a meet and about moving the kickoff. Uh right, And 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.000 so it was like be ready for it. And so 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.319 when he came back, he said, you know what, when 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:11.840 we had the meeting, out of thirty two teams, everybody 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.920 agreed on moving it up. Beside that's up me and 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:17.920 everybody said, well, we don't have no Devin Huster, so 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:21.559 we want to move it up, right. Is that that's 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.440 why that's why they moved it up, because you owe 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:26.840 every team voted to move it up if you also 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.719 remember Devin. Now, they don't allow the guys. When I 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.120 first came to the league playing special teams, the guys 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:35.160 would get ten fifteen yards deep, get a running start. 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.640 So when the kicker hit the ball, everybody's little day spread. 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:41.240 So by the daring the wall set up and they 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.760 looked around. The guy would bet his hip pocket running 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.439 past it. And you walked up with one of those 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:48.800 guys that said, your coach would tell you, I don't 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.520 care how deep they kick it? Bring it out? Come on, 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:56.640 take it out, take it out? What did that mean? 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.040 Because you see now basically if the ball two yards 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.120 deep in the ends on, you see everybody's like, okay, 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:04.000 we're good, we were straight. We were breaking about you 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.120 was like, hey, they already knew devid hes to coming 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.240 out with it. Say, hey, they can't kick it. They 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.120 kicked it out of the end zone. You're coming out 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:16.400 with it? Hey, you know how the kid our team 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:20.079 they give points. What's printing the end zone? Yes? Yes, 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.080 everything we played they were getting point because listen, they 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.040 had this printing their ends because they knew I was 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:30.240 coming out. So what would you say, are what's the 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.679 best attribute to have if you are a returner? Is 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.920 its speed? Is it vision? Is it quickness? And the losingness? 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.840 What's the number one thing you need? I would say 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:45.599 it's hard and there down to one, okay, because you 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.160 gotta happen. You gotta happen. Okay, give me your most 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.480 important Okay, give me give me the Okay, if there's 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.800 four or five of them, give me the list of 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:56.040 importance going one to five. So what's the number one 0:11:56.080 --> 0:12:02.760 things to me? Vision? Okay? Vision? One, two speed, okay, 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.120 three the heart of a lion. Okay, you know what 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.240 I mean. A lot of people got speed, a lot 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.280 of people got vision. But when they're trying to hit 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:14.240 that whole and you got a hundred, and you look 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.160 and then you you're looking up in the ball hangful. 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.480 You got four five seconds and your clock, you know 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.840 what I mean, You got four five seconds of ball 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.520 and that ball hanging up six seconds and you looking 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.840 up a lot of people throw their hand up. They 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:35.079 gonna thrown up you. Uh. And then you go back 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:36.959 in the field room and you put your hand on 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.640 you got the closest cotten on front you right, like 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.840 what you're doing? Man, Listen, that ball were hanging too long? Man? 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:50.760 So what once of your returns? What what was the return? 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:52.840 Because I remember you played the game against the Broncos, 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.480 and the Broncos were winning the entire game, they were dominating, 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:57.600 and then all of a sudden they made a mistake 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.400 and they kicked two of them till you and you 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.679 brought them both back. If you can have, if you 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.559 have a game, what's your favorite game in which you 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:09.520 brought a pot back or kick returning back? I would 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.600 say probably my rookie year man against Arizona. Okay, that's 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.400 when then had the incident. He said, they thought who 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.720 he said it was you? You made you made him say, yeah, 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.680 that was that was you to call that. Oh yeah 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:28.240 it was in the least sh but yeah, man, I 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:29.880 would say that game because we went in that we 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.400 went into the half time down three to like twenty four. 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.439 Man was beating out behind, you know what I mean. 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:38.400 And then that's the time where that's that that two 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.160 thousand and six season where we kind of depending on 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:42.680 the defense and a special team pretty much carried us 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.360 all the way to the Super Bowl. So offense was 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.080 struggling and the Boys came out and had a great 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.920 game plan and put twenty four points up quick on us. 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.760 So we went in a half man and you know, 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.280 as the Vestian guys kind of brought all the guys 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:58.240 up and said, man, listen, we continue to fight. Man. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.240 We got a special team. Yea, we continue the fight. 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.320 We're gonna We're gonna pull it out. Man. The defense 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.520 started clicking, getting turn over left and right, and then 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.560 shoot two miny two three minut left in the game, 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:10.480 were down four or five points. It's put trying call. 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:12.760 So I'm looking like it my tie to put on 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:14.959 the shower. Now, ye, s mass your question. So let's 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:16.679 just say, for the sake of argument, you're down, As 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:20.560 you mentioned, you're down less than a touchdown, and you're like, man, 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.840 we need a spark. Do you say to yourself subconsciously, 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.360 I need to make it happen, or you just let 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.600 it happen. You're like, I just do my thing, just 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.760 let it happen organically. Are you telling yourself I need 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:35.240 to make a play here? No, I'm telling myself. I 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:37.640 can't wait for something like this to happen. I can't 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.600 wait for us to be down four or five points 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.840 and we need a big point. I don't want to 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:44.480 be blowing the team. I want to be in a 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.200 moment where I want to be that guy to say, well, listen, 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.120 we need to touch that right now we're down. There's 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.040 two many left to go in the game. Who we're 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.640 gonna depend on right shooting? Oh? So we got this 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.560 here right. That's the type of player I wanted to 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:58.800 be my whole life. Man. I always look at saying 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:00.680 to listen, man, it's on the two three players that 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.560 I know as a kid that de terms an outcoming 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.600 the game. I want to make one of those plays 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:09.600 right when you go back and your returner, and you 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:11.880 played with our pads. You had no thigh pads, you 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:16.560 played with no knee pads. Why as a returner, I 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.320 was a dog. I didn't care. I didn't care about 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:23.280 getting hid. I just felt like I was Superman. To 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.640 be honest, man, I didn't. I didn't fear nobody. And 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:27.920 I was a type player where I would mean up 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:31.280 the sideline and look at the coach like I dare 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:34.360 you to kick it to me? And what about the kick. 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.080 I'm on the sideline staring at him like I wish 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:40.760 y'all would kicking me. That's how much comfortable I played with, man. 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.360 And so your teammates know, like it's one thing player 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.440 you know, play played with a Hall of Fame quarterback 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.840 John Elway. I just knew. I felt very comfortable on 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:52.280 a silk given Sunday that a we're gonna be okay 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:57.680 when you they have you as a returner. They like, man, 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.520 we're good. If we can't get these guys backed up, 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.360 knowing that he can't angle it, he just gotta get 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:09.160 it out. We got Devin Helster back there night night 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.200 like night like playing Mike Tyson and the Prime Night 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:17.200 Night Coach saying it coach, you don't you don't realize. 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:22.400 When teams did kicking me, the ratio was every three 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:25.120 kicks I touched, one on was going to the house, right. 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.520 I was that hot my first two years at the 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:30.640 three kicks one of was guaranteed to go to the 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:33.600 he That was the ratio, right. Just imagine if I 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:35.880 got these teams to kick me all eleven years of 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:40.080 me playing, how how my stats would be? Crazy? Man? 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.600 You gotta really I had like seven eight returns called back. 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.960 That don't even counting my stats? Right. Well, I was 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:47.480 well lest I was ready for them to kick on 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.680 part return. So if I said you could only choose 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.920 one kick off a punt returns, which one would you choose? 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.760 I like punk returns. Well you like him, I can be. 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.040 I could beat myself right, So kick off return we 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:07.359 all know sideline right, sideline left, a middle return right, shoot, 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:09.399 well return, I could put a little I could put 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.399 a little crand bad juice, a little crystal sauce on that. 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:13.639 You know what I mean? To do what I do 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:16.680 and then go back to the return right. So that 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:20.520 was if let's just say, for the sake of artament 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.040 DEVI they call we call a right return, and a 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:24.760 lot of times I don't know how you guys did it, 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.520 but we would set up to return towards our sideline 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:29.600 because if you set it up the death sideline, they're 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:31.960 gonna be calling it out. So we normally set the 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.639 return up to our sideline so it was gonna be quiet. 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.359 But the return up we never had a returner like 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.600 you did you automatically like, okay, we gotta right return. 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:43.240 I gotta make sure I get to the right, or 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.879 you say, you know what, I'm wound trick him. I'm 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:47.920 gonna do a little dancing over here, pretend like I'm 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.000 gonna go left. I'm gonna start left a little ways, 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.800 knowing that you're gonna get back to the right. Oh yeah. 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:57.359 See the when when me and coach they build a 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:00.600 relationship where he really had confidence at me and was 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.200 ever for me to force my opinion. I say, listen, 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.760 whenever you want to touchdown, get double the gunners. I 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.120 don't give a damn about the fat boys up front. Right, 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:10.720 double the gunn and let me get started. I'm gonna 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:12.359 do what do what I do? And let all the 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:14.240 returns go to the field. You let all the turns 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:15.960 go to the field. I'm gonna find me a hole, 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:19.360 right because I'm a great one. Right. Double the gunners, 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:21.720 I don't care about the fat boy lead upon it 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.560 and a long snapper. Do not block them too. That's 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.400 a waste of the guy. Not block the lone snapper 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.440 or the putner. Now we got actually got a block. 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.160 So now that you now that you mentioned that, which 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:37.200 is worse getting tackled by the long snapper or the 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:44.879 partner or getting hold? Which one is worse? Yes? Getting 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:55.760 halt listen if you'll get help. You know, man, listen, 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:01.720 that's that sticks. That's a person like a fat person. 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:04.960 You can't get Okay, who is right? So you see? 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:08.000 Look you can say the punter had the anglog me. 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:09.760 He pushed me out of the down out of bounds. 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:11.920 He really didn't like the tackle. But what about the 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.520 long what about the long snacker. It's a long snapper, 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:18.600 same thing. He's just he's just gonna try to wall 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.959 and push out about at nobody tightening you You mean 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:23.479 they just gonna play the angle, You know what I mean? 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:25.760 They hope somebody here ever come before I run past him? 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.640 So war was your thought? You get a kicker, you slate. 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:31.840 Let's just say you're five yards away from the kicker. 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:35.080 What's going through your mind? Are you like, okay, i'most 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:38.040 almost stuttering. I'm gonna take playing to the field and 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:40.639 come back to the sideline. What's your thought process? How 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:44.040 are you sitting him up? I'm gonna eat this ground up, 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.560 eating the cushion up, because when I get up on him, 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.600 so fat, he's just gonna sit right there right, He's 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:53.760 gonna sit now like a lot of a lot of 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:55.840 speed guy. They try to take a angle too early. No, 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:59.160 I'm eating up his cushion, right, I'm trying to get word. 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:02.280 You keep that's straight stem you checking right at him. 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:05.680 I'm gonna go right at him, straight at him. So 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:07.399 I get about two or three yards from m then 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:09.720 him stick one way in the model up because he 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:12.040 gonna sit. He might sit down. I don't have a 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:13.439 couple of point of the car. I get up on him. 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:16.240 They sit right down on the butt. Cain't go nowhere. 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.720 I mean, if you think about it, teams not kicking. 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:22.320 You mentioned teams that wouldn't kick you the football. We 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:24.480 had the Jordan rules, they have the book came out. 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:28.560 They would walk Barry Bonds back. You know, Tom Brady 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:30.399 and Peyton Maddie. We gotta keep those guys on the 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.480 sideline and make sure they don't have the ball. Think 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.520 about it. Teams said, we are not kicking the ball 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:39.240